Votann Edition>Box Reveal:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/x2allqya/warhammer-40000-armageddon-whats-in-the-box/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Alternative rules:https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Previous Thread:>>98007210>Thread QuestionWhat's your favorite Xenos faction?
>>98010921>What's your favorite Xenos faction?kroot
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>98010921that looks like mantic
>>98010921votann don't even look like that outside the bolter, and even then it's weirdly done
>>98010925do you ever fuckin sleep
Number of Kits for Sale by faction:>Space Marines - 185 kits>Guard - 67 kits>GSC - 67 kits>Eldar - 66 kits>CSM - 59 kits>Orks - 54 kits>Tyranids - 48 kits>C.Demons - 48 kits>Tau - 46 kits>Necrons - 45 kits>Custodes - 41 kits>Sisters - 36 kits>Deathguard - 34 kits>AdMech - 33 kits>TSons - 31 kits>I.Agents - 29 kits>World Eaters - 29 kits>Votann - 23 kits>DEldar - 23 kits>Grey Knights - 22 kits>Emperor's Children - 22 kits>C.Knights - 21 kits>I.Knights - 20 kitsVotann are still one of the smallest ranges in the game and are definitely not a full faction yet.
>>98010921Orks. Closely followed by Dark Eldar. Kroot also have great lore and cool models, but not so much that I'd want to start another horde army.
>>98010921>TQEldar; I just like elves.
What do I think of the new orks?
>>98010921>TQDark Eldar followed closely by Necrons. I love the old crumbling ancient empires. Craftworlds get an honorable mention but the Commorites are just eBay more interesting.
>>98010976>GSC - 67 kitsGSC have 24 units. The store page just lists all the guard kits they can take in one detachment that nobody uses.
>>98010991Yeah, sorry, all the numbers are a bit wonky and I didn't want to individually check each one. Eldar probably has Ynnari Drukhari in it. Space Marines might include Grey Knights. Chaos Demons might have AoS stuff in it. Knights probably lists the same kits multiple times under different names.You get the idea though. The point was just to show Votann are definitely still a small range compared to most of the armies available for the game even after their big second wave.
Where faction focus?
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>>98010921pisses me off the inner circle box doesn't have Watchers.
>>98010978Seriously, James, how much harder would it have been to make this instead of that glorified bang bus?
>>98011004Tyranids today right? They only released the guard one early yesterday because they fucked up and accidentally made the YouTube video upload public like twelve hours early before they switched it back to private. But everyone had already copied the contents everywhere.
>>98010974yes :D
>>98010976
owo owo ugu
>>98011021and they let you build a regular lord of change too, pretty cool.
Of all the Xenos sub races which ones would you say deserve expansion and attention?
>>98010990I don't remember a single instance in lore where necrons and dark eldar go after each other. Bad guy vs. wacky guy seems like a cooler matchup than the Boring Elves but it doesn't seem like deldar or necrons care at all.
>>98011021Congrats on your AoS army anon, hope your LGS allows 40k legends rules
>>98011026I'm happy that you're happy, but that's been a dual kit since release
>>98011013>>98010976Space Marines only seems like such a brutal mogging when you think of them as a single faction which they are not. They're a super faction with five or six different armies under that umbrella. (Let's be real, Ultramarines is a supplement army in all but name.) Now the core codex space marine army is still huge but it's not THAT much bigger than all the other ranges. Filtering by something like Imperial Fists shows they only have 84 kits. Which is still the most but not a crazy amount more than Guard or Eldar or anything.
>>98011021>>98011026Kill yourself retard
I like orks :D>>98010921>TQorks orks orks
>>98011033What kind of shitty store and players don't allow legends rules? kek
>>98011033And i hope you finally enter an lgs
>>98011031DEldar have the problem of not really having good reasons to ever come engage with ANY of the other factions other than because they want to. And mostly what they want to do is raid poorly defended Imperial worlds.
>>98011005SEX WITH JAIN ZAR
>>98010976>votann were a mistakein other news water is wet
>>98011030>from completely random to straight up wrong images or factoids for most of the entriesat least talk about the aliens you do know about
>>98010976they're tied with Dark Eldar, who were a starter faction
>>98011039eldar are 68, and this includes "the detachment nobody uses" (anymore) with ynnari showing in almost 1/3rd of d-eldar range
>>98011030I think one thing that would be interesting would be a race like enoulians allied to tau. all the current races in the empire have reasons to be wary or fight against humanity, but there’s no race yet that has experienced genocide by the imperium of man, and now has a burning hatred of them and is dedicated to bringing destruction to the state of humanity by any means necessary.
>>98011030Kroot
>>98011030Slanni should and I believe will become new faction like Admech, Votann or GSC. Hrud can be one of their units, as apparently they worship them or somethingImperial Agents Xeno equivalent should exists. Functionally it would be Kroot army + friends, usable as allies by Tau, Drukhari, Votann etc. Tallerian Kill Team should go there, just like Sslyths when they return refreshed and other unaligned minor xenos like ZoatsI still crave a proper Grey faction, which Fra'al can be used for.
>>98010987You like them enough to put them up your butt hole.
>>98010921>What's your favorite Xenos faction?OrksI like Eldar and Dark Eldar though
Will we be able to take wrath of the doomed along with lost brethren? Surely they won’t both have the “doomed” tag, right?
>>98010921Greenskinz, Grot specifically.>>98011030>No GrotFuck you and the chart too.
>>98011046Don’t they need to harvest people or tau for biomass to make their clone bodies or something?
>>98011030>Of all the Xenos sub races which ones would you say deserve expansion and attention?None of them.
>>98011085Votann were a good idea badly executedMore dwarfy design elements, more boxy silhouette, more interesting lore, and they could have fit in well
>>98011151No.
>>98011085I will never forgive James for merging MoI wirh shitty dwarfs.
>>98011046>DEldar have the problem of not really having good reasons to ever come engage with ANY of the other factions other than because they want to. And mostly what they want to do is raid poorly defended Imperial worlds.GSC>GSC uprising triggers a dark eldar raiding party to come out of the rapeway and fuck them up, carrying them and the imperials off into the dark city to be crushed into exquisite powders or be used as gladiators and slavesTyranids>a haemonculus has taken a queer fascination with grafting tyranid bits to himself and interacting with the hivemind for its pleasure and drags a hive fleet down to a world with no biomass to starve the nids into submission and harvest their delicious bitsTau>fuck em an fuck their world, lure them into negotiations by pretending to be exodites from a near maiden world, then harvest them for the lulzKroot>captured with the tau, force them to fight in the arena for your pleasure, in fact feed them tau meat to enrage and disgrace themchaos space marines>fuck em>fuck all the variants and sub armies toospace marines and most imperials>you know why this is happeningnecrons>wacky pharoah guy says the humans on his world are under his protection or something, dark eldar disagree and posit that they might somehow harvest the power or even souls of a c'tan shard as a grand delicacyeldar>fuck emharlequins>they got a book that vect wants and won't hand it overCorsairs>falling out over the loot from a piratical raidOrks>screaming green retards are useful slavesDark eldar are the best antagonist in the setting because fuck youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rWCeo6Xadw
>>98010976>>Space Marines - 185 kitsnow remove the characters
>>98011169Is significantly more of their range made up of characters than the others? Because CSM is like half characters too.
>>98011169why?
>>98011053Sexo, mucho sexo señorita. Ayayay andale andale
>>98011169Disgusting.
>>98010921>TQGSC/nids, kroot second.
>>98011163These are fitting for votann though
>>98011030Demiurg would be nice to see expanded. Would give Leagues another potentially cool color scheme for their units.
>>98011173
>>98011169>all these weapon-specific squad types when Devastator squads can fulfill the same jobs with just one box
>>98011037I know it's a dual kit on its own but it's my first big ass box so I wasn't sure if the sprues were the exact same, and it was described as Kairos everywhere.
>>98011195Understandably, have a nice day.
>>98011030Army of Sslyth+Zoat? Reptiles in space
>>98011030Slaugth are cool but I feel like GW would be more likely to package them as a 30k expansion if they did anything with them and the rangda.All the dark eldar auxiliaries should have plastic releases as a new court, and give rules so you can mix and match to make 4 ssylth courts so I can buy four boxes and scalp the 12 extra models to idiots.Tarellians+Barghesi could be a cool kill team aligned with chaos and tau.Zoats are coming back, period, for kill team. Same.k'nib could be a cool weird ally for the eldar.>thraxiansIs this invincible or something?All those 'fledging empires' are just tau/kroot/vespids+I would also say Vespids should get some actual shit. I WOULD SAY Q'orl since they're an actual galactic power, but since they haven't been officially mentioned in 20 years they're probably dead, so give me a Vespid Swarm Leader and a Vespid Sting Tank and split the Vespid team into melee and guns so I can do a little Krootlike thing.Nicassar would also be cool. Thinking about one of those Lotr Bears that look all fucked up as a proxy Nicassar to just hang out with Kroot, if I ever make a Kroot army. I think Tau are gay, of course. Demiurg are literally just Votann so just let Tau use some Votann.>SlaanBring back the rules that let you upgrade lizardmen with Guns adn run them as slaan like in Necron 3e codex. Yu'vath is like Q'orl (apostropes) and I wish they got some buildup but GW seems to hate them.Loxatl is another 1-off that should be Dark Eldar allies.Bring back my niggas the jokaero.Enslavers are not aliens they're closer to daemons. Have the dark eldar capture one and use it to fuck up psykers.>HrudIronically this one has the most 'potential' for its own army since there are multiple 'hrud' types including the rat and are worshipers of the god known as Qah, so naturally you can throw the Umbra in as allies/objects of veneration. Hrud also weirdly get mentioned as a major antagonist, despite being not on the tabletop.
>>98011030sslyth but thats mostly because they touch on two bases I like (dark eldar and snake people)
>>98011202>Reptiles in SpaceYou mean lizardmen?
>>98011030I like the Hrud because they're true aliens, not a fantasy race and not an anthropomorphised animal. Also they have weird scary time powers and that's cool.
>>98011173You can check there, out of 120 actual kits only 47 are units, and 11 of those are some special chapter's reskin of another unit, and over half of the rest are some other unit with a different gun
>>98011210>hrud aren't a fantasy raceThey are ratmen. So no, they will never be added.
>>98011169where scouts?
>>98011190It would make sense as, like, one League tried to solve their genetic problems by integrating alien DNA and it made them a little weird
>>98010976I keep seeing people say that Space Marines especially Ultramarines are the Mary Sue faction but it's not true. The Mary Sue faction are the Necrons. You all know it to be true.>You see Necrons can't be defeated as they're super, super old and have super advanced tech that was able to subdue StarGods so they're achskully completely unkillable because they can simply rematerialise in if you kill them also they can reanimate and necrodermis which means they can reform so...they're unkillable check mate!>Also...Also!..Also! they have this super duper space weapon that is like a map, but a map of all the stars of the galaxy and they can blow up entire stars if they want to just by using this map! they are so super duper stronk!
>>98011220in what way does a hrud look like a rat?
>>98011224"Mary sue" doesn't just mean "overpowered".
>>98011224Don't forget the Tyranids ignore them so even everyone else gets wiped out the Necrons still rule the galaxy.
>>98011224The celestial orrery is the only real wankfest in their faction, the rest is easily shown to have its limits.
>>98011220
>>98011237Kek
>>98011030Assuming we are talking lore and not the very dumb idea of trying to do a full tabletop faction, I'd like to learn more about the Khrave.
>>98011210The time e powers guarantee they will not be added to the table top. Armies like Guard and Tau would just die form being near them and I don't think James could come up with viable balanced rules for dealing with their time fields.
>>98010976I like the theme of the votaan. A neo-corporate entity relying on an every expanding inefficient excel spreadsheet as their de-facto God sounds 40k.Unfortunately, the models give me AEUAEU JOHN MADDEN vibes.
>>98011175Spanish I can actually read.
These bioelectrical weapons became highly prized by the Imperium because they utilised charge cells and capacitators that were beyond the capabilities of the Adeptus Mechanicus to manufacture.One of the Xenarch's most notable weapons is the Xenarch death-arc, a rifle-sized weapon that unleashes a series of arcing bolts of lightning and then one massive current of electrical energy to finish off the target once they have already been struck.There was overall very little contact between the Imperium and the Xenarch empire located somewhere out on the rim of the galactic north.In 989.M41, Marshal Helbrecht of the Black Templars Chapter was responsible for the final subjugation of the Xenarch present in the Sigilare Nebula.>the imperium explicitly doesn't come into contact with the xenarch unless actively going into the halo stars hellzone to fuck with them
>>98011113plot twist- it's a futanari
>>98011005I do this to my wife and she has the same reaction.
>>98011259
>>98011122tau and eldar have literally had billions of their people exterminated by humans, they just kind of suck and don't make a huge deal about it.
>>98011245>at the start of each turn, roll a D3 for each enemy unit within 6" of one or more units with the ENTROPIC keyword, on a 2+, that enemy unit suffers that many mortal woundsso scary
>>98011259I just assumed the bulge was huge pussy lips from centuries of use.
>>98011122>but there’s no race yet that has experienced genocide by the imperium of man, and now has a burning hatred of them and is dedicated to bringing destruction to the state of humanity by any means necessary.tarellians
>>98011222>>98011190What votann need is a terrain piece with a giant votann head
>>98011231I'll add to that the list of bullshit that is the Necrons.
>>98011148greenskin subrace, would be like adding exodites or chaos eldar to the chart.
>>98011278that would look better if the face was painted like a hologram or a fluid mass of nanomachines instead or a rocky statue, that way it would justify better the tacky cigar
>>98011272Did I be very useful for multicharges.
>>98011231Necrons won't get their mortal forms back if the nids accomplish their goals. They'll be robutts forever.
>>98011282or like adding races already under the tau and dark eldaroh wait
>>98011247I like their models, I get "tech built to survive a bomb" vibes
>>98011292>literally not able to tell the difference between -alien race- and -tau, fire caste- and why that kind of subrace would not be listedAre all grotfags so retarded?
>>98011259That's even gayer.
so rumor is new Battlesuits next edition.GW has gotten so much better at designing robots since the old Battlesuit kit was rolled out 25 years ago, new Battlesuits could be insanely sick
>>98010921Orks. They’re a great and classic barbarians at the gate kind of faction. I wish they had more range. I wish they were more cyber techno-barbarians rather than mechanical techo-barbarians in theme but with the same ad-hoc on the fly feel to their tech where nothing is standard.
>>98011300you listed demiurgs, and those are just a human subraceyou also added two pics of slann and two pics of squats and mistook a khrave for some other shit amongst the other inconsistencies
>>98011259>>98011113theres no tits, its literally just a twink with long hair bros. boys cant be hot too dudes.
>>98011113Repulsive, can't believe this shit gets left up and random model posts are removed.
>>98011330>RandomFuck off decalpedo
>>98011330Fuck off mutant.
>>98011287Only some of that Necrons want their living bodies back.
>>98011324>too dumb to realize I'm not the person who posted the image>too dumb to realize whoever posted that thought tht demiurg was a separate alien race (the old lore)>still shitting your pants and crying about your mascot character race
>>98011330KYS decalmutant
>>98011348Yeah, it's only few necron lords that want it.Rest of the populace is entirely mindless and don't even have souls anymore.
>>98011030Need to be updated with the new tallerian, votanns and barghesi.>>98011190Demiurg are votann, that's why some of them have the craggly skin
>>98011353>>98011343>>98011339How do you know that's who you think it is?
>>98011325could just be a flat girl with a dick.
>>98011375because they are terminally online freaks.
>>98011350>knows the image is wrong and inconsistent >defends it nonetheless and insults anyone expecting betterway to go, cucko
>>98011375Because he hates eldar and types like a cartoon villain
>>98011163>merging men of iron with men of stonesThey should have done like eldars and let you run both or separate
>>98011324Nigger, the chart says MINOR 40k races, I'm sorry you don't feel like a special snowflake because Orks aren't a minor race but if you feel that way maybe they should be squatted after everyone paypigs on the new sculpts.
>>98011379>girl with a dick.
>>98011330kill yourself you redditor faggot
>>98011392Just remember I'm the primary and you're the nomodels.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98011375Because he can't help but bring up gay shit he does and try and brush it off as normal.
>>98011406primary retard of this general, I agree
>>98011390both kroots and demiurgs have more kits and representation than grots have ever had
>>98011424Good.
>>98011391>>98011406what other thread are you shitposting in?
>>98011417Im the one pointing out the gay shit someone else posted you fat idiot.
>>98011311I love mechs but theres something about the tau ones I don't like
>>98011300that poster in particular is a lost cause, hes in every thread wanting a grot army. havent seen any models posted by said grot enthusiast yet
>>98011432Lol, you looked at something gay, fag.
>>98011437They're a bit blocky and I find the small heads kinda stoopid lookin.
>>98011440You were almost certainly born prematurely and underdeveloped.
there, stop complaining that your scrimblo bimblo glup shitto regiment doesn't get support, guardchuds.
>>98011424Grots are walking cumrags, they're not their own race.
>>98011443meant for >>98011432
>>98011194>with just one box>James starts foaming at the mouth
>>98011444>scrimblo bimblo glup shitto
>>98010921Females are what ruined Votann and if the models came with only bearded male heads I feel like they would get far less hate here.
>>98011444I love that the term glub shitto exists.It's a perfect term to describe for a "literally who?" retard character/thing that nobody cares about.
>>98011468what if they came with bearded female heads
>>98011444>support>it's the same metal sculpt from 20+ years ago sold at a premium
>>98011443Maybe, but I am certain that your crack whore of a mother drank and smoked while your were still cooking.
>>98011311As long as they aren't shaped like strawberries on legs, it'll be an improvement.
>>98011479How about we try and keep things on topic today okay? Thanks..
>>98011478Say "Thank you".
>>98011462you do not belong
>>98011456>heavy bolters>missile launchers>lascannons>grav cannons>plasma cannons>multi-meltasGranted you have to buy repeats to kit a full squad of just one weapon, but I am a little surprised that Gravis is getting a repeat with heavy bolter-esque fuccbois.
>>98011486
>>98011444>scrimblo bimblo glup shitto regimentThis term does not apply to anything that has actual fucking models you complete retard secondary. It's for the random nobody outfits only mentioned in lore.
>>98011486Ok, stop talking about fag shit and getting banned and I won't have to bring up your slaaneshi cultist reject of a mother :D
>tfw havent painted anything in 2 weeks
A certain chinese reseller has the celestians for 20 bucks a kit and I am doing everything in my power not by 3 of them and have them just sit on my shelf for 2 years.
>>98011516>2 weeksit's been 4 months for me
>>98011487I'd rather pay 5k for someone to redo all the miniatures individually to modern standards than pay for overpriced shit from a billion pound company
>>98011511I don't know why I expected reddit of all places to show some backbone, w/e who cares stop posting it.
>>98011487"Thank you for nothing, now die"
>>98011521>only needs one>so he's going to spend AHHHHHHHHHHWHY DID I SELL IT FOR ONLY 75 BUCKS WHEN IDIOTS ARE PAYING 120
>>98011549You are mentally ill lol.
>>98011560Can you fuck off already you bored little gremlin?
>>98011567>>98011549
>>98011567*Sad awoo*
>>98011511>>98011577He in fact could not handle it.
>>98011577How are these posts on topic in any way?
I wish mods would nuke both the lolcow and the milkers.
>still no nid faction focusDead factionDead editionDead game
>predator is rumored to get squatted>joytoy releases predator toyPlease let them be squatted, it would be so fucking funny
>>98011590Except Im not doing anything, they are just posting random reddit comments to derail.
>>98011594Don't you like everything taking weeks and weeks just for a few crumbs of meaningful news? Sure love how the game is handled lately.
>500 Worlds: Titus>The Maelstrom: Lair of the Tyrant>Eye of Terror: Reign of Iron>Armageddon: The Return of YarrickWere they good? How do they stack up against Arks of Omen, Psychic Awakening, and Gathering Storm?
>>98011594Turn where the single worst addition to the game. They have been hideously overpowered dating all the way back to 3rd edition.
Isn't it the second time vostroyans get a MtO?
>>98011610Is time for an update.
>>98011553I mean 70 bucks for three kits is better than 120 for one thats worth 40, no?Even if its resin. And sisters make AMAZING kitbash fodder.
>>98011615Sorry, the Steel Legion folks cried hard enough that they got moved up in the timeline.Vostroyans can't get anything new until the war is over. Same with Kislev.
>>98011604Tyranids have been a <40% win rate faction for longer than they've been a >50% one
>>98011594Baal was a huge focus on nids, and they are consistently portrayed as galaxy ending threat. Unless you mean like... making them overpowered in game. In which case who tf cares whats overpowered or not just use the army you like the most.
>>98011553the insidiants went up for sale already?FUCK
>>98011615They'll rape them to bits>>98011620>mad he can't cry hard enoughDon't be jealous, they're gonna look fucking ass
>>98011622Back when rending was autowound one 6 to hit i remember seeing multiple armies of genestealer spam and I rarely seen those players lose a game.
>>98011516could be worse, you could be painting the same three models for two weeks.
>>98011627I just want to see my new rules, man, I don't care if they're good>Baal was a huge focus on nidsBaal is the biggest example of a fumbled bag of storytelling in modern GW history, the entire conflict got relosolvd with "and then the nids disappeared because of chaos or something and guilliman also showed up with 500 morbillion titans and also an entire legions worth of primaris reinforcements lol"I don't mind the nids ultimately losing (they were always going to) but the ending of Baal is actually insulting to both them and the BA
>>98011577KEK so do they just keep him around as a joke or what, even the other wolffags hate him.
Genestealers feel hamfisted into the nids and should have always just been their own weird thing>aliens who fuck humans and take over from within>aliens from without who eat you and recycle you
>>98011660Nta but he got banned a while ago, this is a falseflag
>>98011604>Nids>Hideously overpowered since 3rdWhat the hell kind of local meta have you been playing in? Did you forget during the entirety of 6th and 7th really the only seni-viable build for nids was spamming as many twin devourer flyrants, hell even in 10th they've still found ways to struggle against the rest of the power crept codexes.
>>98011660
>>98011667>NTAlmaoYou admitted to making a new account not too long ago nigger, nobody is falling for that
>>98011620>Vostroyans can't get anything new until the war is over. Same with Kislev.how the fuck has this stupid war been going on for 4 years already. It seemed like it was going to end in 2023 or 2024 and then it just kept going. Fucking stupid shit.
>>98011671Alan is honestly the perfect character to represent that retard.
>>98011659Blood angels are supposed to suck and Tyrannic war vets are one of like three things actually 'unique' to the ultramarines that makes them not totally generic roman blue good guys.
>>98011169When will White Scars, Iron Hands, Ravenguard, Deathwatch, Salamanders, and Imperial fists get love?
>>98011665You have genestealer cults as an army and can play tyranids perfectly without fielding any genestealers.The cults calling for alien invaders is a good connection between the two and it would be weird if the xenomorphs faction couldn't field the xenomorph ripoff.
>>98011668My local meta consists of:5 Marines4 Orks3 Guard3 Tyranid2 Necron1 Eldar1 Dark Eldar1 Tau
>>98011673That's not me you idiot, I don't know what he's talking about. I already said its my account.
>>98011673>t. lolcow / lolcow milkerlast (you)
>>98011444>Bro just pay 800 bucks you cant complain anymore
>most sang guard relics were lost during the devastation of Baal >11e starter set implies despite these loses Bangles still have access to older equipment mks What do you think of swapping the tacticus jump pack on sanguinary guard with “relic” mkvi jump packs to give them more sense of prestige?
>>98011684>xenomorph ripoff.I do not remember the xenomorph being a fat bastard who fucks cute anime girls to make lots of ugly mutants with them, I remember it being a sleek chestburster that laid eggs in your tummy to make more of its kind. Seems like "ripoff" means "not really similar but okay" nowadays.
>>98011668Nids historically have been polar, almost never really being "mid">2ndDoesn't matter everything both sucked and was overpowered>3rd and 4thExcellent, top tier armies especially in 4th>5thHorrendous outside of one hyper specific Doom of Malantai build that folded to a single krak missile>6th and 7thAs stated, horrible outside of the flying circus which folded against anything that held objectives>8thWent from horrendously overpowered with hive guard spam to low tier 45% win rate when they got gutted>9thOne of the most powerful codexes ever printed, needed emergency patched to not have an eldar-tier win rate>10thThe first "mid" edition for the nids and even that still tends to hover around the lower end of an "acceptable" win rate
>>98011699I think anything to customise your army and make them your own is a good idea.
>>98011682deathwatch will get a dedicated terminators kit and a primaris hero in parallel with astartes2, otherwise they'll stay as a thing within imperial agentsthere are no plans for white scars, raven guard and iron hands, gw expects you to be content with the generic marine kits and the few special characters imperial fists will be rolled together with their successors in a black templar codex that expands to accomodate the others the moment dorn is to return after russsalamanders are being considered for a full scale fleshing out with a range of models akin to the space wolves and their returned primarch, but not soon
>>98011691anyone who uses terminology like "lolcow" and the like are complete and total losers.
>>98011699I think the current sang kit is something I'd only use to make vets and I'd rather get good at sculpting than use them.As for the powerpack, picrel + wings optional
>>98011702They were sued over 4th edition tyranids, and for a lot of cash.
>>98011471a vtuber I was watching used it when she was playing lego star wars
>>98011702>I remember it being a sleek chestburster that laid eggs in your tummy to make more of its kindthat's genestealers too
>>98011715I believe the first ridley scott lawsuit actually happened because of the 2nd edition Hormagaunts
>>98011716>a vtuber I was watching
>>98011715>>98011718This is the earliest Genestealer patriarch model and the art is from 1989 please tell me how this is similar to any kind of xenomorph my obnoxious "everything 40k has came from dune!" anigos.
>>98011715>They were suedSource?
>>98011659I thought the nids got a good showing and made both sides look cool. Whole marine chapters got devoured heroically. It was pretty peak.
>>98011718>THE GMSo non-canon rpgslop, not sure why I even replied since you are clearly retarded.
Mentally prepping for my army to get squatted again when the 11th edition ruleset drops.
>>98011727Have you read the text in the image?
>>98011727that patriarch is so fucking cool
>>98011712I think I like these more than cannibalizing a mkvi assault squad for their jump packs. I also think I prefer sanguinary guard without wings at this point
>>98011725
>>98011735What book do you think that is?
>>98011737You're not getting squatted anon! You're just getting rolled into the Agents codex
>>98011729It was cool and they did both get to look coolBaal is great if you ignore everything even tangential to the great rift
>>98011665>Genestealers feel hamfisted into the nidsNot at all, they are extremely niddy, you are fuckin dumb
>>98011750AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>98011725Weren't you the one posting furry porn?
>>98011703Cheers for the right up, I missed out on most of 4th so my main experience with nids was between 5-7th were it was a general struggle to build a neutered list against my opponents so that we could have a close game.Most of my local nid players either left or changed armies after Index hammer in 8th so I completely missed actually playing against 9th ed nids, and now these days it kinda feels like I'm back to playing against nids back in 5-7th Ed where I'm actively helping my nid player friends try and build more powerful lists because the codex was an edition starte.
>>98011743Regardless the wings should be separate for transport
>>98011690>I already said its my account.Hey you know what I'm genuinely curious here - how are you not ashamed to show your face here after pulling that shit?
>>98011760No but you knew that.
>>98011716which vtuber?
>>98011739hmmm yes vampires in space, very very Alien vs. predator, every single thing forever that is an alien that fucks human women is the Alien, xenomorphs literally own this concept.
>>98011767So was it porn but not furry or was it furry but not porn?
>>98011702In the Rogue Trader core book genestealers implanted an embryo that bursts out of you. They were literally just a xenomorph expy.The whole cults thing with the inbreeding hybrids emerged after space hulk, and that was also when genestealer had been visually redesigned to look more like Tyranids, because internally it had already been decided that they were Tyranids and it was hinted at in the space hulk lore but not fully revealed until it was time for the Tyranid models to come out.There was literally never, ever a point that Genestealers had cults but were not Tyranids.
>>98011749>staying on topic when arguing about genestealer cults challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
>>98011760Don't be silly anon, that was merely a reaction image that he picked up from a random forum that be just decided to browse one day that only had furry porn reaction images
>>98011771>vampireRead, nigga, read.
>>98011770wouldn't you like to know
>>98011735Holy fucking NEWFAG ahahah
>today's warfare is dumber and dumber soldiers using high tech smart weapons.>You just hold the weapon in the right direction and the gun does the restThis is post about the mechanicus
>>98011779did you reply to the wrong post or something?
>>98011702>a fat bastard who fucks cute anime girls to make lots of ugly mutants with themYou do understand that this is not how the Patriarch EVER worked at any point even once, right? It does not have sex in any iteration of the lore.
>>98011764people with the chris chan type of autism only grow more powerful with negative attention.
>>98011780It was literally a laughing wolf, I don't even understand how it was sexual for you pervs.
>>98011798>It was literally a laughing wolfan anthropomorphic wolf with boobs and clearly cropped nakedness that barely hid the futa cock, you sick retard
>>98011797This. But everytime someone points that out you got the retards crying>but we're just having fun!!>well I'm not doing anything wrong>I'm just one amongst many, I might as well have funMake the mention of it a bannable offense, that'd be a first step.
I would like men of iron as a faction.
>>98011786Cute, I'll have to check her out because the last time someone posted a smol chuubas it was lemi and she was very cute.Anyway, what army do you collect?
>>98011785>heh genestealer cults aren't like xenomorphs>well, what aobut 1986Oh so chaos isn't a thing, space marines and space nuns exist on basically the same level and the emperor is a guy in a big vat and custodes are shirtless?Wow I guess if -the stuff we're actually debating- doesn't exist, then you're right.But that's not what we're arguing, so you're wrong and what's worse is you're not capable of even staying on topic in the argument you started.>>98011789You're 19 years old and brown, sit down.
>>98011767So you WERE the one posting the furry porn.
>>98011810I want men with hands of iron instead
>>98011603I think I like them morePsychic Awakening was so boring I don't remember it even
>>98011796Yes it is and it's fucking based.
>>98011807you're adding things from your own personal repertoire you cringe weirdo.
>>98011816How about a box of made with hands of iron fighting men of iron?
>>98010921luv me eldar, simple as.
>>98011809Ive long said it should be a bannable offense to utter any version of Decal____ name calling or "lolcow" trash.
>>98011813>You're 19 years old and brown, sit down.I'm in my 30s and so white I had family on the Mayflower and I work as a historian researching colonial America and the Revolutionary War.You are some Gen Z nobody who discovered 40k through video games.
>>98011813>the direct xenomorph ripoff is no longer a xenomorph ripoff because some time passed>by the way let me obsess over a 40 years old design and my animae rapes comics for how they should be instead!
>>98011809>>98011836you could always go back to r*ddit if you don't like being mocked
>>98011852or you could just shut up and paint your first model instead of coming here to cause trouble.
>>98011858you haven't painted anything in over 9 months and tried to get reddit to raid us over the collageyou need to go back
>>98011858you literally tried to get reddit to raid this thread you fucking obnoxious cretin, it's beyond me how you still don't get the message that you're not wanted here
>>98011862>>98011859Defending the SWs is not that same as a raid meant to disrupt.
>>98011865"I think some of us should head over and defend our honor"that is trying to organize a raidsecond time you've tried and failed to do this to this general btw
>>98011813genestealers are still very much one of the most blatant xenomorphs expies in fiction
>>98011867easily the worst one to date, lots of paintlets.
>>98011809make it a warning for calling him a faggot or mutant and rangeban his IP and we would heal. A small amount of push back against his autism is necessary to signal he isn't tolerated and is universally despised and the jannies can clean it up along with his shitposting.
>>98011871Nothing happened, the redditors were as weak and ineffective as ever.
>>98011880doesn't mean you didn't try to do it you braindead fucking furfag
>>98011879>>98011879>make it a warning for calling him a faggot or mutantJust leave it at that.
>>98011865I thought this general was being harsh on you at first, but this is extremely delusional anon. I think you’ll be happier if you drop this and return to trying to maintain some sense of anonymity. Maybe try painting new models and taking photos of them with a different backdrop when you post here.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/pqhie6ax/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tyranids/Nid focus is up, that one anon can stop complaining
>>98011890I didn't ask for your help, talk shop or leave.
you don’t have to engage with or discuss namefags. you can just post models and talk about the game. I was more excited about the detachment combining system before they started revealing them. >speeder detachment: very narrow buff that affect the turn 1 deployment of 4 datasheets, 3 of which are just wargear variants of 1 model. I really hope this is not the standard for the 1 point detachments game wide
>>98011899Finding out all of these are 1DP is pretty cool. Need to see what combos we can make.
>>98011899>Remember, in a 2,000 point Strike Force-sized game, you’ll get three Detachment Points. This means you could take all three of these new detachments together, or bolt one onto many of your existing Codex detachments (most of which are 2DP) to create all sorts of powerful and thematic combinations.Gladius going to be 3DP
>>98011901Nta but please go back to r/spacewolves. You have no peers or peeps here. The last collage proved that.
>>98011911>you don’t have to engage with or discuss namefags. you can just post models and talk about the game
>>98011899>CSM and chaos daemons tomorrowi'm scared, bros
>>98011901>talk shopPretty brave words for a coffee stainer who fakes games.
>>98011899>tomorrow is Chaos Marines AND Chaos DaemonsDaemons are getting squatted confirmed, just gonna be detachments in the CSM codex
>>98011810best you'll get is a subfaction of ironkin for votann
>>98011927None of what you just said is true but hey good luck to ya, got any games planned you nofrens loser?
>>98011923fuck off, you don't belong
>>98010921>Votann>no actual cool robots>no actual cool tankswasted
>>98010921>Tq Tie between The Hrud and the Slaugth if minor xenos count
>>98011928it's better that way
>>98011874I like that the collage posts everyone's models, it's not about who's the best painter, it's just a fun monthly challenge that everyone* can join in no matter their painting level.*Everyone expect sloppers
>>98011936Lmao, Strong words said by the "man" who is shunned by the Reddit hugbox.
>>98011947Agreed, about time.
>>98011867>LIMITED
>>98011899>Nerfed WBO>Made it 1 DPIt is... Acceptable.
>>98011899Oshit CSM *and* Daemons? What could it mean?
>>98011956Daemons are getting legended. They don't mean actual daemons.
>>98011948You don't have to post your diary submissions here creep.
>>98011959Actually it's a captain's log.
how popular are these action figures? just saw a post about some guys nephew busting his. I thought most people in this fandom are in it for the painting.
>>98011945you can get your space dwarf tanks elsewhere
>>98011955What did they nerf?
>>98011956>>98011926Probably going to reveal 1point detachments for each branch of daemons, making them a CSM thing and quietly squatting the army itself.
>>98011973The 5++ doesn't get extended to gaunts/gargoyles that primes can be attached to anymore
>>98011971kek I saw that post too, I mean they are cool but I can't see myself ever owning one.
>>98011946We should’ve gotten hrud as a faction by now
>>98011983It reminds me of the big roach from MIB the first one.
>>98011911I like to think of it as the 2 point detachments more broadly affecting your army and the 1 point detachments allowing you to specialize further and focus on a unit core to your list.
>>98011983there are no good ideas or designs for hrud units other than the basic hunched ragged thing with a rifle, and that's something gw already does with admech, ash wasters and eventually with darkmek
>>98011974Kek you wish, I bet it will be a single Be'lakor detachment for all daemons and that's it.
>>98011971>I thought most people in this fandom are in it for the painting.This has to be bait
>>98011737bruh just run em as marinestheir stupid gimmick is so easy to stop
>>98011971The people with the action figures are not the people with the models.It's funko pop collectors and casual secondaries.
>>98011971You can enjoy two things at once, for some autists this is a hard concept.
>>98011992>you could have a wide variety of shapes and sizes of hrud given that we have both the skaven-like hrud and the swamp monster cephalopod hrud that are both canon>umbra are heavily implied to shards of the Hrud’s god, Qah, so they should be fighting alongside the hrud >we get all those vague descriptions of the Hrud’s bio mechanical armor and technology in that one Iron warriors novel>GW can just make up new stuff for themThere’s more than enough to work with to make an interesting model range for them
no way
>>98011994>Be'lakor detachment for all daemons and that's it.It would make sense of they made the word bearers detachment for csm the one dedicated to a mixture of demons with undivided marines.While the god legions each get their own god-specific demons detachment and the other chaos warbands get no demon at all because gw is writing them all to be in denial about their chaos faggotry
>>98011971The figures are fine, they're not the greatest toys ever but they are McFarlane so the sculpts are generally good.
>>98011971I’ve gotten some of the McFarlane figures as gifts from relatives before, and they’re neat enough for what they are at that price point. I have no experience with the joytoys but they look decent enough where I might consider getting a emps children or night lords marine if they ever come out with one
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/pqhie6ax/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tyranids/ITS OUT
>>98012033that's a joytoy, the mcfarlane ones SUCK
>>98012023>>you could have a wide variety of shapes and sizes of hrud given that we have both the skaven-like hrud and the swamp monster cephalopod hrud that are both canonthe only distinction between the "rat-like" hruds and the other kind of hruds is that the first has a rat-like tail, otherwise they are the same identical hunched form covered in rags and using rifles, same size toowhere the hell are you even getting the cephalopod bullshit?>>we get all those vague descriptions of the Hrud’s bio mechanical armor and technology in that one Iron warriors novelno, we don't, we got no actual description
Sick
>>98011932Can't lie I never saw those nor paid any attention to the votann since I just came back from a 6 year break. Fisher price sword and sheath aside these models actually look great
>>98012046Hopefully more people realise they can do chrome nids
>>98012046holy shit that looks cool
>>98011867Which one is your favorite, 40kg?
>>98012046Damn that rattlesnake style is kino-esque
>>98012046NOOO DELETE THIS MY /V/ERMIN DOOMERISM INSISTED THIS MODEL SUCKED BECAUSE IT COMES WITH MANDATORY IMPERIAL TERRAIN NOOOOOO
>>98012061buddy its a week old, we've moved on from the paintlet medley.
>>98012061Other than mine, it's the ork looking the invictor
>>98012055>fleshy, chitinous alien bio-armor>paint it like regular metal armor with skin tone underneathHopefully not.
The Vindicator is calling me for some reason
>>98012075
>>98012055>>98012046these are genuinely awful paint jobs, as are the rest in that article. Why would they post this?
>>98012061the malevolent pilethe deathwatch bifurcating the yiffthe literal award winning genestealerthe looted invictor
>>98012075>weyou're not part of this thread and never will be you autistic nigger
>>98012039You think there's really someone out there spamming Norns?
>>98012089>smoothly freehanded rattlesnake pattern is actually le badly paintedtrying too hard
>>98012055>>98012079There's precedent, shiny beetles exist
>>98012101I used to smash the shiny beetles as a child, I thought they contained gold.
>>98012079>can't have metallic looking bugsSince when?
>>98012039Nids nids nids
>>98012046>>98012055This is a lot of red terrors.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l4ao9v9p/community-painting-the-red-terror-burrows-into-our-hearts/
>>98012089post minis
>>98012101Yeah, the pic shown here >>98012055 is generic iron or steel shit for the chitin part. Either make it look like a cool iridescent shiny bug or don't bother.
So fantasy old world orcs can be easily converted into choppa boys with a bit of sprue and a tip of a straw for a barrel for the pistol.Something around 540 bucks for all 240 boys(boys+snaggas) if you scroll enough pages of ebay. Is green tide any good though?
>>98012075You don't belong
>>98012095You just know he probably howls and lets out big WOLF tears when he reads posts like yours.No crocodile tears for that "son" of Russ. Lmao.
>>98012113It is literally iridescent green on that Red Terror you stupid blind fuck lmao
>>98012111>the red terror>its not red
>>98012055>Tactical Roman-Greco ruins
>>98012124stop laughing at your own stupid drivel you retard.
>>98012113>Either make it look like a cool iridescent shiny bug but he did
>>98012113>generic iron or steelAre you fucking bling?
>>98012125>iridescent greenAh yes, I see the other colours now besides a basic bitch dark green with a bit of shine to it now...oh wait. Do you even know what iridescent means?
>>98012131>>98012132I am partially color blind to certain greens and browns.
>>98012133sorry about your colour blindness
>>98012133You are so retarded it hurts
>>98012043>"The aliens, previously stealthy ambush fighters, now came at them en masse. They deployed larger weapons, and warriors in suits of scabrous living armour, and strange things that may have been machine or flesh or both.">"The cannons turned from the vehicle onto the legionaries, ripping them to shreds as parts of them were displaced in time. Warriors fell, fused with the remains of others as they were shunted thousandths of a second along their own time stream and out of synchronicity with the planet’s motion. Screeching hrud warriors appeared from folds in the air, each wielding twinned blades of light that smoked with entropic dissolution. They flickered and leapt from place to place, the munitions poured in their direction hitting naught but thin air, or wasted by the beings’ native time fields before they could detonate.">"Weapons fell to pieces as they encountered hrud blades. Warriors speared by unearthly swords exploded, their bodies forced into impossible shapes. Others aged backwards, flushed with vigour for a second, before dying in agony as their bodies gorily rejected their implants.">"More hrud advanced from the shimmering curtain, and these were all of the soldier-caste. Strange lights surrounded them, and odd, flexible-limbed walkers staggered in the midst of their throng. Half of these bore strange, bulbous cannons, and they advanced to range and set themselves squarely into the ground, opening fire not many metres from the edge of the light curtain.">"The migration ships came next, weird agglomerations of plated fungal matter, so far as could be discerned through their null-time blind shields. Hundreds of these slipped through the Legion picket fleets ringing the subsector."This is their tech from the pre heresy era so things could be different in the 41st millennium
>>98012122
>>98011718>Genestealers are not necessarily evil or stupid, cross-humans will have many human traits, may socialise with humans, and may even help humans in some circumstancesReverse Avatar where the genestealers are taught how to love by Hive Scum inc.
>>98011971>I thought most people in this fandom are in it for the painting.it's not this same fandom. They are for secondaries
>>98012126it's called red terror because it leaves a trail of blood and communism in its wake
>>98012130Awoo awoo awoo, sad wolf noises! p-Please howl with me, Yiffkin! ;w;
>>98012098>smoothly painted? Huh? I don't think the person who painted that has glazed a model in their life. The highlights and "layering" is extremely basic and horribly done. Look at any of the recent golden demon winners, why not show models painted by them.
>>98012138Goddamn we need these in 40k.
>>98012147just imagine if they released a cat based marine chapter
>>98012138>"‘The city,’ said Forrix, who was watching everything from the main deck level. He gripped the edge of the rail about the hololith projection pipes. He stared up at his master. ‘The entire city is moving.’ Gugann trembled on its axis as the hrud capital warren broke free from the bedrock. Blinding veils of white light propelled it upwards, pushing the impossible mass into orbit using the substance of the world as fuel. A sea of magma boiled where it had torn itself from the ground. Still the Iron Warriors fleet rained fire down onto the surface, opening up more wounds, but these were mere puddles of fire compared to the ocean the hrud themselves had gouged into the rocky flesh of their world. Teardrops of lava plummeted from the underside of the capital warren. ‘That thing’s the size of a continent,’ said Forrix. ‘My lord!’ called up an astropathic liaison. ‘I am receiving word of similar breakouts at Jupor, Hranenen and Voltis.’"
>>98012154Furries are more associated with wolves than any other animal
>>98012154I am sure they would be annoying but probably not as insufferable as the Wolves.
>>98012159
>>98012122>Is green tide any good though?Why do people ask questions like this weeks before a new edition launch?
>>98012162Did you start changing the obvious filenames into even more obvious filenames now?
>>98012154we need a designated tranny army
>>98012169Was it any good in 10th?
>>98012162Wow nice discord react you fucking troon
>>98012162Why are you not busy painting your Hellblaster and Wolf Guard Knottakers?
>>98012170He's been doing the 123123 filenames for a year at this point
>>98012171unfortunately the reason for the squatting block
>>98012171Slaanesh has been around since RT anon
>>98012150based retard
>>98010921New to T sons starting with a small 500 pt list. How's this sound>infernal master>5 rubrics - flamers>5 rubrics bolters and soul reaper (IM goes here)>3 tzan enlightened with bows>2 robots with claws>tzan shaman hangs out near robotsWarpforged detachment. Shaman can fly over to infiltrating robots and buff them.Or>drop robots and shaman and take forgefiend.
>>98012162Talk shop you bitch
>>98012135Do you see the difference between these two?
>>98012170I never name my files anything but random numbers so my identity is concealed.
>>98011030>allied to Tau>allied to Tau>Tau allies>friendly to TauThese guys should just rally together.
>>98012138>Bolts streaked at the alien. Upon encountering the thing’s time field, they sped on to unbelievable speeds, or they detonated prematurely as the explosive inside the munition decayed, or they came apart in rains of metal atoms. The effect of the hrud on their surroundings was unpredictable. A Space Marine stood close by one might age a thousand years in a minute, and yet his comrade be unaffected. The hrud’s own artefacts seemed immune.>A green bolt of phasic plasma whickered through the air, its track uncertain as it blinked in and out of existence. It materialised inside a warrior of Squad Nine, punching out through his backplate and pack in a spray of blood and steam.wow it's almost like the unpredicable nature of their temporal-based biology and tech would lend themselves really well to some kind of board game where the outcomes of actions taken by each player's units are determined by the rolling of dice
>>98012201Hard to hide stupidity and ignorance, even with random file names.
>>98012162Serious question, why do you stick around? There are 35+ people that don't like you ITT. Tell me one (1) guy that likes you here.
>>98012217Why are you always so hostile and nasty?
>>98012122Why go through all that trouble when 40k boyz will be cheaper? They’ll also look like shit with all the mold lines. You’re barely even saving anything too.
>>98012200The top one is slightly greener? My point is unless a Tyranid is pic related calling it iridescent green is a gross exaggeration. Green that dark has no place on such a detailed model.
>>9801222431boys for 65 bucks.The 40k ones will be cheaper you say?
>>98012209>one eye>glasses with two lenses
>>98012225You might be autistic instead of colourblind.
>>98012230Easier to wear than a monocle
>>98012219All the (You)s that you get are from people that hate, despise or just do not care about you. For the sake of this community, please leave back to Spacewolves. Or anywhere else. Just stop being here, you are unwelcome, this will never, ever change and you need serious help.
Post models and wips
>>98012225
>>98012210Tough luck, sunshine. The battlesuits sold gangbusters when the faction was first released so that’s all the faction is gonna be getting for the foreseeable future
>>98012239Really like the freehand. Are you going to break up the two colors with a third or more?
>>98012233What colour is this car? If it was green or blue or black is would look the same. Making something that dark of tone as a metallic is worthless.
>>98012236>>98012218What makes you think anyone cares about how you feel about me? Shut the fuck up already you ugly sperg.
>>98011030We’ve seen the Enslavers actually appear as fully modeled neutral units in Gladius which is basically an unheard of level of attention for a minor xenos species
>>98012257See >>98011867
>>98012256i can tell its a blue car anon, and I know the aesthetics of the green and black wellyou're blind
>>98012257Clearly you cared enough to try and organize a raid on this general twice :)
>>98012234There's monocles with more support or if you want full glasses, you can just have them made with one lens.
>>98012251Are you going to break up the two colors with a third or more?nah, its based on russian gzhel pattern
>>98011030Mixed Xenos pirates faction when
>>98012268You obviously read the filename and simply ignored my point.
>>98012256>What colour is this car? Blue, and you can see the blue, it's different from green or black.
>>98012272It is significantly easier to just wear a pair of glasses with two lenses, one of which is clear.My brother does that since he's fully blind in one eye.
>>98012275When they give all the alien mercenaries back to Drukhari and add some more. There's like seven different species mentioned in their codex.
>>98012274I was actually wondering if that was the case. Looks good for sure Anon. Will you post the completed mini on here, do you think?
>>98012138The fuck are these things even
>>98012257“But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.”Matthew 5:22
>>98012258do we have better pictures? because it seems they went with a pretty straightforward rendition of the creature feature sketch
>>98012297Something Jamie Workshop will never make models of despite how much all the "random Sci Fi mumbo jumbo gets me hard" crowd complains. There's dozens of them and it's funny they think otherwise.
>>98012297
>>98012297hruds
>>98012291Maybe close to this summer, i need to finish her and one more corsair and then magnetize all of their heads (bodies already ready)
>>98012275it's better to split the various alien types between codex imperial agents, chaos marines, dark eldar, and tau, than to have a separate alien codex
>>98012319>Chuffian Power-MaulThat makes me chuffed.
I'm surprised that hellguns / hotshot lasguns are just lasguns with slightly better AP
>>98012350Explain.
>>98012138>they still lost
>>98012313>will never make models ofIt's so funny how you guys say this after they expanded Kroot with numerous units, updated Vespids, released new Ur-ghuls and an Ambull and a Zoat for Blackstone Fortress, and then just recently a Tarellian dog soldier and a Barghesi. Oh, and did an entire army release for the Votann with successive waves.They are running out of things to update for the main factions, and it's only a matter of time before we are getting back to back releases of things like Exodites and Dark Mech. Thinking Hrud won't come eventually is fucking delusional since as of now, everything in this pic >>98012319 has gotten a model (if you consider top left insect head as an early rendition of Vespid) except the Hrud and the jellyfish thing.
>>98012356>3rd Ed LasgunsRange: 24 "Str: 3AP -Rapid Fire>3d Ed HellgunRange: 24 "Str: 3AP 5Rapid Fire>10th Ed LasgunRange: 24"Attack: 1Str: 3AP: 0Damage: 1>10th Ed Hellgun:Range: 24"Attack: 1Str: 3AP: -1Damage: 1I omited the ballistic skill of 10th but kasrkins/storm troopers hit a tad better.
>>98011971Enough for Joytoy shitting out a large variety of them between 40k and 30k. It's a funny spot when it comes to people who play the game, since they could just buy more models.
>>98012378I believe in 2nd Hellguns were Strength 4, and in some later edition they were S3 but AP 3 or something crazy like that.
>>98012378Weren't hellguns AP3 in 3rd? They definitely were in 5th.
Hellgun was such a better name than "Hot-Shot Lasgun" why the fuck was that changed
>>98012374anon, the tarellian, clawed fiend and ambull were one off models, not really a good basis for your delusions of hruds becoming a faction
>>98012394because hell bad mkay?
>>98012357You sure?
>>98012397And the Kroot and Necron were entire ranges and the Vespid a full unit at least.But most importantly, the Hrud keep showing up again and again in the lore as large forces with militaries and different units and weapons described.
>>98012412>And the Kroot and Necron were entire rangesthey were already planned at the moment of that image, the image was a tease for those two specifically, even though they weren't totally accurate because they were still working on them, but they already knew they were making them
>>98011224You've got to remember they are an ancient race from the most destructive war the galaxy ever saw, its like if the krork were shoved into stasis and were waking up slowly. They are nerfed because of the long sleep a bit but lore wise yeah they are generally one of if not the strongest faction in the setting in terms of technology
>>98012412>But most importantly, the Hrud keep showing up again and again in the lore as large forces with militaries and different units and weapons described.Not really, no, their one exceptional outing was the horus heresy one, every other time it's just them scavenging and sneaking around as small groups.
>>98012426Sure but that still doesn't invalidate my point. GW has continually released things based on this art, from the Kroot/Necrons of 3rd to the Clawed Fiend in 5th to the Tarellian Dog Soldier in 10th. They were clearly looking at it again recently. Is it that hard to believe Hrud are in development? They brought the fucking Squats back.
>>98012378So in both 3e and 10e they got better AP over lasgun. What is the weird part?>>98012389Nope, it was AP5, same as bolters.>>98012387Hot-shot power packs gave the stormtrooper lasguns S4 (AP-1 was standard for all lasguns), making them effectively bolters in S and AP.>>98012394Hellgun was the change. 2e stormies had hot-shot power packs and hot-shot power packs are still a thing. In 5e "hellgun" was change to just be a nickname for hot-shot lasguns.
>>98012432Multiple codex lore entries since 8th edition have talked about massive Hrud migrations, it is not small groups.
>>98012239brother
Hrud could make for a good Kill Team release.
>>98012156>>98012410>only survived cause the Hrud decided to fuck offLmao
>>98012410>IW job to literal who xenos
>>98012440Aha, by then they were called hotshots, I'm not home so I can't check the codex anyway.
>>98012412>kroot flopped harder than EC>surely this means they'll keep making glup shitto xenos factions!
>>98012436>Is it that hard to believe Hrud are in development?yes, the things they have done from that image are one-off models, not ranges>They brought the fucking Squats back.the fucking squats had an actual codex with miniatures once and were requested by more than one random guy on 4chan
>>98012455Nah fuck it just give them a whole Codex and small range like Voties got.
>>98012432Hrud migrations are massive fucking deals capable of throwing entire star systems into turmoil
>>98012387>>98012389I think this is the 3.5 codex>>98012410Won the battle, but what about the war?The only BL I'll ever read is Boys Love
>>98012472>had an actual codexActually they never did. They had army lists in Rogue Trader and then one in the 2nd edition codex imperialis which was basically the "indexes" before factions got their own codexes. Squats were left out, they never got a standalone codex release before 3rd and at that point GW dropped them.
>>98012481I think you might be right, it's been a while since I've cracked open that book.
>>98012440> What is the weird part?The weird part is that it's only that. "I am surprised hellguns are just lasguns with slightly better AP" was the OP
>>98012275>>98012289>>98012339How difficult would a Pirate codex be to balance if they were to theoretically do one? Like taking a lot of low tier units from separate armies (just a throwaway example like some Kroot, some Votann and some Guards) that already have models available but could be used together in the Pirate ruleset as mercs, then introduce a few starter Pirate exclusives for their higher end/bulkier units? It seems like that would be easier to do than just starting a whole new Pirate army from scratch.
>>98012374All it would take to turn the Hrud into major players in the galaxy would be to go “Oh shit, Qah actually came back and the Hrud have been whipped up into a religious frenzy and are going on a crusade”
>>98012481Remember when your entire armies units AND weapons fit all their stats in one box like this?Modern 40k is such trash.
I bet hrud will show up in necromunda at some point
>>98012350>cawl cylinderIs that a reference to an older hotshot lasgun detail or are even the guard and other factions getting Cawl cylinders?
>>98012495Sure, or just say they've been taking advantage of the Imperium being weakened by the Great Rift and multiplying in numbers. Hell they're already more of a widespread issue than the fucking Tau and the Tau get a codex and model range.
Why are there people who pretend to care about the Hrud, they look so fucking stupid.
>>98012498>Remember when your entire armies units AND weapons fit all their stats in one box like this?I do, that's part of the reason why I looked at the hellgun stat since I wanted to do a nice table/spreadsheet with all weapons
>>98012509I don't know. Why do you comma splice?
>>98012509Sex. Look at female Tyranid players. That is what the Hrud are for.
>>98012509Because I want more weird fucking aliens in my "massive, mostly unexplored galaxy full of weird aliens" setting
>>98012394Could have been the Heckin Shooterino Carbino
>>98012504Listen I hate nu40k bullshit like no other but we can't just point at every round gubbins with gribbles and blame cawl, this is entering psychiatric territory
>>98012504Your brain on secondary.
>>98012500The only Hrud-related thing we currently have a model of is actually in necromunda right now. One of the terrain pieces they released has a Hrud Fusil on a gun rack.
>>98012509I hope that GW goes full nostalgiawank and makes hrud 40k not-skavens.Bonus point if they mix the worm thing with the rat thing
>>98012500necromunda would rather do actual ratmen instead since they are too scared of doing the more classical ratskins, already have rumors of mutant rats of unusual size capable of using tools, and of a long lost votann below the earth.Warhammer quest or some imperial or chaos retinue would be the place for a hrud.
