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>>98003756Just give a list modifier where you switch intercessors with something else to be your battleline unit.Intercessors for:Infernus/Phobos/anything not gravis or 2+ saves. Maybe with a negative such as losing the part of special rules as if you were dark angels or something.
Let Choas idols take this thread!
>>98003756>Suggest a new subfaction that explores an underused element or specialisation of the faction of choiceliterally anything that would make tactical marines usable
>>98003756>Suggest a new subfaction that explores an underused element or specialisation of the faction of choiceWhy not more strains of abhumans for Votann? Sure, Dwarf bodies that are smaller targets yet stronger pound-for-pound is nice but they already have specially modified crystalline skin offshoots. What about Ratlings and more? If there are no wolves on Fenris, can beast-like abhumans with enhanced smell or other senses be useful or do they use robots for that?
>>98003780But anon, Tactical Marines have an important role as human meatshields for tanks.
>>98003780Firestorm detachment gives you assault to your guns and +1str within 12" when they often can run dual melta. Triple melta if you include a pistol inside 6" and disembarking from a transport. Which is their whole shtick. Rhino plopping and then abuse the strategems for it.You can fucking split the squads and get 12 rhinos.
>>98003783Don't lump my space dwarfs with your gross furry shit.
Going to make a big push to finish* the titan by the end of the weekend
>>98003783They already have doggys. Moving on.
>>98003756
>>98003756>>thread question:Naturalised nidsNo termagants, barbgaunts, biovores, pyrovores, exocrinesNo guns or swords on carnifex, tyrants, warriors and guards Tyrannofex can only equip fleshborer hives, tervigons can only spawn hormagauntsGargoyles and harpies can replace guns for talonsSporocysts and tyrannocytes do not use their ring of guns No zoanthropes, neurotyrant, maleceptors, stealers or broodlord eitherNatural camo colour schemes and they get to cover the table in alien jungles before the game
>>98003756Just import more Chaos from WHFB or AoS.
>>98003756>TQMandrakes get expanded out into various shadow creatures that fill some of the gaps that Dark Eldar don't have access to anymore like a pseudo-psyker (shadeweaver), swarm unit (shadow ghouls), assassin (mirrorwalker), lone operative (dark prince/butcher), and indirect attacker (balefire warlocks).
>>98003756>TQEnslavers.
>>98003812unironically reverse primal zerg at home moment i still like it
Building Noise Marines last night and this morning. I noticed they’re designed, and the instructions are ordered, to promote the way people like to sub-assemble. The instructions start with you building the power packs, and then the weapons, that have both arms fitted into them perfectly, before moving on to building torsos and heads. Kinda neat, wonder if that’s the future for infantry that have weapons across their chest. The mold lines are crazy on these though.
>>98003756Chaos Xenos
>>98003834Tzaangors and beastmen exist. Can pretend the tanks are full of them if you wanted to.
>>98003756>TQTraitor GuardRemove their battle line thing from Chaos Cult and leave that detachment to be AC/DC spam.Release upgrade sprues for Kasrkin, and maybe some guard vehicles and let people add them. Maybe one more traitor guard character and a mutated guard unit like ascended cultists, but shooty.
>>98003836beastmen aren't aliens
>>98003756>tqsquat guard
>>98003756>TQImperial explorators, using a mix of GSC, Inq and Mechanicus bits
>>98003821>grab tyranid spores>paint them brainy>rest of the army is mind controlled troops from any faction
where 11th
Should I buy a 2nd baneblade? Or get a printed one to have some variation in tank designs? (I would purchase it on Etsy, so prices are most likely 80€+ too - so it being cheaper is not that much of a concern).
>>98003912>Should I buy a 2nd baneblade?no
>>98003756I would rather they get a Codex but i wouldnt be against more grot units, a grot character, more grot vehicles and a real effort giving them an identity besides "ork lackies" inside the greenskinz army
>>98003844Literally just make it an ally detachment where you can bring 1000 points of any non-epic hero guard you want
>>98003921
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/p9kg7edm/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-astra-militarum/Guard up early
>>98003944Fuck imagine, James move your ass.Is time for a small revolution!
>>98003945>Come back tomorrow as we face down another monstrous xenos threat that knows only slaughter and the gathering of tasty, tasty biomass: the Tyranids.Neat
VGHI keep getting one-shotted by pages like this. Man what are we even doing these days it's miserable in comparison. What are you all doing.
what happened to the scout squad? Did they get rid of it or the Kill Team box? Is there no way to get the old scouts anymore?
>>98003945were the Ogryns playing fucking Kill Team with Commisar before the delves attacked?
>>98003969No, the commissar was playing with the 2 wracks on the left, ogryns just watchedthen the homunculus came to pick up the lost kids
>>98003902Hiding in June still
>>98003814We're not doing Space Skaven. That's not happening.
>>98003945>This detachment has the RECON tag and cannot be taken with another RECON detachment.Neat to see that they're future-proofing these combo-detachment things from the get-go. Imagine what this would've been like combined with Recon Element.>Benefit from Cover all the time>+ the ability to make it easier to detect hidden unitsKinda nutty in a way.
>>98003956M8 back the day even Harlequins could have landraiders. Honestly If thereever is an old hammher or vehicle collage I AM doing that beauty.
why is this the only chainsaw that looks like a chainsaw in 40k?
>>98003945>upgrade>comissar unit onlyisn't that contradictory
>>98003936At that point what different is it from just playing with guard rules and kitbashing all your guard units as traitors. I’d rather them all have CSM data sheets and be able to dark pact.
Listening to Devastation of Baal right and so far it’s quite enjoyable but I especially like the moments with Seth so far. I know there some stories focused on him, are they any good?
>>98004032because all the others are chainSWORDS
>>98004038No.
Is it normal for bald people to be unable to take over their planet so they wait for daddy to show up?
Best SoB order?Which one also has the best fluff?
>>98004057Vulkan tried his best.
With how many years in advances are edition and new miniatures being made before their releases?
>>98004057You are bald and unable to look the female cashier in the eyes when you visit McDonalds for your daily mcnuggets lunch, so yeah the answer to your inane question is yes.
>>98004057What’s your Norwood Stage, and the Faction you play?
>>98004063Holy mother of ESL
>>98004063They started on 11th when 10th released.
>>98004069But anon, I wish I could pull off a bald look well. I have too much hair for that. If I ever lost my hair, I'm doing arrows like an airbender.
>>98004063apparently 3 years
>>98004057>unableno, they're perfectly able, it's just not their goalif they're unable to do something is to keep the planet once they've won it over, because eventually the imperium would respond to the rebellion and the cult wouldn't have an empire to support any given planet's defence from retaliation but the estimates of the genestealers infestations are potentially lowballing the real numbers, so if they all rose at once they might even manage to build a sizable empire overnight and that's what I think tiamet is planning
Guard day today, Tyranids tomorrow >>98003945
>>98004037While I wouldn't mind another CSM specific traitor guard datasheet or two, actually making bespoke datasheets for a critical mass of Guard units seems like a lot of fairly pointless admin when the detachment rule could just be>"Any ASTRA MILITARUM units in your army lose the Voice of Command rule and again the Dark Pacts rule"
any chance for cool new tau detachments focusing on non-battlesuit infantry?
Why didn't you fags tell me about Harlequins? This shit is awesome
>>98004105How much do you like Kroot?
>>98004109The elf clowns are very based but hard to paint.
>>98004119delightful
>>98004119too cringe
>>98004128I can just about manage to paint in the lines and use at least THREE separate colours, am I ready?
How would you have PD forces and militias working in the main 40k game without being copy of the guard or GS?Considering how important they are in the general lore, I'm surprised there's really not much done with them. even if it be as neutral NPCs controlled by a game master or special rules
>>98004119>that addressHoly shit, is this THE games workshop?
>>98004103GW will never do this, or any flavor of "renegade / bad boys detachment" in an imperial codex
>>98004138just use the npc rules from armageddon
>>98004145No obviously it would be a CSM detachment where you get to bring 1000 points of guard along with your Chaos units.It'd basically be the same as the Brood Brothers detachment from GSC.
>>98004136If you are patient and willing to spend a lot of time correcting mistakes then yeah. It's a lot more about dedication and persistence than actual talent. Like many things, in truth.
>>98004138>even if it be as neutral NPCs controlled by a game master or special rulesFar too fun for tourneyfag competitive focused 40k, plus it crosses streams on model lines which GW accounting hates.
>>98004136Depends on how much you like checkerboards and stripes, if you like those then you can do it, anon.
>>98004111Not as much as fire warrior
Anyone else notice that Yarrick got super nerfed before even going up for sale?
>>98004176>flames of nemesisoh that's awesome, i wonder if it played into legion of the damned getting more fleshed out as well as the fire hawks chapter tactic.
>>98004119I don’t know what I love most about this diorama>ork walking his giant hair squig>squat showing orks his collection of ork heads>lead ork looking completely confused as to why this stuntie is confronting him>ork jumping back as his friend is ripped to pieces by the machine gun>marine having to squat down to fit in the squat made corridorsyou don’t see white dwarfs like this anymore. absolutely beautiful.
>>98004179good
>>98004179bad!
>>98004141Its a mosque now
>>98003921>aos takes gits from whfb>makes them their own faction together with squigs and trolls>gives them updated and new sculpts>becomes one of the most popular armies in the game despite dogshit rules for every editionThe zoomers yearn for the gretchin revolutionary committee JamesYou know you want to
>>98004179Good. Per nerf Yarrick was the single strongest model they ever dropped a datasheet for
>>98003780Usable? We're lucky if they still exist.
>>98004070Norwood 3 with Alpha Legion CSM and Sister of Battle. I'm almost 35 so I've accepted I'm gonna be George Costanza by my 40s
>>98003787>You can fucking split the squads and get 12 rhinosNo because dedicated transports aren't an upgrade anymore but their own unit so they are subject to the rule of three. In 11th you can only get 3 rhinos as they removed the rule that said transports can double up like battleline.
>>98004138The main differences between the organisation of the imperial guard regiments and the organisation of a planetary defence force is that the former has extremely standardized wargear and the regiments are all extremely specialised (ie all infantry, or all tanks, combined arms are a result of deployment and not organisation and are often frowned upon to prevent coordinated and self sufficient rebellions).Planetary defence forces wouldn't be too different in terms of training and wargear but would most probably not have the entire spectrum of the imperium's industrial production and instead focus a lot on what the planet can locally create, with some potential quirks depending on the world we're talking about.Planetary defence forces would also probably make a way larger use of solid ammunitions over laser guns because the latter gained prominence in the imperial army thanks to their practicality in prolonged deployments away from constant supply lines, while PDFs would benefit from the planet's infrastructure directly, and they would also benefit from the planet's own naval, aerial and terrestrial "fleets", as well as their static defenses.So, if I had to suggest a way to represent the pdf forces I'd focus on autoguns and stubguns, fortresses and bunkers, and the placement of said fortresses and troops all over the table, not just the deployment zone, to represent them "playing at home" and having the planet's infrastructures in helping them be everywhere.then it would be a matter of depicting the various types of worlds like hive-, industrial-, feral-, and 'feudal' worlds, which could suggest unit types for the loveliest of the low of the planet militias, being little more than farmers, pilgrims, savages or criminals handed a gun and then the more professionally trained troops being very much akin to the normal imperial guardsmen, but, again, with autoguns, but also with heavy weapons and vehicle support as standard, but little to no special weapons
HOW DID DEFILERS DODGE A NERF
Any body hev pdf of the new Eye of terror:Reign of iron book?
>>98004226The problem with the concept of PDF armies is that they could only EVER fight on the single world they come from.Even genecults have excuses and justifications for moving around or having disseminated sleeper forces in numerous places, meanwhile if you create an army for planet XYZ, each and every one of your games with them are implied to be happening on planet XYZ, nowhere else.You're limiting massively the narrative options, while if you standardise the PDF forces so that the same group of units effectively represents the pdf of any planet, then you're still limited in the kind of games you can have because they must still be happening on an imperial world, and you're probably not going to be satisfied anyway because you jump from the dissatisfaction with the standardisation of the guard with a dissatisfaction with another forced standard.
Remember when you could buy a rulebook and a codex and you knew you had the right rules to play
>>98004239GW wants to sell them
>>98004245Yeah but it was also the time when once your army got shit rules, that was your lot until next edition
>>98004239gotta sell the new overpriced kit
Which option? A or B?I don't care about friends. I don't have them anyway.
>>98004203It's a convenience store.
>>98004256So nothing has changed.
>>98004239new rules will nerf them a bit
>>98004256Getting a shit codex is a curse that lasts years even now still
>>98004239>HOW DID DEFILERS DODGE A NERFIt's what we always suspected. GW intentionally unbalances the game to sell models.
>>98004267Knights are already a boring army to play and play against, don't make it worse by slashing your variety
>>98004245Anon back in 1999 we had WD doing rules errata and points adjustments every month, with those changes being compiled in a book yearly.
>>98004267>I don't care about friends.>I don't have them anyway.then if you're not going to play you might as well get A for a variety to paint
They will go and live with my lasgun sergeants
>>98004272>>98004266>decide to actually look at the defilers price>do an actual spit take upon seeing itWhat the fuck isn't this thing only the size of a dreadnought how the fuck is it such a high price!?!
>>98004276Are they really that more boring that say Custodes or some kind of tank spam IG?>>98004282I am going to play. I'll just go to local tournaments, they have one each week in my LGS and 20-30 participate.Why is A bad? Is the big knight that bad?
>>98004296He's almost Knight sized and has a lot of weapons and options making the kit big.
>>98004292>AoS>The source of everything wrong with modern 40k>The real game
>2013>plague at the flgs is IG players who do nothing but spout decade old memes and complain about their dollar store proxies with random bits glued on top then covered in mud texture aren't really accepted at an official GW store>2026>plague at the flgs is IG players who do nothing but spout decade old memes and complain about their dollar store proxies with random bits glued on top then covered in mud texture aren't really accepted at an official GW storeSome things really never change huh
>>98004292>tfw gonna have 3 different grot sculpt squads soon
>>98004298>Are they really that more boring that say Custodes or some kind of tank spam IG?yes
>>98004296>isn't this thing only the size of a dreadnoughtIt's really not
>>98004292how do i upvote this post?
>>98004317Redemptors are oversized piles of garbage that aren't representative of dreadnought equivalents across armies.
>>98004138It's weird how I absolutely hated these guys compared to Oldcromunda KINO when I first saw them, but now I think they look great. Have they grown on me? Have my standards just dropped? Do I have a brain tumor?
>>98004316Why?
>>98004020>>98003956>>98004216>all those Land Raiders
>>98004296>how the fuck is it such a high price!?!steady price hikes and half a sprue wasted on tactical rocks and redundant bits with barely any real aesthetic difference
>>98004324My apologies, let me compare him to a regular dreadnought, surely they're closer in sizeRetard
>>98004310>>AoS>>The source of everything wrong with modern 40kaos is only bad because gw wanted to turn fantasy into 40k.you're looking at the metastasised cancer and thinking that's the source of the cancer.
>>98004336I'm not the one saying they are dreadnought sized I'm saying redemptors aren't representative of dreadnoughts either.
>>98004317>>98004296>>98004304
>>98004296Even the old Defiler wasn't the size of a dread, are you retarded?
>>98004338>dreadnoughts aren't representative of dreadnoughts
>massively nerf Yarrick>leave space marines with Eldar++ transport tricksOf course, can't have marines lose.
>>98004337That would be true for the removal of rank and file but every bad change made to 40k since 8th was done first in AoS.
I love banners
>>98004324>Redemptors are oversizedThey are as big as dreadnoughts should be.
>>98004346That'd because guard deserve less
>>98004344Yes the dreadnought bigger than leviathans are not representative of the normal size of dreadnought equivalents across all the factions.
>>98004326they're even more of a stat check and make for even more binary win/lose games
>>98004348Kind of an odd name for a Terminator Captain.
>>98004347only because aos was a testbed for 40k, ultimately it was from and for 40k
>>98004349Not by any metric.
>>98004346Yarrick was better than armoured speartip
>>98004354They are when they're the only chassis of dreadnought released for nearly a decade across all factions
>>98004364No he was not lmao.
>>98004363Yes, by every metric.
>>98004243Couldn't it be explained easily though? Like, "One world is having issue and their army got demolished, so they are calling to another ally world for backup as the imperium forces are taking too long"As far as I know, nothing is stopping governors to send some soldiers to other places than their own planets, imperium doesn't give a damn as long the taxes are paid.
You really think GW would do that? Preview extremely strong rules that make a hot new (expensive) unit a must-buy if you have any interest in the competitive game, then nerf it into oblivion after pre-orders BEFORE its actual release?You really distrust them that much?
>>98004310>trusting that the goblin fuck in AoS is a reliable narratorthis explains why there are so many lore arguments here.
>>98004375Yes he was? He had either opponent's movement phase charge or full BS free overwatch that comboed with Overwatch, so any attempt to contest him in the midboard meant he either just blows you up or gums you down with guard
>RG are searching local system for a lost geneseed-related tech to rekindle the raptor project>local GSC got their hands on it and use it to experiment on their own troops>AdMech have sent an exploratory clade to secure this holy knowledgeAnons, I’m trying to build a sort of micro campaign setting for my factions. Still working on the details, but you see any glaring issues with this premise?
>>98004372Sentinels got updated. Broadsides, deff dreads and wraithlords don't need updates.
An abhuman detachment sounds fun, but you'd really want some kind of abhumans you could field as line troops like nightsiders, felinids or beastmen to make it feel right thematically.
>>98004389Dreads and Wraithlords will still get them, they're both within that range GW clearly considers everything preceding NEEDS eventual redoingBroadside is 6th or 7th ed so it might be safe
It's really fucking weird how they said they would launch with 70 detachments, and most current detachments would be 3-point ones, but everything previewed looks like a 1- or 2-point detachment that only affects a few unit types. 70 isn't going to be enough.
>>98004408the 4-8 or so per codex, plus some for grotmas/balance updates, will make it enough at the end of the edition.
>>98004379planets don't have fleets, the imperium has fleets, and they move around the imperial armies, not the planetary defence forcesyou would need to headcanon the existence of fleets that aren't in the hand of the navy, which is a huge can of worms in itself, or a state of extraordinary militias mobilisations where the imperium effectively drafts the entirety of the pdf into the imperial army, but then you lose on the justifications for the highlighted differences in the way the troops are deployed and equipped and if you tell a world the imperium is taking away their defence troops regardless or the tithe they already pay, chances are the world will try a secession from the imperium instead of remaining completely defenceless to outside threatsyou can't have the cake and eat it too, unless we're talking about very small exceptions in the grand scheme of things, like a system of multiple planets but only one with a significant population so the other planets are defended by forces that have to be moved from the populous world, or planetary fleets that are stuck with sublight, non-warp, non-nabigators methods of travel.and at the end of the day this is all to support a few unit types that might as well be part of the imperial guard as normal, with their special rules or equipment or organisation justified by something else instead by being pdf.
>>98004392I'll give you beastmen but bringing up that other shit that barely gets a mention to make it 'feel right thematically' is a joke.
>>98004380happened with votann
>>98004442well votann are a joke and got what they deserved
>>98004453They deserved the necromunda squat units added to the roster
>>98004389Sentinels aren't dreadnoughts
>>98004408im just waiting to see what they do with the main detachments and how much they will gut them (war horde, etc). it looks like they fucked with taktikal brigade a little too hard so im expecting the rest of the ork detachments to suffer the same fate
>>98004458>60mm base walker with a heavy weapon or twoIt's a dread equivalent.
>>98004179Definitely a good thing, the counterstrategist ability was just too powerful in its original form. It's still plenty good, free overwatch, reactive or surge move are all good things to have, but now it's not absurdly broken. The old version could lead to all manner of insane shit, like 15 scions rapid ingressing and shooting.
>>98004255>>98004266But they're out of stock everywhere, GW has already sold every single fucking one of their defilers.
>>98004456only wait a millenium or two and squats will be the only ones left as they have a working reproductive system over their Core kin just scratching their non-existent beards into oblivion wondering if they should attempt fixing the votann
>>98004404I wouldn't be so sure. I can count on one hand the times they've updated a vehicle. Land raiders are pushing 30 and falcons and leman russes are already over that.
>>98004085That means Genestealers are more successful than some Primarchs.
>>98004468R3TVRN
I'm guessing it's the deathwatch captain who pick more experienced squads who have been indoctrinated in the death watch's radical stance of using xenos tech to actually use said xeno tech, and not have greenhorn black templar guy suddenly find himself with squad members openly wielding heretical shit when he thought he was going on a normal field trip to kill some ayy?
Kek only took them an entire month
Can they put attacks and bs/ws back in the model and not the weapon? It wasn't funny the first time and 3 more years of that shit sounds like ass.
>cant even replace shoulder pads on the new marines without extensive cutting Well there goes my death watch plans. Probably for the better.
>>98004551what happens in the deathwatch stays in the deathwatch
>>98004568It makes the most sense this way now they so often like to add models with varying attack modes
>>98004614Not really, this only makes coherency and modularity of statlines impossible. They did varying attack modes just fine in 9th.
>>98004292Grots>Orks.
>>98004613cute
>>98004613soul
>>98004468is this what they call sovl?
>>98004613Why you can't see this kind of hobbyists anymore?
>>98004613momcore
ODST for drop pods and Clone LAATs for stromraven/storm eagles have broken my mind and it pains me that neither are really viable on the tabletop.
Nightlord trilogy omnibus spoilers ahead: The fuck, the entire point of that child was for him not to become a space marine and for someone to escape that miserable orbit in an otherwise completely hopeless story. I know they said Varial would "one day find him" but like, did that really need to be confirmed? Could that not be left open? This is just grimdark to retaded levels and some fanwank to have a guy who you can have memberberries with of first claw by him having all their gear for some reason I must have missed this in some appendices or something. I don't like it. Bad ADB, bad.
>>98004671so elysians just suck in tabletop? do they even have detachments for drop pod shit in guard?
>>98004673>Bad ADB, badwhy are you surprised?
>>98004685Elysians haven't existed ruleswise for a decade.
>>98004673From what I recall, it's all meant to be a jab at the Eldar. They came to kill a particular person believing them to be major, except they actually led to the 'creation' of that person who then became the major threat. It's essentially showing that the Night Lords have superior powers of prophecy than the Eldar, and are now hunting down Ulthwe.
>>98004661We do have some in this general though
>>98004724Why does ADB hate Eldar?
>>98004704There are a few elysian legends units thoughbeit.
>>98004685>>98004704>warhawks>elysianGW should capitalize on Helldivers' popularity by making SM drop pods good and giving us a regiment or scion airborne box.
>>98004754What baffles me is that they just updated the kit and it's still unviable on the tabletop. You'd think they would want to push it with at the very least decent rules but no.
>>98004754But anon, if they wanted to capitalize on MGSV's popularity, why don't they give Alpharius/Omegon a horn and robot arm?
>>98004724>It's essentially showing that the Night Lords have superior powers of prophecy than the EldarOK, but that's retarded.
>>98004777
>>98004783
MTO vostroyanshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gpaqpfb5/the-vostroyan-firstborn-return-for-a-made-to-order-muster/
>>98004764you can't make them viable without breaking the game. they enable alpha strikes and making them viable would probably mean ignoring the must setup 9" away clause. you would probably have to limit it to one an army to keep it in check but its obvious you guys want half or more of your army dropping in (and I don't blame you because its very thematic)
>>98004790These look very old
>>98004790Cool, models you can't use thanks to the stupid way Guard is designed currently
>>98004790>inb4 everyone on 40kg who was screeching for the return of the vostroyans suddenly declare they refuse to buy a platoon for $300 and that they will get 3D prints and chinese/russian recasts instead
>>98004736lol get krak grenade'd and dn stomped on idiot, also your visions aren't even correct lmao
>>98004801You play with your overweight stinky friends in a garage. I don't think it'll change anything if you declare these models will be using the krieg or cadian datasheet at the beginning of the game
>>98004809I literally never liked the models, worst examples of middlehammer. They should always just have been Mordians.
>>980040701, and nids. Im also 43 and not grey at all. I dont have much going for me, but I got solid hair genetics.
>>98004776We already have assasins in snake's tights and imperial knights/Tau riptide for metal gears. You ask for too much , anon. an AL story leaning on the absurd with Kojima's schizo triplecross antics would be fun
>>98004801What are you talking about, you just play them with Cadian rules.
>>98004816>>98004840Shouldn't have to do that, it's absurd they are the only army that works like this now
>>98004613these were in one of the Boltgun levels iirc. sovl
>>98004783>May these heroes return one dayKEK, spoiler: They don't
>>98004663I still have a bunch of terrain I made with my mum for LotR SBG since the old magazine was my intro to mini gaming.
>>98004790When they will update them?
>>98004866Same time they do Steel Legion
>>98004724Decimus became a cool space pirate, having excellent pilot skills like his father until he was bought out by weak fringe imperial forces in exchange for him stopping his piracy like Captain Morgan being given governorship of Jaiamica, abut instead he was given a plot of land on a paradise world and he settled down there and enjoyed the rest of his life in peace.Fuck him being owed the night lords, fuck him being a tool used in some grudge to get a one up on some space elves. I don't accept it.
>>98004736>>98004782The central point of Eldar is that they're a doomed race flailing about in their death throes, incapable accepting or even realizing the truth that they will never be a truly significant power in the galaxy again. Their prophecies are always wrong or backwards because they refuse to face the reality that they no longer matter, and their attempts to stop the proverbial bleeding of their race only work to open up the wounds even further and destroy them faster.They have essentially lost the galactic mandate of heaven, which now (for better or worse) has been taken up by Humanity who now still fights to determine how that mandate should be utilized; either for the Emperor or for Chaos.
>>98004840B-but the words on the paper don’t match the words on the box! What are you, some model agnostic loser that plays OPR?
>>98004866So that guard players can complain how the hats are styled differently?
>>98004883>The central point of Eldar is that they're a doomed race flailing about in their death throes, incapable accepting or even realizing the truth that they will never be a truly significant power in the galaxy again.Literally no part of the Eldar race outside of the Ynnari is attempting to become a significant power in the galaxy. You have completely misunderstood the nature of the faction and, even if we took your own logic, humanity would also have lost the galactic mandate of heaven in the heresy.
>>98004895>Literally no part of the Eldar race outside of the Ynnari is attempting to become a significant power in the galaxyBiel Tan.Also the Rhana Dandra cope.
>>98004883>They have essentially lost the galactic mandate of heaven, which now (for better or worse) has been taken up by HumanityThat's my my headcanon>>98002351
>>98004736>Why does GW hate Eldar? Ftfy But this is just how Eldar are treated in every story in general. Remember when GW retconned Wraithbone from magic warp rocks that needed to be sung into existance to just space minerals? Or how the Eldar are stuck with that gigafag Mike Brooks? The Ynnari was an attempt for GW to make Eldar relevant and they got fumbled so badly that GW has been trying to pretend they never happened. Corsairs are their most recent attempt and they're even more uninteresting then Ynnari.
>>98004724>that spoilerWow, that's fucking retarded
>>98004160I love the concept but no, they would also not do that
>>98004796A full drop pod army is gonna be impossible, they haven't allowed full reserve armies for a long time but one or two pods should be a viable strategy. Letting the unit disembark within 9" would probably be enough, perhaps with a nerf to charges or no charging at all. Beyond that, I think the new terrain rules and missions will see pods become a lot more useful to get first turn hold of objectives.
>>98004736>>98004910>Why does Tolkien hate the elves? They're just slowly withering away and leaving the world and not winning? Wtf?This is you.
>>98004883>The central point of Eldar is that they're a doomed raceBeing a dying race, doesn't you mean you act like a complete fucking clueless and careless retard.In fact, you'd do the opposite to maximize your damn survival for as long as possible.
>>98004918It makes sense.Prophecies require using the Warp, which is the domain if Chaos. Who's going to get clearer prophecies; the faction vehemently against Chaos, or the on that at least indirectly furthers the goals of Chaos?
>>98004850You’re right, there should be 300 data sheets for Imperial Guard Infantry that all have identical lasgun stats and the codex should be the size of a pulpit folio.
>>98004790>>98004866only if you show enough monetary support NOW :^)
>>98004940You do know Regimental Doctrines was a thing and did not need a zillion datasheets to work.
>>98004940What if they just took it back to third edition where they printed a list of like 30 traits for guard and you could choose and match 2 or 3 to produce your distinctive guard regiment. What if they did the same for space marines. What if chaos space marines got to select a veteran ability of your choosing to represent their milleania of service. What if we just played 3rd edition again.
>>98004809Why is it supposed to be unreasonable that people aren't willing to pay GW's scalper tier prices
>>98004904>1 damn craftworld out of THOUSANDS in existance>within ONE (1) faction of eldar>nevermind that Biel-Tan is fucking dead anywayYeah, eldar are totally vying for fucking galactic dominance, yes.
>>98004905The Tau are clearly the current holders of the Galactic Mandate of Heaven.
>>98004931I don't knwo tabletop but i'm going to give my uninformed opinion anyway. They should make it so that dropping near or behind the enemy means some of the drop pods are fired upon by AA so you take penalties or start damaged on some of them if you drop too many, where as if you drop far away from the enemy you get some initiative bonus or other. This way you can drop an entire army in, some behind enemy lines, some at the start and still have it mean something.
>>98004910>Remember when GW retconned Wraithbone from magic warp rocks that needed to be sung into existance to just space minerals?I don't remember this, but why would you ever do this? It doesn't make any difference to the setting but is just actively more boring.
>>980049503rd editions army rules with 4th editions rules is in my opinion the best combination.Is in fact the only way my group still plays 40k.Sadly we still have to wrangle back some retards that have FOMO addiction whenever something new drops
>>98004962>>1 damn craftworld out of THOUSANDS in existancepretty sure gw themselves struggle to name more than 4
>>98004936Wow, that's even more fucking retarded.
>>98004964The main problem with oods currently is that they need to drop 12" away from enemy units so there's no physical space on the table to drop them, much less behind enemy lines. 9" would help them a lot without making them OP.
>>98004971It’s sort of halfway like that now. They use the warp to sing material space into wraithbone, but they need unmolested material space, so maiden worlds are like a resource for that. They can still make wraithbone in the webway, but it’s slower and less efficient.
>>98004935>Being a dying race, doesn't you mean you act like a complete fucking clueless and careless retard.It kinda does. If someone hits you in the head with a rock really hard but it doesn't kill you, odds are you're going to just stumble away to get as far from the threat as you can. You're not going to think clearly or formulate a proper plan, you're injured and panicked and probably dying to trauma. Hell you're probably in shock, potentially brain damaged.Eldar pretending to be haughty and sophisticated is just them trying to tell themselves "It's not so bad, it'll be okay" even as they stumble around blindly to run away from danger.
>>98004933>comparing chad Tolkien elves that chose to leave the corrupted world of morals to live in a forever paradise To>Eldar who are a dying species that will inevitably die out and be ultra tortured forever by gooner Satan because they were murder raping everything out of boredomDon't compare based Tolkien elfGODs to giga jobber Eldar.
>ADB is literally in the thread
>>98004986I thought one of the main fantasies of SM drop pods was to squash units with them on insertion, the fuck you can't do that on tt?
>>98004736Most of the perceived eldar hate from gw is actually just imperial fanboys with a hateboner for eldar blowing things out of proportion because their only involvement with warhammer is validation from power scaling arguments and the same kicks from humiliation "porn" asians get on social media.
>>98005002Because the point of pods has always been to drop infantry to the surface bypassing anti air defenses, not literally hitting stuff with the pod itself.
>>98004998If you see this make sure that owlcat makes it so that DH night lords talk plenty of nostraman Aaron, thanks. Love your work.
>>98004855do we see them getting servitorised?
>>98004971>I don't remember thisIirc it was either "revealed" (retconned) in the 10th edition codex or one of the campaign books or in the 500 worlds End of Edition even thing.>but why would you ever do this?Nowadays the writers and creatives who work at GW are like 3-4 degrees removed from the OG creators who came up with 40k in the first place (Jes, Blanche, Priestly), meaning these new dipshits are just making up shit because they think it's "interesting" when in reality they are just completely missing the point of the faction.Also, it does not help at all that Jes has finally retired from GW, one his collegues said that in a podcast/interview.Someone here probably knows the thing I'm talking about.>It doesn't make any difference to the setting but is just actively more boring.Agreed.It just makes eldar more boring and lamer for no actual gain.
>>98005015Owlcat was pretty good to the Eldar in RT.
>>98005011Buddy, they made the signature Eldar trilogy be about how a major Crafyworld got its ass kicked by a minor Imperial strike force and that ot only survived by LITERALLY begging the Marines for mercy.
>>98004998If he is then, ADB please stop allowing smurf propaganda in every new "important" campaign story. Calgar doesn't need a model refresh.
>all that complaining abaut storiesALRIGHT ANONS AS A GW REPRESENTATIVE I CHALLANGE THEE TO MAKE BETTER PLOTS FOR OUR BOOKS START NOW.
>>98005023>Owlcat was pretty good to the Eldar in RT.It wasn't, but it's funny watching Yrlietfags desperately try to justify their bad taste.
>>98005021>Nowadays the writers and creatives who work at GW are like 3-4 degrees removed from the OG creators who came up with 40k in the first place (Jes, Blanche, Priestly), meaning these new dipshits are just making up shit because they think it's "interesting" when in reality they are just completely missing the point of the faction.Oh so it's like the "lunatics running the asylum" thing in comic books where recent writers only grew up on the work of earlier writers, not their general exposure to media and influences, and so they essentially just do fanfic where their favourite character is the strongest or where the thing they think is dumb is retconned or where a guy who looks like them becomes the in-universe bf of the superheroine they goon over.
>>98004940No backwards retard, there should be one entry called 'infantry squad' instead of three specific ones for the three planets whose infantry happen to have kits at the momentAKA like has been the case since forever before 10th ed and only changed because some idiotic suit got it in his head that some child will be confused by the names on the boxes not matching the codex entry
>>98005033Marazhai is like unquestionably the breakout star of that game, though. A rising tide lifts all boats.
>>98005034Basically yeah.
>>98005021There is a reason why older players say 40k has been getting shittier since 5th dropped.It was the edition when the original gang started to drop.I wont pretend 40k had some super good writing but at least it kept interesting setting to play games on.
>>98005038One of the biggest problems with GW at the moment is that they want to make rules to use your models when they should be making models to represent the rules.
>>98005012
>>98005025all they had to do is not have the begging and have it be a small craftworld, clearly worked out in twice dead king where minor dynasty is getting their shit pushed in
>>98004790The command squad and snipers are super tempting
>>98005041Because DELdar are allowed to go uncucked unlike craftworlders.Which isn't because GW likes DEldar, it's purely because half the time they don't care about DEldar, and then completely forget that the faction even exists the other 50% of the time.Also I'll hit you with this.If Marazhai was a female dark eldar, you would NOT be able to romance them at all. We all know this is how they would've done it.
>>98005049Ruleswise it'd be a pain of conflicting intents.
>>98005025>Buddy, they [bullshit completely blown out of proportions]
>>98005032Novel where a fresh young Imperial Guard officer is rescued from a Chaos assault by a (curvy) Eldar Seer, and as the two of them escape enemy territory they discover romantic feelings for one another.It ends with the Seer taking the officer back to her Craftworld for 'diplomatic' reasons after they narrowly avoid getting executed by the old bitter Commissar who thinks being happy is for queers.
>>98005064It's not.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98005069Too based for GW/BL
>>98005064>[bullshit completely blown out of proportions]
>>98005062I don't know if I agree or not. Marazhai's basic thing, apart from playing on overall DS themes which are obviously going to be popular with women, is romancing someone who easily could kill you - and would enjoy killing you - but who enjoys the power play of the romance even more.The closest Owlcat romance in other games is probably Camellia. Camellia is an out-and-out pathological serial killer, but the end of the romance is a degree of normalisation as it regards the male PC in particular. I think Owlcat could have done a female Dark Eldar romance and still let it be fucked up.
>>98004790>already bought badrukk and ammo runt MTO>planning on buying ork side of armageddon>now thisAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>98005031>that out of nowhere scene in betrayer where the characters of the book are just watching from afar how some random no name characters pilot new model tanks of differrent configurations are kicking ass for a page to then never be mentioned again so he can check that task give by GW off and move on to writing what he wantsthis is probably the same thing
>>98005072Bluds run out of deldar images to post so hes drawing his own, the state of it
Dark Eldar?More like Fart Smelldar
>>98005079yeah, those 3 lines that imply an actual plot with actual characters that have that plea make sense is the entirety of the trilogy where a minor weak imperial force absolutely annihilates this major craft and basically you're retarded.
Dark Eldars are shit
>"Eldar are a proud and noble race!" - Exarch Neita Gitlayd, leader of the Shrine of Moaning Wh'ores (Wh'ores were a fearsome alien race the Eldar defeated twenty million years before Humans existed so there are no actual pictures or lore of them)There, a summary of every Eldar character ever.
>>98005069H E R E S Y
>>98005090I just don't understand why GW has been shoving smurfs into everything. I know this isn't really new but it feels like it's more obnoxious then it was before. I would even take BA wank over this.
People getting filtered by eldars being a tragic dying race>what do you mean they are not winning and kicking ass?>Huh? The last of their kinds traveling the stars as their empire is long dead and even their gods are gone are not le epic heroes of winning??This is why GW gives marines everything and then some, the common retard can only wrap its head around strength and wins.
>>98005038In a better world, the 11th edition "detachment" system would fix this and there'd just be a 1pt detachment that says "your infantry squads are now X Infantry Squads".
>>98005162No one likes losers, anon.
>>98005174Why the fuck would you do that when the difference between those squads is minimal?
>>98005162They are a tragic dying race because Slaanesh and spirit stones inherently limit their race, not because they are fodder for bolter porn.
>>98005176That kinda just proves his point. Eldar fans don't like Eldar, they like some re-written headcanon they've made up about Eldar to avoid actual Eldar lore.
>>98004998Hello ADB I want you to know you're a faggot and a fake NL fan cause you have all the narrative power in your hands and don't use it to advance the NL plotline or anything.
>*blocks your path*
>>98005210>T3 1WYou're not blocking shit
>>98005186And you're only proving the other anon's point, the people getting filtered are imperial fans, and that's because your only involvement with 40k is retarded power scaling.
>>98004954Support the artists and workers who bring this world to reality, not ching chong and ivan who only steal
>>98005062>Also I'll hit you with thisIf Marazhai was a female dark eldar, you would NOT be able to romance them at all.This is very true
>>98005176I like GSC.
>>98005210Why they can't have a Codex and a proper Army? Are they paying for Ynnari sins?
Personally I feel like GW missteped with the narrative timing of Calgary crossing the rubicon.While I understand the in universe political reasons why he went under for the, at the time, risky surgery to become a primaris, I feel it would have been better to have Calgar cross the rubicon after his bloodied dual with Abbadon at the end of the Vigilus campaign books, I think that would have better demonstrated the power that the engines of the imperium wield and the need for its heroes to take heavy risks in hopes to be able to face them.
>>98005210>these literal clowns somehow managed to make Cuckstodesfags seethe for years despite Cuckstodes jobbing to other more embarassing stuff in loreClownGODSI KNEEL
>>98005210bless up clownchad
>>98005032Kinda like this >>98005069 but instead>a Tau diplomat get's a Mandrake bodyguard as a part of some deal. >Mandrake has mouth sewn with green lines of magic. >Hijinks ensue.>We get a plot of some noble fammilys on a hive world>dark mech try to coddle up to tau diplomat so they can have a meat shields for their dastardly dees>Mandrake Saves the Tau boy many times and he gets more friendly with him>stuff in between>Ending is a test again a daemon of Slaanesh>obviously they win>Years pass>Tau diplomat got a new land with a village of other tau (with his fammily) as a "congratulation gift" for bringing the planet into Tau dominion>Mandrake i seen as a friend>Then one night the mandrake murders the village and leaves the diplomat for the last looking at him as he kills him taking in the look of betrayal>Plot twist shows that it was a long term plot by the Dark Eldar to test the Suffering levels of the Tau>Mandrake gets promoted>The promotion speech is mixed with memories of a mandrake punching and smashing everything in the village due to anger >The last scene shows him at the shit sitting on a dead Deathwatch marine looking at his hands bandaged with pieces of cloth from the robe of that Tau DiplomatHere. We can cover both Tau and Deldar ranges, we can get Sad edits, and Fujo crowd with this shit.
>>98005214>*makes invuln save*>*reaction moves into cover to avoid shooting and charges*psssssshhhhh nothing personnel.................kid.......
>>98005251>>98005255The beast arises series was such a shit show, but throneworld having the Harlequins dab on the custodes and the player bases never ending cope about it honestly is fantastic.
>>98005258go back to the discord
>>98005258GrimDark even
>>98005176everyone likes losers, most of human literature is centered around underdogs
So I know this mask is supposed to go on the back of the beast boss on squigosaur, but has anyone ever put it on them as an actual mask? I feel like it fits pretty well, and considering how ork players are always customizing, I’m just surprised I’ve never seen a single example. Have I just not paid attention? Does anyone have a pic of what I’m talking about or is it just a dumb idea?
>>98005228GSC are the main protagonist of 40k.It is a well known fact that all the events in 40k are just proxy wars between GSC empires.
>>98005285It's a bit oversized, it's going to make your dude look small.
>>98005258That actually sounds pretty neat, but I doubt an of the current BL authors would be able to competently write that, I suggest giving the idea to a stinky fujo with some accompanying fanart and come back in 8 months to see if they made a publishable fanfic.
>>98005290LELITH SEXPERAX
>>98005032Book opens with a cataclysmic warp event where all eldar and dark eldar get eaten by Slaanesh, only the based dinosaur-riding ones survive. All thousand grey knights die to in order to end this warp event and the Emperor's geneseed is lost forever and Titan is destroyed in the process. Guilliman and the Lion realize they were not brought back to restore the imperium, but only to sacrifice themselves to save it in this event and they and most custodes defend the imperial palace against the full might of chaos and all daemon primarchs who kill them and all who know how to create custodes and leave only a few custodes alive. Most cadians also die in this event, leaving the imperium to have to rely more strongly on other regiments going forward. A courier bearing the last orders of Kaldor Draigo is brought to the inquisition who are tasked with making the new military wing of the ordo malleus, saying that the fight against the daemonic must now be done by imperfect humanity, not incorruptible beings of the emperor's essence. Cawl iterates on the primaris process after finding secret schematics during his snooping around in the imperial palace during the fight, making it a painless and riskless upgrade that every firstborn receives.The imperium marches on without gk, custodes, and primarchs and chaos are left with most daemon primarchs permanently dead. As a consequence of this a ton of IG regiments get model refreshes and the exodites get a full faction with AoS quality models and carve out their own empire in the aftermath of the events. The distinction of primaris vs non-primaris is never mentioned again and everyone is assumed to be primaris just with newer models having true scale, the difference only applying to meta irl size. All is well. And of course lastly it's revealed that it was the alpha legion who were behind all this as they are fighting a schizo meta 4th wall reality which is actually our own which they are aware of.
>>98005002This was never really a thing The old drop pod rule was that if you dropped onto a unit you rolled the Bad Things table, or moved the drop pod to be as close to its location as possible but not over a unit.
>>98005305Then Fabius Bile clones the God Emperor and he 1v1’s the old God Emperor who turned evil…
>>98005032Give me alien vs predator but it's kroots, orks and tyranids in a necron tomb
>>98005290>Been up for 4 whole minutesThe world is healing
>>98005032A Genestealer Cult on a Hive World puts their plans for revolution in motion only to be waylaid by Alpha Legion Infiltrators concocting their own plots who themselves are ambushed by Eldar forces sent to act on a century long prophecy, yet the Eldar themselves are taken by surprise when it turns out there was a Necron Tomb complex on the planet that suddenly activates as per their Overlord's grand master plan.
>>98004349No, they're obviously too fucking big to fulfill the dreadnought role
>>98005305Thats really gay.
>>98004204What would 40k Gloomspite Gitz even look like anon? I feel a larger focus on giant and goofy scrap machinery would be nice but that would take a lot away from the Bad Moon and Evil SunzMaybe alien beasts?? Grot tanks are a given
>>98005290Based.
People last thread said Black Templars are the faction that attracts the most Nazis, why is this? I thought it was Guard.
Do you think Alpha legion would be cooler if they were more like how the CIA operate(s)d in south America.
>>98005305Fuck, you can work for BL without a doubt anon, what a bunch of trash just for release some elves on dinosaurs holy shit.
>>98005356Because nazis have good taste when it comes to aesthetics
>>98005357I think Alpha Legion would be cooler if they ever did something besides " we are everywhere, undercover, bro"And Alpharius actually was alive.
>>98005356Secondaries on both sides that have never actually gone into a lgs or interacted with anyone in the hobby besides posting shitty memes and making up fake stories in a way to mimic old greentext posts.
>>98005356Both do.
>>98005356Guard are typically losers or fodder in lore, and lack the Crusader aesthetic.
>>98005356It’s both.
>>98005365You've got two options>Alpharius being aliveOr>Alpha legion actually being coolPick one.
>>98005357Would be cooler like Bane and the League of Shadows. A mastermind Marine lord and his human operatives/cult followers.
>>98005357What don' they already do that La cia does down there?>mfw that time chaos cultists stole god-emperor Bolivar's sword
>>98005356Depends if you mean actual Nazis, or you're doing the "I'm going to call anyone to the right if Stalin a Nazi because I'm a retarded vegan furry tranny wiccan communist" schtick
I just bought two battleforces (Realspace Raiders and Eldritch Raiders), despite still having a pile of shame to finishwhy did I do this
>>98005388>What don' they already do that La cia does down there?Well for starters Alpha Legion is occasionally helpful
Kinda hyped about the new orks. I'm thinking of building some terrain with the new areas to prepare in the meantime. Something like this in place of ruins.
>>98005357>"Magos Cawl, we're Alpharius."
>>98005392Time to learn how your brain operates
>>98005356it's both. And from Guard it's usually Kreig.Which is weird Since Arrmagedon Steel Legion is actually closer to WW2 Germany (doctrine wise) than Kreig Is. Or it's just that both Black Templar and Kreig fanboys are the most obnoxious ones.
>check LGS on my way somewhere>"what are you guys playing">"Drukhari vs space wolves">space wolf army is fully painted>drukhari army is just a bunch of half painted black marines
>>98003756>TQBATTLELINE Sentinels, both Scout and Armored. Squadrons up to 3 or 4.ROLL OUT.
>>98005392>Inside you there are two wolves...
>>98005416drilled anus or not?
I miss cadia...
>>98005359If saving the setting means replacing Matt Ward as the new punching then it is with great humility that I take on this burden. Oh, also, the votann got lost in the warp and returned with sensible grimdark aesthetics too. All xenos including eldar can stay, I love some craftworl eldar stuff they just have to not be so retarded, DE are teh antithesis of my aeshtetic of choice but they have funny human chairs so they can stay too, but all the imperium forces mentioned must go, that's non-negotiable
>>98005162>>98005176there is being a losing faction, one that actually loses ground and if they manage to get something done they're still worse off and whimpering cowardly when on the other side of the bolterthe first one you can sorta respect, the latter not so much
>>98005356Guard is a way more flexible faction than BT so it's hard to nail down an exact stereotype. A lot of them are WBing and homebrew fags so it's even harder to narrow it down. Traditional military stuff tends to attract people from all ends of the political and autism spectrum as well specially if they are chud adjacent. In general I think a lot of IG fans fall into one of two camps>Aha the indomitable human spirit in the face of adversity im so happy to play le everyman! We shall brave throigh the horrors of the galaxy to prove humanity's strength!>Im so happy to play a dickish ultraviolent armchair general who sends man to die without a hint of care for them! Haha pew pew! Go step on a landmine Johnson we cant afford it hitting a tank insteadIronically the ones on the first camp are way more likely to have far right leaning beliefs than ones on the second one>t. Guardfag
>>98005356deus vult larpers
>>98005356Nobody plays black templars. Most melee marinetards stick to blood angels, some to wolves.
>These includes The Great Statue of Melvin Gibson in our capital city, Almaty - it stands over 700 feets tall and has a staircase inside so children can climb up and throw potatoes on jewtown from his anoos.
>>98005319>thousands of years of worship twisted the old emperor into a nascent evil warp god>biles creation reimposes his Imperial Truth leading the imperium into a schism, sacrifices himself to slay the evil his original form had become.
>>98005387I'm afraid to read any more about AL since I thought this is what they were already and what makes them cool. (except he has other marine goons too, he just uses chaos cultists 99% of the time)
>>98004790Where are the female Vostroyan models?
>>98005483in the kitchen
>>98004866after the ultramar auxilia gets a release
>>98004940INFANTRY SQUADHEAVY WEAPONS SQUADCOMMAND SQUADwas that hard?VETERAN SQUADspecial weapon squads
>>98005392you were possessed by the buyfag daemon of the warp. now paint your models anon, redeem urself in the Emperor's eyes
>>98005032Novel that starts with a lone Skitarii wandering around on a recently reclaimed Forgeworld on his dragoon arriving at a Crusade era facility that’s been abandoned for ten millennia. The rest of the story is told in flashbacks of his time starting out as a clone, then a foot soldier, then being selected to be made into a servitor or put in a Dunecrawler or something when all of a sudden a display changed and he was released and given orders to go to an asteroid base. He meats a rogue Magos there who hacks into forge world systems from time to time to steal skitarii for his own use from time to time. We cut back and forth to the present errand and past tasks he’s been sent on. Everywhere he shows up there’s hacked orders and permission forms waiting for him allowing his entry wherever. We see his personal growth both mentally and physically through augmentation, his lessons with the rogue magos. Eventually back in the present he recovers a lost STC component in the ruins, preserved as a relic. He severs his connection to the magos, takes the component with him to Mars and is promptly arrested on arrival. After being held for weeks he’s brought before Belisarius Cawl himself, who informs him that the rogue magos is just a machine that Cawl sometimes operates with a fragment of his consciousness as a game, and congratulates him on his ascension to the priesthood.
>>98004724>rather than follow up on ulthwe vs. nightlord, the recent campaign book indicates ulthwe will instead be fighting perturabo and the iron warriorskino
>>98005174>>98005178or hell, generic infantry/hw/command squad gets one special ability, chosen from a list themed for the regiments.
>>98005483Same armor for the women
>>98005483At home making more firstborn, duh
>>98005502>Xenos going up against a Chaos PrimarchLolLmaoShattering of Ulthwe soon
>>98004883>codex says most farseer prophesies are accurate>novels always have their prophesies failhackery
>>98005497>He meats a rogue Magosanon nooooooo
>>98005508If the firstborn is a girl she's the one that goes to the guard, anon
>>98005025Why did they let Gav Thorpe, a known elf-hater/dwarf-lover, write the Craftworld trilogy anyway? They didn't do that for the Dark Eldar trilogy
>>98005462>Ironically the ones on the first camp are way more likely to have far right leaning beliefs than ones on the second oneMostly because to be the second one you need some form of self awareness and knowledge of the shitty life in 40k and it's brand of Dark ComedyFirs one is projecting you own belifs and/or insecurites onto faction. Becaus you want to be this badass based soldier of the brutal regime that would kill everyone YOU dislike(same shit with people who praise RL dictatures)
>>98005518Wrong
>>98005392It happens Anon. I’m just getting started, and I bought a combat patrol and the Christmas battle force for TSons, but I don’t want to play them now, so I’ve been amassing CSM instead. I still plan to build and paint them all out of principle, plus I could use the Rubrics still, but it is frustrating having to look at 12 boxes of unbuilt shit now.
>>98005162Tolkien's elves are also a tragic race doomed to failure but they still get to do cool things
>>98005513
>>98005356I really wish that the BT fanbase ended up more on the "yeah we're playing evil psychos and that rocks" end like with Marines Malevolent
>>98005525Thats how it is, sorry I shattered your homoerotic dreams about cossacks, anon
>>98005502>eldrad did next to nothing while part of the ynnari>after he leaves, he becomes relevant againWhy/
>>98005518The original (and correct) lore stated firstborn sons.
>>98005511He's probably teaming up with the Imperial Fists and Karen Creed so he should be fine
>>98005502>Not even with ADB in charge can the night lords get their moment to shineGrim
>>98005539But that’s not how it is and my homoerotic Cossack fantasies are intact AND ur gay
>>98005525>>98005545>there was a short story released about the very first eldest daughter to join the vostroyan, and how she had to deal with sexism and shitIt's funny how this is what redditors wanted the femstodes retcon to be like, except redditors prefer the guard to have always been gender-equal for some reason
>>98005557Link or ur a gay liar
>>98005483The same armour as Males.
Have the eldar done anything besides get shit on since 2017
>>98005521Marines being the de facto Good Guys of the "There are no good guys!" is not a new concept. GW has ALWAYS viewed Marines as the Good Guys, as that's the best view to take to maximize Marines sales.Eldar were viewed as potentially encroaching on the role of Good Guy because at worst they're just arrogant pricks, which the Imperium also constantly acts as so it's not all that much of a downside.To discourage Eldar popularity from growing GW employed Thorpe to turn them into miserable losers, thereby dissuading new players from getting interested in Eldar. as word of mouth would spread how lame they are.Now GW makes more money than they know what to do with via Marines so they don't give a fuck about dissuading other factions any more, but due to the existing stigma around Eldar nobody at BL actually wants to write about them and most are perfrctly fine using them as punching bags.
>>98005545No it was always firstborn children, not sons
>"Admiral, Noemus of the emperor's children is making contact">"Traitor...very well. Accept the incoming transmission and activate the hololith display">"..."
>>98005521Because Dark Eldar had someone who loved the faction and wanted to write for them (Andy Chambers who also went on to write the Taldarim and Alarak for StarCraft 2).No one at GW actually likes Eldar besides Jes and he doesn't write lore so he lets Gav do the Eldar writing because he likes writing about elves being laid low for their hubris so at least he still has fun doing it. Dark Eldar didn't get another novel until Mike Brooks picked them up because he loves degenerates fighting the power and the system and that's how he writes his DE novels now.
>>98005561Which part, the Vostroyan women stuff? It's from a short story called the Firstborn Daughter
>>98005483vostroyans firstborn were drawn exclusively from the first sons of their respective family, women not allowed.
>>98005567we can finally move on from the ynnari so that's good
>>98005032Bolter porn where a random cool successor chapter hears word that a relic belonging to their unknown primarch is located on a shitty hive world in the middle of a civil war between a gsc cult and khornate cult. Naturally the cults are fighting over the mcmuffin as well. The relic reveals that the chapter has unsavory roots and the leader of the task force shoots the other marines to silence them.The end.
>>98005571>soon the entire sector shall be bimbofied
>>98005569page 18 of 5th edition codex:>For ten thousand years, the Vostroyans have given up the first-born son of every family for service in the Imperial Guard.
I have 20 boyz already and there's 20 more in the launch box. How many more should I get? I think I can get another 20 classic boyz.
>>98005569No, the firstborn stuff was originally sons. They changed it recently. This is from the 5th edition codex
>>98005569In a more perfect world we would drag lying parasites like you into the streets and beat you to death
>>98005574Christ, that’s gay
>>98005571Damn is this what chuds look like nowadays?
>>98005577>>98005595I think GW changed it officially as of 9th edition
>>98005577You can be sure that will be thrown out if they ever get plasticized
>>98005569That's not correct.>>98005602This is a really weird thing to say when talking about tabletop game lore. Step back for a minute and evaluate your emotions.
>>98004790>Back in 2006, the Vostroyan Firstborn debuted as a new Astra Militarum regiment that featured heavily in the Fall of Medusa V campaign .>Back in 2006Oh cool, so it's like they're 10th anni... wait... no, 20th...Emperor fucking damn it, I feel really fucking old now.
>>98005561It was from INFERNO
>>98005567Yes, the Biel Tan have been killing a lot of Tau.
Everyday I feel happier knowing that black library doesn't mean anything to 40k since it isn't canon.
>>98005609The marxist agitators can't help themselves.
>>98005615Was this the one where a Guardsman got an Eldar GF only for her to get her brains blown out by a Marine?
>>98005584Now I'm imagining these three factions fighting over a literal Egg McMuffin from McDonalds and I can't stop smiling. And he shoots the other marines so he's the one who gets to eat it, but when he opens the wrapper it's just a hunk of mold and dust from being millennia old, but since he's an astartes he eats it anyways.
>>98005609Yeah it was still sons as of 8th edition>The stoic Vostroyan Firstborn are tied to a life debt they can never repay. Since their failure to send aid during the Horus Heresy, every Vostroyan family has given their first-born sons to the tithe, each regiment raised erasing a tiny portion of Vostroya’s shame. Yet the Firstborn do not begrudge their duty, andare well known for their irascible courage and fortitude in defence of the Emperor’s realm.
>>98005567Alaitoc did a little trolling against silent king in Pariah Nexus
>>98005609>>98005610Changing the primary identity of the regiment for... What? Who is pleased with that?
>>98004790Too bad the MTO will be ridiculously expensive cause otherwise I'd buy them
>>98005644The diversity officer
Just post the Tolkien quote about evil already...
>>98005644guardfags do not want to play as a sexist regiment
>>98005609further proof any lore that happened after 7th edition should be automatically discarded
>>98005483Under the pile
>>98005557This mixed guard shit is so forced. I take no issue with the existence of woman in a couple regiments here and there, there have been real world wars that left the male population of certain countries incredibly devastated with a large surplus of woman, in a galaxy where there is only war the most reasonable thing would be to at least get some of them to fill some of the male numbers back up to not leave a place helpless and to meet the munitorum's number quotas, im sure someone interested in making a /yourgals/ unit can find plenty of pseudo realistic excuses to do so that dont contradict with the lore. The real issue is just how outright moronic it is to have man and woman sharing the same fucking unit and fighting side by side, how the fuck is that in any way reasonable or effective when it can fuck up the troops' psyche completely?
>>98005644The goal has never been to make money, but to make people mad.Because the people that do this thing operate under the idiotic theory that their revolution does not happen because people are entertained enough. So they need to destroy entertainment so it would some how will be mad and result in revolution. If the goal was entertainment or make money they would create their own stuff or improve existing things and not go out of their way to shit things up or try to bring down anything that does not play along with them.Once you notice this stupidity you can't unnoticed it.
>>98005658What caused old mate to eject from the hobby?
>>98005658the context of that photo still make me laugh
>>98005653Uh, yeah we do
I don't see a problem with female guards as long as they're pretty, fuck that bulldog face Creed bitch
>>98005654Basically this
>>98005664>The real issue is just how outright moronic it is to have man and woman sharing the same fucking unit and fighting side by side, how the fuck is that in any way reasonable or effective when it can fuck up the troops' psyche completely?>imperium is retarded and does stupid shitFirst time learning about 40k?
>>98005677>female custodes come out>he spergs out>so much that afther one match he says that his whole homebrew chapter got destroyed>he sold his minisMoral of the story was that you should play xenos. No retcons when GW does not acgnowladge your existance
>>98005700Pretty solid point all things considered
>>98005654after 4th.5th started the fanfiction period.
>>98005697I have no problem with female imperial guard as long as they are aren't doing heavy lifting.
>>98005612>Step back for a minute and evaluate your emotionsI assure you my heart rate didn't change by a single bpm while typing that, I don't get emotional while stating facts
>>98005727I could tolerate them if it was some kind of special unit like snipers or some bullshit regiment like Catachans and even then I would question the frontline ones.
>>98005697Might be a hot take here but bulldog faced overweight lady fits the aesthetic of the churchill style commander Creed is supposed to be than a pinup model. Especially when his father was a fat bulldog faced brick shithouse himself. It's in the family.
>>98005677When we first knew about gw retconning custodes to have women he decided that was a line gw shouldn't have crossed and that it didn't bide well for the future of gw.When gw doubled down on the retcon and had the animation about the female custodes he decided that was the time to leave the 40k hobby.He had one last narrative game with his custom chapter all about their last stand on the battlefield and packed them away.If someone tells you he sperged out or in any way damaged or mistreated or sold his models, they're lying because they're apologists of the kind of movement that pushed for cuntstodes.
>>98005727If your guardsmen are lifting while on service then your part of the imperium must be very boring.
>>98005664Putting females into combat roles is just fucking disrespectful to men who historically have been the ones who had to struggle, suffer, sweat and bleed to secure their people's and nations' existence throughout thousands of years of human history. 99.999% of all soldiers to ever fight in war were men.40k is a setting that originally paid homage to history, that's why Space Marines are all like "here's the not!Roman Chapter, here's the not!Barbarian Norse Chapter" etc.Playing wargames is partly about acknowledging men's struggles through a history of brutal warfare. It's not a realm meant for women. It's not made to appeal to them at a fundamental level. If they want to take part because they're an oddball, fine, sure. But the moment anything about the hobby, the setting, the game, is catered to women specifically, it is abandoning the literal essence of its soul that caused it to naturally come about. Women would never have invented wargames at all. 40k only exists because it was created by a group of almost entirely men.Every time more female "representation" is forced into it, they are actively spitting on and desecrating the virtues of men that the setting was modelled after.
>>98005670>The goal has never been to make money, but to make people mad.>Because the people that do this thing operate under the idiotic theory that their revolution does not happen because people are entertained enoughYou're a fucking retard if you think the actual communist dipshits who think along tbose lines get employed by companies like GW. These changes happen because one of the data-trend rakers inside GW's marketing team was ordered to find a way to 'increase audience engagement', and the easiest idea they had was "If we put women in it then that means we're catering to the untapped women audience!". Executives are too stupid and disconnected from the average consumer base that theh believe this logic and sign off on it. Management then turns to Black Library and the Codex lore authors and tells them to include women in a Guard regiment. Notably, don't make a NEW one, because making a new one couls lead to expenses in design and production if the change gets traction, but an existing one they can reliably bring back with ease. The ripe choices for this are previously all-male groups because the sudden inclusion of women is liable to cause some sort of engagement thus increasing 'exposure', appeasing the executives.This is also why Marines will never have women; Marines already have the most exposure, engagement, and profits of any 40k faction. The executives don't desire change with them, as they feel no need beyond releasing more of what already exists.Executives are fucking stupid, anon. They're number-crunching asshats who view things from the perspective of greens and reds, and nothing else. They only ever panic if something goes red for reasons not easily explained, and even then only if they don't have a back up plan to excuse themselves from being blamed.
>>98005771ahahahaha lmao wtf niggga shut your ugly ass up OMG
>>98005771To be honest that animation just showed female custodes change nothing about the faction as a whole. I still feel like it loses a bit because SoS are still female only so now the complementary nature of both halves of the Talons aren't reflected in their gender but it's not the end of the world.
>Crimson Fist said to be at Armageddon this time to help >CF hate orks and would be the perfect set up for Pedro Kantor getting a new model >actually Calgar is here now Why does GW not give special treatment to the other blue posterboys?
>>98005772>get employed by companies like GW.Anon I have some bad news for you...
>>98005780Fortunately Kantor is getting spared from becoming a primaris abomination like Shrike.
>>98005772>commie posting
>>98005776Instantly proving me right, holy shit
The older I get the more any "grimdark" painting style looks like fucking shit.
>>98005771What a pathetic post.
>>98005772Blind motherfucker or bad faith poster.
>>98005760Creed 2 is a terrible idea and invalidates the idea that her Father was a one in a billion genius when it comes to strategy and tactics. Not to mention the fact that it is such an inorganic and forced character, period.
>>98005796You don't belong in this hobby.
>>98005771>Putting females into combat roles is just fucking disrespectful to men who historically have been the ones who had to struggle, suffer, sweat and bleedWhat level of insecurity do you need to be on to be feel disrespected by a fictional woman in a fictional setting in a warzone? Especially when I am 100% certain you are not one of those said men who took part in a war.This is bordering on a mental illness.
>>98005760What is the point of replacing Churchill with female Churchill anyway. Also lots of ugly men have pretty daughters
>>98005771why do so many people on this site pretend like they have seen any sort of combat scenario?
>>98005798Not arguing that part, but her design works for her archetype. It would have been very jarring if Creed Jr looked like Lesk.
>>98005392>Eldritch raiders battleforcebased However, you’ll want at least 1 more box of voidreavers, if not 2 more boxes.
>>98005777>change nothing about the faction as a wholeexcept it sidelined the sisters of silence even further because they're no longer brought up to balance the gender representation that was an episode meant for the tithe of psykers the sisters carry, instead they made the episode about the introduction of the female custodian to the point they made the black ship handler unable to interact with the sister of silence, while that's part of their fucking job
>>98005780No Ultramarines are The Greatest Of Them All(tm)Anything in the universe must revlolve araund them. Even other Loyalist Primarchs don't matter. (Remember how Lion came back? Me neither)
>>98005760Why replace Creed with female Creed anon?Its like they are intentionally making things shit
Why are there no Chaos/heretic imperial guard?
>>98005764Damn, it's a shame since I really liked his painting, but I'll respect him for sticking to his principles.
oh look, more official confirmation that you can just use any GW guard infantry as Cadians/Krieg/Catachans
>>98005807The point is they wrote themselves into a corner by trapping Creed in Trazyn's pokeball and Creed's archetype was cool so they brought it back in a new character. Making the character Creed's child was pretty lazy but if you're gonna have someone with the same character archetype and build of Creed, might aswell have it be his own offspring.>>98005820They wrote Creed out of the setting a decade before making Ursula. It's not like they side him off with her in mind.
>>98005806Security or lack thereof has nothing to do with it, you are projecting because the entire movement of feminism is women feeling insecure around superior men and trying to force fictional settings to pretend they are equal instead of acknowledging reality.My argument is one of respect, which you are fundamentally incapable of understanding if you are a woman or a gay man. Which is also sort of my point. If you don't even get how this is disrespectful it proves you don't belong.
>>98005820Or it's just a company doing a dumbass decisions because they are chasing higher profit margins. Aka the usual.It's not that deep.
>>98005808You can watch thousands of Russian and Ukrainians getting blown up by drones and I can tell you there wasn't a single woman among them.
>>98005808Does living in South America and being at the receiving end of a shoot out count as a combat scenario?
>>98005777Nta but what bothered me about femstodes is they really add nothing to Custodes at all. Not looks, not personality, not even any interesting chatacters. Femstodes are so roided up and don't behave any differently from male custodes that the only thing that makes them different is pronouns, they are a pointless change that added nothing. I'm more pissed that the SoS don't get more attention despite being an all female faction with an interesting gimmick.
>>98005813Let's not pretend SoS were getting any attention before Custodes got women. I also want more SoS stuff but this has nothing to do with it.
>>98005809The problem is that she is a clone of her father in all aspects and came out of nowhere in the plot. Had Creed had any mention of a family or anyone close to him outside of Kell, I think I myself and others would probably be less annoyed by the character. Instead we get "Oh yeah, Cadia fell and Creed is dead or trapper by Trazyn or something, but here is his grown daughter with his same level of competence, experience, charisma and near identical wargear!"
>>98005803this wierd soul of man shit isn't real. It's a fucking board game and it was designed to be a hodge podge of different pop culture influences. The makers of 40k were not this weird manosphere bullshit your pedaling about "the cruel burden of men throughout the ages". They just liked lord of the rings, dune and arguing if samurai could beat a viking in a fight. There is nothing deeper here than that, and you trying to project your modern politics into 40k while complaining about politics in your games says a lot about you as a person.If you were smarter, you would be complaining about corporations, enshittification and the forces of capital that have infiltrated your hobby but instead you childishly lash out with an andrew tate adjacent rant that has nothing to do with the "sovl" of the hobby.
>>98005829>powerfully nostalgicwhat are some other powerfully nostalgic models?
>>98005834These arguments always fall flat because diversity probably does NOT lead to higher profits. It's caused by cultural rot.
>>98005822Because chaos doesn't sell enough to warrant a spiky version of every single army and kit the imperium has, so the representation of traitor guardsmen is up to a few models and your conversions for the time being.
>>98005833>you are projectingThe irony in this statement.
>>98005784>>98005789>>98005797Political ideologies die in the face of corporatism, anons. Communists get hit especially quickly, as they realize their 'ideals' run counter to actually making a living. The 'revolutionary' retards who want some grand new societal change are just that; retards. GW is a business. It operates as one. Lore details change because they ultimately affect GW's business very little beyond engagement farming. The authors in BL know this and are thankful, because it means their jobs are incredibly easy and they don't need to care about stepping in toes.>>98005813Oh please, the only time Sisters of Silence have mattered in the past 10+ years was when the Terminus Decree shit came out and people wanted to pretend the SoS would matter against GKs. The leader of the SoS in 30k got killed as an off-hand joke of a footnote. They've always been something that had one cool design, and were shoved in with the Custodes to give some variety to thay brain-dead trash heap of a skew faction.
>>98005834When is the same fucking pattern of dumb ideas. Its hard to pretend there is something else going on.I can't recall when it was the last time some random female character got replaced man and got presented as something cool and great.It is always a man getting replaced for a women or for some fucking reason the redheads are turn into blacks.
>>98005841As I said, there's a decade between Creed getting spirited away by Trazyn and Ursula being introduced. And in a way having it be a different person, even if related, does make thematic sense when considering the new Cadian generation after the planet got destroyed. It's not like they killed Creed with malice to try and replace him. It's the opposite.
>>98005833nigger its play pretend. the women are just playing pretend. and its genuinely not even that many women its like 2 max at a your LGS and maybe a tranny. It is insecurity, because like a snowflake having people around who don't conform to your world view unironically triggers you and pushes you out of the space because you are a fucking sperg.
>>98005840>but this has nothing to do with it.it does, because it's making things worse instead of making them better.you're shooting at the legs of a guy on the operating table and justifying yourself by saying he wasn't going to be running around for the next months anyway.adding female custodes did nothing but damage.
>>98005664that's what they're doing in ukraine now with women and older men, basically another warm heat signature for a drone to absorb. seems very in line with 40k.
>>98005771This post has the same energy as the guy who revamped Mordheim rules and removed Sisters of Sigmar, because they'd just get raped by all the men.>40k is a setting that originally paid homage to historyYet they saw fit to put shit like pic related into the RT rulebook, along with SoB and make models for female warriors.
>>98005869How has it made things worse? SoS went from getting nothing to getting nothing. Jack shit has changed for them. Is it making things better for SoS? Also no. It's just irrelevant.
>>98005844>company does a stupid thing in an ATTEMPT to chase HIGHER profit margins (VERY COMMON occurence)>it doesn't work out, aka the company FAILED and didn't raise their profit margins (like people predicted because their idea IS stupid)>see! your argument is wrong!You didn't prove anything wrong here. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.
>>98005829But lorewise vostroyans are all wearing superior caparace armor and hand made lasguns. They're closer to scions or karskin than regular cadians.
>>98005842>It's a fucking board game and it was designed to be a hodge podge of different pop culture influences. The makers of 40k were not this weird manosphere bullshit your pedaling about "the cruel burden of men throughout the ages". They just liked lord of the rings, dune and arguing if samurai could beat a viking in a fight.Yeah and all of that shit is made by men, for men. Dune and Lord of the Rings were written by men, the latter in particular by a soldier who had seen war, and both stories were about war. Vikings and samurai were all men. The lore writers of 40k were men. The art was done by men. The first space marine model was sculpted by a man. It's not that women were stopped from doing these things because of "sexism", it's that women could literally never, ever have even conceived of these ideas or created any of it on their own because the entire setting is about WAR.
>>98005866I simply feel that GW had a good opportunity to make a new character who builds a reputation similar to Creed in plot. With skill, merit and competence instead of being Creed Jr who appeared out of thin air. But nothing I say or do will sadly change the bad writing from the people at GW. I stick to /mydudes/ and their adventures in non-plot sectors doing their own, inconsequential stuff.
>>98005854Ive posted in this general for years. The "talons of the emperor" anon has infinite stamina and will talk about how they are a perfect masculine/feminine and sun/moon duality for days. No new information can challenge his unshakeable faith in this perspective. He WILL out last you. His autism is impenetrable.
>>98005874Da pic.
>>98005842
>>98005868You are too stupid to even read my posts and respond to the actual points I'm making. When did I say anything about the people at my LGS? This is about the lore and models. You are genuinely low IQ.
>>98005881And 40k is 99% male dominated, female custodes was conceived of an pushed by a man. It's still men, nothing has changed. Picrel is who really pushed Custodes and he looks exactly like the type of person you would expect to be into 40k or work on the game.
>>98005883Not disagreen with you there mate. My point was that Ursula, being the exact same character archetype as her father, looks better as a bulldog faced fat granny than a pretty pinup model. It's just good character design.
>>98005849There's none. You have no arguments except to go "no u" while I have reasoned out and explained things. Address the points or fuck off, you lost.
>>98005900>closed mouthchud>open mouthsoiboy
>>98005875>How has it made things worse?sos went from being token to being nothing, it got worse for them and will keep getting worse.
im about to meet up with someone liquidating a fuckload of old metal warhammer minis and im gonna spend like 15-20 on each sealed one like a good goyimhoping to snag some epic scale stuff and the old techmarine with the bigass claw but what else do you guys reccomend, guy has like fuckin everything
>>98005904On that we can agree, yeah. Sorry, I'm tired and I'll admit my reading comprehension has taken a nosedive because of it.
>>98005904>disagreenWhat the fuck did my corrector write.
>>98005833>Security or lack thereof has nothing to do with it, you are projectingYou're the one whose claiming that it is "disrespectful" to men when a fictional woman, in a fictional setting is fighting in a fictional warzone.This is the same level of mental illness as the left uses about "cultural appropriation" when arguing that shit like Speedy Gonzalez is "disrespectful" to mexicans.This no longer borders on mental illness, it just straight up is.
>>98005840GW is retarded for never expanding more on the SoS because their faction concept sounds cool but they are lacking in both lore and characters. You know it's bad when their most well-known character was from the HH and the thing most people know her for is she died in a really anti-climactic way.
>>98005913scottish spell check
>>98005771>they hated him because he told them the truthPerhaps one of the most Based posts in this god forsaken place in a long time. And you can tell partly because it has the troon 'cord in a tizzy. Look for blowback to appear on X and grimdank
>>98005908So they're still the same as always, gotcha.
>>98005920proof of said 'tizzy?
>>98005926Look at your red face in the mirror.
>>98005842This 100%.
>>98005925No, they aren't, it got worse, and cannot get better now.
>>98005928>n-nuh uhYou sure showed him.
>>98005928i'm not on the troon cord i just like seeing people angry
>>98005928>picrel its me I disagreed with you so I'm angry and spitting all over my monitor in a seething rageowned desu
>>98005915Fiction isn't meaningless. It's created for a reason. It reflects something about real life that speaks to us. You know this which is why people like you push to alter fiction you don't like and push to include things that speak to your political agenda and to remove things that disagree with your political agenda. This "it's just fiction bro why does it matter" tactic is fucking pathetic. If it doesn't matter then why are you replying to me at all to argue FOR women being in it? It's just fiction bro it's just silly nonsense! What's wrong with it being all men if it's just fictional??
In war men die and women get raped.
>>98005810I have corsair kill team and Eldar in progress already>>98005493Yeah, I'm trying to grind through my backlog lately
>>98005943>t.man in wig who calls himself 'Stephanie'
>>98005920Thank you anon at least someone appreciated the effort.
Fellinids get portrayed as humans with cat features like ears, nose whiskers in fanart, but aren't they supposed to look like khajiits from TES?
>>98005842>corporations, enshittification and the forces of capital that have infiltrated your hobbyhow about we demonise both the profit driven enshittification and the politics driven enshittification? because both are happening and no pandering to gender equality in 40k kits has ever driven sales up
I don't normal post at this hour but Jesus Christ which timezone am I blaming with for this absolute state.
>>98005964No, because official felinid art or models don't exist therefore there is no actual basis for their appearance.
>>98005842>and the forces of capital that have infiltrated your hobbyI love how you can't even pretend for one minute to not be a faggot communist while trying to act like you're not political
Why do chuds have to shit up so many 40K threads by screeching about politics and inserting ideological meanings to the setting which the creators clearly did not intend?The setting isn't about race realism/whites vs brown xenos analogies/trad catholicism/neopaganism or whatever. It's an overthetop grimdark space madhouse that doesn't even take itself that seriously.
>>98005971I'm blaming americans. It's usually correct. Or Ben.
>>98005949>If it doesn't matter then why are you replying to me at all to argue FOR women being in it?Women have been in warhammer since the beginning.>What's wrong with it being all men if it's just fictional??Because you are censoring creativity to align with your political agenda, which is cringe. 40k has tons of great female characters and it has tons of bad ones. They are being shoehorned in for marketing purposes, but the biggest piece of 40k media in the last 5 years has all the "grim shit of man" or whatever you want you are just a snowflake triggered a brown women was on screen for... what less than 10 minutes in the hours long total run time of the game? No one genuinely believes a niche hobby for dads is going to be over run with women any time soon.
>>98005816I hate that Gorillaman got several novels along with smurfs being in literally every big battle despite Ultramar getting gangbanged on all sides and the lore says they're supposed to be fixing it. Lion and his redeeming the fallen shit got like one book, a few codex entires, and it took years for GW to have him even try to meet Guilliman. It's like no one knew what to fucking do with him once they made money off his new model.
>>98005809...
>>98005980Always remember, making everyone into brown overweight womyn with the pronouns xir/xiry is not political. Asking why they are doing it is political though.
>>98005964You are not supposed to know what felinids look like in 40k.They could be catgirls, they could be thundercats, they could be furries, they could be stephen bibrowski, they could be wolverine, or they could be just unassuming looking humans but very agile and with cat eyes.
>>98005973NTA and I’m against women getting shoved into previously all male armies, but yeah, enshittification and companies being allowed to go crazy for profit is why this kind of shit happens.
>>98005980>Why do chuds have to shit up so many 40K threads by screeching about politics and inserting ideological meanings to the setting which the creators clearly did not intend?Because we used to just want to be left alone to enjoy our little nerd hobby and then got invaded by hordes of freakish troons and commies who screamed at us that its racist and sexist and needs to change to cater to them.You don't get to complain about chuds pushing back in a culture war that you started.
>>98005995>face contorts when you're doing a war face>face looks pretty when you're relaxedNo shit.
>>98005973I am responding to your post retard. I didn't unprompted start saying "im so happy that corporations focus grouped that more women in warhammer is better" or some shit. You are the one who had to voice your triggered snowflake views. You are the only who is rightfully being mocked for your views. Sad!
>>98005771Bro, you don't have to suck off crayon eaters to play this game
>>98005881>the fragile f*male mind cannot conceive of manly concepts like war and conquestk4/10
>>98006004I like the space scottish lady with the big braid and tartan.
>>98006009okay we can allow men and specifically Chinese women
>>98006001>in a culture war that you started.actually, that would be the baby eating billionaire pedophiles that began pushing woke ideologies in order to distract the poors back during the occupy wall street days.
>>98005986>Women have been in warhammer since the beginning.In small numbers, and that's fine. But trying to pretend like GW isn't forcing far more of them in everywhere now is just blatant dishonesty since they admitted it themselves. >Because you are censoring creativity to align with your political agenda, which is cringeNice projection. Censoring? You are the fags who invented cancel culture.
>>98005917The Sisters of Silence have always been cringe, the only guy at GW who cares about them is ADB, and he's also the one pushing femstodes. Also, ADB is the only person who cares about the whole duality thing with the Custodes and SoS, which is also goofy
>>98006013a true scottish rose
>>98005980>Why do chuds have to shit up so many 40K threads by screeching about politics and inserting ideological meanings to the setting which the creators clearly did not intend?Because they're reacting to someone, who's not the original creators, inserting ideological bullshit into the setting which the creators didn't intend
>>98006000The enshittification is a result of cultural marxists not capitalists.I'm not going to pretend GW hasn't done some really shitty things in pursuit of more money, but the flooding the lore and minis with brown and female characters and trans propaganda and shit like that is not one of them. There are multiple forces at play.
>>98005842>>98005771The duality of man
>>98006033>The enshittification is a result of cultural marxists not capitalists.Ideologies aside you can't be dumb enough to not think that the capitalists that want to milk the last sheckel out of any product aren't enshitifying things.
I push my fingers into my oooooooooooooooooooyis
>>98006021>GW isn't forcing far more of them in everywhere now is just blatant dishonesty since they admitted it themselves.and like a snowflake you are literally thinking about it and posting angry rants about it online lol
>>98006009>>the fragile f*male mind cannot conceive of manly concepts like war and conquestYeah this but unironically, and deep down you know it's true, too, that's why you freak out so much at people saying the things I said.>gives basically the one and only historical example of a decent female combat leaderLike I said, 99.999% were men. Not 100%.
>>98006046why are you posting age of smegmar images in the 40k thread?
>>98006004That looks pretty to you?
>>98006020That's true but any idiot that fell for it and became woke is still accountable.
>>98005988Gollimon is pretty much the only one which they bothered with making any hype araund returning. Fuck even Magnus and Mortarion had Badass trailers. Fulgrim got nothing and I doubt PeterTardo is getting much. And How long until Lion and Grandpa Smurf reunion?
>>98006033>we have completely captured 100% of the pasty white nerdy male market>how do we keep growing so our Blackrock overlords dont have us "removed"?
This entire political discussion was started by the angry Eldar fans who couldn't formulate a counter-argument to their faction being a bunch of losers. It's a distraction to shift focus away from the traditional Eldar bashing that brings everyone together.
>>98006046>like a snowflakeThe left literally cannot meme, all they can do is steal right wing memes and try to use them in reverse context which doesn't work because of the differences that cause the two sides to disagree to begin with, every single time.
The reason retards complain about women on /tg/ is that 90% of slide threads on /pol/ are ragebait about women
>>98006064the racial and gender quotas aren't making gw grow
>>98006066Truly the eldar are masterminds of manipulation and psy. warfare
>>98006079I don't need /pol/ to tell me black female guards(wo)man are lame
>>98006079No we complain about women because they (and the effeminate queer men and trannies that suck up to them) ruin everything made for the guys and we all know it's true on both sides, the lefties will always eventually admit how they enjoy destroying our hobbies when you defeat all of their fake arguments.
>/pol/ niggers showed up to cry about the left again
>>98006097BASEDBASED AND REDPILLED
>>98006082Investment firms don't care if their mandates in one area don't bring growth since they have their hands in every industry at once. They essentially make money by just doing nothing, as they simply send funds over to a company and expect to be paid back.If a company starts going under, they simply get their piece of the carcass before cutting it loose to dissolve in bankruptcy.Once you have enough money you literally cannot fail barring divine intervention, and firms aren't any different.
>>98006102>showed upI was playing 40k for decades before /pol/ existed. I don't even bother with /pol/ anynore and haven't in years since it's so astroturfed by Israeli bots these days. You are the tourist in my hobby not the other way around.
>>98005842Kek, “nothing deeper here” because you’re a shallow minded sleaze whose deepest thoughts are about what you’re going to eat for dinner you fat pig. Get your feminine sensibilities the fuck outta our general.
come 11th if elves of any kind want to be treated at least somewhat seriously they should just chimp out like IG did for yarrick's trailer all the way till the news or stream addressing their complaints are addressed. Bot it on twitter if you have to but unless the community manager or whatever middle-level ant doomscrolling their RRS feed on anything "warhammer" doesn't see it you might as well be docile sheep
>>98006021NTA but I don't mind having more women in the guard if GW wasn't so fucking bad at writing them. I swear every single female character has the exact same personality, "muh super competent and le scary female in -insert military position of power- that is high respected/feared by everyone". Where's my cowardly and flaky guardswoman or a selfish and vain female commissar that manipulates people by being charismatic?At least that would make them stand out more, why are the male characters allowed to be different and interesting like Cain and Yarrick are nothing alike but both are based.
>>98006125King!
>>98006114>you never should have come for my games... now you pay the consequences
>>98006125Based
>>98006009I’m so sick of this phenomenon where one person in history exists, so now it means that one exception must be prevalent everywhere.literally every time I hear about pirates, and especially female pirates its always the same three people brought up every single time. anne bonnie, mary reed, and ching shin (granted in her case she was very successful for a pirate while the other two were overblown by contemporary writers hopping on the pirate craze, so there’s no disrespect to her achievements).its the same thing with that one black samurai. anytime you see a black person in ancient japan its always “WELL WHAT ABOUT THAT ONE DUDE THAT WAS WRITTEN PURELY BECAUSE HE WAS UNUSUAL?” fuck off.
>>98006125You sound pretty retarded, anon, your arguments are at least.
>>98006132
>>98005910the old imperial priests are cool anon, sorry everyone is too busy having a tantrum to answer
>simple mention of femguards/femstodes>thread derailment succesful fuck, man.
>>98006111>They're not doing it for profits>But it's not ideologically motivated I swear!
>>98005842gem post
>>98006130>He thinks eldar of any kind would be respected in the first placeThe IG got their way because they're part of the Imperium and thus are a protagonist faction. Eldar are xenos, and tertiary ones at that. The opinion of Eldar fans means less than dirt outside of this site, and rightly so.
>>98006136>Haha, you see, I have depicted you as this classic reddit loser, despite the fact that reddit is the place that trooned out and turned into a left wing echo chamber while the most attractive muscular men are all right wing as fuckLmao
Custodes are all better when not gold
>>98005910Get Praetorians if he has any
>>98006046>Steven universe I forgot this show even existed and the only thing I remember from it is how ass the villains were and the sequel ended with characters hugging and crying. Gayest shit to ever air on tv.
>>98006114Holy mother of based...
>>98006171>TertiaryWhat?
>>98006161Anon you're missing one crucial detail here; the people who run investment firms are fucking retards who have more money and greed than sense. Again, they've reached the 'too big to fail' stage where they're disconnected from the consequences of poor decisions and simply keep rolling in their money.
Well at least you guys aren't arguing about rocks today.
>>98006154Most people won't believe this, but Females actually exist in real life, and you can see them for yourself id you know where to look. The government tries to keep it under wraps but they can't be everywhere all at once to turn you away from looking int he right places.
>>98006180*BANG BANG BANG*>CAM ON INGERLAND*BANG BANG BANG*>ZAP SUM FAKKIN URKS*BANG BANG BANG*
>>98006196I'm not missing anything, they either take decisions because it's for profits, or they take decisions based on their ideologythey know this shit isn't for profits, they are doing this for their poor ideologies
>>98006154welcome to Modern world. Bread and Circuses from the ruling class are shit so people now engage in Shitflinging as a Form of Entertaiment/ Impotent raging against their less and more imagined enemies
>>98006205i think i saw one out on the street the other day but i couldnt get a good look, crashed my car i was so shocked
friendly reminder the whole race/gender psy-op started right after occupy wall street
>>98006211They make decisions based upon what they think will give them profits. The results are either they succeed, and get more money, or they fail, in which case they pass the consequences on to the company they invested in while ensuring they get money out of whatever liquidations need to occur.The firms literally cannot lose. It's designed that way.
>>98006171and yet it's true that chimp outs work even if you have to threaten pulling a meduson on the nottingham office from enough accounts. Alas it's clear you just want to ragebait so all I can really tell you is for you to kill yourself
>>98006185I got hooked because of the green cyborg mommy, and kept watching it because of sunk cost fallacy, but holy shit that show was so ass, filler episode after filler episode focused entirely on the townspeople which doesn’t make sense because its completely animated, and so there’s no need for special makeup, new sets, or props, or anything that would justify a filler episode in something like a live action show. and worst of all they ended up turning the green cyborg mommy into a goblin retard, and pretty much wrote her out of the show anyway.
>>98006224Yea but it’s objectively the Women’s fault for falling for it so much harder. Men are just trying to correct it and being called the bad guy.
>>98006185Its known for being "autistic representation", which is why I choose that image.
>>98006238This whole website proves otherwise
>>98006226Cry more, bitch. Your faction exists so that human men can fuck pointy-eared women.
>>98006062Fulgrim got treated the worst out of the returned Primarchs by far: >novel wasn't even about him despite being on the cover>he appears in like 2 sentences>book is just BT wank >proceeds to not be relevant again At least Lion got 1 book, Magnus did stuff but jobbed, Morty did stuff but jobbed and is now grounded. Maybe Peter will get a book that's actually about him this time and not just be used for advertising by being on the cover. As for Lion and Gorillaman...eh...maybe after Eye of Terror since GW would want at least something to hype up for the next narrative campaign.
>>98006212>NIGGA THIS THREAD IS NUTS
>>98006224more or less. The Rulling Class noticed how thier slaves were getting a bit too hawky. Exept Euro rulers. They are just retarded.
I attempted some lava bases today Yay or nay?
>>98006258I think it looks very nice, a job well done!
>>98006249What about Angron?
>>98006125Fuck off back to your reddit friends decalnigger, maybe if you beg them on your knees and suck their dicks they'll agree to raid this place LMAO
>>98006258makes me think of one of those chocolate cookies that you squish and the hard shell cracks open to reveal the marshmallow interior. that is all to say… YAY
>>98006268Do you ever shut the hell up?
>>98006286
>>98006258Looks good as is, but I think it could do with a pass where you take a highlight color and stipple it along the paths made by the cracks.
>>98006258I love the purple mixed in too the lava. Definite yay.
>>98006299Nobody cares that you’re a stalker freak harassing randoms on Reddit.
>>98006234They did Peridot dirty after losing her robo limbs. And yeah, the townie filler eps were cancer, boring side characters that did nothing for the story and the filler eps weren't even fun. I lost interest when that guy died then revived and got stuck on the gem homeworld and instead of showing us the cool shit that happened to him, we just end up in another irrelevant townie ep. Awful use of filler and the worldbuilding was jank as hell. Some of the music was ok though.
>>98006308
>>98006299man, this must look so psychotic as a random redditor passing by.
>>98006270>>98006263>>98006307thanks anons. I'm glad the cracking turned out okay.>>98006304I was thinking of doing this but I wasn't sure what the best colour would be. A very dark orange?
>>98006299>>98006312kek
>>98006265Angron is the weekly raid boss that only exist to spawn in so named characters can look cool beating him. That's just his purpose now.
>>98006312More proof that you’re an insane weirdo who reports my accounts and comments to get me banned.
>>98006299>>98006312>>98006125He's really unable to turn of the sperg LARPing, huh?Next you'll say something super retarded about wolves backed into corners
>>98006319I would start that layer with a bright orange like Vallejo Orange Fire, then mix it with Yellow, and then progress with lighter shades by mixing with white until you like it.
>>98006344>Next you'll say something super retarded about wolves backed into corners"Wolves backed into corners pee the hardest, you simian, psychotic stalker! Awoo with me, brothers!"
>>98006338I’m not sure if this is really you, but as a genuine question what did you mean by “turn the other cheek much” in >>98006312 cause it implies you’re being sarcastic about him not actually turning the other cheek, but in that scenario he’s doing exactly that by forgiving the /tg/ collage makers by turning the other cheek and allowing himself to be slapped again (through another collage), so did you mean that turn the other cheek is supposed to say you’re meant to slap /tg/ back, or did you mean that space wolves posters shouldn’t be turning the other cheek at all? It’s genuinely driving me crazy thinking about it, so please answer.
you better start getting scared, /40kg/
>>98006344Stop replying to me
>When a Custodes starts slowing down physically from age, he retires and travels the galaxy as a spy, reporting back to the others>Custodes are 12 foot tall monster men that make Space Marines look like Guardsmen???
>>98006388>Can handle it myselfHow?
>>98006235Real women shouldn’t be listened to on the matter. They are compelled to say “yes, cool.” to more female representation by girl code, but if you watch their actions, they just turn around and continue amassing Death Guard and Terminids. Only the troons buy all the inclusive slop. When the individual custodes stuff launched my twitter feed was getting hit with wokehammer people posting their femstodes, and every single one of them was a troon. Meanwhile the only actual women hype I’ve seen lately was for the Ork half of the starter box.
>>98006344*wipes blood from mouth* you should fear a cornered wolf *snarls*
>>98006225They know this shit doesn't make money.They've had years to prove it, they've had plenty of professionals advising them.They keep doing these poor choices out of poor ideologies.
>>98006405>women like this thingngmi
>>98006406*Drills butthole* "Nothing personnel, Kiddo. *Coffeestains a miniature.*
>>98006388oh god, now he’s going to be extra annoying! I’m quaking in my boots!
>>98006404he will keep sperging out how wolves are awesome and how much eldar suck while not being able to resist telling on himself how much he wants that eldarussy
>>98006418>*Coffeestains a miniature.*
>>98006378I was pointing out how weak he and others were being, you can turn the other cheek but not against a gun ffs.
>>98006418Kek
>>98006422Imagine casting the runes before getting it on at a hardcore German sex club and simultaneously experiencing every possible timeline in which you participate in eeach kind of fetish in that dungeon.
>>98006434>>98006437
Jain Zar could take Russ.
>>98006464No, because Russ is only into hairy men.
>>98006434christ turned the other cheek while he was nearly stoned, and when he was later whipped and crucified, so you should attempt to turn the other cheek whenever possible. quakers are the best examples of this pacifism.
>>98006434Decal, I'm just curious but were you ever exposed to any church stuff at all as an adolescent? I thought that over where you lived there was a pretty sizeable protestant population.
>>98006489I know more about the bible/torah than you
>>98006464>Jain Zar could take Russ.In a fight, right?
>>98006495Then you did know the context of the phrase as >>98006484 described it, right? Like that's one of the pretty surface level common christian phrases.
>>98006066Isn't it well known that the Eldar bashers are actually falseflagging Eldar fans drumming up discussion?
>>98006495>torahSo you are a jew.Explains the eternal victim complex.
>>98006501She could take him.
>>98006508Nah, I think they are just very sensitive about how much shit they get from both GW and the wider fan base and it has given them a persecution complex.
>>98006506It’s too deep and important to talk about in this feces pit, let’s stick to hammer.
>>98006508These days that is true of any topic really
>>98006508Never heard that but it'd be funny as fuck if it were true. Why not just talk about their faction? Are they scared of being bullied so much that they bully themselves in advance? Is it a pity thing?
>>98006558Yes they are actually that pathetic
>>98006533>feces pitWait a minute wasn't this the best forum ever just a couple days ago?
>>98006576Even as a feces pit it’s the best online discussion forum.
Is it me or is the marine side of the armageddon box really underwhelming this time around?I'd have gone for it if it was resculpts of tactical, devastators and a rhino instead of the intercessors, erads and speeder.Vanguard are also just so-so and not blinged out enough, and the characters are either not new or easily made by converting a regular chaplain.
>>98006508As an Eldar fag why the fuck would I do that? I don't subscribe to kiddy factionalism. Good models are good models, marine, eldar, tau or whatever. I've lurked this general for years and never seen any evidence there is an "Eldar false flag". If anything I'm pretty sure the PRIMARS ARE KING guy liked to larp as an Eldar fan.
>>98006533>too deep and important>doesn’t know the most basic lessons christ taughtmaybe you should take time off disobeying christ’s teachings and instead read the bible if you’re not going to paint those hellblasters
>>98006558It's just the one guy with the repeated posts about xenos being NPCs, etc. He shows up here and on /v/. He's actually an Eldarfag. No idea why he does it
>>98006603Like I said it’s off topic and you’re far too ignorant to entertain, now piss off.
>>98006599mutantclique is back so might as well save yourself nerves and dip these hours, i know for sure i will
>>98006609>Matthew 5:22>But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.tsk tsk tsk
>>98005727>>98005738Humans have mutated into ogres and rats, at a rate that has created stable populations, on a scale of billions. Some worlds having slightly less sexually dimorphic women is literally beyond your comprehension.
>>9800375611th edition looks fun
>>98006666No.
>>98006666QUADS of satan means it will be bad, so now im not preordering
>>98006659It's not that people don't understand that it might be plausible, we simply don't want it.
>>98006589As a marine fag, yes, it is very fucking underwhelming. I expected them to at least try to change intercessors a bit. I have very little to no hope for the multipart version.Only thing I like is the land speeder, and even then I'll wait for the standalone kit and the possible ravenwing refresh to see if it gets any other fun options.Or I'll buy it off my bro for a good price
Overall faction ranking for the edition by total number of GT wins:>1. Aeldari: 169>2. Necrons: 144>3. Space Marines: 108>4. Chaos Space Marines: 105>5. Astra Militarum: 103>6. Death Guard: 93>7. Orks: 80>8. Adepta Sororitas: 75>9. T'au Empire: 70>10. Chaos Daemons: 64>11. Blood Angels: 64>12. Thousand Sons: 62>13. Imperial Knights: 61>14. Genestealer Cults: 58>15. World Eaters: 57>16. Tyranids: 54>17. Chaos Knights: 49>18. Dark Angels: 48>19. Space Wolves: 45>20. Adeptus Custodes: 45>21. Drukhari: 42>22. Black Templars: 41>23. Leagues of Votann: 39>24. Grey Knights: 35>25. Adeptus Mechanicus: 33>26. Deathwatch: 22>27. Emperor's Children: 18>28. Imperial Agents: 2
>>98006696>>4. Chaos Space Marines: 105Defiler carry
>>98006666Thank you Giga Satan. Will Legion of the Damned finally get a Codex in 11th?
>>98006659>you have elves, dragons and goblins in your medieval battlefield>but suddenly a Honda Civic is too much!Suspension of disbelief is a thing. Its easier to believe some space rat men or space elf than a competent fighting women. Specially after you have personally seen a soldier women being pin down by a fat nerd on a convention.
Should I paint the ork half of the armageddon box as goffs or evil suns? I want to build a gutsmek speedwaagh army but I dunno if I want the regular boyz to look like that…
>>98006690Maybe you do. But half the people screeching in these threads talk about how its crushing their ability to immerse in the setting. Or how females wouldnt be allowed to fight to maintain manpower, which is 100% retarded, because every edition ever has stated that the One thing the imperium never runs out of is bodies.
>>98006666the missions and layouts literally make or break this shitsutno
Female custodes makes sense. These are one off custom made super soldiers.
>>98006696>Tyranids>Less victories than GSC>Less victories than WEWTF, bugbros?
>>98006738this, no sane man would miss out on handcrafted, purpuse-built concubines
>>98006738No it doesn't
>>98006716See this is true retardation. You want guard to be realistic then you complain that someone lost in melee without a gun, which isnt a thing guard would ever give a fuck about as guess what modern militaries fucking dont. And you literally dont address my point about sexual dimorphism. Which I assume you didnt because you are too fucking stupid to understand the words. And it isnt even headcanon. Multiple catachan books mention minor mutations to the planets entire pop of natives. Catachan females, are bigger and stronger than the average IRL human male.
>>98006753why doesnt it?I get saying I dont like it. But how does it not make any sense lol.
>>98006758You watch too many marvel movies anon.There is a reason why women soldiers are an anomaly and not the norm. >And you literally dont address my point about sexual dimorphismHonda Civic
>>98006758>Catachan females, are bigger and stronger than the average IRL human male.But weaker than catachan males and still the only ones that can bear children. There is no reason to not preserve them and throw the men into the meatgrinder instead.
>>98006771You can have a Honda Civic in 40k. 1911 exists in it as do many other contemporary things.
whats the maximum number of actual wolves you can run in space wolves? i had an idea for a druid themed custom chapter.its like what, 6 per veteran squad, plus fen wolf squads are max 10 right? do they have battleline?
>>98006799Not sure if trying to be funny with an old reference or just pretending to not understand.
>>98006738No, anon was just a stupid retcon.
>>98006758>You want guard to be realisticNTA butI blame ForgeWorld for why realism autism is so prevalent in 40k and most likely most concentrated in Imperial Guard fans.ForgeWorld had their studios paint the models to look "realistic" as in use techniques that scale model painters had been using to make their historical tanks look as realistic as possible.Then the ForgeWorld military autists went out and put out tanks that performed "realistic" tasks that "make sense" in the universe of 40k and in real life like the Atlas Recovery tank.It was all good intentions for military autists that like the 40k universe, but the consequences are pretty awful.Even if biological science is true that men are better soldiers than women it isn't a bad thing to just let the fantasy be that women can be just as equal and capable when it comes to anything related to war.
>>98006739>Nids were the first non SM codex and were worse than their index when their book launched>they had to emergency patch them twice to make them actually have rules>The only contender for "best detachment" over invasion fleet got taken out back and shot in the chest (unending swarm)>They only received an actual usable detachment last year >Almost all of their new models sucked cock rules wise and the entire army ended up being the same 4 okay datasheets getting spammed What more did you expect?
>>98006808You're the one using Honda Civic as a rebuttal in a situation where it doesn't work. What else you got? How about putting dragons and elves and magic into a realistic scifi? Oops, those also exist in 40k.
>>98006825Also GSC has like 2 players that drive all their victories. So the average Tournamentfag has no idea how to face them.
There are two sexes in 40kThe sex you have with Eldar womenAnd the sex you have with Tau women
>>98006830So its pretending to not understand.Got it.
>>98006819>Even if biological science is true that men are better soldiers than women it isn't a bad thing to just let the fantasy be that women can be just as equal and capable when it comes to anything related to war>Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence exist>power armor is stated to allow them to carry heavy things>reason why SoB do not need heavy weapons team for their heavy bolters>S3I mean super soldier women in 40k need power armor to level the playing field against regular soldiers.
>>98006836Trvth nvke
>>98006819Considering a lot of IG stuff from 2e onward was based on real life militaries down to making stowage kits, FW adding logistical vehicles and painting stuff in a more realistic style isn't the root of the problem. Even GW made logistical vehicles (like this armoured ammo carrier for Marines). It's just people having more fun with the setting beyond strict codex models.
>>98006838I'm sorry your attempts at rebuttal are poorly executed. Better luck next time.
>>98006851S3 stretches from frail psykers to muscle dudes hip-firing autocannons.
>>98006659Nta but does it make the world more interesting?
For 11th edition I will buy and make a baron with a castigator knight inspired by picrel
>>98006799>1911 exists in it as do many other contemporary things.The 1911 is mechanical perfection when it comes to being a standard ballistic pistol.The same goes for the Colt Revolver.For the assault rifle I'd say the Kalashnikov is perfection.It makes sense for them to be in 40k and still in service even as easily produced hive ganger weapons.>>98006851Most likely an oversight on GW's part, but it is a funny one in a politically incorrect way.>>98006857>Considering a lot of IG stuff from 2e onward was based on real life militaries down to making stowage kits, FW adding logistical vehicles and painting stuff in a more realistic style isn't the root of the problemI did not look at it that way.You got me there.I guess maybe ForgeWorld increased the problem unintentionally?>It's just people having more fun with the setting beyond strict codex models.That may have been what made older GW and FW more interesting than what we term as "nuGW" these days. >>98006871I prefer hip firing HWTs as they look more mobile for advances.Not that I hate the turret HWTs. They look better for holding the line for defended positions. The third party STL maker who makes hip fire positioned heavy weapons gives me a bit of autism because the handle that isn't the trigger is held by a grip that requires a "horizontal fist" instead of how that Bragg minis is holding it.I need to learn to let that slide.
>>98004790I'd be really temped by the Platoon set if the heavy weapon teams were a mix of heavy weapons rather than 3x Lascannons.
>>98006894Duncan made something like that.
>>98006851tabletop stats aren't canon
>>98006696>Imperial Agents>2Impressive
>>98006871I see a man carrying the heavy weapon without the need of a power armor.
>>98006940>BS 5+Yeah I mean...
>>98006811>femstodes were planned so poorly that the first ever mention of them was a post on twitter of all things >femstodes are so manish they might as well just be male custodes but with she/her pronouns>only interesting custodes character to this day is still Valdor Cuckstodes are such a shit faction.
>>98006910>I guess maybe ForgeWorld increased the problem unintentionally?They just catered to a market that existed. Some wanted gritty trench warfare IG, others wanted colourful bayonet charge IG. Nothing wrong with either.>I prefer hip firing HWTs as they look more mobile for advances.RT era IG HWs were shoulder fired like Marine ones. There's also been bunch of HWs with bipods.
>>98006920Fuck why is he so based
>>98006940Are space marine initiates weaker than neophytes because they need power armour to hip-fire heavy weapons?
>use a big centrepiece>it does well - so what? it's MEANT to do well>it does badly - soul crushing>use a bunch of little dudes instead>they do well - this is epic>they do badly - no big deal, they're just some dudes
>>98006980>pretending to not understand things
>>98006931Didn't Folger's whole team have to get tattoos of the inquisitorial rosette because he won with Imperial agents?
>>98006993I'm sorry, did I step on your poorly thought out argument (again)?
>>98007000>insist on pretending to not understand
>>98006851tabletop isnt reflective of the fluff, its a gameplay abstraction. same way rhinos are almost double the size in universe than they are on the tabletop.
>>98006980Anyone strong enough can hip fire heavy weapons.What makes you think power armor marines are less capable than scouts?
>>98007007Greentext some more, it's all you know.
>>98007012Do not bother anon. They are intentionally being dumb.
>>98007012Playing dumb is a core part of their kit.Is why some anon got hang on the Honda Civic part instead of the suspension of disbelief.Discourse was never their intention.
>>98007012>What makes you think power armor marines are less capable than scouts?Because they clearly need power armour to be able to use them, same as SoB, according to anon. You don't see full space marine initiate hip-firing heavy weapons without power armour, only neophytes.
>>98006982I believe in army of little dudes supremacy
>>98007035>they clearly need power armorHow is that "clear"? Do you think marines need power armor to use bolters too?
how much longer do you think the original carnifex and hive tyrant kits have? the warriors?a lot of that shits from the early-mid 00s and the new updated style an details is starting to make the older kits look kinda dated
>>98007035Not what anon said. Also we have space marine models with doing hip firing heavy weapons.Its not anon fault you are a disingenuous twat
>>98007048Depends on whether anon thinks SoB need power armour to use bolters.
>>98004790Feels a little weird for GW to put out Russian influenced sci-fi soldiers given all the events of the special military operation.I thought GW wouldn't do that ever until it was all over.Is it true that the Cadians had some Red Army influence in their lore and design by chance?
>>98007067>year of our lord>4chan user>/tg/ user>not knowing about the strength memeThis explains everything.
>>98007066>Its not anon fault you are a disingenuous twatNta, but that's ironic considering this >>98006940
>>98007075>run out of ideas>"I was merely pretending!"
>>98007066Are you unable to read?
>>98006964>They just catered to a market that existed. Some wanted gritty trench warfare IG, others wanted colourful bayonet charge IG. Nothing wrong with either.Fair enough. You're right.>RT era IG HWs were shoulder fired like Marine onesI remember seeing some of that stuff.I have a feeling those were done away with as pauldrons even for the guard became possibly mandated by GW.But the spectre kill team rocket launcher might be a good counter argument to the above statement.
>>98006819>realism autism is prevalent in 40kIt's not. It was never about realism autism. It's just midwits repeating the mantra they've seen in video/twitter/wiki.Same way people will see a gun with the magazine in the back and scream about how it's retarded nogun bongs who don't know about mah bolt travel when shit like the TKB-022 and others exist.>Forgeworld "realism">it's just some logistics vehicles and upgrades
>>98007091>You don't see full space marine initiate hip-firing heavy weapons without power armour, only neophytes.We do have them. Did you forget about the old space wolves scout? They are full fledge marines in scout armor. For example a hip firing heavy bolter space wolf scout
I'll even add, modern 40k does not have an autism problem, it has a midwit problem.It's the midwit who start shitty arguments they can't back up and derail them when cornered.Midwits will see a guy caring more than him about the fictional universe they both invested time and money into and call him an autist because he can't fathom someone knows the exact details of a miniature.Midwits ruin everything, because they're too dumb to know shit, but not dumb enough to know their place.
>>98007125Anon really giving us an example of the autist problem on full display
>>98007125calling people midwits is midwit behavior
>>98007073russo-ukraine war hysteria is out of fashion because everyone is focused on the fat pedophile’s war on iran.
>>98007136>>98007142Fishing for (you)s is also midwit problem. Not smart enough to participate in the thread, yet not dumb enough to stick to lurking
>>98007073No lol cadians look like starship troopers
>>98007145Hey.Netanyahu is not that fat.
>>98007073>russian influencedI don't think most people associate prussians and cossacks with russians, probably because they don't know what those are.>cadians red army influencevery little, ursula's helmeted head comes to mind
>>98007125Autism
>>98007169Fur hat is Russian.
>>98007169To be fair people think Krieg are german just for the name. When they look more like french troops than anything else. In reality is a mix of random WWI crap, but the thick of it is more french looking than
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>>98005854Bad faith and blind. BAKA my head
>>98004673Honestly the NL trilogy made me feel kind of done with them. They just whine and complain about everything while having zero plan to do anything. Talos tried to do something and actually stand for something for five minutes, but that never went anywhere. They feel like hanging out with moralizing drunks who are going to tell you how the world really works while being the most miserable pricks imaginable. "That's the point". Good for you guys. Tldr; Ruven was based for joining the black legion. NLs suck, BL and WB are the shit. Lorgar is king. Man whines and complains and is insecure but actually makes things happen. If they're bringing back a primarch, I hope it's him.
