Previous: >>97997550>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Did this happen?https://files.catbox.moe/ika7gh.gifhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44s [Open] [Open] [Open] [Open]https://files.catbox.moe/t0zq17.jpg>Why is mono green so boring?https://files.catbox.moe/2x8qly.jpg>Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)https://files.catbox.moe/8a43jw.jpgTQ: Should Magic have a consistent artstyle to carve out its own identity, or is the variety of artstyles a boon that separates the game from its competition?
>TQA plane should be immedeately identifiable by its art style. The specific direction WotC has settled into is bad and dumb.
>>98003371>implying that's not also in my deckHomie I run all of them.
>TQI think I agree with >>98003590You don't need a consistent artstyle for all cards. But it would be really nice to have consistency for certain planes of themes.
>>98003504>TQ: Should Magic have a consistent artstyle to carve out its own identity, or is the variety of artstyles a boon that separates the game from its competition?I think it's a universally accepted belief that every plane should have it's own easily identifiable art style. Styles can differ between planes, wildly even, but I should be able to look at a card and have a good chance of knowing where it came from. Also bring back blocks I'm so fucking mad they stopped doing them
We needed a block of Aetherdrift where all the cards had this style and also a totally untested mechanic that shows up in the third set of the block that makes Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe look weak.
>>98003638God we need more one-phyrexian-mana cards in general. Fucking PEAK gameplay countering a T1 Sol Ring when I haven't even had a turn yet. The fucking salt it produces will season my fries for eternity
>>98003664Based.Possibly redpilled.
Wait what the fuck?? I thought "summoning sickness" was a fan term, not officially recognized language used in the game
>>98003692Reminder text isn't rules text and doesn't have to be strictly accurate. The comprehensive rules spell it out properly
>>98003638>We needed a block of AetherdriftThis is shitty bait but I unironically believe this. The only problem with speed is it didn't get enough support. This goes for most of the one-off planes wotc has introduced in the past few years. I'd be on board if they had mechanical support instead of schizophrenically bouncing between planes every set with no unifying mechanics. I'd have been on board for rabbit or bat tribal if it got more than one set of support. Same for roles, saga summons, speed, firebending. Mechanics, like speed, you actually want to build your deck around gets fucked for having a lack of pieces these days. It's no wonder everyone wants to play goodstuff. It's no wonder the most built commanders from recent sets are always some open ended insanely strong piece of cardboard that doesn't interact with anything the set itself is doing at all.
>>98003696...Whack.
>>98003697I called this shit the moment they announced they were ending blocks. I knew game design was just going to be "hey look at this shiny new thing" over and over until the game dies, never giving ANY actual support after the set releases. Mutate had such high potential but was left in the trash. Same with stuff like rad counters, speed, City's Blessing, etc etc etc
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98003692Summoning sickness was the original term from when creatures were 'summons'
here's how dan can still win
>>98003504you literally already asked this tqNew TQ: Should OPs have a consistent TQ to carve out its own identity, or is the variety of TQs a boon that separates the post from it's previous thread?
>>98003806I thought this post was about Sumo for like 10 seconds
>>98003697Pic related was custom made to helm a deck of Saga Creatures. The absolute most you can find for her deck is 13-15, all of which vary wildly in quality. How many years is it going to be before we see at least 5 new Bant colored Saga Creatures? How many years is it going to be before we see 10 new creatures for any of these build around mechanics like Max Speed and X-bending and Manifest Dread/Morph/Disguise etc? Meanwhile the power creep is moving at light speed in this game, where cards not made in the last 2-3 years are falling behind in design space as the mana cost of good cards is going down while their power and toughness go up. We now have good repeatable spells stapled onto creatures with the prepared mechanic.By the time we get new cards supporting old build around mechanics/commanders all that old shit is going to be so outdated no one will even bother.
>>98003697>saga summonsRetvrn to Kaldheim will support it.
>>9800371750 life is objectively superior to both.
>>98004002She looks pretty good here despite being only the 3rd best X
>>98004002>How many years is it going to be before we see at least 5 new Bant colored Saga Creatures?Depending on how much squenix liked mtg ff's performance, as early as 2027
Why do new players insist on earning a reputation as being the >insert commander playereven when it's clear they're not having fun?It's a format with thousands of playable characters to try out. What mental illness causes them to do this to themselves?
>>98004002Despite her being a Summoner, it's pretty Clear Yuna was intended for a +1/+1 counter deck given the entire rest of the deck she came in. I'd call Saga Creatures a niche way to use her or Tidus.
She could OHKO you without breaking a sweat.
>>98003504>TQ: Should Magic have a consistent artstyleFuck no. MTG art went to shit the moment they started enforcing a "house style".>>98003635>I think it's a universally accepted belief that every plane should have it's own easily identifiable art style"Universally accepted" my fat ass. Planes should have a THEME but no style. Style should depend entirely on the artist and ideally be as wildly different from other artists as possible.
>>98004079>I disagree with something, that means everyone else does too!!!
Why did Kinnan get removed from the GC list when it's still one of the most oppressively strong cards in edh?If anything this bitch needs to be fuckin banned
>>98004090He didnt say everyone shares his opinion though
>>98004100Same reason Deflecting Swat got removed. Because lol, lmao even.
>>98004045You use her to summon a Saga Creature like Chocomog with her ability, it eventually winds up with at least 4 lore and 2 +1 counters, it dies and you can throw those 6 +1s on yuna or the next summon to keep building them. Her alt even directly supports this by bringing back sagas from the graveyard.It's not a super strong deck but its clearly how the person who designed her intended Yuna to function as a commander. Maybe in 5 years when we have 5-10 more Saga Creatures she'll be viable.
>>98004257Final fantasy was insanely popular. Wotc would be out of their goddamn mind if they're going back to Marvel five more times and not Final Fantasy even once. Especially with the laundry list of shit they didn't put in the first time. Anons were lamenting their favorite scrimblo didn't make it, or that their card was a sad sack of shit uncommon after the set came out. There's plenty of room for more and people are still hungry. It can happen. Summons have a way better chance of new support than some other one off mechanics will ever get. It's been talked about in these threads recently but werewolves could really use some new cards.
Your favorite theme park plane?Your least favorite theme park plane?
>complaining about a lack of saga creaturesImagine needing more.
>>98004100>>98004100I honestly do not get why, same with Yuriko and K'rrik. They're all annoying to play against and usually have to be removed immediately. Next they're going to remove The One Ring from the GC list since you can remove it with Return to Dust.
Demons and devils should be one tribe. devils are pointless as their own thing.
>>98004366Demons are mostly black and more about manipulationDevils are mostly red and more about causing chaos
>>98004366Ackually devils and demons are flavored quite differently from each other. Demons offer a bargain for power, some sort of loss of life, sacrifice, or mana investment for a powerful effect or big evasive body. They're big, centered in black mana, and they very often have flying. Devils on the other hand are all about pain and torment. Devils usually have some sort of ability that repeatedly inflicts damage, amplifies it, or feeds directly off of the pain. They are smaller creatures almost exclusively found in red but usually have some positive keyword, but rarely ever flying which is incredibly common for demons. Look at their tokens if you need further example of this. Demon tokens are big flyers usually paid for by a demonic contract or ritual sacrifice. Devil tokens are small and easy to kill but pop for an extra bit of pain to lob anywhere you want. Cards that produce them often make them as expendable lackeys to cause mayhem.
>>98004426Demons don't bargain. Ouphes bargain.
>>98004441Alright poor choice of words on my part, you can have this one.
>>98004441Fucked up that Eldraine doesn't have enterprising demons to offer bargains.
>>98004477Also absolutely bizarre they didn't reuse the keyword in Duskmourn considering that's the entire lore of the plane
>>98004293I wouldn't be shocked if FF was the first set of 2027. It's basically guaranteed to be coming back.Werewolves I think are done, unless they make a whole bunch of new ones with a totally new transform mechanics. Players HATE daybound and MaRo is on record saying the design team refuses to errata werewolves to unify their mechanics ( https://mtgrocks.com/mtg-designer-explains-missing-innistrad-remastered-errata/ ) so unless there's a legion of new werewolves or the design team pulls their heads out of their asses about them, I don't see how the tribe can recuperate.They need too much love and intelligent design, and I don't think the current designers have either left in the gas tank anymore with 7+ sets a year.
>>98004482Pretty much all of the most recent sets have all been half-baked, at best. An entire racing set, and only ONE fucking game mechanic that's car related? And only on like 40 cards out of 300??? Fuck off
>>98004502>one of the best set gimmick commanders is online only WotC needs a fatwa against them.
>>98004527Oh my god I would kill for a first/double strike tribal commander like that. We already have a cool haste tribal commander like Ognis. I would absolutely build one around most of the keyword abilities
>enters>removes 3 loyalty counters>targets youHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>98004482There weren't many demons in the set and it is already pretty packed with keywords. Their effects are powerful but pretty generic monoblack. And I don't recall that the vaguely similar and more numerous tribes (horrors, nightmares) had any pronounced themes associated with them in terms of their mechanics (contrast spirits which interact with rooms), so if there was a choice to develop one or the other, I'd call demons "good enough" and ask for nightmares to get a second pass.I'm gonna stop myself, looking back on DSK easily gets me rambling about complaints I have that even I don't know how to address, and it only brings my mood down.
>>98004482Might have been fun to see it on artifacts since all their shit is haunted.
>>98004067Anal.
>>98004570Thanks I was at 4 life anon
>>98004570It's always brutal. They also always lose first, so they effectively just crab bucket me down with them.
>>98004621>game is down to me, player A, and player B>B is far ahead of both of us and is about to end the game>tell A I've got a plan, but I need help stalling for a turn>A immediately goes to kill me>dies to B right after>"AT LEAST I GOT SECOND PLACE"EVERY FUCKING TIME THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE YOU MORON
>>98004570
>>98004067she cute
>>98004650I told it before but>playing a 3 person game with friend A and B>friend A is playing Oloro and has the life he needs to win with Felidar Sovereign which is on board along with a Vampire of the Dire Moon>Tell friend B with 5 creatures that he should swing at least 3 of his strongest creatures at friend A since he won't block with Sovereign and it'd put his life total below 40>"Yeah but he has a creature with deathtouch and I don't want one of my creatures to die">"if you don't, we lose next turn due to Sovereign">"umm, I'm just gonna past turn, I don't want my creatures to die">we lose next turn and he acts like he didn't know what Sovereign did/does.He honestly has the worst threat assessment I've ever seen
>order cards from an lgs 10 days ago>still not here >lgs is only 70 minutes drive away from me Goddamn I hate Canada.
>>98004921>ask LGS to pull cards>two weeks pass>ask what's going on>"oh yeah we were 90% of the way through, and then the new guy put them back by accident"T-thanks
Anyone else hate keeping track of a million tokens? I tend to cut cards, even ones that are good in my deck, just to reduce the number of different tokens my deck can produce
>>98005081Nah.
>>98005081I just use single token cards and dozens of +1/+1 counters to represent creature tokens
>>98004044They fail to realize identity is earned, not chosen
>>98004570I don't play bracket 4 so this won't happen to me
>>98003710Mutate is an un-set mechanic and it is a good thing it was left in the trash.
So how much is it going to cost?
>>98004570I don't because I constantly drain 8 life from Sylvan Library and Black Market Connections. I'm cooked.
>>98005081Yes I have. I don't like playing with many tokens. Still haven't built a complicated token deck like in white green, but I do have a Darien token deck. What do I do? Just use a couple solider tokens and dice. If I ever have it become really complicated I'll invest in those reusable token cards.
>>98005599I would've thought this was the coolest thing ever. In 2011.
>>98005599200Value will be only slightly above something like the TMNT deck
>>98004650as expected from the third place moron.
>>98005599article says it's $150
>>98005728So it'll sell for $300
>>98005081That was the problem with the TDM Zurgo precon but now I want to deliberately make an oops all tokens deck with Neriv. And I know I would hate playing it.
>>98005081variety is annoying because you can't just use a die to represent a token (unless you're trying to gotcha someone), but if its a large quantity of the same token then it isn't that difficult
>>98005599who cares, the art sucks anyway
>>98005895pic related?
>>98005599It'll sell out before you can buy it either way
>>98005599>throne of eldraine and roaming thronewhat would be more jewish, wotc counting on fomo and putting these in the foundation monotribal decks after this or refusing to to put either of them in any of the 5?
>>98003504>TQMagic should have, and does generally have, its own broad art style. I would not want a super narrow art atyle, but I alsohate seeing shit like anime on the cards, or movie/tv show screenshots.
>>98006017this but traditional art style instead of digital
>>98004477They have witches for that. And faeries. And dragons. And archons. And knights. And ouphes. Eldraine is a plane with a very enterprising spirit, in the sense that everyone and their mom seems to offer optional premium services for an additional fee.
>>98006025I was definitely thinking of when the art used to be hand-painted when I wrote this. I forgot so many artists only do digital now.
>>9800492170 minutes? Hot damn. I'm upset mine's 50 minutes away. Canada fucking sucks.
>>98005934cope
Damn I love tokenslop
I was considering building a Baylen, the Haymaker deck but goddamn I have to keep track of so many fucken tokens, what a pain in the assMaybe investing in some infinitokens is a smart idea
>>98003833The tq is just to spur conversation, which means OP's tq worked since there was a response
>>98006232This one at least has character to it
>>98005081I don't mind a variety of tokens, it's anything that puts counters on tokens that drives me batty.
>>98004570It's hard to sound mad when your opponents decide to screw themselves over.
>>98006750Just get one of each token and start stacking dice on them.
>>98006952Can I get a functional reprint of this without the anime boy on the front?
>>98006977Avatar is the most important TV show of the 21st century
>>98004300This but with Knights of the Round
>>98006990I thought that was TMNT
>>98007008Pro-all prevents damage assignment dumbass
>>98007017I know, I should've posted this along with it
>>98007017*Skullcracks u*
>>98005599Pretty cool deck, too bad it will cost almost a minimum wage here in Brazil lmao
>>98007005No?
>thussy
>>98004257I'd believe this one was intended for Saga Creatures, not the Bant one.
>>98006952not a valid target dobeit
>>98007164It seems to me that Sorin's -3 is an ability that has a target and can thus be redirected.
Mail's in
>>98007173>target opponentyou can't turn it back on the owner
>>98006750Weak
>>98006952>this is your brain on faggotyUB
>>98007179It is funny to me how masterpieces were once the ultimate bling for a card. Now many many Kaladesh masterpieces have new printings more expensive and blinged up than those.>Kaladesh Masterpiece Mana Vault: Like 600>Ebin chase Fallout Mana Vault: 1500
When will magic see its first artifact enchantment creature land?
>>98007188Yeah but the most important part is that you don't get hit.
>>98007212>trying to ub strawman away redirect lightninglol
>>98007229When maro decides to ruin another format with a horizons-like set.
>>98007229you can turn lands into artifact enchantment creatures with a big enough hammer
>>98007237If they could they would do a pauper horizons
>>98007258It's one of my favorite token creatures
>>98007228Kaladesh master pieces are also super pringles
This was fun last thread, post more calming and peaceful card art.
>>98007228It really do be, and I'm astonished anyone would pay for that lmaoNow with all of that combined, my Konrad deck is ready for playing tomorrow>>98007293I love gorgeous sunset colors
>>98006977Avatar is westernslop, not anime
>>98007269Made for BSD (Big Shattergang Decks)
>>98007293
Good UBs:CastlevaniaAvatarLord of the ringsFinal fantasyArcaneDungeons and dragonsMonster hunterBorderline:Street fighterWarhammer 40000Evil DeadPrincess brideMonty pythonTomb RaiderClueGodzillaBad UBs:Walking deadTransformersTeenage mutant ninja turtsStranger thingsFortniteCreepshowDoctor whoJurassic ParkFalloutHatsune MikuAssassin's CreedGhostbustersChild's PlayMarvelSpongeBob SquarePants My Little PonyStar trekThis this list has no bearing on how I feel about the IP or execution of the cards themselves this is simply a list on how well the IPs mesh with magic and if it were up to me every UB would be silver bordered
>>98003806We know WotC threw you under the bus dan and they paid you to take the blame.
>>98007386
>>98007293I could live here
>>98007386I like how one of the things listed here isn't even real.
>>98007293I love all the Foundations basics but this is my favorite
>>98006973>Just get one of each token and start stacking dice on themWhat about when Finneas starts putting +1 counters on my tokens?
>>98007422
>>98007236>trying to imply I'm implying anything other than the fact Universe Beyond plebs are dipshits who wouldn't be able to infer "target opponent" means you can't target yourselflol, lmao even
>>98007406It's okay a lot of people can't read these days
>>98005081Nah, I just make and print as many shitty tokens I need for any deck.I hate using counters more than I hate dealing with tokens.
ban sol ringban rhystic studyban tutors
>>98007509I fucking love bant I would go there on vacation.
>>98007481We never had a Castlevania UB, anon. We had an UB of the novel "Dracula" as a bonus sheet in Innistrad.
>>98007386For me, it's The Venture Bros. and Doom.
>>98007510>Ban tutorsDoes that include rampant growth and crop rotation?
>>98007386Fair assessment actually.
>>98007546Yes, it includes land tutors. I'll add that to the goddamn ritual post.
>>98007546Yes. And fetches.
>>98007546It even counts evolving wilds and the like.
>>98007510This but alsoBan all reserve list cardsBan partnersBan past and present game changersThere, I saved the format
>>98007510what about Shield-Wall Sentinel?
>>98007561this but revert everything to as it was in September of 2024.
>>98007554The point of ritual posts isn't to put them into the OP you retarded faggot.
>>98007386Dear Christ, has it been that many already?
>>98007533Except we did get Castlevania cards bro they just weren't very good
>>98007567Not allowed. You can't even have self-assembler.
>>98007577
>>98007575And many mooore~
>opponent randomly plays banned card>everyone shrugs and lets it happen
>>98007567If there is text on the card that states "search your library" then it should be banned.
>Player A: "I redirect Sorin's ability back to you.">Player B: "No, you can't. Says target opponent.">Player A: "Okay I'll have it hit someone else.">>98007486>"NOO!!! THIS MISREAD MEANS UB PLAYERS ARE RETARDED! WHERE IS MY REDDIT KARMA?!!!"
>>98007486I've seen people misread how a card works with in-universe cards as well though.
>>98007587In all seriousness I would've unironically traded duskmorne for a Castlevania set
>>98007590did he died?
>>98007671WOTC replaced all their talent with DEI hires, so the in-universe IPs are doomed to suck. Wish it wasn't this way, but well-managed high fantasy UBs will continue to feel more like Magic than actual Magic sets.
>>98007696>another propaganda-eating retard pretends he knows what DEI meansDEI literally just means that you have to consider all applicants and can't write them off due to race, gender, gender identity, sexuality, partnership/relationship status, and it also protects veterans. It helps conservatives more because they are, on average, uneducated by comparison to their democrat peers.
>>98007690Yes. Cause of Death: Ensloppification
>>98007592I'll let Griselbrand in the 99 slide but if someone is playing some jeweled lotus or combo fuckery that's when I raise a stink
>>98007708ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>98007708>muh racismReddit is back down the hall and to the left, anon.
>>98007671For all the shit the set gets over its presentation and the general unevenness with which new ideas were implemented, I still think DSK's new keyword mechanics are alright and Rooms are simply a cool addition to enchantment matters. The frustrating parts that I see mostly have to do with the setting, some of the tribes, and the uneven mechanical support. I'd rather see that that stuff is made to work instead of getting any UB that might substitute for it.
>>98007725>>98007717>telling you to the truth is shitposting and redditLook, man, if you wanna argue that race relations are good that's fine (wrong but fine), but you can't possibly tell me everyone gets a fair shake in private businesses and their hiring processes
>>98007696Like many (all) of the new planes, conceptually they're solid but when executed they can't help but to make it lame and gay I was kinda thinking of making a video on how I would have done planes like duskmorne, ikoria, and thunder junction
>>98007748You think a policy from a government beholden to Israel is going to be fair and impartial?
>>98007764No, I don't, but I think that any step in the right direction is still a step rather than leaving things in the quagmire of systemic racism/sexism and giving those retarded reddit drones platforms to pretend they're the most oppressed people in the history of the world.
>>98007755>was kinda thinking of making a videoGo for it and post it here when you're done anon, we desperately need some board-created OC that isn't incestuous furry smut
>>98007604>...to screw themselves over.ESL or bad at baiting? XD
>>98007708>>98007725>>98007748>>98007764>>98007777Completely off topic discussion, please take this elsewhere
>>98007783Don't say that, Swordfag might start posting his garbage.
>>98007748ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>98005081I fucking love making too many stupid tokens
>>98007797glimmers are always enchantment creatures, and a few other things from duskmourn make horror enchantment creatures.
>>98007789>Player A: "I redirect Sorin's ability back to you.">Player B: "No, you can't. Says target opponent."Think that part was perfectly comprehended.
>>98007795https://youtu.be/Q78CyL0StBM
>>98007808While I like the ability the artwork is reminding me why Duskmourn didn't hit it off with me.
>>98007863>Believe>DoubtRockstar Games UB when?
>>98007834Vagrant Plowbeast is what some women call me
>>98007863duskmourne has such cursed set deisgn, it's ridiculous how they could nail the monster designs but insist on such godawful humans
Just started playing MtG for the first time awhile back and I need some advice. I decided to build a new deck and I'm stuck between an ulamog, the defiler deck I built, or a lord of pain deck.They're probably both shit since I've got no idea what I'm doing deckbuilding wise.Anyone know which one'd probably be more fun?
>>98007863this but bloomburrow
>>98007916
>>98007890Hell yeah, brother!
>>98007916>>98007923Lord of Pain by default. People hate playing against Edlrazi.
https://moxfield.com/decks/y4buhwVT0E6zwxpAHMva1ABuilt this a few weeks ago, and I just can't seem to win with it. I get 1 big token and people just focus fire me down, meanwhile random green player is just constantly shitting out value and being ignored. Is there any way to maybe make this a bit more resilient to focus fire without breaking the bank?
>>98007937Fai enough, never played against them. I'm guessing it's mostly because of shit like annihilator and the massive stompy cards.Kinda want to build a deck that's super mean though at some point so I might keep it for another time.
>cat got in my room and knocked over all the card piles on my deskWelp
>>98007999It's good to have a mean deck to play against other mean decks, but you need a balance of decks, and the first EDH deck you should have should be bracket 2-3 and not cause people to groan when you tell them who the commander is.
>>98007898>how they could nail the monster designsThe nightmares are one thing, but largely the monster designs felt uninspired to me. Basically a lot of it was horror kitsch and not in a charming familiar way.
>>98008023I've got a few others I've built. First one was a skullbriar deck that fell flat on it's face when a friend of mine pulled out a goad deck. The other one was an augustin deck that was more fun but it's not as aggressive as I'd like.Main reason I want a mean deck on hand is because my friend who played the goad deck has a bunch of friends who apparently play optimised decks so I kinda want something a bit more punishing and mean, not outright un-fun though.
>>98007795Nah i'd rather have swordbro than incestuous furry smut in the OP
>>98008062You mean the game's story?
>>98008077Even wotc is calling you out btw
>>98007304why does this pic look so bad
>>98008062Are there any good smutfics for this game? Obviously gay furry incest is disqualified by default.
>>98008107Quick and my phone is like 12 years old and lived through all sorts of abuse lolMost of my pics feel like that
>>98008098That's the gay dragon pointing out the Jacestice League arc is shit you media illiterate trog.
>>98008012>Leaving your shit out when you have cats, dogs, or kidsThat's on you buta clean up your desk
>>98008124All of UW is shit though
Fascinating how this whole debacle really outed the schizos in the Magic community>81 year old man forced to make digital art for UB>can't do it>does a lazy cut and paste job>gets caught>agent defends him at first>then makes a statement about his cognitive decline and that he did the right thing once he "understood">schizos lose their fucking minds>an old man used to do good work so doing bad work now is impossible>WotC must be responsible somehow>they accidentally sent a draft to print and somehow paid this guy to take the blame>they were unreasonable in the creative process and he submitted a cut and paste in defiance>the agent's statement is meant to be a clue that WotC is to blame and the agent just can't risk their business relationship with WotCGenuine fucking no-meds posts all over the community.
>>98008098Why is the homosexual flying lizard yelling at Tintin?
>>98008176Ok Mark.
I have no idea how to play commander, nor have I ever played Magic irl, but I discovered this card today and I now habe the urge to build a deck around it. Would that be possible?
>>98008193Yeah
>>98008176>Company that has been habitually raping their customers, staff, and IPs is automatically assumed to be at faultDoes that really surprise you? You act like Wotc hasn't been caught on shady bullshit every couple of months
>>98008178The reason is they really wanted an excuse to do this meme
>>98008193Yeah, there's a couple of directions you can take it.You can just build a goad pile, which is fun at lower power tables since you're stopping the war from going cold and speeding up the game. I'm pretty sure there's an infinite with it to make all your opponents draw their entire deck since it taps to produce mana.
>>98008202>erm any schizo theory I can come up with must be true because corporation bad!Here's the thing, corporation can be bad, and cognitive decline artist can cut and pasteThe two aren't mutually exclusive, the fact that everyone is using "corporation bad" to argue "artist didn't do it" is legitimately delusional.If WotC made a print error, why would they throw the artist under the bus rather than just leave the people involved in approving it nameless and call it an oopsie-doodles?You have to believe so much fucking bullshit without evidence to justify WotC being at fault and Frazier not.Does it not just make more sense that the old man who doesn't work well with digital media had a senior moment and did something stupid? That's what his agent says happened.What's your evidence for the shit you believe other than an inherent distrust of a corporation?
>>98008211But the Tintin doesn't look similar at all.
>>98008202Funny that out of all the artists that wotc has villified over the years the community suddenly found their spine and decided to defend dan out of the blue>because they believe wrongthink is worse than plagiarism, nothing more than that
>>98008239>believe so much bullshit >wotc lazy and frequently shitty to everyone>frazier loves MTGWow what a complicated set of contradictory beliefs
>>98008239Show us where on the doll Dan Frazier touched you.
>>98008211
>>98008260>>wotc lazy and frequently shitty to everyone>>frazier loves MTG>Wow what a complicated set of contradictory beliefsNo see this is nothing. You haven't attempted to explain the actual situation.Answer me some questionsWhere did this piece come from?Who do you think put it together?How do you think it was put together?Who do you think submitted it as the final piece?Why do you think this piece was submitted?Whose fault is it that it was plagiarised?Who is to blame and why?Which statements about the incident are true, if any?
>>98007985you're already spending a lot of life on triggers, I don't like the talismans. I might replace them with pristine and the two 'untap each opponent's untap step' 3cmc rocks.you also have a lot of 'you may exile a card from your hand rather than pay this card's mana cost' and a lot less card advantage. do you find yourself paying for those usually, or being out of cards?did you read the book Understanding Gush?you can also use the expensive cards with cheaper suspends. I killed someone with Phthisis once.I have run this with invasion of segovia and it's very nice.they've also printed some neat flash noncreatures recently like nowhere to run. you're paying more than their cmc, but asinine antics and final showdown are also very nice in this sort of setup. I think I had stuff like polymorphist's jest and mass diminish.one option is to go harder on stax effects and stop people from hitting you, another is to just be table police and kill stuff that everyone knows is a threat. the precon had cards for casting a spell every turn, so leaning more into cantrips and such. an issue I can see arising is what do you do when you have rule of law out and someone responds to your end of turn Opt by killing your commander?
>>98008286Honestly, the situation is more like people don't care and will just default to blaming Wotc, who is far from faultless here even if we take everything at face value. I, for one, don't see what this changes even if Dan Frazier did this maliciously.
>>98008286Are you stupid? Genuinely. You're literally trying to striate an extremely narrow set of circumstances into like a dozen extra questions that are irrelevant like "who is to blame and why" and "who is at fault"How desperate are you that you can't even stop yourself from repeating the same question?
>>98008107Prismari just has an awful design, and it's not a nu-strixhaven thing. This was concept are from OG strixThere is one funny thing about this card though:>To this day, the Founder Dragons roam the plane, the five deadly sages of the skies. They no longer associate directly with Strixhaven, preferring to let the deans of the college speak in their stead.This random student's piece was so offensively shitty that Prismari came out of retirement and far, far out of his way just to personally berate him.
>>98008337Dammit forgot pic
>>98008176Hey So basically I just don't trust them (the jews!!)I know….. UGH I know…. I’m sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It’s just that I don't trust them is all
>>98008326>a dozen extra questions that are irrelevant like "who is to blame and why" and "who is at fault"These are completely relevant questions, and note how you had to clip the end of one of them to make them sound more similar>Whose fault is it THAT IT WAS PLAGIARISEDYou could answer this many different ways.Dan did it on purpose, so he is at faultDan did it by accident, so no one is at faultWotC made this card, so they are at fault3 fucking answers for you right off the bat>Who is to blame and why?If you believe Dan did it on purpose then you could say he to blameIf it was all an accident then you could say no one is to blameOr you could say WotC is at fault for not catching itYou could say Dan did it on purpose but WotC is to blame for asking for too many editsThey're completely different questions with plenty of possible answersAll I'm getting from this interaction is that you genuinely haven't given any of this shit any thought at all because you don't think you need to.
>>98008311It's not that anything changes, but rather it's just another case of the skewed priorities of the outrage mob
>>98008344Would not surprise me if Prismari is what Michael Jackson's vitiligo penis looked like when he was still alive.
>>98008176I was kinda hoping the schizos would post again after dan made a second apology- but nothing happened. swordfag sure was adamant the other day that the whole thing was a conspiracy
>>98008337He didn't even reply to the Prismari post
>>98008359>swordfag sure was adamant the other day that the whole thing was a conspiracyWhy am I not surprised?
>>98008360Please excuse me, I'm suffering cognitive decline in my old age (28)
>>98008355The whole situation does not do anything to establish more credibility on Wizards' part. Outrage seems like a perfectly reasonable response.
>>98008374>>98008254
>>98008377It's not surprising when you consider the collective frustration that artists have against WotC. Dan Frazier may not be the best rallying call, but it makes sense given the work that he's done.It's fine to admit that you just dislike the people who criticize wotc.
>>98008359I don't like it, and I'm sure we don't/won't have all the details, but there's no reason to go start a rally or anything lmao at the end of the day, if they actually ship the garbo they showed, if I get one I'll just sell it/trade it for something I want more>>98008364I will, under almost all circumstances, give the individual more credence than the corporation. As much as I think this situation smells, it's come and gone and there's nothing to obsess over or write giant conspiracy posts about, you know?
>>98008405>...um, better late than never!Never late is always better
>>98008414What the fuck are you on about?
>>98008405'The people who criticize wotc' cant even admit they were wrong about terese, how can you ever take their outrage seriously
>>98008411Did Dan Frazier plagiarize Marta Neal’s work, yes or no?
>>98008423>rallying for dan in the big 2026 is totally not us being late in giving artists the benefit of the doubt
Commander?
>>98008433No clue, though I sure hope not
post the most recent deck you just finished brewing
>>98008457Oh shit, I've never actually read The Destined Warrior, that's pretty cool!
>>98008453Who else would have done it if not him?
Anyone have a pdf or an epub of the Strixhaven book?I'm morbidly curious. I think Strixhaven's alright, even if I know I'm going to get preached at about respecting diverse pronouns or whatever.
>>98008411words words words
>>98008480You can tell something's shit when it's not even worth pirating
trying to make a really mean bracket 3 deck, sort of stuck between wheels and discard/slug hate. right now building off nekusar but im kinda stuck between taking out more wheels for more hate pieces.
>>98008487>>98008473Please remember to do your part and not reply to tripfags.
>>98008453lol what a nigger you are
>>98008503>doesn't cling to the conspiracy or make outlandish claims>hopes it wasn't one of the best artists in the history of the game shitting the bed on the single most important card of the yearHow is that niggardly. I 100% believe WoTC is just doing a corpo shuffle to cover up laziness and shipping out something either unfinished or unpolished after Aronowitz made it very clear neither of them had seen the """"finished"""" piece and how they were in revisions already, meaning that his submissions were seen and reviewed and told to be edited.
>>98008498I like confronting him with the absurdity of his own beliefs and watching how he autisticly stops replying the moment you catch him in a contradiction
>>98008453>is actually acquiescing to the corpo mind controlI thought you were cool.
>>98008480Sure give me a sec
>>98008239I don't care about anything youre blubbering about always take a stance that Wotc is at fault until proven innocent it's what they deserve
>>98008516>after Aronowitz made it very clear neither of them had seen the """"finished"""" piece Completely ignoring the later post where Aronowitz literally says he didn’t have the full picture when he made that post and that Dan’s been in cognitive decline.I’m telling you buddy, Dan made some attempts to work digitally that Aronowitz saw, then he gave up because he’s fucking 81 years old, submitted the plagiarized work, and that’s all she wrote
>>98008539>I will not listen to reasonYeah clearly lol
>>98008472Haven't tried it yet but it's one of the only party commanders I felt like making, hopefully it's fun
>>98008480>>98008534https://litter.catbox.moe/7qzd5vw84lkrt6n8.epub
I hate both the artist class and WotC so this is like black on black violence to me
>>98008547If the reason is taking the word of one of the most lying, greedy, cheating, corner cutting, cock sucking piece of shit companies in media then yes I'm completely at odds with reason
>>98008473Considering it took me all of 5 minutes to do it in PTS in a discord call with a fellow retard, straight up literally anyone. Not to imply they got anyone off the street to do it, of course, but really all this highlights for me is how little I know about the artist-to-card production pipeline at WotC. No clue what steps, people, departments, etc this shit goes through, or their level of priority on various projects. Maybe I'm putting far too many eggs in the basket that TOR and The Hobbit are hugely important upcoming material and that they'd have eagle eyes on it. This could simply be everyone is wrong and gay and we get a shitty reprint at the end of it.>>98008542I'd be willing to believe that, as unpleasant as it is, but I'll always do that thing where I get stuck on him picking one of the two arts on actual Magic Cards to "paint over" lmao>>98008552I think it will be, at least compared to the others, since Party is a genuinely cool mechanic but just turns often into weird disjointed tribal x 4a simple, easy to understand +3/+0 is solid
I'm having so much fun with this guy, I never thought that BG could be such a fun color combination, the only thing that sucks is that untapping cradle is not as easy as it is in UG
>>98008562Thanks bro.
>>98008581>guy*gal
non-legal commander with a text box interesting enough that you wish you could brew it?Idc about the smile tribal thing, I would be happy to excise that and just keep the party ability if that made this a legal commander
>>98008587What really? I've been calling it a guy for like a month and nobody corrected me irl lmao
>>98008344This is such a whack design.I'm not sure if I'd call it objectively bad, but it's so alien for a Dragon, which I guess is the point.
>>98008605Beledros Witherbloom is a bearded lady.
>>98008615Reminds me of Seath the Scaleless.
>>98008617>>98008587Wait so which of the big dragons are guys and which aren't? I've just been calling them all guys so far.
>>98008457Just finished polishing it and doing a couple swap outsIt's going to my LGS tomorrow as is
>>98008617Please tell me that Etali is a guy or I'm sure that someone in my shop is 100% sure that I have a weird fetish with reptiles
Is this still worth running?
>>98008625It's very reminiscent of Seath with the tendrils.I think the big thing that's losing it points is probably the face? It's face is like that of a cetacean, which while it does play into the aquatic elements with the rest of the deisgn, but it's also very dinosaur-esque which is something I feel like you should avoid when designing dragons.
>>98008642Almost every big dragon/dino is female.Nicol Bolas, his gay brother, the jeskai dragon on Tarkir, and some of the other original elder dragons are male. Everyone else is female.It's one of those IN THE WILD IT'S THE WXMAN ANIMALS THAT ARE STRONGER THAN THE MALES progressive signaling things.
>>98008637Silverquill and Prismari are male, the others are female
>>98008615Looks pretty conventionally draconic to me. I mean he's not a weird noodle monkey like Bolas.
>>98008642Etali is a boy
>>98008653This and Stifle get better every set because of the plethora of ETBs and increasing amounts of counterspell protection.
>>98008678Three just feels so slow
>>98008640>using a battle unironically
>>98008668>the two male dragons wear glassesMaybe poor eyesight is like male pattern baldness for Arcavian dragons.
>>98008675Thanks god, and Bethor?
>>98008675>>98008693Etali is female.
>>98008695
>>98007386>Good UBs:Anything with sexy/cute ladies>Borderline:Actual fantasy ips (Conan, Final Fantasy, Zelda, etc)>Bad UBs:Everything else
>>98008693Troon sorry bro
>>980086533 mana for a counterspell that can hit everything is perfectly playable
>>98008711>Anything with sexy/cute ladies
>playing commander with random pod st LGS>guy has one of those "my turns take 15 minutes" decks>he does this once>next time it's his turn, I immediately cointerspell him, thus killing his 15 minute turn bullshit>looks at me like I just murdered his first born>angrily crosses his arms and passesWhat's the deal with people and interaction in edh? Do they expect me to just sit there?
>A third Dan Frazier apology has hit the towers
>>98008719This is actually the proper way to use a they-coded character.
>>98008719Brb, I'm changing the commander to Doran, the siege tower
>>98008730Nobody ever draws her in her al-bhed uniform :^(
>>98008719You're not using your slurs right.
>>98008669The devil is in the details.Prismari has a lot of fins around his design, webbing between his digits, hair that looks like a bundle of tentacles, gills and his face is very round and smouth.It's very aquatic, like you blended together elements of whales and fish to present it as a dragon by giving it 6 limbs including wings.It's missing a lot of the classic hallmarks people associate with dragons. flat snout in place of an elongated one, no horns, no spines, no claws.It's a good design because it's non-traditionao. Compare to Lorehold who looks much more like a stereotypical western dragon.
>>98008359The whole situation was absurd. Even if people could prove wotc added in the photoshop - so what? It's not like anyone currently playing the game would ever stop over something so unimportant. After the price gouging, the official thousand dollar proxies, ub, the black washing, the Pinkertons, the reserve list, etc etc etc, does anyone think a current mtg player would really stop because Maro inserted a copy pasta art image into a card?
>print a new art of vandablast>it features devils>in a goblin deck>the previous art was of a goblin
>>98008780Reddit screeches really hard about it and wotc are true believer seattle libs who care a lot about reddit. Nobody outside of those groups gives a fuck.
>tfw no steppe wife
>>98008808Imagine the smell
>>98008719It's not a they/them because it's a nonbo it's because it's litterally a bunch of niggas
>>98008719>They them becuase they're a bunch of niggasPretty cool, what's the lore on the other Spirit dragons?
>>98008808She looks like she stinks good
>>98008808Why does she have an eyeball on her shoulder?
>>98008808Ward 1 in a cost 4 is shit man, it's almost like no ward at all everyone can pay 1 extra by turn 4
>>98008690That battle makes a bunch of 2/2 white Knight tokens and flips into a planeswalker that makes emblems that give Knights +1/+0 and Ward 1
>>98008808>steppe wife>posts an inuit
>>98008793They do that kinda shit to get more people to buy it like how they split all the bobbleheads amongst the fallout decks even though running just one is kinda useless
>>98008860That makes no sense whatsoever
>>98008640Deck feels like it needs a Corpse Knight
>>98008457Bro?? Your Bitterblossom???>>98008640>Earnest Fellowship>Angel's TrumpetMaking it so you can't protect your shit and playing nonhasted creatures makes you take damage. How smart and not retarded at all.
>>98008860It's a pretty safe bet to assume anything Wotc does is in the name of trying to grab at as many shekles as possible
>>98008756The female form is sexist gotta cover it up as much as possible
>>98008808Guys with prepare creature will she be playable in commander now? In at least bracket 2??
>>98008457Nothing. I have this horrible mental illness problem where I have like three or four deck ideas based around the same general concept and I can't settle on which one to build.
>>98008897If I can play mono green in bracket 4 you can play that on 3 for sure
>>98008890Her uniform doesn't have almost any exposed skin, look at it up close. Same with when she takes it off later in the game, it's tan leather and not actually exposed skin. That's why you can't see her shorts under it or the entire pink shirt she wears.
>>98007293my least fav colors getting the best dual art
>>98008918I need to get a beta underground sea, I have 3 but all of them with the horrid white border
>>98008917You know there's a sequel right?
>>98008869Thank you for reminding me I had these on the side and meant to ask thread about lol>>98008873>Earnest FellowshipI have 2 cards that target my own creatures while they're on the field>Angel's Trumpet Vigilance is cool and even better it makes nonhasted Token decks actually have to slow their roll unless they want the constant self-burn
>>98008941Yeah and that isn't her "Al Bhed uniform", Anon. So it's pretty irrelevant to the point at hand, besides being a MUCH shittier design than her X one. Oh, and the deck clearly takes place during X and not after, considering the inclusion of Sin, Tidus, Seymour, Auron, etc.
>>98008573No the reason is the artist copped to it and his agent explained the situation by reference to the artist experiencing mental difficulties at age 81.No other version of the card has been presented as the real version. You need some basis to justify a conspiracy here and “corporations r bad!!!!!” doesnt cut it.You need to be able to say what happened, how, who was involved, and you cant, whereas I can
>>98008934i like white borders i have a full white border deck
>>98008952"Who was involved"You know everyone involved in making a card? So you work for WotC's PR department?
>>98008959I have spent a lot of money in foils just to avoid white border
>>98008960No but I can say that Dan plagiarized someone else’s work and his agent Mark didn’t seem to know he had done so until later.If you want to say Dan didnt do it, who did?
>>98008952My basis is Wotc has been historically a piece of shit so it's easy to extrapolate that they will be a piece of shit in the future. I know that can be difficult if you lack critical thinking skills or the ability to notice patterns in behavior.
>>98008973>why can't you name the shadow artists who have been modifying and painting over other people's artGod I sure wish I could if they credited them. before you start schizobabbling, look up the actual print of Dan's Mox Japer and compare it to the card. It was digitally enhanced and painted over, details even changed after the fact yet there's no other artist credited. But if he did it himself, well that just throws the ENTIRE autistic theory that he doesn't know how photoshop works enough to draw a yellow circle in the trash, doesn't it?
>>98008978>Wotc has been historically a piece of shit so it's easy to extrapolate a completely fictional version of events that flies against the evidence we do have >I know that can be difficult if you lack critical thinking skillsThe fucking irony
>>98008299Typically with the pitch spells the only one I actually pitch for is Commandeer and even then I try to save it for something game ending. The rest I usually just pay retail. Invasion of Sergovia seems decent, just wasn't sure how good battles are in multiplayer since I usually find people have blockers.>>they've also printed some neat flash noncreatures recently like nowhere to run. you're paying more than their cmc, but asinine antics and final showdown are also very nice in this sort of setup. I think I had stuff like polymorphist's jest and mass diminishI'll have to take a look at those, thanks.All that said, what are some good card advantage engines that are cheap?
>>98007025>go most of my life without seeing this card or anything like it played>make a minwu, white mage deck>suddenly every single person at my store has this, sulfuric vortex, screaming nemesis, or erebos in their deckIt is fine, teaching people that they shouldn't turn somebody's deck off if they can't actually capitalize on it, and telling them that in the absence of an appropriate piece of removal, player removal works just fine has been entertaining.
>>98008457Trees
>>98008989>Just believe liars broWhy are you even simping for this company anyways are you on their payroll or something?
>>98008985Right so your schizo world is that Dan DID produce a real piece of work- except no one has seen itAnd then someone else photoshopped Marta Neal’s work and submitted thatAnd then Dan decided to accept that work as his and admit to plagiarism because…?And his agent publicly announced that Dan is having mental difficulties and didn’t understand what he was doing, because…??And WotC did all of this instead of just announcing that it was a complete accident of a day 0 mock up going to print and creating a world in which no one has to take any blame at all becaaaause….??????>he did it himself, well that just throws the ENTIRE autistic theory that he doesn't know how photoshop works enough to draw a yellow circle in the trash, doesn't it?A toddler could do the edit on that final card.It’s literally cut, flip, smear. Actually drawing digitally from scratch is something that takes years of practice
>>98009002I mean if you are not packing graveyard hate when knowing there will be a player with a graveyard deck then that's on you. Same shit actually.
>>98008947Tribal impact tremors is good especially when you're reanimating consistently, can grind out a lot of life. You've got some token generators too. I'd run it.
>>98009017
>>98009011So youre saying Dan and his agent are liars? Because that’s who I’m believing.Dan says he did it, his agent says Dan did it bevause he’s suffering cognitive decline at 81. Seems pretty reasonable to me without there needing to be some conspiracy in which an innocent party is somehow convinced to publicly admit to plagiarism when there were alternative lies that would prevent anyone from having to take any blame (ie “that’s a super early concept never meant to go to print”)
>>98009007Are those sleeves any good? I've been sitting on the fence about buying this kinda sleeve
>>98009021*impact tremors that fits with your tribeMore what I'm trying to say
>>98009022>they cranked the saturation I’m going insaaaaaane
>>98009041>he didn't look at the imageHow cute and desperate <3
>>98005081nah not at all. on MTGO its a breeze. although crazy effects that make like 100 tokens can crash shittier computersalso I dont really use that many tokens other than stuff like copy artifact, copy land, maybe a construct from Urza's Saga. and pic rel is a core part of my deck. even makes people seethe in b4
>>98009022Do you think the artist designs and finishes the card themselves?>>98009034No those sleeves are garbage he just got them because his girlfriend wanted the deck to "sparkle"
>>98009034No they are not. The backs of them are actually quite good and have grip, but the sparkle shit is very distracting. If you want to be a shitter and troll your table, do it because it's impossible to see from the other side.
>>98009047Concession accepted
>>98009031I'm saying Wotc are liars and they're throwing dan under the bus any other time an artist gets caught doing this kind of thing theyre immediately excommunicated but dan gets a pass? I smell bullshit.
>>98008653never was
>>98008719seems more like it's this kind of situation more than anything else
Mark Rosewater seems quite active in this thread today.
>>98009051>Do you think the artist designs and finishes the card themselves?Woah woah woah, are you saying the art isn't entirely up to the artist and there are OTHER FINGERS IN THE POT??? OH NO>>98009053Okay, schizo, here's the skinny. Shapes are changed from the objects behind the egg to the entire object it's sitting on, look at the front of it you babbling tardlet jotc shill, it's redrawn as a layered platform. He REALLY just didn't know how to use photoshop and got "so frustrated" that he had to plagarize one of the only 2 drawings of the single most iconic piece of gold jewelry in the west that appeared on an existing Magic card? One of those touchup fags probably got orders from on-high that the existing version (that Aronowitz makes clear exists until his VERY suspicious retraction) that was in revisions exists and then suddenly it's an existing art file at WotC flipped and poorly edited? Come on, now. Either Dan knows how to use photoshop and can draw a yellow circle or he can't. This proves he can.Your entire argument is relying on others to know the names of shadow artists and touchup editors and being able to call them out because your brain is so smooth that you can't possibly think one of the most filthy lying corps is a filthy lying corp.
>>98009079So an Ermac situation then
>>98009079Troons are simply completely mentally compromised individuals not daemon. They deserve our pity not our ire.
Nice Magic: the Gathering discussion
>>98009051>>98009052A shame I wanted to get the one with the foily circles that look like old Pokemon cards
>>98009021Makes sense to me, I cut 1 Island and Spectral Rider for both White Orchid Phantom and Corpse Knight. More nonbasic removal (and likely just as hard to block with Flying/First Strike as Intimidate) and Tribal Impact Tremors as you put itThanks for the input, gonna do some playtests since I'm not doing much else lol https://archidekt.com/decks/21487765/knights_honor
>>98009110>Erm WOTCs antics aren't on topic of magic the gathering start shit flinging about proxies or something!Wotc employees actually walk among us
>>98009158Wotc kicked their astroturfing efforts into overdrive with this dan frazier incident. Guess the union stuff put them into damage control mode.
Even reddit and Twitter are done talking about the ring situation guys, it's time to pack it in
Wotc could come out and say all art going forward is ai and people would still slop it up
>goy central is done talking about it guys! Move on COME OOOON!!
>>98009189That doesn't make the individual possessed, that would make the politician possessed. Please keep up.
>>98009158all this virtue signaling about muh artists but at the same time proxying their super special collector art card will never be funny to me
>No definitive proof that Dan fucked up can ever be put forward because schizos don't trust Dan or wotc to tell the true>No definitive proof that wotc fucked up can ever be put forward because Dan is ether dropping on the sword for them and absolving them of guilt or he isn't, in both cases we will never know for certainI cannot wait to hear this conversation on loop in these threads for 8 months if Dan didn't or didn't commit a fucky wucky
>>98008640>all those basicsBased.
>>98008959Nice. I wanted to do the same. Got pretty close a few times with a Selesnia deck, but had to piece it out.
>>98009303Sorry I'm sure this is very disruptive for your threadly argument about proxies fighting over the exact same talking points that have been argued over for years at this point
Man I wish there was a cool Rakdos commander that wasn't super expensive (mana wise not dollars).
>>98009374My brother in christ the color combo is literally named after him
>>98009296>proxyingew
i was at magic con this weekend and Dan Frazier still did his booth for signings on day 3. it was such a blindingly chad move that i'm now fully on his side and no longer care about this "controversy"
>>98009387How do you go from "ancient force of destruction evil incarnate" to "silly cowboy with a bandolier and leather jacket"
My uncle works at Hasbro and said that Dan Frazier taking the fall for wotc saved literally his and everyone else's jobs. That's a hero in my book.
>>98009407Gay retarded theater kids
>>98009421It certainly saves Wotc from getting raped in court from veli nystrom
>>98009122>>98008947>White Orchid PhantomThis card genuinely blows, why would you use it?
>>98009502Lmao
>>98009421
>>98009502>In-tribe>2-drop>ETB effect>Flying and First Strike>2/2>Nonbasic hate>>>genuinely blows?????
>>98009407>>98009433It's even more insulting that this gay ass version of rakdos is one of the best commanders in the game
>>98009407Bad example. Rakdos was always a goofy ahh guy primarily motivated by being entertained, not being a super serious evil demon.If it makes sense for anyone to ignore his day job to go larp and kill people in the wild west, it's Rakdos
>>98009516>>98009512>let the green player tutor up more forestsLmao
>>98009534>Rakdos was always a goofy ahh guy primarily motivated by being entertained, not being a super serious evil demonimagine denying this much flanderization
>>98009545Let me guess, you think Path is bad?
>>98009554Path exiles and doesn't put a land into the graveyard for the player with guaranteed land recursion. Who the fuck isn't running Crucible anymore?
>>98009523What
>>98009547>no dude look how evil he looks on this book cover!! there's no way he could be anything but the stereotypical demon!!!
>>98009534you werent even playing this game when the first ravnica came around. he doesnt have a day job the only reason the cult of rakdos exists is to keep him from going on a rampage out of boredom. the only reason hes was in the guildpact was to keep him from raping the plane
>>98009628And he later goes to Thunder Junction because he was bored and it sounds like fun. Seems consistent to me.
>>98009172Well it's a good thing he went to the wacky cowboy plane thus solving that problem.
>>98009637How the fuck did I end up replying to that instead of >>98009628
>>98009634you think a dood like that wants to put on a cowboy cosplay and play nice with a bunch of randos? who the fuck even made his costume did he stop by the big and tall as a building shop across the saloon? youre not talking about a silly guy that just wants to have fun its a fucking demon look at the shit the cult does to keep him busy and tell me you want that running loose
WRB or RBG for energy memes?[Spoiler]Or WRBG [/Spoiler]
>>98009577>he can't be assed to read the mtg wikiyou're not even trying at all
>>98009727Sure did. Here are the major beats of his history.>dastardly Simic plot is hatched to murder Rakdos, fails>naps>Wakes up and helps against Bolas, first grudgingly then directly by letting Gideon ride him into battle>directs his followers to heal the scars of war in the people's hearts by entertaining them>naps>wakes up to fight Phyrexia>naps>while napping, plots to overthrow him/frame him for murders fail just by the fact that he's napping, doesn't even need to wake up to defend himself>wakes up, is bored as shit by his own cult but chooses not to go on a rampage>offered a fun time in thunder junction, goes, has funWhere's the cutoff of flanderizarion? Seems like he was always a pretty chill guy despite his fearsome rep
>>98008756I wonder if we can convince Maro to make a full art character card for her in her Al Bhed outfit for the next ff set if we tell him our kids are dying of cancer and their last wish is to see a piece of ass in her skin tight wet suit.
The only way you'll ever be happy with MtG writing is if you just look at some of the cards with the character and make up your own headcanon about them. That's why so many people think blocks made good stories when in reality it's because nobody was reading the actual stories back then.
>>98008808>UGx>do thing, get +1/+1 counters and drawYour wife is lame sorry dude.
>>98009556Anyone not running GY hate to handle that in the current state of the game gets their just desserts. If you don't have GY hate you're never going to beat a green lands deck anyway, 2 drop knight or not.
>>98009755bait used the be believable
>>98009755>Where's the cutoff of flanderizarion?when your big bad demon (big bad enough that izolda wants to mind control him) starts from>"Rakdos embodies hedonism and is known for his capricious cruelty and megalomania. Older than the Guildpact itself, Rakdos is an ancient, powerful, and evil demon who personifies the chaotic fury of red mana and the death and defilement of black."into>is now gallivanting in thunder junction as a cowboy
>>98009776>The only way you'll ever be happy with MtG writing is if you just look at some of the cards with the character and make up your own headcanon about them.or just have wotc replace the shitty writing and characters with much better IP because UW is not worth defending
>>98008197>>98008227Thanks, how much would it cost to build a deck out of red blue goad cards?
>>98009894There's some pretty cheap goad cards in red so I don't imagine the whole deck would cost a whole lot
>>98009978>>98009978>>98009978NEW
>>98009776Fantasyslop writing can't be good anymore, period. It's overdone, just the same special snowflake rainbow squad capeshit fighting their way through some woods or a castle to stop some fantasy Hitler insert. We've had a quarter century of this banal shit already, no one cares anymore. Trying to write fantasy plots is a waste of time, Magic would be infinitely more interesting with zero plot besides vague allusions in flavor text on the cards and a brief and vague paragraph about the plane/block on the back of the booster box.
