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Big White Edition

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What's the best (or worst) mono white edh deck you've ever built?
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>playing a 5 mana commander voltron
>already been removed twice, one was single target that I was able to gy recurring out of but the second one was a boardwipe I didnt have an answer for
>kinda mana screwed with only 4 lands and my sol ring and Signet got destroyed too
>do a little cheatyface scry 5 to see if there's anything that could help me bounce back in my next draws
>no lands just some too late protection and pumps
>I concede

Is it bad form to do that if you dont think you can come back into the game proper?
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>>98435284
conceding isn't but cheating is
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>rank 825
>1.17%
Why isnt this dude in every deck?
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>>98435307
Wouldn't even see play in rogsi
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98435324
But he combos with almost every card?
Also whats rogsi?
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>playgroup fell apart
>other friend who plays only plays cedh
>lgs is full of freaks
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>>98435307
>3 mana
>doesn't do anything when he enters the battlefield
>has a tap ability but doesn't have haste
>needs at least one other card in order to win the game

He was powercrept out of revelance even before his set appeared.
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>>98435284
>Run no card draw
>Lose
How could this happen?
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>>98435307
>3 mana + XX winmore card
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>/edhg/ constantly whining about the bracket system every thread
>in-person I've had 1 minor issue arise while using it in a year+ of weekly play at my LGS with randos
Really gets the noggin' joggin'.
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>>98435399
Yes. We play with friend pods and whine about a system we don't even use.
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>>98435239
>TQ: What's the best (or worst) mono white edh deck you've ever built?
It's the only one I've ever built, therefore the best and worst. I love it though. People tend to underestimate mono-white.
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>>98435399
Most commander players can't tell you the full banlist despite saying that the banlist needs to be small so people can remember it.
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>>98435399
I recently got accused of not playing bracket 2 because I happened to draw nexus of fate after the turn I cast it. my deck was pretty thin
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>>98435376
He could get external haste?
How is needing another card a downside for a combo card? Thats the whole point.
Getting a second trigger off your big thing you just payed 6 or 8 at the low cost of 2?

>>98435384
Extra ramp, extra draws, extra whatever payoff at instant speed.
How is that winmore? It can take half a win and turn it into a full win.
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>>98435380
I did have a few draw pieces but they just weren't in hand, such is life

>>98435293
That's fair
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>>98435416
Because you're not actually turning "half a win" into a full win. You're imagining scenarios this card has all the setup in the world, is never drawn in the wrong order, and gets to survive until it does something useful. If you want more of X you just run another card that gives you X instead of stuffing in a multiplier and hoping you happen to get it when you need it.
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>>98435380
Jaya and ajani btw and it's not even close
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>>98435239
TQ: Take a look at this CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.
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>>98435333
yeah very similar vibe where I'm at. theres multiple LGS but I dont have much hope from what I've seen from the first. how do people even end up like that?
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>>98435328
this has been debunked
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>I'm sorry...it's...just....I know it's bracket 3....but I cast blood moon.....hahahahahahahaha
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>>98435487
I'm not sure what a Rjoed Meon is, but I don't think it's a legal magic card.
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>>98435487
>recieves game loss due to illegal deck
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>>98435501
From who?
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>>98435487
Legitimately, actually;

>player runs extra turns, commander as value engines, duals in every deck
>routinely wins on turn 3/4 with 4s
>guy that came back to the game asks me to play deadpool, its a 4
>does nothing but does play blood moon
>guy with 3 sheoldreds and 2 green goblins crashing out and bitching that his extra turns are not chaining, and blood moon is bracket 4, not 3
>despite me doing nothing, then wins immediately anyway
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Feeling like making a Deserts deck. Is Hazezon Sandshaper any fun?
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>>98435507
The table that promptly kicked you out of the game
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>>98435530
I ain't leavin
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>>98435399
I just smile and play the game per the agreed rules and save my bitching for the internet rather than whatever shmuck with his sleeved capeshit happened to show up
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>>98435399
I had one issue arise that upset me so much that I disassembled a deck and also told my group that if they ever let that person back in I was quitting. So fuck brackets.
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>>98435399
I'm convinced it's just one guy doing it.
The same retard who goes "but REEEEEEEEstic Study!
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>>98435399

The bracket system is absolutely retarded and so is everyone who defends it with even a single word. It's effectively five different banlists, but instead of being actual, concrete lists those banlists are ultra vague so everyone can argue anything belongs on them. It's the single worst possible way to handle the "problem" of good decks being better than bad decks.
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>>98435512
He's fine. Best one for deserts I suppose, thouvh that's not saying much. Dune-brood nephilim is more fun by my measure and gives you access to more deserts.
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>>98435557
Woah anon you can't just point out how the system is a complete joke. I'll accuse you of never playing.
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>>98435535
Nice, well they're playing without you now, ignoring you. Next player already has played their land
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>>98435557
This is strictly not true and only retards can't comprehend the idea of performance based balancing.

There's a short list of rules for each bracket and a turn count where you're generally going to threaten a game win. Failing to understand the former is illiteracy, failing to understand the latter is inexperience and a reason you should have one of your less retarded friends look at your decks.
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>>98435399
Are you, good sir, trying to imply that the denizens of this fine cardboard appreciation and collection forum do not actually engage in the practice of that pass time with other gentlemen? I resent that remake good sir and would ask you to take to meet me for pistols at dawn to defend the honor of this fine establishment.
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>>98435580
nta but the fact there are constant arguments about the bracket system and what they mean is definitive proof they aren't doing their job. This discussion would not be here if they were clear.
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>>98435380
Next to Bolas since I also want everyone else in the room dead.
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>>98435557
>It doesn't make any sense, which is why I can go through and break every tier which means I fully understand it and it making plenty of sense for me to understand how to abuse and break it while still being in the colors of the rules for it!
You need to understand something to understand it's flaws, and for it to be understood, it needs to make sense.
It's that simple.
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>>98435552
>I am convinced only one person dislikes the bracket system
You cannot genuinely think this.
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>>98435594
>I am on 4chan, therefore there is 0 chance people are pretending to be retarded, or, the greater chance, they are infact retarded
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>>98435612
Whatever you need to tell yourself I guess.
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>>98435406
why the hell would you put city of brass in a mono colored deck? big ups for using all order borders, thats very pimpin. cant standard the modern almost-no-border frame. crovax is great that is who I was thinking for my first mono white edh deck.

which leads me to TQ: I haven't ever made one since 2010. but I used to play mono white in legacy. since you are a negroid if you play Serra ascendant in commander without the proper errata (is 6/6 flyer if your life is 10 more than your starting total) I haven't bothered.

but in the legacy deck it was Serra Ascendant, Ajani Pridemate, original Ajani Goldmane planeswalker and Felidar Soverign, beacon of immortality, Test of Endurance etc etc. was fun

recently did an updated Vintage one on MTG Forge with the newer cards Ocelot Pride and Shadowspear + the good ol stuff Mox Pearl and Sol Ring and Strip Mine. Lotta fun.

no idea how that could translate to commander in a deck that isnt cheeze ball cheater-lite

wanting to go with Crovax doing a solider tribal I'm actually kind of thinking going red-white for Colonel Mustard from the Clue[do] set. so still no mono white.
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>>98435501
what illegal card? which card is banned, and by whom?
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>>98435594
Pretending to have a discussion is not the same as having a discussion and there's been so much begging of the question and concern trolling around that assuming good intent is fucking foolish.

Just the MLD discussion is a perfect example; "Blood Moon is Bracket 3" is not an argument, it is a factually wrong statement. If it was a discussion the discussion would be "MLD should be allowed in Bracket 3", because that is an opinion statement that can be supported or opposed in debate.

The fact people are flapping their gums and spewing bullshit from both ends is not evidence of rational argument.
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>>98435239
Based, this is the thread.
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>>98435511
thats great.

and ABU duals should absolutely be in every deck this is zero reason not to
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>>98435648
Keep telling yourself this rather than accept that your beta has serious issues that need to be worked out. But bracket defenders act like these rules came down from fucking christ and cannot be challenged or changed.
Should we talk about the wrong statement where you insisted corrosion+peer was bracket 2 and 3 legal but then when we went to any site that takes a poll on it, they said it was 4?
Seems only you are the king bracket whisperer who can understand this shit. We'll need to hire you at every LGS so you can deceipher this shit.
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>>98435659
guy with the "modified precon" running abu dual proxies
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>>98435399
the one game I played with randoms last month was a nightmare

>I've got a bracket 2, 3 & 4 deck. I like my bracket 4 one the best

other dude says "yeah ill do bracket 4!"

the two other randos who know that guy agree

main other dude is playing a cedh deck and the other two dudes were playing bracket 3s. game ended on turn 4. absolutely retarded experience
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>>98435666
I can forward you my rates, but i don't think you'll be able to pay them.

Also while /tg/ is in fact a single person I was not /tg/ that day so you need to take it up with him when he comes back.

Reading the brackets explain the brackets.
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>ask what bracket the group is playing
>they say 3
>they are at best playing precon level
>absolutely pub stomp them
Brackets working as intended.
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>>98435677
I had a 3 card infinite combo that included my commander and the guy bitched at me that it's actually a 2 card infinite combo and hasn't spoken to me in a year
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>>98435648
blood moon ISNT MLD because it doesnt affect basic lands

if you run so little basic lands that blood moon stops you from playing, well you've learned an important lesson haven't you

>no instead I will cry about how unfair it is to build a deck for a wide variety of possibilities and understand what a "greedy mana base is"

this is the same type of player who would get pissed if you bolted him when he was down to 2 life from Necro
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>>98435672
no thats not me, but that is a great suggestion to any player, take out all tapped lands and put in ABU, shocks and pain lands as needed
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>>98435686
You:
> Blood Moon isn't going to affect more than 4 lands per player because everyone is going to be running basics
Also You:
> I'm running Blood Moon to deny players their mana colors, which means they have to be running non-basics for me to turn into Mountains

So are you an angleshooter or a retard?
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>>98435691
actually it's a terrible suggestion, there should only be basics and taplands
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>>98435686
Blood Moon was explicitly called out by name as MLD in the article that introduced brackets you donkey
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>>98435682
This didn't happen. Everyone knows and agrees on the brackets and how they work. We already went over last night how a two card combo is ok if it costs too much. Because you'd never have a way to do it early.
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>Go to the LGS for some casual bracket 3
>Some retard UBshitter basedface shows up uninvited with picrel
>Turbos out Rhystic Study on turn 2
>Deadly Rollicks my commander the moment I cast it even though I hadn't done anything yet
>Plays Smothering Tithe + Wheel of Fortune
>Deflecting Swats my attempt to stop it with Mana Drain
>Try to tell him this deck clearly isn't a 3, but he's a UBshitter so he's dumber than rocks and doesn't understand it
>Get an idea to teach him a lesson
>Ask to see his Wheel of Fortune
>He hands it over
>Quickly get it out of its sleeve and rip it in one quick motion, torn clean in half
>He just stands there completely stunned
>He starts screaming that it cost $500 as he looks like he's about to cry
>He runs over to the store owner with tears running down his face, screaming for me to get kicked out
>I coolly act like I don't know what he's talking about, almost works until the other two players rat on me
>Get to flash him a smug glance as I pack up my things and walk out while the store owner is clearly trying to stop him from chimping out
Got "banned" from the LGS but it was totally worth it. That guy's never going to be playing Magic again so I bet I can go back in a few weeks once the owner realizes who the real regular is.
Any fun stories to start the weekend anons?
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>>98435648
MLD cards should at absolute worst be considered game changers, fucking retarded to just categorically ban them to 4+ because they hurt the precious vibe gamers moods
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>>98435720
What makes his deck not a 3 based on the criteria posted here daily that you guys call people retarded over?
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>>98435720
this isn't real but it's fucking BASED all expensive cards should be ripped
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>>98435724
Turn 2 Rhystic Study and instantly killing someone's commander before they even do anything is cEDH, not casual bracket 3.

>>98435727
I would have recorded it if I knew he was going to have a meltie. I almost wish it was a proxy so I could have exposed him for that instead.
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>>98435723
this
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>>98435723
You realize the actual format banlist was based more on Sheldon's personal vibes than what was actually raping the format, right?
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>>98435720
>mana drain
yta
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>>98435723
>Or they could just stay where they are at
>No! THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED BELOW 4!
>Why? Why can't you just play them at that bracket?
>Because people will counter spell my MLD or have removal on hand to instantly remove it, dodge it, or recover from it! i NEED IT TO DUNK OF PRECONS AND NOOBS THAT JUST WANT RHYSTIC IN THEIR PRECONS!
Its literally always this.
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>>98435770
It's not, I play online and literally nobody wants to play b4+ so it's a softban on playing these cards at all is my problem
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>>98435762
I did not but that makes sense, antigamers ruining games
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>>98435785
>All I want to do is bloodmoon poor players and I can't WAHHHHHHH
Biggest you problem and just stop being a faggot scenario I have ever seen.
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>wotc prints a vehicle that literally does everything Greasefang wants out of a vehicle
>it's the fucking thanos-copter
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>can blow retards the fuck out by reminding them there is a real cost to running the best in slot lands and high-color piles
>that cost is actually completely subsidized by "NOOOO LET ME PLAY THE GAMEEEEEEEEE!"
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>>98435802
Beyond based
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>>98435807
This isn't MLD. They can pound sand.
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>>98435796
>Bloodmoon poor players
Poor players run basics not $20 shocks and fetches for one
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>>98435794
I don't fully disagree with you but it's clear that even by like 2010 Magic as a whole was moving away from a lot of early designs because even if they weren't overpowered basically nobody found them fun so they were functionally adding nothing to the game by being allowed. Compare the shift of Stone Rain -> Craterize (made worse) -> Cleansing Wildfire (reworked)
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>>98435807
If you play this I will call the pinkertons
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>>98435808
If we're going to get shitty UB sets I wish they at least took themselves slightly seriously. It's literally just a shitty meme. At least the previous UB vehicle slop wasn't a fucking joke, like pic rel, Prydwen from Fallout, Fire-Nation drill from Avatar. Thanos-Copter is arguably the best vehicle tribal draw engine in the format now.

Maybe I'm just hyper focused on vehicles too much. I love them because of how bad they are.
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>>98435834
Thanos copter is shit unless you are using it to win the game
>6 mana
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>>98435840
I've never paid the casting cost of a vehicle in my entire life. I'm hitting you with the Thanos-Copter on turn 3.
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>>98435827
>Compare the shift of Stone Rain -> Craterize (made worse) -> Cleansing Wildfire (reworked)

That was a change for the worse though. They fucked up land destruction so bad that now cards that naturally would be utter trash like Field of the Dead have to be banned cause they eliminated all ways to fight them.
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are there any other marvel-slop cards that can be played without breaking theme ?
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>>98435727
>this isn't real but it's fucking BASED all expensive cards should be ripped

Honestly this. If WotC isn't going to do what's necessary and print them to dirt, they should simply all be destroyed so that no one can play with them.
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>>98435807
Actually lost a game like an absolute retard to this once.
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>>98435872
Nothing about Field of the Dead makes it vulnerable to Stone Rain but not Cleansing Wildfire so I'm not sure what your point is.
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>>98435802
not everything but it is competitive against parhelion II
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https://moxfield.com/decks/4O702qSEnU2TGjLdbYUlgA
What changes should I make to my 'grease?
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I hope you guys got some basic in your library ;)
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>>98435920
yes, plenty
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>>98435920
Yes. But also.
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>>98435927
But WAIT
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>>98435934
Did you forget?
Tranny colors win again.
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>>98435934
I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe.
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>>98435939
Red deck, they just win.
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>>98435946
Yeah, the green and white deck wouldn't have removed this instant, surely.
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>>98435239
Finally a thread that isn’t zoophilic.

>TQ
I have a Tataru Taru group hug deck, made it before the cEDH crowd started using it as a value engine, it’s utter dogshit.

https://archidekt.com/decks/18056721/hate_hug
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This isn't a good card, but I enjoy running it.
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Damage can be prevented.
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>>98435951
Red has tons of redirect spell too.
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>>98435967
Okay.
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>>98435958
Kinda good in Yeva
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>>98435239
>TQ: What's the best (or worst) mono white edh deck you've ever built?
Best: my bracket 1 General Jarkeld masterpiece

Worst: Stiltzkin bad gifts stax. It was decent but very slow.
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>>98435973
I know it doesn't have flash itself, but I'd just prefer playing pic related with it.
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This thing is gonna appear in the top 10 of most played commanders.
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>>98436041
no it won't, the game is completely saturated and no one cares to run optimal cards
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>>98436041
Just look foot mommy was, right?
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Is any deck with these cards bracket 4 minimum?
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>>98436056
Most likely.
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>>98436041
Marwyn still pegged this guy, no lube.
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>>98435647
Blood Moon is Mass Land Denial and therefore banned in brackets 1-3, according to WotC who now govern commander legality.
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>>98435604
>>98435613
Weird timing!
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Leave the brackets to me.
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>>98435874
>hero
>villian
I'm not even gunna make in-universe proxies of these cause I hate these subtypes so much I don't want them on my cards.
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>>98435980
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>>98436047
>>98436050
>>98436069
You underestimate the average bracket 2 mouth breather struggling to play against bracket 3-4 decks at the LGS. I guarantee you’ll have at least one fucker with this card and they’ve kitted it out with every landfall and elf staple and called it a day, thinking they’re the biggest genius on the planet because miraculously they’re now winning games.
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>>98435399
Given how last thread had an anon that didnt even know he could run psychic corrosion + peer into the abyss in b3 i'm 100% convinced all anti-bracket hate is composed of people who cannot and refuse to read, damning indeed
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>>98436118
You could say this about Aesi or Tatyova.
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realizing that i dont hate commander, im not tired of mtg, im just sick and exhausted from dealing with the never ending stream of mouthbreathers that UB is bringing in who have zero interest in anything printed before 2010 unless edhrec tells them they need it.
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>>98436175
Landfall and Elves are the two most oversupported archetypes in MTG, combining the two in such a free value way makes it better than everything else that came before it.
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>>98436180
Go back to the dead Anti UB containment thread Timmy, we play cards regardless of the source of their artwork and concept and focus solely on mechanics here.
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>>98435720
>>98435748
>yet another internal rhystic meltie that causes anons to fake stories online
Reminder that rhystic is authentic edh
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>>98435956
>started using it as a value engine, it’s utter dogshit.
how? i love tataru
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Putting a single UB card into your deck is like letting a nigger fuck your wife.
I like feel the same, it might play the same, it might look alright, but there's an inescapable taint on it. It will ever actually be the same. It's ruined. Forever, and the only way to deal with it is to trash it and start over.
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>>98435956
But she's get a new 100000 dollar CEDH turbo staple
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>>98436217
In the 99 of a blink deck she’s amazing but in the command zone she sucks.
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>>98436223
Is this you?
>>98392883
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>>98436235
I wish this was real
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>>98436241
Trannies are so mentally ill that genuine shitposts about them still have a decent chance of being half right in reality
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Kinda disappointed with the mechanics of Carnage, I wonder why they made him a reanimator
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>>98436223
You must be one of those insufferable people who only make a deck because its helmed by their "waifu."
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>>98436312
boooba
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>>98436041
Only if it was a sexy anime waifu elf
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>>98436354
That's what proxies are for
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>>98436223
>Putting a single UB card into your deck is like letting a nigger fuck your wife.
Huh? I don't get hard when I put UB cards in my deck. Weird projection.
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>>98435399
Make a bracket 2 voltron deck
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>>98436360
It does look like a femboy, maybe the guy in the thread obsessed with BBC might use it after his performative rage about cards that he’s absolutely going to purchase and use.
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>>98436377
Whomst?
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>>98436360
no need to proxy
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>>98436388
sex with mel
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>>98436371
I mean sure I guess.
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>>98436388
>88
i approve, any art is much better than the 'boon they got on that card.
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How do you respond?
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>>98436388
That's still considered a proxy you wingus dingus
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Who doesn't play a card because of pic related?
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>>98436402
split second is bracket 3 minimum
- this is a bracket 2 pod breh
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>>98436406
Honestly I'd play the cute black alt-art spellseeker, but I found an original printing for $10 and I couldn't pass it up.
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>>98436391
>kills someone turn 5
JUDGE!
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>>98435785
this isnt true at all, bracket 4 is extremely easy to get into a game for with Modo.

there may be slightly less people playing br 4 than other brackets but its not at all what youre saying homo
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>>98436223
I have never liked the mtg lore or characters so I love UB for how salty is makes neckbeard faggots.
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>>98436459
No I play with real cards I don't play modo. Nobody wants to b4 either in my LGS or online
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>tutor as many cards as you want into your hand for just 4 mana
Okay what the fuck?
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>>98436484
>Discard 5 for Doomsday that loses to sac Lantern
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>>98436041
is there no {G} mana dork that just taps for {U}? I've got a couple of Urborg Elves but those are 1G and just paid $12 for a very beat copy of this hoe. also got Llanowar Dead but thats also just {B}

but I dont think theres anything for getting a blue
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>>98436070
and there is no official rule stating blood moon is banned in any commander format
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>>98436497
Noble Hierarch but it does 3 colors
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>>98436473
"online" means MTGO (modo) by default

so your statement is fake news
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Naruto UB soon
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>>98436539
Not happening when they have TWO new Naruto card games coming out in the next year. Not cutting a deal with WotC when Naruto has it's own cards to sell.
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>>98436354
>people won't play elfball landfall token shit unless the commander is hot
You don't play.
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>>98436554
Unless the card game is a massive hit in the US this is irrelevant.
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I wish there were some actually hot commanders, Morcant looks disgusting and most other female legends are pretty whatever too.
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>>98436503
great card I have in a 5 color deck but I need it for UBG so the white kills it.
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>>98436564
Tifafag will take 5 minutes of of his day from gaping his asshole with his tifa figurines to reply to this post.
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>>98435637
>why the hell would you put city of brass in a mono colored deck
Look at the commander
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>>98436564
Thalia? Giada? Sigarda? Aurelia? Akroma?
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>>98436585
Thalia has some pretty artworks but idk if i'd call her hot. Giada is ugly. The rest aren't really hot at all.
Just being female doesn't make a character or artwork hot.
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>>98436554
The Bandai one (the only naruto tcg of the 2 people care about) plays a lot like Yugioh which is super interesting. Nearly every card game is a copy of magic but it's rare to get one trying to be Yugioh.
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>>98436360
Proxying waifus is boring. I want to force the rest of the table to look at official waifu art cards.
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>>98436572
Sounds like Tifa has mindraped you harder than the actual Tifa users. Hilarious!
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>>98436558
People will play him but he's not going to be a top 10 or even a top 100 commander
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>>98436564
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>>98436603
>He says, proving just how insufferably pathetic they are.
Hilarious indeed.
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>>98436564
Reddit acts like Morcant is the hottest sexxo in the world
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>>98436595
Red Akroma?
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>>98436572
>day from gaping his asshole with his tifa figurine
This is you projecting your fantasies
>>98436607
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>>98436601
UB JJK or UB Demon Slayer makes more sense to me
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For me it's OG Radha before getting brainwashed.
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>>98436527
Ok that's how you mean it, Im saying I play with my physical cards on spelltable and nobody wants to play b4+ ever, nor at my LGS, so it's essentially a softban from what I see
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>>98436497
NO PETER DON'T
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>>98436564
Massacre Girl is a qtpa2t, though mechanically her cards suck. Which is pretty much the problem with most waifu cards.
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Here in Magic we love our grannies.
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>>98436636
That's right!
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>>98436640
Not enough wrinkies.
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>>98436539
>>98436563
WotC still has partial ownership of Duel Masters which is one of the biggest TCG in Japan. No Japanese IP that already has a card game is gonna hand over the rights to WotC when it's one of their biggest competitors. So you can forget about anything like Naruto, One Piece, or Dragonball ever getting a UB set.
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>>98436579
elesh norn?
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>>98436656
>No Japanese IP that already has a card game is gonna hand over the rights to WotC when it's one of their biggest competitors.
Aside from square enix
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>>98436680
If FF even has a tcg right now it's not even in the top 10 best selling in japan.
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>>98436630
oh yeah duh I have birds of course but specifically blue
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>>98436564
Avacyn, Liliana, Rowan, Fire Lord Azula, Gisa, Lulu (FF), Marwyn, Aphelia, Shadowheart, Alela, Scarlet Witch, Elenda, Teysa, Ashnod, Elesh Norn, Azusa, Belbe, Jinnie Fay, Dina, Nine-fingers, Marchesa, Judith

none of em doin it for ya?
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>>98436703
Isn't there someone you're forgetting?
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I hope Trek gives us "That's a Stupid Question" as a counterspell. I'll put it in every deck.
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>>98436720
You're right, my bad.
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>>98436740
She cute
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>>98436733
I hope they do the Data Lore meme "are you prepared for the kind of death you've earned little man" and lets you remove target player from the game

or just a good exile target creature/planeswalker would be cool
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>>98436733
Will we get "Shut up Wesley"?
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is this deck the proper power level for a casual but strong bracket 4(-ish) table?
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>>98436740
>Make it so
>Engage!
>Early grey, hot
What are some other lines we will get as a card name?
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>>98436789
Darmok as a saga probably
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>>98436789
>It's a fake!
Sacs and copies an artifact of something
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>>98435802
>playing a helicopter makes all your cars able to drive themselves
Maybe it's because I don't know marvel but I still don't get the flavor here
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>>98436830
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>doesn't go infinite
Literally unplayable
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will TRK have battles too?
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>>98435557
It's fine for the main purpose, to have at least some sort of agreed upon base for rule 0 talk. The only guy who I’ve seen complain upon it irl is a guy who thinks Sol Ring should be a gamechanger, so he basically thinks it doesn’t go far enough
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>>98435686
Retarded argument as long as 3 color slop is being pushed as much as it is
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>>98436857
Oh shit didn't know that got spoiled.
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>>98436857
Not sure if AI generated or shit artist but Sisko's glass does not look like that.
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>>98436953
I have never watched Star Trek so all the art in this set looks like the lamest shit ever.
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>>98436883
They're not coming back little bro
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>>98436811
Worse temple of the false god, muraganda raceway at that point
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finally a playable ramp card for grixis bracket 4 decks other than wayfair's bauble
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>>98436958
blocks you're path chud
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lookin for a fun commander for Sea Monsters themed deck to prep for the subnautica plane

Kiora or Arixmethes? Something else?
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>>98435785
>literally nobody wants to play b4
Maybe because it's as gay as mld? Bracket 2-3 slop piles you make from dozens of common and uncommon leftovers from packs for the 60 card format is the most soulful EDH experience
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>>98435807
I respect the hustle of people that use this on me
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>>98435816
Poor players run tri color tap lands, which are effected by blood moon all the same
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>>98436223
OK, weird fetish you have about your wife getting fucked, but good on you being so open about it
Anyway I have Cloud Strife, Cid Highwind and Tifa Lockhart attacking you for 21
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>>98436774
That better be a Silence variant
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Been wanting to do a fun themed deck using primarily cards from The Hobbit and LotR. Want your thoughts on what could be pulled together into something good.

>Gandalf Party Guest commander with dwarven tokens, birds, Bilbos, other Gandalfs, and storm
>Bilbo Retired Burglar deck with a focus on commander damage, evasion, goblin/dwarven tokens, and building treasures to ramp up to Smaug the Magnificent or Cavern Hoard Dragon
>Thorin King of Durin's Folk dwarven tribal with dwarven tokens and building treasures for Smaug the Magnificent or Cavern Hoard Dragon


Wish more would be done with this set. It's really underwhelming. Elves, dragons, and bears got the most love.
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What're your favorite one drop artifacts?
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>>98436223
I have no idea why the average anon on this site feels cucked when they do literally anything.
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>>98436564
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>>98436564
Take the Azula pill
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So. Warcraft UB/SL huh? Are you having fun yet?
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>>98437649
What makes you think that is coming
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>>98437708
Not that anon but it's because hasbro/wizards are doing WoW D&D at the moment so I have seen lots of people speculate that they made a WoW MTG deal as well.
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Is there any word on next year’s UB? I’d venture to guess the obligatory Marvel set will be X-Men, but what of the other 2?
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>>98437242
Bilbo with some other hobbits could work as his audience as he tells the tale of his adventure to them
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>>98437407
I want to build this Azula but I want to make it high B2 or low B3, so do I just stick to single target damage spells and then buffs for Azula? What sort of thing generally gets out of hand too quickly?
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What are some funny/interesting cards for this guy? I already have the homunculus that dupes, but I want some more "on draw" effects besides "make a bird"
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>>98437723
They'll never do it when Hearthstone exists. Blizzard is extremely proprietary with their IP.
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>>98437878
Yeah that's how I feel too but it wont stop people speculating
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>>98437868
The secret tech is picking a good commander instead of this clunky 6 mana brick.
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>>98437170
>Soulful
Banning every card that hurts your fee-fees will not in fact reverse the march of time and make your "quirky" slop piles fun to play again unc.

That aside, people don't play it because of the unlimited game changers and meta. Therefore MLD need to be game changers not some retarded seperate category.
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>>98437878
Blizzard is no longer in charge of their own IP. Microsoft needs to get some return on their investment.

I still dont believe in a Warcraft UB Set. My tips for next years UB sets are The Witcher, Marvel Guardians of the Galaxy and Buffy Vampire Slayer.
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>>98437827
I built her with a bunch of pump spells my deck is pretty easy to deal with since all you have to do is constantly get rid of her.
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>>98438021
>people don't play it because of the unlimited game changers and meta.
Unlimited GCs and the "meta" being all the strategies that are barred from B3 and below is literally the entire purpose and identity of B4.
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Well, another week of people just being utterly unprepared for this deck. The Y'shtola player did almost doom me with an early painful quandary, but once it was removed the entire table just sort of rolled over under an Apex Devastator.

More and more of the games at this store seem to be a mixed bag. There's been a small degree of brain drain as semi-competent players keep getting recruited to the cedh tables.

Of course they aren't competent enough to recognize they're playing a bastardized casino format with 0 deck building agency. But a lot of them at least understood the gameplay fundamentals when they still played casual.
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>>98438058
>competent players move to higher brackets so they don't have to deal with hurting some niggers' feelings
color me surprised
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>>98438052
I agree at least on unlimited game changers, and thus MLD cards deserve to be game changers not regulated to bracket 4 only.
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>>98437253
The Chromatic Siblings
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>>98438070
The problem is you have to compromise by playing the absolute worst possible version of the format. Every time I hear "agree to draw" from another table I die inside.
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>>98438093
I'll never understand cedhtroons. They'll flash their hands showing all the counterspells and then agree to a draw. Hello, we aren't playing chess here.
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>>98438093
>worst possible version
subjective but I can see your point, not everyone likes a shallow card pool with limited room for brewing. It's a sacrifice some are willing to make for being allowed to play unfun/broken cards. I do digress that the amount of draws have been increasingly annoying and people should start implementing japan's system where draws award 0 points

Not that I have that problem as I fortunately have three separate groups to play casual, "casino format" and 60-card with. We don't take draws when playing cedh unless there is 100% an unavoidable kingmake scenario.
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>>98437868
it's a deck that makes itself (doesn't sound too much fun imo), just search "when you draw your 2nd card"
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>>98438102
I just can't take it seriously as a "competitive" format. If you go last, your odds of winning go down BY HALF. That's not competitive, that's a fucking joke.

The stack interactions aren't complex so much as cluttered. I've seen far, far more convoluted and skill-testing lines exercised over years of casual commander. If you have four good players on casual decks it's pure fucking bliss.

CEDH is existentially linear. The lines are 100% rehearsed and built around being pushed through semi-telegraphed disruption. You sit down at a table, you know everyone's list at a glance. Casual EDH is, at its best, a much more intelligent game. Which requires adapting to changes in its cadence at any time.

>>98438107
I can understand people wanting to play thee most powerful cards with thee fastest line. But to me it loses its novelty pretty fast. It's special ed legacy or vintage, which have actual merit as formats in my eyes (barring power crept slop they keep drowning in). Especially when you just can't build your own deck. EDH wouldn't exist in the first place if it wasn't the brewer's format.
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>>98437868
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>>98438081
>allow MLD in B3
>B3 just becomes the new B4 containment bracket that people avoid as well
>no longer a bracket for relatively high power casual with a few power cards, either have to make a bracket 2.5 that's just the old B3 or have a massive gap in the brackets
Brilliant.
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>>98438058
Hey King, I'm that Ruby deck similar to your with big splashy spells, how's this guy? I've been considering him but don't know what to switch him out for and if he's even good enough to be a 6 drop.
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>>98438126
Complete conjecture to soothe your own autism, but go off king
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>>98438130
Oh, this deck was built to be very similar in principle to the Ruby/Radha meme decks I've seen floating around. I figured if I built this instead I could cut out the middleman of 500 explosive vegetation effects and just fill it with big mana cards.

I personally wouldn't recommend him in that variant though. He's solid here because when your commander attacks you get a fetch back and she becomes a 7/7 trampler at minimum. He also hits Kessig Wolf run. But in that version of the deck I think your threats actually need to give markedly more card advantage, as your slots are half-filled with ramp.
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>>98438058
/edhg/ should post more cats
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>>98438120
seat order matters in casual too https://playgroup.gg/commander/turn-order
my b3 group also tracked games for some time and seat 1 had a noticeably higher winrate and we started giving seat 2 and seat 3-4 scry 1 and scry 2 respectively at the start of the game
I can't say for others but vintage/legacy is completely dead in our area so cedh remains an only option for some. You can also build your deck, but of course the card pool is very limited; people thought magda wasn't a viable commander and borne upon a wind was unplayable at first
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>>98438154
Of course seat order matters in every level of EDH. But it's absolutely ballbusting in CEDH.
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>>98438162
can't argue with that, maybe someday they'll fix it somehow by giving a free scry or some shit
I dunno, fuck tournaments, I just play chill cedh with my mates
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>>98438146
No
1,000,000,000,000 years UB argument
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>>98438154
guys im starting to think the format where they gave combat and burn decks 110 more life to chip through wasnt well thought out
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>>98438212
But can we have more "waaahh brackets suck because I want to shit on unprepared casuals with MLD" episodes?
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>>98438238
>"waaahh brackets suck because I want to shit on unprepared casuals with MLD"
when are they ever going to get prepared
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>>98438238
No because that post outs you as a schizo
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>>98438141
I see what you're saying but I have 17 of those ramp effects for the 2-4-7 so that I have at least one of those in my hand turn 1. I feel like I wouldn't have one without like at least 15 of them, maybe it's too much.
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>>98438248
No, no. That's not an indictment against the deck. You're correct. That's how the strategy functions. Turn 2 Radha/Ruby, Turn 3 veggies, Turn 4 value piece. I'm just saying Gladiolus isn't as productive in that build so I wouldn't recommend it for that reason.

The decks have the same game plan, but how they get there informs deckbuilding construction.
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>>98438238
Actually obsessed. Just stop gatekeeping the cards
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>>98438146
tasty magic cards
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literally just run basics retard, if it ruins your game you are paying for your greed
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Fuck lands
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>>98438254
Also, I have like 8 card draw spells/engines, not including things like Cascade/Discover/Etali effects. I might replace one of the ramp effects for another card draw one.
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>Maldhound says blasphemous act is overrated and he cuts it because it's more fun to let everyone do the thing than stop them
Why is this fag so retarded?
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>>98438310
balding
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>>98438310
he thinks nature's lore effects are bad, part of being a content creator in EDH is thinking so long about the game that you loop back around to completely insane takes
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>>98438305
I'm uncertain. If you want the list looked at I can give recommendations, though it is a pretty straightforward concept.
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>>98437827
- easy.
just limit the deck to avatar only cards.
- on theme and should hit the bracket you want
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>build a deck I think will be fun for a 3
>Put it into good ole commander salt to see what it says as a baseline
>Baseline 3
>Realistic 1
Guess I'll go die
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>>98438344
Commander salt is a meaningless metric with a retarded AI that scrapes Reddit comments.
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>>98438348
speaking truth to power here
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Arcane Denial is the ultimate casual commander IQ test. If you're good at the game you understand that it's one of the best 2-mana counterspells in the format.
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>>98438358
even if your down a card
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>>98438336
Pic related, I have the top 3 cards for replacements.
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>>98438241
Presumably when they play Bracket 4, where its an expected part of the meta.
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Just let me bloodmoon precons.
It's an essential core part of my decks strategy.
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>>98436428
Attractive black women are great, it's the ugly ones that are in most art, though.
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>>98438451
It's a solid deck overall for what it's doing. I'm unsure if it needs more card draw engines. You already have a fair number of them. You're more likely to need ways to hit select cards. A lot of your cascaders provide inherent card advantage, so you're always going up in board presence when you tap out for them.

The cards you're proposing are more sidegrades than strict upgrades however. I said my piece on Gladiolus, but Beast Whisperer isn't much better than Soul of the Harvest with how the deck functions. It IS probably better than Garruk's Packleader, although I'm not a huge fan of either in this deck. Particularly when you have multiple "big mana matters" payoffs, which neither play nice with.

I'd say the weakest cards in the deck in terms of big mana investments are
>Kodama of the East Tree
Redundant, cheats from hand and counterfeits your cascade triggers.
>Stonehoof Chieftain
Big but slow, doesn't generate value on its own.
>Boarding Party
Most do-nothing among the cascade cards you have in the deck. Annoyed Altisaur is similar but plays better at cascade for cmc 6 vs 5
>Groundchuck & Dirtbag
Mana doubling seems a bit win-more when the deck's intention is to ramp constantly. If going this route you might consider Regal Behemoth (less power, but gives the Monarch which helps with your card draw issues)
>6-mana Etali
Cute card, but slow and can just get 0 value. Not that I'm saying cut it because he is fun to play.

The deck also notably lacks haste enablers for the section of your deck that cares about attack triggers. This could be deliberate. My deck only runs Anger as I don't want to consistently run roughshod over the table off a lucky cascade. Rhythm of the Wild would likely work well here though.

Frostfang is also much better card draw in a go-wide deck. I don't know if I would consider it here before something like, say, Return of the Wildspeaker.
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>>98438525
if you played bracket 4 you'd know it's not an expected part of the meta because it's dogshit by comparison to what actually happens in bracket 4. decks are both simply running under it and they have all the free interaction to stop it. that's why MLD players are so fucked, they're literally banned from half the brackets and it's functionally unplayable in the brackets it's allowed in.
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>>98438544
Blood Moon/Magus/etc actually should be allowed in B3 so that there is a cost to greedy manabases without actually setting people back on mana.
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>>98438525
>>98438544
>I shouldn't have to play against strategies that aren't fun
Antigamer mentality still that drives away people who like the game if they don't agree to your safe space bullshit. Your a troon, seethe, dilate, ect
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Budgetless sweats use precon Timmies as a shield to hide behind while they fetch into ABUR duals and Triomes. Even the 4-color Fantastic Four precon has 17/37 lands as basics. If anything precons are less impacted by blood moon or back to basics than any player's actual hand-crafted deck.
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>>98438581
>Nooo! I NEED to bloodmoon precons to win! I NEED to! I need the dopamine rush of winning in a childs card game THIS much!
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>>98438584
And they all pretty much come with some mana rocks as well, talismans and signets and whatnot. The bracket system is not well thought out despite the majority of players only playing commander these days.
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>>98436624
Thick curvy radha while she still looked like an elf was my favorite.
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>>98438590
see
>>98438584
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Where are the mystery booster 3 spoilers? I thought they were playing it at gencon for the first time
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>>98438590
>I NEED MY SAFE SPACE GAMEPLAY TO CAST MY FAVORITE 6 COLOR PANGENDER COMMANDER BIGOT
>ITS THE ONLY WAY I CAN CONNECT WITH MY INNER ANDROGENOUS SELF
ok buddy
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>>98438604
Sunday
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>>98438563
>MLD is bad in the bracket its playable in because people build decks that can effectively counter it or minimize its impact
You are SO CLOSE to getting it anon.

>>98438581
Nobody is telling you not to play MLD anon. You can jam all the stax, MLD, whatever you want into your deck! Your deck is just a bracket 4 by definition and you'll be expected to play with other people at your level.
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>>98438607
Thank you. I used to love supplemental sets and this is all I have now.
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>>98438612
>at your level
But it's not at that level. Bracket 4 is borderline CEDH. Blood Moon is not.
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>>98438612
>Bracket 4
So essentially I can't play it yeah we've discussed this already. Dead bracket I've been waiting 1 hr+ this morning to get a game on already.
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>>98438605
>Goes into a full antitroon meltdown because he needs bloodmoon to slowdown precons.
My sides.
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>>98438618
correct
- but get fucked all the same
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>>98438623
It's ok to admit you need all 5 colors to play your favorite FIRE design identity politic commander anon. I'm only judging you a lot for it.
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There is only one boring and gay strategy in EDH and that's combo.
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>>98438621
It's not going to change. Deal it, fuck off, or at the very least stop being a whiny menstruating vagina about it.
>Man, I'm losing to these 3s and precons, I'd totally be winning right now if they just let me play my precious bloodmoon.
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>>98438630
Bloodmoon = chud. Hard confirmed.
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>>98438636
>>98438643
You've stooped to silly strawman arguments and admitted I'm right with your fake hand waving. I accept your concession troon
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>faggots continue to pretend their deck is so weak without mld oh woe is me I'm just a widdle pwayer wunning blood moon why do you wanna send me to bwaket 4 I'm just a small widdle guy
Maybe because I think you smell like unwashed dick, if you want to punish non basic lands in a bracket below 4, quit your crying and look at this. It's a game ender that isn't as gay and retarded as your strategy. Why lock out a player when you can just simply kill them outright
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>>98438645
... gross revision, not even an elf at that point.
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>>98438612
bracket 4 decks are ready to effectively counter and minimize the impact of a craw wurm anon does that mean craw wurm should be banned below b4?
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>>98438663
>>98438630
>>98438605
>It's only okay when I do it.
Someone will let you play your chudmoon at bracket 3 eventually, and you'll lose, and I will be waiting for your new excuse.
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>>98438667
I play Static Orb and Winter Orb in my otherwise terrible Meria deck not because I have to, but because I want to. Also destroying an artifact only costs one mana so it should be fine to leave people with one mana up.
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>>98438700
I'm literally ok with that. My hokori deck is dogshit, and I'm 100% happy to lose with it and my 3 MLD gamechangera fairly because the lock is fun to play when you get it
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>>98438667
Because they are bad players and deck builders anon.
Even though bloodmoon can be played around easily at bracket 4, it's most effective in that bracket 4 and where you want or dare I say, need it the most.
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>>98438667
this does nothing most of the time because the only point of life that matters is the last one
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>>98438714
>My deck is bad, and I need to crutch mld to ever have the possibility to win, which is why I need to be able to play it at the lost possible levels.
To say I am shocked is a gross overstatement.
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new thread when?
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>>98438680
She still has elven facial features: sharp jaw and cheekbones, high slanted eyes, etc. Picrel is the first instance where she really starts to lose them, whvih isba shame cayse she's at maximum curves here (before she just goes fat).
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>>98438735
Hokori itself is classified as MLD, it's not a crutch I cannot play the deck itself in b3
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>>98435333
Are you a PGHanon? I was literally there when that pic was taken. Fucking basketball shorts golem
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Is there no spell that makes creatures produce mana when they hit someone?
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>>98438775
Only thing i can think of close to that is bear totem where if you hit somebody with the aura creature in combat it untaps your lands
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>>98438775
Best I can do off the top of my head is Sakiko and Druids' Repository.
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>>98438775
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>>98438782
>Only thing i can think of close to that is bear totem where if you hit somebody with the aura creature in combat it untaps your lands
Sword of feast and famnine also does this on combat damage.
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You guys know brackets are just a guideline, right? Even in the original article it tells you to just talk to your playground about exceptions and allowances. If you want to run MLD in bracket 3, all you have to do is say "Hey guys, this deck is technically a 4 because its got some some MLD, but otherwise it plays like a 3. Is that cool?"
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>>98438751
that art and weight still implies orc to me.
gruul girls use to have a certain aesthetic...
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>>98438775
There's a couple equipments that make treasures when the equipped creature connects.
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>>98438782
Nah, bear umbra is better than that. It's just on attack you get all your lands back.
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Someone can help me fix my deck, please?

https://moxfield.com/decks/6cu890e6M0CMM3VePAxlKQ
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>>98438836
you failed to consider that edh players are all sheep and if you say you have MLD but that it's appropriately leveled to 3 they are still going to say "oh okay ill match it" and pull out their CEDH deck.
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>>98438850
>Y'shtola
No
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>>98438850
your litterally on a site that offers fixes...
also add a primer to your deck so we can get the jist of what your goin for, or at least a descriptor...
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>>98438850
>Bracket 2
>Off color fetches
I think some more utility creatures be better than just all out slinging and slanging.
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>THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO AGAINST MLD UNLESS I HAVE FAST MANA AND FREE COUNTERSPELLSSSSSSSSSS
You can try establishing a better (ideally growing) board state before it goes off. You can threaten to counter or remove whatever parity break the MLD is using. You can parity break it yourself. You can sandbag and save cards for rebuilding after half your opponents get BTFO for over-extending. MLD is only a problem because people have been allowed to just never think about it. It would be exactly the same if creature board wipes were arbitrarily banned for a period of time and then people tried to reintroduce them.
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>>98438836
I've never had these rule 0 discussions go like that, at absolute best it is extreme passive aggressive responses about
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>>98438887
We're just not gonna play with you bro. lol.
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>>98438887
Holy shit you autistic retard. It's bracket 4. Learn to deal with it.
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>>98438554
Hey thanks for the recommendations!
You're definitely right about those cards. I'm going to see about changing Kodama, Boarding party, and Groundchuck. I like that Stonehoof protects my guys and Etali is pretty fun.
I don't have Behemoth, but I have Dawnglade Regent.
I'm thinking of swapping top with bottom. Two more card draw cards, some more value and a haste enabler.
I also have a craterhoof, maybe I should add that too? I don't have Return of the wild speaker or Rhythm of the wild though.
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>>98438914
Groundchuck & Dirtbag for Frostfang is "ok." Probably a small upgrade. Their mana doubling is redundant, whereas the snake's card draw is not. I do believe you'll brush up against having not that many creatures on board at a time, but even then your creatures ARE big and trample-y, so they do interact nice with deathtouch so it's probably alright. Even drawing 2-3 cards a turn is a decent refuel.

Dawnglade Regent isn't a bad pick either. Nor is the Godmaw, even if it is slow. Lack of fetches makes it way way weaker. That being said I actually think in vacuum circumstances it's better than Craterhoof for your deck. Specifically with turning redundant ramp spells into a reason to get damage in.

Not to downplay Craterhoof however. It IS strong and can kill the entire out of nowhere. It's a meme card for a reason. And you do run Avenger and Omnath. But with how high the deck's curve is I don't think it's a super-reliable kill. Plus 8 mana for a one-off +4/+4-ish overrun effect isn't where you want to be.

The Godmaw meanwhile gives vigilance. So any time you play a land for turn you can get away with swinging in for free while not letting your shields down.

I still wouldn't include Gladiolus thougheverbeit. Hard-casting him in that deck seems like it'd feel really bad.
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I want to win with Barren Glory.
I though about oblivion ringing one and then casting apocalypse but I got surprised by the low amount of "exile it until ~ leaves the battlefield" effects that can target your stuff.
I hate all these "target X an opponent controls" cards; that, and asymmetrical effects.
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>>98438310
Playing to lure young men home, not win.
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>>98438974
Please understand, retards kept accidentally Fiend Hunter-ing their own creatures with misclicks on MTGO/Arena forget where it was posted but this is the actual stated reason they moved in that direction lmao
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>>98438829
I always forget about the sword of sneed and feed honestly
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>>98438841
>it's just on attack
Well fuck, I should really consider that card at some point in a Naya deck
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>>98438887
Mld golem get ye gone
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>>98439013
That's also the reason "Target player draws" got shifted to just "draw".
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>>98438887
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>>98438310
>untap
>upkeep
>board wipe
Making hoes mad in EDH since 2009.
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Singles for my mill deck arrived a week early. I was going to bring it to casual commander at my LGS. its firmly bracket 2 Phenrax but ive never played there before. Im fine getting focused early but I dont want anyone getting actually upset, particularly when the curve is as shitty as it is. I could bring my shitty Eluge deck too but idk if thats any better.
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>>98438850
Help you fix it how?
Seems like a 2. Bit of a try hard 2, but a 2
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>>98439232
Fix for that. We only play with a close friend group and we just play without 2 combo cards and no gamechangers.
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>>98439276
Put in 2 card combos, infinites and game changers and it will no longer be a 2.
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>>98439283
That's not what i meant.....
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>>98438970
For the snake, I was thinking 1 or 2 cards a turn is pretty good.
Godmaw is pretty cool too because it's kind of sneaky in a way, unlike hoof who is a huge target.
Yeah, I don't have as many fetches as I should, maybe sell the craterhoof to get a fetch would be the play.
I like Gladiolus because he also ramps and into lands that are not just basics.
When I get better spells like Phyrexian Etali, I'll swap him out.
Thank you!
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>>98438310
because it gets them clicks
also buy an ad
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>>98438310
youtubers say retarded shit on purpose as bait, but the edhsphere of youtube has been trying to push a 'boardwipes are bad mmkay' narrative for awhile now.
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yeah I hear tubers saying shit like elvish piper is shit because you could just cast a ramp spell to get the mana to cast the big thing next turn anyway. all the while ignoring the fact that when you activate elvish piper you still have man left over to CAST MORE SHIT
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>>98439442
If you care about playing more magic "overall" then yeah, they are bad, they just drag the game out. Just let the board leader win and shuffle up.
If you care about winning THAT game, they are good.
The shituber sphere is trying to make people believe winning isn't the end all be all, don't be afraid to just lose and move on to the next.
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What is your favorite commander that came in a commander product?
>pic related
>one of the OGs
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>>98439526
I really like Tariel even though she's kind of a turd.
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>>98439563
Yeah. I think that was in the original Kaalia deck, and it was strong cheating it out.
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>>98439526
Skullbriar is a close runner up
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I really want to larp as Dio with one of the Obeka cards as my commander and make a shit ton of copies of this garbage and that vehicle toss card from the marvel set
Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk
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>>98439442
Tbf you shouldn’t be using board wipes that clear the entire board if you can help it. Whenever I’m optimising a deck I always try to put in asymmetrical wipes that barely touch my own shit or not at all.
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>>98439526
Master Formed Anew, though before that it was Mairsil. I need to do a deep dive on scryfall and find some strange build-around creatures for him some day. It'll be hard to make something cohesive-feeling as Cellarspawn, though.
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>>98439914
While that is true I'd argue pretty strongly that red in particular doesn't have the same luxury on asymmetric creature sweepers other colors do. Delayed Blast Fireball or Mizzium Mortars are the best you've got but they won't kill important targets a good number of the times you need to. Blasphemous act is often red's only way out of a gigantic gummed up board.
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My board wipes are killing players
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>>98439975
Run fliers
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>>98439442
I'm gonna play my big slow creatures by tapping mana (the fair and honest way) and if I gotta blow up everyone elses shit 5 times so be it.
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https://archidekt.com/decks/24887241/stompy_burn
Any suggestion on what might tweak this to be better (other than the mana base, they're just place holders because getting every dual land is really annoying.)

>What's its end goal?
Try and get enough mana to drop the
Apex Altisaur onto the board, then fight the entire board to then exile my entire deck with Expedient Inheritence, then play my entire deck, and then using trickery with Fury of the hordes and cards that return cards from the graveyard to my library and damage that can be dealt to my own creatures to keep exiling them, to keep playing them to keep untapping lands and/or a big dork to keep playing them until everyone is dead through burn, actual combat damage, or if push comes to shove keep copying etali to just mill everyone to death.
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>>98439526
Junding since 2013.
I need a new deckpic i think this is 3 cards out of date looking at it close
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>>98437266
It's bizarre because chances are high they've never gotten their dicks wet in the first place
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>>98440352
Use Overpowering Attack instead of fury of the hordes, it does the same thing and is 2 mana cheaper.
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why does it feel like most of the background commanders only have one good background imo
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>>98440431
There's a limited number of actually good background in general. Wish we would get another batch of both creatures and backgrounds.
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abdel secret tech
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>>98440431
Many of them have none. It was made for limited, so it supported your deck doing more than one thing with the limited cards you drafted.
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>>98440440
What's the tech? Not ever getting your own stuff back?
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>>98440443
doesn't work that way
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>>98440352
Just build it with etali as the commander you idiot.
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>>98440440
im sick and tired of this guy, he always does the same thing its just a busted textbox
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>>98440461
No
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>>98440431
I'm just grateful for Haunted One. Wilson golgari bear tribal soon.
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>>98440431
>When it just makes a mono red deck.
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>>98440452
Yeah, fair, it's srill the same permanent. Regardless, what's the tech?
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>>98439526
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>>98440599
they never don't not take the draw.... you just win from the command zone
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>Watch a big shituber
>Pays for a rhystic tax with a mana rock he just played that triggered the rhystic in the first place.
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>>98440713
That would actually be great troll content desu senpai
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Reminder that telling people Dockside Extortionist is banned is missing the point of the format.
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>>98440757
This guy just doesn't get Garfield's vision of magic the gathering. Arguing about how rules interactions work should be half the game.
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>>98440757
I don't get what the image has to do with your post
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>ban most of the banlist
>bring back the old tuck rule
>bring back the old legendary rule
>ban UB by default

There. I fixed the format.
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>>98440713
>shit tuber doesn’t know that Rhystic is a cast trigger and so he can’t use the mana rock he just cast to pay the mana because it isn’t a permanent yet
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>>98440773
We can smell your pulsating and rotting neo vagina from here.
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>>98440778
Why are you just repeating what I said
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>>98440770
BSky poster ranting about how a time they were told Dockside is banned so they can't play it.
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>>98440489
SHUTTUP HAUNTED ONE SUCKS
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>>98440916
NEW THREAD
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>>98438836
I've been explaining that for over a month now to a friend I recently got into the game. It's impossible, I cannot get him to understand this basic principle in English, these are the "rules" he sees so they're the rules he will follow. He is a hardcore liberal, literally a homosexual, why are those types such bootlickers at all the worst times? I have no idea.



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