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>>98040828riptide or a russ
>>98040824okay but make them anime as fuck and move like fucked up puppets with jerky horror movements. bonus points if they have a fucked up Blame! aesthetic.
>>98040828I have a Stompa but I rarely use it. Ive used it in a few apocalypse games but only once in a standard game.
I'm gonna play 40k after like 3 years how TF do I play Eldar now?
Dark Eldar and Night Lords alliance soon
Are all Dark Angels just brooding sticks in the mud or are there some good characters with interesting stories?
I like orks :D
>>98040866All Dark Angels are just brooding sticks in the mud.
>>98040866Cypher is the most interesting Dark Angel. Too bad his model is ugly.
>>98040853Half your models are legends.
I know it was talked about when it was first released, but I just finished assembling this guy, and goddamn its so unnecessarily busy. literally every direction of it has something that is meant to be eye catching, and it makes me feel dizzy just looking at it. I was originally wanting to make a diorama around it to make a funny bit for the collage, but I think adding anything extra would only exacerbate the problem.
>>980408991. There is nothing wrong with models being legends, they still have rules and are playable in any game of 40k2. I dont think anything here is legends other than maybe some of the wraith construct loadouts
>>98040872I really like their aesthetics and secretive stuff and since they seem to be the biggest chapter arguably after Ultras and BAs I was expecting a myriad of stories and cool characters but..everyone says they don't really have good books. >>98040876yeah..but he's a fallen mystery mary sue, wish a character like that was part of the chapter. And maybe someone who has gained some distance to the shame of the hunt of the fallen and cracks jokes about it while simultaneously being their best fallen hunter or something like that I'd like to see. Since the DA are the "we're the first, we know best about this" ultra pragmatic dudes it would be fitting for them to have some cynical irony poisoned characters but who really get down to it when shit gets real. I've only read the lion book and some of the fallen were kind of like that, like the swordmaster. Like I don't want marvel quips, but using dark humour to deal with their fucked up choics of prioritizing fallen would be one way to write some of them instead of only the ultra serious types.
11th approaches. Are you ready to do your duty for James?
>>98040924I am…
>>98040899This is why my group never stopped playing 7th. nu40k sucks.
>>98040828Stormsurge. It’s dogshit, but s26 ap-6 d12 is the funniest shit ever.
>>98040866You want good characters, join the traitors
>>98040947Heresy.
>>98040950heresy is epic
>>98040936You will not be given a dark eldar refresh. Psychic phase is not coming back. The lion and guilliman's conversation will not be of import. My licensing powers will pass to everyone, whoring it to every conceivable project no matter the quality until I am ready to come down hard on fan creators again.
This is fucking stupid
>>98040956
>>98040967he's been busy
>>98040967you don't like his octopus costume? he made it himself
>Enter War Game shop>See tons of other War Games besides Warhammer>Warhammer is $60 while the rest are around $50 or $60
>>98040970kekthx for being an excellent scene partner anon <3
>>98040977Is there a point you're trying to make?
>>98040967>most autistic of the autistic legion asks about the skulls and stuff >"we clad ourselves in midnight and the flesh of the guilty to terrify them into goodness" or something >assumes more means better
>>98040985Despite dominating the market GW doesn't leverage their popularity to offer lower prices and undercut their competitors.
>>98040985That are all War Games $50 and up?
>>98040970>>98040936this is my favorite movie
>>98040967like many marines I go back and forth in finding them really compelling and embarassingly retarded
>>98041035it was the first dvd I watched, it's still so good, endlessly quotable
>>98040865Okay but like what do you actually want them to do? Just write a severan dominate kind of bargain between them in the lore? Have a soup Detachment? Get a single mercenary unit or one named character in the codex of the other one?
>>98041030WargameGame of War$50 and Up
>>98040853You got Wraiths and Warlocks or Aspect Warriors, though at the end of 10th I've seen a couple people playing infantry spam with Eldar and do pretty good, like a lot of storm guardians. I don't know how that list works though. >>98041027>leverage their popularity to offer lower pricesThat's completely backwards.
The objectively correct ranking of codex quality in 10th edition.
>>98041027>Despite dominating the market GW doesn't leverage their popularity to offer lower prices and undercut their competitorsThey barely have any competitors that actually matter. When a corporation has what is almost a monopoly they will always raise the prices, not lower them.
Grungy industrial base I finished
>>98041133the cropped avatar makes me think the dude who made this is really retarded, but I’ll let it slide because orks are at the top.orks! orks! orks!
Were Gambits a good addition?
>>98041153love it! question though, is that green thing meant to be a beer bottle or a party hat?
>>98040967What would Curze say to this particular son of his?
>>98041133We should start predicting 11 edition
>>98041161Bottle of... Something. I was thinking 7up or similar
>>98041133those two retards couldnt even manage to not fuck up a very simple tier list format
>>98041133is this some sort of sloptuber content i should know?
>>98040967Wouldnt this only scary humans? Do knightlords only ever fight guard and human civies?
>>98041202I dont know as an Ork/Grot enthusiast that amount of hands may be scary... or laughable.
>>98041199>sloptuber contentyes>I should know?No
>>98041133Custodes, AdMech, and DEldar are definitely not worse than Imperial fucking Agents
>>98041213the book or the faction?
>>98041133To this date I still wonder... Why Imperial Agents exist?
>>98041202yeah, they’re wandering pirates who want to destroy the imperium of man, they don’t need or want to fight anything other than guardsmen and civilians.
>>98041202>Do knightlords only ever fight guard and human civies?As much as possible yes.
>>98041133the GSC codex getting its rules rewritten before it even hit shelves an then getting rewritten several times after that, all after the index also had several complete redesigns of its core mechanic, is just the most unprofessional shit ever. GSC players lived through like 6 editions in the span of a single edition
>>98041229Because somebody decided it was a good idea to make a bunch of gulp shitto sub-factions and kill teams for the Imperium without any forethought as to how they'd fit into the game.
>>98041241The whole sordid affair of going from Index to Codex and getting:>"FREE WARGEAR!">Wow but some of this shit is impossible to balance like why would I ever not take hand flamers on everything>"it's FREE">Ok I guess I am modeling hand flamers on acolytes now no matter what>Also these demo charges are sick and our index rules suck for getting Acolytes into close combat so I guess we're just doing this now>"Heyyyy so uh I guess it's weird that all those autopistol models just kind of suck so now we are making Acolytes into two different units and the hand flamer ones never get to have mining weapons, just demo charges k thanks">"Oh but we don't really have a nice little divide like that to split metamorphs on so have the most schizophrenic bespoke rule imaginable based entirely on whether you happened to model everyone with one pistol or the other"Is one of the biggest factors that turned me off playing for the rest of the edition.
>>98041202>>98041234>>98041240Shouldn't nightlords be terrible in combat if they're always picking easy fights? I guess that's kind of what happened when they got bodied by ultramarines and later dark angels post curze.
Why did the Imperial Fists get the accolades while the Iron Warriors got none?
How do I get a 40k gf?
>>98041263>"glup shitto">its a Rogue Trader and crew
>>98041263MOM! Grab Anon’s meds! He’s calling any release that’s not a cadian or space marine a glup shitto again!
>>98041278I think glup shitto being used without irony is a sign someone is in a nerd hobby that isn’t for him.
>>98041271Because Dorn wasn’t a petulant manchild.
>>98041275>TauI thought girls were into nids
>>98041270definitely below legions who constant go after the biggest threats possible, but they’re still well trained, and saw plenty of combat during the horus heresy which proved their efficiency, and they continue to see combat whenever the traitor legions get into yet another squabble.
>>98040828>tq every now and then i unzip big green for a game
>>98041284what even means glup shitto i'm tired of this buzzwords from tik tok generation
>>98041298niggas be fighting on a football field
>>98041270Yes, you guessed right Night Lords are one of the weakest and shitiest legions. Obsessed with Imperium, bloodthirsty and fast but without real strength. Like Curze.
>>98041278Yes, as in background characters who 99% of the player base don't know the fucking name of or care about. Even if you wanted to field a rogue trader and their retinue, the appeal would almost certainly be highly customizable team of /yourguys/.
>>98041229>To this date I still wonder... Why Imperial Agents exist?Because assassins and the inquisition are baller? Don't squat them pls.
>>98041270They are. I skimmed the first 20(!) post heresy notable engagements involving nightlords. They win 4 that aren't against arbites, PDF and civilians. One against the eldar, who are an entire species of jobbers, one because they had a titan legion aiding them, one because they had the red corsairs and one because they had the black legion. They're not good at war. They're good at terror.
>>98041300Glup Shitto is a nonsense mockery name meant to evoke the sort of name you'd find on a character who was on screen for 3 seconds with no lines in the background of a Star Wars prequel film that the autistic fandom became obsessed with and sois the fuck out if they happen to appear again in modern media, or possibly have an entire streaming miniseries dedicated to them.
>>98041308>>98041313based I love them for that
>>98041282Are you going to pretend like you remembered Elucia Vhane and this team of nobodies even existed until just now?
>>98041293>girls are a hivemindI only wish boys were the same. imagine if every boy liked orks…
>>98041312I can agree but you really want them trapped in the fruit salad that is Imperial Agents? A weird amalgam of imperium concepts and horrible kill teams? Death would be better.
>>98041318>Star WarsThe root of all evil with modern need content.
>>98041318This includes the OG films as well, like the werewolf guy in the Cantina's name is Lak Sivrak,, or the devil guy named Kardue'sai'Malloc. Let us not blame the prequels for this, it is a Lucas/Corporate toy mind aimed to sell bullshit
>>98041341Oh absolutely, but the character the Glup Shitto name clearly takes inspiration from is a prequel character (hence the picture) so it's what I used to paint the picture.
How do Night Lords recruit people to be crewmen in their ships? They can't all be slaves. With Chaos they can seduce people with promises of power or sonne shit, Night Lords just hate everyone.
>They can't all be slavesWhy not?
>>98041326As long as individual units can still be called into pretty much any imperium army, sure, axe em, but does it not make sense for the Inquisition to be its own faction as well?
>>98041352The legion's whole schtick is using fear and intimidation to get their way. I don't think it's hard to convince your average person to pick being a serf over becoming a lampshade.
>>98041270Accept kurze 1 v 1 corax somehow. I guess the plot called for it
Should I buy a resin printer to print a Phantom Titan?
>>98041271Perty subdued and convinced demon prince angron to fight for horus before the siege of terra.
>>98041352In the imperium you'll likely be on administratum lists where all your taxes are counted down to the last penny and you're in several registers and the state takes a lot of intrerest in maximziing your output. NLs are too lazy for that shit, they just act in broad strokes and demand the ship to work, otherwise they don't give a fuck. You might get turned into a lampshade randomlyif one of them is bored or feels extra psycho that day, but otherwise you're likely to be left alone a lot more and have freeer reins as long as the ship moves through space successfully and your section isn't blamed for it when the ship has problems.
>>98041384Get one.I wish I did earlier. I’m trying to sell excess minis to recoup the payments I’ve made.
>>98041382strongest sleep aid in the 40k galaxy
>>98041382I think primarchs are pretty much just gods at whatever their genetic code designed them to be from birth. The lion and Curze will always body Lorgar because they're simply made to be better fighters, even if they sat on the sofa for 200 years. I believe Corax was never a top duelist was he?
>>98041352the night lords trilogy goes over this pretty well that they just either kidnap kids and indoctrinate them into being a serf to the night lords, kidnap people who are already in such dire straits that the night lords seem like a step up, or they pluck them out from “neutral” areas that have friendly relations to CSM where night lords are the most preferable faction to be shanghaied with because they generally leave you alone as long as you do as you’re told.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
Whats your favourite daemonic/mutant that isnt part of daemons of chaos?For me its these guys. Poxwalkers are gun to paint but theyre basically just zombies...azombies...and do emperors children have an equivalent to these kinds of units? I havent played since..8tsince..8th or 9th
>>98041400Does this mean that in a weird way the NL are the best csm to be stuck with above the other csm alternatives?
>>98041399I dunno ive only read some of the HH novels outside of codexes. But corax almost kills lorgar in one and gets saved by kurze of all people
>>98041403The big guys and human sized guys, the rest are fairly generic plague beasties/not-nurglings, but the rest of the gellerpox are fun horrorshow shit that just doesn't exist anywhere else in any chaos range despite being 200% on brand.
>>98041321I don’t think anyone gives a fuck about the character herself. everyone just likes that she’s a cool model that is different from standard military stuff let alone space marine release #162
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98041403Sorry my phone keyboard is fucked
>>98041406If you love living in perpetual darkness and getting hunted and skinned for sport, sure. The "best" CSM to be stuck with would probably be a freshly fallen band of traitors that are still clinging to some level of civility/discipline.
>>98041400>>98041406indoctrinate? what ideology could the NLs possibly have to pass on? why wouldn't the new NLs just go the revenge route?
>>98041420Fair enough.I remember that there is an imperial fists base that got fisted twice by the iron warriors for geneseed.Does this mean that csm still make new marines from boys?If true has the concept of reluctant csm pondering the point of their fight been explored where they never had a choice to fight for or against the imperium?
>>98041414>everyone just likes that she’s a cool modelDo they? I've never heard anybody talk about how cool they think these models are. Maybe if they had committed to the BDSM ninja bit with the assassin. Frankly, they just look like AoS models with lasguns to me.
Which faction has the most slampigs?
>>98041411I believe Corax is a mid-tier combatant together with Guilliman. Lorgar is bad. Top tier is Fulgrim, Curze, lion, Sanguinius, maybe Russ and uh , Angron should be good too but always loses for some reason., treated like a bloodthirster.
>>98041275Tell me when you find out I want one too
>>98041436Votann
>>98041438Angron gets betrayed by the plot but he is literal top tier Warrior.
>>98041406Let’s see>unlivable living conditions Death Guard>Liable to murder you without provocation Emperor’s Children World Eaters>Liable to sacrifice you to daemons Word Bearers Thousand SonsIron Warriors>Wildcard/Melting PotBlack LegionAlpha LegionSo yes, Night Lords are probably the “best” of the mainline CSM aside from Red Corsairs, but as >>98041420 said its still going to be a horrible experience.
>>98041438>maybe russI know space wolves get a lot of hate here because of one guy but was leman russ really kind of a jobber?
can ghazkull take 1 on 1 any primarch?
>>98041436Beast Snaggas
Was at an lgs to buy 40k stuff and it has a hygiene sign.I shower and apply deodorant not just on my pita but I feel that might not be enough now.There may have been an incident of someone smelling really bad.By chance do some neckbeards in the tournament scene deliberately set themselves to smell bad so their opponents have their concentration thrown off?
>>98041438>FulgrimI always hated his daemon form because I thought he should stay being the perfect flamboyant duelist, and priding himself on being the most elegant and best in that sport, looking like Griffith with details of him revealing his daemonic nature.
>>98041318I've seen it used differently. Glup Shittos don't have fans but the company and marketing team are churning out merch for literally everything possible and milking every frame of the franchise, so they'll pretend everyone cares about random Jizz musician 3
>>98041450I didn't read HH, but I was always under the impression that his biggest actual accomplishment was beating up the nerdy wizard Primarch? Even then, he couldn't finish the job because the wizards did wizard shit and teleported away.
>>98041341Arguably Bobba Fett was a Glup Shitto at one point
>>98041436>most fatties death guard>most female fattiesvotann>most hungry fattiestyranids >most fat assesorks
>>98041461I think the designers wanted fulcrum’s daemon model to not resemble that one wfb character who is also blonde and flamboyant.
>>98041444so a jobber then
>>98041469Well all they had to do was give Fulgrim a proper pair of pants, instead of assless chaps, and that problem is fixed.
>>98041469>fulcrumAutocorrect got me.My pc is busted so I can only phonepost at the moment.
>>98041460Depends on the LGS but sometimes is really crazy the fucking lack of personal hygiene of some individuals enjoying this hobby.
>>98040967Nightlords have an unfortunate combination of the best books and worst looks.
>>98041469I honestly think AoS did a better job with Slaanesh than 40k
>>98041473If I was in charge the daemon primarch fulgrim model would be a big naked Griffith model with daemon horns.And he would have a big dick.An uncut penis and hairless balls.But gw wouldn’t allow something like that as they’re oddly trying to make the setting palatable for kids.Which I found weird.
>>98041448Thousand Sons liberate psykers from all over the imperium to come join them on the planet of sorcerers as part of their overall goal to create a wizard empire. Maybe you have to serve as a thrall wizard under some sorcerer or even become a thousand sons sorcerer yourself. Or maybe they just sacrifice you for some ritual who knows. Tzeentch loves plots though and sorcerer or not if you are crafty maybe he will help you stand a chance there
>>98041479>best booksCitation needed. The first book was good, the rest of the trilogy went downhill, fast.
>>98041476I've walked into anime conventions where the stench hits you like an invisible wall of swamp ass. Autism and god-awful body odor unfortunately have a strong correlation.
>>98041319They're delightfully cartoon evil.
>>98041467>in the main movie>had multiple speaking lines>tracked down the falcon and thus moved the plot along>had plenty of appearances that weren’t even necessary (him walking down a hallway, standing by vader’s side during dinner, ect.) >kidnapped one of the main characters which leads into the next movie if that’s a glup shitto, then literally everyone who isn’t a main character in the mainline media is a glup shitto which is complete madness.
>>98041485All cult legions seems pretty ass choices to enlist even with the promise of "daemonhood"
>>98041476I fear being like one of them one day.Or it is probably too late.>>98041482Funny I you say that when gw wanted slaanesh out of aos.I think the last remnant of that is archaon’s model not having a slaaneshi head.Back to 40k I think a lot of the sexual side of slaanesh has been toned down and left as subtle hints in books instead of getting properly offensively descriptive.I always found that a bit weird.Ironically the daemonculabalalala marine maker was pretty slaaneshi and that was the iron warrior’s thing.
>>98041495i wonder how james will bring back curze
>>98041495That one time they try to out terror the Dark Eldar and learn what real terror is like is pretty funny too.
>>98041479I read through the books not knowing in detail what they looked like and was thoroughly disappointed once i looked them up. I really liked how they salvaged armor from other legions and were described as scrappy, that doesn't come through in the tabletop models, they just look like lego models with that bright red and over the top crests, and those lightning streaks just make it look too overdesigned.
>>98041502Clone of curze would be it.Cat’s out of the bag may as well work with it.It isn’t a bad cat either to be honest.I just prefer avoiding named characters unless they are just being used for stats of someone’s homebrew character.
>>98041450He got one punched by the lion after failing to take him out by attacking him unprovoked. Russ' a jobber, always has been. HH just added to it with Angron bashing him and Russ failing to take out Horus.
>>98041497Idk being a superhuman space wizard sounds fun
>>98041513Now I’m getting curious about who the second biggest jobber is.The planetary defense forces are the biggest jobbers in my opinion.
>>98041511Night Lord's aesthetics feel like a product of Todd McFarlane-esque, 90's comic book edge.
How is the warhammer community site so fucking annoying to browse holy shit.
>>98041511>I really liked how they salvaged armor from other legions and were described as scrappyNight lords could be really cool if they didn't have their own armour design. If each one was wearing a a suit of different armour marks, that are damaged, war scarred and pockmarked, each coming from different chapters. So they just look like a combination of different chapters. Alpha Legion as well could use that type of aesthetic
>>98041529No way bro, next thing you're gonna tell me they have certain Batman vibes too
Has there ever been a planet with species so foul or polluted that the Nids tried and failed to eat it?
>>98041469>>98041461It was based on this old gem.
>>98041443>>98041468>tfw no dwarf wife
>>98041543Dwarf females look like this. Sorry bro.
Is the plan to release detachment previews for all the factions before 11th ed? So that will finish up by the end of this month? And then the edition launches? or just pre-orders for the launch box?
>>98041502His soul's in the Crown of Night eldar soul stone. Its why the eldar tried to take out Zso Sahaal. He's going to posses Decimus.
>>98041529it looks cooler in comic book art but, not a good fit for actual models imo
>>98041546that's a woman?
>>98041540Well, Necrons. They avoid them.
>>98041539who pissed in your coffee this morning
Trains
>>98041461Its kind of strange no BL hack or codex short story has written a perfect, princely/regal looking Slaaenshi champion character that leds an army of horrific looking monsters,chaos spawn/daemon princes. I like how Berserk had Griffith looking so perfect and controlling the apostels made people think they should look past that these demonic monsters are clearly evil and see them as ugly and scary looking servents of good. 40k could use a 'yes you can trust my army of literally inhuman monsters because I look so perfect and charming and human'.
>>98041485apparently most suckers who join the thousand sons but aren't actually powerful enough just end up becoming helbutes or some other mutant (i hate this obvious excuse to have helbrutes in at all) but if they are gonna go with this concept at all we should have an infantry unit of new recruits who act as a middle ground between rubrics and tzaangors. or some kind of mutant sorcerer
>>98041560A cultist unit comprised of human psykers all firing off the best magic missile they can manage after a week of training would be cool. Obviously give them overcharge so they can blow themselves up.
>>98041526Lamenters, maybe Crimson Fists. The entire Eldar race fated to doom. I feel like SoB lose a lot too but that's just a vibe.
>>98041558early word bearers did a lot of this, wish they'd stayed like that
I want to immerse myself in some good stories. Favorite BL book?
>Currently building "airborne" guard force>1000 points, nothing but drop troops, flyers and sentinels>See new AFV>Now thinking of a light armoured company that links up and fights along my bridgehead niggers.Tell me this would be cool and I should do it. Only issue is that there's not much else to include with the AFVs considering that the half tracks are gay looking and i'm not going to use them.
>>98041576I liked The Watcher in the Rain short story.
>>98041576favorite faction?
>>98041542Alright that makes more sense thank you.>primarchs existed back in ye old daysWas there hatred of primarchs back then or were they handled differently that made them acceptable?>>98041543What stopped gw from making the female dwarf girls look attractive?
>>98041586>What stopped gw from making the female dwarf girls look attractive?Larry Fink, but also GW only has British women for inspiration
>>98041586>Was there hatred of primarchs back then or were they handled differently that made them acceptable?They were myths connected to the founding myth of the Imperium, the Horus Heresy and not known personailites. Daemons primarchs were 10k year damned fallen sons of the Emperor, but the loyalist Primarchs weren't 'good' like they are now. The loyalists could have been just as evil and selfish as their daemon brothers but simply didnt fall to chaos.
>>98041589There’s got to be more than that.A lot of nerd media is having significant amounts of females presented as less than attractive.What’s wrong with attractive women in fantasy media anyways?
>>98041586Same thing that prevents them from making any females attractive
>>98041586GW is unable of make attractive female models and even if they had the intention they will find a way to ruin them.
>>98041556I need a good Thomas the tank engine stl and a khorne lord of skulls stl to make a proper daemon engine.The joke will probably get old fast though.
>>98041558
>>98041505They try to do it to GSC too and got their ass handed by some nids LARPing as humans
>>98041614Anybody got that Ferrus manus and ruby from rwby berserk edit?
>>98041595Female neuroticism is getting out of control, but because both sexes prefer women, it is totally unchecked.
>>98041406>The Night Lords also have a bit of a dichotomy in regards to their treatment of slaves, with non-essential personnel being free to hunt for shits and giggles, while higher level officers and artificers are usually valued and protected to the point where they can have casual conversations and banter with the Astartes. The latter is something you don't see even in a good chunk of Loyalist chapters. Some of the Night Lords, like Talos, have even been seen to form pseudo-friendships with some of their mortal crew members.
>>98041543thats just a dark iron dwarf isnt it
>>98041595There is a big cultural shift away from conventionally attractive women in pop-culture, primarily thanks to blue-haired progressives throwing fits on twitter. 2016 was a decade ago but these companies still live in fear of a vocal minority of online culture warriors calling them misogynist chuds. To a certain degree these people co-opted the actual creative process, but that's more in the ttrpg and comics scene. I can't wait for the pendulum to finally swing back the other way.
>>98041505Lore context please?>>98041617This too please?
>>98041576Daemon World. Space Marine, the Ian Watson one. Eisenhorn Trilogy. Gothic War series. 1st Shira Calpurnia novel. Storm of Iron. Night Lord trilogy. Word Barer Trilogy. HH 1-3. They're all bad but stop for real after that, you'll get brain damage. Its too late for me. Deff Squadron. The Redeamer.
>>98041626>that picWhen has self inserting ever been a good thing in any fictional media?I personally can’t see it ever working in 40k.
>>98041586>Was there hatred of primarchs back then or were they handled differently that made them acceptable?The epic rules for the daemon princes weren't that good, they were fun but not OP. The index astartes articles were a good rough outline of the legions and primarchs as seen 10K later so vague enough it worked better. We didn't realize how lame it would get.
>>98041624It is.Dark Iron Dwarf women sexo.
Eldar are both the bad guys and the good guys of the setting. Humans are too half assed to be either.
>>98041270>>98041294>>98041308>>98041313I'm gonna break a lance in favor the NL. They're the most fragmented legion, they have no big power like a primarch or chaos god to back them up, and are always outnumbered and outgunned cause they don't hold any daemon or forgeworlds to replace their losses. They're shown to be great individual warriors multiple times but they don't have the resources, numbers or discipline cause they act more like pirates which leads to them getting buckbroken every time. When the NL faced the Dark Angels during the HH they were able to bring the DA to a stalemate for 3 years and the DA were only able to break said stalemate it because they used DAoT shit deus ex machina.
>>98041638I think the closest equivalent we've seen in 40k is Mike Brooks trying to reinvent the Deldar as counter-culture gay icons.
>>98041642Eldars=NPCsNothing more, nothing less.
>>98041626>I can't wait for the pendulum to finally swing back the other way.Anon, it already did after trump won in a landslide, many companies dropped their “woke/DEI” schtick in fear of the wind blowing them down. the problem is that now that’s he’s turned out to be arguably the worst president of all time as soon as he’s out of office the pendulum is going to swing back even harder, and it’ll be even worse than 2020.
>>98041654You can't call the baddie faction mere NPCs
>>98041627NL pulled a classic marine move against the GSC.Send a half ass invasion force to take a Hive from a known infested GSC planet and Hive.Marines regularly get their chapters decimated when facing genestealers in close environments like Space hulks. So obviously the sane thing to do is to send a token force to capture an entire Hive infested with genestealers.
>>98041382>I guess the plot called for itThats literally the in universe explanation. Since Curze was "fated" to die after the heresy, anytime he got in a fight above his skill level, his foresight kicked in and allowed him to not die
>>98041657At least I was smart enough to never feel any hope
>>98041627Genestealers are canonically what space marines fear most in the galaxy
>>98041382>SomehowCorax is a mid tier primarch at best that relies on ambushing you to get anything done. Outside of that his only positive trait is that he cares about civilians.
>>98041270>Shouldn't nightlords be terrible in combat if they're always picking easy fights?they are
>>98041586>they handled differently that made them acceptable?this was in warhammer epic which is apocalypse but smaller and on steroids which means there’s no chance for any individualization of anyone on the battlefield, and it made sense for there to be a daemon primarch there when there are hundreds of men, dozens of tanks, and titans fighting.
>>98041657Trump only made the culture war grifters go crazier. We still haven't seen western-made pop culture recover, imo. I tried to think of an exception to the "no cheesecake allowed" zeitgeist we currently are stuck in and the only examples that came to mind were stuff made by east Asians, like picrel. Regardless, Trump isn't going to make a UK company like GW suddenly change their stance on attractive women.
>>98041580I did listen to that one, it was very good. Very unique.>>98041584>favorite factionInquisition stuff probably, but eisenhorn didn't quite do it for me. I wonder sometimes if looking for your favorite faction is to the detriment since you'll more likely to be picky maybe in exactly what you want there, I dunno. There are prob a ton of other books like it though.>>98041628thx, going to see if any of these catch my interest. Read nl trilogy, read 1st Eisenhorn, was okay, but it didn't quite grip me. A daemon world book? That sounds intriguing, sounds hard to pull off.To both of you, are the Eisenhorn sequels and Ravenor spinoffs any different from the first one or about the same?
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>>98041594Did people think that the HH was very different in technology and feel of the world and the astartes tech and bolters and stuff was just part of what survived or did people picture something very different? I always found it a bit jarring that the HH books feel like 40k just with less church elements basically, and then absolutely nothing happened for 10k years.
>>98041687I've always thought genestealers and gsc should have two stat lines.The regular one and the one used when facing marines. You know for lore reasons.
>>98041341>t is a Lucas/Corporate toy mind aimed to sell bullshitPerhaps the same could be said about warhammer, or anything really. Sometimes corporate needs that Poochy that needs to be on screen all the time and if he isn't, people need to ask about it
>>98041650Did they forget the rune on Talo's helmet? I love the night lords, they're the perfect mix of keenly aware of everyone else's faults and blissfully unaware of how they shoot themselves in the dick every time. They're great foils.
>>98041714And time to find an stl.Special military operation means bmm will take too long.Unless the operation is gonna end soon.Has a Russian or Chinese site that focuses on professional stl remakes of models been made yet where the copies could be mistaken as leaked CAD files in being that good?>>98041650I remember seeing some night lord pics with a white haired woman.Not sure what the context is or if the woman is a rich fujo’s self insert she is commissioning art pieces like the black lion Ultramar guy.
>>98041727>Special military operation means bmm will take too long.I ordered from black legion minis last month and it only took like 2-3 weeks
>>98041727Bmm always took fucking months. ALWAYS.
>>98041716It should feel very different but the BL authors that started writing the HH books simply lacked the skill to create that type of world and display it.Early accounts of the HH is very different to what it is now
>>98041727You mean Sevatar with the child?
>>98041653*CorsairsDEldar being gay is their main culture. Corsair are counterculture to the craft world who don't like their PDA homosexual or otherwise
>>98041638Game journalist Jessica Chobot got a self insert as space journalist Diana Allers in Mass Effects 3. That was a good thing because I installed a fat tits mod, then I further modded her dress into a cow print
>>98041540Anything with a very active amount of Necrons is a big [No], same as that one time they tried to invade a fully infested Nurgle world, Necromunda quite literally has a bunch of genestealers who they do not answer the fucking phone and i am certain Catachan is a major fucking No, probably the #1 world to avoid right next to necron tomb worlds because at least the dormant ones still got some biomass in them until they hit the funny pyramids, Catachan? It would probably take a full hive fleet like Leviathan to actually devour it whole, but that sounds like pain.
>>98041750Anon the reason Catachan is the way that it is is that some ancient Tyranid invasion got cut off from the Hive Mind and went feral and morphed into all that horrific jungle shit.
>>98041743I remember cos she's really ugly and she dresses in a way that is supposed to look sexy but looks dumpy and unflattering as fuck.
>>98041650>they were able to bring the DA to a stalemate for 3 yearsThat's kind of nuts. I think one way they could do this however is by using underhanded tactics. Sure the DA won't flinch to exterminatus planets, but I don't even think they could expect just how cruel and devious NLs would be to win, I'm thinking inserting bombs in civilians insides joker type shit. I also think most NLs had way more experience actually killing other SMs before the HH broke out just by nature of their gang background and legion culture which likely wasn't too different from how it is now. And I'm not talking honor sparring duels, this is cold blooded anything goes killing. That's how I like to think of it, but maybe none of that comes through in those stories laying out that war in prose.
What did you guys like best about old editions in terms of rules that no longer exists today?
>>98041627Pic related
>>98041743Allers was a dumb addition. If they absolutely had to have had an imbedded reporter, it should have made Khalisah al-Jilani. She was actually in the past two games and there could have been a J. Jonah Jameson-style character arc where she begrudgingly learns to respect Shepherd.
>>98041759Catachan being a tyranid thing just makes no sense because the implication a hive fleet, let alone a splinter fleet would rebel against A HIVE MIND is incomprehensible, especially when said hivemind is actually smart, cunning and brutal (no orks) to the point of it disabling its mind control over genestealer cults to make them watch in horror the shit they brought over as they get eaten alive.Catachan should just be one of those one in a billion chance worlds that got some shit that makes everything else look tiny. Sometimes some worlds should be super duper fucking awful in ways Chaos and Xenos wish they could be on their own, that's what makes them special.Then again, i don't work at GW so i don't have an authority over this.
>>98041766Wargear.List building is just not enjoyable without it.
>>98041775Hive Fleets don't rebel, anon, but sometimes all the synapse is killed and the instinctive stuff goes feral and starts mutating.
>>98041687Genestealers being able to take on space marines and pierce their armor with their claws always seemed dumb to me, that should be reserved to many tyranids doing it through gaps or some big bioform, not something of similar stature as them.
>>98041775would rebel *or sever its connection*
>>98041687Nice reading comprehension moron
>>98041785>Genestealers being able to take on space marines and pierce their armor with their claws always seemed dumb to meThat's because genestealer models haven't done justice to their claws (or their size) since they were remade in 4th edition. You have to go back to the old models and art to see what they're supposed to look like. BIG, BEEFY, THICK fucking claws, and they're supposed to be taller than Marines. In the Space Hulk lore they just pull the fucking Terminators apart, usually tearing the heads off.
>>98041729>blm took weeks To Canada?>>98041731Really? It’s been a while since I made an order from bmm.>>98041737Yeah referencing that.What’s the lore context of all that if it exists? Is it good plot?
>>98041761Yeah lol. She reminds me of Jersey Shore. So, "trampy" is the word?>>98041769Jilani is my favorite, but she was antagonistic. Emily Wong, though, we had worked together with her. It should've been her.Her and her tummy revealing dress.
>>98041800>space hulk mentionedWhats the lore justification for why a hulk isn’t boarded by loads of guardsmen or tech priests and instead by cumbersome huge terminator armor wearing space marines in an environment of mostly tight corridors?
>>98041650>picthat's great, is there a full comic?
>>98041790fuck off anon, the text doesn't specify who fears them the most. The average citizen has no knowledge about them so they arte feared and dreaded the most by those who face them the most. Which would be space marines on space hulks, and maybe Inquistors who actually know about them
>>98041812>its this argument againbecause the environment is extremely hostile to non terminator levels of armor
>>98041812Space Hulks are hazardous environments full of hard vacuum, radiation that will kill an unsuited person in minutes, plasma leaks, toxic atmospheres and other horrific shit. Terminator suits were originally created specifically to handle stuff like this, that's their whole purpose.
>>98041803>What’s the lore context of all that if it exists? Is it good plot?The NL character is captured by dark angels and put into prison. He befriends a female child astropath, he finds out she's being abused by the dark angels' prison overseer to the point she's crippled for life. She helps him break out of the prison so he can escape but then his JUSTICE geneseed kicks in (let's not forget the NL were supposed to be a legion of spooky Batmans) and instead of taking the chance to escape he goes directly to the overseer's chambers and brutally murders him for what he's been doing to the girl. Then he surrenders and allows the dark angels to peacefully take him back to his cell.>>98041821Not that I know of.
>>98041823That's not an arguement to not through bodies at a problem in 40k. Unless they're fighting through a vacuum then unprotected soldiers will be sent on mass to check something out. Hell even then they would be given void suits. Dangerous levels of radiation kills you over days, weeks sometimes months. Sending hundreds of troops to lethal levels of radiation who are going to die in the next few hours to genestealers is a non issue for the Imperium.
>>98041768They even got the upper hand on Fabius, dont mess with dark eldar.
>>98041705The eisenhorn stuff is basically the same, the Ravenor stuff feels a bit more modern or less warhammery in ways. The Bequin series is incomplete. I like it but it goes pretty off the rails in the way abnett does when no one tells him to knock it off. I've been meaning to read the Throne of Terra series. The inquisitor novels that went with the Dark Heresy release were only okay but might be worth looking at. The old school Inquisition War series is interesting but likely quite different from what you would expect this century. The Daemonifuge and Inquisitor Ascendant comic series are fun pulp too.
>>98041502Cloned by Fabius Bile, sold to Dark Eldar slave traders to fight in gladiator battles on Commorragh because he was too much to handle. If he wears the crown with his soul gem in it or touches it his original soul will possess the clone body then he'll be reborn. He'll also be twice as schizophrenic too so his first course of action will be to go fuck up Corax and save Lorgar.
>>98041803>To Canada?Western US
>>98041823Thanks anon!>again Sorry if this was a common topic.
>>98041812>we sent in ancient elite fearless warriors with centuries of battle experience in the toughest suits of infantry armour humanity has ever devised and they just barely got the job done at the cost of many battle-brother's lives despite being swarmed by thousands of horrendous xenos monsters that are faster, stronger, and tougher than even their superhuman enhanced abilities. Luckily the tight corridors funnel the xenos into chokepoints where their superior numbers are less of an issue.>hmmm... have you tried sending in a bunch of worthless fucking faggot NPC meatshield guardsmen who will shit and piss themselves in fear and whose only advantage is numbers, instead?
>>98041840Thanks anon!>>98041850Alright I’m gonna save the Russian economy with my Canadian dummy money if I find anything worth getting.Is the resin quality good and if they sell metals are they good too?I need good metal recasters bros.
>>98041775>let alone a splinter fleet would rebel against A HIVE MIND is incomprehensibleTyphon eats other hive fleets.
>>98041853>Sorry if this was a common topic.it comes up almost every time space hulk is mentioned, it is a remarkably beaten dead horse no need to apologize this is just internet bullshit
>>98041847I'd say it's the other way around. With his death his schizo multiple personality may have disappeared forever and he may come back from the spirit stone completely sane which could potentially make him a loyalist
>space hulk discussionBy chance were the votann world eating ships designed to “clean up” space hulks like glorified street sweepers?You’d think that maybe a human civilization lives in one of those too.Or at least a csm has made one a base of operations.
How horrible would it be to run a games workshop store, having to spam out engagement bait every single day and recieving 0 engagement because the store has 0 community.
>>98041867That's less of a hive fleet rebelling and more of a "survival of the fittest" the hive mind is performing, especially if the fleet is low on biomass.
>>98041875>votann world eating shipsI haven't read their lore but this feels to me like it's absolutely another case of telephone game meme that's been completely blown out of proportion and isn't real, like "Tyranids are running away from something" or "Ork belief can make anything just magically happen".>Or at least a csm has made one a base of operations.This is just explicit lore though that's existed nearly as long as Space Hulks have, yes, CSM use them all the time.
>>98041844thx anon
>>98041875Orks use them a lot. Ghazghkull's flagship was the Wurld Killa, a space hulk that passed through the Urk system that him and his boys hitched a ride on.
>>98041823Techmarines can deploy too. They have artificer, but that and their heavy cyber icing let's them survive.Until genestealers kill them. I've been sent to recover their bodies a number of times
>>98041875>You’d think that maybe a human civilization lives in one of those too.when I was a kid I made my OC chapter of space hulk veterans use a cleared out space hulk as their flagship
>>98041847>and save Lorgar.iirc that bit at the dropsite massacre has even Curze be like >lorgar, everyone hates me for being a psycho but everyone thinks you're a little bitch boy lol
>>98041884>tyranids are running Headcanon that many believe is canon? What else?>orks belief makes it workIt kind of does but a lot of fans take it too far.>>98041894>spoilerNot bad really.Really childhood imagination is beautiful.Before life erodes away that creativity.
>>98041870Curze just shows up to ask Guilliman for a job, not remembering or caring he threatened his mom 10k years ago.
>>98041892>I
>>98041860Quality is decent enough.No idea about metal. Also pretty sure they're Ukrainian. These are black legion market, not black market minis
>>98041879Potato Potato.
>>98041900>It kind of does but a lot of fans take it too far.It doesn't. This was addressed in a thread earlier today. It's just telekinesis.
>>98041903>hard plasticIs that from the recaster blm?Thanks for clearing up nationality.Might mean less shipping.>>98041905Lore sources then please?Page numbers?
>>98041909The bodies are the recasts, the guns and heads were sourced elsewhere
>>98041900>Really childhood imagination is beautiful.>Before life erodes away that creativity.I hate how true that's been
>>98041800is it strange that their weapons are Claws and Talons and not separated into Claws/Talons? One for ripping unarmored flesh with flurry of attacks, and one for crushing armor with fewer attacks.
>>98041912Thank you!Any experience with metal recasts from blm?I can’t find anything about metal models on my phone view because pc is busted.
New painter anon here, got a quick question cause every time i try and google it I get answers from years ago and am unsure what the current set of things are. Im looking to get my first models and armies and want to do it deathwatch themed cause that was my first exposure to 40k, does that mean I need to do a imperial agents army? Or do I just bootleg a different chapter codex with a black paint scheme?
>>98041909>Lore sources then please?>Page numbers?Just read all of it if you want to know lore.WAAAAGH DA ORKSEre We GoFreebootaz2nd edition Codex Orks3rd edition Codex OrksetcMostly these ones
>>98041920They usually don't have talons at all, although that is an option starting with 3rd ed Tyranids. They just use the big fuck-off claws, the little hand ones are just for grabbing.
>>98041932I don’t have the pdfs and my phone is messing up downloads somehow.>old booksI have a sinking feeling those are retconned like one wouldn’t believe so there is a chance the ork belief thing is the canon one but I’m not sure anymore.Do you think one day a bl writer will just use a loretuber as preparation and then write a book so inconsistent gw will memory hole it comically quick?
>>98041923Deathwatch is in a really weird spot right now where in 11e they will either:>Continue to have a pity index that's codex SM+>Just be another codex SM flavor with a 2 point detachment or something that permits the killteams>Get shunted back to Imperial Agents where you had just the Blackstar, watch captain and kill teamIf you wanted to play it safer with the codex space marines approach, you can just take space marines and use the deathwatch shoulder pads on them.>GW avoided talking about Deathwatch when talking about 11e space marines, but mentioned demons still existing so being wary is justified.
>>98041942>Do you think one day a bl writer will just use a loretuber as preparation and then write a book so inconsistent gw will memory hole it comically quick?You say this like BL authors don't already rape the lore every day for years and years, there's a reason most anons here just say "BL isn't canon" or "nulore ignore".
>>98041943Should I wait until 11th edition comes out then? Since ive only just gotten back into warhammer im still trying to get caught up with whats actually current vs what used to be, so is 10e still gonna be up for awhile or is it about to be shelved?
>>98041945Has this mentality reached even the normies on Reddit and other social medias?
>>9804195011th is a continuation not a hard reset edition so an amount of stuff from 10th will still be useful for awhile.
>>98041950They're swapping to 11th in about a month. The rule changes seem pretty noticeable between the editions so I'd wait and learn the new one so you're not misremembering old rules.
>>98041951>redditProbably not, no>otherTwitter maybe, if you follow the right people it's the new 4chan and the rest of the internet is downstream from it now
If you wanna run valkyries, what do you ferry around in them?
>>98041966scions or kasakirns
I'm tempted to put dead space wolves on all my character bases since I have the paints and bits now but I feel like it will look weird since I play marines
>>98041736after having read all of this, I'm surprised how this sounds like something that still could have happened today, there's nothing in here that feels particularly dated.I find it kind of funny that the emperors clash with horus was essentially just "they fought, the emperor won" after the entire story leading to it, no particular details about the fight itself
>>98041967Aren't the scions wasteful? Since they already have deep strike?
>>98041975There are no wolves in Dead Space.
>>98041980And none on fenris either. Strange
>>98041966Consider a krieg heavy weapons squad with the 2 damage heavy flamers and a 5 man engineer squad for a mortal wound bomb
>>98041976>after having read all of this, I'm surprised how this sounds like something that still could have happened today, there's nothing in here that feels particularly dated.I mean you can tell from the logo in the top left that this is at least 3rd ed, so yeah.I constantly tell people they'd be surprised how much modern lore actually goes back even to 2nd or sometimes even fuckin Rogue Trader. Everyone wants to meme about the silly things from RT that have been retconned which is like 30% of the content, and ignores that the other 70% of it is still the same 40k that exists today. By 3rd edition it's more like 90% the same.
>>98041842I have noticed that dark eldar and harlequins are laughably capable of outmatching basically anyone in the galaxy when they want to but fucking craftworlders never seem to be able to do so, the most you'll get out of them is appearing before someone important and going "please please please listen to our bullshit in 100 million years something bad will happen!"
>>98041986Should we retcon old hammer stuff then
>>98042006Why?
>>98041586>>98041626It's been pretty bleak. I really hope they start reversing course, or at least stalling. But the actual women fans of the genre cosplay in more risque costumes than the models have now.
>>98041133Why the fuck is sisters in scam? Our codex was REALLY fucking good. It had a lot of different ways to play the army, we ate REALLY good in 10th. Also I would move Leagues of Votann to A tier because they genuinely are SO much more fun to play with their new army rule.The only bad thing about sister is GW's balance team had no fucking idea if they were overpowered or not. They placed about the bottom of the top 3rd at the peak of their powers post codex, and kept getting hard nerfed into top 3 worst armies then having those nerfs reversed. So maybe this guy's tier list is complaining about that? But that's not the codex's fault thats the balance team.Also I would argue that the orks codex was D tier because of how underpowered all the fun stuff is so people ended up playing the most boring detachments that inevitably got nerfed, and people jumped ship for bonus free detachments at the first opportunity. (this is an outsiders opinion, I only play against orks not as them. What I know about orks was what I needed to learn to help my newfag friend learn the game from scratch because he played orks)
>>98042011What they did to Repentia is unforgivable.Daemonettes too I guess I just don't care much about daemons.
>>98042008No idk just asking lol
What am I gaining if I play Krieg rules on a guard regiment versus cadian rules and vice versa?And are there any signs that the guard rules will be better next edition?
>>98042013Neither of the Poorhammer guys play sisters or understand the faction. All their tier lists end up like this, the factions they don't understand well get relegated to low tier.
>>98041155I hated destiny when I gave it the honest try but the cutscenes of this one guy during that game mode everyone hated was pretty much the high water mark of that game.
>>98041997They do seem to get the cooler lore. Like clowning on custodes in the imperal palace or being commissioned to help fix the golden throne.Craftworlders just try to keep out of everyone's way when they can.
Has anybody repurposed an airplane luggage bag with the wheels into a miniature transporter?How did it work?
>>98042020Oh, its poorhammer. Yea, those guys are pretty retarded. I have watched a few of their videos but usually I walk away from their takes thinking "damn, these are EXACTLY the guys GW has pivoted to catering too. the magic the gathering star wars fan type guys who barely read at a high school level but are pretty easy to get along with in the hobby store types".
>>98042034>pretty easy to get along with in the hobby store typesTo be fair I want to be that kind of guy in that aspect at the lgs.It’s why I haven’t shown up for any games yet because one only gets one chance at making a good first impression.
>>98042034I like some of their videos when they have guests on to help them, but yeah it's kinda silly often. You ever seen their minis when they post them? Gloop Glorp Paint Monsters.
>>98042011I paint my repentia with full body suits but specifically because they're supposed to be latex bondage subs.
>>98042028Trying to transport a 2k guard army if possible btw.
>>98042013I would call the sisters codex a scam because they rugpulled and gutted it after 5 minutes, forcing everyone back to using the same index detachment and back to being a just stands in circles and dies army.
>>98041727I use S*** and aside from some minor resin defects once primed I can't really tell the difference. Plastic is a bit harder so there might be minor bending of swords and staffs but if you soak it in boiling water its easy to fix.
>>98042066>>98042028Are you just trying to get it to the LGS for a game or some sort of cross-country travel?I'm assuming you're filling the luggage bag with what? Pick and pull foam trays holding all the minis snugly? Seems fine for long distance travel or long-term storage.Might be a bit clunky for just toting down to the LGS.
>>98041766Tbh, I unironically like 10ths detachment system and datasheets.I preferred 3rds tables for random effects attached to everything. Rolling random tables is ALWAYS fun in my experience.I liked 3rds wargear as well, it genuinely felt like building RPG characters.Blast templates can go, I don't like them and its just too much busywork.
>>98042090Just for games at the lgs.Figured I’d just want one case to store all the minis instead of lumbering around with a load of boxes.I know modifications will be necessary.I just am not sure where to start and whether an ai assistant is trustworthy for instructions like this.So I figured I’d ask here.Also asked in /diy/ but I’m not sure if making a thread is worth it.
GREAT NEWS EVERYONE>top dps in my wow raid tonightBAD NEWS EVERYONE>im out of odorless thinner and cant do more work on my diorama til I get more
>>98042097If just the LGS, especially if it's a tournament, I use this cheap, shitty rolling cart. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF9RK5CFCan fit the whole army in the three layers (all magnetized) and they're easily accessed to pull out and put back. And it folds flat to lay on the back seat of my car, complete with all minis facing up. Do have to be careful getting it in and out, but fuck it, it works. And then rolls around the game store from table to table. The tiny chink caster wheels are way too shit to roll much in the parking lot so I have to mostly carry it to the door.
>>98042099>>top dps in my wow raid tonight grats man. I was the bottom dps in my raid group because I wanted to play a more fun version of my specs rotation and so was slightly suboptimal, but we cleared. :)
>>98041766People would hate force org if implemented today.
>>98042088okay, that has nothing to do with the codex though. they reverted those changes and released more detachments for us so it evened out in the end.
>All I need now is a squad of Rangers, Fire Dragons, and Wave Serpent to reach 1000 pointsHow good are Eldar Rangers?
>>98041638Does a person acting themselves count? Like Rudy Reyes in Generation Kill or Audie Murphy in To Hell and Back?
Does the eldar transports come from big ships or they fly in from orbit?>same question for Tau and Necron transports
>>98042111rangers are bretty goodcheap dudes that can do objective stuff, and they look cool
Working on the base for my collage entry, how's this look as a start before I add talus and texture paste?
>>98042124How it'll look with the Destrier on it.
>>98042111Pretty good for their points cost. 4 strength, -1 ap, 2 damage rifles that hit on 2's with Heavy, for 11 points a model. On the one hand they don't have a character to give them any buffs, they have had two in the past but they're both in Legends.But on the other they're massively buffing Heavy in 11th. So they can scoot around 3 inches and keep their heavy buff, and they also have a D6 react move when anything gets within 9 inches.
>>98042117Eldar typically emerge from the Webway whenever possible, which is often. If there is no Webway portal near the battle, they have larger ships that can presumably deploy wave serpents and such en masse.
>>98042104BoF is still stuck in the nerfed version that should have been reverted and probably still won't be reverted for 11th because GW are shit.
>>98042138BoF is still good, I didn't mind the BoF nerfs. You have to actually transport max to get something out of it which always should have been the case.
>>98042116Not sure really.Self inserts tend to be commonly bad so good ones are just exceptions that prove the rule.
>>98042131So the wave serpents aren't deployed in the upper atmosphere to hover down. They need to be near the ground first?
Where's the anti-vehicle Dakkakannon, James?
Ork dakka is best dakka because it's unlootable by anything that is not proper Orky. It's a better safety method than desintegrating nanomachines like what necrons do or sparkly pixie eldar technology that only overcomplicates things just to fire sharp discs
>>98041800Aren't their claws also covered in a psychic power field effect?
Craftworlds Ain't free. The shrine of Khaine gotta be litterd with the blood of Exarchs. Eldrad MONKEIGH Ulthran aka "E. U." is not my fraseer. he is Imperium bootligger and probbaly ynnari as well :DD. ASPECTS and guardians not councils and PROPHECY ok. praise khaine.
>>98042100Thanks anon.Maybe I won’t have to build a Rube Goldberg machine out of an airplane suitcase.
I need tips with movement with Eldar. I'm learning how to play still and wanna know how to master movement.
>>98042172Youve put more thought into it than anyone at GW.Dark Eldar have solved science, I don't think travelling between atomspheres is something that worry about at all anymore.
>>98042172>So the wave serpents aren't deployed in the upper atmosphere to hover down. Why not? Looks like the falcon can at least do decently high altitude.
>>98042219>scorpions >posts da This is your brain on court of the young king
Just realized.>New Heavy rules let you move 3">Cthonian Earthshakers can only move 4" anyways.>Benefit of Cover is now -1 to hit, indirect fire probably rewritten to not be redundant.>Battleshock now lasts until the enemy rallies.>Tremor shells have a 36" range, and cause a battleshock test at -1.>Can pepper the enemy's home objective with 6+ indirect fire attacks hitting on 4s, and as long as one of them hits there's a good chance to make the unit OC -.I know what unit in my backlog I'm painting this weekend.
>>98042117Necron ships fly in from orbit.Tau Devilfish, Hammerheads, Pirahnas and Crisis Suits are carried inside Manta and Orca dropships, which do a low aerial flyby of the battlefield and have the units drop out the back. The thrusters on a Devilfish aren't strong enough for true flight but can lower it to the ground safely. Mantas are the size of Titans, are capable of transatmospheric flight, and are also the main strikecraft the Tau use in space battles.
>>98041841In the case of Genestealers, if you tried to cleanse the hulk with guardsmen you'd have to kill all the guardsmen afterwards in case the genestealers infected one of them.Grimdark is not grimdumb. A space hulk is by definition slow moving so they have all the time in the world to get marines to come clear it out.
>>98041884They don't have giant unicron ships but they do have battleship sized mining ships that can strip-mine the surface of a planet.The exact references in the Votann codex are to the Votann giving pre-spaceflight species 48 hours to evacuate the planet before they start mining operations.
>>98041743Link?
>>98042459Zelda?
>>98042293at the same time it's unlikely that we will go away from some chuds squatting on home despite it being sticky already simply because action spam and screening so OC- kinda doesn't matter
Why is it that uncle Chang and uncle Ivan are still recasting gw’s hard plastic warhammer 40k models in resin and not in hard plastic?Meanwhile bionicle toys are still being bootlegged in what I assume is abs plastic.Probably not as good as Lego plastic but the precedent is there that 40k plastic can be recast and sold back in hard plastic.
Would a LoC be too skewy for a 1000 point game?
>>98042512That list literally isn't possible in either Chaos Daemons or Chaos Space Marines
>>98042527Is a fucking retard's the only (You) I'm gonna get on a basic gameplay question
>>98041766Customization, both wargear and traits/doctrines.That's why I don't think having a lot of units/options is bloat, what's bloat is unecessary profiles.Scatter dice & templates. This isn't chess, I'm here for the battle and story, I don't care who wins or lose, I care if we're having fun. If I'm stomping you or vice versa I'm not having fun. It's a game, winning isn't worth all of the effort required to play this game. Beside, some of the most fun I've had was in games I lost, that's not a warhammer only thing.I wasn't there for it but I think Psychology was fun..
>>98042506Detailed plastic moulds are still a large investment, and most recasters are at that scale to bite that bullet.The only reason why Z sells some plastic terrain was because the moulds he used were the ones when GW were trialling some production in china, and they soon found out that was a terrible idea with where those moulds ended up.
>>98042531What edition is this? It definitely isn't 10th edition. Daemons can't have any chaos space marine units, and CSM need 1 daemon battleline unit for every daemon non-battleline unit.
>>98042539Man just shut the fuck up
>>98042540Just realised it's shadow legion. No need to be a cunt about it. Also yes, a LoC is too much for a 1k points game.
>>98042541>no need to be a cunt about itYou're shitposting about something being impossible because you're too lazy to look it up first, you'd rather assume I'm making shit up or playing another edition than you might be lacking knowledge on the topic. Being a cunt is 100% appropriate.
>>98042506Rest assured that chinese "Lego" is equal in quality and sometimes (dark brown bricks and prints in general) even better than the originals. But the market for Lego is just so much bigger than for Warhammer, so there is simply more money to be made, and additionally, the moulds are simpler (cheaper) and also building bricks made from resin would not work, so they had no choice.
>>98042538I never got in contact with Z and I think gw got him or he got out of the recast game.:(
>OPI am painting up a Shadowsword because I have fought and lost against one knight army too many.
>>98042586There are plenty others still around
>>98042547>shitpostingYou made a really weird list with a detachment almost no one uses.
>>98040828Is taking a list with 3 Centaur RSVs, 6 Heavy Weapons Squads and 3 Scout Sentinels a genius or retarded build? Using Armoured Infantry and Combined Fire means for 1 CP I can dump 18 mortars with +2 strength and rerolls on any unit (that can be shot by a sentinel) that also get to ignore benefit of cover, thus is enough to dumpster any min sized marine squad in a single round.If I really want to cheese it I can take some Exterminators for AP-1 and another 3 Centaurs with Kasrkin to wipe marinebabies even harder
>>98042633read the rules cheater, your entire waac gimick fails because>rule of 3, say goodbye to half those squads if you want a legal list, because i sure bet their not battleline>their also not actually the centaurs even if their firing from them so dont get buffed if that strategem relies on targetting centaurs>benefit of cover is atomic for indirect fire youre not ignoring it cheater>even if the above wasnt true strategems are once per round so youd only be targetting 1 of youre 3 centaurs
>>98042624>no one uses the detachment so I can get away with making shit up about the rulesAre you >>98042642 as well?
How overpowered will the new vehicles be so they sell well?They don’t really look like a niche filler to me as a transport unit because the chimera already is a thing.
>>98042588Need names and contact if they have webstores.Maybe in 3dpg encryption as James is watching please.
>>98042646The hippogriff is shit
>>98042646Move shoot move is always good although the tank it's on is maybe a little weak on shooting to get a lot out of it. But if they're cheap they could be very fast chaff killers and get away unpunished for objective play.Graves might be better on foot than in the Ram pickup.The new transport is maybe the most iffy one but it's got open top firing deck and there might be some play there.You know on paper these all mechanically sounds like Dark Eldar vehicles I just realized.
>>98040967he looks like he's cosplaying as Kingdom Death monster
>>98042646>>98042659The Centaur is the stand-out because it lets you put 1-2 squads worth of weapons on a single model/unit. Which is good for giving them all a relevant keyword for a strat they'd otherwise not get (like >>98042633 is doing) or with heavy weapons squads lets you get twice the output from stratagems than you otherwise could.
Armageddon is boring where should we go instead
>>98042669Are there demons spewing out the entire length of the rift?
Boy am i really going to miss "L" shaped ruins
>>98042669Naogeddon
>>98042624The proper course of action would have been "how does this work" "it's shadow legion" "oh ok thanks i learned something today" but instead he went "dis nigga be wildin fr fr LMAO" because he's a barely sapient faggot.
>>98042672Then you must be the dude here who was calling everyone fake zoomer grog tourists nomodels nogames whenever they shit on L shaped ruins.
>>98042671Its a tear in realspace and the warp is bleeding in, so yeah there can be
>>98042685That post unlocked a memory I didn’t know I had.>pic related What makes someone a fake grog versus someone who just likes the older 40k stuff on a preference level?
>>98042697Whether they seek validation
>>98042672No, you won't.
>>98042657>>98042659>>98042664I haven’t played 40k since eighth so I need to have this explained in idiot terms.I also havent had any sleep.Are the rules basically busted and if so how busted?Like that time when the Iron Hands rules were busted?Votann first release busted?
>>98041229So you can soup random Imperial guys in your army. It is more of a narrative thing to be honest desu baka, I get why the clear plastic objective and standard footprint ruin audience has trouble understanding this.
>>98042672>L shaped terrainIs gw gonna address this issue of 40k?I want the fights to be more thematic.
>>98042702The hippogriff is fast but it is armed pathetically and is extremely fragile.
>>98042697Everytime you see "fake grog" thrown at someone, it's a projection of the person's own dishonesty.Do fake grogs exist? Yes. But they are pretty rare.A grog, or grognard, is someone who doesn't want new, regardless of how good it can be. If you say >I think this old edition was betterBecause you genuinely think it's better, you cannot be a grog, whether or not you are an oldfag and regardless of you being correct or not.In short: a fake grog would need to be someone pretending to be an oldfag who refuses to even look at newer editions from principle.
If someone praises blast templates you know they're a fake grog who never played with them.
>>98042709Thank you anon.I think the models look better than the dorn tank.Did gw back up on the sculpting subtle changes like the corners looking less curved or is it the paint job?>>98042712That’s pretty good.
>>98042718
>>98042718Are you a grog who played during the template days?How were they?And has the community local and online gotten better or worse?
>>98042718I think your opinion of templates will be shaped by which armies you played with. I played during that era and I thought they were fun (I played guard). My buddy who also played then whenever templates come up in modern convo he will insist they were the worst thing ever (he played mostly melee marines).
>>98042624>really weird listBe humble, sit down.
>>98042718I played with them in 40k and fantasy and enjoyed them. But i was never really comoetitive. It got silly in fantastsy with canons thougjh once everyone figured out 9" from the back corner of the target unit was almost garaunteed hit
>>98042723They were unwieldy to use and created unnecessary arguments that extended the game. Blast templates are a cool idea but they're more fit for a video game that does calculation for you and gives you objective result rather than tabletop game where you have to deal with human error/bias, blast is a more elegant solution imo.>>98042730Yeah, that too, I remember wraithguard in 7th with their giga cancer flamers.
>>98042512I dont think so what else do daemons have for powerful stuff? Whats the alternative? Downgrade to a daemon prince and add another unit?
>>98040828Anons I need to admit....I bought space wolf terminators...does this make me Cringe?
>>98042723I prefer the game without templates because I prefer the game to be more abstract than simulationist.They are a neat idea in that they reward/punish positioning, but in practice it just slows down gameplay because every template is going to be aimed at that one cluster of guys you didn't space properly and suddenly every template is blapping the same 3 guys but you kill 10.
>>98042718I'm fine with templates, they did get tedious the larger the game got since spreading out you squads to avoid them could take some time, but that's also a problem with game army size creep.Vehicle armour facing was something that i don't have fond memories of, mainly due to the arguments that could happen at long ranges or with wave serpants, when HH 2.0 came out and started playing that again the first thing i picked up was one of those line placing laser pointers.
>>98042759>does this make me Cringe?Only if you put tons of decals
>>98042757>Downgrade to a daemon princeBe'lakor doesn't allow it
>>98042770Oh ya cant take those in shadow
>>98042759I bought them too and I'd like to make a modern version of these old fucks, but I'm waiting to see if GW makes a SW upgrade sprue like the DA & BA before gluing them.I'd like to make a small fun SW force>Leader>termies>1 blob of 20, a sort of "crusader squad" SW equivalent>long claws>mk4 dread (if GW releases a new version)The objective is having a nice little force for each chapter I like, it's a long time scale project.
>>98042759Just don't be a schizo pedophile and you'll be fine, it's not that hard.
>>98042669>Ghoul Stars >Scourge StarsLich Stars where
Worked on my Daemon Prince yesterday.Thinking about which chapter colors do I represent on the SM helmets.Do I include Space Furries?
>>98042783the bright red & black go hard with the super pale skin>SWThere already are 2 helmets... You know what you must do
>>98042777The black suns of Commoragh that light a race of necromancers living half lives between death and the decay of their own immortal souls only sustained by feasting on the souls of othersThe Ilmaea are the Lich Stars
>>98042783You absolutely should, fuck the furfags
>>98042759Just don't be an obnoxious with them.
>>98042827why is she saying boyfriend husband?
>>98042827>twitter screenshot
>>98042827I know what each of those words mean but those sentences make no sense to me at all
>>98042808Thank god for periods
>>98042801>>98042808The council has spoken. Thank you.
>>98042783about time someone painted an old daemon prince. are they worth much on ebay / marketplace?
>>98042845>hey, my discord group wants to know if this guy is single because they’re really attracted to him for painting minis>the guy says your discord group is free to hook up with him at the next adepticon
>LMAO>LMFAOI hate that this has become so popular over the last 5 years or so
>>98042861you would go into hysterics if you were on the internet in the mid 2000s-early 2010s then LMAO.
>>98042861warhammer 40k?
Working on the background of a harlequins diorama.What should I add/remove for now? The harlequins will be jumping out of the frame.
>>98042868Based, zoomer culture is actually 200 years old.
>>98042871It's a cool start. The mask emerging from the energy is a cool aesthetic. Feel like you might want to put some more partially emerged faces with a little more upper body at some point or maybe put some shadowy energy distortion below each of them to imply something behind the energy waiting to emerge.
>>98042856Pretty expensive but varies wildly - from 60 all the way up to 240 dollars on ebay.I got mine from a local second hand site for 60-ish.
you know what? fuck 11thi'm just gonna go play 3rd or 4th10th is generally miserable to play for me, and 11th isnt fixing it
>>98042895
I'm afraid bros. I can't skip this opportunity to get legit metal vostroyans but it's gonna be so retardedly expensive. Even if just to get one of each. And obviously you need more.Coincidentally I found this old pic of a previous MTO. Let's compare the prices lmao
>>98042905I like the firstborn but I would not pay those prices for them. Going to have to be a personal decision on your part, whether you feel the value proposition is there for you. Remember that recasts do exist.
>>98042882Yeah, I have some leg less harlequins coming out halfway. It'll roughly look like this.As for more masks, unfortunately I ran out of them. The piece will be busy enough that I dont know if extra masks will be noticeable.Thats your webway gate, btw? Looks great.
>>98042895Join us
>>98042900i'm sorry but that's just how I feel40k is no longer a beer and pretzels game because if you're not taking the game seriously, and your opponent is (which is likely because the focus on competitive has caused a power escalation in "casual" play) by taking combos etc like he normally would, you're gonna get shat onyou either have to compromise the list you want to take to make it good, or you're most likely going to losethe only "fun" is gained from winning and that's just a short lived bit of dopamine
>>98041626>No capes!
>>98042929I already play 30k, but I own a bunch of 3rd-4th ed necrons (lots of metal) so that's what i'll be playing
So... I thought of an army archetype.60 Heavy Intercessors.50 Tactical Marines.>add any random warlord character for 100ptsYou have 180 wounds from Heavy Ints, and 100 wounds from tac marines. You have near damn a 300 wound army after a leader.
>>98042929>blood angels tactical squadFUCK YOU YOU LUCKY BASTARD, FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU>>98042944nta but that's not 30k, see the heavy weapon and back banner?
>>98042951My son, it is time to make your own army, what will you choose?>Fluffy flavorful armyor>280 wounds
>>98042861>5 yearsYesExcept the last 20 years, and probably before i could even use internet
>>98042951Make them Imperial Fists and you get a Based from me
>>98042872we zoomers invented the intenret after all.
>>98042951wow no one ever thought of that before, amazing
>>98042952no I know it's 40k, i'm just saying that I already do play a similar (fun) game system
>>98042642How about you read the rules? It's technically not the Heavy Weapons team firing, Firing Deck gives the Centaur the HWT's weapons for that shooting phase.Which lets you use vehicle stratagems on the mortars, but on the flipside removes any unit special rules like Ork Lootas rerolling hits against units on objectives.
>>98042961I don't know if you guys are pretending or simply too stupid and I'm wasting time replying but in case an innocent anon might think you're right and sensible, here is a food allegory so you understand it better: the word "network" was first used about 80 years before the internet became popular, and "LMAO" used as all-caps, ubiquitous sociopathic punctuation is a more recent thing than the use of LMAO itself (that used to be much more common as lowercase lmao, by the way).
>>98042952>FUCK YOU YOU LUCKY BASTARD, FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUNot that guy but I believe that's a standard tac squad with death company bits, I recognize those pauldrons and backpacks.Old DC kit had a shitload of extra bits.
>>98042952It's not mine, just my friend's.
>>98042882Tried to copy your vibe with my 12 dollar 3d printed webway gate but I don't know how to get the plastic plexiglass or wahtever effect you've got so I just painted some cling wrap
>>98042905just get it 3d printed of course
>>98042952newfag here, what’s so special about the blood angels tactical squad?
>>98042977VGH....SOVL....
>>98042925that's a nice webwayDamn harlequins and dark eldar have nice collections.Now that I think of it I never see eldar players with nice shit.
>>98042978It's just a bunch of shards hot glued onto another pane of plexiglass and then painted
>>98042951Vanguard Spearhead.May as well give them -1 to hit and benefit of cover beyond 12".
>>98042980They're just really good models with bespoke armour and details. Very ornamental. Compare them to the current Blood Angels kits and weep.
>>98042969Understandable, have a nice day>>98042975Check again, because I'm quite confident those are BA tac squad bits; the heavy bolter is box fed, for instance.>>98042977Please relay the message to them then, include the double middle fingers and tears running down the face>>98042980You got 10 dudes worth of chapter specific bits and then some.Add that to the oldschool marines being easily customizable it's effectively a blood angel upgrade sprue on steroid.They also came with a heavy flamer.It's the ultimate proof that GW can do these kinds of kits but refuse to do so.
>>98042978the image wasn't supposed to be upside down but I guess the combo of my light shining through the gate and it being upside down adds to the disconcerting charm of it
>>98042871>DioramaMan I have to plan a big one for the next year and Wirh various scenes (it's a uni diploma stuff) and I've always felt a bit intimidated by it. Any tips abaut making dioramas? (Mostly Painting?)
>>98042895the thing about nucrons is a lot of their stuffi s retarded looking>>98042980I assume it's because it's not sold anymore and it was a blood angels specific sprue with models.The current BA primaris line.... removed most of the unique BA stuff. So ba players have been insulted and injured and then space wolves got a much better update, black templars got away with not having their shit fucked with and ultramarines- the most generic chapter- got a bunch of new stuff like victrix and victrix ancient anyway.
>>98042980The BA plastic kits were the absolute peak of GW's modular multipart plastic marine era, but the tac squad in particular is notorious because it just up and disappeared one day for no reason (not squatting) and it wasn't actually sold for as long as the death company/sang guard kits.
>>98042977>windows on all wallsBasado
>>98042999I think perspective is important after making several dioramas that kind of sucked. the back of the diorama being higher than the front. Instead of just a piece of flat foam with guys on top of it.
>>98042701>Here's the official dimensions of the area terrain!>And here's the actual area terrain where we've added random cuts and irregular lumps to try and make it harder for 3rd parties to duplicate.>No we're not putting these simple sheets of cardstock in our 300 dollar starter boxes, you have to pay extra.
>>98042701>>980430183rd party terrain is making easy to build detailed colored quality buildings at affordable prices, while GW is gonna sell printed sheets of carbboard at a premium.>an audience that eats up anything we do
>>98042709Kinda sad about you calling it fragile when it's basically the same as a Kapricus Defender with an extra point of Toughness and Armor.Though at least the Defender gets Scouts and a railgun.
>>98042980it was a really cool kitI dont even play marines but I picked up the old bangles SC ages ago that had them and put together a little force for fun
>>98042718I play a lot with templates though admittedly in Necromunda so it doesn't have the stupid "Defender can shift template as long as it doesn't hit fewer models" rule.Why they didn't keep the version of Look Out Sir! from 2nd edition I don't know.
>>98042993>Please relay the message to them then, include the double middle fingers and tears running down the faceI will!
>>980430273rd party terrain is going to be vinyl cutouts the exact dimensions of the GW sheets, with "WARGAMINGSTORE.NET join our patreon" in neon green over black instead of a map print.With any luck someone will do the dimensions of the area terrain as STLs, and I'll just 3d print them as two or three layers of filament and then use that as bases for texture/terrain bits.
Will 11th finally make drop pods good? They just got a new model they probably want to sell.
>>98043018It wouldn't be a new edition without a blatant lie from GW.
>>98043018>to try and make it harder for 3rd parties to duplicateThere were exact copies of them the day after they showed the layouts why do you think that's making it any more difficult for anyone?
apparently one of the starter sets will have pre-painted terrain
>>98043095No way this is real
>>98043095>hazard stripes on a pipeso are these hand painted in a sweatshop or is it just a bunch of masking and sprays by a machine
>>98043085The 1" reduction will make them slightly better. My guess is that Votann will get Termites with a shitty new name that fulfill the same function and the drop pod will be updated to make sure its better than the Termite and the Tyrannocyte. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up squatting the Tyrannocyte.
>>98043095Is this a new sprue or is someone trying to pass off an Archon Studios sprue as GW? I know they do precolored terrain but their stuff is more modular. Doesn't look like Sector Imperialis terrain.
>>98043103I don't think the 1" reduction is enough when they are still effectively deepstriking at 11". The issue isn't the range of the unit disembarking it's finding somehwere big enough to fit the entire thing + the unit. If only the unit counted for the distance restriction it would be cool.
>>98043103not sure that dwolfs will need one yet, they need more non-transports and eyecandy first like a walker/train/zerker variant
>>98043123They need the starcraft siege tank and to stop being a horde army so I can afford them.
What basing theme should I go with for my Eldar army?
>>98042895It's what people have said for years.
>>98043141Dead space marines
>>98043145Perhaps GW should consider using 4th as a base for new rules instead of doubling down in the opposite direction for the third time.
You should all buy these shirts if you play 40khttps://www.legionofhope.com/https://www.legionofhope.com/
>>98042974>here is a food allegory so you understand it better:Played your hand too much. 6/10.
>>98043155That would require for GW to admit that 10th edition is bad and doesn't work.And we all know GW and other modern corporations are incapable of admitting to be wrong.
>>98043095GRIM
>>98043100considering the terrain was already made in china, probably
>>98043095Please tell me is a joke...
>>98043154I misread this at first
>>98041229This reeks of WAAC. Why would you want to extract what little old school flavour 40K has left?
>>98043155They will continue doing that until the oldfags are completely gone. Sorry anon.
>>98043223>is shit>old school flavor?????
>>98042895I was thinking this recently looking at necron models, but only 4th edition style models really 'look good'. The 'new' stuff like the war of the worlds drones look like atotally different army.
>>98041556Im still amused that this series has such great art, lore, and villains, and its still just an outlet for the authors very open lactation fetish.
>>98043127Would rather have a simpler army rule and 3+ WS/BS base then the Imp Guard in carapace armor they turned them into in 10th.I don't wanna track yield points just let me shoot the enemy.
Okay, so everyone thinks that their BS4+ army should really just be BS3+ without having to jump through hoops to get it. But what armies actually should be BS4+ then?
>>98043272there is a hidden benefit to being a recent army due to not having "core" gimmick yet so we might see something new or just command phase declared stancenow that i think about it a lot of the core rules gimmicks came about when you weren't promised a new codex so you were just stuck with what you had. Like no way in hell necrons would cling to free and multiple times proccing reanimation protocols if they weren't stuck for like 10 years on 1 codex
>>98043283Orks, nids, genestealers, imperial guard, that sort of thing.
>>98043283Guard, Tyranid, Tau, GSC. Necron Warriors should be 4+ but their elites should be 3+. AdMech it can go either way, whether their advanced tech should give them 3+ or just make them hit harder when they do hit. Personally I'd make Skitarii 3+ and Servitors/Automata 4+, and add a ton more servitors and automata to their unit list.Sisters should be 3+ since they're basically an entire army of vet guard, and have been 3+ since 2nd edition.Eldar and Votann should be 3+ because they're equivalent to elves and dwarves, which are 3+ in WHFB. Votann in 9th were clearly meant to slot into the army gap left by the removal of 1 wound firstborn, and then GW made their army rule overpowered.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kjdzbnvr/run-a-campaign-in-a-weekend-with-the-dominatus-deck/>What if we made Crusade but dogshit with even less flavor than before?
>>98043414Ad mech was originally 3+ but now you need to jump through stupid hoops to get them there which means even their elite troops are subject to being worse because the wishy-washy army rule might just give them their 3+ if they stand still.
>>98043449I didn't think that GW could enshittify campaigns but here we arre. You too can play netlist escalation leagues just like crusades but now you have a deck of cards to draw from.
>>98043449I dont hate the idea of a system for a weekend campaign, but suspect it'll be a pain to wrangle my group to all be available for the games unless its dragged out over weeks, in which case might as a well do crusade
>>98043469It really feels like every army that had a moment in the sun in 9th just got brutalized in 10th.
>>98043480Ad mech was having a rough time even in 9th, they got to bully older codices and then they got nerfed and powercrept so badly that they even just reversed all errata on the codex towards the end of 9th and it was still the worst army in the game.
>>98042871Added the troupes on it. Still have a good number of minis to add (jetbikes, solitaires, etc)I know to trust the process, but I'm mot feeling it.>>98042999I've only done one diorama before, and its a duel so not really a diorama.I guess start with the minis, do 90% of it, then place them on the diorama and do the final 10% (taking into account light sources, etc etc). And understand what the focal point of your diorama is, as to not draw too much attention on another aspect of the diorama.
You might not be able to tell because of the art style, but it was the artist's intent that Konrad Curze should appear in a state of nakedness but for a pair of flipflops sandals.
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>>98043480I only started in 10th but Marines seem incredibly versatile and powerful compared to many others, was there ever a time where they were considered relatively under powered?
>>98043539>ywn bury your face into those polymorphin cheeksWhy even live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nnl0ycLvgUhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jmtd7k9g/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-tau-empire/
Dangerous terrain is back(?)
>>98043638+6" on smaller tables, very nice.
>The best part is, you won’t even have to track anything on a sheet or app – it’s all in the cards you pick up after each game. James I need you to understand the only reason to play a campaign is to keep track of shit. I want orders of battle. I want to buy myself upgrades or new units. I want my units to die or get battle scara and need to be healed or replaced. I want to manage shit. That's what campaigns are about. Who the fuck asked for crusade to be shrimplified?
>>98043663Crusade games were just escalation leagues with netlists anyway, may as well add some cards.
>>98043638>1 point>+9 to detection>all your stealth suits can shoot without breaking hidden>old cover on 1 CPthis is bound to get out of hand
>>98042759As long as you don't go down the dark path you'll be fine
>>98043671I'm sorry you run campaigns with retards that don't want to run a campaign but that doesn't justify removing the system entirely.
>>98043663It sounds like you won the lottery and have a reasonable group so why not keep using your favourite old crusade books?Being real most crusade armies boil down to get +1 BS on your lascannons and were never fun or fluffy, just spam the op combos you can make
>>98043698Nah
>>98043698kill yourself, ban evading shitheel
>>98043702Probably will. We just finished the previous Armageddon crusade and were gonna strat the 500 Worlds map campaign next, but the more friction you create to run stuff the more people will drop out. This will just make things worse in the long run.
>>980436032nd edition base marines were highly expensive for 1 wound models. They were the only army that could shoot twice standing still, but they were 30 points apiece compared to an ork at around 12 and orks had BS3 (4+ nowadays). 8th and 9th they had issues where they were the first codex released and strong out of the gate and then got powercrept until getting a bonus codex late in the edition.
I have 25 out of 120 termagants finished and another 15 about halfway done. I'm looking forward to playing my first game once I get everything painted. Here's what I'm thinking for my first 500 point list - 20x Termagants w/ Fleshborer [120]-lead by Winged Tyranid Prime w/ Naturalized Camouflage [95]10x Termagants w/ Fleshborer [60]10x Termagants w/ Fleshborer [60]5x Hyperadapted Raveners [165]How reasonable/balanced is this for 500 points? Planning to use the Unending Swarm detachment since I have a lot of termagants. I got the raveners because I also want to try out Killteam.
>>98043638They really, really, really want to sell those Stealth Battlesuit killteams, don't they?Also worried that it doesn't seem FtGG is getting rewritten to give guided unit bonus detection.
Any body hev pdf of reign of iron book? And do you got some building footprint pdf for 11 ed?
>>98043698cryoh wait you can't, or you'll get banned againhere's my model btw
>>98043744isn't FtGG a debuff/status on enemy that gives you bonuses to other to shoot that guy for like 2 years now? unless I missed something hidden doesn't impact being chosen for abilities
>>98043760They say in the article the spotter can't pick the target unit if it's hidden. But nothing in there about spotted units getting +x" detection range for the guided unit which I would think is the natural evolution of the rule.
>>98043768it looks better than anything you've ever posted here
>>98043757Your model is beautiful btw
>>98043638>Stealthsuits/Pathfinders don't break hidden in one detachmentMy Tau playing friend loves spamming those two units so I'm looking forward to spamming counterpredation against him
>>98043696Yeah it sucks but if they wanted campaigns to actually be back they would use a system that's conductive to it. I bet they'd make a killing if they brought back Planetary Empires.Also you're right competitive WAAC players blow chunks for campaign play.
Is Combat Patrol popular as an actual game. Just wondering if I should bother kitting out the units in the box the way it requires. Rather than what looks cool
>>98043793I just stated a fact, all your models are extremely low effort garbage that any sane adult man would be ashamed of showing other people
>>98043815Hell no. No one plays it.
>>98043815Nah people would mostly rather play a 1k game instead of that garbo, from what I understand it’s strictly reserved for retards and invalids who can’t play a more complex game.
>>98043638>pathfinders/stealth suits can stay hidden after shooting>pathfinders/stealth suits have 18"/20" range>hidden is 15">neither one deals enough damage to kill anything in one activationwhat's the fucking point?>EPC>make it only affect crisis commandersbut why? why make the worst detachment total dogshit? what's the point?>most of those [detachments] found in Codex: T’au Empire only cost 2so basically confirming that Montka is going to cost 3 DP.>no changes to the army rule even hinted atso the clunky as fuck army rule is going to be even more convoluted because of how it will or won't interact with Hidden. great
>>98043815I tried one game with friends and DG still had the old rules with old toughness and shit, like what's the point, you're better off playing 500pts
>>98043820No one used power levels either and now we're all forced to use it. 12th will just be pre-made combat patrol lists of 2000 points with zero options and a deck of cards for every ability.
>>98043638This detection range and hidden shit will cause a lot of confusion in regards to who can shoot what.Also, more previews of>do thing, get +detection rangeExciting detachment rules.
>>98043835Nta but why do you get so butthurt when someone jokes about space furries?
>>98043856Because he's an actual autist incapable of seperating reality from fiction, just ignore his posts
>>98043852it feels like a lot of detachment rules affect detection range for some reason.which is going to make them feel like dogshit when Hidden gets rebalanced 3 months after release because GW didn't predict some broken as fuck interaction.
>iron hands get a detachment>specfically need the named character to use the detachment
>>98043833So far they haven't given explicit example of what costs 3.In sister preview they said all their old detachments cost 2 DP.I assume a lot of old detachments also got toned down to fit the 2 DP cost.
>>98043864Objectives are tied to detachments now.All armies will have a scout detachment to do those.All scout detachments will have some gimmick detection rule that probably won't matter much.
>>98043868You would think so, but they didn't say all. For some reason they said most. Unless it's the Kroot detachment?
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>>98043095>pre painted minisPlease let it be real. Please bring us faster to the end of this charade.
>>98043095I would buy pre painted terrain.
>>98043095better than contrast slop desu
Got any cool plans for the big dudes collage?
>>98043879
>>98043903Connect mouth to shotgun
>>98043910Not particularly cool or anything, just painting a Forgefiend. Did some airbrush work yesterday, will probably work on either the head or guns later today.
>>98043833EPC affects models in the unit the commander is attached to. So in effect its a tax to give Plasma Rifles and Fusion Blasters the range they should've had anyways.
>>98043948what are you using as a background for your photos? I thought this was a 3d render for a second.
I'm going to need tokens or something to keep track of all this hidden and modified detection ranges shit.
>>98043910was going to do the big mek in line for a roller coaster, but it turned out he’s way too fuck off huge and overdesigned to make it work, so I’ll just do it with some boyz instead, and paint the big mek as a backup depending on how bad my freehanding is for the roller coaster idea.are you going to end up doing something related to CIA/Bane?
is there any hard cover book with pics about the salamanders? like a space marine codex?
>>98043961It's just a piece of white fabric. I made this guide for taking pictures, it kinda relies on having good lighting but hey, maybe it'll help.
>>98043963I wonder how many arguments all of this new stuff will end up causing.
>>98043638Hidden and Detection Range are gearing up to be a total clusterfuck
>>98043692if he plays space wolves why is his army mostly knights with wolf heads.
>>98043986What happened to it just being a 15 minute warning, fuckboy?
>>98043986if what you say is true, then that’s shameful on the jannies part. you should have received an automatic permaban with no appeal.
>>98043989People forget it's also blood angels
>>98043986Erm, if you're banned how are you posting? You wouldn't be ban evading, would you?
WTF is up with that green on the dreadnought? Is it photoshopped?
>>98043989>>98044000he also has necrons and ultramarines. for a dude who loves to boast about his space wolves, he isn’t very loyal the wolfpack.
>>98044006Could be lighting or the transfer is just that bright
>>98043986
>>980440064th company of Ultramarines has green shoulder rims
>>98044011Could be, looking online other people have the same green transfer>>98044017Learn to read nigga
Who among the loyalist marines are the most opposed to space wolves?
>>98044031marines malevolent >>98043783
>>98044031Don't they have ancient beef with the Dark Angels?
>>98044030>Learn to read nigga... so the dreadnaught is part of the 4th company which is why its green.. I thought you can put one and one together my bad
>>98044031Dark angels have a feud with them
>>98043783what happened to the awoo that was crawling away?
>>98044031Definitely Red Scorpions, or Black Templars. Possible the Ultramarines.>NON CODEX COMPLIANT>GREAT COMPANIES ARE THE SIZE OF UNDER-STRENGTH CHAPTERS>13 INSTEAD OF 10 MEANS THEY'D HAVE TOO MANY MARIESN ANYWAY>HAVE STRANGE PRIESTS THAT USE SORCERY>OPENLY HAVE FUCKED UP MUTANTS FIGHTING ALONGSIDE THEM>REFUSE THE INQUISITION AND THEREFORE THE ECCLESIARCHY>RETARDED LORE THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM ESTABLISHING SUCCESSORS>LOTS OF MUTANT WOLF MEN AMONG CHAOS WITH CHAPTER ENBLEMS FROM THE WOLF BROTHERS CURSED CHAPTER>CLEARLY ONE WRONG MOVE FROM STARTING THE YIFF HERESY AND THE FENRISIAN DOMAINS SECEDING FROM THE IMPERIUM
>>98044031None really, they are feared and respected throughout the Imperium as the enforcers.
>>98044051lay off the caps nigga
>>98044031probably the minotaurs since they are the bitches of the inquisition and the inquisition hates the space wolves
>>98044031Anyone who has a good relationship with the inquisition, see grey knights, black templars etc
>>98044031probably ultramarines and much of their successors because of how unprofessional they are. every chapter has its quirks or problems, but the entire space wolf chapter is barely above barbarians when it comes to civility, and we all know how romans felt about barbarians…
>>98043414>Servitors/Automata 4+I recall that during 3rd/4th you could have Servitors hitting on 2+, 3+ and sometimes getting a re-roll, in a edition were re-roll was rare. GSC at least the hybrids in general have Guardsmen level of aims so 4+ to hit is fine, but usually they have better leadership an initiative to represent the Nid and Brood mind aspects. Regular humans that drank the kool aid usually had worst Initiative than an ork boy or guardsmen and hit on 5 or 6
>>98044088You’re a Lorelet clearly but the Wolves don’t follow the normal customs and mannerisms of other Marines chapters because of their very specific roll as enforcers. They are widely considered to be the Marine chapter that shows the least fear on the battlefield as well with most wishing for death to prove their honor.
>>98043171https://youtu.be/FvPv7B8wDxM
>>98044107Stop ban evading
>>98043910My entry is more or less done. Waiting for the collage anon. I recently ordered greensfuff and those space wolf termies >>98042759 but I try to limit myself. Pile of shame and all. Plus in 40k i mostly kitbash anyway.
>>98044066Suck my dick nigga
>>98044031Lorewise it's Dark Angels but it should be >>98044038>>98043783
>>98044088Plenty of chapters come from feral and death worlds that are violent, uncivilized places.
>>98044117Stop replying to me, ty.
>>98044127Leeman Russ takes fat red dog dick lol
>>98044130Are you a child?
>>98044107>rollyou mean they take the principle roll of the enforcer? either way, bravery on the battlefield doesn’t translate to respect. the romans were fighting gauls who were charging at them bare naked, and all that told the romans was that many gauls were less than human.
>like Eldar, Orks, and Thousand Sons>want to match the Eldar bases to the 2e codex cover (desert with tan rocks)>Orks looks best on desert bases, especially the vehicles>Thousand Sons obviously go on desert bases, because they are egyptiansuffering
>>98044137No, but you haven't mentally graduated from being one considering how you can't even understand why you get banned every day
I think I'm going to buy Tabletop sim so I can learn the game. That way I can plan my army better.Any objections?
>>98044153wait for a sale
So what's all this detection thing? >>98043638
>>98044138You’re not getting it, they don’t greet and treat with other chapters because they know at any moment they may be called upon to annihilate said chapter or rogue part of said chapter, I think back to the one story about the SW large battleship warping in way to close to other chapters ships and a captain from I think the blood Angels bitching to a SW about it and he just completely ignores him. The Wolves know where they stand and it’s above the rest.
>>98044153Depends on if you have friends willing to be patient with you. Most of 40k is just not forgetting to use all the bullshit they crammed into detachments, stratagems, and special abilities
>>98044051>NON CODEX COMPLIANTPlenty of chapters are. Inc. BT.>GREAT COMPANIES ARE THE SIZE OF UNDER-STRENGTH CHAPTERS100 marines is also the size of an under-strength chapter.>13 INSTEAD OF 10 MEANS THEY'D HAVE TOO MANY MARIESN ANYWAYCrimson Fists have a 1st company that's 128 members strong, so on paper they also got too many marines.>OPENLY HAVE FUCKED UP MUTANTS FIGHTING ALONGSIDE THEMDepending on who you ask, all marines are fucked up mutants. Besides, SW are not the only chapter to field their failures.>REFUSE THE INQUISITION AND THEREFORE THE ECCLESIARCHYInquisition and Ecclesiarchy got nothing to do with one another. Emperor founded the Inquisition during the late Heresy and Ecclesiarchy rose around M32. Inquisition even has a branch to watch over them. SM predate even the Inquisition nor do they belong in the Imperial Cult. Only a few chapters (or just BT, depending on the source) are members.>RETARDED LORE THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM ESTABLISHING SUCCESSORSOutside of the ones that exist.>LOTS OF MUTANT WOLF MEN AMONG CHAOS WITH CHAPTER ENBLEMS FROM THE WOLF BROTHERS CURSED CHAPTERHalf of DA legion is running around Chaos with their emblems.
>>98044153I mean current 40k is not a good game. The only saving grace is the physical models.Even older editions that I love are not really good games. Fun? Sure, but not exactly good.So playing 40k in a simulator is kind of missing the point of a wargame, specially one with such ass mechanics.
slow ass threads lately huh>>98044108magnificent>>98044153be warned moving models in TTS is an absolute pain the fucking assespecially with terrain/enemy models on the board
>>98044186>I mean current 40k is not a good gameIn your opinion
i'm hyped for skulls event
>>98044172>space wolf is a retard, and endangers the life of his crew and another chapters crew, and acts like a mute retard when confrontedI can see why decalfag likes them so much now. I wonder if those space wolves would like it if say a titan stepped on one of them, turning the space wolf into a bunch of gory bits, and the princeps ignored them when confronted.
>>98043910Not really, just beavering away at my crabnaught. Finished all the basecoating and about a quarter of the shading last night. I should have it all done by end of next week.
>>98042125Fuckin nice bro, I love reposed knights like this. Did you have to wire up the leg making contact with the base?
>>98043866Sallies got the same deal. It’s pretty gay but I guess it’s better than nothing at all.
>>98044173>>98044186I'm mainly using it not as a replacement but just to learn the game and plan out my army ahead of time. I know 40k isn't a...great game by any measure, it's meant to be about the minis and community. But I'd be disappointed if I completed a full 1000pts list and it was dogshit. Not that I'm going to run into that since I'm going to run Imperial guard with lots of tanks.
>>98042124uhhh is that guy okay?
How would a militia of fervent civilians be represented on the tabletop?Like not real imperial guard but a mob whipped up into a frenzy by the ecclesiarchy
>>98044051>>REFUSE THE INQUISITION AND THEREFORE THE ECCLESIARCHYI dont see the issue with that, space marines dont worship the emperor as a god anyway. Well... the oldest chapters don't.
>>98044175>old unit profile designRETVRN
>>98044051>>HAVE STRANGE PRIESTS THAT USE SORCERYAll marines have these. They are just called psykers.
>>98044215They don't hurt anyone unnecessarily and they pull stunts like this to remind other chapters what's what.
>>98044215In the 3E Space Wolf codex a Space Wolf terminator was stepped on by a titan and survived unharmed.
>>98044320he just got pushed into the ground don't bother him
>>98044320Damn that's pretty cool.
>>98044331Before furries were a thing Space Wolves were one of the coolest chapters. Then everything went to shit.
>>98044299>They are just called psykers.Librarians. And they're ok, because libraries are a place for education and learning, while priests are for churches and churches are backwards and pedophillic.
>>98044343I still think they're pretty fucking cool man and I like the Wolves aspect they have about them.
>>98044320
>>98044359>furfag made shit up to try and make his gayass chapter look cooler than it actually isMany such cases.
>>98044352The wolf riding models are retarded though. Wolf spines are not suited to carry weight like a horse's spine can. A fully armored space marine would break the wolf's spine. Having wolf companions is cool, but having wolf mounts is fucking retarded. When those got introduced in 4E Space Wolves jumped the shark.
>>98044162Idk. You get close to a unit and then you get to shoot at it
Fuck, I should have bought lemon russ instead of dorn, I could have made a diorama of him getting killed by a grot
>>98044359>>98044369I hadn't read the book in twenty years, so he wasn't unscathed but he did survive. I'm half right.
>>98044310Leeman Russ takes big red dog dick
>>98042124Could use a dead space wolf
>>98044153>plan your armyHere's my 2 IG platoons (3.5ed homebrew)>CADIANS>2x 13 men infantry squad with autocannon, riding in half-tracks>command squad>Leman russ>Commissar>It is the BANEBLADE>KRIEG>Command Squad>Commissar>Quartermaster>2x blobs of 20 dudes with heavy stubbers>Macharius>5x Death Riders>5x Engineers>Thudd gun with centaur carrierHere's how I planned them:>I took the stuff to make them coolerDoes it work? SOMETIMESIs it fun?EVERYTIME
>>98044390leman russ would never lower himself to taking dog dick, he only inserts the mightiest of dire wolf penises inside himself.
>>98044369I mean just because he was bleeding doesn't mean he was harmed in a brutal sense of the word but that he had cuts and scrapes that heal quickly and he was still ready for battle. >>98044381The Wolves are augmented and gigantic though, Big Wolves that carry Humans in Armor are one of the most believable things in the setting. >>98044390kys
>>98043755yeah all that stuff got uploaded if you want to take a look at the archives
>>98044359>The wolfguard terminator joined egil in the ruins of the bunker and shouted...So he was fine afterward
>>98044397I just want 4 Leman Russ tanks, a blob of Krieg infantry riding in chimeras and either a Dorn or Russ Tank commander.
>>98044153>plan my army better.Just get minis that you think looks cool.If they look cool they may be frustrating but they will be satisying.
>>98044401did you hear how leman russ died? gang banged by dire wolves. he drowned… he drowned in their cum.
>>98044162Units in terrain can't be shot at outside detection range (15" default).
>>98044381I mean is it really that too far fetched?
Which is more fun, Cult of the Arkifane or Soulforged Warpack?
>>98044401>The Wolves are augmented and gigantic though, Big Wolves that carry Humans in Armor are one of the most believable things in the setting.It still looks goofy as fuck. Space marine bikes are so cool why ride wolves?
>>98044381You are forgetting that they aren't actually wolves
>>98044427soulforged when all your forgefiends start blowing themselves up
>>98044431Do you own any cats by chance?
>>98044426stop ban evading pedo
>>98044450We're having a nice peaceful discussion, do you have to but in and make it about you every time?
>>98044431Better turn radius
>>98044457banned means banned, pedo
>Arrival and Initial Friction (The Scene You Remembered)The Blood Angels fleet is mustering for the Signus Campaign when a small Imperial Army cruiser suddenly translates from the warp dangerously close to one of their vessels (the Hermia). Without prior vox hails or warnings, a Thunderhawk launches and docks aggressively.Azkaellon (Commander of the Sanguinary Guard, effectively a high-ranking Blood Angel officer) confronts them on the landing deck. He calls out the arrival as reckless, notes it nearly got them fired upon, and complains about violating fleet protocols. He also challenges the presence of the Rune Priest as a violation of the Edict of Nikaea (banning psykers).Redknife is arrogant and dismissive, treating the situation like a dominance display. When Stiel hisses/snars in response to the criticism, Redknife silences him with a sharp look. The Wolves downplay the issues, present their sealed orders from Malcador (which are vague but ironclad), and embed themselves with the Blood Angels as "observers" or watch-keepers. The Blood Angels find them insolent "barbarians," but have no choice but to accept them.I found the little interaction finally, shows that the Wolves don't really listen to any other Chapters.
Should I make a tiger themed space marine chapter?
>>98044467nobody gives a single fuck about your homosexual furfags, fuck off already and stop ban evading you double nigger
>>98044472I need you to take a deep breath and calm the fuck down.
>>98044457Go back to your gay dogfucking subreddits
>>98044457>didn’t deny itcome back in three days, arianist.
>>98044470What's wrong with Tiger Claws?
>>98044482Dayyum now that's some kino bambino
Are Thousand Sons at least nice to other (non imperium) psykers? Or are they still dickheads?
>>98044476I need you to stop polluting this general with your presence you fucking autistic cockroach. Not a single person in this general nor the mods want you here, are you really too mentally ill to understand that?
>>98044487Talk Warhammer or lock it up, its really that simple man.
>>98044482They're basically all dead is the problemmight do snow leopards instead
>>98044492Ironic considering Snow leopards are all almost dead.
>>98044491Like how you did in all these deleted posts?
>>98044495gdi dude will you shut up?
Anybody got full res of background artwork used there? One with chaos terminators, I couldn't find it.
>>98044492holy shit these things are fasthttps://youtu.be/JTlveCrymV8?t=121
>>98044486Who would that even be?
>>98044509bro the way they tumble with their prey off cliffs and take no damage is unreal.
>>98044510Chaos aligned psykers? Basically all Tzeench worshippers
>>98044486They're chaos marines, what do you think?
Chaos Bikers refresh never
With Mechanicus 2 having a release date, anyone remember how stable or functional of a release 1 had?
Can you just crash out already so janny can ban you, furnigger? Doesn't this ritual get exhausting? They're not going to stop mocking you.
>>98044528It was very stable, played really well from the get-go.
>>98044528its fucking shit dont botherbut also >>>/v/
>>98044528horribly optimized unfortunately
>>98044427The one you like the most
>>98044529Do you not get enough attention in life or something?
>>98044588Answer the question.
>>98044588I refuse to believe you do not see the irony of this post lmao
>>98044343Space Wolves weren't even in the top 50% coolest chapters.
10.5 Rules changes so far for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_aGnZeE_as
>>98044423
>>98043910Not quite finished, but might as well post this guy for the collage
>>98044653No one is going to use this MOBA ass layoutCasual timmies in an LGS aren't going to bother with such a speciffic setup, they're just going to plaster the board with terrain and say "good enough"
>>98044642Just remember they had the highest sold box last year twerp.
>>98044299>>98044351The Templars explicitly do not use sorcery.>>98044175>Depending on who you ask, all marines are fucked up mutants. Besides, SW are not the only chapter to field their failures.Are you retardedYou're the decalfag aren't you.
>>98044407>krieg in chimeraI'm glad I got a nice STL of the gorgon, haven't tried it yet
The only reason people fall to chaos in 40k is because they don't know enough about it. If you knew you'd get soulraped for eternity you simply opt to kill yourself instead
>>98044675>Popularity = QualityOnly low IQ niggercattle justifies their tastes by quoting sales.
>>98044670>Casual timmies in an LGS aren't going to bother with such a speciffic setup, they're just going to plaster the board with terrain and say "good enough"Most people just do what they want for casuals its fine
>>98044528First game to have league of votann, let's gooo>>98044543I think wolf scouts are cool but I prefer SW scouts to be rowdy freshly juiced up techno barbarians and I blame Goodwin for that
>get armourgeddonbox>sell captain because I don't need him>paint land speeder white for white scars>paint veteran jump packs black for raven guard>possibly sell the pushfit shit intercessors at a markup to some genius who loves angry face helments>either sell or paint the guys with the stupid looking heavy guns iron hands>chaplain for blood angels>ancient?>librabrian?
>>98044712why not just buy the things you actually want on ebay?
>>98044689>The Templars explicitly do not use sorcery.Well good thing space marine librarians don't use sorcery but good ol psychic disclipine :^)
>>98044689How does it feel to be a lorelet?>The Templars explicitly do not use sorcery.So how do their ships travel the Warp and how do they communicate over great distances? Even if they have no librarians, they still have to rely on Navigators and Astropaths.
>>98044694I'm just using my krieg as Steel Legion minis.
>>98044670You retards keep pushing this meme but there's nothing MOBA about 40k no matter how much 10th sucks.
>>98044705You're changing the topic because you don't like the argumentHere; let grok explain it to you since you like to outsource your brain to AI. looks like he's comparing Space Wolves to fast food and Chinese plastic toys. Not a good look!
>>98044748>I'm just using my krieg as Steel Legion minis.
How cancer is it to run a unit of 11 models that all have different weapon loadouts?
Any TSons fags in, gonna start this army for 11th and was wondering how this 1k list looks++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FACTION KEYWORD: Chaos - Thousand Sons+ DETACHMENT: Grand Coven (Kindred Sorcery)+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1000pts++ WARLORD: Char1: Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings+ ENHANCEMENT: Eldritch Vortex of E'taph (on Char1: Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings)+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 8+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (2x2) - Assassination: 4 Characters+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Char1: 1x Daemon Prince of Tzeentch with wings (205 pts): Warlord, Dark Blessing, Hellforged weapons, Infernal cannonEnhancement: Eldritch Vortex of E'taph (+35 pts)Char2: 1x Sorcerer (80 pts): Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Pandaemonic Delusion, Prosperine khopeshChar3: 1x Sorcerer (80 pts): Force weapon, Inferno bolt pistol, Pandaemonic Delusion, Prosperine khopeshChar4: 1x Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (85 pts): Force weapon, Gaze of Hate, Inferno combi-bolter5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)• 4x Rubric Marine 2 with Close combat weapon, Inferno boltgun 1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Inferno boltgun 1 with Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Inferno bolt pistol5x Rubric Marines (100 pts)• 4x Rubric Marine 2 with Close combat weapon, Inferno boltgun 1 with Icon of Flame, Close combat weapon, Inferno boltgun 1 with Close combat weapon, Soulreaper cannon• 1x Aspiring Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Inferno bolt pistol1x Mutalith Vortex Beast (170 pts): Betentacled maw, Mutalith claws, Warp vortex5x Scarab Occult Terminators (180 pts)• 4x Scarab Occult Terminator 2 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh 1 with Inferno combi-bolter, Prosperine khopesh, Hellfyre missile rack 1 with Prosperine khopesh, Soulreaper cannon• 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer: Force weapon, Malefic Curse, Inferno combi-bolter
>>98044765Nta but didn't you catch a 3 day ban? Why are you still here?
>>98044765Ok. Grok is free, I can do another. How would YOU word it in the most objective language, furnigger?You won't answer this question, I bet.
>>98044786the #1 thing you should do with your first 1k list is make sure that all of those 1000 points fit into your 2k list
>>98044783The only "cancer" is that you have to roll for each separate, so if you're efficient with your throws, or smart (different color/symbol dice agreed with opponent, maybe on a little card as a reminder), it's not much of an issue
>>98044761I like Tanks over Artillery!Besides! Krieg started as an alt paint scheme for steel legion minis so it's come full circle
>>98044792Its bang on 1k rn which is niceadditions for 2k would probably be stuff like>5 extra scarab occult for 10 man deep striking termie brick>Magnus then there's 385 points left to play with
>>98044808https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KE-TPVJUSU&t=20s
>>98044791The Wolves are popular because of their lore and appearance.
>>98044821I genuinely don't get why the comments are malding over this. It's so hypocritical, sorry the other gas mask legion wasn't as popular! It must be so offensive that the coat is too long and the eyes aren't visible.They're the same fucking mini, always have been, always will be - krieg and steel legion are one in the same.
>>98044851I deserve better bait than this. You deserve better bait than this.
>>98044670All my games in 10th were on "recommended" layouts.Good luck trying to make anyone play anything different.
>>98044865>Krieg was nothing but a steel legion paint scheme once upon a timeRefute this, you can't
>>98044870Anon... Please... Give me good bait... I'm starving to death...
>>98044653Those are some open DZ. Deep striking or outflanking shooters are gonna have a field day with enemy home objectives, hidden or not.
>>98044875Maybe this isn't bait, maybe it's my unfiltered, 100% concentrate dogshit opinion /w pulp
steel legion is getting new models doe
>>98044783Very, apparently, which is why 10th made it not matter and everyone has "[Unit] melee weapons" instead. Remember Flails of Corruption?
https://youtu.be/wgl0MBTWV3I?si=Qa_m9-X4k1Va1yAOPre-painted terrain is officially a relatively thing and they showed off the new Ork bikers by accident too. Would post pic but we are out of images.Will post in new thread.
>>98044881>it's my dogshit opinionWe both know you're not a fucking retard>>98044884They're gonna be so fucking ass
>>98044892That's a self made problem because they keep enforcing shitty schizo loadouts.
should I paypig for the vostroyan firstborn??I don't even play guard
>>98040967>fashion is my passion
>>98044904there are so many great things in 40k right now, I find it difficult to justify getting a bunch of old metal miniatures if they are not the one single thing I'm obsessing about.
>>98044896>by accidentI don't think so>pre painted terrain is realDevilish cackle aside, when can we expects models to come pre painted?
>>98044904Just 3d print cheaper and better vostroyans.
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>>98044904I'd say yes simply because you can resell them. Some people will want them after the MtO has passed
>>98044896Why, it's Sir Edmund Ecclesborough, and so soon after his recent splash at the Armageddon box reveal. How very exciting!
>>98044896>by accident>displayed front and center in the videoAnon...
>>98044896It's basic but that board looks significantly better than anything in 10th already.
>>98044669That's an original look, not a lot of Nurgle princes out here
>>98044786Looks good, but run the rubrics as flamers instead, immensely better than boltguns (for overwatch).
>>98044899Box only anon! Wouldn't want Timmy getting angry cuz the rules say you're best off with all axes but the box only gives you two per five bodies.
>>98042783He spooky, nice
>>98044786Personally I prefer flamer rubrics and using terminators for longer range shooting, but this could still work.Other than that I’d go for the regular Daemon Prince for its stealth aura, as well as the Spirit Snare ability. When your rubrics get targeted, you can choose to have the wounds kill off the Aspiring Sorcerer first, and give the Sorcerer character attached to that unit +1 to his spell rolls.
