Previous: >>98019943The OP Is So Clean Edition>Most recent banlist updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.comhttps://www.pdhrec.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdMTQ: How do you teach threat assessment/removal management to new players?
>>98026148>TQIn an ideal world start them off with a 60 card format where they'll pick up on those fundamental concepts better because they're not being muddled by all the multiplayer/social bullshit. I swear some noob who's played a dozen games of Pauper probably has better threat assessment than some neckbeard who's played nothing but commander with 100 games under his belt.
>>98026148>tqBy teaching them restraint. Showing them that which looks innocent can snowball quickly, or kill you in an instant. Don't blow your wad early on big numbers or just "because you can.'
>>98026148>How do you teach threat assessment/removal management to new players?I don't.
ban sol ringban rhystic studyban tutors (yes, all of them)
>>98026171Why would 60 card even teach threat assessment? A solid 90% of every format is the same 4-7 decks. All you need to do is watch a video that says "HEY! THESE ARE THE KEY CARDS OF THE META DECKS" and then you deal with those cards you were told to.
>>98026148>tqBy fucking them in the ass repeatedly
>>98026223>All you need to do is watch a video that saysPeople like you are the death of any kind of game.
>>98026148yeah i play counterfeit dualsyeah i pass them off as real for street credso what?
I've been dipping my toes back into the game after tuning out for a while. How have things been going with the introduction of brackets and the game changers classification? Have they been helpful? Will people give me shit for having game changers in a shitty boros or monowhite deck?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98026148I don't because the people that need to learn this are the demographic that doesn't internalize anything you teach them.
>>98026286>Will people give me shit for having game changers in a shitty boros or monowhite deck?well why CAN'T you let go of those GC crutches so you can play b2 where you rightfully belong?
>>98026272Concession accepted
Why is jund so fun? I don't need a 4th jund deck.
In addition to "game changers" there needs to be a "game breaker" category. Half the "game changers" should be in that instead of arbitrarily on the same level as things that are clearly not as as powerful.
>>98026148TQ: You don't they just gotta learn it. Don't coddle them and when they ask why they keep losing, you tell them "It's cause you don't have interaction".It'll click or it won't; its not your job to be mother hen.
>>98026223maybe in standard atm but surely your deck can't fit enough answers, even in sideboard, to every threat in other decks 100% of the time, and that's not even accounting possible off-meta decks you might run into
>>98026382Pretty easy since most answers answer like 70% of shit
WHEN'S MAHVEL?!
>>98026386perhaps, but my point is that the most important skill is to know when to use your removalfor an example, assume I'm playing monoU delver against gruul ramp in pauperdo I use my counterspell against their chrysalis, or do I play murmuring mystic which can create chump blockers and also prevent them from playing avenging hunter and running away with the initiative, saving my counter for their ram through
What's worse: Someone with zero threat assessment with lots of removal (who uses it poorly), or someone who doesn't understand they're the threat and brings zero protection (and gets salty about it)?>friend plays Mindskinner>plays stuff like Water Crystal/Bonehoard/Genji Glove/stuff that gives double strike>can mill the table in two attacks, three worst case>gets mad that his commander is killed on sight, runs zero counterspells/bounce/anything to protect itDude is in mono fucking blue and runs zero counterspells make it make sense
>>98026408Former because it's more disruptive dealing with the third boardwipe being curved for no reason.
>>98026408>Someone with zero threat assessment with lots of removal (who uses it poorly)This is 100% me
>>98026148Based thread.>TQ: How do you teach threat assessment/removal management to new players?The best place to start is playing battlecruiser against them. First they'll blow up the battlecruiser, and understand that this is good to do. Then they'll start blowing up the stuff that ramps towards or enables the battlecruiser, and know that this is better than the battlecruiser ever deploying. Eventually they'll be targeting value engines all of their own accord.
>have wanted to make a deck around powerstones (making tons of them) for years>only advice threads are 3+ years oldIs there still no good commander/strategy for this? I've seen zero decks, ever, across like 8 LGSs that run that archetype, it just seems so damn neat
>>98026148>TQMy friend caught on pretty quickly after we started playing 1v1 and after I won a couple of times we switched decks and after winning again I explained to him how I won
>>98026443>mana rock tokens that enter tapped and exist entirely within like 1 setYeah... so neat..
>>98026408The former because they will enable the latter. The former ensures that you will be unable to stop the guy about to win simply because he's salty you killed one of his creatures a few turns ago.
>>98026472Lots of fun things barely get any support.
>>98026472>and exist entirely within like 1 setTo be fair, this is like 100% of all new game mechanics nowadays. The (VERY FUCKING OBVIOUS) downside of not doing blocks anymore
>>98026495Yeah because blocks ended up really fleshing out mechanics like Epic and Megamorph, right?Fucking revisionist history from newfags.
>>98026432I can smell your fear. Your actions are cowardly and hollow much like your beliefs.
>>98026443What do you even mean? Just put a bunch of cards that say powerstone on them in an artifact deck or use a commander that has an activated ability that you can sink your powerstones into.
>>98026443It doesn't look that difficult to make anon. It's an artifact tokens deck that gives you a lot of mana to cast more artifacts or activate abilities. So start from those themes.
>>98026503Terrible bait, apply yourself.
>>98026522Go ahead anon. Tell me how many sets those mechanics appeared in when they had a whole block to themselves.
>>98026503>>98026526You're reminding me of how much I'm dreading the star trek UB. Especially when they just recently made their own perfectly good sci-fi plane.
>>98026528How cute you believe EOE was made as anything but a way to prepare the playerbase for Star Trek.
>>98026148Blessed OP anon tyI know there's anons with Extus decks, front side focus.What are you wincons? Mine came out like a durdle pile
>>98026148OP I love you thank you so much have my children
>>98026148This is the best OP we had in years! We should designate whoever made this as the official thread baker!
>>98026528I'm looking forward to it.
>>98026148The only thing wrong with this OP is that it went up on page 7 instead of page 2.
>>98026148Thank GOD there's finally a good OP. This is the way OPs should be baked.
>>98026536EOE clearly had some soul put into it though.
>>98026542>>98026547>>98026549>>98026555
>>98026556>DUDE AMONG USTruly WotC's finest work. I can really tell this set was worked on for a long time.
>>98026563>dude one meme card means the whole set is badCalm down retard-kun.
>>98026564>It's just one card. The set wasn't padded due to being the product of a larger production plan
>>98026563>vote out>does not use voting as a mechanic
>>98026570EOE was the best set of 2025.
>>98026570I really have no idea what you're even on about now.
>>98026563>this was how they stuck it to TrumpLmao>>98026570Cards like this used to be appreciated for being humorous and now everyone is a cynical faggot
>>98026359Agreed The fact that cards like Panoptic Mirror and Teferi's are treated as the same power level as shit like LED is insane
>>98026575>Bzzt. This is your captain speaking. As we venture into the newest hat set, it appears I have to call an emergency meeting for the latest quirky reference.
>>98026587>THERE NEED TO BE EVEN MORE RULES!!!!!there should be less, the entire bracket system has been catastrophic.
>>98026588obsessed
>>98026589stick to your poker minigame containment please
>>98026585Because when cards like this showed up it wasn't in an environment where over half the entire set lineup was a joke.
>>98026588Literally what are you complaining about? This card is pretty alright too. Might be a little bit better than Stroke of Midnight in general but worse in anti-creature decks.
>>98026591What the fuck are you talking about?
>>98026589Why even have rules if retards just want to play off vibes anyway? Let Spike show up with Time Vault in the command zone who cares as long as they get to have fun?
>>98026588Why was the set bad?
>>98026595The only people who complain about the existence of brackets are those that want to run cEDH decks against timmies. Best you bunch get stuck in your poker minigame containment.
>>98026600BECAUSE HE LE HECKIN DIDN'T LE LIKE IT
>Thread IQ and post quality drops dramaticallyHmm I wonder who started posting again...
>>98026585>>this was how they stuck it to Trump>LmaoFucking what
>>98026597>brackettards are so retarded that this is their defense of bracketsWe had rules, we had a game, JotC's dirty hands did not improve this format and never have.
>>98026609noooo brackets are the best thing ever. Now let me get you DQ'd because I decided that legal commander isn't bracket 2
>>98026609My deck is a 7 :)
>>98026613>GUYS IS THIS TOTALLY LEGAL NON-GC COMMANDER OK IN BRACKET 2!?!?!?
>>98026609>We had rules. We had a game.Ah that's why the playerbase had a collective meltdown when those rules were changed to make them impactful instead of something that vaguely existed in the background despite being totally ineffective, right?
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PLAY URZA AS YOUR COMMANDER IN BRACKET 2!>Why?>BECAUSE I THINK HE IS OPThis is actually how bracketfags play
>>98026622>my urza deck is totally b2 you guys for real>no I won't let you check the cards that's cheating!
>NO YOU CAN'T JUST PLAY AD NAUS ON TURN 2 AND WIN THE GAME WITH THORACLE >Why?>BECAUSE I THINK IT IS OPThis is how Sheldonfags play
>>98026625>nooo you can't play this legal commander because i said so!>My rules are very well thought out and not calvinball
I like void.
This thread has successfully radicalized me into believing that all the shitposting actually comes from one person given that exactly 24h after the last post deletion wave we get an early OP and huge wave of bracket shitposting after giga.jpg and stx-149.png accompanied by random OP glazing.
>>98026634>Only one person on 4chan would dare shitpost. 4chan is known for having normal conversations and not being 99% bait.
>>98026600Spider-man was the best set yet, I agree. Why did anybody think that it was bad?
>>98026636Weird how the last few threads were way better conveniently in the timeframe immediately after a large volume of off-topic shitposts got deleted by a mod.
>>98026639Whatever, you fucking nutcase.
>>98026642>>98026636>noooo stop noticing
I wish swordbro was here
>>98026634It's been traditionally 1-2 people that show up and tank the thread, going back at least a year. And it's blatantly obvious when they arrive
>>98026331This shit looks boring as hell. You can only build it one way really.
>>98026331ugly ass background
>>98026705LurkingPlaytesting my decks before I head home from my dad's
>>98026563Been happening literally forever you stupid newfag
>>98026753Seems cool to me since it doesn't come off comical.>>98026607>lefties (wotc) super mad about twump >oh he got fairly elected by a democracy>DEMOCRACY ISNT ALWAYS JUST
Wotc should make more low-mana, high-power cards that have the downside of opponents fetching basic lands
>>98026739Is Ureni actually fun? Top 8 could miss dragons multiple times in a row and then I think he might suck.
>>98026767"Search your library because I said so"No.
>>98026772hey man if you don't want a free basic you can just say you failed to find
>>98026776You know you just want broken shit. They don't print much of that anymore
>current year>skeleton tribal is still light years away
>>98026797I'm personally still waiting on a proper hellbent commander (that isn't complete ass)
>>98026806God, fucking SAME
>>98026770I think Ureni is worse but significantly more fun than Miirym, precisely because he's less consistent and more slot-machine-y. The way I usually try to benefit is casting as wide of a net as possible, given I use Scaled Nuturer, Patron of the Arts, Reckless Barbarian, etc to make sure I have dragons at all sorts of mana values and as many as I can. Wide net, etc. I even use things like Stormshriek Feral so even if I don't get nay other dragons, I still get something, but can use it as an omen for reshuffling my frequently stacked bottom-deck from multiple Ureni triggers.
>>98026806I don't like Malfegor. He's an uggo.
>>98026806>>98026797I wish you gentlemen the best. I got my wish for a real jund -1/-1 counters commander after a decade of waiting so I believe anything is possible.
>>98026898It's too bad Auntie Ool basically creates a deck with no wincon except combat or her own ability. The new Golgari Elf one is fantastic by comparison.
>>98026902Hardly, even a basic build of the deck has all the old random infinities old -1/-1 counter decks did. Golgari elf is good but it's sort of just elfball again.
>>98026914You mean basically just Devoted Druid, so there's 0 point to even making a jund one other than pretending you're cool using those old and "unique" cards despite almost all of them being reprinted into the precon.
Return to Return to Ravnica
>>98026797
>>98026924>You mean basically just Devoted DruidNo. Basically every one of the old enchantments that puts -1/-1 counters on stuff can start a combo. Yawg, Mikaeus, and pic related have combos. Hapatra has combos. Even All Will be One has jank board wipe combos. Obelisk Spider and frankly any Blood Artist effect are redundant for Auntie Ool's effect. Sounds to me like you just didn't try very hard to make it.
test
>>98026930Wait didn't we already do this
>>98026945No WONDER Blue is my favorite..
>>98026902>The commander is bad because she is not the win-con>But is a draw engine that will get you to your win-con while giving value for several already known and powerful -1/-1 combos.Okay.
>>98026982>>98026941>DURR HURR HURR COMBOSThis is why I know fags like you can't play. It's the exact same cards you use in every other -1/-1 counter deck with 0 nuance, skill, and just digging for infinites. Play 60 card and leave good players and fun decks alone.
>>98026986>>98026967>plays a game with combos >gets mad when other players use combosI think pokemon is more your speed bud
>>98026961Yes. Several times, in fact.
>>98026945I liked the cute korean girl better. It actually matched my fetish.
>>98026996>i-i really wanted a commander for X in X Colors!>exactly the same deck as literally any otherI think Korvold is more your speed. Stop pretending to care about themes.
Just got Silverquill, what are some choice cards to put in him?
>Bracket 1Fake, literally just a Youtuber talking point.>Bracket 2/3Actual spirit of the game. Stupid shit with strong themes and sometimes good cards.>Bracket 4Basically cedh>Bracket 5Also fictional as CEDH is in the previous tier
>>98026986https://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub
>>98027078Sheldon's boardgame approach to mtg has done a lot of damage longterm
>>98026634Yes, it's been well established that pds is single-handedly shitting up the thread.
>>98027100so true, this pds guy is laser focused on spamming and cluttering the op with gay porn and unrelated memes, wish he'd go away
>>98027139Oh boy, more schizo shit. There's nothing wrong with the stupid bolas meme in the OP, stop spazzing out newfag.
>>98027167>actual furry porn link>it's just a meme guys!
>>98027174>guys i'm new and don't understand anything>CHANGE IT FOR MEWhy does it bother you? Seriously? What integrity of a thread you're new to do you think you're protecting? It's there because we've had a Gay Bolas ritualposter for half a decade and it's dumb thread culture shit. Memes, you know?
>>98027180>thinking i cant check archive>not denying it's actual furry porn btwLol yiff in hell
>>98027139>I'm not pds you are!
>>98027167>>98027180I'm agreeing with you. What about the rest of offtopic ritualposting he put in the OP? pds did all that to shitpost
>>98027185Why would I deny that an e6 link is furry porn? Are you a schizo?>huurr archiveAgain, what part are you refuting by saying that? Dude ritualposted "Gay Bolas" for YEARS and it got added to the OP because it's part of the shit we do here. Can you try to answer the question, newfag? Why do you care? How is it hurting you? What purity are you trying to protect? Who hurt you?>>98027186Can you tards PLEASE stop misusing the fucking PDS meme. You're not supposed to call the guy in question Poopdickschizo, it's a representation of how many named fags exist for doing the same thing over and over.
>>98027202>yes it's furry porn>it should be allowed anyway because i said soUnalive yourself you fucking degenerate
>poltardschizo is on meltie #49494739
>>98027186But I never said you are. Perchance this is projection?
>>98027212>his desires don't hold up to even the tiniest modicum of scrutiny>absolutely adamant that a thread should change for himMental illness.
>Sarulf, best boi1 Sarulf, Realm Eater1 Accursed Marauder1 Sakura-Tribe Elder1 Winding Constrictor1 Demon's Disciple1 Fleshbag Marauder1 Gravelighter1 Merciless Executioner1 Plaguecrafter1 Eternal Witness1 Forgotten Ancient1 Gemrazer1 Slippery Bogbonder1 Corpsejack Menace1 Archfiend of Depravity1 Feign Death1 Undying Malice1 Blossoming Defense1 Defend the Rider1 Legolas's Quick Reflexes1 Mutant's Prey1 Silkguard1 Smuggler's Surprise1 Snakeskin Veil1 Tamiyo's Safekeeping1 Tyvar's Stand1 Revitalizing Repast1 Oblivion's Hunger1 Sheoldred's Edict1 Ancient Animus1 Back to Nature1 Biosynthic Burst1 Bombadil's Song1 Collective Resistance1 Gaea's Gift1 Heroic Intervention1 Origin of Metalbending1 Overprotect1 Strength of Will1 Tribute to the Wild1 Abrupt Decay1 Assassin's Trophy1 Golgari Charm1 Force of Despair1 Soul Shatter1 Archdruid's Charm1 Beast Within1 Cycle of Renewal1 Entish Restoration1 Harrow1 Hunter's Insight1 Roiling Regrowth1 Putrefy1 Astarion's Thirst1 Fertilid's Favor1 Atomize1 Deathsprout1 Drag to the Roots1 Hatred1 Jaheira's Respite1 Return of the Wildspeaker2 Windgrace's Judgment1 Doomsday Confluence1 Collective Voyage1 Dig Up1 Simplify1 Extract a Confession1 Feed the Swarm1 Fell1 Mire in Misery1 Myrkul's Edict1 Torment of Hailfire1 Broken Bond1 Fangs of Kalonia1 Farseek1 Rampant Growth1 Deadly Brew1 Witherbloom Command1 Toxic Deluge1 Cultivate1 Kodama's Reach1 Visions of Dominance1 Maelstrom Pulse1 Mandate of Abaddon1 Syphon Mind1 Bramblecrush1 Chain of Acid1 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss1 Pir's Whim1 Culling Ritual1 Vicious Rivalry1 Blasphemous Edict1 Gix's Command1 Rishkar's Expertise1 Season of Gathering1 Casualties of War1 In Garruk's Wake1 Meathook Massacre II
>>98027227Reminder to all that /edhg/ OPs historically have had "X edition" in them and it's only a furfag's delusion that changed this into actual furry porn links
>>98027242I haven't really played much commander but was looking at building this or something like it? Need to trim some stuff. Does this look okay? the idea is to kill people with dog and protect dog, ramp is to recast dog a lot if he dies .
>>98027242Stop being retarded.
>>98027245 see >>98027248
>>98027248that card seems bad for the deck? Sarulf would eat him
>>98027247My man no one is going to give you advice like that. You need to put the decklist in one of the sites for easy reviewing. I haven't checked, but since we got the objectively correct OP, yhey should be up there
>>98027253Concession accepted
Is this dude's entire existence just cheesing emblems from planeswalkers and infinites with walking ballista and triskelion?
>>98027293Yes>it's also not as broken as you think it is relax
>>98027293All Phyrexians (and eldrazi) are sloppa, no exceptions.
>>98027305Damn. I wanted to make a big gorilla commander that could help make more big gorillas. Am I stuck playing elfball and throwing out a craterhoof?
>>98027245You can put editions back in the OP as well, I like those. This doesn't change anything about what I said but it looks like you're having a rambling fit.
>>98027293I don't like him. His tiny widdle arms and dainty, womanly hands make it impossible to take him seriously.
>>98027202It's part of the shit YOU do here, I'm pretty sure most posters in /edhg/ would be happier if all the ritualposters just killed themselves, yourself included
>>98027315Even Skrelv?
>>98027315But Phyrexians and Eldrazi are maximum aesthetic. Building a deck for each of the preators would be cool.>gix can fuck off though
>>98027327>No guys seriously I speak for everyone>spams>early OPs>throws a hissy fit about things in the OPYeah... yeah I don't think so.
>>98027323All you've said is that furry porn should be added in the OP because you want to fyi
>>98027327I'd certainly be happy if you kys so you may be onto something pds
>>98027355Gix dindu nuffin
>>98027356>I'm not shitposting by endlessly reposting the same shitposts>You are by expressing your annoyance towards them!>Checkmate! Logic'd!
>>98027356>early OP>when this one was made when the previous was on page 7Nice projection. I'm sure you're chomping at the bit to put your furry porn as soon as this thread hits bump limit page 3
>>98027377So Mishra got Gix'd? Maybe UW isn't as lame and pansyassed as I thought...
>>98027268is this better? https://moxfield.com/decks/7OPCPxRACEummUnoA3zksgtrying to figure out what to cut
What deck/commander immediately destroys your soul and drains the fun out of the game? For me, it's anything that has a fucking 10+ minute turn, but especially Hearthhull. Seriously fuck that thing.
>>98027398Cedh decks at least kill you quicklyThe worst decks are the ones that durdle into nothing, which is why paradox engine got banned
>>98027394you're coming at it in the wrong directionstart with your landbase and your ramp package (whatever that might look like), then interaction/removal. THEN add the stuff you actually want to play with.
>>98027398Izzet or any commander with RU in it.
>>98027387>>98027392>>98027374Holy shit can you stop the melty? You've done nothing to defend changing the way things are because your newfaggot ass is hurt for some reason.
>>98027429>You've done nothing to defend changing the way things areFeel free to post the oldest archived thread with furry porn links in the OP to prove it's how things 'have always been', surely your appeal to tradition should be recorded accordingly
>>98027447
>>98027455>cant refute anything i've saidUh oh melty
>>98027447>rambling nonanswer that doesn't even quote anything I saidOkay, you can't be serious
>>98027461>every anon mocking me is the same anon!
>>98027463>cant post archive for some strange reasonRoru rumao you are seething
>>98027455>flavor is foodstuff destruction>effect destroys artifacts but not food
>>98027472Dude who mentioned the archive? You did. You've made no claims other than you not wanting it here. Why not? Make a single fucking claim that justifies changing the way things are.
>>98027480And yet you're the one claiming it's 'always been there'
>>98027490When did I say that. Link my post. Only you've said that. You have gotta be shitposting if you're dodging a basic inquiry into WHY you want to change the OP so badly.
Stop responding to "PDS" schizo. He's just only here to try and force his fetish on the general and shit up the thread whenever he doesn't get the chance to make the thread.
>>98027506Yes i know it's him, the autistic furfag simply cant help himself
>>98027398Vivi is really the only commander where I had to ask the guy if we're dead yet and if we are can we get on with a new game already
That's it. I'm adding the PDS card back to the OP.
>>98027429shitposts/ritual posts in the OP is a very recent change, it's not "the way things are"
>>98027573So basically no answer?
>>98027587Yes poopdickschizo you have no answer
>>98027587nigger YOU changed the way things are and are now trying to gaslight everyone into thinking we have always been at war with Eastasia
I've been coming to these threads since their inception and I just ignore all of this retarded drama. How hard is it for you people to do the same?
>>98027394has moxfield been slow for other anons or is it just me? I want to help but it won't load, and it's not only for anon's deck
>/pol/ posting againReminder you can report these for being off-topic.Anyway I'm out. Really glad we have a "savior of the thread" that does nothing but shit it up. Let me know if this retard gets banned again.
>>98027591>>98027596Is trying to do an Uno Reverse with the poopdickschizo thing the other faggot was doing helping? You're just looking more unhinged. You still haven't answered me and seem to refuse, regardless of how many times you reply.>that other weird retarded thing in your commentI'm not even gonna touch the East Asia remark.
>>98027626
>>98027626pds you are baking new threads on page 3 because it's imperative for you to have porn links and the other ritualposts in the OP. Regardless of wether those memes belong or not, baking on page 3 is just plain wrong
>>98027616>all this fighting over a thread OP I NEVER READSeriously
>>98027645>>98027632>full meltdown screeching and NO U-ing about PDSThe other fag calls you that, stop trying to co-opt it. Also, I do not think a newfag who can't even articulate WHY he doesn't want those things in the OP without a mental breakdown should be making any choices for anyone.
>>98027656Never reading the OP is a poor excuse for filling it with nonsense and literal porn.
so uh, do I build him with a lot of tokens or just focus on blood artist effects?
Someone tell me if I'm the asshole here.>playing with randoms at LGS since friends aren't around>literally no one at this place has interaction>player A is a total joke and does nothing the entire game except fumble around with tap lands>players B and C are both "I'm gonna loop some bullshit for 20 minutes every turn in an attempt to ping everyone to death" nonsense decks>use Y'shtola deck because I know A doesn't have shit, and B/C likely went super greedy to get their combos off>get Y'shtola out on turn 3>just as I guessed, B/C have basically zero interaction, and A is doing nothing>proceed to lock B/C down with spot removal, counterspells, and Sigil of Sleep to repeatedly bounce their commanders back>they become visibly irritated the first time this happens, and begin doing stuff like intentionally drawing out their turns, playing with their phones, etc>finally have to say something to C to make him take his turn>"dude can you stop being an asshole for one minute?">ask him what's his deal>"you are ruining this game man">tell him I'm not going to just let him shit out combos without opposition>he angrily scoops>B scoops next turn as well>A still hasn't done anything by turn 7
>>98027666I don't CARE anon I wouldn't have even noticed if people didn't keep bitching about it.
>>98027660because I don't like you and I don't want you to have it. Simple as, pds
>>98027667uh, idk
>>98027676Its honestly not your fault that niggas don't have failsafe's in their decks>>98027689oh....ok
>>98027618It worked fine for me?>>98027406Ok I did what u said and I still have too many cards -w-'' decklist: >>98027394 need to trim 16? cards. I want to play all this stuff and dunno which stuff is better or worse? it all seems like what I want to dosome proxies I kinda started and never finished
>>98027698cut the last 16 cards you added then goldfish with it for a bit
>>98027676>This game is not going my way so I'm going to waste everyone's time by not passing my turnAbsolutely despise this kind of faggots. You did good>>98027667can't you do both?
>>98027707but that would be all my draw and the cards I want to play with??? the ones tagged "time for dog"
>>98027709I can but I guess I want to know what I should lean into
>>98027676Nah you're goodYour opponents are just another ripple effect of sheldon coddling every retard out there
>>98027676They're playing slop, but so are you. Y'shtola is such a boring commander. The worst players can get very easy wins with her.
>>98027682So you've joined a brand new thread for you and decided that you have some sort of right to change how things are? Yeah I was right, mental illness.
>>98027676>I played one of the most busted modern 0-skill commandersYes, you should build an actual deck instead of a goodstuff pile.
>>98027732A goodstuff deck IS an actual deck you retard
>>98027718>>98027732I have her because she's my waifu and is my "look at how much interaction you can pack in this baby" deck. My problem is that most people at my LGS just don't run interaction, so I feel forced to be the one to take control of the table.
>>98026148>TQ: How do you teach threat assessment/removal management to new players?drafting. Which sucks because wotc fucked up boosters. Play Boosters are shit! Shit!drafting teaches you to understand curve, what cards are good and what are bad, not loading your deck with a ton of 8-drops and no ramp, how strong draw is, how to hold and use removal and interaction.
>>98027744I don't care if she's your waifu, she's the epitome of do thing draw card design WITH a grindy wincon tacked on. If I wanted to eat my LGS alive I'd just run her all the time.
>>98027676So on one hand fuck them for slow play.But also fuck you for looking at the table, knowing you're going to blow it the fuck out, and deciding to oppress the table anyway.
>>98027744I'm building my Sarulf deck to fuck over my friend's ysholta deck lol
>>98027758I mean, you're not wrong. She can just sit there farting on everyone with her infect sources, run infinite combos, or just be an asshole and slow burn people to death with her pings.>>98027760My issue is I knew player A wasn't going to do anything, and players B/C were just going to wank themselves off until they got combos going. I fucking despise that shit.
>>98027667That's too much chin.
>>98027726>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95888616this is the first inclusion of gay bolas in an OP, from 17 Jun 2025>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/95881513/this is the OP before it, without itthe OP I brew with is older than these, so by your logic gay bolas is actually changing how things are and is beneath me
>>98027713well I think it's a trap having a lot of big sorceries and just hoping to copy themto build aristocrats, you need to lean both into token generation/reanimation of small critters and blood artists. I'd use the dragon to get more value out of the first half
>>98027833>the furry shit is not even a year old>when /edhg/ has been around since 2015Yikes
>>98027847You're right I think, thanks anon
>>98027833>completely dodged itYou're brand new, and I respect the gumption, but maybe do things that matter instead of sperg out about the OP?
>>98027833also worth noting that Gay Bolas only started getting spammed in every thread in March 2024
>>98027908>>98027833>>98027848How long are you going to talk to yourself?
>>98027909
>>98027895dodged what, pds? why won't you address the timestamps?
>>98027911What am i supposed to be addressing? You're simply posting it and stating that it exists. So? I'm still waiting for an actual good reason to do this shit with the OP when you're a newfag and not one person was bothered before you started earlyposting and shitting up threads over it.
Post decks.
@the two retards fighting over retard shit no one gives a fuck about in edhg
>samefagging himself all thread while compulsively replying to every (You)>"NO U" trying to coopt pds and other terms used to meme his poltardation>spends all weekend internet warring about something literally all other anons in the general don't give a shit about>after he made a completely new general where he cries about /edh/ in its op>this is unironically his lifegenuinely sad literal schizo behavior
I like how PDS is still seething that not only did the mods not ban gay Bolas anon, but it got put in the official story. He's coping about it to this day because it destroys his worldview that his idea of moral purity is somehow more respected than doing the bare minimum amount of actual work towards sharing a creative vision (in this case, writing a fanfic).
>>98027937
>>98027952What did you use to gen this
>>98027952I can't believe Reality Fracture gave Nicol Bolas such huge knockers
>>98027977This is official artwork from wotc
>>98027983MaRo's gonna get you for a reality fracture leak this big.
>>98027952Holy based...
>>98027913>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97934708/#97939523this thread (no meme links) was on page 4 when this one (has meme links)>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97939511/was baked. You can tell by post count and timeframe, if not by repliesso the newfag you're refering to is pds shitposting to have his meme links. So we actually agree anon, hooray
>>98027952
>>98027937just gonna post another deck
>>98028004It's incredible the lengths you go to to not answer basic questions. What are you expecting me to address, newfag?
>>98027980I mean if anyone was going to make a stupid sexy femBolas it would be Jace's weird snussy-fucking mind
I’ve been out of the loop for a little over a year. Got some questions:>Is MTG still gay and retarded? (Yes)>Is Loot still being shilled as the second coming of Christ?>Is Zimone slop still getting shoveled out en masse?>Guy at LGS said the reserve list is gone, is that true?>Did they go through with shafting the tier list of 10 for the gay and retarded 4 brackets thing?>Is JOTC still being greedy with the new set prices?>UB bloat still a thing?>Power creep gotten any better?>Are (You) even having fun anymore?
>>98028023>>98027913>to do this shitwhat shit? don't phrase your questions vaguely, say exactly what you want to know and I'll answerI have one for you, what makes you say I'm new?
>>98028044YesNoSometimesNoYes but brackets are a massive improvement actuallyYesYesNoYeah actually
>>98028044YesNoYesNoYes because the old "My deck is a 7" system was even more retarded and worse was unenforceableJust dont buy collectors boostersNoThere's no returning to the old power level now that edh is the primary game modeYes
>>98028044>Yes>No>This is technically still TBD. She showed up one time outside Strixhaven only back in Duskmourn.>No>Yes but the version we got was a limp-wristed shell specifically because of retards that didn't want to do any work changing their decks>Yes>Yes>No>No
only 55 more posts until I can bake the new thread
>>98028044>yes>no>not that much>lol no>yes but my group doesn't use them so whatever>yes>unfortunately yes>lol, lmao>somehow yes
>>98028099just bake early like the anti gay bolas guy
It's comforting knowing I don't have to bake threads anymore now that we have 2 regular shizos that fight over it
Can i please get some more help with my attempt at mono-green eldrazi?https://moxfield.com/decks/6IsH8-Ujh0qINu3rXXjbEAAdding the land recursion engine an anon suggested was a great improvement but when i draw test hands on here there's still too many that just do nothing, so the deck seems somewhat inconsistent.
>>98028124>mono green>eldraziWow you took 2 of the gayest decks ever and combined them to multiply their gayness, congratulations on being the biggest faggot at the table
>>98028140You're not wrong, i always gravitate towards obnoxious decks
>>98028124>mono-green eldraziJesus Christ, kill yourself.
>>98028023>>98027913youre sea lioning
>>98028140>getting upset at eldraziSigns you're even WORSE a player than Timmy
>>98028172Sorry :(
>>98028182Slimy Zhulodok tentacles typed this post
>>98028199Zhuladok's power has nothing to do with him being an eldrazi. He's just a pushed kill-on-sight snowball card like a bunch of other FIRE commanders. You can build him as an artifact deck to much better effect.
>>98028199I’m going to rape your plane of existence
>>98028109*pro gay bolas guy
>>98027937PrEDH anyone?
>>98028223Unironically nice b1 deck
>>98028223>predh>using Final Fantasy Rhystic StudyAHH
>>98028239FFX came out in 2001
>>98028223modern printings shouldn't be allowed in predh
>>98028481>I don't like the way the card looks, you can't use itPredh babies when the cards aren't expensive and hideous enough.
>>98028491and they're correct, if I see Spongebob in your PrEDH deck, I am eating it
>>98028223I love it, but I've upgraded all my decks, so no more PrEDH. I want to get a Battlecruiser format started and popular.>5+ casting cost for general>3.5-4+ average mana cost>no two card infinitesJust slow the game down, encourage big splashy spells and creatures. Just the way original EDH was intended.
>>98026408When I first started playing mono blue I was the former. >my mono blue pile, iirc a muldrotha deck, the monkey that makes bananas, and idr what else>monkey player getting stronger, muldrotha player puts down a big creature with an etb to destroy target creature, or had an etb from playing it, idr>targets my little scry dork, I'm easily in the worst position on the table>I counter it, telling him to target the problem player or literally anyone else>gets pissed at me, tells me my threat assessment sucks, all that shit>told him if he wanted to play my hand like it was his I'll step away from the tableI have no idea who was in the right but I'll always keep this little guy in my deck after that. The monkey player won in the end.
>>98027698Damn look at that pringle nigga
>>98028579Not that guy, but how the hell do you stop the Pringle effect? Also WHY does it even happen? Chang's fakes don't do it, for example.
>>98028610it's moisture, putting a dessicant packet in your deck box(es) will solve it most of the time
>>98028610Pokemon and yugioh foils curl tooAnd as easy as it is to shit on wotc, Chang doesn't counterfeit at scale
>>98028016>return to dustI thought I was the only one who ran that still.
>>98028610Skill issue
>>98028698I'm surprised that a lot of people don't run it
I'm glad so many more anons have come around on EOE in the past few months.
>>98028846EoE story and characters are lame, as to be expected from wotcStar trek is for boomersBut space as a set theme is cool, inb4 muh fantasy
>>98028778What a cool foil. I don't think I've ever seen a foil card with the colorshift frame irl.
>>98028846EOE is cool in general. Plus it gave me the dabbing Eldrazi.
>>98028846Everything about EoE is shit but the power level of the cards. It's been a long time truth that for all their larping about muh lore magic players don't give a fuck about UW lore. All that matters to 99% of mtg players is what the text on the card says.
>>98028846It's because the only walker is tezzi and his only purpose is to drive other characters along and that let the setting breathe a little bit
There really needs to be one more bracket with 5-6 GC
>>98029061No there really isnt
>>98029038What's the verdict on tezz anyways? He seems good but I haven't tested with him because I hated the art. Tutors esper sentinel, skullclamp, soul-guide, sol ring ect.
>build age of empires themed bracket 1 decks with friends>no mythological creatures, exceptions only for animals like boars, crocodiles etc>chose gay kings for greece>practically build themselves with soldiers+siege+auras, every artwork has hoplites on them>friend chose chinese and went with jeskai, was done in like an hour and is planning to do japanese next>have to build a viking deck for last friend because he wants to join in but is too illiterate to brew one himself>only viking stuff I found so far was from ass creed and kaldheim, both kinda lackingwhy is there no viking art tag? longboat and norway is all I found so far
>>98029153Look into Coldsnap & Ice Age, I suppose.
>>98029153Just look through the entire Kaldheim set in your colors. Shouldn't take more than like 1-2 min
>Running Teshar combo in B3don't mind me
>>98028922Eldrazi are gay and cringe no matter where they're from.
>>98028846EOE was a great set and no one has a good complaint that isn't "BUT WHERE MUH WIZURDS N ELVES?!?"I fucking hate Strixhaven as a setting but I won't pretend SOS sucked.
>>98029239But b3 is exactly where Teshar belongs
>Opening hand is Gemstone caverns, sol ring, arcane signet, and land tax, but you're going first.
>>98029270>no one has a good complaint that isn't "BUT WHERE MUH WIZURDS N ELVES?!?"Sami is a they/them faggot
>>98029239>uhhh anon that commander isn't allowed in this bracket.>What? No. No rules say you can't. But my vibes say that you shouldn't and that is what Gavin would want.
>>98029301Dare I ask. So?
>>98029301>Thinks this is a good complaintlmaololNot even going to read your reply.
>>98029311Wotc shouldnt be promoting mental illness to 13 year olds
>>98029270I like the wizards. They're all neat.
>>98029239Being a poorfag must be hell
>>98027937No, I can't take good pictures.
>>98029316Genuinely and I mean be for really real with me, okay? Do you think that a sentence that just looks poorly formatted on a single not not very good card is going to lead a 13 year old to think "oh, Sami is intentionally being referred to in the third person and past tense with they/them pronouns that's so heckin' wholesome and based and now i want to invert my cock" and not [whatever the card says] followed very closely by *thought disappears*?
>>98029327I would get up from the table and leave if you pulled this out.
>>98029334Would you turn 360 degrees first?
>>98029329Quit gaslighting troon.
>>98029334>I would get up and awkwardly spend several minutes packing my shit up in silenceWhy do you guys imply you can just walk away? Do you leave your mat, deck boxes, dice, bag etc? I'm taking it.
>>98029334I would get on my knees and give you wet toppy
>>98029334Dont worry anon i know exactly what will keep you sitting down
>>98029327pretty based
>>98029215snow stuff was good tip, thanks
>>98029327Based >>98029334And no one would miss you. Perhaps you'd like to try leaving the thread permanently instead?
>>98029427>>98029469Samefag
>>98029306what purpose is there to angle-shooting a casual format
>>98029522Vibes anon is deathly afraid of randoms and cant stand up for himself
>>98029522Ask bracket 2 fags. I have personally experienced this shit when I dealt with one.
>>98029531Let me guess none of them had phones to look up brackets
>>98029539Brackets are vibe based
>>98029550But enough about rule zero
>>98029558>GUYS IS THIS COMMANDER BRACKET 2?!
>>98029567>>98029539
>>98029522There are a lot of thin skinned autists whose identity is winning at dumb shit like this.
>>98029650There are also a lot of sore losers out there so it goes both ways
>>98029487how did you know?
>>98026806Memba when a 6/6 for 6 with upside used to be amazing?
>>98029650>>98029522see >>98029663
this looks like it could make a cool deckwhat background, /edhg/?
>>98029666Pfft. I've been here since 2016 bro.
>>98029798I kneel, oldfag.
>>98029772A blue one
>>98029772Does synergy with graveyard casting.
https://moxfield.com/decks/IKXVilvf5EG0bZdiXmv24wWhat should I cut and replace?I just bought:>Wolverine Riders>Craterhoof Behemoth>Ivy Lane Denizen>Morcant's LoyalistGilt-Leaf PalaceIm planning on adding also some Poison counter cards like:>Vraska's Fall>Infectious Inquiry>Infectious BiteAlso I have some Sideboard cards that i don't know wether to add them or keep them to the side as situational crds32 lands is enough for elves right? I was using 30 but i found out i struggle with lands if I dont draw the mana dorks
>>98027937I really need to lay out my Satan deck
Hello deck seller. I am going into battle and I need only your most fun naya commander.
>>98030007Naya is by far the least fun of all color combinations.
>>98030007He can be literally anything you want. Run any creature as your commander.
>>98030047>give on of the coolest commander the most ridiculous designs everthat "beard" and the flesh eyebrows are so fucking vomit inducing
https://moxfield.com/decks/7OPCPxRACEummUnoA3zksgI finished cutting stuff from Sarulf. I think it will already be too powerful / mean for my pod so I'm purposely doing stuff a bit dumb. Might need to ditch it and pick a new commander.
>>98030047>Rocco x=4>Get arena rector>Pop rector>Get vivian on the hunt>Rocco is a 3 drop, sac to vivian and get felidar guardian>Do the whole felidar/karmic guide/kiki loop from thereAbsolute nut
>>98030203>>Pop rectoralways have it you shall
>>98030007you have to eat all the eggs.
>>9802987032 lands is pretty degenerate even with a low mana curve. You don't need land tutors like cultivate or rampant growth with elves since you're going full dork. I wouldn't worry about poison counters. The non-elf creatures are almost wholly unnecessary. Get pic related.
>>98030007You can't handle my extra combats Izzet-player. My combats would kill you.
I want to clap Rachel Weeks' cheeks.
>>98030441this but Voxy
I love this little fella, but I've never won a single game with him. I've come very close, many, many times but he draws so much damn hate he gets taken out. Have fun though...
>>98026223>threat assessment is just identifying the handful of strongest cards in a meta deckYou fundamentally don't understand threat assessment as a concept.
>>98026537adventures.dec?
Built this bitch out of the remnants of a ketramose deck I had laying around, and jesus christ he's fun in a lower power table>Grinds card advantage in boros>Makes 3/2 bodies by just doing basic game actions>Flashback/unearth/escape/collect evidence/etc all grind you 3/2 bodies>Get wrathed? Sure whatever, end step exile inconsequential cards from your gy, rebuild before you untap>Turns any recursion loop into bodies>Game needs to end? -4 your board, play whatever flavour of "can't block my shit" you want, swing out
>>98030505planeswalker commanders are gay
card draw AND wincon in the command zone
>>98030518How can Quintorius be a wincon on his own he doesnt exile cards from the yard retard
Slivers are fun when you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you they're boring.
Slivers are boring when you don't have a bitch in your ear telling you they're fun.
>>98030546Had slivers built with this as the commander, turns out a decent amount of naya slivers are base 2/2s anyway, so you're drawing easy 4-5 cards resolving your commander and then pumping them on swing
>>98030546I want a fateseal commander but theyll never print one
>>98030573never say never, they've printed a couple cards with gravestorm in recent commander decks
>>98030573After they printed a clash commander in MKM I official gave up saying they'll never bring back a random old mechanic for a precon deck.
>>98028778Old foils don't pringle dummy
>>98030546The problem is Slivers are a solved equation, and they get boring as a result.>First as commander>deck contains all the staples to get flying, trample, death touch, etc etc>deck has the WUBRG Slivers like Overlord, Hivelord, Legion, etc>deck has tutors and the 0 cost suspend cards (Profane tutor, Ancestral Vision, etc)>play First>cascade into a tutor spell or sliver (overlord, homing)>get Legion>play Legion>congrats everyone is dead because all your Slivers are flying with double strike and 20/20
>>98030505>>98030518Based B2 kiddo
>>98030594Are you clinically retarded?
>>98030584Clash is cool as fuck and im glad they made this butmost clash cards arent in fucking dimir so it doesnt really let you play with much of the actual card pool that actually fucking has the mechanic
>>98030608Instead of "i maek a rat" its "i maek a spirit" and I wouldn't have it any other way
As a new player how the fuck do you even make a deck? Like how do I narrow down the literal thousands of cards that match my colors to find stuff?
>>98030546perhaps the same could be said of all tribes
>>98030607nah being a solved equation is the dream of all decks>a deck that plays itself is a bonus for casuals, casual format rememberand other tribal decks are just mad that eldrazi and slivers>both wotc creations btw, imagine not batting for the home teamare the best tribes in edh
>>98030645>As a new player how the fuck do you even make a deck?anyone can make a deck for you, question is are you going to like it
>>98030645How I usually build decks is>EDHrec for a basic skeleton>figure out what cards in the deck are good for it>go to scryfall and search those cards>go to tags to try and find other cards that are similar>gradually do this until your deck is sufficiently not cookie cutter
>>98030403Yeah, Dionus is alr on my list but nobody seems to trade them or they sell fastAlso just bought Marwen,and want to get Tromell, for counters, Patriarch's Bidding & Haunting Voyage for Recursion maybe?aNYWAYS, Here's a Want List for cards that may be good on for the deckhttps://moxfield.com/decks/NL_XKYFtjUqDrYGGaFJRyw
>as a new player
>still the best basic lands ever made, to the point where Brian Kibler uses them exclusively
>>98030689>>98030689>>98030689
>>98030645You just gotta go with the flow anon, either build your commander around the deck or build the deck around your commander
>>98027473What the fuck are you talking about? Food tokens are artifact tokens.
>>98030693why?
>>98030645>pick a guy you like>throw some lands, removal, and ramp in there>then find some stuff that helps your guy do his thing>stop when you hit 100
>>98030729The game is dying anon...
