Archives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>97967622
>>97979565https://www.palaceofnero.com/misc/myladymyliege.html
>>97979565>Background:Inheritance>Location:Karfor>First Priority:Philosophy>Fiefdom:Personal Luxuries: Castle Conversion, Blade of the ProphetTown Enhancements: Great Temple, Market Square 1, Communal Granary, Communal Library, Wellsprings of Life, Fruits and Berries, Guild Hall x2 (Merchant, University), Order of Monastics, Order of Knights, Stone Wall, Guard Posts, Large Soldier Barracks>Special Combinations:Respected University, Holy Warrior Haven, Culinary College, Fortress Town>Religious Dedication:The Ascendency>Laws and Edicts:Military Conscription, Martial Training, Arms for All, Piety>Friends and Consuls:Ferenwe Najir, Qiuesha Kheskwei, Pavishta Pinuath, Lady Mira>Faction Allegiances:Commerce Guild Consuls, Cloud Scribe Order, Korvarian Cult of the Ascendency>Successor:Chosen Heir
OC from last thread by hyenanonCompressed to be postable, uncompressed is here: https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bo2w6my5
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>>97980089Ohthen it's ok. I forgive you, anon.
Can anyone recommend a CYOA similar to A Life Chronicle, Time of Trouble, Gullhaven, Docklands, or Homestead (jayemouse) that isn’t centered on carnal lust? I want a story with meaningful choices and a solid narrative. Erotic elements are fine, but superficial horniness isn’t my focus.There was some confusion in the previous thread when I asked, though I don’t see why. At least one person offered a suggestion, which I sincerely appreciate.
>>97980096The Long Summer, Instant, Plus One, Memory BankThrough perhaps hundreds, thousands, millions years or even more, I will become a godlike being, whether through genetic manipulation, technological advancement, or something else, in the Long Summer. If one day I conclude that it is an inescapable cage, I will return with my top subordinate to reach new heights.
>>97980014I alt tabbed halfway. Sorry
>>97980213Pretty sure gullhaven was inspired by DSA's village.
>>97980213>that isn’t centered on carnal lust?What's the point?
>>97980213https://palaceofnero.com/misc/nofuture.html
>>97980213I like pic related
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>>97980213>Can anyone recommend a CYOA similar to A Life Chronicle, Time of Trouble, Gullhaven, Docklands, or Homestead (jayemouse) that isn’t centered on carnal lust? I want a story with meaningful choices and a solid narrative. Erotic elements are fine, but superficial horniness isn’t my focus.I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for, as some of those I don't consider particularly narrative-focused.If you mean ones that actually progress through a timeline, check out:*Eternal Rising by EternalAnon*Paranormal Debt Collector (and maybe Honor Among Thieves) by NxtubMaybe Second Contact, which is very fetishy, but has a suprisongly fleshed out take on what an alien conquest of Earth would look like across the years. Or maybe some of the magic school ones, which have different events happen each year.Honorable mentions to Royal Revival (by Beri), Abducted by the Outer Worlds (Liminal),and Space Opera Refugee. Not necessarily true progression, but there are time skips/multiple rounds of decision making.
>>97979746>Legends Grievous could totally kill 6 Jedi Masters easily broMy biggest gripe with this CYOA. It fucking horseshit. He's not even on par with Count Dooku.
>>97980810No, in the cyoa he mets you and gets strongerYou have aura like that
>>97980810Watch the Tartakovsky clone wars you fucking idiot it's literally his first onscreen appearance.>he's not even on par with the best duelist in the erawow what a shocker
anyone have the name of the cyoa where you get pulled into a sci fi space universe because they were messing with the clone/doll factory of some ancient maker alien/ai or something
>>97980877You take one moment out of context and massively hype it up. The Jedi he beat we're WOUNDED AND EXHAUSTED after being ambushed by overwhelming forces. He didn't even kill one Jedi Master either. Just some Padawan and a Jedi Knight. >he's not even on par with the best duelist in the era>wow what a shockerMy point was that even Count Dooku would have trouble fighting 6 Jedi Masters. Are you autistic or something?
>>97980987>are you autistic or something?>now please listen to my ted talk about star wars power levels
>>97980997Wow, a whole short sentence. Very autistic.
>>97980987Quick, cope about him beating the shit out of jedi on Coruscant also.
It's like the Elder Scrolls Redguards being the strongest race by far all over again. Just because of one gameplay mechanic from the most busted Elder Scrolls game.
>>97981059Hyenanon was gone for so long I was wondering if anyone would still be mindbroken over this. Good to know Tok always lives up to expectations.
>>97981059>he thinks redguards are stronger than other races just because they areStay mad eternally
>>97981095>he thinks redguards are stronger than other races just because they areWhat?
I'm also mad that the Nord's entire history and civilization got completely erased.
>>97981119>OrcsGo rebuild Orsinium or something
>>97981108>ShamikoHuh?What?HUH?Is this refering to the altchan where everyone can see you typing?
>>97979746Hyenanon didn't label his CYOA as OC on reddit. It's really hard for players to notice your new CYOA without the OC tag.
>>97981153That's reddit though, few humans use it anyway?
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>>97981160Well, it's one of the few places to get CYOAs from. If reddit had no CYOAs, I wouldn't go there at all.
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I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm fat. Like REALLY fucking fat. And that I think it would be REALLY funny if we all got isekai'd together in a dangerous setting without any perks or whatever.
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>>97981153ok? We're not on reddit so who cares???
>>97981375OC needs attention. OC not getting attention is sad.
>>97979565Background:>Dice GameLocation:>East AvosniaFirst Priority:>PhilosophyPersonal Luxuries:>Castle Conversion>East Wing Expansion>Basement Expansion>Attack DogsTown Enhancements:>Wellsprings of Life>Communal Storehouse>Communal Workshop>Communal Granary>Battleforge>Town Hall>Stone Wall>Market Square 1>Seedy Back Alleys>Fear Tactics>Guard Posts>Country Landmarks>Fruits and Berries>Gardens and WalkwaysGreat Threats:>Major Unrest>The PretenderLaws and Edicts:>Right to Roam>Equal Justice>Community Service>Martial Training>Minutemen Militia>Arms for All>Weights and MeasuresFriends and Consuls:>Darin Gulaeon>Ferenwe Najir>Goro the AntusianSuccessor:>CompetitionNever seen this before; it has to be one of the best kingdom builders I have ever played. It's less about the content (although that is great) and more about the format. multimedia CYOAs are the future
>>97981340I'm sure you're not REALLY fucking fat. I'm 250 lbs and easy in the top 1% for weight here.
>>97979746Why does he always use the absolute worst-looking art imaginable for his CYOAs?
>>97981419No, the art was decentIt evokes the Ideas I assume it meant to evoke
>>97981406>I'm sure you're not REALLY fucking fatYou underestimate my power!
>>97981419You should be thrown in a fucking woodchipper feet first for saying the Night City sourcebook cover looks bad.
post danmacheese
>>97981419Please post more of your gooner animu modded skyrim game as examples of "art" that should be used.
>>97981340I'm actually quite tall and have a large penis. Things were fairly good with my genetics
>>97981162It has been a while since I made a build for conduit.>starting points: 25>scrying (24)>calling (23)>guide (22)>bridge finding (21)>Gateway (19)>sands of time (18)>>97981163>tongues (17)>authority (15)>human facade (13)>navigation (12)>sixth sense (11)>cloak of shadow (10)>>97981186>deffered obligations x1 (9)>heart of gold (8)>heart of stone (7)>heart of darkness (5)>silver tongue (3)>pipes of pan (2)>stains on the ground (0)Cult leader build. I use my mind influencing abilities to gain followers in an alternate timeline where conduits are not widely known about.
>>97981389maybe if oc was good, oc would get attention
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>>97981513>Spelt Thief wrong
>>97979565Background:>InheritanceLocation:>Isle NashirFirst Priority:>GovernancePersonal Luxuries:>Haregor's Map>Hunting Lodge>West Wing Expansion>East Wing Expansion>Great Hall Expansion>The Very Finest FoodTown Enhancements:>Xhakhoran Architecture>Communal Granary>Market Square I>Market Square II>Amphitheater>Colosseum>Guild Hall (Shipwrights)>Order of Monastics (Tashirel)>Order of Knights x2 (Land, Sea)Special Combinations:>The Great GamesReligious Dedication:>The AscendencyLaws and Edicts:>Brutal Punishments (Arena Combat)>Trial by Combat>Weights and Measures>Military Conscription>Minutemen Militia>Martial Training>Martial MobilityFriends and Consuls:>Lord Daniva>Ramish of Jedna>Airdane Yezralla>IbetzeSuccessor:>Chosen Heir
>>97981513the witchy spellcaster is called the crusader?
>>97979746IC 8TA 9MP 6VA 6PP 8DR 11GU 11CA 7RW 10CR 0AL -8>Government: Plutocratic>Location: Core>Special: Ecumenopolis>Ally: Manaan, Inner Rim>Ally: Mrisst, Colonies>Ally: Corushal, Core>Ally: Ithor, Mid Rim>Ally: Fondor, Colonies>Ally: Abregadoe-Rae, Core>Ally: Onderon, Inner Rim>Event: Condemn the Trade Federation>Decision: Contract the ExplorCorps>Decision: Seek Local Allies>Decision: Activate the System Defense Force>Decision: Economic Relief>Event: Terror Attacks!>Event: Gun Rush>Decision: Construct Shipyards>Decision: Increase Industrial Independence>Decision: Galactic Peace Line>Republic (Push Manaan)>Decision: Construct an Armada>Event: Refugees>Event: Civil War Squared>Event: Can Only Mean One Thing>Decision: Assist the War>Decision: Continue Military Buildup>Decision: Aid for the Displaced>Decision: Landgrab>Event: A Thousand Terrible Things>Decision: Reorganize Logistics>Decision: Unveil Capital Ships>Decision: Maintain Industry>Decision: Patrol Lanes>Event: Aid Arrives>Event: Uh Oh...>Decision: Scramble for Allies x4>Decision: Prepare for the Final Battle x3>Decision: Exploit Change x3>Decision: Exploit Weakness x4>Exploit Market x4>Exploit Propaganda x1>A Thousand Years More (Rolled)>Total Influence: 55
>>97981578No thot. The Crusader is a holy knight of the Nine Divines that uses might and magic to smite the wicked wherever they are found.
>>97981519it's not thief. it's "The If", the meta class.
>>97981731I do not usually imagine holy knights as communing with spirits.
I just had the coolest idea for a CYOA, but it will most likely never be made because I'm too stupid and lazy. I'm not good enough at graphic design to do my fantasy of it justice anyways
>>97981765Is it an idea that requires unconventional graphic design and layout?
>>97981771not particularly, but it could certainly be a nice touch
>>97981764how are they holy then
>>97981764It all depends on the religious/mythological structure of the world. Even if you have some higher god or gods for a holy knight to be devoted to, those gods could have spirits under them as intermediaries. If you don't have those higher gods then communing with spirits may well be the most holy thing.
>>97981814Exactly>>97981833When you say it like that I kinda get it. Like how oracles replace the clergy in mythic bastionland
>>97981776Just copy the layout of other cyoas you see. Options as pictures with text underneath, laid out in a grid. Black background, white text.
>>97981945>>97981764Understandable. I also usually imagine holy knights as atheists. It just makes the most sense.
>>97981162FINALLY an excuse to post my build>From Letendre can a great spire be found, one brimming with a power unnatural to the creatures that inhabit the land. A great spire that the beasts know to evade by instinct. For within said spire lie a force of nature. An adopted child of the archipelago beneath the six moons. One that has earned the right to take from the land as he so choose. Outside the world where only the strongest thrive, the child is known as a herald of the endtimes, for his thirst, his hunger, knows no end. Being forced to adapt in his youth, to commit atrocities against those lost children of earth, stolen from their homes and whisked away by the world of the six moons. His search for a way home gave birth to Famine the horseman, today known for his ferocity and willingness to face any opposition, should it only prove a worthy challenge.>Fortune fell upon the Tribune of Duat, for the Horseman was known as a mercenary, one of a select few with such skill and renown. Allowing the Pontifex to walk the gilded halls of her inner sanctum unperturbed by the whispers of others.In the Tribune did the Horseman find the flame of ambition and in him did she find a means to escape her cage. He was a dog that had quickly found itself on a leash, her leash. But a dog with sharp teeth and a bite that suffered no competition.>>97981478Nice build, the experience and skills of living on that world would probably make you a political threat on earth, should you bother. >>97981765Editing and graphic design is the easiest part, if your cyoa idea is truly solid. all you need to dedicate is the time to learn. If an idiot like me can do it, then anyone can.
>>97980987>even count dooku would have trouble fighting 6 Jedi Mastershe bodied two Jedi Masters and the Chosen One in the fucking movies bro
I've been waiting for countless years for a cyoa that strikes me as unique and well made and fun enough to play a few times and giving me the motivation to complete some of my wips but I still haven't found oneHoiw much longer do I have to wait?
>>97982122have you considered that you are the problem?
>>97981419it's trans (literally)
>>97982126I've considered that maybe I drained all the enjoyment out of cyoas in the first few years of my discovery of them, but I've also considered that the caliber of modern authors is no longer as high as it once was back then
>>97982140then make something "high caliber" dumbfuck
>>97982148You first, as I said I have no motivation
>>97982165no YOU first
>>97982182nu uh
Anons should start using these things as inspiration for their cyoa setting. They are an untapped gold mine of worldbuilding and creativity.
>>97982122Alas, poor anon, doomed to remain a lazy entitled whiner! If only the perfect cyoa existed...
Rolled 2, 4 = 6 (2d5)>>97982214"Choose"? But what do I deserve?
This one is my personal favourite.
>>97982227>Asphodel style eternal boredom>Asphodel Meadows or Asphodel Fields (Ancient Greek: ἀσφοδελὸς λειμών, romanized: asphodelòs leimṓn)[1] are a section of the ancient Greek underworld where most ordinary souls are sent to live after death.[2] They are one of the three main divisions of the underworld along with Elysium, where righteous souls are rewarded, and Tartarus, where vicious souls are punished.[2] In his Odyssey, Homer locates the Fields of Asphodel close to the Land of dreams. He further refers to them as the dwelling place of the spirits of men who have abandoned their earthly labors.[3]>the dwelling place of the spirits of men who have abandoned their earthly labors.Well, that's me. I deserve this.
Rolled 5, 3 = 8 (2d5)>>97982214Hell but cool sounds intriguing.
>>97982116>he bodied two Jedi MastersYeah, but that's a lot different than a 1v6 gankfest>the Chosen Onehe was just a Padawan at the time
>>97982239Dang it, barely missed it. Welp, I'm a creeping ghost forever I guess.
>>97982242yeah and when obi-wan was just a padawan he bodied a sith lord and count dooku no-diffed him twice in a row while getting ganked by the fucking chosen one
>>97982215I made this one! But I doubt it would work as a setting, it's built around the specific presentation.
>>97982266>I made this one!That's awesome>But I doubt it would work as a setting, it's built around the specific presentation.You could make a pretty cool gimmick cyoa with that premise. Maybe one based on chess? or a card game?
>>97982099Cool otherworldly bases.Did you take a companion from Graceful Host to be your dominatrix?
>>97982220I've always loved the futuristic ones.
>>97981340picking shit as I go not reading this whole thing first>RaceBipedal the moment I saw "mounts" because dungeon delving cavalry sounds kino>Racial StrenghtsResistantCantripToughExtra Arms so I can steer my mount better>Racial WeaknessShort sounds like a buff for a dungeon knight like meEasily-Winded won't matter when I'm riding probably>Starting GearPaddle to keep things away from meHand Crossbow to shoot themprobably a really shitty set of stuff but whatever >ClassSanctifier because it has the horsie I need>Sanctifier SpecializationsMaster WrathMaster Divine SteedIntermediate Congregationbasic BlessingBasic Warding - Cantripdon't need anything but me horse and me diving wrath>BackgroundSchool - CartographyI mean I gotta understand where I am flying on my glorious steed>SkillsDungeon Cooking - it's just like in my japanese cartoons!Monster Knowledge - I only need to know how to vanquish my foes! and how to eat them of course>TraitsProstrated - a lore reason why I ride everywhere? yes pleaseMagical Alms - I don't see any downsides here, like if I can heal someone then obviously I will.don't like any of the other traits so I am skipping them>ItemsReplenishing Flask>FactionsOF COURSE I'LL JOIN THE BROTHERHOOD OF BENEVOLENCE HUZZAH! >dungeonsthe catacombs call my name>CompanionsGrimir is basically a cavalry manJorvan I guess since he is a fellow Benevolence ChadPunch Dwarf let's gothat freak Alcheon can follow along
>>97982214Field of reeds has so much aura hereThe quiet wind brushing against the reeds as you lie back and view your land. The small plot of the hereafter you'll be cultivating for eternityEgypt was cool. We need more detailed egypt stuff, all of the stuff I remember is so surface level. I need complicated non cliche egyptian magic system stuff
>>97982612There's this obscure egyptian god cyoa by Azes13.
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>>97982659I don't really understand how cyoas like this are fun
>>97982695I haven't enjoyed any cyoas by that author either. I don't actively hate anything in them, but they're not fun.
>>97982695What are you referring to?
>>97980810he slaughtered over 84...
>>97981340Overall I think I preferred v1.>>97982413Naisu builderu
>>97981419ALL offical art thoughbeit...Also this is 10000x better than random naked women or straight-up porn taking the reader out of the experience.
>>97982300Thanks man, yeah i was thinking that awakening in Letendre of all places, would do nothing but traumatise anyone.Her personality and specific powerset, help her in controlling someone way older than herself. It's fun to imagine her try and navigate a relationship with a wolf who consider her an alpha for as long as she keeps acting like one.
>>97980917>anyone have the name of the cyoa where you get pulled into a sci fi space universe because they were messing with the clone/doll factory of some ancient maker alien/ai or somethingSpace Opera Bodyguard, by Rake?
Creating waifubait characters for mass appeal: Creating characters that narrativize and work through my own personal neuroses:
>>979829934chan's unicode game is WEAK; the first line ends in an X'd checkbox while the second ends in a checked checkbox
>>97982999>4chan's unicode game is WEAK;bro this site was shutdown for a month because someone posted a book. unicode support might be good for april fools but not everyday posting.
>>97982999I expect this kind of post on my sister's Tik Tok. Be better.
>>97983025>He follows his sisters tiktokcreepy...
>>97983016>>97983025Behold, the forbidden texts, the bringers of ruin. Merely gazing upon them invokes decay. They were sealed away long ago in fear and awe of their power
>>97983025Does the Tik Tok generation even understand the word "unicode"?
>>97983036>not following your sister's tiktokHow do you expect to open up the incest route if you don't take an interest baka?
>>97983057Real humans don't have routes unless you're Tyrone.
>>97983057The only thing you'll be unlocking is the raped prisoner route.
>>97983076If it includes a tender recovery arc I could be persuaded.
>>97983079Your arc will be tenderized nicely, yes. I don't know about recovery tho. As they say "once you go black, you don't go back".
>>97983079>aftercare>raped prisoner routelmao
>>97983107thank god that doesn't apply to cyoa waifus.
>>97982215If both sides play optimally, this will end in a draw.
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>>97983173don't be rude anon! my waifu takes black cock all the time but she could stop at any time if she wanted to
CYOAs for this feel?
>>97983458Fight The Darkness CYOA.
>>97983460Solved this one before. The CYOA doesn't limit the number of choices you can pick, so you take both and store the booty on it. "You can store extra money on it without issues", so storing the booty this way will not present any difficulties, technically or pirate-wise
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Someone post Danmachi and make a build that isn’t gay (impossible)
>>97983518*heavy breathing*
>>97983530You can tell the person who made that picture was abusing their hamster
>>97983538It's not a hamster. It's a dog.
>>97983538>bulging eyesyou don't know shit about chinchilla
Can aro please post her latest ultimate wip? I feel like working on my build again.
Do Kabbalah's Astral Sight "discern the true nature of objects" and Discipline's Mu No Ken (means Fist of Nothingness) Transcendence "perceive things as they truly are" do the same thing?https://imgchest.com/p/6eyra68ke4p
>>97983708Idk it was made by gil ask him
>>97983633Not Aromage, but I'd say It's probably going to release this month, if so, then WIP posting would be unnecessary.
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>>97983750going to need a séance board for that
>>97983708I assume one is more "item based" and one is more "situational awareness". Astral Sight would tell you that this rock is fake, mu no ken would let you figure out that the rock is there for a specific purpose.
>>97982838yeah thanks ive been looking forever because the allsync's sort by genre is incomplete
>>97983708I think Astral Sight is some kind of Scan/Inspect, while Mu No Ken is more having a mind unclouded by emotion and illusion, maybe insight into people and situation too.
>>97983708unc playing oldhead cyoa
>>97983708I'm pretty sure the latter is from Buddhism.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prajnaparamitahttps://www.lifelonglearningcollaborative.org/silkroads/articles/diamond-sutra-translation.pdf>a mind which is in no way dependent upon sights, sounds, smells, tastes, sensory sensations or any mental conceptions>anyone who seeks total Enlightenment should discard not only all conceptions of their own selfhood, of other selves, or of a universal self, but they should also discard all notions of the non-existence of such concepts.>if they continue to hold onto arbitrary conceptions as to their own selfhood, they will be holding onto something that is non-existent. It is the same with all arbitrary conceptions of other selves, living beings, or a universal self. These are all expressions of non-existent things. Buddhas are Buddhas because they have been able to discard all arbitrary conceptions of form and phenomena, they have transcended all perceptions, and have penetrated the illusion of all forms.TLDR: you understand the true nature of reality.
>>97981162>OCAnother conduit spinoff. Help me think of some timelines. What would your conduit character create?
>>97979746>prequelshit
>>97983958wouldnt that just be equivalent to reaching the root then?
>>97984034If I became a Conduit, I'd spam as many bridges and outposts of different worlds onto Earth as possible, to make it more interesting. Ideally, I would have them overlap for even stranger terrains. I don't think I would be doing this for any goal outside of irrevocably breaking the mundanity and dimensional isolation previously intrinsic to Earth. The USA would likely try to assassinate me, now that I think of it. Best of luck to them. I'm behind layers of hax and thousands of servants.
>>97983708Build repost.>OriginThe Bloodline>PathTruth, Power, The Next Step>MagecraftMagic Crest, Hexcraft 5 (S), Animamancy 1, Kabbalah 1>The Limits of the Human FrameDiscipline 5, Tactics 5>The MundaneHeavy Arms, Prana-Treated Tools>ContactsCastle, Eye Spy, Journalists>BasesMansion (Cells, Workshop, Greenhouse)>CompanionsMiya Le, Rin Edelfelt>Supreme ThreatsHeinrich Wulff, Reinhardt Von Austerwiz, Lucius Ars Nehrtmal, The Collector>QuestsThe Holy Grail War
>>97984034A timeline where Arcadia was split into 2 sides. One is a noblebright fairytale land you typically find in disney movies with cute pixies, talking anthromorphic animals, innocent princesses. The other is a dark twisted land straight out of fuckup german folklore, full of child-eating witches, inhuman fairies, rape goblins, etc...
>>979841701. It's Earth that gets split timelines2. that premise is literally Lorwyn from mtg
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someone post dragonfall
>>979841903. If we're going to involve fanworlds, they should have a next gen awakening version
>>97984081Nirvana (or maybe Buddhahood, but it's hard to pin down what it is and how to attain it) should be equivalent to reaching the root.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)>In the Buddhist tradition, nirvana has commonly been interpreted as the extinction of the "three poisons" of greed (raga), aversion (dvesha) and ignorance (moha).Understanding the true nature of reality is extinguishing ignorance.
>>97984190>1That's boring>2I don't what the fuck that is
I got curious. Here are all the requests of /cyoag/ from May of last year until now.>Someone post;>Danmachi>Fairy Tail>DragonFall>Radiant>Magi Case>Isekai Light Overlord>"a fate cyoa">Skeleton Gangrape>Orbs of Desire>"the bait cyoa">Timestop Chillzone>Patrollers>Black Magic>Anime High School>Planeswalker Rising>Isekai dark overlord>Spirit Conscript>Pikachu Cumslut>Mushoku Tensei >Ultimate God>Witcher
>>97984209I myself prefer the original template (most of the fanworlds included). Awakening while a bit more polished, lacks a ton of the details that make the original conduit so appealing.
>>97984251>>Pikachu CumslutSOUL
>>97984253The original doesn't have diverging timelines though.
>>97984267Just make them up bro. You're making a fan add-on, nobody will care if you diverge a bit.
>>97984251Obvious made-up bait list.
>>97984267Diverging timelines are a bit soulless, it makes the earth less unique and diminishes the value of individual people.
>>97984286You can verify it yourself through a quick archive dive.Then again I guess a compilation of baits is a bait list in essence.
>>97984275Like, as something not related to the existing mechanics? Without any of the lore about cross-timeline bridges and gateways and roaming conduits?Why would you be interested in that?The whole premise is based on imagining something concrete and specific for those perks to interact with.
Did anyone else find Lord of Mysteries really oddly balanced? It really seems like it's balanced around mixed builds that already start in a Sequence, whereas planning for Future Advancement lands you with no Coincidences but a glut of the other three resources, which by the mechanics of the cyoa you're supposed to start with. That is to say, the Coincidence points are specifically for arranging fate to push you towards gaining things in the future. Hence their use for future advancement. However, you really need to burn all your Coincidence points to move the future advancement needle. That leaves you with a ton of accumulated points for Wealth, Knowledge, and Influence. However, there's no indication that you will gain these in the future since that's explicitly what Coincidence points are for. The implication, then, is you're starting as a Non-Beyonder or Sequence 9 with Wealth, Knowledge, or Influence befitting a much stronger character which does not make narrative or mechanical sense. Unless, of course, you assume you don't gain those resource points until the Events come to pass. For example, you don't have that +2 Wealth from Ancient Treasure until the event occurs so therefore you could not purchase that Sealed Artifact so therefore it's fated by implication. In that case I would need to create a parallel future track for my acquisitions.
>>97984379You don't pick events of future sequences.
>>97983708any good waifus here?
>>97984383Did Tank clarify? Because the description box says “don’t pick any past history events, only selecting the Sequences directly.” but the actual Sequence chart has the Choose Event option below both past and future advancement. If you’re not intended to select an Event, why would you put the instructions to do so directly below an option it does not apply to? Additionally, the Events in the chart are not explicitly called past history events. I took that to mean you still got events, they were just future and convergence events. If what you’re saying is accurate, you’d only utilize Convergence events for event selection during Future Advancement planning, correct? Regardless that’s fucking stupid because it’s more interesting to define the events that lead to your advancement.
I wish I wasn't such a designlet man.
>>97981765>>97984514Nobody starts off good at design. There are only two ways to get good: Studying your image editor of choice and creating OC. If you do neither, your vision will never come to fruition. It's hard and often thankless work but there is no feeling like posting a brand new CYOA.
>>97982129It's bizarre to me how much mental space is taken up by people's headcanons of my personal life after literal years of ghosting this place
>>97984689Has it already been years? I remember your last CYOA prior to the new one wasn't too far off.
>>97984713My last sfw CYOA was 2 years ago, and I don't remember if I even posted it here. I made a collab like six months ago but I never came here to post it.
>>97981340>RaceWinged>Racial strengthsEnduringToughMystical>Racial weaknessesShortWeak (from Winged)Delicate back (from Winged)>Starting gearMarlinspikeCoin pouch>ClassPsion>SpecializationsInfusion - IntermediateBladekinesis - IntermediateEmpowerment - AdvancedConcealment - Master>BackgroundDungeon Tribe>SkillsNegotiationSurvivalDungeon Lore (from Dungeon Tribe)Locksmithing (from Skilled)>TraitsSkilledDungeon GourmandSwiftened Nerves (Psion trait)Clear mind (Psion trait)>ItemsRabbit's foot>FactionsHonestly doesn't really matter but I lean towards the Brotherhood of Benevolence. Hounds of Honor would be totally fine too.>DungeonsPrison>CompanionsHiyoriDrezsha of DarkholmeTlaco the TallGrimir Broadhoof>OverallRogue archetype with the Psion swiftstrike, flash step, invisibility, and forgotten, + various debuffs when actually cutting things. Use wings + swiftstrike + forgotten large mana pool to generally either be attacking or be not in the fight.Our party has 3 members who are Dungeon Gourmands, and the other two are either dungeon-completionist or experience-chasing, this group is mostly going to be in Dungeons for fun and optionally profit.In terms of combat, we have two people who can hold a frontline, we have a druid for healing, we have a summoner, and we have a mobile assassin. The only thing we're really missing is some kind of reliable ranged damage, but between summoned imps and me being able to fly I'm expecting that to be a mitigateable issue.Rabbit foot for luck because luck is always good, and Locksmithing because Prison means traps and this group's only other answer to that are summons.
>>97984736It really has been that long? Damn. I guess time flies when we're having fun. I don't have any hard feelings for authors who don't post here anymore, it's tricky to balance life and CYOAs, but I've got a lot of respect for them regardless. You're one of the only ones that still did sci-fi CYOAs, which were almost a dying art. I especially love Backyarder. Not enough comfy CYOAs get made anymore, and I'm part of the problem somewhat, all of mine are violent- but I'll get around to making a comfy one sooner or later. How has life been going for you, by the way? Any revelations or victories of late?
>>97983708Maybe they do the same thing, but Astral Sight is the bootleg version of Fist of Nothingness Transcendence, which is why filtering information is necessary—the whole truth is too much to bear; only a corner can be glimpsed.
>>97984811>literal magic (arguably THE magic) is a bootleg version of kung fu zen
>>97984790Yeah. I get sad when my favorite authors don't post for a long time, but it is what it is, they got lives to live too. I stopped posting here specifically because nobody made builds for anything anymore, but that seems to have changed since I last visited, so that's nice. I wanna make more CYOAs, but I had all my creative time lately taken up by my fanfic. I actually just finished it, which is why I made Coven's Nightmare, to release concurrently with the last chapter. How about you? I'd be happy to see more comfy CYOAs.
>>97984689cyoag as a whole sometimes devolves into headcanons of authors - Aro is a girl, Tok is dumb, Italics is slow, etc - with only a few posts in between.
>>97984834I've been very busy working on my degree but the upcoming summer semester is fairly scant, so I should be able to finish the project I've been working on. I'm not sure that you would enjoy it, but it's almost exactly an anti-comfy CYOA, or perhaps a strife CYOA, where it's as miserable and difficult as possible while being, in theory, survivable. One of five sections is largely done and that took me roughly two weeks to do, so I should be able to finish it in another couple of months. With my work, possibly three or even longer though I'd rather it be sooner. Longer CYOAs are a commitment, for sure.It's good to hear you've finished up a fanfic. That's a lot of time spent immersed in trying to recreate the atmosphere of a wider work, or works, for another plot. I've never written one myself but I am pretty impressed with those who do. The thread culture's shifted a bit, some anons are more bitter and authors post less, but at the same time, they really get lost in CYOAs when they do hit. I've seen some threads be consumed for over a month on the same CYOA. Sometimes days for old CYOAs, too! It's the same /cyoag/ as ever, I think, just going through recovery post-mitosis to make the /mcyoag/, and waiting for the next big thing. Personally, I hope to see Exalted Conquest since I like putting together parts to make a greater whole or surmount some obstacle, and minion stuff tends to be great for that, but a lot of your CYOAs do exactly that! I don't know what to think of it, nonetheless I'm excited to see what the future holds.
>>97983708>Origin Bloodline>PathThe Next Step>MagicMagic CrestReinforcement 3Enhancement 1Hexcraft 5 (Speciality)Kabbalah 1Runic Magic 1Jewel Magic 1>SkillsTactics 5 (speciality)>MundaneInsidersCastleEye SpyPenthouseWorkshopGarageVan (Surveillance station. Stealth)>CompanionsRin EdelfeltElizabeth Knightly>Supreme threatHeinrich WulfeReinhardt Von AusterwizThe CollectorLucius Ars Nehrtmal> QuestMystery BoxBuild Repasta. Idea is to use Projection to create sculptures of my enemies, use Jewel boosted Reinforcement to turn them into perfect replicas and then use Sympathy/Soulfire to burn them to death. Not-Wilhelm will need a black key shoved in his copy first, and with Reinhardt I'll need to kill him quickly before he can negate the magic, but it should be manageable.
>>97984822>reeeeeee muh hecking jew hocus pocus!lel, get combo'ed bitch
>>97984841>Aro is a girl, Tok is dumb, Italics is slowThese are all factual though? Expect maybe Tok, he isn't just dumb he is actually in the sub-jeet IQ level.
>>97984924I hadn't written a fanfiction since I was about 14, so coming back in my late 20's to do it after years of making original novels was a super interesting experience for me. It has a lot of unique challenges and opportunities compared to original fiction, and it made me really appreciate what George Lucas and the other Expanded Universe authors were doing. Great excuse to do a lot of research into the making of.I usually don't like misery porn CYOAs, but if there's a path to victory, then it's something I can have fun with. I have about a 50/50 love/sad ratio for btganon CYOAs if that's a good barometer. I look forward to playing it!
>>97985107>These are all factual though?Irrelevant. We're here to post about CYOAs, not the people who made them.
>>97984834Hey Hyenanon how would you feel about doing a Recon Rover Rick expansion with the Alien Crossfire factions? I know those are a little less fleshed out than the originals (Except the Hiveman, that will never not be retarded pic related) but it would interesting to see your take on them like what you did with the Data Angels.
>>97981340Anyone got the build list?I can't find my build.
>>97983708>All these retards choosing Bloodline origin even though its objectively shittier and much less cost effective than Forged.Proof that magecucks will blindly jump on anything as long as it has the caster label slapped on it.
>>97985191If you want a magic crest its just better. 25pts equivalent + 1 mil vs 25pts equivalent + 500k
>>97985161Personally I see nothing much to play with in regards to the Pirates, Cyborgs, Cultists, or either of the xenos. Pirates are basically nothing, Cyborgs are literally just University people who disagree about the effectiveness of cybernetics, and Cultists are one note by design because they plan to kill themselves ASAP. The aliens really get nothing to work with either, and I think they ruin the tone and pacing of the game. The Free Drones could've been worked in, since they have an actual ideology different from the others (sewer socialism and anti-intellectualism), but I wanted an even number of factions, because the graphic design would've been way harder otherwise.I think Yang is more interesting than he at first appears, given that he's heavily influenced by sanjiao beliefs and does genuinely believe in them to the point of being a natural psychic, but the writing of his quotes and the writing of his in-game dialogue (and especially base names, jesus christ) are a little too on the nose.Ultimately I don't think I'm gonna make a DLC for Recon Rover Rick. It's already maybe the highest wordcount-per-choice CYOA in existence and quite long. If I was going to go back and make edits or expansions to old CYOAs, there's several others I would prefer to do it with, but mainly I want to make new ones. There *could* be room for an entirely new SMAC CYOA, though.
>>97985191The point system is incredibly fucked up. The Forged is the only origin that makes sense if you take enemies.
>>97985285>the brute force option is the only option if you want to fight the people far stronger than what the power system you have available allows
Hello to all, and apologies for being late last monthApril has ended, and it is time once more to voteThis month has had a record number of cyoa release, to the point I must split my post. How joyousThe following are the cyoa's released during april on 4chan:Your cyoa [TokHaar Gol]{Update}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97814065/#97820125Thu 02 Apr 2026 01:20:49https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97826807/#97830406Fri 03 Apr 2026 18:53:59A Dilemma of Doubloons CYOA [Nightrider]{Single choice}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97826807/#97834658Sat 04 Apr 2026 12:40:25A shamans choice [Anon]{Text post}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97826807/#97835678Sat 04 Apr 2026 16:56:15Sleepy [Voidsoul]{Handdrawn}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97852146/#97861579Wed 08 Apr 2026 20:56:16Magic insurance fraud [Voidsoul]https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97883770/#97884725Mon 13 Apr 2026 06:53:34 Hole digging RYOA [Ersatzanon]{Ryoa}{Text post}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97891788/#97897853Thu 16 Apr 2026 13:55:54International academy of mages Character Creator [Voidsoul]{Text only Image}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97891788/#97899288Thu 16 Apr 2026 19:22:02Nation builder [Voidsoul]{Text only Image}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97891788/#97899992Thu 16 Apr 2026 21:30:55Pokemon world [Beri]https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97900777/Thu 16 Apr 2026 23:57:09Rape waifu roller [Anon]{Textpost}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97916211/#97920349Tue 21 Apr 2026 02:51:02 Nation control [Ersatzanon]{Textpost}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97931658/#97935253Thu 23 Apr 2026 22:54:36Elden ring Claims [RadiantAnon]{WIP/Prelude}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97931658/#97933153Thu 23 Apr 2026 14:55:44https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97937290/#97944199Sat 25 Apr 2026 21:26:26(1/2)
>>97985367(2/2)Danmachi choice [Voidsoul]{Single choice}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97937290/#97939460Fri 24 Apr 2026 21:19:53Danmachi choice and collab [Voidsoul and anon and anon]{Wip}{Handdrawn}https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97937290/#97943007Sat 25 Apr 2026 16:55:41Star Wars Warlord: Coven's Nightmare [Hyenanon]https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/97967622/#97972194Thu 30 Apr 2026 21:32:04As always, you are encouraged to replay the above cyoa's before votingWinners of these polls will be added to a final vote for cyoa of the year, although the main purpose of these votes is to give a time to look backFirst choice poll:https://strawpoll.com/kogjRY0D9g6Ranking poll:https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo34WV0yA
>>97985276Ah well that's fine. Speaking off, do the Transcendent Paths stack? Also are the leaders automatically assumed dead once their faction falls? can I insert the crossfire factions into my build? I wanted to keep some around, mostly as minor helpful/hostile npcs or companions (except the aliens, I don't like them too)Lastly, would you mind tell me which projects you're planning on? something to look forward to you know? Either way good luck with your endeavours.
>>97985386Yep, transcendent paths stack.Leaders are either dead or captured when their faction falls. In the game, depending on settings, they can be freed or even break out and start again on their own, so you could interpret that as a possibility.Sure, you can insert them into your build.My notes are very scattered and often times when I DO end up making a CYOA, it has nothing to do with any of the CYOAs I was planning to make, it just pops out in a fugue state. But right now, the scattered things in my notes are: "Problematic Yuri," "Kids on a haunted reservation try not to die", "In depth Netrunner CYOA", "Cold War toxic relationship", and "Horrible leviathan state during the springtime of peoples."
>>97984251this is not accurate, I myself have requested or answered at least four or five CYOAs not listed here. Are you just searching "Someone post ____"?
>>97985535>Are you just searching "Someone post ____"?Yes. If they don't follow the bait formula, they're probably not baits, thus not important to the list.
What’s your favorite gil experience?Mine is when I told him his favorite brand of chocolate was made using slightly spoiled milk (it is American chocolate company after all), which is why it has a slight taste of sick throw up, and he got very angry at me.
>>97985367>>97985386Lotsa choices this time!
>>97985622He told me to kms using a bottle of high sodium s0i sauce it was very hurtful
>>97985367>Elden ring Claims [RadiantAnon]{WIP/Prelude}Hey, sorry, I never corrected those Anons. I, Voidsoul, am working on this one.
>>97985635Yes. It's been a pretty good month>>97985645Oh, really?I suppose I'll fix it in the log then. Thanks for disclosing
>>97985622I STILL DON’T KNOW WHO GIL ISit is fucking WEIRD seeing you guys talk about someone imaginary from my point of view like it’s some sort of sick inside joke or something
>>97985656Anon... Don't you remember? (You) are Gil.
>>97985622Chromosomes…….
>>97985622The butyric acid in hershey's chocolate isn't due to the milk spoiling, nor do they add butyric acid. Hershey's hasn't stated their process, however people have figured out the cause of the butyric acid. Basically they cook the milk at a low temperature for a longer time. That causes an enzyme found in milk to break down some of the fats, and as a result produces butyric acid. If you heat the milk to a higher temperature you break down that enzyme before it can do anything. Taking milk and making butter also produces butyric acid, which is named for butter, because that is where it was originally found.>>97985656CYOA author, you can look up his stuff in the allsync. I don't know why people obsess over him, but I also don't know why people obsess over any author outside of what works they have produced.
>>97985934>all this coping just to say “yes, it does taste like vomit, but here’s why!”lol
>>97985934Butter has a very small amount and it isn’t supposed to have high amounts as this is an indication of spoilage. Chocolate shouldn’t taste like vomit ever.
>>97985939I never said their chocolate is good. Hell they also roast the chocolate to the point that it tastes burnt. They do several things that ruin the chocolate in the pursuit of 'consistency'. There are just a lot of myths around what is happening with hersey's chocolate, despite the answer being available.>>97985953Ok? I was just explaining why that taste is there. People keep repeating myths about them leaving the milk around until it spoils, or that they add butyric acid, or that they add the enzyme that produces it. The answer though is simple and easily available, but people are more inclined to repeat the myths.
>>97986005Shut the fuck up Gil. Stop possessing that poor Anon and go back to hell where you belong.
>>97983708Is there such a thing as "theological incompatibility" in the setting? Most religions are incompatible with each other. Does using one religion's magic preclude you from using another's?
>>97985953I wouldn't describe Hershey's as vomit-tasting but I'm not sure I would describe it as chocolate-tasting either. The BEST-case scenario is that my taste buds at least stay neutral and don't end up sadder than before the Hershey's, and I'm left feeling a bit hollow and regretful to have spent money and calories on something so tastelessI honestly don't understand the brand; if you're going to eat something that contributes to making you fatter, wouldn't you at least want to spend a little more money on chocolate that's capable of being a pleasant experience?
>>97986020You’re so used to vomit you can’t even detect it anymore lmao you’re so gross. Gross, gross American!
>>97986024I maybe eat Hershey's once a decade. Did you even read the post...? The whole thing is about how I can't imagine why people would buy it at all and how I prefer nicer brands...
>>97986032t. Vomit drinker
>>97986035(I actually relate/self-insert as Reze the most but I do like Denji as a character)
>>97983825>the allsync's sort by genre is incompleteThe allsync doesn't have a sort by genre option. The genre section is where unclaimed and one-hit-wonder cyoas are saved. Since Rake has multiple cyoas to his name, Space Opera Bodyguard would be in his author folder (and only his author folder).
>>97983708>Do Kabbalah's Astral Sight "discern the true nature of objects" and Discipline's Mu No Ken (means Fist of Nothingness) Transcendence "perceive things as they truly are" do the same thing?Given the CYOA's Fate/Nasuverse underpinings, they'd be geo-locked to certain geographic regions, being weaker/less reliable outside of it. So that would be different.
>>97986042I want to give Denji a violent handjob so bad.
>>97986097I just want to give him a big hug until all the trauma melts away
>>97985656>STILL DON’T KNOW WHO GIL IS>it is fucking WEIRD seeing you guys talk about someone imaginary from my point of view like it’s some sort of sick inside joke or somethingI answer this question at least once a month, so I have a hard time believing that. One more time, though:Gil (short for Gilgamesh) was a shitposter who matured out of trolling the thread, and went on to be a reasonably good CYOA author. A lot of his work has Fate/Stay Night influence, and he took his author name from the franchise.The last known posts by Gil involved his latest WIP - a not!Argonauts cyoa. However, he never released it, and it's been several years.
>>97985622You talked shit about kitkat and you expected anything less?
>>97986132Kitkat's bad but at least not as bad as Hershey's. The milk chocolate flavor is trash but they get carried by some of the weird Japanese flavors
>>97984190>that premise is literally Lorwyn from mtg. . .What's your point? A bunch of the current worlds are based on older anime and video game titles. Myst, Escaflowne, and more. (They usually say at the bottom of the world's page.)
>>97985367Thanks PollAnon. Even if you cut the polls this monthly list of OC is a positive influence on the general. I appreciate also that you aren't a chimage purist and include basically anything that has the rudiments of a CYOA: an enlightened approach. it's refreshing to have such an array this month as opposed to the sure thing last time>>97985543gotcha, I misunderstood your goal
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>>97984154Sounds to be like you're a destructive nihilist into chaos for chaos' sake.Supervillain behavior.>>97984034Gotta have facismile world and playing catch-up representation.What about a world identical to our own but bridges have existed since the 1800's. (it was created 7 years ago)Or one where the Rim meister spinoff took place.In terms of naturally split timelines before the awakening you have classics like what if Germany won WWII, what if America was never colonized, and what if Christianity had never developed.
Why are anime fantasy settings always the same? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgopaiz-z2E&pp=ygUSWWFvaSBoZWFsaW5nIGhhYmRz&ra=m
>>97986214>merchantT-Taylor Swift?
>>97986316>ancient immortal loli mage who just so happens to be (one of) the most powerful casters ever and she knows like everything >main character sucks but also has a super special skill that lets him do awesome things but he’s like totally humble and won’t use it >cutesy animal themed side characters>gay jokesYeah its bad
>>97983708Does a magic crest actually make your magic stronger or is it only useful for getting crest-only magic?
>>97981340>Race & Starting GearBipedalEnduring, Tough, Attuned, MysticalShort, Dulled sense of smellConch and Bell>Class and specializationsArsenalDivine Steed - MasterWrath - AdvancedBlessing of Life - BasicLife Magic - Basic upgraded to intermediate>Background, Skills, Traits, Starting itemRural - First aid, Survival, Morale BoostFate Touched - Succubus CompanionProstrated - Life magic to intermediateEverymanSpellcaster's Ring>Faction, Dungeon, CompanionsBrotherhood of BenevolenceCavesHiyori, Tlaco the Tall, Jorvan Vale, AlcheonSanctifier was almost the perfect archtype but I needed arsenal to scratch that itch of more permanent companions and a life drain/blood magic shenanigans. I have no clue what a fate-touched succ will do to me but it can't be that bad right?
>ancient immortal loli mage who just so happens to be (one of) the most powerful casters ever and she knows like everythingKINO
>>97986346It’s not kino when eighty percent of all anime does it; lolis are lazy Do the Japanese hate drawing faces that don’t look the same or something? It’s like they hate drawing old people since it takes a bit more work
>>97986374>lolis are lazyThis is a brainrot opinion but even if it weren't it still means nothing. Oh noooo it's easy to make kino what ever will we do, my steak is too juicy.
>>97986374That's all bullshit, but this is a great time to talk about dungeon meshiOther anons, ones who are not this one, what did you think of the faces and character design in dungeon meshi?
>>97986374>Do the Japanese hate drawing faces that don't look the same or something?It's probably due to the medium. In anime and especially manga, the artists will have to draw the same faces over and over again, making simpler facial designs that can still clearly express emotion practical.That's not the case here, though, so more complicated facial designs can be (and often are) preferable.
>>97986316Is that the setting that has magic and sorcery as distinct things? I usually hate when anime pretends such ubiquitous words are somehow not that. Magic is sorcery and sorcery is magic.
>>97986397>That's not the case here, thoughAre you high?
>>97986441Whether I am high or not is irrelevant to the fact that cyoas do not tend to feature the same face in a variety of different drawings like you would find in a manga. There's a reason cyoa creators often use paintings as sources, or look for digital images with a "painterly" style. Not that they all do, but it's quite common.
>>97986396Very good I like Dungeon Meshi a lotSomehow, against all odds, common sense, and basic logic, the furry is the best character. It's bafflingly impressive
>>97986431Lots of settings have that distinction, anime or otherwise. Like Discworld.In my setting, sorcery is supernatural abilities specifically programmed into certain individuals, species, or locations in the world simulation by the developers, as a pun on "source code". While magic is glitches that were unintended (wrongwarp space magic, culling glitch illusion magic, etc)
>>97986514And how do the native distinguish this?
>>97986514Discworld sorcery (sourcery) is just super charged wizardry genetics (seventh son of a seventh son). It’s a super wizard. But “what sorcery is this” is an expression for magic in general. It’s weird to have a sorcerer be some specific thing. It can be a prestigious title, or a rank in some institution, though. Dungeons & Dragons should never be considered since it started class cancer.
>>97986514That seems more superficial than truly differential. “Magic is innate. Sorcery is getting demons to do shit for you!”“So demons are magic then? Since they’re innate?”
>>97986514Magic requires complicated training and procedures/rituals (glitch setups) to learn, but has many broad and flexible applicationsSorcery comes naturally without training (and cannot be learned) and is borderline effortless, and can be very powerful, but is narrow in scope (limited to the functions specifically programmed for that individual/species/place)The natives are largely unaware of the "simulation" part of the setting>>97986538Well actually they're Daemons (as in computer Daemons) and they're vital parts of the world, using their sorcery to maintain and balance the world from the shadows
“Magic is a glitch in the code! It’s a glitch in the physics!” Cool. That just implies reality is a simulation. Beep boop beep.
>>97986551I was making a jab at the anime anon poked. Not yours. If it’s a part of the world then it’s all the same shit at the end of the day. Extra hoops don’t change that.
>>97986553Yes, and...?
>>97986551>they’re vital parts of the worldBlue eyes are a glitch in biology. Are they not a part of the world?
>>97986551>Dee en Dee slop logic Jesus Christ you need to stop that. Sorcery as a term can be used to refer to literally anything that’s sufficiently “wtf”.
>>97986551Sounds like those glitches are just another part of physics and not really glitches at all. Is technology a glitch? Magic in D&D is like a giant collection of computer programs with weird ways to press their “buttons”, often consisting of strange ingredient interactions that make no sense (repeating it is what matters - it’s more like a signal for something to go off).
>>97986562A little less vital than, say, a Daemon whose power is needed to keep time flowing correctly in the world, I would say>>97986564I've never played DnD and I'm not very familiar with it. I'm just describing the distinction/definitions of sorcery and magic in my WIP's setting...?
>>97986569The biggest difference in terms of the setting is that sorcery is what the original developers of the simulation intended to include in the world. While magic is exploits that characters within the simulation figured out on their own, going beyond what the developers originally intended to be possible. And extensively studying the differences between magic and sorcery at a high level could clue some natives to hypothesize that they were in a simulation
Which is better, magic systems with a baseline reality that functions according to real-life physics with an "extra" energy that can do wondrous things, or magic systems based on fictional cosmology where the rules that govern magic are not fundamentally different from those that govern seemingly mundane phenomena?Is electricity just a real-life magic system?
>>97986594Nothing I create is ever to my own satisfaction. I always hope my work will inspire others to take the premise further.Nobody has created a new hard magic system cyoa for empowering followers yet, but I hold out hope.
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>>97986335immortal lolis are good shit though
>>97986581You’re ignoring the psychology of the meaning. You basically have to hope that the name refers to anything but that. But by such a point you’ve missed the entire point of magic. There’s a reason why magic and superpowers are so intertwined. If you can do something people can’t, you’re going to be called a witch or a wizard or a sorcerer or a magician or some other such similar label. To say there’s a hard difference between magic and sorcery is idiotic, or just ironic, especially when the latter has more so an association with learned and repeated ritual than innate magic. In places like Africa sorcerers and witch doctors are seen as learned wise men or magicians, while witches are seen as cursed individuals (but of course the sorcerers and witch doctors are the ones who decide - so who is the real wicked one here?). Witchcraft was closer to being innate, in a lot of belief systems, since in some parts of the world it was seen like more of an affliction or condition than something you learn. Makes sense, considering the prevalence of witch accusations (accusations of sorcerer in Ancient Rome were similar, and you didn’t need to be innate or learned to be accused). It can be acquired but it’s also something you might be born with. The wizard vs sorcery distinction was always dumb when both referred to learned individuals. Sometimes sorcerer is used in place of wizard to refer to something scholarly. Like Dark Souls. Sorcerers are basically wizards there, and some are called witches too. The source of the magic isn’t really important. Magic as its purest is just, well, “how did you do that?”.
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>>97986594I like the idea of high-level physics, quantum physics, etc. as essentially real-life glitchhunting.>Life simulation sets a speed cap of 299,792,458 m/s>Humanity says that's too slow>Looks for an exploit to glitch the very fabric of space and construct an Alcubierre drive for more efficient speedruns
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>>97986615>>97986613I mean "the component quarks of this atom have a lower combined mass than the atom itself, so we split it to reduce the total mass and release energy into the world" does feel like exploiting a dev oversight.
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>>97986608I'm...not making any kind of statement on the magic vs sorcery distinction in general, or the true meaning of magic, or anything like that, though...I'm just describing my own personal WIP setting, which I think has a fresh take on the "simulated world" trope and how sorcery and magic play into and build up that trope
>>97986608You were originally complaining about anime.Let's extend some grace there and recognize that they were originally using Japanese terms. The localizers were forced to pick two different English terms, but probably couldn't find ones that carry the original associations without having some semantic overlap.
>>97986336>Does a magic crest actually make your magic stronger or is it only useful for getting crest-only magic?Since Gil was heavily influenced by the Nasuverse/Fate, probably both. There, a crest is like a magical trust fund, passed down through the generations and added to by each bearer.
>>97986627Sure, but if you have people born and raised in a simulated world, then over time such distinctions will lose meaning and umbrella terms will rush in. It doesn’t matter if you’re learned or innate or sponsored, or a mix thereof, when it’s still something that is out of the ordinary to persons. This is why demon summoning and angel summoning were seen as two sides of the same coin. You’re still just summoning or petitioning alien beings at the end of the day. It’s the goals and morals that matter and separate. Theurgia (‘divine working’) and Goeteia (‘demon working’) were seen as high and low magic respectively (high in that it elevates the self to the divine, and low as in it pursues lower material rewards and services) despite doing the same thing in essence (whether you contact angels for enlightenment or demons for service, you’re still making contact). Theurgia and Thaumaturgy are also contrasted. One is higher (or inward) the other is lower, or manifested. They both impact the other. Theurgia was like your spiritual insight or power level while Thaumaturgy is what you can do with it.To a modern day scientist a lot of things in are quite distinct, but to someone from the past it’s just “magic”. This is where the stereotypical image of the learned wizard came from. A wide assortment of different esoteric fields: artifice, geometry, astrology, alchemy, etc. Even l fire magic and ice magic might only be distinct on the surface with a shared background below. Since the cold is just the absence of heat, fire and ice magic could be closer to a nuanced dichotomy that amounts to the same sort of magic (similar to light and dark), or something altogether artificial (“the gods of fire don’t care for your logic, even if it’s correct; they think the gods of ice are gay and you don’t get their magic ever!”) to be reinforced as separate when they’re not. The construction is what is separate, not the underlying background.
>>97986316>Why are anime fantasy settings always the sameThey aren't, but the localizing companies tend to fall into ruts (like anyone else), bringing over franchises that are similar to ones that have sold well before. I recommend looking at the old Pioneer/Geneon catalog of titles, if you're bored. Before their patent company shut them down, they brought over a lot of oddball franchises.
>>97986694If you're going to argue language evolution anything can happen. People can develop an understanding of "sorcery" as something fundamentally un-magical. Closer to a martial arts or technology as a way to interface with reality, as opposed to "magic" which circumvents it.Words are loose things. They drift about and are not tied to anything fundamental to reality.
>>97986650>Let's extend some grace there and recognize that they were originally using Japanese terms. The localizers were forced to pick two different English terms, but probably couldn't find ones that carry the original associations without having some semantic overlap.Fair enough. It reminds me of Elden Ring and its sorcery/incantations. Sorcerer enemies are heard incanting their spells. Are they not incantations too? In Japanese incantations were just called prayers. It made more sense. Spells and prayers were synonymous in history. Not sure why localizers are so stupid. They didn’t need to improvise a new name. Of course, heretical prayers/incants should realistically also be called things like sorcery (in the pejorative sense, when/if sorcery is just another word for le bad magic) or witchcraft, but I assume the sorcerers simply took a pejorative used by their detractors and embraced it. “They called us sorcerers, so we made the name our own”.
>>97986694>if you have people born and raised in a simulated world, then over time such distinctions will lose meaning and umbrella terms will rush in. Yes, this is also accounted for in my setting. Common folk often use "magic" and "sorcery" interchangeably, while mages who are knowledgeable on the subject (particularly, the companion character whose studies could be on the verge of discovering that the world is a simulation) choose their vocabulary with more care
>>97986711Prayers would have made slightly more sense than miracles in the Dark Souls games too, mind you. The games show that it’s more so method than source. Sorcery is a method for magic, just like praying is. Miracles and sorcery are the resulting magic that follows. But this is minor enough as to be pedantic.
>>97986717Capital-w wizards wouldn’t actually call their shit magic or sorcery literally, rather than as a description.
>>97986709>People can develop an understanding of "sorcery" as something fundamentally un-magicalYou’ve created an altogether different meaning for the word, then. >Closer to a martial arts or technology as a way to interface with realityMartial arts and technology have been called magical before if they’re sufficiently mysterious or occult or exotic. This is what makes magic, well, magic. This is what makes it seem like it circumvents reality. Unfamiliarity. >as opposed to "magic" which circumvents it.It doesn’t really circumvent it. Not to the logician. It’s just another part of reality. Closer to technology if you bother to argue it circumvents anything at all. If some godlike alien made sure to patch in sone “glitches” in the system, they’re certainly not unnatural to them. They’re intentional.
>>97986724Sure they would. Scientists have a lot of specialized knowledge and vocabulary specific to their field, but they still know that they're performing "science"
>>97986739Magic labels like wizardry and sorcery are too soft to be used as hard descriptions for anything, sorry. You’ll also have wizards that are unsatisfied and not amazed and refuse to call their shit magic just like atheists do. Some scientists call their fields magic. They just don’t use it as a serious definition. Listen. “Magic” has always been more magical than MagicTM. What happens when your glowing blue energy (MagicTM) runs afoul of some glowing green energy that blows it out of the water? Do you suddenly not call it “magic” because the name has already been trademarked? It doesn’t work that way. Even if the word magic isn’t used, another word will be used to describe something “weird and strange and it does things I cannot explain”. Consider that the elves in Lord of the Rings don’t consider themselves magical, and Gandalf isn’t a wizard back home in Valinor. He describes himself as a wizard because he may as well be to the people of middle earth, and he calls his abilities spells because they may as well be.
>>97986739All science is still science. It’s like saying something blatantly magical isn’t magic. It’s like saying biology isn’t science, or geology isn’t science. It’s just weird. If it’s causing bewilderment, then it can be called magical. This bewilderment might lead to religion and other bizarre belief systems that only scratch the surface. There’s still mystery in science btw. Gravity is borderline magic we just don’t use the word.
>magic doesn’t exist in lord of the rings Fuck off
>>97986749>Magic is too silly of a word, let's make up some extra silly mumbo-jumbo vocab instead
>>97986766You missed the point because your IQ is in the double digits. Magic is a point of subjective perception. A bar. It’s higher or lower for some. Different for others. That’s the point. It’s relative not literal. It’s a position. Just like ignorance and wonder and taking things for granted.
>Yet another arguing about mundane magic or whatever the fuckHey guys cyoas are cool right?
>>97986771The difference is that those random ass scientific labels are referring to very specific things, while magic as a word, like science, is pretty damn ubiquitous, overall. Fire magic is magic. Ice magic is magic. Demon summoning is magic. They are also all science if they work at all.
>>97986738>You’ve created an altogether different meaning for the word, thenYes, he has hasn't he?Isn't that the point?The thing he is saying?To the people of this world, magic is what a wizard can teach you, sorcery is a material goodIf people in this world have multiple words for different types of fighting, different types of metallurgy, and different types of leadershipIf magic was real and touchable, and therefore more definable then in this world, why wouldn't it have linguistic classes?
>>97986778>To the people of this world, magic is what a wizard can teach you, sorcery is a material goodCool. Just don’t be upset if your neighbours have a completely different set of positions. A wizard to them might be a sorcerer to you. Or it might just be “witchcraft” or “heresy” as a lumped term. Kind of like how the Greeks saw the Zoroastrian priests as magicians, while the Zoroastrians were just tending to their fires and knew things about the world.
>>97986778>If magic was real and touchable, and therefore more definable than in this world, why wouldn't it have linguistic classes?>if magic was real This right here is why you’re missing the point. Magic isn’t even real in fiction once you realize it’s just a point of perception. Even wibbly wobbly woo will hypothetically be analyzed as just aspect of reality by some hypothetical higher dimensional alien. Even the most magical seeming thing might not see itself as magic. Does magic see itself as magic? >and touchableNature is real and touchable. It’s all science. We don’t pretend that biology or chemistry isn’t science. The closest thing to magic being a substance is the brain chemistry going “wow”. Does God see his miracles as miraculous? Ask yourself that.
>>97986784Either they have a different, unspecified language, or everyone in the world speaks common and we never comment on it
>>97986778>To the people of this world, magic is what a wizard can teach you, sorcery is a material goodA material good? You know that those devices of the old Greeks were considered the stuff of wizards, right? Materialism is why the wizard trope even came to be. All their funny gadgetry and assortment of tools. Laboratories and tower orreries. Are you saying sorcery is the product of wizardry?
>>97986790>Magic isn’t even real in fictionNo, it isUnder my definition of magic it very much is>Nature is real and touchableYes, quiteAnd we have different terms for farmers and ranchers and lumberjacks and gardeners, because they interact with nature in different ways>Does God see his miracles as miraculous?God isn't real, and being a fiction we may simply define him either way
>>97986749The clueless commoner in my setting sees a Daemon with the domain of space, responsible for important functions in maintaining the simulation's spatial coordinate integrity, teleport from one place to another. They wrongly call it "space magic" (the source code included as part of the Daemon's code simply allows it to teleport instantly by manually changing its position variables)The learned mage understands that teleportation magic requires complex rituals, incantations, or movements (to set up a wrongwarp glitch, though the mage is unaware of this), and concludes that the Daemon's instant and effortless teleportation could only be sorcery inherent to that DaemonA developer, or perhaps a mage who knows too much, fully understands the differences between these two kinds of supernatural abilities in the context of the simulated world. A developer might just call the Daemon's abilities "functions" and a mage's teleportation "glitches", if they didn't feel like playing along with the simulated world's established vocabNobody in my setting really needs any more vocabulary than that. The logic feels internally consistent; I don't think there's a good reason to bog things down with more complex distinctions
>>97986801>No, it isSubjective. >Under my definition of magic it very much isCool. To the alien who can breach fictions and analyze your magic inside and out it’s no longer magic to the alien. Their idea of magic is totally transcendent to your own. Anything they can’t do doesn’t reside in our three dimensions. They can do and understand anything here. Unless you go an argue “no it is impossible to understand and analyze always”, in which case, lol. This just goes back to magic being about mystery than substance. This is something Tolkien talked about in his letters. There is the substance of magic, and the perception of magic. Without the latter, the former isn’t seen as magic. The fire a wizard conjures is still fire. It’s how they go about it that’s magic. Although it might not be magic to them (“it’s just what I can do”).
>>97986803>The logic feels internally consistent; I don't think there's a good reason to bog things down with more complex distinctionsIt sounds like you don’t understand wizards at all. That’s all wizards do. Their perceptions are not their onlookers perceptions.
>>97986803>The learned mage understands that teleportation magic requires complex rituals, incantations, or movementsA scientist knows that using the alien ray gun requires pressing the weird buttons and shaking it in odd ways.
>>97986608Remember why he says this.
>>97986803Glitches don’t have function? You can’t make functional things using glitches? You should play that After the Fall CYOA by Hali. There’s external science and internal abilities, but it’s all the same shit at the end of the day once you realize that external science is what creates the thing that allows people to have innate abilities. Mad scientists use machines to create their supermen. They might even step into the machine themselves.
A wizard would question why their circles do anything at all. Not why it looks like magic. They’d wonder WHY saying “woo woo” causes a thing to happen, and nothing else. Jesus Christ. You fucks are so dumb. It’s like you assume wizards aren’t smart people. That they don’t use logic.
If glitches in the simulation can be found and abused then they aren’t really glitches more than just another resource to tap into :^)
>>97986850>Not why it looks like magicThey might question why it looks and works so arbitrarily and conditionally though.
>>97986819Well, I'm not calling them wizards, for one...they're mages. And I'm not exactly trying to copy existing magic systems word-for-word either.At the end of the day, I'm using the magic and sorcery distinction as worldbuilding to flesh out the "simulation" aspect of the setting and give it a bit more depth. It started with the fun idea "hey, my setting is a simulation, so what if the magic was all glitches in that simulation?" and evolved from there>>97986828I'm not even really sure what point you're making here. Are we fighting...? I'm really not sure why people are getting so heated and argumentative over my CYOA's setting...>>97986840You absolutely can use magic functionally. Mages can teleport too, just by using wrongwarps instead, among various other glitches (item duplication, texture culling illusions, etc. I haven't quite figured out the exact logic for how fireballs and whatnot are supposed to be explained yet though...). Magic is more complex and difficult than sorcery, but has a much greater ceiling. Consider a dev menu that you can use to instantly give yourself any item in the game, versus complicated glitch setups that you could use to explore impossible glitch worlds, or run a game of Snake in Super Mario World. The former is easier, the latter is slow and very difficult, but nearly limitless
>>97986866True. If it comes from the fingers and has floating runic circles around your wrists then it’s basically a video game. Nature isn’t that considerate or gay. It would not shape itself like a JRPG. Nature is not a weeb and it doesn’t read the Dresden Files.
>>97986874Maybe the devs were weebs and that's why all the CYOA's characters are in anime style
>>97986867Saying magic isn’t sorcery and sorcery isn’t magic is kind of weird when they’re, again, rather ubiquitous for “things that I don’t understand”. Maybe they evolved differently in your world, but from a reader’s perspective it’s a bit weird. This implies one isn’t actually about mystery, or, well, magical.
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>>97986867Magic should absorb sorcery. If mages can’t create innately magical things like artifacts or, yes, sorcerers, then this is just stupid. In d&d sufficiently powerful mages can produce sorcerer kids, or even function as patrons for warlocks.
>>97986867>"hey, my setting is a simulation, so what if the magic was all glitches in that simulation?" and evolved from thereI’d argue that glitchy magic would be better than the simulation as simulated, since this could be akin to the developer or programmer intentionally throwing in cheats into the simulation. “It doesn’t normally work this way, buuuut”. If it’s unintentional then this is just akin to finding a fantastic loophole. But it’s only a glitch in regards to the intent of the simulation. If it’s allowed…
>nooo you can’t break the sound barrier that’s a glitch in the physics nooo that’s so unfair nooo
>>97986916If existence is a simulation, the intent was for us to have the capacity to break the sound barrier. If we can do things that the simulators didn’t anticipate, it’s still nonetheless ALLOWED, and it might not actually be a glitch from our perspective, if those in the simulation are none the wiser and see it as just another aspect of reality. >>97986867>It started with the fun idea "hey, my setting is a simulation, so what if the magic was all glitches in that simulation?" and evolved from thereDo they know it’s a simulation, though? If that’s the case, then the people are free to have semantic arguments, assuming they have memories and context of the world beyond, the origin of words, etc.
Aliens killed the dinosaurs. They wanted us to find the ‘black blood of the earth’.
>>97986894They can probably summon forest creatures too. Should magic absorb animal husbandry?
>>97986936Oil is mostly plankton.
>>97986942They killed the plankton too.
>>97986885I guess. From my perspective, the player being dropped into the world, starting with only the vague distinction between the two terms, and only coming to understand as they get a bigger picture understanding of the overall setting, is a feature of the CYOA, not a bug>>97986894"Sorcerers" specifically isn't really a term in use in the setting. Certain individuals, Daemons, have specific, narrow-range sorcery in the scope of the domain they service (time Daemon gets time sorcery, to manage the system's time and keep it flowing, for example. Sort of analogous to a computer's time broker process). A species of fire lion might be programmed to have a perpetually flaming mane, in defiance of the normal simulation physics, which would also qualify as sorcery. An island might be programmed to float in the sky, which would be sorcery (no mage, incantations, or runes keeping it afloat, it just does that because it's programmed to, and thus could be determined by natives to be sorcery). But it's not a "class", and there's not really anybody running around calling themselves "sorcerors">>97986929>Do they know it’s a simulation, though?Broadly, no. There are rare exceptions and special cases.
>>97986939That would be a form of animal husbandry. Technically. Yes. Magic is anything amazing, after all. “I can literally talk to sheep I am so fucking good at being a shepherd”.
>>97986952So how do they know it’s a glitch? Seems like it’s just an opinion. “That ain’t natural” is an opinion. Magic being seen as something unnatural or beyond nature is also a very recent thing, or a lot less intimate than it used to be (nature used to be an expression of the gods) and goes back to the semantic word wars of the Church, and even THEY argued that God was supernatural, which is a word Christians don’t want you to use today to describe God. Same as how Christians today see the spiritual as higher or something different from the material, when the actual alchemists didn’t see it that way. The spiritual WAS material to them. They saw the soul as possible to transmute just as gold was. “No it’s bigger and better” has always been the funniest part about magic and religion. Once you see the irony.
>>97986974I assume the two magic systems handle completely differently, and the feature/bug distinction is just the world building reason behind that rather than how they're referred to in-setting.
>>97986974>So how do they know it’s a glitchThe natives broadly don't.A non-magical native defines both magic and sorcery as "that ain't natural" and doesn't really know or care about the distinction between the two.A magically proficient native who values semantics defines magic as a category of learned techniques, incantations, inscriptions, and so on, that with care, can subvert the normal rules of reality. They define sorcery as something that can also subvert the normal rules of reality, but which is inherent and cannot be learned, is easier to use and more immediately powerful, but much narrower in scope than magic, and which requires no complex movements/incantations/etc.A dev or a very rare native who knows too much defines magic as bugs and sorcery as features.
>>97987000I don't know what you took for inspiration but that's literally just dnd.To the point that people will say it's trite and unoriginal. (It's also associated with midwits that think dnd is fantasy 'canon', like saying a dragon with four limbs is a wyvern.)
>>97987030DnD takes place in a simulation? I'll admit that I've never played but I always assumed it was typical fantasy
>>97986997>>97987000Okay. You should make it apparent that the player knows something that the natives don’t. The whole point of magic is curtains behind veils. A ladder where everyone is on lower or higher footing. It could be a chain reaction of ignorance, even. Consider A Song of Ice and Fire. Believers > Onlookers > Priests > People sending the visions (the red god could be a trolling wizard sending visions to priests as the books suggest, like the green seers for the old gods) > ??? (we don’t know enough beyond this point; all this magic crap could be the leftover of some alien lovecraftian interjection in the primeval past)
>I don't know what you took for inspiration but that's literally just dnd.This. Someone who isn’t stupid from irl (even someone who doesn’t know what DnD is) would immediately recognize that the world is basically a video game. This is why for magic to work like in myth it’s just too silly for it not to be a part of a game of sorts. All religion comes across as a game or narrative that people agree to be a part of subconsciously.
I'm going to bed now. Tell Me if You understand what these rules are trying to say.
>>97987030>>97987032Specifically my inspiration here was just connecting the word "sorcery" to "source code" and conceptualizing sorcery as a kind of magic intentionally included by the programmers, as opposed to the unintended, glitchy nature of normal magic>>97987034I already have a very good idea of how this knowledge will affect the setting
>>97987041Are these traits I pick addative to my personality or representative?Other then that, it sounds like we all get traits and they can't overlap, but I may have traits outside of the cyoa interface that do overlap
>>97987034The magic of the red priests is (usually) just fancy alchemical tricks that comes across as legit magic to the faithful but is more so fanciful paltry magic to the red priests. Even wildfire is seen as lesser to conjuring legitimate fire (although as a substance it’s still magical and does things normal fire can’t). Seems to be how you go about the magic that makes it legit. Even resorting to legit magic for a magic trick is seen as lesser (Thoros used wildfire on his sword before he could light it himself).
>>97987042So it’s literally just a soft pun. Okay. This is just like in Divinity Original Sin. “Dood the SOURCE, it’s like SOURCEry, get it??”. I want to slap you.
>>97987039>would immediately recognize that the world is basically a video game.Well, yeah, that's part of the foreshadowing. "The world is a simulation" is just one part of the setting's surprises, and it's the part that's intended for semi-alert players to deduce before it's actually spelled out in the CYOA. Other surprises will be more, well, surprisingBut genuinely, does DnD's setting also have the "the world is a computer program" aspect? I'm actually asking, because I don't know.
>>97987042>a kind of magic intentionally included by the programmers, as opposed to the unintended, glitchy nature of normal magicStill seems like magic to me. Just one is more magical than the other. By more magical I mean it can do more. There will always be a further frontier in anything.
>>97987049Don't do it I'll moan
staph engaging her :(
>>97987041There seems to be a list of personality traits that you can pick for yourself and your companions, but may not double up on.You then mention "less extreme versions". I'd make clear you aren't talking about a mechanic.Say "you may see yourself as having depths to your character not fully represented in this list of traits, even in ways that resemble personality traits given to other characters or simply not picked. The picked personality traits are simply the strongest ones, dictating how you come across to others."
>>97987053>does DnD's setting also have the "the world is a computer program" aspect?Depends on the writer and how they cope about it. Some assume it’s a part of a shared multiverse and people like Ed Greenwood has tea with Elminster and co. This is silly too since the origin point for the Forgotten Realms is in Ed’s head. In other settings it assumes it’s a game, quite explicitly. In the setting of Mystara for instance, the pinnacle of magic or godhood is recognizing that you’re just some pawn on a board. The gods and wizards are painfully ignorant about the nature of their world. If they weren’t, they would be trying to poke at their world the way irl humans would. This is also why the Harpers exist. To keep the world stuck and stagnant forever. Invent a typewriter and you’re going to get assassinated. You WILL abide by the conditional physics and you WON’T be TOO innovational. There are many inside jokes to reinforce the stupid logic of Dee en Dee.
>>97987058I really did not think this aspect of my CYOA's setting would be so contentious, and I am sorry if it struck a nerve here for some reason. Sincerely.I don't actually /understand/ why it's causing contention exactly, but I do genuinely think the system is cool in my setting and I hope it's enjoyable to play through
The Harpers are awful btw
A wizard invented a gun? Time to fucking murder him.
>>97987072There's no contention, just two people that think the other doesn't get what they're trying to say and feeling the need to endlessly clarify themselves.This is a common problem on 4chan.Break the cycle. Make a build for witchmaster.
>>97987076>>97987084Why don’t the intellectuals of the world band together to destroy this piece of shit anti progression terrorist faction?
>>97987072No, it's not you it's herShe does this frequently, with little or no reasoningShe also isn't actuallly part of the community and doesn't play cyoa's. She just comes here to lose arguements about meta-fiction and linguistics
>>97985367You do Dog's work. Dogspeed, pollanon.
>>97987089Because the gods are also ignorant pieces of shit who support the Harpers and don’t actually want to see televisions being made (the gods probably don’t even know what a television is FFS) because Ao is a simp for beings beyond the fourth wall.
The developer made a spell to start fires you don’t need flint and tinder and if I see you trying to make fires any other way I’ll fucking soul steal you.
Plate armor will be the standard in war for 2,000+ years. Sorry this is how it is from now on.
>>97987089The vast majority of the gods support the Harpers. One of the gnome gods, Gond, has even specifically rendered gunpowder impossible to use to stop mortals from getting too uppity.
Also everyone speaks English. Even if they’re not!Chinese from not!China they speak English with a not!Chinese accent.
>>97987072It's not, you're just talking to a notorious shitposter with an ego the size of the moon and a brain the size of a walnut.
>>97986594Depends on the story, but cosmologically entwined magic system is definitely more fun to learn about.
>>97987112>One of the gnome gods, Gond, has even specifically rendered gunpowder impossible to use to stop mortals from getting too uppity.Jesus Christ it’s just three things. Charcoal, sulphur and saltpetre, all of which are mentioned at one point or another.Gnomes are pro science aren’t they? They need to kill their god.
>>97986594Magic is usually some additional fork of physics stapled on top of what we know. Glowing blue goo usually. >Is electricity just a real-life magic system?Benjamin Franklin was called a wizard at numerous points in time for this ability to conquer lightning.
Remember that time humans got too powerful with magic made a literal floating continent of magic and almost blew up the world? So the gods made it impossible for them to cast 10th level spells? Only elves can cast 10th level spells now… Elves don’t get punished because they’re worse in creative matters and don’t try to blow up the world.
>>97987085There's at least 3 parts of this conversation, I'm pretty sure. I'm the one talking about my setting, and some of the replies to that were also (apparently) getting replies from other people who aren't me. Assuming 3 people ( and it could be more), it's pretty close to a 33%/33%/33% split>>97987115>>97987090I will admit that I'm not up-to-date on the "matterjeet" phenomenon but my very limited understanding through osmosis was that she talks a lot about physics and is anti-magic or something, so I thought it was an accusation that I was her because of my "magic is glitches" setting. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Anyways, sleepy time now; hopefully less contention regarding this setting when my CYOA eventually releases. G'night
>>97987137Wrong. You’re falling prey to their detractors. Matter fag loves magic. They just hate when people try to isolate it. They follow Tolkien’s perspective that magic is whatever the fuck it appears to be at the time and place.
Elves are like the Chinese. They thrive for so long but they don’t actually do anything.
>>97987151They don’t shake the boat. Societally speaking they unite well and stick to a given path or trajectory, be it long running prosperity, or the bloodiest of wars imaginable.
If nobody but China existed the world would have been a lot more mellow in terms of development
>>97987162>mellowTheir wars were anything but mellow, thobeit. Just gotta hope you aren’t born in any transitional period.
If nobody but China existed the world would have been a lot more hellish in terms of development
>>97987205We didn’t need guns retard. They ruined everything. The Chinese were smart to delay the invention of blackpowder for so long.
>>97987205That gif is funny because of how true it is
>>97987211Gunpowder is the king of weapons, vastly martially and aesthetically superior to swords, spears, axes, bows, any instrument (You) care to name; this is proven by how no other weapon can hope to compete. Even a poor farmer who just picked up a musket can slay a veteran knight who spent decades training. That is how supremely powerful gunpowder is.
>>97987137They have a highschool understanding of physics and a jewish understanding of magic
>>97987223You come across as just coping ngl.
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>>97987599>TEMPORAL AFFINITYWhy are authors like this? It's better to play the cyoa while pretending this option simply doesn't exist.
>>97987137I personally like your idea anon and would love to see it implemented in a cyoa. Don't listen to the matterqueer, she hates cyoas and creativity.
>>97987665it's the compulsory powerfag option but it also takes away all your points so you can't even enjoy the rest of the cyoa
>>97987720>powerfag taxShit cyoa then.
>>97987592What are the consequences of using Shadow on an immediate family member that you live with?That option is spooky to think about.
>>97984689You litertally admited to it years ago, female hyhena's have a "pseudo-penis"
>>97987777kinda crazy how big-G upstairs straight up made futa real but only for hyenas
>>97979574>"you should use the html version instead">use html version>doesn't work
>>97986083Magic is only "geolocked" on the macro scale (in terms of hereditary !genetics), it also doesent affect martial arts any.
>>97986396cithis my beloved
>>97987777is this like how hyeanon is definitely black also?
>>97986396Who is 2nd row 3rd column?
>>97986336In the cyoa? It just unlocks more spells iirc. In setting? Its basically essentially to any proper magic and is what makes a mage a mage. Magic is enabled by special !nerves (magic circuits) which allow a mage to cast stuff. a magic crest is a big collection of circuits that comes pre-packed with the ability to do certain spells. It gets passed down the family of mages and gets bigger the older it is since each mage improves it. Without a crest a mage is basically worthless.
Anything else I should add?
>>97987974One of the canaries probably.
>>97986396#4 is what fem Italics would look like
>>97988087Italics is fuckable like that?
>>97983708>>97987975So the Kabbalah countermagic is basically useless against all established blooline mages? Its says that its weak against older magecraft and since we're a nobody noob mage that's basically everyone with a name.
>>97988149I read older magecraft as talking about the type of magic, so as long as the type of magic you are trying to counter is younger than Kabbalah it shouldn't be weaken (not taking anything else into account).
>>97988149I assume its "magic older than kaballah", since thats the foundation youre using.
>>97988231>>97988243What are some magics that are older than the Kabbalah?
>>97988287everything from the age of the gods for a start
>>97988114Yes, obviously?
>>97987980I don´t get rim touched. The guy found unclaimed land and made his own personal haven, and other conduits come around to mess it up just because?Also would be nice to know more exact numbers.By the sound of prime earth, you would think there were a couple hundred conduits or so.
>>97985367>>97985386Wait. Choices? That determine you adventure? Why are these polls not presented as a cyoa?
>>97988287Most of asia uses thought magecraft, which was passed down from the age of the gods.
>>97985191The Forged is great if you want to get into lots of fight, and spend your free time training for the next fight.
>>97987067>>97987104So there's no developers or anything in my setting who actually work to prevent new developments, and no active force "separating" magic and sorcery. They're just different words that refer to different kinds of supernatural phenomena within the settingSome of the natives who know too much /are/ working to prevent others from learning about the "world is a simulation" deal specifically, because the knowledge would cause mass chaos. But these people aren't gods or anything and are fallible, and they don't really care much what you do as long as you don't close in on that factBut nobody's going to stop you from inventing a typewriter or a computer (other than, like, the world's available resources and logistics networks and whatnot), and a mage would call these neither magic nor sorcery, since if you take the time to understand how they work, they follow all the world's normal physical principles and don't contradict anything
>>97987112>>97987096>>97987089>>97987084>>97987076Forgotten Realms has always had this insufferable background vibe of being a failed novelist's pet project that has all the interesting stuff bolted down to insure it always is more story than playground.The Known World/Mystara has its problems but it's from the ground up designed for players to take charge and change things. It's a game, not a cutscene in text form.
>>97988386I just kinda assumed that if one guy conquered an Earth, the other conduits would have a problem with it. That's their alternate selves, and a lot of resources.Maybe I misjudged.How would you respond?
>>97988287Kabbalah is from the 13th century, so "quite a lot of things" actually.
>>97988772There are countless earths, only prime earth (ours) matter anyways cause that´s where the awakening occured.Wouldn´t say you misjudged, people always want what someone else has. It just sounds far-fetched that a war would break out between near immortals over just one alternate world. Maybe try a more subtle approach, like moles and sabotage. To try and wrangle control over another established power etc, without the disrupting nature of an all out war.
Give me a cyoa where I get unlimited sex, food and water.
>>97989025no. you will die without truth.
>>97989025irl if you were lucky enough to be born wealthy
>>97988987In the cyoa it was created by Solomon and he's definitely not from the 13th century you pedantic retard.
>>97989025>unlimited sex, food and waterIf I was a genie I would fulfill your request by sending you into a BDSM dimension where you'll a nutrition tube stuffed down your throat while your getting ass raped for eternity by ugly fat pig demons.
>>97989025What about immortality don't you want to live forever?
Testing to see if this works. Work progresses on the elden ring cyoa
>>97989025Good on you for specifying water. Wouldn't want to get caught in a genie's wish gone wrong.
>>97989025If I were a genie I would fuck the shit out of you and then give you vaguely what you wanted
>>97989025If I was a genie I would turn you into a sexy femboy and have romantic sex with you daily as I take care of your needs.
>>97989251I better be able to save my friends and become elden lord.
>>97989251Can I fix Marika with my tarnished cock, yes or no? My interest depends on your answer.
>>97987067>Some assume it’s a part of a shared multiverse and people like Ed Greenwood has tea with Elminster and co. This is silly too since the origin point for the Forgotten Realms is in Ed’s head.You never read Dragon magazine, did you? There's a series of articles where Elminster, Mordekainen , and Dalamar would throw parties at his house, while Greenwood would hide in the closet and take notes.(The series of articles was known as the "Wizards Three".)
>>97989323marika is dead bro
>>97989025your new form and home (not pictured: your perpetually horny hamster partner)
>>97989340Just incapacitated. You can bring her back in the standard ending.
>>97989313Would it be a fromsoft game if you couldn't indulge in some Jolly cooperation?>>97989323Only one emperean remains, Merika's as dead as the Beast that empowered her
>>97987053>But genuinely, does DnD's setting also have the "the world is a computer program" aspect? I'm actually asking, because I don't know.I haven't kept up with the post-Hasbro version of the game, but definitely not in the old days. Up through 2nd edition, it was very much a Tolkien-inspired set of sword-and-sorcery settings.*Dragonlance - be a hero/villain in the middle of a war of the gods.*Known World/Mystars - adventure in a not-at-all-Tolkien ripoff*Dark Sun - Post (fantasy) apocalypse setting where you adventure in a devastated world*Forgotten Realms - adventure in a high fantasy setting dripping in magic! If you're bored, you can go visit the Arabian Nights continent (Al-Qadim) or roleplay the exploration/conquest of the Americas (Maztica)*Ravenloft - sword-and-sorcery against horror movie tropes*Spelljammer - fantasy pirates in space!*Birthright - swords-and-sorcery meets Game of Thrones*Council of Wyrms - let's be dragon adventurers!*Masque of the Red Death - Do sword-and-Sorcery tropes work in Victorian London*Planescape - let's do dungeon crawls on other planes of existence!Video game mechanics, or gaining power through the System, is more a LitRPG trope.
>>97989025If I were a genie I'd trap you in a 60 mile/90 kilometer pocket dimension full of tranquil rivers, fat cattle, fruit trees, random marble structures, and libidinous elf women desperate for the touch of a human man.
>>97989350the fuck you can.you put the head back on but she's still fairly deadEspecially after you kick radagon's ass
>>97989251What are you gonna do with my Wife Ranni and daughter Revenant?
>>97989251You better make the Snake COOL and IMPORTANT.
>>97989423You can find a quest item at the Cathedral of Manus Celes, in Lunaria of the Lakes:The Burned Doll: A broken husk is all that remains. Betrothed to a Lord who must have loved the Flame more than she who would bring about a cold age. Linked as they were, they burned together
>>97989452In the combat system where max HP tops out around 300 for the player character, the snake has 10,000.
>>97989461Yes! That's the spirit!
>>97989454>Betrothed to a Lord who must have loved the Flame more than she who would bring about a cold ageDropped, don't waste time making your dogshit cyoa any more.
I haven't played or even looked at a cyoa for so long that I can't even remember how to make cyoas, all my WIPs are started by never get past the first few basic choices, why isn't anyone making cyoas I want to play?
>>97989396I'd take that deal tbqh
>>97989454>>97989473Dollfags FILTERED
>>97989482Because we all hate you.
>>97988650>Forgotten Realms has always had this insufferable background vibe of being a failed novelist's pet project that has all the interesting stuff bolted down to insure it always is more story than playground.That was kind of my thought about Rifts, by Palladium. Well, that, and they couldn't decide between making a pen-and-paper rpg or a minatures war game, and split the difference.(Some of the character and racial classes are SO not balanced. "I can make herbal teas that offer a slight stat boost" vs. "I can one-shot a dragon from ten miles away".)But yeah. Never releasing the supplement books for the "good guy" factions like Lazlo. Releasing supplement books where the players explicitly can't meet or interact with any of the key figures or events. Introducing villains (like A.R.C.H.I.E. the AI) where you'd have to blow up half a continent to actually stop them . . .There were some very cool ideas - I loved the ideas in the Atlantis/Splynn and England worldbooks. But yeah - if you actually wanted to run a long term game in the setting, the game master would have to go very, very rogue at some point.
>>97989482Only (You) know the shape of the soul that is (You). Everyone else is blindly fumbling in the dark.
>>97989394I'm not doing the video game mechanics or "stats" stuff with my system. Except maybe as like a throwaway joke. One choice includes the line "this character has +50 bonus charisma against you personally" as a silly, fun way to illustrate what selecting the choice does, but there isn't an actual real "charisma stat" integrated into the world. There's no "level ups" or video game "class system" or anything. The glitch magic thing is probably the most far-reaching consequence that the world being simulated has on its setting
>>97989521What's so extremely DnD-esque is defining "sorcery" as a specifically innate form of magic, as opposed to magic from book learning.
>>97989531I don't see what the problem is. Glitch magicians are going to want to differentiate their hard work from random entities' innate powers, and sorcery is as good a word for it as any.
>>97989531I guess, but I think I'm fine with it if that's the main overlap, since things seem to diverge pretty hard after that.If anything, it can work if my favor if people see it and just dismiss it as a DnD clone, and then get surprised later on when my CYOA goes in an entirely different direction
>>97989494The main thing I remember about Rifts was the megadice, and how stupid I felt that was. I found a class that threw normal dice against normal and megadice against megas. Specifically killed the DM's clear OC donut steal and got kicked from the group. It was a dysfunctional dynamic and the game was gonna blow up anyway. Much Like rifts as a setting.
>>97989531>What's so extremely DnD-esque is defining "sorcery" as a specifically innate form of magic, as opposed to magic from book learning.Modern D&D only. Pre-Hasbro there was only wizard magic or clerical, and everything else was semantics. Maybe psionics, if you had a tolerant DM and the right books.
>They're still arguing with the pedanticpseud.Wow you guys are actually restarded.
>he masturbates to cyoas
>>97989569This discussion is about the similarity to DnD though, not about the definition of magic in a vacuum.
>>97989583Not since tok stopped making cyoas
>>97989557I also don't include clerics in my setting, for what it's worth. Healing magic is simply a specialization of magic, not drawing from a god's power or anything. Organized religion gives me the ick
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>>97989483It's not a bad deal, per se. The landscape is beautiful, resources are abundant, and there's plenty to discover, but at the same time, you lose your human connection. No more pizzas, no more bullshitting with your friends on a saturday night, no more internet CYOAs or vidya or memes. Instead it's a bowl of juicy oranges, frogs croaking by a rippling stream, and a couple of smiling elf women fondling your balls while they murmur and giggle at each other in a singsong language you don't understand and would need decades to learn. Is serene nature and primitive luxury worth the loss of the manifold experiences to be found in your glowing screen and your fellow anons? I would say yes, but it would be with a heavy heart I abandoned (You) all.
>>97989786I'd teach the elf girls about traditional games.They'd go along with it because they're desperate to get me to like them.
>>97989814she doesn't look like she would whip me for the crime of being a filthy moid2/10 dark elf
>>97989454i will fix the doll
>>97990072How? I am being serious. A good enough answer will make it into the CYOA. Long and short of the setting: Frenzied Flame ending, after 99.9% the game, only not purging it. It's my own run, I threw myself into the crucible.
>>97989536>I don’t see what the problem is—"Okay guys, we've finally arrived at the villain’s evil lair, which appears to be filled with evil spooky magic stuff."—“What foul sorcery is this?”—“Um, ackchyually, the enemy identifies as a Wizard, so it would be ‘What WIZARDRY is this’, you bigot. Respect their profession.”—“What the fuck. It’s evil and heretical and demonic and I don’t like it. Therefore witchcraft.”—“Ackchyually, a Witch is a female Warlock who makes Pacts with-“—“Please shut the fuck up before I fucking murder you…”
>>97990083probably by finding scraps of doll making and maintenance and resources for it from moon/night/whatever aligned places. There might be something left in those kinds of places to put something back together as they liked playing with dolls far as i remember... As for the former passanger of the doll that i have no solution
>>97989454Wait, so no age of stars? Are you serious lol?
>>97990134Naught but a doll carver then, you doll craver.>>97990141Water cleanses. Fire purifies.
>>97989786>human connectionWe're here to escape it with fantasy worlds
>>97990188I admit i am a mere unambitious doll craver who read there was a doll i could fix to have a doll yet didn't immediatly notice who that doll was haha. If some other anon who actually has ambitions to throw stars at the fire then they should try.
>>97990232You've at least earned a spot in the fort, what is they name, Doll Carver? [Doll Carver _______]
>>97987045>>97987063I've successfully written clear rules by the looks of it, thanks.
>>97989674how do I kill all four of them
It is very silly when someone uses a very universal term to refer to something very specific. Sorcery usually just means magic in general, or the practice of it. It’s not some innate thing.
>>97990429Usually, yesMy setting, where magic is simulation glitches, needed a separate term to describe "magic, but intended by the developers and not glitches". Sorcery seemed like the most fitting choice for this purpose
>>97990363A name? Hmm names are hard...How about Coram?
>>97990560As you will, [Doll Carver Coram].If only I had been so judicious earlier, as you said names are hard. My boss creation has stalled out as I need to think appropriate names for most of them.
>>97990571Good luck with it Anon
>>97986431When translating different words into english they kind of have to pick something. There are plenty of words in japanese that do have more specific meanings. A distinction I have seen a few times is between maho(魔法) which is a pretty basic term for magic in general, and majutsu(魔術) which would be more like magic technique and tends to get translated as sorcery. Majutsu implies a general understanding of how it works with a developed system, as where maho is all inclusive but only useful and thus used for things that function outside that developed system. Though in fantasy works they tend to stay away from words like jujutsu(呪術), because while it is also a word for a more developed system of magic, it has different connotations than what people typically think of for fantasy.
>>97990761>jujutsuyou mean JUJUTSU KAISEN? YOU ARE MY SPECIAL?
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>>97989583I masturbate to cyoa builds to be exact.
>>97990825Jane...you're early...
>>97990571...I feel like i've been robbed given my own proclivities towards dolls and the automata of elden ring among other kinds of animated creations in various media, But oh well, Its just what i get for not being on here enough i guess, Besides maybe its better im not in a setting thats yaknow burning around my ears, Will admit im still interested in what will be come up with for Doll Carver Coram
>>97990920Try your luck, you could become Doll Carver Carver.
>>97990952Rather than carving up doll carvers id rather be carving dolls alongside them, or golems that works two i guess, Although both would be better, hmmm although i guess it could be interesting if the cyoa includes skills for making dolls and golems and i just take those and work to fix this world that has gone to the torchOh yeah albinaurics two cant forget about those guys, and gals, Especially the gals as i do really like Latenna, and Roderika, People be focusing on Melina and Ranni i be focusing in on Latenna and Roderika, Theres also Rennala but she probably wouldnt care for such advancesSo ye i guess im gonna just play this and hopefully theres golem/doll/albinauric crafting stuff to play around with, Maybe a build like what the revenant was supposed to be a spirit summoner of sorts could be nice or some equivalent
>>97991012I'm mostly following the abilities from the games themselves. I have an idea of making this system int act like replacements for companions, if you don't necessarily meet their qualifications. What would your name be [Animator _________] ? What I'm building is a very non-traditional cyoa.
>>97991268How long were you lurking before you started?
>>97991268Rebis, Yes as in the alchemical Rebis, Why not, Lets see, Make them someone who dabbles in alot of things and also fusing things alchemically like golden sap and glintstone crystals as they seek knowledge to fix things like the world at large and souls and finish what was left undone with the albinaurics and dragonkin, I can give more if you want it but i think the threads about to end
>>97991470Like started making cyoas? I've been here for decades. On and off, only recently started checking it daily.>>97991476I've got it, the world's degenerated greatly, Animator Rebis, but in your alchemy perhaps a strange kind of hope can be found.
>>97991571>>97991470To clarify, I only started making cyoas and being here every day about a month ago. I have been on 4chan since I could catch an age ban in the 00's. I don't remember if there was a dedicated thread back then, probably not, but I remember choosing a colored knight.
>>97991571One can only hope, Even if the world has been burned to ash, Maybe through alchemy using all the worlds knowledge we can build a new one, Fusing sorcery and miracles and creating new life of Silver and Ice-LightningI can give some more ideas for the character like their loadout and fighting style but its like rather late where i am so itd have to wait till the next thread and till tomorrow, Also only now realizing maybe you want to come up with all that stuff yourself, shit i maybe shoulda kept my mouth shut
>>97991599You're good. The bosses have already been handed out, you're a recruitable NPC, buddy.
>>97991604Eh that works
I want you to go to whoever made the new thread and insult them for doing it wrong.
New thread with the title right:>>97992388>>97992388>>97992388Go hog mild
