>>98038469
maybe he had a point

>>98056966
For a gangrel, perhaps.

>>98057017
The voice in my head demands I goon and post in equal measure.
>>98057032
I like this idea, like a Highschool DxD alternate reality.

Hedgefag, I love you, I always have!

Tell me about those infamous Tremere red glasses.
What kind of magic do they have?

What do you think as a concept: A mage who has been forcefully awakened, and heavily modified, so as to produce a maximum of quintessence?

Also, how much quintessence does one need to be able to do anything? I remember Nox from Wakfu, wanting to collect energy to go back 100 years into the past. He needed an astronomical amount of wakfu (living energy), and after eradicating a whole race from the planet, plus stealing the life force of a dragon and many people for a hundred years, he only had enough to go back 10 minutes. I’m thinking of making a villain like that.

>>98056901
>Has anyone ever had a friend/ally from a different splat?
I'm playing a Kitsune and have a changeling, a wraith, and a Garou as Contacts (though the Garou is at least the same system). The Garou finally got to meet the other PCs this evening.

Changing the Council of Nine to this:

Dissonance Society - Time
Mo-Tzu Fa - Mind
Hollow Ones - Prime
Psychopharmacopoeists - Life
Lifeweavers - Entropy
Kahin - Forces
Darwushim - Correspondence
BioMechanics - Matter
Sons of Tengri - Spirit

>>98057212
It's kinda meh. Like forced awakening means you're talking about a demon lord, or using the arch-sphere. In the first case, it probably doesn't have a good way to do that modification, and in the second they wouldn't have a whole lot of reason to go and awaken a person if what they wanted was something to rip up for quintessence. You generally don't need a lot to do stuff outside of making permanent things, healing agg, or mucking with stuff that's had Quint already put in it to make it harder to mess with. Of course, you want a good amount, because it can be used for all sorts of things, starting with making doing magic easier.

>>98056901
>Has anyone ever had a friend/ally from a different splat?
Player in a vamp chronicle I was in teamed up with a Beast for some shenanigans. That's about it.

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>>98056901
What clans would embrace a slutty gyaru girl who does compensated dating+sex who is also a medieval history enthusiast who collects and practices with swords?

>>98057790
Doesn't matter because your stupid fucking character gets staked and left out to burn halfway through session 1. Next time use more eyeshadow and listen to The Cure.

>>98057790
Mainly Toreador but I can see Ventrue, Ravnos and Nosferatu (because there is 100% a Nosferatu spiteful enough to give her the Cleopatra treatment and turn her ugly)

>>98057811
The Cure SUCKS, we Anarch Brujah now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccfbPQNMbg

>>98057811
If stupid characters were staked and left to burn, we wouldn't have most official characters.

(Also, a slutty gyaru is still less fetishistic than a decent chunk of characters, from shota Elders who simps for anarchs to animal fucker ghouls.

>>98057842
>If stupid characters were staked and left to burn, we wouldn't have most official characters.
valid, because Normal Bates is definitely my next Malk.

>>98057790
Daeva from Requiem, they're both a slutty and a combat clan.

At what point does sunlight become moonlight? Can a vampire survive reflected sunlight? Is the lunar rock filtering Christ's anger at Cain out of the light? Does the moon spirit just have a soft spot for vampires? If so, why do all her chud kids wanna kill vampires?

>>98056901
>TQ
All the time, it'd actually be hard to think of a time we didn't. Right now in our Changeling game we have a Mummy ally, our previous Hunter game almost went the full duration without a friendly supernatural but we met a chill Sin-Eater towards the end. There've been others, but in an old Vampire game I played in my Ventrue ended up the kinda caretaker of a Golem/Promethean, and also wound up dating a Sorcerer.

>>98057790
Make her an Assamite. Use her sex work as a cover for assassination jobs.

>>98058041
pretty sure there's a blurb somewhere saying direct exposure to moonlight makes vampires tan a bit

>>98058041
God said it needs to be sunlight directly from the sun and that's all you need to know.

>>98058041
When most people interpret it as the light of the moon, rather than the light of the sun. When most people look up and see a full moon, they think "wow, the moon is really bright tonight," not "wow, the moon is really reflecting a lot of the sun's light tonight." The light is associated with the moon in every way.

>>98058041
>sheeple still think the moon reflects sunlight
lmaoing hard keep believing what they tell you

>>98058041
The Moon reflecting sunlight is Technocracy paradigm, and the most vampires do not believe in this bullshit.

>>98058441
>>98058409
>>98058398
I fucking hate that this retarded Mage shit has infected Vampire to this degree. Moonlight should not be disqualified as sunlight just because of muh consensus. Moonlight should be just as detrimental to vampires as sunlight.

>>98058041
Revised acknowledges that it's sunlight, but says it's not strong enough to harm a vampire.

>>98058493
The reason sunlight hurts vampires isn't for scientific reasons, it's symbolic in nature. Hence why vampires could go to other solar systems and not get harmed by those suns.

>>98058525
Retarded mageshit.

>>98058540
It was angels that cursed him not mages
This "Akshually moonlight should hurt vampires because I'm a retarded gorilla nigger that can't understand fantasy" is one of the dumbest conversations that get brought up on this general. The whole line of vampires(which also can't exist because it's not possible to sustain oneself by blood, WOW!?!?!?!?!) started because God cursed Caine, is the moonlight not hurting vampires the only part that doesn't make sense

>>98058540
It's literally in the VTM origin story of Caine. He's not burning up in the sun because he has porphyria, it's because he's cursed by Raphael to flee from the light of God. Everyone else just inherited his blood and therefore his curse.

>>98058493
The curse on Caine's bloodline is clearly that you can't exist under the SUN, not a star, not sunlight, but rather that you cannot be in view of the sun

>>98058540
NTA, but anon, seriously, WoD does not have a united cosmology. Each line has metaphysics that apply to that book line alone.

98058540
Weak bait, try harder next time.

A vampire constantly creating new kin to experiment on. He wants to find out the Science behind the curse.
A Werewolf kills him and howls, knowing he'd never understand Luna's blessing.
A Mage hears this story and chuckles to herself, knowing it'd never understand The Consensus.
A Demon observes and chuckles to themself, knowing she'll never comprehend the god machine.

>>98058677
What do the Mummies, ghosts, and changelings do?

>>98058721
Changelings: the contract law that keeps mundane world together
Mummy & Ghost: I don't care

>>98058677
Based Dragon.

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>>98058677
The Willworker applauds the rape in antipathy towards Consensus, poser.

>>98058677
>Mixing WoD and CofD

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>>98059094

I'm quite new to WoD and maybe it's mentioned more in supplemental stuff but I'm surprised at how little the core rulebook makes of the double whammy that God is unquestionably real thanks to ancestry from Caine and that you are damned without of your action just for being Embraced.

>>98059186
It has lore but it's still a ttrpg, not like that part comes to play often, or at all

>>98059186
>you are damned independent of your action
Not necessarily true, a lot of the endings and the setting imply that God's nature is more aligned with forgiveness, and the only reason Kindred are damned for the Embrace is because they triple down on being paranoid evil retards instead of actually trying to be normal people. It's more so that the vampire is punished for Caine being a dick encouraging his children to be dicks which encourages you to be an unrepentant dick. A high humanity vampire probably doesn't even become a Wraith for instance and hell isn't real, mostly

>>98059186
They kind of handwave that sort of stuff by saying "um acktually it's an unreliable narrator and everyone is pushing their own agenda"

>>98059200
The only moral vampires are the ones that walk into the sun the next morning.

>>98059184
Kill yourself, nigger.

>>98059212
idk via vindicta seems pretty cool

>>98059212
Funny enough this is something mostly done by Nosferatu IIRC, and also maybe Gnawed Malks?

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>>98059186
>>98059209
>enter into setting of gothic horror
>demand explicit scientific specificity and apply it absolutely inappropriately
>surprised when wonder is killed like a back alley abortion

>>98059229
I don't want a play by play scientific explanation or a stat sheet on how many sins just existing is. I'm just surprised that something that would be a fairly universal experience among kindred is given such little official attention.

>>98059186
It's because none of that is real and you fell for spooks. Vampires are incapable of peeling back the veil and understanding what is actually going on in the world of darkness. The mark of Caine is only useful in letting others know to shun you for your blindness and foolery.

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>>98059238
>universal experience
Because YOU have so much angst from being Adam's great grandchild and suffering the Curse of Adam

>>98059248
I think you are just being mean for no good reason.

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>>98059212
Approved by God himself

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>>98059257
Maybe I am.
But uh, so what?

>>98058041
Isn't there a bloodline in requiem that burns during full moons?

>>98059277
>replying to a niggerlicious tertiary post with yiddish in it
Damn, you need to kill yourself

>A Perfect World
>This manifestation of Presence is one of the most dangerous — not only to those affected, but also to the user herself. With it, she affects an exceptional number of people, either a huge city or an entire barony, forcing all to act toward making the area the perfect representation of the character’s dream. The only Cainite known to possess this power was the Toreador Michael, Patriarch of Constantinople, and it not only drove him mad but also indirectly led to the chaos, death and destruction that afflicted his city when the Fourth Crusade reached it.
>System: The exact effects of his power are best left up to the Storyteller. In general, all mortals and Cainites of sixth generation or higher work toward making the area correspond with the ideals of the user. Each month, the player rolls Charisma + Empathy (difficulty 7). If a character has a good reason not to work toward the user’s dream, her player may spend a point of Willpower and roll Willpower, difficulty 6. If she gains more successes than the user, she can act normally, but only for one night. The next night, the expenditure and roll must be repeated. Theoretically, this power can be turned off — but why?
>A Perfect World can also be used in torpor.
Okay, I can see why Michael was considered the strongest vampire in the world for a time because this is some fucking bullshit. And it doesn't even have a blood point cost. What even is Presence 10, just doing the same shit to a whole country?

>>98059309
>What even is [Discipline] 10
Plot device.

>>98058041
Maybe the vampire should try being nicer to her chud kids

>>98059309
Yeah going over 5 is dumb and just leads to vampires being mages. Don't even get me started on mage spheres over 5.

>>98059309
in general 10th dot stuff seems to be global: set uses what is assumed to be presence 10 to kill his entire clan by making them all suicidal during one gehenna scenario in another tremere's plan involves using blood sorcery to buff himself up again so he can use dominate 10 to order -everyone- else to step into sunlight, the eldest hijacks that plan to in turn hijack all flesh on the planet (beside the players who been in a protective ritual circle also made by tremere and saulot who shows up out of nowhere) and ennoia uses protean 10 to fuse with the entire planet

Does anyone have the book of courts for changeling: the lost?

>>98059339
And then there's Arikel who does sweet fuck all with it except run a shop somewhere on the the Mediterranean coast.

>>98059277
to be fair one thing that vtm and vtr have in common is that there are some really stupid bloodline weaknesses

>>98059358
>And then there's Arikel who does sweet fuck all with it except run a shop somewhere on the the Mediterranean coast.
never actually got a source for that

also she tricked Absimiliard into nuking Kupala with actual nukes in the novels pretty much just for shit and giggles

>>98059186
No, they are not automatically damned. What makes them damned is that the kindred society is evil and retarded that encourages its members to be evil and retarded, not the curse of Cain.

>>98059301
>Yiddish
Where?

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>>98059381
>baiting

>>98059374
>also she tricked Absimiliard into nuking Kupala with actual nukes in the novels pretty much just for shit and giggles
Okay but without context her going
>just nuke the demon bro
for trolling's sake sounds hilarious even though I'm sure it killed millions of people in the process.

>>98059381
Christ was named. He's canonically Jewish.

>jerk off before posting
Or
>Jerk off while posting
Hmmm

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>>98059394
Chud isn't Yiddish. It's an acronym for
>Cannibalistic
>Humanoid
>Underground
>Dweller

>>98059434
Before. Always approach the enemy with a clear mind and sharp wit. Would you also skip a meal before battle?

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>>98059434
Who the FUCK?

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>>98059434
I post while edging

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>>98059461

>>98059444
>>98059455
>>98059461
>>98059483
Hmmm. BSD mind break netorare corruption with a kinfolk PC who got kidnapped and corrupted by BSD shortly after marriage to a Garou

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>>98059522
Draw it otherwise you're a faggot poser pussy

>>98059229
This kills the Changeling.

>>98059532
My art skills are atrocious but I imagine metamorphosis just with more fur, tentacles, and murder

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>>98059550
So you ARE a faggot poser pussy, huh?

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>>98059532
Anthony is half Filip himself

>>98059186
>but I'm surprised at how little the core rulebook
Gotta sell splats thinblood.

>>98058192
Dosent the sluttyness clash with their very purity and superiority focused clan culture?

>>98059186
The whole Noddist 'ancestry from Caine' thing is treated as bogus by everyone except for knowledgeable elders and the Sabbat.

>>98059209
Especially G-d.

>>98059943
depends on the faction the whole purity thing is pretty much a bleed over from muslim thinking and the loyalist faction wants to purge that so that they can be completely ruthless blood cannibals again

and even then the signature character of the muslim faction of assamites is a lesbian assassin who's storyline ends with her managing it to convince haqim himself to spare her by telling him of her conviction and piousness because kekw whitewolf wtf

>>98059553
I suppose I am a poser, I'll learn to draw so that next year I can make a shitty weird porn comic about BSD corruption

>>98059340
Isn't it in the Mega?

>>98057790
Rapier-chan is best girl

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>>98060335
Thats not how you spell Evocatus-chan

>>98057790
Nosferatu and Samedi.

How blatanr do you get with public displays of power by one of tbe Greater powers (Like an elder vampire or an archmage or a great spirit of some kind)?
Specifically my concern is vampire. My idea is for a scenario where a methusaleh suspects he's going to get murdered by the sabbat and so decides he's either going to go down in one hell of a party or he will ascend as some sort of blood god.

>>98060043
Only the book of seemings was added to the STV mega. But I was already able to get it from the pdf thread

>>98060623
>elder vampire
It's the sort of bizarro shit that I don't think anyone would be left alive to record, and you'd have the technocracy AND the camarilla working overtime to make sure no footage exists
>Archmage
They can't exist on Earth anyway, but I imagine the technocracy puts a lot of work in to hide or subvert normies, maybe pretend it's AI or CGI footage for a new movie.
>Great spirit or something
I imagine between wolf-shit causing amnesia and the amount of murder involved there aren't going to be any survivors left alive.

Honestly, having your PC's coterie being the designated jannies for a methuselah chimp-out event would be a very good chronicle, you'd have to brown nose or intimidate a lot of journos, independent agents, go door to door. Would be interesting

>>98060628
Anything cool in that book?

>>98058503
IIRC even before revised there were occasional references in the stories to vampires getting moonburns.

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>>98056901
Following the attention Disco Elysium got last thread i wonder what splat would the 41st be if revachol was beholden to the world of darkness.

>>98056901
i had a ghost friend for like a year irl time before he turned batshit crazy one day and i had to burn his house down to get rid of him

>>98060758
I was just skimming through it for now, but there's a bunch a new courts, contracts and entitlements
If you wanna check it for yourself
gf /d/ E0XwZT

>>98060791
>41st
Hunters? IIRC they were just normal humans. Raphaël was the only one with (minor) supernatural powers.

>>98060791
They're just a police precinct, I doubt there's anything paranormal going on except for Harry's insight. Can hardly even say Kim does anything special enough to say

>>98060837
>Kim does anything special enough
God Himself helped with that shot, though.

>>98060849
Kim has True Faith, in Revochol

>>98058493
One the moon is far far weaker light wise
Two if God counted moonlight then Cain would of needed to be in 100% darkness all the time kinda defeating the
>Wander the earth
Punishment

>>98060791
Probably normies since they never showed any powers / don't give enough info to fit them into any splat. Signature characters like Harry, Kim, Sunday, etc. are a lot easier speculate about.

>>98060836
Detective Costeau did not have "minor" powers, he bloody teleported up a ladder!

>>98059186
Biggest mistake of new players is expecting the fledgling pipe worker who was turned yesterday to know everything supernatural on the planet

YOU don't know shit
SIRE doesn't know shit
ELDER thinks they know shit but doesn't
You'll be a lucky lick to find an Elder who can name four Werwolf tribes
>But calls the Wyrm a myth made up by dog men
Werewolfs think Vampires ugliness = power
Changlings believe all supernaturals are fae who have forgotten they are fae
Mages have millions of different answers to the supernatural worlds existence
Demons will rape your soul before you can find out what they know

If my players wanna play Pirate Age vampires should we do VTR or VTM

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In W20, what are the ways a human can become immune to delirium? My Fera's gotten close to a mortal, and I'm wondering if there's a way to smooth out the Delirium problem

>>98061014
>Biggest mistake of new players is expecting the fledgling pipe worker who was turned yesterday to know everything supernatural on the planet
Because any sense of mystique has been thoroughly mined by every other playbook defining every nook and cranny you could think of with the few "optimal" lore having fuck all to contest it.

>>98061047
Increasing their willpower to 7 or 8 is the only completely safe way (could rationalize it as them getting used to it, but would depend on how your ST wants to handle NPC progression probably). IIRC all the other ways are either wyrm tainted or have unpredictable side effects.

>>98061047
>what are the ways a human can become immune to delirium?
Kinfolk, willpower 10 and any supernatural tidbits depending on the version of the game. IIRC delirium varied if supernatural got immunity by default or if it was a separate power.

>>98061034
VtR had some scenarios for the golden age of piracy and easier rules to make pirates of the Caribbean if you use the ship rules from infinite macabre.

>>98061047
High willpower if you want them to be normal, kinfolk if you want them to be related in some way (they don't need to know it) or you could always pump them full of Magadon / DNA drugs (effects will be temporary)

>>98061047
Willpower 10, any numina above 3(or was it 3 and above?), drinking vampire blood, rare gift that can turn a human into a kinfolk, possession of any kind of spirit and exposure therapy

the last doesn't has rules it's just mentioned as something the leopolds do but hey it works for them

>>98061098
>rare gift that can turn a human into a kinfolk
Do you know the name of that Gift?
>any numina above 3(or was it 3 and above?)
You have my attention. Do you know where I can find this so I can read more?

>>98061070
Thank you friend. I was leaning towards vtr anyways theres too much lore autism in vtm

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>>98060799
It happens all the time.

>>98061014
>Werewolfs think Vampires ugliness = power
Given the Nosferatu...

>>98061014
that's why my favorite players legit do not read these books they know how to roll these dice and how to roleplay and that's pretty much it

they even ask me what powers they could buy when we decide to spend exp between chapters and i post them in the discord server

>>98061014
Unless you're the bad guys. Sabbat, BSDs, Unseelie Court, and Technocracy all know more and are more correct in their knowledge about other supers than their default protagonist faction counterparts.

>>98061113
VtM had a lot of stuff all over the place but Requiem does make the lore more manageable specially when talking Dark Eras/Ages because of the flexibility.

>>98061107
>Do you know the name of that Gift?
I think that's a Forsaken gift.

>>98061164
Being an asshole comes with many passive buffs in world of darkness even if you tend to eat shit in ToJ scenarios.

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>>98060836
>>98060837
>>98060999
Apologies i just tried calling Harrier the 41st since that's what Kim addresses him by on his in-game notes.
What i meant is what would exactly Harrier be given what we know of the specific flavor of pale-adjacent being he is (Magpie, not an innocence).
A part of me thinks the obvious that is some sort of mage but it could also be a type of changeling.
Either way the pale and other phenomena of revachol operate in such a way that its kinda hard to translate to WoD

>>98061266
Magpies aren't actually a thing, they're a bit made up by a guy who wasn't part of the studio IIRC.

>>98061269
How the fuck did you answer that quickly.
Hmm, i thought that stuff was from the book that was set on the same world but i guess its made up like you said.
Either way he is different from an innocence since that would entail a from beyond the pale intelligence to use him as a avatar to gain power and bring anachronistic knowledge akin to how christ was the embodiment of God on this world

>>98061266
>Either way the pale and other phenomena of revachol operate in such a way that its kinda hard to translate to WoD
Yeah, I think it would be better to just make him a minor template in the style of CofD's Hurt Locker.

Anyone know that one vampire character who iirc was embraced by an 'infamous tzimisce child abuser' I think the fluff blurb went?
I think it was in one of the historical and there was a toreodor iirc who later became enraptured by them.
I was telling some people I know about how weird and rather dark wod got sometimes and that character came up but I didn't remember the whole story or the name but I know it was pretty bad

>>98061295
>Yeah, I think it would be better to just make him a minor template in the style of CofD's Hurt Locker.
The thing is that cover a lot of bullshit so you are kind of talking carte blanche I'm terms of rules. I just don't remember enough about the setting to say if that makes sense.

>>98061286
>How the fuck did you answer that quickly.
I tabbed in at the right time and saw the magpie pic. Though even though I say magpies technically aren't a thing info flowing from the future to the past and giving people a really bad vibe is still a thing in DE even if they don't fall under that specific system.

>>98061266
Wouldn't Omen Sensitivity be a good basis to model some of Harry's abilities? Just change the fluff and some details.

re-watching supernatural there really are some early episodes that would make fun scenarios for a hunter game

like fbi plotline in the second season
2x12: you are stuck in a bank with a shapeshifting/ body stealing serial killer because a unrelated amateur hunter tried to kill it in broad daylight and now the bank is on lockdown the police is already outside and he didn't even get the monster!

going into 2x19: there is a ghost serial killer in a prison good thing that the fbi is looking for you because you killed a few people in a bank robbery gone wrong so getting in shouldn't be too hard...

i know people call h5 the supernatural game but i doubt the writers would have the balls for this given that they won't even let werewolves be terrorists

>>98061295
https://discoelysium.fandom.com/wiki/Pale
Looking at this shit it seems to be that the pale is a psychic contamination result of mankind akin to how banality manifests so it might be that Harry and other pale irradiated people of revachol (Joyce, the paledriver having flashbacks of other people, innocents) seem to share the same kind of preternatural knowledge of stuff with applications of that sort of psy powers on a subtle way.
One could even theorize that Harry's connection to the player and possible metagaming decisions are akin to what an innocence would do with future knowledge.
If anything he is somesort of anti-changeling if such a thing even exists.

>>98061343
>Wouldn't Omen Sensitivity be a good basis to model some of Harry's abilities?
You could do that but it does domino into a a whole other thing but that really overlaps with Exalted and honestly I don't know how to go about it in a more detailed manner.

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Frombros, don't forget to watch this new episode with your /tv/frens.

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Post some more ideas for the Fan Reboot of Darkness.

>>98061469
What's this series?

>>98061599
What gamelone and premise nigga?

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>>98061621
Amazing series of dark mysteries.

>>98061625
I don't speak Spanish. Please recalibrate your translator.

The age old question:
Are you a Charisma/Presence fan or a Manipulation guy?

>>98061763
>Social Nonsense
We blood magic

>>98061808
Tell me about your secondary attributes, nerd.

>>98061813
We use strength and blood magic in this chantry, I only need enough intelligence to not kill myself with it

>>98061817
Going for that high int, low wis zero cha grindset I see.

>>98061817
How many shitbulls do you have?

>>98061817
The House has fallen. Billions must die.

>>98061822
Socrates himself argued that men should experience the full glory of their body once in their unlife.
>>98061831
I don't use animalism.
>>98061840
Billions must experience True Death in order for the buff nerd to inherit the Earth!

>>98061763
Charisma/Presence are nice for keeping your nose reasonably clean but you're always gonna need to be able to lie at some point in your unlife so manipulation.
>>98061851
Socrates got to choke on poison as a reward for his bullshit.

>>98061859
You'll regret your twinkish demeanor when a nerd suplexes you through your glass penthouse

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>>98061808
>>98061817
Go away, Flex.

>Often considered the Progenitor’s flagship effort to maintain the integrity of the Technocratic Union, the biotech giant SanMondo had humble beginnings as a producer of pesticides. Dedicated work by Doctor Edgar Kingley, however, “tuned” the pesticides to attack anything but a given crop; this led to a massive increase in crop yield.
>The new pesticide also increased SanMondo’s stock value. The Syndicate stepped in to help manage the company’s finances, leading to a series of ruthless acquisitions and mergers. As SanMondo’s stature grew, New World Order operatives insinuated themselves into the company to manage its image and its relationship with governmental regulatory bodies. Inter-Convention work enabled SanMondo to begin patenting DNA sequences, which allowed greater control over the resulting crops, pesticides, and other products.
>Today, SanMondo generates an incredible amount of revenue while providing cheap food for the world. It consults on legislation in many different countries and sends experts to politicians and other influential figures to serve as technical advisors. The corporation is quickly becoming a pillar of the global economy and beacon of international cooperation. Within the confines of SanMondo, the Progenitors have successfully encouraged the New World Order and the Syndicate to cooperate peacefully and productively. If this model can be applied elsewhere — and nothing goes wrong at SanMondo — the future looks bright for the Union and the world.
It's honestly hilarious to see the Progenitors book holding up a thinly veiled reference to Monsanto as their golden child.

>>98061763
I'm leaving all that useless shit at 1. Give me Appearance or the free Willpower.

>>98061972
Post clan.

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>>98060628
My rape sense is tingling!

>>98058231
So a mirror or shade is fine, since the sun is out of line of sight?

>>98061599
>remove magic hiding forces, like Consensus and Mist
>no matter how hard you try to expose magic, some people simple refuse to learn the truth and actively choose ignorance. Yes, even your family, and friends, maybe even your partner.
>instead of fake and gay illuminati everyone wants to exist so their problems have an easy scapegoat, it's simply that people are much more willing to vote for vampire lich mages and pretend they are upstanding moral citizens so they can keep up their luxurious lives.

>>98061599
Shut down Wraith and Mummy. Let Vampire cannibalize them for parts.
Shut down Werewolf, let Changeling cannibalize it for parts.

>>98062241
>no matter how hard you try to expose magic, some people simple refuse to learn the truth and actively choose ignorance
That sounds like making people actual retards if there's no active Masquerade but that shit still isn't believed in.

>>98061599
Keep the organizations, but make them much more local. I don't want Camarilla all over the world. They can have Europe and a foothold in the New England area. Do it by continent, so Africa & Dixie, Asia & the PNW, S. America & California to Texas, and Natives of North America have have the bread basket. Borders are probably blurry in Texas and California, but that's fine.

>>98062254
The masquerade isn't magically enforced by the universe like Consensus. Vamps already get fire bombed by governments and the inquisition when they get too hot. Literally nothing would change for vamps. You ever play Vampyre? It'd be like that. "Oh, what a strange out break of... blood flu! It made people in Chicago maim and eat each other. Good thing they're all dead now!"

>>98062254
>sounds like making people actual retards
Someone on the "anyone who doesn't take the Red/Black Pill is an NPC" website doesn't get that sleepers are NPCs who refuse the pill.

>>98061922
Let's no pretend like the Progenitors ever concerned themselves with morality (it's NWO propaganda)

How do you hide evidence of being a diablerist? Asking for a friend.

>>98062532
I mean, if even the literal in-universe propaganda pieces can't help acknowledging that they're prone to going full Mengele they've gotta be hilariously awful once you stop glossing over the gory details. Especially since the book also feels like it's hinting that losing literally half their guys might have given them a chance to course correct but the underlying flaws like a particular hatred for traditions and their hilariously flexible moral codes are still there. All in all a fun read.
>>98062550
Try to find a good excuse to fuck off from any social gatherings for a year or two so the aura fades.

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>>98062550
-The aura shit is going away after one year. High level Obfuscate can probably hide it, as can some Thaumaturgy rituals. If those are not options, just "vanish" for one year and make up a very good excuse.
-Tremerechads can still detect diablery after that, so better be on good terms with them.