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What's a pile in move? I thought if you charge with a unit, all the models in that unit are now touching bases with the enemy unit?
>>98486256Read the fucking rules you mong.
>>98486256>Look at Consolidation>It either let's me move around the enemy unit or go directly to another unit within 3 inchesSo it's basically just free movement.
>>98486256https://gdmissions.app/11th/rules
>whip that moves on its own doesn't have extra attacks>whip that's two and a half times as long as its wielder is tall has no reachNever gonna make sense.
>>98486251boringmarinesmarinesI lieg orgs %^}(you)(you)
>Chaos's victory condition was capturing Cadia, now that they've captured it they've proven themselves to be a serious threat>The Ork's victory condition is capturing Armageddon, if they take it, they'll prove they're capable of defeating tens of thousands of Space Marines in battle and will have a staging point to launch invasions of the Sol system>The Eldar's victory condition is getting Ynnead to kill Slaanesh, and would likely mean a reversal of their fortunes that stops their decline>The Tau's victory condition is taking Maccrage, it's the only planet in the entire region that the Imperium remotely gives a shit about and Guilliman would pour disproportionate resources into defending it, taking Maccrage would thus mark the end of the Imperium treating the Tau as a non-threat to ignore
>>98486285engagement range is 2" now how much extra reach do you want?
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
How many Arbites do you own?/v/ and /vg/ are convinced GW did some massive Arbites push and forced all devs to add Arbites to their games alongside model releases since GW really wanted to sell them.
>>984863060
>Wanna get a flier unit as they look cool and fun>Apparently they all fucking suck on the tableSo how do you use them?
Kroot blowjobs, worth the risk?
Well, that's it for the time being. Undoubtedly there will be maybe 2 more releases sneaking in over the course of the edition, but otherwise this is it for the Ork refresh. I think it's fair to call it a win, though one or two sore points for me, the most recent being the Nobs - what I'm seeing is pointing to a far less modular and interesting kit than what it's replacing. It really seems to be literally just 5 torsos built the same way every time (previous kit had modular chests and shoulder pads), and then your choice between two loadouts - plain old choppa and kustom shoota, or the "snazzy" version of a big choppa, or double klaws, or whatever - shoulder pads *may* change between loadouts, see the double kustom shoota guy vs. his generic build, shoulder pads change there, but not for double klaw vs. generic build.Another one being that we just didn't get any particularly exciting new toys? I don't need the range to bloat, don't get me wrong, but man I just want us to either get a real heavy duty tank or even a medium duty one.
>>98486285>lucius the eternal>retard's only gimmick is he revives when killed>no revival mechanic>kharn the kharntrayer>no revival gimmick whatsoever>has revival mechanicworld eaters on top like always
>>98486285>Warrior prime literally born 20 minutes ago is better with a whip than the dude nolifing his for the past 10,000 yearsEmbarrassing
>>98486251>TQ(s)Nobs look goofy, bikes look greatEldarEldarI am quite fond of green fellasPerturabo maybeno idea maybe he doesnt like orks
>>98486317You play 6th or 7th edition
>>98486306>/v/ being wrong about everything once againBesides kill team arbites can only be taken in imperial agents army, which is already a low player count.Arbites have always just been a cool thing from the fluff because they're 40k judge's, of course a game company is gonna use it if it's cool.
>>98486296Abbadon threw a hissy fit and blew it up when he realized he COULDNT take it And thrnthen lead a crusade so utterly embarrassing GW had to retcon how long it lasted
>>98486306Oh yeah the massive push that was a single kit 3 for Kill Team 3 years ago.
>>984862978" with sustained hits 2 is only fair.
>>98486327The superior Lucius.
>psychic levels>fatty's schedule was tau/custard/deldar after sm>aka non psychic unless golden fags developed some now which would likely make them level 4 because custard>every army that actually had means to interact with PsyPhase would have to wait over a year while orks and sm mow them down
>>98486306It's a conspiracy because both Darktide and RT released Arbiters DLC at the same time (well, 1 day apart) and both were shit which led people to think it was GW meddling.
>>98486357>DT arbites>shitliterally the easiest most braindead class in the game, retards can solo auric maelstroms with arbites
>>98486357>both were shitfuck that slander. I love playing darktide as arbites.
>>98486352while zenos is kino saying X is the superior lucius is free, he's the absolute worst
>>98486285They’re giving everyone and their mother extra attacks now. I bet he gets em in the 11th codex.
>>98486356You are assuming that psychic armies will suffer against Orks and Marines because they will have better psychic mechanics. That's wrong.Every army will suffer against every new codex because the new codex are going to be so overtuned 9th edition will look like it didn't have powercreep.
>>98486320>New 40k video game releases >The 4 factions included are the Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Mechanicus, and Chaos Space MarinesHow would you feel?
>>98486281So pile in basically means just get your models in a unit as close to 2 inches as possible to the enemy unit? And I'm assuming if one of them cannot reach those 2 inches, they can't melee but the others within 2 inches of the enemy unit can?
>>98486370Every army is already suffering against orks.
>>98486371Dark King is slop.
>>98486360>easiest most braindead class in the game … retards can solo auric maelstroms with arbites>>98486362>I love playing arbites :D
>>98486377Have you even looked at their new datasheet? That's nothing compared to how much they are going to suffer in a month
>>98486379The Dark King shit always did feel pretty grimderp, "Ooooooh the Emperor is evil ooooh the Imperium is baaaad ooooooh so spooky"
>>98486331You can ally them into any imperium army, but all the imperium armies besides Knights have important army rules they don’t get. And I’d rather just have more armigers or an assassin than shartbites.
>>98486306You’re genuinely better of asking in the side game thread to see if people use them in necromunda
>>98486387retard
>>98486384Maybe. Right now orks can have extra leaders in units which is pretty broken, have to assume that's going away. If they get points rises for their new elite boyz they might calm down a bit.
>>98486306true, there’s been a weird push for arbites even in the ork range. look at this orkbites just revealed today.
>>98486399Did they have leaders with those faux-support rules that weren’t made into supports or something in the mfm? Kinda gay but should be fixed in the new codex sheets.
>look at 10th edition rules>wow looks like dogshit, skip edition>look at 11th edition rules>wow looks like dogshit, but they keep saying it's better>play it>It's dogshitBy skipping the edition I don't have the reference frame for 11th being an improvement to anything, so there's really no reason for me to play it. I guess that means I just don't play 40k anymore.
Why the hell have they made the manufactorum an online only website? I used to print the list and it was easy to do thanks to it being a single page... Now you can't easily download it let alone print it.They call it "restructuring" yet it only brings downsides.
Is there a reason why some KT never gets added in the main game while others are almost instantly added in?
Playing 2000p of IW tomorrow against GK, my first game in 11th. Wish me luck
>>98486399You aren't seeing the writing on the wall. Even if Ork boyz end up costing 200 points for 10 and they become shit, something else will be broken as hell. When GW starts giving every unit a dozen "cool" special rules the game turns to shit extremely fast, and this happened literally every time.
>>98486410okay
>>98486414What KT are not in 40k?
>>98486410>i guess that means im nogamesyeah we know mate
>>98486414Which one do you mean? Sometimes they’re just made up of models from units that already exist, but I think all the KT’s with unique models get added to 40K.
>>98486421Did you know that some people have armies for more than one game?
I finally saw a good deal on ebay for slightly painted units wish me luck
>>98486430fuck off to that games general then and stop stinking up this one
>>98486430But that's against the law of console wars.
>>98486393He's right. Dark King is just a bad attempt at "grimdark" and it just comes off as pompous and retarded grimderp.Doesn't help that Dark King has basically never been mentioned to even exist in the setting before it first introduced in End and the Death. And even in that book it might as well be irrelevant filler shit that doesn't need to exist because the entire "problem" gets solved in like 1-2 pages probably even in less time.It's>dumb>never was set up>never mentioned before>pointless filler>bad attempt at "grimdark" and instantly falls flat>a non-issue that gets solved in the story just as fast it was introducedIt's like how Erda's character is fucking useless and pointless in Saturnine. She's walking, talking plot device whose only reason to exist is to vomit up inorganic exposition in form of her shitty backstory to Grammaticus (why is she even telling him all of it?), who is only visiting her because Gram thinks she might know a way to get inside the Palace (news flash: she doesn't, so visiting her was fucking pointless)Both Saturnine and End and the Death 1-3 were all written by Abnett. So his shitty, pointless exposition that does nothing just is his style.I don't understand how people see this guy as "peak" of 40k literature. If Abnett is the peak, then I fucking dread as to what rest, shittier writers, are like.
Outside of aesthetics, why play Chaos Marines over Loyalists? What do they have that is better than something the Loyalists get? Or nothing they have is better, which is why they're bitter.
>>98486375>Reading Eldar rules>Reading Sudden Strike>Each time a model in this unit makes a pile in or consolidation move, it can move up to 6 inches instead of 3I don't see how this would affect Pile In over Consolidation as you can move to a new unit entirely.
>>98486410Or you could play an older edition you know. Or the thought of not doing what GW wants upset you?
>>98486443>Outside of aestheticsThis is not the game for that.
>>98486414They literally just added the Exodites for Aeldari
>>98486443>Outside of aesthetics, why play Chaos Marines over Loyalists?They are normies who want to play as the 40k's posterboy faction (space marines), but don't have the balls to just play as loyalist marines, so they go for the "good guy army but evil" thinking they are contrarians and "free thinkers".
>>98486443The Emperor is a bastard and his imperium sucks, it is only right it be destroyed
>>98486251 (OP)>What’s your least favorite faction?The Votann. Genuinely wtf do they add to the setting? I don't even hate them, I just don't get the point of them.>What faction do you hate most?The Tau. I get the whole "fascist counterpart to the Imperium" thing they're going for, but it doesn't really work when they're such a joke. It's like, you can make the Nazis threatening, you or can make the Nazis goofy, you have to pick a lane. The Tau are too small and incompetent to be threatening but too malicious and cruel to be played off for comedy so it doesn't really work.
>>98486443Aesthetics is like 90% of why choose any army but sure:You want to play the bad guysYour local community is Imperium-heavy and choosing CSM offers a more narratively appropriate opponentThe idea of daemonic war machines and mutations is appealingDark Pacts and things like it are a fun mechanicYou are a buffoon who wanted to get into 40k with a lower model count army, not taking into account that each model demands twice or more as much time because of all the trim and bullshit, couldn't be me.
>>98486306i thought that conspiracy was about admech
Traitor guard/chaos cult tourist from a few threads ago; is this an okay list for my first game? My friend is probably gonna be running his world eaters as usual.995 points chaos cult:dark apostle with amulet of tainted vigour(65+20)dark commune with incendiary goad(90+25)20 cultist mob(90) champ with bolt pistoltraitor guardsmen squad(70) sarge with chainsword, boltgun 1 grenade launcher, 1 sniper, 1 plasmatraitor guard power weapon, boltgun on sarge 1 flamer, 1 gl, 1 plasmaanother guard squad power weapon, pistol flamer, melta, plasma2 16 model units of accursed cultists(195 each)fellgor beastmen(60) champ with plasma pistol 1 with great weapon, 1 with corrupt stave3 nurglings(45)
>>98486443Loyalist marines have the ability to do individual things better than them but they get split up into mutually exclusive codex supplements. Black Templars have better melee, Blood Angels have better assault, Salamanders have better shooting, but CSM is like a jack of all trades, master of none of each of the chapter supplements.
>>98486443I could tell you, but then that one guy would start seething
>>98486454Emperor was right about everything and did nothing wrong.
>>98486306R BEE TAYS
>>98486488sneedperor did everything wrong and ruined humanity
>>98486497The Emperor was an enlightened centrist trying to fight against the evils of fascism, he did nothing wrong.
>>98486467I’d only run double-wide accursed cultists if you have a dark commune with em for that one turn advance and charge to make sure you get them in. I can’t tell what you’re attaching the second one too, guessing dark apostle? You could be fine making them a small unit. And try to hide as you move em up. This’d free up some points for at least one traitor enforcer for a guard unit, and maybe a beast of Nurgle to go with your nurglings
I'm working on a Vyper and trying to decide how I want to approach doing the hull. Like what kind of pattern or whatever I'm going to do. Show me your Vypers!
>>98486441>Doesn't help that Dark King has basically never been mentioned to even exist in the setting before it first introduced in End and the Death.The Dark King was introduced in Horus Rising, dumbass. The concept is more than 20 years old. Older than you are, probably.>(why is she even telling him all of it?)Because he asked.>(news flash: she doesn't, so visiting her was fucking pointless)It actually wasn't. Erda sends Leetu with John to help him save Earth (and by extension, humanity). I'm starting to think you haven't read any of these books.>Both Saturnine and End and the Death 1-3 were all written by Abnett. So his shitty, pointless exposition that does nothing just is his style.The Dark King plot was built up from Horus Rising and finally resolved in TEatD Part 2. That's what all his exposition since back then was for, to finally reveal that the Dark King was the Emperor all along, and then resolve that plot thread. >I don't understand how people see this guy as "peak" of 40k literature. If Abnett is the peak, then I fucking dread as to what rest, shittier writers, are like.Yes. The others really are that bad.
There's literally nothing Chaos Marines have that is on a per model or per point basis better than Loyalists, especially not after the Defiler was nerfed into the ground. But, they do look cool as fuck and looking cool as fuck is half the battle.
>>98486467That list is nearly all "chaff" unitsYou need some bigger "damage dealer" units, preferably ones that also have more staying power than spamming t4 infantry. One blast weapon attack placed right could wipe 1/4 of your army as-is.A loyalist guard roster has tanks for the role I'm describing, something like that.
>>98486387>"Ooooooh the Emperor is evil ooooh the Imperium is baaaad ooooooh so spooky"That's always been the case. People are just pissed that they can no longer pretend otherwise.
>>98486524If the Imperium is evil then it is the lesser of all evils presented to us.
>>98486497Emperor was justified in everything he did.Kill gods. Behead gods. Roundhouse kick a god into the rockcrete. Slam dunk a god baby into the trashcan.
>>98486517Legionaries shit all over tacs/intercessors iirc just in terms of variety and damage output for the cost.
>>98486513>The concept is more than 20 years old.Wow, that doesn't make Dark King any less retarded and dogshit however.It being old as fuck and being forgotten for 20 years is a proof of the fact it was fucking awful from the begining.
>>98486548>become the same type of god you were (supposedly) fighting againstwhat did he mean by this?
>What did you think of the new ork reveal?Big fan, can't decide on if i prefer the dual wield shootas or big skorcha.>>98486443Their actually fun to play unlike marines, you can put a list tougher and 90% of the time it just works with that 10% being weird janky skew lists.
>>98486528>then it is the lesser of all evils presented to us.The entire point of the Imperium is that it didn't have to be as wretched as it is, but the systematic fuckups of everyone involved from an early age led to what it is now. We know what a 'less evil' Imperium looks like, it was the Great Crusade Imperium, which while still autocratic and feudalistic, and still forcing everyone that wasn't in a position of power to work bone-crushing labor shifts, was at least functional and gradually improving over time. The Mechanicum was becoming more open-minded to technological progress thanks to the Emperor's meddling, the Administratum and Senate were still competent with Malcador overseeing the bureaucracy, the military forces weren't fractured to avoid rebellion and it was still expanding rapidly throughout the galaxy. It was far from perfect, but it had a real chance of becoming a true utopia. Horus ruined everything, and even after the Heresy, it has only gotten worse and worse. So no, it is not the lesser of all evils, it's not even close to that. The only dimension in which Imperial life is superior to the alternatives is in survival. That's all the Imperium is good for now.
>>98486513>The Dark King was introduced in Horus Risingit was introduced in 1992 actually
>>98486559>The only dimension in which Imperial life is superior to the alternatives is in survivalThat's not true, there's like 3 other worse options that are even more cruel than the Imperium.
>>98486556>Wow, that doesn't make Dark King any less retarded and dogshit however.Sure. You can disagree with the concept, that's fine. >It being old as fuck and being forgotten for 20 years is a proof of the fact it was fucking awful from the begining.People were theorizing about the prophecy told in Horus Rising and who might the Dark King be for a long, long time.
I like orks :D>been daydreaming for years about having an orky villar perosa for italian fascist goffs>this gets revealed todayabsolutely perfect.
>>98486585XD ECKS DEE XDXD :DD
>>98486578And theorizing doesn't the fact that the the whole idea was forgotten and ignored for 20 years, for a good reason, because it fucking sucked.Like it has been proven back then and proven again since End and the Death, it's slop, it's unfettered ass in quality and it makes the story and book worse because it only exists to waste the time of the reader that gets solved in 1-2 pages. The gravest fucking sin any writer could do. Don't try to defend shittily written garbage.
>>98486504yeah maybe I shouldve specified; both the commune and apostle go on the accursed. And from what Ive read and looked up accursed cultists are like the strongest units this detachment can play? So I thought I should have as much of them as possible. Combined with the enchancments and stratagems they can actually punch up tougher stuff, but yea Im fucked if they die.I was thinking of using an enforcer or 2 but they seem kinda bad and not worth the points idk. Definetly wanted a beast of nurgle but Im kinda starved for points, maybe I could ditch the mob or the beastmen(I pick em for the flavour)>>98486518I was under the impression chaff is how chaos cult is played. And for the blast issue I think the play is to shift the dmg from your accursed to your shitty mobs or guardsmen with the mortal thralls stratagem. And again; I would rather shower with napalm than play a normal guard army.Im mostly iffy on the guardsmen weapon selection but it probably doesnt matter. I could make 1 accursed smaller and ditch the beastmen or squad, make 1 or 2 smaller mobs(2 10model mobs cost 10 more than 1 big one) and put some actual meat and damage but I rly dont wanna use marines for this list, maybe a tank or hero unit depending on the points
>>98486552Two powerfisfs, two chainswords, and a lascannon for 90pts. Still unmatched value man. Plus you can stick a sorcerer on them and throw em in terrain, welcome to the cage match, because you’re gonna have to go in there to clear em off.
>>98486556>>98486513EIGHT POINTSEIGHT SKELETAL HANDS COMING TO CRUSH THE GOLDEN LIGHTEIGHT RUINOUS POWERSIN THE EYE OF TERROR WHERE THE TRAITORS LIE
>>98486620Yeah AC is the best imo, but you can really make em zoom with a dark commune between the advance and charge and the desperate pact from the detach rule. I’d just retool it to have 2 AC/DC bricks as the core.>I was thinking of using an enforcer or 2 but they seem kinda bad and not worth the points idk.They used to be cheap, but what happened is people were running them solo, sticking 2 of them in a noise marine rhino with Cypher as a little jump out gang, and they were so hard to kill for their point cost so they pumped it up in 11th. Only way to fix it now is if they gave us a traitor command squad and made the enforcer and ogryn a support duo. That way they could be cheap again.
I think I understand Pile In a little bit:>Say I have Howling Banshees attacking a Rhino>But nearby one of my Howling Banshees is a Chaos Marine>If it's within 3 inches AND my Banshee is in coherency with the other Banshees in the unit, I can both melee the Rhino with my other Banshees and my 1 Banshee that's facing the Chaos Marine can attack the Marine instead of the RhinoDid I understand that right? Where I can basically attack 2 enemy units with 1 unit as long as they're both within engagement range and in coherency?
Played a game against my guard friend today, 2k points combined arms + abhuman detail vs Creations of bile. Over all felt like very middling as far as a dice roles went but I enjoy hanging out with the guy so it evened out. I’m kinda starting understand why guard players have been bitching the past month because I don’t think I’ve had a game against guard where I was able to continue just pushing up the board practically unchallenged.On a side note defilers even post nerfs feel good to run but not absurdly broken like previous, not quite an auto take anymore but close. Ended 75 - 49 my favour, I felt quite bad about this one as guard is my friends main army and he seemed quite dejected about it.
>>98486447Honest answer: The value that 40k has had to me in the past is that you can show up to the game store for pickup games with whoever else shows up because it is the most played game, it requiring any prior arrangement completely invalidates that value. In practice since I skipped 10th edition I don't really do that anymore, and most of my wargaming is done by loose prior arrangement with the same group of people "I reserved a table for battletech at [Xstore] on [Yday], you coming?" or "We doing horus heresy on [Xday] at [Ystore]" etc, or are part of some kind of campaign system or league or whatever where everyone knows what they are doing and when. I almost certainly could arrange to play some older edition if I wanted to, but I don't really have enough preference for 40k in particular to do that over just playing something else.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98486654Damn iron warriors with actual effort put in to them? Nice anon.
>>98486653Yes. And if you have a second banshee unit that didn’t get to fight before the rhino and marine died, they can get in engagement with something else during the overrun move (which is like pile in #2,) and get a fight phase with that now.
is the lack of any movement in the narrative cowardice, laziness, prudence or incompetence?
>>98486664It sounds like you grew out of it.
>>98486675So if a unit dies from another charge, but the first guys I charged with didn't get to fight, I essentially get to move an extra 3 inches closer to the enemy to make up for it?
>>98486620Any "chaff" army is built around a few big damage dealers among the horde while the horde units eat up enemy hits, give chip damage to all enemy units and slowly work forward for objectives/screening. Your traitor guard are still squishy and have no way to avoid enemy fire beyond either "just don't be the target" or "be out of range."If your opponent has a Forgefiend, that's your entire horde gone in 1-2 attacks. Same goes for any unit of his with "torrent" weapons (flamers, etc).You would struggle to kill that Forgefiend in response to it wiping your cultists; it's t10w12, your strongest weapon is s9ap-2 (guard grenade launchers) and you only have 2 of them (but they have very little staying power because they're in infantry units).You should at the very least invest in a dedicated anti-vehicle/monster unit.
>>98486651>I’d just retool it to have 2 AC/DC bricks as the coreId really want to, but then I dunno what to do with the apostle since only he can use the amulet of tainted valour, which seems too good not to use with AC. Being limited to only 2 AC and 2 enhancements in 1k really limits my choices imo
>>98486699Yes. So if you’re using an infantry chaff unit to prevent an important unit behind them from being charged, make sure that screen is spaced tight enough for models to be forced into base contact with them, unable to move through, and make sure the screen is more than 3 inches forward.
How can I make this landraider more Nurgly. I don't have chaos landraider parts but I have a lot of emblems and doodads. Maybe drill little pits and craters?
>>98486693Genuine question.Do you just spend all day on reddit looking at shit memes to get angry about, just to have a meltdown about primarchs on 4chins.
>>98486714Get a hot glue gun and give it pimples/boils, some solo, some clustered, then come up with some sort of transition from armor plating to flesh around them. Either abrupt and geometrical like cutting broken away armor with flesh underneath or just a shimmery glaze transition like the plate is phasing into skin.You could also get some polystyrene tubes and make some pipes.
>>98486443I like to play evil dudes that worship dark gods. Also, man, I FUCKING LOVE THE RANGE. It's the best.I love every single thing on it, from the lowly cultist to the Daemon Prince. My only crux is I don't know how to fit a Dark Apostle into a Tzeentch-only warband because that would be retarded. We need more Dark Mechanicum dudes thoAnd updated vehicles.And a new Helbrute with fucking knees.And more named characters from the Traitor Legions. I really want to see Erebus and Kor Phaeron nowadays.And Lorgar.And Perturabo, I wish they had given the Forge of Souls to him instead of Vashtorr, would have made is ascencion to Princehood make more sense. Actually, I don't like Vashtorr. Nor do I like really like this >>98486650 Eight/Nine Gods thing, or more like, they did it like shit by making half of them some version of Tzeentch, and I don't really think Daemon Engines should be THAT important in the grand scheme of things. I love them as a means to an end, aka fuckign with the meturiums' non-living shit to fuck with the living shit, but I fail to see how they are worth a piece of the whole pie.
>>98486559Name a single faction better than the Imperium.
>>98486708That sounds different from what I described though? How does Overrun Fight trigger here? I thought this happens only in the Charge phase and only if the one getting charged gets killed before the fight phase.
>>98486743CWEtau
>>98486627I like to slap a dark apostle on a brick of 10 melee legionaries. They can punch so far above their weight class with the apostle and pacts that it's actually ridiculous.
>>98486746CWE Eldar would gladly leave humanity to die if it meant they got to surviveTau are just straight up fascists
>>98486745No, overrun fight happens in the fight phase, it’s specifically a way to fight that involves you getting another pile in on that unit only. It’s not like another pile in step where you repile everything.
>>98486749retard or bait
>>98486754If the Eldar got their way, like 99% of the universes's population, save for themselves, would die. If the Tau got their way, the galaxy would be enslaved under their totalitarian state and subjugated to the state's will.
>>98486705I think you are underestimating ACs with commune/apostle and the stratagems/enhancments the detachment has. From my understanding and the mathhammer examples I saw they rly can punch up, if they have to. I dont know how they would fare against a forgefiend but trying to tickle him with the guardsmen probably would never be the play. If he actually uses his turn to kill my 20-40 model blob of fodder thats a minus on his action economy while I got do obj-s and take over the map. Atleast thats how Ive seen it being played out in the miniscule amount of games I could find with this detachment.But fair: what would be an anti vehicle/monster unit I could pull thats not a marine?
>>98486754He's baitingHe's been posting this same shit hours a day every day for a week now
>>98486753Okay so basically:>Charge enemy unit with 2 units>Fight Phase activates>One of my units I charged with kills the entire enemy unit>The other unit I charged with never got to fight so Overrun Fight activates and I move an extra 3 inches towards another enemy unit with the ones that never fought>Combined with Sudden Strike when playing Eldar, I essentially get an extra move phase
>>98486747That sounds pretty good, I’ve never ran 10 legionaries though, only used em as 5-mans, what do you do for the second power weapon slot just run plasma pistol and chainsword for more melee?
>>98486780Usually more chainswords and plasma pistols, yeah.
>>98486739>nineThere's only oneThe Unspeakable One.
tau are gay
>>98486810Fascists often are
>>98486251Forty-kay? More like, for-the-gays!
>>9848669340k is a setting not a narrative.
>>98486764>while I got do obj-s and take over the mapYou only retain map control for as long as you have units, and you're also forgetting his own infantry doing the same thing. If you take an OBJ and then lose the unit, he gets that obj next turn if he can step on it.>anti vehicle/monster unit I could pull thats not a marine?Your own Forgefiend is the only thing that REALLY meets that request.CSM is built around using Predators, Vindicators, Obliterators and so on. The list just isn't built to actually do what you want it to right now.
>>98486693If the story changes too much it might impact the game, which is the thing all that stuff is in service to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9GIHq4UeU
>>98486693It's a sign that you don't belong here.
Should I always replace the Heavy Weapon Platforms in an Eldar Defebder unit with the other Platforms? Or should I have multiple Platforms by themselves?
>>98486326I do agree the new nobz seem to be the weakest kit of the bunch, it seems like the let the KT team design it from the ground up instead of the 40k team then letting kill team add some stuff .Also I would put the new Warboss kit at S tier soooo many options and finally a Blood Axes style head.
>>98486251Stats for Rangda macrobeests?I'm thinking:10"T16SV 2+W100LD6+OC30Attacks with paws [Melee]A6 WS 4+S12AP-2D4
>>98486414Yes, sometimes for example the new Raptors for chaos are a core unit and thus at 6 months ish get added from KT to 40k. The actual cycle is supposed to be 2-3 years when KT editions cycle. So everything will eventually make it into a 40k box but unless its a core unit it will be a long time. Like those exodites will probably take the full 3 years.
>>98486517Except for Legionaries you are correct. Our predators even got nerfed compared to loyalists. And NOOOOO loyalist army would dare ever take a predator, but in tenth it was common to see 3 in GT winning lists when SM wouldnt be caught dead with 1. >>98486443You play chaos for the Drip. If it wasnt for aesthetics there is no other reason you would play an army GW keeps in constant suffering.
I LIKE GSC
>>98486864Yeah me too. They're a good modern infantry tactics feel
>>98486822bro its chaos cult; flooding the board and not letting him move and make him waste time is what I want it to do, not to go into meathead fights. Like ffs does every army have to be played the same? Saying you need a forgefiend to win against a forgefiend sounds retarded at best
Is there any Space Marine head that resembles a barbute helmet?
>>98486890berzerkers have one
>>98486890
>>98486871someone needs to come paint my army though, this is going to take forever
>>98486875None of that is what I saidWhat I said is that "flooding the board and not letting him move" is only possible if your units don't get folded over every time they get attacked. Currently, your roster lacks a way to not get folded over every turn by blast/torrent weapons, or at the very least, lacks a way to keep that fodder on the table via killing/distracting the things that'd kill said fodder.>Saying you need a forgefiend to win against a forgefiend sounds retarded at bestI'm not the one saying that, you are because you refuse to use any "Space Marine" part of the Chaos SPACE MARINE roster. That roster is reasonably (as per the name and total roster) intended by GW to include said Space Marines. You set the arbitrary limitation to not use them, the only person who is making it sound "retarded" is you trying to turn an apple into an orange so you can play traitor guard in a way that the game is just not meant to do as-of right now.
>>98486251When is this smug cunt finally gonna get a model in 40k. I want him for my Word Bearers army.
>>98486921yeah righto ratfag thanks for letting us know
>>98486387The Dark King is GW beating you over the head with the understanding that daemon bullshit is literally "the secret" style manifesting. Daemons are storybook monsters who work on storybook logic and try to force their autistic fanfic on reality.They tried to meme the Emperor into becoming the fifth chaos god, then when that didn't work they tried to meme Horus' dark imperium into reality but that didn't work either.Fabius Bile is right about everything. Stop fucking listening to daemons.
>>98486371That's fucking cringe, 40k should never have a release without Xenos.
>>98486693>lack of any movement in the narrativeIt's not a narrative it's a sandbox
>>98486443Chaos is fun dude. Despite GW's best efforts to take chaos seriously they're just a bunch of mustache twirling villains and thats fun.Thats why the Word Bearers and Night Lords are the best legions. They're just unappologetic bastards and proud of it.
>>98486664>battletech at [Xstore]At Vault, right?
>>98486513>Yes. The others really are that bad.Peter Fehervari shits all over the majority of the trash. Christ Wraight is also far better.
>>98486964Xenos unfortunately don't really matter to the setting.
>>98486997Said no one who matters, ever.
>>98486650I don't know why they made the Emperor a god of encroaching ruin when they could have made him the god of self dissolution instead. The god trying to use chaos against itself which is exactly what he did when he made the primarchs.I feel like it would fit better.
>>98487010Nulore ignore, the Emperor isn't Chaos at all.
>>98487013it's lore from 1992 retard-kun
>>98487013Bro The emperor has been turning into a monster for an extremely long time.
>>98487008TRVKEImperium ball-polishers are largely worthless beyond their spending habits.
>>98487017No it is not.
>>98487027literally in the 1993 and 1997 supplements, look it up.
>>98487027dark king and the starchild are in articles from 92, retard
>>98487037>literally in the 1993 and 1997 supplementsGee anon moving goalposts already? What happened to 1992? But okay why don't you tell me exactly which of these documents says the Emperor is corrupted by Chaos?
WHO HERE JUST?
>>98486985No. I don't know where that is.
>>98487047Yeah, which articles?
We should get Chaos Eldar>BUT WHAT ABO-Shut the fuck up retard it would be cool and it does exist in the lore despite your headcanon. Eldar who have pledged themselves to other forces of chaos to avoid slaanesh turborape? Yeah it would be kino
>>98487063Doesn't giving their souls to other chaos gods stop them from reincarnating?
>>98487053white dwarf 92 and 93 respectively
>>98487063I actually agree but only if GW goes completely batshit crazy with their designs and makes them feel completely unique
>>98487048>>98487053I'll accept your suicide now
>>98487069Yeah those are in 1987 and do not say anything about the Emperor being Chaos corrupted because the Realms of Chaos books had not even been released yet. Nice try.
I HATE YOU LOREFAGS SO MUCH FUCKING REEEEE
>>98486650There never was a plan behind the different points of the star, the only reason it even looks like that is because chaos is a massive Moorcock ripoff
>>98486956Johnny Space dad was on the ships."No! I must kill the demons""No, John. You are the demons."And then John was the demons.
>>98487078absolutely BTFObased
>>98487078Hey retard that's Realms of Chaos from 1990, why don't you get the date right and get a scan that isn't fucking shit, and also, point out to be exactly where on these pages it says anything about The Dark King. Those words do not appear. Not a single piece of it says anything about him being a Chaos God. He's the "embodiment of the uncorrupted warp" literally written right there on these pages. You are a lying illiterate faggot.
>>98487092You should probably try reading the words first before making a fool of yourself declaring false victory, retard.
>>98487101>i-it's the wrong yearirrelevant, desperate faggot>t-the dark kingliterally says he's not invulnerable to chaos, which is what you disputedKeep coping
>>98487108You said the Dark King lore is from 1992, you were wrong on every level, you lost. You didn't even read the pages you posted. The Star Child is a force of good and hope.
>>98487107He was right, (you) lost
>>98487063Man, I wish Malal was a thing. Maybe not as the dumb anti-Chaos Chaos guy, but I could do with a lesser deity of Darkness, Fear and Misery.
>>98487113Nice try retard but I actually read the pages. You both self-owned, posted your own destruction.
>>98487112>loses>starts crying semanticsand my personal favourite>>98487118>turns schizo
>>98487121The pages literally say the opposite of what you claimed, this cope is pathetic. You lost and posted your own L.
And here we go, another lorefag argument that will last a thread or two
>>98487126Doesn't, says he could be corruptedYou can keep coping all you want but (you) lostNo more free (you)s, I know desperate lorefaggots like you will shit up the entire general if you get attention after being humiliated like this
>>98487129The arguments already over, that faggot who posted the bad scan just didn't read it and is now going to keep doing retarded coping shit like this >>98487121 indefinitely, but anyone else in the thread can just read the section about the Star Child and see that he raped himself.
>>98487131>uncorrupted form>still hope for mankind>words "Dark King" appear nowhere ever even onceYou raped yourself, kek, Stuck your dick up your own ass.
>>98487129It's always over the absolute dumbest shit nobody cares about, too.
>>98487140NTAB you're both arguing two different things right now both trying to get a gotcha on the other oneNow shut the fuck up, nobody cares about lorefags
>>98487149Lore is the only reason this IP still exists after half a dozen editions of pure dogshit gameplay and worsening art and miniatures
>>98487153Ah you were both shitposting all along, who would've guessed!Have fun spamming the thread down
>>98487129I blame retarded Imperiumfags who can't get it through their lobotimized brains why some people prefer playing xenos or chaos. It never occurs to them other factions just look or sound cooler then Imperium shit to some people and if other options exist people will pick them.
>>98487149>nobody cares about lorefagsNta but lore is very important to warhammer 40k whether we want to admit or not.The problem is how anons always state their observations or interpretations as factual without even sourcing where they got their info from. I think many don’t want to cite the YouTubers they listen to.Even if the lore source is false it is still better than just “trust me or be lorelet” stuff.I kind of wish people jokingly self signed their observations and interpretations of 40k lore as booty crust or their gaping anuses for crude humor to lighten things up.
I've heard the word lore so much that I've started hating it
>>98487052Everyone knows where that is, we're all QUEENSLANDERS at heart>Bluhd Rahvens>Word Bearers>both fan favourites>both maroon
Goku solos 40k easily
>>98487049I always am all day everyday.Right now my pc is broke so I can’t modify 28mm imperial guard stls for my 40k army.
>>98486304Jewish
>>98487163Sloptubers becoming the main source of lore for newfags has done irreversible damage to 40k lore discussions. It doesn't help that most of the lore sloptuber watchers keep repeating are from shorts that are made for retards with low attention spans.
>>98487186have you tried going to computers?
>>98487186Have you tried turning it off and on again?
>>98486559>it didn't have to be as wretched as it isIt literally did though. It got to where it is because it aged out of its kumbayah phase after realizing that the galaxy is full of untrustworthy monsters that want to rape humanity to death. Sometimes literally.
New minis just aren’t posable like they used to be. I mean look at how awesome and posable this old kit is. You could practically make infinite variations out of these things
>>98487198(you)
>>98486761>If the Eldar got their way, like 99% of the universes's population, save for themselves, would dieEldar ruled the galaxy for 65 million years and were quite happy to let other civilizations do their thing. They didn’t even finish off the necrons.
I hope this guy from newcromunda gets a solo release or I can find him secondhand for cheap. That helmet and autocannon arm are begging for an ork kitbash.The rest of him can probably be used pretty easily too if mix n match my various leftover ork bits
>>98486749The imperium would gladly drive humanity extinct if it meant killing 10 extra eldar or tau
>>98486528It extremely explicitly isn't to the point that every single book of the setting opens with calling it the worst regime possible and the entire overriding narrative of the faction is about its sheer inefficiency, corruption and active stupidity making the place far worse than it needs to be.
>>98487221And that's based as fuck and objectively the right thing to do
>>98487198intercessors for comparison.
I unironically believe in the supremacy of necrotheocratic feudal autocracy.
>>98487190Yes.>>98487193Yes. I just want to modify my 40k proxy stls for 3d printing warhammer 40k models.Gonna send pc to a repair service nearby hopefully he is a good one. I’m not sure if praying to the fictional nonexistent machine god is more likely to fix my pc than asking for tech support on /g/. Hold me anons.
>>98487243Imagine being at computers
>a new toaster design? NOOO THATS HECKING HERESY!!!!>XENOS TECH IS HERESY TOO!!! EVEN IF ITS VOTANN!!!!! SERVITORIZE THIS MAN!!!!>necron research samples dont count ok? The machine spirits said it’s chill to goon to them o algoMechanicus are the biggest retards in the setting. I spit on mechanicus dogs.
>>98487114>deity of Darkness, Fear and Misery.He's got that explicit cannibalism aspect that the other chaos gos don't (Slaaneshi and khorne fluff has some small bands eat people alive but its not apart of the 'standard' worshippers day to day activities).I can see Malal as the minor chaos god of fear and misery being about inflicting the fear of being hunted and consumed by a more powerful predator and the misery of starving too death. So Malals mortal worshippers are hunters and predators but are also as rabid, unpredictable and dangerous as a starving person so you get the culutral ideas of that kind of monster from within like the Wendigo/mournguls from fantasy or hungry ghosts from eastern folklore. Malals slaves are ambush predators who are absolutely desperate and kind of mad and instabile who spread hunger like a disease. Man the sapien, reduced to Man the animal, the beast
>>98487232Yeah they don’t make em like they used to
>>98487248Mechanicus regularly study tau and votann tech when they get their mechadendrites on it thoever
>>98487247Yeah man. I got into this miniature painting hobby to get away from screens and now I spend time looking at tutorials and forums for advice and looking for a music playlist for my painting.
>>98487271Woah so much variety of posing!!!!111!11!11!
Who here magnetizes minis for transport?What magnets that are strong enough but not too powerful that they repel models away?Should the magnets always be placed in the center under the mini’s base?How are a series of stacked metal cake bake boxes that come with lids in a door dash delivery bag for a diy mini transport bag?
>>98487265I think you went a little too hard on the cannibalism but it could certainly be an aspect of it. I think the TES Daedric Prince Namira could be a good inspiration for this not!Malal. Sithis would serve well too.
>>98487280Yeah punishment for tech heresy is goyim only. Tech priests rules lawyer their religion harder than actual jews. And even then like half of them are hereteks so what’s the fucking point
>>98487271I love how even in their display models they couldn't glue that dicktowel on the sergeant properlypiece of shit bit never fit right no matter what
are there any other cheap flying crap units similar to gargoyles in any armylooking for conversion pieces but apparently harpies aren't a thing anymore
>>98487291No anon you can't talk ill of le old good new bad. Those models are superior by far since you get to choose between having your dude's torso at 14 degree rotation or 15 degrees, epic infinite posing variety!
>>98487299its always funny seeing a dude have a self inflicted meltie. just an image of a tactical marine got you acting like this.
>>98487294What are you looking convert? Dark Eldar scourges might be what you're looking for, otherwise check out if there's anything in the fantasy range.
>>98487305Do you mean the melty anon is having over intercessors?
>>98487305Nta but firstborn and pics of firstborn do piss off anons here. Even the word firstborn does it too.We’re seeing it in action right now.
>>98487283Yeah where's the monopose running man that sticks out like a sore thumb when there are multiple squads
>>98487314you see people randomly crying about primaris far more often but nice try
Firstborn you say?
>>98487271is this what all of the oldfags refer to as being sovl? the fucking state of it
>>98487316At least you can have running man pose and not everyone is popping a half squat
>>98487271That 6th Ed tactical kit is unironically one of the best versions of heroic scale GW has every made.It's sad to see that GW threw away all they had learned to chase after the weird truescale shit.
>>98487307trying to make some sort of mutant unit that fits the gargoyle profile for gscscourges look pretty sweet but look a lot more elite than the gargoyle statlinethanks though
>>98487271Deformed midgets all with the same pose
>>98487318Well the smugness out of you is proving my point.>>98487320Yes even the word firstborn in the context of vostroyan firstborn has set off some autists here in the past.Maybe mentioning this pattern can mitigate the meltdowns but nobody can be certain.
>>98487331trying WAY too hard
>>98487333Just repeating what I’ve seen.It could have been just one autist here and maybe he is gone post pdf hack.
>>98487328Maybe the weird winged ghouls from the AoS Flesheater Courts line?
>>98487178I don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds like you're having a lot of fun!
>>98487322>popping a half squat that’s pretty much all marines. you can see it in pic and then the armageddon box has the same “problem” with the exception of the deeply monopose tactical rock/running man models. that’s just the nature of being in a bulky suit of armor.
>>98487347false
>>98487339 (me)If I had to guess it was from all the PAK trolling that made some anons weirdly enough get angry at firstborn space marines in any warhammer related context.Again I haven’t seen this behavior post website hack so maybe the autist is gone.Best to use predecessor instead of firstborn to be honest. Unless you like seeing spergouts.
>>98487347>cherrypicks a new kit with the most bland poses
>>98487322>>98487347I like emperor’s children, so I’ll use this guy as another example.
>>98487350Why do the two standing still ones have their hips splayed like like a woman?
>female space marines aren’t rea-Apologize.
>>98487359oi, that's not a space marine, that's a void trooper, totally different.
>>98487341good idea, but they're like twice as bigyou jogged my memory though that what i was thinking of was furies and they still make themhave to think what i'm going to use the bird-dog things for though
>>98487288I just think that cannbalism could be the 'primal' emotional elemnt of Malal that isn't covered by the big four. Malal as the 'outer' chaos god like Sithis in TES has been given to Belakor who also has the shadow and darkness demon thing going on. Fear of starving too death is pronounced its one of the four horsemen in christian thought. So the chaos god of that fear embodying that conclusion of people turning their family and friends as being nothing but a food source would suit a chaos god very well. >ES Daedric Prince Namira could be a good inspiration>all creatures who feed on rotten flesh are her spies.>ritual murder and cannibalism to honor Namira>followers tend to congregate in dark or filthy places, reveling in their misery and the darkness.Kino. Power goes out in some forgotten part of an underhive and thats how a cult of not!Malal emerges, his rites can only be done in complete blackness in squalor and filth of his followers who are more like maggots than men(Def stepping on the toes of Nurgle a bit but whatever)
Hello!Eldar faggot here:Howdo you play Corsairs? They aren't their own army, are they?I haven't seen a codex for Corsairs....are they a download?
>>98487289The point is Admech get to monopolize any actual tech advancements for themselves and kneecapping anyone that isn't loyal to the Mechanicus that tries to innovate ensures that. Same reason the navigator houses will send assassins to kill anyone that finds some way to navigate the warp without them. Most important factions in the Imperium would rather fuck up the rest of the Imperium then lose their comfy positions.
>>98487178I am unfortunately a Victorian but thankfully I am not a turbofaggot like that would normally imply. However Maroon? For the blood ravens? stop taking the piss, they're red.
>>98487365That's kinda the domain they gave GHR in AoS since he ascended to the big boy's table. While nurgle is all about Deapair in the face of hopelessness and giving up, GHR is all about Desperation and the monster you're willing to become to scrape out survival for just one more day, one more meal or even just one more minute.
Malice should represent nothing more than the eternal struggle of all against all.
>>98487359If only the femstodes had their big unnaturals out on display, genetically enhanced for maximum appeal
>>98487188>>98487163If only Aeons of Battle and Majorkill would die all of a sudden....
>>98487384big custodes boobs are better when they get hot and steamy under tight armor
>>98487372Corsairs are just a few units for craftworlders. Deldar can take them too but corsairs suck for them
>>98487271>>98487283The posing you get out of tacicals is very subtle. But if you're running 20 modern Intercessors then you're gonna have several guys who are completely identical."Action" poses are for children and adults with sub 100 IQ. We need more ways to make our dudes /ours/ out of thr box without kitbashing.
>>98487385EoB is one of the best hobby tutorial sources out there
>the main shop that does 40k in my town doesn't allow proxiesJoyless freaks.
>>98487381Joseph sounds like he read way too much 40K fiction.
>>98487394>then you're gonna have several guys who are completely identical.this retard builds according to the instruction manual yet calls others children with sub 100 IQ what a fucking braindead retard
>>98487396Yeah and he should NEVER open his mouth about lore again.
>>98487403>without kitbashing.I'M NOT HIM BUT HE ADDRESSES THAT! IN HIS FUCKING POST! OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO RETARDED I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU!
>>98487396hey>>98487406this
>>98487388But then I don't get to see and paint them outside of my mind palace
>>98487408>kitbashingswapping arms in the same kit isn't kitbashing you subhuman mongoloid
>>98487408Swap the arms and heads you fucking retard
>>98487403if you like not following the instruction manual, then its way easier to do that with >>98487198 than with >>98487232
>>98487381That's pretty cool. I will say that a focus on cannibalism would fit with the eternal struggle of all aganist all Not!Malice could have. The breakdown of ties to the family unit, to the social circle, to the polis. Malal was about rare soltary champions who preyed upon other champions. So far fewer in number but each champion is so powerful, represented by pic related of a malal greater daemon vs a slaansh greater deamon.Bring on the open cannibals CSM I say
>>98487420for an inferior result! Such convenience!
>>98487394Gigabased. Fuck primarislop.>>98487398How? Even the sweatiest meta grey tide players at mine don't mind if I slap down tacticals with tactical-sized bases and call them intercessors.They're just happy to see someone with a competently painted army.
>>98487394The thing with older pose-able models is that to me at least, GW still sculpted the models to be more representative and game-piece like than literal scale model, which went well with the squat proportions. That's why while I appreciate the detail and more natural poses of modern models, they don't have the charm of the older ones.
>>98487424>inferior resultwhere are the results? in fact, where are the results from not following the instruction manual in the intercessors?
>>98486693narrative movement is awful, it explicitly damages the sandbox nature of the setting. Era Indomitus should never have happened.
>>98487429that little quartered kneepad is so cute. is be meant to be a former loyalist turned traitor who keeps it as a memento, or did he just knick it off a random marine?
>>98487436>where are the results? in fact, where are the results from not following the instruction manual in the intercessors?
>>98487420so true, check it!
>>98487446holy mother of mold lines
>>98487445No particular reason, I put little spots of color on my guys to give them a bit of individual flair. /mydudes/ are a sub-set of Black Legion who are the most bitter lost cause Horus/Abaddon loyalists you can imagine, several of them are actual veterans of the Heresy and a piece of their armor, usually the right pauldron, is kept in the Sons of Horus colors to show it. I take inspiration from the yellows and reds used in second edition era color schemes to prevent them from looking like smudges of black and dirty metals.
>>98487453Can we see your models?
I got the new campaign deck and there's cool stuff in there. narrative play is not dead. they have a lot of entries about how to set up different depending on which battle in the sequence it is, and the players switch off with dispositions, and it has its own terrain setups and objectives and stuff.I think I might set up a demo game and do some of these and see how it is. As soon as my terrain comes in.
>>98487446where did you not follow the instruction manual? you went so far to follow it, you didn’t even scrape the moldlines!
>>98487450>OH! I’M WALKIN’ HERE!
…models?
>>98487394This is what contrarians think looks good?They don't even care about their own models enough to stay within the lines lmao
>>98487481Let's see yours
>>98487372Hi!Why doyouType like this?Are you a......Reddit migrant?
>>98487481looks good to me tbqh, white and gold is a sexy combo.
>>98487463Oh shit? Thats hype
>>98487491I think hes talking down on the shoulderpads
>>98487483Learn to stay in the lines like the rest of us did in kindergarten
>>98487394>then you're gonna have several guys who are completely identicalNot me because I make slight modifications to change them up. You can do this to modern monopose, it just takes a little extra thinking and work.
>>98487496Shoulderpads can be correctedBeing a retarded Primaris bootlicker can not
>>98486416GL anon
>>98487446Yeah, looks maroon enough to me
>>98487503You'll leave them sloppy and amateurish like the mutant does
>>98487496still pretty good to me. trim is always a pain, and if he’s griping about something like in pic, then that’s a pretty good score. I’d say my bigger problem is the fact his banner is completely white. I know freehanding is a bitch, but at least slap on a decal.
>>98487498NTA but I really dont see any gap in qualityThe other guy just looks like he was a bit heavier on the nuln oil
>>98487503nta but I like primarisI also like the old shit too I just like stuff man I’m just a happy guy I guess
>>98487523This is literally youBased Tomar
>>98487516When I figure out what I want the chapter's symbol to be I'm just gonna order some custom decals. Or get some generic ones and find a way to make it interesting. My biggest concern is how they'll show up against the Screaming Bell shoulderpads.
Two more down two more to go, then I gotta paint the hover rhino
>>98487446This looks so good compared to mine :(
What the firstborn retard doesn't understand with the new kits is that they do not have the armour variations like the tacs do. The poses for the tac box has always been shit, and its why the primaris kits with armour variation get the most amount of praise lately.Is everything here just a bad faith argument?
>>98487523I can't bring myself to like them after the lore rapeEven of I'm willing to forgive the stylistic changes and my minor gripes with the designs, them just being something a random techpriest pulled out of his ass chafes me, plus the fact that GW completely waves away all of the serious problems that it should have caused. They wrote most chapters to be fiercely independent and narrow minded and I'm supposed to expect that they just rolled over and let these incredibly suspicious and convenient reinforcement in with 0 qualms?
>>98487568Just pretend its a nu-mark armour or move on with your life. 8th ed was so long ago it's unhealthy to still be upset about mandolls.
>>98487566>The poses for the tac box has always been shitI'm sorry, the diagnosis is skill issue. I'm afraid it's terminal.
>>98487563These look atrocious but I would still love this effort on the field.
>>98487575Post your well-posed ball and socket marinesTry not to post monopose heresy models like the last retard who made this argument lmao
>>98487575>no argument Concession accepted. Your models look goofy, like the rest of the squat marines.
>>98487573>nooo you can't just NOT consume the most current product? Are you crazy? Haven't you heard that newer = gooder
>>98487584you don't buy anything :)
>>98487584>n-nuuuuuu you have to love old product! Literally flawless!! They don't make em like they used to new bad old good!!!!!
>>98487584>noooo let me bitch and moan about something that quite literally means nothing instead of, >Ignoring it>building and painting models I actually likeUtterly pathetic, last (You)
I'd bet my next paycheck that half of you niggers started Warhammer with Corona
>>98487590Nigga don't start an argument if you don't want people to argue back
>>98487446>volumetric shading, NMM, freehand chapter symbol>FAT FUCKING MOLDLINE ALL ALONG THE SHIN AND FOOTThis has to be an intentional troll model
>>98487592do I get your paycheck if I post my falling apart 3e rulebook with timestamp
>>98487593He didn't start an argumentHe said he liked both and you sperged out
>>98487595I still got my assault on black reach. Wanna split his minimum wage?
I’ll be honest bros. I can barely tell the difference between primaris and firstborn. The only signifier is the little kneepad shield thing…
>>98487597>making a post longer than your average tweet with an opinion is sperging out
>>98487594I also got a chuckle from all the shitters dogpilling the best painted mini posted rn.
>>98486251would you guys consider science as part of the metaphysics of 40kt- non 40k enjoyer anon , who is curios.
>>98487579I don't know what I'm doing but I'm having a good time doing it
>>98487602this is a spergout little guy >>98487584
I feel like this general is really getting back on track. Yes, sir.
>>98487606They look great if your just starting then, everyone has to mess around with contrasts and thinning paints early so you're on the fast track to success king.
>>98487600Primaris are a whole head taller and slightly wider with way wider basesWhich is annoying because 2000 points of an infantry heavy list has you drowing your deployment zone with wide ass bases
I have a headache from too much tamiya. Pray for me bros.
Who here painting at work?
>>98487613It's always been on track meathead
It's wild how marinepiggies with absolutely tear you to shreds if you don't say their Primaris Cumslushers (TM) that were designed by marketers to have as many flat panels and sharp edges as geometrically possible aren't the greatest and that everything before 9th eddition isn't just a fever dream
>>98487592I started warhammer when I was 10 in 1998.
>>98487622I used to but my boss caught me and I had to stop
>>98487600Really cunt? The helmet is usually a huge giveaway, you're just being wilfully ignorant
>>984875922001/2 here, I've got a few 3rd edition codexes in storage but I lost my ork one (the best one) reeeee
>>98487637That's enough out of you ratfag
>>98487573NTA but I still haven't forgiven Bioware for what they did to Mass Effect. Time does not heal all wounds.
>>98487637No??? Theres the primaris helmet but a lot of primaris dudes have different helmets
>>98487630>Doubt
>>98487643Stop calling every Aussie ratfag you disingenuous shitlicker
>>98487632>Primaris Cumslushers (TM)Is that their new apothecary unit?
>>98487656Rama Rama ding dong.
>>98487656OK ratfag
>>98487656No sniffing!
>>98487597Thats not meIm happy anon that likes bothI dont argue thats just not how I get downArguing is DUMB
>>98487632>pretend grog doesn't even know what edition primaris came in.
>>98487563What units did you buy?
>>98487653All of the primaris helms are different to manlet helms. The standard helmet design is based on mkIV but still different. The closest in similarity is the nostalgiabaiting mkVII D:< helms. But I also mentioned helmets as just one point of difference, there's plenty of others.
>>98487672He's mocking grogs, it's just hard to tell with all the nested double negatives
>>98487671You shitpost literally every thread you're in, ratcuck
Bros I farted and it stinks so bad my dog ran off.
>>98487669>>98487668>>98487665So this is the latest shitpost huh? Enjoy the 24h
>>98487676I’m not autistic so I can’t tell the difference sorry
The should release a Peter Egon Momus model
>>98487686>posts a pic literally showing the difference >huurrrr blurr I don't have eyes but I'm going to continue this argument anywayLike I said, wilful ignorance
>sperging about primaris in 2016+10We have true scale firstborn sculpts. You just have to scrape off some wolfshit.
Which marine company has the stinkiest feet? This is hyper important for the game I am currently playing in.
>>98487695Alright spergy
>>98487685Ratfag is the only Aussie that posts here though
>>98487686The brow angle was reduced (made flatter) and set forward, and the grill angle increased (made steeper)The brow angle makes it look less "cartoonish"The brow going forward and the grill angle makes it look less "flat" (which also has an affect on looking "cartoonish")Those are the most obvious changes.At least that's how I see it; it fits alongside the "40k is SUPER SERIOUS, guys" push GW has slowly worked themselves into over the years.
I like ratchad. We should be nicer to him and AusGODS in general.
>>98487699Imperial fistsThey only wash their fists, not their feet
Where is the best place to get mini cactuses for basing?
>>98487702Compare and contrast >>98487271You really don't see it? Look at the sides of the helmets. Look again. If you fail to see anything you might need a check up at your local optometrist.
>>98487711I got some from epic basingfor free of course. You may be able to find them if you look in the archives for 3dpgI think I’ll put a nice big saguaro on the base for wazdakka
>>98487717so we're supposed to care about some little swoopy things on the sides of helmets?
>>98487724I thought there were no differences?
>>98487717>glup shitto mark v variant C (2) is totally different from glup shitto mark v variant D (1)!!!Sperg out at someone who cares
>>98487721Thank you friend. Temu let me down.
>>98487733Pic related >>98487728
>>98487728I never said that, believe it or not multiple people are talking to you
>>98487737That was the original argument. To join an argument in the middle but secretly argue about something different is in bad faith
>>98487675My current listChaplain (75pts)Librarian in Phobos Armour (95pts): Warlord5x Assault Intercessor Squad (75pts)5x Assault Intercessor Squad (75pts)3x Bladeguard Veteran Squad (80pts)3x Eliminator Squad (75pts)5x Incursor Squad (85pts)5x Infiltrator Squad (110pts)Invader ATV (60pts)Firestrike Servo-Turrets (75pts)Impulsor (70pts)Callidus Assassin (100pts)
guarantee all the imperiumfags who know every pattern of lasgun and every armor mark could not differentiate a d scythe from a wraithcannon to save their lives
>>98487635That's upsetting to hear anon
>>98487742Was this you looking at the store and picking out stuff you liked? I just went for the starter set
what the post says>I cannot tell a differencewhat spergy reads>there is no difference
Im okay with new stuff being madeThe old stuff already exists they dont need to keep making it the same wayIts fine if they do different stuff, gives me some variety
>>98487748At first yeah, I started with the assault marines and eliminators. But after I settled on the hawks as my chapter I got the rest of the list based on what would be handy in urban warfare.
>>98487622I used to at my old job at an urgent care when the provider would call out. They'd keep me on just to route phone calls if someone had an emergency and was too stupid to call an actual hospital. Anyway, during the coof the office got absorbed into the nearby hospital to help people there and they just left me alone in that office for like 2 months so I got a lot of painting done while on the clock. Was pretty nice. One of the nurses came in around the second month to raid some of our medical supplies and saw my paint setup and the bitch ratted me out to management, so they quickly found more stuff for me to do. I ended up leaving there like a year later and my current job is too busy for me to actually do any hobbying on the clock.tl;dr nurses are the worst.
I wfh and still don’t paint at work or even on my lunch breakWhen I paint I like to sit down and focus
>>98487765I’ll never understand people who stick their noses so deeply into other peoples’ businessNurses are some of the worst people in the worldApart from foul xenos that is!
>>98487771Thanks for letting us know, we were dying to find out what anon does during the day
>>98487711Styrofoam balls and toothpicks
>>98487775>worst people>people>xenosreported to the inquisition
>>98487513QUEEEEEENSLAAAAAANDEEEEEER
What are some factions with cool death stars? I play eldar and I really like getting a big ball of guardians + warlock council + solo lock + farseer + support weapon with a war walker on the side
>>98487798Based and maroonpilled. What's the most apt faction/army for sunshine state best state?
Uh oh, ratfag melty
Why is it that this general always goes to shit when it’s aussie hours
I think space marines are really cool.
>>98487807Flesh tearers entire founding schtik was they pulled a 1st fleet on their home world, declaring it uninhabit purely because the native population were still savages, as well as the massive lizards and climate.Plus their armour is the right colour.Besides that you've got other maroon factions like the word bearers, but the best way to go forward is just make /yourdudes/
>>98487357Bret Hart?
>>98487592I'm only getting into it now because of Henry Cavill
>>98486443Loyalists don’t have Daemon Princes.
>>98487592I started in 3rd
>>98486443Because loyalist don't have Chaos.
>>98487833>Loyalists don't have d-ACK!
>>98487822They are, but CSM are cooler
Thinking about painting a slaaneshi chaos knight. I want to paint it like a cracked marble statue, and in the cracks and stretched between the joints is red raw muscle tissue. Maybe throw in some silver nmm here and there, maybe a thorn motif.What knight chassis should I go for and are there any cool bits out there? Obviously the paint scheme demands a more “clean” look so I’m thinking it might be better to start from a loyalist kit?
>>98487849What do here feet look like bros?
What ever happened to RWBY poster?
>>98487890Don't know who that is but that pic is mad cringe
>>98487833Sanguinor
I want a sanguinary dreadnought
>>98487914How would it fly?
I got a fevah for the flavah. Which army is right for me?
>>98487918
>>98487924What kind of flavah...
>>98487924Flavor, you say? Join my warband, brother, and I myself with take you to the Flavor daemonWorld.
sign into my account one more time mother fuck and see what happens
>>98487916
>>98486370This is -supposedly- the new WAAAGH. Not that different than the old rule, except you can always reroll Advance, +1S and +1A is replaced with [ASSAULT], and units can get 'Riled Up' apart from your once-per-battle WAAAGH cry.
>>98487957He was posting in /aosg/ and /wfg/ the past day, sadly.
>>98487962Who?
>>98487957You consider a thread where you got quietly banned for posting your slop models once already solid? Why ban evade then?
>>98487962huh?
>>98487963>>98487965Replied wrong. Meant >>98487916 and not >>98487931
>>98487962that time a few months back when he tried posting in /aosg/ not realizing most modelposters here also have aos armies and got laughed out of that general in under an hour was fucking fantastic
>>98487971Does it have an AoS army or what was the play there?
>>98487974tried to ingratiate himself over there by acting like he wanted to get into aos and then instantly threw a fit when people laughed at him
>>98487975You're completely unhinged dude
>>98487968>>98487978Permanent means permanent
Does anyone know what the best and most up to date army builder website is? I normally use New Recruit, but I heard at the LGS that it is a ways behind with the 11e changes.>>98487971He tried being friendly in /wfg/, lying and using the same, tired phrases and slang. in /aosg/ he posted the same, tired memes. Probably the same file names as well.
>>98487975Man I wish I had been there to see it, kek>>98487978Sit down and shut up, adults are talking
>>98487984>>98487983I hope you realize how strange your behavior is by targeting randos on an anonymous board. Remember that this is temporary but eternities punishments are just that...eternal.
>>98487983I use this, pretty barebones since it is just a list building tool and doesn't give you any data sheet info, but fast.https://furka.github.io/40k-11th-list-builder/
>>98487986>randosyou have been banned over 150 times, including a permanent one that you've repeatedly evadedyou need to fuck off for good or slit your wrists
>>98487987Thank you, Anon!
>>98487990Struck a nerve did I? Stop being a vindictive dissociative lunatic and leave me alone you pathetic circus freak.
Doing this challenge but for fourth edition 40k with friends cause it looks more fun. Peep the list lads. Full list: 1998 pointsHQEmperor's Champion 90Accept any challenge no matter the odds +50Total: 200Marshal 80Power weapon +15Storm shield +10Adamantine mantle +35Artificer armor +20Terminator honors +15Master crafted (power sword) +15Bionics +5Teleport homer +5Total: 190 Master of sanctity 110Plasma pistol +15Artificer armor +20Bionics +5 Master crafted (crozius) +15Holy orb of Antioch +10Terminator honors +15TROOPSTotal: 151Crusader squad CCW+bolt pistols (free)5 initiates +805 neophytes +50Power fist +15Flamer +6Total: 141Crusader squad CCW+bolt pistols (free)5 initiates +804 neophytes +40Power fist +15Flamer +6Total: 146Crusader squadBoltguns+shotguns (free)5 initiates +805 neophytes +50Missile launcher +10Plasma gun +6ELITES: Total: 143Dreadnought 105Multi melta +10Venerable +20Extra armor +5Smoke launchers +3Total: 220Sword brethren terminators 5 terminators +200Heavy flamer +10Heavy flamer +10HEAVY SUPPORTTotal: 168 Vindicator 125Dozer blades +5Extra armor +5Power of the machine spirit +30Smoke launchers +3Total: 293Land raider crusader 265Blessed hull +25Smoke launchers +3Total: 148Predator annihilator 120Lascannons +25Smoke launchers +3DEDICATED TRANSPORTTotal: 58Rhino 50Smoke launchers +3Extra armor +5
>>98487986>randos>oh lookit me I'm very easily identifiable by the same pictures I post over and over>praise my models and "my" faction me me me!>huwhat I'm being pushed out and banned??>n-no you don't get it I'm a random I'm being persecuted unfairly!!!
>>98488003gay
>>98488005Anyone visiting here would see your post and immediately associate you with total lunacy, you can pretend otherwise but we both know it's reality.
>>98488011No argument? Nice concession
>>98488014Fuck off dung eater
>>98487928that shit goes hard
>>98488018You truly have nothing of value to contribute to these threads huh
>>98488027Ive been commenting peacefully for days until this pig finally outed me for his own pleasure.
Do we have many gsc players here? Except myself i can only think of 3 (the 2 that post frequently and that one really good painter that appears on most monthly collages)
>>98488030>commenting peacefullyLike what? What value have you provided?
>>98488019Thanks, here's an ok picture of the rest of the lads. I tried freehanding flames on a legionary's kneepad for the hell of it, had a good time, and decided to make it a binding theme for the Terminators.
>>98488036I'm not going through my history here to expose and explain it to you retard, act normal and talk Warhammer without your personal animosity.
>>98488046Wait are you the guy who keeps yammering about the tau being fascists?
>>98488046So nothing of value, no argument, not looking good m80. Permanent means permanent btw
Hellblasters
>>98488071I'm gonna end up painting an entire army before those hellblasters are finished
>>98488057the mutant also being bohemond would be very funny but unsurprising.
>>98486306I don't like how they look. The helmets are cool, but the armor is ass, especially the lack of belly protection.
>>98486443>aesthetics or what is betterFluff, nigga?
>>98486693It's the worst of a sanbox and the worst of a narrative.Incompetence and greed.
>>98487975Nice, now I'm jealous of AOS players because they don't have to deal with him.
If it's so easy to fall to Chaos, and every rebellion seems to involve Chaos, why did the majority of human worlds pre-crusade seem to not be Chaos-tainted?
I wanted to do a cavalry and armor list. How am I doing>500Rough ridersDeath ridersCadian troopsScout sentinelRuss Commander>10003 rough riders2 death riders1 Cadian troops1 Russ commander1 Russ demolisher2 scout sentinels1 armored sentinel
Are there Chaos Votann the same way there are Chaos humans, or are their souls dim enough that it never happens, like with Tau?
>>98488232Almost certainly
>>98488232it's way rarer, but it can still happen
>>98487592Mid 2000s I think. Forgot when. DoW brought me here.
>>98488232fuck off destinyfag
>tfw not famous at all but becoming slightly too obvious who I am and doxxable if I post imagesEeeh
>>98488259>/v/otrans destinyfaggotry>>>/v/
>>98488259skill issue
Some Destiny in 40k sounds like a good idea.
>>98488263I'm unconnected to the above conversation
>>98488268fuck off destinyfag
>>98488259FUCK OFF LEGEND OF TOTAL WAR WE DONT WANT YOU BACK
I don't have any faith in the console rts
>tfw the most optimistic hope I have about TW40k is it's Halo Wars 3 in a 40k skin>in other words alright but it's nothing like total war style
fantasy total war really was a lightning in a bottle
>>98488232>never happens, like with Tau?It does happen with tau thoughbeit, just super duper rare. Back when the Codex: Daemonhunters existed there was an article I recall that showed how to make a daemon conversion out of various factions, as the army had a rule to replace one of your opp's HQ units with a prince and you'd get extra points for killing it. One of the examples was a daemon bursting from a crisis suit. The Fire Warrior video game's playable character was also tainted by khorne, hence why he was slaughtering his way through everything. All this to say that yes, there are probably definitely Chaos squats out there.
>>98488269What is this and why does it look so sloppa?
>>98488269>thighshnnnng this is enough for me
>>98488232yeah, there's even a qoute that references chaos corrupted Ironkin
>>98487943these sound like good changes to me but I don't know orks that well. extra cp sounds really good until you realise it's max 1 earned per round anyway, so they can't access more for discarding secondaries or other things. It's not a huge bonus.
>>98488295>The Fire Warrior video game's playable character was also tainted by khorne, hence why he was slaughtering his way through everythingThat's not true.
>>98488295>a rule to replace one of your opp's HQ units with a princewhat a shit mechanic>btw replace your model with my model>also your army is chaos now
>>98488278I like the part where Bungie tried selling itself to Microsoft instead of just their IP. Big Bill Gates corpo cock was so delicious that even 2000s Bungie couldn't resist wanting to be MS's bitch.
>>98488298Louise Sugdens goblins which are like 100mm scale
>>98487916why did you make your dreads look so retarded, brother?
>>98487592I started with Assault on Black Reach I still haven't painted the Orks from it
>>98488308Well I'd sworn I'd heard that as a fact, but checking wikis is bringing up nothing, rip and tear. At least my other example is true.>>98488317>what a shit mechanicCorrect, but not for the reasons you think.>btw replace your model with my modelWho cares lmao>also your army is chaos nowNot necessarily. It was just one model, not the whole army. Narratively, your inquisitor could be chasing after some prophecy of a daemon summoning and it just so happens to burst into realspace when they're fighting orks or whatever.No the reason it was shit is that it was a thinly veiled attempt to get Daemonhunter players (all 3 of them) to buy extra models from factions they had no intent of playing.
Any one going to tabletop warfare tonight?
Nu orks are not bad sculpts, they just look too 3rd party. Too world of warcraft.
How are my lil primaris fans going today?
>>98488355No, they don't, you're just getting a gut reaction of "NEW BAD"
>>98488355>strength and honour replaced with LE ECKS DEE XD XD WAAAAGH :DD XDXD
>>98488356>lilthat's the firstborn
>>98487357The new EC models are great and show what we could have had instead of fucking intercessors. Even if the unit works the exact same way as intercessors it should still be called a tactical squad.
Should Daemons wear armor?
>>98487592I started it last week with Ork set.Before that I was a DoW secondary
I just realized so many Daemon Princes wear armor in all GW settings. Does it help?
>>98488355Nah they look lik propa orks. I'm just a bit worried about the nobz having fuck all in terms of options forcing you to build a schizo loadout. I like the clearly distinct three loadouts they have now, they just needed wargear costs back so that klaws weren't the clear best.
>>98487592I got into it because I enjoyed Rogue Trader and especially liked Yrliet's character and romance a lot, so I started playing Eldar.
>>98488395No, they stop looking like demons then
>>98488395Yes>Should there be a 'set' of demon armour made from material not found in real spaceAlso Yes>Should its design be unique from all the mortal races armours designyesGW need to go back to stealing great ideas from other people. The latest thing they stole was Morcock's stuff, they must mine TES if they want to expand deamons with vashtorr stuff
Eldar male x human female is and will remain canonEldar female x human male will forever remain an incel fantasy
>>98488395Only if it's boob armor
>>98487592I started back in 6th after being introduced to the setting by Space Marine and Dawn of War. Played Dawn of War 2 and finally bought some models.
>>98487592NopeI started with a box of metal swooping hawks and a metal warlock with 2H weaponand look at me now, with almost entirely Votann, Necrons and T'au. Where do the years go
>>98488395I think it should look bestial like it's an outer shell that's part of themselves. Like it's hard to tell if it's a separate piece or if it's joined to them..
>>98487592If it counts I got back into it during corona after like a long break but it was before the release of Dawn of War when I painted my first minis
>>98487943Have we talked about Orks getting assault ramps as an army rule yet? Because I'm pretty sure that's what that assault disembark special move they have there is.
>>98488232Their souls are resistant to chaos whatever that means.
I wish I started with 40k instead of... Magic... ;-;...So many years ....
>>98488490If you had been into 40k as long as us you would have been resentful towards the game by now the same way you are towards magic.
>>98487592Akshually event attendance during covid dropped considerably. People played less /tg/ stuff, not more.
>>98488503>event attendance>during covidhow retarded are you?
>>98488503Everyone was playing it via TTS during COVID.
>>98486956>Fabius Bile is right about everything. Stop fucking listening to daemons.Both him and the Emperor were right, it's pretty funny.
>>98486918Lookup any chaos cult game plz, at most theyd have a transport and those jumppack marines
Terra a shit. Everyone's souls are held down by Earth's gravity.
>>98488035Occasional lurker here - discuss lists and models but never posted my ownBarely have any time to paint so I've only completed one unit of 10 neophytes fml
>>98488490I guess we can still use models from 20 years ago but you have to keep tossing your cards in the bin right
>>98486956>Stop fucking listening to daemons.It's been over 2400 years and people still don't get it.
In my headcanon, Chaos saying Chaos is unstoppable is trying to convince you of so and therefore make it truth by belief.It is also my headcanon that each edition of 40k is its own alternative universe with all the retcons.
>>98486845Did you make that image? You did good anon! Also the stats need to be more obvious that the fluffy monster is invincible and destroys everything on the table.
>>98488632multiverse bullshit is lame, I'm sick and tired of that copout if you can't find a way for seemingly contrasting things exist, then one of them doesn't deserve to be part of the setting
Does anyone have a PDF of the Armageddon box lore book?
>>98488412What’s that image from? Looks like a video screenshot.
>>98488648Isstvan III batrep from Heresy Era.
>>98488503I would say that's not true for DnD thanks to Roll20 and CR. I would also argue that Warhammer didn't spike in physical players, but interest during Corona thanks to sloptubers, leading to more newfags when things loosened up.
>>98488638delete this image immediately
>>98488648Some of the best battle reports around, great mix of game & cinematic
>>98487964I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught that. it was so fast, the mods were likely lurking the thread waiting to see if the firstborn argument was going to turn into outright shitposting, and just happened to catch the puke models.
>>98488638Haha funnee pic, saved.
>>98488638I too will save this imageand share it completely randomly
>>98488638Astartussy
>>98487592I started in 2024 after playing Darktide, idgaf about being a newfag I play 2-3 games a month
>>98488776That's probably more often than most of us play. I dropped off hard in 10th edition myself. Now I play about once a month.
>>98488776Gotta admit I'm a bit jelly. I've only got the time to play around once a month, if that. I will get a game in tomorrow afternoon though. Dunno if I'll do a full battle report here but I'll definitely grab a few pictures.
>>98488776>he never played a real 40k game in his lifekinda sad
>>98488779>>98488787I only started playing at 2000pts very recently. Painting 100+ GSC models takes some time.>>98488811Better late than never
>>98488809oh throne! there’s a smaller second one coming in too!
>>98488390I fucking love them.I will not stand by any EC slander saying they’re too tame, or that they look lame.
>>98488809isn't that thing drastically bigger than any titan the imperium has?
>>98486320>get kroot gf>she bites your dick off mid-blowey>while recovering she gives you a hug and you feel something between her legsFUCK THIS GAY UNIVERSE
>>98488831It's only a model.
>>98487063>chaos eldarYes>chaos eldar that are just normal eldar but chaosSimilar to the Dark King space marines I find this lame.Gimme fucked up freak Crone Eldar.
>>98486356>tau so early againI dont feel so good...
>>98487063These look like fucking shit.
>>98488395Yes and no, if it makes sense that it's part of their essence. Demons can be anything that's a strong enough emotional reflection of something in the materium.
>>98488809>Titan that is hundreds and hundreds of metres tall moving towards your postion>Has an convoy at the front of enemy armour and smaller but still massvie enemy walkers>Your and your 5-7 buddies are holding out in the the last wall of a building as the rest has been destroyed kino.But also really fucking dumb wtf is a sniper going to do aganist mass enemy armour better to hide in place and hope none of the enemy decide to demolish that last piece of all as they go by
I hope joke/reference wins the collage poll eventually. You guys have any fun ideas you'd try out if it does?
Why isn’t there a xeno faction with knights
>>98488816which gsc anon are you?
>>98488857pick out valuable targets visible on the titangive information about the titan on the radioact as beacon for a surgical artillery strike
>>98487063Chaos eldar (non-slaanesh) sucks af
>>98488862eldar have wraithknights and warwalkersorks have stompas, 'nauts, and smaller walkerstau have stormsurge, riptide and ghostkeelthe reason why they didn't get separate codexes for their "knights" is because the point of a separate codex is that you can buy it as supplement for one of many imperial/chaos armies, meanwhile only orks use stompas, only eldar use wraithknights and only tau use the stormsurge
>>98487592I started yesterday and already bought $3000 of kits. Gonna build them any day now....
>>98487063As an Eldar fan Chaos Eldar could be fun. They should be absolutely batshit crazy and powerful. They should make Druhkari sweat and squirm. They should be psychic GODS (since they don't have to worry about their soul getting eaten, it's already pledged), like prefall Eldar. You could argue that demons of Slannesh are essentially what remains of the Eldar who helped create it but it would be cool to explore what would essentially be pre fall Eldar living on some crone world, showcasing their mastery over the material and immaterial, their hubris, arrogance, the most terrible example of the Eldar psyche manifest. Both alluring and repulsive to all other Eldar.
>>98488873I'm still mad
>>98488862if only there was a game for fielding giant robots and monsters and they didn't have to be crammed into a skirmish scale battle
>>98488875based. what army you pick?
>>98488865green and purple
>>98488866>pick out valuable targets visible on the titanIts all armour plates and guns bigger than the barracks the troopers slept in, no targets for a light weapon like a sniper to hit, just a wall of metal and barrels.>give information about the titan on the radioAssuming the backwards IG issued a radio guy to that area of the warzone, assuming you can get a message through, assuming anyone would even give a shit to listen to you>act as beacon for a surgical artillery strikeAssuming there arent hundreds of equal or greater ork targets in the area or that the crew werent wiped by kommandos, maybe you can be added to the surgically artillery strike queue
>>98488897oh based, ive almost got 2k points of gsc myself but less than half of it is painted. cant wait to have a 2k game with gsc, thats insane that is your first army
>>98488862??? We have the coolest knights
if the imperium is so strong why did they got beaten so badly by the tau during the damocles crusade?
>>98488900I don't think you're assuming as much as just being an ass.
>>98488911The imperium is like a pro wrestler grappling with like three dudes that are almost as big as he is, then a little dwarf guy comes in and shanks him in the ankle, so he tries to kick at the dwarf guy, but the other guys are keeping him busy and now his foot is getting stabbed too.
>>98488911repeat that without grammatical errors
>LotD before grey knights kill teampain
>>98488923are grey knights meant to get a kill team?
>fuck up model when cleaning mold lines>"primer will cover it">primer didn't cover itI PUSH MY FINGERS IN MY
>>98488918no lol>>98488917sounds pretty weak to me, especially when you consider that the other 4 guys are also attacking each other.
>>98488925in my dreams
>>98488930the primer makes it fuckin worse, and then wait until you use an acrylic / oil wash, or drybrush it holy fuck its so over after that
>>98488877So you're saying they should be to Eldar what Eldar are to humans?
>>98488917I really like how the SM antagonist in the new book Elemental Council views the Tau as essentially what mankind used to be, vital, strong, and idealistic, but not actually a real threat to the Imperium, yet. Unlike his battle brothers who just laughed at his assesment. By acknowledging that he also implies the Tau are actually a very serious threat, because of how much they can expand and grow under the radar, until it's too late to do anything about the problem.
>>98488909>effectsI didn't like tactical rocks but now if effects become the norm I'm done.
Ork newfag again, priming them went very well, completely covered with black and details are still visible, it didn't pool and obscure them. Never painted minis before, so would it be a better idea to start with boss Nobs since they're bigger or an Ork boy? Planning to go with Ninjon's tip for making some look rusty, going with a watered down red/brown/black mix coat over entire mini, then doing think red + green ork flesh 1st coat into normal ork green + red wash to make skin look lively.And when it comes to watering down paints, would you say it's better to just dip brush and mix or get a drop bottle for control?
>>98488909I have literally no idea what this is, so I'm guessing Fyreslayers/Khazalid Holds. Because I don't see anything 40k about it or the skull.
>>98488954>I'm done.YOU'LL DO NOTHING
>>98488958While Nobz are easier since they are bigger, start with a Boy. Because it's better for a Nob & other bigger characters to be painted well, they stick out more. Just do thin coats so you can fix if you mess up easier. And with Orks it's fine to have some sloppy paint on armor/clothes since they are dirty and use cobbled together junk.Fine to do it with brush.
>>98488947Hmmm, when you put it that way, yes. Other, "normal" Eldar should feel extreme unease and fear around Chaos Eldar, but also curiosity, and jealousy. Chaos Eldar have a degree of false "freedom", the ability to be fully "themselves", fully Eldar, able to use all their powers, indulge their desires, something many Eldar of both sides know they cannot do if they want to keep their souls. Even Druhkari have this deep seated hatred of what they are forced to do to survive. To be "free" of that? It would certainly be tempting for some.
>>98488958>so would it be a better idea to start with boss Nobs since they're bigger or an Ork boy?No, you should start with an ork boy because they are mooks and shouldn't stand out. Unit champions like Nobz are important game pieces that stand out and you'll also want to survive through out a game because they have special equipment. Because of those reasons you should want to spend a little extra time and effort on them.
FAT MAN NEWSKill Team: Nobs will be a big box with terrain on an ork space hulk, and they will be fighting Kill Team legion of the damned
>>98488917The Tau are more advanced than the imperium and their sphere of expansion will imminently take control of macragge in 12th edition, after which thousands of worlds will join tau
>>98488988>on an ork space hulkI don't think this part was said
Tau are gay
>>98488992No, that's not happening.
>>98488992High on copium
How can I show that the legs of a Doomstalker have been constantly used via weathering? I wanted to do an effect like the legs have gone through so much, but are still functional, but I don't know what to do exactly.
we MIGHT be due for a new bread
>>98488992>will imminently take control of macraggelmao
>>98488995It was strongly implied
>>98489006making one is such a chore I laugh that even the spastic who was spamming threads doesn't want to bother with it anymore
>>98488916How am I being an ass if im just saying that soliders lives are not vauled by the imperium and the lives of 7 random guys dont matter to anyone, even if they are at the the very front and have eyes on enemy super weapons
>>98489004necrodermis is almost indestructible isnt it? i guess rust wouldnt work. maybe a really grimy look, like make it look dirty as shit (a textured paint like typhus corrosion) but maybe mix it with something dark so it looks like its walked through swamps, deserts, all terrain variants
>>98489008no, it wasn't the only terrain mentioned was an imperial bunker and a destroyed dreadnought in the ground, how do you go from that to an orkish space hulk?
>>98489015No part of the previous post is giving value to those lives.
Why aren't Chaos Orks a thing
>>98488988>kill team nobz>today's reveal? NobzI still believe in legion of the damned, even if they'll be primaris shit
>>98489030because they arent gay, anon. chaos are maximum GAY, like dark angels tier GAY
>>98488958Test out the feel on a grunt. Never start out with chatacters/centerpieces. Boyz are a horde unit, people won't pay attention to the individual Boyz. Nobs are bigger and will draw attention + they die last.
>>98489030they don't have someone to champion them in design studio
>>98489030because orks are cooler on their own while chaos is lame
Chaos should be way better, instead it's just dude marines but they're a different colour, and maybe spikier
>>98488988fuck me dead im getting REAL sick of gw putting all of these models in a kill team box where i cant find someone to split it with
>>98489033>>kill team nobz>>today's reveal? NobzThe idea is that they got revealed as a normal unit, but will be released in a kill team box first.
>>98489054I doubt, but why not
>>98489053>legion of the damnedyou don't know any marine players? you don't even need to personally know one you can just post on your store's facebook and ask if someone wants to split
>>98489030They're literally just too based to be chaos
>>98488958Brush is fine, just be careful with dipping for the pain that you aren't loading it up to the ferrule, just grab a bit of paint at a time, deposit it on your palette, and go back for more.
>>98489051People say stuff like this and what they really want is more tzaangors or chaos eldar.
lotd kt 2021>your post is spamGay website
>>98488975>>98488981>>98489046>>98489077Thank you for the advice!
>>98489030STORMBOYZ
>>98489030In old lore it could happen sometimes. Very very very rare though. 99% of the time the chaos ork gets krumped because the rest of the lads feel he is un-orky.
>>98489081(you)
Putting together a few units of scions, should I make them 5 or 10 man squads?
>>9848912110 mans with a cmd squad
>>98489030Because Chaos Orks would be cooler than regular orks so everyone would play them instead.
>>98489121I hesitated getting these dudes but I'm waiting for the update
>>98489129you'll never get traitor guard
>>98489146Reminder of things /40kg/ also declared we would never get>plastic SoB>plastic Abaddon>Marine refresh (Primaris)>Primarchs>Emperor's Children>Squatsetc etc etc
>>98489149
fuck sake not this fucking traitor guard shit again make it stop fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>98489156>Eldar version of Terminator Armourlmao
>>98489170new aspect with heavy armor soon inshallah
>>98489149>/40kg/ also declaredno, that didn't happen
>>98489156>Adeptus Sororitas (female Marines)It's funny that people been saying this for years, but people still don't believe it.
>>98489175Be silent, newfag.
>>98489179saying what?
We will get traitor guard and dark mech eventually. It's a certainty. I mean what else is there to add to the game? You could maybe port over Skaven and Lizardmen, but after that? You're left either drudging up obscure shit or trying to make something brand new (lmfao). And GW isn't going to randomly stop shitting out new armies to sell more fomo boxes.
LE LE ECKS DEE XD I WANT TRAITOR GUARD XD XD :DDD LE XD
>>98489191The stupid fucks are probably xenosfags who think we'll get Hrud before traitor guard or dark admech.
>>98489184Stop making strawmen to justify your shit posts.
>>98489193
>>98489190>"we want female Space Marines!">"you got SoB">"it's not the same!"
>>98489191>We will get traitor guard and dark mech eventually. It's a certainty.Only as small releases added to the chaos space marine codex, not as independent factions.
>>98489200Stupid fucks like you have a shitty track record. That's just the way it is. We would be better off asking a dog on the side of the road what's coming next for 40k than you, cretin.
>>98489191>We will get traitor guard and dark mech eventually. It's a certainty.Definitely but there shouldn't be since chaos isn't really a faction that is supposed to be strictly subdivided. If anything there should be kits to represent these non marine factions put together with the marines into a chaos megafaction with different optional army compositions if you want to focus on one end of the megafaction more than the others. That aside I personally really don't want that to happen since there are a limited amount of sprue slots in GWs factories because of bongistans environmental laws preventing them from making more factories which means that for every kit made for imperium but spiky someone else is losing a kit.>You could maybe port over Skaven and LizardmenI'd take one of 40ks original xenos races getting models a million times over a shitty fantasy copy paste job.
>>98489191>I mean what else is there to add to the game? space slannizoatsmen of irongrot rebelssalamandersthe same stuff they've been redoing for the past 40 years
>>98489144Why would they get updated? They look great
>>98489222>40ks original xenos raceshrudfag...
>>98489229destined for the farm now that the Kasrkins they replaced are back
>>98489211You have no record of anyone ever saying anything, in the best of cases you made up a strawman and in the worst of cases the echo of a retard that should have never weighed on you lives rent free in your head as an example of what people like you think.
>>98489222>every kit made for imperium but spiky someone else is losing a kit.And who would be losing a kit? GSC? Eldar? the fucking Tau? Fuck you and fuck them!
just a few months ago we had retards saying exodites would never happen
>>98489246Yep, that's the problem with generals. You'll have behaviour or posts that happen all the time and then retards like this one >>98489239show up and start with>nope that never happened, never happened! we always wanted exodites and we always thought they were coming
>>98489222James is literally building a new factory right now you fucking retard
>>98489191hrud
>>98489236I didn't really have a specific one in mind when I said that desu I just think that copy pasting shit from fantasy is an extremely boring and lazy solution.>>98489244Imperium loses kits just as much as those desu>>98489251Oh nice, I was convinced that the hellish nanny state would keep strangling them forever
>>98489259>Oh nice, I was convinced that the hellish nanny state would keep strangling them foreverjfc you people are idiots.
HRUDELDAR KNIGHTS CODEXSPACE MARINE SUPPLEMENTS FOR FIRST FOUNDING CHAPTERSCHAOS SPACE MARINE SUPPLEMENTS FOR RED CORSAIRS AND IRON WARRIORS AND NIGHT LORDSCODEX TITANICUSCODEX TRAITOR TITANICUSDARK MECHANICUSVASH TORR GREATER DAEMONS (he becomes a god)CHAOS ELDARYU'VATHRULES TO PUT LASERS ON YOUR LIZARDMEN AND RUN THEM AS SLANNIGUE'VESAVESPID EXPANSIONNICASSARTARELLIAN KILL TEAM
>>98489246The retard saying exodites would never happen was the same retard now crying about how common his retardation is, and how everyone should bow at his wishlist for spiky guardsmen.
>>98489271well I'm sorry that I don't keep a 24/7 watch on what an overseas corporation is doing and miss a piece of news that came and went most likely while my focus was shifted to non warhammer stuff
And exodites expansion with dinosaurs (big ones and flying ones)And an exodites detachment so I can run Knights as battleline
>>98489170Why not? Eldars have everything, they even used to have power fists.>>98489179Some people don't want to listen, they want to fall in with the crowd. I'm building a SoB army with a SoB dreadnought, land raider and terminators
>>98489282No it isn't dumbass
NEW BREAD WHEN
>>98489250we did always want exodites
>>98489285>And exodites expansion with dinosaurs (big ones and flying ones)Dude if we get Knight sized Brontos and Raptors/Rexes I think I'd cream myself.
>>98489290This whiny guardfag is definitely that kind of dumbass, look at him >>98489250 he's trying to say noone ever wanted exodites before.
>>98489285>>98489299that would be pretty fuckin' rad
>>98489279>HRUDnot happening>ELDAR KNIGHTS CODEXnot happening>SPACE MARINE SUPPLEMENTS FOR FIRST FOUNDING CHAPTERSnot happening for all of them, maybe for a few chapters when they get primarchs, but they will never make IF or Ultramarines not core SM>CHAOS SPACE MARINE SUPPLEMENTS FOR RED CORSAIRS AND IRON WARRIORS AND NIGHT LORDSmaybe but probably not>CODEX TITANICUS>CODEX TRAITOR TITANICUSmaybe with plastic titans>DARK MECHANICUS>VASH TORR GREATER DAEMONS (he becomes a god)maybe>CHAOS ELDARnot happening>YU'VATHnot happening>RULES TO PUT LASERS ON YOUR LIZARDMEN AND RUN THEM AS SLANNImaybe>GUE'VESAkill team at most>VESPID EXPANSIONmaybe>NICASSARnot happening>TARELLIAN KILL TEAMmaybe
>>98489279>SPACE MARINE SUPPLEMENTS FOR FIRST FOUNDING CHAPTERSWhen will marinepigs accept that most of their sonic recolors aren't nearly mechanically different to justify this
white scars codex >>> redditmanders codex
Uh oh guardfag melty
rent free
guard and space wolves are both really fucking gay and make me wish I was a professional fister.
>>98489279>VASH TORR GREATER DAEMONS (he becomes a god)issue is that he's fed by innovation and barely anyone does that>dark mech innovate, if you can call shoving demons into machines innovation>leagues sometimes innovate but it takes a while>tau innovate but weak souls>everyone else reached peak and is stagnatingunless they change his fuel source to be broader he will never ramp up and for a demon from war in heaven its kinda pathetic since it would seem that he gets the same amount of power regardless of the scale of the innovation if biotransference didn't jumpstart him ahead of the main 4
Hellblaster status?
>>98489279>VASH TORR GREATER DAEMONS (he becomes a god)Somehow the least likely of all of these
>trying to equate guard to wolvesdecal falseflag
>>98489314>salamandersUse fire, are black>imperial templarsAre like black templars but yellow>iron handsrobots but marines>white scarsAsian>raven guardlike iron hands but ravens instead of robotsSeems pretty different to me
>>98489279GayAll marines should be in the one codex: astartes.All chaos should be in the one codex: chaos.All eldar should be in the one codex: eldar.Hruds don't work as an army or squad, just add one of them as a cameo in a side game or a squad for some other character like the zoat and tarellian.Slanni shouldn't be like the lizardmen but sci fi, they're slann without the skinks and saurians.
>>98489315White Scars are the only marines I'd consider painting and playing. I'll paint a hundred models white because they're that fucking cool.
>>98489328you play eldar, fisting is second nature to you.
If GW does a titanicus codex I hope they stop being faggots and also have a whole Secutarii infantry/tiny mech lineup so they don't have the Knights problem where you have big robots that look out of place under 2000 points.
>>98489339none of these are enough to justify more than an upgrade sprue at best. The existing chapters like Space Wolves and Dark Angels actually have a legit them that you can be creative with so not surprising they have actual unique units.
>>98489340>Slanni shouldn't be like the lizardmen but sci fi, they're slann without the skinks and saurians.OH NO NO AHAHAHANEWFAG DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE 3RD ED NECRON CODEX
>>98489282stupid fuck, I'm putting you on blast because of your inane 'traitor guard isn't happening' post with examples of other morons here being completely wrong and first you defended /40kg/ and now saying I'm behind those posts lmao, get fucked
>>98489350>none of these are enough to justify more than an upgrade sprue at best. The existing chapters like Space Wolves and Dark Angels actually have a legit them that you can be creative with so not surprising they have actual unique units>have a legit them thatWhatAlso stealing bikes and homosexuality from the white scars and blood angels isn't a theme.
>>98489346kek
Traitor guard literally already has all the infantry they need>enforcer+ogrynJust let me run enforcers separate from ogryns and put the ogryns in a group together>traitor guardRight there>fellgorsFor the mutants>detachment rules: can use tanks like baneblade (but it's a chaos baneblade with spikes)Easy
>>98489367funny that people will complain about EC/WE having no units and then turn around and be like>yeah we should release traitor guard with functionally 4 units
>>98489344why would GW make a titan codex when the knights already exist?
>>98489367I'd love traitor guard but I don't trust GW to do them justice, the current kit is lame.Call me back when they do vraks militia in plastic.
>>98489367>another baneblade price hike because now it has to include upgrade sprue with spikesgenius
>>98489374nta but traitor guard can work with 4 units, especially since their tanks can be taken from the IG range.WE & EC needed more.This is a false equivalence.
>>98489379spikes sold separately ($49.99)
>Ultramarines and fistsvanilla marines>BAngelsJump pack melee is battleline>DAngelsPlasma is battleline>WolvesPlayer is allowed to bring his bad dragon buttplug to tourneys>Templarsvanilla but also crusader squad>SalamandersFlamers get battleline>White ScarsBikes get battleline>Raven GuardInfiltrators get battleline>Iron handsDreadnoughts or a heavy weapon squad type gets battleline or somethingThat's all the first founding rules you need.
>>98489379>implying those spikes wouldn't be sold separatelyrumao
>>98489374Traitor guard is literally guard+traitorsYour post is like saying Brood Brothers is incomplete because they need more than the kill team and Patriarch, they need like a Genestealer tank and a Genestealer Jet.They are literally guardsmen who are traitors, I honestly have no idea what you would possibly want if not the ability to -actually field guard vehicles like the baneblade, but a chaos baneblade-. Like that's literally what the Moebian VI is, or the Vraksians, or the Blood Pact, they don't deviate except worshiping chaos and shit.
traitor guard would already exist if gw wasn't allergic to making rules for models they don't sell
>>98489353I know about that, but I also know it's a shit suggestion for a cheap compromise in a context without a dedicated model range for sci fi slann, so why in the flying fuck would you suggest just converting fantasy lizardmen when you are daydreaming about potential new releases and you should know that slanni weren't actually like that and would be better if they weren't just that?
>>98489377Because Titans are literally a separate army in both the Index Titanicus and on their website? And putting a titan with the knights is stupid you don't need that many big robots.
>>98489389give iron hands techmarine the ability to heal their attached unit as if it was a vehicle and we got a deal
>>98489393>they need like a Genestealer tankNigga...
>>98489397>get this "hobbying" shit out of my hobby, GW should sell me a 250 dollar starter battleforce of fat frogs with jetpacks and lasers, I don't want to "do it myself"
>>98489411>fat frogs with jetpacks and lasersI mean that DOES sound pwetty sweet...
>>98489403How about we meet in the middle and just scrape the name off the apothecary for something more techy sounding or iron hands in another language
>>98489354>post with examples of other morons hereYou didn't do that, you posted your own strawmen and then tried to argue that noone ever wanted exodites, putting you solidly as an example of the short sightedness you're projecting on others.I also only said that exclusively to confirm that the guy shitting on orks was indeed just the usual whiny guardfag.
>>98489420mental illness
>>98489407That's just a transport with a gun or two though
>>98489314Have some respect for the space marines anon.Their burden is already heavy enough.>>98489193You joke but wargames Atlantic’s damned might be making James change plans and making an official traitor guard army with models in a way to make their sales go down. It might work.
>>98488232what a baseboy image lol. utterly soulless trash, multiple basedfaces, votrannies.. smdh
>>98489396You can use the imperial guard codex or the chaos marines codex or the genestealer cult codex for rules that would aptly represent any reasonable selection of units you would want to convert or use or source from third parties.
are cultists centric lists good in 11th editon
>ork nobz have a mk7 and mk6 helmet on a poleInteresting
>>98489423and yet, strangely enough, look at how fast you cropped up, curious, isn't it?
>>98489365You're posting garbage memes and then laughing at your own posts alone, how much lower can you go at this point?
>>98489431So which of those will allow me to take daemons and daemon engines with baneblades?
>>98489440they have primaris ears, so they are primaris versions of mk7 and mk6 helmets
How useful are Skull Cannons in Daemon armies? I have one kit and I wonder if I should grab another one since they are constantly out of stock.
>>98489420I'm not stating no one wanted exodites. The green text is in the context of your posts, which is to defend /40kg/ to the hilt by stating no one here has ever gotten these sorts of predictions completely wrong (it has hundreds of times).
>>98489441hellblaster status?
>>98489393>they need like a Genestealer tankI have an idea.
>>98489457
>>98489400okay, but titans would be unusable at anything below 2k, and would be maybe 14 datasheets total if we're being generous. titans are better as an allied unit for other armies to take in an apocolypse sized game, smaller titans are completely unnecessary since thats the role that knights fill. If you want secutarii that pushes titans into being an appocalypse supplement for the admech codex.
>>98489451genestealer cults with brood brother auxilia detachment
>>98489459Any day now. Surely.
>>98489426semantics. the fact is the GSC army isn't just brood brothers and a partriach and a kill team. its an army made up of over a dozen units and there's no reason traitor guard shouldn't or wouldn't be the same (and no I'm not just talking about leman russ variants).
>>98489467
I've XD'ed too hard tonight im sorry lads
>>98489466It's very easy and it's happening so there's no point in crying. Plastic warhound. Titanicus. Securtarii backing them up as infantry to fill out the List. 400 dollars for a Warhound in plastic.
>>98489458>I'm not stating no one wanted exodites.Yes, you did, you tried to conflate the idea that noone thought exodites would be coming with the idea that noone wanted exodites, only showing that you were the one who never wanted exodites and were projecting that on others, just like you're doing with other thoughts and behaviours.
>>98489476>you tried to conflate the idea that noone thought exodites would be coming with the idea that noone wanted exoditesgo ahead and point out the post in which that happened, schizo-kun
>>98489367Basically all they need at this point is access to IG vehicles and an upgrade sprue. They have enough infantry to form a solid foundation already and plenty of daemon engines from CSM can be ported over no problem. It's basically free money just sitting on the table that GW refuses to pick up.
>>98489459meant for >>98489423
>>98489488my brain is telling me GW doesn't give them detachment: traitor guard vehicles because they think it'll lessen sales of daemon engines or some shit.
>>98489453Interesting
New>>98489502>>98489502>>98489502
>>98489495Nobody who wants traitor guard are expecting to have access to the CSM daemon engines in their armylist.
>>98489411I already have my own fat frogs with jetpacks and lasers, I don't need GW to do them, I'm just saying that if GW has to do something with slanni it shouldn't be a cheap port-over of the fantasy ones. It doesn't work, it looks ugly, it barely does with daemons and they have all the help in the world both in terms of bits and fluff to help it.If something should be left in the realm of kitbashes and conversions, it's lower stuff like additional guard regiments or traitor guard or looted ork vehicles.
>>98489473If you enjoy titans and want to play them then more power to you, I just dont think they need to be their own codex. We already have issues with other armies (WE, EC, deldar, votann) having very few options without having to throw on yet another super niche codex with next to zero datasheets.
>>98489523Look it's already happening>we have issues*youYou have issuesNot me
>>98489485this greentext is your idea of an absurd position for someone to hold, in your absurd position you think people always wanted exodites, meaning you never thought anyone sane ever actually wanted exodites, you'll try to deny this, but it slipped out of you and you cannot take it back now, you showed your hand>>98489250>>nope that never happened, never happened! we always wanted exodites and we always thought they were coming
>>98489403This is the problem. Every single color of marine always wants this "but MY guys have this unique thing that should be represented!" and it is what's lead to our current situation. The Bumicus Fisticus chapter does not need a special unit to represent their Anal Annihilators special unit, regular marines work just fine. Inner Circle Companions, Headtakers, Sanguinary Guard, etc should ALL just have been bladeguard veterans.
>>98489541in a year or two when titans officially release and you point out there was a moron on here arguing thread after thread they were never happening you'll be called a liar strawman and responsible for those posts.
>>98489426That's what my opponent thought when he charged it with Assault Intercessors and got mowed down by the grinder.
>>98489471You have the purestrain profile for demons, the various hybrids for mutants, you have access to pretty much all of the relevant normal guard units and you can use the gsc goliath profile for a demon engine since its rockgrinder melee attack is good to represent a demon engine's body
>>98489549but is it bad if it was a modification to pre-existing datasheet or given out as an enhancement in a detachment? Like TS get to have quasi sorcerer-warpsmith due to said enhancement
>>98489541I'm not arguing its not happening, I'm arguing it doesn't need to happen when their are existing codices that are in need of more support than knights but big.
>>98489548the greentext is your position. you defend the 'exodite aren't happening' posts first by saying they aren't happening. then when you're proven wrong you shift to 'I was an exodite fan all along!'
>>98489553I'll tell you what's going to happen: in a year or two when the plastic titan happens, but not its independent codex or its independent infantry troops, you'll shift your goalpost and claim that your strawmen opponents were all exclusively about the plastic titan itself, not the codex or the titan infantry.
>>98489584>the greentext is your positionno, it isn't, I was indeed an exodite fan all alongthe opposite of that greentext is your position though, you always claimed no-one ever wanted exodites, you're the one who was proven to be wrongyou'll try to deny this, but it slipped out of you and you cannot take it back now, you showed your hand
>>98489609Nope. I made no claims about exodites outside the greentext, which is your position. In that context it only applies to you. I'm here taking the piss out of morons like you who think we're not getting something just because you have a chip on your shoulder about valrak or guard or whatever ruins your day. we are getting traitor guard and nothing you post will ever change that.
>>98489630>I made no claims about exodites outside the greentextexactly, the greentext is a mirror of your position this greentext is your idea of an absurd position for someone to hold, in your absurd position you think people always wanted exodites, meaning you never thought anyone sane ever actually wanted exodites, you'll try to deny this, but it slipped out of you and you cannot take it back now, you showed your hand
>>98486838You cannot "replace" the heavy weapon platform in a Guardian Defender unit with the standalone unit named "Support Weapon Platform" (Vibrocannon, Shadow Weaver, and D-Cannon). You CAN ATTACH the Support Weapon Platform to a Guardian Defender unit, but in such case, the Support Weapon Platform goes down to toughness 3. Read the Support Weapon special rule on the unit. You still get the Brightlance, Starcannon, scatter laser, or Missile Launcher from the Guardian Defenders unit's heavy weapons platform.
>>98488613>a transportThe only one in the entire roster is a Rhino. A Marine vehicle. Anon doesn't want those by his own self-imposed limitation.And what is that transport even supposed to do? It makes his squishy infantry able to move faster and tanks hits for them, something I pointed out that he was lacking.>and those jumppack marinesAnon is specifically not looking for ANY marine units.He is intentionally gimping his own roster by not engaging with a massive portion of it, and is complaining about a lack of choices to make up for his own self-imposed limitation.>>98489156>Sororitas (female Marines)>they're objectively just worse in every wayWhat did James mean by this?
>>98489207They are not the same.1 is just a warrior nun with a magical sugar daddy and other would be a warrior nun with genetic enhancementsThis is like saying that SoS and SoB are the same because their armor is similiar and both are women.
>>98489694Still wrong. Still your position.
