Ringa dinga ding Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98290553 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questions:Thoughts on ogor's general body shape becoming rounder with the new update?
>TQButcher looks funny, rest is normal
>>98297403They don't make gifs like this anymore
>>98297656>TQ tho:I'm a fan. I hope they're taller than the old models since Ogors are supposed be like 10x10' fat fucks. Girth looks good, but what about length?
>TQI think they're a bit too fat really.Is a darkoath only army viable and/or fun?
>>98297703>Is a darkoath only army viable and/or fun?You can make it they have like 4 heroes and 3 units, but idk how good weakest horde chaff only build is
>>98297403The only round thing I don't like is Redditor's base. But he does give you 2 gutseers, so it's not all bad
>>98297750I think that'd be pretty hard. Darkoath are just kind of bad.Not to mention, that'd be very expensive.
>>98297673JUGGERNAAAAAAAAUT
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>>98297793Not a fan of the shrunken heads. GW has been doing that a lot lately.
>>98297793I'm surprised they didn't really scalecreep much, especially as it would actually have been justifiable in this case. They did make em a good bit wider from the looks of things though.
>>98297793>>98297807Can someone enlarge the head a bit?
>>98297814Gotchu bruz
>>98297807I don't mind. It makes them look larger.
>>98297818Perfect
>>98297818We were robbed, bros
>>98297793I figured the new ogres are roughly half a head taller when I was comparing them to the current ones. And my converted ogres are half a head taller than the new ones.
Looking forward to Brodd's prayers.
>>98297925I hope gits get some good shit, they need it
>>98297981IIRC they're getting a new spell lore.
>>98297807For a fantasy race I personally don’t mind, it kinda makes sense more than anything. I’m not a fan when they attempt true scale in dwarves though. That’s when it’s a problem imo.
Now that we know the Mortal Realms are being squatted and replaced with The Last World, what world building beats do you hope to see in the new upcoming setting? Personally I’d like to see Warhammer Africa fleshed out so that CoS don’t have to look demographically like the cast of Nolan’s Odyssey
>>98297793Datedness of the oldgors hit me like a train with this side by side
>>98298069I cant even look at the stone horn anymore because it gives me such whiplash as well.
>>98298083The monster is still solid imo
C H A M O N
>>98298130This is what some people wanted seraphon to go into design wise. Personally I wish they maintained their order demon status.
>>98298138Those aren't exclusive
>>98298138them being order demons was fucking retarded
>>98298177show me a demon with a gun.
>>98298184
>>98298184Outside of the Skull Cannon and the Demon Engine?
>>98298196When this released in WHFB I thought it was retarded. Now I think it's awesome. Time does funny things.
>>98298197>Demon EngineSoul Grinder*
>>98297793it's just so much better, can't wait to see the remaining units
>>98298138>Personally I wish they maintained their order demon status.This was fucking stupid and should be relegated to a subfaction (like it is now) at absolute most
>>98298055I hope we get our own version of Kislev
>>98298196Boddied that freak
>>98298055>implying that ever workslollmao
>>98298055I know this is a shitpost but I doubt the continents and places of TLW will meaningfully resemble their real-life counterparts
>>98298212I could work if they went full unga bunga with it. Ebony soldiers with lion pelts, pygmies with blowdarts etc. would be fantastic additions. With that foundation in place, the black folk in CoS would at least have a leg to stand on.
>>98298208AOS already did and its rumored thats whats going to be in tlw.
>TOW gets releases>/aosg/ goes back to being slower than /wfg/At least we have /hhg/ keeping us from being the slowest/least engaged audience. Grim looking forward though, considering I think it also mimics irl engagement.
>>98298230>considering I thinkYou can do that?
>>98298225no it's not, it's just some root kings tier background blurb>>98298230we're at about the same pace
>>98298241>ulfenkarn >root kings tier background blurbSure....
>>98298241Our general went up two hours earlier and 1/4 of the posts here are ToWddlers shitposting. It's pretty bleak.
>>98298224>could workno, it couldn't having a designated DEI faction never stopped gw from forcing DEI in factions where it doesn't belong, and the existence of some equivalent of south africa never justifies the equivalent of europe to be a melting potnot only it wouldn't work, but it would sell like shit because nobody finds it cool enough to collect AND it would be viewed as racist because any and all associations or reminders of african tribes is seen as derogatory
>>98298221Nice purse, faggot
>>98298242>vampires are kislevbuddy>>98298244Yeah, in the middle of the night. You're also not fooling anybody by using towddlers to try and blend it. Apply yourself next time
>>98298271his flail went limp, dont call him a fag unless you want it to get sturdy.
>>98298263>nobody finds it cool enough to collect AND it would be viewed as racistOnly by activists. Actual people aka paying customers don't care about imagined racism in toy soldiers and a proper african-inspired fantasy faction would be novel and cool.
>>98298263I genuinely don't understand why TOW is the only game that's allowed to not have the forced DEI. I genuinely wash in shock when they previewed the marauders and they were all European males. The Cathayans are all Chinese, the Europeans are all European. None of this forced DEI slop like the rest of GW settings have to deal with. I am somewhat jealous tbqh.
>>98298283It's there, but more subtle. Female bretonnian knights for example. Obese female chaos lord, too.
can you guys at least try and be a little less obvious next time
>>98298281activism is the one and only reason why anyone ever considered adding women and black people to kits, or why anyone would consider adding an african faction to the gameactual people aka paying customers don't want those, they want their army men, and occasionally some cheesecake on the side
>>98298283So you completely missed the niggering of the empire? How they've supposedly always had nogs in there?
>>98298300>Obese Female Chaos LordIt’s Chaos, what’s wrong with that?
>>98298307I agree
>>98298283I was more shocked at how bad these look with the weapons and all the visual noise.
>Janny and his 13 yrar old discord kittens trying to derail /tg/ againSad
>ogre art next weekAw hell yeah
>>98298308https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/the-old-world/armies-of-the-old-world/empire-of-manTake a look at the Empire models they sell on their webstore. Literally any single CoS unit has more blacks in it than the entire Empire webstore has blacks on display. Infact infinitely more because the Empire webstore has a grand total of 0 blacks. If that's what you call a niggering I wonder what you call the state of the CoS.
>>98298221Congrats on passing your priest exam, too bad you still can't swing for shit
>>98298300Hidden Bret female knights are a thing in the old lore too. So are female Chaos Warriors leading warbands. One of the earliest Gortrek and Felix stories is literally about a female Chaos Warrior leading a warband of beastmen trying to track down her child daughter and kill her in exchange for daemonhood
>>98298321I'm not sure what's to get hyped about. They'll just be reuploading some pics with no additional context or commentary.
>>98298327>hiddenanon...
>>98298328they might show some of the new art ahead of time
>>98298335We don't talk about Graham Mcneil slop here anon
>>98298321I wonder if they will show some new things from the battletome they haven't released yet
>>98298328means ogors are likely announced this weekend.
>>98298327These knights are not hidden though, it's played off as normal. Female chaos chieftains are a thing, but the combination of obese and female is just too implausible for my taste.
>>98298328I really hate that they ONLY use aos art when the whole point of these is to show how shit has changed over time, which doesn't really work if your stuff is 10 years old at the absolute most
>>98298355who cares.
>>98298355It works. Thr issue is it's in random order
>>98298323Empire state troops are literal monkeys. With the resin character as the king gorrila. They are spiritually more black than anything aos has.
>>98298359I care, I want to see as many of the artworks gw has produced over the decades but it doesn't seem like they even bothered to archive it themselves
>>98298351The obese thing is a weird hill to stand on, considering she literally isn't obese and that AoS Darkoath are the only ones with Obese Chaos women in their ranks.
>>98298323CoS are a bunch of cities with completely different cultures locations and people, full of reclaimed savages to boot, it makes sense for them
>>98298376>the terminator proportions on the model of the left
Ogor box next week since they are doing the art article for Ogors next Friday>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/joqokny4/warhammer-art-through-the-years-lumineth-realm-lords/>Join us next week when we’ll be showing off a feast of Ogor Mawtribes art.
>>98298376genuinely what were they thinking with darkoath maraudersthe rest of the range looks fine too
>>98298383Yes she's literally mutated by chaotic gifts, as can be seen by the massive horns jutting out of her head. But you can see on her face, she isn't fat. Meanwhile AoS has the Skrillex lesbian haired obese chaos women.
>>98298376She is definitely obese, just compare her to the female darkoath chieftain. I also don't understand how this is a contradiction, both images are implausible in lore and hideous to look at as a concept.
>>98298395to be fair the one on the right is purposefully hideous, I dont know whats the intention with the tow one. Just looks goofy.
>>98298390>genuinely what were they thinking with darkoath maraudersthe order to the sculptors was to make chaos marauders BUT in a way that would humanise them and show that they're still normal people, which apparently means not giving them dehumanising helmets or masks, and giving them a diverse range of genders and bodytypesthe same direction was applied in parallel with the cities of sigmar range, where they wanted to emphasize that they're not professional hardy soldiers but civilian levies, and that there too means giving them dehumanising(read: cool) helmets and giving them tired ugly faces and unfit bodies here and there
>>98298395>don't believe your lying eyessad, but delusion is the last refuge of a desperate man.
>>98298390>projecting body positivity is more important than the integrity of our IP and our customers' preferencesis exactly what they were thinking
>>98298406>means givingNOT
>>98298376>she literally isn't obeseI guess it's American hours now
>>98298390Probably that the core audience will either support it or won’t dislike it enough to impact sales. You have to remember there is big finance that applies pressure from the top down of society to induce social changes they desire
Obviously Darkoath look like dogshit (90% of them at least). Why are people here trying to defend them lmao. Pick your battles lads you’re dragging all of us down with your shitty opinions.>>98298419
>>98298428Nah they're cool. they have better potential that they didn't match up to (see any underworlds or warcry band of them), but the heros are good for what they are, same for the cav.
>>98298432>same for the cavthis cav?
>>98298406Steelhelms being a bunch of fat bumbling idiots kind of works (I still dislike the kit, but for other reasons like the bib), but on what are supposed to be chaos marauders it just fails.
I guess someone got realy mad nobody liled his AI recolours and now wastes his time spamming at an hour where most prople won't even see it
>>98298448Nta but the cav is fine. Would've liked some helmets though.
>>98298448yep. Really like the motifs of the demons they have and shoulder-pads, and the horses. Granted I really only like their spears/javelins weapons.
HELPCan any kind anon share 3ed and 4ed Cities of Sigmar tomes?
>>98298493Was 4e even scaned?
>>98298506I don't think so, we're still waiting on sylvaneth and dok too Though morathiposter did provide us with pics for the latter at least
>>98298376>female chaos lord what woke trash holy shit WHFB would never
When is Spiderfang getting updated? I don't trust GW to buy into them now
>>98298428It's honestly just the marauders imoThe chief is kino, the warqueen, savagers, and mounted chief are nice, the horses and wilderfiend are nice, but the basic marauders are just comically bad.
Bros save me im gonna consoooooooooooom
>>98298538Sorry, wrong image.
>>98298538Who cares man I don't have shares and if I did they'd go up either way?
>>98298538>knights in 4/8>warriors in 8/16Seems a tad impractical for use as StD
Hoping Hashut gets some more models that are chaos dwarfs and not not hobs. I know I'm playing it wrong, but I just can't trust slaves in combat and need more elite infantry options
HOW THE FUCK is City Ogor quite larger then these newly released Ogors? He fucking towers over them per Minicompare.
>>98298551a second wave is assured for them, likely additions are the lammasu, spells and scenery, but I wouldn't count on another infantry unit
>>98298542>>98298538really spoiled between the two, this might be my fisrt venture into ogres
>>98298538>>98298550Yeah the sizing is weird but they look good enough that I don’t mind spending a bit more for them.
>>98298542Harry the Hunter looking bozos. They would look so good if they didn’t give them shrunken heads. What the FUCK were they thinking?
>>98298551I want at least one more HG unit because I want to just throw waves of slaves at people despite I don’t think that’s how the army is meant to be played.
>>98298555if the city ogre was normal sized then the dumb concept wouldn't work because he would be too small for itif you want some handwaved explanation for the size difference then it's due to city ogres growing up in a different environment: no migrations, no fighting, no gorging on animal fats and proteins, only multiple small meals of mostly processed grains and simple small people work, so they grow taller but lean and weak
>>98298569eh, I think they look fine. Its hard to imagine them with heroic proportioned heads if anything else now.
>>98298569small heads make the models look bigger and less cartoony
>>98298376>amerifats trying to normalize obesityYou're beyond pathetic lmao
>>98298376Nikoavocado looking bitches
>>98298464>Nta but the cav is fine. Don't forget to refresh your Blizzard subscription.
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>>98298555I had to check this and you are correct. Weird.>>98298577Lore states that City Ogors they are both smaller and weight less.
>>98298573they can throw out a HG archer or wolfrider unit pretty easily surely
>>98298538If you like the models get it, above all elseI don't think the fantasy tabletop market is big enough to have an inbred war over toy soldiers. and honestly at least TOW still has flavorful rules, I'd rather not gw be rewarded for writing soulless shit even though they're getting money either way
>>98298532Don't, they are going out, bonesplitterz way
>>98298635it aint over till the spider rumor engine image says its over.
>>98298612Lol
>>98298532that's like reverse russian roulette anonThen again they lasted two editions longer than I thought they would, maybe they'll do something with them after all>>98298612kek
>>98298555the tyrant is closer to the warhulk
Feels a little odd to even bring it up since StD have gotten so much over the years, but anyway, do you think the army could use some manner of Chaos Dragon? Or a Chimera or Manticore? "Ginormous flying monster" is covered by Archaon but it feels like such a classic concept that I personally find it a little odd that there's no generic unit that quite hits the mark in their current model range.
Fourth and final batch. For fun, read it and share your verdict.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bobwu6bk/scourge-of-aqshy-free-rules-for-the-forces-of-destruction/
>>98298721>There’s also a new warscroll for Huskard on Thundertusk, Plunder of the Mawtribes artefacts, and Well-Fed Beasts Monstrous Traits. All of these new Ogor updates can be used as soon as the new General’s Handbook drops with the current battletome, though they have been written with the new battletome in mind, and so can be used for the entire year-long season.
>>98298719StD is a very down to earth faction
>>98298721Ive only skimmed it but it seems better than what order overall got.
>>98298719I will always advocate for more dragons, so yeah.In general they've got a lot of random monsters, between the karkadrak, whatever abraxia rider, all the warcry random shit, ... but not really a classic flying monster.
>>98298721>BCR painted with brown furUgh...
Feels like the magic is gone in AoS. Sometime during third it was lost for me and now in fourth edition it’s completely gone. Gone are the flavor and fun of 2nd. Replaced with soulless 40k like churn.
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>>98298721GSG knick-knacks are pure thematic gold
>>98298757bruh shut up
BCR Rimewyrms soon?
>>982987885th starter will be Silent Ones Vs Rimewyrm riding Firebellies
>>98298719I personally don’t care for dragons but I wouldn’t mind some flying worms or wryms or wurms.
>>98298721>>98298721Killaboss on foot seems good but gnashtooth can only drag target put on your turn and costs 80 more.But the flavor is good all around
>>98298721it kind of bothers me how much of the new scrolls wants you to do shit with the new meme rage dice thing but other than that seems pretty fun
>>98298719StD got: In 1st edition >Archaon>Varanguard >Gaunt Summoner X2 >Darkoath Chieftain >Darkoath Warqueen >UW Warband In 2nd edition >8 Warcry Warbands >Raptorix and Furies >Another UW Warband >Fomoroid Crusher >Mindstealer Sphiranx >Ogroid Myrmidon >Chaos Lord on Kharkadrak >New Knights >New Warriors >Belakhor In 3rd edition >Centurion Marshall >Legionnaires >Another UW warband >Exalted hero of Chaos >Chaos Lord on Daemonic mount >Daemon Prince >Chosen >Theridons >Abraxia >Darkoath Marauders >Darkoath cavalry >Brand's warband In 4th edition: >Chaos Sorcerer Not counting like half a dozen commemorative models and anything I forgot >Will be a 5th edition starter Sincerely fuck yourself
>>98297793Holy Maw the old ones look so shit in comparison. I thought they looked largely fine before but side by side the difference is huge. The new ones probably could have done with another half head of height imo.
>>98298721LRL are the biggest loser of SoA. Actually nothing good in there.
>>98298860people somewhat deservedly give gravelords shit for getting all the commemorative models but StD are bloated as fuck man
>>98298864Their new proportions are a massive improvement, but some of the desigs are so-so. Do we have any info on whether the hunters have alternate builds? I'll also have to find a solution for the nu-mournfang heads.
>>98297807They do it to avoid child syndrome. Old ogor has less than 1:4 head to height ratio, that's 4 year old proportions. Yes, they are not human but our brain is hardwired to think of big head as child, which works even for puppies/kittens and is why we find them cute. Not a good look/association for bloodthirsty cannibals.
>>98298888Not like comemos metter to blost, when they don't get scrolls
>>98298864They're very blocky limited diversity and serious rank and flank syndrome. They would've been tight on squares but on spacious rounds it looks really weird to have them squeezed into an invisible cube. Plague monks and Stabbas are similar but they're hordes on small bases so it isn't as obvious They always looked like an army of power walkers to me, really goofy and the proportions felt cartoony
>>98298788Worms belong to the maw, not the everwinter
Can anyone whip up a comparison with the mawpack gorgers? If they are close in scale I might get them in preparation for the big release.
>>98298931Everwinter already called dibs, no backsies
>>98298935Redd-it Mawderaator literally has one on his base
>>98298942I'm sorry but I don't know what those words mean
>>98298949The big center piece has a gorger slaving away
>>98298951Oh gotcha, thanks! Seems like the mawpack was made with the same designs in mind.
I'm looking at conversion fodder for a death Cogfort and it got me thinking about the Corpse Cart and Coven Throne/Mortis Engine. When GW inevitably refreshes them, what're they gonna look like? Certainly the kits won't be as robust and full of useful bits. But will they be essentially the same with just updated sculpts and aesthetics or something unrecognizable?
>>98298969Corpse cart might not get refreshed Coven throne might be more Egyptian/lahmia coded Those are my two cents
>>98298969Yeah I wouldn't be so sure that those even get refreshed. Corpse cart maybe, but the parade floats have always been pretty weird units.
>>98298969>When GW inevitably refreshes them, what're they gonna look like?the mortis engine will be left to rot, it will not be refreshed, the corpse cart might not even stay part of the soulblight if they develop zombies into a full faction
>>98298989>if they develop zombies into a full factionGod please no. The different horror aspects of undeath are already spread far enough with nighthaunt hogging all the ghosts and FEC hogging most of the monsters. Soulblight without zombies would just be vampires and skeletons. Which is a pretty shit faction identity.
>>98298977Would be the opposite if you ask me, Coven throne is kinda a weird thing, while the Corpse cart is a very common fantasy concept they could really play with
>>98298998>FEC hogging most of the monsters.literally just the terrorgheist
>>98298998Vampires are a cancer on any form of undead, all undead end up better the moment they cut ties from vampires.Vampires are the shit in the faction identity.
>>98298989At absolute most zombies can become a more fleshed-out (heh) subfaction inside of SBGL like skeletons are.They should not be their own faction>>98299027also the varghulf to be fair
>>98298864Per official lore, an adult Ogor is on average twice the height of ahumanbut their sheer girth makes them appear even larger. While new models are a great improvement, GW should have made them even larger.>>98298894Could you elaborate on designs part?
>>98299038>They should not be their own factionIt all depends on how many models they would plan on throwing at the concept, zombies are a perfect focus for a starter set, and the stitched together frankenstein monsters aesthetic opens the door to a lot of potential units.If GW decides to go heavy on the "technological" look, and with a whole new basic zombie unit parallel to the normal ones that would be left in sbgl, then it's possible they might make them a separate faction like they did with ghosts.
>>98299041>Could you elaborate on designs part?Not a fan of the hunters' heads and lack of pelts. Also not a fan of those new mounts, again specifically the heads. Splitting butchers into two separate units is also a strange decision imo, not super fond of the black hoods, even though they harken back to that one maneater with the ginormous scythe staff thing. Cauldron on wheels is also kinda bad, I would have preferred a reimagining of Skrag instead. All the basic stuff is great though, Ironguts are superb, bulls are good, tyrant seems nice with a bit of conversion work. Hunters also look solid, both mounted and on foot. They will need some conversion work if there are no alternate head options, but that's where the fun begins, right? Love the vulture feeding pose, love the kitties.
>>98298998All the death factions (except obr I guess) should just have easy access to allied death units. If they're committed to this RoR system itself, just give every basic death unit a RoR warscroll you can take in the other death armies. Or just make the legions of nagash AoR non legends (and more importantly, not force you to take nagash himself.Actually, lorewise, can the fec kings/regents raise zombies and skeletons? They're still vampires
>>98298969I doubt they will get refreshed with Vampire Counts being rumored to be one of the first couple Legacy factions going to TOW. Expect new kits to replace them, but in a different style/aesthetic to differentiate them from Fantasy.
>>98299101>Actually, lorewise, can the fec kings/regents raise zombies and skeletons? They're still vampiresNot really, 99% of them are too lost in the delusion to understand they'd be casting necromancy to raise skeletons.
>>98299101They can raise giant bats and batlike dragons.
>>98299151Are terrorgheists even undead in canon? The small bats aren't
>>98299151Feel like that'd be harder than raising skellies
>>98299136First I'm hearing of this rumor, but amazing if true. Ideally we get TWO modern kits for basic skeletons and Grave Guard eventually.
>>98299226Nta but I don't think that's an actual rumour with solid backing like the ones we've gotten used to lately. Just some logical inference.
>>98299162Yes, terrorgheists are undead
HELPPlease share CoS 3ed tome?!May Sigmar bless ya!
>>98299329Two threads ago somebody shared a big gofile with a bunch of shit in it, might be worth checking out if it's still up
>>98299309It certainly makes sense geographically. But time wise Sylvania is pretty well suppressed. If it weren't for GW's autism I'd probably expect Skaven to come back next because they're fucking everywhere. Or Dark Elves since they invade Ulthuan during this time. But hey, anything that brings in more new and high quality fantasy models.
>>98299329For some reason the TG groups i get pdfs from only have them in french, do you speak french by any chance?
>>98299452No CoS tome there.
>>98299457Wouldnt it make sense for Sylvanian vampires to take advantage of the Great War to grab some land?
>>98299460Nope. But thanks anyway.
>>98299460French pdfs have better quality. Good for art and model pics
>>98299463I think this is supposed to be when they're licking their wounds from getting btfo i the vampire warsWould be an opportunity to explore some other dynasties though, it's so lame that even in AoS we still have the deal with the von snorestein
>>98298818Killaboss looks so weird. Does he not interact with the stab-grot at all?? No rules mention it, he doesn't even have the companion attacks!
>>98299678He used to, but gw hates anything writing more than 1 rule now
>>98299468>French pdfs have better quality.C'est naturel.
>>98299710Not to mention the new one is just generically better while not offering anything fluffy. They just asked themselves which unit didn't see much play, gave'm the new seasonal mechanic and some generic +1 attacks. Other new stuff is fine, but this disappointed me.
>>98299710Likely an over correction on rules bloat, even though I feel like half the rules could be made into usrs already.
Im guessing if Sunday announces the ogor army set, we’ll see the rest of the range on Monday?
>>98299847>we’ll see the rest of the range on Monday?I expect them to streach it out longer.Next is probably the rhino since everyone already noticed it's on the book cover
>>98297905>>98298321>>98298558>>98298577Erm, I think you mean Ogors?
>>98299858Would be self defeating considering sometimes the books get leaked like day or two before the pre order day.
>>98299872
Why is SoA Gnashtooth just a worse SoG Gnashtooth ane yet costs more?
>>98299847I think we're certainly seeing more ogres monday. Dunno if it'll be both unrevealed minis though, they might stretch it out for one more week
>>98299872I will allow the use of ogor if they use the symmetry in it to write it in the style of the taotei patterns
>arch-regents are higher up in ghoul hierarchy than ghoul kingsHuh?
>>98300089I assume Regents answer directly to Ushoran, while Kings are his vassals
>>98300089Arch means like more important and stuff. Homm3 tought me that
>>98299896the same reason they took one of the SoG KO enhancements and made a worse SoA one. The rules writers have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
>>98300274Yeah didn't they take away the kharadron spell in a bottle -again.
>>98298860The worst part is that instead of being appropriately distributed to the other chaos factions, StD gets all the warcry warbands and a bunch of other units that clearly belong in other factions.
>>98300282Seeing the spider guys in khorne would be pretty confusing for the uninitiated though.
>>98298787>Bro, look at this heckin twitter groid meme they put in, isn't that so zany?fuck off
>"Darkoath look ba-ACK"
>>98298721>GSG got a whole lot of nothing besides trogs which were already good>Sons got a worse version of the gate breaker>The new KO warscrolls still don't make the units worth taking and one enhancement is just a worse version of the SoG enhancementTzeentch is the only one I skimmed through and actually thought it looked good. Can't wait for the new GHB/edition so we can move past this fury level rage dice bullshit and get some better scrolls.
>>98300310You’re better off talking about the underworld warbands instead of that one considering those are still actually being sold That being I do like her shoulder pad and weapon
>>98300312I like this KB version better than SoG, it just have a weird downgrade.
>>98300310Always thought this face is better than what gw usually manages for women. Proportions feel a bit weird though, like her legs are ever so slightly too short for ber body.
>>98300286Spider guys i can understand, but the Unmade not being Slaanesh for example, is just plainly retarded>>98300359Its probably the high boots
>>98300310She's not darkoath thoughbeit. She's just a regular old chaos warrior.>>98300365Poor slaanesh never got their chaos warband did they.Anyway, if we had to recycle some of the original realm-themed warbands I guess we could give cypher lords to tzeentch, iron golems to khorne, and unmade to slaanesh. None of the others really work for nurgle, even with the generous squinting we're already doing.
>>98300359Really do wish GW would paint eyebrows, I think only old world and middle-earth are only one they do that for.
>>98300389Rotmire creed was made specifically for them, not an OG warcry, but theres no need to squeez something into them
>>98300396Well yeah of course, like the karanak one and the jade obelisk were for khorne and tzeentch, but as a thought exercise for the original warbands.
>>98297403Bird people
>>98300513Bird up!
>>98300513Lovely models. I have the spearhead built but I’ve been procrastinating on how I want to paint them.
>>98300513never understood the hate for Tzaangors, these are some sweet ass models
>>98300659They are just overused as box filler.
>>98300659It's a 40k thing.
>>98300680AoS too by the virtue of Tzeentch not having a proper WoC/Chosen unit
>>98300286Khorne already got a warband but Iron Golems fit better. Poisons for Khorne is antithetical meanwhile their original named characters included The Forge Lord or something. Khorne was all cannibalism, hunting, and tools of war
>>98300089>Principle Ruler is above clan leader wow what a blunder
>>98300513
Am I getting this right or is gw doing away with heroic scale models?If so, how long have they been doing this for?
>>98300897Was happening for a while, ever since 40k 8th edition
>>98300659Why the hate for Tzaangors?1.- They're furries2.- They're box filler3.- They're FURRIES4.- Models ported from 40k (zero originality)5.- They're furries, dammit.
>>98300910>Models ported from 40k (zero originality)Its the 40k box that needs an upgrade sprue with chainswords and utopistols, not the other way around
>>98298283>>98298300>>98298327>>98298351>go read the latest article on Warhammer Community about the designing of the new Chaos Warriors/Knights/Lords for The Old World>the designers keep using "their" as a singular pronoun for clearly male miniswhy are they doing this ?
>>98298719there is rumors that S2D is getting new stuff as the 5e started factionAssuming that that Chaos box TOW got is all they're getting then we kind of got a bit of the specifics of what to expect>Chaos Warriors with hand weapon+shield loadout (yeah, all battle axes) >Chaos Knights — they could also use lance+shield combos >Chaos Aspiring Champion — a Battle Standard with a Daemonic Mount would definitely suit the battle axes they're swinging >Chaos Dragon, Manticore, Chimera, Chaos Gargant, Chaos Warshrine — they're great too
>>98301164The first one with the battle axes sounds like Khorne. I hope their shields are more like the aspiring death bringer and less like blood bowl shenanigans
>>98301164>>Chaos Warriors with hand weapon+shield loadout (yeah, all battle axes)>>Chaos Knights — they could also use lance+shield combos>>Chaos Aspiring Champion — a Battle Standard with a Daemonic Mount would definitely suit the battle axes they're swinging>>Chaos Dragonthis was all the tow stuff, so the rest would be too
>>98300513great attention to detail. I have a bunch of birds I need to paint but I can't get over my decision paralysis over what paint scheme to use for them. Maybe I just need to use the default.
>>98301164There ARE rumors of Beastmen coming back in some form, i wonder if its connected
>>98301198There’s also rumors about beastmen being souped into warriors of chaos. Personally I don’t care either way, I think Aos needs higher priorities than another chaos faction. I’d sooner buy into kurnothi before beastmen.
>>98301164Nigga most of that literally already was revealed for TOW. You think they’re getting a daemonic mount BSB and us too? Too specific. It’s TOW stuff
>>98301217The Beastmen chaos soup rumor is confirmed for TOW in that the AJ that was revealed has an army list that mixes Beastmen and WoC like in Storm of chaos. They aren’t being perma souped. Also you know your pics head game is insane.
>>98301217Why would you post this disgusting smile?
>>98301316Its what I imagine most people who like chaos are married to.
>>98298597The graph doesn't match. Slide the women across one to the right and add a new one to the left
>>98301164Clearly Boole got his wires crossed. His rumors are almost word-for-word the exact shit that just got revealed for TOW>New Spikier Chaos Warriors that are curiously missing weapon options>Chaos Knights, ditto>Aspiring Champion and Battle Standard>Chaos DragonEven if AoS ends up getting a completely unwanted STD update for 5th Edition, no shot it's exactly what TOW got.
>>98300680Yeah, we share chaos gods and some minor daemons and filler units.
Is collection anon still around? Looking for all the pdfs for ogors army books/battletomes.
>>98300918Yeah, it's so plainly obvious that they were made for AoS first (Partly because the design debuted in Silver tower) but at some point someone had the bright idea to give them guns and chainswords so they could put them in 40k so they slapped the upgrade sprue together and threw it in the box last minute.It probably had something to do with the fact that without them, Thousand Sons had like, four kits unique to them.
>>98298069I remember when those came out as a kid. Metal Maneaters and Gnoblar trappers...2004 btw
>>98301681Try these—they are the 2nd and 3rd editions. As for the 1st edition Beastclaw Raiders PDF, you’d have to search really hard or pray that someone has it and decides to upload a link.https://files.catbox.moe/blb26l.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/bgnhlk.pdf
When are the Ogre unit boxes coming, lads?
What are the best lumineth kits for bare elf heads? I want more heads for my 40k eldar and I know the lumineth range has some, but all the art on the GW website shows the helmeted heads.
>>98301925Short answer? We have no ideaLonger answer? We don't know, but signs are pointing to it being sooner rather than later. Namely the fact that they went straight from the army reveal to showing off more models from the army the following week. They don't normally do that unless they're starting the hype buildup for the new release.
>>98301930I think it’s mainly just the 5 man kits that have those options
>>98301887A quick correction: the Beastclaw Raiders Battletome PDF can be considered almost "lost media," so "praying that someone has it and decides to upload it" has become the only way to get hold of it.
>>98301955If I weren't a lazy ass. That could be me.And Bonesplitterz too.
>>98301930There's only 2 bare heads in the Bladelords kit, 1 in the Stoneguard, and 2 of the same in the Wardens.
>>98301955>>98301964These?https://gofile.io/d/r85JQH
>>98301977Wow sabers look exactly like their art, its only been 10 fucking years.
Y'know it's crazy how few people actually read AoS novels. So many people saying how female skaven are all breeders when a random clanrat in the Skaventide novel is referred to with female pronouns
>>98302078>in the Skaventide novel is referred to with female pronounsYou got a screen cap for that?
>>98302078Could be an intersex thing. That happens with rats sometimes. There's one on this YouTube channel called Friendly Rat Forecast.
>>98298818It's basically an update that further nerfs a sub 40% win rate army.Gobsprakk is the only improvement. Even the teleport change is a slight nerf as the timing is now bad. For example you can't get a hero out of tower and teleport in the same turn anymore for a late game cap or battle tactic. Worsening the dirty trick economy isn't good, and would only have synergy with the soggy skumdrek that was just lost.
>>98298878Seems like SoA is the loser of 4th. Most of them are pretty bad. And the battle tactic variety is going to wear thin pretty fast.
>>98302131Do you think 5e should do the new cards thing 40k is doing where depending on your dispo you get different missions?
>>98302119We had almost no rules, we have bad rules, we will have good rules. Trust the plan
does anyone still have that gif of a dude in a iron golem cosplay vacuuming
>>98302206The most lynchian Chaos has ever been
>>98302214I miss Warcryimagine an Aqshy edition and you're fighting through burning buildings and skaven infested quarriesBut no instead we get stupid underworlds that's already dead in the water except occasional releases that get -1 fanfare like unironically nobody's hyped for Jimmy's Crew or The Bloody Bloodbleeders or the Blowjob Bros
https://x.com/udon_danbo/status/2073226795948863731
>>98302265Impressive
>>98302265
>>98302224UW isn't dead, no legitimate rumourfag has said that
>>98302309did it really need to do that with the flamethrower?
>>98302010wrong. New Frost Sabres have a different design whereas the UW one fully realised the original art
>>98301432It's not so much that boole got his wires crossed, it's just anons interpreting stuff very weirdly. He pretty clearly stated these were for tow. At least the warriors etc, there's a little bit og ambiguity when it comes to the monsters but I wouldn't count on it.
>>98302373It's Nurgle after all
>>98302309How horrifying
>>98302078I don't recall that, all the main character Skaven are male but BL isn't canon and quality control is bad. We know originally GW just told writers to use the fan wiki, it's beloved they still do hence Soulbound references being so common. Humans cannot have children with Aelves. Human and Aelf children are common enough but a bit taboo actually! Mannfred is a different character. Kragnos speaks. Ogor offspring with humans. Order Ironjawz. Spiderfang and Ogors in Free Cities living normally. Demigod prototype Stormcast from the age of myth existing and being alive still. Yndrasta is a different character. There's a widespread cult dedicated to killing gods and they already killed Teclis.Josh Reynolds said he left GW because they didn't care about his work. Retcons, cancellation, handing the sequels to other writers, entirely his creation because he had nothing to work with, etc
>>98302396The idoneth book also comes to mind
>>9830239640kfags are always crying about black library being sidelined or overruled
>>98302265>>98302309the japanese warhammer player world is a curiousity to me
>>9830241340KEKS deserve this misery
>>98302154You can't imagine how fast that goes stale. If you only have a couple gaming buddies, you end up on the exact same primary mission every game in 40k. Literally have to change armies to get a new mission.
>>98302265>>98302309Kino
>>98302396>Ogor offspring with humans.do they realize the implications ?
>>98302467What? The small but lucrative SSSSSSSSSSBBW industry?
>>98302486>SSSSSSSSSSBBWStrong Black Woman ?
>>98302467The faction is called Gutbusters
>>98302486the same implications as when there are half-orcs in your setting
>>98302508The implications being that bulging muscles and Mexican food have a broad appeal?
>>98302533Legitimate brainrot
>>98302486>>98302533I think he's talking about whether the begetting of half-ogor offspring was consenting or not
>>98302467>>98302508>>98302546just say rape, you spineless wimps
Half-ogor fetus would kill its human mother before being born, so the only option is Human Male
>>98302553Right, I think mechanically the inverse is also not really possible.The only option therefore is that the Mortal Realms have some very dedicated chubby chasers.
>>98302546This isn't Arcanum.
>>98302560Which leads us back to >>98302486
>>98302486And SBBW is what?
>>98302576SS
>>98302576Super (x whatever...) Big Beautiful WomanBBW being the porn term for fat bitches.
>likes pointless violence>likes shooting stuff>owns slaves>rides things instead of walking if able>lives in a bayouOn this 4th of July let's not forget, that Kruleboyz are true sons of the South
>>98302602>no gunslmao
>>98302602That's why they have new world vulchers too >>98302610I think crossbows are more prominent for hunting. Guns is more of an upperclass bird shooting English thing?
>>98302610Only because Grinnin Blades are the default. Yellers own a Cogfort in canon and they're the shooting subfaction
>>98302602Shoulda been fimir
>>98302602Good Old Git
>>98302602>4th of julywait a minute, isn't today AoS' 11 year anniversary then?
>>98302265>>98302309Another video has hit the timelinehttps://x.com/adliae2024/status/2073342903594954920
>>98302727>https://x.com/adliae2024/status/2073342903594954920that is so so cool, but also a giant missed chance
so are scourge of ghyran warscrolls now retired or are those still legal for play?several of my armies are gonna really suck if i have to revert back to the old warscrolls
11 years ago, the first /aosg/ was created.This was the op image
You're all making this shit up. In previosu years American Independance day and AoS aniversary were not on the same day
>>98302754AoS released on the 15th of July but was teased prior
>>98302754https://youtu.be/6AQseMwiSYY?is=U2eJf7Wo0U925S6J
>>98302754the warscroll compendiums dropped on July 4th
>>98302761GW is weird with timing. i remember they showed off the new votann squats returning on april fools day too and everyone was really unsure if it was real or a joke because they looked so unusual. someone at GW loves trolling
are we expecting any reveals today? I though ogres were due on monday.
>>98302750RETVRN
>>98302770We expect them on monday
>>98302770The army set will be released for up to a month before the rest
>>98302508>>98302546>>98302549>>98302565Isn't it a canon fact that beastmen carry away women during their raids ?
>>98302806yes it is
>>98302789Sorry for probably stupid question but will the battletome be avaliable to order seperate of army set before everything releases?
>>98302770Ogors will in the sunday preview
>>98302811No, but people will sell it on eBay. The regular battletome comes out alongside the new models' full release
>>98302806>>98302809source ?
>>98302840
>>98302090>>98302113>>98302396
>>98302754iirc the rules came out july 4th but the boxset only a week later july 11th (so preorder the 4th)Looking back it's kind of impressive how tight-lipped GW were about the whole thing. I think only in june they released the whole "age of sigmar is coming" flyer and people were still confused about what exactly it would be. Anons here were discussing whether "age of sigmar" was the actual name of new game, or just a promotional tagline for whfb 9th edition as late as june 14th. Which is eerily similar to some of the TLW debates
>>98302859When The Last World is announced I think the few people still refusing to believe it is coming are going to rope from despair.
>>98302890Eh I mean I fully believe it's coming and everyone who's been following the rumours should too.The actual debate is how extensive the changes will be. I don't think it's going to be a new game or anything like some believe, it'll just be AoS 5th edition.
>>98302901I just feel like all these changes to appease TOW fans are useless because TOW fans will NEVER care about anything new that isn't their oldhammer world
>>98302916It’s likely not for tow fans either, it’s probably just for the writers to make sense of it.
>>98302924Writers have already made sense of it years ago
>>98302916it's not really about tow fans, more about 40k and total war typesvalrak sort of dudes
>>98302931Yeah but can you expect the new people they hire to rotate into Aos to make sense of it? Gw isn’t a consistent company even when they were a small group of people that were working on the settings. It gets worse when you include new people to the mix and you have people try and read old code.
>>98302901>it'll just be AoS 5th edition.Gameplay wise probably. But not setting wise, the whole point of the reboot is to get away from the Mortal Realms as a setting and Age of Sigmar as a name. I also agree that >>98302933 are the target audience. And most of them share sympathies or views with the Warhammer Fantasy crowd. AoS to them will forever be tarnished as a brand and something on principle they won't touch. So GW is wisely getting rid of the AoS in AoS, rebranding and rebooting the setting to be quite different, while probably keeping the core gamplay.They are banking on most current AoS players to continue playing (which let's be honest they will even if they hard reboot the setting) but also gaining a massive new audience once they are free of the " stigma " of the Mortal Realms as a setting/AoS as a brand
>>98303019> but also gaining a massive new audience once they are free of the " stigma " of the Mortal Realms as a setting/AoS as a brandi think they're really overestimating the actual size and willingness to spend of that extremely vocal minority if thats the case
>>98303032Probably, I am not saying they are right (or wrong idk either way tbqh), just stating what I think the mentality of GW management is in pushing the reboot.
>>98302890nah, the people in denial of it are the same mindless consumers that were in denial of the age of sigmar then, they buy everything gw puts out regardless of what happens and they have their blinders on so they're completely unable to see shit coming, are aggressively in opposition of anything anyone other than gw may say, and when it's time to be fed the same info straight from gw they accept and love it unquestionably in an utter disconnect to their previous stances.
>>98303070Nice projection!
>>98303019I really don't think they're moving on from the AoS brand, that's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.What I think is happening here is they want a second chance at making a first impression. They fucked up hard in 2015 and that's what a lot of non-aos players still think about, particularly when it comes to maps. Remember when the TLW rumours first dropped and there was a flood of secondaries here going on about "multidimensional infinite planes", that sort of stuff. I think they realize that no amount of normal maps are going to reach these people, so they need to make enough noise and go "HEY HEY YOU GUYS ITS DIFFERENT NOW ITS A SINGLE WORLD"
>>98302727Absolute kino
>>98303097But I don't do that, anon.
>>98303116Hard to have an Age of Sigmar when Sigmar kepts his skull imploded by Archaon
When you do the exact same pasta every day for a week it kinda loses its impact
>>98303019>once they are free of the " stigma " of the Mortal Realms yeah, no, that's not happening as long as the spread of info on the setting is in the hands of people hardwired to hate it, which is basically the entire youtuber sphere involved with 40k.the only way for the setting to break free from them is to have a different word of mouth, from a videogame or video series or by shamefully paying the influencers currently guiding the parrots
>>98303137I mean 40k isn't called 41k now so I think we're good
>>98303137fortunately we already know that rumors of sigmar's death are just one side of the story: what chaosfags believe happened.While what sigmarites believe happened is that sigmar defeated archaon and is currently on a quest of some kind.In support of either positions there are the facts that archaon is very much still around, while sigmar has not been seen for a long while, and the facts that archaon is very wary of showing himself around sigmarite heavenly events which are still happening.
While I dont think Sigmar is dying at all, >>98303156does make a good point.
>>9830315640k was never toxic as a brand like AoS is to many people outside of AoS. I see a lot of people here that simply refuse to look at it from an outsider 40k players/valrak type guys perspective. You like AoS, you are not the target audience for the Last World reboot. You need to look at it from the perspective of a never AoS grog. They will absolutely get rid of the AoS branding, that's the whole point of the reboot. It's a toxic brand in the eyes of many unfortunately. The game will be mostly the same I imagine, but say goodbye to the setting as a whole.
>>98303175Wow are you an insider?
>>98303164>>98303156Again, 40k as a brand was not the cause for the change. It was gameplay related. 7th to 8th kept the setting intact. Nothing major changed at all. The Last World is the opposite, the problem is the setting in the eyes of GW, not the game.
>>98303175If I was an actual never AoS grog I don't think I would give a shit what they'd call it honestly.
>>98303137>Hard to have an Age of Sigmar when Sigmar kepts his skull imploded by ArchaonBeing lectured on leaks by someone like you that very obviously hasn't been keeping up on leaks is always hilarious. It's all overblown. Real AoS players know that "Sigmar combines the realms into a single world" has been part of his plans since 1st edition, GW kept that particular plot hook baited literally from the start of AoS. Sigmar will still be alive and able to work miracles, but in hiding, which is a vast change from his previous status quo of being alive and able to work miracles but hiding in the Realm of Heaven. The Realms will become continents. The new fluff for Stormcast/CoW in particular will likely become unbearably stupid in order to align them better than 40K, but by all indications not much else will change.
>>98303193>Nothing major changed at allYou can not actually be serious
>>98303202That's the whole point. A never AoS grog will never touch AoS. But if it's The Last World, and there's no AoS branding anywhere to be seen, well it's not AoS now is it? Even if it plays very similarly. That's how GW thinks.
>>98303207for 40k that's a major event, for aos that's a tuesday
>>98303208The Branding will be Age of Sigmar-The Last World. You're going to cope about this until it's confirmed, but that's not my problem.
>>98303218>accusing me of copeI pity you
>>98303218It’s already been confirmed that the last world isn’t even a trademarked name.
>>98303218Can't wait for all those titles on each product being like:>WH:AoS:TLW:SoU
Can you guys stop replying to the AI-jeet?
>>98303208I feel an actual neverAoSgrog would be sapient enough to recognize that AoS under a different name is still AoS.Besides, these types are more consoomer than you'd think. Somebody post the pic of the dark elf burner with his stormcast on squares.
>>98303218>Warhammer >fantasy battles>the age of sigmar>the last world>roleplay>soulbound >champions of chaos>carngard adventures
>>98303218I feel like "the last world" will be something like the "era of the beast" or "sigmar lied" or whatever, essentially 5th's tagline. Maybe the name of the 5th edition starter set even, though that seems a bit unlikely.
>>98303259>the name of the 5th edition starter set
>>98302935Yes? They do it all the time?
>>98303241>strawberry flavour
do people here have experience painting with glue
>>98303375...what?
>>98303375It will probably ruin your brush after 1 use
>>98303281I really wish we got some more news on this bullshit
>>98303375yeah, it's pretty useful for keeping things intact when it comes to basing. I needed some blood effects for my khorne berserkers and cut my finger open for the blood - mix with elmers and go to down.
>>98303387So you’re saying it wouldn’t be good to use past one session? Was hoping to do a whole army with it.
>>98303494You'd have to wash it often, cause it you let it dry you're left with a stick
>>98303375>>98303387Tamiya extra thin has a brush tip for application, holds up well
>>98300910FDS in 2026 is crazy
>>98300659The hate mostly comes from the 40k side of things because they're very obviously just an AoS unit that they wanted to double dip on, plus they come in like every discount box. In AoS they're cool. I like the marked gors a lot, wish we got more of them. I will continue to shill my wish for slaaneshi centigors and khornate bullgors. Still have to find something for nurgle though.
>>98303553Kill yourself animal person
>>98300659I think they're not enough bird nor beast for bird beastmen but that's just an unfortunate part of wave 1 tzeentch
The artwork doesn't convey it very well but they're actually singing a cappella blues while working.
>>98303662haha that's so funny man can I repost this to reddit?
>>98303662They seam more like people who say they like metal, but don't actually enjoy it
>>98303672Chorfs have hashut-induced racial tinnitus, so that checks out
>>98302078I refuse to after they tried poisoning the Gotrek and Felix story
>>98302621kino
I broke and pre ordered the ToW core set. Those chaos warriors were too tasty
>>98302621Grinnin blades are the official Kruleboyz, Big Yellers were the most popular (thanks to boltboyz) and yet most people want more units that don't really mesh with neither of them.Skullbugz are forgoten
>>98303594Does Brodd even have a motivation anymore? I thought his thing was wanting to exterminate beastmen and rebuild the temple of Behemat, but hasn't he just been mostly attacking Sigmarites for no real reason?
>>98303905>for no real reasonsigmar killed both ymnog AND behemat, anon
>>98303894Skullbugz are just beast oriented so hardly different. I would like to see KB grots spiderfang on insects tho
>>98303935Based siggy showing destructoids who's boss
>>98304037Hobgrots can stay but grots in KB are a mistake. One slaverace is enough
>>98304098Kb grots are used very sparingly, there's like 5 of them across the whole range.KB hobgrots also aren't a slave race, that's the chorf ones.
>>98304125Chorf Hobgrots aren't slaves either
>>98304138Excuse me, "indentured servants"
>>98304125IIRC grots in KB are slaves, sold by their own for toxins or some vials, while hobgrots are only hired goons from Robba Baronz so you got me there.Still, I think that every instance of grot models in the range should be replaced by Hobgrots and I wish I realised that before painting my killabow
>>98304194the official GW-vetted term is labourers™
>>98304432>>98304432>>98304432>>98304432New
>>98304434Page 8 faggot.
>>98302224Just the fact that Warcry was hollow out while Underworlds just got cheapened shows that people overall liked Underworlds better (people engaged with AoS probably liked Warcry better for it using similar rules)>>98302727Honestly cool af
>>98298597Those are all too brown. Will all be >35 soon.
