Previous: >>98422684Black and Small Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>tqWhat creature do they never expect... but should?
>>98428971magus of the moonthey always think they are safe in B2
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
what are some sleeper picks for this mf
>>98428971>TQwtf the board full of creatures played a 7-drop Overrun effect and won?
>>98429073*8-drop
>>98428971>look mom I le defaced le OP with advertisements for my furry porn commissions again xDDDDDDFake thread, not /tg/, shan't use.
>>98428971>TQ>i'm running all proxies>...>we're not in a tournament you know>...you know what, you're right. let me take out my all proxy deck too>see that's the spirit>hahaha, right
>>98429113>shan't useBut you just did
>>98429129i don't see an issue with a ritualpost when there's a faggy ritualpost in the OP
>>98429138You did it again
>>98429164>This general is one person
>>98428971>TQMizzix's Mastery. My dude they're om spells what do you think was going to happen?.Trying to figure out Evelyn the Covetous and currently leaning towards a blink deck with a Lantern Control package. Could use some help since I've never played a blink deck or Lantern Control before.https://moxfield.com/decks/ub-weug-Ck-Itk0soKj3nQ
>>98429138You ritualpost every thread you're in. Multiple times even.
>>98429138Announcing you won't use the thread is using the thread. Do you think, by chance, that the person putting gay bolas in the op is seeking responses like that?
>>98429207>ritualposts have to be logical!you really should look at more stuff beyond /edhg/ and /tg/
>>98429236>I'm being retarded on purpose, you just don't get itYkw you got me there anon
>tqIf youre not expecting Mr Piggy youre asking for a bad time
>>98429190You don't need 41 lands with Talismans and for how low your curve is. I'd put in a little more draw instead of around 4 of those.
>>98429253this but faerie macabre
>>98429174Yes. Every post in /edhg/ is me.
thinking of reworking gyruda into saruman of many gays, maybe keeping it as a companion still, thoughts?
>>98429391commit to the bit and make it as garish as possible just like the gay alphabet
>mfw can't decide which Obeka to use for a time themed deck
>>98429535Splitter has cooler art
>>98429253That's actually pretty good. Instant speed targeted graveyard removal and it sacrifices itself so it gets death triggers too. Thanks anon.
>>98429061Magus of the moon isn't MLD you yard of tard, but I assume you were only pretending to be retarded.
>>98429535Obeka, Brute Chronologist has cooler art and flavor text. It also wouldn't get you hard targeted as much as the other Obeka would and the mess of triggers she causes.
>>98429120>Well, we aren't playing for ante, so...?
>>98429061They'd be correct, Blood Moon effects are explicitly part of "mass land denial" as per Gavin. Your deck is definitionally not B2/3 if it includes Magus of the Moon.
>>98429616*is
>>98429620>i'm afraid of gambling away fake cards of worthless valuePUSSYUSSY
>>98429120I add my goblin recruiter to the ante. I concede. I'm just glad someone else owns one of my proxies.
>>98429644>coomette has more balls than most of /edhg/the absolute state
>>98429644HOLY BASED
Give me your honest opinion on playing (against) forced discard decks.
>>98429681Boring archetype that's intentionally kept shit because it's unfun.
>>98429681I build this deck. Its actually kinda boring and relies too heavily on your "opps having that good shit"
>>98429681protip: beatdown is the way to go
>>98429681They deserve to be ganged up on by everyone else at the table.
>>98429644This is just a green elf. You coward.
>>98429745
>>98429415>you cast copy the exiled card without copying the may its mana cost
>>98429745They really don't look remotely similar.
I thought we were supposed to get mystery booster spoilers today. What the fuck.
>>98429415>a million Saruman of many colors>one Saruman of the white handFuck off wotc
>battles mentioned
>>98429986Oh boy spoilers for an ultra exclusive set I can't buy because WOTC is too cheap to rent a convention center in California for any event and the secret lair website will sell out in 5 octoseconds.
>>98429601Mr Piggy sends his regards
>>98430007Battles should be an evergreen mechanic, since there is a battle in the lore of literally every set.That, and it makes people seethe for some reason.
>>98430050They just feel like a pointless card type.
>>98430050>since there is a battle in the lore of literally every set.Aetherdrift
>>98430071The entire set was a "battle:" on the road is dozens of skirmishes and a big fight at the end with jace.
So is Warcraft UB confirmed?
>>98430091What do you think Arthas will be, mono B or Grixis?
Starfield UB
>>98430050>No incentive for anyone to attack it besides the owner>generally just an extra obnoxious turn wasting step to get it to flip to another card that would barely be worth casting even if it didn't require set up
>>98430050Think for 5 minutes about the emergent play pattern of a battle.>Flip reward is better than killing opponentYou give the battle to the worst player at the table to instantly flip it. Directly encourages farming easy wins off one bad player>Flip reward is not better than killing opponentBattle is a glorified sorcery. Does not justify being a unique permanent type with associated rules baggage.
>>98429681Hate them so much it's unreal. Goddamn faggots, the lot of em, same tier of autistic bitch as the guy that wants to play MLD in lower brackets
>>98430244kambalbros we're eating good
>>98430244>Directly encourages farming easy wins off one bad playerAs do combat triggers and on damage triggers, silly non-argument.
>>98430281>Anything that annoys me should be bannedI think your actually the autistic faggot that wants to dictate what is fun
My fav card, but hard to fit it in wheel decks
>>98430315It's more extreme with battles because they explicitly absorb damage from the player you're attacking and don't reward you for it until they flip. As a result they're much more committal and therefore require a higher payout to be worthwhile. Therefore the described issues are made more extreme because the expected payout is more than Goldvein Pick's 1 treasure token.
>>98430330If, in your infinite gayness, want to believe that, but its a moot point, since I am right and you are not.
Land tax is a bad card, and anyone who thinks otherwise is honestly and idiot.
>>98430510>one mana>deck thins 3 cards per turn>even better in green decks where discarding doesn't matter and you can play multiple land dropsPerfectly fine on any bracket up to 3, after that the game gets too fast
>>98430330Sorry anon can't play the no u card, I forced you to discard it in a massive, 300 IQ display of skill
>>98429065dunno about 'sleeper', but Kalaxie can pretty puch make shit spells worth it by doubling the effects.
>>98430529too powerful for 2.
>>98430529More like "up to 4" tbdesu
Is there a precon that can keep up with the Ashling one?Dont want to buy trash Ill never use for demo games.
>ordered a super combo from local game store>they only have a $4 surge foil, feel like I'm overpaying since it's 15 cents but whatever I have store credit>week later>look it up for whatever reason>it's $40 and they fucked up the listingWew
>>98430630I hate that these were so cool but impossible to get if you didn't want to pay serialized level pricing.
>>98430636They're ugly as fuck anon lmao, I didn't even WANT it. It was just what the store had on-hand.
>>98430644I'll buy it from you for 5 bucks then.
mono white chads we eatin' good with the hobbit?
>>98430668Mono white, magda players and elves are all eating good here
>>98430688>>98430668Enjoy your new 60 dollar bracket 2 legal tithe.
>>98430749Its barely going to proc in bracket 2 unless you are spending the mana every turn cycle to give your opponents card advantage.
>>98430630Why is every alt art in this game ugly as fuck?
I play Chromatic Lantern for the ability to stop thinking about my lands in three or more color decks. Lets me focus on triggers, interactions and everything else. Yeah there are better competitive options, but it takes a load off my brain and makes games more enjoyable for me.
>>98430761and in bracket 3 it isn't needed because tithe exists. Glad we have come to the conclusion that new card is overrated as fuck
>>98430772gotchathanks for sharing
I was playing at the LGS (which I haven't done in a few weeks), I was playing an unmodified Riders of Rohan precon. I got a win entirely because I topdecked Taunt from the Rampart at the right moment. This game can nice sometimes, I had a good time.
you cute
>Repercussion + Blasphemous Act is an infinite combo banned in Brackets 1-3.What the fuck
>>98430883I don't think people know what infinite means.
>>98430883you know better than to take that seriously
>>98428971Nobody expect them!
>ban most of the banlist>bring back the old tuck rule>bring back the old legendary rule>ban UB by defaultThere. I fixed the format.
>>98430878You gay
>>98429597Well that's just a fucking lie.
>>98430910what are the lore implications here? she dropped out of magic school?
>>98430330>fun is not allowing other people to take game actionsYou are, with no sense of irony at all, having fun wrong.
>>98430071It's actually perfect. The race can be the battle, and the aetherspark could have been the back side.
>>98430244>but think of how it's used in commander!No. That's how we got to the shit sandwivh of today. It used to be that cards were designed for 1v1 two player games and we'd have to make them work in commander, good or bad, and it was better that way.
>>98430510This is a 'tard take, but the real retards are the ones running land tax and not grabbing 3 lands every single turn (unless they're playing against a wheel or discard deck). You are always garenteed to have a land in hand and have better and bettwr odda of drawing a spell every turn.
>>98430941Okay here's how it goes in 1v1>Flip reward is better than killing opponentYou rotated every format to be about flipping the battle>Flip reward is not better than killing opponentYou made draft chaff
>>98430330stand strong, kingcontinue to rip people's hands and their joy away just as wotc intended for black to do in a b2 pod, remember to laugh in hammy way while you're at it
>>98430883I don't know where you're getting that from, but it's in no way infinite.
>>98430924She was introduced in a commander set, so she has no background, just that she travelled from wherever she was to TJ.
>>98430962Expect that context changes whether the flip side is better than hitting the opponent in the given situation.
>>98430983You need to choose whether or not you're putting the battle in your deck before the game. If the answer is not consistently "yes" to attacking the battle being more beneficial than killing your opponent, then you're just not going to run it.
>>98430883If it's banned in bracket 3 for me to peer into the abyss myself with a psychic corrosion then you don't get to nuke the table either
>>98430993Consistantly, yes always, no. They also have etb triggers whivh may be worth running in themselves with the backside only occarionally being helpful in certain matchups.
>>98430883The site is retarded and frames every combo as infinite. That is often a game-ending combo, though, and it's so easy to include in a deck I'd argue it's inappropriate for bracket 3. The win is "your opponents have 3-4 creatures"
>>98430962rofl retard-kun cannot into card advantage, that's like saying "uhh you should swing with your 1/1 with tap: draw a card" because otherwise you're saying DRAWING A CARD IS BETTER THAN KILLING YOUR OPPONENTGo play red deck wins
>>98431009And have no creatures. Sounds like bracket 3, yeah
>>98431026The decks that run repercussion are going to be creature light to begin with. It's just a lazy, effortless combo in this day and age.
>>98431033Yeah, sounds like bracket 3.
>>98431026>>98431033You can have as many creatures as you want, you are the one creating all the triggers as the active player. You can choose how they are ordered and have all of yours last so, in theory, everyone is dead before yours even go off.
>>98431015Go ahead and tell me how many battles saw 1v1 play, and why that was.
>>98431045Fair enough. It would be pretty hilarious if one other player could prevent the damage to him, though.
>>98431009That is often a game-ending combo, though, and it's so easy to include in a deck I'd argue it's inappropriate for bracket 3. The win is "you have 6+ creatures in green"this took long enough>>98429073>>98429080
>>98431054Craterhoof is, has, and always will be slop.
>>98431058neither of those slops are b4+ is the point
>>98431062Yea but they're cringe at b3, so they just shouldn't exist anywhere.
>>98431004If the consistent part is the etb then you've circled back to them being used just as a sorcery, at which point they're not justifying the design space an entire permanent type mandates.
>>98431049Ikoria for the front face tutor effect, Gobakhnan for mostly the front face for disruption, Tolvada for both faces reanimate and anthem, and Fiora for both sides, boardwipe into monarch
>>98431058Calling everything you don't personally like "slop" is peak intellectual slop.
>>98431067they're fine at b2 is also the point, you finding them cringe has nothing to do with their actual power level
>>98431068No because the backside is sometimes useful given the matchup and boardstate. It's also a permanent, which functions differently to an instant or sorcery.
>>98431071>>98431073Getting defensive that your generic wincon is called slop is indicative that it is indeed slop.
>>98431000>If it's banned in bracket 3 for me to peer into the abyss myself with a psychic corrosionyou actually can, so congrats you got swindled by your pod
>>98431074"Backside might sometimes be useful" is not enough to warrant an entire permanent type.
>>98431076feel free to call my deck slop while i stomp you in b2, fairest trade in the world
>>98431077I got swindled by the bracket system making no sense.
>>98431083>I got swindled by the bracket system that i don't bother reading and let my pod take advantage of memany such cases
>>98431083They were designed so the most idiotic mouthbreathers could understand them, and you still can't. Anon. You need to get a grip of your life and read a book.
Imagine playing at a tier 3 table where everyone just bitches, I couldnt
>>98431082>making up a scenario in your head because you're this upset your deck is sloplol
brackets need a per bracket banlist
>>98431088This just strengthens the argument that the brackets aren't doing what they are intended to.
>>98431069The correct list was:>Gobakhnan for front face>Zendikar for front face>Ikoria for front face (fringe 1v1 play, but notable since it's still played in cEDH)Notice how these all had something in common: You didn't care about flipping them because accessing a battle's backside meant you just paid mana to increase your opponent's life total.
>>98431091>tell him he can have his moral victory while i get an actual victory via hoof>he still madwhat a life lmao
>>98431094No, its just strengths that you are a dumbfuck.
>>98431097But the brackets were designed for dumb fucks to understandand they don't
>>98431078They wanted it to interact with combat like planewalkers, and there wasn't a permanent type that did that already.
>>98431094they're designed to filter you because you're too much of a casual
>>98431098They don't because they are below dumbfuck, are are pretending to be that retarded.I know one fish blue fish trips you up, but you need to keep reading. You'll get to 3rd grade eventually.
>>98431077?
>>98431106see that red circle?that's you being an idiot
>>98431114schizo posting
>>98431114You mean the community being stupid?
>>98431118like i said
>>98431095>accessing the back meant paying mana to increase the life totalIf you were only running it for the back side, yes. It would be a x mana do nothing. That's not the case though. Instead it's an x mana do something good, and then give the opponent x life to do something else good. One needs to be wroth the mana, the other needs to be worth the life. Maybe they didn't achieve that in the first set,Also lmao at people running zendikar (explosive vegetation). There's no fuckin way. Was standard that hard up?
>>98431100If your deck is considering a battle for its backside, then your deck is already interacting with combat. However decks that are mainly focused on combat aren't paying mana to not kill their opponent before they stabilize.
>>98431125So it actually depends on how fast you can psychic corrosion into peer
>>98431132oh NOW you've learned to read
>>98431106The tool is evidently broken as this in simply not infinite. Yes it usually ends the game, but it is in no way infinite.
>>98431125>play ramp>deploy psychic corrosion a turn earlier>deploy peer into the abyss before turn 6You can't in good faith say your bracket 3 deck won't have the mana to do this consistently.
>>98431148hence the term "sandbagging">and a simpler, more enforceable way that the LGS employs is just to limit all infinites (regardless whether they are 2 or 3) to be deployable only by your t7+ ownwards in b3, ensuring that (You) at least see a t6, just as gavin intended
>>98431155Actually I just never play combo or "I win" buttons so I'm always in the moral right.
>>98431160>i'm always in the moral rightsure you have that, i'll just have the technical right, aka the win in exchange, nice playing with you
>>98431130>for its backsideIt should be considered, but the only consistant effect is the front side. It is entirely feesible for the back side to result in killing your opponent quicker, whether or not that happened in the one set they released of it. The design space allows for interesting and useful cards that utilized tge mechanical uniqueness of the card type.
>>98431165Because I never run combo I run a lot of interaction, so your sweaty combos will never hit the board.
>Guy used spike feeder and archangel of thune to gain infinite life and put infinite +1/+1 counters on his 12 creatures. >He then full swung into me with city of fire and repercussion on my board only to get hit with comeuppance to be dealt 12(3(3 x Infinite)) damage to the face. He then told me my deck wasn't bracket 3.Most complaints about what combo is "unfair" at bracket 3 comes down to "wah you beat my aids with your aids."
>>98431128The problem is no decks cared about battles after their front face because the investment in flipping one was so large. The best color at actually flipping battles was red (no points for guessing why) which is also the color that can absolutely not afford prolonging games. Basically every piece of design surrounding battles points to their actual unique design space being extremely narrow, because if you want the backside to matter (which is the only reason a battle justifies its existence over a sorcery), it has to be an extremely large payoff that's just barely not large enough it's just an easier way to win the game than killing your opponent. That's the reason they got dropped. Because actually trying to fit something in this space without ruining a format is a nightmare.>lmao at people running zendikar (explosive vegetation)It was a major part of domain ramp, so yes.
>>98431148Deck composition matters most. If a combo is not consistantly achievable by turn 6, then it doesn't count. I have these guys in my marath deck, but I have not tutors and a meh card draw package. Outside of happening to draw them together, there is no way to win with them by turn 6, so the combo does not count.
>>98431184>finally someone that cares to stop what other people are doingNot even mad
>>98431193Forget them.
>>98431188what justifies battle's existence over a sorcery is it's a permanent
>>98431170If the consistent part is the front face, then decks will generally not consider the backside at all because of how big the gap is between resolving a battle and flipping it. This is acceptable design space for a set gimmick, but when you're talking about a whole permanent type, it has to do more to justify its existence than just be a sorcery that has some extra text in 2% of games.
>>98431200Battles are bounceable
>>98431196they cute
>>98431200Believe it or not people don't like random extra mechanics just for the sake of extra mechanics.
>>98431188That's not narrow, it's just difficult. Certainly aggro decks would be good at flipping them, but yeah, you're giving up damage one turn sooner. Surely more control-ie and midrange decks would benefit more if the backsides were better, though. It's can't be that difficult to find a happy middleground between winning you the game and being worth giving the opponent 4 life.
>>98431219Midrange/control would rather just run a bomb in that slot because it's not contingent on combat/burn to access.
>>98431202It's also a permant, and if they made the back better, even situationally better, than the opponent gaining 4 life, they could see play for both sides. But they gave up.
>>98431206they're blinkable
>>98431209I know you are saying that because of his ability, but it's ironic because he's also a planeswalker, which is an extra mechanic in itself.
>>98431225They gave up because the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
>>98431223But midrange and control are fine with combat, no? Outside of combo decks.
>>98431236If a midrange or control deck can comfortably attack and connect, then it's already winning.
>>98431234>having an interesting mechanically unique card type isn't worth the moderate struggle of designing around it>why yes, we did print anouther "do the thing again" card this setSo they're lazy.
>>98431248Yes although I invite you to try designing a battle that people will play for the backside without ruining a format.
>>98431246It's winning at the moment, but if he flipps he might win a turn sooner, or protect the win, or what have you. The design space is there is my point.
>>98431254That design space is called "win more" and historically it isn't very useful.
>haha lets play 4s!>go last>literally have 3 turns>guy has taken 5 extra turns and has 12 lands, spends 30 minutes jacking off his merfolk>table concedes out of boredom>next game>guy has the same capture of jing zhou, karns sundering, temporal manipulation extra spells in every deck>windmill slams value engines, tutors and free counters>leave after 30 minutes on turn 3 because I'm bored and hes playing solitaire>bitchhards that my vexing bauble should be considered in game for the remainder of the turn>walk awayWhy do people play this shit? It's a solved format. Your pool of cards at optimized edh is tiny. You can almost script all playlines and decisions in bash.
>>98431264Everyone above 3 has active brain damage.
I'm not very impressed or excited by what's in the hobbit so far, so good news for those of you who are, because my opinion is shit and always the minority so it's shaping up to be a big hit so far.
>>98431251How about Ghirapur Grand Prix. 4 mana ETB make some pilots or something (i don't know the ser mechanics), 4 health. When it's flipped, it's the aetherspark but not shit, so give it ward and a -x that deals x damage or something.I don't know.
Lifelink cards have a special place in my heart.
>>98431259Win more isn't win sooner, nor is it protect the win. Winmore is tossing cards into a pit unnecessarly when you already are set up for the win. This is directing damage elsewhere to protect the win or acieve it earlier using a card you already played.
>>98431264This is why you play b2. More restrictions lead to a more open design space.
>>98431188battles could be like:>The Alamo BattleWG2Battle, 4FlashEnters under your control. Attacking creatures are now attacking this battle. They gain trample.If a creature you control would die during the combat this battle entered in, exile it.Transformed:Enchantment>Remember The AlamoCreatures you control get +X/+X (equal to exiled creatures total power) and all activated and triggered abilities of the exiled creatures.
>>98431317The best way to protect a win is by winning and not dicking around spending a turn swinging at a battle.
>play with bracket 2 newbs>shackle myself to basically precons>they whip out vivi, nekusaur, and edgar
>>98431343All you did was make worse Settle the Wreckage.
>>98431358what
>>98431345>attack with 4/4>opponent goes down to 12 life>pass>attack with 4/4>opponent goes down to 8 lifevs>attack battle with 4/4>get a 3/5 dude that deals 3 damage when it attacks>pass>attack with both>opponent goes down to 6 life
>>98431365>Hmm yes my opponent is full swinging and I would like to punish it>I could exile their whole board>or I could try finagling my whole deck around blocking with specific creatures to accommodate this rules nightmare
>>98431371>Play a second 4/4 instead of the battle>Bonus: The 4/4 usually has its own beneficial text on it>???
Making half the deck group hug/politicsWould there be a creature type/playstyle/strategy that works best at finishing off the last guy 1v1?
>>98431343I'm the battle defender, amd I don't really understand why you would do this. This of all battles could just as easilly be the enchantment that's on the back half, with a self-exile and fog as an etb trigger for it. This is dumb.
>make a bracket 2 Yshtola group hug deck where there isn't even a real wincon just to play something more relaxed after one of my powerful decks kicks the shit out of the table>every time I do I get hyper focused by combat damage and removal even if I'm mana screwed/flooded and literally doing nothing while a much bigger threat is sitting on someone else's boardWhelp I tried to be nice but clearly my playgroup wants every game to be a nail biter. I'm rebuilding Cat Queen as a forced sacrifice deck.
>>98431379>the battle made the 4/4 to begin with>attacking it to make another better thing costs no mana, so you can play another 4/4 still if you want
>>98431372>he doesn't settle the wreckage his token board to ramp out of controlanyway, yes, wittle away all soul, fun and variety, you could just exile everything your opponent plays and just do teferi / venser uw >>98431389well for one it's a mass misleading signpost, not a fog. also it's representing the alamo, and it imprints to all creatures you controlled through their sacrifice by remembering the alamo. honestly, you just throw a trigger engine or something in there and it's busted.
>>98431394Did you have a conversation before the game about what the deck does? Cause I had a newer player who is a constantly online netdecker target down my pillowfort zur deck and my no wheels nekusar deck because he assumed what the decks did without asking, and I blame myself because I'm so used to the people I regularly play with knowing my decks.
>>98431398>Battle made a 4/4>Nobody's playing it because that's the whole front half
>>98431409>a trigger engineSir, this is 1v1And I am not denying the flavpr, I am denying the mechanicql benefit of it being a battle over an enchqntment with am etb.
>>98431409>Dude it's fun and soulYou realize people complain when UB creatures have unique subtypes despite subtypes not mattering in most games, right? Part of being an actual designer is understanding you are not the most important person in the room and your sense of whimsy is beholden to the players, so it a mechanic doesn't justify its complexity you end up with a sticker-tier revolt.
>>98431414Naw, ot also drains or something. I'm not the design team. I'm just saying there is a space for it to be good, they just don't want to put the effort in.
>>98431427>I'm not the design teamThe expertise of the design team would be making multiple of these every year (minimum 3 if you want it to be evergreen like planeswalkers). If you can't even make one full card to steelman your own case it doesn't bode well for the concept because what it indicates is that even you, as the person who wants more battles, can't think of a battle interesting enough to include in the game.
Ahem…TRIBALthank you.
>>98431440kindred
>>98431412It's a friend group and it's well known to be my breather deck. But every single time they go all out on me for no logical reason. I've even asked if its cause they're pissed at my previous wins of the night but they just shrug their shoulders and say I'm usually just the most open person to swing at, which makes zero fucking sense especially because they'll also removal or counter spell shit like Howling Mine or Font of Mythos BEFORE even if its their fucking turn next and it would make more sense to let it resolve and remove it after they got a card.They're just kinda bad at the game, but if they don't want me playing more relaxed decks after punching them to death with Azula I have no problem rebuilding to make sure their boards are empty, forever.
>>98431440>>98431448*typal
>>98431440BASED>>98431448shit but somehow more based than what 99% of trannysöys call it which is typal
>>98431306It’s boring shit; does anyone give a fuck about bland birds? I’m going to pick up like 5 cards, one being Smaug, Through the forest gate for Tifa and some equipment.
>>98431448Should be in the next UB set
>>98431436>if you can't make one card off the top off your head without any set or rotation context, then you're shotI am not someone who has extensively studied game design, I've only done personal research on it for my own works. I'm laying in bed half-heartedly trying to sleep, not sitting in an office mid day surrounded by teams working on the same things I am.
>>98431449I have one player who has countered or removed completely nonsensical things from me more times than I can count. I can't imagine having a whole playgroup of that, my lord. Yeah, go ham. Be the villain they for some reason target you as.
>>98431456 i thought you weren't going to comment anymore >>98429113
>>98431440Absolute state of tribalshitters...
>>98431468That's the problem. You are advocating for an evergreen mechanic where you can not even conceptualize one card to justify its existence.
>>98430898He'd be a fun Helm of the Host target.
>>98431487I already conceptualized two. I have no ironed out either. We are talking about one, the other one I mentioned earlier with the race that flips into the atherspark but good. Concepts aren't the issue, researching a set and the entire rotation is the issue, and not something I'm going to do for free at 1 am while I'm trying to sleep. If I was a designer in an office, surrounded by a design teqm already neck deep into the set, that would be an entirely different story.
>>98431426yeah, I guess that's why all the fun and interesting cards are premodern, before everything was 'do thing draw card opponent lose life' stapled to everything
>>98431516>Look inside>2 mana 13/13Yeah really fun and original format full of janky cards.
>>98431505You think "overstatted creature" is design space only a battle can accomplish?
Why did God create me to utterly fixate on making stealth b4 decks that are technically b2
>>98431544God created real secondary causes
>>98429052uh oh melty
>>98431575Blud digging up historical relics
>>98427842no because "gavin" is a drag queen with no real authority over a player made formatanyone currently working at GōtC has nothing valid to say about the game especially ELDER DRAGON HIGHLANDER. including MAROthat said speaking of MARO did anyone buy his little mini card game yet? I was thinking of picking it up
>>98431588I was playing Bloomburrow Pack Wars all day on Modo had to catch up on what was going on with 4chinz
>>98431602His game looks gay as fuck
>>98431394Are they attacking you to get attack or damage triggers off and you’re just sitting there with nothing but y’shtola on the board or are they really targeting you out of spite?I want to make a deck around this fucker as an Angel tribal deck with only toxic enabling poison counters and zero proliferate, like if you reach 10 poison counters it’s your own damn fault, but I reckon I’m gonna get focused down faster than b2 y’shtola no matter what. How would you guys approach this concept? I wanna make use of my phyrexian bulk.
>>98431306damn this set is gonna be an ultra banger
>>98431619I wouldn't make it angel tribal cause tribal is dumb. You can probably just tweak the precon, remove the proliferate from it, and have a pregame talk that yes it's a poison deck, but there's no proliferate or hard infect shananigans.
>>98431688I’m more so looking at doing angel tribal because I don’t have the precon and I’m only going to get the stand out infect and angel cards from the precon for my own.
>>98431394>just to play something more relaxed after one of my powerful decks kicks the shit out of the tableYeah, this is why you're getting hard focused and targeted. It's your attitude.
wedding ring is just too good
>>98432005say aah
>>96010136>>96010153>>96010161So to the anon who told me Star Trek was not going to happen this year and that it was all bait, that it couldn't possibly have commander decks when avatar and spiderman didn'tahahahahahaha
>>98432135levels of based rarely seen
>>98432051>9 mana just to counter play a wedding ringDo cEDH troons really?
>>98430807I wish he was a chick instead, guy is too zesty looking even if i do dig the effect and i don't think I've ever heard of a male nymph before
>>98430980>mfw I find her neat and it's probably because she's just a no background info shown punchy ogre time wizardIf they add more lore to her it's probably gonna suck but until then, I'm intrigued
Trying to find a good Grixis commanderAre either of the Obekas, Marchesas, or Ashnod any good?
>>98432504You shouldn't ask if they are "good," you should only ask yourself if you think they are fun.
>You shouldn't ask if they are "good," you should only ask yourself if you think they are fun.
>>98432504Ashnod might be cool, I’ve never seen anyone make a deck around her before.
>>98432646
>>98430962The answer to this dilemma is to make the front half more worth playing so that, even if the back half isn't worth the flip, you get value out of casting the spell. Fiora's a good example.
>>98432504Ashnod is fire design "do it again", but it might still bw fun with tiny artifacts that sac themselves for value.Marchesa on things with death triggers can be veey fun. My buddy has a deck wirh her and it's good. Never have I been more afriad of Reef Worm.Original Obeka is very difficuot to play around because her ability is only really beneficial on a very narrow margin of effects: one that go on the stack at specifically the next end step so you can fizzle them; if they go on every end step then she is very vulnerable to removal cause taking her out will take out half your board as well.
>>98432135Most based grudgeposter
Black Friday {3BR}>Battle - SeigeWhen this battle enters, for each opponent who isn't defending it, you may choose a creature. That creature must attack this battle if able during their controller's next combat phase.Whenever a creature attacks this battle, its owner creates a Treasure token, then Black Friday deals damage equal to its power equal to the amount of Treasure you control to that creature.{15}Ejwelah, Greed Harvester>Legendary Creature - Human NobleWhenever a source deals excess damage, that source's controller creates that many Treasure tokens."Spend, spend, SPEND!"
>>98431394>What the fuck? I'm playing the retard-tailored control.dec Esper commander that everyone and their grandmother is building for being good, and I'm getting... le targeted? Don't they know that my take is uber special and I'm only including cards that have the letter D in their name?
>>98431394bruddy, if you want to play anything from like top25 built in a "casual" manner to turn the brain off you play that deck first and not when everyone is doping on cortisol because of the prior game with you
>>98432135It is not linear.
>>98432215A bit late cause I had a sleep.Counterplay? Thats to kill you housewife style after I ring you and you take out the other 2 for me.
>>98431394>Most of the people in the pod build 2s (with game changes, meaning that is basically nonfunctioning decks with rhystic study)>Want to just play my 2s and my low powered 3s with them because that's more chill and they will having a fighting chance >But the 4th is a turbo faggot who just wants to play his 4s every game so I have to not be chill to try and balance it outIt's really fucking annoying.And even if he did build a 2, he'd probably be like you and build some other top 25 edhrec bullshit commander.
>>98431688who the fuck would do infect without proliferate
>>98432051why does this result in 0 life rather than half the total
>>98432504fabricate or demonic tutor for Torpor Orb or Stifle or defabricate (run all of those) and....
>>98433144Did you read the post I was responding to? He said that's exactly what he wanted to do.
>>98433228I'll take the land, thank you.
>>98429073I actually feel bad when I win using this bastard, happens far to often
>>98430301Kambal 1.0?
>>98433155Say you're at a full 40 life. Beacon of Immortality is put on the stack; doubling your life is gaining 40 life to 80 life; but Tainted Remedy triggers. Tainted Remedy is a replacement effect that makes you lose life instead of gain life, so the 40 life you would gain becomes a loss of 40 life.40, less 40, is 0, which causes you to lose the game on the next state check. You'll find this is true for any amount of life.
>>98430833Really good card actually
>>98431185Thats a good one anon I dig it
>>98433228Cards like these are funny because if 2 players take the land, there is no reason for the 3rd or more players not to aswell because getting 4 or 5 lands isn't that much better than getting 3, and being behind one land from all your other opponents is much worse than not. It's like the rhystic study or smothering tith issue: if anyone doesn't pay, there's no reason for anyone to pay.
I need to build more artifact decks so I'll have one for every bracket.
>>98432790This discussion was already had. If the important part is the front half you can't justify it being an whole new permanent type with associated rules baggage.
bracket 4/5 Commander is infinitely more fun than 1-3 because nobody expects you to manage their emotions and seeing the same cards / wincons every game is a tradeoff I've happily madeyou win with turn 2-4 thoracle? good playyou blow up all lands and stax everyone to death slowly? good playyou remove someone's commander for the third time in a row? good playyour mana dorks get btfo by OBM? good playmeanwhile more than half of low-power tables is 30 minutes of crying where everyone insists they're "just here to have fun" until you attack them once and suddenly you've violated the geneva conventionmakes you think how the supposedly "casual" brackets are where people take game actions the most personallyunlike higher brackets where everyone spends the 30-120 minutes trying to ruin each other's game, laugh when they get blown the fuck out, shuffles up, and plays again.turns out the healthiest games happen when everyone agrees that your feelings aren't a state-based action
>>98433565LARP
>>98433565Based. Whiny antigamers will dispute this and cry about how if they can just ban every single card commander will feel as fun as it was a decade ago for them
Powerful...
>>98433565>implying stax is even playable in cedhTurbo-combo the format is gay. If you like it that's cool, but b4 is for the adults.
>>98433565Nice reddit spacing, your wife's son must love commander night with you
>>98433605I mean it's not tier 1 for sure but both tayam and winota are currently in the top 20 most popular commanders in b5>>98433617as opposed to a nogames faggot like you who doesn't even play? post deck
>>98433601>Male dragon>Make him look as effeminate as possible in EVERY artworkWhat did WotC mean by this?
>>98432135I found this posting funny because I was actually know how the license deal with Paramount went. Star Trek was the main Paramount IP that WotC wanted all the way back when negotiations first started. However Hasbro got them Spongebob first because Paramount wanted to test the waters with a larger deal. That's why Spongebob was loaded with money cards to the point it had Smothering Tithe.
>>98433686Tolkien must have been a massive tranny DEI fag
>>98433565This doesn't line up with my experiences at all but I'm glad the bracket system is working for you anon.
>>98433565You forgot that it utterly bottlenecks deckbuilding, the only fun part about EDH.
>>98433851Is Smaug gay or European?
>>98433994You're not funny.
>>98433601>9 mana a rotation to get 3 treasures while giving your opps cards! >But what if they are drawing a ton without me using the ability?>One who treasure a turn! >So gooooooood!
>>98433976European.Smaug is supposed to be a PTSD soldier from wwi.a killer who looted and raped and is now old and paranoid
>>98433228The true IQ determining card. If I resolve this in a pod and people give me 4 of my best lands for 4 mana, then I know I am free to rape theses retards holes all night. >Anon is so good at the gameNo, you retarded fucks are just stupid as shit.
>>98433565Nice B4 sneak when it's also just a containment bracket
>>98433879>your card selection is limited>in exchange you get to play with emotionally and mentally mature playersLol not the own you think it is
>>98434187EDH is nothing if you strangle the card pool down to goodstuff staples and combo lines.
>>98434187I don't think I've ever met a CEDH player that I'd describe as emotionally and mentally mature. I'm not certain they aren't out there, but I don't see any correlation between brackets and sportsmanship.
>>98434147Tempt is such a good card because it's overvalued at its cost if even one person is a retard.
>>98432135Based but anyone who couldn't see Star Trek on the horizon when they dropped Edge of Eternities is a genuine brainlet. There's never been a more obvious set up for a UB set.
>>98434187>all the mature people in his area only play high powerMy condolences anon. In my town it's much the opposite, B4 is where all the socially maladjusted types default to because they can't live without their GC staple-piles and the cEDH crowd is just the retards who flunked out of real competitive formats.
>>98434215It really is a card that shows how small brained someone is. Everyone should see that and know it is overpriced for what it does. Yet, time after time I encounter a retard, who doesn't even need the land drop, give me a land, then that cascades.
>>98433601Gay Smaug
>>98434194i dont think i have either because every emotionally and mentally mature player I've met was a constructed player who plays edh for fun on the side. Every player who started with edh meets one or more of the following criteria.>misrepresenting deck bracket>abysmal threat assessment>micro-negotiating every phase aka "politic players">playing solitaire long turns without winning or even advancing the board in any meaningful way>is a "im not doing anything" sandbagger>angleshooter>scoops out of spite and does kingmaking>constantly whines when things get slightly inconvenient
>>98434225It's always some retarded drooler too that thinks he's clever for noticing that it doesn't say "basic" too.
>>98434231>i dont think i have either because every emotionally and mentally mature player I've met was a constructed player who plays edh for fun on the side.This. EDH becoming the default way to play (and thus how most players are introduced to the game) has been a disaster for EDH as well as Magic in general.
>>98434080>free treasure when your opponent does a thing they should be doing anyway>implying your opponents don't draw cards>infinite mana outlet>kills thoracle
>>98434284You have to remember how the average EDH player "plays" the game. They spend their whole hand ramping into 1-2 bombs, and if you get rid of them, they spend the next 10 turns playing land-pass with an empty hand. That's why most precon commanders are easy sources of card advantage now, because if you don't hold the hand of these tards they'll never draw cards despite it being the best thing you can do when aggro is nonexistent.
>>98434080Pay 3: draw a card, create a treasure activate only once each turnOccationally get a free treasure.That sounds alright. I'd rather just have a ton of clues, but that would require more setup.
>>98434301I play in a friendly pod. Every week one of my friends alternates between screw or flood. And it's because he had no ramp, no acceleration, and no draw
>>98434080Disingenuous. Its really have you and an opponent draw a card and make a treasure token.And if an opponent draws twice you get a treasure out of it which is decent already
There is no reason for 2 or 1 color decks to be lacking in card draw, there are 6 colorless lands that simply draw a card if you dump (admittedly large) mana into them. Not even counting the lands with a color identity that draw or the draw and discards lands ect ect.
>>98434352>or the draw and discards landsThis fag making a proclaimation while pretending looting is the same ballpark as gaining cards.
>>98434303It's not once a turn though
>"you guys don't mind proxies, do you?">"so long as you aren't proxying a cradle or anything sure">guy gets real quiet>"w-well, would it really be any different if I owned one?">"do you own one?">he leavesLOOOL that shit made my day
>>98434506I suspect that this never actually happened.
>>98434506did the table clap? Tell me they clapped!
>>98434506HOLY BASED
>>98434525I mean, no. We just picked up another guy to join. It wasn't a big deal I just thought it was funny.
>>98434506>"you guys don't mind proxies, do you?">"so long as you aren't proxying a cradle or anything sure">guy smirks>"Well, would it really be any different if I owned one?">"do you own one?">"Yes">The room erupts into applause and all the girls in the LGS, yes there were girls there, really hot ones with big tits all gave him a blowjob.
>>98434536I suspect that this actually happened.
>>98434536HOLY BASED
>>98434506Based. Why is it that proxyfags only ever want to proxy the sloppiest most expensive cards?
>>98434190>ok fine we're immature and dumb>...but we have lots of themes!Lol
>>98434536The only girls I ever see at LGSs are either fat autistic nerd queens who everyone swarms around like flies, or hot cute Asian girls who are hanging out with their chad boyfriend who everyone stays away from.Sometimes the autistic nerd queens are skinny but they're exceptionally ugly looking to make up for not being fat.This has been anecdotally true for me over the course of 20 years going to local game stores.
Why can't MLD just be a game changer, why does it get banned entirely. My hokori deck is absolutely bracket 3 it's a pile of fucking garbage.
>>98434080>literally wins the game in cedh
>>98434647because gaving made the format his playground and for nobody else. you voted for this btw
>>98434647Its so retarded. My dogshit big red decks are bracket 4 because of that. I found it truly digusting that MLD isn’t just considered a wincon. Just go to the next game.Its a horribly designed system that fucks anything that isnt midrange battleship magic.FUCK COMBOFUCK AGGROFUCK VOLTRON>mmm are you playing reprecussion and OH MY GOD BLASPHEMOUS ACT????>this is a bracket 2 game, that two card infinite is banned in bracket 2. You deck is bracket 4.
>>98434147I put tempt in a deck that only runs two non-basics and I tell them ahead of time I'm grabbing forests using this. It doesn't change things really because this is like a goofy piece of ramp in my deck but sometimes I get 4 forests out of the deal which rules
>>98434476It's minimum once each turn except yours.
>>98433565You must be fucking joking, the biggest seethers I have ever seen on God's green earth inhabit bracket 4. And I play fighting games! Do you have any idea how bad you have to behave to get a fighting game player to say "wow, you're being babies"?
>>98433228Am I a bad person for putting this in my Omo deck
>>98434647>>98434787>be me>play mono red>all mountains besides one Valukut>play thisI win so many games because of this. Fuck greedy manabases. There is a an advantage to playing a mono colored commander with basic lands, and I will remind them.
>>98430114not before Oblivion/Skyrim (ELDER SCROLLS) UBFinal Fantasy, Zelda & Elder Scrolls are the holy trinity of video game high fantasy IPs
>>98434811Not really. Anyone who takes the offer against an Omo deck is clinically retarded, which isn't your fault. It's basically just worse Reap and Sow if you are playing with real actual people.
>>98429626this has been debunked
>>98433565BINGO. whenever I'm playing bracket 4 shit and like the mono red MONKE player does Blood Moon I'm like "shit that was a great turn 3". or not paying the 1 for Rhystic and getting 10 mana off a Jeska's Will "damnnnnnn bro"you Swords someones commander in the diaper brackets (2 & 3) and they're seething already
>>98434876very based. this is my favorite for when I know there will be green heavy landfall decks
>>98434917Proof next thread?
>>98434787what other way to play commander is there than Voltron? its either tribal elves, dragons, cats, knights etc or a big Voltron dude. the game is called commander ie ELDER DRAGON HIGHLANDER [there can only be ONE]sure theres alternate win cons, decking out, coalition victory (was banned for awhile), MORTAL KOMBAT but how can anyone playing the commander format have an issue with "Voltron"and yeah its totally fair to run blood moon as one of the 3 "GC's" in your deck. its not banned, it never has been banned and its not on the game changer list. bracket rules are not official rules. play magus of the/ [blood] moon
>>98434571I used to frequently see girls at my stores before UB took over.Now I just see "girls."
>>98434784This stops a turn 1 or 2 thoracle how?
>>98434957NO
>>98435071you make them draw in response
>>98435139On turn one before you even have it out? On 2 why would you want this over a counter spell or even a stifle?When you're in white, but without access to blue, angel's grace does that same thing with split second for a single white.This enchantment won't see play in CEDH.
>>98435154>almost unreactable wincon if you have infinite mana>can kill thoracle in responseSure, if someone won before you even got a turn it doesnt help, but sop does nothing else other than free counterspells
>>98432806She can also work with myriad, exile the sac trigger at the end of combat and suddenly you have 4 things with myriad
>>98435239NEW ONE
>>98435184Yeah, I learned recently that "at" in the middle of an effect defines a delayed trigger, so that does open up my understanding of how many effects she can affect somewhat, yeah. Encore works too, but then you're looking for Araumi.
>>98433601I put this in breena shit's cash
