Nazdreg when?? Edition>Box Reveal:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/x2allqya/warhammer-40000-armageddon-whats-in-the-box/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Alternative rules:https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Previous Thread:>>97990336>thread question:What additional kits will SM and Orks get post-launch?
>>97993774>TQ>SMI don't know but SM will get too many and Orks not enough
>>97993774>TQLootas/burnas based on rumors surrounding their "while stocks last" warning on the site.I'd also guess nobz and meganobz. Would really love a new deff dread to go alongside the new walker.
What's the funniest single model he can get dev wounds against?Burning chariots are my guess
so wtf is 40k Armageddon?
>>97993774>>thread question:>What additional kits will SM and Orks get post-launch?Grot stuff hopefully
>>97993774>What additional kits will SM and Orks get post-launch?I retain hope for a mid line battle tank or equivalent profile so I have a good option for looted predators/leman russes/etcotherwise lootas/burnas and stormboyz probably
Got any plans for the Big Dudes collage?
>>97993774>TQWhat units are currently old/missing?I'll only look at generic units, so I'll ignore things like a dark angel ravenwing refreshSM>Land Raider>Rhino>Rhino chassis vehicle>Multipart Outriders/Bikes>Venerable Dreadnought Orks>Bikes>Meganobz>Nobz>lootas>flash gitz>trukk>possibly killa kans/deff dreads>stormboyz (and character)There could always be some new unit or FW unit brought into plastic
>>97993809Probably a discolord.
more progress
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wbxczgef/new40k-novel-revealed/
>>97993826I'm either going to skip it and focus on painting immortals, or paint a battlesuit commander.>>97992750Smurfs if you're going to paint a successor instead of the founding legion. DAngels if you aren't.
I checked reddit and it was actually real lmao
>>97993826I have a defiler and mutlilators to build, so probably one of them, though I have had a knight sitting on the shelf forever too I could finally build
>>97993862I do not believe people actually read BL books
>>97993809A neurotyrant leading neurogaunts
>>97992750Adopt minor chapter with no lore or make your own
>>97993774> nazdreg> kaptin badrukk> freebootas as a Killteam ( dual kit to do pirate orks or flash gitz)> lootas/burnas> dakkawalker with extra options> warboss with extra options> big fucking tank
>>97993862>dawn of fire>season of firethey really don't know what to do
>>97993892It's so fucking generic and boring it hurts. And it's their fault, they are designing this shit by commitee and behind layers of rules of what to do and not to do, just so they can have control over it.Congrats GW, you have your predictable product. It's ass, but ass is predictable.
>>97993862Oh boy another book about Humans Fighting Orks on the designated Humans Fighting Orks planet which will remajn forever contested because GW wants it to be a designated Warzone.
>>97993862ʷʰʸ ᶦˢ ᶦᵗ ˢᵒ ˢᵐᵃˡˡ ʷᵗᶠ
>>97993878people read dan abnett, and the HH books. thats about it.
>>97993826I'll finish my Leviathan if I have time, I still want to finish my Raptors before my next game
>>97993906It's as bland, boring, and predictable as possible and yet it'll still sell better than any non-Imperium book they put out.
>>97993826Im gonna do a Forgefiend, should have enough time but I want to finish a different project first
>>97993878They are a great backdrop while painting
>>97993912Surely they'll take the planet by the end of 11th.
>>97993924True, as is the power of appealing to the normalfag shallownigger
I like orks :D>>97993826I got the stompa boyz big mek, and I’m planning on having an arrow sign pointing at him that says “dude” on it, and a big ruler next to him, but I’m kind of torn if I want to have the ruler show he’s 5’6 or if I want it to be 6 foot.
>>97993920low DHTIt's why he's not suffering from marine pattern baldness
>>97993826I'm low on ideas if a Vyper doesn't count as a big guy (for jetbikes).
Took a break of a few months because if I saw one more mention of Decalfag I was going to go insane, now it seems things have calmed down (a little).How's everyone doing.
>>97993939its kind of on the small to medium end of things.
>>97993912>which will remajn forever contested because GW wants it to be a designated Warzone.No we'll have the imperium on the back foot, surging forward, and taking the planet back (kinda) all in one book so GW can move on to the next warzone in 3 months, it's how theyve been doing things for years
>>97993946Should have kept the original head
>>97993946doing just fine, admiring that broodlady of yours
>>97993946I like the brainy head fitting snugly into the carapace but I don't think the lack of neck works there with the boobs, I'd consider removing the lower jaw for some tasteful tentacles or mandibles or proboscis instead, something that leaves a bit of space for the boobs.
>>97993823These are incredible. What are they kitbashed from or are they 3d prints?
>>97993878They've never been the greatest but soon they will be unreadable. Seems every non-SM book right now is about some kind of girlboss.
>>97993970nta but necromunda cawdor walkers and possibly some AoS/ToW squig riding grots by the looks of it
>>97993946Makes me think of this guy
>>97993970mostly cawdor ridge walkersgrotskull's workshop did a whole rebel grots army that was meant to showcase on white dwarf before the legal team shot it down
>>97993946I’m good just going back to painting my orks, after reworking how I did it the paint scheme is relatively easy to turn around
>>97993926How do you read and paint at the same time
>>97993963I honestly might just give it away and paint another one without the boobs, the whole point was to use the base pat head, and the big dumpy might be enough to make it horny yet not outright laughable.
>>97993997audiobook I assume
>>97993997
>>97993993the pulpy brain head and fat claws of the first real genestealers are an underappreciated element drawn directly from even older pulpy aliens than the xenomorph
>>97994004Then it's not reading. Yes I'm gonna be that guy today.>>97994009Why are you locked in the bathroom?
This guy ended up being such an ordeal I'm glad I'm finally done painting and just need to varnish it. What a nightmare to try and get positioned right on the base and make sure all the limbs actually fit. And painting the vent tubes made me want to die.
>>97993862Well, I thought they couldn't announce anything else related to 11th edition launch, but they proved me wrong.
>>97994026>Then it's not readingPreach it, brother
>>97994026>Then it's not readingLiterally who cares
>>97993826Do Possessed count as big dudes? Otherwise I will focus on painting scenery.
>>97994026>Then it's not readingFax, my brotherSpit yo shit indeed
>>97993826Maybe a Malcador if I can finish up my infantry
>>97993823Where you got this anon? Look superbI like grots btw (and squigs!)
>>97993946>>97993826Can this be my big dude? It's the biggest dude in the GSC range.
>>97994049NTA but yes they're big dudes.
can someone say setting positive about marine half of the box? anything...
>>97994078If the eventual multipart kits have more options I will consider this redesign a success.
...are any of the incubi supposed to be women or is it just 5 murderhobos larping as scorpions
>>97994078The chaplain will be decent conversion fodder
>>97994089Incubi can be women. The current host for Drazhar was one.
>>97994078If you are staring marines is good i guess?
>>97994094maybe i should've specified that i meant from the 5-man box but i guess it could be the small front horns head
>>97994078The Librarian model is alright
>>97994078The land speeder looks nice and I might buy it off my brother if he doesn't want it.The greek helmet on the captain is cool and the other helmet is a great extra bit.I love how they made the librarian asian and then on stream said "he'd be great for white scars". That's how I decided to look at his face closer and figure out he was asian in the first place.All unhelmeted marines have helmeted options is a good move, that is good, we like that, we want that option. Please give more options.
>>97994033Great job anon
>>97994078They look cool. The captain, librarian and heavy bolter gravis are my favorites.
>>97994033>red makes things faster>hive fleet kraken is red and is noted to have the fast organisms>lobsters aren't red, they only become red when heated >faster tyranids have higher metabolism, thus higher temperatures>being faster makes them redork wisdom truly transcends time
Reminder that tactical rocks inflate the sprue and take space for something else.I'll never shut up about tactical rocks sucking ass.
Taufrens, finally the Gue'vesa we've been waiting for
>>97994117the one on the new weirdboy sprue is even worse, like 1/4 of the sprue
>>97994117You're right, but that's a limited edition model, not really a kit warring for sprue space for its optional bits.
>>97994119This is how I Gue'vesa
>>97994119the fucking knee pads...
>>97994127What do you have against kneepads? Protecting your knees is very important.
>>97994119>that amount of female headsfuck off, gw
>>97994122>>97994124>muh limited editionIt's not just a limited edition model, it was tied to having a subscription.But here's a character model
Ork factions focushttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ahlcjhn0/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-orks/
85$ model. 1/4 of the sprue is tactical rock and special effects
>>97994161>unit upgrade from RF1 to RF2, retaining sus1 on waaghis this *a* middle ground between sus1 and sus2?
>>97993826I have a repainted Tau Commander. Been trying to have him painted in a Cammo. I hope to finish him to 9th of May.
>>97994168I dont hate the tactical rock or effects on this model. I hate it on random nobodies.
>>97994161>detachments are to buff X unit keywordOh ffs this shit still
>>97994161Potentially important change is no more rerolling with Overwatch, and potentially note overwatch-esque strats or rules.
>>97994189You can mix detachments now though, so long as all the detachments get a cost related to how much of their army they buff, that's alright.
>>97994189Holy nerfRIP blood axes and rip flavour I guess
>>97993867How pathetic you have to be that even Redditors think you are taking this too seriously.
>>97994145He's autistic, please be patient.
>>97994145>>97994227Fishing for (you)s? How's it going for ya?
>>97993774>TQFor SM terminators to replace all Gravis, maybe a Baal RepEx upgrade sprue for the Blood Angels, and a new Pedro Kantor, with enough bits to be built as a HQ for any chapter.Orks will maybe get a grot and squig kill team. But not much else.
>>97994148a limited edition model limited to a yearly subscription is still a limited modelwhile in the dwarf's case it's for supporting an actual visual feature of the miniature, the skywalking
>>97994212at this point I'm genuinely convinced he's autistic, there's absolutely no way someone functional would act like this for so long
>>97993365>>97994212>it's realHe genuinely is chris chan tier retard lolcow
>>97994115It transcends entire game lines. What're the fastest Magic card decks? Red. What are the strongest Magic card creatures? Green. Best Magic card color for looting other player's artifacts? Blue. You can't make this shit up.
>>97994235>mutant is autistic What a stunning revelation
>>97994212>polack
>>97994250https://youtu.be/2t6xYJ49Uds?is=HYw9TqwlXYSrZID7
>>97994238That's one of the saddest, funniest things I've ever seen, 2nd only to the creation of r/SpaceWolves in the first place.
>>97994212Mutant is this places Chris Chan, he's the biggest lolcow we've had in years.
On one hand I am shocked that so many people quickly jump to defend and explain why tactical rocks are not an issue. On the other hand it makes perfect sense for this issue to not only persist but to thrive if that's the common sentiment.No wonder GW keeps increasing their prices and having a character tax if people are more than willing to pay so much for extra plastic.
Tactical rocks are a non issue. It just allows for more creative basing. The problem is, as always, the price.
>>97993878I had to stop around the last few HH books before siege of terra and had started skipping a lot of them. I was reading them hung over or strung out to cut down on the amount of thinking, just light nothing pulp and they were still too fucking dumb to stomach at that point.
My 40K circle is thinking of doing an AoS army. I know this isn’t th AoS thread, but is the transition strange? Will I hate it? Looking at the abilities, some be like, “Choose an enemy unit and flip a chair. If a leg breaks off check what direction the foot is facing. If it is between East and Southwest roll a D3. On a 2+ that unit takes 3 mortal wounds.”
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97994282Ah yes, the sheer creativity of "one foot on rock" or the ever daring "both feet on rocks".
>>97994293you must be really sensitive to have felt it from so far back
>>97994293why should they
>>97994282>It just allows for more creative basingIt doesn't.You could always add your own tactical rocks or equivalent.If your mini has their legs/support in a specific way then you have to conform to that>you can modify the minithen it's not about the tactical rock anymore, because you could also modify a standard mini to a different pose.It is 100% an issue, you just don't care about it because it doesn't affect you personally. Go fuck yourself.
>model has two feet on a rock>rock is perfectly parallel to the ground so it doesn't even make the pose more dynamicguess the model
>>97994306coteaz
>>97994291You and your circle will play it once and then immediately forget about. Maybe one person will tet to bring it up every now and then while the models collect dust bit nobody will really feel like remembering how to play.AoS is a tremendously boring game which devolves into units just charging in and deleting enemy units with little reactability, or Wizards simply deleting units with the mandatory overpriced endless spells every faction has to take.
>>97994264>a cheap and easy (lazy) way to add "interest" to a model >necessary for support. literally keeps the model from tipping over or breaking>it's a "flying" unitflying units leaping off a tiny rock look worse than if they were just standing on the ground like the old assault marines. A Warp talon with his toes on a rock doesn't look like he's flying. he looks like his jump pack is broken and he needs to run really fast and hop off a stone so he can get .2 seconds of air.
>>97994306
>>97994291you'll mostly just not like how wounds are treated as health and how you count backwards for that. Coherency also takes some time to get used to.
>If Waagh is active, your shootas can-Zzz Bad Moons ded
>>97994322>a cheap and easy (lazy) way to add "interest" to a modelThis. Nuff said. And they lap that shit up.
>>97994306I don't know. All the ones I've seen are basically doing the splits so their feet are at weird angles so you can't just put the model on a flat base (especially since most models now with the stupid puzzle assembly have part of the limb integrated into the base so you can't just ignore it, you have to try and cut around and resculpt it).
>>97994317bingo
>>97994264You brought terrible examples for your shit.tactical rocks do take space on the sprue that could have been used for more models, more options, or to have smaller sprue with a smaller cost for the final product.but then you post as examples kits that don't really have or would have had options or more models, nor would have a lower price because it's characters.while ignoring the actual practical uses tactical rocks CAN and do have sometimes, like supporting a pose that's otherwise difficult to pin onto the base.If you weren't a retard you would have posted the disgrace that's the norn emissary: that's a kit that benefitted from being as large as possible and having multiple options and it wastes more spruespace on its pointless base elevation than it does on alternative bits.
>>97994291you will rage quit the first time you get double turnedlike totally fuck that shit
the new ork boyz have way too much unnecessary detail and random crap tacked onto them. painting 60 of them will only become insufferable. not even contrast paints or airbrushing will save you from painting the random buckles and necklaces and buttplugs dangling from your dude that will get shot off the board turn 1 They really found perfection with the old boyz kit. pic rel
>The """"""""fun""""""""" lovin' ork players are upset their rules so far are fair, balanced and reasonableOf course
Thinking about buying picrel on ebay, but I’d want to magnetize the feet so I can use it in games too. Any good examples?
>>97994362‘Fair, balanced and reasonable’ that’s our problem we’re playing orks to have fun. Waacfag ork players don’t exist
>>97994345>terrible examples>because kits that don't really have or would have had options or more models, nor would have a lower price because it's characters.Alternate heads, alternate legs, alternate options, options to make it a generic HQ instead of a named character.Take the cadian castellan kit, which has 2 different torsos of different pose (one leaning forward), two different arms for each side), plus head options, plus weapon options.>while ignoring the actual practical uses tactical rocks CAN and do have sometimes, like supporting a pose that's otherwise difficult to pin onto the base.You mean the problem that the designers created themselves?Create a problem, sell a solution, great.Again: go fuck yourself. You disgust me.
>>97994362>balanced is when you eat shit and can't kill shit and fucking die to a stiff breeze because timmy can't mentally comprehend his badly positioned primarch dying to some shooting
>>97994382>Waacfag ork players don’t exist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>More dakka exisited
>>97994212I'm getting secondhand embarrasment damn
>>97994119>guardsmen who use cloaksWhy not make these guys tanith instead of cadians?
>What's up in the Warhammer 40k thread?>they're arguing about rocksEvery fucking time.
When are the new Abnett books coming out?
>>97994370I think the feet, or soles, are modled into the knight
>>97994393>You mean the problem that the designers created themselves?cool poses aren't necessarily problemsyou have fundamental issues in identifying what's the point of a miniature
>>97994293starting to worry that when it does happen we'll still have extra vehicle crew but they will be chopped up with legs melted into the chassis
>>97994407better than the schizo of the month
The unironic reason for 'tactical rocks' is as follows:- To make a model more 'interesting' (Yes I know)- To reduce the amount of basing paste/material someone needs to use to complete the base- To add 'variety' to a base (basing material will often be different than the rock, both in colour and appearence)- Most importantly, to prevent you from fucking up the paste/basing so it gets on the shoes of the model. It can be very difficult to fill between shoes or even on the outside without fucking it up.
Does a tactical rock in the line of sight rule? Can I shoot at something if I see their pet rock?
>>97994412>cool poses aren't necessarily problemsWho are you quoting?If I'm a designer and I decide to give the character a flimsy pose, it's on me, I can't justify creating another problem to fix the first one.This isn't even a pose exclusive issue. If I decide to give a character a flimsy rapier rather than a chainsword, I can't use it an excuse to add more things.You need to justify it, you need to make it worth it.Now obviously it's easy to make it worth it to people like you, you pay for lesser things and you defend it, so you're not hard to please.>the point of a miniatureLet's hear it, because I can bet we don't have the same definition and standards, so let's hear yours, let's see how low it goes.
Dunno, I enjoy tactical rocks. I am a greytide aficionado, so I like it when my basing is grey as well.
>>97993826Thousand Sons Helbrute walking down a road paved with dead Space Wolves
Slapping a character in the Raptors box to inflate the box price is such a dick move. $98 maple bucks sucks if you wanted to run 2 full units.
>>97994078If you have literally zero marines, it's not a bad start box. Basic battleline, lots of HQs, melee damage dealers, elite shooting unit and a vehicle. Provided that the box is a decent price (For argument, lets say it's £150 and people split for £70, cheaper than a combat patrol) it's far better value than most other kits.
>>97994450it's such a dogshit trend, the servitor KT also had the BSF techdude in it fo no reason whatsoever
>>97994426>the reason isThe reason is because it's a cheap way to make a model look cooler to retards and it makes the model bigger so you can sell more plastic.>basing materialYou don't need more than some sand, glue and tufts and fake grass if you're fancy.>varietyDo you mean "contrast"? Again, why does the kit need this? Just make it yourself, you have a lot more choices this way, rocks, wrecks, rubble, corpses, etc.
>>97994078The Captain looks pretty good honestly.
>>97994450jej
>>97993826that purple termie sorc is 10/10 goddamn
>>97994443>>97994448Primaris Tactical Rocks when
>>97994161These new detachments sound a lot like the old 4th edition subfaction rules. Would be cool if they added a section in the codex saying what detachments some of the most famous canon subfactions use. Still missing warlord traits and relics so that non-named warlords can be a viable option.
What is the biggest tactical rock GW has done? 40k or AoS
>>97994291AoS used to be a fun beer and pretzels game, it has since been captured by more competitive autism than even 10e 40k.
Do we know if 11th will have points for individual models and specific war gear options?
>>97993826After 4 failed glue attempts to fix where it broke off the feet, I'm going to pin both feet of my XV-88 with metal railguns
>>97994507The one King's rock from original Warhammer fantasy in the 90s.
>>97994507
>>97994498Isn't it amazing that guard had this fot a whooping 3 months before they announced 10th?
I was thinking of getting into this hobby, but I was told by people at my LGS that the game is like 90% like and the rest is just what you bring and there is zero skill involved. Now these people all mainly play TCG so I am not sure how much credit I should give them so wanted to get another opinion.
>>97994507Relative to the rest of the model this guy's gotta be pretty high up there heh
>>97994510It will have neither of those things
>>97994520>the game is like 90% like and the rest is justwhat?
>>97994264I don't mind tactical rocks, my issue isn't the scenic base, it's the fact that they are giving characters bases several sizes bigger than they should have. There's no fucking reason why Asmodai should be on a 60mm base when he fits on a 32mm like every other marine in regular power armour.
>>97994530he probably meant to say "luck"
>>97994525Damn
>>97994519No? The current IG consolidation happened at the tail end of 9th. And the system IG used for all of 8th and most of 9th wasn't this one either.
>>97994520it doesn't work as a game of skillsit's all down to listbuilding and abusing poorly written rulesit's a game to roleplay narrative shit, if you aren't interested in that, or if your gaming group isn't interested in that, simply don't get into the game because it's not worth it
>>97994531It's the same issue as tactical rocks, same origins: making the base bigger is making the miniature look bigger, which appeals to retards.
>>97994450Then wait until it gets a 40k box release, without the KT tax?
>>97994498>These new detachments sound a lot like the old 4th edition subfaction rulesOh fuck we wrapped around and became 4E all over again?
>>97994557I fucking wish. 4th's core rules are way better than 10th and 11th's. 11th's new missions do sound cool.
>>97994401we already have tanith models. I swear to god every guard fag is>why did we get glorp schitto regimentmodel>I want a second bang wiggum regiment modelshut the fuck up
>>97994545>which appeals to retards.Its not like people used cork, bark or actual rocks to enhance characters size for all eternity.
>>97994291Aos 4th edition is kind of polarizing because they "shrimplified" an already shrimple game (relative to 40k) for the sake of >balance. Lots of previously fun stuff replaced with bland deal d3 damage type abilities, that sort of thing.It's not all like that thankfully but it really depends on what army you're interested in. A very sin and bin era. If you're into lumineth or something you'll be fine, if you want idoneth or nighthaunt or something you're kind of fucked. Generally the more recent tomes are the better ones.Anyway if you guys are just starting out you'll probably be entering via spearhead and my little rant doesn't really apply there. I know it's cliche at this point, but it really is an excellent little gamemode. Especially nice to dip your toes into because it really is just one box and you're good to go.What army would you hypothetically be interested in?
>>97994566We're talking about selling models and marketing, don't be a faggot
>>97994568>they "shrimplified" an already shrimple game (relative to 40k) for the sake of >balance.Sounds like 10th too.
>>97994411> What are clippers, Alex?It is extremely easy to separate him and reuse it. Are you just a hobbylet incapable of imagination and problem solving?
>>97994566that was up to the hobbyist though. Now you're paying for more plastic you might not even want instead of potentially more options for customisation
>>97994498Those are from 3rd. The codexes from 3rd and 4th tended to work with decent cross compatibility though. >>97994557It will be ways to sell the appearance of it but in a more corporately approved sales forward lateral integration value proposition focus enshitification paradigm.
>>97994291It's kinda fun but it's almost the same game as 40k. If any one of your buddies like guard they'll like Cities of Sigmar. If anyone likes Orks they'll like Ironjawz because dey's Orkz. My big problem is that those are the two armies I like, except maybe Lumineth, and none of the other ones do anything for me, so it could be similar for you and your guys, which can suck because you're pigeonholed into one thing that might be like dragging your dick through broken glass to play depending on the meta. For instance, CoS is really fucking hard to play without weird uppy downy shenanigans and the busted ass Callis and Toll unit because you can't fucking shoot anything if all the models in the unit tiptoe next to a terrain piece. A thing I don't care for in 40k is the reliance on centerpiece models, and that's exacerbated in AoS.
>>97994598>Those are from 3rd. The codexes from 3rd and 4th tended to work with decent cross compatibility though.It's the second IG codex for 3rd which was valid for the entirety of 4th. All the 4th edition subfactions worked like this. Early 3rd was variant armylists.
>>97994580This nigga was asking about magnetization, and that's gonna be more complicated if you need to cut of and reglue the soles. Also, you don't use a clipper fot that kind of thing, it will become deformed from the force, you're better of using a saw blade on your exacto.
>>979945399th had custom regements
Do you think we’ll get custom warlords in 11th edition proper? I heard AOS has a similar system.
>>97994623guards custom regiments SUCKED because admech and eldars custom craftworlds/forgeworlds where so OP that when guard finally got shat out they made it as weak as possible to not break the game before abandoning it and going to 10th
>>97994625AoS and 40k rules seem to be made similar on purpose so people who play one can be attracted to playing the other.
>>97994626Doesn't matter, they still had custom regiments for 3 months
>>97994564I assume the reason there are so many Guard regiments with historical themes is so you could repurpose models from other wargames. Take your Napoleonic War minis, switch their muskets with las-muskets, and you've got Scintillan Fusiliers. Bunch of Soviets from WW2? Throw em in, we'll call them Valhallans. And so on.If that's the case, making bespoke models doesn't make a lot of sense unless they are very popular styles (Catachans, Kriegers).
>>97993892>dawn of fire>season of fireat least they're clearly "mainline story books" that everybody since 8th edition will recognize as pure marvel slop
>>97994520Never EVER listen to TCG players. On anything. They barely even have a hobby.
>>97994641Instead of making 40k shittier so it's more like AoS they could make AoS better so it's more like old 40k though.
Anybody know where I can buy two of the old armoured sentinels? I bought one before the refresh and to run three I need two more matching ones. ty
>>97994610Sure. Follow the reply chain. >like the old 4th edition sub faction rules >those are from 3rd but worked in 4th >those are from 3rd but worked in 4th plus some shit about subfactions which wasn't even a term at the time They're all variant armylists you retard. That's how it works.
>>97994660warhammer is MTG type boardgame, sorry
>>97994663No. 3rd edition subfactions were literally a separate armylist. In late 3rd some armies, like IG and CSM got a new codex with a completely different design structure that was then used in all of 4th for every other faction.
>>97994625AoS has the same system we got early this year.
>>97994691Both are shit and a justification to remove every bit of customization from the core rules.
>>97994681How come this reads so well compared to the new stuff?
>>97994713It wan't written to fit in a card the stop selling after the first week.
>>97994691Oh, darn.
>>97994713people were more sophisticated back then
I need to make some minimally painted gargoyles for my gsc army for a tournament, I don't really like the model so I'm just going to print them in filament and throw them away when I'm done, can I mix a little bit of paint into the primer so I can do a single, rough coat?
>>97994681>fluff and rules combined in a beautiful symbiosis
You have to imagine the genius of Greed Workshop. Warhammer today is just a tabletop game where they sell you paper and plastic at high price while advertising great miniatures that are just sprues, you're the one to build and paint them.Ideally you want to get rid of customization, that way you save on plastic and complexity on your end, you just make X miniatures that look great on marketing shots, the software cuts it on a sprue and you sell it as is.No wonder their stocks are going up.
>>97994713Because the rules writers back then realized that "less is more" and keeping things simple to understand was better for the whole game.
>>97993878I'm currently reading Fire Warrior.It's pretty good.
>>97994752You mean to tell me that removing all the core systems that kept things consistent and easy to remember and replace them with stratagems, metacurrencies and a wacky gimmick ability or three on every single unit isn't actually simpler? Can't be true.
>>97994660Kinda hoping to see points costs for wargear return so it’ll spread back to AoS but that’s probably going to remain a distant dream
>>97994713Slamming the lore and the mechanics together reads well, but its annoying as fuck when you are trying to look something up. Gotta skip the first two or three sentences of "The Shootermans are renowned throughout the Imperium for their shooting prowess" before you get to what that actually means (+2 to shooting).
>>97994713Because it served the setting. I don't mean the story/fluff, I mean the context, which is a space fantasy wargame played by hobby, historicals and RP nerds. The purpose wasn't the stock market, the board and the shareholders.This means that people weren't drooling retards, they came with a prerequisite understanding or were curious to learn.
>>97994760The fact that they've not mentioned points at all has me worried. At this point they HAVE to know power levels are shit and only make their jobs harder.
>>97994747James Workshop, genius business, plastic crack seller and nerd's wallets hammer.
>>97994759It's shrimple, really
>>97993826Whats the theme? Just a big dude?
>>97994759Shrimplified anon, not Shrimple. Remember that.
>>97994553The KT box IS the 40k release. You're never going to see say, Raveners, get a normal box like they had before their refresh. Same goes for the Murderwing raptors.
>>97994760Wargear is never coming back to 40k because of kits. No models, no rules.Sure they'll keep a few weapon options, you can choose the A pistol or the B pistol that are in the kit, but you can't choose your gear from the arsenal.The only reason crucible champions get a sort of wargear choice is because they're kitbashed, and even then the options are limited on purpose.
>>97994774Yup. Whatever you feel is a big dude works.
>>97994776just like Krieg right?
>>97994777Also the Crucible isn't coming back. GW is going to quietly ignore that it exists going forward now that people have bought the Maelstrom books for the FOTM stuff that 99% of players don't use.
>>97994775I haven't touched 10th but good god isn't that a scummy statement from them?>it's simpler, but not simpleWhat the fuck does it mean? What's the fucking metric? It's like>It's different, but still the sameOkay what's different? What's the same? What is simpler?The whole thing? Do you mean there are simpler things in it, or that the whole thing is simpler? Again, what metric?America exblain
Which old edition should i play if 11 ends being as shitty as 10?
>>97994784nta but I'm still sad the krieg KT sprue isn't available anymore, I want to grab two of them.>>97994776Just wait a year or two, they'll be moved to 40k when the new season of KT drops and they squat the previous KT
>>97994776Just like Krieg? Just like the Blooded?
>>97994802between 3 and 5, 2 if you're really brave and into that shit. The rules are straightfoward enough that you can port newer units anyway.
I read the other replies and thank you all. Seem like it might be a one and one thing. Oh well, lots of money for some nice models at least.>>97994606My one buddy plays DG so he’s already chosen Maggotkin, the other one plays orks so he’ll likely end up doing that. Not sure what the other 2 will do yet, they’re still deciding. I play Deldar so really just settled on Nighthaunt because I like the aesthetic.
>>97994777But the kits DO have the options. They just refuse to give them different point costs because Cruddace was retarded and GW would rather double down than fix anything.
>>97994809>port newer unitsare there any homebrews who have done the legwork?
>>97994803nothing has killed my interest more than how little KT teams last
>>979948023rd to 5th is best. 30k is a good modernization of the system with the best morale rules in all of GW.
>>97994795The original statement was "simplified, not simple". Which is, you know, a perfectly laudable goal that would consist in making things easier to memorize and understand without sacrificing actual depth. It's something hard to do but that a lot of games have actually managed to do.It became a meme because of how bad they fucked it it up.
>>97994834>a perfectly laudable goal that would consist in making things easier to memorize and understand without sacrificing actual depthFunniest thing is they did the complete opposite. Destroyed all depth and made everything awful to memorize so you are forced to constantly reference their ugly datacards copied from AoS.
>>97994777crucible is pretty open ended, but maybe thats a per faction thing. I found agents and eldar to have a pretty big armory
>>97994802Personally I’m gonna hit up whatever other anons recommend here, and if that fails I’ll just go to OPR for rules
>>97994795It's literally the most typical corpo marketing speak.It's the epitome of "You talk a lot without saying anything."
>>97993862>Jude ReidEh, could be decent. The Morven Vahl book was pretty good.
>>97994848Kek
>>97994843>Funniest thing is they did the complete oppositeThat's a GW tradition. You remember "We are going to remove most rerolls in 10th" followed the day after by the reveal of pre nerf Oath of Moment?
>>97994820>the optionsthey have some options, not all the options, and the options they do have on their datasheet is limited to what's in the kit. That's why you get shit like 2 profiles for the jump captain, or 2 profiles for the gravis captain.>>97994834It's not even hard to simplify. Just keep things consistent and open. If your system is using 3 lists those can be very long lists, in the end it's just 3 things to nail down.On the contrary if I ask you to remember 10 things from 10 different lists of only 5 things each, it's a nightmare to remember, despite there being less information in total.Also doesn't help that GW makes "new" special rules that are actually an existing special rule but named differently and worded differently yet effectively the same. Because for GW it's easier to treat every new datasheet like its brand new detached thing.
>>97994848lmao based
>>97994869>It's not even hard to simplifyIt is when you don't want to strip away depth when you do that.
>>97994869>That's why you get shit like 2 profiles for the jump captain, or 2 profiles for the gravis captain.Not really. The jump captain can get a thunder hammer, a chainsword and a power weapon and all three currently cost the exact same points.
>>97993826Maybe I will try to finish Great Knarloc or make my custom HQ on a big Krootox, which I only "sketched" for now with a blue tack
>>97994867Man I remember when they said 8th was the last big edition drop and everything after was gonna just be errata and rules updates
>>97994875Depth isn't the opposite of simplicity. I guess it depends on what people mean by depth. So I'd wager that it is not hard to simplify and keep depth.
>>97994884They never said that, I don't get where that meme came from.
>>97994878>not really>is not a negation of what is saidI'm too sober for this
>There will also be 70 new and updated detachments launching with the new edition. These will mostly be brand new sets of rules, with a few returning favourites from places like the Grotmas series.>a few returning from... Grotmasoh so it's actually gonna just be a handful of new detachments and they're including the grotmas ones in the 70wow
>>97994886In 40k terms I see depth as having a variety of systems that allow for different tactics and things to consider during gameplay aswell as customization and player expression. I see simplicity as making those systems intuitive and straightforward to use. GW thinks it's the complete opposite of that.
>>97994891The negation is that there's not two profiles for the captain, just one with both options costing the same. They haven't split the datasheet.
>>97994892Yeah this edition's gonna crash and burn.
>>97994898So it's two datasheets in one, you can either have the loadout of mini A or the loadout of mini B.
>>97994892>The NL detachment will be the Grotmas one that relies on battleshock to do anythingKill me now
>>97994892>70 new and retooled things>it's 10 new and 60 retooledShit should be illegal. Just say X new and X retooled, by obfuscating the information you're lying to people by insinuating the new ones are more numerous as that's what's expected.
>>97994884That literally never happened dude. >>97994887There were some rumourmongers spreading around bullshit at the time.
>>97994848Lmao
Anything about allies in 11th?
>>97994884Is this some falseflag type shit?
>>97994917no, so probably exactly the same as 10th
>>97994892>a few returning>a fewWhat the fuck are they doingI thought they'd just add points to the existing ones
I bet 10th is seen as a success internally, because of some ridiculous metric like>most competitive games played ever
>>97994924My guess is "new" means reworked to work with the 11th ruleset, "returning" means it's new enough that it can be used as is
>>97994927I imagine it's seen as a success because revenue go up
>>97994927more like>most models sold everwhich is both true and also the only thing that matters
>>97994912Rumor mongers are probably what it was. Oh well, I misremembered
>>97994848>>97994212meh, this isn't his account. It's someone larping as fecalfaggot, just to take screencaps and post here
>>97994931that should be considered good enough, not great. better rules would have sold even more models
>>97994938proof that it isn’t him? someone brought another post he made at some point and he didn’t deny it was his.
>>97994786in hindsight this would make sense considering how incredibly low-effort crucible was. felt like they published a rough draft they found laying around in a cabinet
>>97993826Gonna get around to finally painting this guy
>>97994927If that's what success looks like I don't want it. It must be miserable, because the more the numbers go up the more the idea that they're gonna go down gets real, and you still have the obligations to the shareholders, and you get bigger yet you also cut corners to cut cost and what not. And you got people rightfully complaining because you do scummy shit like limited editions and the likes.I'm glad I'm just a bloke.
>>97994948that reddit account only posts when someone makes a screencap to post here for (you)s
>>97993912I've got like 5 books at home, over 300 pages each, on just the battle of Okinawa. You could write literally 5 full books about Imperium vs Orks on one Hive City during just the second armageddon war. Inability to make this interesting is the fault of the writers.
>>97994886Depth in game design is generally considered the ability for people playing a game to make multiple meaningful choices that lead to new gameplay situations without existing a clear and immediate "best choice". While it's true that is not the opposite of simplicity, it relies a lot on possibilities, and often when someone tries to simplify things he ends up removing meaningful elements thus also removing depth.It's like, would removing instants simplify MtG? Yes. Would it also destroy its depth? Also yes.
>>97994958pacific war was boring as fuckNow the first battle of the marne? that's cinema
>>97994956it was screencrapped 2 days after the post was made, and a dude could easily just be stalking his reddit and screencaps it as he sees it.
>>97994927You don't need to bring up ridiculous metrics, there is a single metric GW cares about and it's revenue. Everything else, competitive games, fluff, engagement , everything, it's secondary to that single metric.
>>97994938>>97994956It's the exact same autistic typing style and some time ago he admitted he made a new account, it's entirely possible it's actually him.
>>97994940>better rules would have sold even more modelsWould they?
>>97994962>pacific war was boring as fuckGotta disagree with you homie, I like the heavy naval involvement.The european front was great too, though.
>>97994975I don't see why not. Better rules draw more people from related audiences which results in more purchases.10th had only the most beaten of housewives engage with the game.
>>97994940not necessarily. 10th edition is bad, but its the matrix type bad where its shitty enough to make you hate it, but not shitty enough for you to try to escape it, so most people who were already buying models will keep buying models, and any beginners won’t care if the rules are good or bad because they want to focus buying models and playing any game first and foremost.
Lol
>>97994927I've said this before but the issue with 10th is that it's bad, but not shit enough to quit 40k as a whole.
>>97995004>took them aboard their shipoh they got turned into servitors
>>97994970Anyone can post that here and claim that, you fucking idiot
>>97995015he did it with timestamps, nice try
>>97994990>purchases.10th had only the most beaten of housewives engage with the game.10th edition is the most popular edition by far anon, and most of the players are people that never played before. The 40k club in my zone currently has more than 100 players, and last time we did a survey the amount of people that started in 10th is the same as the people that started in every other edition put together.
>>97994975They always do. If only because a unit suddenly becoming good gets the community talking about it, which makes people that didn't have it want to try it.
>>97995015calm down mutant, everyone here hated you even before you pulled that shit
>>97994969>it's secondary to that single metricyou are right, but it's also contributive to it. So the question is how much could a better game push revenue? How about the single best wargame on the market?
>>97995018>and most of the players are people that never played beforeThis is the main problem. They know nothing about how older rules were, they only know that GW tells them they were worse and too complicated so they believe it even if it's a complete lie.
>>97995019We are not talking about good rules in that sense. We are talking about the game as a while being better, not one unit being OP to sell more models. That would be in my opinion the opposite of good rules.
>>97994970>>97994966hmm, maybe
>>97995027If 40k was the best wargame on the market it wouldn't need balancing patches every three months to have people rebuy their armies or new editions every three years to shake up everything and have people buy stuff.
>>97995028There's been plenty of flirting with the older rulesets in recent WC articles
>>97995018>10th edition is the most popular edition by far anon, and most of the players are people that never played before.Warhammer is the most visible and sanitized it ever has been. Nerd culture is not stigmatized the way it was in the 90s and oughts. GW also pushed for mass-market appeal through licensing and this is the result. It has nothing to do with the quality of 10th edition.
>>97995036>it wouldn't need balancing patches every three months to have people rebuy their armies or new editions every three years to shake up everything and have people buy stuff.How likely would an AI generated Wargame be better than current edition of 40k? Anybody here tried to AI generate a 40k edition just for the laughs?
>>97995030Ah, then also yes. A generally positive attitude to the community makes more people wanna try the game. If you see every old player complaining about the same problems for years lots of potential new players will just think the game is a mess and won't bother. Stability is also key. 3rd to 5th are three very similar editions that lasted a total of 14 years. It's no wonder it's considered the golden age of 40k. Similarly, in other circles you have DnD 5ed being the default tabletop game globally and that edition has lasted 12 years and counting. The general public usually likes a game that stays relatively similar for long periods of time.
>>97995036I believe a well-made product would outsell the churn, but I guess GW internal numbers say otherwise.
>>97995004
>>97995043And it ammounts to what? 11th being marginally better because they can't make books incompatible so the vast majority of issues with 10th still exist and even then 11th has issues of its own like removing Crusade for no fucking reason.
>>97995045>It has nothing to do with the quality of 10th edition.Yeah that was the point
>>97995049consumer accessible AI can't operate on that level, it just rearranges words that sound nice.
>>97995053What I don't get is why make it shit on purpose? If rules quality is largely inconsequential for sales, why not make it good anyways? It's not like the current rules flaws are hard to find and fix adn there's no real benefit of making them bad.
>>97995053well made products are better than churn when you're niche, but when you're big enough to get the nigger cattle audience advertisement and hype mog quality bigly
>>97995051But that means if something sucks, people get disappointed. Would pic be a more reasonable response?
>>97995058I'm just saying that even GW's admitting that there were some good things with the older editions, and I think this will come in play in 3 or 4 editions or so
>>97995004Fukin nice>the stiltmanvery fuckin nice
>>97995063They don't make it shit on purpose. They simply pay their designers a pittance so no actual good designer want to do that and they are left with nepotism hires that are unable to understand their own game.
>>97995069Anon in 3 or 4 editions (9 to 12 years from now) none of the current rules writers will be in GW.
>>97995063it's not inconsequential, it's their main sales vehicle, secondary only to the overall appeal of their golden goose IP. So while Space Marines will always sell, a better game will draw even more customers.
>>97994892It’s a couple 11th edition detachments that are compatible with their mix and match system for people to play with until your codex comes out. That’s not the total number of detachments for the whole edition.
>>97995063don’t mistake malice for incompetence. the reason the rules are shit is because they’re too cheap to have a supervisor who ensures all the rules writers are cooperating with each other, low paid QA people to look up defects or errors, and most importantly playtesters who see if the gameplay feels good.
>>97995078You are overestimating the amount of people willing to build and paint miniatures in order to play a game. Those willingly to do that for a good game but not for a bad game are not that many.
>>97995078I know, I'm saying that even if we assume rules quality doesn't matter, there's still no reason not to try and make them good.>>97995076>>97995083It's pure malice. Thse are straight lies coming from their lips and they know it. No one with more than a single braincell can read this and not see it's simply wrong.
>>97995088Which % of model painters actually play?
>>97995094a tiny fraction
>>97995062Something like 80% of code is being made with claude code now, this was true a year ago, now, you only need to know how to use it.
>>97995088>>97995094I think the main target is kids who don't even assemble the kits to be desu.
>>97993774>SMHoping there's more small vehicles, especially since there's White Scars transfers in the starter box, seconding >>97993832 that bikes are highly likely since the ATV is done for.>>97994230>terminators to replace all GravisI love termies, which is why if I see a termie inceptor squad I will flip a table. That's not what they're for.
>>97995077Yeah, but the DoW-babbies who's in charge by then will bring back lots of stuff from 4th, guaranteed. People already talk about 4th as the golden age of 40k. This sentiment is only gonna grow. Once we've reached peak shrimplification, the pendulum's gonna swing back
>>97995093That's just marketing speech for "we are cutting points because balancing those mean an amount of work hours we are not willing to pay". Did you expect them to actually say the truth when writing advertising?
>>97995077you will be foraging for food and gas in abandoned cities in 9 to 12 years.
>>97995107Maybe in England and maybe some times ago. Now the main target is whales with piles of shame that would kill a small child if toppled.
>>97995113The writers in charge in 12 years will have started in 10th so you can forget about them bringing anything from 4th back.>>97995117I expected them to not fuck up the system. Even the worst balanced point costs in the past were better balanced than not having point costs at all. The overprice is instantly set to max in 10th. Literally anything else would have been better.
>>97995106Code is words, so essentially nothing changed. Also, it's largely spaghetti code without structure or redundancies. Try designing a game around those parameters and see how it goes.
>>97995054>advice animals meme postedOh man that made me sad and feeling old. I'm not even 30 yet.Here's an advice guardsman I remember.
>>97995078this, its insane how little people here know of the business of the games industry. 40k is a lifestyle product, like apple. It is a huge econsystem that they want you to spend in, that creates its own demand.Lets say someone buys their first "learn to paint space marines" box that comes with a few paints and models as a taste. That person has 2 directions they can go in:Buy a kit or two more just for the joy of modeling (this is at most a 200USD lifetime customer)orGet into the wargame and join a community. The community plays mostly 1000-2000 point games. To play at this level has a price tag somewhere between 500-2000 USD. This is a much higher lifetime spend per customer and GWs entire model is about converting people from secondary media --> first paint kit --> living within the ecosystem looking at every reveal and buying boxes for multiple armies. The ones who actually play the game are the whales, everything is designed to convert people to the highest lifetime spend customer.The game actually being good DOES in fact result in more money for GW, they are just not very good at writing rules because designing a wargame by committee is kind of fucking retarded.Niche factions, bespoke brand paints, recognizable memes/tropes, a high PV for matched play games... these are ALL important in driving revenue.
>>97995113>People already talk about 4th as the golden age of 40kHow long until 8th edition is considered a golden age edition?Or has it already begun?
>>97995130In order for them to not fuck up the system you would need them to be smart enough to know how to not fuck up the system. Less numbers = less time spent writing number. That's all there is.
>>97995131Anon you have to be capable of extrapolation, last year asking AI to write code resulted in a lot of code looking sentences that didn't do anything, today it results in somewhat buggy code, what will happen tomorrow?
>>97995142There's people glazing it already but that's just because a lot of people started with 8th and 10th is even worse.
>>97995148>what will happen tomorrow?Those 4 big AI companies will realize transferring billions of imaginary money between each other can't support an actual economy and they'll file for bankrupcy.
>>97995148>what will happen tomorrow?AI getting better and likely also a lot more expensive to the point where one will have to question large-scale application. I'm not saying it's never going to be good enough to design a competent game, it just currently isn't because it doesn't operate on the necessary level of granularity yet. I mean, feel free to try, I'm happy to eat crow on this.
>>97995139>Get into the wargame and join a community. The community plays mostly 1000-2000 point games. To play at this level has a price tag somewhere between 500-2000 USD.>The game actually being good DOES in fact result in more money for GW,The game being good doesn't have that much impact on the community as we can see in 10th edition. The problem is that they don't need the game to be good to have communities to attract people, they only need the game to not be bad enough to actively drive people away, which is what happened in 7th edition and had them instantly act.
>>97995152don't give me hope
>>979951428th was better than 10th and 7th. It's probably better than 11th as well, as it had wargear options and points. The only fucked up thing with 8th was the power creep and force orgs
>>97995142Ultimately whatever edition someone was first at peak whaledom for will be considered the golden age. The editions that spanned their rapid creations of their first and second armies, likely when they voraciously played the most.People who got started with 10th will fondly look back on aurahammer as peak, telling people that they don’t understand, “every character had 3 or 4 abilities! wargamers are too stupid for it now, and Jews Workshop just wants to cater to them!”
>>97995148Ask the current version of your favorite LLM if jews control their bladders and you'll see why the hyped product is just a fancy random text generator.
>>97995148>what will happen tomorrowHopefully the complete collapse of modern society.
>>97995132>+++Advice for the day:+++
>>97995165>The game being good doesn't have that much impact on the community as we can see in 10th edition.I know this is anecdotal but most of my games in 10th include me and my opponent scratching our heads about some part of the ruleset being retarded and how it used to be better. I'm pretty sure any new players that want to join in will be put off by hearing that every single game. This wouldn't happen if 10th didn't suck.
>>97995139Playing the game is a tiny fraction of what people do with the minis and GW treats it as such.
>>97995142It was, economically for GW.Primaris, contrast paints, narrative progression, you're living in 8th edition's world.
>>97995132>I'm not even 30 yet.And yet you have the hairline of a 50 year old
>>97995171And stratagems. And the awful AP system we still have. And the lack of AVs and morale taking away a huge chunk of the decision making from the gameplay. 7th had shit balance but it's still a better edition ruleswise.
>>9799516510th is actually a fairly good game if you leave the fakegrog /tg/ echo chamber.>>97995188Whales are what make money, your hallucination otherwise doesn't make that invalid. It's people who play (or dream about playing) that end up with the insane piles of shame they dont even assemble.
>>97995194Sorry but when you said whales with piles of shame the first time I didn't realize you meant that their majority are playing the game?
I want to do a skeleton daemon army. I am going back and forth from slaanesh units or tzeentch units.One hand the slaanesh stuff I get a few tomb army box sets and I can make the majority of what I want with talons cut from sprue. Seekers being the horse riders, and a centaur creature made from others for the fiends. I would have draping dresses over the skeletons made from sprue glue and solidified paper towels caked with paint and then re-sealed once bent into shape.Other hand I get the skeletons to be all the horrors, two skeletons standing on 32mm bases for pinks. Blues get a single standing skeleton, while the upper torso of a skeleton would be the brimstone horrors. Flying horses for disks and everything encased in whipping double-tape "flames" painted and sealed. So a burning skeleton army that "reassembles" due to the chaos rules.I have a theme for the other two deities all planned out but I only want one to be a skeleton force. It makes sense to make slaanesh a skeleton army because they don't bleed when facing Khorne rivals. On the other hand, the tzeentch skeletons covered in flames of change feels like a part of the sand-mummies that make up the thousand sons.Tzeentch would be sprayed with apropriate color changing paints while the slaanesh skeletons would be "gold dipped bones" using the gold to green color shifting paint.On the other hand, I could use the Shadow Legion rules and fill the rest with 'lesser skeletons' painted differently and using the cultist rules for a real horde army.>the choice changes what I purchase in terms of box sets
>>97995194>10th is actually a fairly good game if you leave the fakegrog /tg/ echo chamber.Sounds like you are in the 10th edition echo chamber. You haven't played an edition of 40k that doesn't feature Primaris. You should sit down and shut the fuck up when your betters are trying to teach you something.
>>97995036They'll never release a 'Definitive' or 'perfect' edition of any of their games, for the same reason Big Pharma will never release a cure for cancer. Forget the games, the only thing James fixes is the price.
>>97995192>7th had shit balance but it's still a better edition ruleswise.7th was completely shit because of different things but it was still a hot steaming pile of shit. The only things that weren't straight up terrible in 7th were things that 7th copied from earlier editions. And it still managed to make them terrible because of everything else about the edition.
>>97995192Yeah, but it didn't have the stratagem bloat of 9th. It was an OK edition.
>>97995194>10th is actually a fairly good game if you leave the fakegrog /tg/ echo chamber.It's a good game only if your frame of reference is small.
>>97995222Any number bigger than 0 is too many stratagems.
>>97995132>>97995182I admire old memes, or should I say "Image Macros". Simple, to the point, clear and very much effective. In some time we'll see a renaissance for this format, which will then be ruined forever, until it is brought back again by a minority who will use it properly.
>>97995206The majority of people who have spent $2000 USD+ play the game. Modelers tend to spend much more modestly, and are not "lifestyle" customers. Who do you think is buying shit like Necromunda terrain kits? Any regular diorama builder can buy 3rd party train scale shit with no problem. No, it's the whales who actually play Necromunda and want big nice GW plastic boards that spend all the money. 90 dollar resin kits with 4 models aren't something someone who just "buys to paint" actually get.>>97995212Case in point, fakegrog rage is the default on the echo chamber here. If you leave this space people become a lot more reasonable about the differences between the editions. Your average normie 40k wargammer appreciates 10th being fairly balanced and having good models, but laments the death of flavor in the game. This is not a fakegrog opinion, most actual 40k players feel this way and you can still like 10th and also point out its flaws.
>>97995227Dis nigga gets it.
10th be like >Yeah, you measure LOS from the model's weapon or banner or a spike or something and then you draw the distance from the base of the models or something nobody knows anymore
>>97995238>The majority of people who have spent $2000 USD+ play the game. Modelers tend to spend much more modestly, and are not "lifestyle" customers.And you know this for a fact? How?
>>97995209I want to do a custom guard regiment made out of entirely van saar gangers. Follow your dreams.
>StratagemsTell me again why this should be anything other than>Relic/special wargear>special rule>Paid Point Assets (like off-table artillery)>specific to mission/scenario/campaign
>>97995251Check fifth from the left
>>97995255If they redid this today half would be black women
>>97995252GW wants 40k to be magic so you need to be counting mana for instant spells.
Does anybody know if GW cycles through the MTO stuff?I just saw they already did Steel Legion three years ago,but i missed out on that.
>>97995224False, you can play 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th and still enjoy 10th. It's still basically the same fucking game if you aren't a giant baby turbo sped autismo who obsesses over what the chud anime forum considers most important. You want to push this narrative so you can be a fucking hipster about old editions you dont actually play because news flash NO ONE fucking plays them anymore. If you do, you play one or two games max. Most of the real grogs who prefer old editions dont actually play and just look at their minis and remember the old days OR just play 10th anyway because again: its the same fucking core game.
>>97995260It's unreliable
>>97995238>The majority of people who have spent $2000 USD+ play the game.What a load of horseshit
I haven't forgotten. WHERE IS YOUR BATTLEFORCE, HASHUTFAG??? WHERE IS IT???????
>>97995246Because GW is printing more money than it ever has before, 90% of that comes from model sales and they push the mtg style competitive shit like their life depends on it. Which it does, because they are bajillion dollar corporation who only do what makes money. Additionally, if you leave the echo chamber of /tg/ who ironically plays EXTREMELY few games of 40k you will see how much people actually do buy minis for the purpose of playing the game. https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2025/04/warhammer-40k-orks-more-dakka-nerf-is-a-lesson-to-us-all.html
>>97995265>its the same game if you don't think too hard about how much has gone to shitstupid zoomer fuck
>Every single faction is functionally immune to Chaos taint and Genestealer shenanigans except for the ImperiumWhy? It just means only humans suck.
>>97995265>It's still basically the same fucking game if you aren't a giant baby turbo sped autismo who obsesses over what the chud anime forum considers most important.Anon. No. The core mechanics are different enough you're playing completely different things. In 10th you worry about progressive objectives, random deck secondaries, trading, fire lanes and stratagems. In 4th you're worrying about AVs, morale, kill points, positioning for templates, guess range weapons and capping the objective or table quarters by the final turn (which could be turn 5 or fucking 10). Something like giving an anti horde unit lethal hits or dev wounds so they kill a tank with fucking rifles would be unthinkable back then.
>>97995280you move modelsyou shoot modelsyou roll a pile of D6Its the same shit. Your autism makes you focus on individual leaves so closely you can't see the forest.
>>97995275You don't know how many games anyone here is playing.
>>97995258NOW CAN I GET AN AMEN BROTHER? AAAAAAMEN
>>97995286By that logic Bolt Action and 40k are the same game. You're a retard not worth talking to.
>>97995275This isn't proof that "the majority of whales plays the game"
>>97995277Humans are the focus of the game, yah dingleberry. And that means they don't have to waste time with chaos eldar or chaos necrons that no one is going to buy.
>>97995287No one here is playing games, that's why people consistently don't even know the basic rules of 10th when they criticize it. Additionally, people consistently say things like "i refuse to play 10th trash". They don't play it, I don't have proof but I would say 80% of posters ITT don't actually play the game and are just modelers. That's why actual rules discussion barely happens.
What were they thinking? This box doesn't even come with an Iron Hand upgrade sprue. Servo Turret is getting legended in 11th, isn't it?
>>97995251problem is the two choicesTzeentchorSlaanesh>idk about how well one is doing over the other atmSplitting burning skeletons or slashy bone ladies in dresses.
>>97995275>because they are bajillion dollar corporation who only do what makes moneyIf they wanted money they would let me use 30k AdMech units in 40k. But they don't. Because they are retards.
>>97995277Tau can be genestealer'd, we just don't see this on the tabletop because genestealers as an army are already a niche, and so (Relatively, I'm not saying they are particularly rare) are tau. So you'd basically be looking at a very thin slice of crossover.As for the chaos shit, well its all pretty well explained. Orkz want for little, Tau don't have psykers and have relatively 'dim' souls. "chaos nids" wouldn't even make sense. Necrons have no souls or genes to steal.Wouldn't be too crazy though to see a chaos-votann as a one off mini eventually though.
>>97995302They've brought back Mutilators and Land speeders from legends. Just in the past 2 months.
>>97995302>Servo Turret is getting legended in 11th, isn't it?We can only hope. I fear not much is actually going to end up going to Legends at all this edition
when i realized i was going to miss the april deadline, i slowed down on my character (now still WIP). but the space wolves were basically done.
>>97995255Don't think they were used as anything other than militia to defend Armageddon. Then again, Armageddon is in right now, so I guess one could get some of those half-tracks and armoured cars, and run a PDF army using IG rules.
>>97995267I suppose that makes sense. They'll probably only revisit big sellers.Just annoyed I missed it. Thanks.
>>97995265Nice melty, but none of that even made a lick of sense. Of course people always default to the current edition, because that's what is supported by miniature releases, events and updates. 10th is the same game as 4th the same way rugby is the same as football. You can define "core game" as loosely (or tightly) as you want, so it doesn't really mean anything. Yes, you're still push plastic soldiers around, but that's not the level of discussion people are having around this.
>>97995302>have pile of unpopular shit models>try to bundle them in a box as an incentivelol, first time?
>>97995300None of that is evidence that 'no one plays'.I can post a hundred videos of top level 40k players forgetting rules or getting them wrong in the middle of the game.I can tell you are one of those mad little faggots that gets incensed when people start shitting on L ruin terrain and screeching that they don't play. Everything you say is pulled straight out of your dirty brown ass
>>97995313I want thunderfire cannons/rapiers back in 40k.
>>97995286>you move models>you shoot models>you roll a pile of D6Lmao he actually wrote it
>>97995277Almost everything but necrons and daemons have been genestolen in lore
>>97995321>Of course people always default to the current edition,Because people who like 40k care more about playing 40k than edition autism. The proof is in the pudding. It's the same game because the people who prefer 4th edition are actually playing 10th because if they have to decide between no games of 4th and games of 10th they will go where the community goes because they just want to play warhammer because its the same fucking game just a worse ruleset.
>>97995302Now this is probably copium but I'm kind of hoping that the new Dominatus campaign decks might actually give fortifications a purpose through like defense missions or something. I know it will never ever happen but it would be neat.
>>97995334> just a worse ruleset.and that's exactly what everybody is saying
>>97995302>>97995322You niglets don't have to buy the box.
>anons shitting on 10th again>me a newfag who is just learning the gameWas it a mistake to buy this combat patrol?
>>97995317There was an idea that the space wolves getting shit on should be made into sort of a thread collage where anyone could submit a new entry. Sort of like Johnny in /wip/. I think that's a good idea honestly.
>>97995350it's not like you have a choice kek
>>97994475Oh wow, thank you! Glad you appreciate him :)
>>97995350We're getting a new edition in a month, simmer the fuck down newfag
>>97995350Comes with the territory, 4chan shits on everything and especially anything new and/or popular. Just try the game for yourself and come up with your own conclusions.
>>97995350>Was it a mistake to buy this combat patrol?no, your miniatures are for eternity, people are shitting on the soon to be replaced ruleset
>>97995350there's no better moment to learn the game than with the edition reset, so everyone is right there with you and you're flooded with tutorials.
>>97995356Sometimes 4chan is right.
>>97995350Don't listen to 4chan about the quality of anything, you will rarely get a straight answer and you will never get the right answer.That being said, the best reason to play is because you want to throw down your sexy ass models. Painting for quality and engaging deeply in the hobby aspect is much more fulfilling than tabling Timmy with your sweaty spam list full of models you don't even fucking like.
>>97995365not this time, /v/ermin
>>97995317I was wondering where that kneeling guy was. I was really looking forward to seeing it finished. Anyway, I usually don't do this but I can make an exception this one time and add you to the collage once you're done, if you want.
>>97995350HOW ABOUT you play a game and find out
>>97995148>what will happen tomorrowdunno about AI, but there will be Conan Exiles update
>>97995368Stick your L shaped ruins up your ass, fat bald cunt
>>97995318They don't have to be Van Saar, just to use the models. They could be a regiment from planet San Vaar or something.
>>97995366Le chon is unironically the only place on the internet where you're allowed to have negative opinions about stuff
>>97995351if you make them a punching bag constantly, the meme will become selffulilling>>97995369no, that's okay dawg. but let me clean up his shoulder pad and get a better angle for everyone on the kneel. brb
>>97995379>using models as something else
>>97995366I would play this game>>97995374I have played some with loaner models and on TTS. My LGS is pretty cool. I also played a game of kill team.
>>97994613Magnetization is not hard, it just takes time. Easiest solution is place a bit of paint on the soles where you want magnets and then place on the model, it’ll leave a mark that aligns them. Then drill and glue magnets in place. Hardest part is having consistent magnet directions so you don’t run into issues
>>97995380You can tell some of the freaks here that want to make this just another hug box for nuGW, 10th and phobo marines
>>97995380Yea, and that's why you'll never get a good answer because this place is where all the negativity congregates.I'm not saying you have to be fake nice or force positivity like fucking reddit, but it skews a person's perception of something to basically only hear negative opinions about it.Though it doesn't help that the rest of the internet is mostly marketing bots and drooling 80 IQ fanboys that treat IPs like a religion, but you can't treat 4chan as a perfect, accurate repsentation of a community.
>>97995349As an Iron Hands fan (I play Sons of Medusa) I feel compelled to buy any IH branded products GW makes for 40k just to signal that we fans actually exist and are interested in more IH stuff. But then they put out stuff like this and I feel like I would be an idiot to actually buy it.
>>97995407It's not perfectly accurate, but it's the best we got.
>>97995324Sorry, that's HH only now
>>97995379I've always wanted to build a Vanquisher with a comedically long gun.
>>97995406>phobo marineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGpFd6FlT3kI liek themMarines needed recon units. It was a glaring hole in their roster.
>>97995414Luckily you got some nice character sculpts in recent years. Both Feirros and Varr are great. I'm currently eyeing the kill team servitors for flavour.
>>97995422Don't they still use scouts?
>>97995422I also like some of the phobos units, but the marine recon unit was scouts
>>97995406Phobos and 10th aren't the reason why the only person you can find to play against is your 34-50 year old brother
>>97995414>>97995302>We put iron hands on the box and forgot to include an iron hands upgrade sprue. And they still bought it!
>>97995422>reconsomething that scouts ahead?
>>97994293Rumors say they're one of the first 5 Codexes alongside Custodes and AdMech. Also pic related
Another Wolf Scout done, pre- decals.
>>97995430Here's one of the freaks that takes it personally when you make fun of Phobos marines now!
>>97995422
Help me decide my second armyWhich factionA.) Is not going to be refreshed or mass-Legends'd any time soonB.) Has the most poseable infantry units, at least on the level of the soon-to-be-squatted Tactical Squad
>>97995377>10e is bad>why?>uhhhh, the terrain!>you can use your own layouts>uhmmmm, uhhhhh
>>97995441why are they on necromunda bases?
>>97995444Genestealer Cults.
>>97995428>>97995429>>97995434>>97995443scouts don't countthey don't have power armor and are just newbies. It's like using PDF for guard, lol.It was dumb that proper Marine couldn't go back to using weapons he was trained in using (like sniper), save for discarding power armor and going sergeant.When we know that there are lighter versions of power armor for generic humans.
>>97995422I liked crysis. It was never very good but it was kind of charmingly bad. The first game was very cool for me because I had ZERO idea there were aliens in it until the shoe drops and the mountain explodes. I just thought it was a cool super soldier korean killing simulator.
>>97995444Tau. The fire warrior/breacher kit is the best kit GW's ever done
>>97995422They never needed a special suit of armour for that.>scoutsThey wear carapace because they don't have the black carapace.>wolf scoutsThey're retarded.
>>97995444obviously ultramarines then (no primaris and bonus points for 2nd edition paintjobs)
>>97995450Going for an industrial/Dead Space/Space Hulk/Resident Evil factory/horror basing. I want my Space Wolves to be having the absolute shittiest times of their lives instead of frolicking around in the snow like they usually do.
>>97995444>Has the most poseable infantry unitszero at this point in time, they all have fixed joints and require at least some conversion work if you want to alter their poses
>>97995277humans get attacked the most not because they suck more but specifically because they are the dominant power, so everyone targets them the most.and because gw can't be bothered with making a spiky version of everything, chaos doesn't sell THAT much
>>97995004I like the idea the techpriests actually were impressed and not even mad. And took them to the ship since they saw potential in them
>>97995450>>97995467Don't lie many recasters give you these by default
>>97995474retard
>>97995132>>97995182what I like about those is that the joke can still be appreciated and understood by those who aren't into 40k. For the most part.>>97995191Not yet, but I will get there. And I'll just go bald at that point.
>>97995463that's a light version of power armor tho and they are a late addition to the lore
>>97995456>It's like using PDF for guard, lol.But that's what Guard is.
>>97995474No? That's legitimately what I wanted to do. I like the contrast of the usually (for Space Marines) happy-go-lucky Wolves being in a nasty grimy situation.
>>97995422Have you considered having holes in your roster is a good thing for the game over all, as it creates asymmetric gameplay and everyone having everything means no one has anything because everyone is the same.
>>97995286This post has the same energy as>"It's a fucking dice game, there's no skill involved"
>>97995369photography is still new to me
>>97995489>being in a nasty grimy situation.To be fair modern GW doesn't do a great job with the setting anymore, but still...
>>97995487that's from where they are recruited, like marines from scoutsdoesn't mean they need to be playable, they can be background fluff explaining recruitment process, while actual soldiers are minis>>97995490it really makes sense for Marines to have such units given their playstyle
>>97995456>they don't have power armorso they're better at recon>and are just newbies.except when they're wolfscouts or any chapters that do the same, or any veteran sgt that stays in the Xth company to lead the way.>lighter power armorI think it's only lighter because it doesn't have to fit a super human
>>97995491>anon posts correct thing>this has the same energy as "incorrect thing"sasuga fakegrog
>>97995490a good game would have meaningfully distinguished unit roles and capabilities, but in 40k it doesn't really make a difference anyway
>>97995491says something that the most ardent 10th supporter here is a literal retard
>>97995507You're trying too hard to fit in.
>>97995502you gonna throw another meltdown and talk about how you've read everything again?
>>97995489Alright, didn't mean anything by it, good luck m8, nice models!
What army is the hardest to assemble and paint, and why is it Admech?
>>97995514I'm clearly not considering 10 fakegrogs are crashing out ITT over my correct tatkes
>Votann have planet eating shipsHave any of those ships been utilized by CSM warbands or Imperium SM chapters or as a "mobile planet" teeming with human life?Or looted by orks in 40k canon?
>>97995505Marines are power armor factionFunny you use Cyrus as a proof, because it's explicitly because of him I came to conclusion that Phobos were needed. His playstyle makes just too much sense for Marines.Not having light power armor for marines which are designed to use power armor and then do not have normal means to use tactics and weapons once they grow, despite being taught them was nonsensical lore and had to be fixed
>>97995504>doesn't mean they need to be playable, they can be background fluff explaining recruitment process, while actual soldiers are minisscouts spend ~20ish years fighting behind enemy lines before they make full marine. By any standard they are actual soldiers - with vastly more experience than anything else you find on the table from other armies save for eldar.
>>97995521your takes have been ridiculed, pipe down
>>97995502I'm also envisioning these Wolves as in the timeline where the Imperium lost and these are basically the last bunch of stragglers from different companies banded together.
>>97995515dunno why you are mad, but you weren't talking to me before. Just saying the whole setting is rather ...dark and grim. Eh?
>>97995521>tatkesoh no no no this fat fingered fuck is trembling as he posts!
>>97995531being ridiculed by the mentally incompetent is a compliment to me
>>97995441But those guys look clean, don't fuck them up with decals.
>>97995537nta I love posting this gif in every thread on every board in 4chan
>>97995504>that's from where they are recruited, like marines from scoutsMarines aren't "recruited" from scouts. Scouts are marines in training.>>97995481>that's a light version of power armor tho and they are a late addition to the lorePhobos or MkIV recon marines?
>>97995545Based. Don't stop doing it!
>>97995545
>>97995473Considering a bunch of Dark Age peseants not only finding but also not awoking the Necron Is already impressive. Might as well turn them into Skittari Or fuck Even adepts Or most likely Servitors.
>>97995502I remember a few posts back that allegedly Rogue Trader's Imperium is more monstrous than current Imperium.I asked for specifics but only got Rogue Trader pics of the admech which admittedly looked more monstrous than current Admech.Maybe the change was so there would be an easier time for identifying Admech and DarkMech from each other.But I didn't get any examples and citations of the Rogue Trader Imperium being more monstrous than the current 40k Imperium.I do think the Rogue Trader introduction is a perfect encapsulation of the Imperium and the 40k universe.
>>97995500>LIMITED Beautiful
>>97995550saved lmao
>>97995527I am not gonna waste my time arguing with a powertrip selfinsert fag. Blow it out your ass.
>>97995542You think freehand something onto the shoulder pads or just leave them as is?
>>97995317Was that piece inspired by that internet Image of a fat ninja executing a furry?
>>97995527They don't need "light" power armour to sneak, they can do it in normal power armour just fine. There's plenty of chapters and legions doing sneaky shit in power armour.
>>97995317Would've been perfect if he held a giant cock instead of a sword.
>>97995553I think a lot of the modern writers create a pastiche of what they've read of the setting. They guys writing it originally were inspired by stuff outside of the setting and giving it a satirical edge. Lots of archeologists/history buffs in the studio as well. So a lot of stuff is reminiscent of historical wars instead of being a reference to some other popculture thing. Dunno if you can state definitely what is more monstrous as it often boils down to the individual writer, but I do think the newer stuff reads like the "cliff notes" version that draws more on videogame and anime tropes than anything else, because that is what the nerds that apply for jobs at GW grew up on.
>>97995553>was so there would be an easier time for identifyiold art had more of a body horror theme, that's it pretty much. It waas more like the world of judge dredd mixed with dune which is probably less horrible than the galaxy wide ultraviolence of modern 40k.the old art just kind of went harder and was more gross. I liked it.
>>97995553If I remember correctly. Marines were closer to terran Marines from Starcraft. Othen Convicts thrown into power armours and into a shitty galaxy. Bassicaly Marines Malevolent were the default. But I wouldn't call Rouge Trader particularly darken then 3rd ed. Where a lot of dark stuff really got solidifed. Rouge Trader was just more unpolished and chaotic (remember Female Space Marines and a Planet Birmingham) Then later some stuff stayed some got expanded and some got retconed//deleted.
>>97995573that obvious?
>>97995553>Maybe the change was so there would be an easier time for identifying Admech and DarkMech from each other.As terrible as the imperium is, chaos isn't exactly hard to see as worse
>>97995004Why would they servitorize the people for just seeing a Necron?
>>97995604>If I remember correctly.>Marines were closer to terran Marines from Starcraft. Othen Convicts thrown into power armours and into a shitty galaxyrecruitment is framed a little different here. Other than that basically still the same. Marines Malevolent are more "If you are too weak to help yourself you deserve what you get" kind of. The Armageddon website had a writeup for them. Probably findable via the internet archive.
>>97995622its the joke
>>97995622Grimderp
>>97995609I only remember it because It is still my spray in TF2. And finding it on the web these days is Really hard.
>>97995622Ignorant people are easier to control, you don't want people asking questions and poking at things
>>97995317>>97995609>>97995634
>>97995625Ok then I rememberd it wrong. I just rememberd how SM's were more asshole policemen than knights in space.
>>97995641Yeah, that is probably an accurate description. They weren't quite the superhuman angel-analogs yet. They had military police and everything iirc.Already had the monasteries and whatnot though. RT was a fever dream.
The only way marines can be saved is if GW returns to separate torso and leg bits
>>97995622You are not prepared for knowledge
>>97995592>I think a lot of the modern writers create a pastiche of what they've read of the setting>but I do think the newer stuff reads like the "cliff notes" version that draws more on videogame and anime tropes than anything else, because that is what the nerds that apply for jobs at GW grew up on.I think we are part of the problem to why 40k is a bit more sanitized.Myself included.>>97995595>old art had more of a body horror themeI had that impression seeing the old mechanicus.It was like a horror take on the concept of transhuman evolution through cybernetic augments that erodes away humanity both inside and outside. I think the old art also has it's own appealing charm because the artists back then had more freedom and they just happened to put out the right pieces of art.Creative freedom can also go the wrong way, but in the case of older 40k art I think it worked in a positive way. So I guess it was a coin toss and landed on a positive side is what happened.Still the old art and new art will never capture the charm of photoshopped model pictures like pic related.I couldn't find the 40k leman russ photo edited box art.I have an unfounded theory that the box art got sterile not just from wanting to cut costs but also because some customers thought they were going to get the background soldier miniatures as well.
>>97995625Were marine recruits teens/kids back then? Doesn't seem like it
>>97995656KEK
>>97995634>>97995638if you give me a day, i'll can try to finish /myguy/ and pose them.i wanted to have an inverted visor (white w/ black reflections), but i'm struggling a little because i also paint while intoxicated
>>97995656I don't believe GW will do that as it is opportunity for aftermarket 3rd party to make compatible bits that require little hobby work at the desk.
>>97995656>separate torso and legspicrel is what they're capable now. We need to go further. Marines are perfect for this high level of modularity.
>>97995595>>97995661I always preffered Karl Kopinski's pieces. The Blanche pieces are Ezoteric, even dream like, and absolutely gave the foundations for 40K's feel. But Kopinski showed us more realistic style of art.Also aperentally he got battled cancer and then a Stroke. Poor Guyhttps://www.wargamer.com/warhammer-40k/karl-kopinski-stroke-fundraiser
>>97995680Niggas will see an image like this and then say that IG doesn't deserve to be an army
>>97995688I mean they don’t. They should be souped with space marines at best. Or the imperium at large, really.
>>97995680I agree. Blanche is great and definitely hits that 40k feeling which the fluff aspires towards but at the same time it also doesn't quite feel 40k in the sense that it almost seems like an entirely different world from what you actually get on the table top.
>>97995680Blanche for feels, Kopinski for reels.England to complete the trinity.
>>97995694I was gonna say that marines should just be a heavy support/fast attack unit for the Guard
>>97995694Marines should get combat serfs with hellguns
>>97995680>>97995696For me it's Jes Goodwin
>>97995672A shame GW hates small independent businesses more than they love their loyal playerbase
>>97995696Funny how both of these were made by England. I guess GW wanted more comicbook style at the time
>>97995711>>97995696>>97995680>>97995595man all this art is sick, they should make a tabletop game around it
>>97995694Retarded take if I ever read one
>>97995718Also one can easly guess where did Blizzard got their early designs for goblins.
>>97995720A tabletop game? They should have super customizable miniatures to make anything people can think about
>>97995680Imagine how fucking dope 40k would be if it was just regular future military dudes shooting regular future satanist military dudes in bombed out ruins
>>97995724Goblins/Grots really have a lot of weird charisma.
>>97993809This is ugly. Not as asexy as the other Tyranid beasts.Why is anyone hyped for it?
>>97995718
>>97995731>WW II soldiers vs evil soldiers fighting each other in a distopian futureSounds boring as fuck.
>>97995738He looks like Boomer from L4D
>>97995731Trench crusade but future?
>>97995687Do not the red terror, he's just a boy
>>97995751I never got the appeal of TC.
>>97995680>>97995696Forgetting someone?
>>97995379>planet San VaarKek
>>97995754Mostly cool art. Which is what created it really. Mike Franchina made some art pieces and people liked it and some Busses minded peps decided to cash in on the recent GW hate bandwagon and made TC. Problem is that they made lore and (map especially) kinda retarded.
>>97995500>LIMITED
>>97995758Gallagher was incredible.
>>97995481It's regular mk4 with a cloak.>>97995777What's the limited thing about? I'm missing some decalfag lore.
>>97995754I think it's like mordheim but without the medieval histroical fantasy and instead WW2 with demons/godsEverytime I want to get into it I realize it's missing some stuff that's only in space fantasy. As for WW1 I again think it's better with some space stuff, which explains why I like krieg but am not so intruiged by TC.In short: WW1ish mordheim
>>97995779that is Adrian Smith's
>>97995786Based Qsy poster
>>97995785He uses the whole Buffalo so to speak. Right down to the copyright and trademark print on the transfer sheets
>>97995797I know, I'm adding another name to the list.
>>97995785The mutant cut out the word "LIMITED" from a transfer sheet and stuck it on one of his rhinos. And one of his tanks has "HERESY TRANSFER" on the front.
>>97995680I almost make a 122nd army last year because of that piece of art
>>97995802If it wasn't for Qsy I wouldn't have looked at TC and would have only used Mike Franchina's artworks as inspiration for demon/faith stuff.They drew a fuckton of TC stuff and the items got me by the balls.
>>97995820Qsy's autism for historically and materially accurate items is really god tier.
>>97995824Amen, that's exactly the right mindset for games/settings like these. The pineups are quite appreciated too grinchsmile.gifI wonder what they're up to rn
>>97995850After 2 years of paid TC work they're looking at a new big project, I think still NDA. We also want to have a 500 point game of 40k at the LGS next week. I'm blessed enough to have the same mother and be on very good terms desu picrel is a little art of my warband from a few years ago
>>97995696there’s something so oddly simple and gentle about this. makes me feel like its set in warhammer fantasy and the iron warriors were just teleported to it.
>>97995815>>97995805That's hilarious.
>>97995687>>97995752since the 10th edition update tyranids have been expanding what their anatomy can do quite a bit in some places>2 thoracic sections, one for each pair of limbs, with a "waist" in-between >an extra joint between the talon and the vambrace>dewclaws on knees, elbows, top of the carapace, shoulders, and waist >up to 6 fingers>frilled head >tentacled skirt>fused horns or chimneys>flat paddle tail>flaring chitinous plates the extra joints in particular are interesting to me because I'm drawn to make a parallel between ancestral arthropods and later arthropods in how elongated and multi segmented bodies are ancient traits, while fused sections and compact bodies are later evolutionsraveners having many of these ancient traits AND also being used as vanguard organisms without an advanced infiltration method like genestealers, or a strong synaptic foothold like other tyranids pretty much establishes to me that the first tyranids were ravener-like
>>97995874You sound really retarded. I think you should put the gag back on.
>>97995870We'll watch their career with great interest>500 pointsbased>warbandI double checked but I have that pic saved in my AL folder, it's a very noice colorschemeI think we talked here before now that I think of it, Amusez vous bien la semaine prochaine!
>>97995894>gagyou mean bag, right?
>>97995895Thanks.>basedYeah it's T7 and under, no doubles, minimum number of models per unit, 1 character and 1 battleline. I've been winning all our recent games so I'm bringing something a bit jankier/memey this time. Just gonna fish for Lethals with Pactbound, with a Sorcerer that gives Dark Pact to my Rubrics, and a kitbash of the 4th edition raptors they got me for my birthday. >it's a very noice colorschemeBack when I first got into the game I was set on using green and silver before even finding out what the various schemes for chaos were and that it was the official/unused scheme for AL.
Has anyone worked out how big a sheet of MDF or whatever you need to make all the 11th terrain bases?
>gagballIn my mouth >diapies On, not changed >buttplug In my ass>caged Locked, alwaysYeah it's hellblaster painting time brothers
>>97995894SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UPYOUR THE RETARD
Do you think they'll do another run of the combat patrol magazine?
>>97995924>Cultist Mob>LegendsI cri everitimTzeentch for AL does make a lot of sense, AL Blinged Raptors is something I didn't know I needed.I like turquoise blue for HH AL, but 40k AL goes hard in dark blue with some light green. Not mine but picrel.
>>97995604>remember Female Space MarinesNever existed even in Rogue TraderLike everything you said in this post was wrong
>>97995894>should put the gag back on.No luck on fetlife, huh Decal?
>>97995952No. They'll have another magazine for this edition.
>>97995604>Marines were closer to terran Marines from Starcraft.It's like you guys have only heard about the RT rulebook and not about all the other books that expanded and established the lore. And even then you've only heard of it, not read it yourself.
>>97995962the important thing is that they still have a way of getting models for ~50% off
>>97995350You know how every video game has this cadre of people constantly complaining about how it used to be better before this patch or that update. It’s been like that for over a decade.Game’s still great though.
>>97995182This one always gave me a chuckle back then because of how much it's in the spirit of 40k's silliness.
>>97995974It won't be the same models though.
>>97995977well yeah, of course
>>97995968Even in the RT rulebook they werent like that, it's a meme. Theres a whole section on penal legions and convicts and it's for the imperial army, aka the imperial guard. The marines are multiple times described as monk-like faithful dedicated warriors.
>>97995975as an mtg player sometimes ARE genuinely just worse and shitty.
What're you guys working on?
DarkAdmech/Lost and the Damned is coming. I can feel it
>>97995975>shit's mediocre but it's good enough for me, I wish people would stop having standardsI'm glad people like you get exactly what they ask for and deserve
>>97995981
>>97995987Sorry, Legion of the Damned instead, more marines!
>>97995984
>>97995987This is some really sad cope.
>>97995987Which army's rules are more fitting for a chaos guard army? Imperial Guard or Genestealer Cults?
>>97993878Someone in the thread recommended Know No Fear.I'm still mad at them
>>97995987is crazy how easy eould be to make a traitor guard codex with the things we already have for such army.
>>97996038>This took me 7 months>Are they good>No.>NO.LMFAO.
>>97995987>spiky imperium boooring
>>97995987>>97996020NTA but I had the thought today, what army is GW going to do next for the 12th edition starter set? There are some basic rules to this:>every model in a launch set is new and redesigned>the non space marine side is always a very clearly evil bad guy faction, never something neutral like Tau or Craftworld Eldar or VotannThey've already done Death Guard, Necrons, Tyranids, and now Orks. None of these will get a repeat since their models are now too new to replace. Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Emperor's Children and vanilla CSM are probably out of the running as well because they already have new updated Troops already.So that leaves only Dark Eldar for existing factions. This is very possible, but the next launch is 3 years away if the current pattern holds, and I think it's more likely that DE get updated before then, which would also take them out of the running.At that point, GWs best option for a bad guy half to a new edition launch might be Dark Mech.
>>97995984Crab now that I’m done my intercessors. Picking up his base Thursday. Gotta do some basecoating till then.
>>97996026Storm of Chaos had the lost and the damned. Basically Guardsmen lead by Chaos Marine Champions with various flavors of mutants and hounds and spawns.You could call ogryn mutants or use the various genestealer generations for that depending on the flavor you want.I guess IG would be more renegade militia and GC ravening hordes of mutants flavored. Depends on your flavor of traitor.
>>97996078DeldarCSMNew faction
>>97996041Soon
>>97996078GW made molds for 20 different lieutenants. You can't logic your way through this.
>>97996093I just explained why it wont be CSM. It is most likely DEldar UNLESS they ge t updated during 11th with their next codex - if that happens we can pretty much count on a new faction being the bad guy half of 12th ed launch.
>>97996103Space Marines ignore the usual rules, we're talking about the other half. No evil army that has up to date Troops is getting in a starter set.
>>97996078Dark Eldar get first big wave this year even, or beginning of the next. Leaks say soDark Admech/Lost and the Damned is a new army for this Edition, leaks say soExodites get Kill Team and then Corsair style expansion year after, leaks say soFor 12th Edition they might finally go back to CSM. But Deldar getting 2nd wave as enemies of Marines in 12th makes sense tooBig thing would be dropping new army with Edition release. Like Slanni
>>97996118>For 12th Edition they might finally go back to CSM>monkey paw curls>Primaris CSM
>>97996118there's no leak for latd
>>97996110>can't be CSMAfter dark vengeance we got? Death guard. Hell they could redo death guard and have them as the bad guys again
>>97996078maybe not this edition, but soon, kill team first.
>>97996116My point is there is no rule. It's probably office politics.They kept selling the ork wartrakk (from gorka morka) for 22 years, then didn't replace it with anything and made three other vehicles nobody asked for.
>>97996140Death Guard updated the ancient plague marine sculpts and added poxwalkers. But now both of those units are too new to be worth replacing.Same with Rubrics/Tzaangors, Berzerkers/Jakhals, and Emps Children. And vanilla Legionaries/Cultists.MAYBE we get CSM if they split off another Legion into it's own book, like Iron Warriors. I know they just did an IW upgrade kit but who knows.
Deldars getting something is beyond me
>>97996147You aren't getting it at all. Not updating something doesnt break a rule. Updating something that was recently updated definitely does. It never ever ever ever happens (unless you are loyalist marines) for obvious sales reasons.You will not be getting newer Chaos Marines core troops in only 3 years, they are still completely serviceable modern kits.
>>97996154>too newWe're getting new intercessors
>>97996164A lot of stuff that happens in the world is beyond you, don't worry your smooth little head.
>>97996172So all of these articles about retarded gen Z kids being unable to read is true apparently, because I now stated multiple times regular space marines are the one exception to the rule because their solo always sells.
>>97996088what crab did you take the legs from
>>97996174Degenerate i really hope you get fused with the rest of eldars.
>>97994802none? because you don't play anyways and no one plays older editions
>>97996184Dunecrawler.
>>979948024th with 3.5 codexes.
>>97994802None, get away.
>>97996192Yo sally you should make a Dunecrawler on Saturine legs.
>>97996182They're not the exception. There is no rule, things get updated at different rates. The land raider and rhino are still sitting there after 2 or 3 decades.Cadians got an upgrade sprue less than a year before being fully redone.You haven't cracked the system, and in fact, if you end up being correct I can guarantee you it's not because you figured it out, but simply because that's what they decided to do 3 years ago.
>>97996041>traitor guard>cultists>mutants>mutant ogryns>task masters/enforcers>beastmen>plague zombies>demonsI remember what tar pits LaTD could be from 3rd edition.
Can anyone actually spell out why they prefer 3rd to 10th or are yall just larping?
>>97996169aos has had 3 skeleton kits in 5 years and has updated the wight king on skeleton after only 3 yearsand within one year it will update the chaos warriors it got 6 years ago with two kits, one for aos and one for towI'm not saying chaos marines will get definitely updated, I'm saying gw could definitely update them
>>97996206>t. larping as not baitfag
>>97996186You don't belong
>>97993535>>97993537Point is that you still have plenty of gruff men with scars and bionic eye bitz around if you want it, dumb nigs. Hell even if there isn't a bionic eye head in this kit you could take one of the many gruff men heads it'll inevitably include and make your own bionic eye to slap on it, not like it's hard hobbylets
>>97996201>The land raider and rhino are still sitting there after 2 or 3 decades.Holy shit it's like you just cannot read. Reading comprehension is beyond you.It DOES NOT MATTER if something HAS NOT been updated, it matters if it HAS been updated, and Space Marines ARE AN EXCEPTION anyways!This is very simple to grasp! Just look at the Troops updates in the 4 most recent starters.>death guard updated 8th edition, previous sculpts were from 3rd edition>necrons updated 9th edition, previous sculpts were 3rd edition>tyranids updated 10th edition, previous sculpts were 3rd editionNoticing a pattern? They're only updating kits that are around 20 years old, unless they were metal/finecast, or unless you are loyalist marines which have a shelf life closer to 10 years (see new intercessors)
>>97996206I’m 40. 3rd came out for me in high school. It was so fast and clean compared to 2nd and 5th+. My favorite was “4.5” edition. My only issue was low ap spam. I would’ve preferred it if they made the ap mechanic like this: if ap of the weapon is lower than the saving throw, it bypasses the armor and no throw is allowed. If the ap of the weapon is higher than the saving throw, the armor gets its full protection roll. If the AP is equal to the saving throw, then the saving throw is negatively modified by 1, so a terminator hit with an AP2 weapon doesn’t just die if wounded, but rather has a 3+ saving throw.
>>97996222>don't complain about women, you nigs>Racist but anti-sexist
>>97996206It's not like you can just search the archive or anything and find 50 times this discussion has already taken place over the last 3 years since 10th dropped, anon.
>>97996206its larping
>>97996236Theres literally no need to modify the AP system like that, Terminators got invulnerable saves, also there were cover saves, also you could take storm shields, etc.
>>97996240>missed my point entirelyI like the woman heads because they're unique, while anons are complaining that instead of the woman heads "nobody will use" (false hyperbole) they should have scarred man head eith bionic eye #92538. Just buy one of those existing bitz or make a bionic eye yourself dumb chuds, I will be making use of the female heads while you cry about how "marginalised" men are these days
>>97996230But if deldar get a refresh in 11th they can't be the 12th starters
>>97996240bigots are very diverse in their opinions, don’t you know? sexist but anti racist, racist but feminist, sexist and racist but only against black women, ect.
>>97996260That's what I said like all the way at the start, yeah.
>>97996200I had to use the torso ball from both of them to give the saturnine enough clearance to sit above the legs. I was planning to use the other stuff for future terrain if I ever get off my lazy ass.
>>97996222>trying to continue your dumbass argument 8 hours and a whole new thread laterHoly shit, get a fucking life man.
>>97996257>I like the woman headsOf course it's personal bias. It always is. (you)
>>97996240it's clearly pretending to fit in, it's performative racismif a different anon was whining about niggers then the same fag would run his mouth and try to play tough with performative sexism instead the truth is he defends both but has no arguments nor insults
>>97996250>invulnerable and cover savesOh I know. Just seemed wrong that heavy infantry like that needed to opt for cover saves, and often cover saves were 5+
>>97996250I prefer rending, it makes the ap value more interesting
>>97996268I've honestly never met a bigot, I don't think they exist. The dictionary definition of "bigotry" is "unjustified prejudice" but everyone I know with heavy prejudice against a group of people is very happy to explain all their reasons and justification for it, it's literally never ever "just because". To qualify as bigotry it has to be like, someone asks why you hate X kind of person and you just shrug and go "idk I just do". Every racist or sexist I have ever met has like libraries full of reasons.
>>97996268There are words for that: hypocrisy, lack of self-awareness
>>97996286Correct, but also if I want yo use those heads others will too, so "wahhh nobody will use them!?" is incorrect personal bias too
>>97996289They only needed it against AP 2 weapons which are designed specifically to kill them and were expensive points wise or had some kind of drawback (melta short ranged and low shots, plasma blows up in your face, etc)Unless you were playing against sweaty tryhard eldar lists or something but that's just eldar being OP fags it's not a problem with the AP system imo
>>97996305It's amazing how much better old AP was. I'm tired of this modifier bullshit where I literally never get to use my actual save.
>>97996302>but also if I want yo use those heads others will toono, because you only want to use those heads to argue that someone would want them in the first place
>>97996319See >>97996292
>>97996240>>97996268Also, not racist just because I used the funny gamer word on the forum where you can do that without consequences>>97996285I was asleep for most of that 8 hours, sue me
>>97996291Not really. It just means armour saves are worth very little so we get bloat in invulns and number of shots.
>>97996319what exactly in your own words is contradictory about hating a race but not hating woman?show your workings.
>>97996324The main reason the modifier system sucks is it forces you to do math every time something attacks. The fact that it's extremely easy math doesnt matter, its scientifically proven that even the easiest cognitive tasks still use up a store of your willpower/mental energy and cause slow fatigue over time. In a game where you probably make 50 tiny calculations for AP that makes you way more drained by the end of it than a game where you dont have to think about the AP beyond "do I get my save or not?" With the old system you didnt have to think. It is hard to explain to people who havent tried both how much better you feel after a game where you dont have to juggle numbers 20 times a turn.
>>97996330Nope, I've been planning to make Tanith and there are female guardsmen in their force thanks to the Verghastites. I also use all sorts of heads in my RPG character minis so always appreciate unique heads over repeated gruff male soldier short back and sides heads. Do you know how hard it is to find long haired male heads, for example? I always want more variety
>>97996343volume of fire will always work if wounding is possible; quantity is a quality all of its own
>>97996324I liked it too. Either your armor was proof against the weapon or it wasn’t. One thing I didn’t like about 3rd was power weapons just making armor irrelevant being all AP2. >>97996305Always hated multimeltas, leman russ demolishers,
>>97996352Nigger brains like you shouldn't be allowed to play games in the first place.
>>97996324Nta but originally, as in Rogue Trader era and possible 2nd, AP was a modifier and not a value check.I think both can be used to represent piercing weapons (Flat X AP) and crushing weapons (- X AP)
>>97996357>Do you know how hard it is to find long haired male heads, for example? I always want more varietyMaybe you should have taken your own advice and converted long hair for your models, don't tell me you're a hobbylet now
>>97996359Yes, but the worse the save is, the more effective each extra attack becomes and with rending AP you basically never have your real armour save. Trying to kill a 2+ save with volume of fire alone is way, way harder than a 3+ or 4+.>>97996361I mean, the tradeoff was not getting the extra attack for the close combat weapon and having to assault in the first place to be able to hit. I prefer that simplicity to the 5 types of power weapons we had in 7th.>>97996369I know, I still don't like it. 3rd to 7th AP is way better.
>>97996372I have, but it's a pain and I'd rather just have a head ready to go. Getting a small gauge plastic rod to make bionic eyes with is child's play in comparison
>>97996381>Trying to kill a 2+ save with volume of fire alone is way, way harder than a 3+ or 4+.as it should be?
>>97996395Of course. The problem is that with rending you're never getting a 2+ save. Any weapon worth shooting has at least AP-1 or some bullshit giving it devastating wounds (which shouldn't be a thing, weapon special rules should be inherent to the weapon, not something that can be granted).
>>97996363The irony of this retard calling anyone else a nigger brain without reading beyond the first sentence.
>>97996401Gonna chime in to say that Rending and Breaching are way better names than dev wounds and lethal hits even though they do the exact same thing.
A strange giant creature emerged from the warp during a battle between space marines and tyranids.
>>97994958Problem is, battles like Okinawa (or the Isonzo) are interesting at the personal level, not at the tactical or strategic levels typically associated with wargames. Moreover, the reason they're interesting on the personal level is how incredibly hideous they were, and how damaging to the soul. Not really suitable for an evening entertainment.
>>97996401>The problem is that with rending, you're never getting a 2+ save.You do when facing AP 0 weapons or if you have some kind of a bonus that offsets any AP they have.>Any weapon worth shooting has at least AP-1Yeah because AP is good to have? are we supposed to not use it or something? >which shouldn't be a thing, weapon special rules should be inherent to the weapon, not something that can be grantedwhy not, I think its fine for abilties to make weapons better
>>97996414so cuteee
>>97996363I guarantee there were many cases during your games where you forget things like when to pop a stratagem or Sustained Hits on one of your guns. That was because of the phenomenon that the Anon was describing. Yes, it gets easier if you play the same list over and over again and have memorized all important rules but most people play like one or two games month, likely less.
>>97996405Its the/a shitposter. I've noticed around this time of day we'll get someone itt who jumps into conversations with false assumptions, shoving words in people's mouths, even being outright oppositional for no good reason but to stir people up and drag out arguments. Examples include>>97996372>assumed an anon who is talking about conversions has never done a long hair conversion>>97996363>whole post relies on not having actually read the post being replied too, purposefully inflammatory>>97996319>continuing on pointless side discussion with a slur intended to provoke>>97996248>controversial statement with no reasoning given, intended just to rile someone up
>>97996421>You do when facing AP 0 weapons or if you have some kind of a bonus that offsets any AP they have.Yeah and there's way fewer AP0 weapons than there were AP3-6 with the old system.>are we supposed to not use it or something?My point is that it devalues armour saves because now the vast majority of weapons are reducing it whereas before something short of a lascannon or a melta would still get you your 2+ save.>why not, I think its fine for abilties to make weapons betterToo abstracted. Those rules are supposed to represent characteristics of the weapon type to give it flavour. Melta gets melta because of how melta weapons work. Giving melta to a random weapon because a dude with an oversized base is dancing a conga for the unit is just dumb.
>>97996415>interesting at the personal level, not at the tactical or strategic levels typically associated with wargamesBrother Helsreach isn't a good book because the strategy of the battle, it's because of the characters. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>97996292Only the lowest of IQ people practice actual bigotry. The break point between hating people on gut instinct or becaue of social expectations and hating them because of experience/observation is not very hard to make. So, ironically, the only bigoted people are usually among niggers and browns (take the Indian caste system for example).The people who are most often accused of bigotry (overwhelmingly whites) usually pass this break point with flying colors.
>>97996453I'm sorry if you're trying to bait but no, using the no no word randomly on a Taitian hand signing forum doesn't mean I'm a racist. Half of my family is from Trinidad also, you don't know I'm white dumby
>>97993826Help decide what I work on guys>Knight Destrier that I need to work on the base for>Octoblade that is like 90% done being built>Revenant Titan that the only thing I've worked on is recasting the shoulderpad because the seller lost one of them
>>97996443>Yeah and there's way fewer AP0 weapons than there were AP3-6 with the old system.theres quite a bit of them, mostly melee but still>My point is that it devalues armour saves because now the vast majority of weapons are reducing it whereas before something short of a lascannon or a melta would still get you your 2+ save.Thats the point of AP though, we are past the era of things being all but immune to some fire>Too abstracted.why is that bad>Giving melta to a random weapon because a dude with an oversized base is dancing a conga for the unit is just dumb.Then they end up like 8th and we have a dozen melta rules just to appease you
>>97996472I think you're either too dumb to follow the conversation or being dense on purpose. Both of which mean talking about this is futile.
>>97996472>reddit spacingGo back
>>97996240>>97996268NTA but for ages people have done STLs for female heads and bodies in case they just so happen to want one for their army in particular so there has clearlt been somewhat of a demand for it and as far as sprue space goes they still take up less than tactical rocks. I think a female centric upgrade sprue would probably be the best way to go about it but regardless I would rather have more customization options than less specially given how current GW directs itself. These heads are still a minority when it comes to sprue options as well, if it was 50/50 I would get being more ruffled about it but on my end it seems harmlessI still think in fluff mixed regiments are a fucking retarded concept but I got nothing against someone who wants to run an all female regiment or have a femme commissar on their army>inb4 ugly headsIt's a paintjob issue, there have been plenty of painters who make them look good. HM just so happens to be more familiar with painting angry dudes screaming>>97996297Just because you have belief A doesnt mean you need to have a completely unrelated belief B just to fit some arbitrary political archetype box, dont be a retard
>>97996447I gotta disagree there. there was certainly some cool dialogue, but 90% of it was pointless droning or peak 2008 edgy mary sue dialogue. I literally had to stop reading when grimaldus was confronting the mechanicus and princeps because I was cringing at how badass and cool grimaldus was meant to be. the general descriptions kept me engaged though. >helsreach holding out and hoping for the fleet to break the blockade as the orks are battering at helsreach>random civilians being armed to defend themselves>the administratum pointing out if the orks cripple their docking areas they will be cut off from supplies and helsreach will take decades to recover economically >grimaldus counting all the incident reports of his brothers dying>communications being broken and random squads running around the city aimlessly hoping to get back to imperium linesall of them give off the massive scale and impact the war is having on helsreach and inspire me to keep painting my orks so they can fuck up similar hives cities.
PRAISE BE SPACE KING
>>97996440And ofc, it's impossible to tell if it's multiple people acting up or if it's even the same person from one day to the next, but it's always around this time of day like clockwork. Also>point out the behaviour>it dies off straight awayI'm nooooticing, there's an admission of guilt if ever I did see one
>>97996532I still have no idea how grown man find that show funny, smiling friends tier bullshit
>>97996532New episode WHEN>>97996539You might just be a humorless edgelord, it's good natured loving fun from true fans of 40k
>>97996539joyless faggot
>>97996532this feels like such a weird drawing. if they like black templars, then they can draw black templars, and if they like space king they can draw space king, nothing is added by having them crossed over.>>97996539I haven’t watched it, but given you bringing up smiling friends as an example, you might just have shit taste.
>>97996554Im only using it because it has a similar type of haha random and awkward humor that just doesnt work for me, both are terribly unfunny
>>97996558So >>97996550 is correct then, carry on
>>97996558yeah, that’s cause you have shit taste. you ought to see a doctor about that.
>>97994026You talkin to me?
>>97996569nta but>unironically defending slop kingmy god this place really is beyond saving
>>97996576I think people are defending Smiling Friends more. You don't diss Zach around 4chen and get away with it, that sort of humour is peak internet culture
People simply don't know how much we've lost. This is Games Workshop having to put a message in White Dwarf magazine because they lost contact with Bill King of all fucking people lmao.The golden age is so far gone.
>>97996576Anyone who doesnt like space King is outing themselves as being a newfag who doesnt belong here. It's got the old 40k soul, and the old newgrounds/4chan soul. You are either some zoomzoom faggot trying too hard to be nonchalant or some gay faggy leftie redditoid mad about the show because the creators are based.
Sovl
>>97996582>The golden age is so far gone.I hate it so much.
>>97996595Those long summer Saturdays man. All your miniatures in ice cream tubs with kitchen roll for padding.I actually attend "Oldhammer" events now which are lovely. But it's only sometimes I really get that feeling I had back in the day
>>97996576if its meant to be like smiling friends, then yeah, I am defending Space King because Smiling Friends is a good show. fuck you too with your shit taste.
Pulling this shit out of my ass but>they've replaced the pistol rule with close quarters, pressumably so that more than just pistols can get it>in 30k pistols and other assault weapons get to shoot once in the shooting phase and another during the charge>twin lances getting melee gunsWhat if close quarters let guns shoot in the shooting face and then again during combat on top of the actual melee weapons?
Fuck. Man.
>>97996539I like smiling friends, but space king is definitely hampered by the chud pandering. feels like the kind of thing picrel would sit there giggling at while making seal noises and clapping his hands.
>>97996647wtf is left from
>>97996677>chuds, we made this for you!>k now BUY OUR MERCH BUY OUR MERCH BUY OUR MERCH BUY OUR MERCH
>>97996690Genuinely, the commercialization is super gross. I'm not gonna pretend it doesnt have its good laughs, but every other bit just doesnt land."I'm going to coom" lives rent free in my head though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNN1PSrydE
>>97996690I mean that's all modern media today.Especially the independent stuff to my knowledge.
>>97996677I hope someone draws that doorbell guy as a CSM and/or SM.Not sure what chapters they should be.
>>97996707If CSM, then it would be Iron Warriors because he’s pathetically smashing against the doors of the based Imperial FistsIf SM, then it would be Space Wolves for obvious reasons.
>>97996677Except that guy is the opposite of a chud he's fucking reddit made manifest
>>97996715>where's your geneseed?
>>97996726Being a chud isn't just about ideology, but also about looks and attitude, and that guy has that in spades.
>>97996726I mean Decalfag is a chud and he's a redditor on his 11th account.
>>97996728>open the fortress monastery.>NOW.
>>97993826My favorite part of this collage is how mad he kept getting SPECIFICALLY at the titan stepping on the wolf one. Like that one in particular hurt his feels.>>97994880damn I like that fat cunt midway between the greater knarloc and hte knarloc. All 3d printed?
>>97996749damn, I didn’t think about that. definitely shows he can’t be entirely trolling then. if it was just him fucking around he’d get “mad” at everything equally, but because its “knight” stomping on his wolves he genuinely gets upset and starts arguments over that.
>>97996726>>97996726He's literally the meme and no one knows why he's so perfectly the meme. He must even be aware of the meme and still chooses to be the meme.
>>97996742I am the Primarch Perterabo and this is MY GALAXY motherfucker.
Image limit.Time to bake.What's a good thread topic?
>>97996799TQ: is Space King for chuds, duds or studs?
>>97996799Orks edition>TQ how do /yourdudes/ make war against the greentide?
>>97996810Do you like orks, perchance?
>>97996586space king is pretty good if you frequent 1d4chan
>>97996816I dabble in liking orks here and there.
>>97996832Oh same, I have to admit the new grots and ork vehicles just announced are tempting me. All the "HQ" units in the new starter are great too
>>97996808it peaked in 2024 and has been downhill since about episode 2.
Today I discovered that the blood angel combat patrol has two blood angel sprues. Though i don't really need that many shoulderpads. And the guy who sold it to me for 100 bucks said it only had 5 sanguinary guards, but there are 6 in the box. Not sure what he was on about.
>>97996715>it would be Iron Warriors because he’s pathetically smashing against the doors of the based Imperial FistsOr it would be Rogal Dorn during the iron cage moment.
Where's the new thread Eggman??
>>97996707He should be a Mechanicus knocking on a Necron tomb or a GSC agent in a hive city.
new thread?
Bread>>97997008>>97997008>>97997008
>>97996447Misread the original complaint
>>97995081>That’s not the total number of detachments for the whole edition.nobody was thinking thisthe point is that we went from "70 detachments releasing alongside 11th" to "70 new, updated, and returning" which means much fewer than 70 new detachments, which is what literally everyone originally thought because they were being intentionally misleading originally to help build hype
>>97995353can I get a better view of his left arm?
>>97995004I like the servo skulls. They look like they're having a great time.
