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>>98065000>Full CYOAhttps://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8>Overseer Elite SquadJakunatorihttps://rentry.org/zhc4q6awZankahttps://rentry.org/piutq4n4Kobanhttps://rentry.org/ho6xtppvMika Morihttps://desuarchive.org/tg/post/97972851/Arya Vat Vaisnavahttps://rentry.org/scbirdKisara Kisaragihttps://rentry.org/iz8cv5n4>YatsukahagiSatya (Leader)https://rentry.org/mxyq4ieaSenyan (Satya's Bodyguard)https://rentry.org/tucz6vcoNiú Jìngyán "the Queen of Evernight" (Evernight Captain)https://rentry.org/da8z7uitArjava (Satya's Step-brother)https://rentry.co/safup27dHuāshēngjiàng Wèi Shíqì (Hush)https://rentry.org/2b8eh9fqHajun (Hajun)https://rentry.org/ppmhzp9s>Beast HunterDistorted Miragehttps://desuarchive.org/tg/post/97967892/>Exorcist BureauChitragupta Kumari "Her Holiness" (Deputy Prosecutor General)https://desuarchive.org/tg/post/97972953/>Senguru Monastic DynastyNagomi (Advanced Member)https://rentry.org/xmrtmmar>Sect Society of the Fallen StarLogan Ace (Unknowing Founder)https://rentry.org/3ez8umyn>The Fist of the AlmightyRyusei (Follower)https://rentry.org/fbxdf4rz>Flowing Water SectHisako Amaterasuhttps://rentry.org/k2phy9qaYuushahttps://rentry.org/kxgsbwrb>Former Saika IkkiSaika Magoichi "Ronin" (Former Saika Ikki Leader)https://rentry.org/tq9qdt23Tsuchibashi Mozumaruhttps://rentry.org/7gk4xszf>UnaffiliatedKei (Heiress of Lightning Bugs clan)https://rentry.org/65yymci9Shiki Arakawa (Serial Killer)https://rentry.co/ShikiArakawaShirō (NOT a war criminal)https://rentry.org/kwyf5wmyMeliala (Christian Exorcist)https://rentry.org/melialasc2Gorra Shatterhorn (Oni Clan Exile)https://desuarchive.org/tg/post/97991416/Kuro Hitokiri (Stalker Ninokata Member)https://rentry.co/KuroSCMr. Black (Black Lotus Ltd.)https://rentry.org/gy8p5wba>Overpowered cornerDavid The "Godslayer"https://rentry.co/vomww7o5
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>>98065000>>98065001Choose 3 builds to protect yours, the rest will try to kill you
>>98065106Satya, Ronin, Jingyan.
>>98065106my buildeffortfag's buildpowerwankanon's buildNow we'll never lose
>>98065000Name: Mr. BlackRace: UndeadPotential: Mutated (+35 AP/+5 EP/4 Malignment/3 Benevolent/2 basic release techniques)Conscription - Smuggler (+4 EP/+2 campaigns)Benevolent Alts: Eccentric (+6 AP/+1 Malignment Alt)/Prodigy (+2 AP)/Limitless Meridians (-3 AP)Undead Blood(Free): Lich's Rattling Bones/Ruminating TombHome Territory: The SpinesMalignant Alt: Age Disjunction - Younger (+5 AP)/Code of Conduct - Vow of Celibacy(Free)/Karmic Outlaw (+7 AP)/Trouble Magnet (+5 AP/Rivals give +3 AP)/Magmatic (Create New Sect/choose up to 3 rivals/+1 AP)Aura system: Shallow Generalist (x20 AR/ +5 AP)Recovery Disposition: MeditationAura Affinities: Core G3 (-3 AP)/Flow G3 (-3 AP)/Phase G3 (-3 AP)/Alchemy (-3 AP)Training: Scholarship - Master in Art and Medicine (-3 AP)Basic Tech: Sense Aura (Free)/Sense Karma (Free)/Body Enhancement(Free)/Abiding Flesh (Free)/Sense Enhancement (Free)Great Tech: Sacrificial Liquidation (Flow G2/-8 AP)/Mind Splitting (Alchemy G2/-7 AP)/Transfiguration (-12 AP)Legendary Tech: Summon Rite - Unbinding of the Abyss Lords (Alchemy G3/-15 AP)/Universal Sovereign (Alchemy G3/-15 AP)Equipment and special weapons: Noble Modern Formals (-1 EP)/Mortal World Firearm(-8 EP)Relationships:Companions: Don't know yet.Rivals: Chitragupta Kumari/Mika Mori/Arya Vat Vaisnava or any of the overseer/exorcist/any build on a monster of the week basis (+9 AP)Factions: N/ACampaigns: Visitation to Mortal World/Technique CollectionName: Black Lotus Ltd.Sect Special Advantage: PatronSect Advantages: Inconspicuous/IncomeLocation: Limbo and small hidden meeting places and outposts in The Spinehttps://rentry.org/gy8p5wba
bro people are MASSIVELY fucking overestimating the power of signature techniquealterations are only worth about 5 points, yet these idiots are treating them like they're worth 50 points
>>98065182Worst offenders?
>>98065182They are one of the least talked about topics in the MP this run
>>98065182the point conversion doesn't matter retard. it's the fact you're using up an alteration slot for it
>>98065182Where does it even say it's only worth 5 points? No offense just genuinely curious
>>98065182Well, this is a new troll at least.
>>98065189Shartya
>>98065182You can't determine how strong something is by how many points it costs when points are all over the place in the cyoa. Some options that cost the same amount of points are clearly not equal.
>>98065182>Looks at Lotus, it makes you body and soul immortal>"only worth about 5 points">Looks at hard training's 10+ point value>"only worth about 5 points">Looks at heavenly instrument which can beat out opponent's 'far out of your league'>"only worth about 5 points."Lmao. I guess 5 points is pretty fucking powerful.
>>98065234Not even close to true lmao, Zanka wankmogs effortlessly.
>>98065222>Where does it even say it's only worth 5 points?Nowhere, he just made that shit up.
>>98065243Yeah her technique doesn't even fit as Signature, it doesn't even fit as Special lol
>>98065189If you wanna go by results then Hajun. He took 3 of them and became conceptually immortal.
alright let me just take my signature technique animal form that allows me to turn into animals.... and also become completely immune to all aura techniques while I'm transformedyou know, because it's signature
>>98065189I'm still irked by the guy who changed additive scaling into multiplicative.
>alright let me make a retarded example>you know, because i'm retarded
I accept your concession.
>>98065106My build doesn't need anyone to solo the rest
>>98065243>>98065261Yeah that'd be a Special version of something like Injection, what the fuck
>>98065189Senyan's 4 point Max Devotion
What I'm getting from this is that nobody knows how to use that alteration. We listed every build that has it by now.
>>98065329He keeps saying that it's also free. Where does that part come from? Conductions still consume aura to use, on top of the devotion, and he has nothing to get rid of that in the build.
>>98065348I remember there were more but I'm too lazy to look it up
yeah yeah sure whateveranyway China dresses are hot as fuckwhich builds would wear them
>>98065358I have a feeling that even if you did list them the reaction would be to find something wrong with them too.
>>98065357nta, but check the legend tier conductions. They're different in that minimum tier is passive and free.
>>98065361The author is back I guess.
>>98065357his reasoning was it being passive yet elevated to max but conduction form says "it shifts into subsequent mode for active conductions" and not "it makes the current mode function as a higher conduction" so he should absolutely be draining max-tier aura
>>98065361One of the builds has canonically appeared in one.
>>98065370It's passive and free as in you don't need to devote anything to use it. You still consume aura to shoot lasers or make cuts or whatever. That cost doesn't get removed, you need WEA for that.
>>98065361It fits flatties the best so Jingyan, Kei, Arya, and Arjava.
>>98065370He wouldn't BE in minor mode when using them though.Form only bypasses devotion reqs.
>>98065386>"Any Conduction Techniques the user wields will be incremented above their usual Mode at no additional Aura dissipation."And aura dissipation in this CYOA accounts for both spending and devotion. I'm not keen on arguing about the signature stuff, but you are wrong about conduction form.
>>98065401Nah, minor legendaries don't need aura to do shit like that.
>>98065401Nta but Legendary conditions explicitly don't spend any aura at minor mode, besides not requiring devotion
>>98065358I just checked and over half the builds have it, so not even close to all the signatures mentioned
>>98065417Conductions don't just devote aurathey drain aura as a side effect of the mode used
>>98065361Ronin
the cyoa goes on and on about mixing abilitiesI just assume that three basic fighting styles when used at once equates to one legend fighting stylethe costs line up so I don't see why it shouldn't
>>98065432Yep, and that draining side-effect is that aura being spent. "Aura is Spent continuously" is the exact wording in every conduction, and spending aura is dissipating aura. Conduction Form says you don't dissipate anything extra, and that includes the draining part.
>>98065441Legend has an extra requirement on the Affinity tier, so it'll likely edge out a bit through that, but the fighting styles do mentioned that they combo well.
>>98065441>basic fighting style descriptions"you punch decently hard">legendary fighting style descriptions"you are an unstoppable combat master that is impossible to keep up with and your blows instantly kill EVERYONE no matter what"the legendaries are gassed up way harder by the author because his descriptions are shit
>>98065445This >>98065413 seems to have a mention about how how minor mode is an exception to aura spending.
>>98065432And legendary ones explicitly say there's no aura drained at the lowest mode
>>98065361Depends, what's the occasion?
>>98065452yeah but whenever I toss two characters into an arena and I want to know who punches harder I literally never read the ability descriptionsI just add up how many points they devoted towards specific ideaswhoever devoted more points to punching hard will punch harder
>>98065445>Yep, and that draining side-effect is that aura being spent. Wrong. You don't drain the aura devoted. Devoted aura is already functionally gone. You drain your entire aura reserves.It says "Conduction Modes will be INCREMENTED at no additional aura DISSIPATION". It's referring to devoted aura, not drained aura. It shifts you into the subsequent conduction mode so you're not even in minor anymore, and only minor stops aura draining.
>>98065456And that's the point. Minor doesn't spend aura at all because legendary techniques work different at minor. So if you then add a technique that puts you into a higher mode while also saying it doesn't cost anything extra, you get that higher level while still costing nothing.
>>98065457He's explicitly not in the lowest mode when using Conduction Form. He shifts into a higher one and is no longer in Minor.
>>98065470Anon dissipation is all all aura use, be it spending or devoting, any aura lost through techniques is dissipated
>>98065476>you get that higher level while still costing nothing.The only thing that costs nothing is the Aura devotion. He still drains aura because he's no longer in minor.
>>98065470Brother, I'm begging you. Please read the damn the CYOA before you argue about shit. Please?
>>98065481Did you miss the incrementation part? Besides, it's not about drained aura not being dissipated, it's about the wording used. Dissipation implies a one-time event. He can increase his conduction mode at no additional aura. That's it. It does not apply to draining.
>>98065487slit your throat you illiterate annoying faggot
>devote aura to enter conduction mode>spend aura continuously while creating blasts of fire and shit with conduction mode>if you have legend status, creating blasts of fire is free>devote aura for each conduction mode you activate>alternatively, devote a flat amount to activate all conduction modes simultaneously with omnipotent synchronicity So in theory if you had legend status and synchronicity you could activate every conduction mode in the cyoa at max power for 15 devoted aura and all of their effects would be free.
>>98065504yeah
>>98065494The incrementation says it does so at no additional dissipation, anon. Dissipation includes Devotion from activating the conduction and the continuous Spending.Conduction Form basically allows you to access the next conduction level for the devotion and spending price of the one you're currently using (it straight up says there's no additional dissipation, again that covers both the devotion and continuous expenditure)
I can't believe FRAUDyan got exposed for being a fake uptimechad, and he was really an aura drainlet. Jingyan and Hush are probably going to bully him in the Yatsukahagi lunchroom now.
>>98065512*bathroom
>>98065514bedroom*
does anyone try to use timestop and reverse time or is everyone just going all in on loser eye?
OK, but who's gotta let the opps see the fit first?
>>98065512Not really, if anything it made me realize two things. One is that his combo is more neat than I thought. Two is that anons don't know how flow or even basic aura works
>>98065510>The incrementation says it does so at no additional dissipation, anonYes, the INCREMENTATION. The singular action of increasing your Conduction state. It effects the one dissipation of the incrementation. Not permanently reducing your aura drain. What about that is so hard for you to understand?
>>98065514Satya makes everyone take communal shits for bondingbe there or be square>>98065519Running a train on Arjava is fun too
>>98065529>singular action of increasing your Conduction stateHoly readlet kek
>>98065542don't accuse others of being unable to read when you can'tpoint out where it says it keeps the same aura drain as the previous conduction
>>98065552And the point is that the previous conduction is free in both devotion and drain
>>98065533>Running a train on Arjava is fun tooRonin...
>>98065557>source>unironic delusionsit says it is incremented at no higher dissipationthat's it
>>98065552>If in Minor mode, will conduct as if they are in MajorIt’s literally saying that you stay in Minor but conduct as if you are in Major, isn’t it? So if he’s in Minor mode for a Legendary Conduction, he’d still have the benefits of Minor not using any Aura while his output acts as Major right? I mean NTA but that’s why the “If” is there isn’t it.
>>98065567It also says it literally shifts you into a higher mode. It doesn't become minor acting as major yet still being minor, it becomes minor literally transforming into major.
>>98065567Pretty much, yeah. You're gaining the benefits of the next mode while paying the costs for your current one. The free part comes from Legendary Conductions being free at base mode.
>>98065567>>98065413seems pretty clear cut
Actual masterclass in misunderstanding text so you can wank a combo you think is cool going on here
>>98065512>FRAUDyan>Jingyan?
>>98065593you're the only one that doesn't get it retard
>>98065593I did that back then back in the first run but then the author shut me down :(
>>98065000Woah big relationship web. Anyway I haven't talked here in a bit but I've been a bit busy. I'm writing though
>>98065596Who's name starts with Sen and ends in Yan
Does Heavenly Instrument provide the weapon enhancements, or just unlock the ability to buy the enhancements?
>>98065624It raises the trait cap regardless of whether you buy a basic or ancient weapon. You still have to pay the points to get it and get the traits.
>>98065522You know I got that shit on, homie.
>>98065614It's not even full yet we just got a new build who isn't in tiermaker yet and by extension the chart. Some people probably have some unspecified rival slots too
>>98065649BASED
>>98065649Y-yuusha?
>>98065674She does seem like the china dress type...
>>98065674The one and fucking only!>>98065682I can make anything look good if it has a dragon design on it. It's not what you wear, it's how you wear it.
>>98065717So we give her three bandaids with dragons on them for her next outfit.
>>98065774>If I take those bandaids off, would you die?It would be extremely painful.>You're a small girl!For you.
>>98065567Yes, it's very direct. You pay for your current conduction mode, with whatever devotion and spending it has, and then through Conduction Form you reap the benefits of one level higher. It seems specially good for Legendary Conductions given how they're free at the lowest mode.
which builds job to a guy who is wrapped like a mummy in some paper infused with Weapon Link Collapsing Star and Surging Vortex
>>98065774Don't be a creep. They are pretty tough, though...
>>98065649Yuusha representing Flowing Water Sect!Hisako anon better allocate some of those Income funds to proper outfits. No one signs up to sackcloth
The stars were not right. I will return to my slumber.
>>98065830Fair, fair, we'll give her a dragon kigurumi then.
>>98065822ok ok wait here's Mummy Man's full build because he learned some martial arts>NameThe Invincible Mummy Man>PotentialTrained>BASignature Divine Hand>AffinitiesPhase G3Flow G3>TechniquesHidden MirageMisty DuskDivine HandWeapon Link CS SV
>>98065867oops forgot his imagewho does he solo
>>98065867Give him the Invincible Stance so he can punch himself in the dick repeatedly any time he's not in battle to farm energy
>>98065850Now that I can make look good. Rip off the sleeves and wrap a chain around the waist and we're practically there. Maybe open the chest a bit too.
>>98065652Only Mr. Black is missing from the tiermaker right?
>>98065901>rip the clothes Hisako worked hard to fundFor shame. I thought Yuusha was redeemed.
Ok, so I think this is close to what I want for sneaky pistol man. The basic concept is merging Divergent Lifestream with a pistol to fuck people over if he gets interrupted with being a sneaky smuggler. Surveyor is his "Legitimate Businessman" mode where he's in sealed human form, his Tengu/Oni unsealed form is for combat. I'm not entirely pleased with taking Vast since from what I hear it's kind of cliche, and I don't *need* it with the techniques I chose, but I'm not sure what to do otherwise.Any suggestions?HumanConditioned+30 AP+5 EPSurveyor, +4 EPSmuggler, +4 EPLocation: Anahata PrecinctBA:Pure Pool (Free) (+4 Aura)Heavenly Instrument, 0 APAA: Signature Technique + Personality Quirk (Mockingbird), -0 AP (-5 Aura)MA:Karmic Outlaw, +7 APLifelink, +7 APSealed Power, +5 APOvertime, +3 APVast Specialist, -10 AP(30 Aura)Recovery: Nutrition + PainAura Affinities:Core G1, -0 APPhase G3, -3 APFlow G0, +1 APAlchemy G3, -3 APTrainings:Weaponry Legend (Single Weapon), (Free)Deceit Master, (Free)Stealth Master, (Free)Nemesis: The Feather Tribe, +1 AP Rival: An anon of choice, +2 AP Conscriptions: Visitations to Mortal WorldTechnique CollectionDestroyer of WorldsTreasure BugsTechniques:Sense Aura, 0 APBody Enhancement, 0 APBeloved Name Blessing, (Free)Initiate Status - Oscillating Motion (Free)Initiate Status - Resolute Center (Free)Secret Martial Art - Divergent Lifestreams (Signature Technique), -15 AP Master Status- Distortion, -12 AP Thousand Reflection Blade Rain, -8 AP Heavenly Instrument: Projectile Weapon (Arcane Pistol)Traits, -5 APRupert's DropSilent KillerSevering ShearSilveredScar ScissionEquipment: Disguising Jingasa, -1 EP False Ocular Coverings, -1 EPFacial Breathing Cloth, -1 EP Discerning Traditional Garments, -1 EP Noble Modern Formals, -1 EP Haunted Smoke Bombs, -3 EP Ninja Tabi, -3 EP Lockpicks, -2 EP 0 AP remaining, 29 Aura Total
>>98065925Seems cool. The only idea I got would be changing something like Rupert's Drop for Twin, to instantly spawn loaded versions of the gun. But it's a heavenly instrument so I don't know how the gun really works.
>>98065960I had been considering Twin, yeah. I think that would also be a strong pick. I think the Heavenly Instrument is physically just kinda whatever you want really, since you're spending a BA slot on it, or worse, an AA slot.
>>98065925Would Majestic Weapon Injection apply to the bullets of a gun, or just if you like pistol whip someone? Would go fucking crazy on like a tommy gun or something.
>>98065974That's fair, yeah. I think Twin is badass because he could switch to dual wielding, or just juggling several copies at the same time. If you want impact power, Ultima Launcher is straight up more reliable than Drop.
>>98065874With this? I think he unironically beats everyone except for...>JingyanCan worm darkness in between his bandages>MelialaAcid can drown him and angels could use poisons>SatyaMind control gg (unless his bandages absorb soundwaves, in which case she's fucked)>HushTiny spores in his lungs ggI don't think anyone else can beat him unless I'm missing something
>>98065987Sublime Weapon Injection *seems* like it's mostly meant for physical combat, but idk. Gun Kata would still be cool af though.
>>98065614Happy to hear from you, anon
>>98065924If aneki's spending our funds on big cartoon pajamas, then we got another problem. 'sides, this shit looks fire.
>>98065997If any martial arts builds have celestial alignment, that would also work. Would let them phase through the bandages. If any build can trap him or suffocate him, that would also work. Like Mozumaru could just teleport the mummy into a lake by baiting them off of the ground and then repeatedly teleport him to the center until death. There's also builds that could fight him to a draw by being just as unkillable.Ruination Gong and Force that Shatters the Heavens might also work? They make stuff less damage resistant and that could counter if it works.
Revised the angel concept. No longer trying to outlive the Kalpa, just found in an old Heavenly Prison.>PotentialTalented (45 AP, 6 EP)>RaceShapeshifter>Conscription>Home Territory?????>Benevolent AlterationsPerennial Lotus (-3 AP)Eccentric (6 AP)Resilient (-2 AP)Signature Technique (0 - Inversion of Agony)Animal Blood (free - Wings, Slumber)>Malignant AlterationsTrouble Magnet (5 AP)Magmatic (Eccentric)>Aura SystemVast Generalist (-10 AP, 30*)>RecoveryMeditationSleep (Bear’s Slumber)>AffinitiesCore G3 (-3 AP)Phase G2 (-1 AP)Flow G2 (-1 AP)Alchemy G2 (-1 AP)>TrainingLol, lmao>Basic ReleaseSense Aura (0)Body Enhancement (0)Revealing Light Conduction (-6 AP)Perennial Vegetation Conduction (-6 AP)Animal Form (free) (white dove)>Great ReleaseScorching of the Heart (-7 AP)Inversion of Agony (-7 AP)Panacea Specialist (-9 AP)Master Status - Transmutation (free)>Legendary ReleaseIllumination of the Heart (-10 AP)>Equipment (16 EP)False Ocular Coverings (-1 EP)>FactionsMember: Flowing Water Sect?Ally: The Feather Tribe, SenguruFoe: Solar Trigram, MajushinNemesis (+1 AP): Let me know if it's still retarded. Also let me know if Magmatic means they HAVE to be egotistical, or if they just have a habit of getting under other's skin.
>>98066123>Would let them phase through the bandages.would it? I was under the assumption that it only works on biological matter since it says bodiesit doesn't say you can phase through anything, it says you can subliminate through anatomies specificallyotherwise you could just phase through every force and weapon lol>Teleport himwould that work at our power scale? I'm pretty sure he could split the seahe also could possibly outmaneuver or outlast him>There's also builds that could fight him to a draw by being just as unkillable.besides having Divine Hand to punch people, he could clap to make a super bomb and just evaporate someone by releasing it all at once so he wins conflicts over time>Ruination Gong and Force that Shatters the Heavens might also work?It just absorbs force in the first place so durability wouldn't matter
>>98066165There was some more discussion about the mechanics of the Wheel technique, don't know if you've read it. My recommendation is to swap to Heavenly Prison.
>>98066165>Also let me know if Magmatic means they HAVE to be egotistical, or if they just have a habit of getting under other's skin.Magmatic just means you have something that makes people mad at you. And like the alteration itself says it can work both ways, it also makes you strangely charismatic with the right people. We already have several builds that aren't egotistical with Magmatic, some just can't help but talk in a way that pisses off most, others are just too honest.
>>98066213If he's completely covered wouldn't he be blind too? Also deaf if the technique worked on sound waves.
>>98066213nta, but wouldn't being unable to pass through clothes defeat the whole point of that technique? It's not like everyone is using the nudist tech.
>>98066165>MagmaticIs he going to make a sect with it?>>98066219Should we list how each character with Magmatic makes people mad? Some a clear, others not so much.
>>98066251>Should we list how each character with Magmatic makes people mad?Not really needed, but it'd be a fun mini-prompt.
>>98065867Mr. Black can devote 10 aura pips to universal sovereign, devote another 5 pips to unbinding of the abyss lord, get a abyss lord that breaths pestilance and summon fuse with it and releasing those 5 devoted pips since abyss lords don't unsummon themselves upon devotion release. (according to his section section he is summon fusing and melding abyssal lords to himself in the lower substrates of Limbo).The mummy will go either blind looking at Mr. Black's abyssal lord's visage for too long (eyes literally bleeding out) or go insane if they have weak willpower or lacking resilance and will eventuakky succumb to abyssal lord pestilance breath.To keep the mummy occupied so he isn't spamming divine hand and CS SV he can just dogpile a bunch of his transfiguration flesh puppets, not to do any damage but to grapple and quagmire the mummy down, he's able to get pool up before the fight begins while his main abyssal lord body delivers the kill via attritional pestilance.
>>98066234he could use that Expansion Flow technique to sense surroundings
>>98066280>according to sect section>and will eventually succumb to abyssal lord pestilance breath.I hate phoneposting.
>>98065997Any flowcell can get between his bandages.
>>98065997Any phasecell can take off his bandages.
>>98066217Perhaps you misunderstood me, that is what I've decided to go with.>>98066251>Is he going to make a sect with it?Nah, not enough ego to deliberately make a formal sect. Besides, I get the feeling we have enough already.>>98066261Turns out some people don't mind firebrand street preachers but hate the Mormon approach (not that he's actually Mormon).
>>98065997Assuming he isn't just standing there and fights back if able>JingyanAgreed. She just needs to touch his shadow>MelialaThe angels have a better chance than the acid>SatyaCan just command the bandages too since it's not just mind control>HushSuffocation and poisoning seem like very viable tactics
>>98066332>Nah, not enough ego to deliberately make a formal sect.We already have an accidental cult and just gathering of friends or political movements. Making a sect doesn't need to be his concious decision. But you do you.> Besides, I get the feeling we have enough already.You can never have enough factions. I can still see the background on the relationship web, we need more connections.
>>98066331>Divine Hand + Misty DuskProbably gonna be difficult>>98066335If he has Careful Embalming from being a trve mummyman poisoning won't be an issuebut Hush could probably make pitcher plant spores or whatever from synchronicity that use acid instead of poison or just deal cellular damage or explode his lungs so whatever
>>98066346>If he has Careful Embalming from being a trve mummyman poisoning won't be an issueSuffocation it is then, Mr Black can just keep dogpiling flesh puppets, forcing the mummy to release his saved up CS SV and divine hand until he runs out of aura and tires out.
>>98065000If Hisako anon is around I have a question. What kinds of secrets does the sect have exactly? I'm trying to see if certain plots would work as I catch up.
>>98066373>and divine hand until he runs out of aura and tires out.He has no spent aura or aura drain besides devotion no? All his stuff is devotion or passive.How does stamina besides aura work anyway
>>98066381Unless you have a technique that helps with exhaustion or endurance, or a training, it's just normal physical stamina
>>98065000What are some builds that yours would synergize particularly well with? Can be in terms of fighting style, personality, etc.
>>98065001https://rentry.org/redgoldrogueOk, trying this again. I think this might be a more interesting build than Elil "I Exist Only To Kill" Punchman, and thus maybe more fun for you guys to think about. I downshifted some of the teleporting stuff for a more diverse array of utility techniques at the lower end that I think might be better suited for a smuggler (and hopefully also useful in combat since he's got G3 in both the linked attributes).It's a more complex build than what I've attempted in the past, usually I'm more the smash face guy than the sneaky sneaky cheeki breeki guy, so I'd appreciate some eyes on him to make sure it all makes sense and holds together mechanically and narratively. Hope yall like him :D
>>98066714Oh, and I managed to force myself to resist the temptation of Magmatic/Trouble Magnet, which I'm kinda proud of.
>>98065142>>98066714So who's the better smuggler?
>>98066767I think between his affinities and his demon summoning Mr. Black can probably flatten Xiaohong if they come to blows, but I think Xiaohong's abilities are a lot better suited for actually moving goods.
>>98066789Different modes of smuggling and specialties, Mr. Black is good at moving things in bulk, because he is his own workforce and specialized towards organ and flesh trafficking branching into media and entertainment services, while Xiaohong is way more streetsmart, mobile and nimble, he can technically move anything, but because he doesn't have the systems and booksmart experiance Mr. Black has in place, so he has to move the highest value goods to make it worth his while, while Mr. Black can handle any scale of order but takes longer for delivery.
>>98066767I'm not sure if they're even doing the same job. Both are smugglers for sure, but Mr. Black seems geared towards a much larger scale operation and Xiaohong is geared towards being an individual but very capable smuggler.If you're looking to smuggle one very sensitive package, Xiaohong is better. If you're looking to organize large scale regular shipment of more common goods, Mr. Black is your guy.
>>98066808>>98066806That sounds about right, yeah.
>>98066714A question, how good *can* a weapon become? What does Weapon legend using a single Heavenly Instrument actually mean in practice? I know there's synergy, but how much?
>>98066165why not just use alchemy legend to permanently become the angel summon?
>>98066887We will never know, the author refuses to say.
>>98066887The wording we get about this is>If you're especially educated in how to use it properly, you'll be head-and-shoulders above even the best in the City Between, to say nothing of your prowess if you've spent a lifetime training. In the face of supernaturally durable opponents, enhanced speed, and the whole panoply of labyrinthian Techniques, your sheer acumen allows you to contest foes far outside your league by deadly skill alone.Then there are the five weapon traits your weapon can have all at once, and the ability to buff your weapon via techniques that would normally only affect you, and the ability to use touch-based techniques through your weapon instead of your hands. That last bit is especially relevant for guns.
>>98066714illegalyou didn't pay the 8 equipment points for a mortal firearm
>>98066921It's not a mortal firearm, but a magical projectile weapon. They're rare but not unheard of per the Projectile Weapon description.
>>98066921What gun store around the Carolinas sells these, cause if you know I'd love to go stop by there for a purchase.
>>98066935>>98066944I don't make the rules. If you want a gun it costs 8 equipment points.
>>98066949Yes, the rules say if you want a Mortal World gun, it costs 8 points. This isn't.
Literally just read it.
>>98066958"Largely lost" isn't "Actually lost", and it's neither a modern ballistic nor an explosive.
What are the odds that this is the same readlet from the conduction form bullshit?
>>98066957>>98066966What kind of shameless point whoring is this?>didn't pay 3 points for a projectile weapon>ignores the fact that the cyoa specifically carves out firearms as a separate, more expensive purchase>tries to rules lawyer his firearm as being magical therefor the same as a crossbow or chakramJust pay the 8 points. Not everything has to be an exercise in mental gymnastics. Sometimes you just take things as they're written.
>>98066979It's the same faggot crying about Magmatic too
>>98066983I'm not point whoring, these are Equipment Points rather than anything important, but I disagree with your interpretation of how things are written. We've had a hell of a lot of trolls in these threads lately just trying to stir shit up, and it's very plausible you're one of them.
>>98066995Why are mortal firearms 8 points with no alterations if you can just pay 3 points to get the exact same firearm with 1 alteration?Explain how this makes sense to you.
>>98066983Nigger it ain't a modern mortal firearm, it's basically a magic wand shaped like a gun. A knife attached to a gun shaped handle wouldn't have the cost of a gun.
>>98066995nta, and I think he's being an idiot about the mortal world gun thing, but he was right about one thing. The custom weapon itself still costs points. (3/6/10 EP for basic/special/ancient). Heavenly Instrument doesn't come with a free weapon or anything like that (It tells you to pick a weapon you have, not to acquire one of your choice). Should probably drop some misc gear and fix that even if EP is the less valued currency.
>>98067006For one thing, I've been watching people scream through the past three or four threads about how the author is sloppy with his wording. More importantly, why would a Heavenly Instrument relic item be a Mortal World item? You're burning a freaking Benevolent Alteration on it, that's a far different thing than going and buying a 300 dollar shotgun from Walmart.
>>98067013Fair enough, most of the gear I picked wasn't particularly important and having two Conscriptions can pay for it. But yeah, the wording of "Mortal World" feels like it should mean something concrete.
>>98067014Okay so to be clear, you want to change the rules. You want to cross out the mortal firearm option entirely and just have guns be a generic item anyone can have. Correct?Also, the weapon isn't what the alteration is buying. The alteration is buying innate talent that's so incredible it bonds your soul to the weapon, thus giving mastery and technique channeling and alterations.
>>98066983At no point in this cursed cyoa has anything been written down with the proper precision it needed to be and we all know it. He's wrong, but you're an autismo supreme for acting like this.
>>98067030I just wanted a magic laser blaster firing congealed alchemy that poisons people's souls, man. You can't buy a gun with ice powers or strength-enhancing powers or indestructible metal in the Mortal World, so it just seems bizarre that you're expected to buy a Desert Eagle in order to achieve this.
you'd think cyanide and other poisons would be the thing they actually ban instead of guns
or like radioactive shit
*throws radioactive shit at you*
>Bewitchment of Skies>Signature TechniqueSpend 8 aura to create local hazards like heavy storms, cold snaps, and heat waves.Spend 12 aura to create regional hazards like blizzards, tornadoes, sandstorms, and floods.Spend 16 aura for catastrophic hazards like hurricanes, tsunamis, and volcanic eruptions.Spend 20 aura for cataclysmic hazards like meteors, super volcanoes, and earthquakes.Spend 24 aura for world changing hazards like gamma ray bursts, solar flares, ice ages, and extinction level meteors.At what point does this become too much for a single alteration?
>>98067140>Spend 16 aura for catastrophic hazards like hurricanes, tsunamis, and volcanic eruptions.This is where I'd draw the line. I can't decide if a signature basic is great tier or legend tier, but I'd hesitate to put a single legend-level technique on par with large scale disasters, so I'd say that's too far no matter what. Feels like the sort of power you need to use your whole build to synergize towards as a bare minimum.
>>98065000>>98065001Good night thread. Have a card comp update before I go.>>98065142>>98066714New builds...? New card data? New update! Thanks for helping out anons. Another couple entries and we'll be half way through the page.
>>98067140>Spend 24 aura for world changing hazards like gamma ray bursts, solar flares, ice ages, and extinction level meteors.blud this is a city block level verse
>>98067185>As a companion..>As a romance...>As a rival...I don't like how this reduces player builds to npcs that can be added like items on a shopping list.
>>98067140It should probably scale nonlinearly at the higher end. Maybe 30 aura for the biggest effect.
>>98067202I quite like having the cliffs notes for other anons builds readily at hand. Helps me to remember who they are.
>>98067202that's what you all are to my build thobeit
>>98067245Satya...
>>98065919Yes
>>98067423Correction there is also the new build
>>98065000I made a rentry for spirit conscripthttps://rentry.org/scv22026Please tell me what to name this run and any things that I have missed since i am relying on threadslaves' notes>>98066563I think Meliala would synergize well with Ronin. Meliala and Ronin have no qualms in killing, the only thing that separates them is that Ronin would wait for someone to gain a high enough bounty before taking them on while Meliala will just pull the trigger.
>>98067460SC2
>>98067460There is >>98066714 who have been added to the threadslave notes yet.
>>98066714I'll add it to the tier maker when I get home.
Anon hours are weird these days
my tummy hurty
>>98068077I was here at 5 am last night because all my blood vessels were vibrating for unknown reasons making me unable to sleep due to possible nerve damages because im getting old like all the other millennial, but I wasnt exactly much good for conversation.
>>98068109its the migraines and lower back pain that get me...
>>98068123Mostly im just glad the two mris i did didnt show multiple sclerosis which is what I was really worried about. I however now have no answers about what the fuck IS going on.
>>98068077Some recent discussion finally inspired me about what to build for SC so I've been working on that.
>>98068193What concept?
>>98068193Glad to hear that, anon! Looking forward to see what you cook up
>>98065000>>98065001Catching up to some stuff I missed and I noticed something. Arjava has a nemesis description? Is he considered an organization by himself? PCs normally don't have a nemesis description individually.
>>98068193The recent discussion has been rather hostile, so im a little afraid of what youve brewed up lol
>>98068358Nta, the recent discussion has been a mess. But going by that we can expect someone with a legendary conduction and the Wheel with an arsenal of "totally not a gun (tm)" weapons. Or just an oni sister to the spymaster.
>>98068380Im like 90 percent sure conduction guy and magic gun guy are different people. Gun guy never seems to use flow techniques in his builds for whatever reason. 0 DBZ aura
I dont have a huge amount of time to write and i rarely check here anymore. Can i get a qrd on the new thing?
>>98069045We're doing Spirit Conscription again. That's it. Small talks of getting something sci-fi going though.
>>98069062Again? I must have missed the first one too. Thanks anon
>>98068213Guy who is a medium for souls basically.
>>98068099y
>>98069125so max out the potentials and use signature technique to upgrade ancestral recourse so that your ancestors can use techniques through youin theory it's like having every technique simultaneously with the added bonus of freeing up all your points to spend on aura
>>98069243Seems a little busted
>>98069243>more signatureslop
>>98069243Nope, he does have Ancestral Recourse but that's not the central part of the build
>>98069243Signature Ancestral Recourse to have your ancestors fight through you and become super skilled is kino. Using it to get other techniques is fraud behavior and some seriously malicious advice for you to give.
are builds set in stone?is there any reason to take prodigy?
>>98069387There is no reason to take prodigy unless you desperately want 2 ap for some reason.
>>98069387it's cool and lets you flex being able to grasp techniques more easily even if you don't actually grab more. I personally took it for that reason and also the extra points to explain why a character can learn their existing techniques despite their inexperience.
>>98069387no but also noif you take prodigy and start progressing, other builds will also start progressing to catch up, so in the end your prodigy is just taking space
>>98069407If there's progression and anons still have their builds grow at the same pace as someone with the better progression perk they're retarded.The alteration shouldn't be devalued just because others are dumb.
>>98069439boo hoo
>>98069439And making every single progression focused thing in the CYOA mandatory to keep up is even more retarded. It'll just become a worthless rat race where everyone needs to pick the same exact shit and no one gets to actually be interesting. The mp shouldn't bend over backwards and die just because some anons are dumb and can't put down their protag syndrome.
>>98069465>anons want to be main characters >anon is upset about thisBoy are you in the wrong place then mudcorebro.
All PCs are protags unless specified otherwise.
>>98069439On some level I agree. Anons investing in abilities to facilitate progression is something that should be acknowledged. Builds are a central part of the hobby, and simply matching the growth of your build with theirs without the crunch to back it up is lame. Personally I don't mind my build not having Prodigy, I got the techniques I wanted already, and I don't see my character as someone who learns more super high level stuff with remarkable ease.
>>98069473>All PCs are protags unless specified otherwise.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMSrIWb6uP4
>>98069482As long as Withering builds lose their Aura, I'm fine with everything else.
>>98069489Withering blossom is either so potent it kills you before the story can start, or so slow that you can finish a story before it really kicks in. There's no useful outcome with that malignancy other than being free points.
>>98069473Fuck that noise, I want to know which PCs are the mini BBEG bosses, final BBEG bosses, secret final bosses of the mp.
>>98069482nta, but for me it's more like an unspoken social contract being broken. It's more about being polite and sensible than the setting or the CYOA. Everyone made their builds to fit a purpose, with some idea of how they fit into the setting. Characters don't just exist in a vacuum. The setting around them is also a big part of who they are. Most of them wanted to be cool bad-ass characters that stand out in the stage that is the city between. Progression means the setting will escalate, giving the builds new context that they might not be made for. I don't think most of us planned on progression, and throwing it in anyway undermines those characters. You're essentially redefining other builds to be worse in order to make your own look good when you make a character for progression in an mp that wasn't expecting it. That makes that person look like an asshole, and I'd rather not leave traps for people to unknowingly get treated like assholes for something they probably thought was fair game.Main TL;DR is that you either screw over the people who want progression or you screw over the people who didn't plan for it, and I think most of us are the latter and we need to be clearer about that so both sides don't piss each other off for no reason.
>>98069540>the mini BBEG bosses, Jingyan, Senyan, and Hush.>final BBEG bosses, Satya.>secret final bosses of the mp.Yuusha.
>>98069577Behold, a functional human being on /mcyoag/
>>98069601Impossible, that anon must be suffering from heat stroke.
>>98069609I did get a headache from the heat the other day... You might be onto something anon.
>>98069637Yeah its getting hot, you gotta stay hydrated.
>>98069577Progression is a natural part of any narrative and pretending the entire cast to be stuck in time is much worse. In this case it's a key part of the setting too, so not preparing for it should be considered a decision made un purpouse.
>>98069679Then all you have achieved is the immortality tax under a different name, because anyone without prodigy will lose in the long run to anyone with it.
>>98069577NTA, but I think those points are pretty lackluster for being against progression. However, I am also against progression, just for different narrative/mechanical reasons. Our characters are already in the top percentage of the setting by sheer virtue of Kofuko allowing us to adjust ourselves to our liking. Even ignoring the isekai portion as I know some people are uncomfortable in including it in their builds for acceptable reasons, Aura users with as much Aura capacity as ours are very few and far between. It'll take absolutely top tiers to match us. Take the Fourth Magistrate as an example. She's touted as an almost invincible opponent which will be extremely tough to kill, and her favored techniques are Naked Warlord's Armor, Reconciliation of the Immortal Coil, Five Immortalities of Wukong, and Mountain-Smashing Lord. One of our builds could easily pick those and grab additional techniques. Now this isn't to say its her entire arsenal of techniques, nor that this combination isn't effective or strong, but judging a favored techniques as the main core of their "build", it still doesn't seem all that impressive for one of the more powerful people in the city in comparison to a PC due to the amount of points invested even if we don't know her Aura System or full Affinities.All this rambling is to say it's strongly implied or outright said these techniques take years to learn, at the very least for anything beyond Basic. We simply will not reach any sort of timeframe to progress in a meaningful manner unless we're spanning the MP across decades. Even training Aura Capacity would take just as long. For the most part, I would consider our builds set in stone because we'd have to initiate months long timeskips between every story to reach a pace where we can show off improvements for new techniques. We couldn't even get to the rank up in Naruto with a timeskip, so I highly doubt that SC will live long enough to actually consider progression seriously.
>>98069577>>98069577>>98069679Plus it's only double speed for techniques and aura development. Builds without prodigy can still grow at a decent pace
>>98069540Mini bosses and BBEGs are clear, we have evil people. Secret final bosses are more interesting, they are usually something you have to go looking for in games and sometimes you have to do a lot of setup to make it work. I have some ideas for them, and it would be kinda cool to see what would lead some characters to become one.
>>98065000so what are the restrictions for making a build here compared to just making a standard cyoa build? Are companions banned?
>>98069728>Are companions banned?Yeah. No companions. I can't think of anything else... It's not a rule exactly, but we mostly ignore the isekai parts and treat the builds as youdu natives. I guess that's important.
>>98069697>because anyone without prodigy will lose in the long run to anyone with it.And that's a problem why? Not everything has to be seen in that way, you don't only win or lose. Characters can have a narrative where it makes sense for them to progress more, so you take progression options. If you don't take one you clearly don't care about going fast. The MP isn't a battle royale, there is no last man standing, you don't have too keep up to be relevant.
>>98069728>Are companions banned?Depends on the CYOA and if we want to incentivize player interaction.It's largely like a collaborative storytelling activity where instead of making a build and discussing your plan and being done with it, you write stories of your character within the setting and others anons with a build do the same, and you interact and affect the world/each other. It's been compared to /qst/ but honestly not that similar because there isn't a GM or anything who's in control, nor is there like voting for outcomes and whatnot, unless some poor volunteer wants to put themselves in the most cursed position ever conceived and get struck down by god like so many of the attempts before. We've only had one successful arena style with a GM here and its loved as much as its hated by those who participated.
>>98069702>it's strongly implied or outright said these techniques take years to learnNo it's not. The author refuses to give a timeframe for anything.
>>98069769Writefags are by and large combat based. The vast majority of powers, trainings and techniques are oriented toward combat. It may not be a formal battle royale, but it may as well be.
>>98069781It would be unreasonable to expect high power techniques to be quickly learned.
>>98069781author-sama refuses to do much of anything apparently thougheverbeit
>>98069783Wow, we found the problem. When you reduce a whole setting to being something that it's not of course you start running into made up problems.Even if the setting has cobat as key part of it why does it have to be between PCs? Why does it matter if your build is stronger? You can have stories where different leves of power interact, you can have different intreconnected stories in parallel. You can have no combat at all. If all you care about is combat and who the strongest is then you don't want an MP, you want an arena or a powerscaling thread from dbz.
>>98069679>>98069702I think it's fine to have progression if we're all on the same page and working towards it. If it was popular enough and we all started to update builds with progression in mind, I'd have no other issues with it. Don't know if we have that many people who care about it however.Timescale is also an issue. Just having to come to some kind of consensus on how fast the progression would be is a nightmare. Is it fast? Is it slow? We'd run into issues trying to decide and implement it (and if we're being honest, that's the actual reason why we assume no progression in mps. Less headache.) Realistically our narrative progression would be what it's always been; character growth, shifts in relationships, etc.
>>98069758hmm... good to know, guess I need to make an actual build then, I think my original build had like 35 companions.
>>98069697cripple the prodigious vermin firstthat way they have weakpoints when powerful from being anally devastated prior
>>98069810Exactly, and that's why progression fags don't want mps. All they care about is getting more combat power no matter what else it fucks up.
>>98069728>Are companions banned?That's the only "restriction". Most things are actually more open. as>>98069758 said most builds skip the part where skeleton guy picks someone from the mortal world. Rather than restrictions the main difference would be the amount of detail you should put into the character, a certain level of backstory and personality is expected to be able to write the character as part of other stories.>>98069758>we mostly ignore the isekai partsIt's still not an isekai by the way. There is no other world, Mortal World is still there, it's part of the setting. If anything it's a masquerade.
>>98069810Crying about powerscaling while also arguing for prodigy, a tech which scales your power, is certainly a choice captain angry.
>>98069842So you're OK with learning non-combat techniques?
>>98069810>Even if the setting had combat as a key part of it why should it be between [THE CHARACTERS ANYONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT]yeah let the prodigychuds fight in their own little bubble kekalso what's with this cope that prodigynerds will become the strongest?
>>98069781I mean just for Affinities it says Legend Status in Alchemy hasn't been achieved in 60 years, but you could say its due to genetic luck/natural talent as that's all the Meridian Affinities shake out to be. Techniques that describe stealing your strength/aura capabilities such as Consummate Self-Incarnation of Divergent Lifestream describe needing months or even years to recover if you get too sapped by them, but you could also claim its due to being crippled and not merely sent back to the start. Prodigy you might describe as merely scale and not an actual representation of the time it takes for other people to master Release techniques specifically. However, I think looking a the existing characters and the Lore Doc describing the quantity/quality of normal inhabitants paints a pretty large picture on it being extremely difficult to learn these things. If not for time, then purely from a resource standpoint, as they are gatekept by Clans. If you do manage to discover their secret techniques, then maybe it would be far easier to learn it as unlike most other people you possess the actual affinities to grasp it. I still think that there's no real reasonable timeframe for the MP to be able to learn these as you'd have to be constantly bouncing around to scrounge up reasons on why you'll be able to learn these techniques or find someone to teach you.>>98069824It was discussed in the first run and I raised up similar points. How many AP should you actually get, and how much time should pass. 1 a month in setting, letting Prodigy get 2? Should it be a basic technique worth as you couldn't buy anything with just those, and can you bank it by saying you were working on learning said technique until you earned enough to buy it? Should it even be possible to learn Legendary techniques through this way? So and so forth, its like you said, far too much of a headache to deal with this sort of progression when you have to factor these kind of things.
>>98069842Progression is part of the narrative, if the narrative includes being better at combat then it's fine but it doesn't have to be. A character doesn't become useless if it's weaker or if it it would fall behind over time.>>98069847The point is that characters should be relevant to the kind of story they are supposed to be telling. If being strong is part of your narrative you should have a build that reflects that, if potential to be strong later is a part of the build the mechanics should reflect that. Bob the street vendor doesn't need to keep up with the guys that fight for a living.
>>98069853So only the PCs matter at all and everything else is irrelevant? Have fun in your void with characters floating in it then.
>>98069880If potential to be strong later is your narrative niche, then just don't spend all of your points and slowly update over the course of the mp to become a full build.
>>98069865it really does seem like too much of a hassle to implement actual progression mechanics. Its not like prodigy is going to be the only factor effecting your learning rate, then you have aura affinities, clan affiliations, someone just having a lot of money to pay for a tutor. No one is going to manage or agree on this stuff, this is why the author doesn't give concrete numbers because there are way too many factors to consider to give them.
>>98069892yesI can and I will
>>98069865None of the things you described give a timeframe or even a hint of one. Legend status being rare is not because of time, it's because G3 is really rare and without it you are pretty much fucked. The techs hurt, they don't send you back, they explicitely cripple you.>r, I think looking a the existing characters and the Lore Doc describing the quantity/quality of normal inhabitants paints a pretty large picture on it being extremely difficult to learn these things.The lore doc, and the author, said that people just don't have the right affinity for this shit. It's rare to have even 1 G2 affinity. It's not difficult to learn them, you just straight up can't. The average people just suck and that's why nobody has good techs.
>>98069926So you just admitted you don't want an MP, you just want to smash dolls against each other in a vacuum.
>>98069928Affinity Tierlist when?
>>98069928>It's rare to have even 1 G2 affinityDangSo most aura users get mogged by challenged shallow generalist shitters
>>98069944prove that settings other than white voids are necessary for multiplayer>my dolls have a playhouse so it's different!!!
>>98069783>Writefags are by and large combat basedAre they?
>>98069968yes
>>98069961Unironically yes. Challenged sucks compared to the other origins but you can still make someone stronger than 80% of the setting with it.
>>98069728It is worth stating that companions aren't fully banned and do get included in backstories and whatnot sometimes. Not sure about companions specifically, but canon factions and characters from the mission section have already been woven into build backstories in meaningful and character-defining ways for this SC run. It is more that it's not practical or as interesting for MP to focus on companions much when you could use a PC instead. Companions are typically redundant. And sometimes the structure of a cyoa lead us to restrict or eliminate companions for mechanical balance.
>>98069928I quite literally mentioned all these points in the same post you are responding to. That's why I also brought up that the resources and connections you'd need would also be the bar for learning said Techniques and still make it an unreasonable timeframe within the MP's lifespan.
>>98069961>challenged shallow generalist shittersHey! I resemble that remark!
>>98069968No, that's just bullshit to prove a fake point.
Current /mcyoag/core songhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=U0Sf3mkHsfc
>>98069982You can still be a potential man with all affinities at G3 so yeah
>>98069972I feel like personal drama, relationships and SoL are more fundamental to writefags than combat itself.
>>98069995>personal drama, relationships and SoL anons are even worse at those than they are at combatand they SUCK at combat
>>98070003I forgive them.
>>98069984In SC specifically companions are not used at all. They are used as rivals to fill in the gaps until a PC is found. But factions are a different story, they are a much more importat part of the setting that can't really be ignored.
>>98069990yezzir its cold outsah
>>98070003So true, Spherecel, I love your combat.
>>98070014Not like that's a hard rule. You're not going to do anything if I want use one as an npc.
>>98070014Yeah, I just meant that it isn't a hard rule for MPs in general. From time to time people find a use for them
>>98070003Simply the /mcyoag/ issueThe creative juices of anons don't line up with the story I want to tell half the time and I'm forced to use NPCs
>>98070026Last run someone threw a fit because of it. Personally I don't care but some anons really hate them.
All SoL slop is better than my combat slop. The number of (You)s proves it.
>>98070059>said number of (You)s>3 vs 2
>>98070059the anons with the worst combat slop have even worse SoL slop so this is doubtful
>>98070069More like 4+ vs 1 at best. Even when the theead was mire active it was difference of like 6:2.
we need more gore, torture, and rape
>>98070200Who should gore, torture, and rape who?
>>98070200WillowCHAD...
>>98070221what a dogshit build that was
>>98070221what a kino build that was
>>98070203Hush should be psychologically tortured by giving all the ladies access to free gym memberships
>>98070200You'll grow out of this.
>>98070221An SCcore build made for the wrong world... OP didn't deserve our queen...
>its yet another episode of "Everyone Is Butthurt"
>>98070285Who are you even referring to?
>>98069540>mini BBEG bossesKuro, Shiki, Jingyan>Final BBEG bossesSatya, War Form Jaku>Secret final bossesSaika Magoichi (non-amnesiac)
>>98070254He'll make the best of it by handing out complimentary "protein" (weight gain) shakes
>>98070200>GoreEnter the Eight Grasping Limbs>TortureDead Reckoning Just need some rape.
>>98070294meI have hemmorrhoids
>>98070308Need to get to Ronin and Mozumaru being rape corrected.
>>98070299>War Form Jakuone pump chump
>>98070254Leave bro alone. He already needs to contend Jingyan walking around and using magic to make people fit again. Don't you feel pain in your heart to think of months of hard working vanishing in an instant?
>>98065001>NameReibai>RaceHuman>PotentialMutated>ScenarioMultiplayer>ConscriptionMedium (Custom)>Home TerritoryThe Lunar Ring Borough>Benevolent AlterationsPure PoolSignature TechniqueSpecial TechniqueSpecial Technique>Malevolent AlterationsTrouble MagnetOld Grudges - Both against his own clan and against those whose souls he channels.Delicacy - The constant mingling of his own aura and soul with that of legendary sources has elevated it's taste.Magmatic - Severely autistic.>Ambivalent AlterationsHeavenly Instrument / Quirk of Personality - The connection to the Vessel is such that some personal quirks of those he channels may imprint on him for a time.>Aura System Shallow Specialist>Recovery DispositionsMeditation, Sleep>AffinitiesCore: G0Phase: G0Flow: G3Alchemy: G1>TrainingsLegendary Ceremony Training>Basic Release TechniquesAura SenseAura TransferAncestral RecourseWeapon Link - Eternal Loyalty and Unerring TruthSpecial version of Beloved Name Blessing>Legendary Release TechniquesSorcerer's Servant EyeSpecial and Signature version of Weapon Link - Faithful Soul and Resurrected ServantInfinite Inertia>EquipmentHeavenly Weapon - The Vessel (Twin, Severing Shear, Silvered, Butchery, Scar Scission. Applied Heavenly instrument to a Regenerating Cuirass)False Ocular CoveringsDiscerning Traditional GarmentsImpersonating Solemn Uniform>CampaignsTBD>Rivals and NemesisMajushin, The Solar Trigram Cult and the Lunar TempleMeliala, Chitragupta, Logan Ace>Sect: Kikaden/Palace of Returning GlorySpecialists (Special option)SecretsFavorsRentry with the full build: https://rentry.org/qdoka378
>>98067858Seems Anon still did not get home, and I'm going to sleep soon, so I guess I'll update the relationship chart with the new builds tomorrow.
>>98070361Looks rather neat, anon. Not particularly strong, if anything quite weak after reading itSo he's looking to join Yatsukahagi?
>>98070361Is this our only shallow build?
>>98070361How old is he?
>>98070487no, I remember Bush being one as well
>>98070487I think we have like 3-4 including him
>>98070454Thanks. Yeah he wants to join, and his own sect could become a subdivision within Yatsukahagi.>>98070487I recall there being other builds that took Shallow, so no.>>98070493Early twenties, I'd say 22-23.
>>98070496>BushMY FELLOW YATSUKAHAGI, WE MUST GO TO WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST
>>98070454Is Yatsukahagi just the default choice for everyone who has a custom or signature technique or something?
>>98070402My bad, added Xiaohong and Reibai to the tiermaker
>>98070517Jet fuel can't melt Sacred Metal conductions.
>>98070531Jingyan, Arjava, and Hush all don't have one
>>98070361Interesting build, a unique execution of the whole meduim deal. Just a couple of things to point out. Old Grudges requires you to choose at least 1 nemesis from the player sects, you have none.I'm also curious to see the reasoning behind the rivals, as Reibai seems to not have much of a drive in general.
>>98070531To add to this >>98070543 there are also several that have Special/Signiature techs that are not part of that sect, like some of the overseers and Hisako.
>>98070544Fixed, thanks for pointing it out anon.
Who has the least amount of aura?
>>98070361Strange question. Does Reibai hold any sort of important or special position in the sect or is he just a normal member/tool? Does having the sword make him some kind of authority?
>>98070742I think it's Hajun. I would need to check properly but from memory and glancing at the build rentry he's the only one that has an Ambivalent alteration, Shallow Aura, and neither of the Pool alterations. He also doesn't have Cultivation training. So unless I missed something he should have 15 Aura, which is the lowest aura you can have in the cyoa.
>>98070742It's Hajun because he has zero sauce
>>98070745His position was central to the sect, he was born into it and his modifications were done in order for him to be fitting of that standing. Usually the upbringing and depersonalization carried by his role are enough to condition the medium into being a pawn for the elders of the sect. It prevents the medium from really making use of their authority in most cases. Said authority is what allowed Reibai to leave the sect to look for legends on his own, much to the dismay of the seethign elders.
>>98070361Why would someone like Chitragupta be Reibai's rival?
>>98070905He's always been aligned with the Yatsukahagi agenda as an external supporter faction. Though personally what little he understands about his feelings include finding figures like her revolting and he doesn't see her as holy at all. Even for someone with legendary techniques who reached a position such as hers, Chitragupta doesn't reach the standing of true legend his mission is to preserve.
>>98070905Nta but I can kinda see it. She works for the spirits that Reibai's sect wants to use, I assume whatever the sect is doing isn't that good for bureaucracy. Reibai also seems to have a sort of grudge against nobles that serve spirits.Meliala is probably because of being a fanatic and Reibai's sect being a different religion.I don't get Logan, may be related to the secret sect he founded but not much with him personally from what I can tell.
So, how should I go about choosing Xiaohong's rival? Or is it more entertaining to let one of the other anons make the selection?
>>98070945Go with what you think is more ineteresting. I just finished catching up with the new builds and he seems interesting. I have a funny idea with him in mind but I don't know if it would be classified as a rivalry.
>>98070965What kind of idea?
>>98070884
>>98070361>>98070933>>98070937And how does the Sepulcher of Reverent Legends interact with spirits exactly? If the ancient spirit has mind splitting. has its soul fragmented across multiple different vassels, can the sepulcher house a fragment of an spirit (example behaving as another mind splitting vassel) or does it encapture the spirit and all of its soul entirely?
>>98070937Logan is the most personal and unfair rivalry for Reibai. He just doesn't like him. An individual focused on their field, isolating themselves in it and uncaring for others in general. Basically what Reibai doesn't want to be himself.He may be autistic to a fault and also get on other people's nerves like Logan, but Reibai isn't fine with that. He wants to change for the better and grow through interactions with others, and those who go about their own thing not paying enough mind to others are a reminder of his own flaws.
>>98070976It works with Souls, not Spirits.
>>98070986Fine souls NOT spirits, I hope you get what I mean still.
>>98070970With Logan, I was looking for rivals too but he seems too chill for a real rivalrly. It would be like a strange challenge where Logan keeps finding him around, since Xiaohong like disguises and Logan has Legend investigation and a couple other things. But it wouldn't be violent, or even detrimental to be honest, since Logan has no reason to distrupt his business. More like a game. It's a bit too friendly for a rivalry, but it could get annoying if it happens when Xiao need to stay hidden. It also works out since they are technically colleagues.
>>98070976>>98070986The soul has to be dead, or at least acquired through his other techniques, so that pretty much solves the Mind splitting issue since even if separate the pieces are still part of a larger whole soul which is alive. By itself the Sepulcher can only claim souls from the river Vaitarani before they reincarnate. He could also gather souls through his eye, then transfer them to the Sepulcher.If it'd lead to more interesting plots I can change it so it somehow works with fractions of souls.
Soul value tier list?
>>98070979>An individual focused on their field, isolating themselves in it and uncaring for others in general. Basically what Reibai doesn't want to be himself.But Logan isn't like that? His isolation is self imposed and out of respect for others, to not drag them into his mess, and he is also trying to change, which is why he came back to the city. I guess Logan is kinda a mirrored version of Reibai in the social autism department, he undestands people and knows he makes them mad but he also has reasons why he can't stop doing it. Logan is convinced that some things have to be said, no matter how hurt people will end up after hearing them, and that's also part of growing as a person. Logan is pretty friendly all things considered, he's just too honest.I don't know if this is a misunderstanding of how I wrote Logan or an actual in character misunderstanding that Reibai has, but I just wanted to point this out. It's an interesting angle regardless and I was wracking my brain to unserstand how that rivalry was going to work since Logan himself would have nothing against Reibai, in fact they have a surprising amount in common. I'm very curious of how you were plannig to make it go.
>>98071089Anon's point is that Reibai specifically doesn't like seeing himself mirroredSo even if Logan is changing (which Reibai is too) he's still an example of things he hates about himselfIt's pretty easy to understand
>>98071032And how autistic is Renbei? Does he keep his side of any promise or contract by the literal letter?Because I am attempted to have Mr. Black make a deal with Renbei, he can act as an active abyssal lord-like soul in the Sepulcher he can rely on for combat and social situations. Mr. Black can help Renbei be more assertive, learn how to register social cues since he has impeccable customer service and relations skills as well as show him how the modern Mortal world works. In return Mr. Black has another form of insurance in case all of his flesh puppets, real body or business gets annihilated.
>>98071110Reibei'My autocorrect keeps changing it to Renbai.
>>98071089Pretty much this >>98071103. Having stuff in common with someone else doesn't eman you'd get along, specially if said stuff is somethign you hate even on yourself. Also Reibai isn't that obsessed with honesty. Some things do need to be said, but that doesn't include whatever one blurts out to qualify for Magmatic, for example. The world is full of nuance that Reibai wants to learn about. There's being honest, and there's not having filter.>>98071110Sadly I don't think Mr. Black would fit the Sepulcher because of Universal Sovereign. He's basically a Spirit. And even then Abyss Lords are otherwordly abomination rather than mortal souls.
>>98071138Understandable.
>>98070974There it is, Flow G0 reactions. I kinda missed these.
>>98071019Yeah, I'm not sure how intense a rivalry needs to be to qualify for the points also.
>>98071155use the in-cyoa companion rivalries as a baselineaka you try and kill each other
>>98070974hehe made me laugh
>>98071166Is that a Hajun keychain?
>>98071169yea it ended up super tiny
>>98071138This is going to be a very confusing rivalry for Logan, I can see it working but it's going to be very different from how I just finished describing normal Logan rivalries in the update. I just had a strange idea that probably counts as a reciprocated rivalry so we can work with this, but it will start pretty one sided. Considering who the other rival is I may have to change the description entirely because at this point I don't think there is anyone left who would make Logan act that way, other than maybe Mr.Black.
>>98071160>aka you try and kill each otherMost of the "as a rival" descriptions we got in the cards and the way people are saying the rivalries work are not like that.
>>98071166What is it made of?
>>98071184then they're wrong? bozo
>>98071199Well you sure got up on the wrong side of the bed today.
>>98071199When the majority aggreed on something and you think something else in this kind of setting that's not how it works.
>>98071202you must have been shat out the wrong end of your mother's privates, shitstain>>98071207lemming
>>98071199So now we need to reset all the rivalries because you in particular decided they don't count?
>>98065106In character, probably Mozumaru, Meliala, and Arjava. The latter two are just because most people he interacts with are openly hostile to him, and he wouldn't trust them to protect him.ooc, Mozumaru, Meliala, and Nagomi. >>98066563Mozumaru is the big one, his fighting style and huge bag of tricks benefit a lot from Ronin's future sight and weakness detection. And Iriguchi/Distortion lets both of them escape from 99% of sticky situations - only something like a stealth poisoning or trapping them for 30+ seconds in a Heavenly Prison Gate would really work. The Eye + Uranaishi might make them the best precogs in the City, since they can spam long-term future questions and have perfect short-term future sight.Other than that, probably Meliala (he can provide physical support while she summons angels and precog to diagnose problems, while she can treat poisons which are one of Ronin's biggest weakpoints) and Nagomi (she can provide aerial support and nuke enemies while Ronin identifies the optimal targets and can defend her after she runs out of aura).>>98066714Nice smuggler! Ronin might try and commission him in the future for some explosives or this 'computer' thing he's been hearing can play porn. Silent Shiver Curse, illusions, and stealth are a pretty scary combo, especially since he can snipe with his skill with a gun.How's he get to mortal world? Just slapped down a Merciful Recidivism prism somewhere? Or go the long way through the Spines every time?>>98070361Another Eye chad! He's got a shit ton of versatility by just swapping out the soul in his Sepulcher and using trapped Eye souls for various techniques. He can also shit all over certain builds with Infinite Inertia, especially if he can get some items to replenish aura so he can use it more than once.Think the Saika Ikki that killed his father should be someone notable (Ronin, Mozumaru, one of the various lieutenants in the sect) or just a nameless member?
>MMM YUMMY GIVE ME THOSE 9 POINTS FROM THE RIVALS!>w-wait... they... want to FIGHT ME? they want to KILL me? erm hold on I didn't sign up for that, I wanted free points!
>>98071160>aka you try and kill each otherThat's not even true. Several of the cyoa companions are indirect and annoyances at most instead of actively murderous.
>>98071217>a rival has to be a retarded killing machine and cannot have any kind of nuance
>>98071199will you fuck off back to cyoag where you belong, jackass
>>98071212if they don't align with the cyoa they should be changed yeah>>98071219>Zuruzaba>Yunlai>Rin>Fumie>Futaba>Aki>Rokubi>Terabawants you dead>Junko>Hakuma>Suzuwants you permanently imprisoned>Yuxi>Kikuro>Madoka>Hana>Yomi>Niwamaru>Mailikely wants you deadI got bored but the vast majority want you pretty dead
>>98071215That's a good question, I assume probably the long way around a few times, but then Xiaohong would stay in stealth mode and spend a good bit of time in Mortal World roaming around. Primarily, he'd be looking for shiny things to nick for the boys back home, and every so often he'd chuck down a prism or three for later use. Even in sealed form he's still got enough aura to use that technique at least once a day.
>>98071191shrinking plasticalso updated hajun's rentry with his sect stuff since i had magmatic and yatsukahagi allows members to have their individual sects
>>98071249>I got bored but the vast majority want you pretty deadAnon, your own post already contraddicts you. 8 want you dead, 3 don't, and 7 isn't clear. If anything the "vast majority" seems to be a lot more vague.
>>98071215Thanks!>Think the Saika Ikki that killed his father should be someone notable (Ronin, Mozumaru, one of the various lieutenants in the sect) or just a nameless member?Either way is fine really. The death is just some neat connection I thought of, and Reibai isn't bothered by it lol. For all we know it could be just another of the countless victims whose blood was tasted by Ronin's blade, or just a side job taken by one of the liutenants as part of their mercenary work.
>>98071270>3 don'tyeah they want you as a sex slave or imprisoned in an impenetrable fortress forever>7 uncleardespite being unclear they still want you to fight them to the likely death instead of just wanting you dea
>>98070487It's not even the only one in this thread if you count Mr. Black.
>>98071298That's not the same. The cyoa allows for different types of rivals, that has been proven, death is not the only motivation.
>>98071315sure we can change the motivationdeath, or ruining your life foreverhappy faggot?
>>98071314For how much we get complaints that everyone picks Vast that clearly isn't the case. It's a lot more balanced than waht the thread discussion would make you believe.
>>98071320>>98071232
>>98071327>cyoag is... being a meaniekill yourself or go there yourself thanks
>>98071232It's really easy to tell because he doesn't know how we do rivalries
Currently working on an introduction to the Flowing Water Sect, both with the characters as well as the layout of the place itself. Any builds that would be hanging around?>>98065924>>98066029Yuusha's actions are tolerated, if only because Hisako has bigger problems. Still frustrating that she insists on dressing like a delinquent, but a stone does not erode overnight. And Hisako likes to pretend she's still hip with the kids.>>98066165You're welcome in the Flowing Water Sect when you finish your build.>>98066378Considering it's the Special Advantage which makes it one of the strongest in the city, pretty much anything and everything could be down there. Hisako not only has troves of treasures from her villainous days, but even now will accept payment in secrets. There's countless family recipes, but there's also training manuals for legendary and lost techniques. Needless to say, there's a lot of stuff down there.
>>98071324More vast than the other two combined is pretty extreme, but you are right that the thread acts like it's 90+%.
>>98071332seriously. just being belligerent for its own sake is like a fingerprint. shitty little larper
>>98071338dumbass responses get deserved responses
he's been outed and keeps going
>>98071314Something something horseshoe theory?
>>98071333You're welcome to use Ronin, he'll go anywhere that has cheap meals, and his apartment is shitty enough that the water isn't reliable and he might need to visit the bathhouse. I had an idea for a writefag of him and Mozumaru going there to hide out from some Overseers, only to way overstay their welcome and get harassed by Yuusha as she fails to get them to leave (only for Hisako to ask nicely and the pair quickly comply). But I have a few other writefags and maybe a relationship chart I want to get to before that.
>>98071333>Any builds that would be hanging around?nta, but I say we throw a Hajun in. Maybe he's even an old friend that helped Hisako getting Flowing Water Sect started way back when.
>>98071359>He's the only one who treats Hisako as if she was young
>>98071333Miss Amaterasu, what a delight to finally to be acquainted!I decided to drop by your most auspicious establishment, as... you haven't answered any of my messages... I'm sure for one of your social stature and prestige you must be quite pre occupied. My offer still stands Miss Amaterasu, how can I Mr. Black be of... service.
>>98071347the cope is insaneyou got a fucking boogeyman lmaocheck under your bed tonight
>>98071333>There's countless family recipes, but there's also training manuals for legendary and lost techniques.Interesting. I guess my idea makes sense then, I still need to polish it a bit but it's going to be ready soon. With all the new stuff happening I have to restart every time I think I'm done.
>>98065106David, Meliala, and another MelaliaIm going for the heaven's gate skip tech.
>>98071333Kuro probably would on occasion. Seems like an easy place to hide in plain sight while gathering intel on dangerous people of interest.
>>98071324But anon, Shallow gives you the equivalent of 10 points for free as long as you didn't intend to devote more than 20 aura.Everyone always starts at full capacity for a fightfag anyway so the lack of regen speed doesnt come up.
Reminder that G0 means you are basically peak mortal in some aspect, which for a cultivator is dogshit doodoo water.Shallowcucks will rue the day they dared minmax against the DEPTHGODS.
>>9807140220 aura isn't a lot and many abilities require spending aura, not just devoting.
>>98071414Or you know just take limitless meridian.
>>98071414isn't it like +15 pointsI'm sure the shallowchads are wiping their tears with those points lol
>>98071414G0 affinities straight up say you're at average mortal level at best anon.
>>98071455The wording is vague. It goes between average mortal and straight up a deficiency, but adds "may" and "could" so it's not 100% guaranteed you are bad, it's up to you. Nta, just pointing out that G0, like many things in the cyoa, is very vague.
>>98071491that more or less means "average"
>>98071402Not to mention that if you start using too much of your aura reserves you'll fuck it up. Even using most of your aura too fast will need days or weeks of recovery. Going to 10% or even 20% might be risky unless you really never plan on ending those devotion effects. It's not just "free" even if you use it like that, it gives points for a reason.
>>98065000>>98065001Logan has been updated with new stuff. I don't remember every single change, I think it works for now. If I don't stop now I probably never will.Added a section that explains the reason why the sects are in the foe part.Added the relationship guide for the card folowing the cyoa format.Added some short lines to explain what the cult thinks of the various sects and the general disposition in the cult rentry.Locked in the second rival, only one more to go. With the new additions from this thread I will have to update the fluff again but it should be faster and not have mechanical consequences. The cult relationships will also be updated later.For now I will try actually writing something instead of changing the build every couple minutes.>>98067185Card anon, let me know if I need to make a shorter version of Logan's description for the card, the relationships are at the end with the second image. Describing characters in few words is not my specialty but I can try.
>>98071333Meliala would like to volunteer. She is with ronin and they both eat food and then she tries to convert hisako to the christian faith.When she meets hajun there she tries to fight hajun again and making a mess of the place unless someone stops them. Meliala likes to fight hajun in a friendly way. Maybe they fight outside after some convincing
>>98071744holy fucking CHADsh
>>98071744So who's going to step up and be our 0-0-0-0 quads of utter dominance?
>>98071770I had a full 0 Affinity Pure Body build with like 70 devotion set up but since I already had a character there wasn't really a point to post it.
>>98071758
>>98071770I can still hear Yoko-chan in the wind..........
>>98071744>>98071758>>98071783>Yes I need prep time to activate all my techniques or else I get speedblitzed>Yes I can't pull so I just rape women>Yes I need help with lifting my groceries
>>98071790pov: you're Hush's one G3 and these are your fellow affinities in his soulspace
>>98071744The higher you rank the more valuable your genetics are in the eyes of potential suiters btw.
>>98071844So you're saying it is imperative that Mr. Black breeds with Hisako.
>>98071844>max affinities>public figure>almost no allies>only allies she has are wimpsSo when does Hisako get kidnapped for breeding purposes?
How would you even go about making a 0-0-0-0 build lmaoonly thing I can think of is using Special or Signature on a racial technique to bullshit your way into passable stats
>>98071862Bro has hivemind, so he's got some real business opportunities when you really think about it.
>>98071867As soon as they find someone she won't just drain to death with legend status.
>>98071876>lobotomize her>inseminate the vegetable
>>98071876She'd be draining something alright
The hag lust is insane... Someone hide the hags from these guys.
you don't have to coom inside her if you just do that thing the blind old man did in that one movie about burglarsy'know the one
>>98071895I don't know, so can I do the Batman Beyond thing instead?
>>98071873Bro has hivemind, transfiguration, scholarship master in art and medicine. Bro can literally fleshsculpt any sort of sexually anatomically correct body he wants and then inseminate them.
>>98071333Nice. Been brainstorming writefag ideas myself, just been too busy to do anything about it. Like how I'm just getting home and I already have to go to bed to wake up on time. Fucking hell. So your's will be a good help to me on how things generally go down. >Yuusha's actions are toleratedSee? She loves me!>spoilerImagining a scene where Hisako tries and butchers modern slang and Yuusha has to force a smile through the cringe.
>>98071868This was a build >>98071776 that I was tossing around since I like making build concepts even if I don't plan to make them for an MP. It's pretty much just taking advantage of Pure Body's exception to Racial Techniques to exploit Haunting Terror to devote every single bit of Aura I can while stacking Meridian Expansions. With Cultivation Legend added to that, should be 40 extra aura making my total capacity 70 points. Still has 3 points left over since originally I had G1's in everything but Alchemy, but it works the same with G0's since none of the techniques have Affinity requirements. >Race: Undead+Abiding Flesh+Undead Blood>Potential: Mutated+35 AP+5 EP4 Malignant3 Benevolent2 Basic Release Free>Conscription: Warsmith, Insurgent +16 EP>Benevolent Alterations: +6 AP TotalEccentric (Magmatic) +6 APPure Body +5 APRebirth -5 APUndead Blood (Lich's Rattling Bones, Careful Embalming)>Malignant Alterations: +20 AP TotalKarmic Outlaw +7 APSealed Power +5 APTrouble Magnet +5 APOvertime +3 AP>Aura System: Vast Specialist -10 AP>Meridian Expansions x4+32 Aura Reserves -40 AP>Recovery Disposition: Pain>Affinities: +4 AP TotalCore G0 +1Phase G0 +1Flow G0 +1Alchemy G0 +1 AP>Trainings:Martial Arts Legend -7 APWeaponry Legend -6 APCultivation Legend -9 AP>Basic Release Techniques:Haunting Terror (Free)Martial Art- Tiger Rush (Free)The trainings are honestly unnecessary, could drop one to get enough points for yet another Meridian Expansion, but it's just to have a little bit of versatility since it's just a pure physical statstick. The real pick for a power spike would be the weapons, which would either be the Gunbai no Kamikaze to take massive advantage of Pure Body Strength, or Hamon-Line Sword of Waves to take advantage of the massive aura reserve capacity. Overtime allows me to take both and slot in something like the Noroi Gakkotsu to fulfill all three weapon choices for Weaponry training, but theres room to swap.
>>98071333Nagomi going there for a drink isn't beyond the realm of possibility, but she's not someone who enjoys presence of reprobates just because she prefers not to kill any random thug. More over, a place where undesirables can take refuge is something she'd find irksome (painting Hisako as knowingly allowing the city's wickedness to fester for profit or such would fit her MO). She's not in terrible need of the sect's services, so a visit would have to have some ulterior motive beyond leisure.
>>98065000Is it too late to join this? I finally have to time to actually be active in the thread.
>>98072136It's not too late. Early plotlines haven't formed yet, so it's a pretty good time to join.
>>98072146Got it. I see there are two mob groups in the op image with no members, would anybody mind if I made my character a member of one of them?
>>98072136We just got 2 builds this very thread, and nothing really hapened yet, so it's still quite early.>>98072160>I see there are two mob groups in the op image with no membersAs in actual mob? The groups with no members in them are NPC groups for now. I don't think anyone would mind if you joined anyone in general. Player sects all have at least one person because they are the one that founded them.
>>98072178>The groups with no members in them are NPC groups for nowI wonder if it would be a good idea to distinguish between the player sects and the NPC sects, maybe by giving them a different border, like Saika Ikki has a faded border because it's a former organization.
>>98072136Yeah it's too late actuallyYou didn't bring your resume either
>>98072178>the groups with no members in them are NPC groups for nowThat's what I assumed, It's just that since I haven't been here for a few weeks I don't know if anybody has some specific plans for them I might impeding if join one.
>>98072196Well, I don't think any plans will be impeded by you joining anything for now. As always people would prefer players joining other players but joining NPC factions was never banned.As you can see everyone hates the Hellion Mob, as usual, so maybe keep that in mind.
>>98072212fuckin bliggersblueberryskinschokingmonkeysbreathholders
>>98072228I... didn't know it was this bad...
>>98072212>>98072228I can see that... Maybe I should get a quick rundown on the existing gangs so I don't accidently put my team rocket ass build into the "we are going to fucking kill you" crew.
>>98065001Alright, rolling with this build.>Name“Gabriel”>PotentialTalented (45 AP, 6 EP)>RaceShapeshifter>ConscriptionCustom (3 EP)>Home Territory?????>Benevolent AlterationsPerennial Lotus (-3 AP)Eccentric (6 AP)Resilient (-2 AP)Signature Technique (0 - Inversion of Agony)Animal Blood (free - Wings, Slumber)>Malignant AlterationsTrouble Magnet (5 AP)Magmatic (Eccentric)>Aura SystemVast Generalist (-10 AP, 30*)>RecoveryMeditationSleep (Bear’s Slumber)>AffinitiesCore G3 (-3 AP)Phase G2 (-1 AP)Flow G2 (-1 AP)Alchemy G2 (-1 AP)>TrainingLol, lmao>Basic ReleaseSense Aura (0)Body Enhancement (0)Revealing Light Conduction (-6 AP)Perennial Vegetation Conduction (-6 AP)Animal Form (free) (white dove)>Great ReleaseScorching of the Heart (-7 AP)Inversion of Agony (-7 AP)Panacea Specialist (-9 AP)Master Status - Transmutation (free)>Legendary ReleaseIllumination of the Heart (-10 AP)>Equipment (9 EP)False Ocular Coverings (-1 EP)Qiankun Pouches (-8 EP)>FactionsMember: Flowing Water SectAlly: SenguruFoe: MajushinNemesis (+1 AP):Hellion Mob>RivalsTBD>CampaignsFiller ArcTechnique Collection*Night of Lantern BugsLost in LimboRuin RaiderRentry here: https://rentry.org/SC2026Angelbro . How far can I push Inversion of Agony via Signature Technique?>>98071333Excellent! He should prove somewhat less of a headache than Yuusha (if still a slight headache).>>98071691"You know much but understand little. Have you forgotten what our Lord said about the Pharisees?" These two are slated to butt heads in very polite fashion, should be entertaining.
>>98072299An odd, youthful man recovered from a dissipated Heavenly Prison in a distant, ruined kingdom two months ago. Unable to provide definite answers regarding his past, only that “it wasn't the will of Heaven for me to spend eternity so confined”. The erstwhile inside of the prison had been shaped by the subject into a cross between a garden and a workshop, and he freely shared his creations with the survey team; several curios were of appreciable value, but none were breathtaking. He also possessed perfect knowledge, and expressed thorough understanding (and belief), of the King James Bible… which the Jade Sovereign and his court find troubling as the ruins around his Prison seemed far older than that version.He conducts himself, in short, as a living embodiment of the Seven Heavenly Virtues, a fitting parallel with his white wings and oft-visible halo. Most interestingly for an inhabitant of Youdu, he is a strict pacifist; he simply does not raise his hand to fight. Instead, he uses a curious version of the Inversion of Agony technique to inflict upon his assailants what they've inflicted upon him. He suspects he is not “the” Gabriel mentioned in the word, but isn't completely opposed to the idea he might be. Whether he is or not, those with Karma Sense have noted that his is astronomically high, leading some of Youdu's Christian population to insist that he is a “real” angel. If anything, he finds the attention troubling, as “they're supposed to worship Him, not me”.He found the Flowing Water Sect not long after arriving in Youdu, and a few weeks later, formally joined them, deeply moved by Hisako's dedication to peace - and while he isn't fully aware of her past, he can recognize its broad strokes in her eyes. He's proven perfectly content in any role assigned to him, his greatest shortcoming being forgetting that patrons are supposed to actually pay. While he does not force the Word on others, he is very keen to speak about it.
>>98072299>How far can I push Inversion of Agony via Signature Technique?Pretty much as long as it isn't wanking it to be unbeatable, you have freedom to do as you want. Koban's made Living Forge Refolding exponentially scale over linearly, Senyan made Conduction Form give +2 levels to output instead of +1. Making it twice or even stronger is fine, though personally I'm not even sure what aspects it could boost. Making it Full Counter style to reflect twice as much damage back, or give some reduction in how much damage he's personally receiving without reducing the potential damage reflected back, or both? Really just depends on what your idea is.
>>98071844Why are both G8 and G5 marked as Deep Generalist limit?
>>98072471anon made a stinky and meant vast for G8 likely
>>98072185In most cases they have no members listed, so it's not difficult to spot them, and if they aren't custom but do have the members like Overseers and Senguru, then does it even matter? Technically, even beyond that is mostly recognizable by the presence of a PC with the golden border.
>>98072481I think the mistake was deep specialist for G5 actually.
>>98071844Wouldn't G3s matter more than being well rounded?
>>98072548I think it depends on the clan too. Beef Steakpunch Clan isnt gonna give a shit if your alchemy is 0 if your other three are g3
>>98072564Yeah, but is there a clan that'd take 4xG2 over 1xG3+3xG0? They all seem specialized in some category.
>>98071844>The higher you rank the more valuable your genetics are in the eyes of potential suiters btw.Bullshit. Everyone knows the higher your potential, the less points you have to spend on techniques.
>>98072701But high grade gives you free techniques
>>98071633>Foe: Hellion, Evernight Palace, The Formless Path, The Fist of the Almighty, Hush's Branch, Flowing Water Sect, Black Lotus Ltd., Eternal Path, Kikaden/Palace of Returning Glorybruhwhy are you doing this to me?
>>98072744And since when is "Hush's Branch" a thing? He doesn't have a sect listed?
>>98072748He has magmatic and is a yatsukahagi general and expressed interest in writing his subsectJust hasn't gotten around to it apparentlyTick tock Hush anon
>>98072744The Eternal Path is listed both as an ally and foe. How very tsun
>>98072787He can just be a member without his own sect subset branch. I don't see much of a base to mark him as a foe.
Also, who the fuck are Eternal Path?
>>98072859but he is
>>98072867Hajun's sect
>>98065000I might have missed something, again, please check your character and tell me if there's something to fix. Gabriel wasn't in tiermaker yet, so for now I just used his main pic. Logan-Anon, I hate you.
>>98072960this is getting too bloated to be meaningfulmaybe you should reorganize itcreate 2 of every person and line them up across from each otherput groups into boxes
>>98073001Wouldn't it be more efficient to make something like a type chart, but about who hates who at that point?
>>98073023explain furtherI'm currently trying to get python to do this automatically
>>98073001First of all, it's not the same vibe/>>98073045I feel like the duplication will just make it more complicated down the line.
>>98073045Have you ever seen something like this when Pokémon was ever brought up? Something like the pic but the attack is the person forming their opinion, and the defense is the target of said opinion. It would also allow for one sided rivalries in this format.
>>98073063Well the fun part is done.But there's no way in hell I'm cropping 30 images and compiling all the relationship data so I guess that's where this ends.
