Work in Progress, Never Looking Back Edition>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD>WIP Tutorial Images Megahttps://mega.nz/#F!TvQFCaLb!w8WZKCcOsTRasxrI0JWezw>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s>Paint thinning 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginnershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM>Decal Like a Prohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c>How to Edge Highlighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk>How to use contrast style paintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI>How to Paint with Tremorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqp76vAJu9g>Airbrush Priming and Thinninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkntrSBvXxEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGjBQzoukFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JVUxABe44https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEqT_R41JX8>I don't care if Monday's blue>Tuesday's grey and Wednesday, toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGgMZpGYiy8>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special wayhttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/JohnnyPrevious threads:>>98453998>>98441765>>98419132
>>98465121purple sisters just look damn good
I scanned my goblin.
>>98465389got a pic of the actual mini?
>>98465396
what was the best model of the previous thread?
>>98465464What good do you think comes out of asking this question?
>>98465464not yours, that's for sure
>>98465464The one you liked the most.
>>98465464trick question since I havent posted any models last thread
>>98465464definitely the ai sloppa
>>98465503Which post would that be?
>>98465464All of them.
>>98465464craftanon's models
>>98465518>craftanon>not craftsperg
>>98465524>brown identifying anon
>>98465518which model is that?
>>98465666he posted some of your worshipers
Painting cloth and capes is so fun bros
First off, thanks to OP for putting my mini in the collage.Here's my second scout finished, once again it was fun playing around with acrylics and i'm happy with how the model turned out but disaster almost struck when I had to glue the arms to the torso (tried actual subassembly for the first time). I tried to apply cement glue to the parts I covered with blue tack but the latter is kind of a bitch to scratch and the whole process was messy. You can see the plastic got pretty rough and bruised around the arms joints but whatever. Next time I'll just brute force my way with super glue.I'm still pretty satisfied and my phone doesn't make the model justice.Now I'll varnish the model with Vallejo satin varnish (another anon advised me to go with gloss varnish but I don't have it), apply the decals and re-varnish again (I think i'll get Munitorum varnish but i'm not sure).Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, hope you guys have a good night!
>>98465412Fantastic work on the face. I especially love the eyes. What scale is it?
>>98465760>First off, thanks to OP for putting my mini in the collage.You're welcome.>Now I'll varnish the model with Vallejo satin varnish (another anon advised me to go with gloss varnish but I don't have it), apply the decals and re-varnish again (I think i'll get Munitorum varnish but i'm not sure).Let us know how this goes for you.I stupidly applied Mr. Super Clear Matt (sic) to my Lord Commander Dante model and had to go back in and repaint the highlights on the gold parts as it killed the metallic shine of the Retributor Armour.If you find something that protects your model but doesn't turn Leadbelcher into grey, I'd like to hear about it.
>>98465934ntab I varnish everything with a 1:1 mix of matt and satin and the finish is nice for pretty much everything, including metallics
>>98465934i've never had a problem with paint coming off my minis. is there another reason to varnish?
>>98465954first I'd like to remind everyone here that in america varnish is for wood and we really shouldn't be using terminology from people without air conditioning. second the reasons to use a clear coat are to improve abrasion resistance, solvent resistance, and uv resistance. third if your paint is coming off the problem is with your prep or your application and nothing you put on top of it will fix it because the problem is underlying.hope this cleared things up.
>>98466003shut the fuck up, retard
>>98466031you seem a little hot under the collar. maybe you should turn your thermostat down a little.
>>98465788Thanks anon.It's a 75mm model.
>>98465934Lovely miniature anon.And I'll try to keep you posted on the matt varnish ordeal. The only matt varnish I've tried is a Tamiya one which flattened the colors so much I swore I'd never touch it again.Cheers
If you are working with green stuff putty, should you be wearing gloves? Also, question about putty in general. Is there one type that does better at doing things like objects or edges? And others for more softer things like capes and cloths?
>>98466281no. I prefer to feel it so I know how sticky it is. Use water if it's getting sticky. Greenstuff is flexible and gradually loses flexibility as it cures, and still retains some, which makes it good for things like capes, hoses and stuff like that. I haven't tried it but I suspect milliput would just break easily in a lot of those cases.
>>98466281Fuckin' hypochondriacs.In my day we had lead paint on the walls and asbestos in the attic.
>>98466281if you touch it with your bare hands you will get fingerprints on it
I'm gonna do my best to get this painted this month but I'm in a killer heatwave so not quite righy away
>>98466281unless you get any noticeable reaction (wich is very unlikely), no>Is there one type that does better at doing things like objects or edges? And others for more softer things like capes and cloths?greenstuff is gummy and a bit flexible before and after curing, so its harder to get sharp corner or edges with it, but an unsupported cape or sword will have a bit of give and be harder to break, milliput is more claylike so its easier to get sharp details it can slo be smoothed with a wet brush since it dissolves in water, it cures hard and kind of brittle, tamiya quick is very similar to milliput, more sticky and less 'grainy'brown stuff is in between gs and milliput, and you can also mix gs and milliput in different proportions to get a middle groundsince gs can be hard to get now, i'd suggest you get milliput and tamiya and try them, both are cheap
Lads I need opinions; I’m not super set on my white armor here. I do a black primer, then a white primer zenithal, then a drybrush of white on the model. The megaboss on the right then went with apothecary white contrast and is basically done. Zoggrok on the left got screaming skull basecoat, then agrax earthshade on the top and ratling grime on the bottom. Then I stippled screaming skull, a mix of screaming skull and white, then white
>>98465954>is there another reason to varnish?Yes. Even on shitty eBay rescues, Like to have proper insignia, for which I use waterslide transfers. They're notorious for tearing or rubbing off if you havdle them the wrong way.Addiotionally, I like to add scribbles to parchment, scrolls, and purity seals with a fine Sakura Micron pen. The ink works great on paper, ubt on a model painted with acrylic paint, it has a bad tendency to smear.
>>98466570Left looks pretty good.
>>98466570right looks gray and like a rock. left looks like really dirty white.
Today's progress
>>98466003I have air conditioning though, can I keep calling it varnish?
>98466599don't samefag your shitty bait
Finished with another
I'm starting to really like how these are turning out.
>>98465121Plasmancer sprue had his finger already broken. Does this read as lightning coming from the finger area?
>>98466955Fuck me
>>98466962I'd recognize it as a spell of some sort yeah. Depends on how you paint it. I like Necrons also but I wish the Necron crypteks weren't so weirdly modeled. I feel like they are almost too spindly. How was it assembling that guy? I hear geomancer is quite annoying to put together too.
>>98466985This guy wasn't too bad. What I actually fucked up on was the Royal Warden, as I didn't push the spine through the stomach hole far enough, and then the Necron neck things didn't connect. Pretty annoyed about it honestly. I just ended up cutting them and decided he'll be fucked up forever.
>>98466962How do you utilize the green stuff to do this? Do you make a bit and let it cure for an hour or so before carving it?
>>98467012I used more of the yellow part so I could bend it and fuck with it as it cured. However, I think I used too much yellow, as it's still bendy after 48 hours. But I used my nipper to trim it with minimal hobby knife, as it was just too bendy. Used hobby knife on thicker and straighter finger part though.
>>98467012Make a frame out of wire.
traitor guardsman is coming along nicelyI think I'll do some segmented shoulder pads and a sashimono. Of course I do need to add some more spikes, maybe a belt buckle and some chaos greebles
>>98467250also I'm 50/50 on the gauntlet thing I did for the chainsword arm. Not sure if it looks good or not
>>98467250The mask is way more detailed than the rest of him.
>>98467250way too much detail on the mask imorest looks good so far
>>98467250That mask isn't going to print nice, need something heroic scale in detail
>>98466761cool bug, anon
>>98467263>>98467266>>98467306couldn't find much in the way of masks and I'm nowhere near good enough to sculpt one myselfI was going to hit it with a smooth tool and delete some of the detail
>>98467338I think this should print fine?
Finally done the warband. Time to start all the monsters >>98467360Looks fine, just print it and see how it goes. Teeth might read a bit thin
>>98467360https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3854103they say 6mm but they are highly detailed for that, these heads are in your theme and will look/paint great at full size.
>>98466962looks like some kind of tentacle
>>98467438Thanks! There are a handful of bits sellers with good bits for blood pact which match the aesthetic I'm going for. Artel W has some nice heads. Reptillian overlord has a few minis. I might try picrel.Will definitely have to order some bits/stls to fill out a squad. Was thinking of making a unit of kasrkin maybe, not sure what would be most useful for a tank heavy list yet.
>>98465720great job!very jealous of how smooth your blending is. Motivates me to keep getting better on my own cloth
Behold! The Demon Prince Fau'stek the Fell, hatefully beholden in deed and soul to the Master of the Soul Forge. Once a noble protector of the Memory Tree of his brother Astartes, he fell and burned in sacrifice that which he was sworn to defend to attain his ascension Daemonhood.A lot of work to do still, particularly his wings and his base. Very proud of how his axe turned out. I'm having a blast painting him, its the first model that I've been inspired to give a name and lore and everything. Its been very fun thinking up a story behind the effort I'm putting in.
>>98467558Cool conversion. He’s a Daemon Prince of Vashtorr I assume?
Anyone have an image that old Balrog painting tutorial? I think it was from White Dwarf.
>>98467601>Cool conversion.Thanks! Its a 3D print tho, I cant claim kitbashing/converting as a talent of mine.>He’s a Daemon Prince of Vashtorr I assume?yeahI like that there isnt too much lore on him so I can pretty much do what I want within the broad strokes. I got a Defiler I still need to base painted up in Vashtorr scheme too.
>>98466650>The squad has the flat one carry the banner
>>98467648I appreciate the chuckle
How does one paint scars? I wanna paint a lightning scar on the skin but don't know what Citadel paints to use or if I need to use multiple different paints like how ya do Night Lords lightning.
>>98467963mix a pink with your skintone and use that to pink scars, highlight as desiredunless it's a scar that's usually supposed to be covered, then use whatever you're highlight your skin with since faded scars are paler than the surrounding skin
working on a mortis engine
I need more primer but there's only gundam shops near where I live with japanese brand hobby bitsAre any of them good alternatives for citadel?Heard Tamiya is good but they don't sell a black primer. Heard Mr. Hobby is also good but it's toxic.
>>98468016>but it's toxiconly if you are a fucking weak ass chump
>>98468016If it's spray primers then they're all toxic. I use mr hobby through the airbrush and it works.
>fretting about bio-hazard sticks a few threads ago>resin is instantly necrotic to skin before that>now we're worried about primer being toxicgood grief
>>98468040average age of the thread dropping dangerously low
Ragepainted the head, realise I gave it texture and gave up. Model is finished but. Doing the killteam next.
>>98468040Honestly tho if you aren't using a mask when priming you're asking for trouble, that shit can fuck you up
Finished my starcraft marines, at some point will go back to clean but im just trying to make a dent in my pile of shame.Will base the entire army together when done.
Question. I'm looking for some terrain instructions for historical things (between metal age to medieval stuff). Where can I find decent instructions/books for things like ruins, buildings or similar "arts and crafts" for historical settings?
>>98467533Thanks! Most of my blending is done by layering, sometimes smoothed out with glazes. All it takes is some patience, keep at it anon.
>>98468040Redditor "everything is toxic, you need a chemlab tier of protection to spray acrylics" is merely other side of retardation coin to your "resin is fine, frying fish is more dangerous". You are both fags.
>>98468019>>98468040Dumbfucks it was a questionPeople online say it's way more toxic than regular primer as it's lacquer based instead of acrylic
>>98468267Which is true - lacquer fumes are not something you want to breathe in. Are these spray can primers or ones for airbrush? Because spray cans are easier to deal with since you can spray outside (if it's too cold, you can use some sort of thermal isolation like bubble wrap to keep can warm for longer). Once I tried applying lacquer primer by brush, years ago, ended up with serious dizziness and headache despite opened window so this is something I recommend to avoid.
>>98465760You’ve encountered the main problem with assembling after painting. I have yet to find a good solution but maybe someone else has one. I almost always assemble first for this reason. Painting before assembly is fine for display pieces but I’ve had bad luck when doing it with gaming pieces.> another anon advised me to go with gloss varnishThat was me. Decals slide and lay down better on gloss surfaces. Conventional wisdom, which I agree with, is gloss, position decal, microsol (I don’t even bother with microset these days honestly), gloss again, and then matte everything. This creates the illusion of a painted on decal.>>98466003What if I’m an American without air conditioning?> third if your paint is coming off the problem is with your prep or your application and nothing you put on top of it will fix itIncorrect, and I’ll go one further and hypothesize that you don’t game and/or haven’t been painting for very long. You’re the autist that claims to have worked in a paint shop before, correct?
Are these Golden Maple stuff any good or just cheap quality chinesium?
>>98468432i've been happy with the brushes i bought from them. fair price for the product offered in my experience, but i've only used their brushes.
WIP on the Sagitaur conversion I'm working on. The pads are on myminifactory and I honestly like how it looks Vs the moon buggy, also as is with my entire army, they are all robobro's.
>>98468267Believe everything people tell you on the internet
>>98468016Tamiya is good.Mr Hobby is good.No rattlecan is harmless, stay outdoors when using them.
>>98468058I swear from the thumbnail looks like old Archaon on his horse
>>98469052I can see it anon, I can see it too.
>>98469052Now that I think about it, archaon on horse is about the right size for a traitor guard Lord Solar proxy if you account for the tactical rock. Although I think his legs might be too beefy.
>>98469114>black knight>white knightHmmm... print and paint miniatures for my old MtG decks to put on the summon cards when played?
Alright chumps, what do you use to build up a hero rock for a character? Fantasy setting, mind you, so preferably no corkboard.
>>98469327Decorative rocks from "everything" store.
>>98468267the medium doesn't matter the part that fucks you up is the solvent and it's in acrylic cans too.>>98468331>What if I’m an American without air conditioning?buy a window unit from shartmart they're only like $200>you don’t game and/or haven’t been painting for very longwhat makes you think picking up your space men off the table and putting them back down is a more strenuous test of paint adhesion than being tossed around on the ground outside or being shoved in and out of a holster hundreds of times? you have galapogos syndrome and if you looked outside the hobby context or even just the gw dominated hobby context you would realize you are wrong.
>>98469327>Fantasy setting, mind you, so preferably no corkboard.Corkboard coated in putty gives pretty nice granite-y rocks
>thinking about buying a few busts and 75mm minishas painting larger scale minis improved your skill as a painter?
>>98465954varnish provides uv protection, wear protection, and evens out the gloss providing a uniform finish. That's why we choose between matte, ultra matte, satin, gloss, semi-gloss etc. varnishes. Some areas could be done in one and others in another of course.
>>98469656>varnish provides uv protectionDoes it?
Never felt better laying so little paint on models.I dread the moment I'll have to paint the babylonian ones.
>>98469727depends on the type. Not all but some offers it, Mr Color has a UV Cut line that i use on my gunpla
>>98469327If you live in europistan, you might have a Tedi nearby. Decorative slate is great
>>98469727Some varnishes do, and they will usually tell you.
>go to buy 1 mini>oh well this looks cool too>and this>oh and a few paints>and this is on sale too>etc.>$500 in cart
>>98469593> being shoved in and out of a holster hundreds of timesAre you seriously comparing acrylic paint with a baked-on epoxy finish? Because I coat my guns with Cerakote and Norrell’s moly resin, but I paint my army men with hobby paint. Different products and different applications, but I’m sure that you already knew that.Speaking of which, did you ever paint cars?
>>98469832Don't be an impulse buyer, anon. Poor self control is the primary cause of a shit life.
>>98469851I'm not buying for half a week at least (don't want the packages to arrive while I'm not home) so I have some time to think about itthey're all cool though and I don't know what to cut
Necromunda style board wip
>>98469750very nice. I've just started doing some hellblasters with a heat effect but messed up the first one and didn't get much of the middle orange/red section, went almost straight from yellow/white to red/black.
>>98469327Tree bark for reptiles can be modified as needed. In fact search outside for stuff like that, when camping at park, fishing etc put cool stuff in pocket, save for models
Some progress
>>98470322very nice weathering
>>98469750Looks great
>>98469727Yes, they all do, but some better than others. Especially polyurethane ones, not that we keep our minis in a lot of sunlight
>>98470322Looks great >>98469901Really cool>>98468510Kickass model>>98468190I love them>>98468058Great colors>>98467982Wow! That's huge. (That's what she said)
>>98467558Nice ax! (That's what she said)>>98467419Those are great! >>98467360Yeah Looks solid, just do good supports>>98467315Wicked!>>98466302I love the shield >>98465412 >>98465389Would. She cute
I made a new much more realistic shader for my 3d paint bottles. The label's edges are too perfect, but that should be easy to fix and is probably the last thing holding it back.
>>98470517imagine putting all this effort into painting actual models
>>98469850no, you were the one implying that I don't know about wear because I don't touch my paint. if you really do cerakote you should know that if you skip surface prep or botch your application putting clear over it isn't going to fix the problems it's going to end up having.
>>98470664And you would know that we’re not baking our minis at 300F for an hour to make Vallejo cure properly.I’ll ask again: did you paint any cars?
>>98468040
>>98470701The booth isn't venting through a filter and outside. He's going to die.
>me, on my way to paint a little toy space soldierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j2VlzeFKL0
>>98470681we didn't do cars at our shop but my coworker did the front end of a truck in some goofy rainbow scheme for a customer. I don't know what point you are trying to make. whether you're painting a car or a magazine or a plastic army man the paint has to stick to the part. if it isn't sticking putting more shit on top of it is like trying to treat eczema with a bandage.
>>98470721terrible example, you literally treat eczema by putting lotions on top of it
>>98470739which fixes the problems that's causing the skin to flake off, not just trying to tape it down and calling it fine.
>when the water based paint gets through all 3 of your rubber gloves
>>98466650Very crisp, great work anon !I miss painting smooth marines with none of those extra details
>>98470769
>>98470701>>98470717>>98470769Having a melty today I see.
you know a thread is full of retarded poorfags when they cry about ppe
>>98470772god these marines look like dog shit. You did a great job painting them, the banner is sweet, the writing and heraldry patterning is great. but shit all those extra details make a terrible mini
>>98470789ironically it's usually people old enough to have had actual lead poisoning while growing up
>>98470880>lead poisoning or T levels below 200 ng/dl before 30th birthdaycall it
>>98468331>You’ve encountered the main problem with assembling after painting. I have yet to find a good solution but maybe someone else has one. I almost always assemble first for this reason. Painting before assembly is fine for display pieces but I’ve had bad luck when doing it with gaming pieces.Yeah, I'd be glad if some anons shared some experiences with subassembly because mine was pretty traumatic lolI feel like using a black primer would help with the most hidden parts of the miniatures but I almost always use Grey Seer to apply contrast paints as basecoat and reaching all the crevices is a pain without making a mess. Thanks again for the advice on decals
>>98470894optimistic timeline
>>98465760>>98468331>>98470894>subassemblynot helpful to most people, just me wanting to share and show off. I ran into a lot of the same issues because I cant let go of painting the nooks and crannies where no one will ever see. But now I can re arm my marines. Or promote them for my narrative campaigns.
What are you painting this Friday night? I am probably going to work on my some Necron units or Chaos Space Marine tacticals. I don't have any real annoited. Do you think I could kitbash one from a regular CSM if I added like a tentacle arm or something?
>>98470721My man, I get that you used to push a brush around a paint shop and this makes you an expert because autism, but you’re applying knowledge of one thing to something else entirely. Yes, surface prep is important, but acrylic paints behave nothing like heat cured phenolic resins. Try gaming with your uncharted minis for a year or two and you’ll see what I mean. Would this be necessary if they’re display pieces? No, although still a good idea. Would it be necessary if I was shooting them with molyresin? No, that’s made for gun parts. But we’re talking about acrylic paints here that are thinned for usability and formulated to dry fast. They are not made for, and do not provide, the level of durability that a heat cured resin would. Additionally they’re handled, dropped, packed into and out of boxes and in general spend a lot of time being rubbed, which will eventually remove acrylic hobby paint regardless of surface prep.You’re going to disagree with me because your autism prevents you from realizing that you’re wrong, but this is well known to people that play games. Even the ones that shoot paint for a living and know about surface prep. The only people confused by this are the ones that don’t game. So instead of arguing here about a hobby that you don’t engage in, why don’t you find a group and get a game in?
>>98470981paint is paint it's all just ground up rocks in some kind of medium. obviously some paints are more durable than others. I've seen tons of rustoleum camo jobs that look like total shit after being tossed around inside a range bag for just a few months, even though by miniature standards it's way tougher than anything citadel makes. the point that you seemingly can't understand is that clear coat does not increase paint adhesion. it physically can't, because the paint that's (failing) to stick to the part is on a different layer than the clear. it will protect your mini from your nasty gamer sweat, it will protect it from being scratched when it bumps into other minis on the table, but if your paint is just falling off from being touched then it's not going to fix the problem that's causing that to happen.
>>98470978Finished the base on this guy Kinda generic but I don't enjoy basing
>>98471030retard-kun...
>>98471032I like how the axe came out. I don't like basing either but I need to do it for a lot of my models. I never know what to really do though. I like to chose some type of base that helps the models overall color scheme.
>>98471032big fan of the flesh colorssaved for future reference
I actually really enjoy painting. The hardest part is assembly for me though. Some models seem so annoying to me. This one was simple with a open stance so it could be assembled as one and painted and not have to use sub assemblies.
>>98471110I just don't have those manual skills every artist seems to have these days, so every time I try to do something fancy it comes out like shit and I just lose the motivation. Even basic shit like corks+pigments comes out horrible.Thank you for the Axe, I used the rust thingy from whatsitsname company and then drybrushed some leather brown on it>>98471121Thanks, I tried to copy what GW does for its ghouls, unfortunately forgot the recipe but I should be able to redo it in the future.
>>98471145>unfortunately forgot the recipe but I should be able to redo it in the future.I've started to keep a little diary after an anon here suggested it. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy that if I decide to expand an army in 10 years Ill know exactly how I painted the OGs
>>98470769Nobody uses watercolors to paint minis. We use acrylics, which are plastics.
>>98471163the solvent is still water, thus they are called water based
>>98471303They're called acrylics actually. "Water based" is just something some manufacturers write on some bottles to advertise to retards.
finished the Royal Herald
>>98471335turn the fucking AI filter off your camera or use opencamera
>>98471310They water based acrylics, anon. That's why you can thin the paint and clean your brush with water instead of spirits.
>>98471310acrylic defines the polymer, not the solvent, it can be acrylic and not water based
>>98471353I can thin my paints and clean my brush with alcohol. This is not relevant.Acrylics are acrylics, watercolors are watercolors.Calling acrylics waster based paint is retarded, especially in the context of trying to minimize toxicity.>>98471387Literally my point.
>>98471390>Acrylics are acrylics, watercolors are watercolors.He didn't say watercolors, he said water based paint. The acrylic paints generally used in mini painting are water based. Stop talking and look it up.
>>98471347
>>98471032Cool, I like this guy
>>98471409And he was wrong, they're not water based paints, they're acrylics, aka plastic based paints.I don't know to look up that there's water in acrylics, everyone knows that, you dumb acrylic eating fuck.
>>98471421ThanksAlso a funny picture from a wip, this weird insect some nights ago got obsessed by the death guard sorcerer, was walking up and down the staff
a few more touches and I can prime this guy then forget he exists for a year or so
>>98471422Water based and oil based refers to the solvents used in the paint. Acrylic paint can be either water or oil based, acrylics being a polymer has no baring on that. The way you can tell hobby acrylics are water based, is the fact that they dissolve in water, allowing you to use water to dilute the paint and clean your brushes.Now go troll some other thread.
>>98471500>zimmerit>metal barrelTremendously based. >>98471335>>98471418Lovely stuff as always!
>>98471500i like the zummerwaffleplate or whatever the hell its called. I think that'll look real neat once its painted up
>>98471535oil paint is called that because it's made out of linseed oil. the solvent for it is mineral spirits. there are alcohol based acrylic paints like the mr. hobby aqueous line.
>>98471688Yes anon, there are. But most of us use water based acrylic paints.
>>98471739ok but there are no oil based acrylic paints and oil paint is called that because the the medium, not the solvent. it sucks being wrong but this is an anonymous website so no one will know it was you anyway.
>>98471762I'm not wrong, they're called oil based paints, not spirit based paints. Take it up with the rest of the world if you disagree with the naming scheme.
>>98471811>oil based refers to the solvents used in the paintthis was wrong. you are wrong. just give up and pretend it was someone else posting already.
I think this is done
Finished my kroot killteam. This was the second kit I've ever painted and I think they turned out alright. Only two I wasn't happy with were the heavy gunner and the dude next to him. The dude with the entirely red cape was the first one in the kit I painted and I didn't really know how I was gonna paint all of them to sort of match so I just winged him, definitely overdid it on the wash with him. I am currently learning how to do bases with foliage and whatnot so maybe in the future I'll do that to these guys.I pre-ordered the new spectre killteam so that'll be the next kit I work on, but until then I got an enginseer to paint.
>>98471940i like the patterns on the capes/ponchos. very nice
painted some more mechs.
>want to add chains>hell to paint underneath chainsugh
>>98471940the level of detail is great but they look a little sandy. it's not all over so I'm not sure it was the primer.
>>98472570I assumed it was the varnish but it probably is just the primer. I have to use brush on primer because my family doesnt want me to use a spraycan anywhere inside and I cant really use them outside because I live in florida and its humid as balls 24/7.
>>98471940damn I'm looking at this more and aside from the messiness it's really impressive. there are so many great details like the guy with the bleeding bullet hole in his armor and the arrows in the bow gun guy's quiver having different colored stripes. all of the little features are colored, from the snaps on their pouches to the trinkets on their head spikes. I feel like this justifies my belief that painting all of the details that exist on the model does way more for making it look interesting than artificial tricks like overdone edge highlights.
How do I know if my paint is thinned enough without ever touching my skin or a glove?
>>98472664animal testing
>>98472664test it on your glans
>Find video tutorial on a niche color scheme idea>The man brings out an air brush
>>98472678What does a color scheme have to do with an airbrush?
>>98472691Because I wanna use a brush and follow the steps.
>>98472678>>/40kg/
>>98472693You can probably get the same results without an airbrush if you want, every youtuber is going to use one because it's a little more convenient but most things can still be brush painted.The base shader for the bottle is finally done (lid is just an untextured placeholder) to a degree that I'm happy with. Needs the randomization options still but this is good enough.
Got these done the other day.
>>98472837the guy in the middle looks like he has a big mechanical schlong
>>98472902its curved downwards like mine
>>98472902it's a codpiece.
I'm preparing some priests of Ulric .
>>98467126Why though
Starting my avatar, playing around with reds and yellows, and thinking about metal types for the armour. Does anyone know what the best way to paint a smokey/soot stained look? I think the ticket is going to be a hyper matte finish, but I figure there might be a good product specifically for that.
>>98465389woah how'd you do that?
>>98471886oh goddammit fine*unzips*
>>98472693>>98472678>Because I wanna use a brush and follow the steps.TRANSLATING... TRANSLATING>I don't know how to come up with my own colour schemes or reverse engineer a colour scheme. I need my hand held through every step.ftfy
>>98472678post the video
>>98472678watch the video, think about what you like about what he did. Then take your brush and do what you think would be good. I believe in you
>>98472678Get an airbrush then, duh.
>>98472941Best looking model from Storm of Chaos. Love it even though the abilities & prayers were shit.
>>98473270>>98473291>>98473328>>98473333it's literally a shitpost, stop engaging
>>98473376Yeah, it's a shit post.
>>98471141looks great. I too hate assembly. Most 3d printed minis are a single piece and that I appreciated.>>98472837beautiful!>>98472941metal rocks. Love the headdress>>98473045that already looks really cool>>98470517Would buy! Make it real!
>>98472828Looks so real. I want dat paint
What else should I add to my Emperor's Children forgefiend head? I'm already going to add some dangling wires and tubes under his chin
>>98473571The GW noise marines all have little canisters attached to their weapons, maybe you could add a pair of those sticking diagonally downwards from either side of the head?
>>98473595oh god no when did they ruin noise marinesdo they all have doom sirens or whats with the backpacks
>>98473599They look fine to me, what's wrong with them?
>>98473633>speakeryes a doom siren and they all have it for some reasonand i disagree they dont look good at all but thats enough of siderailing the thread on my part
>>98472049Good looking techs, anon.
>>98473595good idea but there's not much room so I can only fit one
>>98471030I’d tell you about how to paint with dry pigments but your mind might be blown to the point of an actual ruptured aneurysm, and I don’t need that on my conscience. Google it if you’re feeling adventurous, but be ready to summon immediate medical assistance. When your brain is literally bleeding out, seconds count.
Can't believe I slept on historicals for so long, prob $10 for all these and the kit is fun to build, like old warhammer
>>98472957
>>98473571>>98473595Put the cannisters along either side like the spiked 'ears/frills' of a dragon
>>98473767dry pigments is from the same school of memes as using a pencil for panel lining
>>98472837Space Pope flanked by 2 Space Swiss Guard and his funky court dancersgood job, anon, but those unpainted and bare bases make Space Jesus cry
>>98473184Used a free photogrammetry app called realityscan.There are paid things in it I think, but I don't know what they are.
>>98471500Gyat dayum, but I know how you feel. Last major cleanup job I did I just put the mini away for 6 months after I primed it I was so sick of it.
Dear /wip/.Honest question - how to regain the joy of painting little dudes? I have entire box filled with primed and ready to paint Infinity minis, equally large number still before assembly. I remember how fun it was to paint them, how satisfying it was to look at finished ones. And yet I either feel indifference or repulse or frustration while doing that, especially with all those numerous tiny details. I only painted four minis this year! I really don't know what to do with that now.
>>98474519Sounds like you stopped learning new ways of how to paint your little dudes. Check out some wildly different techniques, learn them, and you'll start enjoying it again. Then again, army painting is a fucking drudgery, which is why scale models are better.
>>98474519The answer is 75mm and busts, or other display models.
>>98465412Wow that is some of the best nnm I've seen. The continuity of that light bar between segments is so good looking.
>>98474519I find two strategies work well for me - the first is to just stop. Eventually (months, usually) I'll start to feel the itch to paint again and then coming back to it fresh is a joy. The second is to force myself to do a little bit every day, 20 minutes to an hour, lay down a coat, do a wash, touch something up, etc. and the momentum/progress ends up energizing and motivating me.
>>98474576Thanks anon. It's definitely my best model so far.
>>98474519I sit down at my painting table with a tray of finished minis and just admire them for a while. It usually works to get me started since I’m already at my painting table. Otherwise it’s nice to look at your completed work.A lot of the time I notice a flaw and have to fix it or else it will drive me crazy
>>98474519Unironically giving a fuck. Just pick out the detail you want to pick out and leave the rest at the mercy of basecoat + wash. Give yourself a time limit of 1 hour.
>>98473973badass griffin>>98473792no doubt, I prefer historicals myself, you can get any era and it's cheap and fun, you can study uniforms and history and stuff and learn while you paint>>98474519Painting is meditation. It's not supposed to be exciting, it's supposed to be relaxing, a time to zone out, put on some musack and attack dat.
>>98474533There truth in that since I recall a lot of excitation from trying new stuff with other models but techniques are limited in number so I will run out of those at some point.>>98474559Because of size of details?>>98474950>>98474969Actually, each time I paint, I cannot really "stop giving a fuck" so to speak. Sometimes I have to take a break solely because elevated heart rate and shaking hands from trying to do it as best as I can prevents me from going forward.Thanks to other anons>>98474691>>98474842
>>98475101>but techniques are limited in number so I will run out of those at some point.If you plan on actually learning these techniques well and not just knowing they exist, you'll die of old age before that happens.
>>98475101>Actually, each time I paint, I cannot really "stop giving a fuck" so to speakYou have to learn. Every artist has to learn this or burn out.
>>98472546>paint model>paint chains>glue chains>wash
Ten thousands whips on bare ass to whoever designed Mr Hobby absurdly tall bottle for cement. I accidentally knocked it over and destroyed large part of Farsight mini. One of jumpjets is completely melted, two small wings glued to paper towel. This is disaster.I want to whip myself or something, I wanted to bring this particular model to exhibition next year but now, no matter what I do, it will look like piece of junk.
Tank crew for my current project. The baneblade is ready so far, now I'm modelling five dudes from the crew (plus the guy on the machine gun in OP's collage).
>>98475239that fuckin suuucks, I'd be bummed as hell
I'm going to raise all the skeletons!
>>98475239Congrats you can now paint it as if its been battle damaged and equipment literally melting from overheating
>>98475412One jet was spared from melting, actually. Other is melted from one side. I guess I could pretend it was hit or something like that but how to sell it properly?I still feel that it cannot be salvaged.
>>98475239We can't replace it?
>>984754863d modeler might have an stl for the damaged parts, how expensive would it be to buy a new one?
>>98475398Looks great fren
>>98475534I would need to buy entire new model.>>98475545200 PLN, approx. Translate to around 45€.I didn't even planned to play it, I just liked design and wanted to paint one.
>>98475583Do you have a paypal or something? Maybe we could pitch in and lessen your cost
>>98475398best i can do is some ghouls and cultists
>>98475601I appreciate the offer but I think it would be better to figure out what can be done with it, now that emotions calmed down. Like that idea of "selling" battle damage from partially melted metal. Or, since it's outer side, to cover it with some sort of weathering so nobody will notice.
>>98475636Give it time to harden and polisjph it with sanding paper, you can smooth out most of the damage, also check ebay, somebody may have a partially finished one you can scrape for parts
>>98475486I have Saturn 4 Ultra 16k and I print regularly. I also live in Pepikland right next to you. Find me an .stl file (don't need to be supported) with the parts you want printed, pay for the shipping, and I can print it and send it to you.
>>98472599Thanks! I have shaky hands so it takes a lot of concentration to not mess up the small details, but I think the more I paint the better I'll get at it.
They ain't a nothin but sum hound dauwgs
>>98475583>>98475636do a 2 model diorama where the other one is blasting the fucked up side with a flame attack or acid or something
>>98475761We can teach you about shakes. Father taught me. Leaning forwatd with forearms against edge of table helps a lot, some people lean back in good chair and rest arms on chest but easierto tip backwardsas fall or break chair that way so be careful. Either way this is called bracing when forearms are supported by table or chest. Both arms work together, one holds mini, other the brush, the hands are brought together and cup each other while holdimg stuff close together like you are holding a gun or delicate bird, and fingers spread as needed each hands fingers supporting the other one to creat a springy action that can be mobile but sturdy when needed, this is called bridging. It's easy to show, hard to explain. Watch master Embs' hands, he bridges perfectly. http://embscomputerart.com/miniature-painting-instructional-videos/
>>98475812Elvis would be proud
>>98475101>Because of size of details?you just open yourself up to a lot more models that might inspire you to want to paint them.
It’s been a year since I started mini painting, and it seems like the only thing I’m getting better at is coomer skin. Other than skin, I have no fucking clue how to do NMM, highlighting, OSL, shading whatever
>>98475888That all looks good. To learn that other stuff get some chesp minis fir practice and try a lot of different things, like make on look metal, another a lot of highlights etc, once you have experience you can incorporate into your good models which already look good by the way
>>98475888>after a yearfuck man, after like 10+ years of being a hobbyist im garbage compared to that. Like my goon models are nothing compared to yours.Also i really like how you did her hair and her top.
>>98475888Art is hard. Almost all the people that are good at it grind for decades.
The faces on old infinity models are so fucking tiny, even with a magnifier and these zoomed in pictures I'm still not sure if there's actually a mustache sculpted on this guy or if I just misinterpreted some folds around his lip
>>98476033I like the stasche
>>98475888nice trips and skin>>98476007>Art is hard. Almost all the people that are good at it grind for decades.thats relieving to hear
>>98475907nta, I honestly believe most mini painters could become as good as the best mini painters within a year or two. The only thing you need is to keep trying to improve your advanced skills like eyes, nmm, volumetrics, etc. You will get better at the stuff you try to improve on. You also need to be willing to put over a hundred hours into single minis, and paint multiple of those 100 hour models every year between practice models.
>>98475888Believe it or not, coomer skin is still good practice. If coomer models keep you painting then more power to you.
>>98476083It's similar to training a muscle. You absorb the theory, then try really hard, then take a rest period to let it all sink in before repeating the process. You can speed up the process a bit through practicing deliberately instead of just doing a lot of work. By deliberate I mean, don't just repeat, but analyze what you're doing, what your failures are, and how to improve.Enjoying art is almost required to keep up the practice, and having a muse helps with enjoyment. In normal terms, drawing/painting sexy girls is motivating, use that fact to your advantage.
>>98476144>what your failures are, and how to improve.Ill start paying more attention to that. Again, thanks.>having a muse helps with enjoymentI noticed that a while ago went I started thinking and writing lore for my armies and models. Now its grown into a whole notebook of lore brainstorming and doodles.>drawing/painting sexy girls is motivatingI've yet to paint a goon model, I'll look around for a model. See if i'm inspired or not.
>>98476190>I've yet to paint a goon model, I'll look around for a model.If you don't have motivation problems, you don't have to. But generally; sexy girls keep male oogabooga brain's attention.
>>98476239>But generally; sexy girls keep male oogabooga brain's attention.I am an immeasurably better painter now than I used to be because of this, and the skills do help me when I paint non-coomer models as well.
>>98476254Yeah, it's just biohacking, lol. Hijacking the brain's reward system to get work done.
>>98476292This is why I hallucinate having an anime wife who relies on me. If it weren't for her I would let myself just bed rot into homelessness but because of her I have to keep going and hold myself together.
>took me like 1hr just to get the eyes in the right spotThe right eye on this head is impossible to paint. Anyways, what color should I do for the hair?
>>98476455>Anyways, what color should I do for the hair?Magenta-purple.
>>98476457I’m already using magenta and purple in my scheme for the cloth though
>>98476477>>98476455What about pure white? Much akin to SoB hair. I think it would match the skin and the purple cloth
>>98476455leave it black with a white streak
>>98475398Nice work! What's the mini?
hehehehe
>>98476033Well, it looks like a moustache now at least.
>>98476654Nice, how are the fluid physics?
made a new treasure token as a break
>>98476654Please, I'm begging you to paint your models.
Taken before I ruined the pauldron with crappy freehand
These seem perfectly reasonable
>>98476699They're very smooth.
>>98476669Lovely stuff.
>>98476691diarrhea base. why?Show the pauldron cowardOtherwise its got a real nice vibe to it. I really dig the choppiness of the colors
>>98476701for you
>>98476699Anon, if you want to win my eternal approval, make the next one's sway with the movement of the body.
How do I get surfaces to be gunky and crusty like this? Is this a texture paint? Glue and sand?
>>98474123>i don’t understand it so it’s not validGotcha. Next you’re going to tell me that oil washes are a meme. You’re proving some points to the audience but they may not be things that you wanted to prove.There are people that use pigments though, and not just for weathering. The more interesting question is how to fix a colorant that has no media to cure, but merely a solvent to flash off (maybe). There’s a proven technique for this but it invalidates your argument. In the unlikely event that you haven’t already googled this since I mentioned it to you and don’t already know that answer, would you care to take a guess at it?
>>98476688ignore this guy. model your models in blender and paint them on your computer.
>>98476726
>>98476758>The more interesting question is how to fix a colorant that has no media to cure, but merely a solvent to flash off (maybe).you can't which is why it's a meme like using a pencil to panel line or using a sharpie to color in a ding on a blued steel part. you think you are being clever but you aren't.
>>98476654>>98476688>told to paint models>models paint insteadTruly this anon is a menace.
>>98476934picrel >>98476859It's totally possible to fix pigments in place without ruining the effect. Just like it's possible to fix sharpie in place. Pencil on the other hand, that's much more difficult. Though you wouldn't know, since you think pencil is for panel lines, when it is actually usually used for metallic paint chips. You don't know shit about what you're blabbering about, and you need to post models to prove me wrong.
>>98476934You jest but anon admitted to having not painted anything /tg/ in 6 years, painting busts wasn't rustling enough jimmies so anon has moved further off-topicThis is what happens when a bunch of faggots ITT insist the gate not be kept, every inch forgiven will be another mile lost.
>>98476851Some of us are just kind of shit at basing/don't want to spend money on tiny plastic shrubbery.At least we all know what the weather is like on planet Diarrhea.
>>98476953That's not true. I painted a space marine in December!
>>98476968I'm very unhappy with the blue on this one, brush was not dry enough, planning to go back over with blue then gold again.Potentially unpopular opinion: If a kit is going to be mono-pose I don't mind the snap-together builds where no glue is required. It's not like you can't just cut it all down and do what you like with it, I remember anon kitbashed those flying nid primes into warriors.
>>98476971Fuck off, you're only here because other spaces laugh at you.
>>98476457I decided to just fade in the magenta
>>98476993That looks pretty awesome.
>>98476987Anon really only gets praise because he's working at 75mm+ I don't think the "skill" translates to 28mm, really leaning on that expanded scale.
>>98476726>WhyBecause the base is a WIP. Here's the pauldron
>>98476699>>98476748secondedthe tits already look great. The only remaining step to perfection is the implication of jiggle physics
>>98477036What basing material is that?
>>9847702575mm and busts are harder than 28mm
>>98477051This isn't true. It's much easier to get an equivalent level of detail on a 75mm figure or a bust when compared to a regular mini.
>>98476993looks metal.
>>98477060Except an equivalent level of detail will look worse at 75mm. Especially since these are painting projects and not wargaming pieces.Not to mention there are things you have to consider at 75mm that you can safely ignore at 28mm, e.g. texture.
>>98477182It's easier to achieve a high level of detail on a 75mm figure, and it's easier to achieve a model that looks better on a 75mm figure. It's easier to apply techniques like texture on a 75mm figure vs a 28mm one. "Safely ignore" is not useful when it comes to display painting, which are what 75mm figures and busts are almost exclusively. It annoys me when commission painters are trying to sell 28/32mm paintjobs, but their portfolio is frontloaded with 75mm+ figures and busts, since those are much easier to make look nice.
>>98476941>Just like it's possible to fix sharpie in place. ok now you're really memeing. what's next, you don't have to bake powder coat because you can just spray clear over it?
>>98477223>whats next, you don't have to [irrelevant example]come on man, we're talking about miniatures
Somebody should post a mini they're working on.I can't because I don't have any right now, but somebody should.
elminiturista just put out a tutorial for this and god damnreally makes me want to paypig for a slaaneshi army
>>98477266This is not the kind of daemon I would be summoning if I were summoning slaaneshi daemons.
>>98477243no we're talking about paint, and miniature paint isn't fundamentally any different from the paint on your car or on the walls of your room. let me remind you that this entire autistic argument that's been going on for months is only happening because some anons who get their painting info from sloptube insist that the solution to paint coming off is to just put more paint over it.
>>98477273what is it not gay enough for you?
Didn't like them at first but the new stealth suits have grown on me
>>98477287Yeah, I wanted to get some back when that kill team came out but it was always out of stock and then I lost the impulse. Nice clean little hoof guys
Agrellan Earth
>>98476699No leg? No head? No arms? Still would>>98476752Glue and dirt basically.>>98476968Nice bug>>98477036Good stuff>>98477287They cute
>>98477273unfortunately you don't get much of a choice
>>98477287oh hey the poopwalkers are back
>>98477245Rogre is getting ready to hit the pitch for the next game of my local Blood Bowl league. He's a little big for his base, and he's gonna have another lad riding him. I think he's supposed to be a proxy for a bonebreaker in WFB (never played, unfortunately), but the printshop I bought him from scaled him up slightly larger. He should work fine for Blood Bowl too.
>>98476595Syraxus, Tombwrought Arcanist
>>98475888>It’s been a year since I started mini painting>this result>mfwits so fucking over for me
>>98475888In no way did you start a year ago and get this results. You remind me of this attention-seeking women on instagram who claim the same exact bullshit while presenting their tyranids or space marines (which were obviously painted by her boyfriend).
>>98477266If it is like other tutorials of his, even if you do make it into the same masterpiece as he did, it will look like garbage in a couple of months. His stuff is incredible, but short-lived.
>>98477276Post wip.
i will spend the whole day batch painting shields and there is little you anons can do about it
>>98471030Varnishes don't just make up their current layer, they penetrate the previous layer binding it together while sinking even deeper increasing the binding power of the previous layer to the 9ne even deeper than that. That's part of the reason we classical painters varnish in between each layers, because besides creating a good bed for the next layer to sink into we can ensure the durability and strength of the previous layers preventing pigment loss when the painting begins to age. Varnish isn't a meme, its a classical technique.
>>98477937We can do stuff, stuff you wouldn't believe! :(
>>98477937I can ENCOURAGE you for spending time PAINTING your plastic like some HOBBYIST NERD
>>98475706I couldn't find STL but I still appreciate and thank you for the offer.>>98475833>>98475650So I guess it's set - pretending it's battle damage from some heat-based attack.When painting partially melted painted metal, should I add some special effects aside from leaving it gloss? Pure metal is usually marked by that blue-violet discoloration but no idea about painted one.
Finally found a method for painting bases like I want them and did 30 chosen, 5 possessed and 4 random characters. Now I just need to paint the rims. It's really nice making progress on something that had bothered me for a while. Just need to do the trim now.
>>98478034Paint peels from heat, look up heat peeled paint and scorch marks on things like tool boxes or burned cars in image search for references
>>98478038Looks great fren
>>98477741do you store your minis in a vat of acid or something?
>>98477736It’s a nice model but it’s not that good man lol
>>98478074No, but fluo/glowing paints he uses are not lightfast, they are fugitive colors. Even if stored in ideal conditions (in a dark, airtight, temp. controlled container), they will gradually lose their glow and turn into greyish-brownish mess or into whatever pigment was used as a basis the moment you start exposing them to light.If you keep them anywhere near sunlight (like a normal room), it will happen fairly fast (months). If you actually expose them to a direct sunlight, they start fading in days/weeks. You can help it a bit with UV varnishes, but it's just delaying the inevitable.
>>98478096I've heard this a bunch, can someone provide some before/after pictures? I'm curious how they look after degrading.
>>98478096I think I'll wait until a professional artist weighs in on this.
>>98478136You can get artist comparison tables, like picrel. Mind you, these are still a lot better than hobby fluo/glowing paints. What happens is that they will lose their glow and start fading back to their base pigments. So, say, you used neon green glow for Necron weaponry. First, it will lose the glow, and then turn into a very faded (and often spotty, blotchy) grayish green. >>98478147lel
>>98477245primed them all the ghostkeel is magnetized to be moveable now to fuck everything up with a bad paintjob
>>98478147Profesional artist here. It's true, fluorescent paints fade in intensity pretty quickly, but if you varnish and keep them out of the sun it's fine. We usually use fluorescent as a glaze for the effect only, not as the main colorant. So like if we paint a torch we'll do white yellow orange red blue etc, then brighten again with touches of white, thrn glaze with a fluorescent yellow, done. So if the fluorescent fades it's still pretty bright because the white was underneath. The only thing lost is color intensity. It's easy to repair with another very thin glaze too.
>>98478181Nice army
>>98477736Anime skin is the only thing I'm above average at, I guess. Mostly because I keep painting the same mini over and over. Everything else is just metallic paint and brow wash, i don’t know how to do TMM
>>98478096Fluo paints aren’t lightfast but it’s not exactly a huge difference before and after especially if you varnish. Definitely not to the point of looking like garbage lol.a decent chunk of hobbyshit fluo barely even contains fluorescent pigments
>>98478295Well yeah, but there's a world of difference between a white flat paper and three coats of thicc UV varnish, and a small, highly detailed 3D object that's supposed to simulate actual lighting. Besides, the point was that while Elminiaturista's models look incredible, it's a short-lived thing.
>>98475888>>98478242Definitely look into guides for NMM and volumetric highlights. Your skin is great (though not 100% perfect), and your eyes are on point. This is a very promising start considering you've only been painting for a year.
>>98478302>there's a world of difference between a white flat paper You undercoat white when painting fluo on minis almost every timeFlatness does not change the properties of the paint>and three coats of thicc UV varnishYou can see the unvarnished example right there>and a small, highly detailed 3D object that's supposed to simulate actual lightingThis has nothing to do with the properties of the paint.>Besides, the point was that while Elminiaturista's models look incredible, it's a short-lived thing.Which isn’t true
Do hobby acrylic fluo paints even use special pigments?I use the AK ones but they justfeel like just extremely thinned colours.
>>98478329>Which isn’t trueDo you speak from experience, or is this some theoretical debate for you? Because fluo paints not being lightfast is just a physical property, there's not much to debate here. What I'm saying is nothing new, really, you can find people saying the same thing ever since elminiaturista started being popular. >Flatness does not change the properties of the paint>This has nothing to do with the properties of the paint.Blotching and inconsistent coverage = the biggest enemies of any gradient and/or OSL effects. It looks meh on a flat paper, but it will effectively kill any effect like that you have going on on a model.
>>98478350Are you speaking from experience or just talking out your ass? Fluo paints look 99% the same and if it looks like garbage after a few months in the sun it looked like garbage to begin with. Maybe if all you’ve seen is lazily applied shitadel.
>>98478363>I have no idea what I'm talking about>But I must create an argument about itI see you've been in touch with your feminine side lately.
>>98478339Both, some pigments do it naturally, some require an additive. A uv black light or bug zapper light can reveal them.
>>98478377It’s time to stop, shitposter-kun
>>98478436Then I might be retarded because I never even considered they might actually give that special effect, I always thought they were just especially bright and saturated paint named, hence the need to paint them over white, and treated them as such.To be fair even Vinny V described them as such in his video about some fluo paints, never mentioning any special property or issue with long term exposure to light, instead just using them to pump up vibrancy on normal coats just like I do.
>>98478539*named 'fluo' for marketing reasons
>>98478539>they were just especially bright and saturated paintWhere do you think this saturation comes from, anon?
>>98478339>Do hobby acrylic fluo paints even use special pigments?Trick question, there are no fluorescent pigments. They're all dyes which is why they are so fugitive. This has no effect on the paint consistency, they're likely just formulated thin because you'd only ever use them for glazing.
>>98478582Technically the dyes are made into pigments before being put into paint, hence why you can purchase the pigments separately
The ultimate brush has arrived!
>>98478737wheyy crafty upgrading his toolsgood on ya
>>98478745everyone is craftsperg now, so tiresome.
>>98478768except for all the professional artists!
>>98478768nah he recognized the unwashed 56% hands
>>98478779If you paint you get your hands dirty.
>>98478779>>98478768no, it's the camera, that's his camera
>>98478833Based on what? The filename? That's just Opencamera.
>>98478849and the grain, that's craft-kun's grain pattern
>>98478856Okay there....
>>98478863oh dear, am I glowing again?
Me? Pro artist.You? Seething slopper.
i havent posted my hands (or feet) on any chan in the last 20 years mainly because:A. dont want anyone to know im actually blackB. dont want anyone to recognize me
>>98478917I was gonna say nobody would care that you're black, but then I remembered that guy a couple months ago who had a spergout at another anon for even mentioning they played with a black guy.
>>98478917You're not, just virtue signalling.
>>98478941Only craftsperg had some /pol/shit tendencies itt. And since he's some Amerimutt mystery meat, so it kinda checks out.
>>98478971Lmao, go back.
>>98478991Don't blame me for your ancestry, sperg.
>>98478917Why are you black?
Pivoting from the bickering. Anyone have project ideas that they're sitting on, but haven't pulled the trigger yet?I'm thinking about making a diorama around this mini for a painting competition next year, but I need to go to one of my local print shops to get it made because I don't own a printer of my own (don't try to convince me to get one, I've considered it before). The mini is just really evocative to me, I can imagine it using it's stilts to wade through dank swamps on long treks.
>>98477982this is totally wrong. did someone tell you this or did you just make it up? actual varnish will penetrate wood because wood grain is porous. clear coat will not penetrate paint because paint is designed to be impervious. just think about how stupid you sound for a minute. how pointless would it be to paint metal to prevent it from rusting if water could simply penetrate through the paint?let me give you a real life example that shows how you are wrong: hydrodip film. if you don't know what it is it's basically a giant waterslide decal. just like waterslides there's nothing actually gluing it down, you just clear coat over it and hope it stays in place. if you have ever owned anything hydrodipped you would know this doesn't actually work and it's only a matter of time before it starts peeling and flaking. now maybe you are going to say "but my decals don't peel off," but that's only because you barely touch them. if you were using your mini as a keychain ornament or something you would run into trouble sooner or later.
>>98479035>paint is designed to be imperviousMost paint is not impervious.
>>98479090>how pointless would it be to paint metal to prevent it from rusting if water could simply penetrate through the paint?
>>98479025That is a cool mini, and I love doing swampy basing, sounds like a great project! I've been sitting on a large 30k Thramas multi-army project that I'm itching to get to, but I've promised myself to knock out a few minis lingering from other projects first.
>>98479035 >>98479178I'm a professional artist. I promise you varnish penetrates the layer of paint to which it is applied. Paint is not impervious or it would never oxidize or flake off and paint stripper wouldn't work.paint is just pigment with a binder. It's not magic. As an art restoration expert I can lift previous layers of varnish and paint as needed using rather mundance chemicals diluted to various strengths, do touchups and then revarnish to hide the changes and preserve the painting for a longer time. Canvas, wood, lead, plastic, resin, etc are all porous and acrylic medium us too. It's just latex and synthetic latex/vinyl, which means it breathes amd off gases and breaks down when exposed to air and sunlight. Varnish helps but it can't stop the process, but it provides strength to the paint and helps it to bind to the substrate by filling gaps left by air during painting and the gaps between the pigment grain. Some of the best artists in the world made aqueous paint without binder, water only, for rapid drying for demonstration purposes varnishing between layers to fix the paint, similar to how pastels are done, buildong up strong impasto. It's not advisable for long term paint durability, but it works. The technical mastery of the venetian method ensures a longer lasting painting because the priming layer is worked into the canvas and then hematite applied which absorbs later layers and vatnishes. In miniature painting our priming layer acts as the hematite and chalk layers providing tooth and an absorbant surface. This is why painting on titanium white is never advised. It's too slick and non absorbant. But chalky whites, earthy browns, and lead is perfect. I teach these things in classes if you are interested. $$$
>>98479277>I teach these things in classes if you are interested. $$$weren't you dying of terminal illness last week?
Uncertain about the blue fabric. Might be too vibrant. Or maybe I need something punchy amid the drab once I get beyond a couple of units to stop the army looking too boring. Using the blue on guns an option too.Plasma coil glow/heat not where I'd like it but first attempt I don't hate.
>>98479277you won't believe me even though I have posted proof before, but if you have a laser engraver you can burn paint off one layer at a time. there is no penetration. each layer sits on top of the other without intermingling. I don't give a shit what people painting with oil on canvas were doing 300 years ago. we are talking about modern polymer based paints on plastic. I have certifications in spray on coating application. I don't need classes from art school faggots.
>>98479008Projection at it's filthiest
>>98479363>a laserthis is pigment blocking photons, it's different than the chemical physics aspect of varnish penetration.
>>98479363Linseed oil is a polymer, how do you think linoleum is made?
>>98479363why would anyone come to finno-ugrian basketweaving forum middle aged mini painting sub section and try to throw their weight around with art school diplomasure we are painting but we are painting silly little models not 2d paintings and surely not any masterpieces
This is what you get when you start interacting with local schizos. Don't give them any attention, simple as.
>>98479422no I mean you use the laser to selectively burn through layered paint at different depths. for example you can paint blue over red over white and burn away the paint to make an american flag without using a stencil. each layer is fully intact underneath the ones above it. this wouldn't be possible if paint penetrated the layers below it like art maestro anon is claiming.
>>98479518you only need to burnt he pigments, not the medium and that can be done selectively with ease as an inherent part of how lasers work.
>>98479518Yes it would, paint is made of pigments of different densities, shapes, and sizes
professional autist hereI fucking hate you dumb ass niggas for taking the shit bait and engaging with the nutcases EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME
>>98479593what bait?
>>98479533>>98479553this is a laser set up to engrave steel, it's not "only burning the pigment." the entire layer is being removed.
>>98479593i dont mind the spergouts if they spice the thread a little bit and they have something to do with paintingmany times some completely stupid and inane bullshit post have turned out to be an actual beginner who cannot tell his thumb from his big toe but managed to cook a shitstorm of /40kg/ magnitude
man that was a lot of trim and i gotta highlight it still but at least i did the clean up for when the brush went onto the plate itself ignoring for now the fact that i will have to do it on the weapons later, but at least went faster than what many people try to pass it off as
>>98478737A quick bit of freehand on a scrap of plasticard to try the new brush.The bulk was done with my synthetics, just some finishing lines and cleaning edges with the new brush.>>98478745I will not upgrade my material though, but I think the other anons here are on to something and you just got a lucky guess.
I'm choosing not to question the logic in jetpack air intakes right next to long free flowing hair, although I think this technically isn't a jetpack anyway
>>98478038Man, the slaughterpriest with hackblade is such a cool mini, it makes no sense why GW took it OOP.Solid work on the bases, anon
>>98480049FOMO as a business model only works if Missing Out is part of the business model.
Currently working on a scum market type terrain. Obviously a WIP and trying to make a gun shop. If it turns out well, might make a med-shop, slop-shop and so on. Depends on whether I can make it pop or my crippling depression gets in the way of everything.Yes, the 'cloth/sheet' is a pepsi can
>>98480049>>98480085R E C A S TECAST
>>98480292good luck anon looking fine so fari hear some people make pretty realistic cloth from pva soaked paper towels or actual canvas
>>98478339>>98478582What are the fluo meant to be used as? Because I'm not sure if they're just paints made for glazing only or something else.
>>98479939>brush soapI am not sure if I am misusing that product somehow or my cheap brushes just die quickly or both. How do you use it? Like is there a technique on how to roll it or rub it on the soap for lather? Is lather not supported to reach the metal ferrule? Does it make Tamiya's brush conditioning fluid I saw at a hobby shop that sells Tamiya and Mr. Hobby paints unnecessary?
I need two tables for my miniature hobby. One for the hobby stuff like paints and supplies and another for airbrushing.How are Aliexpress basic tables (no drawers) and how are magnets for magnetizing the bases of miniatures? If anybody has bought a table and is satisfied can I get pics and a link to the vendor? Same for the magnets?
>>98480566my flgs owner of 30 years told me straight that its just a scam, dont waste your money just buy normal cheap non scented hair conditioner or a good i dont remember what kind of bar of soap and it will last you a lifetime
>>98479962>local pirate risks life and limb to loot fasterthats pretty in character brochacho
IF THE SHORTAGE OF N25 3X2MM MAGNETS DON'T STOP SOON I'M GONNA ACT UP
>>98480566Soap is soap. It's just a lubricant that makes dirt, or in this case paint particles, slide off a surface more easily. You just want to use the right soap for the surface you're cleaning, which in this case is a bunch of delicate hairs.That doesn't mean you need specific brush soap, any soap meant for hair will do. You just don't want something too aggressive, like dish soap, 'cause it'll make the hairs brittle.
>>98479939pretty cool freehand. The light placement is triggering me though, please pick a side.
>>98480762It's spess, light is from every side!But really I didn't plan shit, just made it up as i went.
>>98476748>>98477042I'll try my best, but I'm no professional artist.
>>98480618>liquid hair conditionerI can see that working. If you can ask about what kind of soap from your lgs owner I’d appreciate it. Hopefully the soap bar is better than hair conditioner.I got brush soap because I saw that dr Faust tutorial and he also brought up a W&N brush cleaner I think but when I looked it up the recipe and container are changed so I’m not sure if for the better or worse.>got two soaps one the small and other the medium
>>98480796There's no planning involved.Good freehand though, make more.
>>98480729Are those the best magnets for magnetizing minis?Is one usually enough for a 32mm based metal model for upside down transport?
>>98480871You've clearly mastered boobs, push your limits, the world is yours!
>>98476699I have bought silicone shaper brushes because of you.They and my ap greenstuff tools are what I have at the moment for greenstuff work.Love your work.
>>98476851This reminds me of the brap dwarf mini painter. How does one avoid texture paste basing look like liquid poo?
>>98480871Anon, do some skindentation, it does wonders for any tits.
>>98480883>Are those the best magnets for magnetizing minis?For plastic minis yes>Is one usually enough for a 32mm based metal model for upside down transport?Metal models are really heavy, you'd probably want 2 or one ideally one 6x2 which is enough for them hang upside down and never ever come off even if you shake them like crazy.
>>98480883>n25 3x2mmnot even close for a plastic model, that's an arm magnetfor a metal model i'd say n42 5x2 minimum
I've been hard at work on this Centaur RSV in the last few weeks. Pretty happy with how my first painted vehicule is turning out. Currently working on the five guardsman that are part of the miniature in that little diorama in the cargo bed. I'm astonished by how I'm already better at painting the little details compared to my first unit of Cadian Shock Troopers. Though I'll admit I would've thought I'd be done with the Centaur by now, I'm really slow.
>>98480937>>98480943Thanks guys.I’m gonna spend a comically long time researching about magnet sizes for bases of metal models.I think the 2mm in height is fine for bases of the gw style though
>>98480908Use it alongside cork or rocks and paint it.
>>98480873actually i happen to have one of those soaps but i dont really use it because i mainly use cheap synthetic brushesit needs to have some oils in it thats basically the gist i got from his explanationalso shields
>>98480980There's no research involved. N52 3x2mm for plastic, 6x2mm for metal.The thing is, 90% of the magnets on shitty sites are not n52 (even though they're advertised as n52) but n32 which are significantly weaker.
>>98480943n25 doesn't exist
>>98480729there's a shortage? I just checked mcmaster and they have tons of magnets listed for sale.
>>98481030?>https://sdmmagnets.com/affordable-neodymium-magnets/
>>98481019What’s the best place to buy magnets from?
>>98481545Are you seriously fucking asking this right after a link was posted? You stupid asinine bitch, fuck a rusty pipe.Fuck.
>>98481656What?
>>98481545The north pole obviously. Every compass points there, the place must be full of them>>98480873 >>98480618 >>98480566Any bar soap willwork, i usually use ivory because is white so easy to see paint coming off and it's super cheap, kirks castille soap very strong need conditionerevery time after, but i also use clear glycerine soap on occasion, it honestly doesn't matter at all, glyercine shaving soap is great if clear, not if it contains titanium or clay though, col conks was the best but they changedforumla do fuck them, goats milk soap is good, caprina brand. Even itish spring is good but kind of rough on brushes. Masters brush soap is good but not the bars, the bars contain abrasives for stubborn paint. I use ivory or clear glycerine soap for flow improver surfacant while painting sometimes. It all works okay. Technique is rinse in clean watet, run some water over soap to wet, under gentle running water brush backwards on soap bar letting hairs open and water rinse paint away, repeat until clean, apply human hair conditioner, shape tip by brushing backwards on hand, set aside to dry, rinse before next use, simple as, if brushrs ruined you are letting paint migrate towards ferrule, the metal part, keep paint beliw 1/3 of hairs, if migrate rinse immediately, keep brush moist while painting by frequent swish rinse in water jar and run backwards on moist kitchen sponge before more painting, never let dry until session over, or you might be leaving brush in water tip down, never do that, just rinse and lay on table flat, saves the tip from ruin>>98480871Pro boobs though
I know it needs a fuckload of work, but this is my first mini ever. Am I at least going in the right direction?
>>98481765He's looking pretty good! Something that would make him look even better is going in with a dark brown and using it anywhere there's a recessed area in the gold armor. You can use black or dark grey instead, if you prefer. The addition of these shadows makes all your details stand out more.
>>98481778Thanks for the input. I have some nuln oil and flesh wash I can use.
almost done with this trio
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>>98479025One dioarama idea I've been thinking about since I got into minis was a squad of death korps soldiers pinning a traitor astartes in place while a melta gunner or plasma gunner blows his head off. I've just been mulling it over in my head thinking about how I would do it knowing how the death korps minis go together and how I would want them to be posed and I think I still need to work on my kitbashing skills before I should try something like that.I want it to be nice and detailed with the death korps clearly overpowering the astartes but not without injury, with the astartes holding tightly onto some legs and arms or kneeling onto another trooper and clearly breaking important bits and pieces as he does. Im mostly just thinking about how I want the special weapon to be interacting with the rest of the diorama, with it either being the moment before the astartes is killed or the exact moment he is killed with there being a nice big splash of plasma or melted ceramite going over his upper torso and onto another guardsmen trying trying to get a good headlock on him. I might get some offbrand death korps and astartes models from etsy or something if I get impatient and want to try it out but I definitely think Ill do a better job at it when I get good at using green stuff and cutting plastic minis precisely.
>>98481765Looks awesome anon. You have very good brush control just based off all the smaller details like the purity seal and aquila. If you have more metallics, doing stuff like little rivets and bits and bobs in different colors can make your mini really stand out if you aren't confident in doing more detailed stuff, but I don't think you'll have much trouble with that.
