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>Previous Thread
>>97954202

>TQ
Time's almost up, have you finished your collage model?
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Fuck primaris.
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Let Chaos idols take this thread!
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Ahem. *Clears throat*
...Trauma team apothecary-centered your guys chapter.

Thank you, no thank you, you're too kind.
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Which primarch would defect to Votann when they return?
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>>97957543
>tq
i'm getting there man
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what are you planning on painting for the next collage, /40kg/?
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>>97957557
None
who the fuck would want to join some gay dwarves
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That's a grot alright.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/upxjoira/new40k-grot-week-reveals-day-2/
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>>97957543
>TQ

yeah its done, still sitting in my light box
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>>97957556
I was gonna do a ">not maxtac" smugpost but honestly most chapters are basically MaxTac already.
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Bros, I can't come up with a good color scheme for my custom craftworld. I don't want to paint them as a canon scheme because then it will feel wrong to play them as anything else.
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>>97957543
>tq
Yes, but I decided to only submit one model since I want to have a different dead chapter on my other model

>>97957553
Flesh tearers are such a great chapter, and Seth's reaction to primaris was correct for a long time.
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>>97957561
Wonder if they'll all be wielding little-shootas this time instead of a mix
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>>97957559
What's the theme for the next? If it's big guys I have a dreadnought ready to paint.
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>>97957561
>something that looks similar to an AK

we are going to get a grot revolutionary detachment arent we
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>>97957567
You don't 'play them' as any craftworld these days, the detatchments are named and described so they're not specific to any sub-faction and I doubt they will reverse that
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>>97957568
It's still correct.
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>>97957567
Can't go wrong with black with red edgebois color.
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>>97957567
If you have DoW 1or2 I'd unironically suggest playing around in the army painter to get a rough idea of a scheme, besides that figure out a colour you like paint and then figure out a complimentary colour tobuo with it.
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>>97957572
yeah looks like it, ill probably just paint some aberrants for it. i could paint a mawloc though, ive got a few options
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>>97957567
Blue, gold, and white.
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>>97957578
>We'll just end up being Ultramarines painted red
Can't remember the exact quote, but who ever the author was to that story had a lot of hate to vent about primaris when he put pen to paper.
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>>97957567
Bone colored armor, dark blue cloth/accents.
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>>97957447
>your own skulls and helmets
I'd prefer to to add the enemy's skulls and helmets.
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>>97957582
I got terminators too if that fits as big guys.
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>>97957567
purple and white
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I like orks :D
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>>97957567
green and purple
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>>97957578
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>>97957596
I have to paint a meganob, any suggestions on paint scheme?
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>>97957567
Blue, red, and bone
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>>97957567
embrace the rainbow, every aspect warrior shrine has its colours, corsairs and harlequins also have their colours, you might as well go balls deep into this and paint in different colors and patterns every individual troop, vehicle and construct
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Charcoal grey and burnt orange, with bone white accents.
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>>97957603
After seeing blood angels 9th ed release I agree with Seth.
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>>97957556
>necromunda-type world
>tt chapter in charge of keeping pressure on nobles to keep the order, like fists do on necromunda if things get out of hand
>chapter are sitting on unparalleled archeotech medical artifacts of a limited stock and knowledge to use them that can revive people from the most grievous of wounds
>keeps the ruling house in line by providing lightning fast intervention with medical assistance to revive their key players in their endless feudal wars and providing them with de-aging procedures. If they act up they withdraw the service until they've come to rely on until they comply once more.
>rumors of xeno tech usage
>chapter members a bit too eager to lobby for joining deathwatch to bring home knowledge of xeno biology
>loyalist pseudo Fabius Bile figure in chapter in conflict with more conservative dudes
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>>97957603
And it is replacement. You have a space marine army that includes basically no classic units and doesn't even wield a boltgun.
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>>97957543
>Time's almost up, have you finished your collage model?
yeah
even had a back up model almost done but I am a bit burned out on ork infantry so I didnt finish him
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>space marinefags
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>>97957605
evil suns, I havent seen evil suns posted here in a while
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>>97957574
first the detachment
then the codex, trust the plan
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>>97957567
pink, light blue, and white
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>completely undo any themes of decay, loss, mysticism and entropy in the setting in their introduction
>fans accept this, even welcome it because it turns out the vast majority of them are completely retarded goycattle

do marinefags deserve to be slaughtered like livestock???
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>>97957574
we aren't
too political
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>>97957634
Wow, cotton candy elves!
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>>97957637
Primaris are cool
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>>97957543
>TQ
Started a bit too late but I should be able to finish in time
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>>97957637
shit nobody cares about enthusiast
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>>97957637
>>completely undo any themes of decay, loss, mysticism and entropy in the setting
marines already did that before primaris
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>>97957634
so true xister
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>>97957637
nigga they're plastic toy soldiers stop taking this shit so seriously lmao
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>>97957637
seething xenofag enraged by Marines high standards and Primaris beauty, many such cases.
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>>97957561
Gonna be great to get a whole 10 of these dudes for 50 bucks.
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>>97957642
it's so goddamn ugly man
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>>97957637
what compels a human adult to cry on this mongolian cartoon forum about some toy soldiers? what went so wrong at his life?
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>>97957657
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>>97957653
>fails to post a rebuttal
Are primaris fags this retarded?
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I sure do love themes of decay, loss, mysticism and entropy represented by marines using the same shit for 10,000 years
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>>97957670
>entropy represented by marines using the same shit for 10,000 years
I know right, pre-primaris marines really had a great design foundation.
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>>97957670
But they haven’t been. Otherwise Volkite technology wouldn’t have vanished.
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I have to agree with anti primaris guys. Marines have lost their original identity that made them cool. Most of the animated media is based around "taller firstborn" anyway. With actual bolters.

Which primaris models have a standard looking bolter? They're all "eldar marines" where they all have a special gun, and maybe a side grade gun.

Gif related, this is what makes marines cool. They keep forcing the primaris with melee loadouts because they are avoiding the Bolt"something" guns like the plague.
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He had to be Sanguinius' son.
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Finished up some panic bought nurglings for this weekend's GT
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>>97957567
Just pick some existing color schemes and either invert them or paint them on in different way like highlighting edges instead of flat colors or creating a gradient between the two main
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>>97957637
Yes. 40k literally established the word "grimdark" in the pop culture lexicon and the reaction marinefags had to (dogass, bad and gay) trench crusade being viewed as "more grimdark than 40k" by the public wasn't "40k needs to amp it up to keep its crown" but instead "WELL...40K SHOULD BE EVEN LESS GRIMDARK THAN IT IS CURRENTLY, AKSHULLY...THEN MY (very original, donutsteel) HOMEBREW MARINES WHO SAVE CIVILIANS AND KISS BABIES WOULD FEEL LESS OUT OF PLACE..."
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>>97957691
Gotta love the painting crunch when you have an event coming up.
They look great and I hope you go well at the GT.
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My elves? Extra racist.
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>>97957642
stop posting and go back to make avatar sequels forever in your featureless white room hell, Jim
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>>97957688
Blood Ravens are pedophiles?
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>>97957567
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>>97957688
blood ravens aren't blood angels, retard
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>>97957561
Why does GW have to overcomplicate everything? Get rid of the hair squig (grots don't get them usually) and the 2nd year engineer student eye bags and you are set.
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>>97957707
My dark elves? Extra inclusive.
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>>97957561
Tiny ears again, fuck you GW!
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>>97957703
Wtf is trench crusade? Actually don't bother answering that since it sounds gay and I don't care for those things.
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>>97957658
Will this finally be the first 2 dollars/point unit?
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>>97957686
>Marines have lost their original identity that made them cool.
>...because their bolters are slightly longer...
>...and because they use special and melee weapons...
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>>97957567
Beige and navy blue
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>>97957703
>AKSHULLY...THEN MY (very original, donutsteel) HOMEBREW MARINES WHO SAVE CIVILIANS AND KISS BABIES

half of all homebrew marine chapters are either this, "reasonable marines" or both. add "lost legion descendants" or "loyalists from traitor geneseed" to taste
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>>97957718
>grots don't get them usually
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>>97957725
Bolter = classic M4s
Bolt rifles = nu M7 crap.
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>>97957713
genuinely made me think if welffags/exos don't want them only to have bright/safe-edge elves
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>>97957733
If you wanted to be creative, you wouldn't pick space marines
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>>97957725
It's because their armour looks bad, the knee and neckguard especially.
It's been 3 editions so far and their still rolling back design changes, even giving us back a helmet with the mk5/7 face grill.
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>>97957725
>have brand new armor, weapons, and HOVER TANKS WITH A BILLION NEW WEAPONS introduced in the setting where "forget the promise of science and technology, for so much has been lost, never to be relearned" is part of the tagline
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>>97957703
I dislike primarch wank and a lot of nu-40k lore immensely myself, but, I think this entire rowboat gullyman imperial redemption arc is pre-seeding Emps becoming a chaos god and the Imperium basically collapsing in on itself in a horus heresy v2 of Gullyman vs Evil Emps plot. Which would be kino if the writers weren't assburgers
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>>97957725
They are just poorfags and shit painters dreading replacing their already depleted and dilapidated armies, sad really.
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>>97957751
I think you greatly overestimate GW writers.
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>>97957688
Is that marine AI or just another GW artist who has weird fuck-ups when drawing guns
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>>97957746
>have brand new armor, weapons, and HOVER TANKS
marines already betrayed that premise long ago, you're just hypocritical
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>>97957751
You mean star child vs evil emp
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>>97957751
Whoaaaa I really like that idea, the father losing his way and his Children working together to restore his once grand vision.
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>>97957751
they won't fuckin do that, the writers are too retarded. they'll just have all the primarchs return to either stand around doing fuck-all like the Lion or be diet Guillimans and "fix da imperium," making it into a generic human space empire with vaguely gothic trappings but none of what actually made it cool in the first place. maybe they'll ally with the fucking tau or something, too, or some other lame shit
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>>97957758
bot slop
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The heresy series was too successful, so now 40k has to be the heresy too
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>>97957761
You don't understand, the Primaris Invader Kart is a self evident betrayal of the beautiful blanchian gothic soulful attack bike.
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>>97957761
Oh man, I'm so glad the land speeder exists to show that space marines still have access to anti-grav tech, but why is literally all their heavily armoured vehicles not using it?
Maybe there's some kind of limitation to the technology.
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>>97957764
>restore his once grand vision.

are you retarded? you do understand the appeal of the setting is that it's hell on a galactic scale, right? eternal carnage and slaughter? eternal torture? that it's a metal album cover fever dream? hello?
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>>97957688
40k game where a space marine has to protect the Star Child.
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>>97957733
>"loyalists from traitor geneseed" to taste
Yea GW is totaly Not Guilty of that.
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>>97957725
Anon if you change how every single part of something looks and works like even if it's only slughtly you end up with a completely different thing. Are you one of the retards that think 343 halo looked the same as the classics?
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>>97957772
Is this another game of 'everything you liked actually SUCKED!' that secondaries and primaris kids play when they don't have a solid argument against why people dislike primaris?
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>>97957789
or Exor"Totaly not Word Bearers"cists
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>>97957686
>Which primaris models have a standard looking bolter?
None. It's either a bolt rifle or a bolt carbine. They also made "heavy bolt pistols" for some god forsaken reason.
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>>97957761
>land speeders

you mean the old tech that they forgot how to reproduce on anything except land speeders? because making something like a grav rhino or land raider is not only something that they lack the capacity to upscale the technology for, but even if they did would land them in tech heresy territory?
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>>97957733
>loyalists from traitor geneseed
Always kino
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>>97957725
Let me ask you something: what's the most storied relic weapon of a Primaris marine? Who wore their armor before then and how many battles on how many worlds has it seen? How many of them a centuries old veterans with as many prosthetic replacements as service studs? How many remember the battles that scarred their chapters in the annals of history and have reason to distrust the Inquisition? How many Primaris have flight and died over tithes and the promise stable geneseed?
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>>97957686
I feel like the tacticool pouches and stuff aren't good for that reason also. When marines have this sleak featureless armor apart from seals and things that evoke "old" it makes them feel more like these ancient armor clad warriors, even if you wonder where they're pooping out their armor from. With all the extra stuff they more and more evoke halo spartans or generic sci fi.
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Nothing ever happens. The struggle for Armageddon? Still ongoing, for 26 IRL YEARS. By the time you see Gorillaman do anything meaningful, you'll be long dead.
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>>97957653
No? Mk7 was developed during the Siege of Terra. Things had been stagnant for 10k years. Mk8 couldn't even enter mass production in that time.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>argument against Primaris
>it ruined the THEMES
>argument against oldmarines
>posting their models
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>>97957772
Bike with a Basket has some place in reality
A retrded Mario Kart vehicle does not.
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>>97957783
The only reason that setting works is because there is a glimmer of hope and a struggle for greatness within the Guard/Marines/Primarchs to achieve their goals of universal domination and extinction of the vile deranged Xeno swarms that infest the Universe. Once that is complete they can begin to fix their internal problems.
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>>97957733
isn't "lost legion descendants" homebrews literally why the lost legions exist to begin with?
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>>97957778
>but why is literally all their heavily armoured vehicles not using it?
because gw was always inconsistent and never bothered to explain shit, same reason why marines aren't all equipped with jump packs when they could

by the way, the stuff under the flyers is antigrav plates as well, and the tech is used in a lot of other grand constructions
there's not a limit to the tech, if there's a practical reason is in the greater convenience of tracked vehicles
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>>97957808
Every single "defense" of primaris boils down to their proportions which is pretty telling because fixing proportions doesn't require every single other retarded change, as proven by the entirety of the chaos and 30k line aswell as terminators. Primarisfags can only argue in bad faith because that's all they got.
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>>97957688
blood ravens still stealing to this day
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>>97957789
It would be extra funny if the covenant of fire doesn't have an overactive melanochrome gland and they're all just normal black guys because that happens to be the population of the planet they draw stock from
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>>97957812
No decalnigger, you're fucking retarded. The point of the setting has always been the galaxy being a hopeless hellscape for everyone involved. The nulore and primarchs were meant to draw in hfy marvelslop fags like you and it obviously succeeded but nothing actually changed in the setting at large.
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>>97957792
>if you change how every single part of something looks and works
hasn't happened with marines, the changes are minimal
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>>97957799
They've never been able to make up their mind what's possible and what's not. Even in the same codex they can give contradictory information. One just has to take it all in and make up their own mind what's real and what's not.
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>>97957818
If there's no tech limit than why did the space wolves stop producing them, hmmm curious isn't it.
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>>97957802
no anon see akshully 40k is generic military scifi with some skulls and shit, and anything cool, metal, anachronistic and thematic like you're describing is lame because it doesn't resemble the marvel movies I consume.
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>>97957818
>same reason why marines aren't all equipped with jump packs when they could
Because they are cumbersome as fuck and have limited fuel? They are a nuisance unless you're specifically using them which is why only the dedicated assault squads get them. Which is also another flaw of primaris. Old jump packs were completely separate from the power armour and could be removed by the press of a button. Primaris have a whole ass separate armour fused to the jump pack.
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>>97957799
>you mean the old tech that they forgot how to reproduce on anything except land speeders?
wrong, they have stc of them, they know how to produce the antigrav plates, they use them on a lot of shit from vehicles to ships to standard shit like fucking servo skulls and bitchy cherubs, you think they fly with their wings?
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>>97957792
Yeah those don't look very different at all honestly
All plates and corners tossed everywhere randomly
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>>97957826
Anon there's not a single part that hasn't change except the pauldrons.
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may I have pictures of anons tau commanders?

preferably converted/kitbashed but anything goes, I recall an anon's XV9 commander conversion a few months ago?
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>>97957804
nta but the thing that annoys me is that Primaris are another element of that weird obsession with tacticool bs that seems to be constantly inserted because some Autists are screeching abaut muh realism. Half an issiue if it's mods to some shooter. But people ofthen focus on ofthen just the elements because they fit. See than Fallout NCR ranger armur that gets masturbated to ridicolous degree.
And I don't want my Space Knights to be "tactical"
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>>97957824
You are literal scum
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>>97957812
>hfy fag

Go back to marvel movies or wherever the fuck you inbred manchildren with the most uninspired normie tastes spawn from. Redditor.
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>>97957818
>same reason why marines aren't all equipped with jump packs
Ah, the age old sci fi problem. In star wars I always took it to mean that if you want to use them like Jango you have to be born in the saddle like a mongol to fine control it like that, otherwise you get basic jump packs for mobility for special troops like stormtrooper specialists who can do small bursts but I justify that as the jumpback being very heavy for those standard troop ones where the mandalorian ones are light, but essentially relics passed down that can never be mass produced for regular soldiers.

You can kind of apply the same headcanon to space marines.
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>>97957812
>there is a glimmer of hope and a struggle for greatness within the .. ..Primarchs to achieve their goals
For Gman and the Lion maybe, but then you have tragic cases like leman, who killed himself after finding out that Isha, his quests goal, was actually happy with nurgle and getting married to him
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>>97957818
>why marines aren't all equipped with jump packs
They are. Bigger question is why can't they have rules for using them?
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>>97957802
some of the primaris equipment is crafted from preexisting revered equipment that gets fixed up and maintained to a new standard and some of the primaris marines are likewise veteran marines who got upgraded with the rubicon surgery
plenty of primaris have become historied veterans in the years since their introduction and plenty of normal marines before them were newfangled nobodies with fresh equipment that wasn't passed down from anyone or anything

you choose to hold the two at different measures because you're hypocritical
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>>97957842
get off this board and stop ban evading, decalfag.
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>>97957806
>No? Mk7 was developed during the Siege of Terra.
so were primaris, by cawl, at the time of the heresy
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Grimderp is retarded
Noblebright is the way
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>>97957841
people are too autistic to think in vibes depending on what universe they're talking about. If I'm playing halo I welcome tacticool stuff, if I'm in 40k I don't, because I want the vibes to give off something that fits the setting's pathos and aesthetics, "realism" be damned.
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>>97957852
>t.
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the only thing primarisbaby marines did better than the OG ones is adding mag pouches and the like them having a few bolter reloads strapped to them is a kino aesthetic, other than that, middery
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>>97957853
Grim dark is good, but some sort of hope still has to remain to ensure that everything doesn't fall to retarded blackness.
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>>97957811
The Ork buggies being posted reminds me: the primario kart and to lesser extent the outrider bikes can't actually function; the outrider can't turn and the kart has no suspension. This contrasts heavily with the Ork buggies which all have modeled suspension and drivetrain, and in the case of the boosta blasta, are even an homage to an actual custom hot rod.
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>>97957852
The important part of the theme was that mk7 had been used for those 10k years. They could have said primaris were made during the dark age and it would still have the same issue of being nowhere to be found in the middle, failing to be part of the theme of stagnation.
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>>97957841
this is so fucking real since primaris design, all the tacticool shit is so retarded is makes me wanna puke.
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Space marines "lost their identity" because they lost their customization. The range is completely different now of course that's what the problem is. Everyone is in the same armor now, and the armor all has the same designs, and even veterans all have the same decoration in the squad so everyone looks the same. If you want a fancy veteran sergeant you can't just take a torso or a set of legs from the veteran kit you have to take an entire veteran and now you've just got a sternguard guy in your intercessor squad because it's just a loincloth that distinguishes a mook and a vet now. You can't change an entire range and just pretend it's the same who cares about what the lore says or what the stupid made up characters say.
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>>97957812
yeah you want to destroy everything that makes 40k unique and turn it into some faggot ass generic scifi don't you
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>>97957860
Obviously, or else everyone would just kill themselves or defect. These ultra Grim queer bait losers hate themselves so much that they infuse that hate into there hobbies.
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>>97957835
>Because they are cumbersome as fuck
if they were cumbersome they wouldn't be used by close quarter specialists
>limited fuel
still better than being always on the ground

>They are a nuisance unless you're specifically using them
so are guns, turns out they're a nuisance that's worth it, and so would be jump packs for ranged troops

stop defending the indefensible, there was no verisimilar guiding principle for units, it's all rule of cool with a disregard of what's logical or practical
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>>97957867
>Nooooo without "muh grimdark" 50k lose it's "identity" hope can't be part of this setting or everything is ruined and i explode in rage!!!
what the fuck? touch grass
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>>97957845
I pray that Leman comes back with elf in hand so I can here the screeching from Eldar bros.
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>>97957855
40k was built for a different kind of autism than tacticool autism. it was built for medieval and ww1/ww2 autism.
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>>97957839
and the changes are minimal
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>>97957866
Same problem plagues 30k now. Only upgrades you can do is swap helmets (which are of different scale now, so mixing in old helmets leads to fucked proportions) and shoulder pads. Bodies across the board are fixed to five poses of each mark and that's it.
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>>97957820
Primaris also have shit proportions anyway
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>>97957849
They retconned the length of the indomitus crusade, it's only been 12 years in setting since dark Imperium not 300 or w/e
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>>97957868
>These ultra Grim queer bait losers hate themselves so much that they infuse that hate into there hobbies
Ikr, some even decided to try and make their own game, but I heard that needed up just being a scam anyway.
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>>97957858
>he doesn't know cawl was around at the time of the heresy
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Just bring Star Child and make a sinister child compete with the skeleton on a chair for humanity control, THAT would be Grimdark...
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>>97957861
people were pointing that out the moment the model got revealed.
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Space Marines will never be this cool again
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I'm trying to release my progenitor geneseed, so I need some good battle reports for stimulus. Any suggestions?
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>>97957872
>I don't want them to make shit fake and gay
>Wow, what a loser for liking things.
I don't know what caused this mentality but I'm not sure where we're going to go from here if no one is allowed to enjoy anything anymore.
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>>97957875
Yeah and if there was just one or two changes it wouldn't matter. If you change every single part of their design ever so slightly you end up with a 3rd party "space jarheads" copycat that kinda looks like the real thing but everything is slightly off.
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>>97957878
how many years do you think it takes for someone to become a veteran in a galaxy of unending battles?
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>>97957840
The xv9 with the shield and over the shoulder plasmas? I chucked that guy out I didn't feel like painting it.
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>>97957898
That didn't happen because the changes have been minimal instead.
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>>97957888
Nah the star child should be pure noblebright to contrast even more with the rest of the setting
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>>97957900
A guardsman? Shit, they're a veteran after six months. A space marine? They live for hundreds to thousands of years, 12 years is a pittance
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>>97957891
Models aside, I think the current veteran units are pretty boring all things considered. I'd love a unit like that or like 30k tactical veterans or like deathwatch vets where you get a ton of options and you can make a swiss army knife unit with a bunch of different weapons. Granted it works better in 30k because of statuses.
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>>97957876
Yes that is also a problem
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>>97957579
Hell yeah
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>>97957906
Every single piece of Mk X is different
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>>97957906
I'm not surprised to see that a primarisfag is illiterate and blind.
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>>97957882
Yes, Cawl was a nobody around the Heresy and some of the early Primaris marines were made from recruits put into stasis around that time as well. Now, find the fluff that says primaris were developed during the Heresy. You can't find it, because it wasn't until after the Heresy that Cawl was even tasked with the job and given the material necessary for it.
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>>97957894
nta but pic related has the vibes that I want in 40k.
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>>97957891
It's not like you can't still just buy the cool models for a pretty penny
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>>97957920
Cute pups
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>>97957921
More like this.
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>>97957909
>They live for hundreds to thousands of years,
no, they don't, many die fast in each and every deployment, one thousand years of age is already an exceptional long time for a marine, you can go count the service studs on many veteran miniatures and you won't necessarily find their faces covered in them.
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>>97957907
I'm now on board with Grey Knights "TOTAL TWINK DEATH" decree
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>>97957737
Ok but that one isn't shit, and I am technically correct. This will likely be the one or two who get them out of the box.
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>>97957927
Idk all the guys I remember had two to four.
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>>97957872
>>97957860
>>97957868
You are too weak-minded to stomach any fiction that isn't centered around "the good guys win, there is always hope." That kind of fiction's well and good, by the way, but you fuckers want to tear down everything that isn't that so that you can make it into that, because you are massive pussies who get all uncomfortable and start bitching about anything that doesn't present the option of a bright future. What, is "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" le grimderp and bad now because there's zero hope in that story? Pansies.
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>>97957920
>yes cawl is from the time all other marks were developed
>and so were the recruits
>and the technology
>and the know-how
>and the resources

>but mk10 is absolutely a betrayal of the idea that new tech can't be developed unlike the others because it was rolled out later!

You're missing the forest for the trees
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>>97957921
Warhammer genuinely isn’t for that. Not for 40k, not even for either of the fantasy settings. You’re better off looking into mork borg or something.
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>>97957938
Because we are men of action and you are a pig who would flourish wallowing in the mud of a grim dark setting, your point of view speaks volumes about your character and lust for depravity.
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>>97957944
And you're grasping at straws.
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>>97957928
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>>97957572
yea. It's big Guys. I have an old Tau Commander Mini that I want to repaint so That's nice. Also a Good ground for painting cammouflage.
>>97957593
I dunno if Terminators count. 40mm is a bit on the egde of BIG.
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>>97957959
This star child shit is gay as hell.
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>>97957938
Nigger, all I said was that there needs some light to contrast the overwhelming darkness.
Narrative contrast is important, otherwise your readers will just turn off if it goes on for too long with no pay off.
It's why short stories are the best medium for no hope bleakness, because there fast and the ready can properly digest it, but if you want to have a vast universe but also have the foundation be very ingrained in grimdarkness you have to sprinkle little bits of hope so that people can actually feel like their investment in the IP isn't pointless because nothing good ever happens.
Fuck, even bleak stories like The Road knew this, and it's why it's such a great story.
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>>97957947
You are a massive, massive pussy and you won't do shit. You haven't accomplished anything. You probably turn your head at disgust at the metal scene, too, fucking faggot.

I like hopeful fiction, too. But if you take something that isn't hopeful and make it hopeful, it's just as bad as taking something hopeful and making it into something dark and edgy. Because both are methods of making things fake and gay. The keyword is fake. But you're such a massive bitch, you can't stomach anything NOT representing ideal morality, you're just as bad as those "TAKE EVERYTHING GOOD AND SUBVERT IT TO MAKE IT DARK!" faggots. You're a coward. You're afraid.
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>>97957967
it's also ripped off of the stupid Plague Wars book where it was also gay as hell
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>>97957959
>anormaly detected
>if you even our king?

was this written by a retard 2nd grader from the inner city?
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>>97957980
I think the artist is korean so it's engrish
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>>97957946
>morkborg
Jesus christ you didn't have to insult him like that
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>>97957959
this is fake, lame, gay and retarded. also ESL.
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>>97957967
I'll take the RT version with Sensei and all over whatever subversive abortion BL is squeezing out these days.
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>>97957983
okay, why would you spend several days making this art then not bother running the text through chat gpt before publishing? thats like spending all day making a beautiful cake then rubbing shit on it at the end right before you eat it.
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>>97957968
>so that people can actually feel like their investment in the IP isn't pointless because nothing good ever happens.
Worms like you should get flogged on the streets to make an example.
You're not "making an investment in an IP", you're buying a fucking toy, the IP doesn't have to change to make you feel good, if you don't like it you should do like a tree and kill yourself.
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>>97957992
The comic predates chatgpt
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>>97957992
What the fuck do I know, ask him instead kek
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>>97957992
It might surprise you, but bots weren't always a thing.
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>>97957986
This image is incredibly funny.
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>>97957971
You sound like a literal warp demon
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>>97957991
>ahhh, see, we had da Emperor wound nurgle and revive Guilliman from the dead during a fight with Mortarion where he loses! Subverting 40k's grimdark by making it noblebright!! it's the star child you see!

They really need an IP manager or editor who takes one look at this shit and does pic related
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>>97958009
The one who burned the plague garden wasn't the star child was the emperor proper
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>>97958000
no its not, the terminus decree lore about the GK putting the Emp back on the throne just came out a few months ago with the GK codex. Its directly addressing that.
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>>97958002
That isn't true. Microsoft word 2007 edition, which I still have on CD and use, has an autocorrect feature that would have caught these grammatical errors.
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>>97958019
it might surprise you, but the image isn't done on microsoft word.
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>>97957947
>>97957968
>>97958006
Stop ban evading.
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>>97958015
Ah mb didn't read it.
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>>97958006
>nooooo i'm too weak to stomach fiction that doesn't all have muh noblebright hopecore at the end of the road, you're a DEMON!!! all fiction must be the same!

and you sound like a literal faggot. please refer to pic related.
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>>97958021
Are you seriously telling me they don't have a text application in korea with an auto correct feature, a country where English is taught in every middle school and used in half the businesses? A country with the 12th largest economy on the planet?
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>>97957968
Go fuck yourself. You're a coward. Go read some fuckin' Gaunt's Ghosts if you want narrative contrast, it's enough. You don't need faggoty ass "AND THEN THERE WAS HOPE FOR THE GALAXY AT LARGE!!!!" uninspired space opera bullshit. This is not Star Wars.
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>>97958033
If they do, how come the errors are there? Is this some kind of cosmic horror story to you?
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>>97957995
If I'm building an army and making up some fluff for my dudes that's still an investment of my time into this IP, if the overarching narrative of 40k was "why bother, the end is coming" then I doubt I'd have such a lasting interest in 40k beyond maybe a day of deep diving the fluff then moving on.
The IP doesn't need to change to fit my tastes, but I wouldn't be buying 40k toys if I wasn't interested in it's fluff.
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>>97957890
In that model's slight defence even ye olde space marine bikes have front mounted bolterguns with very limited fire arcs. That and the primaris armour is probably tankier than the buggy's plating anyways
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>>97958048
Saying read Gaunts Ghost is ironic once it's actual hopeslop with how much Dan insulates them and how they deal with other factions.
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>>97958051
>if the overarching narrative of 40k was "why bother, the end is coming" then I doubt I'd have such a lasting interest in 40k beyond maybe a day of deep diving the fluff then moving on.
But hasn't that been the narrative since forever?
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>>97958051
>"why bother, the end is coming"
That's how it was and how it is and it still is the most popular wargame around.

Fuck off, you don't belong, the opening statement is about your dudes no mattering, that should be a liberating statement, because it means you can do whatever with your dudes and your friend dudes, but instead you are a thin skinned maggot in need of assurance that there's a good ending in a setting built for goddamn wargames.

Unironically kill yourself.
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I just wanna say. Due to civil discoussion itt abaut The feel of 40K I just wanna Add that THIS PAGE from the Redemer comics Is what 40k is abaut.
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>>97957561
Weird time to release IDF troopers in 40k
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>>97958061
That was my point. Read Dan Abnett's hopeslop if you want hope, it's insulated and doesn't contaminate the rest of the setting unlike the metaplot bullshit. It's the best way to handle it.
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>>97957812
40k never struggled with being "too grimdark" as much as other settings like trench crusade do because it always had some fairly decent self awareness and comedic flare to it. You dont need to have all the primarchs come back and wrangle Khorne in a big montage while screaming "TOGETHER WE ARE WARHAMMER" to make it so the setting doesnt wallow too much in its own slimy reality. 40k always had hopeful characters that are few and far between without making them outright superheros who want to save the galaxy and beat all the evil guys running the imperium to put it back on the right track to save humanity or whatever the fuck, it feels way more realistic to have a single captain or admiral that cares about his troops on a personal level as opposed to Guilliman walking into the office of the High Lords of Terra and saying "yeah no I run this place now sorry" and the literal most powerful people in the galaxy not doing anything about it because the setting has to be good and the marines have to be nice
Grimdark settings usually demand a certain level of dettachment from the audience, they are not meant to personally relate or see themselves in it under most circunstances. However in our current culture the only things that sell are the ones that try to have a direct emotional connection to the customer, one they can project themselves in like teenage girls listening to Taylor Swift or Lana. This is also why GW is so bent on adding woman and black people while whitewashing the imperium, you HAVE to relate to someone and project yourself into whoever you are playing as
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>>97958068
can't be, where's the goylem and the youf shields?
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>>97957812
Go away, fecalfag, it's clear you don't get nor like 40k.
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>>97958074
This guy gets it
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>>97958080
stop name and shaming me you annoying faggot
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>>97957718
To be fair it's pretty easy to just remove the hair squig and paint over the eyebags so this feels a bit like a non issue
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>>97958088
Stop being a faggot, warhammer 40K
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Finally it's all becoming clear
>noblebrightfags = decalfag
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>>97958063
The narrative has been "it's the end times but I'm going to fight tooth and nail to stop it.", which I understand the confusion, but even when there's no mcguffin to save the day it's the fact that you have characters still willing to fight and push on that gives that illuminating light that helps contrast such bleak setting.

>>97958064
You can read my above response for my thoughts on that. given your volatile outburst and crazed need for others to acceythe bleakness in things I think you might wanna seek some professional help if you're find this affecting your day to day life

>>97958071
But the meta plot has always teetered on hope, even before gathering storm at the end of 7th ed all the warzone conflicts had their very clear setupmup of overwhelming darkness vs embers of heroes holding out hope.
Primaris have definitely affected the scales with that heavily, which was probably why GW was scrambling to make high stakes stories for the psychic awakening books to help give weight back to the setting, which fell kinda flat.
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>>97958105
every time you use some variation of Decal/fecal/freakal or w/e the fuck you derail the thread, just shut your fat trap already.
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>>97958074
>However in our current culture the only things that sell are the ones that try to have a direct emotional connection to the customer, one they can project themselves in like teenage girls listening to Taylor Swift or Lana.
(you) get it. Modern audience want to insert themselfs into Stories Remember the saying hoe People on Twitter treat fictional characters as if they were real people? Yea. I don;t know when that started but it seems to be a recent Internet thing. Be it SJW'S and chuds who see "their message" in any media apperentaly. Nobody is a viewer anymore, everybody wants to be a character. Or worse...a Main Character.
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>>97957995
I think the problem with big franchises like 40k is that the marketing department has hyper-optimized them for normalfag consumption. So many of these lost, atomized miditws latch to media IPs like a tick because they have nothing else to find fulfillment in and they tie their identity so deeply to being a consumer of this product that they start seeing it as a reflection of themselves. It's why everything these days just feel like another itteration of marvelsop. They can't make anything that's isn't constantly soothing the various neuroses of the niggercattle or else they'll just find another franchise to shackle themselves to and you lose 50% of your whales and 80% of your dolphins.

I just wish we could go back to the days where the normalfags went to church and shit like 40k was for losers in their basement and not unmarried wageslaves.
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>>97958088
If you weren't shameful nobody would shame you.

You don't belong.
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>>97958120
>t.NPC
Sorry you don't feel that your life is important or has meaning.
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>>97958119
stop ban evading
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>>97958074
I think a lot of people have successfully gaslit themselves into saying 40k "needs hope" because they saw trench crusade, didn't like it because it feels TOO dark and when trying to articulate why, they went "well it must be that 40k has...some kind of hope, right? Like that makes it less dark, which makes me like it more" which is how you end up with people who will say "40k needs to be more grimdark" and "40k is better than trench crusade because it has a glimmer of hope" in the same sentence. I've seen it. Really they've misarticulated it - 40k feels less dark than something like trench crusade because it's more self aware, and that's what draws people to it. Dark, but not depressing.
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>>97957901
aw man, do you still have the photo?

and well, guess if I do it, i'm not copying anyone now so....
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>>97958118
>but I'm going to fight tooth and nail to stop it.
no, it's the end times, period
you're delusional
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>>97958126
>I just wish we could go back to the days where the normalfags went to church and shit like 40k was for losers in their basement and not unmarried wageslaves.
You really didn't have to give yourself away like this
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>>97958118
>But the meta plot has always teetered on hope
No, you fucking retard.
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>>97957567
Orange and teal
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>>97958105
You can pretty much bet on any shit take coming from the decalfag
>muh primarchs
>muh primaris
>muh hopecore
>muh centurions
>muhn't xenos
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>>97958154
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>>97958161
Can you shut the fuck up you pathetic fucking worm?
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>>97958050
ESL retards should kill themselves for not being able to publish 3 sentences of correct grammar, correct. If just shows they are an inferior human being, complete trash. If I published something in Korean I would take the 15 seconds to have someone in my twitter following spell check it so I didn't look like a complete fucking retard.

If you can read that comic and not cringe, you yourself are a retard.
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I hope the 5 grots thing isnt their way of saying the squad only has 5 unique sculpts
For the love of god do not put 4 identical character sized grot sprues in the starter box
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>>97958170
meant for >>97958118
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>>97958175
>If just shows they are an inferior human being
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>>97958178
Serious doubt, a gribbly screen mob obviously has to be at least a base-10 sprue
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>is it really my ban evading, obvious tells, and shitty models, shitty personality, and shit takes that constantly derails the thread?
>no! it's/40kg/ that is wong!
how is this the conclusion he comes to every time, why does he refuse to see that he is the problem.
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>>97958118
I always understood it as more of a "it's the end times and I'm not letting anyone take away what I have" with the Imperium fighting until its last man to keep itself from being a fallen empire again while most of its leaders lack the self awareness to realise what lead the imperium to be falling apart like this to begin with and just repeatedly doing the same thing again and again doubling down until they exhaust themselves. 40k's fallen empire theming doesnt necessarily mean EVERYONE in the Imperium is bad but that most of the people who get to call the shots are, some people in the administratum can beat a veteran space marine lieutnant's kill count with just the stroke of a pen and planetary governors exhaust resources with their own luxuries. The whole idea about the Imperium coming back under Guilliman already completely tramples the way the Imperium's leadership and direction was treated up until 7th. There can be plenty of good characters and things to break down the grim reality of a whole society shooting itself in the foot over a couple self important rich jews but in the end the Imperium is falling apart and miserable for a reason and if that reason is simply not shown or negated its not the same thing
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>>97958074
I agree, except one thing. It's a roleplaying game, you can roleplay a despicable terrible person for fun. 40k primarily offers you the role of an armchair general who delights in ultraviolence. 40k moving away from that to noblebright gullimen is part of the problem.

Not disagreeing, just clarifying. People have lost the ability to play pretend as someone who isn't them.
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>>97958178
5 unique bodies, 2 builds per body, one with gun, one with pistol and knife
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>>97958135
And? Why would I give a shit about 40k if everyone fighting against the end just said "nah, there's no point I'm just gonna die" and gave up. Like I said, you can have bleak darkness, but without a tiny bit of light to add contrast to it my investment will be limited because since there's no narrative beats for story to go to besides "and then things got worse." Hell even with how bleak the ending to I have no mouth and I must Scream is it does 2 things right, keeps the story short, gives a technically net positive end to some of its characters at the personal sacrifice of singular character, which is a story beat that's been used for centuries.
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>>97958119
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>>97958198
Everyone hates you
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>>97958213
>And?
and you don't need any assurance or hope that they'll prevail or survive or matter in the slightest, or even that they are harbouring normal human emotions

it's literally just metal album cover vibes, if you don't get that, you don't get 40k and shouldn't get into 40k

how "invested" are you into 40k despite not getting the first fucking basic thing about it?
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>>97958219
meant for >>97958213
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>>97958119
Shut the fuck up, pedaltroon.
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>>97957713
god damn exodites are cool
they're going to be totally neutered tree hugging dinofags if they ever get added, though
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>>97958224
What assurances are you talking about? All I care about is having armies still continue to fight despite the such doomed situations.
I'm starting to think your trying to grasp at anything to have a sperg out over.
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>>97957605
evil sunz are a pretty rare sight like the other guy said, but if your army is a mishmash of different klans, you could never go wrong with bad moonz or maybe you could do blood axes who use the meganobz as walking tanks (because their looted wagon is out of commission).
or you could go purple like I’m doing because it’s the color of royalty which the meganobz most certainly are :)
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>friend asks to see people's first models and something to compare them to
>Find some old dread and termie chaplain pics

Man this takes me back. Do you still have your first models? These technically weren't my first, those are probably the tac marines from the black reach box but they're buried somewhere in my house.
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never ask a primarch what race his wife is
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>>97958272
which primarch do you think would wife up an ork?
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>>97958271
First model? I'm a nomodelz GOD.
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>>97958271
Forgot the pic
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>>97958278
Why are you here then?
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>>97958279
tell your younger self he needs to drill his barrels
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>>97958284
That chaplain is metal and I was very poor then, but younger me would agree
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>>97958282
To participate in lore discussion of course :)
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I like tactical squads and drop pods :D
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>>97958277
Alpharius
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>>97958277
leman russ has been the wife of many orks, he likes taking it from behind and joking about it
>(k)not in that hole! ;^3
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>>97958308
Your jokes wouldn't amuse a grade schooler you pathetic nerd.
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>>97958297
Oh ok, you should consider picking up some models and getting into the hobby, it's a great way to meet people, if that's not your style maybe you should consider killing yourself :)
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>>97957713
I like that brown and bone one.
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Anyone tried to run a map-based campaign? I'm thinking about re-using Planetary Empire rules with Hexton Hills tiles but I wonder if there are any fun non-GW system-agnostic campaign modules.
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>>97958132
Exactly, 40k knows when to call it quits and to stop spiraling into total misery too much while still being a dark setting. I feel this is mostly done through presenting things that are incredibly depressing and horrid in setting but that arent as shocking and even comedic to the audience like Karamazov walking around in a throne full of actual human skulls, penitent engines, a poor barely literate guardsman yelling "the emperor protects" before being turned into a ceiling fan by a drukhari raider. The absurdity of those things being cranked so high creates a contrast between what the characters see and what the audience sees while trench crusade is a way more grounded setting where people just get slowly suffocated to death through gross looking plague dogs dying in trenches while begging for salvation. Trench crusade is also filled with stupid shit like "hey this guy 600 different orphans ans raped 4 thousand woman to get a demon token" and plays that 100% straight while 40k knows when to call it quits for that
>>97958204
I agree with that, it's why I play guard, it's pretty fun to pose your commanders on the corpses of their own man instead of rocks and I wish they came with more medals all over the place
My bad for not really clarifying that but yeah exactly people cant comprehend the idea of not personally being like the charactee they play as, everything they consume has to relate back to them as a person. I kept seeing a lot of "what your 40k faction says about you" reels showing up on my instagram and it was just sheer nonsense. It's mostly a wider issue with consumerism but one that GW evidently bows dow to in order to increase sales and the worst part is that it generally works wonders for them, they are larger than ever and the best avaiable option for having a more interesting 40k is to just have a small group with similar views (which I dont believe is THAT hard to find) and play with them while appropriating some new miniatures now and than
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>>97958316
do you work for GW or an LGS? Why are you so upset when people aren't continually spending money on this game?
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>>97957567
Salmon pink helmets, dark matte blue armor, white cloth and highlights.
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>>97958341
nta but just leave
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>>97958315
meant for >>97958170
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>>97958279
My first serious models were the old Seraphon Start collecting box. Yea I had no clue then.
But the earliest model From 40k I can remember is a small tau box. I thought abaut starting an Tau Army. Never did and stayed in a Fantasy/AOS lane.
Tho next month collage is a neat chance to revisit him and do him again.
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>>97958308
Leman russ has been the wife of many niggers, how else you explain the abundance of black sons?
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>>97958341
I'd be fine if you 3d printed of even papercrafted an army, I just dislike people come here without any intention of starting the hobby.
Plus you sound like a fag
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>>97958349
I'll take that as a "yes"
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>SoB are one of the most popular faction with fans
>they are barely played
why is that?
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>>97958362
>why is that?
Because of secondaries, it's that simple.
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>>97958362
They're very expensive to collect
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>>97958362
Coomers don't buy models or play the game
There's a similar situation with Tau going on
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>>97958357
No ones laughing, its dead silent and the room is questioning whether or not to hang you.
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>>97958362
bolters suck
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>>97958362
Hard to paint well, expensive to collect, hard to play, and the style of gameplay to be good with them doesn't actually use most of the models people actually like from the range. They also directly compete with Black Templar for the holy warriors vibe.
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>>97958380
the way to play sob is with an all meltas list
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>>97958376
None of the tau models are very coomer friendly.
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>>97958362
Ironically this is exactly the same situation the mechanicum is in
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since we are on the topic of sisters, need some suggestions for my celestine color scheme i'm planning, going for a white gold & black with some greens and blues, but missing something that 'pops'
any ideas anons?
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>>97958362
most people don't want female soldiers
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>>97958357
>how else you explain the abundance of black sons?
cuckoldry
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>>97958393
That's never stopped coomers before
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would be funny if they just retconned yvraine and gave maugan some edgier range as "ynnari"
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>>97958356
Redoing your first is always nice to see the progress of your skills.
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>>97958414
>need some suggestions for my celestine color scheme i'm planning, going for … some greens … but missing something that 'pops'
>any ideas anons?
purple
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>>97958414
Hunter orange.
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>>97958162
stop ban evading
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>>97958410
Yeah, as the first and second most expensive armies in the game they share a lot of similar problems. I have to think at least part of the problem is both of them are Imperium armies and therefore get a lot of their popularity cannibalized by Space Marines (and maybe Guard) by default since people that like the Imperium ALSO like Space Marines and they are way cheaper and better and easier.
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>>97958338
They made a new map campaign system in 500 Worlds might wanna check it out.
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>>97958297
>>>/lit/
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>>97958414
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Man these new grots are so ass compared to the old ones
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>>97958279
I only started just over a year ago, and fucked around with some grots (which I ended up stripping) before these guys, but these are the first minis I full on declared finished, and still have on my shelf.
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>>97958462
it's a shame because both those armies have the most gothic and actually 'grimdark' sculpts and the best looking models in the 40k line
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>>97958489
(you)
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>>97958271
I actually repainted my first model twice, but its squadmates are in their same shit paintjob
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Valrak is not HYPED for the 11th edition boxset...are you?
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>>97958530
What's there to be hyped about?
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>>97958489
Yeah, we've reached the point where gw is remaking miniatures for the sake of remaking them instead of with the purpose of improving anything.

I can't imagine the rumor of the battlewagon getting replaced being true.
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>>97958530
Who gives a fuck what some sloptuber thinks? People are crying that a starter box has intercessors in it like every Space Marine player shouldn't have a squad or two to start with.
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>>97958489
I will personally enjoy not having their faces fused to the guns. thank you.
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>>97958549
if the most pig-like of marinepigs isn't buying the slop, then the box is flopping hard
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>>97958530
I am for the orks. I don't like primaris. I like that speeders are coming back but dread that tacticals and devastators are gonna get squatted.
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>>97958555
sad to hear, it means that the supply of people selling the ork side of the box to pocket the space marines will likely be more or less equal to ork players selling the space marines.
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>>97958530
I am hyped to get cheap orks on ebay
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>>97958555
I think I hate every 40k YouTuber. Tried watching a vid from Bricky this week and he did nothing but slurp his drink and smack his lips on a toothpick directly into the mic for 30 minutes. Fucker kept stopping mid sentence to plug his flavored toothpickS as well. They all seem horrible if they aren't just devoted to painting tutorials.
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>>97958489
The old kit was weird and annoying with how arbitrarily some of the models didn't have swappable heads
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>>97958591
>Tried watching a vid from Bricky this week
why
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>>97958593
>arbitrarily
the pose, anon
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>>97958462
isn't GS still more expensive than these two to play?
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>>97958628
I think it's
1. GSC
2.AdMech
3.SoB
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>>97958530
Valrak is the only decent tuber, I don't watch him regularly but if I want to fanboy out on an announcement its fun to watch his channel because of his seemingly genuine enthusiasm.
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>>97958530
>a bunch of monopose primaris models we already have

doesn't seem that great. i'm not an orks player though so I don't know how much it appeals to others.
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>>97958435
yeah this is probably it, maybe with a bit of blue in it
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>>97958652
it's probably going to be good for orks players
new models + big box value for a horde army
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>>97958646
stop ban evading and go away fecalfaggot
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Marines successor chapter that recruits exclusively from Sec Maegra and the Port of Lost Souls. Who should their geneseed sire be?
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>>97958674
Why wont you just leave me alone...why..
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>>97958599
First video I saw pop up talking about the Land raider detachment.
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>>97958687
Why don't you just leave instead and do everyone a favour?
If you weren't an unsalvageable failure 24/7 nobody would call you out for not fitting in.
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>>97958605
They didn't have to be posed like that.
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>>97958704
But it's better for them to be posed like that, aiming poses are good.
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>>97958687
decalfag is an eternal phoneposter. why are you pretending to larp as a retarded person? if you want attention, why don’t you just paint and post your own models, and be really annoying. then you won’t have this secondhand infamy.
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>>97958591
>Bricky

I want to erase this idiot and his cringeworthy 40k lore summary videos that every fucking YouTube orbiter have defaulted to as their introduction to the setting.
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>>97958686
White Scars. Steal human slaves. Break their chains then turn them into chain breakers.
Khan, but not Forgotten
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>>97958530
It’s orks for people who like orks and your regular marine side that every edition gets. I like tyranids over orks, so leviathan was better than me, but it’s a matter of preference.
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>>97958637
1. Adeptus Mechanicus
2. Sisters of Battle
3. Leagues of Votann
4. Tau Empire
5. Drukhari/GSC tie
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>>97958686
The only way they could do that is if the dark eldar sold them the children they routinely round up, because marines don't have a reliable access to the webway, let alone one to commorragh.
Not a bad twist for a chapter though, I'd say raven guard.
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>>97958731
He just reads the wiki and does some witty commentary. I don’t get why he is so popular. There are sloptubers who actually read shit out there.
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>>97958741
is there a bigger laughing stock than votrannies
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>>97958593
>he thinks nu-gw will give the new grots swappable heads
LMAO
every single one will be monopose with zero customization
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>>97958751
considering there's a faction that looks the same but bigger, marines.
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So, uh, since there's no "Your Dudes" threads do we just post about cool "Your Dudes" lore in here?
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>>97958782
yeah, shoot
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>>97958782
Yeah
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>>97958741
tau are bad but kroot are worse
>kroot riders
>$50 per model sold in single model kits
>30 points per model, units of 3
it's disgusting.
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I really like ogryns but don't really like the guard. What do I do?
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>>97958808
play AoS
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>>97958808
play custodes but every model is proxied with ogryns
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https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23803175/

If this is real, where will we go once 4chan goes bankrupt? I'm not using Preddit.
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>>97958808
Old world ogre kingdoms
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>>97958827
we will all become discord trannies
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>>97958808
proxy. surely there’s one elite unit that is made up of three fat fucks in your army which you could use ogryn’s as a stand in for.
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>>97958808
You don’t have to play them. Just buy a couple as a hobby.
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>>97958489
Then you better stock up on the old ones as long as you still can.
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>>97958827
Cool I guess.
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>>97958808
Play Vanguard Detatchment Guard.
>HQ tank
>3x Ogryn Squad
>3x Bullgryn Squad

Easy 1k points.
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should i order 1 or 2 defilers in china?
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>>97958827
If hiro, rapeape or whoever controls the money shows people the bank account and asks for money, people would give enough to them in a day.
The only reason 4chanpass is a failure is because it has a negative stigma to it.
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>>97958827
>Just an FYI, this thread was made by a severely mentally ill troll that mainly dwells on /m/ but is also known to pollute /a/, /x/, /v/ and /co/. He has had many mental breakdowns and has been banned from many forums such as TohoKingdom and ANN. He likes to make shit up about the moderation because he has been targeted time and time again by the /m/ jannies+mod because his shit posting style is so recognizable most /m/ users report him on sight.
Most of the replies before this thread was archived are him samefagging, and most of the ghost replies before he spammed this thread on /co/ are also him samefagging. Take this thread with a grain of salt and proceed with caution. He has had many names throughout the years but is mostly known as DuelGundam2099 or simply Duel.
what the fuck, this shit reads just like decalfag’s antics.
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>>97958827
>third hand infos
>about bankrupcy in 2028, which is 2 years from now.

Come again in Nov 2027, if this is still true by then.
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>>97958871
>what the fuck, this shit reads just like decalfag’s antics
someone actually brought up these similarities before, it's as if actual autist follow similar patterns
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>>97958871
I'm just sharing, didn't look like sanefagging to me. It would explain why Hiro never streams anymore.
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>>97958731
Since we are on the topic of 40K Youtubers.
Opinions on Live!From The Black Library?
Personnaly i Found him ok.
He does a bare minimum of humour
His voice does not make me wanna rip my ears out
He somehow managed to do something with minimal editing
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>>97958808
Is the same for me and goblinos/orks
Your best bet is to convert.
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>>97958794
>>97958795
Now I know this might cause trouble with a certain someone...but here goes
>Cimmerian Solar System of Planets
>located near the Halo Stars
>long neglected despite retaining a single Forgeworld called Polybius
>main administrative and recruitment world is Roanoke, a forest world with mostly freshwater continent sized lakes
>secret third planet, a tropical planet called Bermuda
>Mechanizied Regiments are named after the solar system rather than their homeworld of Roanoke
>armor patterns of infantry are distinctly Feudal World level in appearance
>yet the effectiveness is closer to void armor worn by Imperial Navy personnel
>use mainly blitzkrieg style tactics with Chimera transports and Sentinels
>strange reports have come in that aspirant level Astartes spotted wearing Cimmerian colours serving within Regiments
I'll continue with the more controversial lore.
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should I fomo into an armageddon box on ebay?
only $140...
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>>97958992
du eet
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>>97958591
That guy is such a shitlib faggot too but in the way where it bleeds into everything he does.

>>97958919
He is a jeet but hes pretty good background noise.

My own personal recommend is Lich's Laboratory. Dude does a good combo of like painting and lore stuff.
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>>97958992
Go for it bro. I'm not the seller.
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>>97958992
dew it
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>>97958827
I buy it, after the hack there's been migrations to altchans.
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>>97959001
>He is a jeet
yea, but I wouldn't know if he did not mention that. His accent is pretty good, plus Because of him I learned that some Hindus see Jesus as an aspect of Vishnu aperentally. Interesting.
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>>97958752
The fact that their noses aren't molded to the guns means they're swappable with a knife
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>>97958799
Kroot broke my heart. The new sculpts look good but they are all monopose. How the fuck can anyone justify spending $1500 on a 2k kroot army that is like 15 unique sculpts total? I miss the days of multipose miniatures
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>>97958992
Hold the line. They will come to your flgs soon inshallah
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>>97959018
Once you know it though you can kind of hear that like aziz ansari voice lol. But otherwise yeah hes pretty good
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>>97959034
Multipose is too complex for the nuGW playerbase. Unless you play AoS.
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>>97959059
if you're playing AoS then you have other problems (like remembering everyone's pronouns)
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>>97959018
Awooga
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After much thought, I came to conclusion that Word Bearers are kino.
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>>97958591
I'm partial to eonsofbasedttle myself
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>>97958964
Cont.
>the original colonists of Cimmeria are descendants of officers that served in The Conservatory Project
>officers that answered directly to Malcador the Sigillite
>all Cimmerian peoples are educated as early as adolescence with history of The Age of Strife, The Great Crusade, and most importantly The Emperor as a psyker not necessarily a god
>they are also trained to adhere to Imperial Truth doctrine whenever among other Imperium forces
>the Forgeworld Polybius also has quality-of-life improvements to major Imperial Navy ships, Militarum vehicles, lasguns, and even human sized Volkite armaments
>all from the records saved from The Conservatory Project
>the Forgeworld sells these technological augments to trust Rogue Trader dynasties
>Cimmerian Regiments also field such weaponry in small amounts to avoid suspicion
>at one point in the early history of Cimmeria's colonization within Bermuda was found a stockpile of various preserved organ implants.
>enough of which to facilitate production of Astartes neophytes
>Cimmerian historical theorists have debated for hundreds of years whether if the Alpha Legion or Red Corsairs created the organ implant stockpile for future use
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Do you paint your army with canon colors or do you not give a damn?
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>>97959111
Your posts here on the otherhand...
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So we're getting new boyz but not new nobz and meganobz??
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>>97958591
'Paul is bad at stuff' but he doesn't do lore videos as such, he does mostly videos on the game and has committed the cardinal sin of actually playing the game.
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>>97959128
always canon colors of /mydudes/
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>>97959120
So pretty cool?
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>>97959128
Canon colors? You men preexisting chapters/legions/regiments/etc?
Yeah, I think its fun to make them represent a faction you read about in the books. But that doesnt always mean box color.
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>>97957543
Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts. This month's theme was crucible character and/or "space wolves getting absolutely destroyed".
I'll try to post every thread but I'll also check the archive as usual. If you want to make it easier to find in the archive include "april collage submission" in the post.

Here is the vote for next month's theme:
https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4p3Ylga

Looking forward to seeing what you've cooked up this time!
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>>97959128
i paint them in My Dudes colors
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>>97959156
Have we had many entries so far?
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>>97959120
>>all Cimmerian peoples are educated as early as adolescence with history of The Age of Strife, The Great Crusade, and most importantly The Emperor as a psyker not necessarily a god
>>they are also trained to adhere to Imperial Truth doctrine whenever among other Imperium forces
How does this work? This type of localized heresy can only happen unchecked on isolated systems as administratum and admech people would eventually check up on it and see that there's something wrong. But if they are isolated, they would never really fight alongside other imperial forces.
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>>97959168
Yum
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>have that one nightlord omnibus in my backlog
>kinda apathetic to 40k ATM
>worried if I read it im either gonna wanna start a nightlord army again or question why I would read 40k shit again
Man this book is staring at me with schadenfreude.
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>>97959168
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>>97957891
what I would give to have designs like these in nu-csm scale.
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Asking a player his commander's name performs a similar function to the south african pencil test.
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>>97959194
Look into 30k.
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>>97959168
is she wearing armor or tights
this picture is confusing
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>>97959208
Yes
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>>97959206
Nothing like that outside a few decent resin character sculpts.
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>>97958919
Why are ppl so retarded that they watch some dork read lexicanum on camera?
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>>97958720
I post through multiple computers daily you retard.
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>>97959156
I've only got this marine I experimented on thus far. I've posted it before. Otherwise, my hobby bug has been asleep and I am finding it difficult to motivate myself
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I use raven guard faction rules when playing my alpha legion army
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>>97959205
>My commander's name? I'm surprised you don't already know it. He is Roboute Guilliman, Avenging Son, The Victorious, The Master of Ultramar, the Blade of Unity, Primarch and Son of the God Emperor of Mankind.
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>>97959239
That's a pretty fun idea, but I think it would be more interesting if it was more of a hybrid of imperial culture and native culture than full on ooga booga marine. Gimmicks are most interesting when they don't insist upon themselves.
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>>97959250
This would fall on the incorrect side of the pencil test.
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>>97959120
Sounds like heresy to me, how does Polybius keep other forge worlds from getting wind of their stuff? A data virus like the canon xenotech dabbling forgeworld?
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>don't enjoy 10th at all
>somehow getting hyped for 11th
I think I have a mental defect.
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>>97959282
if they actually bring back narrative play and it doesn't suck we might be in the best place in ages
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>>97959282
12th is going to be better, trust me
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>>97959282
It seems like an improvement, and at the very least, the tables will be much less ugly so photos of games will be more fun to take.
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>>97959236
God that's sad
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>>97959282
did you perhaps hit your head on something hard recently? 11th is going to be 10th but more deadly and more 'gotcha' moments from rules bloat.
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>>97959301
Are they changing terrain? I know they’re introducing objective terrain.
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>>97959282
>40kg would call you a fake grog nogames no models tourist secondary if you talked about how bad the L ruins terrain shit was
>40kg now praises 11th for changing this up
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>>97959166
Probably the most out of any collage thus far
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>>97959321
removing circle objects, which are ugly as hell
big buff to non-L terrain, which means a table that isn't an L maze can be played on without all the hyper lethal weaponry resulting in a turn two tabling.
Objective area terrain, which means terrain that isn't Ls will need to be fought over.
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>>97959292
>if they actually bring back narrative play and it doesn't suck we might be in the best place in ages
I 100% don't believe that's anything but a marketing strategy. The objective matrix is just another thing that will be solved and min maxed in 2 weeks.

>>97959301
Yeah getting rid of the objective circles is great. Shame the rest of the game I just don't really like.

>>97959318
I think you're mostly right unfortunately. I am finding it hard to not get swept up in the hype. But I am not buying anything new so at least I am holding there.
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>>97958687
Fuck off, nazi
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>>97959343
There are no Nazi here scumbag
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>>97959156
Finished my entry, but I'll post it later when I get some better light so the picture turns out better.
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>>97959348
How about people that put nazi decals on their minis? Nazi calling someone else a scumbag... what a joke
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>>97959333
I thought the point of terrain was to obstruct stuff that can shoot you off the table? Frankly I’d care more for an edition that introduced bigger table than anything else. It’s an issue that’s been present even in earlier editions.
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>>97959368
They were removed already but you knew that and are just trying to stir up trouble for attention as per usual.
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>>97959371
well shooting is getting a nerf and cover a buff so supposedly it should take care of that
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>>97959371
The true point of terrain is so your minis have somewhere cool to battle
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>>97959376
They were removed from your models but not from your black heart.
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>>97959376
I only recently found out it was a thing. Removing them becuase you got caught doesn't absolve you, you fucking nazi
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>>97959389
>>97959391
Proof was never posted
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If you could name one Warhammer 40k superhero character with a model who hasn’t had a novel or been the protagonist of one, which character would you choose to star in a novel, and which good author would you pick to write it?
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>>97959391
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>>97959156
I did already in the last thread. With that Flesh eater standing over Space Wolf.
I am now getting ready for the next month thread with my Tau commander >>97958356
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>>97959156
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>>97959171
>>97959267
Rogue Trader dynasties loyal to Cimmeria for generations due to benefits of having better-than-standard technology on-demanr keep the Forgeworld's existence a secret. Only the records of The Conservatory Project contain the exact coordinates. The Cimmerian Regiments respond to calls for aid the wider Imperium cannot afford to send forces towards. If a planet is saved by Cimmerians than an Embassy is placed on that world to slowly secretly siphon overlooked youths from the population to bolster the numbers of Cimmerian Naval Ships and ground forces. Internally Cimmerian Guardsmen are called Neo Auxilia in homage to Solar Auxilia from the Golden Age. The aim of Cimmeria is to amass enough manpower and resources to survive either the Imperium falling or breaking out into civil.
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Plugging away at my knight for the collage, but dont think I'll finish in time, getting too lost in having fun with all the little details and not putting in the hours I'd have to. I'll just submit the space wolf trophies he carries specifically if not, and roll him into "big guys" or "do your best" because he would fit either.
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>>97959433
Elfag trash, chunky paint and grossly inappropriate SW targeting.
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>>97959128
Weird spot where it's the canon colors that nobody uses
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>>97959331
Shitting on L shaped terrain was the least controversial opinion in /40kg/ through the entirety of 10th. The shitposters must have gotten to you.
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>>97959456
you would know all about chunky paint with your dogshit paintjobs wouldn't you ban-evader
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>>97959419
If you could name one Warhammer 40k character with a model who hasn’t had a novel or been the protagonist of one, which character would you choose to star in a novel, and which good author would you pick to write it?
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>>97959331
you're confusing 40kg for threads in /tg/ where a troll posts an image of ugly 10th game and summons retarded white knights
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>>97959419
Why JOHN GRAMMATICUS by DAN ABNETT of course!
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>>97959456
If the collage gets like 40 people posting your SW getting rekt will you finally realize that everyone here hates you and finally leave?
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>>97959419
The order should be novel to special character model, not the other way around.
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>>97959128
some are canon and some are /mydudes/
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>>97959476
That will literally never fucking happen.
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>>97959486
yeah we know you have nowhere else to go
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>>97959457
>infil-traitor

that's like something an old black guy would say while trying to make a point and just sounding retarded
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>>97959477
Does Ciaphas Cain and Jurgen have official models to play in the game?
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>>97959486
But if it did would you leave? It would prove that you have no peers or peeps here
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>>97959419
my man Haarken Worldclaimer
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>>97959488
Least I have models, play games and contribute to the thread unlike your unproductive ass.
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>>97959504
the only true statement here is that you own models
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>>97959504
The whole collage is people who have models and are contributing to the thread :)
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>>97959504
You only do one of those and it's not playing or contributing, let's see if you can figure it out
You don't even paint
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>>97959498
It's sad we would probably be good friends and battle buds if we got to know each other but instead you rely on fabrications and stories about me from the internet.
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>>97959512
I'd never be friends with you. Sorry. I've been here since the beginning and seen all the shit you've done. You kind of disgust me.
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>>97959521
Okay then for the future lets not converse with one another at any level.
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>>97959532
Post with a trip so I can avoid it.
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>>97959504
post 'em
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>>97959512
I tried to be on your side in the beginning when you posted your shitty dread with the sword just slapped into the hand with zero though of posing or even trying to make the fingers look like they were holding the handle and you told me to kill myself for defending you
Blow your brains out decalpedo, nobody will miss you when the light dims in your beady little eyes
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>>97959532
Or you could just leave this general that unanimously hates you
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>>97959457
Would love to see more people paint AL green — or really anything that isn't 30k metallic teal.
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>>97959468
Novel about Maugan Ra, by mike brooks
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>>97959543
>>97959539
Truly amazing the venom you can spew without feeling an ounce of remorse, I don't watch anime but one of my brothers was trying to show me this show with an elf girl who kills demons and you people behave exactly like the demons in the show.
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>>97959549
I'm planning to do a small group of alpha legion mercs that have fallen in with my renegade chapter in green with cloaks. I'll probably use them as raiders.
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>>97959549
Thanks doc
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>>97959495
Rent free
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>>97959552
This is the funniest post I have ever read.
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>>97959552
You are a malignant tumor
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>>97959568
shut the fuck up already asshole
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>>97959569
Tumor.
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>>97959569
stop ban evading, pedophile
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>>97959456
cry me a fenris
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>>97959552
And you act like this one guy I went to high school with. Severely autistic. Didn't get enough air at birth. Exact same pattern of behavior and speech pattern. I hope you can find a place you belong elsewhere. Maybe reddit?
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>>97959552
My sides. In orbit.
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>>97959139
Yeah I like Paula videos, he's mostly just fucking around and having a good time with the hobby.
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>>97959587
>>97959567
How is acting like a demon amusing in any way?
>>97959583
Sounds like you're describing your own experience as a mentally defunct loser in school.
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>Big Dudes winning the poll
Aghh... but we just did Big Stick last month...
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Are there any army archetypes that are kind of a dick move to bring to casual games?
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>>97959552
Nigga what are you talking abaut?
Are you an elaborate troll? /tg/ mods attempt to increase traffi? an actual retard?
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>>97959561
what
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>>97959599
Many skew lists
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>>97959599
any kind of extreme skew without notice
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>>97959601
You don't have any models, kill yourself.
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>>97959597
>No u
Bruh c'mon now
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>>97959120
>know about the emperor's nature
>not adhering to the imperial faith
>speshul weapons production
>speshul quality of life
>speshul proprietary marines
man, you're not helping the image of fanfiction writers with those snowflakes
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>>97959552
Hi nazi
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>>97959120
cringe
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10 Infernus Marines+Lieutennant
Firestorm Assault Force: Burning vengeance+Overwatch
Lieutennant for when transport dies and falling back to fire on them again.

Is this a thing? How do I improve it without changing from FirestormAF?
>the other two infernus squads will be in drop pods
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>>97959468
Novel about Aurelia Malys, by mike brooks
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>>97959663
Forgot to add the Repulsor**
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>Decide to use Citadel Glue for parts to stay on that won't stay on normally
>Forgot its extremely sticky
>Finger prints all over the leg and other glue shit
Rip leg
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>>97959597
This is so sad.

Anyways what kind of unit updates do real game players want? Personally I would like to see:
>Lootas without spanners
>burna boyz without spanners
I like the units but I dont like having to take the spanner. Plus I kitbased them all into other models in 8th when we weren't forced to take them
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>>97959671
Damn I hate when shit like that happens, maybe try and use a nail filer when it dries and file it down?
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>>97959690
I use a blade and lightly scrape at it along the flattest path so it doesn't change topography of the models look. I treat it like flashing. It's not that different. You could just add thin layers of paint until its flat again at the priming stage.
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>>97959671
Super gluenor plastic glue
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>>97959633
>fanfiction writers
They're 95% degenerates writing gay Primarch smut, Dark Eldar sexual torture, mass Tyranid rape, and weeb-tier self insert bullshit. Fuck 40k fanfic writers.
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>>97959666
Repulsor doesn’t have firing deck. I strongly reccomend a chaplain instead of LT for the Infernus brick.
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>>97959701
NTA but what about a coat of varnish?
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>>97959666
>>97959663
Realized I made this confusing. Firestorm assault force:
So I use a Repulsor(with a jump-back-in mechanic when a the passengers are being charged) to protect my infernus marines.
With firestorm I have a hop-out strategem and shoot them thing. Then when charged, they can fire overwatch. With the lieutennant, they can retreat and fire again, and maybe finish with a final overwatch if needed.

Cool combo or am I overthinking the Repulsor+Infernus marines?
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>>97959734
that makes the ripples finer but theres nothing flat and you just made it denser to get rid of

just scrape it off, and go slow
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>>97959633
>The vast majority of Astartes are fully aware that the Emperor is not a god, but see him as the pinnacle of humanity made manifest
>a handful of planets in some backwater solar system with (1) Forgeworld that can't even make complete Naval Ships nor Titans believes the same
>relies entirely on Rogue Traders for resources
>ugh snowflakes
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>>97957691
You playing CSM or Death Guard? If you ever get the chance, buy another 3 set of those guys, and two beasts of nurgle, and you got a pretty fine scouting retinue for midboard deployment.
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The Avatar of Khaine is the coolest model in 40k, prove me wrong
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>>97959770
He's a generic fantasy angry fire god. No sci fi elements at all in his design. He's lame.
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>>97959770
>prove me wrong
Abaddon is way cooler dude
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>>97959770
looks pretty hot to me
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>>97959770
pretty clearly hot
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>>97957761
I wish they'd bring back the old style of flying couch. I liked the statement of it, that the marines are already sealed in and their own armor was enough for a light vehicle, they didn't need to be surrounded in another layer of armor.
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>>97959788
>>97959789
Fire so cool that it burns
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>>97959782
good thing 40k is sci-fantasy then
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>>97959732
My idea is a retreating firewall abusing lieutennants and having them be my 'powerfist sergeants' since they amount to about 30 points or more when you do the math about the units. Should I rather go with a Judicar for first strikes instead?
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>>97959770
Have you seen the void dragon?
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>>97958760
You are entirely correct, but if we follow that logic there is also the "biggest Marines" factions. And they're made of gold!!!!

ofc they're slightly less gay now that they are taller and less power armlet chungus-y
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>>97959791
>that the marines are already sealed in and their own armor was enough for a light vehicle, they didn't need to be surrounded in another layer of armor
>Heretic Guard fire plasma gun volley or a lascannon gets a lucky shot
>instead of the chassis taking the brunt of the damage and the thing crashes with potential survivors the two marines just eat shit and die instantly
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>>97959803
And my point is Khaine as a design is all fantasy, not sci-fantasy.
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>>97959791
?
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>>97959811
If he can hit them though. Toughness shouldn't only represent armor plating, but also evasiveness, unless they want to add a separate stat for that.
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>>97959820
>Ork Mekboy's mouth starts watering uncontrollably...
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Who is polluting this thread to such level
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>>97959828
People are discussing models and flyers, what's ur problem?
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>>97959828
ESL
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>>97958118
It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods and master of a million worlds by the might of His inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the vast Imperium of Man for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that He may never truly die.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
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>>97959828
I am. I’ve been samefagging for the past few hours.
my bad.
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>>97959770
This dude is suffering in 40k lore because he is a better father to eldars than ze emprah is to humans and primarchs
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>>97959848
Such is the life of a nomodels schizo
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>>97959824
>evasiveness
The thing a has no side thrusters. Leading the shot is easy enough and blam, Muh-reens bite it. Dead. With a full chassis it becomes harder to hit the pilot, who as you can see is covered by a front plate. The gunner is partially blocked by his mounted heavy bolter.
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>>97959805
Judiciar is best with bladeguard parked near a unit you expect to get charged so you can abuse heroic intervention and fights first. Chaplain or Libby is best for infernus. The big thing with the chaplain is that after your transport gets blown up you can unbattleshock the squad when they emergency disembark. The judiciar is also good with assault intercessors to fish for dev wounds but Bg are best.
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>>97959770
Khorne>Khaine
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How do I get better at thinning paints and brush control?
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>>97959890
Practice?
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>>97959842
>Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding
Cawl and Roboute Guilliman, Avenging Son, The Victorious, The Master of Ultramar, the Blade of Unity, Primarch and Son of the God Emperor of Mankind are fucking up this part into nearly being non-canon unless you're an an Eldar.
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>>97959890
The more you paint the easier it gets in my experience.
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>>97959897
>Yvraine and her death cult was handled so badly by James Workshop the majority fandom that were on the fence about becoming Eldar army builders gave up and simply ship her as Roboute Guilliman's exotic cocksleeve.
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>>97959764
Nta I just got the aos spearhead with 2 nurgling and 1 beast in it for my death guard. I felt like it was a good deal for me. Bonus cultists bodies for kitbashing
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>>97959890
I use a airbrush flow improver to make paint behave better. Making yellow flatten out, or making another testy paint I want the color, but it consists of pigment clumping to layer flatter and consistent.

It's a cheat code. When it dries though test the paint to see if it chips in case you live in florida and the air moisture fucked with it.
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Question on transports; if they can hold the models could I have multiple different units inside the same transport?
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>>97959770
And yet you do not own him. Curious.
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>>97959759
yes, snowflakes, the imperium has powerful and aggressive institutions on enforcing the imperial faith, on monopolizing and hoarding technology, and on keeping the number and spread of marines strictly under control.

your system couldn't paint a bigger target on itself if it didn't pay any of the 3 tithes or used artificial intelligence.
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>>97959905
Yvraine is the biggest fiasco of the Eldar timeline. From what could have been a new eldar faction to a fucking and horrible soup.

Fuck James.
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>>97959896
rumors say they're gonna start taking steps to soft retcon this in 11th by having the addendum that marines don't know how to properly maintain and/or lack the resources to maintain cawl's designs, hence the launch box marines having bits of firstborn armor mixed in. apparently this will extend to the new 40k mars pattern rhino and land raider kits - primaris marines using those designs more because the grav tech on other primaris tanks is too fiddly for anyone besides cawl to maintain in the long term.
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>>97959934
give me a primaris rhino ffs
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>>97959921
Yes
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Lore-wise, what faction is the most ultimately doomed? Imperium, Eldar, what?
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>>97959944
you gotta go to warhammer world for that
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>>97959932
Can't say I blame them there because the Eldar are at best a secondary faction bordering on tertiary.
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>>97959945
So maybe I can run a techmarine as a side unit with the infernus marines, so I can keep the darn repulsor alive after its been shot up a bit.
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>>97959952
the eldar have built 3 more or less stable ways to survive after their apocalypse

the imperium is racing towards its apocalypse with no parachute or plan B
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>>97959959
>secondary faction
>close to tertiary
>most popular xenos
>4 different flavors
>most collected xenos
????????????????
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>>97959934
999.M41
>hey, it's me cawl, here's these badass grav tanks built on heavily modified existing rhino and land raider chassis, alongside a new land speeder chassis, new modular armor, new weapons with special scopes, you know, the works
>Thanks, Cawl! We really needed these because THE FUCKING EYE OF TERROR JUST SPREAD ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPAN OF GALAXY.

013.M42
>hey so repulsor #1827227's antigrav engine just fucked up again, we need to replace it
>we're out of spare engines
>what
>it's using fucking RELIC TECHNOLOGIES BROTHER THE FORGE WORLD THAT MADE THE PARTS WE NEED TO MAKE MORE OF THESE THINGS GOT LOOTED BY ORKS IN M39
>fuck! bring out the mothballed firstborn vehicles!!

fucking kek
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>>97959925
Rogue Trader dynasties spit in the face of these powerful and aggressive institutions. As do the Navigator Guilds. The Imperium is run by several different organizations constantly stepping on each other's toes. One backwater solar system could be a kept secret by Rogue Traders easily. Entire solar systems fall to Chaos, join the Tau, get taken over by Genestealer Cults every few years and The Imperium barely reacts in time.
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>>97959972
Lore wise you simian
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>>97959952
Chaos is the ultimate winner of 40kbowl by attrition or by force the big 4 will end with the galaxy, so every faction in the end is doomed.
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>>97959972
>most popular xenos
that's necrons and tyranids
>>97959975
stop ban evading
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>>97959975
they used to be more popular, it's a cycle
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>>97959975
>lore wise
nobody gives a fuck about that lmao
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>>97959973
>also i need you to fix my bolt rifle's cawl pattern scope, it bluescreened again.
>it's bricked, brother
>FUCK, just remove it then

pic related
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>>97959983
seriously someone believes necrons and bugs are more popular than eldars?
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>>97959982
orks, chaos, necrons, or tyranids could have that title depending intentionally vague galactic power scaling.
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>>97959975
>lore wise
you should eat a dick. lore wise.
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>>97959982
Gork and Mork say 'ello, kaoz boys
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>>97959770
Reminder in the most recent BL book which involved him (An Ork one, cannot remember the name) the living embodiment of an ancient god is defeated by a third rate warboss and a bunch of his lads.
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>>97959998
Necrons a few editions ago had a vomit of sales on starter box sets. Current nid players have cheap as fuck sold separately units froms tarter sets that if you puchase one, its 11 dollars a unit for 8 units. Sell the rest you don't need.
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>>97960003
>>97960011
NPCs please know your place...
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>>97959974
>Rogue Trader dynasties spit in the face of these powerful and aggressive institutions
no, they don't, they are just allowed to stay in their specific lane, planets management isn't their lane, the imperium isn't known for its laxity when it comes to tech, faith, geneseed and tithes, those are the few things the imperium leaves no room for

>Entire solar systems fall to Chaos, join the Tau, get taken over by Genestealer Cults every few years and The Imperium barely reacts in time.
this cope answer only works if it means you're writing your system as something the imperium will mercilessly fuck over as soon as someone takes notice of them
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>>97960019
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>>97959975
Go away, you don't belong, decalfaggot.
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>>97960019
Iv by ehn-pee-see yuz means Nob Power Crumpers Imz roit dere wiff youz.
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>>97958068
Hey, that's not fair. You should be ashamed of yourself for comparing a grot to the IDF.

When grotznik claimed that he was owed that fried squid leg 3000 teef ago, it genuine was his but the boss happened to a be a bit peckish and passed by.
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>>97957623
it's cool because GW is gonna update all the old models they squatted and you can rebuy your old army in truescale.
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>>97960019
the whole point of the setting is that the imperium is raging against the dying of the light with 4 major galactic level threats shitting all over it anon.
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>>97960029
Stop repeating this phrase every fucking day you god damn lunatic
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>>97958530
Because he only gives a shit about key dangling primarchs.
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>>97960019
>hates on eldar every chance he gets
>admits he wants to fuck an eldar female
You're an unironic permavirgin incel aren't you?
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>>97960038
if you belonged, it wouldn't be so easy to reply to your posts, retard nigga.
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>>97960038
So you're allowed to repeat phrases, posts, pics but nobody else is?
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>>97959982
>Chaos dooms the galaxy
>Tyranids just shurgs and moves on to another galaxy.
Sure is nice to be an extragalactic invader.
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>>97957603
Did they really have the
>flaws in raven guard and blood angel geneseed were edited out too
Shit? I know they did that for the canine helix so space wolves can be transplaneted to yiff on other worlds. How did cawl know about chapter secrets.
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>>97960038
I wouldn't need to say it if you fucked off never to return or if you learned to fit in, but you're too dumb to do the latter, so your only option is to go away, because you'll never belong, and nobody wants you.
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>>97960045
Only a faggot wouldn't fuck a hot elf but their lore is absolutely pathetic, I think you'd agree.
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>new mini of the money is a Yaegir
Wasn't this the mini of the month in 2023? They're just reusing olld ones now aren't they.

>>97957557
>>97957560
ferrus manus
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>>97960037
Hie can someone say this wetting has any sort of Noblebright/Hope core when the Imperium is just choosing between so many sad ends?
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>>97957658
what's funnier is that you'll be able to get them on ebay for like 15 bucks, even 4 years from now.
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>>97960048
It's intentionally ambiguous how much the milky way matters to the nids. This could only be galaxy number 2 after their birth galaxy and it's a do or die thing for them, having expended all their resources on the neccesary transit from their now barren home galaxy to the source of the astronomicon.
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>>97960048
Keep telling yourself that, bug, you will be annhilated like Imperium fags too.
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>>97960048
im so sad the max I can run a single deity battle line unit is 10 models x 6, where in the old days you could run blocks of 20
>tzeentch might count, as blue and pink horrors can amount to 120
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>>97960059
Didn't you watch Bambi as a kid you piece of shit?
>>97960059
Clarification, a hot Elf "chick" to be specific.
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>Tyranids won 285 player tournament
>All because Magnus failed his re-roll
I didn't know Tyranids were a meta army
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>>97959934
>new primaris rhino land raider

It's gonna be a TRUE SCALE PRIMARIS land raider with lascannons the size of fucking marines that are actually VOLCANO CANNONS and a TRUE SCALE PRIMARIS rhino with a storm bolter that's actually a SUPER PSYCHO DAKKA TWIN LINKED HEAVY BOLT CANNON ARRAY

pic related
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>>97957576
but the thing is that with the First Founding releases, the First Founding chapters each got a specific detachment like the special boy chapters.
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>>97960023
>if it means you're writing your system as something the imperium will mercilessly fuck over as soon as someone takes notice of them
If the Tau can exist in that same way, so can "my dudes" then. Also here's what Rogue Trader dynasties are capable of canonically:
>Rogue Traders are empowered with the authority to travel freely within the Imperium and beyond, this allows them to interact with cultures for which contact with is normally forbidden, be they non-Imperial human worlds or Xenos-controlled planets. Not only that, but Rogue Traders are granted the permission and freedom to deal with these cultures as they see fit, so long as it is in the interests of the Imperium.
>be they non-Imperial human worlds or Xenos-controlled planets
>non-Imperial human worlds
>Rogue Traders are granted the permission and freedom to deal with these cultures as they see fit, so long as it is in the interests of the Imperium
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>>97960062
because noble bright is an aesthetic and a mood, not a result of factual end points, or your life is le epic grim dark because you have to choose between heart disease, cancer, or liver failure.
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>>97960070
Meant for>>97960058
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>>97959982
>the big 4 will end with the galaxy
not how it works
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>>97957637
it's been 10 years
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>>97960083
Abbadon can't even handle spergs like Perty-boi imagine trying to deal with the Omniscient and Omnipotent Chaos gods lmao.
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>>97960083
correct, AoS archaon will actually appear, destroy the 40k galaxy for the big 4, and then fuck off back to AoS because 40k is a side quest for him.
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>>97960089
and will be 10 more of laughs until they erase every single primaris shit.
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>>97960096
He will also RAPE abaddon.
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>>97960083
Archaon>Abaddon
The dude is on the way of winning TWO FUCKING TIMES already. Abbadon is a loser.
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>popularity this
>popularity that
sadly beyond space marines having the biggest share of that pie it doesn't really fucking matter, although sellability of nids intreagues me because most monsters do look mid and i heard more "it looks cute" over reading "i want to get fucked by it" online and surely that can't be the deciding factor right
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>>97959960
Yes, but you have to disembark the techmarine to use its abilities
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>>97960113
>intreagues
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>>97960113
>"i want to get fucked by it"
what the fuck?
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Pretty meh on the box set. I dont want mono pose marines for my crimson fists I definately don't NEED the orks. Do want the rule book and cards though. Lord knows they won't make enough mission cards outside the launch box.

>>97960038
This is sad.
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PRIMARIS ARE KING
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>>97960113
Keep talking about Primaris, marinefag.
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>>97960114
Yeah it would let me put it behind the transport away from the unit fighting at the front so he has breathing room for his lone operative thing. The transport could just protect the guys and I could just go with a single techmarine as a warlord to make room for the 180pt model.
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>>97960121
of homesexuality?
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>>97960083
Archaon model is ridiculous...
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>>97960077
>If the Tau can exist in that same way
No, the tau exist because the imperium is too occupied on too many fronts to deal with them with the necessary shift of significant troops, they're a deeply entrenched empire of hundreds of worlds, your dudes are one system that would get crushed by a passing force.

rogue traders are not free to govern worlds without said worlds being under the scrutiny of the admech, church and tithes of equipment, troops and psykers, and no rogue trader, or other authority, would be allowed to raise marines on their own

your homebrew is just wrong
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>>97960072
To be frank, you know nothing.
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>>97960062
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>>97960121
Primaris are not used when they make CGI bolter marines. Its a shame they cannot shake.
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>>97960113
>x this x that
Is this a new talking point meme lately?
Also every primaris vs firstborn argument is proof the primaris should have just been faithful to detailing upscaled firstborn marines.
You all have my permission to be in denial of how right I am.
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>>97960117
stop ban evading
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>>97960145
>Primaris are not used
Yes they are
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>>97960155
i have no stone to throw in firstborne vs primaris debate since i own neither and im not collecting chaos either
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>>97960155
All Primaris look Kino but only some firstborn do.
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>>97960164
>does not own SM or CSM
sounds like you have no stone to throw in any 40k discussion
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>>97960155
>should have just been faithful to detailing upscaled firstborn marines.
wouldn't have sold as well
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>>97960164
>npc
ok, chud.
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>>97960173
/hhg/ is two blocks down, faggot
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>>97960173
and thats why my rant was that disussing most popular xeno faction is futile
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>>97960170
Half the primaris line looks like poo poo thoughbeit
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>>97959890
At thinning paints, you want to water them down till they lose cohesion like a glaze, and then add paint back to the mixture, until you just start to get elasticity back and it pulls itself together into little strands like the bottom of this image. That's the best thinned consistency for a base coat layer.
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>>97960060
Supposedly they're just cycling through em again because they're replacing/reworking the whole system in a couple months
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>>97960073
Don't forget several stories tall with view ports big enough for space marines to crawl through.
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>>97958919
watched one video where he injected a bunch of obviously bad/wrong takes in the first 30 seconds. hes a wiki regurgitator, you should just read one of the two 40k wikis instead of wasting your time with this faggot.
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>>97960211
it would both be incredibly hilarious and probably extremely profitable if gw sold a truescale land raider bigger than a fucking baneblade that makes the Spartan look like a clown car
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>>97960137
Did you just ignore the canon lore I dropped about Rogue Traders? Here it is is again, retard.
>Rogue Traders are empowered with the authority to travel freely within the Imperium and beyond, this allows them to interact with cultures for which contact with is normally forbidden, be they non-Imperial human worlds or Xenos-controlled planets. Not only that, but Rogue Traders are granted the permission and freedom to deal with these cultures as they see fit, so long as it is in the interests of the Imperium.
>be they non-Imperial human worlds or Xenos-controlled planets
>non-Imperial human worlds
>Rogue Traders are granted the permission and freedom to deal with these cultures as they see fit, so long as it is in the interests of the Imperium



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