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>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
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>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
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>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
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>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
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>Gay Bolas
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>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
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>Proxy Guide
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>Precons
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>tq
Which Universes Within set of 2027 has piqued your interest the most?
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I did the most timmy shit of my life today.
Hoes still mad that 25 fucking mana investment went big.

>>98365729
TQ: Kamigawa probably.
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>>98365729
The return to Ahmonket set
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>>98365745
I don't get it.
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>>98365729
>TQ
Nauctis. I love me some big ol fish
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>>98365745
Yes. I would say its quite timmy to do a combo, and boast that doesn't even work they way you think it does.
Cascade is on CAST, not ETB. 5 10/10s will probably still hurt, but still, yikes my dude.
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>>98365729
>TQ
Kamigawa and Under Da Sea both look to have a high likelyhood of having cards that I want
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>>98365735
I'm hoping to see some nubian kweens with big bundas in leopard skin-kinis fighting werelions on the savannah.

But let's be real, this is Hasbro we're talking about. Zhalfir will be "We have Wakanda at home" tier with hyper advanced magic cities where every black dude is dating a white woman and the only kweens will be 300+ pounds or bald.
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>>98365786
I would also like to see big brown booba but I hope to see mirrodin refugees and some interesting stuff that way
Hopefully not just magical wakanda with the 5 suns it kept after the swap
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Wierd TQ.
Anyways, my favorite in-universe set in 2027 so far is Zhalfir just because it's pre-established and I don't like the futuretech of kamigawa. As long as everyone isn't a black. If spoilers come out and everyone is black (something that's not allowed for whites: see Kaldhiem), then it will be Nauctis.
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>>98365729
I’m unironically curious about Zhalfir.
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>>98365745
What's the commander? Cause you must have had that on the board aswell. Is it one of those 2 mana ramp girls?
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>TQ
Honestly all three i can fuck with decent, though i think I'm most curious on what they'll do with spirit realm in Zhalfir and what sort of things humans will have for our adventures under the sea
That said I don't know how racist it is to hope for a cool spear to chuck at people from the Zhalfr set
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>TQ
Zhalfir because we might get some pretty decent spirits that I actually care about
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depends on the tone of kamigawa, I want to see if it has potential to be muv luv kino and not just a pacific rim hype moments reel
nauctis is probably the most interesting one though
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>>98365729
As an ex-marine, I'm HYPED for everything wrong they'll do in Nauctis
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>>98365729
>TQ
FISH FISH FISH FISH FISH
><> <>< ><> <><
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>TQ
I accidentally predicted it, so obviously Kaijugawa.
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>Be told I'm a fun ruining rules lawyer because I told the landfallfag that you need to pick the mana lotus cobra adds, when its added, nott just be any color until you want to use it.
>This is the same player that both thinks realmwalker is a flash enabler and who tries to tap his fetches for mana because he doesn't want to shuffle his deck until end of turn.
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>>98366068
kick him from the pod, like the good manchild you all who play cummander are. me included
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My Pirate deck is going to be eating good, bros.
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Yes, I LOVE mail day! How could you tell?
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>>98366022
Someone's a misery porn aficionado eh
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what year did commander become too pushed? I know most people say when the commander decks were made, but I think it's more around 2015-16 where they designed bullshit that was meant to push the power level.
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>>98364259
Where is Eron?
Is he safe? Is he alright?
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>>98366068
there is only so much hand waving I will do, and only for credible players
Is he a credible player? No? Tough luck.
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>>98365729
>Which Universes Within set of 2027 has piqued your interest the most?
I guess the water one. I don't care much about UW sets
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>>98366173
He wasn't gay enough, sorry
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>>98366130
>Snow
Fucking love snow lands. What you building?
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>>98365745
Orthion looks like a fun commander to build, I might give him a go
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>8 cards with Rulebreaker
Guess the other 7.
Greens gonna be the otter except for creature spells and it gives +1/+1 counters
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>>98366334
So what does this ancient text actually mean in English?
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>>98366334
RURU-BREAKAH
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>>98366334
I'm guessing they'll play it relatively safe.

Eminence was an okay mechanic that died because of Edgar Markov and the Ur-Dragon were in the first wave, making players blame the mechanic. If WotC was smart they'd try to avoid making the same mistake.
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>>98366360
>if the instant/sorcery is at least BLUE you can play it
So hypothetically you can play every Blue charm, etc. As long as it's at least got a Blue pip
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>>98366378
>reading comprehension
I ammend myself, it says UP TO 1 other color. So all 2 color blue instant and sorceries are on the table aka UW UR UB and UG
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>>98366378
I don't think Obscura Charm in your example would work, and Izzet/Simic charm couldn't be in the same deck.
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>>98366394
>>98366378
you can only pick one color per deck
imagine a monocolor partner. but without the second commander.
and also you can run all five basics for sunburst/converge
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>>98366334
I feel like they'll all be underwhelming except for one which will be $300+
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>>98366334
Waiting to see the creature rulebreaker, that will surely be cancer as it will probably give your creature keyword souo
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>>98366394
>>98366400
The fact that it says up to 1 color thats not your commanders color AND that it does not say 'choose a color' reads to me its any 2 color blue combo. Plus why would you be able to do a wubrg color base even though its a '2 color deck' with it saying you can still choose any basic lands.
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>>98366425
sunburst/converge
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>>98366425
>reads to me its any 2 color blue combo
Because that's what it is.
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>>98366407
Yeah, I can see your reading. Initially I thought you were wrong but now I'm 50/50 on it. Unfortunate that they worded it in such an ambiguous way.
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>>98366334
>ban most of the banlist
>bring back the old tuck rule
>bring back the old legendary rule
>ban UB by default
>ban Rulebreaker cards

There. I fixed the format.
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>new card comes out
>illiterate retards emerge
Everytime
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>>98366432
yeah I agree it's annoying. would it have killed them to explain for twenty seconds? guess we'll find out later.
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>>98366425
>says up to 1 color
No it fucking doesnt
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>>98366430
>>98366407
Riddle me this ESL's where does this say 'choose' a color? It doesnt.
I see nowhere where you declare this color.
In a game of perfect hidden information couldnt just bluff your opps of what 'color' your deck is even. It'd be a nightmare to hold them to that at any comp setting without open decklists.
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>>98366477
We are literally saying the same thing you are saying dumbass.
You can have a simic instant and an Dimir sorcery in the same deck.
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>>98366477
Esl spotted.

If it worked the way you clowns think it did, it would say "an" additional color not "ONE". I realize the difference between an/one is too nuanced for you to understand
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what are we, some kind of rulebreaker?
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>>98366223
They are going in Ultron, found a shop selling a quite a few of them so decided to send it.
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>>98365729
>TQ
Probably the water one, that's at least kinda neat. Nu-Kamigawa and Ikoria are my two most despised modern planes so I'm not particularly interested and Zhalfir looks like it's just going to be Wakanda with the serial numbers filed off. Very meh year for in-universe stuff.
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>>98366374
Ur-Dragon isn't even good. It's just a Timmy magnet.
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>Not returning to ixalan
Bye fags.
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>>98366534
The Ur-Dragon was excellent for its day, but day was 9 years ago. Tiamat has far surpassed it as a 5C Dragon commander. Still, it's not like The Ur-Dragon is bad either, free value is free value.
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>>98366552
There was not a single point in history your statement was true.
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>>98366563
Scion of the shitheap was never good, actually. The best dragons function on enter triggers, which he can't actually use.
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>>98366334
>rulebreaker: you may run any non-legendary creature as a partner to this creature
I don't care how stupidly broken it is I have been wanting to run pic rel in the command zone since it was first printed.
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>>98366571
True! Tutor in the command zone that draws 7 with hexproof and can instakill players isn't good.
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>>98366591
>just have infinite mana and you win, ez
wow anon you solved Magic
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>>98366485
Okay cool reading is really hard
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>>98366571
>Dragons
>etb
You could just say you don't play the game given that every dragon etb that mattered came out after 2022
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>>98366607
Yes anon, you see, the year is currently 2026. And now some of the strongest cards that have ever existed are in play. I must suppose you were only recently unfrozen.
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>>98366604
>Make these fatties overcosted by {2} only overcosted by {1}
>Or could tutor any of them to play for {2}
>Hmm I wonder which one is stronger...
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>everything is diverse!
>except these diversity planes, which are mono ethnic because representation is important

The worst part is that zhalfir block wouldn’t even be bad, but its the communist schlock
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>>98366613
Unfortunately for your narrative Tiamat released in 2021 so even if dragons were a tribe known for good etbs (lol) by your own metric Tiamat predates the best etbs.
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UR
JIMOTHY
otter mutant
Cards in command zones are face down
Tokens cant be.
Scam artist 2 (whenever a spell is cast, if the amount of mana spent to cast it is 2 less than its mv, gain control if it and select new targets.
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>>98366624
Dominaria isn't mono ethnic though
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Tymna+Kraum or Tymna+Thrasios is unironically a better pair for 90% of decks than whatever commander they're running is.
As it turns out free card draw in the command zone with almost no commitment and access to 4 colors is a lot stronger than most synergies.
Casuals don't realize Golos never left us.
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>>98366618
You don't "play" them with Scion, sweetie. Getting to copy one at a time is not playing them. No ETBs is definitively not playing them.
>>98366627
I genuinely don't know what point you're trying to make with this post. Is it some kind of smug "gotcha" that there was a period between 2021 and Bloomburrow that dragons weren't spicy enough for you to win the game?
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>>98366669
I've been saying this for a while where Wandering Minstrel is stronger than most commanders solely because he's 5 colors and has an effect that undoes the only drawback 5c has (lands enter tapped more often).
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>>98366678
Name 3 dragons with an etb stronger than Ancient Silver Dragon or Old Gnawbone damage trigger.
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>>98366669
Like.. yeah? Tymna+Thrasios is the definition of bracket 5 tryharding? When has that ever not been true?
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Teysa looks like a hooker
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>>98366689
Dragonhawk, Fate's Tempest
Niv-Mizzet Reborn
Ureni of the Unwritten
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>>98366740
lol
lmao even
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>>98366747
not an argument
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>>98366754
There's nothing to argue about. You didn't even answer the question.
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>>98366761
Still not an argument. I can be smugger than you.
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>>98366740
>Timmy sees a card that draws 10 and makes 15 treasures then thinks "Yeah but what if I impulse drew 2 cards?"
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>>98366786
More like "what if I won the game" lmao
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>>98366792
It's okay Timmy. We all knew this the moment you said Ur-Dragon was OP.
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>>98366795
>anon gets to magically summon 15 damage to one enemy for no reason but I don't get to magically summon a few 4/4s (the basic P/T of most dragons)
uh huh, real good faith here
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>>98366800
Yeah it helps when the commander tutors it in.
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>>98366805
>yeah just sacrifice 30 life in a 4 player format
genius...
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>>98366828
>Paying life matters
I don't deal in such trivial things. Sorry Timmy, you're out. Better luck next game.
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>>98366828
>Retard lets himself have lethal on board to make Dragonhawk look even remotely playable but paying 12 life is too extreme
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>>98366828
>Just sacrifice life
Yes, it's not a big cost when it's being converted into a real resourcce.
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>>98366847
Alright, enjoy third place.
>>98366856
Yeah anon that 10 power commander will surely solve every problem you have. Except commander damage is 21, so you have to pay 34, actually.
Meanwhile, Dragonhawk is more just a pile of free damage to all opponents. Very playable, in fact.
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>>98366873
It really isn't anon. Think about the math behind "a few 4/4s" and consider how much damage just attacking with them does compared to Dragonhawk etb (which also triggers on attack btw so Scion of the Ur-Dragon can use it anyway). Yes, I would value 15 treasures for 12 life much higher than burn damage if I already have a full board.
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>>98366894
Anon, five 4/4s, the price for 12 damage on all your opponents (as Dragonhawk sees itself), isn't even enough to kill someone in Commander. Players have 40 life! But meanwhile, 36 damage for 5 mana is often regarded as a good rate, see? I understand math is hard.
>Yes, I would value 15 treasures
Why is having 15 damage in any way more outrageous a supposition than having 20 potential (not even actually gone through, just potential) damage? Do you realize how obnoxiously bad-faith your stance is yet?
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>>98366908 (me)
>in any way more outrageous
Ugh, less outrageous. Meant less, obviously, sentence makes no sense otherwise. Whatever, I am too tired to type correctly, I'm going to bed.
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>>98366908
Because the commander makes the 15 damage himself as long as you have 4 mana, which you will have, because the commander itself costs 5 mana. He effectively lets you exchange 2 life for a treasure an unlimited number of times, or if you don't need mana, draw 10+ cards. Scion was able to see cEDH play for years and still sees fringe play today while Ur-Dragon never accomplished anything outside making Timmies shit their pants that the fifth fatty hit the field because they ran no removal. Even if you want to go the "I want to play lots of dragons" route, Scion can tutor as many dragons as you want to GY to set up Patriarch's Bidding or Living Death for a lethal play, which is, again, much faster than praying you have Dragonhawk + established board for 12 damage.
So yes, I value winning the game at 5 mana a little more than 12 damage for 5 mana.
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>>98366913
The raped male leaves
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>>98366571
>5color
>bins reanimated targets while being able to copy attack triggers
This is good bait.
Scion is only oneupped by current meta being combo into forcing draw or infinite loop
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I like it.
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>>98366805
Underrated card. Basically a red Hatred on a dragon.
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>>98366805
did they forget to give it infect
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>>98367011
Well that's an auto include for tasha
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Anons, which deck should I build? My first deck was a Saruman spellslinger, and now I want something more creature focused...
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>>98366334
Okay so what does the wording on this mean? Can I run any number of instants and sorceries in the other 5 colors as long as they're also blue or am I choosing a color during deck building and allowed to include any instants and sorceries of that color?
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>>98367053
Dinosaur stompy.
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>>98367030
No?
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>>98367060
we can't seem to agree what it means.
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>>98367053
Stick with LOTR and build Eowyn human tribal.
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>>98367065
Curses I was hoping there was an official statement I missed, oh well ty anyways anon
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>>98367060
I'm leaning towards the former but the latter seems possible, too.
We don't know what Wizards means by it and we have to wait for them to explain it futher.
It will likely be moot as it will probably be day-1 banned.
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>>98367060
If it were choose one color, then it would say it, but more inclined to believe you can run any other U-X color spell, but you can't run spells that are UXY
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>>98367060
Probably the second option. Why else would it let you run any basic lands otherwise?
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>>98367075
>It will likely be moot as it will probably be day-1 banned.
... If there was still a commander committee calling the shots.
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>>98366572
In PDH (Pauper EDH) you can, since in PDH your commander is just any uncommon of your choice (even if it's not legendary).
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>>98367075
>It will be day 1 banned
lmao he thinks this shitty format bans cards anymore.
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>>98367109
>oh yeah we might allow hybrid mana
>actually we won't
>we have something even worse coming down the pipeline
I hate WotC so much.
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>>98367112
Yeah you'll have to play against a scary izzet deck with Stormchaser's Talent. Big whoop.
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>>98367069
>story says she's blonde
>but we want to make her a jogger
>so now she's a blonde jogger
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>Yeah we're going back to Kamigawa!
>Completely butcher the plane by making it a cyberpunk world
>Now returning there and its muh kaiju set instead because ITS A CROSSOVER WITH TWOOOO PLANES
So not only did fans of the original Kamigawa get fucked by the return being completely different
NOT ONLY did fans of the return get fucked because the return to the cyberpunk world they liked is now muh kaiju battles
BUT ALSO fans of Ikoria are getting tripple decker fucked because the """return""" to their plane is just an excuse to have kaiju fights in Kamigawa and has nothing the original plane had that fans of it would like
>its a war
what is the point why would ikoria do that, ikoria isnt even a unified plane where everyone agrees
why kamigawa invaded specifically
omfg they made wakanda the set
we also for some reason DONT KNOW the universes beyond sets for next year for no reason
fucking shit
The water world was the only cool thing
Especially because reality fraction is such a weak attempt at the concept
>oh here is time spiral two but a good amount of the cards are their normal versions, its tied into the shit story, and also its partly a set specifically for Strixhaven themed time spiral esque shit despite strixhaven just recently getting a set and it being mtgs boring harry potter equivalent
dogshit
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>>98367075
If it's the "you can any spells dual color spells as long as they're blue" option you're disencentivized to go super hard on 5 color because you can only run basics effectively. If it's the "pick a second color and you can run mono colors of that card type" it's also not a huge deal also you can still only run basics
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>>98367169
In an effort to get through Marvel all 3 sets next year are Marvel
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Mucho texto
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>>98367157
Blone jogger's hot though.
I stop being racist whenever I am horny.
So the goal for WotC i simple. To stop racism, they need to keep releasing hot choccy mommies.
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>>98367175
>also you can still only run basics
Ahem
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>>98367175
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What makes that commander so OP over simply running a 5 color commander?
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>>98367175
See gate
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>>98367175
Fowest
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>>98367232
I dunno boss maybe the fact that it's also a Monastery Mentor in the command zone
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>>98367175
Best in slot land coming through
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Love this art.
At first one might think it's a big monster about to chomp down on a human in a suit, but then you realize that's fucking Zilortha and therefore that ain't a human, that's a several stories high mech.
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>>98367232
Nothing. At all. It's just pearl-clutching by retards that think color identity is still doing anything for the format other than slamming extra colors onto legendaries while making cards like Vivi and Magda even more overtuned because they need to compensate for having shit color identity.
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>>98367175
You can also run a bunch of fetches, so basics isn't actually a limit in any way.
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>>98367175
Acshually
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>>98367257
Never heard of that one before.
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>>98367232
Nothing, its mid.
People are just excited vecause no one knows what the correct interpretation of its text is
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>>98367268
right but that nigga has no black or green
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>>98367169
>fans of Ikoria
lol
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>guy is new to the game
>sits down with "bracket 4 sephiroth"
>game plan is to always direct his 1 ping at a single player til he's dead, then do it for the next guy
>decides I'm the first guy
>have almost no board development
>there is another player hitting him for 15-20 damage a turn with a damage doubler
>still keeps ticking me down
>gets me to 13
>other guy he ignored untaps and effortlessly kills him
>then effortlessly kills me at low life and the other player doing fuck-all
ok
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>>98366433
This + classic 6th ED rules and Wishes that work (with your whole collection).
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>>98367286
Sephiroth player is bad at Magic: the Gathering more news at 11.
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I want to make a zen garden deck that isnt shrines. There are no rock creatures, far as I can tell. Suggestions?
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>>98367286
He should play a better commander
> more colors
> draws cards for doing things
> not ub
> husband material
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>>98367169
wow.
I cannot believe that when they go back to a plane, sometimes, it's different.
wow
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>>98367222
checked and bodied that freak.
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>>98367169
Fan of Ikoria here.
There ain't much to do on the plane itself.
Ikorian monsters invading other planes is perfect.
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>>98367169
>fans of the original Kamigawa
These don't really exist btw
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>>98367075
Why would they ever ban this? Are you high?
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>>98366805
I really like this fucker. Have the foil on a special binder
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>>98367169
Further proof UW fags cannot be pleased by more mtg original sets. They will always always find something to obsesses over to make themselves unhappy. Like an OCD sufferer with hypochondria.
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>>98367272
Yes I'm sure there's lot of players pining for dimir prowess.
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>>98367355
90% of UW fans are LARPers that only know this game exists through UB. They're just trying to fit in.
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>>98367355
>>98367382
You probably unironically enjoy Ninja Turtles and Star Trek
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>>98367407
LARP
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>>98366504
Hell yeah. Thought that Ultron had some cool potential. Good luck anon. Here's hoping he performs well for you.
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>>98367407
Trek already looking infinitely better than Zhalfir
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>>98367265
This card is an all-star in my Darien deck.
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>>98366535
I was hoping we would have. Or at least any cool plane next year.
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>>98367407
>You probably unironically enjoy Ninja Turtles and Star Trek
set phasers to fun
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>>98367407
And?
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I don't mind UB but fuck capeslop
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>>98367169
>>Completely butcher the plane by making it a cyberpunk world
What was there to butcher exactly? Kamigawa sucked and was a laughing stock of a block until kids who grew up with it started defending it because it's cool to like old stuff. The cards were garbage literally by design. The whole block is a standard Place: Japan setting. Making it future Japan isn't even a big departure it's still just Japan. Stupid reactionary nigga.
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>>98367339
I like original Kamigawa
no, I didn't play mtg when it was released but I still count :)
lots and lots of cool cards in that block.
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>>98367436
nta but you couldn't be more wrong, negro.
OG Kamigawa was based on japanese folklore (not japanese history like P3K was with China).
Making it "cyberpunk" kills this vibe. Also, you gay

>boo hoo cards were trash
They were FUN to play. Do a cube with the block and test with yourself (because your lack of playgroup is visible). Nu-kamigawa isnt fun, isn't original, isn't good, isn't real Kamigawa. kys
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>>98367450
Congrats you are more honest than 99% of Kamigawa fans.
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>>98367434
Id definitely onions out for a TADC secret lair.
Caine as Space Beleren or something for maximum trolling
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>legally distinct Star Wars: The set
>legally distinct Harry Potter: The set
>legally distinct Pacific Rim: The Set
>legally distinct Wakunda: The set
Holy fucking shit, this game is creatively bankrupt.
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>>98367464
Caine needs to be a unique card that deals with the adventure mechanic.
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>>98367459
forgot the image
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>>98367465
>legally distinct Greece
>legally distinct Prague
>legally distinct Japan
>legally distinct Southeast Asia
>legally distinct Spanish invading the new world.
Always been creatively bankrupt
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>>98367473
ah yes... sovlshift...
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>>98367436
Basic fantasy feudal Japan shinto world is infinitely more cool than any new plane they've introduced in the last decade and WotC's attempt to make it "cyberpunk" is surface-deep and an insult to cyberpunk as a genre. It's the world building equivalent of digging up a corpse and draping some lights on it, then puppeteering it around like it's new and improved. The player base at large gave it a pass because the set was pushed as fuck (which has had horrible implications for the games fluff ever since).
Not that you'll understand any of that, being a soulless golem.
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>>98367487
>an insult to cyberpunk as a genre
Anon this is the most embarrassing string of words I think I've ever read and there are unironic, real life basedjacks in this thread right now
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>>98367468
You are so right king.

Tap to add U.

Its adventure time! - When he enters, he tutors an adventure.

Welcome Back! - Whenever you cast a spell that previously was exiled on an adventure, untap Caine and draw a card.
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>>98367459
Funny you mention cube because that's damn near the ONLY place Kawigawa's shit even works because so much of it's mechanics are parasitic trash that only works with itself (see: arcane and soulshift.) It is so fucking performative to like this set it isn't even funny. You can't use most of these cards anywhere that isn't in exactly the place you're describing. No, it weren't fun to play with cards from this set because you would lose and losing isn't fun.
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>>98367450
Fair enough, I'm fine with both OG and nu Kamigawa (only really because of robots for the latter though)
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>>98367355
id rather live in a world with no UB but if the option is to live in a world with no ub and 6-7 of these quality of planes and sets a year with no mechanic innovation, awful execution, awful story, and usually uninspired artwork ill take 3-4 of those sets being replaced by something I may like and that may have attractive artwork
The water world is cool and I like what they showed
They fucked over both new-kamigawa and ikoria so they could make ANOTHER hat set
and they made a literal fucking wakanda set dude
If it wasnt for the UB sets which for some reason they wont reveal then Id be uninterested in mtg sets aside from singles starting in fucking february
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>>98365755
God I wish there was a way to do a sea monster deck that didn't result in people assuming I'm running some degenerate no fun allowed deck.
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>>98367515
>You can't use most of these cards anywhere
yes, and?
>>98367515
>No, it weren't fun to play with cards from this set because you would lose and losing isn't fun.
I was gonna say you're a tryhard faggot, glad you did it yourself.

Jokes aside, learn to enjoy the flavor of sets. A "good set" isn't one with OP cards. A good set is one wich is fun to play. And if you think "only ~le win is fun, then you must switch to poker, bets or >only< competitive MTG

tl;dr I did your mom this morning
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>>98367487
>Basic fantasy feudal Japan shinto world is infinitely more cool than any new plane they've introduced in the last decade
Fucking weebs.
/a/ is that way. --->
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>>98365786
>I'm hoping to see some nubian kweens with big bundas in leopard skin-kinis fighting werelions on the savannah.

If they look anything like the devs in the trailer, we're doomed
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>>98367473
>>98367515
>>98367549
Wow, these designs suck. I can't even tell what anime or video game they're supposed to be referencing. I wish they were mechs or something instead.
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>>98366068
>because he doesn't want to shuffle his deck
Then stop playing fetches ffs. You just KNOW this faggot netdecks.
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>>98367585
>replying yourself in a mongol imageboard

oh my days...
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>>98367579
Which the will. Leftists find aesthetically appealing forms to be actual violence.
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>>98367579
it's cool to be kind
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>>98367464
>TADC lair
It will happen and the seething will be good.
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>>98367549
>A "good set" isn't one with OP cards. A good set is one wich is fun to play.
ok maro, keep the F.I.R.E. burning
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>>98367594
I'll kindly spray my seed over her to cool her off.
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>>98367547
Most of the functional sea monster commanders do not read as no fun allowed decks. Even the ones kind of off the beaten path don't read that way. Which commander are you referring to?
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>>98367612
NTA but
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>>98367271
People certainly well know what that card does, retards are just gonna retard.
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>>98367612
The problem is more that a handful of assholes have made literally anything blue or simic kill on sight with their this is technically a low bracket deck bullshit.
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How many turns are you expected to play in Bracket 3? Is turn 6-7 infinite too fast?
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>>98367636
It's cringe but within parameters
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>>98367563
Does being a f/a/tg/u/y even mean anything to you people anymore?
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>>98367608
nice
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>>98367547
>God I wish there was a way to do (any deck) that didn't result in people assuming I'm (doing thing they no like)
ftfy
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>>98367644
Aight, I'll tell my buddy to maybe tone it down a bit so it's not cringe

He brought in an ostensibly B3 Hulk and popped off with infinite combats after telegraphic the intent a turn before (I'll end the game if no one removes commander)

I tried but he Interventioned it and the other two players didn't have their kills drawn so he just ran us over with infinite damage infinite combats

I'm just a bit bummed since I didnt even get a full cycle of swinging around the board and only got to cast like three things lul
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>>98367636
Turn 10 in bracket 3
15-20 in 2.
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>>98367636
>playing infinites at all
Also if your games end before turn 10, ideally turn 20 then you arent playing commander how its supposed to be and you should probably try a 1v1 format
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>>98367672
Yep it's boring slop but bracket 3.
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>>98367636
Turn 7 sounds fine for an infinite
Killing a single player though should be turn 3 or 4
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>>98367672
If you don't want to play bracket 3 then don't play bracket 3. This is a (You) issue.
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>new Kamigawa set
>more Neon Kamigawa slop
>go to comments
>people onions facing over Pacific Rim
This game is just done. In universe sets are just as gay as UB
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>>98367697
fr fr ong if Simpsons isn't one of the Mystery UB IP Ill give up on Magic forever
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bracket is a fucking dumb system made by (and for) people who can't have a normal conservation like an honest "is your deck 4fun or strong?"

JotC failed cummander so fucking hard it's not even a joke anymore.

Come to prEDH, my friends
Inb4: brazilian monkey
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>>98367579
God I fucking wish they looked like the pic you posted.
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Did you guys see that Darksteel Angel was literally some guys custom card from reddit and they just made it real?
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Kubrick UB when?
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>>98367718
*Plays 5c Hermit Druid*
I find it fun :))))
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>>98367736
It wasn't. The guy made the custom card off the art already previewed, but its effect as an homage to Platinum Angel was extremely obvious from the moment of inception.
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>>98367718
>bracket is a fucking dumb system made by (and for) people who can't have a normal conservation
This.
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>>98367751
>same art
>same name
>100% the same effect minus Metalcraft
Nah they definitely used that guy's idea.
Nothing wrong with that, i actually think it's pretty cool that they look to community content for ideas and lift the actually good ones.
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>>98367738
never
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>>98367762
>same art
>same name
ANON HE DIDNT MAKE THE ART
HE SAW THE ART PREVIEWED FOR REALITY SHIFT *LITERALLY* NAMED DARKSTEEL ANGEL AND MADE A CARD AROUND IT

A CARD BASED ON PLATINUM ANGEL
THE CARD IT IS IN REFERENCE TO BUT DARKSTEEL
WHICH IS INDESTRUCTIBLE
AHHH YOU STUPID RETARD I WISH I COULD REACH THROUGH THE SCREEN AND STRANGLE YOU
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>>98367762
>same art
the art they've had commissioned for over 15 years? The art they used to promote the Mirrodin Besieged prerelease "Mirrodin Pure vs New Phyrexia, who will win" gimmick?
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Top artists from modern MTG?
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>>98367636
Infinite faggotry is for Bracket 4, moron.
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>>98367791
This is wrong btw.
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>>98367776
I know he used existing wotc art dude you're not telling me anything new or anything that goes against my point
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>>98367777
>who will win
What a silly thing in hindsight. Phyrexia was always going to win, so they could be the new bad guys.
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>>98367636
Are you stupid? The brackets literally explicitly spell this out for you.
Bracket 3 you're supposed to build decks that can't easily win before everyone got to play their 6th turn.
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>>98367718
>bracket is a fucking dumb system made by (and for) people who can't have a normal conservation like an honest "is your deck 4fun or strong?"
You vastly overestimate the intelligence level of the average EDH player, yourself included.
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>Biorythms has been proven to be non issue
>They still wouldn't let Primetime and Rofellos out
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>>98367804
They could unban fucking Ancestral Recall and people wouldn't notice because this format is so deep in the shitter.
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>>98367804
Primetime is way better than biorhythm, which requires specific boardstates to be to actually do anything.
You can literally just cast prime and instantly get marit lage, for example.
An indestructible 20/20 flier for 6 mana (in green lol) is kinda crazy.
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>>98367791
This is correct.
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>>98367791
>>98367677
Who's right? Do I get to feel bummed that I didn't really get to play, or is it just a shit happens, go for the next round kind deal
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>>98365729
>TQ
It would be Zhalfir, Mirage block is my absolute favorite but the art makes it look like low tech Wakanda nonsense
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>>98366334
> instant and sorcery cards of one additional color not in this commanders color identity

This card has one additional color not in this commanders identity btw.

Null ele blast is playable by this commander. This is just null ele blast plus one additional color (red).
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>>98367801
Brackets are so much better. As you can see by retards here trying to angle shoot them
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>>98367819
think about it anon. an EIGHT (8) mana commander that is vulnerable to removal for an entire turn and needs other cards and protection to go infinite....

does that sound like bracket 4 to you?
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>>98367828
Babe wake up it's time for another conversation about what fair Tivit/Yuriko/Magda/Kinnan looks like.
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>nauctis
>underwater set with sharkfolk featured in the concept art showcase
Jaws Universes Within reprint incoming.
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I can't wait for star trek.
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>>98367946
>spacecraft slop
>landfall slop
>real humans slop
Nah. Borgs are kinda cool but even those are just a rehash of the Necrons.
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Whiny bitch post but this format has not only been power crept but the attitudes of the people that play it are rotted.
>entire format around building a deck around a theme or deck master
>so much removal/interaction, if you build a deck around a commander you're dead in the water
>people act like every single commander is a kill on sight instant win threat
>have to fill your own deck with interaction or protection to get anywhere
>only commanders that actually get anywhere are ones that can instantly win the game within a few turns
>better off making your commander some random no nothing cards that you run solely for the colors
>people wonder why they keep printing cards with Ward on them
Can't imagine running a commander above 4 CMC now, like you were able to 10 years ago.
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>playing any sea monster commander besides runo stromkirk
why?
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>>98367946
this

>>98367948
cringe
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Yes daddy wotc please feed me more scifi slop!
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>>98367958
And?
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>>98367830
flipping Banner to Hulk is only 6 mana and threating lethal on the entire board by turn 5 seems a bit excessive for b3

but again, it could've just been a god hand + god draw thing and I don't know how consistent he can get it to be
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>>98367830
One of the most notorious CEDH decks out there is a red 7 drop you have to pay 10 mana into to transform and possibly kill one person through combat damage. Mana costs are literally not an argument.
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So best way to build Kykar is just spellslinger right? See people leaning into the spirit tribal and I think thats kinda meh
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Damn it boys I have high cost deck but I don't want to run past 37 or 38 lands because lands are gay and not as cool as more toys
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
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>>98367993
You either run ramp or you run a deck that can cheese around high costs
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>>98367984
a few tribal payoffs/anthems wouldnt hurt, might even make the deck better than just pure spellslinger
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>>98367407
Why not? I actually only started with ff and now I'm going back to older sets my buddy told me about like Innstrand and Tarkir and think a lot of this stuff is cool
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>>98367982
Ralph and Mikey are the same story. Huge mana commanders can work if the payoff is worth it.
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>>98367867

should i sell mine?
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>>98367982
>he doesn't know how cEDH Etali operates
NGMI
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>>98366334
technically speaking, you can run this card and all the other dual face lands (except UG since is a creature)
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>>98365729
pacific rim kamigawa should be cool
water world might be nice too, have actual big fucks
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>>98368038
Moid
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>>98367984
I've heard some theorize him being a good surprise vehicle commander? I don't know how well that would play out but he does effectively make pilots every time you cast a vehicle so that's something. And in the colors for most artifact support and vehicles.
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nethroi vehicles
thank me later
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I want to build superfriends with this Thing
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>>98368028
I don't know, do you want to be the first before reprint gets previewed around spoiler season?
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>>98366171
when "each opponent"-like effects became ubiquitous
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>>98365729
>zhalfir spoilers
WE
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>>98368212
WUZ
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>>98368237
TEFERI
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Awhile ago I spitballed a set where the Omenpaths vomit a bunch of Ikoria's crystals onto Ixalan and the mutating dinosaurs became an ecological disaster. So I'm actually kind of hyped to see my daydream become a reality with Titanbreach.
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>>98368237
PLANESWALKERZ
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They need Bolas to save this franchise
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>>98367951
>>people act like every single commander is a kill on sight instant win threat

This one baffles me to no end. My main pod of friends will ALWAYS blow their removal on commanders. One of my buddies runs a Marchesa deck stuffed with major annoyances like Gintaxis or Sheoldred and instead of saving removal for cards they know will be problems as soon as March hits the board they blam her then seethe when they're having to sacrifice their creatures every turn or discard their entire hand because they have no removal left.

It's just bad threat evaluation, which has existed in this game long before the power creep.
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>>98367645
You are the literal embodiment of the "place: Japan" basedjack, you need to fuck off where you belong.
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>>98368282
For all their bluster about being a rainbow safe space WOTC isn't ready to make the zestiest power bottom in town the face of the franchise.
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>>98368282
We all know Jace is gonna revive Bolas as a hecking wholesome 100 reddit chungus good guy dragon
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>Friend is losing his mind because its "unfair and nonsense that they gave red a craterhoof."
>He is a simic good stuff player
>The new jace was fine and good design
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Any and all creatures should be eligible as commanders, legendary or not.
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all cards should be eligible as commanders, or heck even tokens and emblems
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>>98368428
so true twin. Force of Will is my commander
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>>98365729
>TQ
Fake Kamigawa is still as retarded and shit as ever
Don't care about Zhalfir
The ocean plane seems interesting, at least from what we've seen it's how new magic planes should be
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>>98368428
True.
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>>98365729
>TQ
None of them have really grabbed me but I'm interested in seeing whatever the hell that Nauctis is going to be.
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>>98368138
I can appreciate how well he works with his team
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>>98368423
Agreed
>print it wizards you cowards
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>>98368393
Revive?? Bolas ain't dead.
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>>98368428
>Turn 1
>Play my commander (intervention pact)
>Lose and don't have to play this shit game anymore

Finally, I'm free.
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>>98368423
>>98368428
You guys know that formats aren't real right? You can just play with your Dragon Broodmother in the command zone if you ask your friends.
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>>98367718
I'm pretty new to commander and I go to what's supposedly a casual commander night and many of the people are just off the fucking rails man.
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>>98368761
The denotion of a "competitive level" of the game has breed a mentality that as long as you're not in that bracket, you're still "casual" regardless of how turbo sweaty you can play.
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>Gay ass "You are seen" style flavor text
>Likely AI generated even.
WOTCs bitter refusal to give Miku unique cards pisses me off to no end.
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>>98368843
>each person
>as long as you are a scalper bot who is allowed to buy 1 of the 200 decks we are printing
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>>98368843
I don't think KEI, the original creator and artist of Miku is AI bro.
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>>98368856
The flavor text. Think this is the first card I've ever seen that uses an em dash.
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Honestly, I'm surprised that was even more at the bottom that could be scrape out of that barrel.
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>>98368843
Yeah, shes an AI, that's the point retard
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>>98368863
She's not an AI, she's a voice synthesizer. Effectively a musical instrument that makes human noises.
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>>98368863
Miku has never been an AI. She is an android from a future where music is lost. She has never been portrayed as being an artificial intelligence. She has less than a paragraph of lore and you still got it wrong.
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>>98368791
On the bright side there were super really good people there that just wanted to mess around as opposed to playing sweaty solitaire or whatever.
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>>98367984
you can do both? Spell-slinger is stronger imo.


But nothing is really stoping you from doing spirit tribal. Many tribal support cards are non-creature cards. Hes effectively a knock-off markov for spirits.
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>>98368875
>Miku isn't an ai she's a robot
Anon I need you to think about what you just said
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For spot removal in a deck, there any reason why you wouldn't just use instant exile effects for problem cards over destroy? I'm really confused why you'd play a destroy effect like generous gift over something like anguished unmaking, the former i see in a decent amount of decks and the latter far, far less
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>>98368875
... isn't an autonomous android necessarily an AI, though?
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>>98368912
Gift hits lands.
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>>98368912
sometimes you're not in black
and sometimes you already have the 1of Anguished Unmaking in your list
and also le elephante hits lands
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>>98368918
>>98368910
Now we get into philosophical shit. Is Artificial Intelligence named because it is not true intelligence, or is simply the origin of the intelligence being engineered the reason it is "Artificial"? If a base line is created, a raw, untrained, undirected mass of code is directed and allowed to learn via sight, sound, and interaction like a human child, is that intelligence still artificial?
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>>98368449
Commander tax is an added cost so you would still need to pay it.
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>>98368912
Exile is more limited in scope. Destroy effects can usually target more than one type of thing making them more robust. The most valuable things to hit for exile are Commanders who would come back anyways.
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>>98368403
He's right tho, this card is egregious and shows wotc have their finger on a dead cat rather than the pulse of balance
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>>98368843
who cares when 80% of the decks will go to resellers and the remaining ones to licenseslop secondaries who don't even play the game, and ((influencers))? No player is ever going to see this shit on the table, unless they proxy or pay the goy tax over on ebay.
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>>98368974
If you give a shit about the game's balance at this point you're a double retard
Balance your deck for your playgroup, Wizards is just gonna print more 1 card win the game engines, silver bullets, and powercrept nonsense
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>>98368974
>this card is egregious
My sides
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>>98368403
>>98368974
>7 mana card that requires you to have a large board wins the game
Craterhoof isn't even a good wincon and I'm tired of pretending it is.
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>>98368912
Because sometimes you might want to run two pieces of spot removal?
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>>98369082
Yeah man, sure you will enjoy seeing krenkos treasure decks
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I built my Edea deck last night and got a few games in at 2 different shops. Was fun. The first game I played I landed a T1 monkey and one player got incredibly salty. Rate, Hate.
https://archidekt.com/decks/24465407/edea_is_cute?sort=type&stack=types
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>>98368912
If you are paying more than 1 mana for instant-speed creature removal, you are doing it wrong. Outside of that, you should only be running multi-target removal.
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>>98369112
Why would a krenko player gut his deck of anthems and goblins for treasure generation for a finisher that he wouldn't need to begin with? The entire point of goblins is to go massively wide massively quickly. They don't need a fucking treasure gimmick as a finisher when just 80 goblins with an anthem would do the trick.
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>>98369112
>wtf the player that I let make 40 goblins and 40 treasures won the game?
You can just say you're shit at the game and don't know how to put wincons in your deck.
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>Tolarian Academy is banned because it so easy to shit out a billion artifacts (true).
>Gaea' s Cradle is not banned because it's harder to shit out a billion creatures (false).

Shouldn't the same logic apply to Red artifact craterhoof? It's so easy to have 10 artifacts by turn 5 compared to creatures. So many cards make treasures/clues/food/dildos. Red craterhoof will be ending games far quicker than normal craterhoof.
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>>98369213
>Have 10 artifacts with no creatures
>Play overrun effect
>???
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>>98369221
You only need 3 creatures to kill a single player with 8+ artifacts. Couple that with all the cards that make treasures as an additional effect. Hell, there are a ton of creatures now that make artifacts on etb now. It's amazing how so much discussion here is people pretending to be retarded.
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>>98369235
But enough about voltron
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>>98368974
>>98368403
The only decks that are going to want this card are ones that passively make large amounts of artifact tokens.
Like Titanic, Jaws, and Anim Pakal.
None of them are really all that good anyway.
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>>98369213
Tolarian is banned because it produces wins on turn 1 because there are many 0 cost artifacts that do something extremely useful in their own right (produce mana). There aren't many 0 cost creatures that do anything useful on their own, let alone on turn 1. Cradle deserves a ban but Academy is just on an entirely different level because of the stupid design mistake artifacts that are in eternal formats. Hoofs and win-more cards are just standard top-end fair. 5 mana on turn 1 is more problematic for design than "well if you met all these preconditions you can win the game" that you describe in hoof-like bombs. Dockside is the closer analogy.
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oh no, scryfall is using webp now
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>>98369263
AIEEEE I HAVE TO SCROLL DOWN FOR THE PNG DOWNLOAD SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!
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>>98369139
fyi: machine god's effigy can't copy Edea normally since the legend rule checks for "2 legendary permanents with the same name" and the copy effect of MGE takes both name and the legendary supertype
You would want a lot more Vile Duplication/Spark Double type effects if that was the goal with that card
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>>98369266
>right click -> hit save image as -> folder I want to save it in opens -> save it
>click download png image -> it's saved into fucking DOWNLOADS folder -> open the downloads folder -> open the folder i want to save it into - drag and drop into the proper folder
clunky, fuck webp
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>>98369139
Why don't you have Shaun? Pretty easy repeatable clone for Edea or some other borrowed creature.
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>>98369282
Holy shit that recruit mechanic sucks lmao
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>>98369267
MGE is there to clone my opponents creatures and be a mana dork. Thanks though.
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>draw discard draw discard draw discard draw discard draw discard draw discard
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>>98369288
Oh, that's good. I was going to replace Kethek today because I realized last night my deck only has 8 non legendries.
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>>98369276
Yet another commander that literally enables itself.
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>>98369281
>his browser isn't set up to always ask where to download files
Holy retard, batman!
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>>98365729
This is exactly white’s “color pie”. Why is this a “reality shift”?
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>>98369338
Pretty hyped for amass goblins.
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>>98369345
You're intentionally being obtuse and annoying, aren't you?
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No race swapped characters yet. Place your bets, who will be the first one revealed?
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>>98369364
That's not mox opal bruh
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>>98369358
That elf bitch they made up for the movie will be Mongolian.
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>>98369385
Welp, guess I'm buying the hobbit.
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>>98369282
I read The Hobbit last year, I don't remember any mention of a Queen of Dale. I guess she's Bard's wife?
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>>98369400
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>>98369417
Omg redhoof is now totally broken!
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>>98369423
>Dragon that is immune to gay sex.
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>>98369409
I'm not terribly surprised. Also I think Bard was Lord not King of Dale. Oh well, at least there's plenty of great cards for my Inferno deck.
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>>98369431
Not after the blue mana takes his clothes off.
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Not even Lord of the Rings universe could save a small set from being shit.
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>>98369323
>mfw starting to feel like this is borderline mandatory anymore
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>>98369290
Alhammarret's Archive is one of my favorite artifacts, so it's nice half of it is on a body
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>>98369466
They really slapped two of the most powerful and popular effects on a card and called it a day.
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RULE CHECK!!!!!!!!!!

AUTON SOLDIER ENTERS AS A COPY OF MUDDLE THE EVER CHANGING

I CAST EXPEDITE ON AUTON SOLDIER.
TRIGGERS ON THE STACK.
MUDDLE BECOMES A COPY OF AUTON SOLDIER (MUDDLE WITH MYRIAD), EXCEPT IT HAS MYRIAD
AUTON SOLDIER THEN BECOMES A COPY OF AUTON MUDDLE (MUDDLE WITH 2 MYRIADS) EXCEPT IT HAS MYRIAD

I cast another spell targeting mogis

"Except it has" are explicit copiable attributes that persist through copies. So these fanatics have myriad 5+
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>>98369423
That's pretty cool actually.
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>>98369468
I dont know if you watched the show put most design choices were in the vein of we thought it would be cool/fitting.
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>>98369334
that's cute, fun flavor
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>>98369477
Yes this works
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>>98369350
reality shift isn't planar chaos. It's not "repurpose the color pie", it's "what if Jace rewrote the universe and picked what happened", so it's Dark Confidant if it was white and cared about white effects
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>>98369356
>Functionally staples a 3 damage sweeper to any Dragon for 0 mana.
I know this is far from overpowered, it's just a bad sweeper, but something about how free this is kind of pisses me off even as a Dragonkek.
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>>98369350
It's Dark Confidant but shitty.
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>>98369505
>any Dragon for 0 mana
If you think the good dragons cost 4> mana you are silly.
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>>98369423
>when an non-toppable force meets an impenetrable bussy
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>>98369536
Bolas is probably the biggest bottom in Magic even now.
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Why does green get to simultaneously be the "more mana faster" and "big creatures cheaper" color
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>>98369524
I mean it refunds the 4 mana spent to cast it if you cast a Dragon afterwards. You don't net mana or anything, but if you play this and then cast like... Mirrym or whatever you did play a 3 damage sweeper for literally free, potentially even fixing your colors which is funny.
on paper that's kind of insane to print a 0 mana 3 damage sweeper, but you have to play "bad" cards to get the refund so it's fine.
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>>98369357
How is pointing out how retarded you are obtuse and annoying? Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to not change that setting?
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>>98369548
Because the color pie is poorly designed outdated trash
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>>98369548
"Big creatures cheaper" is just a form of ramp just like "more mana faster" is. Green is the color of ramp attached to permanents.

>>98369556
I misunderstood your original post. I read it as "staples a 3 mana sweeper [to any dragon for 0 mana]" rather than [staples a 3 mana sweeper] to any dragon [for 0 mana]". My mistake.
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>>98369334
Great board wipe follow up.
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>>98369423
Yoink, going into my Rowan self-harm creature storm deck
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>>98369607
I had given you the benefit of the doubt, and presumed you to be trolling, but no, you really did miss the forest for the trees, didn't you?
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>>98369334
>Keeps their text
Fuck, this is so cool.
Frustrating cool design because I own 0 black decks.
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>>98369678
Time for you to pick up Shelob or Myrkul
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>>98366171
2021, a precon released with nearly every set is just too much
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Does this look acceptable to bring to a LGS advertising their commander night as having mostly bracket 3 decks with some bracket 4s? Thinking of ditching bolas's citadel for something more thematic
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>>98369720
>a precon released with nearly every set is just too
there have been an average of ~3.2 precons released per set since 2021.
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>>98369794
https://archidekt.com/decks/24057230/blood_rites_upgraded
oops
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>>98369794
looks great.
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>>98368861
Holy zoomer, magic cards are literally where most millennials likely first ever saw them you fucking retard.
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>>98368951
Yes because it's silicon not carbon based you dumbass. The only real life is humankind made in God's image, all other life forms are ours to manipulate as we see fit.
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>>98369434
I think in the Hobbit he was just called the Lord of Dale but in the LOTR appendices, he was called King.
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>>98369673
>right click -> hit save image as -> folder I want to save it in opens -> save it
>click download png image -> folder I want to save it in opens -> save it
There is no forest, there are no trees. It's just you standing in an open field being retarded.
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>>98369901
>There are no trees
Then how did I eat all these apples and oranges?
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Where are the other goblins.
So me the goblins. I must (poorly) make them into women.
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>>98369901
Observe your fix in scenarios beyond that which was presented, and review the basis of my issue. Realize that you are not as smart as you think, and then rope.
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>>98369976
I'm just saying that you're retarded because it's a nonissue on scryfall if you aren't retarded. I'm not saying webp isn't dogshit otherwise.
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>>98369276
>no "while on the battlefield"
surely this doesn't mean what I think it does
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>>98370001
It does not
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>>98370014
why not?
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>>98369993
I'm just saying, your fix doesn't help because it would INTRODUCE a save-to-folder prompt in other situations in which I would be fine with something being dumped in the downloads folder without organization. My issue was more busywork had been introduced, and your fix, was to relegate the work elsewhere.
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>>98370027
do save-to-folder prompts use the stack?
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>>98370041
It'll nudge you every time a creature enters the battlefield, and you'll need toggle auto-resolve:decline to stop it, it's the worst shit.
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>>98370020
122.6
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>>98370061
i meant 112.6, woops
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I appreciate the attempt, but I think these look dogshit
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>>98370014
>>98370065
so why do cards like necrotic ooze and mirran stronghold specify on the battlefield?
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>>98370114
>special treatment art and formatting
>except rules text is in the regular spot without borders like shitty bonus sheet cards
lmao
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>>98370132
Because if it didn't, dipshits would try to say they have the activated abilities while in hand.
For example, Mirran Stronghold and a land in the graveyard with Cycling.
Or some fag trying to Ninjitsu in Necrotic Ooze because there was a ninja in the graveyard.
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>>98370114
ill wait to see it irl, there have been some frames i thought were real bad til i saw them irl next to cards with the same treatment.

that said the art this set looks terrible and I likely will be skipping yet another set this year.
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>>98369276
im glad i already own one of these
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>>98370203
how many non-elves with activated abilities are you running in your obvious elf tribal deck
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>>98364626
Marvel, whatever. No idea. Focused on x-men
Warhammer 40k
Dragon Quest
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>>98370114
>white card
>entire card is red
I hate this shit
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>>98370217
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>>98369426
What a flavor fail. It's not like Bilbo stole 3 things.
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>>98370114
Some of these special treatments look really good digitally (mtg arena) and horrific in real life. I think this will be like that again
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>>98370238
>in sultai
>your big plan is a 2 mana artifact whose payoff is you can later pay 7 to cheat 1 creature
cmon man I expected to see some sort of weirdo exhaust meme what is this
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>>98370250
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>>98369865
Nah
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>>98370027
>t. disorganized fag
You literally just save everything where you want it, why is that hard lmao
If you don't care where it ends up at all, just save it wherever it first opens.
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Is there such a thing as a deck with kci in it that does not go infinite at the drop of a hat?
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>>98370294
I care where SOME things end up, why is that so hard for you to grasp? Holy fuck you are dense.
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>>98370358
>>98370358
>>98370358

NEW
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>>98369315
Seems like a neat PDH commander option. Bit expensive and the Storied trigger would be hard to reach (since there's few sagas and no legendaries at common), but you could get there with artifacts (especially Treasures).
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>>98370336
Evidentpy exclusively things you can right-click + save as, which is practically nothing.
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>>98370613
>practically
weasel word
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>>98369301
I don't think it's weak, but I'm getting really annoyed seeing "draw, then discard, then do a thing" become such a heavily mined design space
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