/bgg/ Board Games GeneralPrevious thread: >>97938367Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/h8Tz2ze8*NEWISH* survey results:https://pastebin.com/scAkFdTv>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?>what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?
>>97980464>>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?jconrobert redfordtoshiro mifuneklask 4
>>97980464>you can pick 3 famous peoplesteev his wife and the guy who used WASD for controls. we're playing stab a motherfucker.>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?I've been keeping my eye out for Space Base.>what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?today I played abalone, skip-bo, kings gold and mille bournes. I don't know why my family can't be into real games but at least it wasn't uno for once.>>97980486>robert redfordyou could have had Jeremiah Johnson and yet you chose the actor
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>>97980464>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?Churchill, FDR, Stalin>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?I've been thinking of getting a set of poker chips to use in place of paper money slips>what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?It's a busy week so mostly little solo games like The Last Lighthouse and Mint Works
>>97980464Gorbachev just so I can say >Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall while playing the card in twilight struggle.I'm going to buy pax ren coinsPax ren and targi. This weekend idk
>>97981137Presumably you'll just let them play Churchill and not participate yourself
>>97980464>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?zoe quinn, alex jones and filthy frank, we play cockroach poker>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?help me decide anons, what do i break my streak with on the holiday season?>what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?for both: piña coladice, can't stop, cubitos, coloretto, shards of infinity, dale of merchants, not alone and war of whispers
Is Tom's requirement for making a new expansion to always add some cracked out mode?
>>97982641To be honest if he just kept the original mechanisms and added more cards he’d just end up diluting the main deck which is very fine tuned. RftG is perfect as it is.
>>97980502Stop sucking tripcunt and namecunt cocks anon
>>97980464>>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?H.G. Wells, Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee. Fire in the Lake.>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?Wife wants to play Orapa Mine, so probably that.>what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?Played some Tzolkin this week, this weekend I won't have time, need to get some stuff done around the house and garden.
>>97980464>>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?Robin Williams, Todd McFarlane, and Sherman. We are playing Pax Pamir.
>>97982640>what do i break my streak withcome join us in the Racket Dice waiting roomit'll never bill, so you can scratch the consuming itch without actually breaking your streak
>>97983374>it'll never billbut what if it does? i'd be squandering all the effort so far, and handing control over my challenge to someone elsealthough i must admit the game looks interesting, i'm still joining the waiting room
>>97980464>>you can pick 3 famous people (dead or alive) for board game night. who are your picks and what are you playing?KasumiAyaneTinaWe'd play Twister>>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?Antiquity reprint in 2027>>what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?InnovationInnovation and Troyes
>>97982860Rftg is the most overrated game on bggIf it came out today no one would give a shit
>>97983713It's a good game it just looks like total ass because the art and graphic design are ancient. I'm surprised there hasn't been a modern makeover yet.
>>97983713That’s because it’s old enough to drink alcohol in non-retarded countries. It’s now drowned in the sea of its less successful copycats but after two decades of iterating on the idea, if you want pure engine building nothing still comes close to it.
>>97983713Naaah, it'd be less popular, but still very loved. Possibly even more popular initially because games have gotten more complex and RftG is very much a midweight game nowadays compared to when it came out. Art is shit though, so maybe it'd not make it out of niche status
Anyone here play Small World? Ive played it several times and it has high replayablity due to random race/class combos adding a lot of variety.
>>97983606>but what if it does?I mean if Calkins got tired of waiting and bankrolled the rest of the 500 and personally flew all the shit home from China on his private jet, it still wouldn't bill this year.
>>97980350I played my friend's prototype about 20 times. I don't know how to tell him I think his game sucks/spoiler]I also played Heat again after not playing in very long, I enjoy the game greatly but I always feel bad about the 2 guys that are behind by 1 corner and dom't seem to be able to ever catch up once they made a mistake.
>>97983792Funny, the artwork is the only thing I think is fine, but the UI is terrible
>>97984168I've never played it, mainly because I think the name is dumb
>>97984324What makes the prototype bad?I can't play heat...or slow paced car racing games in general. Play the canal era in brass, or go around this race track 1 time, when IRL it would only take a minute. Quest for el dorado neatly works around this because you can imagine the quest taking days or even weeks.
>>97984168Was one of my first exposures to modern boardgaming. I distinctly remember my sides going in orbit around "Bivouacing Elves". The name just sent me.Bought it later, was on constant rotation with my first game group. Then our exposure and tastes grew and it didnt hit the same anymore. May have been one of the first games I ever purged.Still not a bad game for kids or people new to the hobby that are not conflict averse peacenicks.
>>97984168Played it 3 player with a couple many years ago.The girl outright threatned her partner with the couch if he attacked her so the it devolved into a shitty 2vs1 session.They're naturally not together anymore.
>>97984401>What makes the prototype bad?"It's like Catan, but (...)" is the main problem. It's clear he hasn't played many different games but he's very happy about the entire process but I think this will not go anywhere.
I'm sad, should I pull the trigger on high frontier and some of the expansions?
>>97984894Yes
>>97984894No, because you'll never actually play it.Or worse, play it once and completely fall out of love with it as the potential fun you imagined crumbles under the weight of somewhat tedious gameplay, long downtimes and the general simulation over gameplay approach that sounds so appealing until you actually play the game. I suppose it might be played solo, the thought hadn't crossed my mind up until now.
>>97985138>long downtimesI won't be playing it with others. Not a relevant factor.
>>97980350I played at least one other game in April but I forget what it was.
>>97985306you like robots, don't you anon.you want to Clank them, don't you anon
>>97984894No, it’s autismo fuel and not in a good way. If you want the good space autism, try Leaving Earth
>>97984618>CatanOofPlay some more games with the poor sob.
>>97984894No, the expansions are ass. However, the base game with the quick start variant is very enjoyable.
I like going on BGG and playing people's prototypes and contest games. 1 in 10,000 get a publisher, rest are forgotten by history because they don't have mass market appeal.
>Mini leftover sleeves from Mushroom Sort are too small for VIVO
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>>97985724I warned you they were some weird Japanese size.
>>97985306Castles of Burgundy the card game is pretty ass, it just removes all of the decent parts of the game.Some good games in there, how tf do you play so much?What's Claim It!?
>>97986171>how tf do you play so much?Game nights every Friday. Game days most Saturdays. Games with family. And some digital play, mostly on Tabletop Simulator.>What's Claim It!?It's a push your luck dice game that's somewhat similar to Can't Stop. The object of the game is to claim the largest cluster of tiles on the map.
I am again glad to report that civolution is still going strong, one of the most underappreciated games of the last 5 years if you ask me
>civolution>derappreciatedHigh level shitpost
>>97986685I don't see it mentioned anywhere since a few months post-release, what are you talking about?
>>97986732>no one talks about MY game!
>>97986924No idea what your grudge is anon. Not really up for a shitposting battle atm
>>97984894It's a question you can only answer yourself anon. I pulled the trigger and dont regret it. I dont often get to play it now because 1.5 year old and another bun in the oven, but every time I see it on the shelf I want to play that fucker and I hear: >https://youtu.be/OYBC-r3Nj0U?si=aJAFPSmrTIlfl2NBPlaying in my head (I have the series from Bios: Genesis which contributes to that feeling.)Your plan to play it solo makes sense imo. I dont have someone I could table with. Maybe my brother but he'd probably be a bit lost. Maybe my kids one day!
>>97985630Largely disagree. I find modules 1 and 2 to be really good, pretty much mandatory along with module 0 for me. 3 I haven't played but seems a bit too convoluted. 4 I like the contracts and the new spaceborn colonists, but not the isotope monetisation, isobank or the whole exodus spaceship thing. I am indifferent on the promotions now requiring augmented colonists. Not done modules 5 or 6
What's /bgg/'s board game h-index? Mine is 11, so I own 11 games which I've played at least 11 times each
>>9798778529. Trying to get to 30, need to play some more Pax Ren or HansaT
>>97986677>>97986732It was all anyone talked about for a hot minute then people bought it, got played for 3 months then went MIA. I see lots of copies on FB and have seen it marked down online. I haven't played every Feld but I think it's easily the worst of them I have played. I don't think you can make a game that's supposed to be high strategy with lots of planning and have a dice roll mechanic limiting what you can do. Plus it was too long (our game of 4 was almost 4 hours) and ended up being a VP mill at the end of the game based on population. Ended up with some scripted starts that everyone has to take (the tech that gets you additional dice adjustments). Just didn't see the fun in it at all - if it was like 60-90 minutes, I might be humored to play it but never at 3-4 hours.
What do you do with your rulebooks? Do you:>store them on top of the box because that's where they were when you opened it?>store them on the bottom of the box because it's the flattest surface and you only rarely need them anyway?>throw them out because who needs that shit ever?
>>97988481I store them wherever they won't get banged up. Usually that's the top of the box above the game board. For games without main boards or a board assembled from interlocks, I often keep the rulebook at the bottom of the box. I can think of at least two games I own where I kept the sprues and use them as a buffer to protect the rulebook.
>>97988481I put them on top but below larger flat components so they help with pressing in and keeping things tidy and unmoved
>>97988481I cut them up and glue the most relevant paragraphs under the box cover.Rules passages like: "the person who last climbed a mountain goes first" and full page spreads of play examples that are brain dead obvious from a glimpse at rules text get tossed in the bin.
>>97988600>the person who last climbed a mountain goes firstMad because you're not the person who last sacrificed something.
>>9798778510 on BG stats, would go up to 15ish with all the unlogged games
>>97988638This is the stupid take of someone who never goes outside or does anything. All of these come from "youngest goes first" in shitty parker brothers tier games and all are equally fucking stupid. I'm the youngest, the last one to go camping, the last to climb a mountain, the last to garden and nothing will every change any of those in my group. my millenial apartment dwelling buds are never going to get a chance to garden for example and while I was up on pikes peak last month for someone who lived in the mudflats of Indiana mountains are a two day drive either way. They're all just fucking stupid you might as well put "last to be in a wheelchair", none of the insipidfirst player conditions will every change and it's neither creative nor difficult to make them up especially when game components can easily be used for the same purpose- but that requires some actual thought.inb4 "well they just put them in as a joke anon lighten up" retards
>>97987785I own more than 122 games few of which I've never played, most are 10+ with some around the 40-50. I don't log shit so I don't really know. I also don't care because I own a fuckton of games and play a fuckton of games so I don't need some h-index to tell me how much I FUCK.
>>97988857Incredible, you can track the froth level of anons mouth as he typed by the incremental deterioration of his writing quality.Touch some grass, dude.
>>97988481Top, basically no exceptions
>>97988857You keep getting mad at these first player rules when even I as an autismo find it easy to ignore them entirely and just use the bg stats shuffler
>>9798778516, after 1158 games. I still think h-index is a bad metric to judge repeated plays, though. If I was a fan of tricktakers or erred more on the light game side, the number would be significantly higher. But who really cares
>>97988600SETI is guilty of both of those lol
>>97988857But do you have the best beard in your group?were you the last to visit a castle?last to order fast food?I think you need to expand your horizons. There's more good games out there with excellent rules and you shouldn't limit yourself like this.
>>97988891>you can track the froth leveloh god my sides
Anyone played Obsession? Thoughts?
>>97989157yes on the first two actually. I have a full biker beard and have been to pic related two years ago. fast food is the only one so far that would even fluctuate and that would probably be the guy who gets something on his way to my house.
My wife keeps owning me in Star Realms so much holy shit. Out of all games we have she somehow chose to completely obliterate me in this one every day. She can't even subtract 7 from 23 without calculator so why? What am I doing wrong?
>>9798778530, and got some ones I'm happy to boost up very soon
>>97989653Mad respect to those numbers of Bullet, Pax, Root, and the Splotter titles.Not jealous, not jealous at all!
>>97989701I AM jealous about your counts of Sakura Arms, Twilight Struggle and Mottainai. My copies have just like, 9 plays each and I'm dying to play more. I have the AEG version of Sakura and I'd like to get the new boxes but if this little one is already gathering dust, will feel even worse with the larger boxes lol
>>97989622Wives/gfs are going to have games they simply always manage to win no matter what happens, it's just the way of life
>>97989622you're playing a game where the market wags the dog. if you play the app and apply the exact same strat every time you'll either crush them or die without shit. so she is simply getting better market flops than you. it's rng and luck. enjoy it especially if she can't beat you in anything else that requires two brain cells.
What the fuck? I just found out that you're only allowed to build one route per turn in Ticket To Ride, while I'm used to being able to build as many routes as possible. That way, you can hoard cards and push your luck, but there's not the same incentive to take huge risks and wait if only one route is built per turn.>inb4 ticket to ride sucksYeah it sucks, but TTR Europe is tolerable if you gotta play something with normies
>>97990240It's still correct to hoard cards and play big routes to get better points per action.>>inb4 ticket to ride sucks >Yeah it sucks, butCopenhagen.
>>97989007Use ChwaziOrI just play a short game with no turns to determine first player, like One-finger gunslinger, Set or Swish.
>>97989622>playing Star RealmsFound your problem.
>>97989564America has no castles, that's just some heap of shit some "eccentric" faggot built.
>>97990314Mad you don't have your own local castle?
>>97990350I live about 15 minutes away from the longest castle in the world.
>>97989201Looks neat, would try it.
>>97990370Sounds like penis envy.
>>97990408Nah, that's in France, and it's only the third longest.
2026, I am forgotten...
>>97990515game is too shallow for there to be anything worth talking about
>>97990530Onitama catching strays.
>>97990556>>97990530>>97990515I like both of these but yes there's nothing to talk about. Which are your favorite Onitama cards?
>>97990515I enjoy it but for me it falls into a similar bucket as chess in that I have to use 100% of my brain, so it isn't very weekday evenings friendly
>>97989201Great experience, not a great game. It's heavy on rules, light strategy. It boils down to hand management, mostly. It is a great time though because it seems to attract people that like the theme but never played anything more difficult than Catan and good board game players that like to in-directly beat the shit out of said players. Everyone has fun in the end and it's extremely easy to get to the table. Must own if you have a board game group that's a little more advanced, healthy mix of men and women, and are social.None of the expansions are worth owning and make the game worse in my opinion by just adding bloat again without any real strategy perks. Base box is more than enough and playing with more than 4 makes the game drag way too long.
Gencon even catalog dropped today, I've been out of the loop on new and upcoming stuff. Any suggestions for things to keep an eye on? I know I'm looking to try out Old King's Crown if I can
>>97990573Frog, I guess?
>>97990515I can only find the Halloween version and I'm not buying that shit.
>>97982640Just seek help man. You legit have an addiction and no impulse control.
>>97990642That's a very concise review. I will order it right now. Thank you!>>97990642>None of the expansions are worth owning and make the game worse in my opinion by just adding bloat again without any real strategy perks. Base box is more than enough and playing with more than 4 makes the game drag way too long.In this day and age, I almost view this is a pro; I hate it when, considering the prices of board games, there are expansions that are paramount to the experience, so just buying the base game isn't enough.
Golf! What if Tiger Woods driving on Xanax was the dragon attack hazard.
>>97991235I'd squint at it curiously on the lgs loaner rack and then move on
Bought at the board game flea market today:>Wandering Towers with two mini-expansions ($35)>Ticket to Ride: New York ($5)>Mountain Goats ($2.50)Thriftbros, we're feasting
>>97990755Honestly, the only reason I bother going to gencon anymore is to gawk at the fattiesAnd then ask them back to my hotel room for a free willy experience
>>97990755nothing of relevance has been exhibited at gencon since... I don't know, maybe 2009?
>>97991380>living in or around Indiana
Kids are starting to get old enough for board games, any recs for decent games suitable for 5 yo's that isn't slop like Candyland or Shits and Ladders?
>>97989653>not one but two My Little Pony themed game>one played 33 times and the other 31Anon please tell me that those plays were with your kids.
>>97991796Peaceable Kingdom makes some decent games.Orchard by Haba is a favorite.Sleeping QueensGet a good set of memory tiles.pick up some wood double row card holders from etsy (you can /diy/ them but the etsy ones are stupid nice considering you'll be using them for years)Disney princess oversize cards for old maid and go fishNemo go fishCandyland is fine if you stack the deck, peanut in the first quarter, licorice in the last, keep them from stupid gains or losses and it's a good way to get them to understand taking turns even if there is no agency.Don't be afraid to make your own rules, so if they get attached to like Hatchimals (they did) introduce two dice and a reroll to make shit go faster.Clue Jr. and Scrabble Jr. are decentMy first stone ageMy first carcassoneare both good.Kings Gold (push your luck dice)King of Tokyo with no cards, green cubes buy extra rolls with the green diceidk it's rougher than I thought, I've played some hard games with sharp kids and when your own are not interested in anything but uno tier it's rough, I mean they'll play century spice road but they don't LIKE it and I can't even get them to try upwords much less something like paperback.
>>97990556Do you play base game only or with any of the expansions?
The only reason to ever play Candyland is to teach kids how to follow instructions, and you can houserule a draw 2 pick 1 to get them into decision making, but there are better games that cover both aspects. If your kid can read and follow instructions, don't underestimate them by making them by making them play fucking candyland.
>>97991796In my experience a 5y olds level of skill/concentration varies wildly so there's no objectively best games of course. Also I dislike most kids games because they are either purely luck driven or something an adult has to play at a deliberately low power level to not stompt the kids. What I can do with my 5 year old adhd daughter is:>Los Mampfosbasically advanced memory feat. El grande wheel. Suprisingly good game, haptically pleasing but far better with more than 2 players. Kids are drawn in by the theme of donkeys taking shits and stay because their memory skills are usually better than adults'.>Grosse kleine EdelsteineA wolfgang warsch game, probably the best kids game I know. It tests a skill children and adults are apparently similarly good at (estimating shape sizes) and is a pretty unique experience that doesn't become boring at the second play. How it didn't get the kinderspiel is beyond me. Far better than the somewhat similar topp die torte by ww>animal upon animalBest stacking game. Also suprisingly well designed considering it's a box of wooden animals and a die. Basically never has kids lose interest because it's lightning fast and takes like 5 minutes.>Jenga makerWeird one because we don't play it according to the rules. Should be a 2clv2 team game with one partner describing what should build to the (blinded) partner. I found it works amazingly well to just take the fuckhuge pile of possible forms and build them as fast as possible. Also marvel at how the unnamed dude in charge of designing the like 140 cards didn't just phone it in but really gave it his best shot, amazing what you can build from the 2x8 rough shapes.>Carcassonne/Carc kidsSelf-explanatory, choose according to what you think your kids can manage. Farmer rules are usually too big of an ask. I rarely get it out as it usually degenerates into building a nice looking map within 4 minutes.I suppose if your kid has a bigger attentiom span you could go for abstracts?
>>97992549Nta but speaking of abstracts I wonder how kids fare with hive. You see kids play chess all the time but hive seems more approachable for larval homo s..
>>97991376I have never seen any worthwhile games at flea markets/boot sales/charity shops/thrift stores. Feels bad man.
>>97989622Gf recently beat me in Twilight Struggle as the USA. I just had insanely unlucky card draws twice in a row in mid-war. Although not all can be attributed to it, she learned that she has to throw wrenches into my plays from time to time instead of just working towards goals, still felt weird not being able to just solidify my victory in the early/mid war like I usually do.>>97989201Great game, the most tedious part being how annoying the setup/disassembly for how simple this game is. Fun to play though and while not being all that "toxic" you still have a few of ways of messing with you opponents, something I prefer over your average low-interplayer-interaction games which feel like solitaire-games half the time that just have you compare numbers by the end.
>>97991796thank me later
>>97992017>there are better gamesname nine>If your kid can readnigga this takes SO MUCH LONGER than you'd think. some of your compatriots on /bgg/ can't even fucking read still.>>97992630you see kids play chess because you can play at level the horsey goes like this. the same kids can't fathom checkers or abalone apart from pushing the pieces around, it's just more impressive when they're moving bishops I guess.
>>97985625Qrd?I thought Catan & Root were supposed to be beginner friendly?I'm hoping my order of the 1st root base game comes today but for some reason the vagabond pack came first only had couple of tokens in it? It's for more players to be on the board I guess?
>>97982860>supposed enginebuilder is actually a game about guessing what actions your opponent is about to choose>perfectlol no
>>97991904>>97993404Thank you for the recs, kids picked out Dancing Eggs and Animal Upon Animal with My First Carc being a close runner up. Probably will pick that one up next.>>97992549>>Los MampfosI really like the concept of this game (the poop aspect would also get a rise out of my son) but it seems virtually impossible to find. I'll keep an eye out for it.>>Grosse kleine EdelsteineBurger here but I will probably order this from abroad after My First Carc.Ty everyone for the recs.
>>97994346It’s more about building an engine than anticipating your opponent’s plays. You can easily win the game without guessing your opponent’s action once as long as you make sure all your actions benefit you more than your opponent.
>>97994263Holy fuck. Who keeps promoting Root? Why are people buying this crap? Is this some streamer shit happening? It never ends.
>>97994599I like Root.
>>97994616Go to sleep Cole you’re drunk again
>>97994599Anon realizing that the "elite" /bgg/ clique he's a part of is just some contrarians in a trench coat.
>>97994263maybe Catan is a game the old guard grew up on but it's not a good game, it was the best they had but by now there's way more better games, if you want the same "random bullshit then we trade" feel try Chinatown, if you like hexagon maps and developing towns try Clash of Cultures.and Root is not good for new players beyond the cool looking art, with every faction playing its own game it gets hard to judge who's actually winning, for example Marquise de Cat on 25 points and Woodland Rebellion on 14 points (out of 30) are the same amount of turns (one) away from winning despite being miles apart on the actual scoring track. As for the boxes, Vagabond pack is just more meeple variants for the Vagabond, for all intents and purposes you got duped but its fine if you ever decide to play with two vagabonds i guess? but who would play a one person faction in a game of armies?
Lords of Vegas > Chinatown
>>97994944Never played lords of vegas but chinatown is alright. Not my favorite, negotiation games aren't really my thing, but it wasn't necessarily bad per se.
>>97994496Oh, I don't think you should pay exorbitant sums to get them. I assume you are located in burgerland?
>>97994599nta but what's wrong with root?
>>97995116complex, lots of moving parts, easy to trick opponents into letting you win because each faction operates so radically differently from each other that to actually feel like you're making moves with intent requires you knowing each faction, which sets a rather high skill floor for enjoyment. And don't even get me started on games with mixed skill levels.it is an alright, maybe good game, but not good for new players
>>97995079>I assume you are located in burgerland?Yes.
>>97985630>the base game with the quick start variant is very enjoyable.The version where you score only your factories? Bullshit, you played it once, that's how many times the vanilla base game is fun for.>>97984894If you only want 1, get M4. M1 and M2 kinda go together. If you really aren't going to play with others than M3 isn't a good choice.
>>97993256Mad jealous you got your gf to play twilight struggle, mine doesn't like card games (or games with cards the jury is still out on this) and finds the theme boring
>>97995229>wall of text that just boils down to "skill issue"No wonder /bgg/ hates it kek
>>97994496>Animal Upon AnimalLook at Chick-a-Boom too
>>97995116imagine 3-way rock paper scissors but you always have to throw rock and opponent A is always supposed to throw paper and opponent B is always supposed to throw scissors but throws paper. sound fun?>>97995250Sons of Anarchy. what other game do you get to shoot people?
My big critique with Root is the game feels like you're just going through the motions following a script. Most factions sortof do their thing, and decision space feels limited. You "march" not because it's the right move to make in that moment, but because that's what it says on the Marquis' player board.
>>97995800I don't like it and like pax ren. Wehrlefags really overestimate their wehrleslop
Is Root lower skill or higher skill than COIN?
>>97996933COIN seem more generalized where Root is on training wheels. You feel like you more control in COIN while it's too even, but the forced asymmetry of Root makes it harder to actualy win on purpose.
>>97995945>marching>as marquis>everAll you did was show you don't know how to pilot that faction.
>>97991796Mountain GoatsColorettoKaribaTicket to Ride is probably playable if they can figure out where the cities areKingdomino (there's also a kid's version, but I think a reasonably intelligent 5-year-old could play the original)Draftosaurus
anybody play the Dark Souls boardgame? I've heard it's borderline unplayable dogshit, but I'm an obsessed dark souls fanatic and I'm thinking about CONSOOMING anyway
>>97998153Yeah, sounds like a FROM fan.
>>97998153Take the KD:M pill instead anon. It and Dark Souls share lineage to some extent (Berserk in particular).You'll have to be comfortable with the significant amount of RNG and [magnificent chest head] that KD:M brings to the table though.KD:M is also a boss-battler/settlement management game with light (ever expanding) dungeon crawler elements, versus DS's boss battler/dungeon crawl focus.
>>97998629looks pretty cool, way cheaper on ebay too. thanks for the tip
>>97998153>>97998629dark souls is a pvp game not a co-op gameclosest analog would be, perhaps, fury of dracula
>>97998956buying a high end resin printer is cheaper too
>>97997625all you did was confirm there is a script
>>97999365>dark souls is a pvp game not a co-op gameMentally ill take.
>Trick taking >without cardsI like to think Japan will produce a blackhole at this point for how many rules they will undo to keep playing the same game over and over
>>97999381originally, participating in co-op required that you become vulnerable to invasiondark souls is a pvp game. more specifically, it is a pk game.
>>97999401I can't tell if it's growing up with og pokemon or the ds or something else, but something in this shitt chink gameboy game style art deeply appeals to me
>>97999403Playing dark souls, with its trash combat and ping issues, as a pvp game is mentally ill.
>>97999482never the less, the whole game is a trivially easy maze engineered to delay unskilled players for long enough to let skilled players predate upon them. 2 makes this even more explicit with entire zones that are nothing but that.conflating dark souls with something like kdm is simply wrong
>>97999482You seem to think pvp means 'competitive balanced pvp' and not what the intended experience of Dark Souls is, that is a complete mess where you could have one host vs 3 invaders, or one invader vs host and two phantoms, or any other combo, and that's before considering the pve elements and terrain. In this sense, games like Bang! are close to how the pvp interactions of Dark Souls work on a game theory level, but even then Bang is rigorous in how many good guys and how many bad guys are in each match because it too assumes "balance" to be a necessary quality.But yeah as the other anon said, KDM is not a good approximation of the PvE parts of Dark Souls, despite the high lethality and whatever its called aesthetic
>>97999920>You seem to think pvp means 'competitive balanced pvp'No, I think it's a trash gimmick PvP mode attached to a mediocre gimmick PvE game. I'd be willing to bet 80% of the players don't engage in the online aspects one way or another.Again, calling Dark Souls a PvP game is mentally ill. It's about as much a PvP game as an FtM trannoid with a skin polyp attached to their crotch is a man.
>>98000251well it's sure as fuck not a co-op game what you are is wrong and so completely devoid of valid arguments that all you can manage is to play the trannie card
How the FUCK do you play pax ren on bga and not miss half the prestiges played on your opp's tableau
>>98000368You'll hardly find a quote of me saying that as all I said is it's a PvE game. But if you want to talk about what translates into board games as a medium more directly, a PvE board game, which naturally extends to larger player counts as a co-op, is the default translation of a PvE video game. And wouldn't you know it, the actual Dark Souls board game is a PvE co-op.Speaking of arguments, pretending that Dark Souls is a PvP game because of an optional and very niche aspect enjoyed by hardcore gaymers that obsess over their ability to gank people is certainly an interesting one.
What a fucking strange exchange.Dark Souls (the video game) could be a fucking gacha platforming extraction shooter visual novel with arg elements and bluetooth enabled masturbation device intergration. It has zero bearing on the mechanics ultimately implemented in the board game.This:>But yeah as the other anon said, KDM is not a good approximation of the PvE parts of Dark Souls, despite the high lethality and whatever its called aestheticIs the only paragraph that even approaches relevancy.All discussion of Dark Souls being a pvp game is entierly meaningless. What the fuck was that?
>>98000551Yeah I wanted to post something but thought better of it, quite the irrelevant exchange
>>98000551I did offer Fury of Dracula as as a closer representation. trust me, this whole thing has been just as much of a bizarre non-sequitur from my perspective as it was from yours. flabbergasting
PnP anons, what are you makin? I just ordered a stickersheet of tiles for Chinatown to put onto this bag of 1 inch wooden squares I got from Temu.
>>98000682Preparing to print Nuns on the Run. Should be easy since it's just a board and some tokens. I'll print and laminate the minimap aid from bgg so I can ignore the cards and use a wooden disc to mark speed and such. Will also make screens to block players views from each other and put the Fanmade map on the reverse side of the board.
>>98000638>Fury of Dracula is closer to Dark Souls than KD:M>because Dark Souls is a pvp game>let me repeat my mentally ill comparison and act flabbergastedThere is zero resemblance between the two thematically or mechanically. The fact that there's OPTIONAL and NICHE PvP in Dark Souls, which you don't seem to get through your thick skull let alone acknowledge, doesn't take away from the fact that the core of the game and the very reason it achieved the popularity that it did is the dungeon crawlin' lootin' boss battlin' aspect and the fact that it rewards knowledge and being methodical. Pretty much all of which KD:M has in spades, even down to positioning mattering immensely when fighting each boss.Using your "logic", anything from Betrayal on the House on the Hill to fucking BattleCon is a closer analog to Dark Souls than KD:M because they are PvP and there's the vague sense that you're engaged in physical combat.I do have an example that actually fits your logic better than Fury of Dracula though. It's The Witcher: Old World. It's a PvE game with basically optional PvP. You fight monsters and gear up (though it's somewhat abstracted to levelling up stats), and then you can go gank somebody else. And that's about where the similarities end. And you'd still be mentally ill to imply that this game is closer to Dark Souls than KD:M is. Mechanically it's basically Merchants & Marauders, and the comparison is completely absurd.
>>98000682Nothing, really. Last thing I did was turn the flimsy cardboard units in dune into wooden disks with stickers on them. Then I realized if I just worked the time I spent crafting I could buy someone elses more professionally made upgrade. I don't enjoy crafting that much and have basically no time for it, so if there ever is a dire need to upgrade components I'll probably just buy it. The ti4 foamcore insert I made also looks truly dire.
>>98000818playing a souls game for the pve is like playing twilight struggle for the space race
How the fuck do you even pvp in lag soul
>>98000411the player info panel shows prestiges and other stuff, you can set it to be below the game or to the side of the game
>>98000844>roll a dice to advance on a track is the same as>exploration>killing trash mobs>looting>crafting>learning boss move sets>killing boss and looting some moreHey, another retarded take from the ebin Dark Souls ganker.Twilight Struggle is a PvP game. Dark Souls is a PvE game with an optional PvP element and the vast majority plays it by ignoring the PvP element entirely. Not that I care about arguments from popularity that much, but the PvE is why the game exists to begin and that's the core of the game. The PvP is a tacked on gimmick you seem to be too enamored with to be able to acknowledge it as what it is.
>>98000838yea it usually doesn't make sense to PNP if you have a job and care about your time spenti PNP but i do it because i enjoy it, not to save money
>>98000901i think that anon meant it in the "ignoring most interesting part of game X is the same as ignoring most interesting part of game Y" sense, not in whatever the hell you wrote down. and you might have autism if you're unable to understand things beyond the literal definitions
>>98001000Whatever the hell I wrote down is what people are interested in Souls games, for the most part.I think anon (You) cannot comprehend that not all people find the same things interesting, made a completely asinine comparison, and a fool of himself in yet another post.
>>97998153As a guy that beat a Soul level 1 playthrough of the Nintendo switch version of DS1, hell no stay away from that garbage. Watch a playthrough of the game and ask if it looks even moderately fun.
how do soulsfags manage to be so consistently obnoxious regardless of the medium?
>>98001567Go to bed, Cole. You are clearly tired and grumpy.
>>97990515Everytime I see it I want to buy it but 25+ bucks is too much for a handfull of pieces
>>98001636Have you considered 3d printing it?
>>97991235we played a d12 golf game off the shelf at the flgs and it wasn't that bad. I went to look for it years later and there are SO MANY fucking golf games I never did find it. You rolled like 6 d12 and they were colored, there was wind and direction I think, one of the dice almost never got used because it only triggered with another. I think the map was little hex courses. in any case I wouldn't mind making my group play golf again.
>>97990791boop $25 at Target
>>98001636Just draw a grid on paper and use coins for the cats
>>98001751checkers man just make adult cats kings and use 6x6 of the boardyou all still have a checker board, right?
>>97999373Like any game, the optimum depends on the situation. You can call it a script if it makes you feel better.Mindlessly doing every action on a faction procedure is the demonstration you don't actually know or care.
>Buy boop.? No, I just use the tiled floor in my bathroom as the board. Bars of soap are kittens, bottles of shampoo are cats.
>>97988857Those rules are understood to be only ever used on first playthrough. every subsequent time you play the game, someone in the group probably has Chwazi on their phone and you pick that way
>>98001804>Those rules are understood to be only ever used on first playthroughpremium cope
>complain when board games get too complicated and have token and miniatures for everything>also complain when an abstract is so simple you can make it entirely with household items never change /bgg/. you'll get the dozen+ plastic miniatures you deserve
>>97988857>>98001816RAWcels seething over RAIchads
>>98001743I don't have those here
>$30 for a piece of cloth and a handful of wooden tokensA fool and his money, I guess.
https://play.abstractplay.com/Uh... guys, I think the abstract chads won.
>>98002097https://looneypyramids.wiki/wiki/Main_PageThe rabbit hole continues
>>98002180https://www.jinteki.net/Will it ever end?
>>98000682Playin Dark Souls, naturallyedit: Sorry, PvP anon here, misread your post
>>98002187Hey how did you edit your post? This isn't reddit.edit: nvm figured it out
>>98002187*sniffles emotionally*I've shitposted a lot of shitposts over the years but I've never been a name-anon before today. this means a lot to me. I'd like to thank the academy, moot, and the unknowable quantity of vastly overpayed jannies that I've driven to madness and suicide
>>98002097>Ponte del DiavoloGood shit.
>>98002185https://summonerwars.plaidhatgames.com/
>>98002185https://ashteki.com/No one knows for sure.But I intend to find out!
>>98002257But in all seriousness, what's your favorite semi co-op?
>>97980464This bat chick is busted in Leaders. Since like only 3 other characters have faster movements than 1 at a time. She's a menace. Also, Leaders is such a hard game because there are often a lot if gotcha moments and you lose. I think it's best played with the Tak rule where if you see a way you could win but your opponent doesn't, you are to tell them about it if they miss it on their turn
>>98002519is this....is this FRESH????
>>98001104>Watch a playthrough of the game and ask if it looks even moderately fun.I mean kind of. I don't play a lot of board games so I don't have much to compare it to. The tactical positioning stuff looked cool. The worst part was having to go back to the bonfire and replay levels when you lose which is straight from the games. But when I looked up reviews I found a reddit thread where the top answer was "Is this game worth it? No no no no no no no no" which makes me hesitate lol
>>98002519>europe has half a war sunDEEP LORE
>>98002519>that Dead of Winter die in the dice poolWhatever happened to that game? I remember the year it came out and took the hobby by storm, had some expansions, got kept by Asmodee when Plaid Hat went rogue, and since...it just exists?
>>98002519Nemesis
>>98002815>and since...it just exists?It was pretty popular for a while yeah. Then I think people got the hang of the fact that being traitor is hard and a bad traitor wrecks the game.
betweenWings of WarWings of Glory WW1Wings of Glory WW2Sails of GloryX-WingD&D Attack WingStar Trek Attack WingAssuming no local play, I'm buying for small games with friends, and not investing hundreds of dollars into it, what's the best option?X-Wing and later seem to be heavily bent on list building meta. The early WW1 versions seem very simplified. The D&D spinoff was DOA. The Star Trek spinoff actually has a lot of content and living playerbase online, but is so poorly balanced it's all homebrew.I'm kind of leaning towards Sails of Glory? Multiple versions of rules from light to simulation, heavier emphasis on the actual maneuvering gameplay over list building tournament meta.
>>98003053but have you looked into Flickfleet?
>>98003053look into Gaslands.
>>98003053>Assuming no local play, I'm buying for small games with friends, and not investing hundreds of dollars into it, what's the best option?I have something better to rec. It isn't pretty but it is a DAMN good iteration on the genre. Afaik it was slapped together by some of the X-wing team after X-wing went to shit.
>>98002905Don't want to open a discussion about a dead game but the problem is that being a traitor is so piss easy. Wait until you are last in turn order, ruin the colony.
>>98003053definitely Aerodome or FlickFleet if you want something sillieralternatively Talon
Played Captains chair 2 handed yesterday, maybe should've tried the solo mode first to get familiar with one captain. I can see what people see in the game; it's suprisingly heavy for how it looks. It's very much about sequencing your plays, keeping your deck sleek and efficient and seeing the best path forward. The former two are pretty fun, the latter I feel somewhat lost, but I suppose that is normal.My question to the anons who've been playing it for longer: I kept reading that every captain has multiple, very different paths/approaches to how their game plays out, but I don't really see how playing Picard aggressively could even work.
Was reminded this game exists and I was wondering if it's worth getting into with so many expansions and blister packs being hard to find? Anyone with experience?
Has anyone played the Apocalypse Dragon expansion of Mage Knight?How does it differ from Lost Legion/vs Volkare? I know its a dragon, yada-yada, but does it offer a meaningfully different experience?Extra question, does the dragon actually move in any of the scenarios? If not, then why are we paying for that huge chunk of plastic?
/bgg/, give me the Mission Failed treatment
>>98004303Purchaseless year anon, is that you?
>>98004358ha, no, though i could stand to be 1.>>98004303top shelf: Euros - worker placements - Planes, Trains, & Automobiles - Splotter - Knizia - some random Ameritrash - Word games2nd shelf: Ameritrash - Fantasy - Sci-fi - Horror3rd shelf: Party games - social deduction - betting - real-time - racing4th shelf: Expansions - 2 player games - small box games in the 2 cases - binders for PNP games like Gaslands
>>98003782I found nothing of interest in it whatsoever. pure bloatware plastic pusher of the worst FFG sort; trillions of fiddly little chits and cards to provide the discerning accountant with the most superlative of gameplay-free bookkeeping experiences. if it didn't say star wars on the box nobody would ever have noticed it.
>>98004303Slop outweighs fine dining, but there's still a lot of games I'd happily play. >Mission Successful>Grade: B
>>98004409In that case I'd go with >>98004429 but you own WotR so I'll game with you any time
>>98004303>stealTGZ, Pueblo, Cryptic Explorers>BurnBetrayal, Mysterium, Secret Hitler>AddIndonesia, Hansa Teutonica, Assault on Doomrock
>>98004303>Camel Up>Hot Streak>Magical AthleteSurely one of these was enough.
>>98004303>has KemetYou alright in my eyes anon
>>98004303What store went out of business and sold you those shelves?
>>98004303what good are those printers sitting unplugged on your shelf?also 50/50 you have all the good and bad games. what are the 3 worst that you really should get rid of?
>>98004576>>Add>Indonesia, Hansa Teutonica, Assault on Doomrockthese are good choicesIndonesia i've looked at but the length keeps me awayHansa Teutonica i haveAoD....i'm looking at now>>98004767these are the games that actually get played....the stuff you can play with kids, olds, dummies>>98005624i think they came from a hardware or craft store that closed. don't remember, i inherited them from my grandparents>>98005765>what good are those printers sitting unplugged on your shelf?storage until i need them. house isn't big enough to leave them set up all the time.
>>98005765>you have all the good and bad games. what are the 3 worst that you really should get rid of?that's kinda what i was hoping /bgg/ would tell mehonestly if i had to pick ones i'd want to get rid of....they would be my wife's games, and games i've gotten as gifts (that i have to hold onto longer yet so i don't look rude)
>>98004303Nah. Unlike the "mission failed" guy, you have at least a dozen or sogames I know for a fact are good, and over a dozen more I'd like to try. Can a collection that has>Carcassonne big box>Concordia>Agricola>El Grande>Great Western Trail>Great Zimbabwe>Zoo Vadis>Kemet>War of the ring>Sheriff of Nottingham>Cash and Guns>Twilight Struggle>Summoner warsBe called bad?
>>98006514Cash and Guns is a trash game, but otherwise yes
Rate the lead designer of Civ's collectionThe ones I saw obscured wereGMT's Virgin Queen Terraforming MarsCiv: A New Dawnand a few other gmt
>>98006514alsoBusThe EstatesNetrunnerGaslandsThrough the DesertRaDecryptoRace for the Galaxy
>>98006631Oh shoot, I didn't even see Ra. Yeah that game is kino.Honestly, not crazy on "through the desert"
played this as i love Conan the Cimmerian franchise and game fell flat. I think game would work better if it had Dune theme. same thing with Firefly Misbihaving.At this point, it seems that Jack Reda, while not a bad designer, is too focused on dune, as his games have rules that would make great sense in Dune setting, but are absolutely worst when it comes to Conan or firefly.
>>98006626>GMT's Virgin QueenHe's the designer of that game. His best design work is on the GCACW games (the 4 teal boxes under Terraforming Mars).
>>98006789oh fug that's half his games there, nvm thenwonder if sidelining him to creative director instead of lead designer is why bungled 7 so hard thenyou know, besides all the other bullshit
Now that the dust has settled, has this been disproven?
>>98006927Hansa Teutonica bros... Ra bros...
>>98006945The boards are used for record-keeping. You don't have a minigame on the board (unlike, say, A Feast for Odin).
What board game has the best looking board?What board game has the best looking pieces?
>>98006978Of ones I've played:>Inis>unironically Renature
>>98006927I can truncate this:>is it a competitive 2 player game? >YesProbably not slop>NoSlop
>>97980464So last thread I ended up connecting with a fellow anon on here and we ended up meeting up IRL and playing some games. We had a great success nobody was murdered or fucked in the ass. We played Libertalia "the furry version", The Gang, and Chinatown. Overall a pretty good experience.>what's gonna be your next board game related purchase?I really want to play Grimcoven. Love the presentation and I love difficult co-op games. Just debating between getting a retail version or being patient for a reprint. >what have you been playing this week and what are you playing this weekend?Played Return to Dark Tower I'm a sucker for how cheesy the game is with the tower, and my wife loves it. Usually a good time in two hours can't be mad about it. We've also been playing a lot of Too Many Bones and LOTR pandemic.
>>98003782uninteresting game full of rules edge casesplay Tragedy Looper if you want a good 1vAll, or Frosthaven if you want a crawl-y campaign
>>98006966What about the Brass games?
>>98007903>So last thread I ended up connecting with a fellow anon on hereI feel left out :(
>>98008378If you were in our area we could connect but /bgg/ is a pretty disparate group.
>>98008394Oh you are the guys that met up in Brazil?
>>98008394What area?
>>98008468>>98008611Los Angeles county, not brazil. If I had the money and the time I would totally go and play board games with brazilanon though.
>>98006978Chess
>>98004303It's okay anon. You haven't taken much time to think about why you love the games you love. The collection is bloated but it's not packed with crap. Half your collection stinks of watching too much YouTube. But your soul is shining through. You haven't lost all hope. You still have a life, and don't look half as depressed as a lot of anons here, but give it a few more years.
>>98006673I've never been happy with a Conan product since the original Robert E. Howard stories and the black and white Comics I read as a kid. I've watched a lot come and go but it never felt the same to me.
>>98003808Yes, and I actually like it a lot. The quest mechanic is a bit unnecessary, and it’s very rare that I actually behooves you to chase down a quest (in my experience), but it does add another potential option to consider. The dragon moves, yes. The new hero is okay but the font is different and that triggers me. The campaigns are honestly good, though I don’t think mage knight is really built to be a campaign game. It does okay at it.
>>98004303You basically have 70% of games worth giving a damn aboutHow's Dungeon Degenerates?
>>98009219To follow up on this, even though the scenarios are solid and better than the other expansions (imo), I think I will realistically just bring over quests, the new enemy possession mechanic, and the new locations to solo conquest, because that’s how I prefer to play mage knight.
>>98008289I've never played it so I cannot say.
>>98006673theme doesn't make a game good anon
>>98008289the boards are just counters in brass birmingham, idk about the rest>>98006927heaven and ale passes, castles of burgundy does not. let's see how about 51st State?
>>98008468Curitiba?
Anyone ever play Tesseract? I was walking through a book shop and I saw it. Looked interesting but I had a strict goal and didn't want to get sidetracked. Seems neat enough as a sort of everyone takes turns cracking at something you're literally dismantling.
>>98009681Played it once. I don't remember anything about it, so evidently I didn't love it or hate it.
>>98009681this looks like something I want to make my friends play. bookstore find is always sus as I assume it's normie shit. let us know what you find out.
>>98007903>we ended up meeting up IRLDamn that must have felt surreal. What part of the world?
>>98004303Wait, are you the cargo shorts boomer?
>>98003782It's Descent 2e with a Star Wars skin and then a skirmish mode added. I've never actually played the skirmish mode but played both co-op camapaigns vs the app and the 1vs many campaign. It's a fun dice chucker dungeon crawl if you like the star wars theme, and it's mostly pre disney stuff, although a later expansion added Filoni's waifu the adult version.
>>98009392I like Castles of Burgundy a lot, but as a guilty pleasure game. It's the one multiplayer solitaire I get a kick out of, because it's just so damn good at it.
>>98009918Nta, but if I meet someone online for board games, sex is non negotiable after.
>>98010070>Descent 2e>fun dice chuckersure thing werhle
>>98010085>>>/lgbt/
>>98006927Paxbros...
>>98009992>No Root>No Merchants & MaraudersI doubt it.
>>98006927So if it has a tacked on solo mode it's not autoslop?Weird logic
>>98009353But it makes game more enjoyable. And it bothers me when theme feels like it was slapped game as afterthought, instead of rules being created around theme, like it was with OG dune
>>98009392The 51st state board can be replaced with a card or just memorized, as its pretty much aesthetics and record keeping (starting incomes, basic actions, faction specific conversion rates, location health), so its probably not slop.
After hating on turczi for a while for bis shitty solo modes, I gotta admit he did well with Captain's chair and he's clearly a trekkie. I suppose I have to stop calling him a faggot
>>98006927Here-I-stand-bros
>>98009992no, he just tricked me into getting LNOE
>>98010666Captains chair is great. I’ve been waiting on the expansions for ages now. I think Voidfall is almost perfect IF you like solo efficiency puzzles. He’s been on a roll for me
>>98006927I for one detest the bastardisation of language. "Slop" is something to dislike, yes, but it's not just pure preference like coops are slop or MPS games are slop or heavy games are slop. This is just a preference tree by someone on /bgg/ who routinely barges in with massively shit takes.Or it's just damn good bait.
>>98011382And yet…they’re totally correct (and not me)
>>98011382fine, we'll invent some new wordsco-ops will henceforth instead be be known as coshlophappy?
What games do you have in your collection that were crowdfunded only, not available retail, and you’d miss if you didn’t have it?(YOU didn’t have to buy it from Kickstarter or Gamefound or whatever. Secondhand still counts. But if it later became available widespread in retail, doesn’t count.)
>>98011733I'm sure you can do better. Keep at it, maybe you'll come up with something that isn't retarded.
>>98011746Not a single oneI can't even think of one I'd like to have that was KS only
>>98011790language is a process :^
>>98011746The Estates is the only oneThat one’s a great fucking game though
>>98011846same level of argument
>>98011746Guards of AtlantisWhat a fucking gem of a game
Anyone played the Spacing Guild expansion for War for Arrakis? Personally I felt like the base game was heavily lacking somehow - the spice harvesting meant next to nothing, and only Atreides had any fun toys while Harkonnen had to slog across the fucking desert like a hundred times to do anything. Spacing Guild seems like it'll allow Harkonnen to have some big turns if they manage to get a lot of spice (as it should be).
>>98014052I have an unopened all in pledge collecting dust back home..... never got to play it before the move.
>>98011746>>98011854>>98014052heard great things about these 2. This question's been up for about a full workday now. Are they the only 2 board games that justify crowdfunding??
>>98014052I bought that off their website without ever touching the ks so idk if that should count
I don't want to play my board games anymore anons. I spent the last week just playing with office pens. The Pentel Energel 0.7mm was the smoothest. The Uni-Ball Jetstream 0.7mm is the best ballpoint I tested. The Bic Cristal or Bic Round Stic are low-key my favorite pens. I did a side-quest and found that I enjoyed the Uni-Ball Kuru Toga 0.7mm mechanical pencil with Ain Stein Lead more than a Faber Castell 2B traditional wooden pencil. This is honestly about the same thing I was doing with board games. I would write lists, play them, and rank them. What's the difference?
>>98014453i think you might have depression or autism or somethingdefinitely defective somehow
>>98014353it didn't go to retailmaybe they had some extra copies they sold, but it was 99.9% crowdfunding only so it countsDOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A CROWDFUNDING ONLY GAME THAT WAS WORTH IT? >>98011746there's gotta be more than 2, right?......right?
>>98014510You might be on to something. I don't really feel depression like I used to these days. Though I do space out and lose entire days. I've been low energy for years now and it really killed my enthusiasm for board game nights. I scaled back to only myself and my wife at first. Then I did a lot of solo board games. Then honestly didn't much want to bother setting up those either. I suppose it could be a mixture of depression and the tism.
>>98014532what is your motivation with this question other than provoking others?
>>98002610She's actually pretty meh in the current meta (not counting expansions). I am a playtester for expansions 1 and 2 (1 is finalized, 2 just started the larger testing phase last week).Five of the base game character will also receive new versions intended to adjust their power level. Wanderer isn't one of them because even though she is considered pretty weak, her power is overall useful and can sometimes set up strong positions. Plus there is potential that expansion characters will make her better.The five characters are Hermit&Cub, Nemesis, Manipulator, Rider, Archer. All of them were made slightly better except Hermit&Cub who was nerfed because of dominating the meta.
>>98014663bro, i'm putting off going on a walk right now. you sound like me. i've been walking every day for the last 2 months+ and it's been doing wonders. i'll go on a walk right now if you do toodeal?
>>98014697provoking others isn't my motivation at all. i'm not in my teens or 20s anymore, that doesn't do it for me these days.1) genuine curiosity2) maybe find a good game i haven't heard of3) if i make some KS-addicted fool realize the folly of his ways, great, i guessi don't know that KS is necessarily a net negative for the board game industry though, and i don't really care how other people spend their money. it's mostly curiosity. definitely not trying to make anyone feel bad about their purchases.
>>98011746>>98014532Doomrock
>>98014532Flickfleet and Nawalli.Never see them available in the wild.I had totally forgotten about Doomrock too, kudos to anon >>98014757
>>97987785total: 37 h-index: 15avg plays: 13.8 min-max: [3-38]With every game < 5 currently on my trade listAnd I guess I don't include RftG with 100+ bc I was tracking digital for a while
>>98014453Yeah I'm with >>98014510 on thisI don't know if your pen stating exercise is meant to be an example for tedium or if it gives you the same statisfaction as boardgames, but there's something behind this that does hinder you in life.t. blazed through uni only to get stuck on the diploma thesis for almost 10 fucking yearsBut I don't want to go too far off topic. Played another round of captains chair (solo, might be the only game I've ever repeatedly played solo) and I'm beginning to see the different paths the game lets me persue, the reserve/development stack really is a great idea. Only played picard for now, but apparently I tend to thin down my deck too much and later on lack actions that let me gain cards from the market. But I somehow always end up with data as my duty officer. Oh and Counselor Trois is utterly insane, I keep rereading her DO ability and going yeah that can't be right.Unfortunately I am afraid I'll still have to get rid of the game in a few months. Solo games already take +1h and I imagine 2p would go for 3+ hours. Which isn't a problem per se, but the game seems to uninteractive for the opponents turns to be all that interesting for the most part, and I will likely not suffer a 2p game with an hour of downtime per game
>>98014532I have no idea what the status was but my buddy got the dinosaur island kickstarter and I waited two years to pick up an unopened scalper's all in copy at cost as the hype didn't outlast the kickstarter.
>>98014453I'll stick with my pilot decimo
>stomped my friends in Mushroom SortI hope they want to play again next time...
>>98014709Sorry, I was spaced out. I did get some exercise in though. I force it most nights. Weird hour to get exercise in. But hey still counts. Thank you.
>>98014247>Are they the only 2 board games that justify crowdfunding??No, because that wasn't the question. I'm not exactly sure what "available at retail" means, but there are plenty of good to great games that came out of Kickstarter.>KD:M>Gloomhaven>TMB>Spirit Island>Cloudspire>Root>Vast>Arcs>Eclipse>Hegemony>EU: PoP>Blood on the ClocktowerJust going off the top of my head. My own opinion is mixed on some of these, but the point is that they are generally considered at least decent.>>98014453
>>98014247>>98015786Just skimming through the most funded list on Kickstarter to see what else that's at least decent came through there.>Slay the Spire>7th Continent/Citadel>Lang trilogy (Blood Rage, Ankh, Rising Sun)>Cthulhu Wars>Brass: Birmingham apparently?And these are just the ones I've played. Plenty of other recogniseable games on there. Some of them, like Memesis, I wouldn't consider good, but there's an audience for at least.
>>98014247>>98015786To add to anon's point, despite gay IP pushers and mini pushers like CMON, I firmly believe crowdfunding was a giant net positive to the hobby and only retards think otherwise.
>>98014704Huh, thanks for posting, anon. It's nice to know there are some industry insiders here. I do enjoy the game, but I'm just playing it casually, not against sweats online. I guess wanderer is a bit of a noob trap. Excited to see what you guys do with the expansions.How many games do you play when you're testing? Do you play against the same people, or random?
>>98009219>The dragon moves, yesAw sweet. How would you say the scenario differs from Volkare? From watching gameplay, it seems like maybe it is a more fun 2-player experience than volkare?>The new hero is okay but the font is different and that triggers melol yeah I heard that.>To follow up on this, even though the scenarios are solid and better than the other expansions (imo), I think I will realistically just bring over quests, the new enemy possession mechanic, and the new locations to solo conquest, because that’s how I prefer to play mage knightI hear ya, I tried Volkare for the first time and after so many solo conquests it felt strange! Also, he absolutely trounced me, even at the lowest level.
>>98016529>To follow up on this, even though the scenarios are solid and better than the other expansions (imo), I think I will realistically just bring over quests, the new enemy possession mechanic, and the new locations to solo conquest, because that’s how I prefer to play mage knightThat was supposed to be in quotes.
Anyone played Kings of Middle Earth for War of the Ring?I had a look at the other expos and they look unnecessary, but Kings looks like it might actually add a bit to the experience.
>>98016664Lords is good. Haven't played the others yet because I have a feeling that the game will become more and more bloated, and it's a beast of a game already.
>>98015786>I'm not exactly sure what "available at retail" meansreally? you're not?>>98015786>>98015888all of these games were available retail>>98011746
>>98016834I mean that some games are available at retail because shops also participate in Kickstarters to stock up. And I can't be arsed about the distinction because if they didn't have successful Kickstarters, they wouldn't exist to begin with, retail or not. So just because something is in retail now isn't a point against Kickstarter in any sense except that the more popular games you can get with lower risk of them being duds.
>>98016869>I can't be arsed about the distinction because if they didn't have successful Kickstarters, they wouldn't exist to begin withAll these hugely popular games with big name designers? Some of which have video games, some which are sold in Target? Most in the BGG top 200."These games wouldn't exist without crowdfunding" is the justification you always hear - I'm just trying to dig a little deeper and see how true that is.This seems to upset some people with little impulse control. If you can't be arsed, you don't have to participate in the discussion.
>>98016930What are you even babbling about? In what universe does something like KD:M exist without Kickstarter? Sure, it may be the case that some designers may get their ideas funded some other way, but that's pure conjecture. If it was funded through Kickstarter and became available in retail later, that's not an argument that it would've somehow materialised into retail regardless.
>>98016664Lords is absolutely brilliant. Warriors is...kinda unnecessary tbqh. Allegedly kings is great, but it's been sitting unplayed at my brothers place for over a year now
>>98017210>>98016740But what does Lords provide that isnt in the main game already?
>>98016966Any mention of Kickstarter turns people into rabid retards. It’s always funny. They don’t understand stand that it’s essentially patronage to make art that never would have materialized without it. Fucking goyslaves
>>98017251Supposedly it balances the game (helping the Free People), though I haven't played it enough to be a proper judge of how necessary it was or how well it does that.In terms of the specific "stuff", the main thing it does is add several lesser hero pieces to each side, allows the FP to have more varied openings, and the best part IMO is that each ring has a special power that can be used by its respective holder. The generic ring power in the base game, while still available, was a bit lame.So pretty much a bit more variety without changing the game drastically.
>>98017295>Any mention of games turns people into rabid retards. Ftfy/bgg/ anons are special people.
>>98017295I'm don't feel as strongly about it as the other anon, but I think it's undeniable that crowdfunding sites are used as stores nowadays. The initial idea was a good one, and still is for the more niche areas of the hobby. I've backed railways of the lost atlas and stellar ventures but the latter could've made it to retail and cost like 10-20% less, even with retail taking massive cuts. It's just more profitable and I do get that, fair. What I hate is the fomo culture around it. Deliberately low funding goals to get the funded in x minutes stickers, stretch goals, rendered components that'll look differently irl, unfullfilled projects that exist to finance the last successful ks, hidden cost (shipping/VAT) etc. etc.I think it's become an extremely homosexual fight for attention and an overall bad influence overall, as they sell on aesthetics instead of mechanics.Point being, for every niche autismo or experimental game that wouldn't exist otherwise there are probably 10 archetypical slop games that'll be forgotten even before fulfilment. Doesn't mean the concept is flawed per se.
>>98017502It's less about the profit and more about shifting the risk onto the consumer
is there any way to make ultraimmortal cards? like thin carbon fiber or whatever
>>98017502>Doesn't mean the concept is flawed per se.I don't think the original concept is flawed - if you want to get a game, you as the player invest in the game on the frontend and that entitles you to the game when and if it's developed on the backend. If you didn't back the investment, you need to find it second hand at a later date.But that hasn't been the concept for a long time. Now, funders are being asked to pay for frontend development of games that are already design complete and ready for production in order to also fund production runs for retail games. In fact, crowdfunding has exacerbated the price increases in games over the last 5-7 years more so than any increases in production costs associated with tariffs. Companies can now market and direct sell and cut out having to pay LGS margin. Pile that on top of having funders paying your retail operations costs as part of the campaign. If you know a game is coming to retail (almost all are now), just wait and get it retail. Most LGSs are getting into kickstarters now anyway so you can get all the add ons then.
What game would be easiest to re-theme into a concentration camp management game?
>>98019767Grand Austria Hotel
>>98015031>I don't know if your pen stating exercise is meant to be an example for tedium or if it gives you the same statisfaction as boardgamesIt legitimately gives me the same thing playing and ranking board games does. I think board games are too much effort for me these days though. I'll take a break and maybe they'll appeal to me next year.
Guys, I figured out an irl infinite boardgame glitch.
>>98021179Now that the dust has settled, what did he mean by this?
>>98021179Is it to become Reiner Knizia and acquire a deck of numbered cards?
>>98021179Tell
>>98020486there is legitimate work in reviewing japanese stationary products in english, it's like we've never seen a god dammed highlighter in this country>>98021179space base expansions that allow you to reroll until your board game group gets up and goes home?
>>98012312I wonder if you could ever understand how bizarre it is that you communicate in obscure saved memes while undertaking to whine about the bastardization of written language
new thread pls
>>98015031>t. blazed through uni only to get stuck on the diploma thesis for almost 10 fucking yearsAre you me? I think it's the autism
>>98022394make it, bitch boy
>>98021357I mean exactly what I mean to say>>98021429Already had that>>98021987>>980219921. Find a whale.2. Play boardgames with the whale.3. The whale gives you the games he didn't "like". You'll be playing all the new stuff anyway. 4. Whale buys new stuff.5. Repeat.Lets me save my money to buy old gems.
>>98022449>by nulennial standards I am a whalenot comfortable with this at all
>>98022422It very likely is. Adhd for me, maybe a little AuDHD. I've very much rejected that whole family of disorder for the longest time as I always hated people who made such diagnosis their justification for personal failure. But after having kids and simply no longer having the energy to constantly obfuscate/mask my behaviour to seem more normal, it's become undeniable.>>98022443Seems like a glitch noone profits from tbqh. Sure getting new games is nice, but if it's just slop with the novelty bonus already gone (assuming you played it with him) what's the benefit?
>>98022609Uh... you replied to the wrong anon
>>98022611True>>98022609Meant for>>98022449
>>98022609>noone profitsThe whale gets someone to play, I get to play. I'm not even concerned about the game being mine. Not everything is slop. Free "slop" plus whatever I actually go for is more than what I go for alone. Do you even math?
>>98022456It's ok, I still love you.
>>98021992>there is legitimate work in reviewing japanese stationary products in english, it's like we've never seen a god dammed highlighter in this countryI don't know how much money there is in it but all my favorite pens outside of the basic daily drivers are Japanese. It makes me wonder if our board games are also shitty compared to theirs.
>>98021179me too, TTS
>>98022754Japanese board games seem too cutesy and half-baked to mesmall boxes, lots of tricktakers, OINK games, games your gf would like, that sort of thing
>>98022296I bet a lot of things are bizarre if you are unable to form coherent thoughts. I see a trend lately, where befuddlement is portrayed as some kind of an argument.Memes can be used to illustrate a point. I'll even explain it to you, since you seem dumb enough to need it. >language le evolvesIs not carte blanche to use words randomly. Same way elves and dragons don't justify BMWs being in LOTR.
>>98022755>irl>TTSInternet brained.
>>98022754>>98022774that being said, i'd like to play Gibberers and Eggs of Ostrichhttps://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/380109/esuperaizeshiyon-gibberers-the-word-game-of-languahttps://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/146035/eggs-of-ostrich
>>98022789i dunno i like my plan (having a job and TTS) better than yours (sponging and mooching off scraps)
>>98022826why are you talking to anon as if you are talking to me?
>>98022826>>98022449>Lets me save my money to buy old gems.nvm! just saw you said this, i'm totally on your side now.i'm all about the old gems:BusThe Bridges of Shangri-LaTikalMexicaInisMedinaSantiagoThe Great ZimbabweEl GrandeRaKeyflowerThe EstatesMediciCaylusPueblo
>>98022789you can play online with your IRL friends. i know it's not Covid season anymore but the tech doesn't just go away
>>98022868>Inis>the estates>old gemle wut?
