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>>98335351>TQOC means Original Character, OC character means Original Character Character.Why not an OC in an official subfaction?
May Chay-obs take the world!
>Read the End and Death volume 3>The Fight between Horus and the Emperor blows up stars across the galaxy>The Chaos Gods' screams cause stars at the fringes of the galaxy to be sniffed out like candles.40K is DBZ now?
new Thread Question!>What's the most NPC faction?I'd say tyranids. They're just nom nom bugs. At best they serve as a short of indifferent universe cosmic horror, but they're just a side dish compared to the big dramas going on in the setting.
So how do you feel about the fact the none Tau auxillary races including humans made a new god in the warp who represents the greater good and has proven to be able to purify chaos taint?
One thing they mentioned in the FAQ yesterday is that the new lore sections of each of the new Codexes has a narrative framing device with which to explore the culture and day-to-day experiences of the members of the faction.The example they gave was that the Space Marine codex has a walk through a fortress monastery that goes room by room and talks about the different features within and what the aspirants and battle brothers are doing within each.So my thought is what would you guys like to see as the narrative exploration of your own favorite factions' culture within a codex this Edition? What perspective or location or structure would you like to see a deep dive through?
>>98335382nothing like that really happens in that book, and given the lore breaking shit Abnett writes nobody should pay it much attention.He jumped the shark and even hardcore HHfags like me cannot stand that ending.
>>98335391I would like to point out the fact that she is evil. The same text that says she is compassionate says that in the next part, she wants to spread and dominate the entire galaxy.Furthermore, the writer who created her compared her to Slaanesh.
>>98335351>Shoc-kwaveI know it's a minor thing but this hyphenated wrap text formatting in the OP pic bugs the hell out of me.
>>98335396I liked the ending. Loken was a fag anyway.
>>98335391>and has proven to be able to purify chaos taint?it hasn't anyway all gods start out seemingly good, many eldar probably thought they god they were spawning was one of good
>>98335382>>Read the End and Death volume 3Why would you read BL?
>>98335382No it's yugioh
>Imperium is full of traditions that were made in response to a particular temporary issue that became calcified and can't be changed now>Same with Eldar>Same with VotannIs there anything like this for Tau?
>>98335391Modern 40k "lore" is garbage, I'm glad I keep forgetting about it
>>98335417Her idols warded the Nurglite taint.During the final ship on the Death Guard capital ship, the alien allies of Shadowsun prayed to the goddess, it created a protective sphere around them that stopped the plagues of nurgle.
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>>98335417In the last Shadowsun novel the Death Guard are plaguing a sept world and the churches the auxillaries raised to Tau'va are the only places on the planet repelling the taint of nurgle and when a unit of pathfinders are almost lost they pray to her and a miracle occurs purging the taint from the area and banishing demons of nurgle.
>>98335425The Fourth Sphere.The T'au Empire becoming increasingly quick to beat up the Imperials rather than talk to them since Imperials are bad faith in diplomacy.
>>98335403>The same text that says she is compassionate says that in the next part, she wants to spread and dominate the entire galaxy.I mean thats basically the Taus modus operandi isn't it?
>>98335430>Her idols warded the Nurglite taint.I wouldn't call it purification of chaos taint until you can pick a chaosfag wash it in celestial soap and have it come out a normal dude like a few things in aos can do
>>98335407Loken's ending sucked too. Not because he dies, but the lame way it all happens.>Staying behind near Horus corpse>His retarded dialogue with Abbadon, the man who sent him to die at Isstvan III, trying to convince him that the Imperium could forgive the SoH (lol)>Erebus teleporting behind his back with a shiv, as if marines do not wear backpacks>All for the sake of Lucas level potteryIt was all forced, stupid garbage. He should have died at I3 or during the VS raid.
>>98335386Guard, admech, demons, and unfortunately orks.
>>98335438Actually its been shown on a world totally lost to chaos that after destroying the great idols summoning in demons that from the status of Tau'va healthy microbial life was returning to the soil and new plant shoots were starting to grow and its been a minute but im pretty sure a SoB saints tomb has done the same thing.
>>98335438Why do you think they kidnapped the Death Guard by the end of the book?
>>98335420I really like the Inquisition trilogy by Ian Watson, who recently passed away.
>>98335351Several
>>98335437She is a reflection of the T'au in the Warp, but through the eyes of their auxiliaries.In a convoluted way, she is their Slaanesh in that she is a product of their sins.
>>98335425>Tau try new ship engines combining Kroot and Human tech>Accidentally open wormhole into warp deeper than imperial ships travel>"Whats a gellar field?">All the none human races fears conjure demons and even the Tau goddess mentioned in this thread>Tau 4th sphere response: welp, i guess we kill all the none Tau now>Shadowsun and the others show up finding a tau only leftover spat out into realspace all battle scarred and mentally damaged>Every single one trains a gun on every auxillary the moment they see them>Refuse to ever take in more>Will send any 5th sphere allied auxillaries into suicide missions as canon fodder and generally consider killing them a benefit because they know now gods and demons exist and anything thats not Tau can dream them into reality.I mean harsh but understandable.
>>98335439What are the Black Shields if they aren't forgiven heretic marines?
>>98335454they weren't kidnapped, they were thrown into a warp limbo to get them out of the way.
>>98335454>A loving dommy mommy goddess will never hold you captive in her loving embrace for eternity
>>98335471I dont think its sin so much as the collective unconcious. Despite their apparent best intentions the end goal of the Tau empire is to spread across the galaxy and incorporate every race but the ork and tyranids. They literally call this "the greater good". The fact it has a negative undertone is natural and obvious they just can't deal with it because they are propgandised to fuck and back from birth.
>>98335481She pulled them out of the wormhole, and she is keeping them with her. She could destroy them easily, yet she didn't. She has plans for them.
>>98335471>>98335475and much like other lore developments that could change too many things (Clonegrim), the Tau goddess has been shelved.It was a product of the Pychic Awakening, but since scared Tau killed their human auxiliaries her power has been diminished to almost nothing
>>98335490She wasn't shelved. Phil Kelly is back as the head of 40K lore writing.The Fourth Sphere got muzzled, and the Gue'vesa are said to be a major part of the forces of the Fifth Sphere.
>>98335490I think its a possible set up for a future Farsight style split to make a auxillary only force its own thing. Not just because they worship Tau'va and theres stuff intimating Shadowsun is her herald like Typhus/Ahriman and the like but if the auxillary massacre the 4th sphere committed comes to light -even if the god and demon stuff remains covered up- that alone is enough to shatter the foundation of the whole thing for many.Maybe it was just being workshopped and canned, maybe its shelved for a later time but the Kroot box and stingwings make me wonder.
>>98335479Loyal marines from traitor legions were accepted as Black Shields. But Sons of Horus after the Siege of Terra? Their captains and leaders? Come on, anon.In reality, this was another example of Abnett not giving a shit about what other authors wrote.After False Gods/Galaxy in Flames/Wolsbane, there's no fucking way Loken wouldn't have out a bolter round into Abby's face the second he saw him.
>>98335506The 10th Kroot lore makes mention of the Fourth Sphere massacres.The Fourth Sphere commanders were arrested and put on trial. It wasn't covered up.
heh
>>98335351>/40kg/ /yourdudes/ pastebin includedthank you.
If the tau god is actually good then I wouldn't mind it taking over the galaxy. Pretty much anything is preferable to chaos, nids, and necrons. I think people have a kneejerk reaction any time they hear someone wants to rule the galaxy, but if they're actually benevolent then them ruling the galaxy is a good thing.
>>98335541ol photography ass nigga
>>98335544She hasn't been born yet. Warp Gods being birthed causes explosions.
>>98335522>Did you order the Gue'vesa Code Red?>You can't handle the truth!A Tau legal drama would be interesting
>>98335553What functionally is the difference between a warp god before and after being born if they exist and can interact in both states?
>>98335558.....GW doesn't want to explain it
40k needs a Dark mechanicum faction.
>>98335386>thread question where the only correct answer is the enemies with no individuality>answering your own thread question and thus making any future replies redundant or wronghorrible thread question, never ask anything again.
I like orks :D
>>98335489Yeah, no, you've got a headcanon, and that's fine, but that's headcanon.
>>98335461That's old BL, plus exceptions confirm rules, as they say
>>98335566>Alright Emps. Take a seat.>And leave Chaos to me.
>>98335570Oh great. Another faction like Chaos Knights. You know, a spiky version of an Imperium faction with zero lore presence of any kind.
>>98335386>>98335450I see your points, but I reject the way the question was written. Nominally the ‘npc’ choice is bad, and you make it sound as if the player is an Npc for having them. But in this context it’s still important to have players who like and play those armies, even though thematically the army itself does embody being a npc for its constituents; it makes it better for everyone.
>>98335610>with zero lore presence of any kind.Make up your own lore?
>>98335629Make up your own kitbashed models?
>>98335558quality and quantity of activity is different
>>98335639You'd think a faction that combines tech development and chaos mutations would appeal to hobbyists who want to convert their own creations.
>>98335386>>98335450Custodes, Votann, and T'au as well
>>98335522I think Tau Auxillaries should just be spun off into their own army, and Tau should just be the actual Tau. They clearly don't want to do anything with the 'alliance of many races' idea in the Tau, and no one else can do it as long as it's the Taus' shtick. Just have some Tau commanders in the army and make them each able to take each other as allied units.
>>98335578nice mold lines everywhere.
Am i missing something, or is the value of pic related better than previous starter sets? I'd rather get this, than the Armageddon box. (its 160€ for the starter vs 180€ for Armageddon here). Compared to the 10th edition starter set terrain, this one is a massive upgrade.
>>98335735nice pic
>>98335735
>>98335724to be fair, most of those are gaps which I don’t have the proper tools to fill. still, I didn’t realize they were that noticeable, so I’ll see what I can do about them.
>>98335386The ubiquitous background enemy of the setting is Space Marines.>>98335391
>>98335735It is similar to last edition ultimate starter set:Terrain + 2 combat patrol.(also rules book is smaller)You miss like 7 space marines (2 heroes and 5 man unit) and 12 orks (you miss the doc and the AT-ST models)If you want to play combat patrol the starter set is better. If you want to play 40k the Armageddon box is better.
>>98335735That new box is $495aud. The previous Leviathan ultimate starter set (the equivalent) was $275aud. Better, sure. But a lot more expensive.
>>98335735The introductory set is a lot better than the 10th edition one as an onboarding box
>>98335770I'm shocked that they cut the least valuable units from the marines half. Heavy bolter eliminators have no useful niche, a second unit of 5 intercessors is pointless, and ancients suck. Only the jump chaplain has any value, for BA in particular. All that could change in a few months with the new codex, obviously, but anyone wanting to start marines is getting a way better deal with the cheaper set with terrain.
>>98335777*eradicators
>guardsmen hold positions>space marines take positions>knights trample positions
>>98335588No. Read the novel. Look at the foreshadowing of a repeat of the Death Guards' fall. The Sorceror he spills it out by the end
>>98335783Heavy bolter eradicators is kind if s crazy decision when weapons like grav are totally missing from the primaris roster
>>98335794They could have been Volkite as well
>>98335805>GW could have done something cool, but they didn'tA tale as old as time.
>>98335570Wouldn't be that hard, you could take all the daemon engines and the lord discordant from CSM and loan them to the faction. And any additional daemon engines you make could be shared between CSM and DM
>>98335386>this faction is an NPC because its doing its own thing and not following galaxy drama like everyone elsemarines are the most NPC faction, bunch of brain washed retards worshiping their space celeb primarchs/emperor/chaos gods because thats what they've been told to do
Reminder that War Zone Charadon books 1&2 are the gold standard for GW's 40k campaigns published from Fall of Cadia onward.
>>98335735You get the terrain too I guess. I rather just buy the tiny intro set for the new 2 squads and a leader with new sculpts, since I already have the armageddon box.
>>98335610>with zero lore presence of any kindGee a faction that doesn't have models yet doesn't have a ton of lore? Holy shit it's like, giving them a model line would also mean they GET lore to go with it. You fucking retard.
>>98335853>giving them a model line would also mean they GET lore to go with it.and yet still waiting for votaan to get lore
>>98335861Votann got lore... a book by Gav Thorpe
>>98335566>every living thing in the galaxyNotably the Tyranids, though, are not from this galaxy, and represent the ultimate cosmic horror of the larger universe so vast and unknowable it even scares the shit out of and ultimately will swallow up and consume the Chaos Gods.That's why the final line of the classic introduction is "but the UNIVERSE is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be missed." It's one of the only places in all of 40k lore that the universe, rather than the galaxy, is mentioned, because it's saying our entire galaxy and everything in it, including even the Chaos Gods, are blips on the radar that will not be missed.This is also why the final age of 40k, The Time of Ending, starts the exact year of the First Tyrannic War, 750.M41. There were no notable Chaos events that happened that year. It was the arrival of the Tyranids that declared this was the end.
>>98335863def need a dark mech book about how chaos techpriests are all black queens and the warp is female
>>98335842> War Zone CharadonThese books were forgettable as fuck.A decade later and we're still living in the shadow of the 6-7th ed campaings like Damocles or Gathering Storm.Meanwhile, nobody remembers all those 8th+ ed campaigns.
>>98335849Why not just wait for them to release those kits separately?
>>98335867>DAoT>M18It's stupid that it took Humanity 15,000 years to become an interstellar civilization. WTF they did during that time in the Sol system?>Age of Strife>M23-M30The Eldar wasted more than 7,000 years partying hard and murderfucking until they birthed Slaanesh. And then they have the gall of pretending any kind of moral superiority.
>>98335873The reason for this is nuGW and 8th ed onward catered so hard to tourneyfags it drove away a lot of narrative players and destroyed the culture and community. If those newer campaign books had come out during the same time period as 6th-7th people would rave about them. We're just infested with lorelet tourneytrannies now who don't care about anything but muh competitive play.
>>98335439FR, how do you even backstab this with a knife? How stupid are BL writers?>oh its a super special magic knifeYeah its still a knife. Its not long enough to reach a marine's vitals from the back. A sword sure, but a knife? Really?
>>98335886>WTF they did during that time in the Sol system?Despair that FTL travel was impossible as scientists today actually believe is the case. And then suddenly mutant psykers emerged and they figured out how to make Warp drives.
>>98335880Because a lieutenant alone costs me $42 and this entire mini set with the intercessors, ork boyz, and nob included, is only $79.
>>98335887I'm a lorefag always hungry for more, and nuGW campaigns leave me dissappointed most of the time with few exceptions.>The forced way they have to include every single faction of the game to appease everyone>the cheap melodrama with no real consequences and reset button at the end>hyping forgettable characters that are never seen again>nonsense continuity The list goes on and on. There are a few nice moments, but they're offset by all the other bad things.
>>98335394>The only good editions are the one featuring a power fistHmmmm what did they mean by this?
>>98335880They probably won't. It's like the Kill Team starter.
>>98335891A space marine knife is almost as long as an AoS normal sword.
>>98335916They said they will release the minis later. But it will probably be cheaper to buy the introductory set unless the other kits comes with additional supres.
>>98335735I think loads of people were supper bummed at just how crummy the 10th ed starter box was. This is certainly a huge upgrade, it’s actually something I can in good faith recommend to a new player.
>>98335873Imperial Armor...
>>98335450guard are not NPCs. They are the Luigi to the space marine's Mario
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98335938>They are the Luigi to the space marine's Mariothat's irrelevant space marines like imperial fists, who are a negative color scheme of ultramarines
>>98335943naw they are like mario's tanooki suit or dr.mario getups.
>>98335394Why did you include Codex Imperialis in this? That's not a Space Marines codex. Should be Codex Ultramarines for the first one.
>>98335770The terrain in the new set is vastly superior to what the previous starter (ultimate) set offered. >>98335773Australians do not matter, sorry.
>>98335773>aud.
>>98335943>>98335938>Main Characters: Space Marines (especially Ultramarines)>Secondary Characters: Imperial Guard, Admech, Eldar>Main Antagonist: Chaos>Secondary Antagonists: Asshole Inquisitors, Orks, Tyranids>Irrelevant NPCs: Sisters, Custodes, Knights, Tau, Dark Eldar, Votann, Necrons, GSCYes, the less important Space Marines (White Scars, etc) can drop to Irrelevant NPC tier when necessary, but the protagonists of the setting are very clearly the Space Marines.
>>98335394They should just make sure that all of the lore for the faction printed since Rogue Trader is finally included in one place. Like if I open that Ork codex which they keep toting as having "the most lore ever" and it doesn't have everything from WAAAAGH DA ORKS I'm gonna shit on them for false advertising.
>>98335938Guard are the Toad to the Marine's Mario. Sisters are the Luigi.
>>98335849I dont have Armageddon, but i consider the Starter set for the terrain. I think its reasonable to sell each combat patrol for 65€ on ebay. Maybe more, but i rather sell cheap, and within a day of listing it. That would reduce the cost of the terrain set down to 30€ (160-130) - That is 100% worth it in my opinion. And compared with pic related, the terrain this time looks a lot more interesting and diverse.
>>98335977guard feature in 20 times more things than anything sisters could hope to be. Even as protags.
>>98335773That is crazy.. like wtf.The 10th Ultimate Starter set costs 140€ here, with the obvious discount applied. The 11th starter set is "only" 20€ more expensive.
>>98335980If you don't have the armageddon box, then yeah, it's still a good deal with all the terrain it comes with, and you're not missing out on too many units either.
>>98335867I think one of the coolest things about the Genestealers are the ones that have tentacle faces and lack human features that the ones that mixed with humans have. If there’s some lore that neatly explains it somewhere that’d be lame, the reminder that the Nids have been destroying civilizations for a long time is really cool.
What faction is the worst about 'all of our units just look the same and are impossible to tell apart at a glance?'
>>98336009Space Marines, considering how much of their infantry is just "Primaris marine, but with a slightly different gun this time."
>>98335394I remember going through the PDF of an old Ogre armybook for WHFB and they had anatomy sketches of Ogres and their unique features, I think it would be neat if every faction got that. Especially Orks.
>>98335394Dark Eldar getting an inside look at all the sectors and regions of the Dark Cory of Commoragh and their different competing levels of society would be super cool. I love spotlights on the non-combat and organizational side of factions and we don't see that much outside the Imperium.
>>98336009Nids. Just a visual mess of claws, tentacles, and penis guns without any logic. Only their size tells you if they're relevant.
>>98336035GW already did that with the Xenology book
>>98336009Not to mention all those quest knights coming out of Athel Loren with smooch marks and tokens of red hair..
>>98336050This is just complete fucking nonsense dude, nids have extremely clear visual language. The burrowing ones are all big snakes that slither on their tails so you know those deep strike. The fast ones are leaping with long legs and dynamic poses, the slow ones are ponderous and heavy and low to the ground with big ass guns on their backs, the psychic ones all have exposed pulsating brains and are levitating. Like, you have to be a fucking retard to not be able to tell apart nid units when the designers go out of their way to make it very obvious what they all are.
>>98336057They should bring it back
>>98336050>>98336064>aaaaah guys help me I'm a fucking retarded spazz and I can't tell which of these is the big smashy close combat dreadnought-bug and which is the fragile psychic commander brainbug, all nids look the same!!!
>>98336074literally how the fuck am i supposed to work out the gameplan of these two mass of tentacles and claws?probably both lone op action monkeys
>>98336074>guys this is serious!!! I can't tell which one is the sneaky stabby infiltrating assassin bug and which one is the slow armoured long range artillerybug they all look EXACTLY THE SAAAME AAAHHH
>>98336009Knights, both factions.There are three commonly used models, each model has numerous variants defined by their loadouts.>desecrator? no no, this is my despoiler, see? it can equip TWO of the same weapon, that's why it's different!I say this as a CK player. Because holy fuck.
>>98336084Gee anon I don't know maybe the one with the GIANT FUCKING CANNON on its back is the ranged one that stays back and shoots and the one with GIANT FUCKING CRAB CLAWS AND HUNGRY TENTACLE MOUTH is the melee one that moves up into melee range to eat you?????
>>98336074>>98336084>>98336087All of these look the same.Same face retard bugs.
>>98336050>>98336050you have posted this exact "nids are samey" shtick in multiple threads already, samefagging doesn't make it less obvious
>>98336074>youjustactivatedmytrapcard
>>98336096Medsnta btw
>>98336092Knowing tyranids the giant tentacle mouth is a plasma cannon too and the back penis nid is just a vacuum cleaner that sucks up biomass.I don't know though, I don't care about zerg ripoffs nor do I care to learn about them.
>>98336101Yeah well he's a special case that basically does both.
>>98336104I know you're just baiting but I'm taking this as another opportunity to point out to spectators that Zerg actually stole all of their iconic designs from John Blanche's Tyranid concept art that predated Starcraft by like 7 years.
>triggered nidfagsHoly shit, lol>>98336096No, I didn't. I also didn't expect for this to be even something up for discussion. Nids in a table are samey and hard to read, period. Even GW paints them with deliberate different paitn schemes in their marketing close ups so people can tell them apart more easily.
>>98336009>emperial experiense
>opp tells me about his ground tyrant and a winged tyrant rules>doesn't point out which is whichbro no one plays your faggy NPC army how i am supposed to work this shit out myself? wish i judge called him.
>>98336112>starcraft stole nidsXenomorphs existed before either. Zergs are just xenomorphs ripoffs.
Just finished my space marine scouts from the kill team box, all that I have left in my pile of shame is the eye of terror box and the Leviathan box.
>>98336122Yes Xenomorphs came first and Nids stole from them, but no, Zerg stole directly from Tyranids.
>Boys can now have not only 2 nobs but also 2 of EACH special weaponI'm confident in scratch building power claws but making more flamers and big shoota's is going to be a bit of a challenge.Rokkits are easy to come by/kitbash at least.
>>98336113>retard gets BTFO>”erm, you’re projecting/seething/triggered/mad”many such cases!
>>98335873>Damocles or Gathering StormNobody remembers those for being good.
>Take an elf>put him in space >call him a dragon knight >put him on a wingless dinosaur Impressive they found a way to make elves even lamer who the hell wouldn’t buy the cyber space dragon elves army not elves larping as Lizardmen
I don't understand why a Palatine would ever take a Bolt Pistol over a Plasma Pistol.
>>98336135>but making more flamers and big shoota's is going to be a bit of a challenge.Naur, das eazy ya git
>>98336139>btfoDid I? you didn't post anything that disproved that Nids are harder to read in a table, nidfag.Close ups of models do not count.
>>98336152In real editions it would cost an extra 5-10 points for a plasma pistol. Fuck modern 40k and its free wargear.
What even are Ethereals? Are they real Tau? Are they made by some other force to use the Tau?
>>98336157Bro you got BTFO by like three different posters, cry about it lmao
>>98336120> I don't know what a wing looks like> I can't comprehend when something doesn't have wings, it's not a "winged" beingHoly shit, anon. At least fake having a brain
>>98336152>>98336159Literally zero advantages.
>>98336163They were genetically engineered by the Eldar if I remember correctly.
>>98336152Plasma should always be Hazardous.
>>98336165>It wasn't me samefagging! lol, sure nidfaggot
>>98336170Exactly. Free wargear was a mistake.
Ostromandeus' friends
>>98336144But you remember them! Who the fuck remembers Charadon?
>nobz get leaked>the pic is absolute arseCome the fuck on
>>98336152If the rules were better, bolt pistols would have more shots than plasma pistols as a side grade
>>98336185I do.
>>98336105Was just teasing anon. But the Kirby era dual kits are all terrible slop that do damage the tyranid IP and we would be better off without them.
>>98336157none of those previous posts are me and I don’t even like nids, but you just got shown multiple examples of models that are easy to read >but on a table they’re hardunironically get your eyes checked if a table distance makes it so you can’t see a cannon on the back of a model. I’m not even sure if it’s legal for you to drive if its that bad. I myself and no doubt the anons you replied to have good eyes, so a looking at any model from table distance is no problem, and we assumed you were the same.
>>98336186does it even count as a leak if it's from GW themselves
>>98335351Does anyone have any experience with Necron models?I'm thinking of starting an army for Sarkon - the dynasty entirely composed of Severed, personality-free Necrons led by a genocidal tomb world AI - and thought it would be neat to remove the mouths from all the crons to represent their collective drive to silence the galaxy.What would be the best way to go about this? Just filing down the little skeleton mouths? Greenstuff seems like overkill.
>>98336201you're not fooling anyone, nidfag.Look at this mess. They're too busy from a distance. Besides size and wings, their silouettes become mixed with all others.
>>98336208bit of plastic glue to melt the detail, then sand
>>98336208Necrons warriors are easy to build, but the more complex minis can be a bit fiddly. Too many thin small bits.For the mouths you can use putty paste sold in tubes. Way easier to use than green stuff if you just want ot cover small engraved details.
>>98336215Dude that's perfect! I was just worried GW made the mouths way too integral to the head model.OldCrons, here I come!
>>98336210I can't imagine playing Nids. It already takes me an eternity to paint all of my Sisters.
>>98336223>but the more complex minis can be a bit fiddly...too many thin small bitsGood to know! Thankfully I ran AdMech back in the day so I am well acquainted with the ass-pain of greebly, thin models
>>98336152Before 10th edition, the Palatine would be cheaper if you took the bolt pistol.
>>98336186Whenever there's a potato cam leak GW puts the real one up on warcom pretty soon after.
>>98336152Shrimplified, not Shrimple!
>>98335867What is this cope? The writers of 40K say different. In addition, it's said that if Chaos wins, the universe ends. Not the galaxy, the universe.
>>98336210nta but you can tell them apart fairly easily since their carapace shapes are all different leading to each unit having its own silhouette. Not that it matters though since this is just meaningless shitflinging that will convince nobody of either side of anything
>>98335867>>98336260>nidfag vs chaosfag
>>98336152You don't have to buy blue paint
>>98336272>you can tell them apart fairly easily since their carapace shapes are all different
>>98336148
>>98336260>The writers of 40K say different.Wrong, actually.
>>98336009I still don't know what the fuck the difference is between a Battle Sisters squad and a Dominion squad is. The store pages use the exact same image for both.
>>98336286>projectionWhy that dude has an aquila in his cap? Only eldarfags are whining about the Exodite models, lol
>>98335867>IM-FUCKING-PLYING that GW will ever let anything be considered even on par with their four special princessesDude come on we both know that nids will never be anywhere near the level of chaos in terms of wank>>98336288now read the part where they jerk off the Gods as having infinity+1 universes to leech off of so actually they never lose
>>98336300Nulore written after the original creators were gone doesn't count. Also Age of Sigmar/Fantasy lore doesn't count, the Tyranids specifically are in 40k because they represent the level of cosmic horror exponentially larger in scale than something that can exist in Fantasy.
>>98336303>the Tyranids specifically are in 40k because they represent the level of cosmic horror exponentially larger in scale than something that can exist in Fantasynah it's because they didn't want to crowbar outright aliens in their fantasy game
>>98336303>Tyranids specifically are in 40k because they represent the level of cosmic horror exponentially larger in scale than something that can exist in Fantasy.no, just put an infinite number of unspeakable eldritch demons in the ground
>>98336294fuck off ESL
>>98336294Read the post chain you are replying to. And the Aquila is just the most generic 40K logo, not specific to any faction.
>>98336288>>98336300Codexes are written from the PoV of the faction and try to hype it as much as possible. Taking these statements at face value is stupid.>NidsNom some planets, others get extermintatus, tendril gets wiped out, repeat. The opening of the Rift fucked them over, badly. They'll never eat the galaxy.>ChaosDelusional and high in their own supply. A psychic manifestation that require realspace beings to enter reality. All the claims about universes are just stuff inside the warp, not anything outside the Milky Way. Multiple accounts of travellers near the galaxy border talking about how dim and stale the Warp becomes.Chaos also has no guarantee to win anything once GW decided to hype the Emperor and make him active in 40k.
>>98336303>Nulore written after the original creators were gone doesn't count.retard alert!>>98336317>the Aquila is just the most generic 40K logo, not specific to any factionlol
>>98336314it's your fault if you only are able to speak your mongrel tongue like the pleb you are
>>98335549It's just shit lightning in general
>>98335351My dudes are world eaters who took the nails and follow Khorne but rejected angrons leadership and either in spirit or fake lore I made up, follow Llhorke and I have an army I run in HH and in 40k thays basically the same list. Kharn is proxies as my own OC and the praetors have their own lore and such. They're in pre heresy color scheme pic rel
I think im gonna go all in on orks this edition. does the new battalion box seem like a good value? 6 coptas, trike and the squig buggy.
>>98336334How's the weather in 'straya these days anon
>>98336288What the fuck? You think that overrides what GW writers said? They said Chaos is eternal. Not even the death of all mortal life will stop them.The Hivemind died when the Great Rift spawned. What do you think will happen when Chaos ends reality?
>>98336186Can I see it please?
idgaf about muhrines or orks but the starter set looks nice for the terrain only, might get one and sell the models. Or just get the terrain set when they sell it later.
>>98336347>You think that overrides what GW writers said?It is written by a GW writer. One who was actually there while the original creator was still in charge, and therefore greenlight by the highest authority of canon.>The Hivemind died when the Great Rift spawned.Nulore fanfiction lmao, original creator was long gone when this slop was shit out.
>>98336319>>98336303Alan Merrit and Rick Priestley said that Chaos will win in the end.Stu Black, Matt Ward, Phil Kelly, Andy Clark, ADB all said that Chaos is the ultimate big bad of 40K and Xenos stories are secondary to the story of humanity against Chaos.
>>98335683„Kroot and friends“ xeno mercs would be a kino army Throw in all the throwaway Xenos like the one tarellisn model we got and the sslyth in there too
>>98336347>>98336354You both are wrong for different reasons, but...>the original creator>highest authority of canon>Nulore this is just a larp, right? You're not really so fucking retarded to say all that shit seriously?
Put my almost finished blood pact next to my other traitor guard just to see how they look together. These guys total 40 troops and then I have a 10 man squad traitor stormtroopers
>>98336356>Chaos is the ultimate big bad of 40Ksure>Chaos will win in the end.That's undecided. You haven't been paying attention for the last decade, do you?
>>98336335It's ok IF(!) you actually want to use/like the models in the box.If you are not already going for speed freeks I dont think it's that worth it.It's main purpose is to offload their excess of deffkoptas.
What colours are techmarine shoulder pads supposed to be? Deathwatch specifically.
>>98336365It's not.ADB had the Emperor say that Chaos will win in the end in MoM. He affirmed it in the Afterword.Laurie Goulding supported ADB by saying that it's indeed the destined ending of 40K
Can I see this nob leak, searching 'leaked nob pics' will probably not be helpful
>>98336356>Alan Merrit and Rick Priestley said that Chaos will win in the end.It's Merret. And the Realms of Chaos section on the Emperor paints a different picture.
>>98336383The Emperor is a liar, and the Afterword is written from that PoV.That's the same book where Big E grooms a custode during all the story just to sacrifice him at a designated time because he knew Drachn'yen was on its way to shiv him.You guys do not read between the lines.
>>98336386Propaganda. Commentary outside the books discusses how Chaos will win in all Warhammer settings.
>>98336362They look like how I imagine they would, well supplied with proper gear next to mostly salvaged and patched together uniforms.
>>98336384
>>98336384But if you don't check you'll never know
>>98336395That's fine for fantasy shit that it's just a dream in the Warp of the 40k galaxy.In the Milky Way, the Inmaterium was once calm and there were no Gods. And somebody seems to have a plan to get back to that original state.>b-but that Ynnari book!not canon, GW already forgot about it along the return of the SW 13th company.And do not make me talk about the SoB faith powers that do not use the warp according to GW.
>>98336334>Follow an ADB OCSpiritually cucked.
>>98336392He has no reason to lie to the Custodes at the end of the book. All he did was traumatize the Custodes by telling him that it's over, Chaos won and all that remains is dragging out their win.The afterword is written by ADB. He is talking.
>>98336378It's complicated, this is about the only reference you'll ever find for a deathwatch techmarine apparently.
>>98336362kino, can I get a close up on red skull over there in the middle?
>>98336413Vashtorr was literally said to have witnessed the biotransference.And 11th Battle Patrol companion Chaos section says that the Chaos Gods were worshipped for millions of years BEFORE humanity appeared on Terra. The whole thing about the Warp being calm is bullshit
>>98336423Go read the prologue to the Valor book.Or how he lies to the Custodes in Fury of Magnus so they leave him alone.Or how he puppeteers and brainwashes people when it suits his plans.Also that excerp doesn't say that "Chaos will win". It says 2 things: The Webway war defeat sealed the fate of Mankind for the foreseable future, and that a long decadence period had begun.It's the author just repeating the plot of that book. But there are many other books.
So do these guys even like 40k?
>>98336434Vashtorr can have seen that or a memory of that as part of being a timeless Daemon. But he's also a badly executed daemon by the talentless hacks of the main studio.> 11th Battle Patrol companion Chaos sectionlmao, I have read more relevant material in tissue paper> Chaos Gods were worshipped for millions of years BEFORE humanity appeared on Terrawhich is nothing new unless you're one of those fake grogs that say that only Realms of Chaos counts>The whole thing about the Warp being calm is bullshitNo, it has been repeated in multiple sources from different PoVs. Including the Emperor himselfIt's 100% canon.
>>98336426Dope, thanks. It'd just the land raider gunner with the shoulder pad so imma go with silver for the cogwheel and trim.
>>98336453No, they're hacks and grifters ragebaiting people for engagement and clicks.Avoid
>>98336133>Zerg stole directly from Tyranids.They didn't. They stole directly from xenomorphs.
>>98336434>Vashtorr was literally said to have witnessed the biotransference.That's a retcon. Vashtorr never existed.
>>98336453The American one played it with his dad growing up, and they riffed on 40k when making their early animations leading into Space King. They're not Fans or Purists and have never pretended to be.They don't criticise GW's dumb writing any more than we do here.
>>98336395>everything originates from chaosSo sisters of battle are just daemon shit? Fascinating.Lame though.
>>98336453Yeah, they just take issue with the lore and some other retarded shit GW does.A lot like us, actually.
>>98336474You're the kind of retard to say warcraft orcs don't steal from warhammer fantasy because tolkien created orcs as a modern fantasy concept but will disingenuously ignore that orcs (and zerg) pull more from something derivative of the original concept than the concept itself
>>98336453I have no idea who these faggots are.
>>98336474>he says, replying to a literal fucking image post that proves otherwiseBlind retard
>>98336453Yes, unless you have a weird definition of what "liking" means.
>>98336458>No, it has been repeated in multiple sources from different PoVs. Including the Emperor himselfThey wouldn't know. They haven't been there.Humanity appeared on Terra 60 million years ago. If the gods were worshipped millions of years before that, then the Warp was never calm
>>98336396Thanks bro>>98336429Thanks. Im out right now but I got you when im home. Prob will be in a new thread. For now here's some tanith I'm also working on. In my head canon they wear green because thats what the old cover art showed
>>98335382No, Futurama.
>>98336544>Humanity appeared on Terra 60 million years agowtf are you talking about?
>>98336544>Humanity appeared on Terra 60 million years ago.Are you american or muslim, anon?
>>98335391Slaanesh being born created the Eye of Terror and wiped out most of the Eldar, so why hasn't Mechashiva done the same to the Tau Empire?
>>98336544>Humanity appeared on Terra 60 million years agoAnon, modern humans have only been around for like 338,000 years, as of the 41st millennium
>>98336356>Alan Merrit and Rick Priestley said that Chaos will win in the end.Only about Fantasy.>Stu Black, Matt Ward, Phil Kelly, Andy Clark, ADBAll irrelevant newfags or people hated by the majority of the fandom for their terrible lore, or people whose words you are twisting. Using Matt Ward as an example is actually just harming your argument lmfao.
>>98336453I get the impression that they are just black templar fags. Their weird critism that all chapters just lean too much on their shtick (White Scars being too Mongolian, Salamanders being too nice and fire obsessed, Space Wolves being too viking (fair)) is pretty retarded when black templars are also one note when their whole thing is just larping as the Templars.
>>98336562>>98336558>>983365533rd edition lore says that humanity appeared on Terra 60 million years ago as part of the Old Ones' creations. They were a lesser creation of the Slanni.
>>9833656340K too.>Using Matt Ward as an example is actually just harming your argument lmfao.Not when he i saying the exact same thing.
>>98336577>their whole thing is just larping as the Templars.They're really not like the Templars at all.
>>98336588>comical tree-beastsThey are clearly referring to primitive mammalian ancestors that mankind evolved from, anon. Please stop being retarded.
>>98336559they aren't as psychically attuned as the eldar, and they don't use the warp to travel
>>98336588>anon doesn't understand what he reads, againThe original Mon-keigh weren't humans or proto humans. Eldar call 40k humans that as a slur, but they're not the same. Neither are the Jokaero. Humans in 40k evolved in Terra like IRL.There were Chaos worshippers millions of years ago, but none were human.
>>98336588Strange that humans are an Old One creation.
>>98336577Christian Knights Templar is a richer one note to play on than Vampire, Wolf, or Fire.
>>98336634It's canon that humans come from an Old One "template", but not that they created humans on purpose, since they dissapeared millions of years before humans evolved.It's more like humans are a runaway branch of their experiments, or that somebody else meddled in Earth development (eldar? Necrons?)
>>98336559Well she introduced religion to a secular society and that didn't end so well for Humanity.
>>98336588>tree-beastsThis is literally just reference to primates.Or even early squirrel/shrew like mammals that are the ancestors of primates.Humans never existed in the War in Heaven, at what existed were just fucking tree rats like pic related.
>>98336674You're forgetting the Jokaero
>>98336674My ancestor :)
>>98336634What's really strange it's that GW chose 60 millions ago as the date for the War in Heaven instead of 65. Which looks like the obvious one and more clear reference (dinos went extinct on Earth)
>>98336674It should also be noted that the Eldar speaking is probably not making a distinction between Homo Sapiens and silly little tree rats from the Paleocene simply because they find it amusing to equate the two.
>>98336334what's the helmet from?
>>98336678Jokaero are aliens.
>>98336706Why would the Eldar even know about those in the first place?Honestly, if they controlled the galaxy for 65 million years, why were there even still planets for humans to move onto? Even when the Exodites started to move away from normal Eldar society, that's, what, a few hundred planets they colonized? At most?
>>98336717The galaxy is a big place and the Eldar make Koreans look fecund.
>>98336607They called them Mon'keigh (humans). Deal with it.
>>98336559Slaanesh is an evil dickhead god of hedonism, pleasure, obsession, etc. So it wanting to eat the eldar souls is entirely on point theme-wise.The Greater Good Goddess on the other hand isn't a dickhead and isn't fancying to eat blueberries. She also represents unity and peace. So her just eating the souls of her mortal race just doesn't fit.Tanget that is kind of related but not really, but I'm also too lazy make a separate post so here have this:Also there's some implications hinting towards that Slaanesh isn't actually "fully formed" so to speak, reason being that Yncarne's (Ynnead's avatar in real space) apperance is weirdly enough very androgynous with no reason given for it.It even has the 1 female breast and 1 flat pectoral thing going on like many slaaneshy daemons do. It even has a horn growing out of the side of its head. Which could be a hint that Ynnead is Slaanesh' missing part.So the implication is that Slaanesh is instinctively eating all the eldar souls/killing the eldar race so it can force Rhana Dhandra to happen faster, which would then cause Ynnead finally to be born, meaning Slaanesh can then merge with Ynnead and become "whole" finally.Is this a good idea to happen? Should it be let happen? Would Slaanesh' "personality"change to be nicer or would it still eat eldar souls? Is any of this actually real? We do not know.Mind you this is purely MY OWN schizo speculation ramblings and there's basically 0 evidence for this in the fluff beyond some weirdly design similarities.
>>98336717>Why would the Eldar even know about those in the first place?Probably they decided to look around at a bunch of Old One worlds post war.>Honestly, if they controlled the galaxy for 65 million yearsThey probably didn't. They probably rose and fell numerous times over that time span in a cycle. We know they were enslaved by the original Mon'keigh at some point, and that they took on the Krork at the height of their power.
>>98336717>Why would the Eldar even know about those in the first place?How much the Eldar know of the Old Ones and their own history seemingly has been downplayed over the years. That excerpt was from 3rd edition, Eldar refer to the War in Heaven as if it was some mythical event.>why were there even still planets for humans to move ontoThey typically stuck to their own section of the galaxy. We know they ventured out occasionally, because originally Craftworlds were trade and exploratory vessels, but by the Dark Age of Tech they mostly couldn't be bothered to police the whole galaxy. They had mostly amiable relations with humanity prior to the fall, anyway.
>>98336286>implying I like Ynnari GW actually decided to try for once with Eldar even if they gave up not even half way through And yes it fucking sucks dragons would’ve been cooler and interesting
>he doesnt take tervigons and blobs of gauntslol have fun LOSING!
>>98336559the t'au thing is a minor warp entity, not a chaos god. There's thousands of them. It's not even close to being on the same level as Vashtorr or Be'lakor.
>>98336749They’re saving Dragons for Vulkan
>>98336707I think a standard praetor box, just painted leadership markings to make it more lore accurate
>>98336752>It's not even close to being on the same level as Vashtorr or Be'lakor.Idk it gets mentioned and is about as relevant as Be’lakor
>>98336717>Why would the Eldar even know about those in the first place?Because eldar have been to Earth before?Like there is/was an eldar webway gate on the Earth's Moon, but there was also the webway gate on Earth, on Terra. It's the one the Emperor is keeping shut with his power. Which already tells us that the eldar have been to earth, because why else would these gates be there.Also we know there's a Dark Eldar homonculus who is a fan of Bach weirdly enough. Meaning the eldar have been to Earth periodically.Many of them could have just been to Earth for the funsies.
>>98336453on a surface level like the majority of normies who happened to be into it before loretubers
>>98336736>Mon'keigh (humans)Colloquially. This does not mean that the comical tree-beasts in question were literally Homo Sapiens. The excerpt explicitly says that the primitive creatures that existed prior to the War in Heaven "developed in unforeseeable ways" and that "raw, elemental evolution took a hold". Neither of these would be true if the "Mon-keigh" that existed pre-war were modern humans. Again, please stop being retarded.
>>98336765Be'lakor is Abaddon's champion.Also, he is responsible for some of the Black Crusades.
>>98336736If I call you a retard, does it mean that you're actually born mentally disabled, retard?
>>98336772You are pedantic.Here is lore about daemons being imprisoned before life appeared on Terra.
How difficult is it to invent a flavorful respawn mechanic? Am I to assume it's near impossible since it hasn't been done for the past eight editions?
>>98336783That does absolutely nothing to prove that humanity first appeared on earth 60 million years ago. Try to stay on topic.
>>98336604>>98336642bt seethe
>>98336148shit like this is why i love age of sigmar. all the no fun allowed stick up their ass cunts just bounce right off it. i'd love to see more out there goofy shit like that in 40k so it can do the same thing
>>98336783Retard, none of this mentions anything about humans existing.It literally just says "this shit is super fucking old and the size of a planet that was created a by god like race", that's all it is.And the god like race can just mean shit like the Old Ones or even Eldar themselves since pre-Fall eldar WERE basically like gods in their own right.Their psychic power and potential were unmatched and they could just reincarnate/resurrect themselves endlesslly and could use their psychic powers completely freely and without issue.
>>9833680340k is so full of stupid shit its wild some people pretend its serious
>>98336810>>98336794The main point is that the Warp was never calm. It was filled with daemons.
>>98336814some armies are. some armies really arent though.like space marines. the whole army is just guy with bolter. guy with power sword. guy with two bolters in an unusal position. guy in a square tank. guy in another square tank. 75 patterns of armor that all look almost identical. at least chaos gets to play around with the occasional dragon or daemon, and imperial guard have those weird clawed horses. but if i had my way all the aesthetic purists who get their nose bent out of joint at the slightest thing would all just quarantine themselves in HH and leave the rest of us in peace to enjoy our space dinosaur elves and fresh smelling hovercraft
>>98336839Don't care. You misinterpreted a 3rd edition lore blurb and claimed mankind showed up 60 million years ago, which was blatantly wrong. Multiple people told you how silly it was and you kept arguing.
>>98336792If it's slain by a character model, that unit needs to take a leadership test at the start of every command phase with an incremental penalty. If it fails, the character is killed and replaced by Lucius inside the engagement range of it.
>>98336856Another piece of 3rd edition lore says that the Old Ones created humanity.The Xenology mural has a human embryo depicting humanity among the races created by the Old Ones.Stop resisting the truth.
>>98336873Xenology is not canon.
>>98336347>hivemind diedTyranids do not have a hivemind in the same sense that Starcraft Zerg have the overmind as one centralized super brain. The hive mind is a distributed intelligence across all tyranids, it has no core. In that sense it cannot be killed, but theoretically if you can separate or isolate somehow (psychically probably) a group of tyranids from the rest you can make them dumber.
>>98336873>but bro this muralPeople intentionally ignoring the fact how the human embryo part is just vaguely drawn onto a piece of paper.That already tells you there's no actual guarantee that this clay tablet is accurate.It'd be one thing if it was an actual piece of the clay tablet, but it's clearly just been drawn.It's literally done this way deliberately where you can't be 100% sure if the person in the Xenology book making this report is at all correct. The guy making the report on this clay tablet could very well be conflating and misintributing a piece of evidence to a completely different separate thing.
Man, this thread is really making me appreciate that I understand that black library isn't canon.
why do you guys still think mankind wasn't made by the old ones?
>>98336929It's sort of more fun if there's a race that barges into these giant epic battles that just has nothing to do with anything.
I find it amusing that asians will write random english words on their models but also use their native language sometimes
>>98336935that's tyranids
>>98336939
>>98336453No, they’re filthy tertiaries. They reacted to the new warhammer trailer and didn’t even know that the monologue is in like every 40k book
>>98336941But nids are explicit creations of the old ones that fled the galaxy.
>>98336929Because it's cooler and more interesting when not everything was created by space frogs.
>>98336895We saw the Hivemind PoV in DoB. It died. It was said that it was the first time the Hivemind tasted death.
>>98336949>But nids are explicit creations of the old onesThey are not.
>>98336929Having everything trace back to a single origin is lame and cringe. It's an idiot's idea of making something epic, instead it makes everything feels mall (see also the immortal emperor).Mankind evolved the normal way.
>>98336949no, they're not, that's only in your head
>>98336953>>98336961but it's not a matter of whether it's good or bad, but whether it's factual or not, and it is
>>98336961nice headcanon
>>98336792Probably something akin to rolling a D6 and using the destroying model's leadership score to determine whether he stays in play.40K would be a lot less painful if it started using D12s and D20's instead of D6.
>>98336929That isn't even what is being debated itt. Some anon claimed humanity is 60 million years old and got laughed at. As for your question: there is a difference between the Old Ones jacking off in the primordial soup which eventually evolved into humans and modern humans being created as-is before the war in heaven.
>>98336959>>98336963They are, back in the 5th Ed codex when the Eldar were fighting the nids one of their farseers tried looking into thehivemind, what she saw was an entity angry with how far her race has fallen and the want to clear the galaxy and start again.
>>98336839>The main point is that the Warp was never calm. It was filled with daemons.Wrong. The Inmaterium was calm before the War in Heaven. And daemons are only one of the beings that live inside it.
>>98337003>made up bullshitI bet the original text says nothing like that, just like the other stuff you've posted
>>98336948That was so fucking funny how they were shitting on the quote thinking it was newly added in "The Universe is a big place and you will not be missed" They really showed themselves up for the spackas they are.
>>98337008Nigger, this is the only thing I've posted this thread, it's not my fault you've never read a codex in your life.
>>98337005Prove it. Not by unreliable narrators but by lore. MODERN LORE.
>>98334853>>98336893Thanks!I plan to use a protractor to get some angles checked and measure some parts with my tape measure and try freecad or blender for sculpting some attachment bits.I am thinking of things like a searchlight instead of the hull gun. Stuff like that. I’m not sure if wga is okay with free stl additions to their plastics being uploaded even if free to download with a donation link at worst.As silly as it sounds I plan to buy some more but one box will be kept for when scanning tech produces cad-like results for archiving for when wga closes as time destroys everything eventually.>>98336939I think you know how they feel when they see random Asian words tattooed on now.I will admit maybe ancient Latin speakers probably think the same way about Latin words stamped on warhammer 40k stuff.Not like the dead can express their complaints though.
>>98336949>>98337003Page number please? I do want pdfs of all the game books ever made. Even the bad ones.Just for the lore parts.If it is true that tyranids tried to flee the galaxy (only if true and not contradicted by retcons) then what usually prevents other races from just fleeing the galaxy as it is a mess? Maybe the other galaxies have their problems too?
>>98336975I don't care if it's factual, it's still gay, lame and retarded. So therefore not canon.
>>98337039I'll have to go grab my biddies old codex, but it was in the fluff section before the timeline break down where it had a more detailed explanation of the nids invading a craft world.
>>98336975>whether it's factual or notI see you're new to 40K. We don't really do that here.
>>98337017Shut the fuck up, retard. Tyranids are not and never have been the creation of anybody from the galaxy. They're intergalactic monsters from outside the Milky Way. That's their whole thing.
>>98337054There a creation of the few old ones that fled the galaxy but went insane while they were travelling the void.
Female marines will be arriving in around 12th edition.
>>98337058>There a creation of the few old ones that fled the galaxyThey are not.
>>98336942>asians paint their marines blackits so over bros.
>>98337062I'm sorry your entire enjoyment of tyranids hinges in them being an entirely new extragalactic threat with no ties to the Milky Way.
>>98337054Actually it's hinted in the Necron codex that the SK made them. No idea why, but there you go.
What in the actual fuck why is this in Chinese? WARHAMMER40K is an English brand, the ACTUAL FUCK ARE THEY DOING?
>>98337058You nerds have the worst headcanons.
>>98336956Clearly it didn’t because there are still Tyranids.
>>98337027It has always been the case since the 3e necron codex to the Emperor saying the same in the Godblight novel.>Wild Ridereldar pipe dreams, not canon
>>98337076Wrong, that was another Eldar conspiracy theory
This news is hitting tyranid "fans" like imperial fist razor wire.
What are the odds that the CSM army rule changes when they get their codex and refresh this edition?
>>98336736Mon'keigh does not mean "human" in Eldar tongue, retard.It means "barbarians who ought to be exterminated" roughly speaking and the Eldar call other xenos species besides Humans that they detest Mon'keigh as well.
>>98337097~100%
>>98337099It actually means "monkey".
>>98337084You don't get to dismiss lore you don't like for no real reason, especially when it's more relevant than your tiny sample of examples.The Emperor wasn't there. The Necrons and Eldar were.
For painting orange, should I use a yellow or pink spray as an undercoat? I tried it once with a black, don't do it guys.
>>98337099In the context of that picture? It means human, you double retard.
>>98337099This is is your brain on "media literacy"
>>98337093I don't need to be a Nidfag to think that you're retarded for saying that they were created by the Eldar.Also it's canon that the reason Nids came to the galaxy because they saw a brief energy flash from a necron machine blowing up during the HH. It was so intense it was detected by dormant nids outside the Milky Way back in 30k.
>>98337116>saying that they were created by the Eldar>EldarOh you actually cannot read, nids were made by the old ones.
>>98337108Wild Rider and that 6th ed campaign bit are the outliers and never have been mentioned again. Even Gav Thorpe doesn't care about a stupid eldar vision anymore.>The Emperor wasn't there.there's no time in the warp, remember?> The Necrons and Eldar were.Necrons do not know anything about the warp except how to keep it at bay with Blackstone, and the Eldar are all dead.
>>98337108>You don't get to dismiss lore you don't like for no real reasonActually you do. Canon isn't real.
>>98336929Because they are tastelets and probably /v/ secondaries that need humanity fuck year to fulfill their black templar adjacent fantasies. When in reality "a precursor race made humanity but were wiped out before they could implement their plans for them and this is what that project gone wild became" is much more interesting than "tau but slow"
>>98337130>never have been mentioned again.VASHTORR LORE>there's no time in the warp, remember?He is not a Warp God, and his vision is obscured, as shown in the HH. The End and the Death has parts where they discuss what the Emperor got wrong about the Warp.>Necrons do not know anything about the warp except how to keep it at bay with Blackstone, and the Eldar are all dead.Necrontyr were fighting daemons alongside the Eldar. They would remember that.The novel has the main character awakening his soul memories of the War in Heaven.
>>98335368nice 3d prints
>>98337100Seriously? Damn, I really liked it. Wanted to get some gambling-themed stuff like casino dice. I hope whatever they change it to isn't stupid.
>>98336759>Make a dinosaur >Call it a dragon>Make a dragon>Call it a salamander Bravo GW
>GW says they will no longer squat armies>so they merge harlequins into eldar>and then release kroot for tau and corsairs for eldar>exodites soon tooDoes the game really need more Xenos codexes when they can just add extra subfactions?Zoats subfaction for tyranids when?
>>98337176What else are they going to add, more Space Marines chapters?
>>98337153>VASHTORR LOREIrrelevant>He is not a Warp GodThe God-Emperor is not a warp god? lmao> The End and the Deathah, yes. The book all midwits that haven't read anything else love to misquote>Necrontyr were fighting daemons alongside the Eldar.No they weren't. There's no proof of that except unreliable eldar visions in a book of dubious canonicity. Written by Gav Thorpe.And just like the stupid "Faith powers are not warp power" bullshit, it's been thankfully not mentioned again. Unlike the warp being in balance before the War in Heaven.
>>98337195Tu'shan is rumoured to be getting a release for Armageddon, that's three named characters for Salamanders, reddit's favorite chapter. Seems very easy to add a supplement for them.
>>98337224shark niggas are the reddit chapter
>>98337202Very relevant.>The God-Emperor is not a warp god? lmaoThe new Terminus Decree lore suggests he isn't there yet. He has a physical body.>No they weren't. There's no proof of that except unreliable eldar visions in a book of dubious canonicity. Don't accuse people of not reading when you didn't read the book. Aeldari Seer souls in the Infinity matrix and the Necron character talk about the old alliance. The MacGuffin in the book is a vault created by a joint effort by the Necrontyr and ancient Eldar to seal the daemons of Chaos. The vault can only be opened by an Eldar interfacing with Necron tech.>And just like the stupid "Faith powers are not warp power" bullshit, Crusade Pariah Nexus came out no so long ago.>Unlike the warp being in balance before the War in Heaven.By unreliable narrators.
>>98337234They're the safe edgy chapter, but every youtuber and redditor fucking loves salamander chungus wise space negros morgan freeman samuel l jackson. Plus they are green, often a colour of autism.
Been interested in assembling miniatures for a time and got my hands on an ork kill squad.Im a bit scared of using plastic glue because of the vapor and I'm a bit paranoid.Was wondering if there is a type of glue that works well with plastics and is safe, I eat elmers glue like I eat my crayons.
>>98337249plastic glue won't hurt you unless you're one of those retards who makes sprue goo
>>98336776>Be'lakor is Abaddon's champion.Does Belakor know that
>>98337259Be’lakor is Archaon’s buck broken bitch
>>98337259Yes.He came to Abaddon and offered his services, telling him that he was the herald of the Chaos Gods.Be'lakor is very jealous of anyone getting close to Abaddon which is why he attacked Vashtorr.
>>98336342kek
>>98337256I mean I am retarded in the diagnosed autism realm but not that retarded. It's just I have no knowledge in the tabletop field so I thought asking you guys is the best option. Thank you for replying.
>>98336743>Also there's some implications hinting towards that Slaanesh isn't actually "fully formed" so to speak, reason being that Yncarne's (Ynnead's avatar in real space) apperance is weirdly enough very androgynous with no reason given for it.It even has the 1 female breast and 1 flat pectoral thing going on like many slaaneshy daemons do. It even has a horn growing out of the side of its head. Which could be a hint that Ynnead is Slaanesh' missing part.Yes but noIsha is the reverse of NurgleCegorach is the reverse of TzeentchKhaine is the reverse of KhorneThey have an interest in preventing these eldar gods from dying as it would fuck them if they did.Slaanesh cannot kill Ynnead without killing xirself, but Ynnead being born would devour Slaanesh because they are the reverse and the same.
>>98337265>him that he was the herald of the Chaos Gods.That’s a different thing than what you just told me >Be'lakor is very jealous of anyone getting close to Abaddon which is why he attacked Vashtorr.I read that campaign that is a false statement he’s mad somebody else is becoming a god over him
>>98336229Nids have no trim, they can be speed-painted extremely quickly with base coats/contrast-likes and dry brushing. The box art hash lines on the edges of the carapace are both optional and pretty quick if you do choose to do them, it's actually not terribly difficult to paint several thousand points of nids in a month. Sisters are human-sized which is nice for sheer area needed to cover, but other than that their only advantage for ease of painting is being mostly armored in the same 3 or 4 materials and having plenty of helmets, unlike GSC for a similarly-sized example.
>>98336334Looks nice even when he's upside down, anon
>>98337003no, that's not a thing
>>98336294>Only eldarfags are whining about the Exodite models, lolWouldn't necessarily call myself an eldarfag but the only people whining are people who had this weird idea of eldar guardians but with stag horns and ranger rifles in the forests and jungles or some shit, or brown naked chickswith power swords, instead of the easily available canon Exodite stuff like dragon knights, bright stallions or the triceratops with a D-cannon mounted on it.>but they're not wood elves in spaceRight but also wrong, they're Exodites- jungle elves who ride dinosaurs on verdant jurassic worlds and giant robots. Not naked hot chicks using laser bows or whatever dumb idea reddit had.
I’ve been labeled as the tourney player in my LGs
>>98337275>That’s a different thing than what you just told me???>I read that campaign that is a false statement he’s mad somebody else is becoming a god over him?????That's not what he says. He tells Vashtorr that only he gets to hold Abaddon's leash.
>>98335471Its not sinful to spread a superior system. T'au vas lor'ei!
>>98335471Yes its sinful for the Tau to expand. If they were morally good they would remain tiny, powerless and pacifistically allow the Imperium to wipe them out.
>>98337290If people are call you that and you're skill level is "knows how to make a list and play the game"then you have permission to call anyone labelling you that bad at Warhammer.You should also eat their favourite model to assert dominance.
>>98335683Thats how it works now though. You just have auxiliaries detachments can take as much or as little of Tau as you want. A full kroot army using Tau vehicles is 100% doable and even about median strength for warhammer armies.
>>98337290I guess you shouldn't have watched all those videos on 11th edition rules errors, huh?
I am going to paint my new Tau as Farsight Enclave like a special little snowflake and nobody is gonna stop me.
>>98337294>Be Tau>Invade human worlds, stop only because the humans could fight back>Sterilize planets of humans when they have any risk of being too abundant to control easily>Sterilize planets of humans for resettlement anyway sometimes>Give "communication" helmets to Vespid that are really mind-control helmets>Lie to your entire population about magic being fake and daemons being weird aliens>Lie to your entire population about your leader being dead after humans assassinate him>Declare certain races as kill on sight (admittedly orks deserved it)>When your psychic auxillaries accidentally summon daemons, just immediately start torching all non-Tau, and when you can't, send them to get pointlessly killed by enemies to keep everything pure>Kill so many auxillaries this way that even a Kroot army defects to the fucking Imperium for safety and vengeanceThey've still got the moral high ground over the Imperium, but I mean, they're not angels.
>>98337302the enclaves aren't special snowflakes
>>98337124the old ones would never create something like the nids, they go against their philosophies
What colour would you make the Tau'va Enclave if the religious Tau splintered off?I think a turqouise and white would be cool but step on the Votanns toes too much.
>>98337304Don't you have some girl dick to suck off, bohemond
>>98337314Are there even religious Tau? I thought their goddess was kept a secret from normal people.
>>98337311Turns out going crazy in the void with war in heaven changes some niggaa
>>98337304>be TauNo thanks, Tau women are addicted to human men btw it's in the lore too.
>>98337304I dont think the sterilising is a thing anymore the modern stuff specifically says human breeding rates make them great auxillaries for the fire cast because they need the numbers to pad the fifth spheres vast ground to cover and quickly, by comparison to other races, can replace them and that natural cull stops overpopulation.I mean shit thats basically how the imperial guards operated forever.
>>98337302>painting your faction as a subfaction that is prominent in loresame here. I just painted my orks blue (like deathskulls) the other day. I’M GOING INSANE!
Why is this general so obsessed with Tau?
>>98337320Its started spreading. Theres a Shadowsun novel where the Death Guard are attacking a Tau world and she discovers churchs to Tau'va, orders the earth caste demo guys to bring them down but then notices they are keeping nurgles rot at bay and remembers a vision from her youth where she was saved from drowning by Tau'va and she asked "what do you want?" and Tau'va said "i simply want to exist" and it implies she is her herald but has yet to realise it. The book ends and she calls off the demolitions and leaves the churches intact. For the Taus greatest champion thats a hell of a important moment.
>>98337326Tsundere mindset
>>98337326>40k general: argueing about tau>aos general: flesh eater court players meet and greet>tow general: beastmen generalEvery general has that one race that /tg/ is autistic about above all others.
>>98337068>marine is black>DARK is written on the shoulder padwhat did he mean by this
>>98337329I know fuck all tau lore is this true and how long have the tau been changing from being the same shit for 20 years?
>>98337335Why are beastmen so goddam popular in the old world?
>>98337340Imagine if you didn't like the nucron changes and then GW brought oldcrons back. Thats Beastmen in TOW. From the mostly forgotten pity support list to one of the main antagonists and honestly with the chaos gods on the backfoot and withdrawn from the setting at the current point technically by numbers alone they are the main villains right now. Who doesnt love goatmen barbarian hordes?
An Imperial Inquisitor puts a gun to your head and says the following:>Paint this squad of minis in 1 hour to battle ready condition or you die.Could you do it? What even is "battle ready" anyway?
>>98337304>munication" helmets to Vespid that arall of this is orders of magnitude better than what the Imperium offers. The Imperium practices literal torture necromancy instead of having computers.
thoughts on people starting to built bases for their flying shit like the devilfish now gw makes flyers on sculpted smoke rather than a plastic see through disc?
>>98337345Really? Got a link to their lore?
>>98337337Once Phil kelly took over in 6th ED.
>>98337350if its kindergarten battle ready standards like some I've seen... yes absolutely. I just skip cleaning mold lines, drilling barrels, jump straight to priming with fast assembly, then plop down 3 colors of paint on my wet pallet and block out the major parts.
>>98337294>>98337293Colonists are always evil.
>>98337335>>98337340>>98337345>check out wfg to see what’s there>they have their own collage/painting eventcool to see other generals also do community shit. >>98334211
>>98337345why is fantasy asia getting so fucked up by them?
>>98337321>going crazy in the voidThat's not something that can happen to them.
>>98337364The books are in the tow general, arcane journal beastmen brayherds is where to start but TL:DR>Morghur, a corruptive presence of chaos so foul he is something beyond a demon prince and cannot be killed or banished for good and keeps being reborn>When he does its like winter coming in a song of ice and fire and the whole world is sicklier, mutations more rampant and more humans birth beastmen they abandon in the woods in shame -known as gavespawn- until he is killed again>Right now a bray shaman who can see the future, shocker in a setting of medieval warfare thats playing with cheats on- is seeking his newly reborn form and this guy is so fucked himself he turns entire human towns into chaos spawn *with a thought*>Humans in the north are constantly losing towns as beastmen surround them coming out the woods on all sides always knowing where and when to attack under the shaman Kralmaws direction and they dont have any way to stop himBy comparison the actual warriors of chaos right now are just norscan slaver raiders lead by a woman named Frydaal the chainmaker. Tough and dangerous viking types but thats all they are. Kralmaw is specifically the guys domino that started the End Times. GW has confirmed this word for word. The beastmen are that big a deal.
>>98337378Because the fantasy asians thought it would be a good idea to try and kill the ogres at their borders by summoning down wyrdstone meteors.Shame Ogres are immune to chaos for the most part and this just turned all the local wildlife and many peasants into beastmen. Woops.
Anyone got a download for that Aeronautica Imperialis animation? I ain't paying for dat!
Had my first game of 11 yesterday on 1k. Mercenary vs Gladiuswas fun but i feel like my opponent misplayed massively since he exposed ventris and bladeguard to a big brick of Steeljacks and they rolled like gods on Fortify Take over and killed them in 1 activation. My 5 hearthguard with a kahl weren't as killy as i thought they'd be but they swamped down terminators for like 3 rounds till they died so job well done I suppose?
>>98337337Tau seem to have the most fluid lore because every edition codex has a new "tau 4.5th expansion where they found some kinda warp gate in space and decided to explore the other side and then the eldar showed up and said stop doing that and the tau were like ooga booga make me and then the tau annexed a world of mushroom people and the council of ethereals was like maybe we should elect an actual supreme leader instead of using aun'va deepfakes"
>>98337326The tau are gay but an army of Gue'vesa battleline lead by a commander in a battlesuit and tau/IG vehicles would be okay as a representation of humans who are like GSC but not GSC, fuckin alien lovers but they aren;t being actively nommed by tyranids.Kroot are also coolThey should add those psychic bears too
>>98337362wasn't this already a thingYou can buy 'flyer bases' that are like rockets being shot out of your flyer slamming into towers
>>98337378https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Eastern_BeastmenThat map is from like the 5th edition, which was what like 25 years ago? The Nu lore is that the eastern beastmen like Tigermen (who used to be mentioned as basically just bullying fantasy pajeets for fun and food) are now civilized subjects of Cathay who have their own kingdosm and shit and there are also hawkmen and monke men out there.
>>98337385Thanks very much.Downloaded the Arcane Beastman book. Is there any other books I must read?
>>98337345I thought this was a joke map
>>98337465naa old world fantasy is just ghetto earth with atlantis elves
>>98337465Friend this may shock you but the world that had a literal end times apocalypse was fucked. By 40k Standards Malus is basically turbo Caliban.
>>98337477I'm not your friend, buddy
>>98337473Razing of Westerland is the next one i think. They tend to alternate between the north of the empire and cathay and the next book is cathay defending an chaos invasion so the one after will probably be beastmen vs wood elves if the rumors are true and to put that into perspective Morghur is the only creature the wood elf gods fear.
>>98337477>malusdid GW really name the warhammer world planet hammer?
>>98337484I'm not your buddy, guy
>>98337383How do you know that?
>>98337324why would tau need lots of humans? Wouldn't Tau with half the line span of humans mature to a fighting age much faster than Humans? By the time a regular human is ready to fight, most Tau are already half way through their lives. A 60 year old human is older than every living Tau that hasn't been doing some cryosleep stuff.
so, since i can only overwatch with one unit per turn, having multiple flamer units would kind of be a waste right? im building a wraithhost, and so far i have 1 of each build option, and 6 kits total (dual blades, blade and shield, d-scythe, and wraithcannon), and im debating how to build the last 2. would multiple units with d-scythes just be too redundant? i know i want 3 units of blades and 3 units of guard so if for whatever reason the battleline wraith rule goes away in the future or i want to run a different detachment besides spirit conclave i dont get fucked on the rule of 3. but i've also got multiple wraithlords with brightlances and 2 fireprisms, so multiple units of guard with wraith cannons might be overkill on the anti armor no?
>>98337523Because humans are fighting capable for longer, the tau literally put their best warriors on ice between wars because they are only fighting at their maximum potential for 20 years at most. The fifth sphere of expansion is so much vaster that the fire warriors alone are simply not enough numbers wise and not for the years it takes to claim and hold more and more worlds in a large radius.
Are Fire Warriors even a thing on the tabletop anymore? every player at my locals use suits, krooks and pathfinders/breachers.
>>98337371so who is more evil, the Imperium or the Tau?
>>98337554best use of fire warriors was always fish of fury and breachers are better at that now
Thinking about a blend of canyon and greenery for the base scheme for my Farsight Enclave. Think this kind of colouring would world with the bright reds and whites?
>>98335351https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w6bB1McmzMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w6bB1McmzMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w6bB1McmzM
>>98337616isn't this just a video from a week ago but with a chinese voiceover
>>98337571>would canyons work with bright reds and whitesworked for them.
How do we fix them?
>deployment finishes>opponent asks to take a picture of the board>spill my spaghetti>kill him and run out the LGSdoes anyone else do this?
>>98336196Kirby era designs were bad for almost everyone
>>98337621yes, idk why they slapped Bilibili on it and acted like it was new. Game looks sick though
>>98337649bring back the kytan and have a dual gatling variant
>>98337654Why are you eating spaghetti at the LGS?
>>98337654>opponent charges into my unit>moves too close and knocks one of my models over>says "my bad" and puts it back up>notice the model is now 0.05" further back and realize my opponent is trying to cheat>pull the pin on my suicide vest
>>98337649berderkers with jump backsfoot lordberderkers with heavy weaponforge world vehicles in plasticbutcher surgeon
Should I build the Leviathan box mini's?
>>98337649More cultists obviously.
Any anons able to redpill me on knights, both imperial or chaos, to play/play against, build, and paint. I really like big robots and I prefer the heavy mech-like design they have compared to the sleek look of tau and eldar.
>>98337730>play/play againstFucking awful.>build, and paint.Fucking great.
>>98337556Tau.The Imperium is honest
>>98337556The Imperium can't be evil, they are the good guys in this setting.
>>98337385>slaver raiders lead by a womanlollmao even
>>98337730Get one of the regular sized ones as a fun painting project/centerpiece for another army they can ally into.
>>98337730No idea if they are good but my LGS just got 5+ of those limited eye of terror knights boxes so I bought some to start my knight army.
>>98337757shes one of few people actually touched by chaos at this point. Basically chaos has receded from the world and its not the world of WHFB yet where mutation is rampant and shes got massive horns on top of being a brick shit house norscan raider which has those tribes who worship chaos think shes the everchosen. She isnt but shes got the most clear sign of none beastmen/chaos spawn mutation as a boon rather than exposure to taint in the time period.
>>98337814I'd like to expose her to my taint, if you know what I mean.
What are your thoughts on using red and green on models? Someone once said "What is it Christmas time?" on a model I had with red and green and it fucked me up forever.
>>98337730notorious noob trap army, second after custodesfine to build, lots of fun to paint if you're talented, every model can be a detailed art project, especially if you like the vibe of "giant robot with heraldry"wins via stat checks: this means most battles are blow outs determined before the game, rarely fun for you or your opponentimperial knights are average in tournament performance, chaos knights are dogshit, but it's start of the edition things are still being patched
What's the most thematic army to have fight against Eldar? Slaaneshi daemons? Emperor's Children? Orks? Necrons?
Grey Knights 11th edition RefreshThe Grey Knights seek belisarius Cawl for aid in upgrading their secret order and cawl knows about them because reasonsHe adds an extra organ to create primaris grey knights- the psy-glad- implanted in the brain to make psychic powers stronger or some shit.the grey knights have now been reorganized intoPsy-Gravis ArmourBrother terminators but their helmets are now the generic ones instead of the knight ones for some reason (the sculptor in CAD did not know enough about the faction and no one was checking).battleline strike squad has been streamlined into theIncineratus (all armed with incinerators)Psychatus (all have psilencers)And Canonatus (all have psy-cannons)The land raider crusader has also been replaced by the Crusader Repulsor (black templars also get this vehicle) which hovers.Also all the unique bits of the armour like the pauldrons being special or the purity seals are smoothed over and look very generic.All the other squads like purgation are now pointless and are put int he special firstborn Legends ghettoAnd another Dreadknight variant wielding a psy-pike instead of the mace.In addition there are rumours with the activity of Magnus the Red and Prospero, a shadowy figure in the warp with a similar warp signal to Magnus has been sensed by the masters of the Grey Knights. Some whisper it is Janus, the first Grandmaster of the Order, and the lost half of Magnus' soul that did not fall to chaos.... (this is where GW sets the stage to release a new model in 12th edition) the primarch of the Grey Knights.....YOU ARE WELCOME
>>98337937Nigger, its just going to be Gray Knights mysteriously bigger. lol.
>>98337878>red and greenWhat is it, Christmastime?
>>98337878It's a pretty Christmaspilled combo. You can make it work outside that context though. Use one color sparingly, for example GW gives red marines green eye-lenses usually. Make one or both colours darker or desaturated, for example Dark Angels often have red bolters and stuff, but because the green is dark it doesn't read as very Christmasy. Tweak the colors, lime green and maroon will not appear christmas like at all.
>>98337940Only Space Marines believe they need lore explanations for a model refresh.Did Cawl make all the new Cadian infantry upgraded with knee pads after 10k years of secret development too?
>>98337878Some white trim would totally help
So Deathwatch is just 8th Edition's Marine soup?
>like 30% of the 40k stuff at my LGS is leagues>not a single person i know plays votannis the abundance because of some secret votann cabal or is it just the leftover product after people bought stuff they actually want?
>>98337649Roll them and all the god legions back into the CSM codex
Say Cheeeeseee!
>>98337959To this day, Primaras is the fucking gayest thing i have ever seen GW do, in fact its one of the gayest fucking plot points i have seen in all of 40k and most forms of media. >GUYS! What if we made space marines.....but bigger.....
>>98338007Primaris are cool, seethe and cope.
>>98337921You may not like this, but Space Marines. Maybe Chaos ones for similar reasons - Eldar aspect warriors and war machines are incredibly powerful fluff-wise, so going against the best the Imperium has to offer shows how dire of a threat they are, and that the Eldar would only mobilize for full scale battle against this caliber of foe.Part of the Eldar theme is the tragedy of their existence. The scenario could be that they're assaulting an important facility or starship which is carrying some kind of new technological development that will go a long way helping the Imperium to fight off, say Orks or Tyranids. But the Farseers predict that with this new technology allowing them to push back the enemy with much greater effectiveness, the Imperium will turn its attention on the Craftworld(s) and make a concerted effort to hunt them down and wipe them out. The Eldar often see Humanity as an unfortunate, misguided, but necessary participant in the fight against Chaos and the remnants of the War in Heaven. Holding them back from being better at fighting Chaos in order to save Eldar lives is the kind of drama they're all about.
what color for the plasma cannon casing if I want red coils?
>>98338005nonce artist
>>98337994Leftovers. Stores have to order in a mix of everything from GW, and votann's original release and second wave weren't that long ago. Your local is probably carrying most votann kit it ever received.
Man I hope grey knigts have an awesome refresh. There's hardly anything else I want to start an army with in 11th besides them. Just have to hope the custode sculptor stays the fuck away from them, same for whoever made the damn ark angels and blood angels too.
>>98338050they will look cool but be just as shit to paint as they are now. Probably similar to the deathwing knights - great models, awful to paint.
>>98338047Paint them like chrome to fit with your cool blue deal
>>98338047>redhard to do. it'll either look pink or orange
>>98338047>>98338064Forgot example pic
hey anons, working on my second and third saturnine dreadknight kitbashes right now. anyone have thoughts on posing? >for one I'm thinking stepping over some rubble, shooting with out stretched right arm and holding melee weapon in left>no clue on the other
>>98338078while this would look pretty good, nmm chrome is definitely out of my wheelhouse
Why doesn't GW do a Imperialis Sector mat given that most of it's terrain is city-based? Yes I know the old plastic one existed but a mat wouldn't be a bad idea.
Do people play 500-750 point games? I want to dip my toes into Tau, but not sure if I want to commit to 1000 points.
>>98338137the game is increasingly unbalanced below 1.5k. 1k is barely playable. Maybe try a Tau Kill Team instead. KT gameplay isn't like 40k, but you'll find out if you like painting the models and at least have something you can play with them. The KT unit can be used in 40k too if you decide you like the faction.
>>98338050Odds the shitty sculptors all do the Grey Knights refreshEvens the shitty sculptors all do the Dark Eldar refresh
>>98338157I've just wanted a ghostkeel for ages. I played my first game of 11th yesterday and thought ghostkeels, commanders, crisis suits, and stealth suits would be fun.
>>98338112You could try with an actual metallic chrome, there's a couple of them out there.
Does anyone have that page from I think RT where it talks about how the chaos gods might just be aspects of one true chaos god, then it lists the epithets like 'The Unspeakable One, He Who Shall Not Be Named' etc
>>98338112Four parts Vallejo True Silver Light to one part Greyish Blue. Drybrush with just the silver to finish.
>>98338221Any recommendations outside of vallejo chrome?
>tfw just about every ork player is running green tideWhat's the chances of it getting nerfed in the codex?
>>98338088Posing looks good. Question though; what do you do with all the spare parts?
Craftworld Eldar are based and will outlive the Imperium
Does anyone have any scans of the Combat Patrol Companion book?Alternatively, has anyone purchased/read it? What did you think?
>>98338012nta but they are incredibly lame. the only people who think primaris are cool are newfags who dont even know what "primaris" is. They should have just made the new space marines and not said shit, but that wouldnt have made everyone rebuy their models and have a faggot name that was easily trademarkable.
>>98338320who is this post for? eldar fags dont give a shit about lore
>>98338376Myself
Le i XD like ecks dee ORKS :DD XDXD LE LE XD :DDDDD
>>98338386dont all the quins end this story dead?
>>98338386If the Harlequins are really that strong, why haven't they assassinated the Emperor and ended all threats to the Eldar already?
The Victrix Honor Guard doesn’t really fit into any codex guideline when you think about it, and they definitely had to expand their numbers to fill out two detachments of them for both Gulliman and Calgar. I knid of hope where the Honor Guard fits into a chapter is expanded in the Codex.
>>98337532wraithcannons are always prefered over d-scythes unless fighting hordes. I would say magnetize since, but I haven't done that myself despite hearing how supposedly easy it is for wraithguard.
>>98338412Don't they exist in the unregulated chapter command and auxiliary staff section? They're not regular combat troops after all.
>>98338195To have fun below 1k you generally need to restrict high stat units like many Tau Suits. I would also recommend Kill Team if you just wanna dip your toes into a faction. Tau have a Stealth Suit team, and the Nemesis Op rules are an official guideline to adding boss units to teams like a larger suit.
>>98338306depends on the model. I've got a pretty massive collection of bits.
>>98338412Ultramarines haven't been "codex compliant" for a long time. They have loads of feeder chapters helping to replenish their numbers every time they get wiped out, so they're more like DA and Wolves who ignore size limits.
>>98338409If the Custodes are so great why haven't they just beaten chaos already? It's not like they have the "we're just bodyguards" excuse anymore.
>>98338325It's literally worthless.
Do you think Repentia Superior is a prestigious position? Or is it the "you have seniority, but no one likes you" position that no one wants?
>>98338400Yeah but if you add up all the custodains the two or three of them kill its like 60-80 of them,>>98338409Can't assassinate a melted down radioative core, there's no one to kill
>>98338436I imagine from the perspective of a Sister, no one would take pleasure in being one because it means there are Sister’s that have lost their way, but it would be a fulfilling duty to help save their souls.
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>>98338436I get the feeling that it's a situation where they appreciate the job, just not the people who do them. I can imagine a long-serving Repentia Superior talking some shit about being the "thin neurowhip line" and you have to nod along like you aren't laughing inside your helmet or else she'll have a fit and take it out on her charges for fun and when they die they'll go to super-hell instead of having their souls be saved.
We've been over this before and I am tired of saying it. Primaris sucks and will never be canon.
Hey, baby. I millipede 5000 in a way that can't be stram rolled. You always liked it and I do too.
>>98338455no one wants you here, please leave
>PoV: You play Imperial Agents against any armyBUFF THEM
>Custodes are the ultra impossibly elite best of the best of the best, with the best armor, weapons, training, and gene-splicing in the galaxy>M 6", T6, Sv2+, W3, LD6+, InSv4+>Palatines are the lieutenants of Sisters, so like, 28 year-olds who survived a few battles, but are otherwise normal women>M 6", T3, Sv3+, W4, LD6+, InSv4+A Custodes is, like, slightly superior to a Sister lieutenant.
>>98338436Definitely a mixed bag.>The Sister Dogmata is a figure revered and feared in equal measure within her order, as only she has the authority to condemn a Battle Sister to the ranks of the Repentia with but a word.That's not the repentia superior, but something close.
>>98338492Yes as it turns out basing the game around D6s creates some wonky power-scaling, you're very clever for noticing.
>>98338492>T6>T3>slightly betterToughness is the single most important stat in this game. Going T4 from T3 is a huge jump. T6 means power weapons wounds you on a 5+ instead of a 3+ for T3. That is a massive step up.But I have bitten the bait.
>>98338492characters have always been overpowered in 40k tabletop, it's a narrative gameback in the good old days some "normal human" like colonel straken or commissar yarrick could wreck a squad of tactical marines by sheer force of badassery alone
>bladeguard and sternguard can now be bone coloured and be in the deathwing now for dark angelsI know it's old news but this shitty lore sucks more than femstodes.
>>98338526Why do people have such a hate boner for Femstodes, is it literally just because this is the closest GW could come to putting in female marines?
>>98338480they basically got squatted. Its likely in the studio they thought it would be a cute little thing to make detachments for playing the Inquisition or Navy as an army while also selling the rules for all the mish mash models but the backlash to not being supported as a full army was so bad they will likely never get support ever again unless GW feels like actually supporting them. I suspect they wont get touched at all throughout 11th edition and then the 10th codex will be replaced with a faction pack going into 12th.GW really never wanted them to be an army and it was a classic miscommunication between teams, the marketing team treated them like a normal full army which bait and switched a bunch of people.
>>98338268idk about RT but I find that bits in the Realm of Chaos book.
>>98338530yes, the rightoids ran a 24/7 media machine complaining they were adding woke female space marines. most of the 5000+ youtube videos made on the topic couldnt even pronounce basic terms in 40k correctly or not realize custodes werent space marines. its just run off from grifters. some people seethe about literally any black or female model or whatever as you can see ITT but thats different from the specific femstodes seethe.
>>98338532There should just be certain units that are simply allied units for other armies. Agents for Imperial, Harlequins and Corsairs for Eldar and Dark Eldar, Daemons for Chaos, etc.
>>98338526secondary or tertiary?
>>98338530lorewise I think primaris are more shitty than femstodesbut going "oh actually there were noble daughters being turned into custodes the whole time" is blatantly an attempt at "increasing representation" and nothing moreI say this as someone that enjoys the sexy fanart of genderbent marines and primarchsit shouldn't be in the actual game
Where do I look up current winrates and stuffIm not a tierfag just curiousWanna see where necrons are at rn
>>98338530Because femstodes are fucking gay>>98338536Yeah its shifting the 40k culture towards women and thats gayNo girls allowedBlacks too
>>98338510Why is GW's shitty power creep anon's fault?>you're very clever for noticingWhy are you such a faggot & apologist?
>>98338532GW literally said two days ago during the FAQ that agents will be getting content/new detachments in a codex in 11th.>>98338480don't need buffs really, just a couple new units and an actual army rule. >dreadnaught-sized light armor unit>highly elite 3 man unit that can actually punch>inquisition stormtroopers that are better than scions, worse than marines in 5 and 10 squads, battleline and have all three Ordo keywords.>army rule can just be orbital strikes from 3rd>three special shots, once per game each, one usable per battle round. >melta torpedo, lance strike anti-character anti-monster, cluster bombs blast unit sweeper>an inquisitor or rogue trader must have line-of-sight of the target to activate itthere faction is now 47% WR
>>98338534Yeah my bad got confused where it was from, thats exactly the page I wanted thank you!
>Play vs lgs fren>He gets visibly upset as he fails saves and misses kills>Feel bad
Do loyalists ever use chainaxes?
>>98338409because cegoragh needs the emperor alive so he can play an epic prank on slaanesh
>>98338591>GW literally said two days ago during the FAQ that agents will be getting content/new detachments in a codex in 11th.I hope they get rules for 1DP detachments that can pair with a 2DP one from the core army. Like a 2DP sister detachment and a 1DP Inquisition one.
>>98336362WHat models did you use for this?
>>98338624yes
>>98337077It seems GW is trying to appeal 40k to the Chinese after Cathay.The signs are already here.A buyout even.Would the average Chinese entertainment media company run the warhammers better than GW?Maybe GW being Chinese owned would mean a lot of warhammer recasters getting shut down in China I’m not sure if prices being lowered will happen. Don’t know how the lore will be handled.Remember the warhammer 40k Lost Crusade mobile game? They wanted to appeal to Chinese as most mobile games do.Very little skulls were in the cinematic. What few could be seen if any seemed like they “had” to be there but kept to a minimum in appearing.
>>98337304>>Sterilize planets of humansThis doesn't happen.
>>98337077America is not as reliable anymore, so they're going big on china.Most money grubbing big companies have been doing this for a decade, GW is just really late to the party.It's hilarious; GW made cathay to appeal to chinese customers, but asian people actually like european stuff in their fiction, so this just shows how racist and boomer tier GW higher-ups are.>>98338664This>lost crusadeThis 100%: if you look at the marine & SoB in the trailer they looks surprisingly asian.
>>98338648nta but at a glance>BSF traitor guard>KT traitor guard>3rd party heads
>>98338677danke very mucho
>>98338624yah
going up north for some beach camping next week with some mates and they're wanting to do some minigames, any suggestions on what we could do to make some fun gladiator matches using thew crucible character rules?
>>98337077>>98338664>>98338670What are you lot even going on about? What's in Chinese? First post didn't link anything
Did they finally fix the gsc army rule? Are we back, mining bros?
>>98338687Is that you ratfag? I assumed you had zero friends given you are always posting in these threads
>le win rate in competitive play is too low for me so as a casual player I won't play them this edition ecks deeToo many people have suffered compfag brainrot in this hobby, its sad to see
>>98338689I think they're talking about the new 40k total war gameplay trailer that was posted on chinese social media and not on english ones, just the same gamplewith with english subtitles.OR its bots to inflate the users on the site
>>98338689New Total War 40k showcase on BiliBili (chinese social media)>>98338694>sufferedThey do it to themselves and take pride in their brain damage & combofaggotry
>>98336751I don't want to rebase 120 slotta termagants from 25mm to 28mm bases
>>98338692You have to have friends to enjoy 40k.
>>98338703Just use some of those extender-rings, or 28mm movement trays
>>98336792>Am I to assume it's near impossible since it hasn't been done for the past eight editions?That's a dangerous assumption. Lots of stuff have been discovered after someone finally tried it following decades or even centuries of people claiming>if it could be done people would have done it alreadyNever forget people in charge are often incomptent, narrow-minded and slaves to their own preconceptions & habits.
>Daemon codex is released>But with no monogod daemons, as they are in their respective cult legions>Instead its all daemons of minor and lesser chaos gods and powerful independent daemons>Massively diverse range of play and fun mechanics and cool models>Malal returns because GW stopped carrying about the copyright thing as they already bought back the arbites who were shelved in the same case for looking just like judge dredd and no legal issues came from thatWould people and /tg/ like this codex?
>>98338715I don't care about malal, but if you explore daemons further than the big 4, I would be really interested.GW will never do it because they simply do not have the talent or freedom anymore, they are IP milking now and that's how it's gonna be till the end.
>>98338720>GW wants to make generic daemons for HH to represent the ignorance of daemons in that time frame>Makes the single most generc looking 'big smashy' demons possibleI don't know if those models are genius or a sigh of creative bankruptcy
>>98338715it won't happen, major god designs are easier to defend copyright on compared to "various demons", which is why they keep leaning into them.
>>98338670I think East Asians that are big on European inspired fantasy stuff have similar dna to weebs in that they like foreign (to them) media as it is something different from the usual stuff. I can’t prove it as it is just speculation.Also Lost Crusade shut down. >they looks surprisingly AsianThey’re actually trying to appeal to autist offsprings of wmaf couples like me. Or they just looked at final fantasy character faces and mimicked those.I think GW is trying hard on appealing heavily to try and get mass appeal of warhammer 40k into China to get Chinese money. I think warhammer 40k is significantly growing in Japan and South Korea. I’m not sure about Taiwan.I do wonder if Chinese or East Asian nerds in general roll their eyes at the obvious China pandering western companies have done. I might ask a relative about it if I get the chance and remember to.
>>98338727I mean legally speaking having copyright on major gods design, names and daemon forms and names would be indentical to lesser gods.>This is Mallacolox the god of skinning and these are the forms and names of his lesser daemonsLegally its no different to adding new units or whole new factions
>>98338730>I think East Asians that are big on European inspired fantasy stuff have similar dna to weebs in that they like foreign (to them) media as it is something different from the usual stuff.I think this is partly why Fromsoftware stuff really took off in Japan and the western gaming world (are they popular in china and korea? No idea myself). They fuse european and asian stuff in really interesting ways so it feels foreign to everyone. GW should go in that direction more than 'careful respectful fantasy society heavily based on a specific time period
Someone said pics were leaked showing new Nobz, does anyone have them to share?
>>98338731It is all about making copyright defendable designs to win in courtrooms to stomp third party aftermarket stuff.It happened to steel legion, and the new cadians I think because they both deviate a bit from historical or pop culture stuff in space design wise it might be why Catachan hasn’t gotten their refresh yet because gw can’t figure out how to make an easily trademark defendable Vietnam USA army but in 40k design. Same for Valhallans and vostroyans aside from Easter egg models or black library models.Plastic Krieg may legitimately be the exception to this.
>>98338731GW expects it will have to defend its designs in court. Yes legally it's all theirs, but they want to squash third parties who make something close and that requires distinct designs they can point to being unique and different from every other demon that already exists.
>>98338739>I think because they both deviate a bit from historical or pop culture stuff in space design wise it might be why Catachan hasn’t gotten their refresh yet because gw can’t figure out how to make an easily trademark defendable Vietnam USA army Hmmm fair point anon. Perhaps catachans will get redesigned as being both the american action hero ideal and the Veitnam communists. Rambo wearing an asian concial hat, north vietnam uniforms on the officers, a fair amount of asian head models etc
>>98338730>I think East Asians that are big on European inspired fantasy stuff have similar dna to weebs in that they like foreign (to them) media as it is something different from the usual stuff.Westaboos are a thing indeed. When we think of Westaboos it's mostly Westerns, but it's the same "DNA" to borrow your words: people who get fascinated with something, in this case foreign.A tad off-topic but that's why it's insane how many people simultaneously hate, don't know and don't actually understand their own history and culture, while people in different countries have no problem taking an honest look at it.I guess we just have a huge mass of people who only know what the TV/social media/likeminded people have shown them, while rejecting everything else.I'll call them "Nothing-people".>Have nothing>Know nothing>Be nothing
>>98338602What do you realistically do in this situation? Maybe not specifically when the rolls go super bad for your opponent, but I am certain it has happened to everyone where they do a little too well and your opponent is clearly upset.Do you grief a little and get your own units killed/choose poor targets? Have a conversation of "You don't seem you are having fun, what to start over/stop here?" Something else?
>>98338733>GW should go in that direction more than 'careful respectful fantasy society heavily based on a specific time periodThey should, but they won't. You know why.>>98338736The pics are shit, it's a codex page taken at a 80° angle, you can make out that they're different nobz but you can't really see what they look like. Check Fatrak
>>98338602Its a bit rough out there for us at the moment.
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>>98338753I don't know what Fatrak is, the search results were worthless
>>98338768Valrak. Lurk more newfag
>>98338409how the fuck would that help Eldar exactly
>>98338715>GW stopped caring about the copyright thing as they already bought back the arbitesAnd they clearly changed the design of arbites to be much more distinct from Judge Dredd.Also GW blatantly does NOT own Malal. That character is owned by the guys who created the 2000 AD comics, GW just hired them to make some stuff, but never realized to stipulate in their contracts that GW would own all the characters, etc.It's literally illegal for GW to use Malal for they don't own him.This is the reason why Malice exists, and he's still canon.
>>98338602>>98338752Suck his cock
>>98335975GW only releases lore on products it currently sells. If they don't make models with squig cage arms or pogo legs, they won't include it in the current product advert brochures, sorry, codexes.
>>98338668It is explicitly the case in DoW 1.
>>98338715Yes give it here, NOW
