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I don't want to work. I just want to go home and paint.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
Is one solitaire stronger than an entire craftworld? How many custodes would it take to kill a single solitaire?Discuss.
>>97950003TQ: remember that you can't write rules for shit so you should take an existing unit and just treat its stats as abstracts and work off that
>>97950052Aren't solitaires basically demon princes of Slaanesh tricked by Cegorach?
>>97950052In the Harlequins codex one fights an Evesor Assassin and it results in mutual destruction. At best, they can 1v1 a no-name greater daemon. Not a whole Craftworld.
>>97950003Speaking of Homebrew, if I made up a third type of Crucible character Archetype for Drukhari so that they had three options like every other Army, what should the third character type be? My first instinct is to say a custom Mandrake Lord but maybe a Ship pilot character would be more interesting?
>>97950068No. Their souls are claimed by Slaanesh, more than usual, because they play him/her in their little performances. They don't worship Slaanesh and aren't a daemon.
>>97950003>tqThat not everyone will want to play against it.
>>97950085A raider based character
>>97950052I feel bad Clowns are forced to share a codex with filthy Craftworlders.
>>97950064minicompare.info is a godsend
would it be worth it to get t'au or eldar? relatively new fan here, sitting on around 4k points of csm but can't make a list that's any semblance of good due to not having enough vehicles and lowkey i hate chaos vehicle models. I've got the twin lance cus i wanted to maybe start a t'au army but i'm afraid it'll get nerfed to obscurity and otherwise the playstyle doesn't interest me at all.Don't know much about eldar but I do like their models and apparently they're pretty good, if very expensive.
So why exactly makes harlequins so powerful? They aren't genetically engineered gigasoldiers like custodes so I don't get it
>>97950102Eldar are fun. It's as easy to make a fun list as it is a powerful one
Has 11th Edition been looted by orks?
I like orks :D
>>97950102If you're worried about nerfs just wait until 11th ed rules come out, but the twin lances have already been adjusted so hopefully they won't receive any more nerfs.As for army selection i think you'll be fine with the shooting adjustments coming to 7th since armies like eldar and tau tend to prefer mid ranged engagements, you just need to know when to extend.
>>97950102>t'au
>>97950103They serve a god who actually does stuff for them other than keep a light on. On top of that, they are super coordinated because they basically do nothing but practice their "dance" both on and off stage. You don't just fight an individual player, you fight four of them all moving in conjunction. On top of that they have holofields and flip belts that makes hitting them incredibly difficult, as does the hallucinogenic drugs the Shadowseer dosed you with.
>>97950103Their god is alive, for starters
>>97950123>>97950129So you're telling me the eldar and dark eldar could just start worshipping this god and instantly conquer to galaxy if they wanted because it turns their entire race into super duper mega warriors?
>>97950142No.
>>97950151why nar
>>97950103Technically, all Eldar are genetically engineered soldiers from the war in heaven. They would all be much much stronger than they are now, but they are psychically crippled thanks to Slaanesh. The Harlequin are more or less Exarch tier by default. They are all chosen by one of the handful of living Eldar gods, who empowers them directly. They also have really good gear and training and are inhumanly skilled.Also, regular craftworlders are jobbers so Harlequins look good in comparison.>>97950142Cegorach is the one that selects YOU, not the other way around. Low level fodder aren't allowed to become Harlequins.However, Eldar could still become mega powerful and conquer the galaxy if they devoted themselves to Ynnead. Of course, that has other consequences.
Exodites>ClownsSimple as.
>>97950160T-rex would eat a whole clown car no probs
>>97950152Because becoming a solitare is a very rare thing to happen and it's only when Cegorach needs someone to play the role of slaanesh.It's the similar to imperial saints like celestine, why doesn't the emperor just turn everyone to be like her?
>>97950152Because Cegorach has a goofy clown plan to pull an epic prank on Slannesh and it doesn't require converting the whole Eldar race.
is the collage anchor still up
>>97950106i'll try that, gonna 3d print em tho cus fuck the current prices.>>>97950118yeah that's fair, i just saw someone play with t'au in a game and while he won it was a fucking snoozefest. i could've counted the times he moved his models on like 2 hands, while his opponent (deathwatch i think) was playing much more interesting and dynamic. i'd assume space marines have everything i'd want from a faction but i'd be playing SM vs SM for a good 70% of my games and I don't want that.
>>97950003So, I've been out of the game for a few years and I'm getting back into things. I think Vashtorr's look and lore is badass and want to use him and demon engines! I've always loved oblits, dreads (yes dreads, or hellbrutes if you must) and similar such things. I know the Iron Warrios just got an update, I think, and Im guessing that means Vashtorr/Demon engines got some kind of upgrade. My question is, what all can I use with Vashtorr/a demon engine type army? I'm not sure how to build stuff and have it realistically be somewhat competitive (I dont need something to be a net build but I dont like walking into a game knowing my army is trash and will 80%+ lose). I'm cool with Lore over rules for the most part, I just dont know how it works these days. Anyone run Demon Engine type lists with oblits/terms/mutalators/havocs and such?
Do you think GW will ever free Isha
>>97950191Yes, when they release Exodites in 2050.
>>97950178Take your pick
>>97950191She will become a character for death guard
>>97950193>he doesn't know
I have never seen a thin person playing an eldar army.
>>97950102What do you have 4000 points of, and can't build a list?
>>97950191The Eldar will free her while suffering disproportionately high casualties, then she'll go into some dormant state so she doesn't get yuri'd by Slaanesh and the status quo of the setting won't change.
>>97950202i have but it was sloppily contrast painted and he was an insufferable waacfag
>>97950176have a look at both eldar and tau's mini line up and their detachemnts, and see if you can run a playstyle you'd be wanting to play.Personally i really like seeing tau running retaliation cadre since that's very close range and you get to see a lot of cool plays.
I have never seen a thin hair person playing a chin man army
>>97950202I have but it was a tranny
>>97950202Have you seen many in-shape 40k players in general?
So I guess we need to wait like 6 months to buy a defiler since 5 armies want it and probably wants more than 1 and they are permanently sold out.
>>97950196A caged Isha would be an insanely cool model, actually.
>>97950222skill issue
>>97950222Just in time for then to get nerfed because some competitive players abused the hell out of them at a tourney.
>>97950178>>97950194So what do they use as troops? Actual demons? They cant use CSM's/Cultists?
>>97950196>>97950234That would be another humiliation for the eldar so it's the most likely one
How extensive are biosystems/genetor tech with Admech? Can they make stuff close to space marines?
>>97950241Those are just the Daemon models you have access to in CSM, you can still take cultists or Legionaries
>>97950241>they can't useNo one said anything about that, you can use anything in the CSM roster
Are Marines Malevolent a meme?
>>97950204i have around 4k points of chaos marines, pretty much all of it is infantry and characters of various kinds, i've got 1 rhino and that's it. asked a buddy and he told me i probably couldn't build a good list regarding it. i've got 1 chaos knight abominant but idk if that'll be enough to offset anything
>>97950253Yes, but a funny meme.
Would he still be a jobber if Avatars of Asuryan exist?
successor chapters be like look at my deep lore like stfu you're just primaris intercessors
>>97950264go back to twitter
>>97950264Imperial Fists prmaris intercessors
>>97950265go back to india>>97950267true
>>97950265it's not his fault that he's never experienced warhammer without primaris marines.
>>97950202what does your average ork player look like? I like orks, but I don’t go to game stores, so I have no idea.
>>97950253>>97950258I figured the new kits that are supposed to come with 11th, with the old helmets and repurposed armour, would be a perfect excuse to start an army of them. I also figured some of the space wolf and red corsair minis with simple kitbashing could do the trick as well. Considering their whole schtick is they're rude assholes who have to scavenge most of their equipment.
>>97950273oh right, we pretend 7th was magically different to cover for the secondaries who don't know what an edition is
>>97950271stop projecting, mohindur
Are these guys worth a damn? I love the idea of traitor guardsmen. Fun notes : In 2nd ed you could take like 25% of your Chaos Space Marine army as guardsmen and its always been a thing I loved doing, especially having their tanks backing up Khorne Termies with 2+ saves (on 2D6).
>>97950283lmao
>>97950107>Orks using anti-grav technology normally>Not attaching the chassis to two giant chainblades and using them as treads as the anti grav plates keep them from digging into the earth and getting stuckthis is un orky
>>97950003Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts. This month's theme was crucible character and/or "space wolves getting absolutely destroyed".I'll try to post every thread but I'll also check the archive as usual. If you want to make it easier to find in the archive include "april collage submission" in the post.Here is the vote for next month's theme:https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4p3YlgaLooking forward to seeing what you've cooked up this time!
>>97950293They're a fun little unit as cannon fodder, might be more useful in 11th as a way to swarm into an objective. The kit itself is nice and the models look pretty cool, good head options and weapon options, they also don't have any unique wargear so you could get just regular cadians too with the right weapons and paint them all rough. I plan to do that when I pick up my iron warriors box.
>>97950293>Are these guys worth a damn? you take one or two as backline objective holders, but their kinda bad in comparison to cultists just because you can't take spikey guard in blobs of 20. Traitor Guard have been mentioned a ton in the 10th edition campaign books that had Chaos so hopefully that get fleshed out in 11th.
>>97950178The two vashtorr themed detachments, Soulforge Warpack, and Cult of the Arkifane, are really just for Daemon Engines, and all vehicles, respectively. The other new detachment that's kind of themed for Kravek Morne is the one you'd want to take if you want to mass spam terminators. It basically lets you uppy downy 3 units of terminators every turn. If you want to play Vashtorr and Daemon Engines, though, you're going to want Soulforge Warpack, with 3x Defilers, and 3x Forgefiends. Not a lot of people play it because it's highly skewed, and requires a lot of modeling work beforehand, they're big expensive kits like Knights, and you're going to want to Magnetize everything for posterity. This is the army I plan to build when Defilers go back on sale, but that's going to be a while I would guess. Cult of the Arkifane is kind of weird, I don't really know how to build it after reading it so I guess I'll wait to see what people do, but it's whole thing is giving all heretic astartes vehicles, Vashtorr, and Lord Discordants on Helstalkers 5+++. Sounds pretty cool, but like I said I have no clue what to do with it, helbrutes, tanks, or maybe even just Rhinos with Noise Marines in the shooting deck. No idea.
>>97950253definitely. their lore is mostly barebones, has them be brusk assholes who don’t care about civilian casualties which isn’t unique. the truly unique part about them (receiving sanctions from the mechanicum and are now forced to scrounge for any equipment they can get) was made entirely by Nick Kyme who is regarded as pound for pound the worst black library author of all time. still the coolest chapter to exist though.
>>97950103The harlequin's kiss is conceptually one of the deadliest weapons in the galaxy. You can survive a cut or even getting a limb sliced off or crushed or punched or concussed but a spread of monofiliment wire turning your muscles, organ, and skeleton into wet paste?
>>97950313>Nick Kyme who is regarded as pound for pound the worst black library author of all timeC.S. Goto exists.
>>97950241The time I saw Soulforge Warpack being used, all they had were Nurglings/Beasts of Nurgle deployed to the mid board to lure the opponent out, and a cultist mob for their home objective. Everything else was Daemon Engines, vashtorr, and a couple warpsmiths.
>>97950300
>>97950003>That Rhino is using a stubberOh, Primaris guns, eh? :^)
>>97950300april collage submission hereI tried a different way of painting this guy and while it looks ok on the table on camera it came out grainy as hell, or maybe its just that my paints have been on the shelf too long
>LGS still has Imperial Agents Battleforces on the shelf lmao
>>97950300Seeing the other submissions with all the blood encouraged me to add some saturation to the ground and some spattersThere's a competition at a hobbytown USA next weekend, I'm going to enter this little guy
I hope 11E has good rules for Enclaves, unlike 10E which has:1. Fusion blades locked to Experimental Cadre.2. Retaliation Cadre does not affect fire warriors. Gone is Devastating Counterstrike allowing to do silly stuff point blank.3. Talisman of Arthas Moloch gone.
>>97950293I think they're cool, and despite being human, they get all the Heretic Astartes keyword detachment bonuses. So, like, in Huron's Marauders they get all the fall back and shoot stuff, and extra attacks. Only 20 points more than cultists and you get lasguns and 3 big weapons.If they stay the same in 11th I think they'll actually be good with the changes to cover and objectives. But if they get TOO good, they might bump them up to 90 points or something, and they'll probably suck.
Starting my first marine army after a long time playing Guard. I’ve narrowed it down to Raptors, Carcharodons, or Ultramarines. They all have very different lore and color schemes, just curious what peoples thoughts were.
>>97950003ork looted vehicles look better than the ork normal vehicles.
>>97950293Traitor guard are cool as fuck. The guy with the flamer is my favorite.
>>97950345>nu coteaz and old ass grey knights>flyer>battle sisters mashed into imperial agents boxgee, I wonder why.
>>97950365Don't be a pussy, pick a chapter with a quartered scheme.
>>97950097the real reason it sucks is that models like the great harlequin, harlequin dreadnaught, avatar of cegorach, harlequin warlock etc. aren't allowed to exist now because they'll never get a second wave.
>>97950375While not quartered, I do like the storm lords color scheme quite a lot.
>>97950161but he would get a tummy ache from the 30 clowns all getting out at once.
>>97950309Where are the rules for all the datasheets and stuff you are referring to?
>>97950382https://wahapedia.ru/
>>97950222>5 armiestfw 5765 points of chaos.
I would buy an ork looting sprue that was just a bunch of scrap plates, guns and spare grots to stick on vehiclesassuming it'd be cheaper than just buying a trukk or mek gun and using it for parts that is
>>97950282>red corsairs>marines malevolent>ashen clawsYou got your renegade marines with a chaos lean, imperial lean and independent pirate state.>>97950253in the same way salamanders appeal to reddit chunguses, mm appeal to people who want to be assholes but not religiously themed assholes like black templars.
>>97950260where this come from>would he still beWell there's two options-the first High Elf king was the avatar/demigod empowered by Asuryan-his son was an asshole but then proven right but then the world exploded
>>97950391>a bunch of scrap platesThey sell that, it's called plasticard
>>97950253Best chapter
>>97950307the problem is that a detachment that lets you take them as battleline with 20 guys per regiment and then IG vehicles would be very easy and the GSC already have this with BB, GW is just being retarded and gay at this point.
>>97950365carcharodons are best of those threeif you do raptors you'll have tacticoolfags nitpicking every single pouch you put on them, if you pick ultramarines nobody will ever notice your work at all
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97950396looks like a cake
>>97950345which ones
>>97950407inside her here.Nu-kabalites will look more like corsairs. Raiders/ravagers will be replaced with a rounder looking vehicle that corsairs can use, as GW wants to Skyserpentmaxx. Haemonculi will be squatted.
next black crusade, roight, just shove abaddon up me fat hairy arse, innit
>>97950365>>Ultraromans need HH bits since HH has all the Roman Legion shit that works with them.Carcharodons can be like shark teefs.Raptros are kewl because you can make snipers and shit.
>>97950405>mag pouch placement is wrong!>really? You serve?>No, but I’ve blasted trash with a shotgun on my uncles land twice and I play airsoft, so I know what I’m talking about!Really, they do this shit? It’s so depressing. I love the green color scheme without the whole dangel thing. Oh well.
>>97950424>Really, they do this shit?go look at their subreddit and look at the comments under any kitbashes
Bird Wearers codex when?
Army so far. Dunno what I'll be aiming for with Admech but I'll just do some more Rangers and Vanguard for now. I have someone willing to do a 500 point game at some point to teach me.
>>97950365Ultras are basic (for better or worse)Carchs are cool but are a reddit chapter, and have been flanderized with the maori themingRaptors are cool, but also basic as the default tacticool. You can sorta replace the vibes you want with them by just making a few phobos units for another chapter (ex. Ultramarines make your phobos units have a blue/black/grey splinter camp and the gazillion pouches, etc)I'll always shill Storm Wardens as the chapter I never made; Slightly more interesting Ultras Colors with cooler lore and flavoring.
>>97950424>I love the green color scheme without the whole dangel thing. Oh well.could just adapt it into <your dudes>
>>97950432My first small guy. Practiced on him first before I do the other nine in one go. Prolly will add some designs to the cape and clean up at some point.
>>97950432nice checkers
Man for the Terminator edition it’s wild how underwhelming the rule for Terminators has been this edition. I like to think it’s because they were in the starter sets and 11th will be kinder to them.
Why didn't anyone say filing and shaving plastic from sprues will fill your balls with micro plastics.
>>97950424>Really, they do this shit?the heresy crowd is even worse
>>97950085>>97950095There was an attempt
>>97950472Just don't eat or inhale the plastic, it's not hard. It isn't finecast or resin which fills the air easily.
>>97950424It's really not that hard to google search images of real world kit and copy that, where it makes sense. Would a space marine be unable to reach there? Would it get greatly impede the Marine's regular movement? If not, it's fine.
>>97950486or you could fuck off with your realism faggotry
>>97950489>Choosing Raptors>Fuck off with the realism faggotryThat's the whole fucking point of the chapter, retard
>>97950451Appreciate it. That's my first model and I was surprised how well they turned out.
>>97950492No it isn't, subhuman redditor
>>97950446>>97950442Yeah. Part of the appeal of these three is I really like their paint schemes while at the same time I don’t feel pressured to have an army composition for fluff reasons. For Ultras it’s “we wrote the codex, combined arms for everything”. For the Raptors it’s because we got fucked up in our recent history, we’re reasonable marines”. The Carcharodons is “right tool for the job, and the job is bring brutal, swift, and utter destruction to our enemies.”. All cool to me in their own ways. I’m leaning towards the sharks right now. If someone tries to do a Haka at me, however, I’ll pack up and leave.
>>97950472Partially why I don't engage in it, so what I have a mold line at least I'm not inhaling my models.
>>97950486>>97950492Aaand I’m not picking raptors now. It’s a space fantasy game. And you’re ruining it by trying to tell me a space pirate’s cross draw holster sucks. Who gives a fuck.
>>97950498They are the no-frills, grounded pragmatist chapter. That's their schtick, you dopey cunt.
>>97950472It's plastic's world. You're just living in it.
>>97950300My April submission
>>97950486>Would a space marine be unable to reach there?As soon as you start asking this type of question 40k falls apart entirely
>>97950504They aren't realistic, you are a retard
>>97950504Yeah, but it’s still fucking space marines fighting aliens, angry gods, and and uppity populations onions green style.
>>97950512i didn't know that the puppies used suicide bombers.
>>97950512stop ban evading
>>97950504Look at anon’s pic, anon. >>97950424It’s an giant gene therapied man in 1,000lbs of armor shooting a one-handed SMG with two barrels that fires 20mm shells. Hahaha. Get a grip.
>>97950300Here's my crucible. Use whichever half you like, I am retarded and I can't get it to focus on the whole model
>>97950520damages suit with an equally as injured/dead space wolf inside.Should have gone to specsavers if you can't see the bloody wounds.Btw, how's your collage submission coming along?
>>97950300>Big Dudes leading in the pollWhat big guy (for you) are you going to paint for next month?
>>97950520>wasting an irreplaceable priceless chapter relic on killing a single battlesuit (the tau made 10,000 of them yesterday)wow the wolves really are fucking retards huh
>>97950510Anon, what the fuck do you want? They literally are the "what if modern military, but Space Marines?" chapter. They wear camo, eschew the ornamentation, and conduct asymmetric warfare in the jungle like fucking MACV-SOG. That's their thing.
>>97950531Saturine Termie
More progress on the chinork scratchbuild. Fuselage is basically blocked out and gap filled so I am resuming detail work on the passenger cabin. I did manage to size and cut some clear acrylic for the windows, wasn't sure if I could pull it off with the tools I have, but they fit so snug that I didn't even bother with any adhesive so as to avoid potentially staining them with fumes. Right now I'm working on making some seat frames, after those are done it'll just be some extra rivet details here and there and the passenger cabin will be done.>>97950396Is this your work?
>>97950537>might as well use it for something goodyeah, a tomb for the dead space wolf inside it.
>deleted
There are no wolves left on fenris
I'm so glad he "plays" space wolves and not my faction
>>97950549Repulsive
>>97950253>that heavy bolter patternSo I guess the big secret is MM are actually loyalist Iron Warriors...
>>97950548One of my biggest pet peeves is people pretending to be laughing, you disgust me.
>>97950558you shouldn't be talking about pets
>>97950561You're a degenerate with a foul mind, go paint a model or something loser.
How could he even play any other faction. SW is cringe, just like him.
>>97950557The IW have infiltrated the Sororitas too, how deep does the treachery go?
>>97950558>getting peeved by othersThis is what women do, anon. Showing disgust or disapproval without doing anything about it in an effort to socially engineer a response by others. Men either directly deal with it or skip that shit.Get a hold of yourself anon. Nobody cares if you cringe. Nobody. My brother in christ take care of you and yours and forget the shit out there and there’s a ton on this board.
>>97950563stop evading
>>97950564I rep 4 factions you nomodels trashcan
>>97950504I have replied to you 3 times and I will do a 4th.
>>97950432>>97950449Looks really good anon, nice workThere's no way this is your first army right?
>>97950568Kek, post test levels or stfu beta creep
>>97950566I mean if it's not daemon corrupted she could be using a IW bolt pistol as a trophy from killing one in battle. Well, after she modified it to have a human sized grip.
>>97950539Yes you're retarded we heard you the first time
>>97950549kino
>>97950561Kek
>couldn't even wait 15min to pretend he was timed out because he was seething this much
>>97950504>>97950486>>97950492>>97950539This is an image board. Here, thought you’d like this image based on your posts.
>>97950577>as a trophy from killing one in battle.No they wouldn't
>>97950576Haha, touched a nerve eh? Do you know where you are?
>>97950573Can we look forward to the 4th reply being anything more than "nuh-uh"? Would you like to explain what the Raptor's gimmick is, if it isn't larping as the modern military?
>>97950583Everyone hates you and laughs behind your back about what a pathetic loser you are and how fucking pathetic your cartoons are.
>>97950590Why not?
>>97950579I accept your concession
>>97950597Stop looking in the mirror.
>>97950602four words to admit you've lost the argument
>>97950597NOW THIS is projection
>>97950597Reminder that ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>97950605There was no argument, just me explaining what the Raptors chapter is and you saying nothing at all.
>>97950596ntathe reddit meme of them being the tacticool le gritty realism chapter is severely overblown, THIS is an official depiction of one and he's still got regalia and trophies all overreasonable marines are a meme that don't exist
Fuckin’ ‘ell this thread got shitty, and I mean fast.
>>97950583Hey can I see your models? Curious what our artist here plays.
>>97950616multiple people post that image in response to you, ban evading pedo-kun
>>97950597That anon is a respected peer of this general. You wouldn't understand.
>>97950616not the artist, i just saved it because it's funny.But here is one of my models >>97950507
>>97950617No anon, you're confused. I admire art posting anons and just want to see his models.
>>97950613It's almost as if a certain someone's presence in this thread sends it down the shitter almost instantly.
>>97950612Here's a more recent official depiction. Some pouches, a knife, and poncho.
>>9795054910/10 great pose
>>97950405You were right. The mere mention of Raptors has caused a lot of shit here alone.
>>97950622You stupid fool, I knew it was you the whole time.
>>97950625>aquila still thereyou lost
>>97950628do you think i'm drawanon?
>>97950574It is. Bought a Knights box (Questoris+4 Armigers), then decided I actually wanted to do Admech, so I'll just ally the Knights.The /wip/ pastebin has been really helpful.
>>97950628oh good you have a new schizophrenic obsession, you must've been heartbroken without the orange and tealfag to obsess over like you had been doing ban-evader>>97950630the pedophile isn't very clever, he thought he was being subtle with his request
>>97950451i didn't realize the webway gay was like 14 inches
>>97950629>Drab colors>No purity seals>No bling
>>97950634>no bling>ignore the shiny aquila taking up 90% of his chestyou lostgo back to your subreddit
>>97950633wait I didn't realize the avatar was that big
>>97950638Holy shit you're desperate.
>>97950641Not as desperate as the redditor who's been throwing a fit that we had him pegged from the first post and resorted to post-flanderization art to try and fail to prove his point lmao
>>97950638You are somehow worse than the creature. Please get help.
>>97950644And here the true desperation sets in
>>97950642>Post-flanderizationSo you admit that the Raptors are what they say they are, but now it's a case of GW flanderizing the chapter?
>>97950642>Incessant bitching at a simple question.>"It's actually YOU that's throwing the fit!"You are retarded.
>>97950648Nope! A pair of images based on a feedback loop doesn't define them, as delusional as saying all farseers have cat whisker facepaint because the DoW devs gave macha facepaint because fanart of her had it>>97950652Struck too close to home I see
jesus
>>97950405Rarely do I see a post get proven right so fast
>>97950632You're the biggest schizo nomodels here you pathetic faggot
>>97950432You know you could also do that one Knight detachment that lets you ally in Skitarii and Tech Priests, even if it's not a very good one. If you want to go more into the Admech+Knights lane and go heavy on Skitarii you could do the Hunter Cohort or the Eradication Cohort detachment,
>>97950654I'm not the one you've been arguing with. I can just recognize that you're sperging out right now.
>>97950118>hopefully we don't receive any more nerfsEvery tau player I've played has remarked on how they got off easy and honestly should have had twin lances be punished harder.>t. Seething that Thulia Ghuld is still 25 points more expensive than Twin Lance post nerf
How do youtube painters get their hands on shit earlyhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/8P9xHa3hEXI
>>97950693GW sends stuff to youtubers with enough of a following
>>97950688Every special character should be so shit rules wise you'd only ever take them specifically because you love the character.
>Next Black Library Celebration models is rumored to be the black Alpha Legion MC by Mike Brooks this yearCan't wait to see plastic melt
>>97950688>we
Are there canon examples of non-Mars foreworlds where the tech-priests use non-red robes? Because I can't think of a single Admech I've ever seen without red robes.
>>97950706In a perfect world the game would have>one named character per list max>one "supreme leader" like captain, chaos lord, daemon prince, autarch, etc per list max
>>97950707To be fair, if a black dude walked up to me and introduced himself as "Alpharius", I wouldn't doubt him for a second.
>>97950720love seeing retards like you glazing a version of the game that has never existed for good reason
>>97950549Objectively absolutely cinematic.
>>97950711Wuz
Do Sororita models come with masks or helmets? I like the look of them except their weird faces, and this is a problem I have with GW models
>>97950722>Alpharious-ness King the 4th Jr.Yeah. Just like when I was drunk and heard a woman say she had an ovarian cyst, I thought she had named the affliction after her black boyfriend’s name. Because Ovarian sounds like a black dude’s name.
>>97950725Holy shit stop samefagging your own filth.
>>97950616He posts his stuff pretty frequently in the server
>>97950715Agripinaa and Stygies VIII are black. Ryza and Metalica are orange and white, respectively.
>>97950715read some of the admech books sometime. Agripinaa for example has dark grey/black and Ryza is a bright orange.
>>97950742You're the last person who gets to accuse anyone of samefagging. Stop ban evading.
>>97950715voss prime has yellow and redmetallica has light greyagripinaa is blackryza has orange
>>97950755Voss plus Howling Griffons.
>>97950751Post models or get the fuck out of our general secondary.
>>97950742
KOMIN' SOON LADZ
>>97950759Forgot pic
>>97950760not your general and never will be, redditor
>>97950760You're so obvious every single time on an anonymous imageboard.
>>97950770>NomodelsIts all so tiring..
>>97950715Deimos has pale blue robes
>>97950738please please please please respond
>>97950773wait a minute.. dumb robot?
>>97950785Pretty much all their basic infantry have helmets, yes. Characters, maybe not. The faces are mostly weird because 'Eavy Metal team doesn't know how to paint women.
>>97950738some do some don't. usually it'll tell you on the store description, the ones i got all came with helmeted options
>>97950785Look up a sprue and find out yourself. This isn't your personal search engine.
>>97950792Yes it is
>>97950760
>>97950805You're so fucking weird man, why are you stalking people on an anonymous board you freak?
>>97950805based fellow wolf destroyer
>>97950805I hear the princeps of that titan is going to get a ticket from the inquisition for reckless driving. They may have to take an online course about battlefield safety.
I still don't know what army to play lads, I just have a bunch of random models from disparate factions
>>97950805based
>>97950823as the local Inquisitorial representative, he has been found not guilty by reason of furfags not being human. have a good day Imperial citizen.
>>97950825were than any specific models that you enjoyed building and painting more than others?What about how you'd prefer fighting with your army?
Are there any homebrew chapters that actually look good? Or are they all ugly as fuck?
>>97950832I liked doing Knights because they're big guys, the smaller detailed ones like Chaos Marines annoyed the shit out of meI'm not sure how I'd prefer to fight, I did some kill team with death guard and liked how powerful they were, but they were slowSomething durable but powerful would be good
>>97950839Suncrushers and borean butchers ITT both look great
>>97950842Make a few lists using the models you have the most of, then see which ones would be the cheapest and most fun to paint.
>>97950842ngl it sounds like you just want space marines.>relatively tough>decent power level>not overly detailed for the most partjust because they're popular doesn't mean they're bad.
>>97950830Shit models and faggot disposition, quality combination greyfreak
>>97950805Uhm hello, ordos based? This one right here for inquisitor
>thought admech were the kino mechanical faction that innovated and advanced science and machinery>they're actually a faggot faction of retards that don't design shit and don't innovate at allWTF where's my technofetish faction
How close to custodes (or better) could the Admech and Genetors get if they tried? I'm talking about taking the best genetic material and reinforcing it and enhancing it as much as possible genetically and cybernetically. No mass production either, like building a single hyper performance car from scratch with all the best eggheads and materials available. Nothing like the Afriel Strain or taking a human and augmenting them
>>97950851
>>97950805but if your phone is there how did you take the picture
>>97950855Deldar
>>97950857Nah, greyknight-anon has good models, unlike the mutant.
>>97950855Sir? Your Necron? Your Tau?
>>97950858well he isn't a raging retard mutant that eats his own shit and masturbates to lolis, so he might have a friend or romantic partner to aid in photography
>>97950839while he sperged out I did like the frozen flames scheme
>>97950855you do also get some magi that dabble in innovation but they're largely pariahs and/or hiding it and using excuses why what they're doing doesnt really count
>>97950864thanks anon. worst part is I attempted to stay neutral to him longer than most, even tried encouraging him to be better or change but.. well here we are.oh well.
>>97950880
>>97950885stop ban evading
I've always wanted this as a model
>>97950880You stayed stronger than most, but unfortunately you can't fix some mental probelms.
>>97950880He has such a victim complex atm from being trolled and made fun of that even when you try to ask more benign/honestly curious questions he thinks you're trying to get at him and just responds with closed hostility. Which at that point, any sane person would think "why am I here if I'm just suffering constant abuse" and leave but, well.
bros is Ideon worth watching
>>97950856What if they went the other way? Made a fully sentient non-lobotomized thallax+ who was essentially a full conversion borg with some gnarly abilities. I know in the HH game, some of the higher end Magos builds and characters used to give primarchs a run for their money.
>>97950897You sound like a total fuckin lunatic, speak to a doctor asap shit eater.
excepting some of the fine detailing on the mechano bits, my 2 big showpiece broodcoven pieces are done for my mechanicus genecult
>>97950893>>97950897which is why I kinda felt for him. I'm literally schizophrenic so I understand mental illness but this is beyond anything man.
>>97950904the lack of self awareness is pretty funny
>>97950904Thanks for proving my point ig? Like it's genuinely sad to see, there are people who want to see you improve, but you have to want improvement for yourself and you just refuse to listen to anything people have to say if it's not 100% positive adoration
>>97950908>the schizoposting inquisition guy is better adjusted than the mutantYou can't make this shit up.
>>97950856Genetically, they would probably be worse than custodes. The Emperor had a lot more knowledge and tech than the admech now. But I think if they truly went all out with gene editing and cybernetics, they could make something significantly stronger than a custodian. Would require lots of tech heresy though.
Legs done, just a few more bits and bobs on the helstalker and then I can move on to the rider.
>>97950928How do you guys deal with trim?
>>97950932Slowly.
>>97950932honestly trim is the easiest part of csm stuff
>>97950936fuuuuck thatAre there any factions that are no trim?
I don't get why trim is so hated. Just paint it??
I hate trim and if you like trim I hate you
>>97950952Can we see your model with exception trim paint?
>>97950960Can you stop ban evading?
>>97950961Swallow my massive marine cock you bitch
I like trim and if you like trim I like you
>>97950858
If you are using tmm and complain about trim, you have might have parkinsons.
>canonfag takes photos of his camera rather than take photos with itOLYMPUSGODS WIN AGAIN
>>97950962you have a micropenis, by your own admission
>>97950969>how do you know that someone uses an Olympus? They’ll tell youRent free
>>97950966What lens is that?
>>97950300My submission, under "space wolves getting absolutely destroyed"
>>97950973I mean it's better than Leicafags, who LITERALLY do not take photos
>>97950966But wait, who was phone!?
>>97950966Hold on, now how did you take that picture?
>>97950300>Big dudesMaybe I finally paint those 5 wraithguard
>>97950902Oh I'm not opposed to cyber, but I want it to at least not just be a brain in a jar. At that point it stops being something close to human and more of a weapons platform with a brain.>>97950921Theoretically I want to do s9mething with admech trying to recreate something close to a viable batch of Men of Gold. Obviously not succeeding but trying to get as close as they could. No overtuned warriors with thousands of hours of hypnoindocrination, just humanity+. Obviously they'd be good warriors but the idea is more about making the perfect man than the perfect warrior
>>97950639That's the FW avatar iirc
>>97950980>>97950981i'm sorry i don't have any more tablets or phones to keep it going
>Fulgrim says he wants to take over the Imperium and be the one sitting on the throneI'm gonna laugh if he somehow does and ends up dying
>>97951033This is all part of the Emperor’s keikakku. Trust the plan.
Sisters I'm thinking of getting into Death Guard, how cancer are they to paint?
>>97951017Don't worry. I got you.
When was the last time we've heard from Magnus?
>>97951044they're the easiest CSM to paint because you can just slop shit on and it'll look decent
>Expanding the Horus Heresy has turned 40k into Marvel where all Primarchs are now super heroes>Because of this, we're now reviving them all/bringing them all into the setting as of lateExpanding HH was a tremendous mistake.
>>97950639That’s the FW avatar
>>97951062you're about 35 years too late to be crying about this
>>97950999It is.Sculpted by Juan Diaz btw.It wa originally intended to be a metal miniature but GW chickened out once they saw how big it ended up(despite being the ones to tell him to make it this big in the first place). So he sold the master to Forge World.
>>97951068forgeworld is a part of GW and always has been smoothbrain
Is it just me or are wraith knight paint schemes boring? Imperial knights have cool patterns and heraldry and stuff, and wraith knights are just kinda flat. Post some well painted wraith knights if you got em.
>>97951073Wrong. This is his own recollection anyway, the only smoothbrain here is you.
>>97951082>wrongsilence now, retard
>>97951086Kill yourself, retard.
>>97951087FW was always a division of GW from its founding, I had the WD where they announced a "new branch" of GW with FWFinding out you're a sub-freezing IQ mongoloid must be hard to come to terms with I know but I believe in you
>>97951097Yes, I'm gonna take the word of a nobody on the internet over the person's who actually worked for Citadel.Fuck off.
>>97951106Kill yourself anytime
>Elves get their own faction>Dwarves get their own faction>Orcs get their own factionHalflingbros, we lost...
>>97951110Hello, retard, they can still be financially independent. Helloooooo.Forge World was always resposible for sourcing their own miniatures.
>>97951117You got BTFO and now try to shift the goalpostsSpeed your suicide up, you even being allowed internet access is a burden on humanity as a whole
>>97950738Every one in power armor comes with a helmet on the sprue, but Noviciates, Repentia, etc. don’t.
I know in my heart of hearts making a list based around the new armored infantry detachment is a bad idea. Multiple armored sentinels, hippogriffs, and hellhounds supported by infantry blobs is bound to be victim to anything with lascannons but the idea of swarming the board with mobile, light armored vehicles that can be ordered by foot dudes sounds so fun.I hope in 11e it's a low cost detachment so I can combine it with combined arms and stay punchy even with soft units
>>97951119You were the one who started arguing shit nobody brought up in the first place.Please just kill yourself ASAP.
It's actually nice seeing 2 random anons just go at it with each other, its a nice change in pace.
>>97951125Yes keep yapping little retardremember to go down the road, not across the street. We don't want you fucking up yet again and lingering on earth any longer
>>97950539And yet you t post an image of a retard scout showing bare skin using a crossdraw slung shotgun (using 2 different slings for it and 1 of them covering the ejection port) on his clear weak side, with an upside down knife scabbard that is missing his knife
>>97950738I think all of them come with mask options except for the special characters, some characters (like the priest), Repentia, Novitate, and the bondage flail guys.
>>97951128You're so fucking sad. Yiff in hell, fecalmutant.
So if the Chaos gods have been around for a billion years or whatever, why weren't they fucking around on Earth until we got into space?
>>97951134>realizes he has nowhere else to go>u-uh, you're actually my scapegoat!!!I'm not your ban-evading boyfriend, keep crying
>>97951135they were, doombreed is genghis khan for example
>>97950942Tyranids.
>>97951137Whatever you say, fag.
Night Lords i've been working on.
>>97951142WIP counts as helbrute. Im pretty sure Helbrutes are on 50mm bases.
>>97951076> well painted Wraithknights
>>97951154take your bans like a man and quit evading, mutant
>>97951142neat
just finished some deathwing knights still wip
>>97951158are you a bot or
>>97951160i neat, Iron Hands :D
>>97951140How do you not go insane painting the same bug a million times the same way?
>>97951165Every army’s got mind-numbing repetition. But the answer to your question is the same for all of them. Go big big, paint less bug.
>>97951158You are just as bad as furfag poster. Seek help
>>97951172stop ban evading and stop samefagging, fecal
just found out that archon has a decent leman russ proxy, maybe even a rhino proxy too? Its like half the price of them. Its pretty big as well.
>>97951176why is it upside down?...are you the kinda person to get a boner from models being sculpted all over, including places you wouldn't be able to see when it was done?
>>97951142>>97951147Looks really good. Knew I recognized those spikes on the saturnine but couldn’t find a pic online so I had to go dig around my bits box, didn’t know they fit that good. I’ve been saving mine to kitbash a lord in terminator armor. What do you play yours as?
>>97951183Oh wait Helbrute, I can’t read.
>>97951180I like giving them womb tattoos.
>>97951174He isn't here, the slopper always sleeps between 6am and about 1pm UK time
>>97951174You’re sorely mistaken, anon. Again, seek help
why didnt they update the hell talon? Its so much nicer looking than the stupid heldrake.
>finished painting a model>feel nothing but a resignation of "finally that's done"Anons am I burnt out on this hobby despite only being into it for 3 months
>>97951147Helbrutes are on 60mm (and what GW calls 60mm bases are actually more like 64mm bases)
>>97951206how many models have you painted vs games played?
>>97951212I've painted 13 models and have done 0 games
>>97951203Because the hell talon was a video game design with a model by their subsidiary, a double strike against it getting a plastic refresh
>>97951206Maybe this hobby just isn't for you, it happens. Surely you're not one of those retards that bought full armies worth of models before painting anything, right?
>>97951206Do you like any other sort of modeling hobby, like Gunpla, or Cars or War Models? I can understand entering into miniature painting being difficult if you have no experience. I would honestly say, just try to rip off everything you see on youtube, and rate yourself on how well you do copying them. Also, are you satisfied with anything you’ve painted?
>>97951206If you enjoy a specific part of painting make sure to have a model to the side so that when you're getting tired of painting a specific part or stage of a model you can take a break and recharge.Sometimes it's better to leave somehting until you're ready to do it, remember this is your hobby, it's meant to be for your enjoyment, so focus on the things you enjoy when you're feeling burn out.
>>97951216play some games anon do your painting at a pace you find comfy. you can use unpainted models as game pieces. start things off with small 500 pt games vs someone irl at your flgs that will teach you!!
>>97951203because it already existed while the heldrake didn't and was more in line with what they wanted chaos to be
>>97951257I'm big into gunpla, and no, I never feel happy with what I've painted, they never look right
>>97951206Go to your LSG or to some local event and watch some games. Talk to people. Ask whether they're doing some events for new players, like a league or a tournament for 500 pts or something.
>>97951293>I never feel happy with what I've painted, they never look rightIt's a learning experience, so don't have too high expectations on yourself if you're just starting out.Focus on your painting basics, like brush control and smoth painting, they're a founation on many skills.
I don't know if it's just devastators sucking or melta in general but by god they aren't killing anything without Oath.>take erradicatorsGravis is ugly and they can't go inside a drop pod.
I like painting and learning to be a better painter more than the gaming aspect. Some games with friends and some beers are fun but metaslop ruins anything more serious desu.
>>97951341Meltas suck ass unless you get +1 to wound somewhereStack 20 lascannons they will never be bad
Did space hulk have a story associated with it?
>>97950405>>97950424>>97950486If you're gonna make tacticool marines, at least instead of copying gear on regular humans, you should figuring an optimal way marines would set up their gear, but in a way that makes sense within 40k being space fantasy.In short: don't make space army rangers, make space rangers.
>>97951344I really wanted to use the drop pod. And I find lascannon devastators hard to use because fire lanes are so narrow.
>>97951350You mean the deathwing videogame? Barely.
>>97951350>space hulkWhich one? And yes.>>97951176>russ proxyGo check out Nfeyma; their vehicles are great and there are a few that are outright free
>>97951357Board game
>>97951176>>97951357The free tank that looks like a russ in question. Has a choice of turret and weapons. Yes it also has sponsons.
>>97951358>Space hulk board gameWhich one?
>>97951344Why did they remove twin linked from multimeltas again?
Today I am painting more of my Sisters of Battle.White paint is a bitch.
Ready for the 20 man Gretchen unit to poison the value of the ork side of the box today like the hobgrotz in dominion>let’s pretend like Gretchen don’t have a million proxies as well
>>97951400What the fuck were they thinking with dominion.For all the banter skaventide gets I at least see a lot of newcomers playing with the minis whenever I go to the store.Couldn't say the same thing for dominion when that came out. When the stormcast side is the one that gets the most hype you know they fucked up.
>>97951400I hope they look good and the kit is good too.AoS did something right in giving more flavors to orcs & gobz
>>97951400This starter box really is just gonna bomb innit? I don’t think gw is going to be in the minature game for long.
>>97951404They were doing the equivalent of selling a subfaction of genestealer cults in a starter. It’s weird. Like they’re cool but they absolutely shouldn’t have been a starter faction, they desperately needed to redo bone splitters instead.
>>97951400I do like the look of the spindly orcs I just really don't like AoS as a game or a setting.
>>97951404>>97951406Dominion had the exact same problem that this starter set has, all of the interesting models are in the release right after the box. What is there really for an existing ork player here that isn’t a massive consumer? All the models shown so far are stuff we already had, or people ran third party stuff of because it looked better. There’s fuck all new being shown
>>97951406I'm getting the orks at least. Been waiting for a proper update to the core units since the weird monopose boyz. Couldn't care less about primaris I'm just hoping they don't kill tacticals and rhinos so my soace marine army still looks like a space marine army.
Will GW cease production of the old ork kits?
>>97951417Don’t look at the webpage
I was thinking "it be funny if you had a faction made entirely of Servitors" but that's basically the admech
>>97951423There aren't that much servitors, unless skitarii are somehow counted as such?You also have the techpriests, robots and vehicles. Overall there are very few servitors, counting the strider
If Imperium got a new army, what would you like?What even could be left?
>>97951428what would IT look like, you are not an imperium army right?
>>97951428I'd say more guard regiments new ones.Or:- Illuminatis- Imperial Navy expansion- Ecclesiarchy expansion (not just SoB)- Inquisition expansion- PDF and Civilians/militias
>>97951442>PDF and civs/militia As a GSC player, I desperately want this so it will finally open options beyond miners
>>97951428Another space marine faction.
>>97951446>GSC minersThis.GSC are fun but the miner theme is really holding them back. Sure if one day I'm making a narrative game set on a moon/asteroid/tunnels and I want local enemies there I'm gonna grab some GSC cultists, but that's a very specific situation.
>>97951442>>97951446the issue with PDF is how you really differentiate them from the guard, without just making "GS but they are not monsters" gameplaywiseEarly Humans (outside the imperium) returning is another possibility, as they could enables a lot of very unique design, but they are so niche I think even the Slan are more likely to return.
>>97951453>>97951454If they made a PDF kit with simple weapons like autoguns it would sell for imperial factions as chaff and could have upgrade sprues for chaos/GSC variantsI'd buy that shit in a second
>>97951453Nottingham is well known as scab country for betraying the miners' strikes and starting the decline of unions, so I understand them making a tongue-in-cheek reference with GSC, but it's not enough of a gimmick to hold up a full faction
>>97951350>Did space hulk have a story associated with it?I remember playing this one as a kid, you start off as newly inducted into the first company so you're taking orders from the squad sgt during the missions, then as it goes on you get promoted to sgt yourself and have to command your squad in addition to taking care of your personal businesscool game
>>97951453>but the miner theme is really holding them backNah I think its neat, doesnt mean they cant incorporate other themes though
>>97951449And it would sell. They should put you in charge!
>>97951423>>97951426There’s two types of Kataphrons, you can run 18x of each. As well as a kill team of servitors you can run 3x of, the kill team has a tech priest built into it though, so they’re allowed now. Add 3 priests in to lead your breaches, and you’re at 2000 points.
>>97950222Chinks will probably start selling it soon.
>>97950472You need one of these for the hobby desu
>>97950293>filenameThe models are cool, which is all that should matter, but rulewise they're kinda pointless at the moment.
>>97950472You don't need those balls for anything anyway
>>97950942There are a few CSM warbands without trims, like Purge and Cleaved.
>>97951487ngl, i'd prefer going with a 3d print of a the new defiler rather than deal with resin recasts of plastic sprues, that shit is a painful experience...
>>97950472most of us are loveless uggos so i dont blame GW for not having a disclaimer.
>>97951500doakes.png
>>97951409This is my view as well. Kruleboyz are an interesting twist on fantasy orcs, referencing some oldhammer designs and proportions. But they're not carry a starter box material, like skaven are (or tyranids and necrons on the 40k side of things). It's like putting gsc or harlequins in a 40k starter box. I don't know if refreshed bonesplitterz would've done much better though, I think in aos the only destruction faction with actual popularity are the goblins and they just had their big refresh a year or two before dominion.
>>97951497>3d print of a the new defilerIs it doable?
>>97951406marinepiggies will always ensure it sells well. neither dominion army had a paypiggy playerbase which is why it failed.
>>97951521you'll have to find someone that's made an STL, but i'd say it'll be a lot less painful than dealing with warped recast sprues.Resin recasts are good, but when it comes to plastic recasts I would always voice on the side of caution since there's ususally a lot more work needed to ensure proper fitment.
>>97951526The primaris stormcast were well received but I can't imagine many people were hyped for the orcs. Also doesn't help that they were expecting indomitus numbers for some fucking reason.
>>97951532i think you doubt the amount of 5th ed ork collectors that have been waiting for this.
What is the most cost effective way to make a viable 2k army starting with the nids from the Leviathan box?
>>97951534>hundreds of unsold Dominion boxesThey were right to doubt!
>>97951532>Also doesn't help that they were expecting indomitus numbers for some fucking reason.Well they should have looked to see what made Indomitus so fucking big to begin with. Necrons had a fucking swarm unit in their warrior sprue and had big monsters for necrons to appeal to Timmy. The fuck did dominion have? Poor mans terminator? A single fucking hero on a monster that’s cooler than anything else there? I don’t even like marines but bikers are such a fucking easy eye catcher for a box, although they’re a bitch to put together but they still look good on the cover. Speaking of where’s the fuckin scout riders in the new starter box gw?
>>97951543Dominion? Nah, i'm talking aboutAssault on Black Reach, silly
>>97951546Oh well, carry on then!
>>97951541>most cost effective
>>97951453>70tiesThis bothers me
What detachment fits best this core?>2x tacticals inside rhinos>terminators/assault terminators inside a land raider>multimelta devastators inside a drop pod>vindicatorThat's what I have already and I wanna expand. I have every terminator HQ to choose from too, Lysander, a normal librarian, a normal captain and an apothecary. I could kitbash other named characters.
>>97951541ram raid your local GW
>>97951454>>97951460You either make them a different flavor of guards or you lean into militias>>97951471I didn't say it wasn't neat, I said it being the only theme is limiting.>>97951466Sure, but the current GSC models are just a remake of the old models/designs, so it's a reference of a reference now
Something about Votann and GSC scream reddit to me, like "oh my SCIENCE it's a heckin reference to 80s toylines!!!1111"
>>97951642>my army? oh, I don’t actually own models, haha.
>>97951642your post screams gay faggot to me.
>>97951647I own ten trillion gaunts and that's what I fieldI painted them by dumping speed paint in a bucket and throwing them in
>>97951642I think I see it, if you put the girl/piercing heads on LoVs they are gay af
This just screams "'aw man 'member the heckin alien toys?"
>>97951661>>97951642GSC fans absolutely STIFLED
>>97951657>>97951661I bet you faggots play space marines and think they are more interesting than gsc and votann aesthetically LMAO
>>97951668The only interesting space marines are Death Guard and Chaos Marines
the first person to post them wins
>>97951670>what if generic space soldiers but FAT??>what if generic space soldiers but WITH SPIKES??lmao, no
>>97951674>death guard are the same aesthetic as space marinesAnon...Shit like Iron Hands, Blood Angels or whatever the fuck, that's a legitimate complaint because it's "dude SM but [insert colour]"Still, Xeno and Chaos MOG SM and Imperium faggotryVotann and GSC are reddit though
>>97951076im partial to Eva Wraithknights
>>97951668I play space marines but I think all factions are interesting in all aspects, it's matter of making them how you like them.For LoVs I'd go more into dwarves, runes and totems.
>>97950531does tau commander count as a big dude? (or girl if I want i guess)
>>97951677>GSC is reddit nowFuck off.
Sooner or later, 40k will, too, bow down to Chinathe ancient humans are will return somehow...and they will be Chinese
>>97950300The Haemon tools archtormentor deals so much damage for their profile so I made the weapons big enough to match.
>>97951670>Death Guard>Interesting>Fat marines with pee pee poo poo gimmickAnon?
>>97951712>nowAlways was
I really hope 11th fixes the issue of>unit in cover except for about one model showing a little leg>shooting can wipe entire squad even if you remove the model and it becomes fully in coverUnless I've been playing my few games in 10th wrong?
>>97951713Japan's cooler.
So what factions are KINO and NOT REDDIT?
>>97951713Is it just me or does cathay looks like it's part of AoS despite being a TOW product?I think it's possible GW will bring back Slanns and make them chinese/asian dragons
Are primaris desolators canon? I mean, how could they be? These guns don't even look like proper missile launchers.
>>97951713Of all the things we can take from fantasy (rats in space, goblins in space, trees in space, ogres in space, undeads in space...) we are getting chinese in space? Hopefully not.
>>97951674>what if generic space soldiers but WITH SPIKES??sounds based
>>97951724<faction i like> is based<faction you like> is reddit
>>97951724Thousand Sons
>>97951730This but with the factions I like
>>97951727>trees in space Could honestly be cool. The idea of life thriving in the ocean of space has potential to be downright horrifying and be more destructive than tyranids.
>>97951713why is this unit not multicultural
I know Starcraft was a 40k game before some licensing stuff, so if I like Protoss what should I play in 40k?
>>97951741Eldars obviously.
>>97951741Eldar I guess
>>97951726While the execution is dubious, I do like that they tried to remake the oldschool missile launcher. Belt fed missile launcher isn't a terrible idea
>>97951741>I know Starcraft was a 40k game before some licensing stuffFake News.>>97951741>so if I like Protoss what should I play in 40k?Elfdari share some of the same gimmicks as Protoss
>>97951724Ultramarines unironically.
>>97951726why primaris are so devoid of any sovl?
>>97951742>>97951743>>97951741Aren’t Protoss some furry faction?
>>97951755>/v/ when they pretend to play games
>>97951751You don't understand what unironically means then.
>>97951726>okay space marine rockets but they are marines so they have to double it up! and have wires! and belt fed! and scopes! and targetters! and what if we put a rocket pod under the double rockets! and...
>>97951755>Protoss>FurryDa fuck are you talking about faggot?
Primaris are cool.
>>97951765>heavy bolter pistolI am still unsure if this is completely retarded or perfectly 40k.Has anyone made an invictor dreadnought? As in switched the pilot with a dreadnought sarcophagus from the redemptor kit?
>>97950293They're cool but try and find the old kill team blooded box for a deal and get the enforcer and ogryn and the upgrade sprue. You'll probably have to go to a nonGW LGS to find one. Everyone online is in "I know what I got" mode with the old box
>>97951765This is GK baby carrier tier of shit.
>>97951765God no. Needles redesign of classics and failed attempts at copying 30k concepts. Everything primaris do, 30k marines do in a better way.
>>97951724reddit factions >IG - Cadia>Ultramarines>Blood Angels>Custodes>Tau>Knights >crossairs>votann (lol)>Nids>NucronsBased factions >CSM>Daemons>Drukhari>Chaos Knights>Ad Mech>Sisters>oldcronsLiterally who>IA>Harlequins
>>97950350>1. Fusion blades locked to Experimental CadreGreatest sin. I never cared about those talismans, but 9E was the best Enclaves rules
>>97951726Of course they're not canon, none of the primaris units are because having all of your special and heavy weapons traveling around together in whole squads independent of your regular infantry is the most pants-on-head retarded way to organize them and has never been done IRL because it would be retarded. The only units that make a slight bit of sense are intercessors and assault/jump pack intercessors since assault intercessors are just assault marines and regular intercessors kind of look like current US marine squads all using the M27 IAR with a few GLs mixed in, the issue is that the primaris fire support marine squads, if weapon-specialized, would make more sense simply sending individual squad members or teams or two to different intercessor squads to add heavy weapons support as needed (similar to real life weapons and combat engineering teams) rather than being both strategically and tactically seperate. I mean, SM2 literally ditches all pretense of primaris unit organization and never portrays it (you see regular intercessors using heavy bolters) because the devs were smart enough to know that primaris unit organization would be too retarded for vidya casuals to stomach. The ideal solution would be to simply have primaris marines reorganized into ye olde tactical, assault (they already have that) and devastator squads, of course.>but muh hh marine organization!Also retarded.>but grouping the same special and heavy weapons together has always been the meta!Then it's a retarded meta, clearly the rules need a redesign to make it not meta anymore.>but the eldar do it!The eldar are weird fucking space ninja aliens, they can be the sole exception to the special weapon retardation rule.
>>97951720Yeah I'm not sure anybody likes it
>>97951786Dang haemunculi have 4 pits huh
>>97951787>9E was the best Enclaves rulesi'd have to argue that obsec single man Xv8 squads in 6th was really good.
How do people like Drukhari? Their models are so bad outside of a few vehicles
>>97951786where are craftworld eldar in all this
>>97951757I'm right.
>>97951746>Belt fed missile launcher isn't a terrible ideaBelt fed rocket launchers, anon. Unguided.
>>97951765the final proof marine fags have 0 taste
>>97951795Sounds like cheese
>>97951746>I do like that they tried to remake the oldschool missile launcherThat has been done multiple times and it doesn't look like that. Desolators just look like garbage.
>>97951765I dont hate all the primaris stuff but I do not like this
>>97951789Riiiiiiiiiiight
>>97951806having Xv8's as troops? You must be lactose intolerant if you think that's cheese, but being able to take Xv8's as a troops to get obsec was a great buff.
>>97951807Imagine if votann got released when firstborn were still a thing
>>97951789>Then it's a retarded meta, clearly the rules need a redesign to make it not meta anymore.How the fuck would you even do that, though? Like, I get that IRL infantry try to include different types of weapons in each squad for different roles, so the ideal loadout would be like the artwork of devastators where each man has a different heavy weapon and then half the squad just carries regular bolters to cover them, but how would you make that viable on the table? Because no matter which way you cut it, they'd be throwing less dice than optimal, they'd have to split targets, etc etc
>>97951796only patricians with refined taste enjoy them its not for everyone >>97951798in based tier
>>97951807literally all they had to do was make primaris look exactly like this sculpt but taller and no one would complain. this is pure SOVL
>>97951825they day they squat mk4 box set is the day i'm burning GW to the ground.
>>97951802Still not a bad idea, ask the soviets.>>97951807That's a different oldschool missile launcher, anon. And: learn to read.
Normally I'd say the deldar refresh guy is coping, but the Eldar Corsairs come with updated Kabalite helmets. Seems like GW is preparing to refresh their line.
Votann shit shouldn't exist
>>97951831Valrak already reported they are getting a refresh in 11th a year ago.
>>97951796I like a lot of things about them. Aesthetically they have a very fantastical army of darkness look with a sci-fi bent. Lorewise they're the best parts of trickster fey and the wild hunt mixed with mega corporations dystopia in a cut throat city of endless night in mystical hidden realms. Character wise they have a bunch of ancient immortal magnificent bastards and femme fatales overflowing with personality and mustache twisting scheming. Mechanically they allow for tons of skill expression and extremely reactive play.
>>97951831>corsair helmetsThat's just the ynnari design that they retconned into corsairs
>>97951831It's a matter of when, not if. GW has been steadily refreshing their old ranges for years now.
>>97951826seeing the pure simplicity of these really shows how needlessly overdesigned and tacticool the primaris are. its like gw is deathly afraid of having smooth sleek areas anymore >>97951831>yfw the drukhari ritual poster is valrak
Eldar should be removed from the setting, they offer nothing. They're washed
>>97951847kys
>>97951814Yeah, the optimal deployment of havocs in-universe (since they can't take regular bolter guys to cover them) would be to give each guy a different kind of heavy weapon and then have each of them join a regular chaos marine squad to provide additional firepower, with the plasma gun aspiring champion forming a team with whichever weapon requires the most direct supervision in the given battle. >>97951818Oh, that's simple, anon. Just give the individual heavy and special weapons on infantry more shots (like x3 what they currently have) to account for being main firepower elements of a squad, then give infantry-mounted special weapons and heavy weapons a special rule that means that if there's multiple of the same weapon in a single unit, then only one can fire at a time and the other acts like an ablative set of wounds/a replacement. Then have them shoot different targets as normal. Vehicle mounted heavy weapons would ignore this rule, of course. If you purchased the squad as a unit all carrying the same gun (like eradicators), then give them a special rule that says they are split up into different intercessor squads, one or two men per squad, like a weapons team IRL.>what about eldar and ork tankbustas/flashgitz and stuff thoughLet them ignore the rule and have the same weapon profiles they have right now, they're fuckin ninja space aliens who don't have to follow this rule. Or in the case of orks, literal retards.
>>97951739they had a chinese cultural sensitivity team on it, and they said black people weren’t allowed.
>>97951847you should be removed from existence desu
>>97951847I agree but only Deldar.Replace them with Clowns.
Imagine being the old ones, creating Eldar and realising they're useless jobbers and having to create the Krork instead
>>97951834>>97951847this but space marines
>>97951866And who will keep your game alive, femboi?
>>97951866this but only Loyalist chapters
>>97951865Other way around
>>97951869chaos space marines, plus without space marine loyalists the "40k is just military scifi with a gothic aesthetic" tourists would go away
>>97951869Why do you think about femboys? You marinefags are weird
>>97951726It looks a little less silly without the extra missiles
This is what a real Warboss looks like. None of that artifical Mek suit shit to fraudmaxx how big you are.
>>97951887>artificial mek suit?>Nah, all real artificial mek limbs
>>97951877wrong
my basing idea for my crucible character keeps being "too much" to put on a single character's circle.i'm looking for something almost serene. really want it to give off a "i'm training on top of a mountain" vibe. he's just about to ceremonially behead a Space Wolf on another base.
>>97951789I mean, of course giving a bunch of guys the same special/heavy weapons system and telling them to act as a squad is retarded IRL, you need guys to cover them and whatnot, and you're not gonna need more than one recoilless rifle to deal with an enemy tank, otherwise it's just added weight for a rifleman to carry, so you give it to like, one guy in the squad or attach a platoon-level weapons team armed with one or two of them to a given squad. This is because humans go down just as easily to a standard assault rifle as an MG or grenade launcher, so taking more than one, two, three max of these per squad is kinda retarded.But in 40k? There's superheavy vehicles that can eat multiple AT strikes for breakfast, so of course you get three guys with bunker-busting equipment (meltas) or five guys with rocket launchers, group them together and say "kill that fucking baneblade." Your marines could come across entire formations made up solely of ork nobz, so it makes sense to throw a bunch of hellblasters with massed plasma guns or heavy intercessors with massed heavy bolters together and say "cut down that formation, our regular bolters won't kill them fast enough before they reach enemy lines"This is 40k, the setting does not follow RL logic
>>97951890>t. lorelet
>>97951902>t.t. lorelet
>>97951895How big a base are you trying to fill? Crucible characters don't really have specific base sizes they have to stick to so could probably get away with going up one size.
>>97951907>>>t.t.t. lorelet
>>97951910@grork
>>97951902>>97951907You know you can just both post your source to see whose right. And reminder if your source is NuLore then you're automatically wrong.
>>97951909These kinds of kitbashes always look ass because of clashing aesthetics
>>97951882That does not look good
Krork (better orks) codex when?
>>97951914
>>97951898Then why, anon, did in-universe tactical and devastator squads NOT do this before primaris marines? They canonically used mismatched types of weapons and put them in the same squad to keep them flexible (flexibility is something key in IRL modern infantry squads since it makes things easier on a logistics and strategic level) instead of the primaris "go back to HH single weapon squad organization" style. And it worked. For ten thousand years. Having flexible squads makes more sense from a strategic level - instead of saying "ohhhhh fuck, there's a bunch of nobs coming over the hill, where's the closest hellblaster squad" or "ohhh fuck, there's a superheavy tank coming over the hill, where's the closest eradicator squad and something to carry them" they can just go "oh shit, there's a big threat coming over the hill that my tacticals might not be able to deal with. Redirecting any devastator squad in the vicinity, and my tacticals won't be totally helpless since they're bound to have a missile launcher or something for times like this" Also, why the fuck would Guilliman suddenly change his mind about the squad organization system he created? The simple answer is that there is no good answer for this, GW is just greedy and made different types of squad for every weapon type because they know marinepiggies will buy literally anything.
>>97951929Krorks and Orks are the same thingOrks are relatively tame these days because as bleak as the universe is its nothing compared to the war in heaven>>97951930truth hurts eldar jobber
>>97951865The Eldar were winning until the warp got raped by the whole war thing. I assume this is why Krorks have the whole WAAAGH field thing - to protect against warp dangers which were not present during the creation of the Eldari.
>>97951932Don't worry anon, the 11th ed boxed set leaks say that the intercessors refresh will basically be tacticals, special/heavy weapons and all. Of course, those same leaks say that the other squad will be "eradicators with heavy bolters," which...yeah, I don't fucking know.
>>97951937>The Eldar were winningno they werent otherwise the Old ones wouldnt have needed to make the Krork in the first place>I assumeassume what you like but keep your headcanon to yourself
Let's see what lexicanum says
>>97951932>why the fuck would Guilliman suddenly change his mind about the squad organization system he created?>suddenly I know marine tards are tarded but come on.
>>97951950>Eldar jobbed and Krork were madethanks for confirming
>>97951937>The Eldar were winningThey won, as stated by Necron Codex even, so not biased towards EldarEldar Codexes don't bother mentioning War in Heaven really, it's like that I don't think of you at all meme
>>97951955You are welcomeJust don't use abominable intelligence next time.
>>97951945I thought those leaks said that the new intercessors didn't have any new weapons and are still just bolt rifles
I had no idea who came first so I just said nuh uh until someone pulled out the source
New leaks from Valrak. All firstborn kits are going to Legends except the basic Rhino and the Land Raider. That includes Predator, Vindicator, Aircraft, etc.It's finally time.
>>97951945I'd be hard surprised if they got a special weapon.Maybe the multipart kit, but not this one, they'd have shown it I think
>>97951966I also just jumped in with the lexicanum thing.I dont know why people argue so much
>>97951929it makes no sense for krorks to be considered the "better orks"when they were krorks they were enslaved under the brainboys, they were tools for war, they weren't free either physically or ideologically, they simply weren't orkyif a krork and an ork could see each other the latter would envy the former's power but nothing else, the former would envy the latter's culture, and ultimately both would agree modern orks have it best out of the two krorks chose to rebel against the brainboys and were intelligent enough at the time to know that getting rid of the brain mushrooms would degenerate them as well, not just their overlords, and still went with it because becoming orks was the best for them
>>97951967So the rhino & LR will get refreshed, and everything else will have to wait
>>97951950>eldar createdcheck>eldar winningcheck>warp gets fucked upcheck>orks created in response to new threatchecknot sure why the other guy is assmad>>97951956To be fair, the war in heaven is ancient history even for the Eldar. But all of the Necrons lived ("lived") through the war in heaven so it's fresh for them.
>>97951956>ran off and hid in the webway while the enslavers wrecked the galaxy>"We won!"Absolute fucking frauds, all Eldar should be put into blenders
today's progress90% done with the volcano cannon
>>97951967Good riddance
>>97951967Thank god.
>>97951953NTA but it is sudden. Guilliman went from: "Here is the codex astartes which will help to prevent a future Heresy", to the turning to Cawl and saying, "here's the combat doctrine to train these new marines I have you making in, which is basically the pre-codex one with new paint.", then going into stasis for 10,000 years.
another dub for chaosname ONE time chaos has lost
>>97951970FUCK, WHY DID THEY APPROVE SM2 PORTRAYING A TACTICUS-ARMORED INTERCESSOR WITH A HEAVY BOLTER IN THE FINAL MISSION, THEN???
Any thought of Eldar not jobbing is simply Eldar propaganda. Fuck Eldars.
>>97951987
>>97951988because sm2 doesn't matter
>>97951988repeat after me:GW is retarded
>>97951993nids can't eat warp, they would lose eventually
>>97951993>NidsNot even close to Chaos as galaxy threat
>>9795190940mm base. he be jumppacking too, which means he a bit chonkier than regular infantryhe was going to be my "smash captain" proxy that i could stick with any melee unit ('past', present, and future editions), so the 40mm base was the main limitation lol
>>97951998>nids can't eat warpthey do that too now
>>97951988Because SM2 is retarded>Hey devs, can we have (thing)?>No, it's not canon/codex.>Devs proceed to make a ton of non codex shit like gravis hellblasters or intercessors with heavy bolt riflesIt's fucking retarded. Primaris are supposed to be highly customizable and modular and then it's less modular than marines from 30 years ago who just had access to the arsenal and had like 4 types of infantry instead of 20
>>97952003absolutely delulu
>>97951979Why are you using lexicanum and not codexes? Lexicanum is a wiki making shit up by confusing newcrons with oldcrons. Eldar are openly stated to be victors, period, in Necron codexes at that. Which is why Necrons had to surrender and go to sleep.
>>97951989The Eldar are so fucking gay that they birthed a warp god because of it let that sink in
>>97951789>and has never been done IRL because it would be retarded.Good thing 40k isn't real life. Also they are space marines, they can deal with lugging around a heavy bolter for hours on end, they are super human and the gun weighs nothing in their hands anyway.
>>97951200Why do you know my sleep schedule you total creep?
>>97952011>making shit upthat's the Wikia, not Lexicanum>confusing newcrons with oldcronsthe sources are right there, you're the only one having confusions
>>97952011Eldar didnt win anything they hid away while the Enslaver plague ravaged the universeafter re-emerging they then built their gay empire that was so gay it birthed a warp god not only are Eldar the biggest jobbers in the universe but they are the biggest FAGGOTS too
>E-Eldar are jobbers!!!!some evil and intimidating clowns block your pathwhat do you do?
>>97952029Stomp them into submission, what else?
>>97952029kept alive only by power scaling discussions between homosexuals
>>97952029get some of that clussy, of course
>>97952029I cum.I love clowns
>>97952029Show them the ways of Gork&Mork with a lot of bolts included :^)
The GW-IDF is insufferable.
they should make Ghazghull into a Primeork, if not a Krork.
>>97952029Give him a name and have him fight for the imperium
>>97952029Clown are the good kind of EldarsThem and Exodites are the only Eldars that deserve their own codex and not a shared shit with Craftworlders.
>>97952039I love this model
Where are the Gretchin, GW? You told us to expect new Gretchin today
>>97952041>Primeork, if not a Krork.Both are shitty concepts that only serve to diminish orks.Ghazkull is the biggest ork gw produced and you fuckers still beg for him to be remade into an even bigger model because some braindead retard went off the rails with numbers to sell his novel
>>97952008>Primaris are supposed to be highly customizable and modular and then it's less modular than marines from 30 years ago who just had access to the arsenal and had like 4 types of infantry instead of 20It's hilarious to me that if a primaris marine squad is organized as intercessors that one of them can't just go to the armory and grab a different gun unlike tacticals. I'm imagining a firstborn tactical marine going to the armory to grab a missile launcher and then a primaris intercessor tries to do the same thing. The attending techmarine just puts a mechadendrite on the intercessor's shoulder, shakes his head and says "No, brother."
>>97952021>>97952020you are retardedOldCrons won and went to sleep so galaxy can repopulate after Enslavers. It was completely nonsensical since Eldar then ruled galaxy for 60 million years and didn't bother with defeating Necrons while they were vulnerableNewCrons openly retconned that completely. It's a rare case of an outright retcon in 40k. They explicitly lost to Eldar after rebelling to C'tan and had to hide away, surrendering and hoping that Eldar leave them be. Eldar initially hunted them down anyway, but eventually decided that they don't have to genocide them since that would be immoral. If Necrons get uppity again, they will just slap them down again. And during all this sleep Necrons deteriorated and became broken.Lexicanum confuses Oldcrons with Newcrons
>>97952057I think in this case, it might be the tabletop mini game does not actually reflect the lore as well as the video game does. The way that Space Marine kits are segregated is purely a marketing scheme to sell more plastic.
>>97952055MAKE IM BIGGAH
>>97951726When I can back after my 40K hiatus of “here’s some rules for $200 go win some locals” and saw these models I laughed.
>>97952059the sources cited on lexicanum are using the oldcron (3rd edition) lore, anon
>>97952057>but brother ramius just grabbed a plasma incinerator and he's in an infernus squad, brother techmarine>no brother, his squad was just reassigned hellblaster duties and they were returning their pyreblasters for plasma incinerators, brother ramius was just late because he was taking a massive shit earlier.>but there's only one tactical squad in this company, brother techmarine, and there's like 30 of those old missile launchers in the armory, they cannot use all of them, why not let me have one?>no, brother.
>>97952059>(kr)orks came late when shit was already fucked and didn't fix any shitWho's jobbing who now
>>97952059You're so stupid it hurts
>>97952070it's citing both
>>97952059the nucron lore you're complaining about doesnt retcon the old lore though, it says the mantle passed to the eldar after the war in heaven which is the same as the oldcron lore it just doesnt mention the enslavers being the reason for the sleep
>>97952080retardThere is no ambiguity here>>97952073if (Kr)orks won there would be no Eldar empire, or anything else really
>>97952088It openly states that Necrons couldn't defeat Eldar. It's a meta, unbiased statement, favoring Eldar in Necron codex
>Brother may i have a rocket launcher?
nu eradicators with super heavy bolters datasheet for their new weapons:Range 36"A5BS 3+S6AP -1D 3Heavy, Sustained Hits 1
>>97952073Anons are jobbing Imagine shitting and pissing and crying about whether this or that source supports or not your opinions about some faction
>>97952093They couldnt continue fighting the Eldar because the Enslavers were fucking up the universe, both of them had to hide. Necrons slept, Eldar ran off to the webwaythats hardly an Eldar victory
>>97952089>if krorks wonBut they couldn't, they both failed
>>97952094>my squad is starving for AT firepower, brother!
>>97952096>t.nomodels/nofaction
>>97952105doakes.exe
>>97952105I do have models and I do like my factions, I just don't care whether some faggot likes them or not, and I'm not going to argue about what the war in heaven fluff says because that shit has always been inconsistent and nebulous as hell, I prefer having or talking headcanons about that war.Sue me.
>>97952099That's not what Necron codexes since 5th say. Necrons couldn't match Eldar, which is why they had to hide for 60 millions years until there is a chance to strike back>>97952100Krorks tried to fight against Eldar but failed, just like DAoT humans (still with Men of Iron at their side)
>>97952041>they should make Ghazghull into a Primeork, if not a Krork.this is retarded
>>97952109>Krorks tried to fight against Eldar but failedme when i make things up in my head
>>97952062>I think in this case, it might be the tabletop mini game does not actually reflect the lore as well as the video game does.It's not even "might", that's just a fact.The tabletop has never been fully accurate to the lore, because GW understands that it is a GAME. It needs to bend the fluff and other shit so it'd be balanced.But also at the same time lore also gets bent for just model purposes too. Like take vehicles, the rhino and land raiders are a good example because they are proportionally smaller on the tabletop than what they are in lore.
/myguys/? They're stronger than /yourguys/.
>>97952057>>97952072>primaris marines have autism that was instilled into them by CawlKek
>>97951967nu-gw can eat my assi will just buy recasts and never touch gw slop again
Which of the armageddon boxes are worth it? Thinking about grabbing the Ork box.
>>97952109Nucron and Oldcron lore doesnt contradict each other, both of them have the galaxy being fucked by Enslavers>Krorks tried to fight against Eldar but failedThat was the Orks, who had survived the war in heaven through being annoying spores and devolving because there was nothing left to fightif Eldar ever had to fight actual Krorks they would get thoroughly raped
>>97952120Necrons at their peak defeated the Eldar/Old ones/C'tan. We can easily conclude that they were the pinnacle of the Universe in terms of raw power and technology.
>>97952105stop ban evading
>>97952134>>97952134
>eldar are jobbers>a rag tag group of meme aelf clowns infiltrated the supposedly impenetrable imperial palace >murders the shit out of multiple allegedly unbeatable custodes>delivers their message>refuses to elaborate>leaves>mfw the seethe still exists to this day lol, lmao even
>>97952120I'm sure to win because /mydudes/ are superior
>>97952132forgot to include Krorks lol, Jesus the Necrons truly were the Alphas.
>>97952131Nucron fluff doesn't mention the enslavers.
>>97952139the war in heaven hasnt been retconned though it ends the same way
Is so ridiculous to talk about powerlevel tiers in the endless and grimdark future war of 40k
>>97952055>Both are shitty concepts that only serve to diminish orks.Anon, orks are the very race where everything is "bigger is better".Ghaz becoming a full krork is on character for orks and makes sense.Nevermind that one of 40k's core themes is that many of the factions are meant to be husks of their formerselves.Like the imperium, it's the most obvious one of these, it's a bloated carcass of bureocracy, corruption and retardation that is slowly driving humanity towards extinction due to its stagnancy.For eldar they are a race fallen from grace who literally gave birth to Mega Satan that now wants to rape and eat all of their souls.Necrons are quite literally just shells of their formerselves, no real necrontyr exist anymore, the living metal copies are just that, mere copies. Necrons legit have NO SOULS anymore. They are practically just AI copies of their minds, with failing memories to the point where they can't be sure what is real or not. But most importantly they can't make more of themselves anymore.Orks fit into this as well, krorks slowly degenerating over millions of years into brutish, animalistic creature who only know and want to fight makes sense since they are a quite literally a bioweapon left unchecked when the War in Heaven came to conclusion.
>>97952177this is what happens when you get retards that take toy soldier lore too seriously
>>97952192I only care when its Eldar fags needing to be reminded about what utter failures they are
>>97952188>Ghaz becoming a full krork is on character for orks and makes sense.the sad thing is GW would probably do something that dumb
>>97952188>"bigger is better".so you need their best character to be the canonical biggest or else the character is diminished, which is what's happening with ghaz and primeorks/krorks>Ghaz becoming a full krork is on character for orks and makes sense.no, it doesn't make sense, krorks were by all accounts a different point of their evolutionary history over 60 millions years ago, and/or something that depends on the availability of gimmicky mushrooms, ghaz is a normal, modern ork and doesn't have those shrooms, it's not fitting, it's not natural, and it's utterly impractical with the point of having a model for the character, a stompa sized ghazkull is not viable, so he will forever be smaller than that, so he will forever be diminished as a character because he's not the best>Nevermind that one of 40k's core themes is that many of the factions are meant to be husks of their formerselves.midwit takeorks are not one of those factionseldar are one because their point is the tragedy of a previous galactic empire necrons are one because their point is to be a faction that embodies undeaththe imperium is one because they need a reason to have become unreasonable krorks add nothing to orksyou should be beaten to death with your dog
GROTS ARE UP
>>97952238>orks have to be goofy comic relief forever because I dont like Krorks I agree Ghaz isnt and shouldnt ever be a Krork but to say every other faction fits the theme of regression and leaving out Orks/Krork because you dont like them is odd
>>97952256>>orks have to be goofy comic relief forever because I dont like KrorksI said nothing of the sort, orks can be serious and krorks can be a good addition to the fluff, but you don't achieve that by making all modern orks, including their biggest character, feel like ridiculous ants compared to krorks>every other factionno, only those 3, chaos, nids, tau and orks have no business with a grandiose past, they don't need it, it only undermines themYou're so fucking retarded you don't even know you're retarded.
>>97952238>krorks were by all accounts a different point of their evolutionary historyNot really, orks get bigger and smarter more they fight.Last ork that was closes to becoming a Krork last time was the Beast and he was already very sophisticated.
>>97952297the orks of the beast waaagh still weren't krorks, and also had access to the mushroomsghaz doesn't have the mushroom and is not going to become a krork, ever, because that's not a model that gw is willing to makeand krorks weren't just orks that happened to have fought a lot
>>97952317then when are we getting krorks?
>>97951370Looks great dude, anyone who picks white as the main color for their army has got to be a masochist though.
>>97952317>he orks of the beast waaagh still weren't krorksBitch, I literally said that.Fact is however that orks DO get both bigger AND smarter more battles they win.Ghaz becoming a krork is a just the logical end point of the fluff.
>>97952333Never, that's the fucking problem, they're an unreachable standard that only serves to make all other orks feel inferior.You don't build up the threat of a faction, or the importance of a character by pointing out how they're smaller weaker and dumber than some previous shit.It only makes the faction and character feeling like irrelevant underachievers, or forever stuck in the early stages of a growth that will never pan out.
>>97952350>Ghaz becoming a krork is a just the logical end point of the fluff.No, it's not, read the fucking posts for once, you illiterate nigger.No amount of fighting ever turned an ork into a krork and the beast waagh orks had some of the special mushrooms for their development that ghazkull doesn't have.
>>97952019Because you post for 18 fucking hours a day and the only peace we get is when you fuck off to bed
>>97952365Orks literally get both bigger AND smarter more they fight, the fucking Beast saga alone proved that. It is canon to the damn setting. As long orks fight enough and live long enough they WILL become krorks again.You're the ones who's illiterate nigger who doesn't read shit.
>>97952388>You're the ones who's illiterate niggerESL-kun
>>97952409I accept your concession.
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>>97952388Read the fucking post, instead of repeating your copes.
>>97951998>AttritionDidn't work the first time at shadowbrink, worked even worse the second>>97951993>the hivemind discovers that if you shoot demons they die, C. 854998.M41
>>97952458I'm right.
>>97952505No, you aren't, the beast orks didn't fight more than the 40k orks, they had the special fucking mushrooms.Ghaz doesn't, he's not reaching them, and neither became or would become a krork.
>>97952524They did fight more.>special mushroomsThose don't exist, retard.
>>97951807That's not the Space Crusade missile launcher, just the RT renegade missile launcher.
>>97952579based and mushroom pilled
>>97952579>They did fight more.No, they didn't, the orks were massacred at ullanor by the great crusade, the beast orks started from nothing after that, and appeared out of nowhere already fully grown only a few centuries later, completely out of nowhere, with absolutely no sign of them assaulting nearby systems leading up to their galactic rush.Meanwhile by the 41st millennium orks have had uninterrupted warzone after uninterrupted warzone for thousands and thousands of years, and yet they haven't reached those sizes.>Those don't existYes, they do, they're foundational to the way krorks rebelled against the brainboys and were mentioned in the beast waaagh series.You don't know shit.
