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>>97984645
>Death of the Republic Edition
This reminds me, I meant to ask. Do we know of any canon "Republic Holdouts" or "Republic Survivors" still in the Ilclan?
As in, RotS people, using RotS mechs and unit color schemes and all. I know a Paladin left Terra with troops at Stones order but I don't believe we've got any more lore relating to that dude or his men.
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HONOR THE DRAGON!
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>>97984667
HONOR!!!!!!
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>>97984676
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>>97984657
I know there is at least one group.
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Wish Comstar had survived, but looks like it is the first of the original run factions to die. I suspect Steiner is up next.
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>>97984667
worst way to honour dragon.
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>>97984667
HONOR!
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fought 2 lances of Dracs. akuma, mauler, dragon, warhammer, jenner, panther, wolverine, and one more I forget.

hunchback IIC is way stronger than the memes surrounding it make it seem. this mech will instantly delete a lot of stuff. double tapping is not great with only 10 shots and 2 guns, but (potentially) shitting out 80 damage is a thing.

jade hawk 03 is stupid. I really dislike TSM mechs that require you to toggle heat sinks, it's exceptionally awkward to get TSM active on it. Jump 5/8/4 is a stupid movement profile.

phoenix hawk IIC, this performed about as well as expected; ran in, soaked a bunch of fire, died to machine gun ammo explosion. The other variants are probably worth looking at.

Bane (standard config), hilarious and "good" if you want to roll up to 60d6 per turn. The range on UAC2s is good, but their damage turns this mech into a paper tiger.

fun game
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Pixie IIC standard -> 2 config: trades 2xUAC10 for 4xLRM20 with enough bins (8, so 12 shots per launcher) to spam bad shots at range, will get a bit toasty if you shoot all 4, but can do 4->3->4->3 if needed.

Bane standard -> 3 config: trades 10xUAC2 for 8xLRM15 with 16 ammo bins. Nuff said.

Jade Hawk 03 -> 2 config: trades ... practically everything that makes it cool (TSM, wings, claws, supercharger) for 4xATM6. 4x6x3=72. This is an scary as a hunchback IIC but without the ... hunchness.

Would you fight a company of Dracs with this force?
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My first try doing custom machine. It's suppose to be long range fire support like original should be.
Tell me if it fits.
Type/Model: Jackrabbit JKR-10R
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3074

Mass: 25 tons
Chassis: Skobel 100-ROB Endo
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Type/Model: Jackrabbit JKR-10R
Mass: 25 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 43 pts Endo Steel 14 1,50
(Internal Loc.: 3 LA,3 LT,4 RA,4 RT)
Engine: 150 Fusion 6 5,50
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 4 0,00
(Heat Sink Loc.: 1 LA,1 LT,2 RT)
Gyro: 4 2,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 6 0,00
Armor Factor: 71 Ferro-Fibrous 14 4,00
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 CT,1 HD,3 LA,3 LT,3 RA,2 RT)

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 8 9
Center Torso (Rear): 7
L/R Side Torso: 6 7/7
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 1/1
L/R Arm: 4 6/6
L/R Leg: 6 9/9

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Light PPC LA 5 2 3,00
1 Light PPC RA 5 2 3,00
6 Standard Jump Jets: - 0 6 3,00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LL,2 LT,1 RL,2 RT)
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TOTALS: 10 6 9,00
Crits and Tons Left: 7

Calculated Factors
Total Cost: 2281250 C-Bill
Battle Value (BV1):591
Battle Value (BV2):711
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>>97984850
Steiner is stronger than the 3151 map suggests. Even with their realm effectively Balkanized, none of their neighbors are in a position to finish the Lyrans off; rump states are buffer zones against the Combine, no Jade Falcons in their former territory, Alaric pulling an Amaris and abandoning the Wolf Empire, FWL too weak to take advantage, Clanners stomping pirate kingdoms on the other border keep that flank covered, plus somehow the Steiners are still too rich to collapse economically. Unless Trillian does something stupid like declare war on Hell's Horses, the Lyrans are in a sweet position for a comeback.
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>>97985223
No, mainly because I'd feel dirty running both the Bane 3 and Pixie IIC 2 in the same force.
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>>97985408
what mechs would you bring for 5 v 12
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>>97985596
Warhawk B, 2 Mad Dog Primes, Timber Wolf A, and a cheeky Fire Moth D
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>>97985596
Wolf Hawk 3, Jade Dog B, Falcon Wolf, Thunder Dog 2, and Shadow Wolf C 2.
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>>97985132
>The other variants are probably worth looking at.

The 7 is a good one. Twin LBX 10s and ER Mediums, plus a pair of streak 4s. 4/6/6 movement and max armor, it’s very difficult to put down and can basically go wherever it wants.
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>>97985789
its rediculous how many clanner mechs just sleep on autocannons.

its all laser this, and gauss rifle or ppc that.
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>>97985335
Steiner is cucked because Alaric will claim the throne. Making it a rump state
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>>97985855
His overconfidence is his weakness, and all he's done since announcing his IlKhanship is collect enemies. Plus, the Lyrans have accepted non-Steiner rulers before. The test tube incest baby Clanner is not a shoe-in for the job.
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>>97985844
Gauss > autocannons

Suck nuts, Davions
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>>97985977
the hunchback C is clearly the best clan medium because it has a cuac.
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>>97985995
Clantech is cheat h4x
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>>97986011
Which is why you kill them and take it from them, so you can go kill more clanner scum. Do you even IS?
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>>97986187
Not even the IS did that. The Clans are still around and then the Clans kicked their asses again like they were not even there.
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>>97986320
yes they did. i think even the capellan are manufacturing clantech, from killing clanners and stealing shit.

steiners, davions and dracs have entire clantech factories.
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At the risk of monkey’s pawing myself, I really hope HAGs get a BV adjustment in the upcoming changes.

>replace the HAG with an equal amount of clan LRMs with Artemis IV (or V in some cases)
>mech gets lighter, gets cluster bonus at ALL range brackets, gets accuracy bonus if Art V, uses fewer crit slots, gets access to special ammo, and gets CHEAPER for it

Seriously what the fuck gives. I want to like HAGs because a big fuck-off magnetic chain gun is awesome, they’re just not allowed to be good because fuck you, clan LRMs are just better in literally every way.
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>>97985844
Ac suck as in long run plus it's boring, lazers are cool.
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>>97985957
You will bown down to wolf and you will like it.
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>>97985977
I still think LB 10-X is better in general
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>>97986512
>boring beam of faggotry

>sickass brrrrrrrt of shells with brass raining at the mechs feet

lol no. AC is best
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Anon who painted this, I summon thee. I wish to know what your method is for this. Praise Blake.
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Imagine what a world we would live in if Clan LRMs weighed closer to the ratio of other weapons to their IS counterparts. 8 ton LRM20s with no range restrictions is a much smaller power creep.

Other than that
>change HAG clustering to use a unique rule
>roll for initial hit location
>roll for generous X target number to stay on same location
>only if failing this roll is another roll made to decide which other adjacent location to hit
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>>97986679
It makes me wonder, is there a way to justify using Blood for the Blood God or similar blood dripping effect paints on a 'Mech's hands? Perhaps as a suspiciously blood-looking cooling fluid?
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>>97986750
could be blood, could be copious amounts of tranny fluid from ripping out the spines of non-believers.
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>>97986750
It's more efficient to demolish orphanages and their occupants with melee weapons than expending ammunition on them.
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>>97986804
look, if the fucking arkab won't stop hiding all their forces behind civilians then the civilians are going to get killed if it means the muslims finally die.
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>>97986773
>copious amounts of tranny fluid
Yum
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*flies past*
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>>97986750
>>97986804
Wonder how big the mech's hand is compared to a dude for pic related purpose
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>>97986976
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>>97986919
Looks more like a Heavy Gear in many ways than a BattleMech
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>>97984698
Need a series of comics about Jade Falcon Chan doing Jade Falcon things. So basically loads of murder and mayhem before she even gets EI implants.
>>97985957
No he'll declare victory and nobody should oppose him so everyone will bend over and expose their anus to him, that is the way of things.
>>97986359
>>97986712
HAG can
A) Use a targeting computer
B) Have a +2 modifier to clusters at short range
C) Not be intercepted by AMS which is a bigger deal now with AMS buffs
D) Not be disrupted by ECM - see rules regarding what it does to Art IV and V
E) Cost less in terms of BV if you are using Artemis on LRMs
F) Be more effective against aircraft due to flak bonus
Careful that you consider all the pros and cons before asking for a BV adjustment. Might see HAGs in fact nerfed instead.
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>>97986773
tranny fluid
Fuck your tranny propaganda, you will never be a woman
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>>97987080
The axman 5n is kinda gnarly because of its chag20 and cerppc ranged combo.
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Shadow cat T drops the GR for cuac10.
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>>97984667
2 out 4 Dragons honored.
1 Dragon about to get base coated.
1 Dragon primed and waiting its turn.
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Fiesta Dragon!
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>>97987080

>Intrigued Savage Coyote noises.
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>>97986976
Mech size varies greatly, not all mech hands are the same proportionally either.
The most recent canon measurement given for an atlas is 15.4 meters or about 50 feet.
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>>97986919
What was that?!
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>>97986976
Depends on where you stand on the Battlemech size question, but you won't be too far off assuming that they're about the height of an average person, tips to wrist.
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POUNCED!
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>>97987081
Transmission fluid is for cars you numpty
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>Quad mechs are bad...because they just are!
>And no one figured out how to put a rotating turret on one because reasons!
How in the fuck did the humanity of the BT figure out how to do anything?
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>>97988043
Quad turrets do exist though?
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>>97987080
>E) Cost less in terms of BV if you are using Artemis on LRMs

See this part here is just wrong, and was the whole point of my post. A, B, and E are moot when Artemis IV gives cluster bonuses at all ranges, and Artemis V gives an equivalent -1 that a TC would, and LRMs almost always cost less across the board. C, D, and F are situational, and only come up if your opponent brought the right equipment or units. Swapping for the equivalent LRMs and keeping the ammo so that I got the same number of turns of fire, I got this:

>Carrion Crow A, HAG/20 - 1622 BV
>1x LRM 20 - 1508 BV, 5 extra tons
>1x LRM 20, A-IV - 1585 BV, 4 extra tons
>1x LRM 20, A-V - 1624 BV, 3.5 extra tons

>War Crow A, HAG/30 - 3030 BV
>2x LRM 15 - 2696 BV, 6 extra tons
>2x LRM 15, A-IV - 2803 BV, 4 extra tons
>2x LRM 15, A-V - 2857 BV, 3 extra tons

>Marauder IIC 4, 2x HAG/40 - 3447 BV
>4x LRM 20 - 2638 BV, 12 extra tons
>4x LRM 20, A-IV - 2880 BV, 8 extra tons
>4x LRM 20, A-V - 3000 BV, 6 extra tons

Only the Carrion crow managed to be a whole *two* BV more than the stock version, and that's with the best Artemis you could give it. Slots only started being a problem on the Marauder, and even then I had enough to use up the spare tonnage and still come in under the original's BV. Battle Value seems to massively over-value the situational bonuses of being immune to ECM and AMS or making flak attacks (or have 1 whole extra hex of short range), because even the A-V launchers which give a -1 targeting bonus and +3 to clusters at ALL ranges (which sure as FUCK beats a +2 at close for HAGs) are coming in cheaper than HAGs are. If HAGs somehow manage to catch a nerf after all that I will lose my freaking mind.
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>>97988078
>If HAGs somehow manage to catch a nerf after all that I will lose my freaking mind.
The last tournament I saw had the rule that TCs don't apply to Pulse lasers. But you still had to pay for the TC >.> my Black python was not appreciative.

The community sometimes really sucks at balance so you might see HAGs go up in cost because the grogs hate clans anyway. The only thing I think we know for certain is they want to raise the cost of clan pulse. Where that leaves the faction post BV3 in an objective based world idk.
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>>97988078
Had a look at the maths again and its really the ammo being so retardedly expensive for HAG vs Clan LRM that fucks the HAG more than anything, HAG is indeed a series of diminishing returns.
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>>97984676
Aw man, my final game of Clicky Tech was against that thing. The asshole camped it in an H building which I knew he would so I blocked his terrain selection with a lake so he couldn't just streak the whole middle of the board.

I ran my two Jade Hawks up the far side and ignored his mech because he was a camper and never moved it. It was his Shiro and 4 artillery pieces he used to delay the game to try and win the round when he was ahead. He would slowly measure every token even ones that were no where near anything because the targets moved outside of it's possible drift range.

I won on all fronts at the end but it was such a soul draining experience.
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>>97987080
she's gonna get EI implants because of the aesthetic and because she thinks it'll make Davion-man respect her more (it doesn't, it makes her even more BPD).

>>97987164
>>97987242
Nice and clean and bright. Very cute mechs anon.

>>97988513
You choose the people you play games with.
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>>97988575
It was League. Back when Wizkidz did those. I didn't get a choice. He showed up and signed up. I got randomed against him in the third round. I saw how he played and countered him. He came to our league thinking he could sweep and take our prizes.
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>>97988043

In fairness for the last 200-300 odd years or so the Telecom company was going around murdering smart people.
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>>97988636
To also be fair, the one quad in production during that time had a nice turret that cost fucking nothing in tonnage. Yay, quirks!
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>>97987081
Sorry you let trannies brainfuck you into forgetting what transmission fluid is
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>>97988575
The running joke needs to be people look at her doing murderous batshit crazy things and commenting about how EI implants made her that way only it to be pointed out that's just her without them.
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>>97988010
>>97988671
>copious amounts of tranny fluid from ripping out the spines of non-believers.

Yeah and engine transmissions also famously have spinal columns
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>>97988676
The EI implants are actually just temporary tattoos/face paint.
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Jade Falcon Chan belongs with Steiner Kun, who is perpetually furious about everyone attributing to nepotism what can be adequately explained by his competence.
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>>97988714
>when your brain is so rotted by the trannies you see them everywhere
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>>97988078
Weapon BV is calculated by a fairly straightforward formula. HAGs and Art V specifically are calculated incorrectly though, HAGs should be a few points less, and Art V should be significantly more. Artemis systems increase the launcher's BV by a percentage instead of running the weapon through the formula again and while ArtIVs 20% increase hits almost exactly on the mark for where the BV should be, ArtV at 30% is significantly off. A 50% increase would be closer to what the change in BV should be. Additionally, weight is not considered in determining a weapon's BV. If a gun weighs less, and you can mount more guns, you pay the BV for the extra guns.
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>>97989008
>weight is not considered in determining a weapon's BV
A lot of people complain about this, but the reasoning is that it doesn't matter how the weapon got to the battlefield, only once it does after it gets there. Weight is only a consideration in the construction rules.
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My Ares finally for Mechwarrior finally arrived!
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>>97989193
Kino.
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>>97989175
Which leads to retardation like Clan and IS LBX-10 being both the same BV but argued that the extra ton given isn't such a huge difference when it can mean a lot.
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>>97989008
>>97989175
I only brought up weight to emphasize that LRMs even have that going for them too; they can just use the extra tonnage to buy CASE II, or get more heat sinks to offset their slightly higher heat, or just bump their armor up. All of these cost negligible BV, but the point was more that you just get a better mech with the same exact role any way you slice it.
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>>97989193
Ooooh he's got a nice scheme
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>>97988195
>The last tournament I saw had the rule that TCs don't apply to Pulse lasers. But you still had to pay for the TC >.> my Black python was not appreciative.

Your first mistake was playing Battletech in a tournament atmosphere.
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>>97989207
It can mean a lot, but the more it becomes possible to bring is accounted for by the BV of the extra stuff you bring. Only capability on the battlefield matters, not how it gets there.
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So which mech would each individual pilot?
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>>97990073
Why don't you tell us man?

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but setting crossover questions and stuff like that read as "entertain me". Least you can do is fill in some of the answers to start.
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>>97990073
I don't think we have any useless lesbian mechs.
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>>97990180
Obviously the Ice Ferret
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We love piloting a Shadow hawk IIC
Shadow hawk IIC
Shadow hawk IIC
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>>97990212
No fuckin way that Paul would pilot a Banshee.
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>>97990073
>Implying Usagi could pilot a mech
Bitch can't even use a PC, let alone a mech.
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>>97988714
One would presume that battlemechs, as a combination of the human physiology and technology, and that they would have spines, presumably filled with some sort of spinal fluid. The only red automotive fluid that looks like blood being transmission fluid, or tranny fluid for short. Of course your pol addled brain can only think of troons.
Furthermore, I don’t see why you would have a problem with me ripping the spines out of troons if that was actually what this was about. Begone.
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You spend a lot of time complaining bitterly. You should post Mechs, instead.
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>>97990501
That Dragon has no ears.
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Players want a campaign set in the Clan Homeworlds. Small-ish scale but still fun obviously, so no "they're the main characters in the Wars of Reaving" or anything.
Thinking of setting in the late 3060s or 3070s. Need help with something.
The campaign starts with the players being part of Clan X who are deployed to the borders of their Enclave's territory on Foster. A Star made up of 4 Mechs and a Point of Protomechs from Clan Y is advancing rapidly towards said border, on a path that will lead them directly towards a vital industrial complex.
The players, or their Star Commander, contact the advancing warriors and order them to change course and warn them not to cross over into Clan Xs holdings unless they wish to issue some sort of trial.
Clan Y respond with "There shall be no Trial. Do not attempt to stop us." then cut contact and cross the border, driving straight for the industrial complex.
In Clan society, would this be reason enough for the players to engage them in combat? I'm hoping the campaign starts with this, then the players get roped into the politics and investigation that follows to unearth what cause Clan Y to act so strangely/aggressively.
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>>97990759
Any self-respecting Clanner would consider this disregard for the rules of the Clans as dishonourable, a violation of tradition and name them Dezgra.
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>>97989193
I always wanted one of these cool bastards. Nice find, anon!
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>>97988195
This game will never have great balance till we go away from a 2d6 system. This is hands down one of the biggest things that holds back this rule set.

Move either to a 2d8 or 2d10 system would fix a ton
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>>97991122
Buck the curve: 2d12s!
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>VND-7L is 3147
Dang. If only the CC was able to jump onto the full Clan techbase bandwagon for this one. The Vindy converts excellently to Clantech without going for an XL engine, and it can still go 5/8/5. Somehow clan FF is also at the exact correct ratio to allow it the same armor points as the VND-1R.
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>>97989207
If that extra ton is not utilized then it doesn't matter, that is why weight does not factor into value. Imagine a vee with the Clan version of the LBX-10 that uses that extra ton for storage space instead. No bearing whatsoever for combat but helps in logistics roleplay. It is BATTLE value after all.
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>>97986679
I hear your summon brother.
Process is rather simple. I prime everything in AK fine gray. Spray bottom with black and top with white(only tip top in white). Base all metal parts with gunmetal than go with diluted (3:1 I would say) Basilicanum gray all over the miniature. Drybrush whole with ulthuan gray. I go with nuln oil afterwards to make corrections and deepen the shadows. After that all bronze parts are AK bright bronze and aggaros dune contrast. I highlight it with pure white( I use AK marker for this) and than some details plus red washes on metal and highlights with marker on metal.
>>97986750
Red hand is just my spin on "Blessed White Hand" cuz I want to use my blakists in ilclan era as mercs as "Red Hand of Toyama merc Unit"
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>>97988043
SARATH.
50 t omnimech. fwl and regulan.
compact and narrow profile, so you can fit 24 of them in a Union.

one kickass turret that has a fuckload of its podspace.

Sarath Prime has heavy and light ppc in the turret, some back up lasers, spikes and tsm. 5(6)/8(9) isxlfe

Sarath A is made of rape with a turret mounting 2 clrm15 and 2 mml3, it has a couple back up lasers and the tsm. 5/8[9]/5 move isxlfe

Sarath B is ultra rape, with turret mounted plasma rifle, 2 mlas, and 4 er flamers. and its tsm powers the talons on its legs to kick the fuck out of anything. 5(6)/8(9) isxlfe.

and they got 99% armour coverage so they are as tanky as they can get, whilst being fast as fuck AND mounting a shitton of crap on that turret.
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>>97988043
Capabilities:
The Sarath's most distinctive feature is its quad turret mounting, which houses fifteen of the 'Mech's nineteen tons of pod space. Regulan engineers adopted this configuration to address the space constraints inherent in a quad chassis frame, allowing turret-mounted weapons to engage targets in any direction regardless of the 'Mech's facing. However, the turret controls proved counter-intuitive to many BattleMech pilots, contributing to the design's poor reception among MechWarriors more accustomed to conventional bipedal controls.

Built on a lightweight RI-17p Vijaya chassis with a Magna 250 XL engine, the Sarath achieves respectable speeds for a fifty-ton design. Triple Strength Myomer further enhances both speed and physical combat potential as the design runs hot, giving it a significant advantage in close quarters. Nearly twelve tons of Durallex Heavy armor provide excellent protection for a medium 'Mech, ensuring the Sarath can absorb considerable punishment. The generous pod space and full-rotation turret give each configuration considerable tactical flexibility, though the quad chassis limits hand-held weapon options and the turret's additional weight constrains overall firepower compared to similarly-sized bipedal OmniMechs.
Overview:
The Sarath is a fifty-ton medium quad OmniMech introduced in 3122 as the only native Regulan OmniMech design. Developed by Ronin Inc. on Wallis for the Principality of Regulus, the Sarath was conceived during a period when Free Worlds League successor states sought to develop advanced military technologies independent of former League partners. Named for the charioteer guise adopted by the divine Krishna in the Mahabharata, Regulan expectations for the design were immense.
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>>97988043
Ronin's engineers built the Sarath as a quad platform with an advanced turret system, combining Inner Sphere and Clan technologies to create a versatile combat platform. The design's prestige was such that all production was initially barred from export and reserved exclusively for the Regulan Hussars. Despite its capable design, the Sarath ultimately acquired a reputation that failed to match these lofty expectations, becoming a symbol of institutional disappointment rather than the military triumph its creators envisioned.
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>>97988043
History:
The Sarath's development emerged from the Regulan Fiefs' ambition to field an OmniMech designed and built entirely within its borders. Ronin Inc., the Regulan military's primary domestic manufacturer, undertook the project at their Wallis facility, and the SRTH-1O entered production in 3122. Initially, the Sarath was held in high esteem, with all production reserved for the Regulan Hussars and export strictly forbidden. Most units were assigned to the prestigious First, Second, and Fourth Hussars, making the Sarath a symbol of Regulan military pride.

The 'Mech's fortunes took a sharp turn during its combat debut at Aitutaki in 3134. The Fourth Regulan Hussars, taking a cue from Capellan rapid-deployment doctrine, overloaded a pair of Union-class DropShips and landed two companies near the planetary capital. The Sarath's compact frame made this possible, and the planetary militia, underestimating the size of the Regulan force, engaged what they believed to be a raid. The Saraths played a key role in defeating the defenders and securing the planet.

However, the victory proved short-lived. The Marik-Stewart Commonwealth responded with the elite First Free Worlds Guards. Hussar Saraths performed effectively in the defense, with their turrets proving particularly useful against lighter Guard 'Mechs attempting flanking maneuvers. In one notable engagement captured on battleROM, a Guard Locust was obliterated by PPC fire from a Sarath while it tried to engage the OmniMech from the rear. Despite this, the Fourth Hussars were ultimately driven from Aitutaki, and the loss was laid at the feet of the new OmniMech rather than the strategic situation.
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>>97988043

The defeat catalyzed a cycle of declining prestige. A decision to abbreviate training programs for Sarath pilots compounded the problem, producing less capable crews who reinforced the 'Mech's emerging reputation as a disappointment. Assignment to a Sarath became viewed as a sign of a MechWarrior falling out of favor, further eroding morale among the design's operators. The unit's rapid fall in prestige eventually led to a more even distribution across all Hussar regiments, as assignment to the Sarath was no longer considered a mark of distinction.

Despite its capable design and solid performance when properly crewed, the Sarath has struggled to overcome this institutional stigma within the Regulan military. The 'Mech remains in production at the Ronin facility on Wallis, and its continued service across the Regulan Hussars ensures that the design's true capabilities occasionally shine through the cloud of its tarnished reputation.
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>>97988043
Deployment:
The Prime configuration establishes the Sarath as a capable skirmisher, combining a heavy PPC and light PPC with a pair of extended-range medium lasers in its turret. This weapons mix provides effective firepower across multiple range brackets, with the turret allowing the 'Mech to maintain fire on targets regardless of facing. A Beagle active probe supplements the configuration's reconnaissance role, while spikes on the torso and front legs take advantage of the design's triple strength myomer for close-quarters engagements. The heat generated by the PPC armament conveniently activates the TSM, improving both speed and physical attack damage.

Deployment:
Alternate Configuration A recasts the Sarath in a fire support role, leveraging Clan Sea Fox as its weapons supplier. The turret mounts a pair of Clan-specification LRM-15 launchers supplemented by two MML-3 launchers, providing both long-range bombardment capability and flexible missile support. Ammunition reserves stored across the 'Mech's four legs ensure sustained fire. Five jump jets grant enhanced mobility unusual for a fire support platform, allowing the Sarath A to reposition quickly between salvos. A Clan-produced ER small laser in the center torso supplements the fixed head-mounted laser for close defense.
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>>97988043
Deployment:
Alternate Configuration B transforms the Sarath into a dedicated close assault platform, the configuration best suited to the aggressive combat style preferred by the Regulan Hussars. A plasma rifle serves as the primary weapon, generating substantial heat to activate the triple strength myomer while suppressing enemy forces. Two medium lasers and four extended-range flamers round out the turret armament, creating a devastating short-range weapons package. The configuration's most distinctive feature is the addition of four Clan-produced talons, one fitted to each foot actuator. Combined with the TSM's enhanced striking power, these talons make the Sarath B exceptionally dangerous in physical combat, capable of rending armor with each step and kick.
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>>97988043
Prime sexiness
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>>97988043
Fuckin' A!
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>>97988043
B positive!
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why'd you post the entire Sarna article?
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the turret of the sarath has so much pod space you can mount TWO plasma rifle on it if you want.
a cuac 20 even. FFFFFFFFF


Sarath really is fucking love...


wait... how many clan streak lrm and clan streak srms got into 15 tonnes of available turret space... the body has 4 more tonnes for ammo...

two CSLRM15... with 6 tonnes leftover of podspace. 7 cslrm5 for a 35 throw, same weight.

5cssrm6 for 15 tonnes, 4 tonnes of ammo. throwing again, 30 missiles a lock. for 60 dmg. nice.

so much cool shit you can do with a fucking 15 t omnipod turret.
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>>97992085
Because I'm better than you.
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this clown >>97992097 isn't me.

>>97992085
I posted from mekbay's intel, which is from the tro. in this case tro 3145 FWL
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>>97992016
>>97992022
>>97992029
This look like something WoB boys would came up with. I like B cuz I like cook enemies.
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Looks like Zoids to me
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>>97992280
And, like Zoids, is not Battletech, so belongs on no table
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>>97992280
amen
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>>97992305
Trying.
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>>97992305
go forth and fuck thine own face.
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>>97992366
>>97992394
>muh kiddie gamez
>>>/a/
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>>97992305
Ok buddy.
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>>97990759
>In Clan society, would this be reason enough for the players to engage them in combat?
I'd say so, yeah.
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>>97992404
You are in the wrong hobby old man. I heard assisted suicide is new rage for guys in your bracket.
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how much tabletop version diverge from harebrained pc version?
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>>97992482
Shut it kid, Battletech is for all ages.
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>>97992589
They have very superficial similarities, if they can be said to have any at all.

HBS Battletech: Units move and attack in order on individual initiative steps, alternating allied and enemy activation.
Tabletop (AS and Classic): Units move in alternating activation on a separate step from both shooting and physical attacks. Attacks and damage are resolved simultaneously afterwards on their own steps.

HBS Battletech: Movement is grid based with 360 degree rotation of mech facing and torso twisting determining valid shooting arcs which are limited or restricted by terrain geometry.
Tabletop (Classic): Movement and facing is locked to hex directions with arcs decided based on the forward facing. Shooting arcs are determined by these arcs and shots may be limited or restricted based on elevation and cover deciding line of sight to individual hexes.
Tabletop (AS): Movement is distance based with shooting arcs determined by a 'forward' and 'back' arc drawn by arbitrary facing. Line of sight is "True Line of Sight" where cover and shots are determined by looking across the table at the target.

HBS Battletech: Moving grants "Evasion" pips that make shooting a mech more difficult (but fall off when shot at or locked on to). Weapons deal damage and "stability damage", which can cause mechs to suffer penalties or tip over.
Tabletop (Classic): Moving determines a units TMM which is a penalty to attacks against them; while also AMM determines penalties they have to shooting other targets based on their movement. Piloting checks determine whether a mech stumbles when it takes certain amounts of damage and also under other circumstances.
Tabletop (Alpha Strike): Units have a flat TMM if they move that penalizes shots. Mechs cannot fall over under standard rules (IIRC).

Really I could go on. Other than general theme and broad strokes they're not very closely related.
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Ah, the beautiful Yvonne Steiner-Davion.
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>>97993391
He went all in on FedCom?
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Is it going to be a total pisser to start out as a merc company with no mechs who then has to salvage its way into having mechs? Most of my fun in any game really is clawing to greatness rather than just being handed it.
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>>97993657
Most merc companies with mechs still go out of business within their first year.
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>>97993657
Nah, some of the tanks kick ass like a good heavy. There are downsides ofc but having Combined Arms force as a starter should mitigate some.
I would say it's rather cool to see hovertank scout building for loot/vip, than swoop with airborne infantry to hold/extract target while tanks provide fire supported by scouts flanking.
Some of the vehicles have rly cool gear you can build around.
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>>97993657
Grayson Carlysle started the GDL with an inferno launcher and a dream.
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>>97990256
Clearly they'd be BA troopers
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>>97994481
You mean a single inferno launcher and writer fiat. Realistically he would have just been turned into paste in the next second and everyone moved on.
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>>97994481
Grayson Carlyle would have been pink mist if that bitch wasn’t conveniently irrationally afraid of fire
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>>97991757
Blake’s blessings. I’m assuming you use an airbrush when you say “spray”? Wondering if I could achieve the same effect with rattle cans since I don’t have an airbrush. Probably hard to find a rattle and with a stream small enough
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>>97994791
Or wasn't craving some Gray dick.
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>>97984645

On the Malice, I must ask: is it possible to make a variant that's basically a gauss slinger with stealth armor like the Rifleman III (four gauss rifles + Null Signature System)? I mean, as a 100-ton mech, surely you can make a Malice variant with stealth armor +ECM to replicate NSS, gauss rifles and space for ammo (and also CASE to protect the ammo), and energy options to conserve on gauss rifle ammo?
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>>97987080
Also that 24 hex range comes in surprisingly handy sometimes.
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>>97994957
Depends, do you like clan tech and/or do you like light gauss rifles
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>>97994957
Cause 60 tons of gauss rifle + ammo is a lot to ask even of a 100 ton assault. Also a lot of crits, stealth armor and void/null sig dont take up a ton of room, but fitting in other weight saving gear alongside those bigass rifles and the stealth kit isnt going to be easy.
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>>97994810
You assumed wrong my brother in faith.
3 spray cans no fancy tech. AK sprays have 2 tips, one has narrow stream. I'm gonna snap you later a pic before washes to better illustrate it.
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Lobo new artwork revealed.
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>>97995439
Also Ares.
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>>97995448
Looks like they tried to make it possible for it to stand on one hex. The overhang will be incredible though.
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>>97995448
>>97989193
Changed him a good bit but both designs are cool.
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>>97995439
>>97995448
Looks a bit like something out of armored core?
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>>97986998
>Looks more like a Heavy Gear in many ways than a BattleMech
>>97995493
>Looks a bit like something out of armored core?
>>97992280
>Looks like Zoids to me
This the new bait/retard take or something?
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>>97995448
?
I thought the ares already had a CGL design?
And they even managed to make it look worse?
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>All this Suoer-heavy talk
JUST GIVE ME A PLASTIC OMEGA YOU JEWS!!!
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>>97995506
We still got the Go Bots comparison to come.
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>>97995448
Looked like a Poseidon to me at first but yeah it's a Hades configuration Ares.
Also RIP the leg lasers.
>>97995526
Just wait for the Macross comparison.
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But can we get more quad and superheavy designs? They're cool and there should be more and I should see more of them on the tabletop.
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We need a render of the Viper so we can get some Power Rangers comparisons in.
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>>97995562
You've got two feasible roles for superheavy mechs, sniper/missile boat and juggernaut, you have remarkably few construction options when it comes to making superheavy mechs even for the couple roles suited to them, and those roles are already saturated by what we have.
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>>97995562
Fuck that nonsense
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>>97995547
>Just wait for the Macross comparison.
Needs to be more obscure as a reference, the more asinine the better.
>>97995562
They need to be made to suck less first.
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>>97995614
No, onwards and upwards, twirling toward bigness.
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>>97995691
You know who else followed that sinful Siren's call into destruction? Privateer Press. They had a perfectly viable skirmish game, fucked it up by going "bigger", and killed it. Battletech needs to stay in its lane, not stray into needless shit just to give drooling retards more toys that serve no purpose not already provided in what is a perfectly viable game.
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>>97995439

I feel like it loses some of it's unique charm the original design has. Honestly, I kind of wish they'd focus on mechs that more need a glow-up rather than stuff like this, that's basically already fine. Like, if they want stuff connected to Clan Coyote the Canis and Savage Coyote are right fucking there.
Although, in principle, every Coyote mech they do brings us one step closer to them doing plastics for The Society.
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>>97995691
Whip out the mobile structure rules, fellow dreamer
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>>97995760
Wasn't there some random Society mech they already announced for plastic? The Septicemia or something?
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>>97995745

Privateer Press had a lot of problems, of which that was a minor one at worst. The main problem is that it was an office of talented people being run into the ground by the psychopathic megalomaniacs at the top. They also had a sprinkling of Spartan Game's issue with not focusing on their good games and just wasting money on speculative games which they also then never supported properly, and yes the big model issue, but that's not an unforced error rather than something GW was probably actively encouraging other rivals to do, knowing how it would ruin them.
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>>97995823

I haven't heard anything about that. Epic if true though. Although Stone Lions did keep making de-NOVA'd versions of them after the Wars of the Reaving. The one I really want is the Osteon. That thing is just an insanely durable iATM platform that will walk up to you, delete you with what are essentially four 3-damage a missile Streak SRM-9's and then move on, unhurried by the banalities of life.
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>>97995439
I like it. Good thing Falcons have it too.
Iirc only orion iic is not in their hands from wolf box.
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What good celestial configs are there? Half of them either a smattering of small ineffective guns like SRM2s and small lasers or a stack of light PPCs and thunderbolts, which aren't bad just really odd choices
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>>97995872

That thing is Wolf only, right? Essentially the closest they get to a totem mech.
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>>97995448
I like poseidon more, it's bit faster.
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>>97995829
It's funny how folks were unaware that GW used to license the right to make big models to garage kit operations.

They knew their lane.
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>>97995902
Not at the beginning. I claim it for Best Bird clan by the ancient rite:
You cannot stop me from painting it green
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>>97987639
Only when you jewel your cockpits and energy weapon barrels can you truly pounce
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Who is responsible for this autism? Own up now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUpe_nYVBhk
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Many green bird to painte this week
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>>97995847
Leaked some time ago by Catalyst. But when it actually happens is anyone's guess.
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>>97994810
>>97995386
Pic promised. All done with spray can. Went bit too high with black this time.
Yes it's spartan with "ears", his head looked bit flat and boring so it was this or ork rokkits.
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>>97996049
Why IS BA?
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>>97996091
Very sexy clan packs. Shame it's mostly for yiffs.
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Battle Armor is cool.
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>>97996099
>Hmm
>Why IS BA?
>Hmm
Get a load of Socrates over here.
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>>97989193
>>97995448
Ares are so cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWQKQHmzQyQ
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>>97996099
I travel for work and do not currently have a mailing address that I could order elementals to. The local stores didn't have any either and I didn't feel like buying a clan invasion box for 2 points of toads, so I got a box of IS Standards and split it with the IS force I'm going to do
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>>97996161
Cool. Never seen this before.
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>>97995448
Give me the Canon mektek Ares, aka the Lion
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>>97996197
Solid.
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What Hell's Horses unit wears the red and gold scheme from picrel?
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>>97996621
I thought Gamma Galaxy but they're red and black, not gold.
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>>97996621
Kappa Galaxy?
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>>97996621
Updog Galaxy.
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>>97995297

>Depends, do you like clan tech and/or do you like light gauss rifles

Wait, IS gauss tech didn't improve by the 3140s that those are the options if you want to turn a Malice into a stealth gauss rifle user?
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>>97984667
Why even have the left windows if the view is completely blocked by the SRM missile launcher
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>>97996705
>>97995310

>Cause 60 tons of gauss rifle + ammo is a lot to ask even of a 100 ton assault. Also a lot of crits, stealth armor and void/null sig dont take up a ton of room, but fitting in other weight saving gear alongside those bigass rifles and the stealth kit isnt going to be easy.

But what about if you only went for two gauss rifles instead of four?
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>>97996716
To look as srm fire. Duh.
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So the Elemental squad or 2 is pretty much mandatory for a Star because of how expensive the Clanmechs' BV are?
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>>97994957
>>97994957
100t IS assaults run into crit problems pretty fast, using any of the weight saving techs is pretty punishing for them with the kinda load out you want. Just as an example, each arm has 4/12 slots taken up by actuators and a gauss is 7 slots, so one needs to go right away. Then stealth armour is another slot per component (minus head).

Throw in a (C, preferably. Otherwise consider a H-PPC) ER-PPC because you have 20 DHS? Do you have any other requests or constraints before I throw stuff together in the meklab?
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>>97996769
Typically, unless you're willing to play an asymmetric unit count vs IS forces (you should).

5v8 or 5v12 is what I typically do.
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>>97996094
Thank you brother! I’ll have to grab some of those AK spray cans. Blake be with ye.
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>>97996793
I'm trying to make a Star within 8000bv limit and damn the budget is tight
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>Kill freebirthers!
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>>97996802
pick something like:
adder, puma, nova, stormcrow. that is your battle armour carrier, you picked it because it has arm guns.

then, grab two lights, a 5 squad of the standard elementals (or whatever flavour you want), then spend the remainder of your BV on a big mech. I like Mad Dogs.

Seyla.
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>>97996860
A lot of clan players struggle because they want to take "lore accurate" 3/4 pilots. At that point you're probably looking at a mixed star of 3 mechs and two points of elementals.

It's possible, but it means concessions. This is a rough example; I know the Timby is an ultra-premium option so far as BV goes, but I don't know a single clan player that doesn't want to slam one on the table when they can. Two points means two taxies too, I picked the first two I could think of that weren't dupes.
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>>97996860
>4/5's
>Hunch IIC
Absolutely Solahma
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>>97996717
I mean you can. You lose some of the theming of the malice though. You also dont satisfy your initial objective of a "gauss slinger" if less or no gauss.

You wanna play a hellstar just go get a hellstar.
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Do we have any examples of clan mechs being appreciated for their history? Obviously most clanners like old SLDF mechs and some clanners (especially the scorpions) would love to acquire them and may or may not go out of their way to do so, but are there any examples of them having similar reverence for their own mechs? Any duels fought over a blood ancestors mech or the famous ride of a Khan at some big battle in the remembrance? It seems likely to me that at least the more history oriented clanners would, but I haven't stumbled on any examples of it.
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>>97996793
I played 5vs4
3 lights and 2 mediums against heavy/medium lance, same points.
Jenner iic rules.
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>>97996795
Have fun, post your work when you try it out
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>>97997628
stone rhino?
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"Gentlemen, the good new are: our enemies don't have Mechs."

"What's the bad news, Boss?"

"You really do not want to know..."
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>>97997628
I seem to recall a piece of lore talking about the Jade Falcons finding Aidan's Pryde Timber Wolf, Deathtrap, and returning it to an honoured place in Clan space as a tribute to his sacrifice and the things he achieved in life.
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>>97997628
Clanners venerate the warriors, not their tools.
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>>97998596
>laughs in seeker
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>>97998482
Deathtrap was ground into powder and is being used to make Jade Phoenixes
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>Alaric brings his entire army to the border of Terra, and… sits there. He does not know how to get past the super duper space wall, so his ENTIRE ARMY is sitting on its ass right outside the SUPER DUPER SPACE WALL.
was it real?
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>>97998818
>Hey guys, remember when the prince of the Draconis Combine tried to breach the bullshit wall with one of the last two Combine warships?
>You mean where him and the entire crew got molecularly blended into the deckplates?
>Yeah, let's not do that.

IIRC Alaric was secretly invited by Stone and that's why he brought his whole army.
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>>97998617
The distractions of the Goliath Scorpions squander their potential on frivolties.
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>>97998818
Yep. Interesting plotline, actually.

>>97998872
Correct.
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>>97987081
Gender neutral gear shift oil, better?
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>>97995928
When you dig up and assemble the Armor cast Eldar warlock titan for an event and the Organizer goes 'that is not an official model' yes it is you noob and it is older than you are
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>>97998908
And yet the scorpion empire now owns more planets with more military and industrial potential, as well as population, than the entirety of the Clans could boast before the Invasion.

If the writers had any brains in their heads, the next century would be the Scorpion golden age, but as we know they cannot into cause and effect, nor do they bother to understand/write in a historical fashion anymore.
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>>97999155
Show me this magical wonderland on this map.
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>>97999195
Theyre farther to the northwest than that map shows.

https://cfw.sarna.net/wiki/images/6/61/3145_Known_Universe_%28Sarna%29.svg

Sarna has the images which do show the scorpions, its that massive brown blob near top left.
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>>97999195
>deep periphery state
>posts map of inner sphere only
>cant find them

i wonder what his issue could possibly be lmao
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>>97999195
Show me the new world on this pre 1492 map, anon
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>>97997641
>Jenner iic rules

Hell yeah
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Travel out further than the Deep Periphery and you'll encounter the Double Clanners, twice as estranged from humanity than even the normal ones!
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>>97999155
The writers like to consistently show factions that have massive populations and industrial bases to fall back as sitting around twiddling their thumbs while factions that supposedly have zero resources are able to pull manpower and equipment from their ass.
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>>97999657

Do we even know what's going on with HW Clans? Like, are they all dead because they discovered that purging your entire scientist castes, the only things keeping your society functioning, was a dumb fucking idea and everything went mad max within less than thirty years of them doing this?
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>>97999838
Eaten by Genecast Space Squid jumpships.
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>>97999793
Theyre terrified of ever having to consider the ramifications of a functional economy. The game must be one lance versus one lance, always and forever. Mix in small clan units to taste. Every faction must be competitively viable against all other at the narrative level!

And thus, tiny shitholes can compete with industrial juggernaut so Timmy the Tard's pet faction can continue to please him.
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>>97999277
It was this model, 18"j is crazy good.
I had cavalary star but swaped black python for horned owl.
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>>98000090
Housecucks need to be culled.
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>>97999838
They’re saving that for Clan Invasion 2. All of the invading HW clan mechs will just be iATM boats.
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>>98000127
No, the great houses should have drowned the clans during the initial invasion. Even if they just used non mech units.
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>>98000127
Hi Timmy, how you doing with those crayons?
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They should kill a great house at this point. I don’t get why the writers are okay with killing clans that people are very attached to but the great houses are just holy cows that are immortal. We should kill the FWL, after all it was house Marik that was essentially responsible for the Jihad.
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>>98000434
They did and then the marik fans shit themselves and they walked it back. Its one of those places where battletech and 40k are identical, you can never actually kill a faction that has a fanbase.

Wars of Reaving is what happens when you dont have a fanbase, you get unceremoniously thrown out the airlock in disappointing, anticlimactic ways. Which is better or worse, thats personal taste.
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>>98000220
No it will obviously be the other way around. The 3rd Star League will come visit to collect some tribute and this time the Homeworld Clans will play the part of the oppressed Periphery.
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>>98000559
And the HW clans will bury them beneath a wall of iATM HE missiles
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>>98000456
Who the fuck cares about marik
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>>97999838
Adder Confederacy is going to show up and ass rape clan wolf.
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>>98000714
This is historically a Marik aligned thread.
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>>98000714
I dont know and I dont care. Im only pointing out what happened after the writers exploded marik in the dark age, and the backlash to it.
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>>98000434
The House survival is just weird at this point. Minor Clans? Destroyed with no thought. Comstar and the WoBbies were destroyed because "tired of writing robes hurr durr" even if they flat-out never wrote robes properly. They had to make the Falcons a bunch of retards to create space for a new merc pseudo-Chaos Campaign.
Also they killed the Republic, but that was a long time coming.
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>>98000456
>you can never actually kill a faction that has a fanbase.
It was a mistake to advance the timeline beyond Tukayyid; everyone's faction was still around then.
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>>98000779
>had to make the Falcons a bunch of retards
Not a struggle to invent.
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>>98000754
They didn't even explode marik. There are like 10 Fwl/Marik subfactions in the Dark age. If anything they greatly expanded their roster. Unlike say, Nova Cats or Wobbies who actually got destroyed and have 0 presence moving forward.
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>>98000828
Yeah, they got cold feet and reversed course.
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>>98000849
I can see that, but what I'm saying is there isn't even a single moment where Marik stopped existing or Marik players actually had to choose another faction. Lorewise there might be something but gameplay wise literally nothing has ever happened to Marik. Even 40k has editions where people had to play their factions generic book instead of the super specialized one custom tailored to their subfaction.
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Spirit Cats coming together! Plus my Ares is so cool!
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>>98000220
If we are doing clan invasion 2 we better get some new clans and I don't care what the explanation for that is either. I want to see some more fun [noun][animal] combos.
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>>98000862
Unless you're a Silver Hawk Irregulars player. That guy was fucking pissed when the dark age fluff came out.
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>>98000862
Yeah, thats how protected the great houses are. Fucking spherefags.
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>>98000799
Tell us where did Big Falcon touched you.
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>>98000872
I like your weird tanks, can you name them for me?
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>>98000916
It should be invasion but Deep Space Wobbies+clans instead.
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>>98001084
Trellwan
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>>98000655
HW clans most likely burned anything associated with the Society..So no they won't.
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>>98001134
They kept the Septicemia.
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Protector looks good?
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>>97987639
Pouncer H is one of my favourite omnis. It's a screaming lunatic of a mech.

>>97988043
This is one which always baffles me. People point at the reduced crit slots, but used sensibly it's simply not an issue. And you can remake all of the good introtech mechs as quads with absolutely no downside. Not torso twisting is real painful, but the -2 to PSR and all the other benefits of being a quad do balance out.

>>97995760
The original Lobo was not fine, it's one of the ugliest mechs ever. I shall face you in the Circle of Equals for a Trial of Grievance for suggesting it is not.

>>97996802
Try a Star with 2 mechs (at least 1 omni), 1 BA, 2 vics and 5 protos. Cheap, fun and effective.
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>>98001097
Hell no. Theres a reason Blake rhymes with mistake, they should never have existed
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>>98001097
It would be so kino if the WoB converted all the homeworld clans to Blake’s way and convinced them to just obliterate the draconis combine and turn it into the new WoB protectorate. Fuck the combine, we need a villain faction that’s cooler than WWII Japan.
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Well this is it for May it seems
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>>98001236
Not sure how this would work but I was thinking of WoB refugees discovering deep deep periphery clan refugees from first purges/wars mingling and building for second go of Jihad.
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>>98001250
Any pics on that fire and ice battlemat?
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>>98001200
For TW, assassin, marksman, patient, cautious, coolant flush, melee specialist... all seem pretty good if your mech can use them.

in general effects that allow you to +/-1 from your hit location are extremely strong. marksman's ability to be chosen after the roll, giving +1 to crit chance, gives you 3x the likelihood to hit section destroyed. rerolling attacks is good. tricky movement abilities are good; for example the ability to move through an enemy's hex and then turn 180 for free? being able to activate that in a pinch should allow you to OHKO an assault.
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>>98001293
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>>98001293
>>98001322
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anyone have a picture of Sylph BA next to minis, for scale? and/or source for stl?
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>>97995508
no rounded shapes allowed these days.
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>>98001770
except for all the ones with rounded armour, but it's certainly a lot less than it used to be.
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>>98001092
>I like your weird tanks, can you name them for me?
Po II Heavy Tank
Thumper Artillery
Behemoth II Tank
Cizin
Jes III Missile Carrier
Joust Tank

:3
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I had a mech get it's leg shot off while it was doing a DFA and I think that that shouldn't automatically make you fail your DFA. My mech was able to jump there, having a leg doesn't matter if I'm midair?

I will admit that without a leg it would make sense that the attacker automatically fell afterwards, or face an incredibly hard PSR.
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>>98001932
>face an incredibly hard PSR.
Make it the standing with one leg PSR.
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>>97998872
>one of the last two Combine warships
wait, what happened to all the warships that got built after the memory core and why are they not making more? in-universe reason I mean (heard that the devs hate the warships)
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>>98002124
>what happened to all the warships that got built after the memory core
Jihad
>why are they not making more
"Reasons" The slips in most yards aren't even destroyed. They're just back to making regular jumpships most of the time.
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>>98002124
>what happened to all the warships that got built after the memory core
The Herb-pocalypse
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>>98001779
I don't think CGL has an uziel model yet.
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>>98001932
I mean you got your leg blown off in mid air, the mech is still in a balancing act while its flying probably more so and with a huge leg loss the gyro probably loses control of the mech and just tumbles.
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>>98002150
Well he either didn't try hard enough or forgot about Snow Ravens.
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>>98002238
An entire Raven naval star destroyed each other over Galedon.
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>>98002197
One is coming in August. Probably. Maybe. Possibly.
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>>98001932
Mere seconds left of your flight, while you're angling your multi-ton machine to reorient it to crash into a moving target, you take enough damage that a significant amount of your mass suddenly breaks free.
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>>98002252
Well I guess he didn't try hard enough because the Ravens still have a boatload of Warships.
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>>98002294
The clanners got to keep a bunch of their ships while the IS only got 2-3 a state. Fucking blows, man.
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>>98001212
>The original Lobo was not fine, it's one of the ugliest mechs ever.

Lobo is fine, it's proportions were weird and elongated and if that's not your bag then that's fine. But it was a distinct look that wasn't just the product a guy with a protractor, two shots of jack and a dream, and with getting on for 700 different Mechs you needs that.
It's hardly original art Bandersnatch tier is it?
Hell, it's not even the worst looking mech in Clan Coyote. IS IT, LUPUS?
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>>98001097
What order do the HW re-invasion and double-jihad take place in?

Blakists show up from nowhere to smite ilclan, then HW clans show up to eat the IS clans from the other end? Blakists invade the clan homeworlds and force them into the inner sphere?
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>>98001212
>The original Lobo was not fine, it's one of the ugliest mechs ever
What are you even talking about? It wasn't close to being one of the ugliest designs.
All the redesign did was make it a little fatter, clunky and gave it cockpit glass. What aesthetic deficiency of the original mech was fixed?
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>>98002226
>>98002291
You don't actually lose the leg unless it's a crit -> 12 and you get section destroyed. The leg is still there is just inoperable.
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>>98002545
Destroyed internal structure means you lose the limb. That's how you grab them for clubs 9/10 times.
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>>98000741
Replaced by dracaboos.
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>>98002712
>Implying we're not both.
Plague Pigeon, Snake, Robe, Jade Turkey QUADRAFECTA!
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>>98002643
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>>98002834
Yeah, forgot it's side torso destruction that jettisons the limbs for clubs outside crits.
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I'm thinking of painting up some marian hegemony. Recommendations for shitmechs for the cohors morituri?
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>>98002867
stingers, wasps, locusts. the usual. shitty versions of the vedette and manticore. penis hawks as bosses of bug lances

>as opposed to the fucking glorious vedette (armour) and Manticore (XL)
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>>98002867
Centurion, obviously. It only becomes more of a shitmech over time as they figure out how to devolve it into a primitive and then a MOD.
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>>98003048
nah, lances of centurions coming at you would actually be fairly nasty.
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4 centurion's divided by 1 annihilator = 1 and 1/2 anni?
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>>98002368
I don't think wob remnants have enough umph to take HE clans. I think it would be blood spirits/wolverines/whomever was kicked out and survived.
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what m-vspl is good for?
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>>98002197
au contraire mon captain!
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>>98003733
>IlClan era shitboxes
Hard pass
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>>98003792
There are only like 2 ilClan era exclusive mechs
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>>97995448
>>97995439
>>98003733
Does it seem like CGL goes out of their way to break up flat surfaces?
I feel like most of these little extra panels and grooves don't really add anything.
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Can (introtech level, lostech-less) mechs ever become completely unrepairable because of the lack of spare parts?
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>>98003864
Repair opportunities would be determined by the letter tech level rating of the location. In realistic terms if you didn't bring along X spare comms system made by Sony or Y competent tech who can jury rig it with other parts, then it's going to remain broken. In meta-universe terms everyone and their mother can build single heat sinks so you will technically never run out of those.
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>>98003864
By campaign ops rules (and logic) a dedicated tech team can have infinite tries at fabricating a missing component. If you have the power to retain a dedicated team of craftspeople for bespoke repair jobs, you probably have the power to acquire something easier and quicker to repair with common parts.
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>>98003839
When he said “hard pass” he was referring to his constipated life
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What if...the any of the great houses actually used their supposed insane industrial base? I refuse to believe that random worlds just died because they didnt have enough supplies coming in.
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>>98003911
>I refuse to believe that random worlds just died because they didnt have enough supplies coming in.
Boot World disagrees.
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A vidya game like 2000s Ground Control in the Battletech universe would be sick. Fuck, the expansion even had mechs!
The game is already basically a commander in a Mobile HQ commanding battlemechs, various vehicles and tanks, battle armor and aircraft as they fight against the Word of Blake so all you'd have to do is change the aesthetic a little and rename the units.
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>>98003911
Then the clans would still win because the writers would just write the clans winning anyway. Like how the writers handwave or outright ignore the million other obvious problems that shouldn't even allow clan society to function at all, much less be the strongest military powers in known space.
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>>98003911
A fair few required transports coming in on schedule or had terraforming equipment that failed that nobody knew how to replace.
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>>98003961
If Fiat was still around in the 31st century they'd be producing Clan mechs.
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>>97999265
Considering when it was made, that map is incredibly accurate
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>>98004091
I love how stuff from that era emphasizes the ports and main rivers so much because of how important they are. The first coastal map of Texas is similar for similar reasons.
Also
>All dem reefs as islands because navigational hazards and visible at low tide.
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>>98002545
Look at it this way.
Mere seconds after jumping into the air and vectoring in your extremely precise attack angle you got hit with a gargantuan amount of force that shredded a significant component of your mech and left the remainder as a dangling dead weight over which you have no control and no time to compensate for before it's combined drag and dead weight flips you over and causes you to crash.
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>>98003862
Shimmering sword, an ex-drawfag here and now CGL's head designer, openly stated that he designed the new models to be easy for newbies and those whom hate painting to paint quickly, and to be as difficult as possible for people to freehand or use decals on.
Specifically, it was to stop people putting pinups or cheesecake on their mechs, which he and cgl staff find, and I roughly quote, "icky and bad and not part of our vision for Battletech", or words to that effect.
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>>98004151
>Shimmering sword, an ex-drawfag here and now CGL's head designer, openly stated that he designed the new models to be easy for newbies and those whom hate painting to paint quickly, and to be as difficult as possible for people to freehand or use decals on.
>Specifically, it was to stop people putting pinups or cheesecake on their mechs, which he and cgl staff find, and I roughly quote, "icky and bad and not part of our vision for Battletech", or words to that effect.
Ok schizo.
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>>98004167
Have a gander at the archive, he posted it here, and whilst your at it have a look for NEA's post from, iirc, adepticon 2024 where his Marauder was disqualified from the painting competition due to it having a freehanded pinup on its flank.
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>>98004220
2024 NEA got dq'd for the pin up decal on a thunderbolt and his arrow urbie got dq'd cause of the warhammer ork rocket bit, 2025 my penetrator got dq'd for the freehand pinup.

Posts would be from the end of March.
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yeah, might've been a Marauder IIC now that I reread your post.

his thunderbolt is really cool as well though
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>>98004235

This is an accurate summary.

I argued that the Penetrator shouldn't be DQ'd, and that since the contest rules were not specific in detailing what "adult-oriented" meant, it was dishonest to DQ someone after their mini had already been accepted as a valid entry in the contest. I was overruled. Given that the Penetrator mini shows no more nudity than appears on broadcast TV, I did not and still do not believe that it should have been DQ'd at all, but *especially* not after it had been accepted. It should have been turned away when it was entered, not during judging.
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>>98004278
Just draw pictures of Margaret Thatcher next time.
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>>98004278
I recall the Urbie AIV, but the question was over the attempts by CGL to "sanitise" the game of any even vaguely risqué stuff. For some reason I had it in my head as being a Marauder, not a Penetrator but either way it's retarded, cheesecake and mechs are like hobnobs and tea.
The Urbie was something else, seeing as it is THE original AIV Urbie, was approved by the heads of staff at the time, and has featured in canon events and comps before, and I can only put it down to new and inexperienced staff being completely ignorant of its history.
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>>98004278
>It should have been turned away when it was entered, not during judging.
tbf, the way it went was like:
>Hi I made this
>no decals allowed
>I painted it! :3
>Hell yeah
and then they looked at it using their phone zoom and everyone thought it was cool.

also in the exhibition hall one of the vendors had a full on dildo kitbashed into a hellish dinosaur demon thing with a mouth and everything. it was pretty cool.

I hope you are doing well<3

>>98004309
nah NEA did paint a Marauder (or maybe a Tbolt?). Either way it was one of his Ranger units (cream white & light blue), which are fantastic minis & kitbashes and the love and care put into them really shows.
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>>98004278
Defending the nudeposting faggot is a bad look for you. Of all the anons ITT to buddy with why the fuck did you choose the one posting nudes??
Probably got dq'd late over it because he started telling people "that's a naked drawing of me on the mech!" like he did ITT when he posted it.
You're judged by the company you keep, you know that, right?
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>>98004637
>nudeposting faggot
????
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>>98004637
Tranny alert. Pinup on military tech is ancient tradition.
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>>98004637
I'm not defending the fugly flabby faggot, I'm defending the long and honourable history or cheesecake pinup art on mechs. That the fat fudgepacker has chosen to align itself with me is incidental.
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>>98004705
Archives, newfag.
>>98004726
Not the point being made.
>>98004817
You shared a hotel room with the fag readily enough.
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>>98004235
THAT got it disqualified? I don't have a penetrator mini on hand but I'm surprised they even saw it with how small the panels on these figs are. It's quite good though,
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>>98004151
If they're designed to be painted by people who hate painting, I don't think they did a good job, given how many panel lines there are.
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>>98005113
Certified Slapchop(TM)(R) ready!
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>>98005113
Panels are broken up with a decent edge so that washes and speed paints result in a well painted miniature. They're not expecting newbies to edge highlight every panel but to instead slap a wash over a basecoat or drybrush everything.
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>>98003733
What are those, a rakshasa and hollander next to the regent? If it is a shasa it's not boxy enough.
And what's the thing right of the uziel?
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>>98005241
Solitaire
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>>98005151
>speed paints
>well painted miniature
Lol, those are mutually exclusive things.
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>>98005241
Those are indeed the Rakshasa and Hollander. I think the Rakshasa looks alright when painted but thats just me.
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>>98003733
Do we know the release date yet?
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Can someone explain why the wolf's are able to remain in power right now when most of their army is basically dead? 90% of the JF are gone, SJ is not that large, and wolf had about 70%. So unless Ghost bear comes running, is it the Raven Alliance the only thing preventing them from getting steamrolled.

And am I wrong in assuming the Scorpians have the largest clan force in the ilclan era?
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>>98005282
You don't have painted minis so stfu contrarian anon.
Even resident tranny has painted something.
Timestamp or fuck off.
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>>98005555
Wolf stronk and writers decided long ago that wolf beats paper, scissors, rock.
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>>98005368

Rakshasa's new look makes sense when you remember that it's made by GM, who make the Marauder. So instead of it looking like a catapult with arms like before, it now looks more like a Marauder with missile launchers.
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playing with a friend for the first time, would the griffin be able to hit the blackjack due to the level difference as well as the woods blocking the way?
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>>98005632
Yes, the only woods that matter are the ones the target is in, most of the time the woods in the hex directly adjacent, and finally any and all woods that are as high up as the highest mech (either shooter or target)
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>>98005151
If they gave a shit about how washes looked they would use a manufacturer that could produce models without insanely huge mold slips on them.
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>>98005555
The writers don't like the scorpions
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>>98005676
thank you anon
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If I run MW Destiny should I use TW or Alpha Strike?
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>>98004857
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>98005566
This is some major projection.
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>>98005958
You aren't black.
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>>97984850
Does Comstar still barely survive in the Lyran Commonwealth? Honestly I’d prefer if they weren’t killed off, old school Comstar competing with the Clanners for HPG dominance would be kino and the universe is worse off with blakists reduced to terrorist groups and the Word hiding in the shadows somewhere
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Skimmed the rules, seem kinda interesting. Sell me on it.
Battleforce looks like a mid-point between Alpha Strike and Classic. Is it fun? Anything awful about it I should know?
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>>98005976
Nobody (in universe) liked Comstar.
They actively caused, manipulated, and fueled the succession wars. When anyone was making actual progress they completely fucked them over.
Like the fourth succession war where Davion was rolling the Cappies until Comstar stepped in, disabled their ftl, and crashed their entire economy causing the war to instantly halt in its tracks.

Comstar only worked when it had a monopoly. The moment a clan willing to maintain the hpg grid and trade with the IS showed up their days were numbered.
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>>98006011
>anything awful I should know?
Like alpha strike it isn't Battletech and therefore almost no one here will actually know anything specific about it because it isn't the game this general is about.
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>>98006058
Trying Too Hard
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>>98006065
Still on this? sorry to here about your unemployment and nonexistent social life, call that hotline if you're going to kill yourself.
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>>98004857
>You shared a hotel room with the fag readily enough.
Given I've never been to sny of the America's I would like to know how.

>>98005113
Shimmy said their designed to be drybrushed and ink washed, then done.
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>>98006073
(You)
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>>98006058
>it isn't the game this general is about
Cope and seethe. Mechwarrior is kino and a better version on Battletech than "classic" ever will be.
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Just got the alpha strike box. Sell me on a clan to paint the omnis as please, anons?
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>>98006112
>clickytech
Your boo's mean nothing when I know what you cheer for.
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>>98006157
I cheer for great games :3
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>>98006080
Then you're not NEA and it's fucking weird that you responded to a post replying specifically to him as if you were, isn't it?
Learn to read fucktard.
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I'm confused, should I post time stamped tits or what?
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>>98006176
You should join the 53%, faggot. YWNBAW.
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>>98006165
The way you wrote it implied other posters on the chain, myself included, where included.
And NEA was not defending him in that post, actually I think he and MAP have distanced themselves from the faggot.
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>>98006324
Bottom didn't really bother me at first, but his constant nude-posting and the one time he was shitty towards an anon who posted about his dad passing proved he was a mega-faggot, and not good kind like Freddy Mercury.
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>>98006112
>>98006164
MW:DA posting is thus far tolerated for being occasional and not disruptive. You should be careful not to change that.

If you really wanted to improve things, you could write a sentence or two about what is actually happening on the board, because 9/10 posters have no and have no intention of developing experience in a dated and unsupported spinoff.
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>>98006365
>faggot
>good kind
You may as well stay aligned with the fag, you're not making allies elsewhere.
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>>98006324
>respond to namefag
>directly reference a specific thing that individual dide
>"You implied other posters!"
This is an English website, I suggest you learn English before posting here.
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Just here to say that if I had to buy two Battlemechs, it would be the Shadow Hawk and the Thunder Fox. Carry on
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>>98006379
>MW:DA posting is thus far tolerated for being occasional and not disruptive. You should be careful not to change that.
Lol
Real tough guy.

>>98006164
>>98006112
I love the Mechwarrior Shiro. He's a cool design and I prefer his look to the CGL one tbhon. I don't know what's different exactly, there's just something about the new design I don't like as much.
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>>98006379
>If you really wanted to improve things, you could write a sentence or two about what is actually happening on the board, because 9/10 posters have no and have no intention of developing experience in a dated and unsupported spinoff.
Sure! Always happy to discuss Mechwarrior :)

The objective was to get into base contact with one of the three orange buildings in the middle of the board and spend an order to flip the piece of paper atop said building. If it was objective A, Precentor Lyr (the Neo-Blakist we were fighting to extract to safety in exchange for critical information) was inside the building and the model representing her was placed on the board. If it was B or C, the paper was discarded and you had to keep searching.
Once on the table, whoever was in base contact with Lyr could move her around the table and had to evacuate the Blakist off the table to win.
The Dragon's Fury won, escaping off the board with Lyr. Mechwarrior Akira, Fury Commander of the operation, was not happy about this mission, and although the Dragon's Fury won and successfully extracted the target his mood was grim.
Aiding a Blakist made him feel dirty, tainted somehow. Although his loyalty to Katana Tormark remained steadfast, he could not help but feel he had somehow dishonoured himself by protecting a descendant of those who had once set the entire Inner Sphere aflame...
Star Commander and Clan Warrior Otama Nostra, at least, does not have to live with the shame of falling Kev Rosse and the rest of the Spirit Cats, as his mech was destroyed 2 turns before the game ended and he perished in the explosion that finally brought it low.
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>>98006379
>>98006612
Mission fluff

Following the destruction of her forces on New Earth at the hands of the Fidelis, Precentor Lyr Deval, leader of the Toyama's Retribution Neo-Blakist terrorist organization, fled to the world of Ronel and went into hiding.
With Republic Ghost Knights closing in and no one left to turn to Lyr, through unknown and secret means, contacted Katana Tormark, Mistress of the Dragon's Fury, with an offer. In return for her safety, she would provide the Fury with intel vital to the Republic, intel that would ensure the Dragon rose triumphant above the ruins of the Devlin's empire.
While aiding a Blakist after everything the Word of Blake had done to the galaxy felt wrong, Katana was deeply intrigued by her offer and dispatched Mechwarrior Akira Mamoto to retrieve her.
Akira was not pleased with this. Under any other circumstances, he would have refused the orders to walk, to go to the aid of a damn Robe Wearer, but Mistress Katana herself had given him the order to do so, and Akira was a loyal beast if nothing else.
With the Knights close on Lyr's heels, he had taken his mech and a force of Fury soldiers with him to meet the Precentor in Richmond City's industrial sector. He expected a battle, Lyr had too many enemies too close by to escape Ronel quietly.
And he did find a battle waiting for him, but not the one he had expected. As he closed on Lyr's location, a DropShip sped by overhead, executing an impressively daring combat drop into the heart of the industrial sector. The very instant it was down, bay doors slammed open and Spirit Cats forces poured forth.
Kev Rosse himself has received a vision of the future, of what Lyr was to do in days to come. She was vital to the future of the Spirit Cats and had to be taken into custody, no matter the cost.
Akira would not fail his Mistress. Locking his targeting systems onto the nearest Cat machine, he raised his blade and charged.
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>>98006379
>You should be careful not to change that.
And what if he doesn't, Mr Badass?
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>>98006522
>I love the Mechwarrior Shiro. He's a cool design and I prefer his look to the CGL one tbhon. I don't know what's different exactly, there's just something about the new design I don't like as much.
He's been one of my favourite designs since I first saw him but I haven't got around to picking up the new plastic one as I currently have no Kurita force. Although I'm considering painting up a small Dragon's Fury force and the box the Shiro comes in seems like a great place to start for said force.
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>>98005976
Comstar gets folded into the Republic, then its other assets get bought up by various powers. Such as Intersteller expeditions grabbing up their explorer corps. ComStar News Bureau is the last of the branches that we know of to fold, it closes its doors in 3152.

Of what we know the only survivers as it were are going to be the WoB remnants with Mot out in the deep. Alongside any other WoB people who made it out as well.
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>>98006815
I wouldn't be surprised if some branches managed to buy themselves out (or rather a wealthy local member bought them out in the scramble) but they wouldn't really be Comstar at that point even if the new old management wanted them to be.
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>>98004151
I wonder if he resents being from here and tries to hide. But I will repeat myself. CGL is a horrible company and this has not changed.
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>>98006847
>I wonder if he resents being from here and tries to hide.
Would be totally understandable desu
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>>98006844
What branch would even remain? At the very least we know the Sea Foxes basically moved in and took control.

Though honestly the HPG network needed to come under their own territories control.
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>>98005974
Wrong.
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>>98006863
Probably a lot of random local affiliate media stations and local internet infrastructure. It's not out of the question for some branch manager to have bought it out while it collapsed, it happens irl once in a while, and it used to happen a lot before finances all became instantly transmitted around the world. In a post-HPG world, the local Comstar branch with poor income and high expenses could go into debt with local lenders, and those local lenders are going to have the chance to take bites of it before distant powers who may or may not have any direct stake in it. Some of those local lenders could be sympathetic or directly involved with Comstar.
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>>98006712
Nothing happens, retard. If the only reason you'll do something good for the thread is because somebody forces you, you should fuck off elsewhere.
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>>98006924
>Acts tough
>Gets called out
>Immediately tucks tail and backs down
Many such cases.
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>>98006612
>>98006640
Fucking rekt 'em
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>>98004637

I don't care *who* it is. DQ'ing an entry during judging for something that was explicitly called out as OK during the check-in process is wrong. Sure, mark it down, don't let it win, whatever. But when the model went through check-in, the pinup was pointed out, the artist was *explicitly* told it was fine, and then during judging 2 days later it was suddenly a DQ offense.

That's bullshit. Everyone - EVERYONE - deserves to be defended against that sort of bullshit. When I tried to enter the T-Bolt the previous year, they were at least decent enough to tell me up front that 3rd party pinup decals weren't ok, so I switched my entry over to a MAD IIC and that was fine. They accepted the AIV Urbie into the contest, and then DQ'd it (and tried to throw away the physical model) during judging, and that was bullshit too. I'll damn well defend Bottom from that sort of treatment. I'll defend Nazi-anon from it too. Because the sort of person you are doesn't matter; no one deserves to be *lied* to about whether their good faith entry is ok. If judging can't be done honestly, don't have a contest.
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>>98007174
>If judging can't be done honestly, don't have a contest.
Was there even a painting contest at adepticon this year?
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Not a fan of the cgl stalker. There's something about it's design I just don't like
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>>98007174
>(and tried to throw away the physical model)
Press X to Doubt
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NEA is hot and has a monster sized hog
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Proof?
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>>98007457
>Was there even a painting contest at adepticon this year?
No
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>>98007589
>archive.4plebs dot org/tg/thread/89859556/#89860717
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Battle Armor is so cool
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>>98007652
That one isn't. That CGI render is the gayest thing in the thread, and bottom is hanging around.
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>>98007661
Nah it's cool :)
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>>98007661
Trying Too Hard
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Are the Clans allowed to "encourage" a Bondsman into sex with their totally-not-slave-owner
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>>97990501
Do you paint singles or are these all for different lances?
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>>98007694
Why would you have sex with a lesser form of life? I bet you would fuck a surat, too, freebirth faggot. If they were worthy of sex with a Clan warrior, they would be a warrior you. Even having such a thought makes you a genetically inferior degenerate and I declare a Trial of Reaving against you. When your lineage is annihilated, nothing of value will be lost.
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>>98007747
Correct, but-

I am Clan Jade Falcon and I have a humiliation and degradation fetish.
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>>98007747
So yes but there will be consequences? Fair enough. Gonna wet my dick. BRB.
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>>98007638
bottom is cuter than that
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>>98007747
>a lesser form of life
don't Clan trueborn warriors also end up becoming bondsmen all the time?
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>>98007811
fucking loooooollll
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>>98007652
Truth. BA is legit my favourite part of Battletech. I love them even more than the mechs.
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>>98007811
The dice rolls suggest otherwise.
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>>98007044
What, you WANT to fight? What kind of fucking retard is going to pick a fight over something this little.

Okay. Sure, I'll humor you. BV and era?
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>>98008032
3000 BV.
Late Dark Age.
Mech Only.
Choose your location.
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>>98008053
I'm not picky. You choose the sheets. I'll have a list up after dinner.
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>>98008058
Fine. Large Lakes #1 - BattleMat Savannah - Large Lakes/Box Canyon.
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>>98008065
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>>98008065
>>98008074
nta but I love this pack. So fun to play on.
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>>98008032
>>98008053
I am gonna hunch.
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>>98008158
Well bargained and done.
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>>98007694
A clanner having to force someone to have sex with them is announcing they literally do not have any friends, which in prison-like clan politics is extremely dangerous.
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>>98008195
Unless your a member of Clan Widow-oh wait.
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>>98008181
Funny, but that's not me.
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>>98008065
Okay, Understrength Mercenary Lance:
Raider MKII (JL-3C) @ 4/5
Hollander (BZK-F3) @ 4/5
Scarabus (SCB-9T) @ 4/5
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>>98008338
He's got a 0 gunner, dude, and you're banking on him failing a pilot roll or BATTLETECH happening. I commend you on making a nice honest list, though.

You fuckers better post a play-by-play. One of you neanderthals have your ports forwarded to host the match?
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>>98008357
Gimme a minute and I'll try to see if mine are set up correctly.

And I got a shot, nobody likes a boring fight.
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>>98008338
I'll just give you my game plan so you can play it out and see if I beat you.

for my first movement phase, I activate my jump jets and jump into the deep water (I don't know what water does, but I'm solahma so I don't care). afterwards I will start moving forwards towards you in a straight line and on any turn that I have shots, I will alpha strike (no double tap).

if any of your mechs end up prone and are not in crippled / in forced withdrawal, I will DFA them if initiative allows.

If an opportunity presents itself I will move into kick range and I will kick you.

>>98008074
I can't tell what depth this is from your picture and I can't be assed to look it up.

If jumping into this water kills me I'm blaming you.
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>>98008389
Fuck you. We're doing this LIVE! I already bought snacks and everything.
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>>98008389
You’re going to tip over in the deep water and fail a breach check and drown.
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>>98008338
I'm keeping my 4/5 Kraken 3. I'll take you all on alone!
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>>98008495
>Pilot roll every time he moves underwater
>G:0, P:5
Ayeppp...
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>>98008497
>>98008338
So my Kraken (Bane) 3 vs a Raider, Hollander and Scarabus on Large Lakes #1.
Well bargained and done. To the victory the glory.
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>>98007496
Catalyst employees have been known to try and steal players and painters minis in the past, them trying to throw out THE Urbie AIV because one of them disliked it is something I can see them doing.

>>98007174
Well said NEA, although given its abhorrent behaviour here I still cannot feel any sympathy for the fatgot, but you are correct, being lied to by officials or having the rules switched under you is just wrong.
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>>98008688
Honestly, trying to toss the OG Nuclear Urbie should be a hanging offense.
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Port forwarding is being aids but I might be making some headway. gimme a minute or two more.
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>>98008735
It's literally the same ports as the presets for Mechwarrior 4, bro.
>tfw the modern shit probably doesn't have those anymore...
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>>98008688
mad because:
>hotter than (You)
>better at painting than (You)
>better at CBT than (You)
pick one
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>>98008688
Let me guess, Bishop was a part of the judging and tried to do it. If I remember right he especially hates that thing.
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someone mentioning they had a fav mini of mine made me think of this. this is my favourite mini I've painted for Battletech.

the arm bands being the subtle yellow is really what makes the entire miniature for me.

:3
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Some of you may remember that I received a mystery gun with my unseen Rifleman IIC. I just now figured out what it is while putting together units for my next campaign. It's from the Asshur.
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I also really like this one.

The style is a noticeably different technique and I still find it's still contiguous with the previous at a glance.

I find this miniature very pleasing.
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>>98008749
I figured out how to get ports forwarded, but now I have no idea how to get someone in here without posting my IP for god and the world to see.

I thought megamek had private game listings somewhere but I can't find them now.
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>>98009038
Dox yourself, it will be funny.
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>>98009038
Hexadexmal it, then reset your router, OR use a VPN.
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>>98009038
Found them but they aren't working it seems. Calling the live show for now, but I'll turn by turn the IIC drowning.
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>>98009038
I did this and didn't turn it off for ... Ever? And also my computer literally exploded one day, which I'm sure want related.

Do it, exploitive.

These were my attempts at mimicking the stuff I did with the previous two, and I largely consisty them failures. This was my best out of the batch.
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Okay. Lets get this rolling. I have an obvious and massive initiative advantage, but an 0 in gunnery is going to make Princess a terror. I'm going to let her take the wheel on this one, but we'll redo if she goes full retard.
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>>98009174
I consent to full force fuck, ass mouth and vagina, retard style.

Seyla.
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the best piece of painting encouragement I ever got was from this thread, and it went something like:
>these mechs are fucked up and messy, but they're more like impressionist paintings of mechs
and that's what I want to capture. they're not meant to be realistic, they're meant to convey emotion. I paint what I feel~

or something like that? haha idk im gay
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I've been working on a terrain board for these~
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Cyclops is less weathered because they put a tarp over it to protect the sensor suite (it doesn't work).
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>>98009174
Round 3, Movement Phase, nothing much but moving.

Had to reset from my PC shitting itself, but the opening rounds and movement are playing out roughly the same. Princess is likely going to turn and delete the Scarabus this round, but that seems to be okay, Megamek doesn't want to let me turn off heat sinks to turn on the TSM so it was fucked either way.
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>>98009254
the terms to this trial are that you need to top me afterwards and that I'm allowed to cry a lil and you need to be nice to me.
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>>98009254
Correction, now it felt like letting me turn on the heater (maybe it was waiting for a new end phase to apply). Doesn't matter with 20 damage replacing that entire side torso.
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>>98009276
You know what that's fucking it. You're going to be a weird faggot about everything I'm not even going to humor you.

Disqualified for being too creepy for fucking 4chan. I further resign, leaving the contest to be of no contest.
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>>98009277
>realizes that toggling HS takes effect the turn after
>>98009298
>resigns
Curious behaviour, even for a Spheroid.
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>>98003911
Imagine if people stopped forgetting technology willy nilly, Venus would have been fixed by the 3150s, at the very least while the Republic was in charge. I don't see a blurb saying that Venus is reterraformed by the time we reach the 3250s I am (not) going to throw a fit.
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>>98009334
No, it really shouldn't surprise you at this point that after a certain point nobody wants to fucking play with you.

Even when someone bothers to acknowledge your lonely and sorry ass you won't take the toys out of it for long enough to be fucking functional. So go fuck yourself, as I'm sure you will. I've frankly tolerated your bullshit for far longer than I should have.
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>>98009356
Good thing you are so normal. It would be really embarrassing if you came off as a bigger freak than the thread goblin.
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>>98009414
Yeah I try to keep things real, anon. It's good to be recognized for your effort.
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>>98009356
but can you post mechs?
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>>98009456
Bitch.
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>>98009475
I'm sorry I wasn't socialized right

I'll go back to the hole now
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>>98009347
They're going to need to build a new stellar shade that amaris destroyed in the civil war.
The entire reason venus was good for a while was because of that megastructure built by the star league.
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>>98009414
I mean, even the Nazi comes off as normal and well adjusted next to this faggot, the bar is set rather low.
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>>98009620
Reading comprehension award
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this is the board btw -w-''

still wip, haven't had much time lately
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>>98009630
Your post is interprable as sarcastic or sincere, so learn to write your intention clearly.
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>>98009619
They can make giant robot bones in space, I'm sure they can make large tin foil sheets in space. Also one of the ground atmo processors survived until the "current" era. It's those things that everyone mysteriously forgot how to make.
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>>98009725
Here's a tell about the compliment on how normal you are was not sincere: It was received on 4 chan dot org.
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>>98009757
They can't even make warships, let alone a megastructure meant to shield a planet from a star.
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>>98009619
>The entire reason venus was good for a while was because of that megastructure built by the star league.
The surface pressure on Venus is a seperate problem from the intense heat. Any technical ability to unfuck Venus for human habitation would be better spent pretty much anywhere else further from the sun.
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>>98010196
The atmosphere conditioners were the easy part. The unique soil of venus ended up making it one of the most agriculturally productive planets in the entire inner sphere before the civil war.
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>>98010255
>the easy part.
Anything is easy if you don't have to explain how it works and can just make shit up.
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>>98010261
Converting carbon dioxide to oxygen and converting enough atmospheric gas into forms that do not contribute to pressure is easier than orbital megastructures I imagine.
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>>98010141
>They can't even make warships
Damn anon put the claws away
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>>98010277
>I imagine
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>>98010329
I know plants can convert carbon dioxide to oxygen but I've never seen them build orbital stellar shades.
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>>98010196
The main problem is more the time it took to actually terraform. It was upwards of 20 or 30 years of actively dumping ice and atmosphere before anyone could even step foot on it, and another couple decades for it to be the kind of place you'd actually want to be walking around on. The RotS is too busy funding terrorist attacks and genociding cultures via forced migration of entire planetary populations to dedicate the time and resources to repeating Venus.
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>>98009334
>why do people hate me
>teehee I'm going to make everything fay and weird
You made gay jokes about an anons dying terminally ill father, you post cropped gay hentai with ms paint added clan interface tatoos to make it 'on topic', and try to turn everything into some weird homosexual fantasy.
And then you wonder why people here hate you? Why people in general dislike you? Why nobody wants to interact with you? I know gay people whom would be disgusted by how you act.
If you want to know why your hated so, take a long hard look in the mirror, the answer will be staring right back.
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>>98009757
It speaks volumes that even the Clans don't have a DOME. Star League truly was the apex of human technology, despite its many faults.
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>>98008974
>someone mentioning they had a fav mini of mine
It's the KING CRAB!

Second place is a battle between the Marauder in pic related and your Slaanesh Mad Dog
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>>98010371
You seem very sensitive. This website might not be for you.
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Who might be considered 'hostis humani generis' by the factions in the 31st century, other than the pirates and maybe WoB?
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>>98010636
Dark caste in clan space.
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Will the Jenner IIC and/or the Locust IIC be good enough for the Elementals taxi roll?
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>>98010690
They'd be slowed down a bit but are perfectly fine.
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>>98010636
Pirates only sometimes, and by some people. Oberon, the Valkyrate, Circinus, Tortuga and the Marians survive decades and centuries being obvious pirates one or two jumps from great house worlds.
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>>98010690
If you happen to be using that one Jade Falcon BA with Magnetic Clamps, sure. But most clan BA (and most BA in general, but especially clan BA) can only ride omnimechs.
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>>98010504
I'm a straight conservative Christian male between the ages of 18-35 who hates liberals, faggots, and liberal tranny faggots. This is exactly the right fucking website for me. Have a long jump on a short rope.
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>>98010756
I forgot about this as I keep mistaking magnetic claws for clamps. Do the Clans even have BA with clamps?
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>>98010822
As far as I know it's just the Jade Falcon version of the Stormbird. Mag clamps are an IS technology that the clans never developed their own version of. Probably because the idea of trueborn elementals being stuck on some second line shitbox offends them on a conceptual level.
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I'm gunna do it.

I'm gunna paint my canopies and laser lens BEFORE the rest of the mini.
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>>98010681
I hope we eventually get some really dark fiction coming out of the dark caste. I want a dark caste crusade "clan". The second, more nihilistic, wave to take terra. Integrating WoB tech from escaped domini. They don't want to regain terra. They want to burn it in a misguided attempt stop the endless wars. But they'll succeed. Cuz they're furries and not IS sourced. Finally, the Combine is the only house still holding most of its original planets and claims itself the new home of humanity with the absence of terra.
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>>98010845
>Probably because the idea of trueborn elementals being stuck on some second line shitbox offends them on a conceptual level.
Yet they will be perfectly fine riding into battle on the back of Old MacDonald?
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>>98011218
That's omni MacDonald to you, quaiff?
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>>98011233
>Using a contraction
Freebirth spy!
I really want to see a battle where the Clans invade a planet using nothing but tractors towing Elementals
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>>98011244
>their barbarous contractions
>our proud and noble portmanteaus
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>>98011244
Isn't this thing the only actual omnitractor?
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>>98010504
Nice falseflag faggot. That argument mat work for /b/ but /tg/ used to be one of the nicer boards and /btg/ one of the nicer generals, standing alongside /hwg/ as having one of the closer communities.
Just because (you)r kind have flooded in and tried to ruin it, doesn't mean we have to take it
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>>98011277
I think there is a few more but it has been a while since I checked all the logistics vehicles of battletech out.
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>>98011320
>/btg/ one of the nicer generals
Lol
Lmao, even
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>>98009766
>you
Im not the anon that was directed at i'm a third party commenting on it.

Is it just me or is 4chan being inundated with a wave of newfags lately? it's the last few months now that an unprecedented number of posters don't seem to understand how the whole "anonymous posting" thing fucking works here.
These are not private conversations, you are talking to a group, not an individual.
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>>98010758
>Christian
But you worship jews, who are responsible for the presence of all those things you claim to hate.
You're like a nigger who claims to hate white people but whose existence revolves around the technology and infrastructure created and maintained by those same whites.
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>>98009757
I think everyone realized that a fragile tinfoil sheet in space will be the first thing to go in any war, and when that shade goes everything on the surface is fucked. Better to terraform planets that don’t rely on a fragile megastructure in space that can be destroyed by missiles from probably one ASF.
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Is an HPPC+CAP+TC and 2x SSRM6s a good weapons loadout for a 5/8/0 60t mech?
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>>98011692
There's been a lot that don't know board or even general history, to the point that they don't even know about things that happened last year. We've had people getting confused about the threads dislike of bottom, or not knowing about Shimmy posting here or Catalysts reputation or even the matches that one anon ran last year (I miss those), encouraging manic, trying to critique nuln...

>>98011657
As horrifying as it may be to you, this board predates your Internet access and was a far better place even 4 - 5 years ago.
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>>98012000
I'm not saying nuln and bottom are the same person, but I am saying they have the same negative attention seeking behavior where they spam pictures and try to provoke people into responding to them.



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