Big Fella Edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh (embed)>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Previous Thread:>>98115533 (Cross-thread)>TQIf they did another battle report competition like Leviathan, which side would win?
Imperial guard are the backbone of 40K, y'all just don't like to admit it
>>98118600They are but marine money pays the bills to keep gw alive so I can freeload on stls and pirated rules.
Another progress shot. The top of the passenger cabin and rear fin is shaped out, the gaps will be covered by some armor detailing that overlaps the lower portion of the build. It's nice to see the general chinook shape finally visible, and I think I have a good option for the turbines.What's your current project?
Cia-Cia-Ciaphas Cain! Hero of the Imperium!
>>98118603That's true and not mutually exclusive with my point. My beef is with the xenosfags who cry about how boring IG is and think that they could be removed from the setting, that's just dumb. Gotta have your meat and veg before dessert, kids
How long will recasters last since lads can buy their recasts and then apparently there is ai that can convert images ins toys allegedly more efficient than scanning.Anybody here done this? What site and model(s)?
>>98118608So like an Ork chinook?
i like grots!
>>98118612I don't think anyone has ever suggested guard of all things should be removed from the setting
>>98118614Forget I said anything, just saw your picture without reading your post.
>>98118612Honestly i would take guard any day of the week over any Marine chapter loyal or traitor
>>98118608
>>98118612>xenosfags who cry about how boring IG is and think that they could be removed from the settingCite examples of this happening
>>98118600Rebels are the backbone of Star Wars too, but we all know Jedi are what everyone is there for
>>98118614Yep. FW used to make this thing, calling it the "Chinork Warkopta", which was fun but I never liked how it had basically no resemblance to a chinook at all. So given that they don't even sell it anymore, I might as well do it myself.
>>98118608Looks good! For some of those gaps you can run a thin line of green stuff and create divots along it to mimic welding lines.>Whats your current project?I finished this and have 3 more to paint.
>>98118625Nice. I imagine Orks would love rapid deployment vtol vehicles for getting in the fight.
>>98118608currently working on my rhinos to try and get a better standard for them. still a WIP
>>98118600>backbone>of 40 kekscome on, brother, bait used to be believable...
CHAOS HAS ESCAPED RECRUIT A TEAM OF TEENAGERS WITH ATTITUDE
>>98118618Then you've missed some threads and that's fine, but there is at least one person who comes to this general who believes that or was just shitposting rather convincingly
>>98118621yeah because you're an NPC
>>98118636>NPCClassic Marineshitter behavior.
>>98118621Truth>>98118623I cbf going back through the archive, but I'm surprised you haven't seen any violently anti-guard posters here. They were blowing up around when the cloaked cadians were announced
>>98118638truth hurts don't it
>>98118640Guard players kind of bring it on themselves when they get two dozen new units in an edition and then about not getting another one with the right kind of hats.
>>98118640I come here more often than I'd care to admit and have never seen anybody suggest that guard be removed from the game let alone being able to narrow it down to xenos players. Sounds like some weird persecution fantasy.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>98118632Why? What are they gonna do?
So Guard is the same as Militarum?t. newfag
What would be a decent 1k Death Guard list that uses a good amount of vehicles and big units?
>>98118645Here it is, crawled out of the woodwork>two dozen new units in an editionWhen?>>98118646Well it happened, I was there. Don't know what to tell you pal, there was an argument that lasted half a thread
>Rules say you can give one Battle Sister per squad a multi-melta>But the pack doesn't include multi-meltas, only heavy flamers and heavy bolters, so you need to separately purchase a Retributor Squad and use one of its Retributors as a Battle Sister if you want to use the clearly best weapon optionDevious.
I'm not saying guard should be squatted, but I am saying if Johnny Lasgun never existed in the game a lot of the problems 40k has and has had wouldn't be around.
Sitcom ideaA Black Legion Marine has fucked up his last mission and is sent to guard an outpost on a lonely asteroid shared by other Chaos Marines from each of the major Legions who are also there as a form of punishment and to keep them out of the way.It's called "Who Needs Corpse Emperors With Cousins Like These?"What's the pilot?
>>98118608>>98118625Yours looks better desu. FW has to miss once in a while.>inb4 resin quality
>>98118661you are so fragile>BUH BUH BUH WE NEED MOOOOORE
>>98118633I believe Cadians should be removed but that's a much more defensible stance.
>>98118650Certain factions had their names changed a few years ago to be more copyrightable.>Imperial Guard - Astra Militarum>Sisters of Battle - Adepta Sororitas>Eldar - Aeldari>Dark Eldar - Drukhari>Tau - T'auOrks are really lucky they avoided this, I don't know how they did it.
I like orks :D
>>98118665>Anytime one of the Marines has a low point in the episode they get sageful advice from the Chaos Spawn they keep chained in the basement who only they can understand because he speaks in shrieking, agony, and spittle
>>98118661I don't know how you equate someone pointing out your entitled attitude as anything close to saying your faction shouldn't exist. Persecution complex much?
>>98118671>tau>t'aulolwut?
>>98118681>entitledThat's it, I'm siding with the retarded guardfag, and I hate guard.
>>98118671I always will refuse to use Drukhari.
>>98118650Yes, with AoS and the great rift shenanigans in 40K GW made a move to change all faction names to more unique/copyrightable. They weren't typically new terms, a lot already existed in lore but GW/fans used more simple names instead, ie. "drukhari" was the in universe scientific term, but we just called them "dark eldar" because that was simplerTLDR astra militarum = imperial guard, and a bunch of us old grogs refuse to change
>>98118671Orks changing to Orruks is so monumentally stupid they didn't even try to pull that on on 40k like they did AoS.
>>98118681Honestly that's a good read, guard players consistently complain about lack of model releases and being a background faction, but they're one of the most consistently updated factions today, but because it's not space marine level of support it's not enough.
The only regiments that should exist of Astra Militarum:KriegSteel LegionCatachansMordiansThat's it.
>>98118668>21Eh, close enough. To nitpick though, no true guardfag cares about Cadians. All the other regiments have so much more flavour and it's honestly a crime that GeeDubs keeps churning them out like they do with Ultrasmurfs>>98118669Correct
>>98118686Drukhari is probably one of the least offensive name changes because it has precedent in Druchii and Dark Eldar was a really dumb name to begin with.
Does anyone have a good pdf of the 10th edition Aeldari Codex?
>>98118685they are entitledthey got 21 releases in 10e and still threw a tantrum that steel legion didnt get anything
>>98118690All factions should have marine levels of support and release.
>>98118695Druchhi somehow sounds worse.
>>98118681I'm not equating anything. Someone came into this general and explicitly said 40K would be fine and even better if guard were removed. Look through the archive if you don't believe me idgaf
>>98118671Reminder that you should deadname every Warhammer faction and never respect their copyright pronouns. Tolkien estate isn't coming for my ass if I say Eldar, so I don't give a fuck.
>>98118698>threw a tantrum that steel legion didnt get anythingAnd it worked, so they can't be that retarded.
best guard is homebrew guard.
>>98118705>if acting like a child gets results it's a good thingand you wonder why people call you entitled
>>98118668>>98118694Don't forget they had two dozen units released LAST edition too.And are rumored to have another big wave (Catachans, Steel Legion) coming this edition as well.
>>98118668Tbf only four of those are faction agnostic but that's still more than a lot of armies got.
>>98118701Kek not even you could seriously believe this. Popular factions and niche factions could never recieve the same amount of support.
>>98118705The tantrum is justified though.A lack of steel legion with Armageddon is like Horus heresy without any marines.Why is this so hard to comprehend?
>>98118710Forgot pic
>>98118712it's the biggest release of any faction but vanilla marines in 10e (only 6 kits less, 5 if you dont count the head box for marines) and they're still crying for more despite being not even one 20th the popularity of marines
>>98118701Stop huffing plastic glue.
>>98118713Is gw actually unable to give all factions marine levels of support despite how big they are and their armies of paypigs?
Hellblaster status?
>>98118710>CatachansNot confirmed in the slightest>recoloured DKoKI sleep...Anyway, your whole argument is "guardfags get almost as much as mahreens and more than xenos!" Guardfags want ALL factions to get the same love and attention as mahreens. You're fighting the wrong people here
>>98118720It is pretty crazy that Krieg got more stuff than EC. Kinda jealous of Krieg players
>>98118725>Guardfags want ALL factions to get the same love and attention as mahreensguardtranny lying as easily as it breathes
>>98118714>Horus heresy without any marines.Can I have this? Would actually make me interested in 30k.
>>98118715>more and more cadiansWake me up, when September ends
I wonder if guard will get back infantry squads in 11th.
>>98118725You started this argument by attack Xenos out of nowhere with a strawman about an unsubstantiated claim no one ever made. Are you sure equality is the virtue to want to try to extoll now?
>>98118722Yes, because James before anything, leads a business and you can't suggest him to waste the amount of logistic effort and material expenses related to a faction release in factions that will not justify such amount of wasted resources.
Guard DESERVES every regiment, fags, you can have Red, Blue, Green, Black, Cultist Marines but is too much to ask for Steel Legion, Vostroyans or Catachads that have specific features? Fuck off.
>>98118725>Guardfags want ALL factions to get the same love and attention as mahreensI have never once seen a guardfag express this sentiment. It's usually "marines should be chaos only so we can be the heroes and xenos should be non-playable NPCs because 40k is about the battle for humanity's soul."
>>98118734He will now pretend like it wasn't him like that makes it untrue>>98118742>we deserve all of this>we'll never buy any of it but we DESERVE itguardfags really do deserve nothing but a noose
>>98118722>>98118735James prints 20 something AoS factions that all make less money than the least popular 40k faction. They can choose to diversify however they want, they just prefer to waste their mad money on trying to keep a fantasy wargame game represented in their roster.
'ate muhrines but love me any form of chaos marine
>>98118189trvke>>98118194Disney adults are just nerds but for shit that isn't considered cool by other nerds, 40k is considered cool even though the fans act like bronies or 00's shounen watchersMajority of the them don't respect GW's grip on its copyright, and acknowledge GW's empire is built on ripping off pre-existing thing(kinda like disney actually)
>>98118748No, see, Cadians aren't the models all those guard players really want. And it's not Krieg either. It's that other one everyone loves and is waiting for. You know, that third guard faction. The one they definitely all agree is the best. There's definitely a massive untapped sales opportunity of they'll just remake the best guards regiment in plastic. Which of course is the
Xenos codices when o.O
>>98118749Because that's where they get to do actual creative mini design. It's good for the soul.
>>98118756Like every three months. We're lousy with them. Orks in August first.
>>98118759Then why does most of it look like shit?
>>98118750same but marines malevolent get a pass because they’re cool.
>>98118734Now who is conflating and equating, where did I "attack" xenosfags?>>98118746>have never once seen a guardfag express this sentimentDo we have eyes? >>98118701 isn't me btw
>>98118762Because you’re blind Mr rogal dorn owner.
>>98118752>40k is considered cool even though the fans act like broniesBecause the product is cool. If MLP didn't always degenerate into sexual (furry) shit it would probably be like Touhou. That is, magical meme girls
>>98118766that's not a guardfag
>>98118671These names are still used in universe and games though, right? I mean most of these are just 'official' in lore names but games like Rogue Trader/Dark Heresy use these old names occasionally.
>>98118754If all marines ever got was ultras and BA and chaos was just undivided and khorne the tears would be endless. Don't kid yourself
>>98118773The difference is marines matter more and sell 50x the amount of guard so the massive amount of support makes sense for them, unlike your delusions for guard
The other day some people were asking about the carry cases with trays, and I absolutely love mine. I highly recommend them. 3k points of sisters fit fine, and I have a second one that holds about 2k worth of guard. Magnetize the bases and they don't wobble around, and you can have clusters of stuff that you'll use or not on each tray so you don't have to take every tray out or even pack every tray.I used to use the citadel foam cases and they were fine but they had some minor annoyances like the weight of the rest of the army was still resting on the bottom layer of foam even if it was cushioned, and several times I had to cut the foam make stuff fit, and other minor things. the magnetized cases are an all around improvement.
>>98118767Both games can have shit models anon.Maybe most is an overstatement. Lumineth look pretty good except for the cow stuff, and Deathrattle looks pretty good. So do Skaven, StD (except for darkoath), and Ironjaws. DoK is ok.The god stuff looks better than 40k. So the only stinkers are sea elves, wood elves, dwarves, and humans.
>>98118776And no, if they got equal support they would not magically start selling better, they got nearly as many model releases as vanilla marines this edition got and they're still unpopular because guardfaggotry is inherently secondary bait
>>98118776>marines matter moreWait, you're serious? Let me laugh harder
>>98118784The big problem with the guard releases this edition is that half of them were only for a fraction of the players.
>>98118769>magical meme girlsFor porn.
>>98118791abloobloo and 99% of the marine releases were for the blueberries but nobody cried about that but the bangelfags who got shat on with their models
>>98118762Because it doesn't appeal to your personally, or you decided to hate it before ever seeing it because your fellow TWW discord kittens told you to.
>>98118791This is what anti-guardfags refuse to wrap their heads around. They simplify all guard to just cadians and act like we're little bitches for wanting GW to stop churning out so many fucking cadian models
>>98118752>40k is considered cool even though the fans act like bronies or 00's shounen watchersI know about the bronies part.Not sure about 00’s shounen watchers.I get that we are no better.What annoying behaviors did the worst of those above fanbases have so I can be the exception of the 40k fandom?Also since you mentioned horse cartoon you reminded me of Chris Chan.How long until he gets into 40k? How likely will it be with a proonter?And what army would he most likely play?Think the 40k universe stuff will stress him out because of his dimension merge thing or is he over that?
>>98118786This image really is evergreen
>>98118769>>98118792I mean...it ain't like that Touhou girl isn't like 10% of all armpit porn tags by herself. The red priestess one.
>>98118793Everyone bitched about ten thousand smurf characters too anon.
>>98118650They forgot to tell you the best part, GW started doing this just because they tried to copyright strike and wallet rape some children's book author for using the term "space marine" in her title. Only to get slapped in the face after being told that they didn't invent space marines and the term and concept are nearly a century old.Their in-universe nomenclature, Adeptus Astartes, has always existed just like other titles, but GW uses it more these day in order to hold the copyright even tighter.
>>98118805that's not why, chapterhouse is why
>>98118771Most of them, I can't think of ones that were specifically made for this
Does 11th edition still have the problem where attaching a tough character to a weaker bodyguard unit actually makes the tough character weaker
>>98118769I don’t get the touhou reference but I know it has an enduring following and I think even a fan made anime.Has there ever been something like that on that level from warhammer 40k’s collective autism?Or did GW banning fan animations but not fanart destroy any chance?
Why can’t gw sculpt teeth?
>>98118806Was getting sued by gw part of ChapterHouse’s plan like how stupid kids do stupid “pranks” for notoriety and attention?How did ChapterHouse beat gw in court anyways asks are the consequences of it still being felt?
>>98118799>What annoying behaviors did the worst of those above fanbases have so I can be the exception of the 40k fandom?Power levels, 40k fags like touting their universe even when no one asks and thinks bigger = better. Then they pretend they're not like capeshit fans>How long until he gets into 40k?I don't think he likes dark stuff like 40k, he barely sat through Evangelion. Maybe if the Ideas Guys were into it, he would've suddenly gotten into it like Neptunia
>>98118671>Orks are really lucky they avoided this, I don't know howBy being called orks already, that's it. No other franchise spells it with a k. Fantasy >>98118689 called them orcs and goblins so had to change
>>98118816Chapterhouse refused James' offer in favour of yours
>>98118769Touhou is kino when it comes to its lore and universe but its fans have only gotten worse The original bronies are all dead so modern mlp shit is relatively normal, and hasbro doesn't know what to do with it anymore so it's probably gonna stay that way
>>98118752Star Wars used to have a similar relationship with its fans. Vitriolic fans are actually a sign of a fanbase's health, when they gobble down slop they don't have the same attachment as lore autists.>>98118769MLP was a cartoon for little girls. Adult male fans of that were never going to make it.If I see a Touhou avatar I assume they're trans.
>>98118809>GW banning fan animations but not fanartThis canonizes Eldar and Tau smut. And then they released from Custodes, which as we mentioned previous threads, obeys fetish reasons disguised as inclusion.
>>98118657sisters?
>>98118801We need one but all the other factions.A great big image compilation.I think I saw a tau one that also made fun of the coomers.
>>98118771Correct, a lot of the copyrightable names already existed as more official terms in lore (like adeptus sororitas, adeptus astartes, adeptus ministorum). So those are the fancy technical terms, but they also still use the older more simplified names as more casual/colloquial terms ie. the guard is still the guard to most in-universe shmucks
Taito shmups are superior to touhou shit
>>98118773Guard are 5.22% of the player base. Space Marines are 23.75% of the player base.Chaos Space Marines are 20.52% of the player base They are not even close to being in the same league as the big boys.
>>98118851I'm going to main Imperial Agents just to be a hipster
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98118851Then why did guardbros get more units than EC and TS combined? Checkmate dark god apologists
>>98118850Umas are the mlpers. Touhiggers have grown tame and no longer spam stuff
pictured: Lion’El playing the dragonzord flute
>>98118858Bro's been feeling for 7 years already
>>98118859It almost feels like TS is even less loved than EC these days.>>98118862>Umas are the mlpers.Massive upgrade if true.
>>98118707Tell us about your regiment, anon.
I would play emperors children if they had slaangors.
Emperors Children are extremely alphabet mafia coded
>>98118882What does coded mean in this meme usage?Where did it come from?
>>98118722Games Workshop has already expanded their factories to a huge footprint in the town in Britain they occupy. They maintain a huge range of production models. They have 4 major games (40k, Shitmar, Old World, LOTR) and multiple specialist games. Shits expensive to run.If I was Games Workshop I would:>Merge Age of Shitmar and Old World settings into one. Say there's some time travel warp fuckery or something and Sigmar succeeded in teleporting the Mortal Realms into the Old World timeline >This allows GW to merge the two model ranges into one>Have two separate battle rulesets that can be used with the entire model range: Shitmar spearhead for small-scale battles and Old World rules on square bases for large scale rank and flank. Just change out your bases depending on what game you want to play>Stop rereleasing so many Cadians and Ultramarines and Marneus Calgars, give a little less attention to Marines/Cadia>Give more attention to xenos, also upgrade sprues for Guard subfactions >Give out more free xenos models (buy 1 box of GSC/tau/votann/drukhari etc, get 1 free) to get more people into playing xenos factions
Just realized that they limited Experimental Prototype Cadre to character units because otherwise Tau would run triple Starscythe units with 18" S4 AP -1 flamers and not need to worry about guiding.
It’s funny because black Templars are the tranny faction
>>98118887You know what it meansIt's like when you can just tell when something is redditFor instance, SoB are reddit and safe horny, but Frazetta is 4chan
If Chaos is so bad, why does Master Tzeentch give me magic? Checkmate, corpse-suckers!
>>98118871they come from system with a forgeworld and a hive world, and get the garbage of each dumped on them.obviously they are still expected to somehow pay their portion of the tithe, thus they scavenge the scrap and build their equipment out of junk.this guy (pic related) is a Cutter Priest, a counts-as for a Enginseer. on their homeworld the Cutter Priests are the ones that identify the best scrap to salvage into useful equipment, and on deployment work to ensure said equipment functions. the admech despise them shun them, forcing all their things to be self-made.
>>98118892>SoB are reddit and safe hornyIf that was true, Femstodes wouldn't exist. Reddit really doesn't give a fuck about SoB (too religious and sexual at the same time, god reddit sucks) unless they're the designated non-Marine female character.
>>98118892No I don’t know anon.Is it like “vibes” like “this thing gives me the impression it is from this other thing?”I don’t know what safe horny is either.
>>98118816GW's lawyers were ludicrously incompetent because they were used to threatening legal action and having people immediately back down. The trademarks GW was trying to claim were absurdly broad, and they were trying to copyright sculptures they hadn't made yet.
>>98118892this is the most cringe attempt to sound cool.
>>98118891Explain further.
>>98118870It's actually really sad. I started Warhams off with a love for tzeentch, and these guys were peak body horror, eternal mutating flux kino, but it was all downhill from there. My second army was catachans and the very well aged and dusty empty battalion box I have in my cupboard held the same sprues that are still being sold for catachans today. I was kiddies didn't spend so much of their parents' dosh on marines, fuck
>>98118895Nta but I like this and I like your conversion.
>>98118905>these guysForgot pic
>>98118899He's just so deranged he can't go five minutes without injecting his identity politics into everything.
>>98118899Safe horny is a buzzword that got overused so fast it's hard to believe it every had a meaninf
>>98118906thanks. this is their walking scrap-shrine servo-priest which is a counts-as for a Lord Solar, originally built as a boss fight for Necromunda aligned with my Cawdor gang
What you're looking for is a term like "corporate approved and sanctioned" or something, not fucking "redditcoded"
>>98118888>QuadsCheckdAdding to this, everything by GW is made in the UK, which makes factory costs higher than Chinese stuff since they don't use slave labour
>>98118916That's fucking sick. Is that a tank from a Knight I see
>>98118915>>98118918>leave reddit alone!!1!Why do you get so stunlocked on a term when you know damn well what it means?
WTF is up with these prices, how is a brother supposed to get an army when a single unit can cost $70
>>98118933With a job, anon. You do have a job right?
>>98118936I have a shitty job where I get paid 28 AUD an hour, 19 USD
>>98118933Discount boxes. LGS discounts.>>98118936Paying with your own money is a good reason to keep track of the cost.
>>98118941>AUDIt's over.
>>98118928We might have a hunch why...
>>98118926probably? I kinda just threw stuff from my bits box at it until I liked it then glued it together. the "lower torso" (for lack of a better term atm, idk) is actually part of a gunpla model lmao.
>>98118933Prices are high as we don't want filthy poor plebeians shitting up our game stores and being in our general vicinity when we play on the tabletop.
>>98118936Nta but I think I now know the appeal of becoming an e-girl now.Gotta fleece those simps to pay for 40k.But I’m a man so I don’t think it will work.
>>98118941>minimum wageRip. Get a better job?
>>98118946Tell me about it. $250 for combat patrols, 180 USD
>>98118905Yeah, back in Epic Space Marine Thousand Sons were still the "All the marines rapidly mutate" faction. The Codex Space Marines comes out a couple years later and they're just magic robots.
>>98118586I know it's an autistic question but how standardized is Ork skin tone? Would it look weird if it was yellower or bluer than the official one?
>>98118963who cares nigga it's your dudes
>>98118933Buy a Saturn Ultra and 3d print them. If someone complains then just quote what Bono from the U2 said about Aussie prices. "Steal and steal and steal some more."
>>98118947>mk7 helmHow did that helmet seem to remain an iconic symbol in the minds of so many 40k fans and even new ones when they think of 40k despite James’ efforts with the primaris helm?
>>98118963Teal would be too blue, Lemon yellow would be too yellow. Anything in between is fine.
>>98118882>are extremely alphabet mafia codedSo is saying "coded", tbf.
>>98118933Bear in mind that GW makes their shit in the UK which is why it's not as cheap as Made in China slave labour. Plus this is a niche hobby - GW stuff will only sell to small numbers of customers worldwide compared to most manufactured products, which increases production costs and shipping costs. (Look up "economies of scale").Plus GW also pays rules teams to balance models (badly) for their entire lifespan, which is factored into your plastic cost.So their base operating cost is probably pretty high taking all this into account, much more than a Chinese factory paying their workers pennies and cranking out millions of toy plastic army men that can be sold at every single department store around the world.With all of that said, they also definitely making sick profits on top of it.If you think a model is unfairly priced or you can't afford it, your best options are:> buying third party models and doing a counts-as. This won't fly in GW tournaments but nobody else cares>Buying other GW models and kitbashing. I used cheaper Horus Heresy models to convert into Assault Intercessors>Buying secondhand models online/at pawn stores and stripping the paint>Buying knockoff 3D prints
gooner models y/n?
>>98118992YesTo see the lgs community’s reaction.Might be like the hentai hoodie but a 40k army.
How do you get this effect, where the end of the melta barrel has a different color that sort of meshes into the previous color like a gradient? I can only just paint a flat line.
>>98118981>implying production cost has anything to do with GW mini prices when demand is so high they sell out frequently
>>98118850CAVE for me
Anybody ever used ammo’s atom metallics?How’s the black metal? Looks like the iron warriors paint color that got me interested.
>>98119006Forgot image because I am dumb
>>98119006Glazing with transparent paints. Check the /wip/ OP for the tutorial images mega, there's a tutorial in there.
>>98119006Search 40k muzzle burn tutorial
>>98119006glaze with contrasts/inks
>>98118972Nostalgia, pure and shrimple. It's an ugly ass design too, I've said it before in this general but I actually prefer the mkX helm since it's based off best armour mark
>>98119008I didn't like any of the DDPs or Mushi, what am I missing with Cave?
>>98118972>>98119021The MKX just doesn't look mean enough, the MK7 looks angry.
>>98118972It looks like STAAAAAAR WAAAAAARS!!!!!!!
>>98118947im just gonna say, the new corsair guys make better space wolf troops than the new blood claws or grey hunters
>>98119048These Space Wolves suck the least.
>>98119044No, D:< looks more goofy than angry. MkIV is the peak of questing knight meets scifi (shut up mkIII fags, not scifi enough), and it ofc doesn't look angry but I find the visored helm look at least sinister and not like they're constipated as the mkVII do
>>98119054>MkIV is the peak of questing knight meets scifi Unless...
>>98119048Wtf I love space wolves now?
>Just got a good idea to put black on the details of a model first before I use yellow to make cleaning up easier
>>98118963They've changed their formula so many times over the years it really doesn't matter. Long as it's green, I say be as creative as you like.
>>98118871>Tell us about your regimentRecruited from a death-agri world where marsh crops have to be defended from psychic fauna (Tyranid remnants).The only surviving humans are the ones too smart (or dull) to heed the whispers luring them to an ambush. This makes the regiment be remarkedly loyal, resolute and uncompromising ...but also markedly stubborn, bereft of initiative or empathy, as well as a bit too literal minded.Commissars are advised to treat them as they would Ogryns: orders have to be literal and free of idioms, nothing is to be assumed, and they should refrain from summary executions on the field, as the rest of the squad will simply kill the Commissar on the spot and resume the last order issued.Please refer to combat report M40.937 "Purgation of Draxon Hive", which resulted in a phyrric victory after Commissar Smaroff, last survivor of the command squad, ordered the purgation of the last traitor-held spire. After killing the Commissar, the regiment set to fullfil his final command.Cultist elements were destroyed, but the purge order did not exclude the civilian elements hostage in the spire the regiment had originally been sent to relief. Casualties reached 93% until the next command detachment was able to issue a retreat order, and the friendly casualties were posthumously attributed to fuel leak fires and other collaterals.
>>98119006Airbrush contrast paints
>>98118882>alphabet mafiaBack in my day we just called them gay. Bisexual, transexual, it's all just gay
>>98119066Nta but I switched to historical colors as if one historical acrylic paint company goes bust a new hydra head replaces it.GW paints being not historical means finding the best close equivalent is hard.Only problem now are metallics.I like gunmetal but most are too bright for my tastes in gunmetal shade.I do like leadbelcher and iron warriors. A lot.
>>98119040Espgaluda
>>98119063Ah yes, my cultured brethren. I love the 4 but I also accept 5 and 6 as arguments for best. I just don't hold any respect for 7/8lets, and I think those who like 2 or 3 are admirable but misguided and should be playing a fantasy game instead. This is the way of the lex
>>98119073Nice.
>>98119048Woah
>>98118851Where's Eldar?
>>98119080Oh, sure they've changed their paint formulas in the literal sense, I was more referring to the palette formulas they choose as the 'eavy metal method for painting ork skin across the years. It used to be much more blue than it is now.
>>98118889I think I'd rather have 3-6 suits benefit from a detachment than have a single model get +6" on a couple guns.Can characters from one detachment be attached to a squad from a different one?
>>98119067>Forrest Gump regimentI like
>>98118624>jedi are what everyone is there forI think people would rather be Han than Luke. Force stuff doesn’t get very much play until 5 and 6
Would I be questioned if all the flayed skin displayed on the armor of Chaos Marines were brown?
>>98118608tank
>>98119136there will be questions but not in front of you that's for sure
>>98118600I like how GW leaned into the russian army look of cadians with balaklavas and everything
>>98118963Not standardized at all, Orks vary in skin tone canonically, even within the same tribe. They're also supposed to get darker as they get bigger and older.
>>98119156>anon doesn't even know his real world militariesSmfh shaking muh fuggin head
>>98119048Holy shit...?!
>Gonna make Dark Eldar my second army eventually once I fully paint my Craftworld Eldar army and learn to play>Was gonna do classic Dark Elf armor which is purple and gold>Trying to figure out how to add black into itWould I paint the armor Purple and make the spikes and outlines Gold? Or should I do something more fun like make the entire armor look like Cheetah/Jaguar prints?Speaking of Dark Eldar, are Kabalites dogshit compared to Wracks and Wyches? Because I like the design of Kabal and Wracks more than Wyches.
>>98118895>>98118916Damn anon I love your stuff, awesome to see some proper /yourdudes/ in here
>>98119172Don't make a Dark Eldar army when the game might relaunch their models in the next few years.
>>98118972The OG frowny face is peak 40k, capturing it's ridiculous over the top nature. On top of that, the helmet actually stands out as a warhammer-specific thing, as other marks of power armor helmets are more generic sci fi designs or straight up knight armor. It also has the most aura out of all the helmets. The design is simply iconic.
Begging (for the last time) for a source of Firstborn Sternguard vets that won't kill my wallet or make me wait until I've forgotten I ever ordered them.
>>98119199>OG>look inside>isn't the OG helmet
>>98119201Try the retirement home, grandpa.
>>98119177thanks, here is a commissar
>>98119197>ChapterMasterValrak leaked Vect is getting a new model riding some alien dragon>This guy was completely right about Imperial Agents and Asurmen getting a new model tooSo... wait til October when they reveal new Dark Eldar or 2027? Because my second idea was World Eaters.
>>98119199when mk7 was the standard everybody wanted other helmets like mk4/3/relic helmets like the blood angels tactical kit/sword brethren kit had
>>98119206It's literally the 2nd edition starter box design. The edition where RT actually became 40k we know.
>>98119221
>>98119218That's just not true. I remember people wanking to mk4, but relic helmets? For a few models and that's it. There was a LOT less bitching about the marine design compared to modern primaris discussion
>>98119234>literally the first ever depiction of the iconic frowny face for marines>somehow moving goalpostsMan, fuck you.
$10 says they add this model to Dark Eldar as a new Dark Eldar unit. And I don't mean Death Jesters.
>>98119255not the first ever eitheryou're too young to be using this site
Votannchuds, is it worth it to magnetize the gunner on the Hernkyn Pioneers, or is there any scenario where I'd want the Ion Beamer over the HyLas?.
>>98119259yes
>>98119247revisionist zoomer
>>98119258Bud, it's 40kg, we're all over 30 at the absolute minimum, you're barking up the wrong tree. The first marine helmet ever is a mk6, but it's not a frowny face, it's a bascinet
>>98117217>Do CSM have "this unit cannot be targeted outside of X inches" units or Stratagems?Really just Lone Operative models for something consistent. Shroud of Obfuscation is another enhancement in Deceptors you can take to give it to any character, more notable on a Chaos Lord Terminator. Daemon Princes also have a conditional Lone Op near infantry, not unlike Techmarines/Warpsmiths near vehicles. Failing that, a few other detachments have some kind of conditional pseudo-lone op but that's leaning into NL and WB-esque territory.
>>98119274Disregard that, it's been benefit of cover to another nearby unit for however long on Daemon Princes.
>>98119259i didnt, but its not super hard to magnetize. that said, i find it really hard to sum up the motivation to actually field beamers now that they no longer have BEAMGW sucked all the soul out of that army in record time
>>98119218People wanted them mixed in here and there, but almost nobody was trying to just replace all Mk 7 wholesale, and absolutely fucking nobody was thrilled about the ugly Primaris helmets when they were first revealed in 8th.
>>98119218I don't remember people complaining about mk7, people just liked the older marks were much rarer since you only got so many bits for them.I actually remember people complaining about GW's design of mk4 with the droopy snoot after forge world released their resin mk4 redesign, which was so good GW based mkX's helmet off it.
>>98119255The first Mk 7 frowny face helmet was not released in the 2nd edition starter box anon, they showed up years before that in Rogue Trader.
>>98119199Show me any other media that has helmet designs like 4/5/6. I'll wait. MkV even does the frowny but more restrained, less cringe. 7/8 are uggo shite, take the rose tinted glasses off for once
>>98119307Being able to mix armours was a big a big appeal of the older mk's of armour, with the extension of that being the old sprue architecture that kits used to have with the head/torso/leg formula.The biggest complaint I see for primaris, besides being generally boring, is that customising their models is much more tedious, and what used to be a basic kitbash now requires a lot of extensive cutting and posing to get a similar result, which discourages a lot of newer hobbyists which is why many newer players army just look like they're straight out of the box.
>>98119334Correct on all counts.
>>98119334There's also just very little reason to kitbash mkX. The statblocks have been wasted down to what's just available in the box for the most part, no need to try swap in weapons from other kits. No fun armour mixing to be had because all primaris look the same. It's dreary
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>>98118671Orks Krorks probablyBut they could just concede that this is band-aid brand stuff. All the new names are goofy and stupid
>>98119348Lorelet, krorks are different to orks. They're the smarter more ubermensch origin species that orks came from.>new namesMost of them are not new
>>98118671>>Sisters of Battle - Adepta SororitasThey've been called that since 1987, just like Space Marines were always also called Adeptus Astartes.
>>98118624Andor proves you wrong.>>98118632AHHHHH! After 10,000 years, I'm free! It's time to conquer Terra!
>>98119356Yes, and Krorks is an obvious substitution to get the juicy trademark situation completely clear. If they were to replace the names on the box
>>98119371andor is nothing but a circlejerk for non star wars fans going LOOK how GOOD this series is when it has nothing to do with what made the series good!!!
So if cover is a -1 to hit in 11th, armies like GK with all their psykik weapons seem like a hard counter to some armies like the skitarri cohort
>>98119372Do you have two braincells to rub together? This would be like renaming "space marines" as "thunder warriors". Thunder warriors already exist in lore and they are not space marines. Furthermore there's no need to change orks, no other franchise uses that spelling and it's very likely GW already has copyright on it
>>98119371Mousecuck faggot.
>>98119377Uh oh babby who didn't grow up with the EU
>>98119388>EUhttps://youtu.be/7vFGKHzY_38
>>98119377a lot like guardfags (secondaries) and 40k!>>9811938899% of the EU was dogshit and what was good was focused on what made star wars good (jedi, sith, bounty hunters in cool armor)
>>98119392>99% of the EU was dogshitFake fan, go clap along to the sequel trilogy pls
>>98119394trying too hard zoomzoom
>>98119396Oh brother, one of us is a zoomoid and it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one no
>>98118833Disney's purchase of both Star Wars and Marvel in the last 15 years has unfortunately put a damper on both universes, and also put both fans into Disney adult territory in the eyes of more "refined" nerds. You could say they were never cool, but they're definitely not cool now. Especially marvel which went from dirty comic shops and a movie or cartoon every other year to what it is now, that annoys people.
>>9811939499% of the EU was people writing about how the werewolf reused in the cantina was secretly a rebel hero with a worm girlfriend or fucking lightsaber knees or k*ren travissyou are a tourist who doesn't know what you're talking about
>>98119402>jek porkins having a novel-length backstory despite having less than a minute of screentime before unceremoniously dying
>>98119402Don't forget luke having 60 fights with vader between ANH and ESB and also leia having lightsaber fights with him too! Definitely doesn't undermine their actual movie encounters!
>>98119402The beauty of the EU is that there's so much shit you could pick and choose to engage with what you liked, but importantly SW was in the hands of the fans. Now it's all Disney sanctioned and they have the most trog ideas that are running the franchise into the dirt
>>98119379I hope Skitarii go back to being cyborg-humans with cool guns instead of the current MY WHOLE ARMY IS VAPING iteration.Watch me get fucking destroyed in 12 hours when tomorrow's Skitarii preview drops and it's exactly that
>>98119411They will roll out each and every idea from the EU. They’ll have the vong. They’ll have Krieia. But it’ll be ‘shmeia’ and ‘shmong’ because of the mouse
>>98118608Trying to get this asshole finished for the collage, i tried to make the fur look it was from a daemon or some shit and sorta fucked it up
>>98119402bro by the end of the EU everybody in the cantina was a rebel agent but greedo and cornelius evazan and pondo baba lmao
>>98119412Do you know when Necrons get their article?
Besides the basic battleline unit, what is the most 'this army' unit in terms of aesthetics? I'm thinking of things like Saint Celestine for Sisters, where if you don't like her, then there's nothing for you in this army.
on the topic of starwars, how many "Lego clone army builder" types do you know who are now more into 40k in some way shape or form than they ever were Star Wars These Captcha are insane holy fuck
>>98119438Thought it was just me, these captchas are a fuckin pain
>>98118695Drukhar (without the i at the end) would have been just better. Plus I think it had already been used in the codex by that time. But I agree that Aye-el-darhi is worse.
>>98119007Just because they sell out, doesn't mean the economies of scale are there.As someone who works in industry, here's an illustrative example.Let's say you have 1000 customers for a niche product in a niche hobby. Vostroyans for example.You sell out of Vostroyans. 1000 boxes sold.They're a custom metal product, so you rev up a special division of your factory to produce these, get the moulds out of stock. You pay overtime, you pay the salary for the one guy who knows how to make these, maybe he's on a better salary. You pay someone to design the new box art, send off the designs to the printer, let's say you outlay a couple thousand getting that setup.Your shipping container freight to get this from the UK to the US costs, say, $2000, to get those 1000 boxes out to the customers.Now imagine you run a stock standard little green plastic army men factory in China. You have 100,000 customers worldwide for this very generic product with comparatively higher demand.You have one factory which has been pumping out the same generic green army man moulds for 15 years straight, moulds you copied direct from a competitor. No specialist knowledge required, just get your ultra cheap slave workers to fill the moulds with green plastic and maybe shave the mould lines, break off (badly), box up, send out in the same old packaging that's using pictures ripped from Google Images rather than a paid designer.You can fit 100,000 boxes into the shipping container for the same $2000 outlay.So for a niche hobby with 1000 buyers, production cost can be in the $10,000s; for a widespread toy with 100,000 buyers, your production cost can be in around $5000, *and* you're making more sales, allowing your profit margin to be lower.I'm not fully excusing GW because they definitely shave a lot of cream off the top, but not all of the expensive cost of 40k minis is greediness.
>>98119456The ROI of GW is 40%. They get a lot of cream
1. Have you gone to tournaments?2. were they catered?
>>98119054>No, D:< looks more goofy than angry.Good. This is not meant to be super SRS ultra Edgehog the Sonic setting.This is supposed to be a fun over the top mishmash of things stolen from other sci fi settings (including Star Wars).Taking the "Primarch Angron of the World Eaters" setting seriously is never going to work. It IS goofy, it can be cool goofy but it will never not be goofy.And yes MKVII does look angrier than the bland MKX motorcycle helmet look.
>>981194651. Yes2. No, because there were restaurants near by the venue
>>98119469NTA but even now I still don't think mark 7 looks angry; it just looks derpy.
>>98119427Tomorrow +1
>>98119469MkVII is too goofy goober thoughbeit. Like I said in another post, V pulls off the scowl without getting too corny. Peeps hold too much nostalgia for VII
>>98119492pre 8th, I distinctly remember people around here saying that the heresy marks of armour were cooler. But the picosecond primaris were clarified not to be any kind of mark 4, everyone's tune changed
>>98119504I still like 10 better than 7/8 because it vaguely resembles 4, but yeah they cleaned it up a bit too much, made it too generic scifi and removed all sovl. This is all indisputable fact btw
>Tau are the good guys am I right sisters?>for the greater good! xDDDDD
>>98119519Nobody says this
>>98119465been to quite a few large and small. never catered. standard practice is usually an hour lunch break mid day, or sometimes a shorter break between each gamesometimes the very large large venues, like 100+ people rent out a room type of venues, might have food stands in the building kind of like you'd see at a baseball stadium. in a lot of states/countries/provinces you actually need a special type of vendor license or zoning to serve prepared food, so it becomes a lot trickier than just selling bags of doritos, slim jims and bottled sodas. otherwise its usually just bring your own food or go get takeout.
Tau (huge titted cute female kind) are the good guys.
Do dreads ever have jump jets?
>>98119524>>98119470interesting.It must be a regional thing because every tournament I've been to has been catered.
>>98119519>describes the basic concept of mercenary work>BRO THE TAU ARE SO GRIMDARK LOOK AT THIS SHITlol
>>98119529what region?
>>98119533Eastern Ontario.
>>98119531>military commander states his belief that the use of vespids as mercenaries can be exploitative>gets imprisoned and subjected to re-education>play it off and pretend it's fineTaufags are pathetic.
what's a model you think everyone playing your faction should have not because it's good but because not having it makes you a soulless faggot
>>98119535>nulore so bad its got spelling mistakes in printlololol
>>98119544
>>98119545Anon that book is 16 years old.
>>98119555so printed 10 years after the initial tau lore was developed in the 2010's ultra grimderp wank?like i said, nulore tripe
>>98119557Taufags, not even once.
>>98119560>posts a picture of a primaris marinei rest my case
>>98119561Firstborn aren't worth expending on bluefags.
>>98118608Working on my first Thousand Sons sets. Finished most of the holiday box. Got my kitbashed terminator sorcerer and kitbashed infernal master before running out of glue mid vortex beast. Also fuck whoever designed the model breakdown and build for the vortex beast.
>>98119560you should be banned for posting this cringe ass reddit meme.
>>98119566No pity. No remorse. No fear.
>>98119560
>>98119571take the time to clean up those mouldlines before you prime them, you'll thank yourself later i can see a big one running right down the middle of the right sorcerers bird helm decoration
>>98119575NTA, I would like to know the suffix for dislike. I would like my words to denote disagreement, rather than irrational fear.
How are Tyranids looking with the 11th edition changes?
>>98119560>implying that anything fears that faggy CoD helmet
>>98119588all i know is the red terror is out of stock and being scalped for $180
>>98119587it’s unfunny and unimaginative
You're all buying the 11th edition box, right anons? You don't want to let down James Warhammer, do you?
>>98119586Oh yeah, the infernal has cape fills and the terminators have some stuff I need to clean as well. Tomorrow is cleaning and filling, today was just building till I ran out of glue.
>>98119598No I don't play either army and the thing costs a fortune
>>98119334You can somewhat get away with it if you mix and angle the weapons and arm poses, along with using the old pauldrons and helmets mixed in, much like how the new intercessor kit looks. But ultimately I do agree, the torso and legs being made to fit as 1 pose rather that the old ball joint sort of solution before, just limits a ton of unique possibilities.
>>98119598you'll never catch me buying anything that remotely helps marine piggy sales numbers
>>98119619you'd never buy any models whatsoever, /v/ermin
Ouch
>>98119617Yeah exactly, you definitely can still customise/yourdudes/ still, since it's much more involved to kitbash these days it can be more daunting to newer hobbyists so it stifles creativity at a very important time for a hobbyists. apologies if can't wright good, am now mounted
>>98119620you realize that doesn't really work here considering 40k vydia is mostly catered to space marine shit right?
>>98119630You've tried this before and been btfo'd every timenow go back
>>98119624free terrain
>>98119624New base for the new one
How would you deal with Imperial Agents in a way that is thematic and makes them a proper army in their own right?
>>98119108> Some units can contain models that have different keywords. While this is the case, such a unit is considered to have all of the keywords of all of its models, and so is affected by any rule that applies to units with any of those keywords. Remember that attacks are made against units, not models.So the new version of Experimental Prototype Cadre applies to any unit with a Commander attached to it. So you can have a Starscythe squad attached to a Coldstar Commander equipped with a Thermoneutrionic Projector and all of them with 18" flamers running around. You're just SOL when it comes to getting 16" breacher teams.Also, detachments are only "what bundle of rules do I pick". You don't assign them to units like in 8th and 9th. If I took Brandfast Oathband and the new Sagitaur detachment, the Sagitaurs would have scouts and every unit that disembarked from them would have Sustained Hits.
>>98119655they're not meant to be a proper army in their own rightthey're meant to be an index of units you can add onto one of the 4 actual imperial armies and a way for you to field a mixture of those 4 imperial armies under the agents acting as keystone
>>98119655I wouldn't. I'd just make them easier to ally into other Imperium armies.The other option is to make it into a 2-in-1 codex where you either pick Inquisition or Rogue Trader and they each have their own army rule and (mostly) pull from the same unit roster.Also, all Imperium agents have points listed with whichever army they're allying with instead of a universal points cost that every army uses. Voidsmen-at-Arms are a lot more valuable to Imperial Knights than to Adepta Sororitas,Also, bring back generic inquisitors and give them access to army rules when allied in. Ordo Hereticus characters should get miracle dice if they're in a Sisters army, Ordo Malleus should get Grey Knights rules, Ordo Xenos should get Oath of Moment or be able to give orders like a Commisar.
>>98119201Tortuga Bay has a bunch of Mk6/7/8 in tabards that would be good as a base. It does take a little longer to get them but it's still been way faster than recasts in my experience.
>>98119655Allow them to be up to 25/75 Inquisition/any Imperium codex and they just have crazy detachments then ban them from tourneys
>>98119674Sometimes I think they should have just been given to their respective chamber militant armies (grey knights + malleus, sisters + hereticus, deathwatch + xenos), with upgraded versions of select imperial guard units (representing Inquisitorial stormtroopers) available as part of that Inquisition element
>>98119435Celestine is too much of a goody two shoes for me. I want dirty fucked granny amputees who will kill anyone if they breath wrong. Absolute psycho bitches for HIM ON TERRA.
I like the look of 11th but I get the vibe it's going to get immediately broken by a waacfag and everyones going to start playing a very specific way given certain mechanics and James will have to hike points on stuff with say precision or that nullifies hidden etc
>>98119048the hell
>>98119598gabagool
>>98119674>one of the 4 actual imperial armiesSpace Marines, Imperial Guard, Sisters...Custodes?
>>98119048Just paint them as Dark Wolves so you can keep the chaos bits
>>98118586Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was Big dudes and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my may collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's vote:https://strawpoll.com/wby5QLM2ByALooking forward to seeing some big models
>>98119713admech, retard custodes are agents
>>98119649Would go hard as fuck
Soup for today's gayme
>>98119624Me when I bring 20 meltas lol
>>98119392
>>98119544Raiders and venoms with the crew on. Dark Eldar players that run boats with no hangers, gunners, or pilots are missing the point of the faction.
>>98119809counterpoint - free models to use elsewhere
>>98119820Counter counterpoint. Those free models don't matter anymore now that you have fixed unit sizes and none of them have any of the special war gear so you still can't even make a useful unit out of them unless you want Kabalites without blasters and dark lances and wyches without gladiator weapons.
>>98119823you can still make archons and succubuses from them since those kits leave a lot of spare bits but not enough legs to go around. Not having a chud/chudette hang from a venom and raider so I can save 30-40 bucks on a character is a worthy trade off
>>98119172Purple and gold is an extremely common color combination picked by the DE fanbase and you can find hundreds of examples of people trying it different ways. Black is a common tertiary color too. Look up Kabal of the Last Hatred in particular, if you want to see the closest official subfaction scheme people try to copy. As for the relative usefulness of the different battleline units, it fluctuates a lot. Kabalites got a big point bump in the Codex and are a little overpriced for what they do right now, but they used to be the best battleline unit in the index. Whychrs are currently super strong for their price and are buffed by the strongest Detachment in the Codex, spectacle of spite. Weacks are kind of weak and piddly outside of a relatively bad Detachment in covenite coterie, but the Battleshock changes next edition might make them monstrously annoying.
My deldar gf tortures me every night so her soul is safe and then we bang. It's a pretty nice arrangement.
>>98119826Fair enough. You can get some cheap plastic characters without any drip and with some weird jumping poses if you want. But print some crew for your Raiders and don't leave them empty floating husks.
>>98119809Basic deldar rules:>your cult, coven and kabal all have their own colors and insignia>your transports have some basic conversions to represent the faction they're from
>imperium is all about killing heretics and xenos>most games are imperium vs imperiumthis hobby is so gay
>>98119837I mean, if you're not going to turn your centerpieces into mini dioramas, what are we even here for folks?
>>98119839What is blud waffling about
>>98119842Most games are space marines vs space marines, sadly
>>98119842everyone plays imperium so games don't line up with da lore
My armies are just using paintball guns during training whenever I go up against another imperium army
Imagine being Chaos. The Imperium is so bored of fighting you that they fight each other because you're not interesting. It's like being a zombie looking at humans killing each other because you're too boring for a post-apocalyptic villain.
>>98119839>Imperium vs ImperiumThat's not a thing, because even if that happens it will be always imperium vs heretic because who ever loses is the heretic.
>>98119850the enemy army isn't
>>98119850Is that why all your models have paint splattered haphazardly all over them?
>>98119839>xenos get good rules for once>marines cry>xenos get nerfed, marines get same but unnerfed toys>xeno sales drop or fall off since there is only so many units that you need>wtf why games are just imperium vs imperium
>>98119839there was a perfect opportunity with the khornate curse affecting fleet quartus, but the hack chaosfag writer had to make it into a chaoswank instead of an interesting an interesting battlezone>what could have been: the entire fleet is under the effect of the curse and is unable to tell friend from foe, imperial forces fight imperial forces under delusions that they're fighting monsters or traitors or loyalists unwittingly carrying the taint of chaos >what it was instead: lol the entire fleet (except the special snowflakes) became a spiky mutant khorne berserker in the blink of an eye, isn't that cool now lol!
>>98119880They should make a kill team of orks that can be built as either chaos boys or bug boys.
>>98119897An entire delusional crusade screaming their regular dogma for the Emperor and Cadia and cutting down imperial forces and citizens while drenched in blood would be really horrifying and grim.
>>98119897That and also GW should stop pretending that there isn't a good divide to be made between the more dogmatic side of the imperium and the more radical one under guilliman, to create a fertile ground for tensions between imperials instead of the current impression of extraordinary unity and coordination.
>>98119683I like this solution best.
>>98119683then you couldn't field random attachments of agents to a normal imperial army
>>98119908that would go against the noblebright that guilliman started, imperium must be one united to conquer the whole galaxy
>>98119880I dislike that chaos is pretty much a human thing nowadays. Chaos orks are cool.
>>98119948Khornate Eldar who went a little too far down the Khaine track would be nice
>>98119948
>>98119933>that would go against the noblebrightYou don't need to convince me, I'm the one proposing it already.
>>98119948Imperialization of Chaos
>>98119956>>98119958>>98119971Chaos Eldars are cool too.Chaos is about powers and patronage from dark gods, so it shouldn't be restricted to humans.
>>98119977But what if humanity is so powerful it hogs all the Chaos from everyone else?
>>98119982Then we must destroy chaos
Abaddon final goal is to control Chaos (he will fail) and lead mankind to next step
>>98119519He was punished for his words.In the same book, it has a T'au guy respecting the fuck out of the Vespid>>98119535That's from FFG's Deathwatch.It's not canon.It's the same source that says the Sister of battle power armour doesn't enhance strength.
>>98119201God, Sternguard were so fucking good
>>98119992>FFG's but I though that Alan Bligh of Forge World fame wrote (most of) them.
>>98119201Should have grabbed a couple sets while you had the chance
>>98119201I love my metal Sternguard, but these guys also fuck, despite being plastic figures a transitory period.
>>98119201I'm waiting for a MtO
>>98119201>top rightIs that Titus?
>>98120056yes
>>98119201MTO takes up to 180 days to ship out, so I don’t see why you’re complaining about cheap models coming in 3 months. if you don’t like them enough to think on them after 3 months, maybe you don’t deserve to own them.
>>98119201These designs mog primaris to death
>>98120056It's a ref iirc, I think it was even mentioned in the WD, would have to look at it again
I still have some HH mk6s left, I could greenstuff the bling from picrel onto one... I need to get more greenstuff from the store first
>>98118600Sure the are. Regluar IG joes is what the Imperium relies upon 50% of the time, and 30% of the time it relies on its regular-ass citizens even below the IG.It's just that remaining 20% that is really important, and people really love.
>>98118671>Orks are really lucky they avoided this, I don't know how they did it.They probably don't want to open that can of worm with Blizzard and their orks.>>98118686>>98118695I like using Drukhari. Dark Eldar has never been used in-universe, for pretty justifiable reasons.>For the humans all Eldar are filthy deceptive xenos, and only some specialist Inquisitors can tell the difference, who are not going advertise it>For Craftworld Eldar, those are the asshole Eldar who refused react to the changing times, and cling to their old power instead.>For the Drukhari they are the true Eldar, who keep the torch of the old empire, and the rest are coward posersWhich gave them some verisimilitude, but made them a pain to refer to. Having a title like Druhkari is good.
>>98120039Bottom right guy is in the top 5 best marine figures ever made. Wish I knew where mine was right now.
>>98120075People naturally gravitate towards the elites of any force. Even the guard fans often really like their storm troopers and kasrkin and grenadiers etc.
>>98119519Anyone who thinks Tau are actually the good guys by modern moral standards are wrongGue'vesa are basically a mirror of Indians during British occupation. You are outside of their system and can't influence it because you are not a member of the occupying race, you are a second class citizen only for extracting wealth from. You can wholly side with the colonizers and wear their colors proudly but you will never be one of them, they will throw a thousand of your lives away for one of their own and if you step out of line they can blast you away with their superior technology and control of your home.So anyone who thinks it would be better to be a Gue'vesa just because they have cool tech and a nice catchphrase is spiritually Indian.And if you think Tau are based for turning those mud people into disposable workers you are an Englishman who still has some spirit left in him
>>98119977Chaos being restricted to humans also makes them far less scary, making them lose out on the cosmic horror angle against the tyranids. Like hell, Genestealer Cults do the whole subversive force of evil better than the Chaos Cults, because those are too focused around the Space Marine shenanigans.
>>98120087>Which gave them some verisimilitude, but made them a pain to refer to. Having a title like Druhkari is good.While I don't share your opinion, if nothing else it's far better than Aeldari which is a comically lazy and cynical rename.
>>98120098That we fully agree on.
>>98120098Aeldari gets me chuckling because I feel certain they picked a word that contains the word "Eldar" on purpose just for SEO reasons
>>98120097This
>>98120092and that's still preferable to imperium's treatment that's few tiers byeond qin empire
chaos isn't restricted to humans and never has been. there have been chaos corrupted xenos and even machines from the start of 40k.
>>98120087If I recall the Dark Eldar actually used to call themselves the "Eladrith Ynneas" which was their tongue for the forsaken ones or the dark ones in reference to their curse. Dark Eldar was supposed to be a crude High Gothic approximation of that, though the Imperium seldom ever makes a distinction between the groups of Eldar and refers to them all by their racial moniker.
>>98120092What's with the habit of some anons here of posting smut images of the T'au and giving bad takes?Humans and aliens have some influence in the T'au Empire. They can be economic powers (picture related) or can exercise political influence in the T'au Empire via delegates in the Elemental Councils called Kindred Spirits
i like nu-sternguards
>>98120113That term only appears in the Andy Chambers Dark Eldar books and nowhere else.
>>98120108I think people mostly mean on tabletop, though they seldom show up in the lore either outside of 30k. Masters of the Maelstrom might be the first ever official model of a "chaos Xenos" but they're a faction that doesn't fully embrace the dark powers anyway so... Eh.
>>98120108I think you're missing the point entirely, anon.>>98120120Me too, picked a box up to kitbash with DA inner circle companions. What do you like about the kit?
>>98120099To this very day I still cringe a little when I hear or see people use it unironically because of how shit the name is. Honestly what really annoys me more than the lazyness is them trying to do halfassed in universe justifications as if literally everyone doesn't already know the real reason why they made the changes>>98120101I guess I could see that since it was done around the same time they lazily stapled a ' onto the Tau but then it begs the question of why they didn't do that for the other renamings
>>98120119$5 says the Union of Iron is a Genestealer Cult.
>>98120092>Gue'vesa are basically a mirror of Indians during British occupationThis is (unfortunately) not the slam dunk you want it to be
>>98120119>our masters listen to us sometimes (they don't)! >we are influencing them!!!Spiritually Indian
>>98120140There is a difference between never and sometimes. Humans in the T'au Empire have more rights than they do in most of the Imperium. That goes double to triple if they are mutants or psykers.The current human representative/delegate on the Fifth Sphere Elemental Council is an old human psyker.
>>98120092Ultimately, it's just the Ethereals that get to be spiritually British. Most Tau are Indians in the Raj too.
>>98120150Indians were given crumbs, not unlike Tau client races
>>98120159What are you talking about? Farsight overruled the three Ethereaals assigned to him during the War of Dakka.
>>98120161Lore says that the Tau allied races have equal rights to the Tau, though.
>>98120126sternguard are to me THE space marines, more than tacs or any other kiti like all the build options you can do with them and all the extra greebles you get in the box
>>98120177it must be unbelievably obnoxious to get the weapon's strap stuck in the pauldron
>>98120177Nu sternguard are light enough on bling that they make for good standard marines. (which is what I use the bodies for)
>>98120124zamn red corsairs look good
>>98120067There isn't a single good looking combi-weapon is there
>>981201237th edition Dark Eldar codex, actually.
>>981202225e too
>>98120092I still don't get why people call them commies when they have a literal caste system
>>98120226They parrot shit they heard other people say.
>8 campaign supps released in 10th edition>4 campaign supps in 10th edition center Chaos factions>0 campaign supps center EC, the Chaos faction launched in 10th editionIt's just not cool.
>>98120221I like the combi needler in picrel
>>98120092Tau are basically slaanesh-light. They tempt you with big promises and even bigger water caste tiddies but ultimately they just want to control and exploit your body, but crucially leaving your soul intact. In 40k terms that is pretty tame.
>>98120108How long until the farsight enclaves start growing horns?
>>98120231that's just the Halo ODST SMG
>>98120222Funny, when they changed the name to Drukhari in mid 7th edition, they actually changed the Codex to have the exact same wording and just ctrl+f'd Eladrith Ynneas and replaced it with Drukhari
>>98120238Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?It's just a bullpup bolter with a needler mounted under the barrel.
pretty sure dark muses are still a thing right
>>98120224Well, the 5th edition Dark Eldar codex was written by Andy Chambers who also wrote the novels so that's not a huge surprise.
>>98120229What is it you think the Emperor's Children actually... do? Like what warzone are they involved in?
>>98120249?
>>98120261Ah, my mistake then. Forgot chambers was the rules writer on 4th edition, not 5th. I could be wrong about that too though.
>>98120246Yeah, here's the relevant passage from the 10th edition codex.
>>98119560Please keep this on reddit
I can't tell the difference between marine armor marks. All mon-keigh look the same to me.
>>98120340That's ironic coming from 7 shades of aspect ratios.
>>98120273Chambers was gone even by 4th edition
Wouldn’t a normal person see a chaos infected person and automatically say no? When is it an attractive choice to look like poo?
>>98120124I can't wait until 2035 when GW releases the Barghesi as knight-sized chaos Xenos.
>>98120360every single one has different colors, weapons, and design language thoughit's pretty easy to tell them apart, unless you have a tiny peanut sized mon-keigh brain
>>98120387Nurgle gives you an infection, then offers to take your pain away. That's why people say yes to him.
>>98120387I dont know dude why do people in real life who start out attractive decide to dye their hair blue and shave their eyebrows and the sides of their heads and get nose piercings and become fat when they see other retarded commies do it.
>>98120393Take the helmets off and paint them all the same color and tell me how many people could tell them apart.
>>98120423>Take the helmets off and paint them all the same colorWhy would you do that
I just want to play as a dark wizard, manthousand jobbers don't count
>>98120387Chaos cults rarely actually put their freak mutants up front when they're setting up shop. It's more insidious than that, and that's part of the reason the Imperium are such fucking psychos about everything. The extreme paranoia and authoritarian boot stomping is a reaction to how any little thing can balloon out of control.
>>98120429chaos sorcerers exist outside of ts
>>98120440They're all marines, though. I want mortal chaos sorcerers.
>>98120426Would you still call marine armors all the same if each had a specific color it was always painted?
>>98120447Literally dark commune.
>>98120429Does it have to be human?
>>98120454No?? Obviously, if each one had a different color they would be easier to tell apart.
>>98120459That's perfect, thanks.
>>98120387Because you can look like a chad if you make the right choice.
>>98120405Rent free
>>98120459Are those swords supposed to be ceremonial? Those blokes don't look like they could wield them very well.
>>98120496Everything in the picture is ceremonial.And everything in 40k is also ceremonial and designed to kill you at the same time.
>>98120429>>98120459The Lost & Damned should be a faction that the Chaos Space Marines are a part of, not the other way around.
any ideas on what to use for good chaos feudal guard? want an iconoclast fiefdom army that's a mix of tzeentch worshippers from a chaos planet these guys are good for that >>98120459
How do we make 40k models easier / more fun to paint? I've noticed that as time goes on, AoS models are a lot better to paint, even though they somehow seem more detailed than 40k ones these days and I'm not sure why. It's like the AoS team thinks about the hobbyer when creating models and the 40k one doesn't.
One more hour to Adeptus Mechanicus faction focus.What are we expecting?Did we ever get the rules for the one that was played in the Exhibition match on Monday?
>>98120541If you have ever tried to paint 3rd party sculpts and prints it becomes exceedingly obvious how much more GW thinks about the painting experience when designing their models than most people do. Modern 40k models are a lot better than old ones with a few notable exceptions (Voidscarred Corsairs). GW has even started to put suggestions in their assembly guides for subassemblies for ease of painting.
So how near are we to Armageddon? Don't want to buy anything else if it's right around the corner
>>98120557>Modern 40k models are a lot better than old ones with a few notable exceptions (Voidscarred Corsairs)it's honestly so bad
>>98120459The severed head thingy is cool, the rest is fucking garbage
Do you ever feel like Eldar fans have a victim complex?
>>98120557>with a few notable exceptions (Voidscarred CorsairsWhat's wrong with the corsairs.
>>98120565No but I do feel like you seethe about Eldar unprompted every single thread
>>98120575Nah. I actually like eldar, but some of my fellow eldar fans give me weird feelings
>>98120437Kind of like the Death Cult DLC in Rogue Trader.>The lower class voidsmen are pushing for better treatment by the enforcers? I guess that's fine.>Woops it's a full-blown GSC infestation.Though it's really hard to consider the DLC canonical when the ship isn't big enough for how much map space is devoted to "lost corridors"
>>98120574A shitload of tiny pouches and trim everywhere. The little gold wire trim on the armor is just awful. Even the pouches have trim.Every model also has a cloak, the inside of which is impossible to paint except in subassembly. Then half of the weapon loadouts make it impossible to paint the chest of the model because the gun is in the way. they look really cool though
Someone post the copy pasta and image of Konrad as Homelander saying he'll suck dick
>>98120618How badly I fucked up by buying them, as a hobby newbie? I've only painted once before
>>98120630it's over for you, might as well give up on miniatures forever.
>>98120599>Kind of like the Death Cult DLC in Rogue Trader.Pretty much, and also not unlike certain gangs in Necromunda or other smaller scale stories in 40k. Helot cults often don't actually know their leadership worship Chaos, their rank and file are out for freedom and survival. Chaos, like a Genestealer Cult, will almost never present a forward face until it's strong enough to be an existential threat to its host society.
>>98120599>Remember getting this mission when I bought Rogue Trader a year ago but didn't own any DLCSo why was given this if I didn't own Voidscarred? Now I know they're Genestealers.
>>98120634Well, guess I'll kym
>>98120630It's fine. You can always strip and redo them later.
>>98120630Picking out raised detail is EZPZ don't listen to anonAnd fucking up isn't the end of the world regardless
>>98120643post your voidscarred
>>98120639>Remember getting this mission when I bought Rogue Trader a year ago but didn't own any DLCOne of the planets (Dargonus) has similiar plotline
>>98120645Here they are. :^)
>>98120650Blue ones are renewed Eldritch Raiders, what are the dark red ones?
>>98120654I'd assumed they're both Eldritch Raiders, just with the red ones representing Voidreavers not important enough to be allowed to wear more blue, so the blue armour/dark red cloth are inverted.
>>98120650Not sure. Almost looks like an inverted void dragons scheme. Would help if the felarch had a flag on him.
>>98120639Void Shadows*
Ladies and gentlemen. We have it. The entire core rules have leaked for 11th edition and the missions. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EqGf18_9bifVceDaqyPkrvpjMIJE2A7D/view?usp=drivesdkhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1u_R_d3GxfowwBUhYXw0mqXiuAD7Gb7A6/view
https://youtu.be/whxcq4I0kAo?si=RdrAnVhleiyroZtLYou're joining the waaagh, right, anon?
>>98120682>FrenchMan I need to learn a second language.Thanks anon!
>>98120618That pic is further reason why I don’t understand competition painting. Every material is painted like it’s NMM.Even the base
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>>98120654Those might actually be the canon scheme for the Sky Serpents, Duke Sliscus's Corsair band
>>98120702volumetric highlights are different from nmm
>>98120092Gonna need more evidence of tau being based off India anon.Lots of cultures have and had caste systems.
>>98120459I'll always be annoyed by the boring bodyguard filler modelsInstead it could have been something like a heretek and a daemon familiar
>>98120682>mvq it's in frenchfrogs won
>>98120541people hate them for this but AoS is allowed to be more flashier with their designsbut i think overall for someone in the middle this just means the ones that hit, hit very well. i love a lot of whats in Underworlds for onefantasy is just allowed to be a lot more flashier and since AoS is a newer setting there's no established design characteristics they need to strictly adhere to 40k's bread and butter are marines and from weapons to armors, nearly everything about that is decided from the start and GW is usually gonna make minis that all the marine factions can use for more sales what they could do to fix this? 1, go more out there with noncodex compliant factions. the original stuff for dark angels and space wolves is pretty cool but really do need a bigger push for distinction2. more shit for chaos, chaos has the potential to be cool, everyone knows this but they'd rather give these factions a single model every edition and forget them 3. more xenos stuff. i don't care if xenos don't sell as much as marines, they certainly sell better than AoS, so what's the problem. a lot of the newer xeno stuff has appeal and ideally xeno stuff should be where they are allowed to be more wild 4. stop treating kill team as a pre-game for 40k. all the model releases are designed to be used later for 40k, its not being treated as a separate game where they do what they think could be cool. it should feel awkward to place something from kill team into 40k. do that or make an underworlds style game tl;dr - 40k's designs are restricted, AoS is not
>>98120226Because they don't know anything about anything
>>98120557>Modern 40k models are a lot better than old ones with a few notable exceptions (Voidscarred Corsairs).Chaos Space Marines go under that exception too. Every time I look at that champion bit with the knife and the chainmail and all of the trinkets and tchotchkes on his belt I groan.
>>98120541AoS has a lot more open poses due to most models either using sword and shield or two hand weapons. 40k the vast majority of infantry carry some kind of rifle across their chest. This will naturally make them harder to paint satisfyingly since you won't be able to paint the belly area if you aren't subassembly painting.
Corsairs are closer to pre-fall eldar than any other group.The weird sex cults only popped up in the last like 1000 years of their 60 million year reign
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>>98118729Nah, I hope Dark Eldar and Gray Knights get a big ass refresh this edition. Also GW blew their load by giving us 3 years worth of kits at the start because they know we're not going to be playing after 11th launches from how fucked the rules are.
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