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Deep cuts edition

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What are your impressions so far of the mystery booster commander card spoilers?
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>Tq
They are niche, and won't shake the meta, but they have a lot of FUN potential.
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>TQ
So far it peaked my interest and they look fun which matters more than power
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>TQ
They're fun and I don't care that she's kinda mid, I want to make a cool angel deck now
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>mana burn rules change turns his card into a powerhouse instead of a joke
>now promoted to evincar
Things are looking up for our boy Davvol.
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>>98450346
>Tq
surprisingly good choices for old names without cards, mixed with some nice new ones. Anons will inevitably call them reddit or some shit.
It's really not in anyway worth what WoTC is going to charge for them but that's secret-lair tier products in general.
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>>98450385
it's all to pay him back for forgetting his birthday
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>>98450385
He was the first evincar of Rath anon. He tried to starscream croag and got left to die when that failed. He could technically be alive somewhere.
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>I will play them because they are fun, not because they are good
Never going to make it
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>>98450411
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>>98450411
it's a lot easier to make decks for fun when you have a serious deck to back it up when people get sweaty and uppity
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>>98450346
>TQ
disappointed in their decision to only produce 8 new future sight border prints with the rest being reprints from Mystery Booster 2.
commanders look interesting but I fear most are too cute even for bracket 2 these days.
some solid common and uncommon reprints. rare reprints are ass though.
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>>98450411
Bad chefs make good ingrediants taste bad.
Good chefs make good ingrediants taste good.
Great chefs make bad ingrediants taste good.
Hope this helps, and now I'm literally going to clown on you swing with Jester, trigger.
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>>98450453
Tasha's Hideous Laughter does not, in fact, make you clever. I still respect it anyway.
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>>98450396
is there a comic or a book about him?
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>>98450411
Yes anon, you play 2s and 3s to have fun.
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>>98450411
You take something not top-tier and optimize it. That's the fun. Consider it a challenge.
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>>98450491
Hello I posted in the dead thread cause I'm stupid
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>>98450509
The acorn stamp means they are alchemy cards. AKA, digital cards on arena.
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>okay so you know how I have a really beautiful wife?
>now imagine how much cooler it would be if instead of fucking her I let Brad Pitt, Henry Caville and Chris Hemsworth fight over who go to fuck her instead?
That's it, that's the card design
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>>98450536
Once again, /edgh/ lets their cuck fetishes seep out.
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This is dumb and cute. I love it.
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>>98450509
Acorn stamps are effectively the same as the old grey border cards. They are not legal in any format outside of the limited environment they're printed into although theoretically you could "rule 0" the use of them into your pod. Generally cards that are grey border/acorn stamps have rules text on them that doesn't play nice outside of unsets or is digital only
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>>98450495
isnt ekthi just a shitty sokka and suki?
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>>98450536
I was stoked about this card until I realized there's no incentive for anyone to choose anything higher than 0. No one gets punished for not having the highest number. It needs a "Goblin Game" way to punish those not willing to pay up
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>>98450543
Listen buddy I didn't design the card and I shant be playing it
>>98450587
It's better because it can go in my cloud living weapon tribal deck
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>>98450536
The fact that you can see the vision is why you're low IQ.
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>>98450587
It's better because it's not UBslop
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>>98450495
people play 2s and 3s to win too because playing cedh all the time with fake cards can be tiring after a while
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>>98450616
This wouldn't win against a modern precon.
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>>98450346
>TQ
Hate the tribalshit.
Love the cardless character references.
Hate most of the card effects.
Overall with draft it digitally and maybe build one of them.
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>>98450536
You forgot to include your forced groomers of the coast spiel
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>>98450625
i just like his flavor text
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>>98450346
>TQ
A lot of these cards really look interesting. A variety of effects and ideas that look like they'd be fun to try. But I'm concerned they could be fucking insufferable to actually get and play if they don't get a real on shelf release.
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>>98450495
I like zagorka but I don't think I need a second Temur deck... Idk maybe if I pull one I'll see if I like her over ureni for my big mana etbs deck. For AEB I was looking over legendary creatures you can play on curve in gruul and there's way more than I thought, but Alex Wilder is probably one of the better ones since he'll haste and buff it. Mister Immortal is a vanilla on the board but hes basically a Squee in green. Tasha, redshift, torgal, bugenhagen and Ruby are all ramp for your later casts and rograak is obviously a free legendary if it's in your hand. Unfortunately the only 1 mana legendary that taps for mana is Freya and she can only use that mana for equips so if you want a turn two AEB you need sol ring > 2 mana rock turn 1 and a 1 or 2 mana legendary
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>>98450625
I think it can, just not a lot of people would be willing to look into older commanders for it.
At a glance: a lot of mana rocks/card draw, boardwipes and incremental damage, some damage doublers on top of it. He can work as a finisher to a mono-red control/group slug deck as he can be cast to instantly take someone out once they're low enough.
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Rulebreaker text allowing more colors only for enabling specific strategies is actually the best and only way 5 color commanders should be implemented going forward.
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>>98450587
Sort of. But it's mono white so I'm more interested in it personally.
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>>98450593
Exactly. It would still be bad if it said "everyone takes damage equal to the number they revealed" but it would be a little better. Also it should say "1 or higher" not 0 that's so stupid
>>98450595
The problem with this idea is that if you try to rig the game in your favor at all your opponents now just have no reason to engage with the bidding mechanic at all.
>>98450638
I'm not that guy I'm sorry I think he's a freak
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>>98450690
>The problem with this idea is that if you try to rig the game in your favor at all your opponents now just have no reason to engage with the bidding mechanic at all.
It requires the candle player to have the spell in-hand. You're playing off limited information, and you're going to feel like a complete fucking moron not bidding for a big spell when one of your opponents got it for 1 life and the candle player's controller only copied it instead of stealing it. Now two players are ahead with huge advantage and you're way behind because you tried being too clever for your own good.
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>tq
Waste of paper. Bunch of bracket 1 redditor commanders that are supposed middle aged manchildren clap their fat paws at memberberties. Only 2-4 commanders you can build a playable (not being a goofy quirk chungus meme fuck trying to force the table to go along with your shit humor) deck around or put into the 99.

Overall disappointing. Most players aren't going to be interested in it.
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>>98450593
>no incentive for anyone to choose anything higher than 0

The incentive is a free spell. You get to see the three cards before you choose your # and the highest # gets to cast the spell.
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>>98450703
>Now two players are ahead with huge advantage and you're way behind because you tried being too clever for your own good.
And you know what the thing is in both your scenarios? The guy who comes out on top is never the candle player. If you create a play pattern where people will expect they're not getting the value out of the cards you exile you're just spending extra resources and somebody who isn't you is still casting your spells for free. The "upside" is you get to play mind games and get... Nothing
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>>98450714
Again the problem is here that all the upside you're describing is for your opponents the candle man player is getting nothing, dealing X amount of damage to a single opponent is nothing.
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>>98450715
The fact that you can't conceive of how this lets you come out on top tells me you don't actually play EDH.
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>>98450593
They shouldn't get a chance to see what the exiled cards are before they pick
They could hit a rhystic, or a C sphinx, or an omniscience, or they could hit lands. Are you willing to risk life for a free bomb?

and/or
If everyone picks zero you get to cast two if the three without paying its mana cost.
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I think /edhg/ would complain about the new commanders no matter what they did. All anons do here is bitch and moan.
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>>98450722
Okay so describe it to me. Tell me what I'm missing about this complete dog shit and how I should build around it that it doesn't just become "omg tee hee I let my opponent cast time warp and he killed me haha oh what a hoot"
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>>98450729
Nah, a fair bit of us are excited about these new cards.
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>>98450729
I actually love a lot of the cards the candle man is just absolutely atrocious
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>>98450721
Candleman gets one of the cards not selected.

I also disagree that dealing X damage to an opponent is nothing.
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So many people are saying he's so bad and dogshit, i think this is going to be one of those times where after the dust settles he'll actually become a very powerful card when "pros" figure out something we are just missing through the trees looking for the forest.
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>>98450765
You do an undetermined amount of damage to a single player (or 0 if your opponents are smart) and then somebody still gets to cast the best thing in the pile and you get ONE of them you don't even get both. If you want to build a bad commander just build a bad commander but don't pretend there's some secret sauce about atrocious dog shit
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>>98450777
if all opponents choose 0 nobody has the highest number so they don't get to cast a spell from the pile for free
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>>98450794
Right, then its just a bad draw effect.
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There are posters in the commander general who have somehow not heard of a joke commander or meme deck that isn't necessarily trying to win
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>>98450777
>or 0 if your opponents are smart

Why are all your opponents choosing zero? Earlier someone just complained about timewarp being cast.

You think no one would try to pay some life for a timewarp?
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>>98450802
pretty much yeah, especially since you telegraph your plans even more in telegraphed b2
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My gripe with this set is that there's no literal who legend that was mentioned in a flavor text in og mirrodin block once. I want mirrodin back so bad bros, new phyrexia sucks balls.
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>>98450346
>TQ: What are your impressions so far of the mystery booster commander card spoilers?
They did my girl dirty.
>no thick thighs
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>>98450822
It's a preexisting art from another card from decades ago.
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>>98450729
>Commander requires you to build around it
UGH, boring commander if you kill it the deck does nothing
>Commander is independent value engine
UGH, boring commander just makes endless value so you have to kill it on sight

I'm starting to think /edhg/ doesn't realize the text on cards is supposed to do something.
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>>98450712
Be glad they suck when this set is such a limited print run.
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>>98450794
Incorrect, reread the card. You choose AN opponent with the highest number. If there's a tie you choose who wins the tie. No matter what you have to let someone have the choice
>>98450805
Okay so why are playing time warp in your "haha please play my cards" deck? Do you think most players aren't going to pay 10+ life to kill you and whoever else over two turns? Is that really worth bad card draw?
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>>98450843
menacing ogre doesn't get counters if everyone chooses zero, same with candleman
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>>98450843
>Okay so why are playing time warp in your "haha please play my cards" deck? Do you think most players aren't going to pay 10+ life to kill you and whoever else over two turns? Is that really worth bad card draw?

You answered your own question.
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>>98450865
Yes I KNOW because I know it's dog shit I'm not the one defending candle man
>>98450862
You should reread both cards and tell me what the difference is
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>>98450346
>TQ
Thoroughly uninterested in most of the cards, but I have been waiting for a non-UB two color monarch legend so I appreciate this dude existing even if he's a clunky 6 mana goober.
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>>98450875
>everyone chose zero so wheel of misfortune will do something
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>>98450729
His card is just not very good. Do you play this deck or do you play a 5C dungeons deck? https://mtg.wiki/page/Shandalar_Enemy_Decks_(Arzakon)
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>>98450411
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>>98450885
azarkon is just 5c dihada cedh
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>>98450536
Were you the weirdo that posted about how UB was like having a nigger fuck your wife a few threads back too? Are you OK, anon?
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>>98450712
could've been viashino
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>>98450729
I'm just going to disagree with you on princible
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>>98450912
Okay Mark. I know you're ready to rotate Vintage again.
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>>98450885
you gotta love magic as richard garfield intended
>the most powerful cards ever put to paper
>with its wincon, erg raiders
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Currently losing my FUCKING mind right now. I've wanted to make Battle of Wits work for so long but it was never possible
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>>98450385
What can you actually do with this? You can't even go infinite.
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>>98450947
If you take too long shuffling I WILL time you
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>>98450947
Him and this are the most interesting of the new rule breaker cards.
How good having a 250+ card deck will be in practice. Who knows.
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>>98450885
>dihada with counterspells and displacer kitting
>bad
Lmao babby take of the century
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>>98450963
d'oh
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>>98450947
Is there any sort of official ruling if someone shows up with a 10,000 card deck? Like do you auto lose if you cannot reasonably shuffle your own deck?
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>>98450947
What if you run trench gorger and exile 8 million lands?
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>>98450972
I can't remember if official rules are in place but someone made a Battle of Wits deck many years ago and (I *think*) got disqualified because he couldn't shuffle his deck "in a timely manner" or something to that effect
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>>98450972
In a tourney setting, I believe games are timed, so you'd concede every game in the match before you could reliably "shuffle to randomization."
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>>98450890
>>98450968
how is it in any way comparable to dihada
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>>98450947
>>98450972
I hate that these cards likely won't come to arena where the digital shuffler could actually allow you to reasonably play an absurdly high deck count.
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>>98450905
No Im not racist, I don't have bbc psychosis and I don't hate ub on principle I just really hate cuckolds and bad card design!!!
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I sense a Tabak clarification on the candleman because there's no way that a card clearly intended to make opponents bid life is just going to be reduced to the player giving away a random card to an opponent for 0 damage
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>>98450990
I don't think it would be that bad trying to shuffle 250 cards, though, I keep saying 250 because that is the limit I think it would be playable, shuffling aside.
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>>98450993
Most people don't see a politics or "gift" commander and think "cucking" other than the mentally deranged.
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>>98451010
Okay but this one is just really bad even as far as gift commanders go it's so terrible
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>>98451024
Okay. A bad card doesn't equate to cockoldry, and if you think it does, then doth protest too much.
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>>98450947
a literal minion
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>>98451032
I don't actually think it does but the concept of the cuckold commander post was too funny not to post I was laughing my ass off in the car waiting to post it when I got home
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>>98450536
I'm not a gay cuck BUT if I had a wife and henry caville fucked her I'd get jealous he didn't fuck ME
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>>98450972
>In tournaments, you must be able to shuffle your entire deck within a reasonable amount of time
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>ub set gets spoilers
>90% of the commanders are 10/10s
>UW set releases early at a con
>99% of it is unplayable meme trash
UB always wins.
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>>98451094
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>>98451094
Hey remember when WotC was like "oh wow guys we kinda went overboard with creature types we're gonna stop and minimize bloat moving forward"? Am I the only one?
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>>98451101
Kinda hard with UB. Are they just going to call Vulcans elves?
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>>98451101
While true, he is at least a rogue so you can have rogue synergy, that's better than just having a totally one off creature
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>>98451104
They're not going to, but they should.
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>>98451104
They could just make them aliens.
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>>98451104
honestly yes
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This was a few dollars 2 years ago, what the hell happened?
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>>98450556
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>>98451162
it's a good card with absolutely atrocious pulls
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>>98451162
>around 8bux
>spiked after Foundations released
Now hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm anon, I wonder what released in that set?
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>>98451164
I don't like whatever it is you're implying with that image.
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>>98451162
>jumpstart
Nobody likes these shit packs so whenever a jumpstart exclusive card sees a tiny amount of play their price skyrockets.
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>>98451186
>he doesn't know
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>>98450346
>What are your impressions so far of the mystery booster commander card spoilers?
Not looking at them because they will be so expensive due to scarcity that they might as well be heroes of the realm. I'll wait for the next UB slop that us poor peasants are given, I guess,
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>>98451186
You need to be at least 18 years old to post here. Anyone who's spent any amount of time online knows this joke.
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>>98451206
That "joke" is like two decades old m8
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>>98451206
>You need to be at least 18 years old to post here. Anyone who's spent any amount of time online knows this joke.
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>>98451210
n-no, that can't be right....
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>>98451241
I look like this and say this
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>>98451210
Hahaha. Yeah your telling me I've been on this stupid site for that long. Lmao. Get real nigga.
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/update-to-tolabow-loch-rascals-rules-text


Hahahahahahajajahahahahahahhahahaah
*wheeze*
Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahh
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>>98451273
I'll never see these in person so who cares
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>>98451273
All of this could have been avoided if they simply wrote "choose a color" in the card text like they should have.
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>>98451273
You were not wheezing while typing this
Why lie?
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>>98451273
How motherfucking stupid do you even have to be to not understand how it was printed???
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My battle of wits dreams....
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>>98451305
Bro I legit got into a heated debate in the LGS discord about this and I was right. Feels so vindicating.
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>>98451273
This was really straight forward. What the hell did people THINK it meant?
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>>98451273
I don't get how this was confusing to people.
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>>98451273
>cool, you can have a deck built around cards that are blue and one other color.
NOPE PICK ONE COLOR IN DECKBUILDING
>oh, well at least since it's color instead of color identity you can try to do something fun with things like flashback or kicker costs
NO WE CAN'T LET THESE CARDS HAVE ANY INTERESTING DESIGN SPACE
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>>98451330
If you read the text in a literal sense, as you ough to read a magic card, it very much suggests that you can run uw, ub, ur and ug instants and sorceries if this is your commander. Just because your brain filled in the gaps in this shit wording doesn't mean it wasn't shit wording.
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>>98451330
They thought it meant you could run amy Azorius sorcery, any Ozzet sorcery, etc as long as it had blue in the color and any other color.

>>98451334
I think the main reason it was confusing was it said you could run all basic lands and frankly honestly the lack of the word "choose" in the text was an unforced error by wotc
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>>98451350
It doesn't at all. How does pick one equal pick five?
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>>98451273
>this is a functional change to the text as it was originally printed
That's hilarious. They admitted that, as written, the card didn't function how the people who work for the company designing cards wanted it to.
I can't fucking believe how incompetent these fags are. This isn't an oversight like Marath was or a simple mistake like a typo is. This is straight up 'we don't know how the rules of our own game work'. Are there other examples beyond this and Serra Paragon?
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>>98451354
It didn't say pick one though. That's the problem.
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>>98451358
>ONE additional color means I can have four additional
If you were confused by this card then you genuinely are stupid

Signed 85 fucking IQ and I got it.
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>>98451334
>>98451330
>the color identity of instant and sorcery cards in your deck can include one color of your choice not in your commander's color identity
This line very much implies you could have any spell that was UX, just not UXY etc.
How its written implies the choice is made per spell, not per color as a whole.

I knew they would have to clarify, and was more leaning with the way they did clarify, but I was very much open to the idea I could be wrong. Not the first time I've printed a card that was written in a way they didn't intend.
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>>98451370
>This line very much implies you could have any spell that was UX, just not UXY etc.
No it doesn;t
ONE indicates ONE
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>>98451368
They admitted that the rules text they have printed now is a functional change to the text as it was originally.
As written it did NOT work the way it works now.
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>>98451356
This is what happens when you release a joke set
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>>98451368
I can see the 85 iq thing being accurate if you truly can't understand how it reads both ways.
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>>98451371
If you say so, but no, it does imply that. Which is why so many people were getting it wrong, and they felt the need to clarify.
Don't know why you're seething about it, but your life must just be that dull.
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Even if you ignore the UX option the card as originally written would allow something like Ancient Grudge in a deck where you choose red since it's a monored card outside of color identity. It's a fuckup no matter how you look at it.
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>>98450588
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>>98451356
>Are there other examples beyond this and Serra Paragon?
Serra Paragon doesn't have errata or any rulings on the card. What are you on about?
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my lgs is filled with mouthbreathers
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>>98451458
Technically, there ARE cards in the set that require Rule Zero discussion, but only the acorn ones.
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New shovels in today.
Wish he didn't give Jinx big tits, but it was free. Guess I'm a Braids main now.
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>>98450346
>TQ: What are your impressions so far of the mystery booster commander card spoilers?
Lots of very cool stuff that tickles my fancy as a boomer and Vorthos. It's just a damn shame I'll have to proxy any of it I want to play. WotC doesn't want to give me the opportunity to show support for the parts of Magic that don't suck, I guess.
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>>98451467
Good grief. Kill yourself.
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>>98451356
The yugification process has begun
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>>98451467
>all mana symbols and P/T pane replaced with hearts
Tacky
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>>98451467
Buh buh buh BASED
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>>98451460
he meant in terms of power, not the goofy arena cards
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I can't wait until moistcritikal buys all of the mystery boxes and they end up costing 10 grand in a month
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>>98451467
>Why does no one in the pod want to play with me again!?
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>>98451480
lol LGS randoms say the darndest things
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>>98451485
Because they're woke libtards?
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>>98451480
wut
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>>98451491
Ah, a Final Fantasy pod, how tragic.
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>>98451485
People in my regular pod, and regular lgs find them funny.
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>>98451488
One of the retards was saying Garth and Arzakon need to be game changers because Black Lotus is banned and they make Black Lotuses
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>wotc finally makes some interesting non-UB commanders
>nothing too broken, but lots of new decks to build
>in a limited edition product that no one will get
>even the shitty/low popularity ones will be expensive as fuck
Bro I hate it here. Why do I even play this game.
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>>98451356
Yes. Secret Arcade. Wasa new card made for the Aminatou veil-piercer deck.

It... does not work with Aminatou
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>>98451498
I agree
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>>98451501
this retard thread yesterday ensured me none of these would be expensive and somehow would end up cheaper than jumpstart products despite having like 1/1000th the availability.
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>>98451480
>1 thumbs up
That commander folds to a board wipe so hard to the point where its a nothing burger commander.
>>98451501
They won't. Its getting a larger release in october.
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>>98451467
>Shovels
>Just a bunch of bimbos
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>>98451507
Does "larger release" mean readily available at big box stores or 1 box sent to WPNs and that's it?
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>>98451471
Magic has been becoming more and more like yugioh ever since they gave Jace and Chandra weeb art.
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>>98451501
>>98451506
These cards are going to be worthless if you're patient. You're insane.
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>>98451515
As much of a release as the last mystery boosters that are still all over the place.
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>>98451186
>>98451241
This place has been green reddit for years
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>Braids was unbanned before Zesty Elf.

Fucking why!?
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wotc has come a long way since the jew-ery of From the Vault
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>>98451519
Supply and demand
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>>98451524
Zesty elf trivializes mana production. Braids is nowhere near as oppressive as they used to be now that literally everything shits out tokens and
>4cmc mono commander
>playable
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>>98451519
The bad ones will probably drop to $5 but anything "good" will be $100~ easy
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>>98451528
These cards are not going to be high-demand. Your average commander player could not give less of a shit about legendaries that don't do thing, draw card.
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>>98451538
Not stopping shit in marvel jumpstart from being 40+ Your argument is still that these will be more widely available than jumpstart. That is objectively false. You are arguing these will be cheaper despite higher demand and lower supply. That is nonsense
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>>98451537
Gonna screenshot this, and post an update to the prices in december, right or wrong.
In case you are wrong, hope you don't mind being laughed at.
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>>98451542
You do not understand supply and demand.
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>>98451531
Turn 1-2 Braids is still pretty nasty, and turn 1 Braids is still pretty easy in mono black even with the need for some bitterblossom/reassembling skeletons/etc.
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>>98451524
>0.89 cents
vs
>77 dollar RL card
I found your answer.
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>>98451541
>Not stopping shit in marvel jumpstart from being 40+
The cards in the Marvel jumpstart have "strong" effects or generic applications in the 99.
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>>98451546
I understand it just fine.
The demand is not as high as you believe, and the supply will be more than you believe.
We'll see in december.
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>>98451552
They're also steadily downtrending
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>>98451542
If you wanna be a redditor about it sure.

Just going off vibes from other limited/small release commander cards. Especially things that are relevant to popular archetypes like angels.
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>>98451554
You clearly don't since you believe more widely available sets with less commander focused cards will be more.
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>>98451550
If anything it should be the opposite.
>>98451548
>>98451531
Yeah not even with her being your commander. Her getting out early with a deck designed to abuse it is just basically an autoscoop if you don't have or draw an answer within a turn or two. Just a dumb quick unfun way to lose. There is a reason why it was one of the first banned cards in the format.
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>>98451560
Well see. You seem like someone who won't take being proven a retard well.
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>>98451524
They explained it directly when the unban came through: Braids in the 99 is a 4 mana stax piece on a 2 toughness body. Braids in the command zone is a highly telegraphed 4 mana stax piece on a 2 toughness body. Put differently: Either she's in the command zone and everyone at the table knows exactly what kind of game they're signing up for, or she shows up to the party late and causes people grief on their own turn well into the game when she's not even the most bullshit thing you can slap down for 4 mana.
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>>98451467
is Coomer anon back?
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>>98450346
>TQ: What are your impressions so far of the mystery booster commander card spoilers?
Gonna make a Turkish deck
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>>98451607
I fucking hate this image more than any tranny or black aragorn they ever printed
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>>98451605
There were several of us.
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>>98451605
Looks like it's mostly the front to me.
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>>98451607
Oh my god I love this art, it reminds me of all the unhinged ass Foglio art from back in the day
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>>98451607
The uh.... the unmen were living portals. I don't remember them being roaches. What's going on here?
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>>98451519
People will make them expensive. You know nothing, kid.
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>>98451632
They were given roach bodies by someone from the Cabal with a deal to kill Akroma and Phage
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>>98451632
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>>98451607
>Hasan and Asmon
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>>98451607
These faces are 100% trying to depict certain people
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>>98451639
>>98451643
Weird. I've read the Odyssey-Onslaught cycle multiple times and I don't remember the roach jaunt at all. Strikes me as strange to base the card on that rather than their normal portal selves, but it does make for some striking card art, admittedly.
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choose your mono black, 5 mana, planeswalker commander
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>wanted to build a Shadow focused deck for too long
>zero commanders with shadow or cared about shadow, ever
>until this set
I fucking kneel, WotC. I don't care how much of a consoomer I am for buying these cards, I'm just so goddamned happy
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>>98451657
I know next to nothing about the Arcana, but this seems pretty nice
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>>98451501
bro, your proxy?
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>>98451657
Makes you wonder how they are going to deal with:
>XII - Hanged Man
>XXI - The World
Probably Emrakul or something as a gigantic colorless creature.
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never thought I'd see the day my very first commander gets a new version. legitimately speechless
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>>98451657
Fool and Magician are cool. I wonder if the 1 mana value thing is meant to represent the Magician having the Minor Arcana.
Sucks that Hermit is just meme tribal.
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>>98451688
too bad he's SHIT in comparison
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>>98451687
Nah, it's clear they want to make them all furries.
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>>98451700
YOU'RE shit
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>>98451700
He has a bigger downside, which is mechanically more interesting, and a much bigger upside which allow for much deck construction than just voltron shit.
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>>98451467
that Braids is BASED
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>>98451661
>99% of creatures with shadow are in white/black/blue as well
EXALIFTIN
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New video incoming on why Rulebreaker is awful.
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>>98451718
I'm going to build "shuffle my own deck" tribal and follow this person everywhere they go
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Are these fuckass alchemy cards with conjure and perpetual effects really gonna be legal in paper?
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>>98451726
No they aren't.
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>>98451726
>acorn stamp
No
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>>98451718
>get to eliminate one target with a single land drop
Am I supposed to take this as anything but a good thing?
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>>98451661
>will no longer be able to use shadow as my unblockable secret tech

Fuck.
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>>98451726
nah they got the acorn symbol
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I don't know why people sleep on this guy and call him outdated. He wins me so many damn games out of nowhere. Pairs extremely well with Craterhoof and other overrun spells. Did almost 500 damage with it on turn 6, thanks to a damage doubling effect.
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>>98451730
>>98451737
So why waste the paper printing these? Are they just collector bait because they mention power 9 cards?
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>>98451745
Because it's fun? People are allowed to have fun, anon. When's the last time you went outside? Interacted with people in person?? Laughed with friends??? ffs.
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>>98451743
Big dumb green idiots is the meta for winning lower bracket commander games.
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>>98451750
fun is gay
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release her...
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>>98451745
unironically touch grass
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>>98451760
I don't know if this will see the light of day due to the Intensity thing
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>>98451766
it's just exp counters but its per card and can't be proliferated
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>>98450947
>Battle of Wits can finally be used
WHEN WILL IT BE MY TURN???????
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>>98451760
I fucking hate how many cards could have been easily made to function of Alchemy with the most minor of tweaks. But no.
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>>98451745
It's a draft set. They are used for draft. Just like the unsets, and the playtest cards. For fun drafts.
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>>98451687
>XXI - The World
Oh that's easy, that's Time Stop.
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>>98451769
Speed is probably a closer analogy, but yes.
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>>98451657
The Hermit is my favorite tarot card.

Really upset its magic card is wet garbage.
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>>98451776
>Rulebreaker - Your deck can have up to 4 copies of a single card
Which card/deck would this break the most?
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>>98451813
Take the clone pill.
>t1 Hedron Crab
>t2 whatever
>t3 Homer
>t4 land, mill 4, Stunt Double on Homer
>t5 another clone effect on Homer, fetchland, everyone mills 8 three times (24), crack it, another 24
>t6 anything you can like Summer Bloom, Cruicible/Azuza, a 4cmc ramp spell + plus a land drop to close everything out.
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>>98451467
Based. Only troons hate attractive women.
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>>98451467
Tell me you don't bathe without telling me you don't bathe.
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>>98451855
ugly women (spiritually trannies) also hate attractive women
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>>98450486
Yeah the first few books about Rath from Urza's. They used to sell a book with every set in a fat pack.
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>tons of new commander that are actual in universe references
>still no fucking skeleton commander
They made a fucking cat/zombie commander but no skeletons
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>>98451867
I don't think we have seen everything just yet, so hold out hope.
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>>98451867
wotc fears the skeletal
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Typical WOTC employee (self image) when confronted by the prospect of a skeleton commander
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>>98451867
They hate us and I don't know why. What did we do to them?
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>>98451867
Monkey paw curls.
It's boros for some reason.
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>>98451867
>>98451882
oh good I'm not the only paranoid one, here. I'm actually losing my mind
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>finally acknowledging the 97 PC game
Fucking kino
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>>98451501
It really is fucking ridiculous. Exactly the kind of incompetence I'd expect from Wizards.
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>>98451891
Everyone's kneejerk about prices is indeed incompetence. Just not wizards.
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>>98451718
NONONO STOP HAVING FUN CHUDS
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>>98451867
My gf only like necromancer archetypes and only reason she hasn't play commander is due to there not being a skeleton commander
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>>98451884
Rakdos maybe, but there's only one card in all of Magic that is a skeleton that is White or Red and it's a Red thing from the D&D set.
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>>98451898
There are a few. They just "aren't good enough"
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>>98451501
This is the one time ever there should be ZERO argument against proxying. No one here plays this format professionally and if some faggot at a card shop complains they should be bullied out
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Why don't we wait and see what the prices are before we whine about them being too expensive. You're acting like the retards that thought the world was going to end when trump got elected.
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>>98451867
Germ equipment tribal came first before skeleton. What the hell.
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>>98450625
The real issue is that to make it viable you need to have a really good deck which is why the precons keep getting more pushed
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This is better than the candle.
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>>98450729
It's more that anons that like them said they were good or interesting when they were spoiled and then stopped shitposting, like me.
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>Angel card that lets them run every single color angel
How about a Vampire commander that has blue in it so I can finally play this card
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So does mystery booster cards get added in Arena or is this trash heap of a game gonna miss out on even more fun commanders?
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>>98451921
Not before I get an esper Sphinx commander
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>>98451897
>120
You want to go bare minimum 200 to get it's free draw effect.
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>>98451948
I was going to say the same thing. Guys a retard.
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>>98451921

>SOVL
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I'm gonna do it
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>>98451962
Have fun. Be sure to have a way to untap it. Otherwise you won't live until your next upkeep after knocking someone else out.
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>>98451921
They have a new angel commander?
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>>98451962
Does that make land cards the chosen color as well?
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>>98451969
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played 2 games today with randos. good stuff. won with this goofy ah squirrel. picking the right store really makes a huge difference

so in person people DGAF about brackets at all either from what I can tell (based on this small sample size and some other games I played last month at another store). bracket slop just an online meme??
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>>98451970
Yes
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>>98451970
Yes.
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>>98451962
The fear the painter and his wife.
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>>98451974
The basic land clause is pretty based.
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>>98451981
Pretty much just another two card "I win" combo. Tons of those. Unban her and pretty much any other creature on the banlist, except for Griselbrand. Fuck him.
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>>98451976
toskidoubters in shambles
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>>98451982
It's really bad. Imagine playing 5c off basics only.
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>>98451968
Ideally, I'll be saccing and recasting it.
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>>98451986
There are ways to deal with it anyway. Its not unbeatable.
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>>98451996
Boseiju..... and?
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>>98451974
Realistically what non white angels are even worth it? Aurelia?
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>>98451846
Unfortunately I just built a Mothman clone deck.
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Uh oh, stinky
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>>98451999
Atraxa
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>>98451999
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>>98451998
Any other channel abilities.
Any cycle ability
Having someone on the board to deal with painter when it hits.
Some other utility lands.
If she was unbanned, people would probably start running some of these. She'll always be a threat, but you can deal with it.
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>>98451948
Being at exactly 200 also makes it so the rest of the table doesn't instantly target you in fear of a random Battle of Wits win.
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>>98452006
Putting that in my mothman deck and proliferating the odor counters
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>>98452027
Does putting more odor counters on 1 creature even make it lose more life?
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>>98452032
nope
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>new set reprints Dust to Dust
Nice. This was one of the priciest pauper cards.
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>>98451718
This guy is such a "I hate fun" faggot. Him and that guac guy. Eternal bracket 1 shitters
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>>98452016
>18 mama
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>>98451718
>>98452039
Is there a single MTG Youtuber that isn't a giant faggot?
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>>98451987
yeah buddy indestructible 21/21 flying toski hits for lethal on turn 6
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>>98452051
I like Maldhound
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>>98452051
CalebD
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>>98452045
What else are you going to be doing with the mana? Also it was the first one that came to my mind, there are probably other better ones.
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>>98452051
meaty magic
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>>98452006
>they continue to smell
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>>98452045
>18 mana
>Comes in with a counter
>need to pay 2 mana to put another one on it
>Then another 3 to blow it up
>5 mana to get out of a hard lock.
You only need to kill the painter dude.
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>>98452006
this is silly AF. just a little shame its mono black but hey mono color decks are cheap to make, can just proxy Urborg and Cabal Coffers if on a budget.

just how to stay flavorful in mono black without doing all the zombie death arrrrgh shit. guess most of the cards will be Bloomburrow
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>>98452060
Sorry I'm being a dumbass
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>>98451991
That's why it's good. It forces you to nerf your mana base and really plan the deck out instead of just inserting everything you want and having your value engine commander fill in all the gaps.
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>>98452051
Citanul Chronicler is cool. then of course Rudy is pretty fun but hes just an "investor". for actual gameplay Citanul is where it's at
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>>98452061
Honestly, should've been WB, if only because skunk colors
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>>98452061
>hey mono color decks are cheap to make
No? They are often pricier than others because they need specific staples that there aren't alternatives to. The lack of variety in the color forces certain cards to be pricey as you just pointed with cabal and Urborg.
Urborg is literally pricier than any fetchland.
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>>98452006
>webm related
>>98452058
Based. That is one of my favorite card arts, I had Mark sign mine.
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>>98452067
>Rudy
This guy and literally every other INVESTERBRO youtuber are the biggest faggots imaginable.
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>>98452065
You can't even run G for fixing, you'd be relying on topdecks. Can't eve run fixing rocks, besides bad ones.
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>>98452067
Rudy is a faggot
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>>98452006
Is the implication here that she's stinky?
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Tide counters seem like a fun mechanic
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>>98452080
Looks like a dark souls boss
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>>98452079
That's why she got stabbed in the first place
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https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=set%3Ahob%20t%3Alegend%20t%3Acreature
why is no one talking about meeee
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>>98452080
The payoff isn't good enough for something that is gonna reset back down to 0.
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>>98452092
>something that is gonna reset back down to 0.
sounds like you've built your deck wrong
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>>98452090
No new goblin cards have been spoiled.
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>>98452090
It's just not a very interesting set. Probably the most bland UB set so far. We don't even get commander precons.
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>>98451915
It's not. It's a 4/4 with menace because of the may.
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>>98452147
It still gets the counters if they don't take the deal.
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>>98452039
I like how he unironically shares a personality with the guy in this thread insisting he needs MLD in bracket 2 to stop lands decks (this has never stopped Amulet Titan or Legacy lands)
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>>98452141
https://scryfall.com/sets/hoc?as=grid&order=spoiled
what are these from
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Cheers to Jizzards! MBC looks great!
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>>98452161
huh?
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I really like the idea of adventure commanders but the spell side should always cost 1
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>>98452090
brutally mogged by MBBC
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>>98452191
yeah but I can actually purchase the hobbit. The other set I can't
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>>98452180
bonus sheet, welcome decks, and collectors packs.
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esper cleric tribal is finally on the menu
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>>98452194
You will, if you bothered at all to look into it.
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>>98452201
Where do I buy it, anon?
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>>98452197
why
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>>98452209
Where do you buy the hobbit right now? Retard. Literally take 10 seconds to google the release date for the mystery boosters.
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>>98452209
JUST PROXY
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>>98452216
Why are you even doing this?
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>>98452219
Why am I living in reality? I dunno. You should try it instead of being a doompilled schizo retard.
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>>98452185
Trinket Mage has made several videos insisting green is OP in Commander because MLD isn't permitted, despite the existence of MLD never proving to be the throttling factor on the viability of land-based decks in any constructed format (the two formats that have the most prominent land-based strategies also have the most MLD available)
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>>98452239
Wow he really is dumb.
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Waiting patiently for Elesh Norn to be made into MLD because it turns off landfall.
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>>98452197
Already was
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more like transit mage
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Will people hate me for proxying a Y'shtola deck? I want to have at least one deck with coomer art
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>>98452275
yes
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>buddy starts proxying entire cedh decklists
>no longer want to play with him
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>>98452275
People will hate you for everything you do in this game. Don't let it stop you.
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>>98452280
>oh look yet another anon talking about how proxying causes arms races
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>>98452281
awooooga
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>>98452277
good

>>98452280
probably bracket 3 or 4 at best, I already have a cedh deck

>>98452281
hell yeah brother
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>>98451661
Genuinely boring and self building.
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>>98452280
Tell him bracket 2 only
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>>98451661
wtf did Weaver King just powercreep my nigga Captain N'gath'rod
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>>98452280
>oh look yet another anon talking about how unbracketed gameplay causes arms races
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>>98452306
Power creep is all over, I mean, Istvan powercrept himself
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>>98452327
Whoops, meant to quote >>98452293
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https://moxfield.com/decks/qA-L95I6lEq4tn_IvddWzA
what's the rest?
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help, I can't stop putting this retarded cat in all my decks
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>>98452280
If WotC didn't want us to proxy cards maybe they should get rid of the fucking reserve list or at the very least ban every card on the reserve list in each format that isn't vintage.
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>>98452355
>they should get rid of the fucking reserve list so i can get og duals I SWEAR I ONLY PROXY OG DUALS
yeah right lol
>at the very least ban every card on the reserve list in each format that isn't vintage
sheldon didn't do that so why would wotc? his legacy endures forevermore
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>view control decks in edh
>they don't run any board wipe
So what happens when someone swarms?
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>>98452374
I run 5
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>>98452374
>edh "control" decks
>look inside
>regular edh comboslop deck but it runs less creatures than usual
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>>98452374
Board wipes are MLD because someone might animate all their lands
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>>98452371
I proxy my basic lands.
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>>98452355
Unless you're playing cedh, there's no reason or need to proxy anything on the RL.
And the only reason to do it when you are playing cedh is because other faggots are proxying that garbage
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>>98452388
its annoying that there's like only one way to stop earthbent lands since boardwipes don't do shit
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>have drannith magistrate in play that is keeping player A from winning
>very visibly so
>player B then decides to attack me for lethal because "blah blah drannith blah blah can't play the game"
>player A then proceeds to win on the spot the moment I die

In such moments I wonder how some players manage to breathe.
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>>98452386
so...a control deck
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>>98452391
should have played the superior color
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>finally get my puppet-themed theft commander
>she's so bad only 2 fucking people have tried putting her in the command zone
>compared to over 400 decks for the stupid no deck limit commander
Worse than getting nothing at all. I just have to dream of a day where she gets a rakdos print and also isn't shit
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>>98451974
Looks like I'm gonna have to make this deck.
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>>98452407
Look on the bright side: You'll actually be able to buy her
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Is curse tribal viable
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>>98452422
With him? Yes.
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This little wax guy seems neat
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>>98452452
What if all your opponents agree to just pick 0?
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>>98452459
Then I guess nothing gets cast and you get to pick one of the three cards after
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>>98452422
This guy seems like he's better off in the 99 of Lynde. You'd get more use out of his moving auras from yourself to an opponent, and you won't be restricted to red for enchantment-related cards of which red has almost none.
I guess he's the better curse commander if you really really want to play Overwhelming Splendor or something.
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>>98452463
You still have to choose an opponent with the highest number. Its wording means you still have to choose even in a tie.
They still get to cast one of the spells then you get the sloppy seconds.
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>>98452463
Opponents tie for highest number (0), so you still have to pick an opponent to get a spell.
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>>98452459
Selfishness.
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>>98452420
Yeah. I'm looking at building Madcap Jester and putting Jabs in the 99. Seems to be the entire reason she was printed anyway, why they made her Legendary for that purpose I will never know.

>>98452452
I ask again: Why would I ever want to give my opponents my cards? I can't even force them to cast something so I can't give them downside.

It's just izzet group hug where you get to share the fate of every group hug player other than Bumbleflower, which is getting to enjoy being absolutely obliterated with the resources you gave the other players
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>>98452465
the KEY is when your opponent dies you lose your curses but not with that guy
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>>98452468
>>98452470
that would be really dumb and not the clear intent of the card, not the first time wotc made a card that works just fine 'as printed'
>>98451001
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Played someone the other night who put one of these on an Isochron Scepter. Every time they tapped the Scepter they took a sip of their drink.
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>>98452452
>>98452474
I wish you could choose what to give out and they have to cast it

like what would you take out of these three
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>>98452465
You wouldnt be restricted tk red with him either cuz of rulebreaker
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>>98452495
That's exactly why they didn't do that.
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>>98452492
That is either the coolest guy at the table or the cringiest guy. There is no inbetween.
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>>98452495
Warriors Oath

>>98452504
They should have forced cast at the very least. Even if it meant giving like 5 options or something.
As I said earlier, all that's going to happen otherwise is that people pick the best card of 3 and use it to beat you to fucking death with. Group hug fucking sucks
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>>98452522
Group hug is fine. You have a 5 IQ
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Pic related has got this song stuck in my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_0DsBctYg
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>>98452522
Forced cast is something WotC doesn't want to put on basically anything anymore because of how many situations there can be where you're not legally able to cast something (e.g. Disenchant with no artifacts/enchantments) or it's unclear what "if able" means (e.g. if the spell has alternative or additional costs). Making the cast optional disambiguates this. Demonstrate is a pretty notable exception in this regard which I guess they decided is okay because the original being cast usually implies casting the spell is legal.
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>>98452534
I will say again, the only group hug deck I have ever seen win is Bumbleflower.
I know you want it to be a thing anon. I know you want the multiplayer format to enable a win by being friends with your opponents instead of fighting them, but it simply doesn't.
The reality of group hug is that your opponents decks are already built to win the game without assistance, and then you pour gasoline on the fire by giving them a bunch of free shit. They then beat you to fucking death with the free shit you gave them so you don't give free shit to their opponents, and then someone other than you wins
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>>98452492
Absolutely, unequivocally based.
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>>98452479
Yeah WotC would never print a bad card in a mystery booster.
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>>98452554
Oh sweet, 0 mana nadu trigger.
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>>98452554
Oh sweet, 0 mana storm drake trigger.
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>>98452554
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>>98450346
>What are your impressions so far of the mystery booster commander card spoilers?
Most hyped cards of the year and theyre all in-universe. UBpiggies sharting up their pigstyes in anger
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>>98452567
Yes anon, that's the origin of the joke. Good job.
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>>98452554
Oh sweet, 0 mana vesuvan duplimancy trigger.
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>>98452479
>that would be really dumb and not the clear intent of the card,
It is clear though. It says "Choose an opponent with the highest number."

What is the highest number? 0
Which opponents have the highest number? All of them.
So what do you do? Choose.

It's actually very elegant formatting
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>>98452554
>not commander legal
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>>98452578
Anon coping with the idea that his opponents might organically choose to cooperate instead of greed the fuck out for a 2 mana artifact.
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Hey, eminence is back
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>>98452584
What does that have to do with whether the formatting is clear or not?
I'm replying to someone who said word for word that this is "not the clear intent of the card" when it blatantly is.

If you want to cry about bad formatting, consider the fact that Neera's ability goes away after the first spell you cast each turn whether you choose to use it or not, and all they needed to do was write "do this only once per turn" instead of "this ability triggers only once per turn"
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>>98452568
>pigging out is good now as long as it's UW funkopops made by troons from seattle!
don't you have a dead containment thread to haunt?
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>>98452568
t. Man who has to pay 200 dollars for his next ultra premium exclusive set
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>>98452594
No when I said "anon" I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to the anon you were replying to.
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>>98452600
>enjoying Magic is better than enjoying ads for other IPs printed on cardboard
Uh...yeah?
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>>98452609
but you're enjoying ads printed on cardboard for other IPs such as Hot Wheels, D&D, and Cluedo right now UWtranny
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>>98452612
D&D is a WotC IP, but other than that, no. I haven't bought any of those.
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The way cedh takes over people's identities in this game and totally mindfucks the way they look at cards should be studied. I've never seen a worse group at evaluating cards outside of their own little playpen than cedh players.
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>>98452609
Magic has warped into an ad for itself. Every set now includes an obligatory recognizable planeswalker and this entire mystery booster is just jerking off old sets and stories that people can only view as good through rose-tinted lenses. Notice how everything "good" Magic does now is just referencing its old material without actually developing any of it. Tezzeret is in EOE and does nothing. Elspeth is in TDM and does nothing. Ral is in BLB and does nothing. Evil Ral is in SOS and does, you guessed it, nothing.
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>>98452623
Name 3 bad card evals a cEDH player gave.
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It's funny that Trilobites got a commander before skeletons
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>>98452623
cEDH is just a meme anyway. Bunch of trannies and fatsos that couldn't make it in 1v1 formats so they had to try and make the casual multiplayer format competitive.

The skill of a 1v1 is that you build a deck capable of winning in a variety of match ups, and then you only have one target to undermine and defeat. While random chance factors in when it comes to lands, generally you've built your deck to minimize randomness and the winner will be the one who made the fewest mistakes.

In a 1v1v1v1, turn order matters. A player can play something that disproportionately affects one player more than another based solely on turn order. With 4 decks at the table, it is possible for some players to be affected more than others by particular spells. And a misplay by one player might advantage one player more than the others also.
It's a total joke trying to make such a chaotic environment "competitive" so you know anyone trying to do so has deep-seated issues
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>>98452627
take your pick of any good recent standard card
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>>98452633
you don't have to hate texas hold 'em poker that much little bro
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>>98452626
Cluedo belongs to Hasbro, not WotC. And not buying it has nothing to do with "hate"
UB is 3rd parties looking to promote their shit and WotC selling them ad-space to do so. I got into Magic because I like its setting and characters. I don't want another setting and its characters. If I did I'd go play Marvel or One Piece or whatever else

Why does that make you seethe so bad?
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>>98452635
>60 card players totally never miss out on good cards ever
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>>98452637
Poker is literally gambling, i.e. necessarily random, retard.
What we're talking about in Magic is a 1v1 competitive game. It became 1v1v1v1 to make it LESS competitive, so trying to make that format competitive is retarded.
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>>98452585
Huh. Put him out with Phyrexian Arena and have the Arena trigger go off first. Easy way to draw three cards each turn before your main phase.
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>>98452638
>if wotc made their own version of teletubbies and put it on mtg that's totally fantasy and appropriate for the game yum yum
wotc uses mtg as ad-space for their other games too you contrarian fool
>I got into Magic because I like its setting and characters
bwahahahaha
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>>98452635
This is a correct evaluation in the context of Modern, Legacy, Vintage, Commander, and arguably Pioneer.
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>>98452645
poker is indeed gambling but is also a bona fide competitive game with the same issues as cedh (turn order mattering, you want to be on the button rather than under the gun), you're just salty you got stomped on by a 'sweat' that's not even using a cedh deck
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>>98452647
>>if wotc made their own version of teletubbies and put it on mtg that's totally fantasy and appropriate for the game yum yum
I mean... yeah? I don't have to like it, but at least it would be their spin on it rather than literally entering a licensing agreement to make money for Teletubbies.

You seem like a very angry person
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Poker needs to be more like cEDH where two players can fold and pressure the remaining two players to agree to a draw or they'll actively sabotage the round.
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>>98452653
>I mean... yeah?
100% concession accepted
>You seem like a very angry person
i'm not the one crying that mtg is having anime and turtles and shit, enjoy
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cedh players should play poker instead
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>>98452650
>the same issues as cedh
Oh like:
>A player can play something that disproportionately affects one player more than another based solely on turn order. With 4 decks at the table, it is possible for some players to be affected more than others by particular spells. And a misplay by one player might advantage one player more than the others also.

Absolute joker. You can say any two things are similar if you just discount all their differences.
In many ways poker is like Monopoly, the cards are random and money exchanges hands.
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>>98452658
>I'm laughing so I win!!
Seething.
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>>98452660
>ok fine poker and cedh both care about seat order and every poker player would kill to always be on the button just like cedh players want to always be seat 1
>...but cedh is meanie poopoo head so yeah
lol
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>>98451316
This commander is gonna get banned purely because too many fuckers are gonna roll up with an absurdly large deck we're talking 1000+ and they're gonna run every single fetching possible land just to sit there and shuffle for an hour I know this because I'm gonna do it if this card is legal and the goal of the deck is gonna be shuffling 1000 cards as much as possible thoroughly
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These two are now my niggas
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>>98452664
>please wotc no more anime and old western ips and *gasp* harry potter!
hahahaha
Projection.
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>>98452622
>D&D is a WotC IP
Duel Masters is still partially owned by WotC. Would people be pissed if it got a UB set?
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>>98452676
the guy you replied to is perfectly fine with teletubbies in mtg as long as wotc made it so believe it that he'll slop up that seattle dick real quick
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>>98452675
>nooooo don't undermine me! im gonna post the same thing again so I win!
Youre gonna have to work for that last word
>>98452676
Why would that be an issue?
>>98452677
It wouldn't be a teletubbies set, which is the entire point. You understand this. It makes you seethe that people don't like whatever bullshit it is you jerk off to being crammed into Magic to sell ads
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>>98452676
>WotC IP
>UB
Not what that means and you know it. UB is third party licensing deals. It means literally nothing other than that.
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>>98452676
>>98452697
>Why would that be an issue?
Wizards sabotaged the launch of DM in the West and has spend the past 2 decades making sure nobody outside Japan knows this series exists. It's pretty safe to say they will never do a collab with DM.
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>>98452670
If that was ever a concern, Sensei's Divining Top would have been banned for the same reason it was banned in 60-card.
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>>98452697
>t wouldn't be a teletubbies set
>just like aetherdrift wasn't a hot wheels set
>or that murders of karlov manor wasn't a cluedo set
kekw cope more the future is UB why do you think they announced the kamigawa (pacific rim set!) and zhalfir (wakanda set!) first lmao
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>>98452677
>teletubbies in mtg
That would go so hard. The laughing sun baby better be overpowered.
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i love how anons here are openly threatening to grief games via obscene shuffling with a massive library but no no no they will never grief with MLD
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>>98452718
most composed MLD hater
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>>98452704
Sorry bud but I'm mulliganing down to 1 every game and I have zero wincons
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>>98452670
It was already talked about earlier in the thread but there is an official rule that pretty much disqualifies you if you cannot physically shuffle your own deck in a timely manner.
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>>98452723
>cool dude i'll play with you i promise this is just vehicles
>...oops i forget it's cedh!
>sorry i 'forgot' hahaha
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>>98452711
>just like aetherdrift wasn't a hot wheels set
Hot Wheels does not have a monopoly on the idea of racecars, no.
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>>98452725
I'm playing in a tournament who cares about disqualification

>>98452729
Sorry lemme hold priority on searching with evolving wilds turn 1 for 20 minutes
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>>98452740
>Sorry lemme hold priority on searching with evolving wilds turn 1 for 20 minutes
take your time fren you have no idea how long i'll wait just to thoracle your ass and take the W
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>>98452739
everyone knows it's a hot wheels set instead of a mad max set and that proves how heavy handed wotc is and you are in fact fooling no one but yourself
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>>98452580
rule 0 it
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>>98452749
If I ask you 1 question will you promise to answer it completely honestly?
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>>98452754
the only question that needs to be asked here is how long will you stay with mtg given that UB is their bread and butter and they have dropped the ball in developing their UW story a long time ago
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>>98452753
No one ever really uses rule 0. It exists so youtubers can put
>COMMANDER WITH NO BAN LIST
in the thumbnail.

If you rock up to the LGS and ask for something not legal to be made legal for a game, even if people say yes they will feel like you're imposing and will just be waiting for it to go wrong so they can complain about it and vow to never rule 0 again
Much like custom D&D classes
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>>98452754
No anon I'm serious I want your word that you will answer me 1 question truthfully
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>>98452760
funny how rakdos has the normie fetish there
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>>98452763
For >>98452756
Ain't got me glasses on
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>>98452765
It could have been hand-holding
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It's so fucking funny how it's only losers on here that hate UB. Every LGS I've been to, all my friends, all the discussion threads elsewhere, coworkers and random people in line at random stores looking at booster packs, all don't give a shit. If you hate it so much, then why are you still here? Sell your collection and get the fuck out
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>>98452766
instead of asking for permission to ask a question i just asked you the most important question of your day flat out, >>98452756
up to you if you want to answer it or not, just now that you're not in the anti-ub thread
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>>98452772
What are you afraid of? I just want to ask you 1 question and know your answer is honest
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>>98452771
It sounds like you're pretty mad actually. If you have to declare how not made you are...
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>>98452782
Sure, anon. Suuuuuure. Whatever helps you sleep at night
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>>98452782
i dunno about you but i got what i wanted and told wotc what other things i want down the line, if that's me 'being mad' then i definitely don't want to be (You)
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>>98452760
Izzet is for men in committed relationships with another man.
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>someone made the mistake of saying they liked Magic for Magic and now the gaybolas furfag has to make 100 pro-UB posts in the thread to mark his territory
I genuinely wish this faggot would just get rangebanned. He gets real riled up when his bullshit isn't in the OP
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Same go-to posts every time too. Doesn't even deny it
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https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=set%3Ambc%20o%3Avehicle&advanced=
??? vehiclebros...?
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I just thought of a format idea. You have one creature commander and one vehicle commander. Only the vehicle does commander damage
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>>98452821
No one likes vehicles anon.
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>>98452830
greasefangbros...
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>>98451802
>mfw the world better have Obeka's colors because she's my Dio larp commander
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>>98452840
>want to build a stupid Voltron Giada or Avacyn that goes in on Exalted
>tfw Hope Rides Alone
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>>98451999
All the Innstrand sisters, angel of despair and I actually think there's some decent niche use for eradicater valkyre
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>>98451657
Oh man The Hermit is so bad I didn't even clock it as part of the cycle. Man that sucks. I'd prefer it if they at least had something to do with their cards rather than just being tribal

>>98451687
Yeah they probably would put Eldrazi on The World or something

I toyed with a design for The Tower
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>>98452865
you cute.
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Is this the best forced sacrifice commander? I just want to build a deck where I constantly force other players to put their creatures into the graveyard instead of being an aristocrat in the corner killing my own shit.
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>>98452870
:3
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>>98452875
malik grim manipulator
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>>98452875
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>>98452875
>Is this the best forced sacrifice commander?
Uh no?
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>>98451921
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>>98451921
Are you stupid?
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>>98452865
>You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change “target” in its text to “each.”
Banefire deals X damage to any each. Gotta love how they rephrased "to target creature or player" on burn spells.
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>>98452476
You don't with lynde either
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>>98452875
No, that's black green Nemata or Vren.
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>>98452703
It already has
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>>98452950
Wait a second, You meant lynde. Hans doesn't have recurrsion or protection at all. He's so much worse.
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>all those yorion and battle of wits sold on tcgplayer today
People are way too excited to play a 200+ card brickfest just so they can run a single 5 mana 'I win' card.
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>>98452968
me on the left
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>>98452999
I'm doing it so I can run a hundred petitioners in a deck
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>>98452999
lol, lmao even. I can't wait to see how high it shoots up
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>>98452999
CGB literally begged for a way to play Yorion in Commander like last year
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>>98452999
Everyone wants to be a special snowflake with the unique unlimited decksize commander but they'll roll up to their LCS after it's release to find half the people built the deck.
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>>98453026
Yeah. By far the most popular of the MBC commanders on EDHREC and there's pretty much only 1 way to build it
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>>98453036
Well 2 ways to build it kinda.
You can run exactly 200 cards using your commander as a draw engine and get access to Yorion.
Or run over 200 for the same result but less consistent but now you can sometimes sack a game with Battle of Wits.
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>>98452999
I wonder if it would even be such a brickfest. We got so many products since the FIRE design started, it wouldn't surprise me if people could find enough redundancy to make it work. You might need to scrape the bottom of the barrel a little by including cmc 3 mana rocks, but you can easily have a ramp package in two colours for example.
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>image limit reached
BAKE
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on it
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>>98453397
NEW BAKE
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>>98452848
>mfw just wanting to Light up the Night with a electric themed deck
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>>98452072
they are definitely cheaper. mono black in particular. you don't need to buy another city of brass. you don't need to buy another birds of paradise or shocks.

don't need to order more proxies of original duals and yeah I already said Urborg + Coffers and thats not even necessary unless with your Skunk commander you plan to Exsanguinate everyone with 40 black mana.
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>>98452075
>>98452077

somebody's BIG mad they cheaped out and canceled their patreon and now can't get those cheap boostie boxes
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>>98452554
thats a free spell for committing a crime



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