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Previous: >>97951108

>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Did this happen?
https://files.catbox.moe/ika7gh.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44s
https://files.catbox.moe/t0zq17.jpg

>Why is mono green so boring?
https://files.catbox.moe/2x8qly.jpg

>Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
https://files.catbox.moe/8a43jw.jpg

TQ: Do you think players can self-regulate, or do they need hard rules? How should this self-regulation/ruleset present itself?
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People cannot self regulate that's why we have government
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desu I don't care about a quick bake. Fuck sitting on a thread until muh bump limit.
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>>97956161
Speaking of which-
>>97956138
>check out my le epic furry porn site OWO
Fake bake, will not use.
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I think playgroups who don't only play magic can self regulate. Weave in some other board games like terra mystica, hansa teutonica and good small games and players will understand the competive nature with an even but randomized playing field quite well. Pubstomping is such a ridiculous mindset but the game is developed in a way that encourages it sadly. I also don't think other 60 card formats are good or accessible enough to color edh properly for the average player. Premodern being vastly superior to anything they've had in decades shows this. Draft should bridge this gap but there are too many cards and a good 3/4 of any standard set is unplayable to the edhrec poisoned mind of the current playerbase. Release cadence(fuck how much they love this word) is what has really killed the game.

There's also a discussion to be had for small vs large stores and how you develop a community that I'm not going to get into.
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>>97956196
>I think playgroups who don't only play magic can self regulate
every player starts out casual but people who've grinded competitively are more equipped to "power down" and are more supportive of brackets than casual-only players
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>>97956194
Report it for spam and be silent then, idiot.
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Thoughts on the Q-spike?

I just don't know if it's really worthwhile, especially because of the hate it would draw thanks to its oh-so-scary ability.
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>>97956194
Why do you say this yet contradict yourself by using the thread to make your post?
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>>97956223
cards like these are traps designed to test a player's card evaluation skills
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>>97956223
Fantastic removal bait for whichever token creature/unblockable 1/1 dude you attach it to
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>>97956194
No one asked poltard. I'll never understand why you dumbasses think 4chan is a friendly site for you. the_donald was a disaster for every board. MtG is officially pro furry by the way, making you a double retard for playing it.

>>97956138
Good tq. No, all it takes is one annoying faggot to ruin the group (as all posters in this general know full well by now), and anyone who has played with randoms for any length of time has encountered at least one angle shooting faggot that people were too polite to tell to fuck off. There's too many sweats and autists and sweaty autists in the mtg scene to leave everything up to rule 0, which is why brackets were a doomed concept from the get go since they relied on "muh vibes". Each tier needs a ban list and a clear ruling on what is and isn't the intention of that level.
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>>97956223 this >>97956244 is what I use Timmybait cards like QSpike for. If it sticks? Good I have a major threat that needs to be focused on. If it gets removed? Even better, I can play my real game winner. More decks need removal bait.
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>>97956262
Mtg is inclusive game, sir. Even poltard is welcomed.
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>>97956262
>when an IP has furries they automatically approve of me wearing a fursuit wearing degenerate fucking up everything, rainfurrest amirite haha
every anon has been telling you and your kind to yiff in hell well before 2016 faggot
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>>97956223
It was pretty okay like a decade ago, now it's really outclassed.
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>>97956271
This do is a keystone of my Tayam deck.
>ETBs with three counters
>Almost always kills something
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>>97956203
I've only ever seen this be true of people who "grinded competitively" pre insta/youtube/tiktok. Recent players approach brackets and rule 0 how weightlifters approach weight classes. How far can push without (((technically))) being in the next competitive tier?
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>>97956310
>How far can push without (((technically))) being in the next competitive tier?
the issue here is that you expect complete randoms to think exactly like you and not push a bracket to its limits and hold back juuuust right; who the hell do you think you are
for your mental health stay in your basement with people who already agree with you
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>>97956289
>4chan was always a bastion of poltards!

Never was, never will be newfag. Keep being an idiot hanging out in places full of people you hate though. Every gay bay needs a deeply closeted larper to keep things hilarious and spicy.
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>>97956337
third *active* board since inception, and has maintained top 3 ever since
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>>97956307
It's hilarious how much panic it causes in Timmybrains. I have it in my deathtouch tribal and I've had a friend with just 18 life left panic auto remove it when it hit the table despite there being a 12/12 flyer he couldn't block out. Dude just saw HALF YOUR LIFE and couldn't do the math and got one shotted by the flyer player.
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Is it rude of opponent I met for first time today to play a CEDH izzet unfinity attraction deck (has cards like proxy Volcanoc Island, FoW, Rhystic Study, and win con is infinite extra turns by die rolls) vs a modified ysholta and modified tidus precon?
t. modified tidus precon
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>>97956368
t1 necro always warms my heart
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Any custom card fags know a good program for changing color in a picture quickly and easily? I'm trying to make a Byrke alter with something similar to pic related but there's a lot of red I want to change to green to make it Selesnya colored and it's a real pain.
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>>97956379
>shilling for Bryant Cook's big Jewish nose
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I got my friend into magic and he's proceeded to put all the bloody combo cards Conquerer, Vito, Sanguine Bond, Exquisite blood, enduring tenacity, in like 3 different decks. I hate that combo so fucking much 2 card win on the spot combos are soooooooooo boring.
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>>97956390
Have you try killing combo player before that happen yet?
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>>97956390
but what if his commander is a cutie while doing it
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>>97956390
An 8+ mana combo that still needs to connect to trigger is perfectly reasonable at all brackets. Run more removal and if half of the combo piece sticks to the board archenemy them.
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>>97956390
>loses to a telegraphed combo
>doesn't have a combo win of his own
looks like your friend's already a better mtg player than you lol
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>>97956393
he doesn't even listen to my deck building recommendations he'll put 30 lands in a deck thinking that's enough and then try to hard cast a 10 mana 2 card combo just cause 2 card win = good
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>>97956400
it's literally banned below bracket 4 thoughbeit
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>>97956386
I'd use GIMP, magic select the area with the color (expand the selection area to bleed into the outline a bit), then colorize.
this is a /g/ question, technically.
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>>97956407
he loses because I run removal but still proceeds to try while getting mana screwed because he runs 30-31 lands with a manacost average of 4
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>>97956390
Losing is boring
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>>97956416
so why not have your timmy friend have his few wins then is him winning 2 wins the whole night that awful
>no i want to win and when i lose it should be via a way i like
lol
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>>97956413
Too weak for b4, hence why if anyone showed up with it at a b2 table I'd let them rule 0 it in.
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>>97956413
arguing over what defines 2 vs 3 card combos are a headache that doesn't need to happen, when the point is that combos just have to happen in a "timely" manner
>for example b2 expects you to combo off turn 9 and if you can't handle that then roru rumao
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>>97955579 #
Considering arena can’t even have commander implemented nor can you trade or sell the cards you own in a TRADING CARD GAME this is a GOOD thing for arena.

Besides there’s already mtgo and all the pro tour people play standard or whatever format on there for practice + there’s real tournaments with QP points. Arena has 0 price value or dollar value to earn/win.
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Play 44 lands in your EDH deck NOW!
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>>97956196
In what way is premodern superior to any other format currently out there? It is the worst cards from the worst era of Magic.

Now 9th edition or OG Mirrodin to m12 or OG Innistrad? That’s an interesting sounding format. And fits the pre modern label better.
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>>97956223
Have considered running it, it will draw hate/make you the target. It can’t kill the enemy so you can lock yourself out finishing off an opponent if you don’t have someone else to equip this to or a way to destroy it/bounce it.
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>>97956431
>And fits the pre modern label better.
no, I think "only cards printed before the window of legality for the format of modern" fits the label better
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I keep thinking about kissing Thalia. I went on a date with my real girlfriend today and I kissed her a lot but it's not the same. I couldn't even imagine how electric it would feel for my lips to touch Thalia's just one time. To wrap my arms around her slender waist just one time. To look into her blue eyes just one time. My girlfriend is Asian so she is slender too but she isn't white so I don't know if I can marry her. I wonder if Thalia would despise me for being racist. My Asian gf definitely would, not even because of it being a question of whether to marry her. I feel like Thalia would understand. She has seen her world invaded by so many foul beasts I can imagine she would be quite suspicious of outsiders. Including me, since I'm not from innistrad. I don't even know if they would speak English there or if it is just translated for the story. Either way, I would do whatever I could to dispel that illusion. But it doesn't really matter in the end because I don't even have a job I couldn't support myself let alone Thalia. I could never take care of a family with her. There really is so little reason for me to live. My other ex already left me for going to college instead of getting another job. I wonder what Thalia would do? She would be kind and merciful as to all propel, but I am sure she would be disgusted by me and wouldn't want to even consider to marry me.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>97956445
Your arbitrary format coming before whatever is “modern” when it’s just weak reverse power kept bulk garbage when wizards was trying to walk back the first few sets’ power level

“Post-vintage bulk” is better, more apt nomenclature for your format. “Premodern” appears solely to be a pyramid project from some loser who had 1995+ cards and was mad they weren’t worth anything (which is rightfully so) since they worst most unplayable cards in Magic’s history.

Since since the format isn’t taking off and no one wants to play with the worst cards in the history of magic, I’m sure the scammer that invented it have already done a little well with the bubble they’ve created, but I don’t see it going anywhere long-term (outside of since 3rd world countries/parts of the United States)
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>>97956463
Sorry bro Thalia got ROGGED she belongs to BTC now.
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Would you play it?
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>>97956463
Sometimes I feel like my life is hard, and then you post again and remind me that it could be worse. I know this sounds like an insult but I appreciate you Thalianon.
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>>97956578
Does Thalia like my small brown weenie too?
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>>97956485
ah yes, the format that isn't taking off that got an official mode in MTGO and has caused plenty of cards to skyrocket in price, which also contains the "worst unplayable cards" such as StP, intuition, wasteland, reanimate, mox diamond, and tinker
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what's stopping me from just playing Oko to fuck over my buddy to plays nothing but artifact slop decks
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I don't want to yuck anybody's premodern yum, but it just gets boring. Not a long term format, it's a side attraction for people who cling to the past.
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>>97956666
quads of truth
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>>97956666
>people who cling to the past.

That's a huge chunk of the playerbase now.
>reee I hate commander we need to go back to standard like it used to be reee
>reee I hate ub we need to go back to uw like it used to be reee
>reee I hate power creep and how fast the game is wizards needs to freeze card design reee
>reee I hate 10+ sets and 20+ SLDs a year wizards should stop trying to make money reee
The clock isn't rewinding. We're not going back to whatever year people last thought magic was good. Players who have problems with contemporary magic need to accept that and either just enjoy what the game we got is until it dies its inevitable death or grow up and move on instead of crying and seething at the passage of time. There's too many players projecting their midlife crisis onto the game.
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>please play the shitty formats and buy new sets instead of having fun with old cards
nice try maro
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>>97956758
based Gavin
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>>97956767
Feel free to use your old outdated cards friend. Just don't cry when I show up with the 2027 Scrimblo Bimblo precon and have you down to 13 life turn 3 while you're still trying to ramp up to try and play a single one of your now bulk rares.
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>>97956876
>Glissa
;_;
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>>97956876
sure that's fair, I wouldn't complain
although my message was meant for this faggot >>97956742
who's projecting their own midlife crisis
I would have a crisis too if my life was mid
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>>97956876
Man looking at older cards really hits something in me.
>something like a 7/7 for 8cmc wirh no keywords was considered insane back in the day
>now Sire of Seven Deaths, a 7/7 for 7cmc with 7 keywords, is considered "just ok"
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>>97957015
Nice try grandpa. Back in my day we had a 5-mana 5/∞ with flying/hexproof/vigilance. We called him Superman because only God could stop him.
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>>97957024
>have to pay mana every turn to get access to the keywords
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>>97957027
Do you have something better than Superman to spend it on?
Yeah I thought so. Sit down kid. 5 damage on the stack.
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>>97957024
Oh what's that? You're at 6 life? Guess I tap 3 mana to give Morphling +3 to power and swing! Good game!
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>>97957165
Anachronistic meme. I like it.
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>>97957165
>no chainsaws
One good thing to come out of DSK.
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Oh I didn't see we moved threads. To sate my own desire for MLD in low brackets I just built a soft stax deck with yurlok and a bunch of manabarb effects instead. You can use your lands, but it will be very painful
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>>97957031
>5 damage on the stack.
hehehe
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>>97957015
Can this "just ok" card fucking drop already? Foundations has been printed into the ground but every time I check prices for the set nothing has fucking moved. Twinflame Tyrant, this thing, Bloodthirsty Conqueror, and Doubling Season have not budged since launch weekend.
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>>97957180
>14 cards where the illustration contains “chainsaw” and Printings not from Universes Beyond products
We've had them for years.
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Okay i'm caving in.
What's the most FUN commander for a Sunforger deck?
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>>97957227
>Twinflame Tyrant
I will never understand its (normal printing) price. There's a fucking ton of these and they can all be bought for like $1-5 each. Same cmc and everything
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>>97957238
>pick a boros/rw+ commander with hexproof
>attach/unattach/attach/unattach/attach/unattach/attach/unattach at will
Literally choose whatever. Just sit there and cast shit over and over and re-equip with all the free equip shit in boros
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>>97957242
Its the tax for being a dragon.
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>>97957263
Well now that doesnt sound very fun. Seems you failed your basic reading comprehension test and got a stick up your ass regarding boros.

I hope whatever happens to you today clears your mind of all the bad vibes.
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>>97957238
I run sunforger with him. Get hammer, get spell, use spell, cast spell from exile, repeat. I have a lot of fun playing it, hopefully you could too.
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Which of these do I pick to be my next commander deck?
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>>97957381
Evereth
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>>97957381
Narci is cute, but she's only fun if you have the autism to handle spending 5 minutes at the start of your turn ticking up all of your sagas.
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Alternate TQ: Have you built any Bracket 1 decks? Which one is the goofiest, and does it actually win?
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Honest thoughts on this little fella?
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>>97957458
Great inclusion in my Joel/Ellie deck
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>>97957458
Why are Bloomburrow squirrels a bunch of death cultists?
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>>97957477
Societal economic factors
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>>97957477
Someone had to rep Golgari and the bats were pegged for Orzhov.
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>>97957477
Chatterfang isn't from Bloomburrow
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>>97957438
no and I dont even know where I'd begin of what would make it different than a typical shitty bracket 2 deck.
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>>97956607
swords to plowshares is an alpha card as are others on your list

mox diamond has been a staple in multiple formats including a top tier choice in commander for a long time. I own the foil from the vault relics when it was being gouged by scalpers for $75 on eBay when the entire box was $35 new.

youre being disingenuous because those are obviously either A. not the post 1995 cards used in premodern or B. obvious cards that are commander and/or vintage staples. try again but quit lying to others as much as you lie to yourself.
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>>97957458
for me, its Toski
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>>97957531
Toski's fucking dead and should be banned from all formats for the sake of ludonarrative consonance.
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>>97957546
what the fuck you mean by that?
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>>97957458
He's cool conceptually but he combos off way too easily, there's no place for him in honest Magic.
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>>97957361
God i hate the look of Mr elephant man, but you might be right. Trying to snoop around he does seem like the only one doing something fun with the sun stick.
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>>97957550
The Phyrexians got him during MoM. The two monsters in the back there are Toski and Sarulf after getting oiled.
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>>97957381
>>97957384
Evereth seems like the perfect deck for me I love picrel, but I can't into that weird art even though I'm a weaboo
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>>97957586
Forgor pic
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>>97957550
A format in the MTG sense is a framework for playing the game, an adaptation of the core ruleset and the metagame pertaining to it.
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>>97957586
OH NO not my boy Toski. I have had a blast playing with him in a bracket 2 deck I just made from all the goofy ass spam people were posting of him and hes surprisingly really good as a Voltron commander. but thats just terrible to know he was "compleated"

pouring one out for my Squirrel
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I need elks fag memes, can someone post them?
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what is the Koma and Toski Compleated is it a real card that hasn't been released or what
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>>97957662
Like Tibalt, it's something that only happened in lore/background card art
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>>97957674
seems like a missed opportunity
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Retarded question, but adventures work with miracles right?
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>>97957662
The specific card was just an event-exclusive playtest card. It's just a fun thing for event goers, not something that was likely ever planned to see print.
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I suppose Koma might persist in some form since it could partition itself into lesser coils. The infection might not spread between the physically separate bodies.
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>>97957684
Depends on what's making it a miracle. This doesn't work with the new Lorehold for example
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>>97957684
I'm too small brained for adventures. Can the adventure be paid for, cast and exiled straight from the hand or does the creature first have to be on the battlefield?
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>>97957730
Heh. Butthole sail.
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>>97957750
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>>97957750
Magic players will then turn around and mock YGO for not using keywords.
The adventure side must be cast first, from the hand. There is no option to cast the adventure after you cast the creature.
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>>97956428
never!
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>>97957525
>umm..nuh uh those don't count because umm..they're played in other formats
yes you cretin
your argument was that the format is catered only for those with "worst cards in magic history"

I can do this all day you filthy nigger
>ice age dual lands
>hydroblast + pyroblast
>fyndhorn elves
>LED
>enlightened + worldly + mystical tutor
>naturalize
>annul
>onslaught fetchlands
>impulse
>cabal therapy
>chain of vapor
>cursed scroll
>smother
>gush
>meddling mage
>daze
>ancient tomb
>SotF
wow! such a weak format with shitty cards am I right?
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>all the Skoti gods survived Tibalt, Varragoth and Phyrexia
>shithead Valki and all the Einir gods remain in gay baby jail
>big bad bogeyman Varragoth died
>Koma and Sarulf died, robbing the elves of even more of their religious figures
>all it cost was one overgrown rodent and some firewood
Damn the Skoti literally cannot stop winning
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>>97957750
Creature needs to be on the battlefield. You cast the adventure, and as it resolves the creature must be shuffled back into your library
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>>97957750
Adventure is kind of like the reverse of prepared. Instant/Sorcery, then the permanent instead of permanent into instant/sorcery.
If you cast the adventure, then the card goes straight into exile and you can only cast the permanent from there. That's the effect of casting the adventure.
If you cast the permanent, though, you cannot cast the adventure anymore.
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>>97957662
That's not Koma in the background. Those are the roots of Realmbreaker.
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>>97957886
That's Omens, you goober
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>>97957896
There's a couple handful fairies in the pic. Every one of them is an asshole.
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>>97957606
Formats/brackets are just fiats to make players stop playing vintage/cedh because why wouldnt they otherwise



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