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MFM fucking When!
>>98209058Saturday
Play Necromunda
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98209045>TQshort answer yes. slightly longer answer is I'm still low-key pissed that adepta sororitas animation stole my setting almost point for point. Boyz just looting whatever
>>98209053So are Black Templars kinda screwed now? Will they be rebranded into a more corpo-friendly outlook? We can't have anything based in 40k after all.We've been seeing signs of this before, like with the phrase 'My faith is my shield' being made into 'My oath is my shield' (which makes no sense anyway, how exactly is your oath your shield? Your faith gives you tangible power in the Warhammer world).
>>98209070the problem is always, unironically, every single time jews. be happy with femstodes and black girl bosses in the guard or else
>>98209065I would love to, but I would be too torn on whether to paint bad leopard print bitches, or the space klan.
Post models, gentlemen.Is anyone else finishing up their last model/models before they get their Armageddon box?
>>98209070The entire point of Games Workshop is to make you come up with your own lore and rules to use with people that can actually stand your synchronized autism. No one can keep you from playing with your dolls how you want to.
I like orks :D
>>98209082I am so very happy with this one I will repost it again until someone gives my baby the love she deserves
>>98209084Okaeriinasaimase goshujin sama welcome to the knight cafe
>>98209070Why does this black templar have an odd "feminen" way walking.Also they have a oddly narrow waist...
>>98209106post neuroloids or gtfo
>>98209045What's up with the image? Why is it weirdly blurry?
>>98209082>Is anyone else finishing up their last model/models before they get their Armageddon box?I always have more models, but I’m setting out to paint the guy in red, so I have all my klan color schemes down and ready as a reference to paint the rest of them. so far its looking good.Euwrekka Klan (pink and black)Mork’s Foreign Legion (red, black, grey camo and black)Gork’s Chosen (purple and yellow)Green Knights of Orkney (blue and black)
>>98209082>>98209145
>>98209139that’s cause you’re drunk, and need to lay off the booze.
>>98209152I don't drink, what's up with you two
>>98209065KARK
>>98209066i am politely asking you to stop posting this image
>>98209065Darktide would've been cooler if it was set on Necromunda instead.And all of the classes are just based on stuff from Necromunda. Like the 4 basic classes would've been the Orlock for veteran, Goliath as ogryn stand in, Cawdor for zealot and Delaque for psyker.
>>98209169Unfortunately I will have to respectfully decline your request.
>>98209208>Darktide would've been cooler if it was set on Necromunda insteadIt's on a lamer version of necromunda. A ton of assets & cosmetics are based on necromunda models. Which makes sense since it's a hiveworld game and necromunda is the closest direct source of material for that sort of locations.I would have loved a ganger style L4D game for sure, good idea
>>98209219kill yourself dumb bitch if you no give fuck
>>98209139I assume OP's camera has AI upscale turned on by default.If it was a fully AI generated image it would be a lot more generic looking, but it's clearly not a typical untouched photo
>>98209082
No points till Wednesday.
>>98209208Did you play the Necromunda: Hired Gun FPS?Surprisingly good (other than the terrible ending, odd progression and the occasional Eurojank)
>>98209139Disgusting auto enhancement features on phone cameras turn everything to slop. Or they pressed the "enhance" filter button. Same result. Blurred surfaces and ultra sharpened edges, like shitty anime upscales.
>>98209246>>98209264>AI "enhancement"They do that shit on youtube too I believe. But why?
>>98209274gotta stick AI in everything so the massive amount of shareholder money pumped into its bubble doesn't pop
>>98209208>>98209220it couldn’t be done because if it was set on necromunda they wouldn’t be able to reuse all the nurgle assets from vermintide 2.
>>98209222This is a joke, right?
>>98209280I hate that this makes sense>>98209287>Reused assets from VT2Even without reusing assets it's pretty sad that they've stuck to skavens, nurgle and nurgle.I still need to try VT2 to see if fatshark just fumbled darktide or if they were retarded from the start.
>>98209131I don't see the point in using kitbashable parts for a mere token. only tokens I ever did was for my kitbashed breaka boys because bomb squish are funny
>>98209287They still could have reused all of those.All they would've needed is to make up some "no one cares, out of the way, boonies, unknown" part of the underhive that most gangs never venture in and it'd been kosher.Though, I would be miffed about losing ogryn as a playable class. Though they could have then made it a DLC class.
>>98209301There's some hopiumcopium that Fatshark adds GSC as an enemy faction.But seeing it's been almost 4 years since Darktide officially released and all they have to show for it is are tox bomber, plasmagunner and then 2 new horde enemies with shields coming in this next update, I don't think they'll ever add another faction.Even VT2 got beastmen like 1-2 years after release.
>>98209323>GSCI wish, but the game is likely spaghetti coded, so they screwed thesmelves up.Also good chance that if they add GSC it'd be DLC>still no sniper rifle or meltagun despite the icons leaking years agoIt's so joeverDarktide wouldn't have survived if it wasn't 40k
>>98209058Wednesday
>>98209329>>98209323The problem is chinks bought Fatshark. They are not allowed to do anything but make darktide a gachasloppa skinner box now, weapons are verboten
Vehicles with powerful mid-range firepower benefit from being able to more easily open wide firing lanes by moving partially into terrain, and so many go up in points.Large combat-leaning monsters and vehicles generally find it much easier to reach and charge enemy units, and so many go up in points.Infantry units that are both fast and powerful in melee tend to have gone up a bit in points.Large models that fly now have a much easier time navigating the battlefield – expect many of these to go up.Titanic units (with the Towering keyword and the Plunging Fire bonus to shooting) become particularly lethal at short range. Expect several to go up in points.Units that can manipulate battle-shock become more powerful; several will see their points increase.Models with Psychic weapons now ignore many negative modifiers to their attacks when fighting, so many also see a point increase.The ability to reroll charges has become very useful with the added flexibility of picking targets after you roll; expect some units with this ability to cost more points.Surge Moves are now more likely to catch enemy units with the changes to engagement range (now a flat 2”); these units will likely cost more points.Fights First, while still a useful ability, is less dominating than in the last edition, so many of these units will cost fewer points.Large units of 20 or more models, which were previously used to fill up large parts of the battlefield, can no longer spread out as much, due to the 9” coherency rule. Many of their points go down.Units with both Infiltrate and Scout now need to choose which rule to use each game; they can’t do both, so have seen a points reduction.Stealth is now a more situational rule, as it doesn’t stack with Cover, and so many units with Stealth are set to go down in pointsIndirect fire is now weaker against distant targets that no model in your army can see, and so many artillery units have gone down in points when taken individually.
>>98209345>shit game>GW IP guidelines>china moneysuccysuccyCould be worse, they could be swedish developers
>>98209329>I wish, but the game is likely spaghetti coded, so they screwed thesmelves up.It certainly is.But they also lost the previous combat director who had worked at the studio for like 10+ years and came up with the entirety of tide combat from the ground up.
>>98209356>But they also lost the previous combat director who had worked at the studio for like 10+ years and came up with the entirety of tide combat from the ground up.This explains a lot.
>Finish Night Lords trilogy>Some eldar bitch killed everybodyHoly shit this author is a hack.
>>98209353Everyone who knows their shit say's the new rules will make 11th heavily shooting favored yet GW keeps screaming about how they're about to stomp on melee. Amusing.
>>98209354Kek
>>98209345Tencent buying them out is part of the equation, all the updates for Darktide happen based on their quarterly reports since they only make 4 big updates per year and all of those updates are spaced around 3 months apart.It also explains why they keep making DLC classes now and release them every 6 months and why the classes are very generic and kinds low effort where everything is "gain +15% damage on breathing", "gain 10% toughness when you fart". Or how lot of the new weapons are clearly inspired or based on older pre-existing weapons.Arbites shotguns area a good example of this since they function the same the combat shotguns.
>>98209364Are night lords the eldars of space marines?
>>98209082I have finished another torso.
Is Warhammer Crime worth giving a try?Is there anything simmiliar to True Detective?
>>98209310tokens are soulneuroloids are cute and make the aesthetic of the model completeGW are retards and could at any time decided neuroloids are statted models and not tokensits really that shrimple
>>98209417I still despise the ending of The Wraithbone Phoenix
>FUCKING ELDARS
nobody talks about models anymorenigga can't even get an attaboy anymore ts tuff
>>98209082>>98209106>>98209147>>98209247>>98209416Attaboy.
>>98209431dont mind if i do!
>>98209310>>98209423Tokens are a great way to represent abilitiesFor instance if you have a relic/one time ability it's a constant reminder that the ability is there and it makes sense in universe; like a little guy carrying your relic.
>>98209423That reminded me of Celestine cheerleaders. They are basically tokens that can attack.
I wonder what the steppers are going to be to prevent unit spam. Will they be enough or will they be so inconsequential that people still spam 3x defiler>>98209431Permanent means forever
>>98209364>Reading BLNo one who doesn't have name in a codex can do anything relevant that would interfere too much. Especially if it is in the "past". They either die, spin in circles in the boonies, or are waylayed for stupid reasons. Read the shorts
>>98209045>started 40k in 10th with a big box of cadians>pivoted into GSC after toying around with the idea of traitor guard>most of my cadians gather dust as I do GSC stuff>search through them one day for some brood brother squad members>mfw disgusted by the mold lines and other shit I didn't do during my first model assembliesThinking about snipping the heads and arms off of my cadians to build them into a more worn down/salvaged gear/genestealer culty look. Terrible idea?
>>98209492I don't care if they don't get to do much, shoving in some stupid alien mary sue to just kill everyone was fucking retarded.
>>98209310Paint your tokens.
Anyone got a lead on decent looking 3d printable Cult Ambush tokens? I'd build my own, but all my creativity is spent on kitbashes and my bits box isn't robust enough for lots of terrain stuff.
>>98209509>Marine Sergeant saying this to a FarseerLol?
Does the CSM legionary kit contain the kill team legionaries now?
>>98209507I used my cherubs to decorate other models because i did not know what tokens werenow i have bare tokens
>>98209497I mean Neophyte squads have always been a mix of random shit. Remember that Neophyte units could take heavy weapons teams and use lasguns but it really did not matter sin 40k makes no distinction between an autogun and a lasgun, and 10th thinks a rifle is the same thing as shotgun. In other words mix random shit with your GSC. Especially when the Acolyte and Neophyte kits come with so much extra stuff.
>>98209521The kits came with bases for them.
>>98209082I already got the only box I need, I love the new AFVs, still getting warmed up on the halftrack, I haven't decided still if I want my guard to be Vresh Grenadiers or if I should do a custom regimentThis one's still WIP but I don't imagine I have too much work left, mostly weathering and details such as glass, weapons, and different doodads around
>>98209531they also came with options to equip them as dominions and sacrosancts with gunsi didn't feel like everything in the box needed to be used
>>98209364>noooooo, an alien named character beats my le mary sues after they kill a bunch of aliens (alien named character dies too, because xenos (eldar) factions don't deserve to win)
>>98209548Alright anon how would YOU feel if someone wrote a trilogy about YOUR faction and suddenly at the end Marneus Calgar shows up and just kills almost the entire cast? Would you think it's 'okay' because the characters got to scratch his armor while he punched them all to death?
>>98209546That is entirely different. The freaking kit mentions the babies as their own model. Since the kit sold as 11 miniatures and not 10.
>>98209561>Alright anon how would YOU feel if someone wrote a trilogy about YOUR faction and suddenly at the end Marneus Calgar shows up and just kills almost the entire cast?So an average non marine book?
>>98209564It does not talk about the models at all? It just tells you how to put them together? i saw the box included a cherub model anon, i thought it was decorativewhy are you fucking REAMING me over this, will nobody play the game with me if my cherubs aren't on their bases?
>>98209565Name three where that's the situation.
>>98209527>In other words mix random shit with your GSCOh I am, but at the same time I'm trying to have sets of distinct squads. That way if two distinct squads on the table get close to each other, or even end up mixing, it's easier to identify who belongs where.
>>98209570The instructions literally tells you in what base it should go.
>>98209582and i thought i was decorative are you esl or something?
>>98209576When I played big meme units with multiple squads. I simply used my old models for each squad.Even old metal battle sisters got to larp as neophytes since I never changed the bases for them.
>>98209586>can't follow instructionsNot my fault anon.
>>98209582nta but the cherub being a token isn't something you'll learn glancing at the kit or instructions, it's a pretty understandable "mistake"
>>98209595yes i made a silly stupid little mistakedoes not deserve someone as autistic as you hyperfixating on it like thisgo argue with your mother if you need the attention
>>98209565Man I love my Genestealer books. It's been a while, but IIRC only the one had some randos show up to stomp our shit, and even then we came out on top.
>>98209433I'm surprised people still come here at all.
>>98209561>YOUR factionAs average non-marinefag book? Okay, ze blslop trilogy about my faction ends when one of big five craftworlds (according to writer, with small population (less than 10M) and one titan) was invaded by literally nonamed chapter and bunch of guards and almost been overwelmed before main protag stand on kneels and tell everything to chapter master about traitorious imperial governor. Then chapter master kills governor and leave the craftworld aloneAnd this is still less silly blslop that my faction have now, so stfu nigger>Marneus Calgar shows up and just kills almost the entire castIts codex space marine 5th ed and any Matt Ward/postWard bolterporn
we are LOST without decalfaggot here to guide us someone go say sorry and beg him to return
>>98209353So Kill Rigs/Hunta Rigs will go up in points despite not being that much more powerful.I wonder how Cthonian Earthshakers will fare. Cheaper because of weaker indirect or more expensive because of battleshock?>>98209367GW is putting way too much faith in the hidden rule and flexible charges while ignoring that charge rolls are at -1. The deepstrike change vastly benefits shooting armies more than melee. Now my Hearthguard get to strike within bonus range without spending CP.
>>98209597There's also the fact it's the most fragile part of the kit thanks to the plastic chain of the censer. One of mine broke on the sprue and I've had to figure out what to do with it.
>>98209623A single chapter IS all that it would take to wipe out a Craftworld.
>>98209367>mfw the guy I play against mostly does Khorne daemons
>>98209082Working through the Leviathan box slowly, painting up some Earthshakers to expand my Votann with. Seriously debating whether I want to buy two more Sagitaurs and/or some more Hearthguard. Could have sworn I had two HG champs but apparently not.
>>98209603Well GSC are the protagonist of 40k after all.It is a well known fact that every event in 40k are just proxy wars between cults.
>>98209632you can just cut the loop off the chain and the cherub can look like he is grabbing onto anything glue him on a vehicle or a sister with a heavy weaponi wish the boxes came with like five cherubs
>>98209082Nice work as always.Just reposting last night's progress pic. I am not certain I'll get the build finished before the weekend but it will be close. I've got about half of the riveting on the fuselage done, after which I'll be working on the rotor blades and landing assemblies.
>>98209643Obviously. Marinefags just can't seem to accept that their Imperium is basically 90% infected sleeper cells at this point.
>>98209632It looks cool sometimes but GW really gotta stop with the fragile shit. Unfortunately normalfags love this sort of spectacle so GW is gonna keep it up.
>>98209644At least I think Cherubs are the one thing you can 3d print a ton of and no one will complain at events.
>>98209635The last time the Imperium tried to attack a no name craftworld they lost an entire battlefleet and they didn't even dent the bloody thing.
>>98209625>spend the whole edition changing the range of every melta gun to be 18" or less specifically so that you can't deepstrike and immediately get the bonus damage>change the deep strike distance to 8" because lol im just a girl???????
>>98209645Thunda crunchas is that you? There's only one anon here with that level of scratchbuilding skill.For me, riveting is the biggest pain in the ass with scratchbuilds. The plastic rods I cut up to use never stick on right and cutting them takes an extremely long amount of time to get them to be roughly the same size. I usually end up with some rivets that look way too long.
What are the chances GSC gets a new flashier model in 11th? I love my half-bug guys, but it would be really cool to actually have a neat centerpiece abomination. I'd even settle for a Bagger 288.
>>98209666>What are the chances GSC gets a new flashier model in 11th? close to zero
>>98209663Source?
>>98209650That thing is surprisingly resistant or snap at nothing.My Celestine have suffer the impact of been splatted by the old warlord titan made out resin, entire plastic city building falling on top of it too.Along with a metal Gaz falling from a building.Meanwhile the needle pistol snaps while tipping over
>>98209688I think it's the curve vs straight linet. clueless
>>98209663The last time the Imperium attacked a Craftworld an Inquisitor, a Tech Priest, and a Rovue Trader developed a techno-virus that nullified and killed Wraithbone, and they destroyed the entire Craftworld by simply putting a small voidship close enough for the Eldar to take the bait.Learn your place.
>>98209517Its doesn't have the upgrade sprue anymore iirc
>>98209683Battle of the Blood Nebula, maybe somewhere in 4th or 5th ed
>>98209664lel
>>98209710>maybe somewhere in 4th or 5th edLmao
>They harden in response to physical trauma. does this happen in 40k? other than orks
>throws a genestealer at his rival during a truce for shits and giggles>gets called out for it>lmao it was just a prank bro>indirectly causes the planet with their super special vault to get blown up due to the infectionHow is Trazen such a lovable chad?
>>98209722eldar have armor that works like that
>>98209703Be honest, its necron techovirus what humans reversing thanks to controlled ctan (they have pact with deldar to establish control on that thing and also a necron tombworld)
>>98209722Probably, it works for me even now
>>98209723As goofy as that book is, it really shows you that necrons operate on unimaginable scales of time and thats pretty cool. I enjoyed it enough to impulse but thr annotated and illustrated version at the lgs
>>98209695long bendy distribute force better than short no bendy
>>98209561... anon the Nightlords are the jobber faction of self loathing and delusion. That's sort of their deal. That one of them an heroed for a kill on the phoenix lord is very fitting and you entirely missed the part where the surviving nightlords have the 10th, who is even cooler, doesn't have the legion hangups and its 10 seconds to midnight. You're the perfect representation of the NL fanboy who doesn't get it, but is a great example of it.
>>98209665Yea it me. A brush applicator for CA glue is a must for rivets, I find. As for cutting them to size, honestly I don't sweat it too much if I have a few long rivets on an Ork project, it all adds to the slipshod character an Ork vehicle should have. I'm definitely at the point where I've done enough of this that it is just sort of a semi-conscious process, I'm not thinking that much about it and just repeating the action, and I'm always surprised how little time I've spent on it when it's done.
>>982096835th edition rulebook page 119
>>98209747Totally thought that was lego from the thumbnail
>>98209561Night Lords more like Bottom Lords
>>98209722Fairly sure there's a nid relic/enhancement like that.Alternately you have the refractor field that converts energy into light.>>98209741Ook
>>98209747Amazing.
>>98209747Oh dat one'z flash, Boss.This is how you make an ork car. The modern ones are too slick
>>98209749This is outdated information as it camr before the Path of the Eldar trilogy, which involves an invasion of Craftworld Alaitoc that is largely successful and cripples the Craftworld before the Marine chapter involved withdrew following negotiations. The Eldar themselves admit that if the Marines didn't withdraw then they would have been wiped out if they didn't beg for mercy.
>>98209777Ah yeah BL slop. The reason why this thread started in the first place.
>>98209777Codexes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blslop, retard
>>98209777>This is outdated informationno, it isn't
>>98209777>rulebook is "outdated" because Gav wrote some BL slop No.
>>98209781>>98209784>Excerpt explicitly states "last Imperial assault in a Craftworld">A new Imperial assault happens later>HURR DURR MUH CODEX STILL GUDGenuinely wretched behaviour, as expected from Eldar fans.
>>98209752Similar thought process a lot of the time, honestly. Aside from a general idea of the shape I want most of the time I am kind of fumbling around based on what I have available for bits or are confident in making from scratch, trying to fill in empty space that needs extra detail.>>98209769Thanks. Here's the other half of the KBB kit I used in that.>>98209775I appreciate the compliment, I don't hold any ill will towards (most) of the current buggies, though. I think most of them are very nice, fun to build. I lament the loss of extra bits, but it's not that difficult of a thing to overcome, these builds being evidence. At some point I'll try and do the same with the snazzwagon, I like that design a lot too and it felt like it'd be fairly easy to turn one kit into two buggies as well.
>>98209722Literally eldar armor functions that way.
>>98209790Does GW even do the date thing anymore? I hardly recall seeing a timeline in the newer stuff.
>>98209561Dude they're night lords lmao it fits them perfectly, also they lost to a phoenix lord not some random nobody. Also some of them die protecting some of their serf/slaves which is something you will never see in other marines.t. night lord player
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98209790You type like that retarded taufag on twatter, who goes mad about eldar wh+ show
>>98209791plasticard genius or 3d print? (or both)These are fookin noice
Don't GW test stuff before they release it to the public? With the new leader-bodyguard rules the army rule for GSC no longer work as every model in the unit has to have Cult Ambush rule and the characters don't have it. I can't tell if this was by intent or not, to make you regenerate only smaller units of 5 to do objectives with. But given how character heavy the faction is, it's seems counter-intuitive for it to be this way.
>tfw never read my codexI snagged the code for the 40k app so I can see my rules and never touched my codex again. I assumed it was just a rulebook, and well I had the app for that
>>98209796Having the faction the book is based around get thrashed by a literal who xenos character isn't good writing.
>>98209790>happens laterdo you understand that the time of publication is not the timeline of the event?
>>98209790You will never belong.
>>98209790>>A new Imperial assault happens later[citation needed]Path of Eldar trilogy isn't novelization of tabletop event ergo non-canon utill proven otherwise
>>98209803Plasticard, and the occasional third party piece I've scrounged like the tires there, or the tracks here (recast with blustuff because the OG seller went out of business).
>>98209808>tfw getting a few more games in before 11th hitsI hope they errata that shit, because otherwise they've murdered our boys good
>>98209509>we are so badass for killing each otherOrc tier mentality. Proves eldar right and justified in exterminating 40k humans.
I think there's too many detachments: both Grizzled Company and Abhuman Detachment can do the same: Commissar joining Ogryns.Not sure why those two are sometimes paired together? Ogryns seem obedient enough already, and it's not like Commissars can scare those guys with threats of violence.
>>98209817That's a noice kill krusha ya got there>plasticardGreat job, plus to be fair the original models, forgeworld included, were likely made with plasticard & reused bits/
>>98209790BL novels are, and always have been, their author's personal fanfiction. If it isn't in a codex, rulebook, or campaign book, it's not canon.
>>98209817That's some fine work there m8. Wish I was even half as good at building stuff
>>98209353>Large models that fly now have a much easier time navigating the battlefieldWas this not the case already? Flying makes moving easier.
>>98209818I mean me and my buddy had a test run of 11th and we both immediately noticed how my army rule would no longer work, he told me to play it as usual till they release an errata of some sorts. Like I've said I don't know if this was intentional or not, but knowing GW it's probably an oversight. A big fucking one though, two casual players notice it and somehow GW misses it.
>>98209812>most famous phoenix lord is a literal who anon I'm glad you've just learned how to read, I encourage it, but read more.
new Battleforce boxes>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/n5pspedx/new-warhammer-40000-battleforces-revealed/
>>98209509I hate the trope of the supposedly more intelligent alien not grasping why a species may have inner conflicts.Like eldars never had disagreements that came to blows.If you're smart enough and you've had such things in your past History, then you have no reason to not understand nor ones to judge, even if you went "above" it.If you're smart enough and have no such violence in your History, then you can realize that you just don't get it or are different, so again no excuse.It's a retarded trope.It's always the writer's moutpiece about how he's so smart and war is bad.
>>98209845Nid and IG ones actually seem quite nice. Don't know enough about the other two armies to make a judgement though I expect CSM players to not be terribly enthusiastic about how many cultists it has over Marines.
>>98209353sooo what I'm hearing is that Eldar are getting another nerf?
>>98209845Necron one is not badSo the basilisk and commissar doesn't sellTyrant & warriors are too old, maybe don't sell eithercultists, disco lord and the shitty obli+d-engine don't sellMakes senseAny idea of the prices?
>>98209839I mean the entire GSC thing is a mess.>place token 9" away from enemies>get removed within 8"Ranges are all over the place
>>98209835Now they can pay 2" to fly through walls. In 10th they had to fly up and over
>>98209845These all kinda look like ass.
>>98209847How would you picture eldar being so above mankind? I can only think of that pic where they go something like:>Hi, my name's John. What's yours?>I AM THE VITALITY OF MY CRAFTWORLD MADE FLESH. A SONG IN THE MAKING FROM THE BEFORE-TIME, MEASURED IN WAYS YOU CANNOT IMAGINE. I AM JUAN ELFO
>clearing out our stock of basilisks, obliterators, hive tyrants and flayed ones before they are refreshed in a few months
>>98209045Anyone try using that nail art stamping shit for putting stuff on Imperial Guard models? Having one unlimited use stamping plate that I can use with any color sounds much better than collecting a ton of those transfer sheets. I haven't used a transfer sheet yet, and I figure it would be better to jump straight to learning how to do the stamping shit if it's a better way of doing little icons, flag symbols, and lettering rather than learning my way around the little decal sheets before switching over anyways.
>>98209870>Now they can pay 2" to fly through wallsWe house ruled that in 30k for having vehicles bust through walls Kool-Aid style. It was fun when it worked, and funnier when it didn't.Fucker rammed his Land Raider into a house and made it immobilized lmao
>>98209845is the tyranid one good?
>>98209821>it's not like Commissars can scare those guys with threats of violence.They goad them with promises of Good Boi medals :D
>>98209879A classicFor me eldar are "just" humans pushed to 11 to a point that feels alien to us. They think better and faster, but they also feel more and stronger.I never liked elves/eldars just being cocky humans with pointy ears, and I much prefer them as a way to explore how far/deep what makes us human can go.They could be so "refined" that a simple exchange of words can carry a thousand messages because the context they know and perceive is too vast for us to grasp without analyzing these few seconds for months.Sure some elves can be cunts, it's also fun to explore what such beings would be like if they were hateful or caught in their own pride & ego.Generally that's why I like 40k: exploring things that we don't see in usual fiction because it has to fit within a reasonable frame.
>>98209845I feel like I've seen this one before...
>>98209845>no russwould've considered the guard box but not with that disgusting dorn in it
>>98209845its crazy how every battleforce box you can look at it to see what kits are selling poorly.
>>98209897Yeah you're gonna want all that stuff at some point.
>>98209919I’m glad I’m not the only one who did a double take. this is the hellforged warband box.
>>98209565Speak for yourself, the BL trilogy about MY faction had them save the galaxy and then go home for medals and kudos.
>>98209645how do you get the plasticard to bend like that?
>>98209861I kinda wish we had Indexes for each faction for a fresh start instead of trying to fit what's existing into the new set of core rules.
>>98209940So they replaced the Rhino and Havocs with 20 shitty Cultists? They didn't even bother to make the cultists look different, just copy pasted the 10 studio painted ones they have twice into the picture.
>>98209980Unless I'm missing something this does not work.Since Neophyte are 1 wound and I could not find the heal rule anywhere. So I have no idea what the fuck I'm suppose to use the Heal 3 on.I mean nowhere does it say I can revive dead models with it.
>>98209847To be fair, the Eldar were created directly in the Space Age and skipped all the bad stuff.
>whole line of night lords joytoys coming out
>joytoyhave some shame
>>98209995We don't know if the Old Ones "created" the Eldar or simply took an existing species and molded them to suit their needs. They probably were primitive at some point, but that point is at least 60 million years removed from the current setting.
>>98209987>They didn't even bother to make the cultists look different, just copy pasted the 10 studio painted ones they have twice into the picture.that’s always been the case when it comes to two kits of monopose minis. I think it might have to do with not wanting retards thinking they’re not the exact same kit just because they have a slightly different paintjob.
>>98209845The CSM box is embarrassingly bad and the Necron box is pointless when I already own 60 old Warriors and four Barges. I was hoping for Tau or Knights, but no luck.
>>98210001>>98210002The HH NL praetors and contekar were made at the end of HH 1.0, so they got some of the best models. If they weren't resin I'd have grabbed the tartaros preator for 40k.
>>98209990If a UNIT heals 3 wounds and all the models in the unit are 1 wound, I would assume that the unit just gets up to 3 models back in your command phase.
>>98209987Rhino and Havocs confirmed Legends
>>98210021Yes, that might be a valid concern. I remember when they showed the Traitor Guard pics for the Red Corsairs box, and people legitimately thought this is new sculpts because they were painted with different colors than before.
>>98209995the Eldar had a massive civil war (also called "the war in heaven", for some reason) back in the day
>>98209995As said, even if they didn't have such violence they should be smart enough to either understand it and grasp it, or acknowledge that it escapes.It's like people who are dumb enough to claim "humanity" is responsible for the plastic wastes around the world, as if the small tribes in the middle of the tropical forest had any fucking hand in it, because the whole point is to present yourself as taking ownership/awareness of the issue and rising above it>We did it but I know it's bad and we should stop itIt's a very tiring trope already in itself, but when you see through it, it becomes so much worse.
>>98209821Commissars assigned to Catachans:
>>98210032Yeah, but we are no longer in 10th. Because now it has to tell you out right how many come back.
>>98209919>>98209940>>98209987>>98210021These boxes are just a way to get rid of unwanted stock. I'm glad they got rid of their extra rhinos, good for them.
>>98210032thats not how it works tho. until now we always got rules stating something along the lines of regain models or set up lost models. 11e rules seem to have been written by pajeets or ai. don't know what's worse
>>98210042>you did bad thing X years ago so I can do the same now o algo>war is good actuallythirdie-kun...
>>98210051>don't know what's worsethere's no difference>hire indians>they ask grok to do it
>>98210052Anon this has nothing to do with the issue or what I said, unless you're trying to point at another retarded logic, then sure.
>>98210041That war was against the Necrons
>>98210061nta but you missed the>alsowhich implies there are two wars in heaven
>>98209845>GW is doing it againBattleforces from two Battleforces ago are still on the shelf of most local game stores and even official warhammer stores.They do not sell. They take up store space and even LGS discounts do nothing.They were sellable when they were £100 or so. These army deals are not sellable at £150 or above. Do cheaper boxes with fewer models if you have to.
>>98210042>It's like people who are dumb enough to claim "humanity" is responsible for the plastic wastes around the world, as if the small tribes in the middle of the tropical forest had any fucking hand in itonly uninformed idiots use this talking point since 90% of plastic waste that gets into the oceans does so via indian/chinese rivers. the sheer fact that expensive windmills and environmental concerns are now conflated makes me mad beyond belief
>>98210015>we don't know >they were probably the thing I want anyway based on nothing okay good talk >>98209995created into the space age to go fight machine men with psychic swords. Hard to tell if 41st millennium eldar talk in mythopoetic reference because of the time separation of if they were made that way. Similar to whf lizardmen in their relation to the old ones could be an example or parallel. They have time between the old ones and current fantasy year but there are living slann who had direct contact iirc. Not that the ancient slann are much use for direct transfer of information. The old ones and the war in heaven is thankfully still too xenos based to get the HH treatment and have every hint of mythology rendered to granular cups of slop.
>>98209045Dear Games Workshop,STOP CHARGING ABSOLUTELY BATSHIT PSYCHO RETARD INSANE PRICES FOR YOUR STUPID FUCKING PLASTIC TOYS! GAME STORES CAN'T SELL YOUR LAUGHABLY OVERPRICED BULLSHIT AND NOBODY CAN AFFORD TO BUY IT!AFTER YOU READ THIS, FUCKING BLOW YOUR OWN HEADS OFF YOU FAGGOT ASS GREEDY MOTHERFUCKING CORPORATE COCKSUCKING LOSER TRASH!!!
>>98209289nta but no, you litterally contribute nothing with your ritualposting.
>>98209310Tokens can be fun
>>98209858You better fuckin believe it boyo
>>98210025These boxes are not intended for people who already own a ton of core units
>>98210067>90% of plastic waste that gets into the oceans does so via indian/chinese riversPeople are not ready for this conversation, we're still too deep in the american racism obssession.Speaking of plastic & pollution, do we have confirmation that GW is gonna get rid of resin in the very near future?This could be huge.
>>98210089>obssession
>>98210081This hobby is for true autistic NEETs please go spend time with your family
>>98209845If you are truly entirely new to the army I think the CSM one is OK but it's absolutely terrible otherwise. I can't see the appeal of the Nid and Necron ones when so much Indomitus/Leviathan stuff is still available. And you can't read the Guard one as anything other than "two tanks, one of which is bad" really.Am I crazy or did these used to be better?
>>98210093religionhappy now?
>>98210066is an LGS under contract to stock any new warhammer boxes or is it purely voluntary on the store’s part? because if its the latter why do some stores keep buying them? I’ve legit seen stores with 8 of the same battleforce stacked on top of each other, and that takes up space that could be used for something else.
welcome to battleforce, we have:>two copies of a unit you will only ever need one of>some garbage that hasn't been updated since 2008>the worst leader in the entire codex
>>98210093It's funnier that I manually corrected the "typo" by adding an extra s.
>>98210105the corsair battleforce is bretty cool
>>98210101no..
>>98209845Are these even a good deal anymore? They couldn't even throw a 3rd tank or even 10 more fucking Cadians into the IG one to make it actually look appealing on the box.
>>98209353>Models with Psychic weapons now ignore many negative modifiers to their attacks when fighting, so many also see a point increase.>The ability to reroll charges has become very useful with the added flexibility of picking targets after you roll; expect some units with this ability to cost more points.RIP master of possession and terminator sorcerer, those fuckers are gonna be like 120 points each.
>>9820980811ths edition has been played tens of times in a brutal playtesting schedule
>>98210107hey at least you have the guts to admit it and the funny bone to laugh at yourself. real qualities right there, anon
>>98210063>which implies there are two wars in heavenThat's neat. Where did you find that? There's stuff about their various gods fighting and fucking each other over like Vaul and Khain.
>>98210105Literally every one of these looks anaemic due to the increasing prices and they should all have minimum 1 more unit included.
>>98210105If someone made a list of all the jewery GW has been guilty of we'd run out of paper.>battleforce in the 2000s>actual fucking army starter/bolster>battleforce today>shelf clearerThe alternative would be selling these bundles under a special "please buy" category with a decent price reduction, but why be fucking honest and pro-customer when you can lie to people for lodsaemone?
>>98210119It's extra clear that some armies get zero playtesting at all prior to an edition launch, or are only ever tested against space marines and nothing else.
>>98210118so khorne/orks/anything melee becomes unplayable?
>>98210027cool pattern on the armor. Stippling?
>>98210119Or you know, hire more playtesters and make them play an actual decent schedule instead of 4 games a week.
>>98209919>>98209940The Venomcrawler being one of my favorite CSM models and Obliterators being my most hated is such a cruel reality
>>98210119>Can you increase your QA?>small british company, please understandI adore when people can't own their own failings and instead try to justify it, implying you are a moron who "just doesn't get it".If playtesting is a problem, mr games workshop, then don't do a new edition every 3 years? Why do you sell rules if you can't ensure they are good?What GW is saying is that people want to buy these rules, GW is forced to do it and they just can't hire more people to do it.Then don't. If you engage yourself into a road, especially for monetary gains, you have to own that fact and be responsible for your own shortcomings.If I started to build skyscrapers all by myself and people pointed out that my 1 man job was shoddy, I wouldn't blame them, I would say that yeah I was pretty fucking retarded to take on such a huge project on my own, now I've learnt and I'll do my best so that my shitty buildings don't kill someone.>>98210120I love arguing online but I'm not a fucking faggot. I mean yes but not like that. Not like THAT either.
why is the new Diorma Crison fist focused?>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l7rtsi47/warhammer-world-unveils-a-new40k-diorama/
>>98209353>Point hiking psychic units, melee units, and fast unitsThey saw how Eldar were at the start of 10th and have seemingly decided to break the elves' knees ahead of 11th now. RIP Aspect Warriors, Farseers, Melee Autarchs, AoK, jetbikes, and every Eldar vehicle.
What would your wishlist of 11th edition changes/additions be, Anons? -Grey Knights get Centurions with an upgrade sprue to make Purgator Devestators or Inceptor Assault Centurions.-Grey Knights get non-Terminator Apothecary characters.-Grey Knights get Stalker and Hunter tanks.-Admech have Questor Mechanicus knights re-added back to the army like in 8e.-Admech can take Onager Dunecrawlers in units of 3 models each again.-Admech get a Detachment that works like the Tau Experimental Cadre that gives them a 6 inch range bonus and ranged damage strats.
>>98210121>where did you find thatYou also seem to miss that "nta" means "not that anon". I don't know.
>>98210149because Warhammer world does whatever they fancythe last edition's diorama was raven guard
>>98209974Just bending it, doesn't really work with thicker stuff but if you just keep a piece bent for long enough it will hold. Just have to be careful to not get too aggressive or you are likely to just snap it. When you're ready to attach the piece you will want to make sure there's a surface that matches the curve or bend well, as an example the curve on the top corners I have some more plasticard cut into curved "ribs" that provide multiple anchoring points. Super glue vs. plastic glue is more reliable for attaching those sorts of pieces because the bond is formed faster, so even if the piece is trying to relax back into its original shape it will be held firm.You could alternatively try heating the piece but depending on your method the results will be hard to control. Heating with a lighter flame usually results in unintended warping or shrinking, not completely useless a method depending on what you want but you will probably waste material on several attempts... to say nothing of potential health hazards involved with being around melting plastic. I don't recommend it. Soaking the piece in hot water has some effect but I find it still rebounds very easily to its original shape much like an unheated piece. One method I've not tried is a hot salt bath, I've used it on GW plastic but I am uncertain if plasticard would hold up well and it's also a method I'm not huge on as it's a bit wasteful.
>>98210145Its a shame they never followed up with a proper Venomcrawler kit, with different loadouts and visuals. It really is such a great model.
>>98210149Pedro soon, trust (probably easier to repaint ultramarine vehicles in deep blue or somethin')Luv dioramas so much it's unrealAre those repuslors on water?
>>98209990I think you'd get 3 neophytes back, or if they sniped out a leading character with precision you could revive your Primus etc. with it. Similar to how Necrons' reanimation works.
>>98210157>because Warhammer world does whatever they fancyNta but I doubt it. Didn't they add primaris to an older diorama? There's clearly some GW decision, especially with the marketing potential of these huge dioramas.
>>98210151Eldar still play recon fine and the fire prisms look good.
>>98210162That would have been sick. It could have had different parts inspired by various spiders, like different eye arrangements/sizes or various abdomen shapes.
>>98210166>Are those repuslors on water?Looks like it as all the ork vehicles look like boats
>>98210174>Ork boatsU-boats, perchance
>>98210180Yes, the diorama even has an entire resin underwater sectionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keWRsgGIVs4&t=1s
I know people debate how strong marines are supposed to be, but what the WEAKEST we have seen marines portrayed as in official mediaDoes anything beat the original dawn of war intro where we see like a dozen marines and dreadnought killed by maybe 20-30 basic ork boyz
>>98210081GW sells models faster than they can manufacture them, they haven't hit the upper limit of what people are willing to spend
>>98210153>Onager Dunecrawlers in units of 3 models each again.only if they remove the retarded dinner plate base and just let them be free standing hull based models admech has too many wants to list>more than 1.3 playable detachments>removal of battleline rules autism>bulwark and aggressor doctrinas back in the army rule>return canticles to army rule>rangers and vanguard can be taken in 20s again
>>98210169You may find it inconceivable, but the people who work at GW like primaris marines.
>>98210142can you imagine he faggotry you have to put up with with hundreds of sweaty neck beards all wining that their specific combo isn't viable or the HR disaster that inevitably is going to happen. the hiring process alone would be a pain in the ass
>>98210190funnily enough I also thought about that old intro where the SM fights off like two girls and gets mercilessly hacked down by like three others. probably the most accurate depiction
>>98210216*orks I swear to God I don't know where that typo came from
>>98210153Bring thirty man mobs back, cowards
>>98209354they are swedish developers...
>>98210107I wasn't pointing out the typo...
>>98210155bummer >>98210041hey >>98210121
>fast strong melee infantry going up in points (berserkers/eightbound)>surge moves going up in points (berserkers)>mid range strong shooting vehicles going up in points (forgefiend)>large combat-leaning monsters and vehicles going up in points (maulerfiend/helbrute/daemon princes/angron)>large flying models going up in points (winged daemon prince/angron)>units that can re-roll charges going up in points (world eaters army rule)World Eaters are gonna be more elite than Custodes
>>98210216>>98210223>OH NO LAMENTERBRO LOOK OUT THERE’S AN ORK
>>98210190The DoW 2 also has a few marines get dropped>>98210202Good for them, still GW calling the shots lil nigga
>>98210153Add darkmech so I can get the hell out of CSM already
>>98210216>>98210257>*CLANG* *CLANG* *CLANG* >WAAAGH>*CLANG* *CLANG* *CLANG*
>>98210235picrel>>98210245You're being payed to be vague or is it a passion of yours?
Kinda wonder why they decided to make hidden/discovery the meme of this edition.
>>98210253>starting WE for 11th editionDid I fuck up?
>>98210297Yes, NEVER play the army you like the most.
I really don't want to use transportsPainting them sounds like such a slog>airbr-no room
>>98210304It's actually quite fast, just use a fat round brush for basecoating
>>98210277ChatGPT
>>98209045>TQThey’ve been flush with equipment for a long time, back when they were first founded it was a lot more difficult. Once their fortress monastery was built they started taking anything old and powerful they found, refurbishing it, and storing it in the vaults. Most of the rank and file marines had to make do with mixed armour mark suits, but this was more tradition based than truly necessary. Their problem has usually been manpower related, they lost two companies during one of their first major actions which set the tone for their future experiences. Then right before the Great Rift they lost about half the chapter to a daemonic invasion on a subsector capital they’d dropped in on. Since they got their torchbearer reinforcment they’ve been doing better and even managed to largely stabilize their home sector enough to star launching expeditions to reclaim lost workds. Food is tight however as several agriworlds were lost to tyranid invasion, tau backed uprisings, and Necron tomb awakenings. They’re currently gearing up to attack an Armoury world since it’s governor refuses to start distributing the hoarded rations and war material there without authorization form Segmentum command, which isn’t coming.>>98209082Naw. I’m working on my second Indomitus captain and a Devastator squad but I didn’t get an Armageddon box. I’ve got the Twin Lance and the Tempestus Aquilon kill team to do next.
>>98210334What did the homie on the base steal?
>>98210304I absolutely feel you, anon but it's only the basecoat that's annoying and you can do that with just the biggest brush you have. if you play nids or orks you can totally get away with speed paints as well. not recommended for things like rhinos tho
>>98209571The Eldar trilogy
>>98210344Nothing, my guys are there to take his shit after he got got.
>>98209082wuff
>>98210365and birb
>>98210365his face gives off fat angry black woman yelling at a mcdonalds cashier energy.
>>98209069>adepta sororitas animation stole my setting almost point for pointelaborate.
>>98210168It talks about neophyte hybrids, so even taking into account nu 11th, it would not affect the leader.And other new rules talk about returning models like it says here >>98210046Getting wounds back and models back a two different things.So it is either written by retards or there is a rule missing.
And some termies done
>>98210334>daemons, tyranids, tau rebels, necrons fucking shit up in your sector>decide to fight some imperial pencil pusher for his shitMANY SUCH CASES
>>98210365
>>98210445>rog chapter>rog meme
>>98210445KINO ALERTINOALERT
Hellblaster status?
>>98210463the firstborn dude who’s currently kitbashing them said the parts will arrive in a week or two, so it’ll be a while.
>>98210413Nta but you can't fight a war of attrition (and that's always what it is against nids, necrons, etc) until you have secured resources to keep your war machine going!
>>98210413I mean the hive fleet has been shattered and is mostly busy attacking Orks at the moment on the sector periphery to regain biomass, the Necrons are busy fighting eachother over who’s in charge after evicting the squatters on their lawns, and the largest extant chaos warband’s fleet was almost completely destroyed during a major battle that caused some of the warp storms isolating the sector to abate. They sector governor is the one who’s asked the chapter to help him with the Administratum flunky before the food riots get too big. They’re also in the process or retaking an agriworld from a chaos knight household but that’s slow going after they first pushed the knights off of a neighbouring hive world. Luckily its population was decimated so it hasn’t added too much to the food strain.
>>98210476Forgot the tau, they’ve agreed to a truce because they’re also fighting all the aforementioned factions and got their noses bloodied when they tried to make a push on the eastern edge of the sector and got their blue dicks caught in a three way meat grinder.
>>98209070To be fair damn near every time you see a neo nazi kicked out of a store or tournament its a black templar player. They are basically brand poison.
>>98209353>Vehicles with powerful mid-range firepowerI'm guard, what's midrange for me? Leman Russes?>Infantry units that are both fast and powerful in melee tend to have gone up a bit in points.Great. They gonna points hike Rough Riders?>Large units of 20 or more models, which were previously used to fill up large parts of the battlefield, can no longer spread out as much, due to the 9” coherency rule. Many of their points go down.100 point infantry blobs lets goooooooooooo>Stealth is now a more situational rule, as it doesn’t stack with Cover, and so many units with Stealth are set to go down in pointscheaper Ratlings is great>Indirect fire is now weaker against distant targets that no model in your army can see, and so many artillery units have gone down in points when taken individually.i am cumming in my pants
>>98210471forgot image.
>>98210471based retard
>>98210471>He doesn't know Bless your retard heart
>>98210508even if they’re a kitbash it’s still effectively hellblasters because they’re a marine squad with all plasma weapons.
>>98210394Well with a character attached it's still a Neophytes Hybrid unit, they share the keywords.
>Waacfag swears he wont waac and drive beginners away from the store this edition>First game with test rules>1k points>Playing against some kid with his first ever minis that are all badly but clearly enthusiastically painted guard>First two models he gets out his carry case are a castigator and exorcist>Attempts a cherubic expression of innocence>The rest of the stores face as Karl is up to his fucking horseshit once again
>>98210521>>Prayer of the day>>++ Blessed be the mind too small for doubt ++
>>98210521Correct. The heavy weapon box from the HH stuff has some nice shoulder mounted ones. Never had it be an issue.
>>98210249>He thought of the lightness in his spirit since he had accepted Ynnead’s voice into his life. The weight of the aeldari’s doom had been lifted from him, no matter what came next. He thought about the endless lives he had lived – lives he did not recall but could still feel in his immortal soul – and of the great cycles of the universe.>‘How many Wars in Heaven have there been?’ he asked, struck by the sudden thought. He glanced out of the window at the distant figure of the necrontyr queen who stood immobile observing the departure of the aeldari, surrounded by thousands of unmoving warriors. ‘Necrontyr and aeldari created these vaults together. Did all of this happen before?’>‘Who knows?’ replied Tzibilakhu, moving to her piloting space. ‘Perhaps in a thousand lifetimes the events that unfold around us will be known as the War in Heaven.’ So yeah, there's the Eldar mythic battles between gods, there's the 5 million year period of Old One extermination, there's this conflict where Necrons and Eldar worked together to imprison daemons. There's probably more. Eldar myths are MYTHS, not history, so a lot of stuff has happened and they don't really remember most of it anymore. These may all have been one big 5 million year war or it may have been thousands of smaller conflicts within that period that got lumped together.
>>98210127What you posted is essentially the Armageddon box, minus the scouts and swap the speeder for the land raider. The last space piggy christmas box (iron halo) was a pretty good deal too.I think it's really the aliens who get shafted by these box deals more often than not. The nig swarm is abysmal and the necron host is a big fat WHY when their current combat patrol already includes half of it
>>98210540>What you posted is essentially the Armageddon box>3 infantry, 1 transport, 1 jump infantry>4 characters, 1 infantry, 1 jump elite, 1 light vehicleI have no idea what you mean by "essentially the same".
>>98210408These look quite nice. I think SW are hard to do right, so many people shy away from the extra free handing but it honestly sells the look so much more that they look pretty dull when they're just painted in straight gray-blue.
>>98210529some waacfags are genuinely unable to understand that they're waacfagging
>>98210127>>98210540Also Tactical and Assault marines were pure trash if you're going from a shelf clearing perspective.
>>98210554nta but I think they know what they're doing but they refuse to acknowledge it because they also know they're being cunts.>I want to be a dick>being a dick gets me in trouble>So I'll be a dick but pretend I'm not being a dick till they drop the case
>>98210555>tacticals>trash>one of the best selling kits>trash
>>98210565Yes, they've been essentially useless for the entire history of the game.
Got any project plans for 11th edition in particular?
>>98210586Paint the Ork side of the Armageddon box
>>98210571So your point is that the battleforce is the same as modern ones because the point was to clear shelves of tactical marines that were already selling well but also were ass, which didn't seem to detract people from getting them?
>>98210586Paint the Marine side of the Armageddon box
>>98210546>10 squad of tactical>10 squad of intercessorsSo far the same>5 squad of jumpers>5 squad of jumpersThe same>5 man marine squad>3 man heavy weapon squadStill pretty close to being the same>swap the rhino for a speederPretty equivalent I'd say>minus the scouts>gain a bunch of HQYeah man it's essentially the same shit. Like were you hoping for an exact 1:1 recreation every time or what?
Am I tripping or was there never an official Stormseer mini before Primaris and HH?
>>98210591You're retarded if you think "shelf clearing" is an actual thing. The point is, like modern boxes, old boxes had useless shit in it.
ITT: People so mind-broken by GW they can separate models from rules.
>>98210598why would there be an official stormseer miniature? white scars don't matter
>>98210586Print and paint up a table of terrain for my LGS. Get more games in.
With the new 11th Edition. There will come Mini Starter Sets for:>Space Marines>Orks>Tyranids>NecronsDeath Guard
>>98208842Forgot to post the backside of my model.
>>98210595>>98210600>10 tacs15 tacs>5 jumpers>jump vets = assault squadI'll now assume you're trolling.>5 tac marines are "pretty close" to 5 gravis dudes with heavy boltersTrolling checks out>base transport = attack skimmerTrolling checks out>scouts = 4 HQsTrolling checks outHere's for (you)
>>98210538nta, but that Gav Thorpe book, like the one featuring the return of the Heresy-era Space Wolves 13th company, has never been mentioned again.Which is GW code for "forget about this, it never happened"The last we knew of the Ynnari, they were fucked by the last crone sword being in Slaanesh domain. So there's that.
>>98210598You may be confusing it with some nice kitbashes of old.
>>98210598Not a mini but
>>98210600>You're retarded if you think "shelf clearing" is an actual thing. GW’s strongest soldier in this thread, ready to suck and ride at any moment.
>>98209082Ive run out of time, ill get wazdakka done soon hopefully but all of the other shit i wanted to paint (kommandos, kill rig, tankbustas the list goes on forever) was never going to happen. It might take me a while to get started on the ork half of the box as i seem to always be fuckin busy these days and the friend i went halves in with it lives 4 hours away so that will be a weekend trip to drop his marines off
>>98210586Try and actually have games more often, go in a local tourney, try and make this final day list work despite gw ruining gsc for the short term
>>98210629that was only in 2018, it's a little early to say it's been abandoned. elements of the 13th great company had already returned in 3rd edition so if anything they've been remembered.
>>98210640No, I'm just not a retard. If they've got excess models lying around they throw them in the landfill, they don't take them off of shelves, have them shipped backed to HQ, and then repackage them for resale.
>>98210586maybe i will sell off all my shitty ass armies
>>98210083I think the joke was the brutal esl of the post.
>>98210538>Ynnari novel wew. >now I went and read an entire reddit chain about that shit I have no one to blame but myself.Thanks for the backfill anon.
>>98210591Tactical marines sold well because you could put whatever gun you wanted on them and they became whatever squad you needed
>>98210665>Tactical marines sold well because you could put whatever gun you wanted on them and they became whatever squad you neededAt the time space marines only ever had four power armoured squads
>>98210665So you can put whatever on them and make them anything... But they were also useless. Am I getting this right?
>>98210670Ye>>98210672They weren't great on the tabletop and more expensive than scouts for your compulsory force org slots, but if you wanted to build more devastators or something you sometimes had more guns than marines so you'd grab a tac box to put the other guns on.
>>98210679So they sold well?
>>98210686Yeah
>>98210690So they were not shelf clearing by putting them in battleforces?
>>98210672>So you can put whatever on them and make them anything...Not really. You could make them devastators, some of which were sometimes good.But then you'd really just use the devastators from the devastator box, and you'd put the useless spare guns (heavy bolters) from the devastator box on tactical marines maybe?>they were also uselessYes, there has never been a real reason to take tactical marines.
>>98210698Sure
>>98210708>they became whatever squad you needed>Not reallyThe duality of man>they were useless>but people bought themI think you confuse the kit and the unit.
A superior Space Marine battleforce.
>>98210665They sold well because you were forced to take them in gay old force org rules. Back when the game was so unpopular that they had to trick people into buying the limited number of plastic kits available to cover tooling costs.
>>98210727While I don't like reivers and the invictor, this seems like a good box for someone who's big on phobos and tacticool marines.
>>98210727
>>98210733That'd be like a box and a half ever, per player.
>>98210733Holy revisionism batman. Is that how newfags justify loving nu40k? Pretty sad & pathetic kek
>>98210747you found out about 40k in 2017
>>98210750Did you? Or was it more like 2022?
>>98210752>n-no ulmao every time
>>98210756>no uThis but unironically
>>98210727OOPS ALL REIVERS
>>98210766I never noticed that the impulsor driver had a phobos helmet, so they indeed are all phobos. You learn everyday.
>>98210727I own everything in this box minus the special character. Reivers might actually be good this edition with the battleshock and deepstrike range rule changes.
THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THIS ANYMORE.>Twenty Assault Marines (Terrible)>Ten Devastators (Schizoid loadout rendering them terrible)>Seventy Tactical Marines (Sweet Jesus)>Five man command squad >A captain.>Nine Rhinos.
>>98210727It wouldn't be so bad if phobos didn't look so retarded.Like phobos units should've all just worn the regular mk10 armor.
>another Venomcrawler box
Max size units are going to be meta this edition. Everyone wants to play Purge so you have to deny easy unit kills.
>>98210776Just buy more intercessors and call them whatever you want, chief.
>>98210775
>>98210775>a whole company of marines & transports for 450 bucks>badHey I've heard they released the new Primaris Phallus Fellator battleforce, you can get it at the local bar bathroom stall. Only for the most loyal of consumers, of course.
>>98210788I can, however doesn't change the fact that unmodified phobos units look like shit.
>>98210775>>98210790Wish I had had the money for these back in the day.
>>98210081What would the prices be at if people said fuck this shit and stopped buying models?
>>98210788nta but you don't know how to read nigga, gonna work on that fr
>>98210805They'd be the same because if GW goes kaput the next guys to take over will keep the prices where the market tolerated them and maybe a little higher even.Prices never go down.
>>98210586I hope to build a White Scars Oops! All Legends Bikes army. I'm not fooling myself here, I already accepted this project will quickly end up moving from "main" category to "side" once 11th edition kicks in. Another project I have in mind for this edition is a singleton Word Bearers army and I think it will eventually take a lead if I start to play more often than before.
>>98209845I would be more enthusiastic for this if there was literally anything but gants and VRL in the box
>>98210775I wonder what a box like that with modern sculpts would cost.Probably 500 USD at least.
>>98210775Imagine the sheer amount of extra bits.
>>98210782see >>98209940
>>98210802If they were released in 1995 you'd still love them, be honest.
I would assume the next model I paint will take less time as the first one took 4 hours.
>>98210775Remember when they sold the entire Ultramarines chapter?
Anyone got some pics of Orks with non-green skin? I googled around a bit, but couldn't find something that i really liked.
>>98210833nta but no, people are not as biased as (you). Not everything old was great. Phobos with 90s sculpt quality? Worst of both world.
>>98210149Cause it's the chapter with the biggest hateboner for orks and it is rumored that the CF will get new Pedro and veteran CFs models for 40k's 40th anniversary
>>98210833No, I wouldn't. And I'm a guy who likes primaris.
>>98210805Isn't that what's already happening? Price increases aren't just to offset inflation (we are not seeing a mere 3% cost increase, yearly, with GW prices) theyre also to offset the number of people who aren't buying new product. The remaining players, and new players, are footing the bill for those who leave the hobby or haven't bought any new models in over a decade.
>>98210850Imagine spending 11k on manlets
so wait am i understanding this right that lhykhis cant actually flickerjump at all and only inherets that ability from an attached warp spiders unit, despite the fact that lhykhis's model is literally mid-flickerjump?what the absolute fuck. did this ever get faq'd?
>>98210850If you saved 100 £ a month, it'd only take you 10 years to afford it.
>>98210854That's because green is best.
>>98210856>veteran CFs models for 40k's 40th anniversary>veteran CFs modelsHow will they fuck it up
>>98210805GW prices are largely irrelevant if you buy from the secondary market. Ebay right now is flooded with sprues from the combat patrol magazines.>Rockgrinder 30€>Neophytes 23€>Ork Boyz 13€>Chaos Terminators 29€
>>98210872They will just look like normal sternguard but with the CF's shoulderpads. That will be 80 bucks for 5 of them goy
>>98210877>They will just look like normal sternguard but with the CF's shoulderpads.How else would Crimson Fist sternguard look?
>>98210877They'd fucking do that.Sternguard kit + CF kit (same as IF kit)>5+1 pads>3 gravis pads>mk6 & mk7 helmets with fist icon>power fist holding ork head>some shitty belt blingScratch that, the power fist holding the ork head is too cool, GW would never.
>>98210880>How else would Crimson Fist sternguard look?
Remember when Havocs were a resin kit that only had one of each weapon?
>>98210874>Chaos Terminators 29€That's expensive - I bought them for 19EUR. Buying Wraithguard for 12EUR per 5 dudes feels like a steal. I ended up with 15 of them and 3 Lords for 70EUR. It's a shame I can't field them in 1000pts games anymore.
>>98210891oldslop
>>98210894It was a metal - plastic hybrid set.
>>98210896Yeah, the very best deals are gone. Its still a lot better than buying from GW directly.
>>98210894>resin havocsHuh? I must have missed that forgeworld kit if it existed
>>98210902>>98210906Why do people do this every time I bring it up
>>98210854I got this meganob in the middle I painted violet though most of the face is covered.
>>98210907Is that fucking finecast?
>>98210490Actually I play Sororitas
>>98210907Because they were metal originally and people forget finecast.
>>98210924The forgotten possessed.
>its ANOTHER discount box with gaunts and a tyrant
>>98210907Because you make it sound like you are a fake grog, pretending this was how it looked back then, in the good old times, when in fact, this garbage you posted replaced a perfectly fine plastic set with metal upgrade parts. If you would phrase your post like>remember, when they replaced those old Havocs with the garbage finecast version? Then everything would be clear.>>98210924>forget finecast.rightfully so
>>98210943They are silly in a good way. Not sure if they look much possessed, but if the idea is that they're close to becoming chaos spawn I can see that.
>>98210964>>98210943Remember the Forsaken set for WHFB? That one had actually great mutation parts
>finecastIs there a biggest GW scam to date?>the whole plan was to stop making metal to cut costs and just reuse the sculpts with resin>execs knew it was shit>staff knew it was shit>we knew it was shit>everyone knew>worse than FW resin (imagine)>Still chose to advetize it as the finest quality possible, the best of the best, the crop of the crop>Literally named "Fine cast">Is not finely casted
does anyone know a good gold for protoss gold?like not too yellow, not too orange, preferably some kind of real metallic paint. my go to is usually vallejo metal color air but they didnt have a good gold last i checked, their only gold was very green
>>98210974I always viewed WFB as the warhammer for pros/real nerds and stuck with 40k (also because I prefered space fantasy to medieval fantasy). No it's not a shitpost. Yes I still hold that belief when I look at TOW.
>>98210998It is a more interesting setting.40k suffer because marines are the most boring aspect of 40k and children keep focusing in them.
Is anyone doing blanchitsu this month?
>>98210985stay in your containment thread blizzfag
>>98210985If you already like vallejo try their true metallic metal greenish gold triad.
>>98210998Currently Necromunda is the only nerd game GW still produces because it's the only one that still encourages model conversions and scratchbuilding terrain.
>>98210943Hard to believe picrel was considered an upgrade
>>98211048That's sovl right there, zoom zoom
>>98211048these mog those
>>98211052I have 10 painted and I used to like them a lot
>>98210960idk where you're getting all of this pretense fromThose are the havocs that were being sold when I got into 40k early in 8th edition; I never claimed to be a "fake grog"
>>98211048I have a theory that people only don't like these because they're painted in the haphazard Red Corsairs scheme
>>98211013As a marinefag I actually agree.Marines are fun, but marines suffice to themselves and their chapter. That's part of what I like about them; the self-encopassing, the independence and the freedom to be anymore.But the story wise the other factions are just more interesting.The Imperial Guard has an endless possibilities of regiments, themselves having endless possibilities of companies and platoons, etc.The tragic Eldars, with their doomed race, their prophecies and the contrast of their might with how fragile and close to oblivion as they are.Chaos also has some interest but mostly in the small stories of sowing seeds of corruptions & rebellions, or the great schemes to invoke infernal creates and petty squabble of power hungry frotting madmen.Orks and the many ridiculous ways they'll create and find trouble, paired with their both surprising and frightening efficacy.Tyranids and the ways they evolve and adapt, how the GSCs add another layer to the tides and tides and tides of cunning vermins.I could go on and on but they are all really interesting to me, and it's only because of space, money and time that I cannot collect them all.Marines are cool and I can plop them anywhere with no worries, even simpler than orks in fact.I'm happy 40k takes a lot from WFB, could have taken more really.
>>98211036thanks i didnt know they did another range of true metallics. looks like between greenish gold base and maybe an arcane gold highlight i can get what im looking for, probably throw an oil wash inbetween
>>98211068They look a bit silly with any paintjob
>>98211040I might try necromunda one day, but there hasn't yet been a gang that really captured my attention. The squats are close, but I don't like their pants.I like this guy.If I ever go into necromunda I'd have to spend a lot of time making dudes I'm fully happy with, or make a gang I can reuse in 40k. Cawdor looks fun.
>>98211048The paintjob as pointed is not helping them at all, but they aren't great. The arms look alright, some of the legs are cool, but overall they are a bit weak. It's a multipart plastic kit, it shouldn't be this plain & basic.
>>98211086This. They shouldn't wear any pants.
>>98211086With Negra Inmunda you can pretty much you anything.My personal issue with modern necromunda is that houses are so fixed in an archetype that you can't really have your dudes till you are deeper in the campaign.Meanwhile things like Venator and Outcast allows you to make them your guys from the start.
>>98209065I love Necromunda. Unfortunately the group at my LGS for it fell apart because some guy wanted to be hyper-competitive with it.
>>98210946>me when my opponent says he's bringing custodes for gaming night
>>98211094I think the issue was never the kit, but the absolute shit show that was the CSM codex. Specially after people tasted the glory that was 3.5 codexSame issue happen to other armies but they didn't have a new kit that noticeable represented how shit the codex was.
>>98211086Is that a khadron overlord
>>98211095KekTheir standard look just doesn't do it for me. I like the corrugated pipe like arms, so maybe they'd look better if it was also on the thighs, but as it stands their armor distrubation doesn't sit with me. But hey, since necromunda is a handful of models I could always spend big buck on custom models of proper squat lads.
>>98211069I started playing marines and my younger self loved that Black Templars got their own codex.But as I grew older facing players that still had 12 years old codex and models from before I was born, meanwhile marines got the 12th version of the basic tactical squad upgraded, slowly eroded the fun out of the game.Switching to witch hunters/Imperial Guard and later GSC, actually made the hobby more enjoyable
>>98209845If the Tyranid one comes with the termagant upgrade sprue its probably the best put-together bundle box since 9th edition Drukhari combat patrol.
>>98211122GW decided squats, votann and steampunk dwarves were gonna share the same kind of backpack and armor layout.AoS steam dwarves do have cool weapons. They're a bit too gay for me but they could be a fun kill team of squat pirates.
>>98211139I'm sure those where meant to be Squats in 40k, but corpo didn't want squat at the time so they got thrown into AoS.Same with the SoB Repentia, they look like some Cawdor model that got sent to 40k.
>destinyfags in this thread posting fuck off destinyfag
>>98210863is there a single reason to run a phoenix lord without his unit?
>>98211107Same thing with my LGS. The worst thing was that he was an arbitrator.Was very frustrating showing up to the third game of the campaign and he had an Ambot, a champion with a heavy bolter, and multiple guys with combat shotguns and firestorm rounds.Manage to use one of my strategy cards to shoot my multimelta through a wall, hit three of them with the blast template, and roll three 1s to wound and a 2 on the ammo check.
>>98211124its always funny to me how people got so bent out of shape about votann having short beards or only mustaches, when some of the ironhead prospectors are straight up clean shaven and no one said a fucking thing
>>98211160idk, but it also means if lhykhis's unit gets killed and they are somehow still alive, they lose flickerjump for the rest of the game
>>98211165the clean shaven ones are probably female. there is a clean shaven male votann in the beserk kit
>>98211165This is because the squats looked like dwarves before anybody even saw their bare heads.
>>98211163In my case, the guy just ran all concussion rifles with his cops. Also ran a chaos cult that was all mesh armoured guardsmen with lasguns. He threw a massive fit during a prisoner rescue game and also blatantly fudged rolls for his chaos spawn stats. On the bright side I got to play some Necromunda but I don't think it'll happen again anytime soon.
>>98211165because they look better regardless
>>98211165it's because votann is destinyshit that makes everyone angry
Which of these can be corrupted into Chaos, and how easily?>Eldar (I know their souls are pledged to Slaanesh, but can you have a Chaos Eldar who isn't instantly eaten?)>Orks>Tau (I know their souls are dim, but they still exist)>Necrons (they still have souls, right?)>Votann>Tyranids (I know they have the hivemind, but can they still get corrupted?)>Genestealers>Adeptus Custodes>Grey Knights>Sisters of Battle
>>98211191Which of them can kill Chaos, and how easily?
>>98211176>look like dwarves>only remotely dwarven feature on any of the models are the belt buckets, everything else is imperial techthis general is fucking retarded.
>>98211201They love Imperium lite.
>>98211201>>98211204you guys are here rolling in the shit with the rest of pigs, you are not any better.
>>98211103That sounds fucking gay. I'm sure nucromunda has some improvements, but I'd likely stick to oldcromunda with personal fixes anyway. Take some cues from mordheim & maybe trench crusade (haven't read those rules properly yet).I think 40k could use a necromunda/kill team like campaign system where you could take anything and go on adventures. Rogue trader 2 kind of shit.>>98211134I think I getcha. I took a hobby break around ~2015 to 2020 right around the time shit like the centurions were released and already I found it fatiguing that we'd get pointless units.I love shit like a new land raider variant or the land speeder storm, shit that actually expands a faction in an interesting way>Scouts in a speeder transport? That's rad, it expands on scouts and it uses speeders as transports which we didn't do before, coolBut shit like centurions or even the stormtalon was the "equal attention cake" bit to a T. They are fun models, don't get me wrong, they are silly stupid in a good way, but I'd rather we had gotten a new weapon for razorbacks or for terminators.Then I returned to the hobby and saw the whole primaris thing and I couldn't believe it. Going from "space marine inside of a space marine" to "space marines 2: baby but big".Now modern 40k is very tiring, so I'm glad I focus on other factions. I'm still a big marine fag, but I'm focusing on quality over quantity now.My big projet now is guard soup, making platoon like forces (HQ + 3 infantry + 3 support units), and I've already gotten a bunch of extra fun models for the fun of it, like the navigator or some techpriests.
>>98211191Chaos Eldar exist pledged to or possessed by all 4 gods, though they are exceedingly rare outside of the Crone Worlds.
>>98211186Say anon, do you like Gambits?
>>98211209>I think 40k could use a necromunda/kill team like campaign system where you could take anything and go on adventures. Rogue trader 2 kind of shit.There is Shadow War Armageddon but I don't think it's quite as developed as other systems are. One of these days there'll be something.
Which Faction is the real minutes to midnight situation and closest to total collapse?Is it the Imperium or the Eldar or some other option?
>>98211212Does proto-Rex Splode count?
>>98211048These are great but the black, red and purple paint scheme is making them look like they're straight out of a McFarlane comic.
>>98211216Orks are perpetually infighting so often that it's their form of order. And they like it. They're imploding because they love it.
>>98211216>imperiumdefinitely not>eldar probably this. ynarri is essentially their last hail mary chance to get anything real accomplished, the rest of them are hanging on by a thread. people really underestimate the scale of the imperium
>Units that can manipulate battle-shock become more powerful – several will see their points increase.holy fucking retardsbattleshock still does nothingforcing a battleshock is still a 60% chance to do actually nothing
>>98211216None of them.Imperium is too big as long as Emperor's plot armour holds.Eldar already collapsed as unified faction and are reduced to small subfactions surviving. They can exist in this state for a long time but can never reclaim former power.
This is 40k's theme too.
>>98211149>>98211150>I'm sure those where meant to be Squats in 40kCould be, tho I think it could also be a case that they wanted to split the dwarves for AoS to please the burgers and so looked for a "tech dwarf" faction, and blanche & cie suggested a jules vernes like aesthetic to them.Then GW likes to keep things similar between ranges to "lure" you to their other IP, same shit they do with the rules>If you like AoS you'll like 40k!>>98211165I don't like clean shaven squats much, but at least they're all dudes and I can understand squats being different enough from squats that they like facial hair but not to the point of it needing one.Votann bare heads have bigger problems than a lack of beards.You shouldn't be surprised that nobody gives a fuck about necromunda squats either.
>>98211237This. Baldness is a sign of being a Genestealer. Like Horus.
>>98211235>the UK fucking sucksTell me about it
>>98211237>, but at least they're all dudesyou do realize that every votann kit comes with enough heads to just make them all men right? the basic hearthkin kit has like almost 30 headsyou are tilting at windmills
>>98211191Tau/orks/necrons/tyranid are chaos-proof.All humans are chaos susceptible.Eldar extra susceptible.Basically the more psykers you have the closer you are to chaos. No psykers = chaos can't get you.Of course direct exposure to warp will still mutate you.
>>98211242the war is over son, you guys can stop with the wartime ration cooking
>>98211242>SA lad creamIs it Asian flavoured?
>>98211201Imperial tech and looking like dwarves are not mutually exclusive, retard.
Reminder that the true Dwarfs of 40k are Firstborn.
>>98211214>shadow war armageddonI'll check it out, cheers>>98211227>nu van saar suitThat shit looks like an infinity mini. The guys who redesigned van saar for nucromunda completely missed the mark IMO, tech should have looked way closer to league of votann and UR-025>>98211201>short>all dudes>clearly miners>techy but also robust/oldschoolThey look dwarvy to meBut here's a better squat model
>>98211191>OrksCan turn, but it's very difficult, the Green psychic gestalt is a protective force against interference from other Warp entities, as well as Gork and Mork being actual warp entities possibly stronger than the 4 Chaos Gods. Typically it happens when a group of Orks fall into a region that is truly within the domain of a greater daemon or God, such as a daemon planet or a plane of the Warp.>TauCan be corrupted but as you note their souls are weak and it is difficult to influence them, for presumably less reward for Chaos than many other races. It would likely typically only happen if the influencing Warp entity sees it as a ploy for greater gains elsewhere.>NecronsDo not have souls. C'tan took them all.>VotannSimilar situation to the Tau, even less vulnerabilities due to the structure of their society. Presumably the most surefire way would be to corrupt a Votann itself, which we can assume is possible, though likely much more difficult than other machine intelligences.>TyranidsSimilar situation to Orks, but ramped up to 11. The Hive Mind drowns out and dampens a lot of Warp activity, which precludes Daemonic influence, however if a fleet found itself in an environment of raw daemonic power it could have an effect.>GenestealersAgain, similar to Orks via their Broodmind but just by weight of numbers I'd expect them to be much more vulnerable to it, so it's entirely possible they could even fall via more mundane means - ie not a full on daemonic warp incursion but perhaps some rituals performed by a particularly powerful sorceror could seize control.>Adeptus Custodes, Grey Knights, Sisters of BattleThey are all ultimately mortal humans, obviously with varying degrees of resistance to the influence of Chaos, but none of them would be immune and could be turned in the right circumstances.Thinking about this, I wonder what a character that is a null that believes in Chaos would be like?
>>98211257naw its you with you because people obsessed with height online are manlets in RL
>>98211191All could and have been corrupted, save for the Grey Knights who have never been turned, but the possibility theoretically remains. >EldarGood knowledge of chaos, and good psychic defences, but could be turned relatively easily with enough exposure.>OrksPretty easy, they can accidentally just start doing it.>TauHarder than humans.>NecronsIf you catch them sleeping it would probably be fairly easy. They have good defences otherwise, but they are not impenetrable. >VotannSimilar to Tau, but with a bit better awareness, would still be turned.>TyranidsCutting them off from the hive mind would help greatly. Still not outright immune from physical corruption in anycase.>GenestealersPretty routinely corrupted.>Adeptus CustodesSuper difficult to corrupt.>Grey KnightsSo far incorruptible.>Sisters of BattleUltimately just human.
>>98211245>you can all make them dudesYou know who else can all be dudes? The squat prospectors. Who come with>ZEROfemale heads, and all 5 heads come with facial hair, the only one without a mustache has fat ratling tier sideburns.You missed the point entirely.Thank god the votann come with some decent dwarf heads, but that doesn't mean they're dwarvy enough.
>>98211257GW are geniuses for making troonscale marines for faggots like you, that's all you care about kek
>>98209353>all your good models now cost 10 more>all your bad models now cost 10 lessAnd result is tge same anyway.I put together the eldar list from their demo game in current prices and it was 20pt over. Big changes.
>>98210775It's what a Space Marine army is supposed to look like.
>>98211260>>short>>all dudes>>clearly miners>>techy but also robust/oldschoolfuck off destinyfag
>>98211235I like the OG meme with the gundam
>>98211286You raise an interesting point anon without capital letters. Are there any Destiny factions like that?
>>98211269The Horus Heresy books had a Chaos null, a Culexus assassin turned by Erebus and bound to a daemon. He was edgy.
>>98210985scale 75 has the best golds on the market still. elven or dwarven gold probably closest to that image. base coat decayed metal.
>>98211191Eldar can be tainted judging by the cover art of Atlas InfernalWe have seen chaos orks before (two metal freebooters models for stormboyz of khorne and one of a mutant champion ork)Tyranids can be at the very least infected by the Obliterator Virus as seen in Storm of IronThere's an excerpt where a Genestealer cult gets corrupted by Nurgle, and one White Dwarf snippet has a short report of an investigation into the remains of a cult that might have been corrupted by Vashtorr
>>98211260>That shit looks like an infinity mini. The guys who redesigned van saar for nucromunda completely missed the mark IMO, tech should have looked way closer to league of votann and UR-025how can one man be so incorrect?
>>98211294How do you bind a null to a daemon? I had in mind a null who is a sort of nihilist, obviously sees daemons for what they are as they can't twist his perception, but works to further their aims anyways because he hates humanity that much.
>>98211303It's simple: become Jes Goodwin's second biggest simp (you will never be the first)
>>98211235It really fucking does but I must say I atleast enjoyed their sosig rolls. I wish we had Greggs in my country.
>>98211306>How do you bind a null to a daemon?Magic.
>>98211308that looks closer to nu-van saar than either men of iron or votann. nu-van saar fit mundas aesthetic perfectly. short space marines would not fit it at all.
>>98211311Obviously, but that particular kind of sorcery shouldn't have any effect on a null, since it involves entangling their nonexistent soul with a daemon.
>>98211242Everytime I see that image I want to bite into an onion.Anyone else eatan an onion like an apple, surprisingly pretty good.
>>98211317Please don't pretend you're a sorcerer or know anything concrete about the ways of sorcery.
>>98211316>short marinesNot sure what you're talking about.Van saar are supposed to have a near-complete STC, so their tech should be in line with the rest but just way more advanced + tinkered with.Nu vansaar looks nothing like the DAoT that's been established overall.
If I play Orks do I need to play them as a horde army or can I play a more elite version? i don't want to have to carry 200+ models and roll 50+ dice at once.
>>98211335>AI doesn't make the mistake of extra/missing fingers nowadays>also AI:
>>98211191>>GenestealersIn older fluff, like RT era, there were chaos genestealer cults. I guess they can be possible still, just very rare.>>Adeptus CustodesImmune to corruption>>Grey KnightsImmune to corruption>>Sisters of Battle100% possible. They just aren't mentioned often, more to do with the fact that GW basically ignored sororitas for the better part of almost 20 years, but they exist. Also in fluff the Ecclesiarchy, as you'd expect, cover and hide any fact of sisters going traitor and falling to Chaos.But we do know few that exists.Mirael Sabathiel, the best known one.Iconoclast, a sister who became worshipper of KhorneAnd then there's the entirety of Indomitus Fleet Quartus that got corrupted by Khorne during Arks of Omen, which consisted of marines, guard, mechanicus and yes, sisters of battle.When Angron channeled Khorne's power and destroyed the small psychic beacon, the psychic backlash caused the fleet Quartus to go insane and fall to Khorne worship.The few people who didn't immediatly get corrupted were swiftly torn apart and killed by their former comrades.
>>98211122Kinda looks likethey re-editted CAD files for Jakkob Bugmanson. Same general pose, but with new stuff on top of it
>>98211335You can play Orks pretty elite. Toyz before boyz is degenerate, but possible.
>>98211341>>>Adeptus Custodes>Immune to corruption
>>98211326Bro we are not talking about a real life science, we're talking about a made up one that has rules written for people to easily understand them. The one for nulls is simple, "You can't directly affect them with sorcery". The reason I used the word "particular" was because of the obvious gotcha of "I use a sorcery to lift and drop a real piece of rock on your fucking head" instead of "I try to conjure warp lightning and it disappears when it gets within 3 meters of you".
>>98211348Nah it's just modern GW being terrible at poses and sticking to the same few tactical rock bullshit.It's like the striding forward with weapon raised pose, or the wide stance attack, or the split on big rocks.I guess normies are obsessed with their minis looking like big combat winners and "badasses", rather than having an actual personality.Winning and being strong isnt a personality.
>>98211341>Immune to corruptionThe King in Yellow apparently has some corrupted custodes in his employ.
>>98211191>eldarif eldar fall, they fall to slaanesh, falling to a different god is a matter of conscious and willing demonic dealings more than conventional falling, it's not easy and it's rarely what either the eldar or the god being invoked actually wants, but it might be a desperate necessity for the former, a daring thrill for the latter, and madness for either.>orksorks have a very alien mentality, "for them the great struggle is won" is a correct assessment, they don't feel the need or want to follow other gods, the ones who are found under chaos are mercenaries that could at best sport a mutation due to prolonged contact, or the equivalent of moody teenagers going through a phase (this used to be relatively common for young stormboys becoming edgy khornates), rarer cases can involved forced prolonged contact which may warp both their bodies and their minds, but even then the ork is not a follower as much as something closer to a mad beast goaded in for the ride>tauit's theoretically very easy for a random tau to fall to chaos, but the gods are preoccupied elsewhere and with other races, so the tau are largely ignored for now (keywords), when their time comes, they may end up interacting with chaos in much the same way humans do, although it must be said that their zen-like philosophies represent something that may grant them a better fighting chance than humans or eldar have ever had, as it's been commented with farsight who's arguably the one main early target the gods have with this race
>>98211331>Nu vansaar looks nothing like the DAoT that's been established overall.No, they do.Whenever we get any sort of descriptions of DAoT stuff, mostly environments or tech, it's described to basically be generic futuristic scifi. Like minimalism, with white color and/or some tron line lights.Basically imagine cyberpunk 2077 but without the fucked up corpo shit and less punk.
>>98211363>Bro we are not talking about a real life scienceExactly, so you can't say how it works.
>>98211367>NecronsOfficially they do not have souls, and their technology is remarkably anti-warp in many ways, when they were alive they might have fallen to chaos had the gods been around to tempt them, but as it stands now chaos can only try to get necrons on their side with hard fact and logic regarding mutual goals or deals of convenience, or potentially with sheer mind/body breaking power where the gods end up with scrap metal marionettes, so it's not just a very remote possibility, but also something the gods simply wouldn't care about>VotannThey're humans, GMO humans, but still humans, so corruptible and fallible, they do have a few tools at their disposal to resist chaos better than humans, as having half-souls or shielded-souls (depending on the reading) and a close knit culture already very centered with their own soul harvesting "gods", but rogue votann and rogue kin are definitely possible and probably relatively common, we even have instances of vashtorr corrupting their ironkin, but whether that's just physical corruption or it comes with the AI themselves having a change of heart and following chaos like a cultist would is debatable>TyranidsThey're too aliens, the gods don't care about having them and the tyranids don't care about the gods, best they can do is twist their physical bodies to get yet another iteration of a mutant monster goaded to war, as the iron warriors have once done by corrupting a hive ship with the obliterator virus, but it's an overly rare occurrence if it's even possible to repeat it>genestealersfor the purestrain themselves it's like with tyranids, for the wider cults, corruption used to happen in older sources and little outright prevents it now; the cults do have their own psychic bond and strong inner culture, but they're also found at the dregs of society and put in harsh and desperate situations, and dire necessities force unconventional or forbidden measures
>>98211348as someone who actually works in 3D trust me, it would be more work re-editing one of those models into the other than just sculpting them both from scratchGW does like to do certain archetype poses across multiple kits though
Deamon Prince>True immortality>Ridiculous amounts of power>No threat to your future in sight>Get all of your desires and dreams fulfilled>Become a badass daemon with a gigantic sword to match your giagantic dickorPrimarch>Eterna youth>Decent amounts of power>No future as either Tyranids, Necrons, or Chaos will end your entire race>Have no sex drive and the limpest dick>Be a super humanChaos will do fine
>>98211368Are you talking about Fallout or Black Ops 3?
>>98211366Horus corrupted half of the Custodes who came with the Emperor to the Vengeful Spirit.
>>98211373>custodesofficially no, they're incorruptible, they may or may not be just that strong willed or whatever subtle connection they have with the emperor shields them, the one case we have of something close to falling to chaos is one custodes letting his physically body act as vessel for a dangerous demon so he may run in the opposite direction and buy time so the demon doesn't reach the emperor >grey knightsalso officially incorruptible, but this is way more explicitly explained as being mental and psychic fortitude and numerous different types and layers of techno-arcane protections in their equipment, so the distant possibility of a knight falling does exist, and there being chosen amongst the knights themselves who can or cannot deal with possessed demonic artifacts supports this, but it seems it's another of those possibilities so distant that they're effectively impossible>sisters of battlenot officially incorruptible, as we do, or at least did have, cases of sisters falling to chaos in the conventional sense, but their faith is strong enough that it apparently makes their corruption near impossible, and more akin to exceptions than examples
>>98211335I once saw an Ork player rape a CSM player by using an all-mechanized army to snipe the CSM's anti-vehicle troops on turn 1. The Ork player had about four squads of actual infantry total and half of them never even dismounted. Everything else was Rukkatrukks, Bonebreakas, Dragstas, Scrapjets, Warbikers, etc...Game was basically over before the CSM player even had a turn.
>>98211379The latter
>>98211377>>True immortalityuntil your god says "no">>Ridiculous amounts of poweruntil your god says "no">>No threat to your future in sightuntil your god says "no">>Get all of your desires and dreams fulfilledonly after stripping yourself of all your mortal desires and dreams beyond what serves and appeals to your god to the point you're his extension more than an individual >>Become a badass daemon with a gigantic sword to match your giagantic dickno counter to that
>>98211320Many (are not) saying this.
>>98211367>"for them the great struggle is won" is a correct assessment, they don't feel the need or want to follow other godsI never read that line as a spiritual commentary, I took it to refer to the general malaise that hangs over other sentient races as they work through societal strife, broader questions of intelligent purpose or post-physicality. Orks have answered those questions in the only way they're capable of - never stopping to ask them.
>>98209919would it kill gw to give us a chaos box that didn't include legionaries?
>>98211377Post the cuckold soul pasta
>>98211372Why are we having a fucking discussion about the corruptibility of various factions in the first place, then, if the one case of "Chaos can't fuck with this" established doesn't actually have any rules it follows?
>>98211418Maybe they wont suck in 11th?
>>98211379Black Ops 3/CoD: Infinite Warfare/Titanfall
>>98211368>Basically imagine cyberpunk 2077 but without the fucked up corpo shit and less punk.That's not how DAoT tech has been portrayed everywhere else.the DAoT look as very much been established by Jes Goodwin, and you find similar/identical cues everywhere, with various bits of tech referencing each other.DAoT tech has this clean, retro-future look, not just generic cyberpunk 2077 sci-fi.There is a cohesive look to the DAoT technology that is shared across space marines, imperium and votann, to name the big ones, and nu van saar doesn't share it.Now it's okay if you prefer it, but I'm not gonna pretend like I should, nor that DAoT tech looks like that.
>>98211425>Why are we having a fucking discussion about the corruptibility of various factions in the first placeBecause a guy asked a question about it.>if the one case of "Chaos can't fuck with this" established That is simply your misconception, Chaos can indeed fuck with it.
I like astronauts.
>>98211377Deamon Prince>True immortality>Ridiculous amounts of power>No threat to your future in sightThe Chaos God you serve is the threat. Fail them or piss them off too many times, dying would be less shitty fate in store for you. And they can at any point take away your immortality and powers.>Get all of your desires and dreams fulfilledUntil the God monkey paws the fuck out of you.>Become a badass daemon with a gigantic sword to match your giagantic dickUntil your god decides you're annoying dipshit and turns you into a Ken doll out of spite.
I am unhappy because the most fashionable Arasaka armor is unavailable to the player. I am unhappy enough to inject Genestealer cells into an unborn baby who will then try to drive a meteor onto the planet.
>>98211441>That is simply your misconception, Chaos can indeed fuck with it.Or, shocker, GW doesn't have as firm a hand on the leashes of their BL authors as they would like you to believe and shit like this and "Uhhh tau genestealer hybrids being absorbed into a hive fleet would break up the Hive Mind signals and destroy the Tyranids" slips under the radar from time to time and should be dismissed out of hand when it is found.
Is it true that painting white miniatures is a pain in the ass?
>>98211439>That's not how DAoT tech has been portrayed everywhere else.It has been. It's in all of the books, novels and short stories, and all of those are canon.Also that votann thing is a perfect example of generic scifi, it's just a humanoid robot with an industrial/minimalist design and a dome head. It's very generic as a design.
>>98211460there are ways to do it, but yes, white pigments are more problematic than other pigments
>>98211460The secret is to use light gray.
>>98211460just prime white and learn that painting white actually means painting offwhite not pure white
>>98211453>picrelnta but I hate that modern writers refuse to write proper bad guys. The guy has to be the poor misunderstood abused child or fight something that's also bad so it's not so evil, or actually not that evil mmmh he has a point think think.I don't want relatable characters, I don't want sympathetic villains. I want interesting stories, I want the power hungry super retard to use brute force, cohersion, deceptions, temporary truces & other shacky alliances, etc. To get what he really wants: to be the top dog, because he's obsessed with being the most powerful guy ever with mountains of riches under his ass, pleasure slaves at his feet and legions under his command, while the dark gods grant him all his wishes for he deserves it. He deserves it all.
>>98211458>Or, shocker, GW doesn't have as firm a hand on the leashes of their BL authors as they would like you to believe and shit like thisExcept it's not the first or last time the null effect has been overcome with magic.>Uhhh tau genestealer hybrids being absorbed into a hive fleet would break up the Hive Mind signals and destroy the TyranidsThe idea of poisoning the Tyranids or the Tyranids trying to avoid bad genes getting into their supply is not novel to that situation. These are just cases of you having a limited notion of how things work and becoming fixated on it to the exclusion of everything else.
Does anyone know if the howling banshee exarch face plate fits on any of the heads in the kit? Or just the exarch specific head?Considering bits ordering more face plates so I can get the crested helmets on the while squad but I don't want to spend unless I know it will work and I've never bought that kit before so I don't know myself
>>98211467Sorry bro I didn't know you was blind like that, carry on.
>>98211487Vect is our last hope for an unapologetic bastard villain. They can't possibly try to make him sympathetic or relatable.
>>98210393I homebrewed a planet for my buddy and myself to play a thematic crusade. my orks against his sisters. the planet is a factory world directly under the influence of the sororitas, since a bunch of sisters died there some years ago defeating some demons and the world was regarded as "consecrated by their blood and bones". orks just crashed there since it looked like scrap to loot and have been a taint on the holy world ever since. the terrain I imagined and the basing for my boyz (muddy, rocky terrain, minimal to no foliage) is exactly like they showed in their animation. my WAAAGH is led by a mek who wants to get off planet again for bigger fights so even that is almost identical. just feels like they invade my brain at night
>>98211460Don't prime white >>98211472Prime light gray >>98211470
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>>98211496Fuck off baitnigger
>>98211490All head options in banshee kits are interchangeable, even helmets
>>98211511Okay cool, thanks.
>>98211510NTADo you just sit in these threads trying to police discussion 24/7?I feel like I see your spergouts anytime I peak in here now
>>98211487But anon, we still have villains who though tragic, are still villains doing evil knowing it's evil who must be stopped.
>>98211488>Except it's not the first or last time the null effect has been overcome with magic.I'm aware of some of them, none of them have involved daemon binding and the cases I can recall have basically been like burning out a resistor - it would not function the same way afterwards.>The idea of poisoning the Tyranids or the Tyranids trying to avoid bad genes getting into their supply is not novel to that situation. It is not but it is misunderstanding Tau biology as being something that would result in such a threat after genestealer hybridization.
>>98211490Could always buy the kit, test the plate on each head, and then see if you should order? Would that work?
>>98211510>>98211515>They say mimicry is the purest form of flattery>>98211519Where are they? In anime?
>>98211358>>98211380Now I don't want to be the one defending custodes but, more than corruption that was mind control fuckery
>>98211519>mfw that was him at 23
>>98211520>I'm aware of some of themThen you should be aware that magic can indeed have an effect on a blank.>none of them have involved daemon bindingWell this one does, so add it to your dataset.>It is not but it is misunderstanding Tau biology as being something that would result in such a threat after genestealer hybridization.I've not read the book so I can't comment on the specifics, but there are so many variables you could include to explain it.
>>98211402They're missing out, put a bit of Vegemite on it for some salty goodness and you've got a great snack.
>>98211547Nah, it was mental corruption.
>>98211571When angron corrupted a whole crusade fleet the custodes were 1 of the 3 groups not affected by it so it's more than just corruption.
>>98211209>My big projet now is guard soup, making platoon like forces (HQ + 3 infantry + 3 support units), and I've already gotten a bunch of extra fun models for the fun of it, like the navigator or some techpriests.I hate that in modern 40k making a proper army is not supported by the rules.I mean older editions changed things and even in meme armies like Witch Hunters, you only got more options as time went on or things got condense into a less schizo build (Inquisitors got more flexible over time but still kept their goon squads, unlike today)But now? Will my units keep their current gear options? will they lock me out of a squad size (Acolyte went from 5 to 20 models from 3rd to 8th to 15 max in 9th to 10 max in 10th). Will an existing unit since forever be gone even though they still sell them in the new kit (looking at you Boltgun Celestians)I have no idea how the rules will fuck up my armies. Something I never had to consider for almost 30 years.
>>98211595No, it just means their corruption resistance is higher than what Angron could bring to bear.Angron is not as powerful as Horus was, so it makes sense.
>>98211596I don't like modern rules either. Too gamey, not enough army autism.That's why I'm writing my own rules and collecting for fun.Modern GW is not your friend.
>>982116311. You can see the pussy2. Thats a weird pussy
>>98211637nuh uh, the leaf is covering it.
>>98211631>attempt rape but she consents
>>98211610>No, it just means their corruption resistance is higher than what Angron could bring to bear.Not him, but Angron channeled Khorne's entire power when he destroyed the beacon. He channelled the entire power of a GOD, the one who is also consistently referred to be the strongest one at any given time.And on top of this the Custodes were basically at the fucking epicentre of the "pulse" that corrupted and drove every human mad on the planet and then in the fleet around it.Custodes are immune to corruption, what Horus did in End and the Death was just him puppeteering their bodies with the powers he got from the chaos gods. Like a puppeteer and his marionettes.That is what happened.
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>>98211650>Not him, but Angron channeled Khorne's entire power when he destroyed the beacon.No he didn't.>Custodes are immune to corruption, what Horus did in End and the Death was just him puppeteering their bodiesNo it wasn't, they were driven mad by the whispers. It was their own thoughts being corrupted and turned against them.
ultra early WIP first coats of paint blocking in two whole colors.
The only things I want out of the ork range refresh is big tanks.
>>98211680>No he didn't.He did. Read it.>No it wasn't, they were driven mad by the whispers.Nope. The custodes didn't even go mad, they just were confused as to what they were doing since their bodies didn't obey their own mind.Again, actually read it instead of being dumb and digging your hole deeper.
>>98211631>h*nkai
>>98211294I thought it was a vindicare
>>98211728>He did. Read it.He didn't. I have.>Nope. The custodes didn't even go madYes they did, they started confused as Horus sapped their focus, then they went mad and turned on the Emperor. >their bodies didn't obey their own mind.That's the exact point though, it was their own minds being subverted. Part of their minds were able to resist, but the greater part did not.
>>98211645I knew they were anti-sex.
>>98211790Nope. They weren't corrupted or mind controlled, their bodies were hijacked and controlled like puppets, that's what happened.
>>9821179240k botes when?
>>98211798Incorrect. Their minds were subverted and corrupted. The PoV Custodian says that Horus broke their minds and twisted their souls. That's corruption, plain and simple.
Blood Ravens stole this.
>>98211331>Nu vansaar looks nothing like the DAoT that's been established overall.I DONT CARE HOW BIG THE GALAXY IS. EVERYTHING SHOULD LOOK THE SAME. EVERYTHING SHOULD LOOK THE SAME. FORTY THOUSAND YEARS OF HUMAN TECHNOLOGY SHOULD ALL LOOK THE SAME!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAA! NOO! YOU CANT JUST HAVE AN AESTHETIC UNIQUE TO NECROMUNDA EVERYTHING HAS TO LOOK LIKE PRIMARIS 40K SLOP. PRIMARCHS! PRIMARCHS! PRIMARCHS! PRIMARCHS! PRIMARCHS! PRIMARCHS! PRIMARCHS! AAAAAAAAAAA! GW RELEASED EPIC MODEL URINE ZERO TWENTY FIVE AND ALL ROBOTS SHOULD LOOK LIKE IT. I HAVE AUTISM, FRANK. I HAVE FUCKING AUTISMMMMMMM.
>>98211808No he didn't.Their bodies were only puppeteered.
>>98211849We all know the proper 40k aesthetic is a specific subset of Imperial with gothic skulls and cathedrals>muh chaosNot 40k>muh TauNot 40k>muh eldar>necrons>nidsNot 40k>muh guard>muh marines who don't have skullsNot 40k
>>98211852He did: >you twisted the pristine souls of the Custodians. Each one of us was painstakingly restructured on a molecular level to withstand the corruption of Chaos, but you took the incorruptible and you broke our minds. You broke the unbreakable.Meanwhile the word "puppeteered" is never used once in the sequence.
>>98211849If you don't have autism why are you here?
>>98211880>You broke the unbreakable.Hours was an Ork the whole time. That explains the baldness and Abaddon's topknot looking very Squig-like.
>>98211886But muh hurus is a jeanstealer!
>>98211880Slop writing, not canon.
>>98211929All Custodian writing is slop writing.
>>98211937Yes, however End and the Death as a whole is just pure slop.
>>98211880Porn games I play have better writing.
>>98211954I agree that Corpse Party is better.
>>98211383>absolutely shitcanning some faggot on turn 1PEAK gameplay tbqh. This fact alone completely SHATTERS any arguments in favor of alternating activations
>>98211929>>98211954>Malding CustoidsSorry, your golden girls are mind broken Chaos-sluts.
>>98211957Most good players agree that going second is actually the biggest advantage.
>>98211957I felt bad for the CSaM player, but at the same time, his models were merely painted okay, while the Ork player's models were scarily well-painted and kitbashed, like, "shit that gets reposted to every website because even people who know nothing about painting can tell it's impressive" tier. It made cosmic sense for the Ork player to have the game in the bag on turn 0.5, I don't know how else to put it.That said, it did convince me that my suspicions about the rules were correct and that this game is kind of bullshit sometimes.
I told my friend Lion is the strongest primarch, he called me a retard and told me to talk here because he doesn't want to argue. I think he knows he is wrong but I will prove him wrong. I am right, right anons?
The strongest Primarch.
>we will be nerfing melee units>we will also be nerfing blood surging unitsyeah because 10th had such a melee and blood surge issue. Thats exactly what melee needs. Who the fuck is on the design team?
>Horus>not egypt themedI sleep
>>98212003Your vote goes towards my side. Doom guy is lion coded
>>98212003Okay doomer
>>98212007I knew doomguy was gay
>My name is Horus>I have to live with this shit name because my grandma likes egypt myths>I discover warhammer>Someone tells me Horus is super strong>oH Shit OH shit Oh shit >Finally something good towards my name>Discover he is bald like me>Horus carries bald curse>Discover he is a bitch that betrayed the emperor and will cause the empire to eventually die>Discover he fucked up humanity>Discover he regretted it at the endFuck bitch ass Horus
>>98212006Your new Horus.
>>98212006>magnus>primarch of the egyptian legion
>>98212003Doomguy is pretty clearly a perpetual
>>98212006>Ahriman >not Iranian themedI sleep
What is GW doing with the Eldar, they are taking models which should be really appealing and presenting them in the worst way possible. Craftworld Ulthwe should be the default coloring rather than these red and white abominations.
>>98212094Guess which one is significantly easier to paint?
>>98212094>UlthweYou mean Iyanden
>>98209845>Guard boxThis feels like the most hodge-podge selection of models I've seen in one of these boxes. Why both a Commissar and a Command Squad? Why a Basilisk when everyone is running Artillery Teams these days? I get it's trying to show off all three aspects of Guard (Infantry, Tanks, and Artillery) but I feel like it could've done a bit better>CSMThis is just a worse Hellforged Warband. 20 Cultists feels like a scam compared to getting a Rhino and some Havocs. With all the datasheets in CSM they really couldn't have made this one any different from the one that released less than a year ago? Like hell, replace the Disco Lord with a Daemon Prince or something at the very least. >NecronI don't collect Necron, but this seems like a decent starter box for the army? You get a bunch of battleline, a character, and some various dudes to fill different roles. IDK from an outsider perspective this one seems fine. >TyranidsThis feels like another solid starter box, any Nids player wants everything in this box for the most part (Except the Von Ryan Leapers, but if you only have 3 from Leviathan I guess you could make a whole six-man blob). If I wasn't gonna be bogged down by starting Orks this edition I'd probably get this one. Final rankings: Nids > Necron > Guard > CSM
>>98212096It's extra funny using this comparison considering Dark Eldar have like one paint scheme they have ever been shown with and they use it for all three of their main subfactions. Admittedly, the black and green is a good look.
>>98212096No I mean the true superior Craftworld. Biel Tan would also have been acceptable.
>>98212095The one where you can prime the body black and do edge highlights, probably
>>98212107>Edge highlights on black>Easier than a white prime and some red contrast slop
>>98212127Unironically, yes. You can clean up the highlights with black paint to make them look nice and crisp. Genuinely easier than making contrast look good on super flat panels of a Eldar Guardian.
So how the fuck do I field six Killa Kans with the same loadout if you only get one of each weapon for every 3 Killa Kans?
>>98212138you convert, or you field shit with random mixed loadouts which is the more orky option anyways
i am going to build a xeno army this edition. should I into Tau or Necrons? Gameplay is an irrelevant factor
>>98212153I like necrons more so them
>>98212153Necrons if you're a basic bitch, Tau if you're a weeb
>>98212153tau. auxiliary release wave incoming. trust.
>>98212153As a 3-5th Edition Necrons player, I think it all comes down to what you are interested in. Necrons can go infantry horde or elite to Hyper Elite monster mash army, but tend to be shorter range and focused around the revival rule. Tau lack that sort of infantry defense - unless you have an Ethereal giving out FNPs, but you can take a significant selection of armored tanks and Battlesuits to even the odds. I'm starting a Tau army in July, personally.
>>98212153Depends; how do you feel about anime gooner shit?
I also am thinking of building a Xenos army this edition. Which are better mercs, Votann or Drukhari?
>>98212183Deldar are almost certainly getting some sort of refresh this edition. Maybe pick up a leader and see if you like painting them, then wait for the new shit to drop?
I kinda wanna get into sisters now that my 1k CSM army is complete. What other factions do you guys recommend
>>98212183votann are arguably not a xenos army at all. go with dark eldar if you want the experience of a xenos army. not that votann arent fun to model and play, but with bolters, terminators, land raiders and tactical marine infantry, they are basically just a space marine army stuck in 4th ed minus dreadnoughts and jump marines. they dont feel like xenos to collect or play, they feel like space marines
>>98212183what does mercs mean, kroot?
>>98212190The one you think is cool and like their minis.
>>98212183Third Answer: Orks
Who are the most british space marines
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>>98209940seems they finally got rid of their excess CSM rhinos
