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What's a cool wizard/math guy I can use to replace the image of this ugly black girl
>>97941726Spock
>>97941726Bakshi's Gandalf.
When to buy silver scroll foils?
>>97941726No need to change the image when she regularly looks like this during play
>>97941715>What are you hyped to see in the upcoming bestselling set, Marvel: Superheroes?The only Marvel characters I like are X-men, who won't be in it due to getting their own set, and Daredevil, who will likely be a bulk rare or garbage uncommon.So nothing really
>>97941762collector boosters literally always go up in price over time, may as well buy the good cards now since they too will inevitably rise
>>97941726>>97941774They really want to push this bitch don't they?
>>97941774I really hate that a good simic rules text was given to zimone instead of like a dragon or something. It's fucking pudgy boy Kinnan all over again good card ugly interesting character.
Killed someone with this for X=15 this weekend and the game before it drew me 32 cards. 10/10, met all my expectations. I love stupid X spells.
/ourguys/ BL, Ron, and USea
>>97941817>immediately kill someone with a single card as long as you spend 9 mana>only counterplay is if you also have blueCan we ban island already?
>>97941800Wotc are desperate to make "faces" for the franchise without understanding why characters become popular in the first place (or understanding but unwilling to 'debase' themselves to do so) so they keep shoving the same lame corporate boardroom created safe mascots in front of us hoping we'll suddenly start like the Jacetice league or generic liberal capeshitter #744936. The funny thing is they already have some characters who do have fandoms in spite of Wizards general incompetence at making pleasing people. Thalia and Avacyn have tons of fan art, and even the angels in general get a lot of community attention despite being almost wholly unsupported by the designers. Chandra and Nissa actually have fans, especially the pairing, but it's two pretty young white women so they can't emphasize that. Even older characters like Urza and Gerrard still have their fans showing they stood the test of time, even though they're just collecting dust at this point.They're lucky Magic was the first big TCG because if Magic had come out at any time post-2001 it would've died in the first couple of years.
How is this not banned? it's 2! Rhystic Studies in one and even colorless!The entire game will revolve around it once it hits the board.
>>97941835>costs 6>doesn't generate card drawI know you're a rhystic: the study defender baiting but you should at least try.
>>97941726Divayth Fyr
How is this not banned? it's 5! Mox Sapphire in one and even colorless!The entire game will revolve around it once it hits the board.
>>97941841>7 mana>costs 5 mana to generate the card draw, cannot both add mana and card draw in the same turnAgain, get better bait.
>>97941839>Costs 6Negligible in Commander>doesn't generate card drawNeither does Rhystic
>>97941833I mean the problem is that even if WotC understands the popularity of a character like Thalia, how do you transition that into a face of the IP? She basically has no reason to be running off into other planes and showing up every set. Even Zimone only got one actual appearance outside Strixhaven which everyone correctly pointed out as unnaturally forced.Magic set design has, since the beginning, been focused on jumping between what is essentially entirely different settings a la Doctor Who or Original Series Star Trek. The mending was an attempt to resolve this by depowering planeswalkers so the story could follow them around (which would later lead to the Jacestice League), but because WotC is shit at writing they still ended up powerscaling ridiculously high compared to basically everyone that wasn't another planeswalker, so there were basically never any stakes wherever they went. Even with the spark rupture and omenpaths opening, most characters have no real reason to be leaving their homes, and those that do would likely be doing it for reasons WotC does NOT want to center a story around (people fleeing shithole planes to safer ones).The problem is that Magic's method of product design is basically incompatible with a consistent brand image because they haven't laid groundwork for players to accept a small core cast of characters that show up everywhere. Honestly I'm not even sure if it would be possible at this point because the standard of "let's throw out everything from this set and maybe only think about it again 5 years later" has become so entrenched in player expectations. For everyone that would love Thalia becoming a mainstay you'd likely have 10 people screaming "GET THIS TEMU DAENERYS OUT OF HERE!" Which even if you personally like her, for obvious reasons you probably don't want to keep doubling down on it in the wake of failures like the Jacestice League assuming your goal is actually financial success rather than just self-pandering.
>>97941846Yeah but Mox Sapphire doesn't draw cards by itself either :^)I'm a Commander player so I don't look at mana cost or timing window when evaluating cards. Picrel is LITERALLY Ancestral Recall.
>>97941832no banning island but I was talking about to my family just now how we are excited they are releasing that 2 mana model blue card - draw 2 put back 1 and shuffle option, or counter target instant or socery spell or search your library for an island and put it in play tapped
>>97941883You are correct in every way that's why UW sucks and the only way forward is UB; it might take a decade to fix UW assuming wotc is even competent to do so
@97941715>defaced OP with his gay furry porn againFake thread, will not use
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>97941883The first step is scrapping the whole planes hopping thing altogether. Multiverse shit is gay and always leads to slop. Have 10 settings max and just rotate through them, that's more than enough.
>>97941941But you already posted in it and therefore used it.
>>97941981>Scrap the multiverse idea>Focus on 10 universesWhich one is it?
>>97941833A dedicated Chandra and Nissa Gruul Commander is money left on the table. This pairing feels embarrassing with the Commander format being as pushed as it is, that Chandra Nissa decks are Rule 0 Tier 1 slop with Omnath in the Command Zone. The big Chandra and Nissa card is a mono-green ramp spell with no flavor text and a vague Korra ending. Can't do Gideon and Liliana either.
>>97941726How about replacing her with a hot black girl witch instead?
>>97941779>and Daredevil, who will likely be a bulk rare or garbage uncommon.You literally never know anymore.The Owl librarian, a random badgemole, and Gran-Gran ended up as some of the best Avatar cards and Fucking Choco from FFIX ended up as one of the most played commanders from FF. There's a non zero chance the best Marvel card ends up being a 2 drop version of Jubilee or Elektra that does something completely fucked.
>>97942135Almost forgot the most famous example of Slicer being a huge powerhouse of a card while Optimus ended up in the bargain bin. Magic players probably care more about Slicer than real transformers fags do at this point.
>>97941883tl;dr
>>97941833Reminds me of discussing cool old characters like Glissa, Kiki-Jiki, Lord Konda (actually, properly handled White = Evil), Urza, Gerrard, Karn, Dralnu, and Mishra with swordfag. Magic got very lucky making characters people liked before either killing them off, forgetting them, or turning them to shit.
>>97941883This is why the Weatherlight Saga was so fucking good. Various planes, reasons to go to them, great stakes, recognizable villains, and the ultimate clash at the end involving breaking open the MOON to dump holy light on a dark god like liquid nitrogen on a coughing baby.
>>97941833>Chandra and Nissa actually have fans, especially the pairing,Coomers are not an audience. I would prefer more pretty white women, too, but "the pairing" is literally just yurishit, there's 0 chemistry between them.
>>97942140Player no like Jacestice LeagueGame need good version of Jacestice League to grow UW image
>>97942147>Ultimate clash at the endDo you not remember how badly the wheels started falling off Weatherlight towards the end? Even before the executive mandate came down to wrap up the story it was already falling apart. The only thing stopping the shit with Guff from being one of the most pants-on-head idiot writing moments in Magic history is how many other low points the writing had.
>>97942163I both like Guff and think this was fun, personally. Then again, my favorite planeswalker was Bo Levar, so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt.
There's a lot of various effects like this. Would Golbez end up dealing damage equal to the artifacts I control when bringing the creature back into my hand?
>>97942182Why were Espers so wack ass crazy about turning themselves into robots?
>>97942201Turning into a robot is based.
>>97942217*vandalblasts you*not so based now huh
FUCK ARTIFACTS
>>97942201From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
>>97942182>Golbez mentionedI ARRIVEAbilities like that are called "Characteristic Defining Abilities" and are active in all zones. In my Golbez deck i use Master of Etherium, Broodstar, and my wincon is often Apocalypse Demon in my graveyard. Same reason Coram likes milling Lord of Extinction and Sutured Ghoul likes big dumb bodies like that as well. CDAs are a lot of fun, and I also recommend Shambling Suit and Filigree Attendant for extra corpses on the pile.
>>97942201>robotsOne of the trivial but interesting things from EOE's story is that the characters struggle to even conceptualize what Tezzeret is. They have robots, they have cyborgs. Those things are commonplace. Tezzeret doesn't neatly fit in either category as far as they are understood in the Edge.
I don't care about Marvel but Thor looks like a cool commander, I might have to make an alt for him
>>97942359Speaking of, will this set also get an Arena version like Spiderman did?
>>97942449Spoderman is a little different because the characters are shared between different rights holders so they probably won't have to
>>97942449Yes. No marvel cards will ever come to mtg arena.
>>97942449Maybe
>>97942449I don't know
>>97942449It's a possibility
>>97942449Can you repeat the question?
>>97942449I don't know.
cottoned eyed joe’s willWRINSTANTAs you cast this spell, become the battlefield. (You must lie down and all players must put their cards on the battlefield on you, cards not on you aren’t on the battlefield. You neither win nor lose, nor draw)
>>97941774Why would it look like the picture you have when I have this out? Or even Spike Cannibal (someone else posted it last thread)
Why did wotc swap to the shitty bracket system anyway? 1-10 was way better, and commander salt does a massively better job of judging a deck's power.
>>97942688So true. I love making 67 jokes before every game then watching Rhystic: the Studying stomp Timmy McRetard's dino pile.
>>97942688>1-10Garbage system. Brackets suck for a thousand reasons but "My deck's a 7" wasn't much better.
Scientists have determined that this is the coolest dragon ever printed.
How do I know if my deck is appropriate for bracket 2?It has no game changers, no infinites, plenty of pet cards, and the game plan is just ramp and swing with fatties. I seriously doubt it can pull a win before turn 8.That said, I genuinely don't know if it would be a good match for a pod of precons. I haven't bought a precon in over a decade.
>>97942688Because Brackets with defined intentions and purpose immediately are superior to arbitrary numerical rankings?What is a 7 on commander salt? It's better than a 6 and not as good as an 8, but what does that mean? For different decks it sometimes doesn't even come close to meaning the same thing; an unhinged manabase on a just above average deck? Oh yeah that's a 7. Goes infinite on a sneeze with basics? Oh yeah, that's a 7. Guy who didn't actually put his deck in but is 'pretty sure he knows better than some losers on the internet', he says his is a 7 too.What's Bracket 3? We actually have a comprehensive definition and parameters; no more than 3 limited "Game Changers", no MLD, no chaining extra turns, no two-card infinites, locks or deterministic game-ending sequences achievable before Turn 6. Games are expected to go at least until Turn 6 before players are eliminated or the game ends, players are expected to have cards to interact with each other's boardstates, players may have resources necessary to win the game in a single turn, but generally rely on establishing a boardstate to fuel said plays.We can of course argue then until we're blue in the face over whether or not a given deck or card belongs in the bracket, but there's little to no ambiguity on what that bracket is meant to be. That is immediately more practical than commander salt.
>>97941832>Can’t do basic mathAverage blue-hating cuckmander player.
>>97942760This is definitely up there, I was considering getting one for Ureni to use it as another mana sink like Earthquake and Magmaquake.
Making one old border commander of every monocolor. Here is red. Decide my fate. Any bracket, any budget.
>>97942904Slap a magebane armor on tahngarth and make him fight everyhting.
>>97942015It's not a multiverse if they're all wholly separate settings that never cross over and follow their own rules and conventions.
New player so forgive the potentially retarded question, but what does a good starting hand look like? Should I be aiming for a certain amount of mana or certain cards? Should I just be trying to get stuff in my hand I can actually play or do I want to keep crucial things for a gameplan and just hope I can last until when I can cast it?I feel like my gameplans are relatively simple for my decks (make tokens, kill enemy creatures to get counters, mill cards so I can cast from graveyard etc.) and my decks have like multiple possible answers and ways to get the ball rolling but I just never can GET the ball to roll or I'm not drawing land cards, meanwhile my opponents always seem to get the things they need when they need it. I could just chalk it up to being bad luck but it happens so consistently I figure I must be doing something wrong.
>>97942947maybe the term you're looking for is "anthology"final fantasy and dragon quest are the most successful examples of an "anthology series." no game is a continuation of another game (except for like X and X-2) and they don't connect aside from writing and aesthetic themes and a few running gags.
>>97943008Fuck off swordfag
>>97943008Depends on your deck and bracket. I recommend having a couple of cards to play and mana to play them, as you get more experience you'll start to feel what is a good hand instead of analyzing it too deeply.Welcome to edh, enjoy your stay and try to have fun.
>>97942137I built Optimus Stax and he is fun>Bolster every turn makes my random stax creatures into big ass attackers>He dies and comes back as a truckIs fun
>guy calls his Mina and Denn deck "high bracket 3, low bracket 4">we're all on 3s>game 1 he loses to another player's combo, blames me for ruining his game because I removed his board even though he never got to untap with it>game 2 he plays Dictate of Karametra, takes a 10 minute turn, loses his board immediately to another player's board wipe>untap with 14 mana instead of 7 because of his stupid group hug card>he begs me to give him "one more turn" with his surviving Ulamog>"no">kill everyone at once>loudly complains that I "always pop off">fixates on my Seasoned Dungeoneer which I played both games as "bullshit">game 3>opens Sol Ring, turn 2 Lotus Cobra, Gruul Toph>turn 3 Mina and Denn into 7 mana>toxic deluge to slow him down>"Dude I'm getting focused every game for no reason what the fuck">rebuilds his board>plays a Rishkar's Expertise>"If this gets countered I fucking scoop">someone Narset's Reversals it>he gets up and leaves, says he never gets to have any fun and everyone focuses him for no reason>joins another pod some of my friends are in>go over and see it>no one interacted with him, so he has 20 mana and half his deck on the board turn 4>he's taken a 20 minute turn>turn 5 he kills everyone>"Thanks guys, that was my first actually fun game of the night."I seldom interact with people who have that much of a selfish turboshitter mentality. What a baffling night, holy shit.
>>97943008Depends entirely on your deck. If you're running something like Krenko, you want a couple lands and goblins to get the party started. If you're running something that's fuckhuge like Eldrazi, you want a bunch of lands (3+), artifacts and cost reducers.
>>97943026some people just want to win and don't care about anything elsea lot of those people are also terrible at the game
>>97942142I like Jared. "I'm jacked and I have a magical sword" is charmingly straightforward.
>>97942142They did glissa so unbelievably dirty.
>>97943093surprised that have not made him a faggot yet.
think im ready to join the war on blood moon, on the side of blood moon
>>97943142Wouldn't even be mad.>Jared "any hole is a goal" Carthalion
>>97943008More card draw is usually the answer to not getting the ball rolling.Also don't cut lands, rampant Growth is just a land drop you pay 2 for if you don't have any to put into play that turnGood luck Kanpainiki.
>>97943026Mean while my of is the exact opposite. I’m the only player in my pod that plays removal/ counters. Other two player just durdle every game I waste all my resources to try and stop the turbo player. Turbo player proceeds to pub stop and win again for the 4th straight week in a row. It’s all so tiresome. Ready just scrap all my decks and play legacy or cEDH. At least with cEDH we all go into the pod knowing we’re on the same power levels.
>>97943179Why? Did the local lands player call you a bitchboy or something?
>>97943253just rumminating why should +3c slop pile deserve to have all it's colors by turn 2-3 to cast their powercreeper9001 that does is both the engine and payoff with unboltable body? Why should they be exempt from reserving space for situational cards that are the solution to a floodgate card but dead otherwise just to cram more engines and payoffs? In same vein why should artifacts and enchantments at all have this special place where people don't feel like running at least some solutions if they happen to not be creatures? Why should they get away with playing a bracket 2 with 3 gamechangers as bracket 3? People are so soft that if they played against contamination+tenacious dead they'd cry and call opponent a pubstomper, let alone lethal vapors because "opportunity cost"
>>97943179Blood Moon was the compromise
How often do you mulligan past the free one? My playgroup is still mostly in the mindset of mulliganing for a playable hand rather than going for the best opener.
What's the lore on Gideon and Liliana?Did she finally get over her Jacetism?Did Gideon no way fag her?
>>97943485My only hop for the reality fracture or whatever is Gideon coming back.
>>97941715>Thor has double Prowessinteresting direction to take the character mechanically.
>>97943503Boros has been branching out the last decade. I mean, Thor is STILL just another "I attack you" Boros legend, but the tree is growing slowly.
>>97943485>Liliana asks the Gatewatch for help killing the last demons who hold her contract>Jace tells her to fuck off for being a whore>this makes her sad>she hangs out with them on Amonkhet because one of the demons is there>but skedaddles as soon as Bolas shows up>this pisses off the Gatewatch>they all meet up back on Dominaria and Liliana asks for help again>they tell her to fuck off>except Gideon (who got fucked up by Bolas and Hazoret)>she helps to heal him>he helps her with the last demon and they find the Blackblade together>gets bamboozled by Bolas now holding her contract somehow>now she's in command of the Eternals>controlling them during War of the Spark>Gideon goes after Bolas>Bolas tells her to kill him with Oketra>she makes Oketra whiff the shot because lurv>break her contract with Bolas to turn the Eternals against him>starts to die>Gideon sacrifices himself and dies in her place>Liliana is now very sad
>>97943537High effort post, thank you
>>97943537So she got away with everything. Just like Teferi. Is Karn the only Walker to actually try and fix everything he fucked up? Even if he was not aware he was fucking shit up in the first place?
>>97943099They really did. Slobad somehow got it even worse.>they held hands and walked out of the core of Mirrodin after vanquishing the big bad>the end>oh and Slobad was immediately trampled to death by panicked goblins
All this Gideon talk has me wanting to build him. Just going to throw all his namesake cards in there. Any suggestions for directions other than that?
>>97943303You are correct and ignore any shitters that try to tell you otherwise.Magic is a game in which you either go all in on a strategy and get blown the fuck out if your opponent has an answer to your strategy OR you sacrifice some of your speed or consistency for resiliency. This could mean running more redundant pieces instead of ramp OR it could mean running interaction for hate pieces and/or counterspells/protection.Ramp is the defacto best strategy because the only attempts to answer it are considered taboo by the community. Nobody bats an eye when you blow up a Sol Ring and a Grim Monolith because they were accelerating a player to 10+ mana by turn 5 but if you try that shit on someone who cast Three Visits into Explosive Vegetation it's suddenly some asshole move.By restricting MLD and never printing efficient land destruction (which is still not fast enough) JotC is effectively saying that ramp is a strategy with no counterplay which is bullshit.Blood Moon is more about punishing greedy 3+ color goodstuff decks but it falls under the same purview. Running multiple colors means access to stronger cards and more varied effects and that SHOULD come with a cost to balance it out. That cost ought to be consistency but with the myriad of dual lands it realistically isn't. The new cost SHOULD be a weakness to nonbasic hate but faggots think that Ruination is too rude because it punishes the person with the expensive mana base (fuck off nobody fetches basics with their onslaught duals) and the paypigs can't deal with their $700 manabase being punished because they didn't have the common sense to run a dozen basics.Magic needs more powerful hate cards not fewer. Teach retards to either scoop when the RIP hits the field or have an answer to it in their deck.
>>97943571>So she got away with everything.Kind of. But the character changed from the ordeals and now Liliana is at least making some effort to honor Gideon's memory in her own way.
>>97943523Yeah, I just expected Thor to be more of a Gruul guy.I get that it's thematic for lightning man to storm off but typically Thor is more hulk-esque in that he just hit you.
>>97943581My favrioet line is>MLD doesn't actully hurt the lands playerYes the fuck it does. If someone has 6 lands out by turn 3, that means they have dumped a significate portion of the hand and turns into just getting those lands out. They are OUT OF GAS, if you start turn 5 by dropping an Armageddon then you are all back to square one, but the ramp/lands player is hit harder for being gassed. The ramp player is ramping to cast big 5+ CMC spells and has spent his turns trying to get to that point. Most lands players don't even run more lands than average.
>>97943581Agreed, and the reason I constantly attempt to rule zero MLD into all brackets.
>>97943587It's an uncommon shitter filler "draft" card. There will likely be 3+ versions of every "Avenger". Fuck I hate UBslop so goddamn much.
>>97943537LoreChad, why did Lili lose her spark?
Get with the times. Boros is out, Lorehold is in.
>>97943599I injected her womb with my semen for 76 hours straight.
>>97943599https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Desparkening
>>97943599I don't think Wizards ever explained why the Desparkening happened in-universe.
>>97943571Killing the demon lords and defeating Bolas is a net positive overall even if she caused a lot of death and destruction on Ravnica and even though Bolas is back anyway. And she's trying to make up for her actions and live up to Gideon's faith in her.
>>97943478now that's fully on me but i will almost never go to 5 even if i probably should, too often keeping "passable" rather than "good"
>>97943651She killed billion anon. Ravinica was not the only plane Bolos fucked over while she was in charge.
>>97943659Yes it is; the invasion of Ravnica happened pretty much immediately after Bolas yanked her leash. And she specifically went out of her way to avoid civilian casualties during WotS
>Pod wants to do the "ten mull">Ok, I guess. If everyone is doin it then I'll do it.>"Debate" about mulligan rules comes up. >I say: I dislike the ten mull because it is a crutch for bad deckbuilders>Everyone hates me now. Welp.
>>97943669They hated you because you spoke the truth.
>>97943669I still don't understand the math behind the 10 mull.Wouldn't a fresh 7 be better than seeing 10 once?
>>97943692Anon, pods that do the ten do this.>Draws ten>Don't like it>Put ten on bottom or shuffle, depends on the angle they are shooting.>Draws Ten>Don't like it>Put ten on bottom or shuffle, depends on the angle they are shooting.>Draws ten>I GUESS this is keepable, uggghhh, I'll put these three on the bottom, oh man they were so good too.
>>97943717Wow that's terrible.I can forgive not shuffling before the draw sometimes because it's a time saver and I don't play with people who run turbo combo decks who'd abuse it, but why would you just give people crazy hands for free like this?
Just use boomer partial Paris
>>97943659
>>97943478>My playgroup is still mostly in the mindset of mulliganing for a playable hand rather than going for the best opener.>The /mtg/ vocaroo continues to be more and more relevant Grim
>>97943717>Pods of tenNo, I choose death.
>Kequia turns to the others, whispering fast and urgent: “My grandfather’s told me stories about her. She was a great necromancer from our home plane. She destroyed her family, consigned her ancestral homeland to defilement and decay, and made bargains with demons to have power and eternal youth. She’s…not a very nice person.”>“Did he also tell you how I fought alongside the Gatewatch on more than one occasion, or that I only ever raised armies of the dead against people who deserved it?” asks Liliana mildly. Kequia squeaks, turning to see the necromancer standing in the kitchen doorway, still looking more than half amused by the situation. “Not that anyone ever feels like they deserve an army of the dead, I suppose, but it’s subjective in a lot of ways.”
>>97943758The multiverse needs an interpol-like organisation to arrest criminals like liliana.
>>97941715Maria has some attractive art, she doesnt seem very good though unfortunately
>>97943782the Ravnican guild leaders hired Kaya to hunt her down
>>97943782Maybe some kind of... watch. Jace could lead it.
UB BROS WE KEEP WINNING
>>97943823You don't hate him enough.
>>97943823Translation>Pigs eat the slop, so we make slop.This is why you gatekeep hobbies.
Predict white Liliana.
>>97943850Liliana, but white.
>>97943823>people only play mtg because they saw their favorite slop on the labelIt's fucking over, isn't it
>>97943890>>97943843>>97943834You guys are ultra retarded. Think about it. In Universe Jumpstart is a product that doesn't even sell well among the already enfranchised outside of extremely scant good cards that only show up in Commander (obviously), so if you're trying to get a new player to start, putting it in UB AND making it a starter product makes the most sense. What are they gonna do, sell us on Sai, Master Thopterist again? Psemilla? Fumulous? At least be mad about shit that makes sense.
>>97943503I'm kind of glad for it. I'd have thought it be equipment focused but this is a good direction.
>>97943929The mythic will be Equipment focused and it will Tutor Mjölnir like pic related.
>>97943733She was the coolest gal.
>>97943929I'm so glad we're getting aggressive Boros without the equipment as much anymore. Equipment has always been such a terrible archetype and most people aren't even smart enough to run a couple of good equipment in otherwise strong aggro decks. It's always "all or nothing" with deckbuilding weirdos.
ban tutors (including land)ban sol ringban rhystic
>>97943963The problem is that same with vehicles: Your strategy relies on two things rather than one. If you have creatures in hand that benefit from equipment, you need equipment. You need creatures for the equipment to be useful. If you are missing one, then you are sol. So you need a perfect balance of good creatures and good equipment's, but equipping has a cost generally, so unless you commander cheats that, now you need ramp to actually equip things. This is why R/W kellen is the best equipment commander.
>>97944014Agreed, as much as I think equipment cards are cool, they are often only worth it as cool bits in other decks like Swords of X and Y make for great includes in aggressive decks but the moment you're running 30% of your deck as equipment you start needing to strike whole new balances.
wonder if they'll bonus sheet monsoon ral as Strange the chud//Strange sorceror supreme
>>97943746'pods that do the ten-mull', what the wiki calls "gabriel special surprise" and I've seen named after either austin or dallas, readingcomprehension-kun
>>97943746This is a really cool idea for a card. WotC could never.
I maintain that Hearthstone mulligan (1x Partial Paris with no penalty, no mulligans after first) is the best system because it gives you a playable hand basically 100% of the time without letting retards run 20 lands and smooth it out by seeing over 28 cards every game.
>>97944091Until you get a Sol Ring opener and sculpt your hand into a god-tier one.
>>97944106Well now we have an entirely different pointless argument to have...
>>97943982Based
I actually got the dragon i wanted, what about you?
>>97944402got my first, second and third choices, even if only 2nd grade is in the alternate art, but then again prismari looks goofy as fuck so maybe that's a blessing in disguise that i didn't
>>97944091Some people have never thrown away a 2 land hand in a 37 land deck only to find themselves picking up no lands on the next one and it shows.If someone at your table is dominating by milling down to 5, it's not the mulligan that's a problem, he is playing bullshit and if you're not also playing bullshit you should tell him to quit it and play an appropriate deck for the table.
>unnerve>tasigur's cruelty>arterial flow>lets play a game>then I guess vicious rumors and send in the pest>bad deal is bad>bite of the black rose and capital punishment are right out>doomsday confluence>torment of hailfire doesn't countthat anon from a while ago is right, this is a pretty dire selection
>>97943834>>97943843You have a containment thread to cry in
>>97944091You realize that Hearthstone stacks their opening hands by algorithm right?
>>97944437Is this part of the le forced 50 maymay?
>>97942611I'm a foil bitch all the way, although sometimes they don't have a foil version I want. USEA foils are almost all 1:1, BL can be iffy but lately he's been remaking bad ones.
>>97943008>Good starting hand Rough estimate. 2-4 mana sources with 3 being the average and leaning higher if your commander costs 4+.2-3 early spells.You should be casting about 3 spells by turn 4, with one of those likely being a mana rock/dork and another possibly being your commander.But anything more specific than that is contingent on how you constructed your deck and what your mana curve looks like. Consider something like Moxfield to enter your cards into that will give you stats like average CMC, mana curve, likelihood of playing your first hand, and even virtually play testing your deck.
/edhg/ I'm having trouble getting my stew to cookhttps://archidekt.com/decks/9618639/theyre_more_legendary_guidelines_xavier_sal_infested_captainThe gameplan is just wacky creature making and then duplicating legendaries made unlegendary by island of Dr. Moreau'd them, which means its strongly reliant on cards that make nonlegendary tokens. That's something I have to work on and know what to do, but the other problem is the fucker is just refusing to curve out. I can adjust mana values and it needs more lands, but it needs to be DOING SOMETHING as I'm putting down drops, so therein lies my struggle.On top of that the focus is on Mutate, so I want more mutates if I can get them, but the only way to cook with this is switching to Little Atraxa in the command zone for white mutate creatures; but that loses my populate trigger; I'd have to go hunting for selesnya staples which aren't hard to get, but it sure sucks having to look for them instead of having them every game. Thoughts on that would be appreciated as well.
Just fed my deck to Chatgpt and it basically said it's shit and told me to add bunch of Game changers
>>97944485Whenever I asked it about mine it was overly positive. Wtf is your deck?
>>97944485>>97944495Why would you want AI to look at your deck and pull from the dredges of edhrec
>>97942201Zero green mana
>>97944498It's good for getting some pointers you might otherwise not have thought of. (If you tell it not to go tryhard.)It's also nice to compare decklists quickly / point out interactions between specific cards. However it does sometimes shit the bed and does the typical AI shit where it apologizes when mistakes are pointed out and then goes on to make the same mistake again.
>>97944495It said it in positive and flowery language but reading between the lines it basically said it's bad.Anyway it's Patron of the Kitsune lifegain trigger spam deckhttps://moxfield.com/decks/RlLRpkRM8E69vhNC5mkIOw
>>97944448The easy trick is to grab it from bootleg mage since he filters the shit out. Usea is the best "direct" seller though by far in terms of accuracy. BLM for example curated the gold chocobos to only sell the convincing ones.
>>97943643I know the characters have hypothesized that the multiverse desires to be observed. And in that sense the omenpaths are suggested to be more efficient than planeswalkers.
>>979426881-10 sucked so they felt the need to do something and didn't predict how shitty brackets would be before shipping it. Simple. 6-10 was a shitty system but it at least didn't stifle freedom as much.
>>97942688I'm annoyed I can't run fucking Ruination or Back to Basics without being put in the sweat combo bracket (where the cards do nothing because the game is already over by the time they resolve). Genuinely insane that brackets soft banned and entire subclass of cards from existence.>build 5c goodstuff slop pile with perfect mana base in bracket 2/3>yes, this player should never get punished>play mono red and therefore exist at a huge disadvantage>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BLOOD MOON ME
>>97942688>This is a 7! Teehee!While the brackets aren't perfect, having guide lines that make each bracket is a step in the right direction instead of completely nebulous vibes
>>97944549Not familiar with the archetype (I don't think I've even ever played a mono white), but commandersalt seems to agree with the soulless machine on this.
>>97943717yeah all my decks are going to have meltdown and collector ouphe if this is what im facing.
>>97944604>mfw I do exactly that with Slivers in b3>mfw the deck murders everyone on turn 6 at the very latest
>>97942688The bracket system is ultimately just a guidebook for the uninitiated to recognize obnoxious play behaviors.The people who take the most offense to it are the ones who feel the most exposed by it, and their reaction to the system's introduction is consistently an open declaration that they intend to find new ways to be giant faggots.
>>97944680>open declaration that they intend to find new ways to be giant faggots.This. The constant statement that "the brackets don't make sense" or "the brackets don't work" followed by the not over the top example to skirt the guidelines of whatever bracket is actually proof that the do in fact make sense and work, as you need to understand something to figure out how to break it at that level.
>fogs are extremely good in non-combo heavy pods>no one uses them
Does including a copy of this card in my deck make it bracket 4?
>>97944701I run riot control though. I'd have to run green to run more of them and eeeeeeeh.
>>97944473I recommend imagining your deck in the mold of the traditional archetypes (aggro, control, combo) and choosing early drops that advance that specific gameplan while still accounting for the particulars of the commander format.For example if you think you're more control, early drops that can answer your opponents while advancing you. If you're combo, early drops that get you closer to acquiring key pieces. etc
>>97944618It's basically bunch of creatures with "Whenever you gain life, do X" and then bunch of stuff that give low amount of life but trigger a lot with Patron itself triggering a shit ton because every attacking creature is a separate trigger.
>>97944709There's always a way!
>>97944701Good lord do I love this card.
>>97944437You're confusing it with Arena.
>>97944716That's horridly nonspecific; but it does give me an idea from playtesting.Mutate is an expensive mechanic card and mana wise, I need to cut back on the fancy and have more efficient early game targets, especially for ramp like parcelbeast, or mutates to make wright and coiling oracle more useful. I can always build the stack more later, but I need good, cheap creatures to start stacks on.I guess thanks are in order.
>>97944426The situation you're describing is literally impossible with 1x partial paris because you can throw out any of your 5 nonland cards and keep the lands. That's exactly why it almost never produces an unplayable hand unless your deck is built extremely poorly, which there's no fixing for.
>>97944604it's almost like brackets are horrid
>>97944794Right, my bad, I blanked out on how that one works goes. I don't quite like how much it stomps down variance (it's not QUITE like drawing 14 and keeping the 7 you like, but its not as far from it as it would seem) but I guess it wouldn't piss me off if everyone did it correctly.
>>97944720>pridemate variants, essence channeler, voice of the blessed, archangel of thuneyou're fine
>>97944701I have made my group terrified of Dawn Charm. They play as if I always have one in my hand, probably because it feels particularly bad to commit themselves to a full attack to win the game only to end up whiffing and then getting hit by a counterattack across an open field.
>>97944933Giga based. Love Dawn Charm. I try to fit a fog into almost every deck, the psychological element becomes incredible
>>97944604>Do this before brackets>Exact same resultWhy do people LARP claiming this is a new thing?
How gay is it to use RL cards? Stuff like metalworker would definitely help one of my decks, but it seems stupid broken.
>>97945019If you own it. Not gay.If you are proxying it, you're pretty gay.
>>97944604And there's no seperation between mass land DENIAL and mass land DESTRUCTION. Someone could drop a blood moon turn 7 and all that does is slightly slow down the table because everyone has signets and dorks and treasure. Meanwhile someone drops Armageddon and if you Don't Just Have It you basically lost. Gavin and co are genuinely stupid about brackets, most likely because they are also angle shooters who don't want their own decks to be locked out of certain brackets. We know Rhystic has never been banned or relegated to bracket 4 hell because Gavin loves it.
>>97945019Depends how gay you and your decks are. A lot of RL cards are perfectly fine. They're not a measure of power.
do the exiled cards from theater of horrors also get cost reduction from things that are on my board?
What kind of music does he listen to?
>>97945055Short answer, yes. As long as you're casting it.
>>97945058https://youtu.be/V2nt0zwyZc0
>>97945058Strikes me as a Mike Oldfield type of guy
>>97944968Because 4chan doesn't like brackets. I want updoots even though they don't exist.
>>97944933>probably because it feels particularly bad to commit themselves to a full attack to win the game only to end up whiffing and then getting hit by a counterattack across an open field.Now what if we doubled it.
>>97945080cool, then I will put it into my rakdos deck
>>97941715>TQ: What are you hyped to see in the upcoming bestselling set, Marvel: Superheroes?Taskmaster is pretty cool, and I like copy effects, which he'll likely have.
>>97945058Math rock?
anyone else having a feeling that more and more people are just like>yeah just use this suite of 3-5 non legendary clones and pop off!for a lot of the recently hyped commanders? even the ones that either want to run creature light or already would have trouble sticking for a whole turn let alone getting clones. Feels like powercreep is slowly reaching the point where it actually is better to just copy your commander and break the scaling
>>97945217I don't think it's a huge issue but I will say that nonlegendary copies are the gayest shit on the planet and should not exist. Awful and inelegant way to bypass the legend rule.
>>97945058https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejztepv9AyY
>>97945058Oh shit he got rid of the dreadlocks
>>97941715>TQWhatever infinity stone they release I guess. Other than that I have little interest in the set. I like tribal decks and I’m unlikely to get angels, hydras, or sea monsters so I will probably skip this. Not a fan of human spam in everything.
>>97941715How would you go about building super fast aggro & aggressively interactive control? i want my next two decks to be aggro and control. (NO UB, and underrated commanders preferably.)
>>97944604I feel your pain. any form of powerful non removal based land interaction is all but soft banned and im sick of it.
Krenkobros, what happened..
>>97945302Mono run doesn't have as much good stuff cancer to abuse as Esper.And furry faggots.
>>97945302Y'shtola my beloved
>>97945301I’m still learning, but I love making decks. Is picking related frowned upon? What about something like Confounding Conundrum?
>>97945313Yes, EVERYTHING that interacts with more than 1 land at a time should be assumed to be automatically slapped in bracket 4 combo jail. its fucking retarded, and wotc are massive faggots (as normal) for capitulating to 5 color ur dragon pile shitters throwing a tantrum because they paid unreasonable amounts of money to have dual lands and fetch lands AND HOW DARE YOU turn them into mountains.
>>97945313Other anon is coping hard but he is kinda right. For some reason people will complain about Price of Glory but you drop City of Solitude (literally exact same thing but stronger) and they go "aww thanks for shutting down the blue player bestie".
>>97945302Are there any fun ways to build yshtola? Is it all just cedh slop?
>>97945313NO. That card is based. Fucks blue mages.
>>97945338>rock spam>clones spam>infect pings>pillowfort/enchantments>"Storm" combo>controlall run curiosity effects or similar "core" cards
>>97945359What about the gigachad Seedborn Muse + Vedalken Orrery green mages?
>>97945320>because they paid unreasonable amounts of money to have dual lands and fetch lands AND HOW DARE YOU turn them into mountainsHonestly, just put duals and fetches into higher brackets so that they only exist where they'd get hit by land denial.I genuinely cannot think of anything funnier than that
Remember when this was allowed.
>>97945437Don't be dramatic
>>97945055A good example of the interaction you're talking about is Savvy Trader.Savvy Trader specifies cards from exile and graveyards specifically because without that addendum, it would just be a cost reduction on all cast spells.That is, you can interpret the default from the exception. You can safely assume something like Hazoret's Monument will apply to your exiled red creature spells just as well to the one from your hand.
>>97944485>Using AI scrapping and training from Trannyfield primers.Yikes
>>97945437Make lewd card art yourself for yourself.
>>97945058MTG's official band
>actually managed to buy an Hourglass of the LostI genuinely don't get how this card is so cheap, because it's nearly impossible to obtain, even Card Kingdom doesn't have a single copy.It's like stores will refuse to price it above a bulk rare even though every copy is quickly snapped up, meanwhile they charge 70NZD for a Biollante even though there's plenty of them in the country sitting as dead stock.Anyway, what's people's thoughts on this unobtanium card?I'm gonna try running it in Tayam, because it's a commander that does lots of milling and wants nearly everything to be at 2-3 CMC, which works out great for a "reanimate everything at a specific CMC value" card.
>>97945600bout 400 of them on TCG player>NZThere's your problem. Not an issue if you live in a country that isn't an island with a population smaller than southern California.
>>97945600I didn't even know it was hard to find. But I also bought it about 2 years ago for my Teysa aristocrats deck.The card has high synergy with that one because I've got a lot of permanents in the 4 cost range, so I'm able to consistently reanimate about 3 cards with it by turn 7.
>>97945619Oh, it says 5 listings in NZ. Seems that TCGPlayer pretends that listings that don't ship to your country don't exist.Yeah, if they're abundant on TCGPlayer, it explains why NZ stores underprice them. NZ stores base their prices on TCGPlayer averages, but kiwis seemingly have different tastes in cards to Americans, putting a higher value on interesting off-meta cards and putting a lower value on rare fancy treatments. Which, since stores use American prices, means the former sells out and the latter is dead stock until it gets a 50% discount.The odd thing about basing off of TCGPlayer prices is that TCGPlayer isn't even a competitor, because the few stores there willing to ship to NZ price like complete assholes.This is what TCGPlayer listings often look like in NZ (this is for a $7.70 card, prices are iin USD)
>>97945058nigga is straight Coheed inspiredhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zm1_JSPOQ&list=RDT3zm1_JSPOQSeriously his design is just like Vaxis's father in Coheed and Cambia lore and EoE has the same aesthetic
>>97945217A lot of commanders have unique effects with no redundancy. If their effects aren't exactly powerful or gamebreaker I don't care if people stuff the deck with Irma or Quantum Alignment.
Really hoping the Marvel cards suck and are hated so I can buy them all for cheap. Kinda like what happened with the SpiderMan set.
>>97945705Well Iron Man from the leaks is already very strong for Timmys, and Thor's prowess+prowess definitely riles Timmys up as well. Bruce Banner/Hulk is already getting popular brews. The problem with Spider Man was that it was just a giant spider tribal set full of weak shit that didn't appeal to pubstomp troons or Timmybrains. Marvel has already enough cards that have built interest.
>card is mechanically interesting>only available in a retarded scene frameGnshhagghkkapphribbit.
>>97945718The issue is it wasn't fantasy. The end.
>>97945721ThisIt's why TMNT bombed
>>97945705Saw Dr. Strange on a clip, he's is WUBRG, and just good stuff bullshit. Exile cards form your hand when you cast him to put time counters on them, every time a hero etbs put a +1/+1 on all your creatures.Its just going to be a lot of that. Generic boring goodstuff.
>>97945728exactlyhad tmnt been the exact same set but with different scrimblos it would have sold well
>>97945731Unironically, if TMNT was just Slums of Kamigawa in some place where a chemical spill is turning people into mutants and spirits evil, it would have been a beloved set. There's nothing wrong with it mechanically, people just don't want ninja turtles
>>97945694I actually thought the same thing when I saw him. The entire set sort of takes a cue from the Vaxis series. Too bad the latest album is fucking garbage
>>97944968That's not true. People didn't conflate Armageddon with Blood Moon in the slightest before Gavin gave them a shield to hide behind.
>>97945058he listens to Perturbator and Carpenter Brut but his theme is this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7hs3_EYMfg
How many of you have intentionally avoided winning, or let someone win while being able to control the result solely because you didn't want to "make them feel bad". I do it more than I really would like to but I'd rather the game be less fun than be disliked, even by people I don't fully respect.
>>97945966never.
>W/B>spellslinger>access to easy dragon beatsthere it is, he has a home
>>97945840No, people have bitched about blood moon for a while because it is a wildly easy denial to build into by just using red and having 3 mana. It's pissed people off for ages by being one of the most ubiquitous and cost effective hate cards in existence.
>>97943959It's kind of stupid that they gave her the title eagle bearer when there's like 6 different AC characters with eagle sidekicks
a silver lining to brackets is i havent seen a cyc rift in casual in ages when before it was every other game
>>97945994pretty easy when you stay in bracket 2
>>97945966>Played a "win on your upkeep" spell and then Tefari's out.>two people scoop it up>So I scoop up>the third person actually didn't scoop, so they won by default even though they were basically dead to rights.Does that count? Best I got.
>>97945966I've done it once or twice because it was kitchen table and they are still new to the game. I do not care enough about winning to win. I just want to do goofy shit.
>>97945966If I can end the game then I usually do. What I try to avoid is taking someone out when the game probably won't end soon after.
>>97946000most people dont consider a deck-agnostic game changer worth it it seems. it's like how insurrection is a super consistent finisher for red yet no one runs it because they think its boring
>lgs event is paid entry with prizes per win>people bring unmodified preconsAm I wrong for thinking that's the wrong environment for casual precon commander games?
>>97946085Correct. That is a cEDH event.
>>97946085There isn't a right or wrong when there's money. It's either against the rules, you win, or you lose
>>97946085It is, but if they're having fun it doesn't really matter
>>97946043Rhystic is deck agnostic too
I caved and ordered the silver scroll foil ad nauseam for $240 instead of buying any sealed. What's the price trajectory for these Silver scroll cards?
>>97946098absolute mad lad
Do buyfags really?
>>97946124uh oh proxyfag post
do fags really?
Really?
>>97946132It's more likely than you think.
Putting money into Magic cards is better than leaving it in the bank, but the FDIC doesn't want you to know that.
>>97946147Having just seen multiple people try to sell off their collections, no it isn't. You get about 60% of what you think you should.
>>97946182
>>97946147this but video games.
>>97946224Graded sealed nostalgia bait video games are good investments tbqi
>>97945966I play in a friends group and sometimes one of them crashes out hard when he's too high/drunk and having a bad week with other shit. I built my Y'shtola as group hug/slug specifically to pull out if he's on a losing streak and needs a win.
>>97946182Encourage idiots to make MTG their bank. It's that much funnier hearing about them going broke for being retards and not investing in actual shit.
What Rakdos deck should I make that's actually good while also being fun for everyone at the table
>order card>Retard sends it with nothing to prevent it from bending>Comes completely damagedI fucking hate TCG player
>>97945836>SpoilerWith the absurdly high degree of bad takes in this general, I'm shocked that you've managed to best them all
>>97946395Ayara 2.0 or Evereth the suicide bomber.
decent card or just another pretty face?
>picked up the dina precon since I missed playing golgari aristocrats>Upgrade it with like 20 cards and most were pulls from strixhaven >Had more fun playing the deck then I've had in like 2 months playing other shitGod I forgot how much I loved playing this kinda deck, I took apart my savra deck originally because she was just too oppressive for my locals no matter how much I powered her down, but man Dina was so much fun to play tonight, even getting to slam down savra again felt great, maybe I finally go back to her
>>97946458Decent in a couple of extremely specific decks.
>>97946458Decent
Why the fuck is this card in the quandrix precon and has a quandrix watermark when it literally has negative synergy with X-spells and works much better in prismari precons/big spell decks?
>>97944604and I was laughed at when I said this a month ago..
>>97945731>>97945737TMNT is mechanically a very good set, fun and powerful. But from what I observed, the cringe of dumbbell lifting pizza eating anthropomorphic turtles was too much even for the most slop gobbling drones
>>97946489X costs are included in mana value on the stackRule 202.3e
>>97946463How did you play her? I was building her but I don't know where to put the counters
>>97946504I blame UB. It was the TMNT set newfags
>>97946519ntayrt but you out it on the next thing you're going to sacrifice, so that the pile of counters gets bigger and bigger and you gain more and more life
>>97945338Infect
>>97946574doesn't it have negative synergy with infect
>>97946580No? She's the one dealing the damage and there's plenty of proliferate spells that would trigger her dealing damage as well.
>>97946606Yeah but where does the life loss come from?
>>97946616From her second ability? What do you mean?
>>97946637You're giving her Infect, right? That means no life loss occurs from her ability.
>>97945437I don't think Steve has drawn cleavage for this game since Avacyn Restored.
>>97946564Zamn that was kinda obvious but I didn't realize haha ty anonI'm going to try all the malakir rebirth type cards
>>97945437You cannot show the covetous eunuchs the form they so bitterly desire but shall never attain, as it would affect the gnu environment, please understand
>>97946678
>>97946664You made me look, and I was saddened to discover you were right.Lots of good cleavage in that block too
I can't believe this one isn't edited. We had it so good.
>>97946678I call them wanesplarkers and it sends my autistic buddy tweaking, fun times
>>97946085one sotre in the region does precon only random teams (aka separate life and you sit diagonally, for targetting you're considered an opponent) with maybe 5 or 6 banned precons, SLD ones and bumbleflower. Considering for how they've been doing it I'd say you can make an environment for precon games and have prizes.
>>97946756Nothing wrong with fixed deck competitions.cEDH should honestly just start doing that, there's only around 4 viable decks for the format anyway.
>>97945024I own RL cards, but I stole them from a paypig such as yourself. It makes you supergay.
>>97946834>4 viable decksMore like 7 archetypes, wherein stax isnt included and one of which is your deck revolving around your combo commander
>>97946884>i'm a nigger stealing from wholefoods and i'm proud
>>97946898cEDH is a solved format. Deckbuilding is not a process in it, you pick one of the decks that are viable and make it. Having fixed decks for it would just skip that step.
>>97946909He owns the cards , why are you so angry, proxyfag?
>>97946931Yeah and i own the land you're renting on, pay up piggie
>>97946931No, you control those lands. Ownership and control are different terms for a reason ;^)
>>97946923>Having fixed decks for it would just skip that step.But then you cant sell a dream, like Ulalek winning a $10k
>>97946923>Deckbuilding is not a process in it, you pick one of the decks that are viable and make it.Typical quote from someone who has never played competitive magic in their life
>>97946995Competitive commander is bracket 4. cEDH is a poker minigame of sorts.If you mean non-edh magic that's not the topic here. It has deckbuilding by virtue of more card restrictions.
>>97946923t. doesn't remember when Etali was considered unplayable trash
>>97947001Cedh and poker are competitive games, but cedh doesnt want the comparison for obv reasons>b4>no limits to GCs>guys it has deckbuilding restrictionsLol
>>97943571>Just like Teferi.Teferi lost his country, his wife, and almost everyone he's ever cared about. He then spent decades trying to fix the problem and only managed to 'fix' it by sending everyone phased out to a nightmare metal planet>>97942142Don't forget all the angels on Innistrad for no reason other than corruption tag and Nahiri being a bitch
>>97947001>Competitive commander is bracket 4. cEDH is a poker minigame of sorts.Bracket 4 isn't actual competitive magic. cEDH is, as is every other major competitive format.In all of those formats, deck variation exists. In cedh deck variation exists. It's a natural part of what magic is.
>>97947022>In cedh deck variation exists
>>97947027>he cant name the viable archetypes
>>97947027Beholdhttps://mtgdecks.net/Commander/kraum-ludevic-s-opus-decklist-by-austin-k-lindeman-2905898https://mtgdecks.net/Commander/kraum-ludevic-s-opus-decklist-by-benjamin-duursma-2907390Players have preferences and adjust archetypes to fit these preferences
>>97947050>a difference of exactly 1 (one) cardI don't think you're quite making the point you intended to make anon.
Early because the OP was something like 1900 characters and I wanted to trim it down so there's actual room for a TQ before the other two autists can fight over it.>>97947062>>97947062>>97947062
>>97947066Thanks for the early bake :)
>>97947070You're welcome
>page 3
>>97947065There are far more differences than one card. Count them.The fact is that players customize decks to suit their preference, even in cedh. It's not a solved format, even if defining deck archetypes exist.
>>97946147sealed* Magic cardstrying to treat singles as the stock market is retarded
