Previous: >>98304865Hero Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Now that the dust has settled, what's your favorite commander from Marvel Superheroes?
>>98311359>TQI'm leaning into getting an Ultron for my colorless artifacts deck, anyone know how good he is?
>>98311359TQ: I'm still trying them out
>TQVOLTRON-MONKEY AAAAAGGGHHHH
>>98311473
>>98311478should I play this instead of wilson
>>98311359>TQ'luv me monoG comboslop
complete drooling idiot herewhat is a good deck on rails that could help me get used to the format?a friend recommended me an upcoming preconstructed deck that is coming out in a few months, but in the meanwhile I wanna learn how to play. we've been playing together on tabletop sim and I can't really find a deck where I feel like it just clicks. I never played MTG seriously before but I have a lot of Yugioh experience
>>98311514light paws is the most on rails deck, every game plays out exactly the same, and it costs 10$
I am a furry and I like to reflect that in my choice of Commander, so I would vote for Beast as my favourite new Commander from the Marvel set.
>>98311495well, the monkey doesn't have Partner, so...
>Need to make a truly casual t1-2 deck>Decide that I want to base it around Act of Treason cards, since I've got a collection of 20 or so of them>Zidane looks like a perfect commander for that, and I even have a surge foil version of him>realize that Brion Stoutarm would be a much better commander>realize that Lorehold would be an even better commander>Zidane gets thrown into the 99Making a single treasure token is just not enough value.
Comic books are so fucking gay.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98311956yes... and?
>TQI really like this guy, I'm taking a few things out of my Zhulodok deck to put in him like the lands and Darksteel Citadel
>>98311359More fun than I expected. Solid b2.5, which is the most fun zone.
I pulled two GW she-hulk, but i'm cracking open my Isshin and my Super Shredder to build this silly jackass.
>>98312517I'm guessing Sulfuric Vortex is an auto include in this deck
>>98312691this could just easily say>champion a legendary creature instead of that awful drawback>pyscho gundam has all abilities of the championed card>toxic 13 instead of infect>have it cost 7cmc>when psycho gundam is put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile all graveyardsso it's not a steaming pile
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>>98312797I like lord of the pit, so no, and it isn’t how psycho gundam works either
>>98312906>women secret lair>no avacyn>no aurelia>no chandra>no sheoldredClearly designed be someone who doesn't actually like Magic
>>98312943You get a troon from Tarkir though and that's hella epic
>>98312906>No fag secret lairAmazing how this game has gotten so bad its gone from pandering to fags to pandering to women.
>>98312906>Triumph of Ferocity
>>98313045tranny right there on coat of arms
Teysa looks like a hooker
Teysa looks like a mommy
>>98313186....that accepts money in exchange for sex
>>98312698Great minds think alike
>>98311221She may be the queen, but Azusa is the princess.>>98311233Based. Let their fruity brother be free.
>>98312906That Lathril looks nice. I never got around to getting a copy of her.
From the Ashes, fair in bracket 3 or not?
Question about pic related rules:If I cast an artifact on my turn, and then another player steals it, and later I cast Yuffie, Materia Hunter and use her ability to steal back the artifact that was originally mine, what happens if Yuffie is destroyed? Who gets the artifact back, me, since I originally cast it, or the player who stole it from me?Yuffie's ability lets me gain control of an artifact until she leaves the battlefield. When she dies, the artifact returns, but whose battlefield does it return to? Mine, or the other player's?
>>98313782from the ashes and wave of vitriol replaces the lands destroyed so they are not mld as far as gavin is concerned>not your fault if your opponents don't have basics
>>98312906I guess I need a bling Coat of Arms after selling the last SL one to my friend
>>98313186>nipple visiblehnnnngh
>>98311478Shit son that just replaced my toski. Holy crow that’s dope. Also great for an indo Rex deck
>>98311914have you tried doing it in Pauper EDH?
>>98311914Just pulled this in a pack from the Sam’s Club box. Is it any good?
Five color slop in every set!
>>98314209hell yea brother! I love not thinking restrictions and also drawing card when the card does the thing by itself
I LOVE +1/+1 COUNTERSI LOVE DRAWING CARDSI LOVE TRIBAL DECKSI LOVE GETTING THE SAME HANDFUL OF MECHANICS AND IDEAS EVERY SET
>>98313827Depends on what stole the artifact from you. If the effect is continuous without an end, it goes back to the player who took control of it. If it was temporary, then it depends on whether that effect has ended yet. Basically, the question you ask is, if Yuffie hadn't been on the table, who would have had control over the artifact that turn? That's who it goes back to since it's under their control.
Ive been reading guides on how to make decks. They recommend 40 lands and 15 pieces of removal. Is that high? It seems like an insane amount of removal
>>98312906Good heavens the flavor text on that sol ring is fucking awful.
>>9831449440 lands is too high for most decks and 15 removal pieces is way too high for most decks
>>98314330It's time to admit magic's existing design space has been strip mined bone dry. Players like this kept asking for more and more new and fresh play space and with 7 sets a year + edh releases + mechanically unique SLD's they got it. Well, ride's over retard they can't invent new archetypes out of thin air if there's no unexplored design space left to make them. Now it's just a game of designing and selling powercrept sets by the numbers.
So what exactly is the wincon for this deck? I see her shit posted about all the time. Make her big voltron and then unblockable?
>>98314561aluren + shrieking drake
>>98314561Force your opponents to draw cards, prevent them from playing them, and shooting them every time you force them to draw.
>>98314561It's a group hug commander of the deck has a wincon you're doing it wrong
https://moxfield.com/decks/ZvmGAgF9CUuRm9LP3QQkqAthoughts on this vibe
>>98311359>TQ: Now that the dust has settled, what's your favorite commander from Marvel Superheroes?The only card I bought from this set is Hex Magic.
>>98314561Fake grouphug players shouldn't play grouphug Commandos.
>>98313782Even moxfield says it isn't MLD so I say it's fair game for all brackets
>>98314351I don't get it
Is there a cheap way to break parity for winter orb in a mono black deck? I'm looking for like a voltaic key cheap artifact that lets me tap my own winter orb before my untap step
>>98314538There are fresh design spaces and new ideas. If you put Richard Garfield in charge of a set, he'd come up with a ton of new interesting ideas and mechanics. The problem is the no-talent DEI losers they have working in RnD now. Those people do not have talent or original ideas, which is why they give us endless +1/+1 counter enshittification variations every set.
>>98314925uh oh you just did a chuddie
>>98314561Make a creature (or creatures) big with flying.
I decided I'm mixing 3 of my decks together into one to make Dr.Eggman I know one of you niggas built him so show me your decklist so I have a better idea of what to put in him
>>98314912Blinkmoth well, pacification array, relic barrier, clock of omens
>>98314690its just every single gate deck that gets overshadowed by simic landslop. the vibe is boring and annoying.
>>98314561Politics.You position yourself as the person everyone least wants to kill. Every card an opponent draws should essentially be a card that moves your own plans forward, and you don't even have to waste your own mana to cast it.In the end, after everyone's done wasting their resources fighting each other and they finally turn their attention on you, you pull something dumb like a Storm Herd on them.
>>98313045You do know we haven't done le fag lair in like half a decade right? You were still in middle school
>>98312906>Only card worth buying for is finaleThey used to put better shit in these charity lairs because they realized no one would buy it otherwise. They put several dollar to 2 dollar cards in there.
>>98315006https://moxfield.com/decks/0DmfAWSTn3-B4KooOHpaXA I began removing constructs in favor of robots for theme reasons now that we have a significant amount of robots. You could probably put in some better constructs over robots if you really wanted to.I also began removing some of the discard package as it was dead weight most of the time.
>>98315079Thanks anon, I was actually thinking of going slightly heavy into the discard route but you made me think differently
>>98312906can you use sezzle to get secret lair drops?
>>98315096It can kind of work but I did it to encourage people to give me the creatures. But my pod often just gives me them anyway a lot of the time so the discard isn't as necessary and I wanted to swap to more beatdown.In my experience people prefer to give you creatures/vehicles. One anon here put it pretty well. If you discard a card then that is your problem. If the Eggman player puts in some fatty for free, that's EVERYONES problem.
>>98315142The fuck is sezzle? Sizzler typoed?
>friends into Magic for many years, finally decide to build my own deck after borrowing decks for the last year>build two kinda budget decks of ~$100 each cuz I couldn't decide between which to focus on>huge drama shitstorm happens, friends no longer hang out all together>Magic night doesn't happen anymoresigh.
>>98315145I'll try to show what I've built a little later down the line and hopefully get a few pointers there. thanks again anon I think my pod is the same way
>>98315152We told you not to get involved with her, we told you not to give her a ride.
>>98315006it's VERY important that you put picrel onto the battlefield, and then... https://youtu.be/CvERHiTfx9w
>>98312906>no Sigarda card when she basically saved the fucking realm from emrakul and her transformed sisters
>>98315160Vague post king
>>98315171I didn't even think of this, it's genius
>>98315171I should toss this in 2nd doctor.Eggman seems like this would not work unless your games regularly go to like turn 12 or you just want the 2/1's. Or you build to be able to draw two cards on your opponents turn.
>>98314494I like 38 myself, and 15 interaction pieces might be OK if that's like board wipes, counter spells, single target removal and defensive cards
why does land tax = draw 4 lands every turn
>>98315160Dawg I wouldn't touch her with a 10 mile pole. Also yes though she was the reason everything went to shit. Lied about one of the other friends, her pushover husband believed everything and isn't listening to the rest of us. A 20 year friendship is probably ending because he'd rather be manipulated and gaslit by his wife instead of listening to his friends
>>9831449440 Land (or other mana sources) sounds safe. The more you rely on just making sure your commander is out, the more land you need.I run 34 land and 2 rocks, but it does occasionally feel like I should probably cut two cards and throw in two more lands to get better consistency.I do run 15 forms of removal, including some repeatable removal, and that doesn't actually feel like that much and I sometimes wish I could squeeze in some more as well.
>>9831449440 is stupid. Even precons don't go that high
>>98315256I told you, but at least you didn't gang up on me like that janny and the other faggot retards when I did. Hope you start listening to anons in here from now on, retardo. Download xmage and play that until shit calms down.
>>98315189I'm gonna keep it a hundred percent, I only posted that because it fits the lyrics to the song lol.it's a shame there aren't more robots matter cards because the name for this one fits Eggman perfectly and you could do some kind of mill/reanimate fat robots thing and slot it in nicely. if they make Risen Reef for robots or something...
>>98315290>I told you, but at least you didn't gang up on me like that janny and the other faggot retards when I didOkay now I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. This is the first time I've brought it up, haven't posted in like 2 weeks cuz of the spamming retard
>>98315281there's a consensus forming among certain nerds that 40 is potentially not stupid if you don't have a bunch of nonland mana sources and mdfc lands (but you should)
>>98315299Bro, ignore female trading card game players. What else do you need to know? We told you, you didn't listen, simple as.
>>98315281This Precon has 39 lands and 12 other mana sources, including a land fetch creature for good measure.https://moxfield.com/decks/BZNUleDaWE2EvZRhXZTK_w
>>98315317I just went and checked the past 10 preconsThey all had 37 or 38. None had more or less.
>>98315328How many rocks did they have though.
>>98315317this is where a typical smug /tg/ response would say "see? 39<40, I was right" lol
>>98315317see? 39<40, I was right
>>98315328Don't most precons have lower cost cards though? They wouldn't need 40 lands if so
>>9831531739 is not 40.
>>98315388
What is a good commander to emulate psychic powers? Just got done playing Second Sight on ps2 and I'm hyped.
>>98315403holy wife material
Mail day! I'm so excited to get ultron together, hex magic is cool too
>>98315309>female trading card game playersThey all have penises anyways. No exceptions; never trust a closeted homosexual to be honest about his sexuality.
>>98312906>Nature's fury will not be stopped??? is the lack of punctuation a joke or a misprint? Imagine a world where you can't tell the different. You've entered: the WOTC zone.
>>98315496Most people aren't English majors.
>>98312906Oh alright, they can rely on the resellers for this one too then LOL
princess yue is a hilarious deck but I'm too brainlet for it maybe
Do you guys know anywhere (preferably UK based) that does nice looking surge foil proxies?MPC doesn't have that as an option as far as I can tell.I bought a proxy foil Tifa but the foiling on it looks kinda naff.
They should make a commander format where the limit is 104 cards(I'm really struggling to make the last couple of cuts from this deck)
>>98314690>>98314817 you can do both by having a fake group hug deck, with a cringe back up plan of winning with Maze's end.https://moxfield.com/decks/VsAL8b3yikWqbJk_AFDmRwpix unrelated
Which Theros god is the most fun as commander?
>>98315608Drop a list. If you need suggestions on what you need to cut you can always ask for an impartial take.
>>98315586Yue is a fucking awesome upgrade for my Elminster deck. One of my favorite scry cards in the game, now
>>98311359>TQ: Now that the dust has settled, what's your favorite commander from Marvel Superheroes?Shan't be playing any of them, but will appreciate the opportunity to blast Thor et. all with Wrath of God.
>>98313973What are you on about?
Any secret techniques with this guy? I feel like I'm going to get hated off the table immediately.
>>98311359This Daredevil. I like the idea of doing a bunch of damage to myself and everyone else to put clock on the game and pinging and shooting myself and everyone for more and more as the game goes on. Putting a big red clock on everything. A race to the bottom, hopefully taking everyone else out before myself.
>>98315646I wonder if this is secret. It probably is, since I don't see it on his EDHREC page.
>>98315655Yeah, I have that guy and mark of fury already!
>>98315655Oops, nevermimd. 55% inclusion.Man, I always thought these flickering enchantments were underappreciated because I've never seen anyone use them, but apparently there's no cards left that haven't been thrown into a database and considered from every angle by a thousand different people.Even my super-secret tech of flickering ward is well known enough to get a recent commander reprint...
>>98315632LARP post
>>98315604Foil proxies have always looked pretty bad between the ones I've bought and those I've seen others get. The only way they really pass is in matte sleeves that obscure the details enough (and even then you can still tell if you know what to look for).
>>98315694>"Everybody has to play the same cuckslop I enjoy!"
>>98315694The guys who try to "fit in" by posting dead forced memes from other boards are so fucking weird.
>>98311359I'm excited for the Threaten Mana rock to get an IW printing some day.
>>98315697I might pick up some matte sleeves and just make do with what I've got then, thanks for the suggestion.
>>98315704>>98315708LARP and samefag
>>98315459Imo zur. Telepathy, zur's weirding.Theres also some warhammer broad but she doesnt seem very psychicy to me.
I started running more enchantment hate in all of my decks and a lot of my problems started going away. Turns out my play group plays a lot more of these than I originally thought and now I'm rolling them for it. Thanks for coming to my ted talk have a wonderful night.
>>98315685They're great for triggering enchantment ETB effects. I run the destruction ones in Mazzy and just cast them again from exile
>>98315630oh sure it scries too
>>98315760I'm surprised a lot more people don't do this, I got away with easy combos simply due to the fact almost no one runs enchantment hate
>>98315767That's what happens when you pubstomp instead of finding an appropriately skilled playgroup.
I need a good commander to run in emperor
>>98315771Nigga I run bracket 2 decks
>>98315760>>98315767I'm in a group that never runs any land destruction, so I've started investing in much more obnoxious lands.
>>98315779lands have taken over the local meta and no one wants to run LD
>>98315772Vivi?
>>98315632Can I have your autograph?
>>98315786I honestly think that's probably for the best. There's very few land that are outright gamebreaking, and there's even a few common EDH staples that can still get rid of lands even if that's not their primary purpose.
>>98315647I don't get how this works. You don't have access to lifegain really and you can't kill the table before yourself with him. It's like a shittier Aunty Blight
>>98315779Kor Haven has been the one auto-include for all my white decks forever.
>>98315760I try to do the same best I can. But it is limited when playing mono colors as some still only have two or three options.
>>98315779Maze of ith is far more annoying because they don't need mana for it. It can also stop voltron decks dead in their tracks if they have no land destruction.
>>98315803>playing a land that can't tap for mana because of voltron>does nothing if votrong has shroud or hexproofI still consider it the most overrated land. Like what are you complaining about Temple of the False God?
>>98315796You want cards that don't just hit you, but hit you as part of a cost of hitting everyone else.It's less "I hit myself, then DD hits you" and more "I hit everyone, but you specifically take double."
>>98315813Why are you saying things that weren't said?
>>98315778>easy combos>""""Bracket 2""""lollmao
>>98315821Bracket 2 allows combos, yes. Not even that guy
>>98315821easy in the sense they're easy to see coming
>>98315796You aren't too far off. I'm mostly using a half built Auntie Blyte to build it. I don't expect it to ever be able to completely kill a table with Daredevil all on his own. More so lean into everyone takes damage spells and have him double up on them with his effect. That and some of the other red ping everyone effects and other red stuff that adds extra damage.
>>98315840This design would be so gnarly with a better artist
>>98315803I like Kor because it adds mana while forcing my opponents to recalculate their combat math. Actually using the ability is just gravy.Also, the creature still stays tapped and takes damage, so it's still dangerous to send an attacker my way. I can also play around with other people's turns and combats a bit more decisively. Saving someone's face so they can attack through and kill their would-be killer in the next turn, helping a creature survive first strike damage to kill something annoying, there's a lot of ways to make friends with Kor.
>>98315149its like klarna or afterpayI cannot justify the shipping cost for Mood Swings or the woman's charity secret lair
I hate ponies but this card is dope. Do you think I could build rakdos gambling with this and people would let me play it?
>have two decks that are budget to build>cost for each of them is less than 30 bucks>best card shop near me doesn't have all the cards>rest of the card shops never have any loose stock>ordering on TCGplayer or any other site would be around 50 bucks with shippingAnd people wonder why I end up proxying even cheap cards
>>98315824It's better for everyone for the players with the "letter of the law" takes of the bracket system to stay in bracket 4 containment.Why chose the most boring-ass way to end a game otherwise?
>>98315858Rip anon
>>98315858You may get some issues from people unsure how do you plan on deciding which spell to cast. I'm guessing you're planning on pulling up scryfall and hitting random card in front of the table every time?
>>98315870That would be the plan, yeah.
>>98315858Do you go to gatherer and just click random card or something?I just tried that and the results were unexciting.
>>98315694lol you're so angry your pooperheroes drop like flies to wanton boys.
>>98315863It's better for everyone if "Bracket feels" players stuck in bracket 1 desu
>>98315884Right. >>98315771 You're a pubstomper who doesn't want to own it.
>>98315879I got a fucking banding cardI'm starting to think Anon's idea isn't very good
>>98315888I know it's not good but it would be funny
>>98315887just run Return to Dust anon
>>98315858I like him because he's about as close as I'll ever get to playing paper Momir.
>>98315894Yeah you couldn't handle the players in bracket 4 and 5 so you make up for the "loss deficiency" in your head by playing with players who don't care about winning as much.This would be such a non-issue if you stopped lying to yourself.
>>98315889Especially because it says nothing about excluding Un-cards.
>>98315902I have zero idea where this is coming from anon but I don't really play with my bracket 4 deck because I like my bracket 2-3 decks more than Axonil
>>98315771>Person plays wincon>I let it sit there>They untap with the wincon>They win>wtfPut the fries in the bag little bro you can find space for Generous Gift.
>>98315894Chat, is this real?
>>98315894whoa is this real????????????
>>98315880LARP
>>98315858I'll allow it if you make a proxy with an actual Magic character on it. Like Q.
>>98315858I was initially against it cuz I couldn't think of how you'd do it fair, but reading >>98315870 make me kinda stoked of the idea of playing against it. The only problem I'd have is how you'd keep track of permanents you cast. Infinitokens? Would be annoying with creatures with tons of text and having to keep looking them up over and over to see what the board state is
The conclusion I've come to playing this format even with friends is that sometimes game's are just pure luck. You either draw your removal/interaction, draw/ramp or you don't I build a deck around a commander or thing I like then get to watch someone draw their entire deck. Then I build a "good" deck that can instantly win the game and shit becomes boring
>>98315632>Shan't be playing any of them, but will appreciate the opportunity to blast Thor et. all with Wrath of God.lolThere are several "save all your heroes" instant speed cards in that tribe. I can think of at least 3.
>>98315963Seethe
>>98315647Heartless hidegetsu is a pretty funny time with this guy.
>>98315459Sen triplets for mind control.
>>98315608>>98315613Commander should just have the same maximum deck size rule as 60 card formats do (ie, "timely unassisted shuffle" ), so the few outlier cases where someone wants to run a couple of extra spells or even Battle of Wits decks should be allowed to. I mean it just generally makes decks worse to have extraneous cards, so who are we to FORCE people to optimize in a casual format? t. guy who definitely isn't assblasted that he can never run a legal Yorion companion deck
>>98316043True of course, but they're not going to have the outs every time. And frankly if a Marvel player sacs their Spider-Cuck to block Wrath I consider that a win too. The mental image of Peter Parcuck getting Dr. Manhattan'd by a planeswalker is pretty worthwhile in and of itself.
>>98313973Holy shit. I never noticed that. Lol. She really is a whore.
>>98316110Commander should have always been 60 cards.
Reality Fracture is going to suck and I just want to move onto The Hobbit already.
>>98316123The whole point of EDH was to make use of lots of cards people rarely saw in an inconsistent and exciting manner.Now, everyone is running 5 near-copies of the same cards while scrying/surveiling/drawing/looting/impulsing and running eight tutors and just relying on getting their commander out as fast as they can and keeping them out just long enough to win the game in the exact same way they've done a hundred times, making 100-card Singleton feel like less than 60 cards.Actually drop it to 60, and it would become more samey than standard.
>>98316153Good news for you then: the hobbit is first.
>making a deck>got a strong idea of what I want to do, just gonna collect cards to throw into it>90 cards, no lands yetFuck. I gotta cut 20 cards out of this stack.
>>98316168I always start with the manabase and commander first then curve it out depending on the cmc's.
>>98315760a lot of popular timmy combos revolve around do nothing on their own win-more enchantments so yes good job anon
>>98316113LARP
>>98316163Singleton is already 3-4x the unique cards you would see normally. 99 cards routinely presents shuffling issues.
>>98316202reminder that people defending "muh spirit of singletons" also slob this guy's dick who thought rhystic was a fair card
>>98316188>win-moreIsn't the point to try and win more?
>>98316214no, the point is just to win
>>98316163>Actually drop it to 60, and it would become more samey than standard.You don't even have to do that. Just look at competitive brawl in arena
>>98316214"win more" is a phrase used to describe cards and strategies that are pouring gasoline on to an already roaring fire. Take a Voltron strategy for instance; say you have a bunch of cards stapled to your commander and you're dealing 21 damage... but if you had a damage doubler you could be hitting for 42 damage; so why aren't you running Angrath's Marauders?Cards that 'double' your infinites, or make your creatures 1000/1000s instead of 500/500s, and so on are simple ways to describe 'win more' cards; though there are plenty of more subtle examples. They don't actually make you win games, you were already going to win with what you had. What they do, however, is dilute your cardpool and make it harder to draw cards that will actually help your situation; fight through interaction, draw more cards or have more mana and so on.
>>98316486Put differently: "Win More" cards are cards that are too expensive, niche or even just numerous in your deck to actually help you win games; they just happen to show up to the party too, often too late.Going back to the earlier example; would you rather have Angrath's Marauders to play the turn you swing, or a counterspell to prevent your opponent's Cyclonic Rift?
>>98316211I like the singleton junk spirit but don't like rhystic study (or sol ring. or plowshares for that matter) precisely because it's so autoinclude in so many liststhe deeper your cards are in the edhrec ranking, the more sovlfvl your deck. it really is just that simple
>>98316572I prefer playing the game over getting shit on just so I can be "soulful"
>>98316576alas times have changed and you're not going to find a playgroup that mashes binder trash very easily but all I'm saying is once upon a time you could "play the game" with junk because that's what most people were doing.I mean they didn't even start reprinting sol(less) ring until 2011but yknow. I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said 999,999 times before, I'm just posting on /tg/ at 4 in the morning
If this guy dies at the same time as another creature, can he return that creature to hand?
Opinion on the Ixalan vampire precon dude?Thinking of building him.
>>98316686yes
>>98316700he cute
>>98316686actually no
>>98316777>>98316728would you two kindly fight each other so that I know which one to believe?It's not in arena so I can't test it there...
>>98316168The last 30 cards to cut are always the worst to figure out
>>98316867>arena
star wars when?
>>98316885yes anon, I don't play it but I do hop in to test rules interactions every now and then since I have some wild cards lying around from having played a lot of FF draft. Do you know if Greenwarden of Murasa can pull back creatures that died at the same time as it if someone wraths the board?
>>98316894>I don't play itmuch*obviously I have played some Arena
>>98316895bruh...
okay there's a ruling for a very similar card (picrel) that implies that if it dies at the same time as other creatures, it can reanimate those creatures>If two Moldgraf Monstrosities die simultaneously, the first ability to resolve could return the other Moldgraf Monstrosity to the battlefield. If it does, the second Moldgraf Monstrosity's ability won't exile it but it will return two more creature cards to the battlefield.so yes. Greenwarden can refill your hand with your other creatures after a boardwipe. okay thanks for coming to my TED talk
I've gotten conflicting answers on what happens when Wasitora swings at a player for lethalDoes a combat damage trigger that cares about the defending player's board state still resolve after removing the player?It matters since if it did, swinging for lethal would remove all the player's creatures, which would mean Wasitora would actually produce a token for once since she hit a creatureless player.
>>98317036Actually weird how I can only find one result while googling this, and yet it conflicts with how I'd imagine it going down: https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgrules/comments/atn80d/wasitora_nekoru_queen_dealing_lethal_damage/You'd think if the player no longer existed, Wasitora's ability wouldn't be able to function...
>>98316168If you have no lands you need to cut closer to 40 cards from that deck. I do 36 with tons of mana rocks (including shit like Mox Diamond) or 37 in green with ramp and a couple rocks but most people suggest 38 MINIMUM with double faced cards not counting towards that total.
>>98317219>>98317036the player can't sacrifice a creature if they left the game, right?they lose as a statebased action then the ability goes on the stack. it checks to see if they can sacrifice a creature. they can't because as far as the game is concerned they don't even exist. since they can't, you make a token.
>>98315647I play him as a secret commander in my stick, fearless mentor deck. He's a great time.
>>98315501>You must be an english major to put a period at the end of a sentence.
>>98315604No one makes nice foil proxies.
>>98316686Yes. The ability triggers when it's put into the graveyard, so it's already in the graveyard when it triggers, and so too is the other creature. You choose a target when the ability goes on the stack. Indeed, if it didn't exile itself, it could taget itself.
>>98317036The origin of the ability is your creature, so it doesn't matter if the player is there or not. You did deal combat damage to that player regardless, and no, they cannot sac a creature. If the ability required a target (that the opponent you hit controlled), it would fizzle.
>>98316078Another card I've been holding onto for just the right commander to come out and this Daredevil seems like the right guy.
>>98315612Purphorus Bronze Blooded. Cheating in giant fuck you dragons/ artifacts and smacking the table with em will always be fun, especially when you find ways to keep them on the table, like Cauldron Of Souls or Sundial
This is what I have so far for the Eggman deck these are just cards I have on my person right now, is there anything I should take out? I have an idea of what I want to addhttps://archidekt.com/decks/24138588/enjoy_the_pizza_rolls_sonic
>smooths WotC-approved playmat out on the tableSalutations, friends! Are we ready for a wholesome game of commander?>places cellphone in the middle of the table with life tracker app activeAs you all know a pre-game discussion is necessary before we play. I was planning for a wholesome bracket 2 experience with my new Marvel precon. Can you guys show me your lists before we start? I want to be sure our expectations are equally matched.>lays out Infinitokens™ and gets out dry erase markersWhat do you guys think about infect? Is commander damage too salty for this pod? We should be light on counterspells, right?
Anybody play Ozai Phoenix King? He seems like as close as I can get to Goku as possible (rewards combat, charge with unspent mana, one fuckass huge X spirit bomb). I ask because I tried playing toph, and instead of hitting people with rocks, it played more like landfall+, which is fucking boring.
>>98316169>>98316882>>98317224>proceeding to cut cards while building out my mana curve>realize I need to add a few staples to round it out>Now its 80 cards without landsFuck it. I'm just going to shufffle them and use whatever the top 60 cards are.
currently heated debate in my local group.wrath of god vs avatars wrath in a vacuum? deck has token engines but they arent the main wincon.
>monk gyatso>shuko>eye of ugin>spicy eldrazi etb
>>98318585>What do you guys think about infect? Infect is fine, it is a game mechanic>Is commander damage too salty for this pod? Commander damage is fine, it is a game mechanic>We should be light on counterspells, right?Counterspells are fine, they are a game mechanic Life-gain player pillowfort spotted
>>98318718>in a vacuumWrath of God. If I want it gone, I want it gone, not back the turn after.
>>98318803>not back the turn after.Well, two turns.
>>98318775They're not ETBs, they're cast triggersAnyway, run the ensemble en-kor as well
>>98318657>staplesDon't. Just build it to do what the commander and deck is supposed to do first.
>have cool deck idea>a few weeks of putting a list together, tweaking, testing on MTGO>buy paper copies, a hassle in and of itself>after a few weeks, cards come in>play 1 game>immediately start thinking about my next deckWhy am I this way
rate the alter
>>98319324I don't get it
>>98319324Genuinely could not pay me to play that
>>98319208that's the only fun part left in this game
>>98319324Is that after his daily dose
>mechanized production rugs of smothering>roaming throne - construct
>>983193240/10, trim your nails
>>98318718Wrath 90% of the time desu. Avatars wrath can, and has, backfired especially if your opponents creatures have better etbs than your's.
>>98319324Looks like shit and it doesn’t even fit thematically for Rhystic Study.
>>98319579How does it not fit? Majin buu is taking everything he holds dear, after fighting goku and learning nothing by going back to his evil ways, he sacrifices himself
https://moxfield.com/decks/bg-cl-gIpEyhpooHNRPvlwhow do I make it good
>>98319592You Hispanic midwit that is such a massive stretch, you should’ve just used a picture of Gohan studying or something but because you gluck gluck Beigitacucks nuts and he is an illiterate ape you can’t find a picture of him doing anything academic that isn’t from DBS and you have to perform the mental gymnastics of the century so you can shoehorn a picture of him onto a gamechanger. Fuck dude Jeskas Will probably would’ve made the most sense if you really had to force that picture onto a game changer.
>>98319632How can a card make an anon shit and piss their pants like this, wtf
Is this thing even halfway decent? Found it in a collection of old packs from a buddy
>>98319632Based. I make custom alts aswell and despise these low effort excuses to use gamechangers all the damn time.
>>98317817To be unable to read it yeah
>>98319324I mean it looks cool but why fucking Rhystic? What the fuck is rhystic study about Vegeta's sacrifice? This should be some Chandra's ignition sort of shit.
reminder that a dragon ball UB will have>Vegeta's Techniquethat does absolutely nothing
>>98319324im being reminded often that even among the baby-laughing-at-jingling-keys crossover enjoyers, dragonball fans are the most tasteless and embarrassing.
2026... I am forgotten
>>98319737>>98319687>>98319632>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS SIMPLE CONCEPT MAKES ME BRAIN HURT NOOOOOOO
>>98319763turns out 7 mana do nothing is bad as expected
>mono colored deck>runs command tower
>>98319799>anon can't appreciate aesthetic choiceNot enough good stuff for ya?
>>98319799were they running field of the dead?
>>98319799
>>98312906They should make one wirh Dark Ritual, Delirium Skiens, and 3x Basking Rootwalla.
>ban most of the banlist>bring back the old tuck rule>bring back the old legendary rule>ban UB by defaultThere. I fixed the format.
>>98319774But number bigIf number big that must mean card good
>The Alamo1WRGbattle14FlashWhen this artifact enters during the declare attackers step, exile spells and abilities your opponents control. All attacking creatures are now attacking The Alamo.—>Remember the AlamoEnchantment As this transform, Exile all creatures from your graveyard that died during combat this turn. Creatures you control have all abilities of the creatures exiled with this enchantment and get +x/+x, where x is the combined power of all creature cards exiled with this enchantment.
>>98311914Is he throwing away a sword here? What a bad drawing
>>98315171>a little booklet with a giant MThat's supposed to be marvel?
>>98319799A gigachad who necessarily makes their deck worse because you need the handicap
Do you run any OG generals?
>>98319981Why do you keep posting this false image when Agent 13 is the first white legend?
>>98319981Gwendlyn will be the commander for my yet to be constructed coomer deck
>>98320068I thought they wanted to remove investigate as a keyword.
>>98320118I guess because it's a flavor win they kept it for the set.
>>98319913>UB will continue to power creep old cards and reprint staples>binders of reserve list cards will rot and depreciate in value>people that only care about the mechanics of the game will continue to enjoy UB sets as they come out>you will have nothing
>post cards that if more people knew about and played would be a game-changer
>>98320272chaining turns is ILLEGAL anon
>>98320283Call the police, I don't care.
>>98320118Mark said it depends how many cards in the set make clues.
>>98319981I have pic rel in possession. Among those I still have Hazezon, Karn, and Intet built. I do want to get all 10 primeval dragons built at some point and I already have the skeletons of their builds planned out. I also want to revisit Kraj someday.
I kinda wish I wasn't a FF newfag and had been playing during the Murders at Karlov Manor set because Clues and the premise seem really fun
>>98320479just play cluedo
>>98319913Oh sorry wasn't listening to you anon, anyway, my Voltron Tifa just hit you for 48 damage and since I cast Silence before I swung at you on your empty board, well...>>98320174Based opinion, anyway, it's your turn now
>>98320283did gavin define what "chaining" means? no? then if it's not infinite turns then it's fine, 95% of extra turn shenanigans are infinite anyway
How you guys deal with crybabies who throw a tantrum when you destroy them something or attack him and also complain about dealing indirect damage instead of attacking
>>98320486I do. I always play as Mr. Green when I'm up visiting my family
>>98320490I don't play with autists. But usually if I feel like I have been fucking on him too much alongside others when he's clearly not the threat that game I'll give him a 'fine nigga, here' help via a counterspell or a coupla card draws or he gets the gift when I cast 'gonna go take a shit' (Perch Protection)
>>98320490Ridicule them into the ground. You're at an LGS? They make a scene and go. At a friend's house? They throw a tantrum and probably leave. At your house? Fight them and make them earn a man card.
>>98320431>I do want to get all 10 primeval dragons built at some point and I already have the skeletons of their builds planned out.Worthy goal, anon. I've built 5 out of the 10 so far. Back in the day you played them because they gave you access to the colors, now you play them so you fly under the radar because nobody knows what your deck will do. There is definitely an old card=bad mentality among new players.
>>98320479I'm glad I'm a FF enjoyer, when I quit I'm making enough to buy 3 houses.
Post decks.
>>98320598
>>98320502>>98320520>Really anon? Indirect damage? So unfairThe timmy with the Dinisaur deck casting multiple big dinosaurs every turn with trample bitching that I don't attack. Even when I explain him he can do the same or even more damage attacking because he has a shit ton of big lizards with trample(Fucking Pantlaza man)Gosh, I hate Timmies bitching the game doesn't go their way. Specially when he bitches about me exiling/destroying his commander when he's clearly the biggest threat. I always gotta tip-toe around when playing against him 1v1 or even with our friend's pod, I always gotta hold back in some way with him because he's a big crybaby.Like, man, it's a game that we all want to win, destroy and threat asessment are part of the game.Obviously he doesn't bitch around when he's winning or destroying my board/play, he even laughs and gets overconfident
>>98320600This looks extremely janky. What does it do?
>>98320610Random Counters: The Deck. I tried making Atraxa as bracket 2 as possible, doing just random shit. All the Level Up creatures I could find with creatures/enchantments/artifacts that do random things. Also gave me an excuse to finally put Armageddon Clock into a deck (and actually make it work), something I've tried and failed to do for like 20 years lol
I wish they'd just release Star Trek so I could tune out of releases for the rest of the year.
>>98320919BASED
>>98320919I am interested in Reality Fracture but other than that Trek is the only other thing, just because I want to run a Neelix group hug food deck.
>>98320919Can't wait for Q to be some shitty flying indestructible token you only get after blowing half the LGS
>trying to make a fun, tier 2 deck out of spare RW cards>gone through 4 different potential commanders so far>realize I can make a pretty great Brion deck>Throw in his daughter purely for thematic purposesI'm pretty sure that if I have Brion throw his daughter into someone's face, I should win the game automatically.
>>98320953I legit wonder if they're going to have the balls to include Neelix and Kes. I think they will accidentally since Gavin and co are lipstick nerds who don't actually consume nerd non-currently popular media and CBS is too lazy and inept to include someone on staff to ensure the lore is maintained like Square did with FF. I really hope they do for the whole SHE'S NOT ACTUALLY 2 SHE'S JUST SHORT LIVED flame wars.
I don't hate Trek but forcing it into Magic is lame and gay and will be nothing more than a shitty EoE 2
>>98320972>Q, Quantum Nuisance >0 Mana>Split Second >Indestructible>Protection From Everything>You Have Protection From Everything >All damage dealt to you is dealt to Q instead>If Q would leave the battlefield, instead immediately end the turn and then return Q to the battlefield>Each player in or outside of the game gains the following ability: 0 mana, Chose someone at the table or outside of the game with the darkest skin: they may punch the owner of Q as hard as they can. If they die, remove Q from the game and then tear up the card. Activate only as a sorcery.
The real question is if Data will be a robot, a construct, or a new creature type
>>98321019Artifact Android Hero Crewmember
>>98319763It symbolized the supremacy or UB flavor over anything MTG in-universe. It's 9999 because that's the Final Fantasy numbers, but in Magic 9999 has a very different meaning. Early Magic intentionally printed 9/9, 10/10, 11/11, 12/12 etc statlines in sequence set to set because the scale of the game mattered. 9999 communicates that Magic's scale doesn't matter, Final Fantasy's does.
>>98321039Which is honestly how it should be.
Genuinely I do not understand what the wincon is of the FF precon.
>>98321104What do you mean?
>>98321108That post was as plain as day so I have no clue what you want me to say.
>>98321111>>98321104aren't there four Final Fantasy precons though?
>>98321114You know what that's my bad. I meant fantastic four. I'm retarded.
>>98321116Thought you were talking about Final Fantasy lol
>>98321116The deck seemingly doesn’t have one, it’s the most aimless batshit deck ever made by wotc in a long while, I gotta pull mine apart for singles.
>>98321032>crewmemberGod fucking dammit they're really going to do this, aren't they?
Why the fuck would I spend wubrg just to cheat out 1 guy 1 time only when I could be playing prismatic bridge instead and get guaranteed value every turn
>>98315796There are a lot of equipment that give lifelink, and damage doublers/triplers make it asymmetrical. Using a Tarnished Citadel to make mana and deal yourself three damage with a Furnace of Rath on the board deals me 6 damage and my opponent 12. Multiple doublers and especially ones that affect opponents only like Twin-headed Tyrant make the life cost very reasonable.
>>98321181This guy exists so 5c decks have a 1 drop commander. His text box barely matters at all aside from including all 5 mana symbols. Terrible design.
>>98321116>>98321143The doom precon also has this issue where it's too unfocused and can't really close out games.The heroes precon is your typical aggroslop that dies to anyone playing good cards and the black panther deck suffers from having no good artifacts to play
>>98321181>>98321227>5c can have the most terrible designs just for the sake of having a 1cmc commander but god forbid mono have hybrid
>>98320570honestly not that impressive
>>98320156>>98320397Okay, At least the keyword isn't entirely retired. But both reasons are horrible IMO. It makes a difference mechanically. If they had argued it sometimes would be too powerful if it could interact with things like picrel, I could understand.(I am still pissed I can't Cook (Food Tokens) or Dig (for Treasure Tokens))
>>98321143>>98321104the wincon is to touch a bunch of cardboard and not actually win the game but you gotta understand that wotc doesn't print "precons" as actual pre-constructed decks that you are meant to play, they have fully realized that a) gating new useful card designs behind retail products drives demands for those specific products, AND b) having useless dead cards in a precon means that anyone who buys it intending to actually play it, will have "upgrades" they want to make to it, which drives demand on the secondary market and also pushes a new player into the entire EDH community / infosphere ecosystem looking for advice (not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely good for wotc since it's so consumption focused and there are so many wotc shills there (with some notable exceptions)) so the precons are only somewhat concerned with being cohesive 100-card decks. they are equally or more concerned with serving as avenues for new card designs that wotc kinda just wants an excuse to print. the same goes for the Jumpstart spam, holy tittyfuckking chipmunks, batman there are 184 brand new cards in the Jumpstart, that's as much as a small set. and if you think I'm wrong then just explain to me what the fuck this card is doing in Doctor Doom's list? well she's there so that monoR commander decks can have a melee-giver now, not because Dr Doom cares that much about attacking. same goes for Molecule Man or the boros Black Widow that draws a million cards. so basically what I'm saying is that you should expect this trend to continue. >>98321343lold because I was thinking the same thingif this was the kind of place where people did that sort of thing, I'd post my Eliwood and Hector custom cards...
>>98321343>>98321433Meds
>>98321181>1 time onlyBro your blink?
>>98315858Friend built this. It wasn't very good but occasionally pooped out a really niche play
Hildibrand Manderville... stickers
Due to power creep, mill is more likely to empower your opponents than hurt them.Than I discovered this card. I realized that leyline of the void, exile mill, umbris…It makes experienced players fucking seethe.>fucking around with a Umbris>hits 3 free counterspells, cyc rift, combo pieces, glacial chasm>12 cards>cast pic rel>glarb player loses their fucking mind and exiles 32 cards (25 lands)>orzhov player is checked out, void stops death triggers>oblivion sower glarbs lands>he scoops and is yelling about how his deck is fucked now>mind grind for 8>exile most of their decks>the absolute look of seething
Is tappedout still an okay website to use for personal-use deckbuilding? Should I switch to moxfield? Thank you.
>>98322072i use tappedout, it's still fine
>>98319981>do you run any OG generals>no OG generals that are monksThat's gonna be a no from me dawg.
>>98321181This general for the last year has noticeably become more retarded. Takes are just trash.This guy is the leader of the organization in marvel and is clearly meant to be played as a ‘play with all of your favorite marvel characters’ and not broken
>>98321343>>98321433Magic x Fire Emblem crossover when?I still have some of the FE Cipher cards from when I was in Japan.
>>98322437>>98322437>>98322437
>>98317219The players not dead until stack resolvesSo the combat damage trigger happens when damage is dealt, the player loses after damage is dealt.
>>98323180Flase. Players die as state-based actions. The trigger just doesn't care about whether or not a player is there, the damage was still dealt.
