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>>98086240Fuck ON Votannfag
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
What's the best space wolf HQ option currently?
Votann belongs to Destiny, but that shit is dead so they came here.
i like grots
>>98086281Games Workshop is finally dying? Please tell me so.
>>98086289>new 40k models not using steel Legion sand bases>dkok models actually used texture paste for basing.Uhhh bros.Is gw finally moving away from sand basing to actually using their texture paste products?
So these guys are just raptors but actually interesting and better in every way, got it.
>TQRecency bias, but this one's really good
>>98086311With the introduction of terrain based objectives It would actually be really cool if mantis warriors had a version of their old chapter tactic of having furious charge through terrain.
6’ vs 5’11”
This one's also a classic
>>98086286for shorter posts it feels relaxing to just type out shit fast without thinking too much, capitalizing too much feels like im at work>>98086313damn, that is sick
>>98085666Beam all the way, otherwise it feels like star wars.
>>98086338I am also on team beam.
I went to a dollar store and got a small notebook I plan to use to write paint recipes of mixing.Maybe print and glue or tape pictures of models onto the pages.What other useful and cheap things can be bought from a dollar store for this mini painting hobby?
>>98086240>>98086302>tfw I just remembered Comrade's Hammer got nerfed so now I need to find a way to get my sci-fi revolver fixI need find a way to mod one of these into 2077. At minimum a Trigun mod.
Which one of these personally shut down Destiny II?
>Votann will be pouring into here by the drovesIt was planned all along.
>>98086344>Not played Destiny 2 in donkeys>Oh I remember the fat fuckers and the ships and so on. Wouldn't mind playing th..>They removed the campaign>They removed an entire campaignImagine Halo 2 was just obliterated from Orbit because Bungie said nuh uh.
>this fps mmo just died>ughhh get ready for the flood of people coming to play our boomer autism tabletopsyou guys need to calm down and get off that high horse
Does GW do all of its animation from Brits or are they still working with M2 Animation that did the Krieg kill team animation and pariah nexus in the unreal engine?Mostly just curious here.Also why did gw clamp on fan animations and not fan art?
>>98086369Nobody cares about your autistic hyperfixation
>>98086369What a devious plan that they've been scheming for years. Bungie Workshop's been building bridges so microtransaction whales have an easy road to plastic crack.
>>98086319obscure chapters like them used to have rules?
>>98086259>tq
>>98086382Where do Ubisoft and all the other collabs fall into this?
>>98086387At what point are the standards gonna be so high that the mini painters could outdo the Mona Lisa if they were traditional painters on canvas instead of miniatures?
>>98086363The one who did must be rewarded then sent back in time so they can do it sooner. Hopefully by shutting down bungie before they made call of duty: reach.
>>98086382Who the fuck gives a shit about Marathon?Don't get me wrong, I am not necessarily saying Destiny is as popular as it once was, but it has an autistic fanbase that are ravenous for updates. Marathon is just extractionslop.
>>98086386Yeah, all the Badab war Chapters either got a special chapter tactic of designated a chapter tactic of they were similar enough to their parent chapter.I think even non-badab war chapters go some later on like the spears of the emperor in 8th.
>>98086398What made the badab war from forgeworld so good and remembered fondly?
>>98086259>What’s your favorite model diorama you’ve seen?
>>98086404Bottom left dude got that neck like the live paleontologist reaction meme.I love that diorama. Did a woman make it by chance?
>>98086397Let's just say the filename of >>98086293 I fully agree with. For many, Marathon as an extraction shooter was a very, very bad idea. Not just if the IP fits it but it's just the flavor of the month genre and they're delusional to think it has staying power. Humorously, they tried getting Tarkov players to try it, not understanding the crazy sunken cost fallacy of Tarkov players, and none said they'd play it. According to angry D2 fans, they think tons of resources for their game was redirected to Marathon at a moment D2 was doing well, thus killing the next expansion which the game never recovered from. You know that old saying about protecting everything = protecting nothing? Bungie wanted an unlikely best case win of having both ongoing and big but merely gutted one for the other.
>>98086386This is what could happen if marines had one codex with a bunch of extra rules for chapters. Instead they have to write and balance all these separate books and by the time they've finished the first founding the edition is over and they have to redo them
>>98086403A lot of the imperial armour books showed off their new kits in campaigns and warzones, and since a lot of the old forge world guys loved modern military history they were chock full intricate battle map breaks downs and details.It was also the fact that pretty much all of these type of conflicts were just normal campaigns that happen in the background, so there was much fanfare around certain big named characters showing up if even they did, and there was no fate of the galaxy at stake, just conflicts that arise from the flow of the galaxy.
>>98086413*wasn't much
>>98086293Can GW scam like bungay?
What is this votann=destiny meme?I remember the goatse door for the reveal meme.I remember leaguechads stay winning repeated and then they got a big nerf because codex was overpowered and James made an apology video.I remember a votann sperg who kept samefagging with votann art pics and fought everyone who insulted votann and anons snidely fought back.So I can say with certainty for better or worse what does this votann is destiny mean? I do not get it.Is it good that I don’t get it?
>>98086413So the conflict was intentionally a big nothing from start to finish which oddly enough made people like it more than the big galaxy shaking events?
If you give even one iota of a fuck about Destiny then you take lubricated horsecocks in the assYou may as well be talking about little league baseballs scores for how interesting your shitty console game for wagies and hood rats is
I like orks :D>>98086259TQ: I quite like the one with the IG surrounding a downed female eldar because it’s a nice mixture of goofy and dark, and it also allows you to use your imagination as to what will happen next. But my favorite will always be my own where orks are haggling over beakie bits, though my soon to be collage entry might become my new favorite soon.
>>98086423It's just one retard's hyperfixation. He's been at it for years now.
>>98086430>rip manus and leman russ fans if that image is true>raven guard primarch is Slav and socialistI don’t get this joke.
>>98086430how many of these fags are actually dead (for real)?
>>98086324>"""""miniature"""""
>>98086406>Did a woman make it by chance?As I hear it, yes. Never seen proof though.
>>98086449it's no bigger than the old one, retarded tourist
please make alternate reiver helmets without the edgy cod ghost motif..please
>>98086456just use your spare bits?
>>98086429Badab wasn't fully a big nothing, especially since it was a two book affair but it started out small problem, taxes, and spiralled into multiple chapters either going renegade/chaos, but that's isn't a galaxy shattering event.
>>98086457but muh canon
>>98086456I’m surprised it is still there.Pretty sure the skull jaw style is seen as problematic by redditors and more because of /pol/ webm and mp4 memes involving gost’s behemoth remix.Apparently the one who made the remix is dead too.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4rq8PjgNI3c&ra=mo7 if true.So yeah the white mask skull jaw over black mouth cover scarf is seen as problematic and gw didn’t remove the skull motif helms despite them probably knowing.Maybe if “those people” raise about how it could be a dogwhistle then gw will change the helms and you’ll get your wish.But beware the monkey paw curl.It might be a worse space marine helmet.
If Votann are from something else, I would argue Starcraft 2 is a better fit than Destiny, for fuck's sake.
>>98086430>Lorgar shows you don't need to wage war to bring worlds into the Imperium, and that the worlds brought in via enlightenment are better off than those conquered by force>Emperor chimps out and cries about how 'it's not fast enough', as if he and his Primarchs aren't immortal
I'm going to make a long post then I will reply to myself once nobody immediately replies to me.
>>98086344>Bungie putting D2 on life support>Nothing about remastering D1>All they have is>Nu-MarathonThey're gonna get Bioware'd
>>98086485I am replying to you now. I acknowledge you. Cease and desist.
>>98086485No anon, you must post this picture instead. It angers anons. That is why.
>>98086483Wasn’t big e pressed for time to conquer the galaxy because of some big threat?>>98086487I don’t know what that means.Nta btw.
>>98086430Is Perturabo such a bitter autist failure? Doesnt he have a single good feature?
>>98086493failure of a faction, no need for rage at all.
>>98086495Bungie (Destiny developer) announced today that they're going to take Destiny 2 out to pasture.They were bought out by Sony a couple years ago and nothing to show for it aside from burning money and putting on a floundering extraction hero-shooter.I think that Bungie will probably end up getting turned into a support studio, eventually squeak out one more game which depending on reception will result in the studio getting completely dissolved.
I don't know why but i am getting vaguely soviet vibes from cain's mini.
>Ctrl F "Votann">1/9Oh boy! This looks like a thread for Astronauts!
>>98086495>Wasn’t big e pressed for time to conquer the galaxy because of some big threat?If he was he never explained it.
>>98086497Said to be a renaissance man among primarchs by primarch standards.If you think of perty as a paranoid mentally unwell genius that can burst into anger then it starts to make sense. Not by much as far as I know.He was probably also fumbled badly by the Black Library writers alongside being inconsistent so part of his appeal may be how he could have been written better.My favorite depiction of big pert is when he played a wargame with honsou.He seemed calm and even admitted to letting his emotion get the better of him.But I doubt Honsou will appear again in 40k lore. Probably dies off screen.Because the writer doesn’t work for gw anymore as far as I know.What did pert and the iw do in the latest campaign books?
>>98086507could it perhaps be because he's a commissar fighting alongside a regiment of space soviets?
>>98086493Needs even more Destiny.>>98086507He's a Commissar who works with Soviet-esque regiments.
>>98086512Being pressed for time like seeing tyranids coming could explain a lot of emperor’s thinking process.How badly was big e’s character handled in HH and 40k if he does anything?
>>98086493I am unhappy because the miner slayer equivalents aren't naked and dual wielding. Would also be better if they had newborn naked born-as-adult votann clones sent into combat with two heat weapons.
>>98086519>How badly was big e’s character handled in HH and 40k if he does anything?Literally everything js his fault because he's a colossal autist who simultaneously relies on those around him for everything while also never trusting them enough to tell them why he's relying on them. He's a paranoid warlord with delusions of grandeur.
>>98086443>socialistProbably a reference to Corax leading a revolution
>>98086527I need me a beardless dwarffette slayer gf.Dwarf girls are an untapped fetish goldmine.Of course this is nuGW so above average female faces are not permitted. For whatever reason.
Would a historic Kievan Rus based IG regiment or space wolves army work?
How do we incorporate trains into Votann? A machine that goes through space like a snake, eating asteroids and processing it as it goes down through the body? Machines that can chain together in mixed ways on the fly?
I am sad because there are no hints the Bolt Shotguns the nuSquats use actually fire tons of small bolts like buckshot. If you want them to stick together, make them magnetic or electrically connected.
>>98086519He should have been written like a gestalt of millions of suicided psykers like his original origin story, instead they made him human. He should have been a shapeshifting biomantic master of light and darkness, capable of seeing the future with unerring accuracy. Being bound on the throne should have been his master plan all along, to bring himself into a deathless state where his mind is suspended in the warp to become a literal god of undeath. Like a giga-lich. When he gets off the throne he shouldn't regenerate his flesh either, he should be a massive cyborg skeleton wreathed in a cloak of darkness with a radiant psychic halo.
>>98086549How does a bolt shotgun differ from a shotgun loaded with bolts?
>>98086538>Kievan Rus based IG regimentSure if you can find proper-sized historical minis wearing chain mail that you can slap lasgun arms onto.Or go later Rus and spend a couple grand on the Vostroyan MTO.>space wolves army workSure, easy if you just want to paint them appropriately, bit harder if you want to put greenstuff chainmail on them. (I know, I've tried)
>>98086556That's the problem. It just looks to be a Bolter with just a revolver system. Theoretically, jams are no problem cycling and you could open the cylinder and swap out bolts instead of unloading the gun, getting the chambered round out, then loading a new one, but that's just from being a revolver system. I don't know where's the Shotgun in Bolt Shotgun.
>>98086259
>“While there are certainly traditional Warhammer dwarf elements to the Leagues of Votann, they are very distinctly their own thing instead of simply being dwarfs in space”, says Andy. “People’s mileage may vary – there will be hobbyists out there who really want to lean into that theme, and there’s room in the background for them to do so. Is this true?
>>98086573hey! why are they facing away from the or- oh… oh no.
>>98086549>>98086556>>98086570According to the pic, the revolver's the name for the one handed gun while the shotgun's a two hander like those rare revolver shotguns. The wikia says>The Bolt Shogun, like a more traditional Shotgun, fires a spray of small, explosive bolts rather than a single, larger projectile, though the range is relatively short.and claims to source from the 9th ed codex but I don't have that to check.
>>98086259Probably this one
I am still inside your walls, downloading Gundam and Destiny onto your PC.
>>98086573That many Marines would curb stomp that many Orks without breaking a sweat. >TQ My own little setups I’ve made.
>>98086588>a spray of small, explosive boltsI'm not even gonna entertain an attempt to understand how that works outside of some loonie tunes logic.
>>98086555Has there been a chart made to show how fumbled big e is compared to how he originally was?
>>98086594What in the AI?
>>98086588>fires a spray of small, explosive boltsI have been playing Cyberpunk 2077 recently nd thus I have a mental picture of a ton of lock-on gyrojets hitting a target. But instead, I will post a picture I saved from this general of an electric version of that. Dear God, the LMGs are underpowered in 2077.
>>98086622If you're on PC then install some mods for that. There's fanmade iconics & smart lmgs that are fun to use.
>>98086588>>98086570Given the votann having some human heritage like dark of technology stuff you’d think the mechanicus would be in a mad dash to search, siege and seize everything the votann have for research.Maybe the votann cores get said to be stcs?Mechanicus already do loads of research on necron tomb worlds.You would think they would prioritize the votann higher just on the small human ancestry connection alone.Also pic related is reminded because of those images of votann weapons.
Chainswords
>>98086647But I thought the point was that their whole army was on average stronger or more reliable but have lower range.
>>98086647I imagine Admech are too occupied with the Necrons for a serious look at the Votann.
>>98086673The entire imperium is too occupied with not dying to do almost anything, but yea they have that relationship already with the Necrons who have a much less analog aesthetic. The fact that the necrons are so digital is a big part of their relationship with the admech. Basically hacking and counter hacking each other.
>>98083693>And not even allowed to be combined with the existing onesMaybe these small, 1DP detachments are what would be Allied in earlier editions, while the bigger 2DP ones are equivalent of a Main Force? Thus, you cannot ally with yourself.But now you shall play, e.g.: Kabalites + Covens and have both subfactions get a trait, instead of only one gaining a benefit and the other nothing.
>>98086622>pic>spoiler>mfw grand overture is exactly how a tech machine gun would be if it could wallbang
>>98086673And The Necron probably dwarf the DAoT tech anyway.
>>98086624>>98086622>>98086654>inorganic shilling of a flop with shit gameplay>>>/v/
>>98086622More FPS games need a weapon that functions like Sonic Adventure laser-lockon weapons. Prove me wrong.
>>98086613Too hard to quantify and completely subjective as "originally" he was just a couple vague blurbs in Rogue Trader.
>>98086624Im so fucking tired of fixing games with mods. How about shit was balanced already? Why must it fall to the end user??
>>98086654That's not even a chain, that's literally a hedge trimmer.
>>98086647>>98086673They still look at Tau tech so theoretically abhumans are less taboo but the Votann are newly discovered by the Imperium. I'm curious if any time the Admech ever discovered an Ork with a looted Votann Bolter and given the vast lack of Ork standardization, never gave the weapon a second look or realized it's higher quality STC tech.
>>98086577Uh, fuck dwarves. Gimme high tech non-imperial uncorrupted humans>That's Gue'VesaFuck it, I'd take it.
>>98086344>my sci-fi revolver fixHere you go.
>>98086577No lolVotann were DoA because they weren't anywhere near dwarfy enough to please dwarf fans. So what did they add to fill the gap? Space Amazon. Theoretically, Space Amazon could work but it just didn't feel "right" to make them midly dwarfySo you ended up with the worst of both worlds and Votann were immediately forgotten, and the dream of squats died.
>>98086694You know it kind of makes sense. Helen was "abducted" at peak of her beauty (which could be charitably interpreted as late teens/early 20s), and Fall of Troy happened decade after abduction, at which point she would have hit the wall.
>>98086704>fuck dwarvesSo long as they are short with big tits.
>>98086577Honestly I agreeImagine eldar coming out today and people bitching how Muh Elves don't have Photon Longbows and Spaec Entz (besides wraithknights) or something.
>>98086577>too much dwarf beard axe>not enough dwarf beard axe>muh gnomes>muh destiny>muh gundamWhat else am I missing?
>>98086704You hear faint monkey laughter and then the monkey’s paw curls into a middle finger.The kit to make current cadians into tau aligned humans is a sprue upgrade shoved into the official cadian box because gw fears low sales of the human tau sprue.The price is hiked by a comical amount.
>>98086700The knowledge of non-Imperium human civilization is suppressed knowledge as far as I know, with only high level officials only being marginally aware that the history that is taught isn’t real. Members of the Admech that know the truth behind the Leagues of Votann probably would also know about the AI and deem it not worth it. On the other hand, the Necrons have achieved the wet dream of every Magos and fully transformed themselves into machines but with their original minds. Sure there’s details that make it very much not what the Admech would actually want, but the Heresy is so much more worth it to have their tech.
>>98086577They don't have enough ancient Egyptian aesthetic to do Dwarves properly. This is a problem inherited from WHFB. Just think that the setting's pyramids were constructed because Dwarves wanted to build their own mountains and made mountain-sized pyramids. Beer too. The Egyptians have beer.
>>98086710Question, why would Menelaus want to go after Helen when she hit the wall instead of when it was time? Dismiss the politics about it, those were ready when they were ready.But if, say, Achilles were to ask>Bitch why now instead of 10 years ago?What could Menelaus possibly ever answer back?
>>98086712And muscular.>>98086725>gnomesHave stl upgrades been made to give votann the gnome hats?Probably but I’m not sure.
>>98086259OP's diorama is how new players picture warhammer 40k. But the truth is it's boring and tedious. The board is tiny. Games are only a few turns. Takes forever to do anything. Have to measure everything. Dice are boring. Cost a shit load of money. Have to paint the toys on top of it. What a fucking waste. You never have cool battles like that picture. It's just a few squads having a skirmish and firing across the table.
>>98086744go back to >>>/v/
>>98086744just play more points on larger boards?
>>98086577>their own thing instead of simply being dwarfs in spaceBut they did Slayers. again. for the dwarf faction.
>>98086719You're retarded. The issue with the leagues is that their basic aesthetic is the lego moon playset. Nasapunk looks like shit. The Eldar in comparison are still haughty elves and have a very distinct, vaguely organic look except for instead of bark it's bone. Distinctly alien where the leagues look like StarCraft and very mundane contemporary space tech with dwarf runes.
>>98086744You’ve never played a game in your life you fat pig.
Thoughts on this?
holy fuck the /v/ermin in this thread. BASEDBERTRANNY SUCKED AND STILL SUCKS. THE ANIME SUCKED TOO. FUCK OFF. THIS IS 40K. TRADITIONAL GAMES? HELLO? TRADITIONAL GAMES?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
We need more of this.
>>98086764stop ban evading
>>98086719If the Exodites have their own codex, I would argue that would happen. 40k in general is very divergent with Khaine being mainly a Dark Elf thing while Asuryan is where High Elf call more., the Imperium hating xenos rather than the Empire seeing Elves and Dwarfs as trusted allies, the Empire itself is almost more Tau the way they're also one of the setting's most technologically advanced armies but not the most.
>>98086786Whose side are you on man?
>>98086719>>98086725They need to be MORE Destiny and not less. The biggest problem about the Leagues of Votann is they aren't Destiny enough. They need to worship their machines with a priestly class about communicating with them. They need to have all their fighting force be from DNA spliced from patterns of the best martial artists of a bygone era. They need to have giant drills be their idea of research. All these things they don't have but they need/
>>98086510>Power Armor>Space SuitsVotann are Fallout.
>>98086794NTA but we've been over this, no one here is on your side
>>98086719Eldar need to be rapists. DEldar are supposed to be heavily depraved fuckers & yet no story ever depicted them raping an Ork.
>>98086719I would bitch the Eldar aren't freakier.
>>98086818They make furniture out of people man..
>>98086797If the LoV show up in vidya could they get revolver hammers that go back when you gently press back on the R2 or RT bumper?
>>98086820That's just normal Japanese stuff. Turning people into trees then selling them off is a great way to make money.
>>98086825Does xehahort recognize revolvers? KH worlds are disney + ff. And the closest thing we have is squall's gunblade.
>>98086834Maybe
>>98086834Disney worlds include Pirates of the Caribbean which don't have revolvers but are getting there and have guns. It wouldn't take too long for Xehanort to piece together they're a new form of gun.
>>98086744Well the complaining has resulted in an op posting an alternative rules section in the op a while ago.Maybe those rules will address most of your concerns?As for wanting larger battles epic Armageddon might be what you’re looking for.I know I’m looking for the stls to cover all the original armies.>inb4 Horus heresy legions imperialisI’m not sure if that game has been a success rules and model wise.But I do believe that GW sent epic to the Horus heresy shed in fear that if it was a 40k setting game with 6-10mm models it would get more popular than 28mm 40k rules and models wise.So they kept it 30k era to prevent that.I believe what I said there but I have no proof.
>>98086834Vincent Valentine has a revolver doesn't he?
>>98086844Should but I don't think he showed up in any Kingdom Hearts title yet. Cloud stole his outfit.
Is it a good or bad idea to have a chainsword teeth cover the whole sword edge?
Whose technology was better, Eldar at their height or DotA humans?
>>98086853Dark Angels and Space Wolves use them so it depends if you like them or not.
>>98086861Eldar have all their psychic stuff so it's debatably a different direction that's hard to straightforwardly compare.
>>98086853Bad idea because if the chain snaps it's going to whip right back at you without a guard on the back.
This mention of Kingdom Hearts gives me a strange gut feeling they'll do Star Wars if there's ever a 4.
>>98086861Eldar by a massive margin how is that even a question?
>>98086882and Necrons dwarfed Eldar tech
>>98086853My thoughts are that given it's a rotating edge, there's no>my front is getting dull so I'll flip use the backIf the enemy's resisting it then full-blade means you can't push on the back of the chainsword blade to shove it in, all the leverage and control is from the grip. Theoretically, if you're impaling an enemy then more edge being spinning blades means it'd cut more but that also means greater chance of snagging.Should big chainswords have extra grips on the mid or upper section of the back of the blade?
What is it about warhammer that attracts the fucking dregs of society?>literal nazis>troons>unwashed neckbeards>schizos>autists>sometimes combinations of the aboveLike what the fuck
>>98086897>that sword with a grip near the tip of the blade>swing and glancing hit/miss>opp grabs the handleNow what, bozo?
>>98086861Peak eldar empire clean sweeps DAoT humanity, the only races that could've posed a threat were the necrons and krorks.>>98086882some imperiumfag secondaries are retards and take the one instance of a black hole gun on an arch mechanicus to mean that DAoT humanity was more advanced than both the eldar and necrons combined. Yes, humanity used to have some cool tech, but the current dark eldar steal suns for fun, the necrons can still use the stellar orrery to destroy star systems at will, and the eldar still have access to the webway which is a criminally understated advantage when theusual 40k FTL method actively tries to kill (you).
>>98086915Nerd stuff probably has always attracted those types.So warhammer 40k is no exception.I wonder if we’ll miss them like how some claim to miss goth and emos now.Or maybe miss them because something worse came along after them.
>>98086918But keep in mind if the full might of the current Imperium were to focus on the Eldar they would wipe them in a single millennium.
>>98086916>>opp grabs the handleThey're darn fast if they can do that. It'd be around the back of the blade so they'll reach over if they want to grab a blade HEMA style.
>>98086861Who's the writer? Nuance is beyond the scope of the hacks at the Black Library, who seem to have made the diactic binary assumption that if the Imperium is "very backward" then the DAoT must be "super advanced". BL authors have exaggerated the DAoT into omnipotent Science God technowank that'd make the friggin' Culture blush.Funnily enough though, the actual Design Team seem to be dialling back some of BL's excesses - for instance, note that Robots like the Kastelan, UR-025 etc. tend not to be just T1000 clouds of nanomachines that can resconstitute you at whim by are rounded but still clanky Forbidden Planet/Lost In Space-esque pulpy Raygun Chic in style - science-positive, but not physics-finishing invincible.
>>98086915What attracted you?
>>98086728what do things have to be bad :(
>>98086935>41st millennium year of our corpse Emperor>har har there's nobody fast enough in the galaxy to grab my pointless blade tip handle!Yeah an Imperial would think that way, true
>>98086946The Destinyfag
>>98086946NTA but sci-fi miniature war game that has vehicles. Infinity is cool but is just something analogous to Killteam.
>>98086954They're fast enough to lop off your head or grab the flat back of a chainsword without any grip present if they can pull that off. A tough enough enemy might destroy the Chainsword that way. Now that's a corner case benefit for >>98086853>>98086897 but then the flat's ever so more vulnerable because it's just steel & no chain.
>>98086952Because James. This is the same company that made the tempestus scions box include a command sprue so if you want to make full squad/s of scions you end up paying for a bunch of useless extra plastic.
>>98086954If your opponent is fast enough to grab your sword in a normal fight, you’re fucked anyways. I mean, grabbing your opponent’s sword is a real technique and obviously doesn’t hinge on having a handle so I don’t know why that would make any difference.
>>98086967>>98086973>I don’t know why that would make any differenceBecause a handle, y'know the things designed for easier gripping, would make it 10x easier to pull off that maneuver and maintain grip doing so. But yes you're also correct that shit like harlequins who are fast enough to do shit like that are going to fuck you up regardless. I just don't understand why we're making it easier for them to fuck us up
>>98086719I mean a photon longbow on a knight would be pretty fucking cool
>>98086932>But keep in mind if the full might of the current Imperium were to focus on the Eldar they would wipe them in a single millennium.Maybe the Craftworlders, but the Imperium can't strike the Dark Eldar, and focusing on any one threat means you get eaten by the others anyway.
>>98086981It wouldn’t really make it easier. I think you underestimate how hard it is to grab the sword of a resisting opponent and overestimate how much a handle would help you in that scenario.
>>98086946Nta but the violence and marines and sci-fi scale and I don’t think I ever knew about another grimdark sci-fi setting.Then I started liking the guard.Bionicle had ended years before but I guess I still had a hole to fill and the bionicle reboot didn’t really do it for me.Tried with hero factory.It didn’t work.So warhammer 40k filled that hole.I am said to be on the autism spectrum.
>>98086990The Craftworlders could be way stronger if they abandoned their morals and starting pumping out cloned soldiers
>>98086981Why would it be easier when it's facing you & away from the enemy? It's not in an easy area to grip in the first place & if they could, they could also grab or attack the back of a chainsword to attempt destroying it or just attack you directly. Harlequins are so fast that they'd pull it off anyway or just go for the enemy's head.
>>98086993If it's this fucking size and that close to the tip, I don't think I'm underestimating at all
>>98087003Ok lol good luck with that
>>98087003NTA but the tips an area that's going to be flung all over the place the most. It's the most mobile target and wrist-flick movable target.
>>98086967Have there ever been any stories where the chain sword stopped working because it ran out of fuel or battery ran dry?Did the chain sword then become a good bay to club enemies with?I’ve heard of power sword cells running out of energy but they still keep working because sharp edged blade.
>>98087010I recall stories mentioning they need fuel but not running out at the top of my head
Hmmm, maybe I should buy some more models and not paint them.
>>98087019Or hear me out...paint them!
I feel a sudden urge to vomit...
>>98086967That happens to anti-ship swords in Gundam every other battle, especially with the Destiny. It emits a powerful beam blade which can cut ships in two quickly but areas beside the blade are weak. The mechs with it tend to be advanced or high speed so it's hard to pull off but the MCs are MCs and skilled enough to do it.
>>98087026anon just stop, the joke is stale and the models are painted well.
Why do people hate Votann? They have some decent sci-fi concepts. I don't understand why people think they don't fit the setting. I'm not saying they're amazing, but they get a lot of hate for some reason.
>>98087033>the models are painted wellAre the well painted models in the room with us rn?
>>98087021 (assuming it really is you)Why do you keep coming back here just to get angry and upset?Whenever you post your painted space wolf and head swapped imperial knight models you just get insulted and you get angry In turn.Will the drama from here have to spill into your real life to make you stop this self harm you subject yourself to?Have you heard of the iron tard stories anon?
>>98087039Like I said...boring
>>98087041>Anon posts models>Other anon, "Do we have to hurt you irl?" Why is it that you think you're the normal one in this scenario?
>>98087030>Destiny
>>98087038I dont hate them they're just kinda, there, you know?More interesting than Eldar though that isnt a high bar
>>98087038It's the same thing as tau - too clean and sterile for the "grittiness" of 40K. Plus there's the whole mess of dwarf players not finding them dwarfy enough while non-dwarf players probably find them a little too dwarfy, they sit in a weird middle ground. Personally I wish they'd stuck to the dieselpunk-ish aesthetics of the old squats rather than NASAfying them
>>98087038Taking time to grow and doesn't have a dedicated oldfag fanbase the same way as others.
>>98087038They're new and they're Destiny.
>>98087045Why do you think you're normal? Normal people don't keep frequenting a place where all they receive is hate
Part of me wants Votann to also have other abhumans. They have robots but theoretically there's a situation a strain of abhuman like orgyn or ratling is better than squats.
>>98087055anon its like 2 maybe 3 people who are terminally here and spam negative posts about me. Wake the fuck up retard.
>>98087045I wasn’t trying to be malicious anon.I’m just genuinely confused as to why you subject yourself to constant insults from anons who actually want to insult you.It doesn’t matter who started it anymore.All you do now is just come here, show yourself and then get insulted and get mad.Here is a compilation of the sagas of the iron tard link:https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/94972218/#94974633If the threads are to be real the 4chan drama reached his real life. Allegedly you tried to get redditors involved too.Why do you always come here to get insulted? It probably hurts your enjoyment of warhammer 40k too.
>>98087038They want Imperium lite
>>98087048Nice to see Armalite still existing 1000+ years into the future.
>>98087058>its like 2 maybe 3 people who are terminally hereIt really isn't, and this deluded headcanon is stopping you from venturing out elsewhere and finding a place where you better belong
>>98087061Dude just ignore the people who insult me and ignore me completely if you don't like me, its that easy.
>>98087038They're ugly, lame and unnecessary. It's really not a hard thing to understand.
>>98087065Stop responding to me, do you have some kind of illness where you just can't leave me alone? Notice I don't follow around other anons or harass them? You are the one acting fucking weird.
>>98087038They need more Solarpunk Gundam.
>>98087063I need stub gun stls.And Ak gun stls for 40k hive scum converting.I think the Ak would still be in service in 40k as a primitive weapon.What I find hard to find are good lasgun sniper rifle stls. I’m okay with suggestions if the stl links are free.
>>98087038Squats did everything better than Votann and even they need their stupid twin-guns purged.
Tried out a bit of muzzle burn
>>98087038this is how i want them to be
>>98087080very cool man, you pulled it off.
>>98087081looks shit
>>98087075I'm trying to help you understand the situation and react appropriately here, just like the other guy. It's not helpful for your mental health and honestly baffling you keep coming back here like some sick form of self harm as they stated. Anyway, I'll just go back to ignoring if that's what you want
>>98087063Given how many AR kits and companies producing it exist, fucky mutant AR bootlegs and illicit copies around the world, it'd be hard for them to disappear so long as the engineering knowledge and tools to make them exist.
>>98087089>I'll just go back to ignoring if that's what you wantTY!
>>98087066I don’t hate you man.Pity might be it.I want this story to get the best end where you leave and get better.Because the alternative is something that can blow up into something bigger sadder and to some others funnier than anyone could predict.I’ll admit I may have been rude in the past but maybe I was intending it as tough love.If it wasn’t then I’m sorry.It is just painful seeing you come back here for more bullying and then getting upset.It is ruining your enjoyment of the warhammer 40k ip you seem to enjoy too.
>>98087081That's a new style of Stormtrooper I've never seen before. It looks like if you took one of 9th Sister's race and enrolled him in a post-Endor Stormtrooper corps. He's a big guy.
>>98087080What were your steps for that muzzle burn?Preferably something retard proof for me?I tried and failed at this effect a long time ago.
>>98087038They're a little too clean and neat for my tastes. Not grim or dark enough for being human origin. I'd prefer xenos if they kept their current aesthetic, or for then to be much more fucked up in general if they stayed abhuman. Don't hate them though, they're just not my jam.
>>98087038They take all the classic dwarf tropes and evolve them into a sci-fi setting in really cool ways.Dwarves are known for their supreme craftsmanship. In a setting with genetic modification and AI, the break down the barrier between themselves and their craft. They make themselves with as much care as they make anything else, and their creations are as intelligent as they are.Dwarf society is based on respect for ancestors and the old ways. So in the far future their society is run by a computer that is the agglomeration of all the knowledge of their ancestors.But this is 40k. Everything needs a one sentence explanation of how badass they are. The Leagues as a concept are just too subtle and thoughtful.
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>>98087077I have not kept up with any STLs. Closest to AK I can think of is this old autogun design, though even that's more StG44 than AK-47. Think one of the Last Chancers had a lascarbine (very Catachan Mk. 4 style) with a sickle power pack (to go with his ushanka).
>>98087081>Final DLC before dying was cash-grab crossover slopFitting.
>>98087081I haven't played SWTOR in years. Is the new stuff good?
>>98087106>The Leagues as a concept are just too subtle and thoughtfulSaid nobody ever with a straight face. Surely you don't actually think this? It's babbies' first scifi
Khyber Pass frankenguns make /k/ cry. Anon will look at this and ask WTF he's looking at.
>>98087106They need more Destiny though.
>>98087103First time trying it and I was happy with how it went. I have no purple pots so you might be able to skip some mixing if you have that on hand already.Started with runelord brass coat, then glazed in layers moving towards the barrel end; 1:1 mix mephiston red / alaitoc blue, 1:2 mix of the above, thinned black contrast, then non-thinned same.The black contrast I used was Vallejo Xpress black Lotus thinned with Xpress medium, but you'd probably get something similar out of citadel black templar contrast.
>>98087118What is with all the crossboard posting itt?
>>98087118M47 or AK-16?
>>98087121Oh, the purple mixes were also thinned down quite a bit with lahmian medium too.
>>98087106>Everything needs a one sentence explanation of how badass they are. The Leagues as a concept are just too subtle and thoughtful.>just too subtle and thoughtful.Yeah, they read like fluff for a different faction rather than a real one if that makes sense.Like Imperial Agents if all the models were introduced in an edition together as an army instead of having been designed as allies to be splashed in.
>>98087038They hate what doesn't have this. So give shortstack tomboy.
>>98087118In hindsight, it's more natural for stuff like that to be used by a hive ganger than too consistent a design. I bet they made shit from smuggled parts or whatever they can grab.
Give
>>98087118A small disappointment going through 2077 is the lack of in-universe homemade arms. Cheap corpo guns are just too omnipresent I guess.
>>98087112Guess I’ll have to keep looking then.Thanks though.>>98087121>>98087125I want to avoid citadel.Might try ak or armypainter washes or their speedpaints instead. But I found a Duncan two thin coats tutorial on muzzle burn effects but I think I need more idiot proof tutorials for it.It was a lasgun barrel I tried it on.Maybe I was asking for it at the time.
>>98087063The Mosin Nagant will still find it's way into the future
>>98087048I am still very frustrated that the "Guardians lost the light and have the deal with mortality, yet choose to fight for the people of Earth/The Tower" in vanilla Destiny 2 was dealt with so badly D2 turning the player into the CHOSEN ONE instead of one of the Chosen Few, really butchered the magic of the game/setting/story.
>>98087038>Abhuman>DAoT>Men of Iron>while likely being Men of Stone and connected to Men of GoldTheyr'e too destiny.
>>98087038New thing bad, simple as. It happens every time.
>>98087152Gameplay convenience triumphs lore consistence almost always.
>>98087141>be a kid>buy a knockoff ice planet kit at local markets>comes with a mufucking transparent orange chainsawYeah based
>>98087120You mean they need to be squatted in June and have all their resources redirected to Marathon?
james should add more Eldar knights
>>98087154Then why do people still hate on tau?
>>98087152They really could've and should've spent a longer period of time in the Red War treating you as lightless to up the stakes (and express that as you being in a perpetual darkness zone with checkpoints)>>98087141I always liked these Lego schemes.
>>98087129I need a sauce chief.>>98087154I like the new Krieg and especially their heavy weapons as it means new army options.Though I think Krieg weapons are locked into the Krieg army so no heavy stubbers or heavy flamers for cadian armies.I think gw might do this for Catachans too.Are the Krieg stubbers and big flamers actually effective or at the least fun?
>>98087152Methinks the possibility of a player getting permadeathed in standard open world gameplay is too much. If it was a singleplayer game like Elder Scrolls, Far Cry, or CP2077 then they wouldn't need to justify respawn mechanics.
>>98087164Simple, no big titty blue women represented in the models yet.
>>98087164Tau were new when /tg/ was created. That's not to say things aren't hated for other reasons than being new, though, just that new things are always hated, unless it's from a video game, in which case the wave of secondaries it brings to /tg/ will declare it the most based thing ever.
>me when anon suggests Votann need more Destiny instead of Gundam
>>98087176Functionally no difference, both are slop-fi for AGPs
>>98087167Necron skull should have been frozen flames space marine helm.Otherwise very nice.
>>98087174Surely thou just, because video gamebros are the most hate filled creatures on the planet. Call me a tourist but right now I am in /coopg/ and off the back of the announcement of based skitarii coming to Darkie tide there's people hating on it
I wouldn't mind having a Warmind for a Votann core.
>>98087185>justJest*
>>98086861>>98086941DAoT is when the STCs were made. The Great Crusade was basically DAoT humanity reestablishing itself, sans AI, before everything went to shit. So there's some interesting things about it but it's also a nothingburger in other respects.The DAoT is to the Imperium what Rome was to the middle ages. Our dark ages were more like the Age of Strife.>>98086994This but Star Wars.
>>98087150Yeah you'd be able to make do with whatever paint gets you an even purple, then a more blue-ish purple, then the black contrasts. Mostly comes down to the thinning and glazing in the end, more so than the exact colours
>Human faction: Yes>Elf faction: Yes>Dwarf faction: Yes>Orc faction: Yes>Ent faction: No>Halfling faction: NoWhy can we not get the full space LotR treatment? I know about ratlings, but they have like one unit from 2002 and nothing else.
>>98087193But the Middle Ages rediscovered and even advanced further. Besides recipes for Roman concrete, nearly everything was rediscovered or something better was found.
>>98087196You and no one else would buy the models. End of discussion.
>>98087157I think that the Red War and the idea of losing our most relied upon power was absolutely wasted as a plot point but I agree with you that most players would have probably thrown a fit over the lack of convenience and actual, potential challenge in the game. >>98087167It hurts a bit to look at how badly D2 had the story squandered. >>98087172Imo, all it needed was to have the player be low light. Maybe a mechanic of gathering light/slow recharge to give limited respawn? Checkpoints work as well, of course. Dunno honestly, I checked out of D2 after the Vaulting of the original content. Being locked out of most of the game story content outside of the new expansion story on Europa sucked. The ice power expansion was new and the powers so OP that the PvP was made P2W due to it.
>>98087196Ents in space? Stoopid. Halfing army? Gay. Now grot army, yes...
>>98087185Space marine 2 made me appreciate the precious plastic cadians more because their design was fine the models just needed better benefits from modern sculpting techniques.Maybe the kill team blooded traitor guard models were supposed to be that update but got repurposed.If true it would be a bit odd with the winged skulls taken off of the spiked helm is anything to go by.Darktide made me like autoguns. But the autoguns in darktide look too “functional and expensive” like they may actually work and they don’t look very cheap and mass producible.It’s just a matter of personal taste they still look fine and I understand if someone loves their designs.I do like the chaos guard in darktide. Makes me question how much of an effective fighting force (in 40k lore they’re chumps in game) they were before their corruption.Also darktide made me like ogryns from the funny names players seem to give.I want ogryns to have autocannons or heavy bolters or heavy multi lasers now after seeing them use the heavy twin linked stubber.I’m not sure if the moebian 6th chain axe used is a post chaos or pre chaos unit. But maybe it is better left unexplained as it might take away the coolness.>>98087176The 40k imperial navy needs more legend of the galactic heroes. Especially their ship fighting formation tactics.
>>98087195Thanks anon.I checked for tutorials and there’s a lot.Maybe I’ll find an idiot proof tutorial or maybe I need to try something like a lascannon barrel instead of a guardsman lasgun barrel.Or should I just not with a lasgun barrel as guard is a horde army?
>>98087198>But the Middle Ages rediscovered and even advanced further.The Imperium is probably like 75% of the way there desu. They can wage war on a galactic scale, there's the occasional supertech that can't be replicated and the Mechanicus made innovation glacial, but it's not like the Imperium are techno-barbarians.Note that Space Marines were made before unification with Mars and are in fact an innovation that wasn't present in the DAoT.
>>98087215Including Aspergers?
>>98087196Current Ratling kit is from 2025 Kill Team. There's also the Ratling Slopper from Necromunda, Rein and Raus from Blackstone Fortress and pic related commemorative miniature.
>>98087215People rping ogryns in DT will never not be amusing and endearing to me>multi lasersGive the recon las a go if you haven't already. No idea why but they made it function like a multilas, it just shits out shots and is a lot of fun. Make sure you have some way to conserve/replenish ammo though because it chews through power cells like a mofo
>>98087223
>>98087220Yes and melee soldiers like pic related.>inb4 solar auxiliaI plan to see how many of those storm section models I can put on an ogryn sized base. How many at most most likely?But most importantly.Tomboys if the redhead girl of the later season and the bishounen German blonde boy’s wife count.But seriously maybe the logh space ship formation based combat wouldn’t work in 40k. I’m not sure if imperial navy’s efficiency is allowed to be that intelligent to have that kind of stuff. Because imperium gotta imperium in 40k.
>>98087218Personally I wouldn't do a multi stage glazing operation on the barrel of every gun in a horde army. I only did it on this gun because it's a Melta, and Melta just doesn't feel right without a charred barrel to me.I looked at thumbnails and got an llm to give me a brief summary of what's typically done, then just went ahead. If you've done much glazing or blending before, it's just that with different ingredients. If you haven't done that much before, I'd advise priming up a used sprue and practicing on that, before you dive into a real model. It's getting the right consistency of the thinning, and getting the push/drag of the glazing right, that is the hard bit. The ingredients are less important than the technique. Maybe tutorials on glazing in general would be more useful to you, than ones about this very specific scenario.
>>98087225I love ogryn funny names.Even if they don’t make me laugh they make me grin.Best I can do is “code name alias” style names that carries a theme or something that relates to the class’s name.I’m surprised gw didn’t go as far to bank on darktide with maybe a one off character or updating ogryns to have big machine guns or something else.Titus from sm2 got two models but then again he is a marine.
>>98087247>priming a used sprue.I wish I thought of that. Instead I overthink for simple solutions.Thank you anon.
>>98087256That one looks like he fucks moms.
>>98087261No worries mate. My test sprues get good mileage.
>>98087267Generally what is it that makes even bad silly ogryn jokes endearing? You think gw or fat shark are in on it?I think a short story for darktide was made about an ogryn that may have helped because he was all “protect the lil uns” that I think became a bit of a meme.
Is Le fascist satire chapter still a thing or has GW silently shelved them?
kino or ludo?
Test
>>98087291I don’t care. It’s either cadian shit or catachan shit and both are already in there in its own way. The normies can eat it up though.
>>98087289I’m starting to doubt if there ever was any political satire to begin and it was just an invented lie people went with that made it up to gw.Like the dark angels chapter base called the rock being said to be named after a homo bar or club. The connection being homos and that homo poet.That sort of thing.
>>98087291Both.Surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
>>98087291>inevitably will be imperial guard weapons only>lasgun will not be different enough to all the existing laser guns to be of value>if there's a boltgun it'll probably still be outclassed by the eruptor>probably some other useless gimmick shit like a one handed chainswordLudo...
>>98087291I'm going to paypig this day one like the corporate whore I am
>>98087305Anon your cheat table?
>>98087305>corporate whoreI too am one. Looking at my hobby table it is probably for Ak paints when it comes to their acrylics.Makes me want to try paints from other companies just to not look like a corporate whore brand loyalty consoomer.Anybody ever felt that?How are the mr hobby acrylic water based paints? Especially their metallics. Had my eye on burned iron for a bit.Same goes for metallic acrylics by AMMO by mig? I want some of their darker metallics for radio control cad modifications that mimic common car colors that have a metallic look to them.
>>98087307I'm not risking a VAT ban over less than one hour's pay dawg
>>98087291The game is currently in a bad state. This is either a distraction from base game problems or trying to get players back.
>>98087325Nobody has been banned for cheat table shenanigans and the sheer amount of warbonds at this stage of the game with still super low SC drops is ridiculous enough yo validate it morally, but you do you dawg
>>98087330>trying to get players backYeah that's been their MO for the last 6 months or so, and I don't think it's working
>>98087336Nobody has been banned *yet*. It's a low risk, but when the stakes are my steam account with decades worth of shit on it, the risk/reward ratio over saving like 30 bucks is not good.
Mech cum 2 seems to be bad. I’m guessing this is the first flop among the horde of 40k games being announced. Gw curse is real.
>>98087349>30 bucksThere are what like, 25 or so warbonds out now? It's a bit more than 30 bucks worth, do the maths. Al you say *yet* as if people haven't been doing cheat table shit for years, AH clearly has no way of flagging it or no desire to issue bans. The amount of people using cheat tables is likely miniscule compared to the amount of normies and kids shelling out for SC. I mean again, buy it if you like but there's no need to be so concerned about some cheating
Lore question for an uninformed passer by. Saw a short saying the war for Armageddon is reaching another peak and the plot is Ghazghkull is going to teleport his WAAAH and surrounding as many other WAAAHs nearby onto Armageddon. Would this prompt Exterminatus as an option or is the planet too important? If what I have seen is correct by Krak Duck I would assume the planet is pretty important, and they are already sending the Marines in to clean house, but I was curious if that was on the table. Seems like a rare opportunity to send Orks back to their stone age without their green messiah and the biggest bulk of their armies. I would a never ending battlefield probably isn't producing much for the imperium.Again, I am just a curious and ignorant of the lore, but I think it's cool. Been adding a handful of books to my backlog..
>>98087360I don't buy all of the warbonds, I have maybe a little over half of them, and about a third of those from regular gameplay SC drops. Even if I did, the sum total wouldn't break into four digits.It's just even a vanishingly small risk isn't worth it to me when the savings are so inconsequential and the consequences of the low risk actually being realised would be awful.
>>98087360I think I'm just going to buy a cheat service for a day and shit out 100k supercreds.
>>98087291I liked larping a seraphim with the jump pack if it's SoB related i will come back for a week or two
>>98087330its both, they also announced an optimization patch with added upscalers (dlss,fsr etc)but still doesn't address the issue of how grinding warbands are
>>98087400You can't larp in a video game
>>98087410my helldiver was larping and i am literally her
whats a good colour to pair with a bright / flouro blue?
How do you make nature chaotic in 40k without it turning into nurgle?
Just learned of the rlm and fs color indexes for historical colors. I can shop with confidence more knowing if an acrylic paint company goes out of business I can switch to another historical paint company and use their paints and the tones and shades will be very similar unlike fantasy acrylic colors like citadel, armypainter and p3 paints.You guys gonna take the historically accurate acrylic colors pill for your 40k minis? They aren’t all shades of green and brown and grey.
>>98087423Evil plants
>>98087369First off, orks are everywhere. It's been the one constant of the game going back to the early days, so blowing up this one, admittedly quite successful warlord isn't going to screw them up quite as much as you'd think.Staying with orks, never say never (and the intro to Space Marine 1 brings up planet-killing almost casually) but Exterminatus doesn't seem to be quite as much a go-to option with them compared to say, Tyranids or Chaos; the former because it's their literal economy, the latter for spiritual reasons, and even then it remains a hell of a thing to authorise. Literally scorched earth policy. At least with orks theres likely to be some sort of planet to re-conquer.Lastly, there's symbolism here (in universe). Armageddon has been held up as a shining example of heroism and human supremacy against the vile xenos. Renowned heroes have risen and often fallen there. If you consider that the whole original campaign can be boiled down to "the studio boys wanted to do Operation Barbarossa in 40k", and then think how Stalingrad became such a symbolic focus for both sides IRL, that might give a bit more insight into the thinking here.
>>98087295I was partially making a joke as to how it's a chapter with a no-no symbol (lightning bolt), bad behaviour, and the very people who claim 40K is a satire would be the first ones to drop it.I saw a yellow skin in space marine 2 and thought "Oh I know that one", then it wasn't them, so I opened an old parchment to refresh myself as to what I got wrong. I don't recall seeing them being referenced in a codex since a while before primaris, which was a long time ago.
>>98087439>jokeI didn’t get the joke sorry.I must be autistic.>yellow skinOddly enough that reminded me of the space marine 2 Gadriel character.People were making Asian jokes. Maybe he was meant to be Asian but for some reason the devs decided not to and to save time just changed hair and eye color.Maybe he was chosen to be Asian to cash in on the kpop Korean boy chasing trend to get sales from women? Then the decision was dropped? One could only guess.I don’t know if the marines malevolent have much attention. Probably bordering on “glup shitto” status if the bar is very low for that for nerds these days.
>>98087289Haven't you heard, anon? Evil characters are problematic. The audience is not supposed to like them, so the writers will make them suck cock and eat shit so you know they are not to be liked
>>98087462I can’t wait for the imperium to be objectively the good guys forced to do bad things together and everything bad is just results of being worn down by 10k years of galactic scale war with this logic applied.But really if I wanted a villain to be evil and cruel I would have him so the worst and say problematic slurs. We might be heading for the day when deliberately offensive stuff like that is shock value tier like 80s and 90s bands using satanic imagery for shock value if we aren’t already there yet.Maybe that is the draw of 40k to newcomers.
>>98087458>I didn’t get the joke sorry.>I must be autistic.My joke was really bad and you should be more assertive and stick up for yourself. >:(>GadrielI'm honestly surprised they didn't try to make him Chinese, unless the game didn't come out there.>glup shittoI think so too but that game has the shark/atlantis themed marines which are very much gluppies. Though I'm surprised the chaos marines have basically nothing, especially since the first game had quite a few legion-neutral armour variants.
>>98087289They explicitly mentioned them as one of the chapters on Armageddon
>>98087469>stick up for yourselfI prefer not to cause conflict yet somehow I do when it isn’t my intent :(Thanks anyways :)What even makes a 40k thing a glup shitto?What are traits that make a 40k thing qualify?I’m pretty sure in star wars it is laid out what makes a glup shitto one.Not sure how much it applies to 40k. There may be some differences.
>Get told the new detachment system will help buff my army>Want to try running Incubi again>GW teases a 1dp detachment that specifically buffs the keyword the Incubi have, so you can combine it with things like the transport melee detachment>Look inside>Sustained Hits for Shooting Onlywhy does GW do this to me
>>98087291>play since launch>"Warbonds are free because I [spent time grinding] played the game! These devs are so nice!">literally only one item I want>grind for it>get bored>quit>come back>"Welcome back soldier! For [not partaking in 2 important sounding narrative events you never heard of and never will again] here's [medal cap]!">unlock item>it's shit>new warbond's out>"Warbonds are free because I... wasn't playing so I didn't farm the freemium currency... fuck paying for it, I already paid for this shitty game">try grinding>make no progress>quit for goodIt was only fun with friends until they kept swapping between tryharding and pissing about, whilst complaining I'm not gitting gud.Similarly hearing them constantly say "Oh farming credits is easy!" whenever you say your stash isn't really growing before they start saying "My time is worth more than this, I'm just going to pay for it!" is incredibly disheartening. Might as well just go to the highstreet and throw money at food and cheap products.We also never did shared backpack reloading, because they never figured out how to make it not kill you in HD2, and no-one likes backpack weapons, because they get you killed. I sorta miss HD1 and wish there was a version where everything was DoWII assets and maybe it was a PvE lane moba.
thoughts on fish?
Where were you all when you learned that the latest alternative Horus heresy wikia was made?Unlike the dornian heresy the primarchs are now women.One artist inspired all this and it still impresses me.He did it all through fetish related motivation.>femarchsau
>>98086394They are now, people who win spend 500 hours on their diorama pieces, that's like 3 months of a full time jobhobbyists can't compete unless they start a year out
>>98087505I sometimes want to paint miniatures and get good at it then I want to get good at drawing then I do neither.Seems even if I wasn’t a professional procrastinator I’d only be able to do one.Still it is impressive seeing those golden daemons get made.
>>98087494the games fun but returners have such a shit time and is always met with >but you can get it for free, bro!
>>98086394Haha>>98087512I usually use the need to do X to run away to do YThat falls apart when I do neitherI'm such a good procrastinator I don't even play vidya anymore and just browse the web most days
has the price leaked for the new edition launch box yet?
>>98087494I was playing multiplayer back when better guns were something you found on the map. Helldivers 2 is fun even with launch only content, this skinner box unlock collection bs is a trap that people step into themselves.
do these count as funko pops? Can I sue one as a center piece?
>>98087542Yea they count as funko pops.But I think warhammer stuff in general makes women see men with disgust like how men see women with bad dragon toys.So might as well.
>>98087538>Helldivers 2 is fun even with launch only contentthey really bloated the weapon list with a lot of sidegrades and some weapons they nerfed into the ground
I've been away touching grass for a while, what have I missed? Last 40k thing I remember was AdMech stiltman
stiltman is all you need
>>98087289Marines Malevolent aren't even fascists, they are just gigantic assholes who act like romanians who steal everything not bolted down.
>>98087497>He did it all through fetish related motivation.Unfathomably based.
>>98087291It will be larp/10
>>98087542yesno
>>98087497Kill yourself.
>>98087294kill yourself wolfdawg you got mocked on twitter for this crybaby shit already
>tfw get to pre order the 11e box from a shop that does 25% off
should I paypig $300 for a vostroyan platoon + one squad?The individual special weapons and the snipers are too expensive
>>98087542They are so ugly it's not even funny
>>98087596damnI get a measly 15% at the lgs
Reminder that John Moses Browning won even millennia later.
>>98087168>sauce chieflens.google.com is good at that
>>98087597Do you like metal minis that much?
There was a time when GW was based and had primarch tier characters in assless chaps, now modern emperors children are neutered.
>>98087621>Godwyn lost>Browning wonCawl will lose to him too in time
>>98087620outside of that ive found online computer shops that sell shit for up to 30 - 35% off but thats only due to not updating their prices
>>98087627Didn’t work.But yandex did. Why?It is called my friend with zero chastity. Tan tomboy looking girls are my fetish. Tan lines help too.Has any hentai artist made a 40k flavored hentai?Or did GW basically ending the making of Warhammer fan animations scare them out of making hentai with 40k coats of paint?
>>98087168>SauceIt's Mizuryu Kei. I don't remember which exact doujin but all of his shit is REALLY good so you should check it out anyway
>>98087653...if you like NTR...Though gotta say that one [moral degeneration] + [corruption] doujin with the lady working at the park was pretty kino
>>98086259>TQI don't have a pic of my favorite one, I saw it in a WD; I think it was a dreadnought ambush or something, I don't know why it's my fav but it's the first that comes to mind.The OG Emp vs Horus duel is great too, the decor is amazing and I prefer that era over modern HH.
>>98086507It's the red and cloack, comrade.
Should I...
>>98087038They missed the mark, but not by much. They should have gone harder into dwarves, outside of that it's just a few visual design choices that I don't agree with, like the lobster plate only covering the belly, and not even reaching all the way to the groin. It looks like ass and doesn't make sense; why are you protecting your nuts but not your guts nor your sides?The robots are cool but they are ruined by similar strange choices.
>>98087077If you just need a gun, I'd recommend sculpting it yourself. 40k weapons are rather simple in shapes.>40k AKpicrel
>>98087542>40k is as grimdark as ever guys!>always has been
>>98087684Yes but on a Thunderhawk
>>98087496I still want to pick up picrel.
>>98087684Yes on T'au.
>>98087684I wished to suggest doing that on a slaanesh flyer, but chaos flyers all look like picrel...
>>98087684I'd be more scared if it was a calarts smile
>>98087219>process kills half the potential candidates>they have to be trained from birth>they can't even really make new geneseed effectively, they have to get it back from the dead>they had the big E man overseeing the project personally>these are among the best fightersThe gulf between DAOT tech and the garbage they were using in the crusades is huge. DAOT soldiers had to deal with shit like nanomachine swarms that could disassemble the tanks around them and then their bodies as they watched
>dow4 is being sold in piecesLmao dead on arrival garbage. Monkey paw tier
>>98087727sad game wont survive until the first big expac
>>98087684
>>98087727I've barely seen the gameplay and it looks so bland. The graphics look washed. I hate modern game lightning, it's so bright. Real life doesn't even look like that.>new faction in like a yearIt's gonna be the Guard, won't it?>game isn't even out, DLCs already announcedYou make DLCs when people want more, when there already is interest in a game.What the fuck are they all thinking
>>98086386thats happened on and off over the yearsI remember the cursed founding rules for 3rd/4th(?) ed in white dwarf
>>98086259>What’s your favorite model diorama you’ve seen?flames of nemesis
>>98087709Chaos used to have it so fucking good under FW
>>98086403>specific conflict/warzone>no grand narrative, just military campaign autism>ton of new units/models>emphasize on old marine wargear, some dating back to the great crusade>the above was rather new in the way/scale it was explored.You have to remember that a ton of HH models started as badab war models
>>98086404
>>98087759I love that era of 40k because things looked grim and dark.>OldhammerFun/silly (good)>MidhammerDark/grim/serious (great)>nuhammermodern corpo shit (insulting)
>>98087638>Cawl will lose to him too in timeI mean, why do you think Cawl is giving all of those stubbers to primaris?Because he's smart enough to know he will never beat the greatest gun smith in the world.
Does anyone have the pages for this really old book, 'Da Art of Waaagh'?Trying to look for them.Trying to look for them.In particular, the pages for Siege Drill Wagon, Krawla, Steam Gargant, Landa, and Krooza Strike are what I am missing and looking for.It definitely existed, but I cannot find the whole thing at all. And things like the Krawla, Siege Drill Wagon, etc., do not even have pages in any of the wikis. (these things actually have unit descriptions, judging by the Slasha Gargant page floating around somewhere in pinterest)Particularly interested in the Krawla and Siege Drill Wagon, and whatever they are and what little text they might have, assuming someone has the pages on them.A longshot, but I really do not know where to look.
>>98087684Do NOT the plane.
>>98086429>big galaxy shaking eventsIf you make "regular" compaigns super interesting and high intensity, then it actually elevates the rest. GW wants to capture the hype with "galaxy shaking events", but since they are not great at it, it has the opposite effect and undermines the rest: it's the big happening, so anything else cannot be as important/intense.
>>98087774The page for rokkit trucks, as an example.
>>98087770Modern corpo shit can look very good, it's just matter of painting it well.Like even newer Death Guard, if you want them to look grungy and decaying1. you need to git gud2. bust out the typhus corrosion and ryza rustModern box colorschemes are bright because it is meant to be eye grabbing.
>>98087770It's not just the era, FW just had a more realistic style in general. Kind of like what you actually imagine when you read the fluff.
>>98087775I accidentally the entire planeNow I can't sit down
>>98086513Fellow Perty enjoyer. 30k and 40k Perty might as well be different characters. 30k Perty is nearly accurate to memes up until Angel Exterminatus. 40k Perty has kind of a chill divorced uncle feel. He could still kill you on a whim. But he's actually grown as a person. The only Primarch to do so. Every other primarch is just "more" in 40k. Luv me Perty. Simple as.
>>98087783>modern corpo shit can look good>modern deathguardNo thanks. I want nurgle to be rotting/decaying/diseased/eaten by rust. Not "lol le gross tongue and slugs haha bees"Contrary to popular belief, it's not about the paintstyle. If I paint an oldhammer marine in a grimdark style, it's gonna look off and not as good as a if brightly colored.>>98087787This, FW took it further. But FW style is very much a consequence to that era; it was a niche people were asking for.
>>98087798It is mostly by PAINTING, that's how even most of the old models are.The thing that makes them look decayed and rusted, is the fucking painting on them. If you paint in the same bright as fuck green color GW now does, they'd look awful too.
>>98087805I rike.
>>98087807NTA, but CAD plague marines simply cannot capture the essence of old hand sculpted models.
>>98087807Did I stutter?
>>98087798>No thanks. I want nurgle to be rotting/decaying/diseased/eaten by rust. Not "lol le gross tongue and slugs haha bees"The culprit is Maxime Pastourel, the guy GW hired to do the Death Guard revamphttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/V3WHxNqD/army-showcase-maxime-pastourels-plague-marines/
>>98087819I can salute the technical skill. I couldn't do that. But frankly even if I could I would not do these. Outside of the odd kitbash, these don't look great, but they certainly look expensive.I am only impressed by the time, effort and money spent, but not in a good way.
>>98087807>the sculpts aren't bad, you just need to paint them in such a way that 90% of the model is invisible even in a close up and 100% invisible at tabletop distance.
>>98087825you shouldn't see any of the model at all after it's been painted
>>98087829
>>98087774Try to use rutracker man
>>98087807dunking a basecoated model in streaking grime and calling it done is so fucking lazy
Why is Angron $175? Why is the Avatar of Khaine $114? Why is a Wraithknight $170? Aren't they all basically the same exact size?I get the feeling Angron was cheaper a few years ago too wasn't he?
>>98086280Bjorn the goat still dont have it
>>98087858>pricesIt's a mix of sprues (how big & how much) and things like character tax.>cheaper a few years agoI think everything was, price hikes happen every couple of years.>angronQuieres?
>>98087858angron is significantly bulkier than the avatar and has wings that take a considerable surface of the spruesthe wraithknight is an older kitgo look up the price of the stompa and its size compared to the gorkanaut
>Faction focus of Dark Eldar came out>Every Dark Eldar player hates itDoes GW hate them?
>>98087858you will pay your tax one way or another
>>98087868>Both are the same price>Gorkanaut is smaller thoughWtf
>>98087038In addition to what everyone else has said, their biggest problem from a writing perspective is that they lack interesting problems.Their only real problem is that their PCs are slowing down and they don't know how to fix them. But you can't really write interesting stories with that.Otherwise, they're good or decent at everything:>Good Chaos resistance>But still have pskyers>High tier technology **and** know how to innovate>High population thanks to clones and robots>AI that doesn't go insane or try to take over and is treated like equals >Fairly reasonable when it comes to making alliances, avoiding needless fights, bargaining for what they want, etc>Kin live good lives with good community who treat them well, if a bit frugalADB, if you're here reading this, give the Votann some interesting downsides.Make them dig too deep in the galactic core and accidentally unleash horrors on themselves.Make them hold grudges to an irrational degree and do stupid things for revenge, like Fantasy dwarfs.Make their AIs get Chaos corrupted and paranoia spreads through the Votann society.Stuff like that.
>>98087873>taxesThis shit is so fucking bonkers because the people who will consistently pay them are the poorest / less familiar with the loopholes.>Govt complains there isn't enough money>refuses to tax their rich friends>keep spending a ton for govt officials>throw money down the drain to secure votesThis is a post about the Badab War
>>98087883>ADB, if you're here reading this, make another faction into your chaos OCs personal cocksleeveKill yourself, ADB ruins everything he touches
>>98087805>Eat your hamburgers, A'pol'osa
>>98086555They don’t even commit to him being a human. There’s at least one allusion to him being some kind of manufactured weapon.
>>98087807How does the grimdark painting style look on the tabletop during games?I never found any pics of such an army to tell.
Post a basic, unpimped, non character model in your army that you just like for some reason.Pic rel is so nice, for some reason I like the simplicity of him.
>>98087883Please don’t try to appease ADB for anything. That’s like trying to have Mike Brooks do stuff for your faction, it’s real monkey paw behavior.
>>98087825>those models are invisibleactual retard
>>98087909I just think Skitarii are neat
>>98087883The idea I've always had for a dorf army was basically to greenstuff a bunch of spikes and mutations on them because their Votann bugged out and decided to start producing kin with a much lower warp resistance trying to effectively recreate pre-fall Eldar without realizing why they fell.
>>98087909
>>98087925nta but I prefer vanguardYour minis are great
>>98087871It's perfectly fine power level wise. It's just needlessly restrictive for a faction that already doesn't have a lot of options. Like they have 6 Detachments, one of which is not even confirmed to be surviving to 11th, two of which are going to be 3DP and unable to be combined, and then they made all three 1 point Detachments not allowed to combine with the one existing Detachment that could benefit from them the most. The detachment rules themselves are also a slap in the face for a faction that struggles to kill monsters and vehicles making all the rules only work on killing infantry that they are already good at killing. And then the enhancements are literally just copies of the existing Detachments they already have, so they just got their codex Detachments again but nerfed enough to be allowed to combine them.Only the covens one is really good all around for making pain engines not total ass and the Wych one might see some play of it can be combined with Skysplinter for Lethals+Lance
>>98087871Dark Eldar hate themselves, is normal for James to do so too.
>>98087973>people actually tie their hobby experience to this
>>98087883>they lack interesting problems.in order to have those we would need more groundwork regarding their history and actual way of working for example we know that they have maintained their relations with the men of iron since the daot, but that raises huge questions regarding the how's and why's, especially if we discard the most straightforward and boring possibilities for more interesting avenues >they didn't survive together, the robots won and then began cloning fleshbags because they needed souls to power the network of warp beacons to navigatethis changes little but reframes their society under a bleak existential horror story that they are not even aware of >coexistence was only achieved because the squats actively prevent the robots from becoming a hive-mind singularity by severing their robotic communicationsthis meanwhile creates an internal tension between the equality they profess and the oppressive means they have to use to maintain it, it also creates room for an internal police that hunts down subversive robots that try to grow past their bounds as well as subfactions of said rogue robotsand as the latest introduced factions, and with codexes devoid of timeline sections, we have no history with them with notable campaigns or interactions with the other factions, multiple events with the admech are sorely needed, ones with necrons, eldar, orks and tyranids go without saying
>>98087973>>98087985WE LOVE MAGIC THE GATHERING
>>98087991Is sad right?
>>98087969Thanks, anon. Vanguard are great too, I'm definitely getting another box to build them at some point.
>>98087871Dark Eldar player are surprisingly resilient or delusional enough to expect GW to eventually give them nice things after 20 years of them very much not doing that
>tfw new rules for all my armies are abysmal dogshit
>>98087985It's all DEldar players have. They don't have models and they don't have lore. And they're not even particularly powerful like Eldar. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel on all three pillars of the Hobby.
>>98088005kurde
>>98087993Extremely sad and an anti-thesis of what warhammer is.Funny enough, games like MtG are actually fun if you play fun decks that aren't combo shit with people who aren't combo/comp fags.Combo/metal/comp fags ruin everything, because they dilute a game into numbers.My brother who is a huge combofag compared it to F1 racing; he talked about all the times they pushed and abused the rules with crazy techniques and did anything they could to get better performance and thus an unfair advantage.Didn't mention anything about the racing itself.That for me defines and explains what's wrong with them: they are playing a different game on the back of an existing game. The point is not the game itself, what's fun for them is pushing the rules and getting the most unfair advantage.At the end of a game of 40k, he doesn't look back at the cool moments of the battle, he's only jerking the other guy off on his tactics/army building/combo fagging.Thank you for reading my blog.
>>98087994How can a single man be so BASED
>>98088005Eldar are all I have left.I expect some ranger detachment with a copypasta extend detection range rule, an apology for the grotmas vehicle detachment and probably some wraith one.
do you think the sheer volume of marine players will make it easy for an ork to find an edition box to split despite the ork half being clearly better?
>>98088018waacfags just expose how poorly a game is balanced. a well-crafted game is fun to play even when someone is trying their hardest to win, bad ones aren't
>>98087883absolutely this, you can make a very serious argument that the most defining traits of a faction in warhammer are its flaws and Votann have too little to really feel like they have a real flavor to them. It's bad enough that back when they first came out if I took a break from warhammer for a few months I would genuinely completely forget that they existed because they had nothing that made them stick in my mind.
>>98088032I suspect the infantry will be pretty easy to get though the vehicles might be in more demand
>>98088039a large set of tabletop dorks don't even really care about games and just want a vehicle to roleplay and play with action figures but in a more socially acceptable manner for a 3X year old. which is fine but a lot of those people get irrational if you tell them you play games for the gaming aspects
>>98088039>BalanceIt's not about balance. You can easily balance a game by mirroring it.Balance itself only matters in that poor balance CAN lead to frustration, aka "not fun".Waacfag don't expose shit, in fact metaniggers are always a negative as they force everyone to adapt to them.It's the same as the old story of the lady who tried drying her cat in her microwave oven.>It didn't say I shouldn't do it!>Well I guess that exposes how lacking the user manual of the microwave oven is!A well-crafted game is not actually fun to play when someone is trying their hardest to win, because as stated above you're force to play a different/specific game.If you're gonna be a waacfag, own it, don't act like you're noble knight helping everyone when you're just here for yourself and your little ego.
Huron WIP
>>98088047>30 yo men roleplaying with little soldiers? Disgusting, real men are all about numbers and strategies. With little soldiers.There is a profound lack of self-awareness and shame projection going on in your post.
>>98088048sounds like you just get owned and blame "tryhards" like every other mental midget ngl. you even complained that your brother enjoys the tactics part of a Warhammer match and not the larping part kek get a grip
So what detachment would Dark Eldar players be using at this point?
>>98088055>lol u madExactly as I said, you're just here for yourself and your little ego.I'm kidding you're just a shitposter, you don't even play jejejejejejej
>>98088053perfect demonstration
>Waacfag sucks>baitniggers jump into the frayEvery time
>>98088052And command squad WIP
What's better on the table for Craftworld Eldar? Avatar or Wraithknight?My 1k army list is:>1x Lhykhis>x1 Spiritseer>2x Dire Avengers>1x Wraithblades>1x Warpspiders>1x Howling Banshees>1x Fire Dragons>1x Rangers>1x Wave SerpentWhat should I remove to squeeze in an Avatar or Wraithknight? I want a monster in my army and I assume these two are monsters, yes?
>>98088062>playing a game because you like gaming is bad and baiting>playing a game because you like pretending you're not a worthless loser irl is le based
>>98088067>waacfagging is gamingFuck off baitnigger, last (you)
>>98086311They got their shit pushed in by the Charcaradons
WAACfags are bad purely because the only one I ever met was a shameless cheating nigger
Thoughts on windrider host with the upcoming terrain and fly changes?
>>98088082>waacfag is a cheaterMany such case. When the entire point is to win so you feel good about yourself (results may vary), cheating is just taking a shortcut to the desired outcome.
I know this is autistic but I like when myself and other people have some kind of identity with the armies we have. I can't put someone who's like "yeah I play blood angels and tyranids and daemons and eldar and guard and night lords and custodes" into a neat little box in my head.
>>98088067Waacfags deserve the rope.
>>98088094>I can't put someone who's like "yeah I play blood angels and tyranids and daemons and eldar and guard and night lords and custodes" into a neat little box in my head.gigachad box
>>98088094How you identify a tyranids player?
>>98088065>bringing a knight to 1k
>>98086394Coloring a premade plastic mini is not the same as creating the Mona Lisa from a blank canvas. Get off your high horse
>>98088065avatar looks kewl
>>98088100knight + a phoenix lord, mind you
>>98088098true>>98088099I just mean I like when people play one army or a small number of similar armies, has nothing to do with their personalities
>>98086394Da Vinci was a genius.You are coloring some plastic toys.
>>98088099tranny/monster fetishist
>>98088099>>98088111Girls. For real.
>>98086394The problem is that Da Vinci is great because he did it without computers and other ultra fancy tools we got today. You have many people who make art more beautiful and intricate than the mona lisa today, yet they are not as talented as Da Vinci.Da Vinci also wasn't just a painter, he was a thinker. It's easy to paint well if all you're doing is painting, learning and improving. But Da Vinci was so much more.Are there modern Da Vincis out there? Of course. But you'll never hear of them, since they won't be known by what they produce, as it's drowned in a sea of high quality art.
>>98088102>>98088110>implyingYou can't even articulate what is special about the Mona Lisa. You're only parroting people who do know the context around the piece.
>>98088102>>98088110>>98088114Do autists not understand hyperbole or something?
>>98088100>Ork player has Morkanaut>Necron player has Nightbringer>Thousand Sons player has Mutalith
>>98088119Maybe ig you used a less stupid example...
>>98088119Your question was answered.Anyone not braindead would look autistic to a retard.
>>98088052>I paint my orks in flesh tone
>>98088120>t.waacfag
>>98088120I'd hesitate to bring a land raider to a 1k point. You people need to chill the fuck out and embrace troops/infantry.
>>98088119>I ask braindead question >got answered and called braindead>MUH AUTISMMany such cases, get professional help...
>>98088052Everytime I see that face it looks worse and worse. God that model sucks.
>>98088122>>98088123>but an average adult horse is almost 1000 pounds!!!! You could not possibly eat that much!!!That's a no, got it.
>>98088135Retardation accepted.
>>98088122>>98088129shut the fuck up decalnigger
>>98088135Yes, you cannot do it, you in particular, you dumb monkey fuck, I hate you in particular, go fuck yourself.t. God
>>98088065>Lhykhis AND a Knight or Avatar in 1kWhat the fuck is wrong with you
>>98088052>>98088063>another Huron joins the frayDo you plan on making an entire RC force?
>>98088057SSA/ToT or SoS/KA look the most promising.If they're not 3 DP options, then RSR/EoS or RW/ToT might be really good.
>>98088139>decal decal decalYou need your meds, anon
>>98088098>>98088094What box does a DG/AdMech/DE player go in?Or a DA/CSM/Harlequins player?
>>98088063I like /yourdudez/
>>98088155da/csm/harlequins? a fancy gay person lol
>>98088086Are Shining Spears going to be better or worse with the new rules?I was under the impression they could already go over any height terrain
so i've got 20 of these shits. do you think they could be reasonably run as nurgle marked possessed in CSM?
>>98088165Give em all backpacks and sure why not
>>98088141Taking Lhykis at 1k is handicapping yourself if anything, dummy.
>>98088120you fuckers sound like a complete pack of faggots
>>98088165If base sizes and height same and weapons similar yes
>>98088166also quick rules question, can i take a GUO and nurgle daemons in regular CSM? or is that deathguard only?
>>98088164Worse. As far as I can tell the only benefit they get now is ignoring the 2" penalty. I hope they get a new ability
>>98088165Why Nurgle has the best and more models in both settings? Comoared with other Cult Legions Nurgle seems the best one in both quality and quantity.
>>98088178as someone mentioned, important staff member at GW is nurgle fan
>>98088168>This unit that can move 24" with Flying, ignore overwatch, and then instantly delete any infantry short of Terminators is overkill
>>98088178>peepeepoopooif you call that "quality"...
>>98088181It's also 240 points for a unit of 5 warp spiders + Lykhis.>ignore overwatchWhat?
>>98088181Yes, that unit that costs 135 points for a subpar damage output T3 5W paper plane that you need to build your army around to get value out of.You're way way WAY better off just taking a second warp spider unit in 1k (warp spiders atm are also overpriced for what they do btw).
>>98088165how big are they?
>>98088192All Eldar can ignore overwatch with their army rule I think. At least one unit per turn.Not going to be as good in 11th anymore with the changes to how overwatch works though.
>>98088178>>98088180turd worlder
>>98088203It's 1 unit per round and it's an opportunity cost of not using that token for other things.By that logic every space marine units always reroll hits because of oath.
nurgle units are ugly and grossno thank you
>>98088155Death Guard, Admech, and Deldar have nothing to do with each other, either in theme or in gameplay. Dark Angels, CSM, and Harlequins have nothing to do with each other. They're in the "random shit" box.
>>98088126>>98088128>>98088141I WANT A MONSTER TO DEAL WITH MONSTER
>>98088209>By that logic every space marine units always reroll hits because of oath.I mean, you definitely factor that and the +1 to wound into their damage discussion when talking about effectiveness into hard targets. Potential uses are a big part of unit viability, even if they depend on strategems or specific situations to get the most out of them.
What does unit mean? Does it mean one model in a squad or the whole squad?
>YOU CAN'T BRING YOUR COOL CENTERPIECE GUY TO A 1K GAME OR IT'S WAACFAGGINGWhat's up with this shit?
>>98088216unit = whole squadmodel = just that one dude
>>98088216Unit means one squad that moves as one and has to follow unit coherency rules. It can also mean one model, like a tank or a daemon prince.
>>98088217It’s a bunch of nogames flapping their gums, pathetic really.
>>98088217>What's up with this shit?Sour grapes
I want a mortal traitor army. Let me play some evil wizards goddamnit.>butmarines can't be wizards
>>98088217Truth hurts
>>98088228CSM but only use cultists and dark commune plus vehicles and summoned daemons?
>>98088228some day
>>98088228Dark apostles and sorcerers are the best you're getting. We're not getting normal human wizards in 40k.
Tactical Tzaangor inbound to your location
>>98088213>They're in the "random shit" box.It's more someone who likes having a variety of styles so they can do different things when they feel like it>>98088217buzzwords aside it is nigger tier anti fun that throws your opponent into a match that they most likely are unable to bring enough tools for because of the low points limit
>>98088228>>98088242Run Chaos Cabal and give a kitbashed Traitor Enforcer or Cult Firebrand the Psyker enhancement.Run Dark Commune.
>>98088228It'll happen one dayIt's one of the obvious easy ideas for a new Codex army, a lot of the core units already as sprues, and there will never be a time when GW says to themselves '40k now has enough armies forever, we will never release a new one'
>>98088217People like you are proof why FOC needs to come back.
>>98088255is really boring though... "cadians with spikes" is one of the least interesting things in the pipeline for new faction
>>98088262I mean traitor guard is just one aspect of a possible heretic mortal faction.
>>98088217learn to have fun for once, anon.
>>98088262A lot of us already find 'marines with spikes' to be boring too, but ho hum
>>98088262Why? We have Marines with Spikes, 2 flavors of elfs in space, Bug guard and bugs etc...
>>98088270you think eldar with spikes is cool thoughbeit. I wipe my ass with your opinions.
James should release another knights army.
>>98088214You people need to stop with the monsters
>>98088228just run imperial guard but put spikes on your guys
>>98088277(You)
>>98088277Exodites dinoriders coming right up
>>98088277>>98088283Beat me to it. Exodites having both Dinosaurs and Eldar titans makes them the best candidate for another Knights-style faction and would compete the trifecta of Imperium/Chaos/Xenos knights.
>>98088277Grot Knights
>>98088283>>98088289They had em in EpicLore wise, human knight worlds were modeled after the culture of Eldar exodites. Which explains their stance on technology, I guess.
>>98088122>>98088123>>98088129Retard
Would bringing Angron who is a centerpiece unit be considered WAACfagging?
>>98088317Depends on the point limit of the game.
>>98088317He's definitely too big for a 1k game, but 2k is fine
>>98088277orks already have more than enough for a "knights" army, between killa kans, deff dreads, the new mek walker, the nauts, the stompa and the the head scenery piecetyranids have all manners of monsters and they would just need one multikit for a knight-sized biotitanthe eldar wraithknight is prime material for upgrade sprues and if they add a bright stallion kit for exodites and update the war walker they are pretty much settau have more than enough big combat suits and it's alright if they're slightly on the smaller side in their casethe imperial guard could be the weird one by offering tanks instead of walkers, with russes, dorns and banebladesnecrons are the standout amongst the big factions, gw doesn't seem to want to give them big walkers, forge world tried, but the largest non-monolith thing they get is the stalkers
>>98088317>1kYes>2kNo
>>98088317Definitely no primarchs or other such stupidly powerful models for 1k points. You could use a generic daemon prince though.
Buying a 1000pt Eldar armySo far I've gotEldar Guardians 11xWarp Spiders 6xFire Dragons 6xRangersWraithlordWas planning on getting>Eldrad Ulthran >3 Shining Spears (I know they're shit but they look cool)>Howling Banshees>Wave SerpentWould this army be missing anything crucial?
I lie on my stomach on my bed and put some massive lids/paper/whatever down when I build and assemble minis because I sometimes slough when I sit (It's also more comfortable.Faction for me?
>>98088325Votann need a loader suit from Alien with mining lasers and a huge drill
>>98088338votann aren't invited
>>98088332>genestealer posturegenestealer cults
>>98088330>Daemon Prince>By far the best generic leader in the game>1k>Not WAACfagging
>>98088348they come in fucking combat patrol boxes, of course you can use them at 1k points, dipshit
>>98088343Would it be considered throwing your game as a Genestealer Cult player for not running a Patriarch?
final destination no items grots only or you're waacfagging
>>98088331just pick what you think is cool the meta changes all the time and doesn't really matter unless you're in a sweaty tournament
>>98088348Not whoever this is aimed at, but almost every army in 10th I faced upto now that was 'friendly' was always full of the meta shit and roflstomped my balanced armies.
>>98088358Idk, I don't play GSCs
>Everyone at my GW either just plays Combat Patrol games or 1k games with a few 2k games>They all have a big centerpiece unit in 1k games>But if I want one, I'm considered a WAACfag
>>98088359KEK
>>98088348You have no idea what WAAC even means. WAAC is putting your tanks on top of a catwalk. WAAC is putting 12 mutilators in a rhino. WAAC is C'tan spam. Stop overusing WAAC.
>>98088368>LGS full of faggot WAACfagsSounds rough anon...
>>98088368If others are doing it, it's fine for you to do it in response to their cuntishness. But you should never be the one to initiate it. Respond to the cunts, do not become one yourself.
So what unit in 10e was considered complete bullshit?
should I build a triple fire prism army with wraith spam?
>>98088384C'tan
Bringing a Centerpiece to a 1k game?That's WAACFielding no Battleline and 3x certain units?That's WAACPlaying Eldar at all?That's WAAC
>>98088368>Everyone at my GW either just plays Combat Patrol games or 1k gamesBas->They all have a big centerpiece unit in 1k gamesNevermind. Gay.
>>98088368>>But if I want one, I'm considered a WAACfagYes, and everyone else who does. You are not special.
Being a cunt in 40k is self-correcting. If people think you're a cunt for bringing 3 rogal dorns, they won't play with you. This is not like online video games.
I keep going back and forth on the color I should paint my army. Should I just paint every unit differently?
>>98088389>eldar is waac>when marines get infinity ways to reroll everything always foreverYour end can't come soon enough, mon'keigh.
>>98088406This general is apparently populated by pussy pushovers who are so beta they want rules to outright say no to such people FOR them
Why some people playing this game are obssesed with turning this hobby into an e-sport?
>don't bring enough anti-tank>cry WAAC when someone brings a tankwhy are you like this
>>98088331War walkers are useful imo. I like them.
>>98088420Thank
>>98088415Because they want to win. The game itself isn't fun for them.
>>98088409Remind me, which faction led to several CORE RULES being rewritten within the first month of this edition?
>>98088424Marines because they weren't winning enough.
>>98088418I remember we had a tournament that was won by a Guard player who brought a pure-infantry list that essentially made all the anti-tank weapons everyone else had brought worthless
>>98088424Explain to me how playing Eldar right now in their current state is WAAC
>It's another arguing in bad faith episodethe writers really need to get some new ideas
>>98088389>Playing Eldar at all?>That's WAACUntil you remember they got sledgehammer nerfed. Now Eldar doesn't even have a unit capable of destroying monsters and vehicles.
>>98088430Bad faith is the only faith there is in Warhammer. There are no good gods and certainly none deserving of worship.
ORKS https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/uwdimgen/new40k-rules-da-biggest-and-best-orks-in-da-box/>Warboss gives +1 to hit, has +4 attacks during WAAAGH>Bigboss gives Sustained Hits and +1 to Charges>Bannernob gives 5++, as well as +1 T during WAAAGH>Painboy gives 5+++, once-per-battle d3 revive>Weirdboy mostly unchanged>Warboss, Bigboss, and Weirdboy are all Leader, Bannernob and Painboy ate Support
>>98088438settle down, Fabius
What's more likely?>Dark Eldar get a refresh>Male Dark Elves aka Umbraneth get added to AoS as an army
>>98088330I brought my C’tan(VoidD) to a 1k game, my opponent failed to nuke it turn 2 and just quit. GG EZ
>>98088439>generic faction leader>1 gun & 1 melee>no options
>>98088439Could he join Breaka Boyz before?
The comp faggot in me is just like damn spamming a bunch of chronos/talos is even better now
>>98088448They already showed off a Klawboss, and they said kombi-rokkits are going back to having dedicated rules, so there's options coming eventually
Why does nobody play Combat Patrol in 40k when most people who play AoS only play Spearhead?
>>98088443The Refresh 100%
>>98088456Because AoS players have sub optimal mental faculties and require a smaller setting to focus on.
>>98088456You think you're gonna encounter an AoS player? Especially one with a full army?
>>98088371waac means you need to ignore every unit that looks cool or seems fun to play with so you don't roflstomp the chud who wants to bring only 10x the worst datasheet in his armies codex and then additionally play them exceptionally badly
>>98088462More likely than a ToWfag lmao
>>98088464Talked like a true WAACfag, chud.
>>98088443>umbraneththis sounds even worse than drukkhari...
>>98088469no you are a LAAC fag. there is a difference. every store has one and they are miserable to play against.
>>98088469Esl…
>>98088455Then why is the datasheet lacking the klaw?
>>98088487Because it's the datasheet from the Armageddon box, not the full one from the codexKeep up
>>98088455Look at those lats, this guy is a beast on the rowing machine.
>>98088474>LAAC Not all laac players are bad to play against. There is this dad with a half old hammer army in my store who brings his box nauts to every game and wins like 1 in 5 games but still consistently finds games and people are both usually happy to nerf their armies to match him and just be around him. He does teaching games to kids and newfags too. He's just a pleasent guy to game with. He paired up with our most competitive waacfag player in the doubles tournament too as a way of balancing each other. People are genuinely smart enough to know what type of game they are getting into, though occasionally he does get tabled in 2 turns by someone bringing a netdecked meta list. He is genuinely a laacfag though, you really have to bring the kid gloves to have a good game with him.
>>98088495I have won 1 (one) game in 10th because I tend to forget core rules like "you can just send your guys through terrain, you don't have to go around it." Likewise, I find that in some situations I forget to shoot with units. I beat a GSC player once because my board has so much shit that she couldn't find anywhere to do her deployment shit she was planning (and I only beat her by a few points). My last game was 70-21.
>>98088443We have actual rumors of the DE refresh at this point. "Umbraneth" has been a mad cope by dark elf players in fantasy for like a decade now. There has literally never been any mention of malerion nor any of his elves coming to AOS since first edition.
>>98088516You enjoy that?
I think to be a waacfag you have to play with the same army list every time with very few changes and that bores me. I couldn't imagine having the exact same list etc for more than 4-5 games I just get bored and try other options.
>>98088489God I am so sick and tired of this planned obsolescence bullshit where they are selling new rules that they are already planning to replace within a month for another purchased book.
>Orks getting 5+++ again
>>98088516well, I would say actually playing the game helps with that. I'm severely ADHD and in casual games people are pretty nice about reminding me of things and letting me do things out of order sometimes. Getting practice in mitigates this quite a bit. 11th might be a good time to hop in again because everyone is going to be learning the new edition anyway.
>>98088535Classic gw.
>>98088533It was against Custodes.
>>98088534I only have a few models so I can't exactly swap shit out like a TTS player. If I why a new unit I have to build and assemble it rich is a decent amount of work.
Can I move my infantry units through walls and other terrain or do I have to go around?
>>98088550infantry can go through walls (imagine then jumping through windows or breaching). vehicles and monsters have to go the long way.
>>98088546want*which*fuck mobile typing bring back physical keyboards like blackberrys
>>98088550Infantry, swarms, and beasts can pass through walls. Vehicles, monsters, and mounted units cannot pass through walls unless they have the mobile keyword, the flying keyword, or a special rule that allows them to do so.
>>98088243kek
>>98088243Bird based units are cool and I am tired of pretending otherwise.The big issue with Tzanngors is their lack of variety and oversaturation in GW boxes.
>>98087291the game is genuinely just so poorly balanced that its basically a scam at this point. if you compare it to the halo and killzone warbond not a single thing in it will actually be fun to use so you will buy it, spend 60 hours of gameplay unlocking everything and maybe use the walker skin it comes with. nothing in it will be good or fun. t. 1k hours player who uninstalled because the game is genuinely going nowhere slowly and I kept chasing the initial fun of the first 50 hours that never came back because 4/5 of all enemies are immune to 4/5 of the loadout options
>>98087291>announcement of an announcementwow thanks for nothing
>>98088618>>98088618>>98088618Image limit hit, off we go
>>98088535??? Like, I know what your complaint is about but that's not what is happening here, they've been doing it this way specifically for the starter box contents for ages because they want to sell them as something people can have a contained experience with, if they want. Every time they've included rules for a model in an edition starter set, it's just been for how that model is presented in the box set. It was the same way the last time Orks featured in a starter set, 18 years ago. The unit rules they put in that box are for convenience, not as a product that is being sold for long term use, you already know the codex is coming to supplant it.
>>98087725this is kind of a myth. the big thing DAOT had was good, benevolent AI. But we have plenty of advanced things in 40k like Terminators or knights that are industrial equipment that got repurposed that aren't anything special on the galactic stage. effective, but ultimately not this super tech xelee saga shit people imagine in their heads
>>98087563>like how men see women with bad dragon toysAroused?
