/hhg/ editionPrevious Heresy: >>98042971>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/qdYzem>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread Question:Do you think we will get plastic Heresy models for the Primarchs? Do you even want them?
>zero postsHorus Heresy is dead.
>>98063343/hhg/ is deadconsider this mercy
>>98063010>Do you even want them?No, the current models are fine and primarchs are for fags anyways. As are special characters in general.
>>98063010>TQ No, because then you just get more retardation like 30k daemon angron and 40k fulgrim where either their bosses or their arrogance won't let them reuse the same art as baseline that other models have already used so they have to make their own design to justify a new version, which always looks like shit and for some reason in both cases makes them look like trannies.
>>98063343WE DID IT THE IMPERIUM IS SAVED
You there, post models right NOW
>>98063536For a hero of the imperium such as yourself? Of course night lord Sama
>>98063624Sorry for ant pic
>>98063651drill your barrels. please.
>>98063536My most recently finished stuff ignore the drop of paint water on that one plasma gun i was retarded and had a spill, fixed it later
>>98063694
>>98063536I fucked up the primer on the vexilla-axe so I gotta reprime it
>>98061590>>98061629thanks, here's an additional closeup of some of the dudes that got their horns clipped. pretty satisfied with how they all have turned out so far.
>>98063536I'm working on something deliciously heretical for my Alpha Legion
>>98063752*Blocks your path*
>>98063752the idea of reward of treachery dreads, let alone a mhara gal, is hilarious. This goes beyond even gal vorvbak (somerthing something they got into a cult and did a ritual), you have to have been such a long term operative that you get interred into a dread and THEN possessed, and then go back to the AL
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cbleac3a/sunday-preview-mighty-war-machines-in-the-age-of-darkness/Spartan and Falchion tanks next week.
>>98063784Iirc old emails to forge world about AL Gal Vorbak confirmed that some of the original dudes sent in with Argel Tal that ended up become gal vorbak were AL infiltrators.For stuff like this or other basically impossible infiltrations like knight cenobium though I always just assumed AL would steal the tech necessary to make the machine /armor/weaponry and make a recreation of the actual unit instead of somehow infiltrating a dreadnought into the word bearers possession for them to invite a demon into.
>>98063784It's even worse, the mhara gal are gal vorbak who got fucked up enough to get stuffed in the dreadnought. The reason they had an anti-chaos aura in previous editions was the gods were pissed at them for their failure and denying their soul to the gods so they've got a constant area of lowtiergodding around them from their displeasure.
>>98063741>Ensing! You lost the banner!>Nossir, it's right here>It is gone!>Cloth burns, you know?
>>98063832Mega ass ZzzWe weep, for the newcomers are too young to even remember the promises that were lost with His death...
>>98063890For me, it is the Leviathan FOC
>>98063536DG cohort I did a while ago. I really need to start working on something again but burnout is a bitch and a half.
>>98063921Relics of a lost time
>>98063974>Fully-equipped sergeant, despite 3.0's nerfsBased and endurancepilled. Can bayonets really be used effectively on weapons with no buttstock?
>>98063832>still didnt fix the boltersFuck off GW
>>98064036it's the same sprue lil bro
Would it clash with the lore if I started making my traitor legions look a little bit more chaosy with chaos space marine parts?
>>98064116Do traitors who took the side of chaos are on the slippery slope that makes them look like chaos space marines? My hot take is:1. Yes2. It's your minis. Make them look cool and screw the others2.1. Winner tops3. Black books justify all. The Emperor's Children were the quickest (as always) to change, but were not the only ones.
>>98063832>FalchionFUCK YES, FINALLY JAMES YOU FUCKING FAGGOT CUNT!!!Gonna have fun turning one into an Ascalon, already have a recast warhound flamer on deck for it and everything.
>>98063832>and still no whirlwind
>>98063840>other basically impossible infiltrations like knight cenobiumInfiltrating the autistic DA secret societies actually sounds "rather doable" precisely because its a clusterfuck of secret orders and conspiracies that someone minded to think in those terms would be both familiar with and able to use to their advantage. Theres a lot more room to hide the fact that youre an AL infiltrator when everyone is hiding stuff.
>>98064222Three years in and still no SA baneblade nor shadowsword.
>>98063832where my whirlwinds at?james, where they at?
>>98064116No. Personally I think you shouldnt go too far, that just flat out using chaos marines is both lazy and boring and "not super accurate" because even if they go "somewhat chaos" theyre not full chaos (yet) and shouldnt look like what 41st millenium chaos marines look like. But using chaos parts is totally supported, even before the siege the chaos legions started degenerating in various ways and varioys elements of chaos iconography, mutation, skulls and trophies or whatever else started creeping in.
>>98064174>turning a unit you'd never use into a cooler unit you can't useBased
>>98064306>useYeah, nah, I dont play the game, im a straight up lore/build/convert and collectfag.
>>98063536
>>98063684they're like that to match the land raider doors
>>98063984can't believe you guys were crying about word salad rules at the top of this edition but you're giving>In contrary to the usual rules of Warhammer 40,000, this Leviathan is both your force's Warlord effectively (and uses its own special Warlord trait listed here) and is also a scoring unit.a pass
>>98064474drill your doors then
>>98064502What's so hard to understand about it? "In contrary to the usual rules, the leviathan unit is also your warlord and scores".Well yeah? It would be stupid to bring a Titan then also be forced to bring one Axiarch Scutarii HQ and two Scutarii Troops to make the list legal, wouldn't it?Sometimes all you want to do is to field a titan and roll dice
>98064502Trying too hard.
>>98064116What legion?>>98064268Depends, EC went full chaos pretty quickly.
>>98064570Even their "full chaos" shouldnt yet be the 41st millenium chaos (which is largely mutated mk7 for example). You would have "chaos fucked" mk4/3/6/5/whatever
>>98063536Gun clanners tarantulas/spearhead sentry guns.
>>98064538it's a weird construction
>>98064538Nothing, he's just stirring shit up for the sake of it. He did it last thread too.
>>98063536Now I need to paint the next one
>>98064596>Even their "full chaos" shouldnt yet be the 41st millenium chaos41st millenium noise marines wish they were anything what the original Kakophoni got going. YOU CAN WITNESS THE MARAVIGLIA ONLY ONCE
>>98064638It is a weird instance, after all. Like when using the old Armoured RoW with the Tank Warlord. How you gonna choose a RoW without a Praetor? Yeah "never mind that, you just can pick the RoW first, we take care of that as we go"
>>98064732And thats fine. You can have weird OTT chaos designs, they just shouldnt be "just 40k chaos designs"
>>98063993we go for shit that looks cool in this house, including the worse than useless bayonets.Thinking back to the basic bayonet course I had as a Marine I think it'd probably still be pretty easy for an Astartes to grip it forward and just use it as an easily accessed combat blade.
>>98064116EC were skinning and wearing people at Istvaan V, by siege of terra they'd be unrecognisable
>>98063832>still no whirlwindJAAAAAAAMES
Do Word Bearers not have their own Cataphractii Terminators?
>>98065144no they rent them from the Raven Guard like everybody else without a personality
>>98064570>What legionWord bearers probably. Or sons of Horus
>>98064311I already said based, you know
Mashing HH bits onto 40k Possessed and shaving some of the excessive trim seems to yield pretty decent results for Gal Vorbak.
I wish the Armistos had officer of the line 1. It'd give it a reason to exist without stealing thunder from Centurions.
>>98065144Until the phraetus, word bearers were the only legion with no legion terminators, not even in exemplary battles. The gal vorbak were supposed to be our replacement, but their specialness has been diffused as other terminators have gotten tougher
>>98065518Officer of the line 1 literally does nothing anon. It would allow armistos to unlock one detachment, which command units do by default.
>>98065518He simply needs his own detachment. Something like "devastation cadre - 4 support slots, can only take heavy support squads"
>>98065607This.
>>98065493That is breddy gudd
https://gofile.io/d/MKRvUWDamn, unless this isn't complete not even the liber gave the sisters their units back.
>>98065661Custodes didn't get axes, fists, or dual swords back. What made you think you were going to get shit for sisters?
>>98065676The fact that they had 3 unnamed units. I would have expected a 4th or even a 5th.
>>98065661Finally a Liber Custodeez scan! Much thanks anon.
>>98065654Yeah, I might have to steal the idea, assuming nu-possessed don’t absolutely dwarf the recast GVs I just ordered from Mr. Chang.
>>98065493The 40k CSM shoulder pads still ruin it. Replace those and it would have been... acceptable.
>>98065676Truely the cuckstodes
>>98065661What do you actually give a prime dreadnought besides logistics for an additional dreadnought?
>>98065752They don't, they're basically same size but have bigger shoulder pads and backpacks
>>98065676They lost their solarite gauntlets?
in what fucking world was this necessary?
>>98065948Aquilon still have them, but characters, sentinel guard, don't, and hetaeron aren't a unit anymore.Also lost the option for power weapon + vexilla, but I didn't remember that option to begin with.
>>98065989Gotta sell the book somehow. Although out of everything custodes got "ways to punch tanks to death" is actually something they both needed and not offensively OP.
>>98065989No.
>>98065989It's kinda pointless on the s7 flamer but it's ~11% more damage vs av14 rear, ~17% on av13 rear for the venetari mines.
>>98066023I mean last edition they all just had meltabombs hidden in their rectum.
>>98065947Thanks, anon. I’ll probably just give them some Mk IV pauldrons and packs.
>>98063784>you have to have been such a long term operative that you get interred into a dread and THEN possessed, and then go back to the ALJust as planned
>>98066080As an oops-all-meltabombs units abuser, a full army of infantry units that can destroy super-heavies in one round of melee would have been too broken.
>>98066080Thats basically what the neutronium mine is, a meltabomb with deflagrate.
>>98066115Last edition I think all infantry got it by default. Now it's just venetari and 10ppm.
when's the Mk4 and 5 refresh
>>98066102Thallax say hi
>>98066192Exactly lmao
>>980661852.0 was Summer 2022 and MKIII was Autumn 2023 so maybe we get one of them this autumn.MKIV would be a really safe bet for the 4.0 starter box though so I wouldn't be surprised if we have to wait until 2028 for that
Just finished our 4k, will have a batrep + photo dump ready soon if anyone is interested.
>>98066308Fuck yeah, more AL kino
I've been mulling around the idea of getting into Legions Imperialis and I see they have Mechanicus now, which is exciting, but I'm curious about a few things.Were Forgeworlds still around in the HH era, in a similar way as they are in 40k? I feel like I read something about this in the codex or something at some point, but I've forgotten it. I don't really want to paint all these guys Martian red, and I kind of want to do a HH era different colorscheme for my dudes so I want to know how easy that is to do narratively speaking.
>>98066338All the main Forgeworlds pre-date the Imperium.
>>98065989it's Deflagrate for Vehiclesthe weapons that have it don't even have Deflagrate, what's the problem
>>98066338The biggest difference between 30k mechanicum and 40k admech in terms of forge worlds is skitarii were a mars led thing. The forces you see for mechanicum in heresy are like the feudal levies of an Archmagos. So not only can you paint your guys however you want, but even within each FW would an archmagos have differing schemes
are terran traitor/blackshield raven guard overdone? I just really like deliverers
>>98066356I'm actually more ticked off over the idiotic wall of text over describing what's a really simple ability rather than the just sort of basic ability, but I wasn't specific enough.
>>98066308>shh, we're going kwatos hunting
>>98065853Combat Veterans, you're getting redundant Ld unless you go up against a lot of Fear (X) or Titan Honk Honk (X), but your Cl goes up to 11 so you pass 35/36 of your Cool Checks instead of 11/12 (33/36, 92% instead of 97%) since they can only be Routed by Panic (X) now (and will be passing the very few Ld checks they take for Routed 35/36 anyway, probably long before they get in stab range), it's that much simpler to shake off Statuses with Combat Veterans and keep shooting and stamping your way to victory
>>98066308That's an actually cool pic.
>>98066308Lovely pic. Both models are probably thinking the same thing "that dumb fuck around the corner wont know what hit them"
Mission: three objectives worth 3 along the center line, two obj worth 1 in each deployment zone. Those objectives are worth 4 to the opposing player. The usual secondaries.4000 pts with LoW (and no named characters)I posted a pic of my list a few games back. Here is my DG opponents army.
>>98066561Got second and couldn't seize the initiative. Deployed a bit stupidly but it led to cool matchups so it worked out.
>>98066561gorgeous
>>98066578TURN 1:The Deaths Guard rolls up in a massive wave of armor, disgorging a veteran missile launcher squad onto the closest objective and nuking the AL seekers in the tower and killing most of the headhunter squad (though the return fire of the Headhunters reaped a bloody toll)
>>98066603My subhuman Kratos commander once again fails me, getting oneshot by the enemy Kratos in the very first shooting attack of the game.
The remaining headhunter stays strong, acting as distraction while my Domitar runs up the flank.
>>98066185I'm guessing one or the other will be announced with two other odd models or some shit as part of a battle group in the next reveal or some shit. The other armies already got their release waves and will probably be good for a while yet.
>>98066613We end the turn with my Domitar absolutely annihilating what was left of the missile squad and my tacs pushing forward onto the objective while taking potshots at the falchion.
>>98066613What a champ
>>98066622>Beep Boop motherfucker
>>98066622TURN 2:The real brutal part of the battle starts (despite the fact we lost 700pts each during turn 1).My headhunter pops out and does a cool 6 damage to the Kratos before eating 4 lascannon blasts to the forehead.
>>98066633Extremely cool guy
>>98066633what kit is that melta from?
>>98066633The power of the singularity cannon makes itself known. The atrapos Crits a Praetorian jumps squad, instantly pasting 6 of the DG elite.
SO last thread I asked for any advice in starting mechanicum, I just noticed something... are the new skitarii and mechanicum two separate factions? If so, what book are the new skitarii goobers in? probably will stick to regular mechanicum as it fits the fluff I've written for my dudes better but I'm curious
>>98066646you keep getting off these fucking cool shots is that just a phone camera?
>>98066646The beastly Kratos keeps harassing the Eastern flank, annihilating a rhino in a hilarious display of overkill.
>>98066651Turn 2 ends with my Vindicator absolutely molesting some tacs>>98066643From the old FW multimelta kit>>98066650Thank you anon, just using my old Samsung Galaxy, the camera is nuts
anyone got pictures of some of the new skitarii painted? either your own models or ones you've seenI feel like I havent really seen any at all.
>>98066660TURN 3:A slaughter, we both lose our superheavies. The falchion rips through the atrapos shielding like ramiel destroying the mountain in Evangelion but gets torn apart by the mhara ghal(Sorry for the blurry pic), the dice were crazy.
>>98066676"You're a big guy" "for you"My thallax jump out and start reaping heads, killing some elite infantry and closing in with the enemy land raider
>>98066685My forge lord and a squad of tacs went for 6 goddamn rounds of combat vs a squad of grave wardens an a champion. The forge lord swiped the champions head clean off and the tacs managed to actually beat one of the wardens to death with their fists
>>98066649The long-legged Skitarii got their rules in a softcover book.
>>98066691Start of turn 4: My delegatus and his tac squad kill some induction that had dropped onto the east objective turn 3, leaving just the delegatus alive. The Kratos corners him in a ruined building, unloading everything. The delegatus fucking survived , deflecting both melta blasts off his 5++ and no selling the lascannons.
>>98066698What remains of my thallax jump back to support the delegatus and manage to kill the rampaging Kratos with their two melta bombs
>>98066703The game ends with my thanatar doming his saturnine and my Vindicator finishing off his land raider.
>>98066696Gotcha thanks
>>98066716WRAP UP: from a gameplay perspective, we were using a few home rules (different WS chart, limit on line scoring per turn, our own terrain rules) and they made the game feel a lot better. The ws change in particular makes ws 4 units a lot less completely dogshit in that a ws4 unit will hit ws5 on 4+ while still being hit back on 3+. We were using a mission from the Istvaan community missions using our own terrain setup and I think it was decently, balanced, final score was 39-34 AL win.Melta Kratos is incredibly powerful, to the surprise of no one. I was pleasantly surprised with the performance of our LoW, they felt evenly matched.Now post your models anon, I've shit up this general long enough.
>>98066747Sorry, final pic of a mortus poisoner aurfarming before my headhunter perform cranial surgery.Thank you for your time anons
>>98066747Thanks for the batrep, dude! Great pictures and it looks like you had a fun time!
>>98066756Good job, Anon.Here's a picture of a model.
>>98064596I agree, and I never said using mk7.
>>98064732Pink eewwy gooey bubble gum scheme
>>98065198Both were pretty corrupt by the seige of Terra, the WB especially.
>>98065493>mk6 with mkII head and backpack
>>98066362No and who cares if they are, do them if you like it have fun.
>>98066756How are headhunters in your experience? Mine never accomplish anything, but that could be my dogshit dice rolls.
>>98066865What's the issue?
>>98066881Headhunters are super fun, I usually just get the multi melta and melta bombs. It's expensive but enemies tend to really fixate on them and direct disproportionate firepower on them.And if they don't, their tanks and characters are eating shit They're definitely mediocre but they're so much fun to run.
>>98066865It's called scavenged liberal
>>98066953>MeltabombsNo combi-meltas? Interesting, it is cheaper on points. Might give that a try, thanks.
>>98066975I'll sometime splurge on combi-weapons but the price is ridiculous. Honestly combis should be free considering you're already paying for the combi banestrikes
>>98066998Freedom ain't free it is paid with the blood of loyal servants of the Emperor brother, paying for combi weapons is a small price in return. Do not go full chaos commie, the price you end up paying in the end is much more. Your very soul.
How did Mortarion and Perturabo get along? I could imagine they did well but also that Mortarion got a stroke while listening to Pertu cry about how hard he had it while Morty had to do the same things while also marching through shit.
How many more years do you guys think HH has before it's canned?
>>98067379in Morty's primarch book, when he meets Horus and Sanguinius in order to explain why he murderfucked some planet, he thinks to himself>damn, I wish it was Perturabo instead of Sanguinius, he would back me up
>>98067455What a dumb fucking question. Are you some inbred retard who wandered over from /40kg/? Get the fuck back in your containment thread.
>>98067455>>98067539It already has been, the books are being written by the AI and judging by the quad heavy bolter sponsons, so are the models too. Prepare to enter the hallucinations of an abominable intelligence nigga
>>98066673It seems to me they weren't that popular.People wanted Skitarii not these weird stilt-guys. Imho they look bad, like the worst parts of the 40k mech lineup with weird disheveled messy tattered clothing.I think that's why nobody wants them.
>>98067455>>98067547You asked this question already last thread catalognigger.Stop samefagging fuck off back to the catalogue and leave us be.
>>98067455negative eighteen
>>98067455it really depends on the success of 40k, if it does well enough the company is more than happy to ship one flagship product at the expense of other ranges, and it's 'ranges' they have a problem with in terms of taking shelf space, storage, production time etc. I suspect they probably won't lavish the same attention that it got during the 2.0 launch especially as the main plastics are now covered and we'll maybe get two plastic legion specifics every third quarter like the Necromunda schedule. The big rival now is probably old world and if they can shift enough of it then they'll want to expand factions and catalogues which all eats into heresy space.
>>98066865Thw war was brutal, the supply chains brojek, you need to loot what you can. I recently bought a SoH painted Fellblade which I will paint as a looted Bight Lords zank. I will use masking liquid in order to get a nice effect of the NL colors being painted over SoH. In order to thank the former owners of the tank there will be a series of impaled marines and trophies.
>>98063536Only because you're a Sworn Brother on the ally chart
>>98067640>Bight Lords zank
>>98063536see you on the sands
>>9806745540
>>98063536Is a pic of a multiplayer battle acceptable?
>>98063536Both still need some weathering
A BOX
>>98067940It's.... glorious.
>>98067940Is that printed or a recast?
>>98067989That's gotta be a recast. There's a mould slip on the lens above the plasma cannon.
>>98067989Recast.The boxnaught is 10/10 but the FW arms are gonna need some touch ups.Really like how the FW arms fit on the old boxnaught though - the shoulders & melee weapon arms are significantly smaller but the plasma cannon is massive so it really looks the part as a gun platform.
Anyone gotten a hold of the SA chud ogres yet?I want to see what the sprue and kit is like.
>>98068188Google it and there's at least 2 blogs showing the sprues off
Cutting up the heavy flamer to stick on the hull surprisingly smooth
>>98068218is this a print or resin?
Bros how can one man be so based, I will do a mass infantry Fangs army one day..
>>98068218>>98068005>>98067940I need to find a good source for the box recasts....I built so many box-noughts back in the day, I want to build some heresy themed ones now...
Speaking of boxdreads. What are you supposed to do for dreadnought left arm weapons? I can only find right arm plasma cannons.
>>98068664I have like 20 different recast sites, if you look on ALL of them, youll find MOST of the old FW weapons, though some you can only find one of and I SWEAR they used to have both a right and left versions for every single weapon back in the day, in both mk iv AND mk V
>>98068664Convert, recast, and/or print
>>98068705>convertHOW. Its not like its the contemptor where you can just turn some bits around and bam "left arm". >recastYea, thats the issue, not seeing them.
>>98068538Recast from taobao>>98068664Probably need to print for certain weapons.You can find autocannons & Lascannons for either arm but plasma and melta are only ever right arms.Also for some reason I can never find a recast for the generic MIV Dread - only legion specific ones.
>>98068574>I will not kneel>knelt when the Emperor had the thunder warriors butchered>ran away when Angron joined the legion rather than help prevent the nails being implanted across the legion>knelt to Malcador when the loyalist WE got massacred on Istvaan III>jobbed to the king of jobbers Abaddon
Is this how terrain works in this game?
Ignore the primaris marines, but does this print quality look okay to buy? Im considering getting a shadowsword and this one is selling for cheap.
>>98068774>Also for some reason I can never find a recast for the generic MIV DreadThe ironclad?
>>98068813how much?
>>98068801"yes". Terrain is a bit abstract. There is both TLOS (in that if you can physically hide behind a thing and cant be seen, you cant be shot), but also theres the whole "you can only see 3" through medium terrain" thing. So even if you can potentially literally see through say a ruin or forest or whatever? You are assumed to not be able to (because the ruin or forest isnt LITERALLY that shape/small/sparse, its more a representation of "there is ruins and smoke and debris here" which in the "real battlefield" translates to you only being able to see so far into it).So in your example? If its just a wall I can see the dreadnought just fine and it doesent even get a cover save (not that it would benefit from one). If its standing with 3" or more of medium terrain between it and me? I cant see it, because I am assumed to not be looking at just a wall but a whole field of heavy rubble (maybe with smoke and dust and fire and whatever else also in the way). >>98068831£38, £40 with shipping. Gun can be swapped out. Sponson guns are "flat" but you can apparently not attach the sponsons.
I'll do the banner later
>>98068843not a bad proce then id say, but id greebly the shit out of it before painting, otherwise thats a LOT of boring flat surface....
>>98068849>otherwise thats a LOT of boring flat surface..I mean, its a baneblade. Thats kind of given right? But im thinking id want to add that whole "cloth covering" camo thing to it, I like the idea of the shadowsword as an ambus gun (mostly getting one to kill peoples fuckhead superheavies and spartans and shit)>>98068847What do you have against Goo?
>>98068843Man if tanks were actualy 40$ and this quality here. I would definitly buy more vehicles. buying a rhino and a predator in a span of 9 months does not make me feel good. That is why I like infantry boxes, at least I have stuff to build and paint.
>>98068870Bongbux are a bit more than dollars, its like $50 or something iirc
>>98068708>HOW.Anon, people were slamming spare guard bits onto boxes to make rifleman dreads. If you can't imagine then why are you in this hobby?
>>98068870>>98068849Well, bought it. Should be here by the weeks end. If its bad im going to hold you mentally accountable and seethe impotently.
>>98068801Not if it's a terrain feature, building, or light area terrain, yes if you're firing through medium or heavy area terrain
>>98068787>jobbed to the king of jobbers AbaddonI think you'll find Endryd Haar is the reason Abaddon has got no arms
>>98069043Thats Eldrad.
>>98068863FUCK goo
>>98068847Lovely bird skull on top very blACKshield
>>98068958You mean the IG autocannons?
>>98069043You got the wrong guy, Endryd Haar was slain by Abaddon alongside Bel Sepatus after they both came in to save Garro when Abaddon was kicking the latter's ass. That being said, Endryd's dead body almost gave Garro Abaddon's head.
>>98069121In Saturnine
>>98069106gonetoground2.blogspot.com/2010/10/diy-twin-linked-autocannon-arms-for.html
>>98069144Cheers, I want to do this sadly I lack one autocannon.
>>98063536Nice axe there friend.
Thoughts on this repose>>98068817Nah, I can find the Ironclad, but can't find the generic 40k one that isn't tied to any chapter
This maybe a stupid question, but after buying the ventari box there seem to not be enough bodies to build both the pistol+shield and lance guys. Is that like intentional or did I get a box with not enough parts? It feels kind of as strange for a box of 6 dudes to cost as much as a box of 20 dudes, with no left over options.
>>98069260Looks great.
It's crazy how much better HH is compared to 40k
>>98069485Its really not when you realize that the only reason HH 3.0 is better then 40k, is that 40k is such dog shit at the moment. 3.0 HH is IGHT, its got some issue, but over all its an OK game.
>>98068972Dude, you could EASILLY sell it on ebay for double what you paid if you dont like it, its not that hard really, like 90% of the "forge world" shit on there right now is recasts (except all the shit ive been selling, I have a vaults worth of OG shit from back in the early 2010s that has been in storage in a nurgle den for the last close to 20 years).
>>98069659I would feel bad doing that.
>>98069748You just sau straight up that its a recast. Not ALL of them are trying to pass it off as real FW stuff. Usually you can tell by the price, if someones selling a leman russ atlas kit for $50, you know its a recast, if theyre selling them for like $300+ and they dont come with the bag/instructions and the resin is very white looking or brittle as shit, then you know theyre a scammer.
>>98068847There we go
>>98070011Chuuni maxxed marine right there
>>98069049>Drach'nyen almost got Abaddon killed and Tzeentch had to teleport Abby away to stop something from happening.
>>98070011Incredible
>>98070011https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
>>98070011Why does he have two flags.
>>98070270Twice the morale.
>>98070093>Mongol style double flag back banner.
>>98070270Three :(
>>98070270One is an axe
>>98070270>>98070410Why does he have only three flags?
>>98070524:(
I am looking at the Spartan Prometheus "new" kit and how is the math between the laser array and laser destroyers?
>>98070614Mediocre.
>>98070614Literally never take the array. The destroyer has higher strength, the same damage because you're always getting Heavy, and the lower range never matters because it's still 3 feet.
>>98070805>The destroyer has higher strength, the same damage because you're always getting HeavyNot on a spartan you arent.
>>98070841Nvm I'm retarded, one of my usual opponents always runs his spartan as though it had stable so I had never checked to see if it had it lmfaoThank you anon
>>98070879Stable is for the Kratos and weirdly storm eagle(fire raptor? one of the gunships).
Does anyone have a guide like this but for mechanicum? Doesn't have to be exactly like this but anything to wrap my head around it
>>98070932Actually on the topic of Mechanicum, I have an idea for a paint scheme but no idea if it'd be any good. Basically since the taghmatas are like the feudal levies of an archmagos, I thought of painting my guys akin to something like bretonnia. Not so much the flashy colors but in the sense, but like heraldric and differing schemes on tech priests, and then the lackeys of said priests being painted the same way with the same heraldic crap as their magos/lord. Stupid idea or nah? An example would be like a Reductor Archmagos's armor being painted a certain way, and then all the thallax are painted in the same colors and patyterns, but any tech priests like myrmidons per se would have their armor painted different for each guy. The robes would all be the same (haven't decided the color yet). Is this retarded? I really like the idea but IDK if in execution it'll be any good
>>98070907Without Stable flyers can never get the benefit from the Heavy or Ordnance rules.
>>98070841>>98070879Can we take the array then?
>>98071340They actually can, aerial patrol (they fire as part of the reaction so they get heavy, so the xiphon is fairly potent into other flyers with its twin linked lascannon (two twin linked lascannon?). >>98071355On the spartan? Yes. The lascannon array is lower S, but its higher damage (so that kinda evens out) and longer range making it the overall more utilitarian weapon. D3 flat is just a nice breakpoint.
>>98069173Very nice, does not look as green here.
Finally finished my first dudes in a new color scheme I like. 38 basic infantry and 1 sicaran left for repainting. Can't think out any good markings (want to freehand something in hebrew 'cause it looks cryptic). Suggestions are welcome.
>plasma annihilator >power claw>apocalypse launchers>lucius pattern headis this the peak warlord titan loadout?
Is the Legiones Astartes: Combat Force a good start to 30k? I want to play Blackshields if that helps. I like everything in the box. and want to escape the modern 40k nonsense. I want to use the Rhino and Leviathan for old editions of 40k as well.
>>98071563Twin-turbo lasers and volcano cannons.
>>98071584It's perfectly fine, especially if you like the units in it. 40k really is turning into the gateway drug to HH lmao.
>>98071607One more quick question. Are the Mk VI marines the same size as the Mk IV? A guy at my LGS said there are two sizes of marines in 30k and that the IV are the old size.
>>98071612
>>98071612The Mk IV marines are around 1mm shorter, compared to newer infantry in a similar pose. Personally I don't mind, because in reality individual marines would be different heights too. But to some terminally autistic people even the slightest difference in size between models is a deal breaker.
>>98071642>Person standing up straight looks taller than person doing a power squatSurprised pikachu face dot jpeg
>>98071642>>98071645Thank you. I expected a larger size difference with how dire the LGS guy made it sound.
>>98071645>different heights and proportions>smaller heads>smaller arms and hands>different design to the armour>but stop noticing, you bigot!
>>98071652
>>98071661Much better comparison pic (even though the Mk IV marine is leaning forward too much, which also makes him look smaller)
>>98071645I want to see your Indomitus squad made up of 2e, 3e, Heroes, and 10e terminators.
>>98071654Yeah some people are extremely sensitive about even the slightest size difference these days. Don't know when it started, back in the day especially metal models had a lot of difference in height yet you never heard anybody about it.
>>98071667The question was about marines in power armour, not terminators.Also the 10e 40k terminators are primaris space marines. 40k in general has moved to a larger scale than HH, and primaris space marines are all explicitly made larger than classic space marines. Might as well complain about legion imperialis dreadnoughts being too small compared to HH dreadnoughts, lol.
>>98071612if you really care about the size you will have to proont some legs
>>98071673>these daysIf you look online, you can find blogs and archives of people comparing different historical miniature brands. I know a bunch of people who like their minis to look good next to each other and not have wildly different designs and sizes in the same force.
>>98071677>suddenly he cares about slight height and design difference
>>98071711Pointing out facts isn't the same as caring about them. Me saying it rains outside doesn't mean I care about getting wet.
>>98071695The historical miniature crowd is an even more exotic strain of autistic though. They care about the smallest details, like the number of buttons on a sleeve being incorrect. HH rivet counters are fucking amateurs compared to them.
>>98071736>if you point out that MkIV and VI are not the same size and design, you're overly sensitive autist>if you point out 40k and 30k models are not the same size and design, it's just observing a fact
>>98071767Holy shit dude, you don't have to become such a raging disingenuous troll just because you felt called out. I only said that people who cared too much about a 1mm size difference have terminal autism, get over it. You're only reinforcing the stereotype here.
>Huge surge of newfags asking for tips on starting in HH as the new edition of 40k draws nearI'm sure this means 40k is doing very well.
>>98072050>I'm sure this means 40k is doing very well.While there does seem to be some hopium about 11th, normgroids are getting burnt out by 40k.
>>98072050It is exhausting to come back to 40k only to find out that my armies can be legends'd or outright removed at any time. I put money, time and effort into kitbashing and conversions an GW shits all over it with MOBA style "patching" and "balancing" to sell the newest or worst selling kits.
My local group tried our best with 3.0 but figured out that even with our changes to it 1e was more fun so we ended up going back to 1e. Posting a summary of our changes for those who despite everything want to stay in 3.0:Different WS chart (you hit 1 point above you on a 4+ is the most important aspect)Score at start of turn No scoring primary objectives turn 1 Limit on line scoring per turn (based on point level)Different terrain rulesWe did a bunch more change to individual units (Kratos melta going to D3 and melta 18 for example) but the above is what made the game a lot less dogshit.Just play 1e.
>>98071655Wait, the head and hands are smaller? On the MKIV?What about compared to numkiii/ii? Given the option between a barely 1mm shorter MkIV and the capacity to completely butcher them on a refresh, I'd really rather just get an old mkiv box...
>>98072314No, on all the new plastic marine infantry. So nu-mk 2, 3, and 6. They all got weird small heads and hands, kinda thin looking arms too. Just weird proportions overall.Mk IV still has old size helmets and hands.
>>98068787He’s still based and he’s also an attempt at turning Thunder Warriors into Astartes it’s why he’s malcadors boy I love an world eater who sticks up to Angron
>>98068787He was purely in a random fleet and never met Angron or cared to. If he met Angron he’d surely laugh at him when he was killing the different company captains.
>>98072314New HH marines have smaller heads, arms and hands.
>>98072340>>98072372Old mkIV truthers vindicated.
>>98072050You’ll be doomposting 3.0 is dead next week
>>98072352>>98072350Wait he’s a Thunder Warrior???? What that’s news to me
>>98072381He has a rare raptor insignia on his body he “earned” on Terra and was from the geneworks so pretty much he’s an attempt at trying to save Thunder warriors that proved too costly
>>98072377Next week I'll be busy going to a local HH event, won't have time to doompost. Sorry to hear you're a nogames.
>>98072400Allegedly
>>98072050>work at LGS>I'm the "Warhammer guy" because no one else knows anything about 30k OR 40k>get called over to help people learning>they show me the charge rules>RAW, the charged unit gets to hit before the charging unit unless the charging unit Fights First(TM)I hate that I've volunteered to play 11e teaching games at the LGS as part of my job.
>>98072458I don't understand why they did that shit with 40k. What was wrong with 'higher number goes first'?
>>98072465Shrimplefied, not shrimple
For mechanicum should I just hard focus on one high tech arcana/subfaction for the whole army or should I diversify?
>>98072478How big of an army do you want to make?
>>98072490At first, 3k points, but eventually I'd like to expand it to play many different playstyles. Obviously the answer to THAT is to diversify, which is the eventual goal. But, and I should've stated this in my original post, my question is mostly from a 3k list for pick up games with my friends perspective. Beautiful stuff you got there BTW, very nice, what are the custom robots meant to be ran as?
>>98072458Didn't charging units get fight first by default? Wouldn't put it past GW to forget to include that rule for 11th lmao
>>98072478Take 1 Magos in your primary. Then as many skitarri marshals and vulturax as you can in your infinity allied detachments.
>>98072511>infinity allied detachments.You can have more than one?>Then as many skitarri marshals and vulturax as you canNot really looking for the best optimal choice, or whatever this is meant to be. I'm mostly wondering what's common sense in list building cuz right now I think a 3k list should have multiple of the mechanicum subfactions but I could be TOTALLY wrong. If you aren't shitposting, why does this build work?
>>98072496>what are the custom robots meant to be ran asDecimators snd blood slaughterers, fluffed as xenos derived abominable intelligences rather than chaos corrupted. As for your question, any arcana other than Cybernetica is not really meant to be run solo, cybernetica obviously had had the most support from FW so they can't have most roles covered in a self contained list. All the other arcana are basically 1-2 units each. For me, I built mine by grouping some arcanas together: cybernetica, reductor + macrotek, laecrymata + myrmidax, archinandrite + daemon engines, etc.
>>98072534My current list has a Reductor Archmagos (cuz i like thallax), Lacrymaerta Magos to go with 20 tech thrallsand hopefully buff some usurax, and a macrotek abeyant magos cuz I wanna buff tanks. Then I have 3 tech priests, one lacrymaerta to go with another 20 tech thralls and one macrotek to buff another tank, and then a cybernetica priest to buff some castellax. IDK how coherent any of this is, your groupings seem more coherent desu
>>98072465Not different to make the game better, diferent to justify the new edition
>>98072515As many allies detachments as you want but they all can't be more than 50% of your army's points
>>98072490Can you play with the mechanicum without tech-thralls? i really really like the look of the robots but i don't want to run hordes.
>>98072572Yes.
>>98072561Gotcha, thanks
>>98072095What makes 1.0 rules (crunch) better than 3.0 in your opinion? I got my own ideas, but I want to hear yours
Never played a game of heresy before - have most of these models apart from the rapiers, Tarantula, landspeeders & drop pods (though they are probably as expensive as the rest of the army combined)Will this work well as a list?TOTAL - 2,985 points >Cataphractii Champion (135) *Paragon of Battle///Veteran Cadre (605)- 5 Seekers + vox (115)- Spartan Assault Tank, Laser Destroyers + Hull Twin Lascannon (410)- Augur Command and Control Squad (80)>Librarian + Divination, Force Axe (105)///Primus Demi Company (960)- Optae + Power Fist (65) *Logistical Benefit- 10 Inductii + Vox, 2 Meltaguns, Sergeant w/ Combi-Melta (155) *Drop Pod transport- 10 Inductii + Vox, 2 Meltaguns, Sergeant w/ Combi-Melta (155) *Drop Pod transport- 3 Rapier Carriers + 3 Laser Destroyers (195)- 2 Landspeeders + 2 Heavy Flamers, 2 Hunter Killer Missiles (120)- [Heavy Support] Castra Ferrum Dreadnought + Gravis Plasma Cannon, Gravis Power Fist, Havoc Launcher (135)- [Logistical Benefit] Castra Ferrum Dreadnought + Gravis Plasma Cannon, Gravis Power Fist, Havoc Launcher (135)>Master of Signals (115)///Shock Assault (700)- 9 Cataphractii + Power Fists (360) *Spartan transport- 4 Saturnine Terminators + Plasma Bombards, Particle Shredders (340)>Tactical Squad + Vox, Plasma Pistol (115)>Tactical Squad + Vox, Plasma Pistol (115) *Logistical Benefit- 2 Tarantula Sentry Guns (45)>Drop pod (50)>Drop pod (50)Feel a bit pigeonholed into a Spartan terminator points sink but feels like the rest of the list is still punchy.
>>98072761Looks like a decent list. Would maybe give the castraferrums double plasma cannons, they almost never make it into melee in my experience. Might as well go full dakka.
>>98072458Is the rulebook written by AI though?
You guys think the SoHs under the palace are still alive?
>>98072961You mean the ones that got stuck in rapid-curing rockcrete? Doubtful. Even with sus-an membrane induced comas they would have used up all the oxygen in their transports long before modern 40k.
