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The genie's out of the bottle edition

>Pre-painted Terrain:
https://youtu.be/wgl0MBTWV3I?si=Qa_m9-X4k1Va1yAO

>Box Reveal:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/x2allqya/warhammer-40000-armageddon-whats-in-the-box/

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru
https://40k.gallery/

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh

>Alternative rules:
https://www.starbreach.com/home
https://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/

>Pre 10th Torrent:
Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5

>10th Edition Rules:
https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTL
https://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A

>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)
https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent

>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)
https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent

>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)
https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent

>Previous thread:
>>98044923

>Thread question:
So how do you feel about prepainted models?
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>>98048220
>tq
you want prepainted models you might as well just buy funko pops
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whats the appeal behind people using an airbrush for skin and then base painting the rest of the model? is it just to speed the process up?
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>>98048220
>TQ
I've been saying they'd start doing it ever since they started giving half a shit about tournament play, it's not a matter of feelings, but inevitability
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>>98048220
what does corpse starch taste like?
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>>98048220
>TQ

honestly its going to look worse seeing that on the table than greytide. at least with a greytide army the player at least had the intention of painting it, someone with pre painted shit never had any interest in that part of the hobby to begin with
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Prepainted is the death of the hobby
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>>98048236
chicken
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>>98048236
Probly like low quality potatoes because it says its starch right on the label.
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>>98048237
>at least with a greytide army the player at least had the intention of painting it
No they didnt
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>>98048243
i mean some of them have a crack, even if some of the army is base coated or half done they at least tried
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>>98048237
At a certain point I started running a half gray tide eldar army. I painted most of it , but I didn't have the colors for all the aspect warriors and didn't want to just paint them identically to my vehicle paint scheme. My list runs three falcons, two with 5 fire dragons in them and a wave serpent with 10 dire avengers in it. Only my fire dragons and swooping hawks arnt painted.
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>>98048230
I kind of second this sentiment. My only issue is tournament play. I’ve never known this game to be remotely well balanced. So I don’t really think it should be a thing, and therefore I don’t think prepainted models should be a thing. But since tournaments exist, pre painted models probably will.

The only people I’ve ever met who actually wanted prepainted models were children or adults who otherwise don’t have their shit together.
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I like orks :D
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>>98048236
Depends. What does Onions Green taste like?
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>>98048220
Prepainted never looks as good. I think GW is too cheap to change their printing process to accommodate repainted though so Im not worried about it happening.
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>>98048220
I look forward to the day some goof with a prepainted Phobos marine calls you a fake secondary grog zoomer with nomodels and nogames because you think his prepainted model looks like shit.
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going to assemble some new boyz walking into “da big boy club”, but I got the main scene down.
which looks better?
>boy arguing with bouncer because he’s 5’11 while snotling blows a raspberry behind his back
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>>98048269
or
>boy looks exasperated and complains to his friend as the snotling openly mocks them
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>>98048230
I'd say it's not even about tournament play.
GW went from a hobby company that sold warhammer to a warhammer company.

Modern GW knows that what sells is warhammer the universe.
Despite warhammer gaining popularity, painting and assembly, hobbying as a whole was never popular. People would love to play with the models but don't want to go through the hassle of assembling and painting them.

One measure to alleviate this are the minis being more "dynamic" (which is a misnomer) and contrast paints.

If your goal is to sell more, you're gonna follow the money, and the money says pre-painted models is what people want, because they don't care about hobbying, they just want to get on the action of the popular game of warhammer(tm) and have fun, like you'd play magic the gathering, gamble, hang out or whatever is a "fun" passtime.
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>>98048269
First. Also nothing wrong with being 5'11"
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>>98048220
>TQ
Not interested
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>>98048237
>at least with a greytide army the player at least had the intention of painting it
Ahahahahaha! hahahahahahahaha!hahahahahahahaha!
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>>98048247
>"Cmon man. Just one little game? I'll paint my models please! Just 4 more years man! 4 more years!"
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BIG
BOUNCY
BANSHEE
BUTTS
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>>98048277
"No I swear this IS their paint scheme, they are the Grey Wardens chapter".
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>Haven't played since the end of 8th (well i played 1 game of 9th but the less said about that the better)
>Decide I need to go back to basics when it comes to modling because I've kind of melted my brain with overly complex projects above my ability, going to buy that new marine starter
>Writing a souc book for my chapter
>Driving my self insane because my cool idea is above my ability
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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So Tau are pretty much DoA in 11th until their codex drops, yes?
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>TQ
In regards to commercially sold models it opens the floodgates for the unwashed faggot masses. It appeals to the lazy and the pleb. I'm not opposed to them making limited edition runs of models in different colored plastics (say Khorne Berserkers in a red plastic) or offering singular instances of a prepainted model as a tournament or convention reward, I think those are ultimately irrelevant and retain a sense of novelty. But once you start seeing precolored ready to play units on the shelf, why bother? You'll never be able to properly paint over it or customize it by repositioning the limbs or head while the laziest people will just buy the armies GW prints (i.e. stock Ultramarines and Cadians). It just spiritually guts everything.
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>>98048228
you can get both subtle and striking gradients, highlights and shading when airbrushing which is difficult to achieve with a brush without 9001 layers of glazes
skin tone paints generally have pretty poor coverage too which airbrushing alleviates

i airbrush three different colours for my skin which gives my faces a bit of depth imo
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>>98048250
The games are shit, besides blood bowl James never really made good games, The hobby is the modelling and painting. People who are into 40k because they want to play competitively are retarded.
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>>98048302
This.
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>>98048236
Moist cardboard.
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Why are the Tau so hated even after 25 years of being introduced? Is it just a loud minority?
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>>98048274
fair enough, I can also put a new boy behind the skarboy to make it clear who’s going to be allowed in and who’s not.
>nothing wrong with being 5’11
nothing wrong with it, but it still means you aren’t allowed in da big klub :)
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>>98048311
Shooty army
Animeish
Memories of Imba (fish of fury, riptides)
Not 40kish (whether true or not not the point)
Depictions in lore (often winning)
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Why are people thinking they will have pre-painted models for everything? it's just terrains
One of the new pack even comes with some paint for the miniatures
Do you also realize how much it would cost to have two version of every units (one pre-made and one custom made) to be released?
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>>98048311
It's a loud minority. I know a guy who pre-nu40k hate both Tau and Eldar because of how their specialized units almost never fail at their specialty completely ignoring their status as glass cannons that need to be almost certain to blow up a vehicle for example. Then when nu40k started and the Marines got all melta and all flames units without being glass cannons he pitched about that too.
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>>98048323
>Why are people thinking they will have pre-painted models for everything?
Who said that? If they did this it would probably be as part as some prepacked force, like a pre-painted combat patrol.
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>>98048323
If they do it for terrain why would they not eventually do it for other stuff, if it does well?
>One of the new pack even comes with some paint for the miniatures
That's been a thing for ages.

>Do you also realize how much it would cost to have two version of every units (one pre-made and one custom made) to be released?
No I don't. Do you?
But yeah, if it were to happen they'd probably only do pre-painted marinebabs as a special edition fomo thing.
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>>98048228
Because it's particularly important for skin to look smooth, especially on females. Plus as >>98048301 mentioned brighter skin tones usually have shit coverage and get chalky pretty easily which airbrush can help with. Spoilered since not 40k
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>>98048323
I think it might come eventually, but you're right that it likely won't be in the immediate future. If anything would be prepainted it would be the marine starterset for babies
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>>98048320
I don't have a Tau army but back in 7th as an experiment me and one of the players at my club proxyed a Triptide list to show the other players just how broken it was ans why the guy who wanted to start a new Tau army shouldnt because no one would want to play against him. It was right up there with Farseer+Warlocks on jet bikes during 5th in terms of how broken it was.
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>>98048327
yes glass cannons like the twin lance
>T6 W8 (total 16) 2+ 4++
or the riptide
>t9 W14 2+ 4++
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>>98048337
I like this sent and I'm not a baby >:(
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>>98048341
I'm talking about a decade ago. That shit wasn't in the game yet. I'm talking about a guy i knew from 4th to 7th edition.
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>>98048327
>Eldar and Tau
>Glass Cannons
Lol
Never were. That's just a lie Eldar and Tau player like to push to feel better, alongside them being army with a high skill requirement.
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>>98048343
>Buys loyalist marines
>'Not a baby'
Hmmmmmm
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>>98048348
Dark Eldar are the only real glass canons in the game. They can do crazy damage but holy shit do they just fold like wt tissue paper if you can push into them.
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>>98048350
I was going to do Eldar but marines are cooler
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>>98048345
>I'm talking about a decade ago.
The Riptide came out 13 years ago
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looking to buy a battle mat
any brand recommendations?
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>>98048294
just b urself
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>>98048333
terrain are far more niche as they are shared between players or even given by the place, it's not something usually as personal as the units
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>>98048359
And the riptide was only out for 1 year before I stopped playing against him.
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>>98048323
If you think it's gonna stay just terrain you're a fucking moron
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>>98048348
That poster must be an elder player who ran Falcons with Holofields in 5th. "Glass Cannon" indeed. Lol.
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I loke grots
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If pre-paint ended up happening, I wonder if it would lead to some armies that are usually not played a lot due to their complexity to build/paint but that are very popular in the fluff to get a lot of new players (Admech, SoB)
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>>98048378
They would need to buy all new machines to print the models and I just don't think they're willing to invest that kind of money.
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>Pre painted Models
Great idea or the end of the hobby?
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If a new army was made but it HAS to be imperium, what should it be?
>hard mode : no space marine new variant
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>>98048387
Amazing idea. Milk those marinepiggies for all they have.
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>>98048378
see you next edition when nothing happened
>>98048386
not only this but they also makes a lot of money selling paint, so they would need to spend a lot and receive less money (unless they make the miniatures significantly more expensive, which would be complicated if you are aiming for new players)
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>>98048383
at least they give us a proper model for the grot this time, only the painboss got one
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>>98048277
>>98048285
>>98048289
am i being a little too optimistic?

>>98048249
id hate to play against that list, fuckin fire dragon spam
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>Custodes are supposed to be the most overpowered faction in the fluff
>Is the most poor-fag and one of the most beginner friendly army of the game (with low cost even to paint)
eh.
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>>98048387
is shit, i can't believe there are people (zoomers) out there who will refuse to actually build and paint their models in a hobby about that just by sheer unadulterated laziness.
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>>98048401
what does that have to do with that? you can cover your custodes in gold leaf if you want
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>>98048398
My most regular opponent takes 6 tanks in his guard list. I need them.
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>>98048334
>>98048301
i get that part but ive seen people do it JUST for a basecoat on say, orks. it makes sense to achieve those gradients but half the time people are just doing it for the basecoat and then adding layers / highlights on top of it with a brush. ive never used skin tones before so that makes sense, too many paints with shit coverage
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>>98048387
I'm ok with pre-painted terrain. Especially if it cuts down on those depressing tournament terrain photos.
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>>98048386
But they're trying it with terrain.
And pre painted models would sell.
So I don't think it's hard for them to justify to the board the investment.

The reality is they already are gonna buy new machines down the line as technology improves. Maybe in 10 years plastic will be a hassle and they'll switch to a new wonder material, like other companies are already doing right now.
>>98048395
Who knows when it'll drop, I ain't the one talking about next edition, smartass
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>>98048268
You would be less upset in life if you would stop creating strawmen to get angry at
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>>98048406
yeah fair enough, im not a fan of list tailoring but fuck that guy
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>>98048412
is there a decent paint scheme for that shitty mdf L shaped ruins terrain? i feel like its so basic that even a good paint job wouldnt improve it much
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>>98048405
>implying
What are you, a poorfag? Solid gold or nothing.
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>>98048415
Ever since the force organization chart was removed from the game everyone I know started running spam lists.
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>meant to be playing a few games soon
>decided to include a squad of burnas that arent painted
>not really keen to paint them as they are getting a new kit soon

im torn between running an unpainted squad (which i fucking hate doing) and spending my time painting something else, or just putting myself through it just so the entire army is painted
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>>98048427
It doesn't help that the current Detachments system heavily incentivizes it when only certain units in your army get a special rule.
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>that small percentage of competitive players in a group chat that cant wrap their hands around the fact that players (mostly casual) use non-meta units in their lists

these are the sorts that play about 5 games a week on average and go to GTs all the time. even the thought of running a non-meta army makes them ill, its unbelievable.
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>>98048439
Competitive 40k, lol, no, LMAO, even
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>>98048422
that looks sick, is it the worlds goldest gold paint?
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>>98048439
I'm a tad fascinated by waac/competitive/"theory crafting" combo fags. It's such a self centered way of playing a game. You might as well be a computer, all they care about is themselves, their victory, their strategy.
They're not their for the game itself either, it's all just about them.
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>>98048414
You would be him
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>>98048439
Isn't this a game? Why try to turn it into some retarded e-sport?
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>>98048448
what you are looking at is a custodian recasted in pure silver and plated with gold
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>>98048452
>someone mentions something about just starting an EC army
>YEAH BUT YOU NEED 3 DAEMONS PRINCES WITH WINGS OTHERWISE ITS NOT COMPETITIVE, ITS NOT A COMPETITIVE LIST ANON
>tfw poor anon had never played in a tournament and had no intention of doing so
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>>98048454
>>98048452
>>98048439
Wherever there are Johnnys and Timmies, there will be Spikes. Really though this is a Vorthos hobby for people that hate Melvins.
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>>98048454
i guess some people enjoy that part of the hobby a little too much
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>>98048420
I've painted some flat panel MDF kits before and I think the key to making look alright is adding as much texture and weathering as you can to distract from the lack of details.
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>>98048457
>newfag comes in
>hey guys, never played warhammer before, rate my 2k list, is it good on the tabletop
I want to cry everytime out of sheer pain and disappointment
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>>98048452
My local meta has both competitive and casual players in it. If I don't run a meta-list I'll lose over half the games I play. I run Ork, Eldar and Necron armies. My Orks are the more casual/fluffy list I use against the other casual players but I run Eldar and Necrons against the competitive players. Just the way she goes.
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>>98048269
first one
>>98048274
>Also nothing wrong with being 5'11"
condolences champ
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>>98048462
blame tournament youtubers
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Reposting last night's progress on the chinork warkopta scratchbuild. The gaps around the side guns have been patched since then.

Asking again for more input - I'll be adding landing components at some point but trying to decide between wheeled landing gears (as per the original chinook), or skates to evoke the other ork kopta designs.

Also, what have you all been working on?
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>>98048471
What weapons are you putting on it?
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>got some models in the mail
>primed purple, silver and blakc
>i LIKE this colourscheme so now it's mine
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You would think that Custodes are Emperor's Children with how much Custodes spergs like to pretend they are perfect.
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>>98048493
I've literally never met a Custodes player. Never had a single game against them.
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>>98048493
Custodea fo the "Flamboyant super warriors" fantasy better no doubt.

AoS did a better job with Slaanesh.
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>Groovy
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>>98048501
>AoS did a better job
same as it ever was
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>>98048502
I hate that so many artists nowadays are great at lighting but fucking suck at proportions and perspective.
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>>98048502
Why kill an innocent ork?
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>>98048388
Frateris militia
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>>98048522
>innocent
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>>98048518
The problem here is the texture, everything looks smooth and clean like a fucking toy.

Early 40k artists understood grit, and grease, and grime.
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>>98048537
He din' du nuffin
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>>98048388
Frateris Templars. (Basically same as SoB but male)
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>>98048388
Hive citizens
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>>98048294
ask chatGPT
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>>98048388
Turn the navy in a full army where you can field plenty of space marines (not Space Marines).
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>>98048475
Scratchbuilt a couple of three barreled guns at the forward door positions to count as the rattler cannons, and then there will be a twin big shoota nose gunner.
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>>98048401
The better part of the army is made for 30k, it's just a matter of when GW does the rugpull for 40k.
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>>98048388
>88
Ok fine. I'll bite.
>time warp old militia prior to imperium, HH era
or
>Imperial Knights are tempermental and solo worlds, WHERE IS THEIR FUCKING INFANTRY?!

I would go with the imperial knights infantry. They have tech according to admech and horus heresy era, I meak Volkite and shit. Imagine imperial guard with special weapons akin to volkite, plasma gun, etc...
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First purchase for 11th
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>>98048311
I don't mind them. I just think it's lame how they never almost never lose hard in the lore. They should focus on the grim dark parts of the faction, they're too noblebright rn imo
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>>98048584
you're a fag for boxposting but these are cool as fuck so I'll give you a pass
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looking for desert rocks terrain, that actually look more like rocks instead of game pieces

any recommendations?
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>>98048599
rocks
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>>98048237
>at least with a greytide army the player at least had the intention of painting it
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>The armaggeddon box with all the guard tanks just arrived today
>And I still got an unassembled extra rogal dorn
>But I still have to paint so much shit and I'm about to add more grey horrors to my unpainted army

what do I do bros? painting takes so fucking long
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>>98048343
shut the fuck up sleepy
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>>98048269
>WELCOME TO DA SALTY SQUIG
>HOW ORKY IS YA?
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>>98048220
>tq
It was inevitable to be a thing.
But I have a feeling the prepainted models will be marked up possibly to forgeworld prices versus the unpainted models.
The “best” possible part would be cannibalizing the packaging for prepainted models to be used for transporting minis as far as I know.
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>>98048612
>what do I do bros?
You start painting
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>>98048228
Lighter skin tones tend to need more layers.
An airbrush is just to speed things up.
I need to clean my airbrush and restore it.
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>>98048612
build one thing/squad
paint it
move onto next
dont get stuck with a ton of building or painting to do, take it one at a time
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>>98048539
>everything looks smooth and clean
You just have to wait for the blood and dirt to cover them.
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I want men of iron

NOW!!!!!!
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>>98048663
calm down homo
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Can Eldar regrow limbs in the lore? Either naturally or by technology/warp shit.
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>>98048663
Votann just got them
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>>98048685
Those are gay though. I want evil killer robots. Not le ebin egyptian robots or muh ancestor dwarf robots.
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>>98048682
Probably. I haven't seen any eldar with bionic limb replacements
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>>98048582
>WHERE IS THEIR FUCKING INFANTRY?!
Guard.
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>>98048682
>naturally
No, never been mentioned in any lore, regeneration as an innate biological trait would be notable.
>technology/warpshit
Very likely yes. We know Dark Eldar can do it, explicitly. We know Eldar technology is supposed to be highly advanced. We know they are highly psychic and biomancy is a psychic discipline. With all these combined it seems obvious that regrowing limbs would be easy for them.
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>>98048692
>I want evil killer robots
They just look like votann robots. There'd be no difference.
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>>98048663
Bad Dragon has one for you.
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>>98048697
Imperial Knights infantry is not Guardsmen, lorelet.
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>>98048502
Ain't it weird that humans are unironically the most powerful beings in the setting?
Orks can grow larger and are naturally tougher...too bad their armour is tin cans most of the time.
Necrons are regenerating metal, yet humans are the only 2+/4++ deepstrike around.
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I like Eldar but won't use aspect warriors because I refuse to use someone elses scheme
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I want men

NOW!!!!!!
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>>98048708
>Ain't it weird that humans are unironically the most powerful beings in the setting?
Are you retarded?
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>>98048582
>ported solar auxilia to 40k as legends rules
>infantry just storm section with axes supported by tanks
Id love to see that.
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>>98048711
Calm down, decalmutant.
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>>98048709
You know that aspect shrines on different craftworlds have slightly different colors, right? Really you can paint them however you want.
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I want Deldar pussy

NOW!!!!!!
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>>98048723
Oh okay
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>>98048706
You in the same boat as me? Khight infantry as their own thing yeah?
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>>98048404
>sheer unadulterated laziness.
>zoomer
Hit me close to home.
How do I motivate myself to hobby when I have free time?
And how do I spread this advice that works to others like me?
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>>98048725
>pussy
>posts a picture that looks like a disgusting tranny in drag with fake tits
Yuck dude
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>mutants
not human
>muhreens
not human
>custodes
not human
>non-terrans
not human

all mere cattle for true humans, the Terrans, the chosen of the Emperor
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>>98048731
100% yes, mostly feudal footmen in plate armor and cavalry with some guns. Also they need the Mechanicus support units that fix and maintain the giant Knight mechs.
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>>98048736
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>>98048733
trannies look like THAT?
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>>98048522
He's just disarming him anon, that'll grow back in a week tops.
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i bought all 90 issues of the combat patrol magazine plus the speicial editions and the character editions and the terrain. And I havent painted a single mini of it
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>>98048718
If we're importing 30k into 40k then we might as well bring in Mechanicum and then keep automata ally-ins for legions/SA, just to rub it in for Admech players.
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>>98048748
Orks dont regrow limbs. They get bioniks or the painboy finds a dead ork of about the right size and grafts the pieces onto the patient to turn them into a frankenork
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>>98048747
Forgot your puke reaction pic, king
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>>98048736
Damn, based?
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>>98048311
No one cares but fags who still haunt like 1d6chan or whatever it's called now.
Ancient grog fags who haven't bought models in years and just repeat the tired old memes because they have no personality or life
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>>98048343
> I'm not a baby
> Tranime image
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>>98048459
>Melvins
I don't even know what that one is, but yes, 40k is for Vorthos players primarily
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>>98048412
It won't because it will be so insanely expensive no tournament organizer is going to pay for multiple tables worth of it
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>>98048384
The UV printing method they're using to prepaint sprues really can't be used for anything more complex than terrain and vehicles. Any mini made with the process would look like ass unless they went to 2nd edition levels of 2d sculpts.
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>>98048755
The mechanicus for 40k playerbase probably proxies the 30k models more than 40k space marines would just because of how better looking the admech are in 30k than their 40k model counterparts.
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>>98048455
Imagine the FLEX of playing with that army.
Then it goes viral.
Then urban youths start jumping 40k players outside the LGS as they think all the armies are actually made of silver
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>>98048787
>be strong castellax
>be strong for omnissiah
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>>98048387
Im willing to buy a whole prepainted Krieg army
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>>98048780
Why wouldn’t your popular LGS invest in 9-10 tables of the stuff for tournaments? Seems like a smart Investment that would draw players to your place.
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The worrisome thing to me about the 11th edition previews is they keep showing detachments but not any rule changes. Which implies a lot of things are getting left as-is no matter how awkward they'll be for 11th.
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>>98048584
> HECKIN first purchase-a-rino!!!
> Look at my EPIC Warhammer branded reusable tote (I only had to spend £250 in store to get it for £5.99!!!)
Maybe you need to go
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>>98048736
>only humans on terra are true humans
Nobody is prepared for that truth. Not even someone knowing it is coming.
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>>98048787
Considering this is what GW thinks Admech (advanced technologic-obsessed warriors) should use is not a surprise.
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>>98048806
vgh................ sovl...........
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>>98048736
>>98048802
Then what are those others "not humans"? What's their category?
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>>98048806
They are retarded luddites. Obviously they use some dumbass ornithopter.

Dark Mech would have some cool shit
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>>98048766
1d6c at this point is probably somewhat aware what its predecessor might have been responsible for. Nobody there wants to make an article on outrageous meme-tier things like combat wheelchairs that would've been made a decade ago, and elsewhere people are thinking shit Fish of Fury might have been blown out of proportion.
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>>98048795
> Nooo why wouldn't an LGS just throw down 6k in cash (a tables worth will be at least 600 bucks) for tournaments that will eventually pay itself off, if you charge for the tournament, in like 3 years?????
Jesus you have never run a business. Very very few LGSs have that sort of ready cash on hand for something that ISNT product that can move
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>>98048806
*flap**flap**flap**flap*
>>98048815
Dark Mech should use Da Vinci stuff too.
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>>98048584
I just finished painting mine
make sure you aren't lazy and paint the stipes on the shoulder pads :^)

>>98048799
you are mentally ill
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>>98048788
A 40k army is a better flex than designer clothes at this point if one wants to flaunt wealth.
Though I might be a little bit biased.
I wouldn’t be surprised if e-girls are already trying to appeal to 40k nerds to get some of their loaded pockets to be used on them instead.
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>>98048806
stop posting this thing, please
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>>98048522
>Innocent? He's charged with being a xeno, and you're charged with being an accomplice of the xeno.
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>>98048713
Hey, you're the one who isn't sure, moron. Lmao
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>>98048806
This thing gets too much hate. The admech are supposed to feel schizophrenic and all over the place when it comes to tech levels. That's their whole thing. The skitarii have wooden guns out of the 18th century that fire bullets with micro-computers and hyper-advanced electrical engineering tech inside them.
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>>98048828
>xeno
Is there any more sure sign of tourist
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What is every sniper unit in the game? And which one is the best actual sniper?
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>>98048817
I was gonna say you’re overdoing the cost but did the math and you’re right, fuck even the cheap pieces add up to a whole lot for just 10 tables. Maybe they could do a fundraiser idk.
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>>98048843
GSC jackal alphus is the coolest and most SOVLful
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>>98048848
>best sniper isn't the best because of her sniping but because her fat ass lures in people
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>>98048806
I like it. Variable geometry seems like the right step forwards but we can't figure it out. Those guys did full size supersonic ornithopters
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Hope points costs go up this edition
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>>98048830
Literally nothing excusing this retardation considering admech also make the jets, tanks and everything else of the imperium
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>>98048814
goyim
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>>98048796
Yeah? We knew this a month ago. 90% of the rule changes are the new detachment system and the new missions/terrain. And 10% are just changes of wording.
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>>98048843
The Haruspex is the best sniper by virtue of being the funniest
Nobody expects to be tongue fucked by a tyranid
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>>98048875
Nta but I just think they were going for uniqueness rather than consistency and I personally think it paid off. The thing is very kino.
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>>98048874
>Hope GW makes it so people buy less models this edition
Be real
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>>98048893
The retardation of yesterday is the kino of today
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>>98048273
GW will become a toy company.
I guess pic related has some truth in it.
>>98048323
It always starts like that.
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>>98048898
People would be more open to having multiple armies
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>>98048874
They always go up at the start so that the number of models in a 2k army is smaller and therefore less intimidating to new players, then every "balance update" will whittle the points down across the edition to make everyone buy more shit but nothing actually gets more balanced by this because every army gets points cuts and it's basically a wash.
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Ork rokkits seem decent enough, why do imperial rockets have to suck in every single edition? Even more now that they cost the exact same as a lascannon.
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>>98048736
The humans on "Terra" aren't true humans either and the planet isn't really earth either.
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>>98048899
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>>98048916
I'm just going to play 1k points
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>>98048917
Because if you have a rocket launcher you get to pick between krak and frag rounds and a gun that can choose ammo to suit it's targets should obviously be worse than a gun that only has a single profile
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>>98048899
Considering How I now See people prasing dogshit moves from 2000 as "good" I am not suprised.
I guess something shit done with sincirety is better than Commitee oriented garbage.
(WHo cares that the shit of yesteryear was also filled with corporate medeling)
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>>98048899
Are all the people who think that's kino with us in this thread right now?
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What's more valuable in terms of Imperial resources allocated to producing it, a Temple Assassin or a Space Marine Chapter Master?
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>>98048945
But nobody takes tockets precisely because they do shit at both jobs and now they cost the same as the weapons that are actually good. As a middle ground like rokkits they would actually have a niche.
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>>98048954
How many classic movies today were considered dogshit when they came out? I'm ok with finding new angles to something I didn't like in the past, but that doesn't mean everything old just needs some time to become good. There's still plenty of old things that keep being shit.
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>>98048960
Old goon New Bad
Repeat since fucking Civilisations Fertile Crescent
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>>98048928
It is actually Earth, GW just has a horrifically bad understanding of galactic structures and they had no idea how to represent that on a galaxy map in a way that makes sense. People have tons of artifacts from actual earth history.
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>>98048981
The 13th Warrior anyone? Although I liked it as a younger lad too so maybe I’m off on that one.
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>friend brings stormlord with yarrick to a 1k pt game
>my eldar make a good try at killing the stormlord but get shot off the board
my fault for bringing a windrider host against a superheavy but it was still funny trying to dent this thing with vypers and war walkers.
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>>98048989
Loved that movie. Got up early on sunday with my dad weaving chainmail while watching it more than a few times.
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>>98048899
What are the finest examples of this in 40k models?
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>>98048295
Nah. A lot of the good firepower is already relatively close ranged.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1j6efpun/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-adeptus-custodes/
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>>98049006
Wolf sleigh.
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>>98048985
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>>98048981
I’m afraid that some stuff I enjoyed in my childhood is not as good as I remembered it.
I know that meme of everything you liked as a kid was awesome but apparently there will be exceptions.
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>>98049008
Why use fusion blasters when rail guns are right there? Their tanks ignore terrain too
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>>98049010
I loved my Wolf Sled right up until I accidentally hit it off the table and watched it explode into pieces.
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>>98048954
That post hurt me not just because I will never have a big lady supporting wife like that pic but also that the majority of my childhood joys were in some ways corporate controlled sewage.
Including 40k.
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My local is doing an apocalypse game, should I take the dreadnought swarm or do an Eldar wraith assault with revanent titan
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>>98049009
This detachments gonna be really funny when they send the actual custards dreadnoughts to legends once the edition drops
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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There's an old story about some monkeys that were trained so that when one went for the bananas on top of the enclosure, the rest of them would get hosed with cold water, so they learned to beat the shit of any monkey that tried. Whenever they'd add a new monkey, the first thing they'd try was to go for the bananas and promtly get the shit beaten out of them. Eventually they started rotating the monkeys out, no longer spraying the monkeys but the tradition stayed, until one day the enclosure was full of monkeys who'd never been hosed but would still beat the shit out of any monkey that tried going for the bananas.

What were we talking about again?
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>>98048893
They weren't going for uniqueness. They just said "let's do the Dune ornithopter except more retarded and gay".
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>>98049010
Fair enough.
How about for the guard as that’s my faction?

And what particular models will never be considered good except by chronic contrarians?
For me I think the toilet paper cadian command squad guy was awful.
An absolute downgrade from the metal cadian command squad medic.
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>>98048928
Holy shit did my schizophrenic theory actually gain traction with some people?
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>>98048341
The Riptide isn't made of glass and its shooting isn't exceptional. Hasn't been a glass cannon in a long time if ever.
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American modelposters that are reasonable dudes, join the /40kg/ official server so that we have more NA reps. right now euros are ruling the roost and we have a pretty chill time with bantz without worrying about the janny banning for off topic

only hobbyists and tabletop players are allowed in so you don't have to worry about shit stirrers or random tranny drama since the average age is 30+

Give it a shot even if you hate discord just to have a place to talk about 40k that isn't reddit or these threads when shitposers make it un-usable.

Picrel is a model recently painted on the server and it's all 40kg regulars, no bait no censorship. I'll drop the link for anyone that wants to give it a fair shake in good faith if they (You) this post.

>in before faggot janny bans or huuuur get an ad faggot
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>>98049035
Ursula.
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>>98049020
I guess corporations in the past at least pretended they cared abaut making a good product (or I was too young to notice)
>>98049014
>but apparently there will be exceptions
O there ARE. Especialy old animated movies or some games. Sometimes the childs eyes are the best quality enhancer.
Plus i played quite a lot of mid Flash games on game websites. Most of them were not Papa's Pizzeria
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>>98049028
I'm the banana in this metaphor
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>>98048978
Welcome to PL-as-points. Hope your weapons are perfectly balanced!
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>>98049037
I never heard of it but if it did then you should abuse this power to negatively sway the 40k community into believing in something outlandish that when gw confirms it isn’t true it causes a firestorm of anger on social media.
But make sure it would be a positive thing for warhammer 40k if gw caves in and makes it canon.

Speaking of that what things did gw cave intro the community and make canon?
I can only think of saturnine terminators and even that may not count. Maybe the Horus heresy space wolf wolf heads becoming beaky heads proper?
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>>98049009
>Dreadnought detachment to replace Solar Spearhead

Fucking called it.
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>>98049046
>Eurocord
Grim
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>>98049035
>toilet paper cadian command squad
Wait which one was it?
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Tank shock comes with risk now.
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>>98049046
Forgot to add we have 49 40kg regulars on the server in different time zones with no mutant
>>98049057
thats why we need more NA modelGODs to put those eurocunts in their place
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Custodes geting the 30k stuff
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1j6efpun/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-adeptus-custodes/
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Does GW legitimately not know how their own rules work?

Doesn't this interaction just not work how they describe it? For the Greater Good chooses its targets at the start of the shooting phase. I know no one plays rules as written, but this detection range buff takes place after you have selected targets for For the Greater Good. So it literally can't help you reveal targets because you have already picked those targets before this rule comes into effect.

None of the detection range stuff shown for Tau works with the army rule. But they described in the video and the article how they would work together. Did they not do any play testing of this? Not even a 500 point game?
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>>98049046
Mini painting is an inherently European hobby. Not a big surprise. Maybe the Americans would show up if you made the topic about primarch power levels and competitive 40k
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>>98049051
Personally I think corporations were “brave” enough to give things a chance and more leeway in favor of the artist instead of more towards profit.
Now it is more for profit than the artist.
>flash games
Played a lot parents wouldn’t buy a console or handheld vidya game and had no friends (very few neighborhoods kids) so I was an iPad kid but the iPad was the computer and the apps were flash games.

>that pic
Who is best female primarch for long run and who is best for short but most fun?
The artist is good at drawing big cute female primarchs. I do feel like they could use some more muscles. Not hyper muscle fetish but just some more meat to have a warrior woman’s body.

Also I need stls of all the female primarchs based off those artworks for 40k games to see the patrons reactions.
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>>98048988
What if in the future it turns out our current understanding of Earth's position is wrong? Or over the next 20,000 years some events cause it to shift?
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>>98049015
Way cheaper per gun, for one. Rail rifles/guns aren't plentiful. More broadly, being at short range is often a good thing cuz you actually need to contest objectives. Also Tau tanks haven't been able to fly over terrain for a while now.
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Got 2 out of 3 lol, they're so predictable.
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>>98048725
Wish wyches looked like this instead of the weird androgynous cyberpunk look they have now. Even printfags cant fix this without going full coomer or only making one monopose model.
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>>98049084
what if killa kans had cool sneakers?
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the emperor teleported earth to a different spot
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>>98049046
I'd be willing to try it out, but I do worry about some schizo doxing me.
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>>98049049
Are Ursula Creed and Leontus the biggest examples of models only being “used for stats” as vehicles for proxies at this point?
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>>98049024
I was going to sa idk why they would do that, they would lose so much money, but this is james
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>>98049064
>tank hits guy
>tank explodes
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>>98049009
Custodes dreads annoy me. The classic boxnought is exactly what it looks like, a coffin on legs so the mutilated Marine inside can keep on killing even interred in a living hell. Nice classic grimdark. To extend it to the handcrafted golden boys rubs me the wrong way. Also dreads with heads and proper proportions are boring as hell.
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>>98049014
A lot of stuff we enjoyed because we didn't have alternatives.
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>>98049091
Orks would kill them and steal the sneakers for themselves.
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Just came across pic related.
I like this kind of box art.
Would love to see all of the models of their times with this kind of box art.
Anybody got more to post?

I know the box art for models got lazy but I think it is also because idiots may have thought they were gonna get more like the out of focus background models like the soldiers in the pic to the side.
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>>98048985
their civilization collapsed around that time too
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>>98049055
Well if we're at it, I had another schizo theory that Terra was actually mirror Earth from Star Trek in the ancient past, and they were connected by the warp. But in the mirror universe instead of the United Federation of Planets there's the Terran Empire, a brutal and sadistic hegemony that subjugates aliens. Just like in 40k. It also explained why Star Trek Discovery Klingons look like genestealers.
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>>98049084
what if GW just made a map in the 90s without any real concept of galactic structure and GW just has to do the best with what they inherited?
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>>98049075
Best Fem Primarch long term would either be Gullimonto or Sangy Boy (or girl)
>Also I need stls of all the female primarchs based off those artworks for 40k games to see the patrons reactions.
Well then You are in deep shit because Kemono has been IN the state of files not downloading (especially the zip. files) FOR MONTHS. I wanted to get the FemFulgrim but everytime the Site shat the bed. I don't know if the creators are even ATTEMPTING to fix the issiue.
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>>98049022
Revanent titans don't have rules anymore? Not even legends?
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>strat specifically for telemon
>the only one that's still imprisoned in forgeworld goy prison
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>>98049087
I mean, to be fair the army is small as fuck without trying to directly reference Forge World too much. Surprised the Telemon was addressed by name.

>>98049109
If they're going to keep the Venerable Contemptor now that there's an implication of keeping the 30k dreadnoughts, then I want to see the Deredeo or even Leviathan get adopted too.
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I don't think tank shock should be a stratagem but something vehicles and monsters can just do. In fact half of the stratagems in the game have no reason to be stratagems and not just USRs that can just be done.
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>>98049137
I'd rather get boxnoughts firs before bringing back the FW ones.
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>>98049128
>kemono
I’m missing context despite being a hoarder of stls.
Can I have context please?
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>>98049072
nah those nomodel fluff faggots can kill themselves and argue like dogs in the mud. I want only the Enlightened high IQ posters from NA tyvm

>>98049095
make a sockpuppet account. With an email not linked to any of your real life stuff. Almost everyone there is anonymous to each other. All we know are screen names and models bruv. Kiwiniggers get the rope. Either way here's the inv link, join when you're all set anon: (PS: everyone there is 40kg bros tired of the backstabbing and hostility so ur in good company with actual non faggot reddit mods power tripping)

https://discord.gg/ejaDHkwPHn
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>>98049109
>Also dreads with heads and proper proportions are boring as hell.
Now I get what you mean And I love the Classic box dred as much as the next guy.
But I will not hide my enamourment with Contemptors and recent Saturnine dreds.
The first one displays that felling of elegance in the "good old days" and Saturnine is Just a beast and I really want to Paint it in some Primaris chapter colour scheme. (Like Dark Krakens)
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>>98049150
Ideally sure but I want to make sure the basics are covered. Besides I doubt GW will want to put Leviathans back in the radar because it will just showcase how pointless redemptors are.
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>>98049128
>sangy
>long term
Sanguinius got pummeled to a pulp by Horus.
I actually enjoyed how Sanguinius’ death was described in the BL Siege of Terra books.
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>>98049140
The joke is on you. That's the way it used to be. GW wanted to reduce complexity so making players have to pay command points to use the abilities made them easier to balance.
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>>98049156
Think these things will get Legends rules in 11th? I don't think a 'new' Heresy model has gotten any since the Kratos.
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>>98049028
meant for >>98048311 lol
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>>98049006
Centurions
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>>98049166
Does gw still make legends rules for Horus heresy models?
Are they even gonna bother making legends rules for models they don’t even sell?
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>>98049064
The self-damage should only apply if the unit you're tank-shocking is a monster or vehicle itself
The idea that a land raider can run over a guardsman and take any meaningful damage is genuinely retarded.
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>>98049162
How the fuck is locking basic rules behind a metacurrency you have to manage on top of everything else reducing complexity instead of "my guy throws a grenade instead of using his gun" or "my tank uses rank shock in melee because tanks fighting melee like regular units makes no fucking sense"?
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>>98048993
Doesn't windrider host get access to lethal hits for sandblasting big stuff with bikes, or am I thinking of something else?
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>>98049159
least obvious chaos cultist
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>>98049116
Basically all of the old Imperial Armor codexs had pictures like that.
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>>98049179
I mean it exposes the tank tona grenade in the tracks or a hatch.
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>>98049171
I was wondering where that monkey story came from.
Any other examples of it in the warhammer 40k community?
Especially ones relating to each army?
Have a monkey pic that’s a fine representation of me.
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>>98049152
If I heard correctly
>The importer has been broken for a few months. Patreon probably changed something on their end and the kemono dev(s) haven't been able to fix it.
And some wonder if they even bothered atempting to fix it.
>>98049159
listen the competition is very small And Lion is way to autistic to be araund long term. Remember what happend to Luther? The only one is propably Mortarion because sitting on a palace on top of plauge planet Living in Galactic garbage dump and not caring abaut it is I GUESS long term.
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>>98049090
The new Lelith model was the herald of the end. At least AoS gets cute female models once in a blue moon.
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>>98049183
>perty pic
The siege of terra book had that big autist ragequit the siege and take his legion with him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if iron autists now argue that if papa perts didn’t ditch the siege the traitors would have won.
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>>98049180
It reduces complexity because there are fewer possible players actions per turn to account for.
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>>98049041
The Riptide has been a distraction carnifex in most editions since it was introduced.
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>>98049130
Yeah they do, Forgeworld legends rules. Wouldn't bet the farm on them making the cut for 11th tho.
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>>98049133
>>the only one that's still imprisoned in forgeworld goy prison
Anon the Telemon is absolutely going to get a plastic model
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>>98049140
I liked impact hits in WFB/TOW. Mortal wounds are a bit too much of a catchall for my taste.
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>>98048311
Nobody likes some coward weeb faggot using Gundams to nuke his entire army in the shooting phase before he can even get close enough to rip those pussy femboys in half.

Imagine spending all your time on /your dudes/ only for some coward pussy to wipe out most of them before you can do anything except maybe move them. That kinda shit leaves lasting psychic damage

Plus as far as fluff goes they are full of shit communists that are trying to play nice in an evil fucking setting that is trying to rape everyone all the time while heing galactic newfags. So no matter what angle you look at them. Almost everyone hates taufags

t. weeb that loves their japanese mecha aesthetics
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>>98049194
Fair enough.
Now who are the best short term?
I actually do think that the primarchs should have been female as their drama is like high school girl drama to be honest.
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>>98049206
That's not true. The options are the same and you have the extra mental load of the currency system.
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>>98049180
It's more about reducing spam because they don't know how else to do it. If every unit can throw a grenade you have to balance the fact that every unit has now a grenade. If every tank can tank shock you have to deal with the fact that a tank heavy list can just run the enemy over.
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>article seemingly confirms they're keeping the custodes 30K stuff around
>WOAH WOAH WOAH IS THAT A 30K MARINE UNIT? LEGENDS AND GET IT OFF THE BOARD NOWWWWW

yeah okay fuck you then GW
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>>98049179
Getting guts and bones out of the tracks is a pain y'know

>>98049180
I don't mind stratagems for stuff like that but it does annoy me a bit that tanks fight in melee just like anything else, if poorly. I really miss comparative WS, felt like a huge chunk of flavor/simulationism went out the window with it. Why can guardsmen hit a Succubus as easily as they can hit a literal tank?
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>>98049194
>femcruze
i can fix my schizo queen. she wants to be a good girl but does bad things to get there I love her

>>98049205
imagine hard carrying the war and your faggot brothers overdose on Satan drugs. You would want to fuck off as well since the battle was a wash with those useless shutters dragging everything down. Plus based autismo proved he could beat dorn and was smarter so he left after he achieved his personal goals since horus was being a puppet faggot
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>>98049175
Fuck no
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>>98049249
Bra but Centurions are amazing, what do people not like about them looks wise?
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>>98049223
Grenades is easy, just don't give every unit acess to grenades and have them be a paid upgrade like they used to. As for tank shock if you run all your tanks into melee you're gonna lose and a handful of mortal wounds isn't gonna help.
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>>98049257
kill yourself, ban evading cunt
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>>98049230
I wonder how big and physical the office fights got over allowing 30k to 40k crossover model wise for the custodes.
I like to imagine old British executives trying to use staplers pencils pens and keyboards as weapons.
>>98049240
Female curze activates my almonds. Want to be her source of comfort.
If not curze then female lorgar and hope the chaos powers don’t demand I get sacrificed so female lorgar shows her loyalty.
>why perts left
Is that really how it went? I’d say that’s pretty good by bl standards.
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>>98048928
>the planet isn't really earth either.

Yeah, no shit.
15000 years ago, a warlord guided by strange visions left the planet Mallus and began traveling the galaxy. During these travels he learnt how man had come from a seemingly lost planet called Earth, or Terra and that as a whole, man had fractured and broken. During these travels the warlord had developed seemingly divine powers and so he set his mind to uniting all mankind under his rule.

Returning to his homeworld of Mallus, he began reshaping the system, to make it like Earth of old legend, for he knew that that the whole of man, would only submit to a great leader from the original homeworld of humanity. Once done, he set about conquering it before moving to take the rest of the stars. Casting aside his birth name, Sigma, he crowned himself Emperor of Mankind.
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>>98049220
Secondary objective cards are already a huge pain in the ass. I know its meant to help balance so there are more ways to win that just wiping your opponent off the board but I know guys who just can't score them reliability.
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>>98049262
Wow..
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>>98049249
I don't like them, but there are people online who think they're soulful.

For the movie question, as someone who kept waiting for Starship Troopers to get good while I was watching it in theaters, the number of Millenials who grew up watching it on basic cable that call it underrated is rankling.
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>>98048822
40k is already mainstream.
We got some eThot (she THICC too) showing a 3d printed Horus in between imagines of her getting bent over and fucked on a muscle car
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>>98049266
You think gw will make this canon?
Aren’t they dead set on making sure aos isn’t referenced in 40k outside of silly Easter eggs?
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>>98049177
>Does gw still make legends rules for Horus heresy models?

That's what I was asking. Everything that has Legends rules currently was already made before 10th dropped. Saturnine Terminators, Dreadnoughts, as well as Disintegration weapons, etc didn't get anything when HH3 dropped, and when SA got their plastic - the Dracosan never got rules. Things like Leviathans, Fellblades, etc already existed in some form.

On that note, the Rapier battery, funny enough have nearly completely different rules between SM and IG for some reason.
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>>98048337
>land speeder, what appears to be 5 veterns and jump packs and 5 intercestors and some random extra guy and a captain and two paints
>130 dollars
This is better value than the ocmbat patrol.
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>>98049230
I'm even more frustrated that we cannot get ad mech's units from 30k, it would round out the roster in the best way possible.
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>>98049268
Objective cards are the one improvement 10th has over 9th. Trying to pick secondaries while also trying to account for your opponent's possible secondaries was insane. Some armies were actual garbage but got hard carried by easy secondaries.
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>>98048771
she's an elf vtuber with a southern accent
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>>98049276
>3d printed Horus
I’d love for some 3d printed primarch alternative models if you can share those if you have those.
Not interested in the porn part of your answer.

Maybe a 3d proxy of abandon too.
As much as the model is good I’d rather have an stl alternative so I can digitally edit it and make sure it is an Abby that can look usable in pre cadia buck breaking and post buck breaking.
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>>98049263
>If not curze then female lorgar and hope the chaos powers don’t demand I get sacrificed so female lorgar shows her loyalty.
Could be worse.
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>>98049289
What was that? Here, have another Da Vinci-Rube Goldberg machine.
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>>98049257
They look like tonka toys puckee.
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>>98049268
I don't mind the objectivesz I've liked thay kinds thing since the times of maelstrom but stratagems are just annoying and completely not worth trading robust core rules with cool thematic mechanics for. Adding AoS style datasheets with a unique abilitie or more for every single unit is just adding even more trouble.
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>>98049064
>Finally give nids access to tank shock
>Make it bad
To be a nidfag is to suffer
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>>98049294
The Horus is life sized.
That's the gimmick.
She (rather her handler/pimp) is 3d printing a life size Horus
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>>98049282
The difference is that Custodes have like 3 units plus heroes if you remove FW stuff.
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>>98049301
STOP.

On the bright side I like the new techpriest and heavy skitarii, kinda wish the heavy skitarrii were upgrades for the regulars like SM tacticals having heavy weapons but they're alright anyway.
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>>98049276
>some eThot (she THICC too)
Holy shit you weren't kidding. She has a Fartmeat worthy of Plague Father.
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>>98049292
>elf with southern us accent
And I thought a Scottish accent for an elf was a weird but oddly nice one.
I do like Scottish accents.
My favorite accent.

>>98049295
I wish my phone’s resolution was good enough to read all that text on the image.
Can I get a summary please?
I asked earlier about whether the primarchs being female was a better idea but now I just thought.

Would primarchs being retconned to being female cause more outrage than then female custodes retcon?
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>>98049276
>40k is already mainstream
Welp, off to battletech!
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>>98048240
The only possible death of the hobby would be us all getting laid regularly en masse. And don't worry, that's not gonna happen.
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>>98048822
>I wouldn’t be surprised if e-girls are already trying to appeal to 40k nerds to get some of their loaded pockets to be used on them instead.
Ehirls are very aware of warhammer
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>>98049307
On the other hand, you now have a way to turn on the bonus from Crusher Stampede
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>>98049308
>>98049314
>3d printers for something that big.
That’s actually impressive and I like it.
The woman just doesn’t appeal to me.
This coming from a coomer.
She’ll probably still get loads of money out of 40k nerds.
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>>98049310
The quote chain was talking about the absence of Saturnine stuff in 40k HH Legends as if the start of 10th Edition was a cutoff. But that is very true.

What's funny to think about is that they're even more anemic for characters specifically in 30k, other than Valdor and Krole it's just the Shield-Captain, Knight-Centura and Tribune. Suppose they don't have a lot of room for specialists.
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>>98049307
>Crusher Stampede gives them +1 to hit if they've taken damage
Big brain time
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>>98049323
Can’t go to any sci-fi video and not see a comment talking about 40k.
Have warhammer 40k fans become the new bronies in terms of insufferably unavoidability and autism?
How does one be an exception to the rule if true?
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>>98049236
>Getting guts and bones out of the tracks is a pain y'know
No joke, several layers of barbed wire can stop a tank, it gets between the tracks and gets stuck. It's an actual anti tank tactic.
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>>98049325
I though Lumi did a good job, Roca to
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>>98049064
thats good tank shock was way too no brainer
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>>98049325
How does one tell if it is genuine newcomer interest to 40k or just empty performative trend chasing now?
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>>98049330
Most characters in 40k nowadays are little more than a loadout swap with a gimmick nonsensical ability.
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>>98049324
I used to get laid regularly and I still played 40k. I'm mostly had sex with a troon I played D&D with.
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>>98049313
Hastarii look fine yeah, Admech infantry is nice from a design standpoint. A pity that Electro-Priests have shit rules. Guess we can't meme about Inspector Gadget too much when the Heresy Skitarii are packing legs.
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>>98049345
If they keep going. If they stop after a week it was all a farce.
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>>98049345
If they are playing Ultramarine primaris marines then it is performative trend chasing (due to SM2 and the amazon short)
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>>98049314
Jeez those knee bruises, at least she puts in work.
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>>98049345
You just assume the latter as long as its done publicly
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>>98049346
It's still weird to think 30k Custodes don't have Shield-Captains using dickbikes, Venatari jetpacks, or even Aquilon Terminator armour. I guess they're just stubborn?
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>>98048220
>TQ
The worst thing about this reveal is that it gives ammo to the slippery slope doomposting faggots
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>>98048822
Somehow I even slightly hate myself because I got really into 40k by watching TTS series I was in their place and I shouldn't judge. Hey at least I own some models.
Also It's lucky If an ethot Actually paints the models. Shit's fucked
https://www.youtube.com/@LittleDreeea/streams
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>>98049075
>Also I need stls of all the female primarchs based off those artworks for 40k games to see the patrons reactions.
Minigames_Miniatures on Cults3D has made some based on Ryuusei's art. Not sure if he has made models for all of them.
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/freya-russ-figurine
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>>98049345
It doesn't matter. What are you gonna do about it? Focus on things in life that you can affect.
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>>98049353
The HH skitarii would've been great for the stilt leg sniper guy, they're a fine height and they look good as fast attack infantry.
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>>98049324
I have a bf, skill issue
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>>98049377
Whoa let’s see some boobies
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>>98049240
>i can fix my schizo queen
But yes, I agree.
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>>98049371
Stoicism isn't enough. We need to actively gatekeep the hobby so it doesn't go the way dungeons and dragons did.
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>>98049382
>We need to [nebulous word that doesn't actually translate to any real action in favor of vague gesturing]
Get right on that!
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>>98049370
well his minis were on kemono since he has Patreon. Kemono is now broken...well shit do i have to search on niche russian sites with malware or be pic related on 3d printing general?
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>>98049194
Since it's thread appropriate.
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>>98049386
Stoicism isn't nebulous. The comment about only worrying about things you can control is textbook stoicism.
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>>98049366
I’m curious about using ai tools to have an anime girl avatar and make my voice sound female to grift lonely nerds now.
Might probably get busted and then doxxed or worst case scenario sued but you never know.
>>98049370
Thank you anon!
>>98049371
Well I can’t really change much like cure my autism defects so I think I’m screwed.
I can however change my computer operating system to windows to access vtuber software to grift 40k autists but I’m not sure if I have gotten used to the pain of Linux or not.
By chance has a mechanicus book made a Linux reference or joke?
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>>98049205
>I wouldn’t be surprised if iron autists now argue that if papa perts didn’t ditch the siege the traitors would have won.
HH has become like military armchair strategists arguing about the reserve regiments failing to sally forth, costing the battle of GradgradGrad
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S0rQaqyRkwc?feature=share
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>>98049382
>>98049386
I’ve seen talk about gatekeeping but really what is it without getting you banned from an lgs for being an asshole?
What is reasonable gatekeeping and what goes too far?

It just feels like losing precious izzat when shunning bright eyed curious and genuine newcomers.
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>>98049381
I refuse to believe the inhabitants of "The Rock" would make this deduction
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>>98049405
You got me anon.
A convenience store sells a “fashion dust mask” I bought one but I don’t know where it is right now.
Is that enough for plastic and resin dust?
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>>98049382
>so it doesn't go the way dungeons and dragons did.
You mean having a stable edition that lasts 12 years and counting? Sign me in.
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>>98049402
>gradgradgrad
I want a parody like the angry marines but a campaign like a parody imperial armour campaign where all participants are parodies of the most ludicrously overused homebrew cliches now. Something genuinely funny and worth archiving even on the 1d4chan successor sites.
I know that it would require a thread of its own and people understandably sick of excess 40k threads will ruin it.
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>>98049372
I'm sure anyone would be more thrilled to field them, indirectly easier to transport too. But man are they lanky bois.
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>>98049379
Bro, it's probably a gay dude. There are no girls on 4chan.
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>>98049418
Think about the worst 40k edition for 12 years. Still a good thing?
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>>98049064
M8, how are these rules "more streamlined" than bloody 6th ed?

6th ed: tank goes cruising speed straight into enemy. Enemy take leadership. If failed fall back 2d6. If passed may take a death or glory attack (elect one model to auto hit-- attack MUST destroy tank, if not model is slain).

I memorized all that shit because the f***ing rules made sense. Try memorizimg these shitty modern rules and you cant m8
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>>98049407
Gatekeeping in 40k would be a lot easier than with D&D because 40k costs a lot more money and time invested compared to D&D. If someone has bought built and painted even a 1500pts army they are probably invested and don't need to be iced out. In D&D some casual can just come to the table for free and shit up the game with their bad RPing and lack of understanding the games mechanics. If they don't put in the effort to learn the settings lore its obvious they are not that into it.
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>bought a bunch of shitty pen markers thinking I could do some painting with them
>They actually work and can do good stuff

Have you taken the cheap paint/marker pen-pill?
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>>98049268
>I know guys who just can't score them reliability
hey
me
youre talkin bout ME
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>>98049382
>We need to actively gatekeep the hobby
I hate to say it, but you cannot gatekeep an IP that is owned by a multi billion dollar corporation. Especially when it is as decentralized as 40k is.
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>>98049418
>stable edition for over a decade
Nta but
GW would never ever. Unless bought out.
I hope it is a Chinese or Russian company with tight contacts to their governments to see the internet fires burn.
>anyways
I think gw deliberately sabotages their rules writing teams to always make the next edition enticing.

Now in the future don’t play stupid as it validates that xitter discourse pic that gets thrown around every now and then and isn’t a good look.
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>>98048220
>So how do you feel about prepainted models?
Most of the fun in the hobby is the painting, if GW shifts to preprinted models I’ll probably move on to painting on paper
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>>98048981
>How many classic movies today were considered dogshit when they came out?

Considered dogshit by whom? Some retarded over opinionated critic, who knows fuck all about most things and even less about movies? A failed script writer angry that a movie he thinks is bad was made, while his shitty script was never optioned?

Take for example Freddy Got Fingered, which upon release was declared one of the worst movies of all time by almost every critic and won a slew of Golden Raspberries' because it was so bad. And yet, even back then, almost every guy I had knew had seen it and loved it. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone ask the question (or asked it myself) - "Daddy would you like some sausages?", I'd be richer then Soros. It was a movie made for teenage boys, that "sophisticated" adults turned their noses up at. It is the adults who said it was dogshit, and the now grown men who were boys when it was released who consider it a "classic".
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>>98049418
The worst edition. It has been made so casual and politically correct in the shitty new lore. Orcs don't even rape anymore, any depiction of real evil has left the fucking game.
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>>98049379
I'm gay
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>>98049445
People always talk about gatekeeping but I never see examples of it.
All I can picture is rudeness that leads to banning.
Do people at the lgs actually employ gatekeeping actions to curious newcomers?
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>>98049441
Can you post your marker pen """""""""""masterpiece"""""""""""""
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>>98049432
Is Girlyman the gayest Primarch? Look at that picture...
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>>98048822
>I wouldn’t be surprised if e-girls are already trying to appeal to 40k nerds to get some of their loaded pockets to be used on them instead.
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>>98049446
Russia is sanctioned from the UK entirely
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>>98049379
>>98049453
BRO I CALLED IT! >>98049426
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>>98049432
My favorite part is how that there's a lot of shared abilities or giant parts of them that are common, and they all have different names for them anyway. A lot of these and also different stratagems could just be general rules or basic wargear, or just exist because there's some other bullshit at work as well.
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>>98049454
On practical level testing the person's knowledge of the rules and settings and not playing with them if they're too casual is about the only way you can do it. I think a 40k army cost enough money and takes so long to paint means only true players are going to be involved. It is way easier for a newcomer to shit up a D&D group because it doesn't cost them anything to do it.
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>>98049456
No.
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>>98049453
then show butt or penor
or models if you want
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does anyone have the pdf for this book?
I own a physical copy of the one from 90s but not this version

is there a pdf in the OP?
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>>98049459
Might just be some pretty ladies into cosplay.
A big might at this point as social media has made it hard to tell these days.
I get nerd collectives include significant numbers of lonely autists but you’d think that some would realize that they’re being grifted by these women and would keep their money in their wallets but they don’t.
Why is this?
This has happened for a long time like as long as streamers existed and they’re looking at 40k fans like a gold mine.
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>>98049456
If you insist. Obviously I haven't used only pen markers, but they are good for doing panelling, shading, highlighting and doing weathering such as rust and oxidation (brown/orange/blue markers) and are typically better at blending without risking visible tears.
Another example is using purple/pinks to make flesh look very good. There are some 'proper' markets there, but any cheap shit you find in the kiddie art section will do the job.
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>>98049488
correction

is THIS VERSION in the OP? the gofile link is giving me a "high traffic sorry!" message so I can't verify
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Are mortars any good on the table? Starting an IG force once the vostroyan MTO goes online
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>>98049508
most indirect is pretty mid, but 11th might change that.
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>That one mini in the squad that you don't really like the sculpt, has seemingly endless details, and you just want to be done with but takes forever

Name them.
For me, it was this guy.
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>>98049508
I think in 11th they'll start to be a menace for their points because you can naturally get +1 to hit on them from being on top of a ruin, negating any cover bonuses
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>>98049488
Question: What type of terrain do you guys use? At the club I played at before I moved we had a desert town table (4×6) and a jungle table (4×4). We have a lot of terrain some of it was GW made and some of it was scratch built.
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>>98049508
not really they were good earlier because they were so cheap but now they are kinda pricey then some detachments gave them a boost but they've been nerfing indirect all edition
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>>98049524
i'm gonna be building a 6x4 board using an old realm of battle board, some desrt rocks and necron themed ruins (DoW buildings+scrap monoliths, maybe some other pieces)
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>>98049448
>Considered dogshit by whom?
Critics and audience.
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>>98049524
Using GW's buildings as a template of scaling measurements I created half a dozen city ruins out of foam board. I also use ceramic mushrooms nicknacks to orkify the board.
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>>98049488
Rutracker is your best friend, comrade
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>>98049064
Cool, death or glory is back on the menu.
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>>98049064
What the fuck? I'm never paying 1 cp for this unless it's a last ditch option.
Did they strap hazardous on grenades too?
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Vostroya!
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>>98049341
I find it weird that Calli was the Holomem to try painting. Would have thought Biboo would give it a shot because Dante.
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>>98049009
Obligatory +3 detection range detachment.
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I wish that the Dark Angels were secretly on the side of Chaos with the Fallen being the loyalists it would have been cool
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>>98049571
>Things that change detection range will be relatively rare
Lied GW lyingly
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>>98049564
Made for big oseledets cock
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>>98049425
Thankfully they don't look as silly as the sniper boy, but all he needs is their legs to look fine.
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wait whats all this about pre painted terrain? im out of the loop, someone update me here
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>>98048616
stealing that
>>98049518
cool space wolf, looks like he still turned out well though even if he was a pain, sometimes I get frustrated and just rush through the details.
so far only one that felt like a true chore to paint was the comms boy on the far left, but that’s mostly because I thought him not having an actual weapon was kind of dumb, so it soured my taste on him and it made painting all the random pieces of equipment extra tedious.
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>>98049576
after tenths "promises" can you really be all that fucking surprised?
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>>98049346
What, you mean generics? Cuz yeah 95% of them are just Bigger Stronger Regular Dude, that's how it works
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>>98049585
GW is going to be releasing prepainted terrain, done with some sort of ink
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>>98049594
where did they say this? i wanna see it
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>>98049600
it leaked and GW put out a youtube video about it, check warcom n shit
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>>98049459
Butterfly wings for fem Mort, cute

>>98049475
It's a real issue that they brought back USRs after dumping them for no reason (remember pretending they didn't know what "Feel No Pain" meant for all of 8th and 9th?) and then underusing them by having either the same effects reprinted over and over in full or worse, almost the same but subtly different in unintended ways.
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>>98049182
windriders get a strat for -1AP against targets, but I was using a couple war walkers with scattet lasers/bright lances to proc crystalline targetting which does the same thing but for all units shooting at what the war walkers hit. looking back I should've used spiraling evasion more liberally but this was the first time I ran a windrider host and routinely forgot about strategems because I suck.
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>>98048981
Postal? Rampage? Those were awesome and yet hated by reviewers
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>>98049630
Postal was such a fun movie.
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>>98049607
huh...

honestly, didnt expect it from them but is it weird to say i really dont give a shit until they sell prepainted miniatures? this is kind of nothing to me, maybe it'll keep depressing photos of unpainted terrain being used a little less common
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>>98049564
>>98049508
Too bad I don't want to sell my soul to have enough money to buy the MTO otherwise I'd get vostroyans
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>>98049650
>prepainted miniatures?
I think moving from a terrain set to pre-painting miniatures will be difficult.
Keep in mind, terrain pieces are usually large blocks with little detail. The 'technology' behind it might not have the detail required to do things like guns and so forth. It would also mean having to do it for hundreds of kits. This is a test case. If it sells well, there may be future kits of varying size and use.
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>>98049651
it's gonna hurt like a bitch but I can't skip another MTO
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>>98049664
thats my thought too but i see everyone else here addressing it so i figured i'd throw my two cents in


the other question is how much are they going to try to upcharge these for
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>>98049650
>>98049664
apparently they can do very fine detail, there is writing on screens on the new terrain for example. the issue is that because of the process things get a bit "fuzzy".

maybe they do it for models in the future but I kinda doubt it.
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>>98049671
I know what you mean, I'm still mad I skipped the last time they did MTO daemonettes
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>>98048848
She also fucking sucks, GW PLEASE LET HER BUFF TAKE EFFECT BEFORE HER UNIT ROLLS TO HIT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>>98049690
correct me if i'm wrong since im a zoomie zoomer, but isnt this also not the first time they've done this?



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