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first for TRAITOR GUARD
>TQ Obesity is high and there is brown stains on 50+% of the chairs that comes from one massive retard.
REPOSTAN>Ultramarines and fistsvanilla marines>BAngelsJump pack melee is battleline>DAngelsPlasma is battleline>WolvesPlayer is allowed to bring his bad dragon buttplug to tourneys>Templarsvanilla but also crusader squad>SalamandersFlamers get battleline>White ScarsBikes get battleline>Raven GuardInfiltrators get battleline>Iron handsDreadnoughts or a heavy weapon squad type gets battleline or somethingThat's all the first founding rules you need.
>>98489502Traitor guardbros, we'll be eating good soon and no amount of idiots on /40kg/ who have gotten thousands of future release predictions completely wrong over the years (including exodites recently) will ever change that.
HALTModelposters only below this line. You aren't a filthy secondary, are you?
>>98489508>hello? James?>anon is asking for official traitor guard for warhammer 40k>no not the dark eldar this time it is traitor guard>delay it and DElay the refresh if the post is made again>I know about Wargames Atlantic’s damned plastics they are controlled opposition
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>>98489535>t. no model secondary
>>98489546the secondary cries out in pain as he strikes you
Hows your collage submission coming along, /40kg/?
>>98489525Not gonna lie it was said Krieg would never go plastic.Then they were just gonna be a kill team.Then their designs were bad. Then they supposedly didn’t sell well.So the pattern is probably repeating here.But I think catachans need a refresh first. The orks vs exodites should have been Catachan vs exodites.Maybe catachan and traitor guard can be released together I hope?
>>98489535unpainted but still working on a colorscheme. plus no buli
ok but we will NEVER get updated steel legion
>>98489561Yep, Krieg was another big one /40kg/ got wrong.
>>98489558whats the theme for this month, i forgor
>>98489568did you magnetize?
>kill team new box 250 dollars for armageddon battlefiend terrain+ork boy npos+Kill Team Nobs (though this could have actually just been the exodite kill team enemy?) vs. 12 legion of the damned marinesI gotta save my extra bonuses
GREY KNIGHTS FUCKING WHEN?
>>98489586they won't release a new kill team edition box without marines being 1 faction
>>98489535
>>98489586>just bought the starter set because I need terrain for collage entries>(supposedly) an ork kill team will come out with terrain included soonJUST
>>98489582no, because I was too scared to attempt it.
How useful are Skull Cannons in Daemon armies? I have one kit and I wonder if I should grab another one since they are constantly out of stock.
>>98489603Soon™
>>98489571See those who said plastic Krieg would never happen. I do think the new design oddly enough is just for trademark design reasons. Or the lack of steel legion with yarrick and then the paintjob was a deliberately made controversy to see if the steel legion has some enduring popularity. GW can’t be that stupid.Right?
>>9848953510% of my army is painted. im gonna be real.I love assembling, kitbashing, designing cool bases.I dont really like painting models. I'm not terrible at it, not good. I just prefer assembling, I love all the little finishing and sculpting details. I love greenstuffing my own details, sanding things down, cutting parts too fit. Something is wrong with me.
>>98489606Legion are marines
>>98489619some lists are running two of them for stacking battleshock effects
>The cruelest and bloodiest regime imaginable>Look inside>Its the most racially tolerant, sexually tolerant, and gender equal society to ever exist in human history What did Games Workshop mean by this?
Who is the Vlad von Carstein of Warhammer 40,000?
>>98489659>And don't you forget it!
>>98489659Low IQ post.
>>98489614War Walker guns and wraithlord big guns are easy to magnetize. Most of the Eldar range heavy weapons are shared so this saves effort all over the place. Ie you can steal a painted bright Lance from a war walker or wraithlord for your guardians depending on how you cut it. Wave serpent/Falcon uses a horizontal setup.Windriders use vertical setups but nobody can tell so either is fine.Don't bother with the flame throwers/shuriken catas they're aids and the magnets that fit are too weak to hold the weapon well
>>98489663
>>98489517I now need a chaos version of this and a guard version of this.Aren’t chaos space marine legions somewhat a chaos reflection of the loyalists in roles or combat doctrines?>fists=iron autists>black legion=ultramarines>world eaters=blood angelsI’m not sure about the rest. This perception came out of my ass and into the toilet water.
>>98489517>>Wolves>Player is allowed to bring his bad dragon buttplug to tourneyswolves and salamanders have a lot in common
>>98489670This one's pronouns are Xe/Xem
>>98489680raven guard = night lords
What do you guys think about the leagues if votann?
>>98489705
>>98489680>Aren’t chaos space marine legions somewhat a chaos reflection of the loyalists in roles or combat doctrines?no, you can try to line them up, but it just doesn't work well regardless of how you shift them around
>>98489680>black legion and Alpha legionvanilla>World eatersberserkers are battleline>Death guardplague marines are battleline>thousand sonsrubric marines are battleline>emperors childrennoise marines are battleline>night lordsRaptors are battleline>Word bearersPossessed are battleline>Iron warriorsHavocs are battleline
>>98489705"Thank god they came out so people stop asking about squats'
>>98489705Already more popular than Admech and Dark Eldar. Only way is up!
>>98489705I forget they exist whenever people aren't talking about them 'cause they're boring
>>98489705Despite them being good and played a bunch I legit forget they exist fairly regularly.
>>98489705collect them so i like at least something about them
>>98489734>I forget they exist whenever people aren't talking about them
>>98489705They’re kinda bland desu, but I do like that they make the Imperium even more demonstrably wrong about their regarded policy towards AI
>>98489718Thanks anon.>>98489700>>98489719Thanks again!
>>98489752It's not my fault they're so generic and forgettable
I hope we get a new Pedro Kantor model soonSpanish marines are kino
>>98489517A much simpler and better system is letting the player take whatever and unlocking units depending on his HQ choices, with the subfaction being purely cosmetic.>yes, you can field an imperial fists army that's got a small detachment of raven guards and one of black templars alongside them>yes, you can use the rules for an ultramarines honor guard in your blood angels army to represent a converted blood angels honor guard >yes, you can make an iron hands army that focuses on jump assault troops, or a dark angels army all about flamethrowers
>>98489517>>984897963rd edition rulebook had perfected the solution for the marine question.
>>98488390EC 40k paint scheme looks so awful
>>98489705I'm a big fan. Second model wave was kino, I definitely want more but I'm willing to wait for other armies to get new stuff first.
>>98489808That's more or less what I was referencing with my list
>>98489818On one hand contrast paintjob, on the other it's better than bare plastic.
>>98489586sauce?
>>98489846ntab let's see your non-contrast paintjobs, anon
>>98489846>NOOOO YOU DIDN'T DO 30 LAYERS OF HIGHLIGHTING TO ACHIEVE THE SAME RESULT>YOU DIDN'T PAINT THE MODEL>YOU DIDN'T SLAP THE CHOP>YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAMEpiss off
>>98489850The Fat Man said so
>>98489855nice meltdown
The real problem with Fomo boxes is that GW's retarded production schedule may mean you end up being unable to purchase the models in the box due to them later not producing enouhg of said model, leading to massive scalping or even just total sell outs.
>>98489796that won't appeal to modern herohammer marinefags. idea rejected and paperwork filed to move (you) to the AoS team.
>>98489586I don't think GW would put in the box both terrain, non playable boys, AND more than 10 marines
>>98489887>that won't appeal to modern herohammer marinefags.when I said you can take whatever, I truly meant it>yes, you can play an army of marines that's exclusively just all of their special characters and personal guards deploying together like in an avengers movie
>>98489888Kill Team Tomb world contents-Kill Team Necrons-10 necron warrior npos-10 Deathwatch marines-the Killzone Tomb World terrain
>>98489603I fully believe the old rumors that completed loyalist primarch models have already been created and are sitting unused in a file folder on their servers somewhere. I think GW has really polished their production pipeline and at this point the biggest delay is in marketing windows.feb/march is a minor release window.(kroot army box in 2024, deathwing assault box, red corsairs box in 2026, eldar corsairs in 2026)june/july is a big release date "splash" window for them. Thats when we saw the space wolves release last year and it's usually when each new edition launches. I think the next big release window is september/october. That is when we saw votanns army box drop in 2022 and the black templars in 2021. The holidays IIRC don't have a lot of "new" miniatures and range refreshes and it seems more about army boxes and clearing out older stock. It will be interesting to see what faction gets the fall refresh. it could be grey knights but my bet is going to be some more Votann models.
>>98489941>2022 was 4 years agoThat's impossible, it was december 2023 not too long ago
>>98489935the kill team offer got shrinkflated since then
>>98489705I wish I could like them as most of the lore is actually pretty cool and only reconciling it with the 30-ish years of lore without their existence feels off, like if these guys had been around as they are presented since 3rd or 4th edition I think they'd feel even more at home than, say, Tau.But the model range leaves a fair bit to be desired. Just a little too new sci-fi for me, feels like a design treatment for a video game from 2010 onward. It doesn't do enough to communicate the level of decay their society has inwardly suffered, like obviously they're far better off than the Imperium but when I look at a LoV army on the table it doesn't communicate their insularity, their commitment to the backwardness of their malfunctioning Votann.
>>98489851I totally get being new or not wanting to spend eternity painting models. I have a friend who does commission painting as a side hustle. He's got one painted army and the rest is gray tide.Anyway, 40k models as posted. Anon delivers.Feel free to roast the poor sculpting job on the bases. It was my first attempt at doing that.
To the forgefiend anon from last thread; a rhino is a personnel carrier, not a fucking marine unit. My specific intention was to not have astartes but an army of mortals thats not the le hecking imperial guard. Fomo mfAdd back heavy squad and ogryn squad for csm, ty
>>98489981after hanging from the ceiling to view this image I gotta say those are some very nice models
>>98489674Imotekh is the Settra of 40k.
>>98489878...but enough about yourself.
>>98489855>SAME RESULToh man
>>98489974Well we know there will be terrain so it's at least 250 bucks so>6 legion of the damned marine operatives>6 nobs>10 boyz>terrain250 dollars.
>>98490044what did he forgemean by this
>>98489884>tfw warpflame thrallband got scalped to hell and back>tfw sekhetar robots are perma out of stock everywhere
>>98490060>6why 6?
>>98490044>My specific intention was to not have astartes but an army of mortals thats not the le hecking imperial guardthen why aren't you taking any of the options that let you do just that?
>>98489535Quick question, what's going to happen if I try to prime a model outside when it's over 80 degrees out?
>>98490086it would be extremely painful
>>98489558Haven't touched it in a couple days sadly. I've got no idea what base greeblies I want to add onto the base.
>>98489544
>>98490088UUUU
>>98490046I fucking hate posting images from mobile. Sorry spideranon.
>>98490086I have a stack of sacrificial polystyrene spoons that I use for testing paints. If I feel like priming I take one out and give it a spritz before potentially fucking up any models. You can buy like 100 of them for $6On a side note what happened to the paint on that model? I know "think your paints" is a meme but I think this was overthinned. You ideally want the paint consistency to be opaque even when spread out but not so thin it leaves the brush lines. This is one of the perks of a dry palette that people don't mention, you can smear it around to test the consistency before application.
>>98489901I hate to admit this would probably propel GW stock prices to the moon if they allowed this.
>>98490121Did you know the reason looking at upside down images is so difficult is because your brain takes shortcuts to understand what its looking at? Its harder because you are actually LOOKING at it, not seeing the general outline constructed by your brain to save processing power. So looking at things upside down can be more difficult, but you will see things you didn't see before because your brain literally fuzzes things down for you to interpret it quickly not deeply.
>>98489659There would be no winning with your typeIt would either be "heh... BASED imperium?" or "what did they mean by this?"
>>98490125>think your paintsthanks autocorrect
>>98489603Wait for valrak'a upcoming video on grey knight rumors. Don't forget to like and subscribe
>>98490148what about having the imperium be written consistently without your politics shoved in it and ignore whether this angers or pleases people?
>>98490150Thank you I will!
>wtf why isn’t the imperium doing hecking TNTD (total nigger tranny death)!?!?!I’m sure GW is going to start acticely writing discrimination against their customer base any day now. We just have to pray to kek and trust the plan my pede!
>>98490150Valrak has to be a GW employee or at least knows someone who is with all the leaks he gets...
>getting into 40k>just ordered the first book in The Horus Heresy series>scroll down>there are fifty-four (54) fucking books in the seriesare they all good?
>>98490209none of them are good
>>98490209>buying BL slop>getting into 40kcome back when you paint some minis, faggot
>>98490188>acticely writing discrimination against their customer basedo you think all fluff before your politics got shoved into the books was actively discriminating anyone?
I'm going to my local today, what should I buy?
>>98490209They are all trash.
>>98490209Read Horus Rising, Legion, Mechanicum, Know no Fear, Unremembered Empire, Scars, Master of Mankind, and Saturnine. Those are probably the greatest hits of the series and most of them are highly standalone with loose strands of narrative tying them together. You'll only miss out on the boring slop books that are all about "oh how did X get to Y in time for the Siege?" which nobody cares about
>>98490209I dunno, ask /hhg/.
>>98490209Read Prospero Burns, one of the best of the whole series.
Hello friends I am a degenerateToday I received two boxes, the exodites and armageddonThank you for your time.
>>98490256What an awesome day you must be having, gratz anon.
>>98490256>I am a degenerate>I receiveddoes that mean you whore yourself out?
The emperor is technically a heretic
>>98490165>what about having the imperium be written consistentlyThis has never been the case in the 39 years of 40k's history. It won't start be consistent now.
>>98490188>blacks>Games Workshop's customer base
>>98490224A life
>>98490275It was, for what this specific topic is concerned, your politics are not a positive change, nor they are an irrelevant change
>>98490287>It wasWrong.
>>98490230>>98490248thank you for the non-meme answers, will add to my wish list
>>98490286Unfortunately gw sells to them, according to anon, they don't sell them.
>>98490274What the Imperium calls heretics are actually (generally) blasphemers instead.
>>98490165>>98490287Show me where 40k ever had different politics than it did now that isn't just in your head
>>98490291If it wasn't, why was a change needed? If nothing changed, why are you against a return to how stuff was written before?
>>98490270Well, is it incorrect to say I received the boxes from the delivery man?Idk genuine question>>98490259Thanks boss. Im on vacation right now so Ill try to actually paint some models again now that I dont have to worry about work.
>>98490296Why'd you blank out your address? You are among friends and peers.
>>98490296A Thousand Sons is also good.Do not even consider Titandeath.
>>98490300And the Horus Hersey was technically an apostasy but the Horus Apostasy isn't quiet as catchy
>>98490224Turquoise is a nice color, so is blue. Buy paint. Paint cloth or armor some flavor of turquoise, I prefer the dark or midtones. For God's sake don't buy those ugly scalies they call the Seraphon though.
>>98490188>the average GW customer according to this anon
>>98490305>why changeEntropy, things change, it's the nature of the world.
>>98490316>Seraphon>uglyur a faget
>>98490319Where's the pic of that fat trans space marine in a wheelchair some anon posted a while back?
>>98490311you never known what kind of sick fucks might be lurking on the interwebs
>>98490319that image makes me think of Thrope's Votann novel. Everyone is dark skinned and he felt the need more than once to point kin with magenta hair
>>98490302>inb4 this isn't politics >inb4 most people wanted this, once you ignore all the people who didn't want this>inb4 it doesn't actually mean the imperium is now written as inclusive and tolerant, forced representation is actually magically organic >inb4 it doesn't actually changed anything, ignore the kits it affected
>>98490331BEHOLDFLEE NOW IN TERROR
>>98490346And what kits has this affected?
>>98489517You've fucked this anon. 40k subfactions are better thought of as themes than as specific units. The current detachment system already works just fine for representing the chapters.
When the fuck are xv26s going back in stock?
>>98490331>>98490349SEE THE CAPE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS FLY IN THE WIND
>>98490346Why the actual fuck do people need to feel "represented" in fiction? What does this accomplish?
>>98490335I want to read it for the lore but after his Ynnari and Siege of Terra novels I think Thorpe might legitimately be so unfathomably awful as a novelist that giving GW money for his work is essentially asking him to ruin more factions at this point
>>98490322Then why was the change enforced, instead of it being a natural one?
>>98490346jeez louise these people are homos
>>98490349a weapon to surpass the metal gear
>>98490352This one, allegedly.
>>98490364>What does this accomplish?blackrock fundings
>>98490366It wasn't enforced.
>>98490322entropy means things don't change. what the fuck are you talking about?to change things you have to actively fight against entropy. are you retarded? are you a slave?
>>98490364it's unironically about taking things away from you
>>98489659They just found different, more interesting reasons to murder and oppress each other. A tale as old as time.
>>98490377Didn't a large corpo have some emails leaked that referred to them as nigger bucks?
>>98490349I can only imagine how many xenos presented themselves for execution at xir's feet in awe of how thoroughly out represented they were and how they all felt bland an flavorless compared to the rich and enlightening intersectionality of xir radiance.
>>98490352custodes, imperial guard, imperial agents, chaos cultists, leagues of votann
>>98490380>totally organic :^)uh huh
>>98489846Its not a full contrast paint job in fairness
>>98490364many people (especially marinefags who are their biggest spenders) are incapable of enjoying something if they can’t immediately relate to/self insert the characters, so by giving these people more representation, it allows them to like the army far more.
>>98490313>Anubis Apostasy Yeah doesn't quite work.
>>98490333Reminds me of pic.
>>98490394It was, you disagreeing with it is irrelevant.
>>98490413This is the anon who tells you Blackrock isn't real.
>>98490413>top-down social engineering is totally organicI can't wait until it's legal to hunt you IRL
>>98490418We can continue this conversation later after you calm down.
>>984904182 more weeks
>>98490410hot
Wish they could bring human sniper squads back to the guard I hate ratlings
>I don't care about representation>I don't want minorities in Xpick one
>>98490429Ratlings are based, you chud
GW keep price gating the hobby so marginalized groups can't enjoy it.
>>98490365His Ynnari novels are funny at least. My bro Thorpe is genuinely fanfic tier.The only thing wrong with his work is that he expects you to pay for it.
>>98490436if you're going to argue with the voices in your head, please do so in private
>>98490393>imperial guard, imperial agents, chaos cultists, leagues of votannHave all had female models for years, so aside from custodes what are you even whining about?
>>98490409Apophis Apostasy
lots of secondaries latelywhat happened?
>>98490447it do be like that mista stancil
>>98490429abhumans are one of the only things that makes guard visually interesting and you want to remove them for more boring ass, diversity box checking humans? KILL YOURSELF!
>>98490453Modelers are ridiculed incessantly by them so we have to pick our spots carefully.
>>98490453you brought them here from your discord, poofta
>>98489659The same they meant with "unchecked degeneracy leading to the fall of an empire" and "Horus Heresy was the result of mom taking the kids away from dad to spite him".
>>98490461is this "discord" in the room with us now?
>>98490471You are here so... yeah.
>>98490464>"Horus Heresy was the result of mom taking the kids away from dad to spite him"elaborate on that
>>98490474I see. And when did you first stop taking your medication?
>>98490458This but unironically, we need more abhumans in general serving in the guard.
>>98490479
>>98490429>get human snipers>use ratling rulesDone.>"but lower stats"Ok, so:>get female human snipers>use ratling rules
Tau women...
>>98490428>>98490410Do NOT do this
>>98490471>is this "discord" in the room with us now?yes actually!
>>98490458I like how abhumans, who are a science fiction analog for human enthnic groups are segregated into different units and nobody thinks that's a problem because 20% of them are painted brown.
>>98490479https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Erda
>>98490364Most humans strongly prefer (or are even incapable of otherwise enjoying without) a personal stand in, self insert, recognizable aspect of themselves, etc. in entertainment. This isn't really a debate, its part of the previous representations, power fantasy, being a badass space knight, how blue good guy marines have been the central figure for a long time at this point, etc. Not a thing I need but also not a thing I dislike. Its the other side of the inclusive argument, that there can and should be things that appeal to guys in a more traditional masculine way, as they had been for some time. Again, not an argument I have a problem with. The push is from simultaneously trying to expand markets to more people who will buy thing because it has a face closer to their on it and the last decade of cultural war pushing who should be catered to the most, idealized, etc. Its lame. Broadening an audience always involves making the content less interesting and complex necessarily. Its been happening as entertainment controllers aggregate and everything turns into a homogeneous paste. There's debate about how much a company can expand its audience without alienating enough of the core user base, we see that debate played out here every day. Currently there's enough paypigs GW has directly stated they can make whatever as long as its a marine and it doesn't matter at all. So they'll probably keep doing that. I'm sorry. Socioeconomically the heyday of things we like is probably fucked in terms of constant supply of things made specifically for millennial guys who aren't afraid of being guys in public. On the plus side smaller niche communities driven by enthusiasts and a return to those sort of gaming clubs and environments is a thing we can always make. Its better in some ways because you can curate and gatekeep, but it is certainly more effort than just rolling up to the flgs like its 2000.
>>98490479The chaos gods played kick the baby with all the primarchs, which in turn led to many of them receiving the trauma and wounds that ended up ruining them
>>98490498Who are the ratlings suppose to be? with all the stealing and sex they do makes me think roma
>>98490479He means Erda being one of the like, 3 different people responsible for scattering the primarchs, which she did because she thought rolling the planetary gacha during an active apocalypse would give her kids a better chance at happiness than letting the Emperor raise them.And she was fucking right. Guilliman and Khan had great childhoods so thats 2 more happy kids than would have happened otherwise.Sure Angron got butchered, Kurze fell out of hell and landed sonewhere worse, Lion was a feral child and Lorgar straight up got diddled but shit happens
>>98490509>(or are even incapable of otherwise enjoying without) a personal stand in, self insert, recognizable aspect of themselvesWe call these Democrats round these here parts.
>>98490496hold up.
>>98490496ANON NO
list of things not approved by /40kg/:>primaris>eldar>orks ecks dee ecks dee>xenos in general>nulore>old lore>secondaries>model posters>painting>modeling>reading>tournaments>narrative games>casual games>homebrew>playing 40k after 4th edition>traitor guard>decal>female custodes>james workshop>funlist of things approved by /40kg/:>4th edition>firstborn marines>blast templates
>>98490528feudal world guard, Hashut Marines,
>>98490528blast templates are awesome, don't be talking shit about blast templates.
>>98490496RIP
>>98490528actually no, /40kg/ also hates firstborn. along with marines in general, and they also hate imperial guard
I love this place because I still haven't seen the word "Diabolical" being used here yet. We're so secluded.
>>9849054299% of posters are too low iq for a word that longhalf of them can barely solve the new captchas
>>98490496>ANON YOU CAN’T POST PONY SHIT!>ITS AGAINST RULE 15 ANON!>ANNOOOOON!!!!
>>98490539I sure do miss blast templates though!
>>98490493I can't have this so the world must burn
>>98490519No, its not a particularly politically oriented disability. Its why bob the fighter's a thing, its why 32mm heroic scale is the default. Most humans are very bad at abstraction and can't into scope.
>>98490498The state of modern fiction is distinctly post-analogy. Battletech recently decided an authoritarian civilization whose entire culture was fabricated from whole cloth, and features a caste system, and where one of the most important elements of status is the traceability of genetic lineage to a specific group of hand selected gene donors which includes black people, now, suddenly has American racial discrimination in it after 40 years of that not being a thing."Niggers" is the whole thing. There are no other thoughts happening there.
>>98490501Let's not exaggerate too hard here, the Emperor still had the opportunity to fix the damage Erda caused but in most cases just said "lol the Primarchs are just tools anyways" and let Angron suffer the Nails and Kurze suffer mental illness even though he was fully aware both were broken (along with treating Mortarion, Perturabo, and Lorgar like he despised them). Plus he did the dumbest thing of all and trusted Horus not to be tempted by Chaos, even though he knew whoever he nominated as Warmaster would definitely get targeted for corruption by Chaos, for... some reason. Horus wasn't even the most loyal of the primarchs, or the strongest willed. Dude was already laying the foundations for a rebellion even before he got shanked with a poop knife. He basically was looking for any excuse to rise up against the Emperor and Chaos gave it to him.
I like orks :D
>>98490493What's the preferred method of extraction?
>>98490560>I like or-ACK!
>>98490559Horus was obviously the coolest of all the primarchs and he definitely had the largest dick so that's why the Emperor trusted him
>>98489884Needs a goldfish edit of that stompa
>>98490560same :D
You really need to stop using that word.
>>98490575das est verboten
>>98490557they hated him because he spoke the truth>>98490583which word
>>98490549arent there rules where you cant even mention it
>>98490519WRONGlike >>98490556 its not oriented one way or the other. its why a lot of conservatives can only watch war movies/westerns with white men as the leads, and then can’t watch an episode of deep space nine.
>>98489586>though this could have actually just been the exodite kill team enemy?The Exodite box was supposed to be a proper box vs the Cadian Spectre recon team, but GW execs decided that they needed some way to sell people their shitty Beast Snaggas and they knew Exodites were a really flashy long-awaited new release, so they forced the Snaggas in with them and then needed somewhere else to put the recon team, so they took the new Red Terror model that was being held for the Tyranid Codex release and made a second NPO box with that. Thus we got two of these weird shitty single-player KT releases in a row instead of one great versus box of two actual teams.
>>98490598yeah it's like candlejack, you're not sup
>>98490559>trusted Horus
>>98490612rip anon, shouldn't have said his name.
>>98490560
>>98490614He genuinely had autism. There is no other explanation. The master of mankind was the biggest sperg who ever lived.
>>98490352eldar aspects, farseers, spiritseers, maybe it will affect on dark eldar too if they get refresh
>>98490447You're the one that brought this stuff up, so this is you in the image more than anything.
>>98490447Kek, saved
>>98490614why did the Emperor genetically engineer his sons instead of just giving some broads the ol' in-n-out?
>>98490380this says otherwise >>98490346
>>98490625>2 seconds later>*CLANG* *CLANG* *CLANG*>WAAAAAGH> *CLANG* *CLANG* *CLANG*
>>98490365he blsloppise Malekith and Morathi incestship, wrote about brothels and drugdens on most puritan craftworld, makes sexist jokes, canonize male howling banshee exarch and makes jain zar feels horny. He is far better than brooks to be honest
>>98490642they always play dumb and act like these things just manifest themselves instead of being rigidly enforced from the top down
>>98490637He wanted them all to be versions of himself while also being essentially artifical perpetuals, erda explains that trying to make any amount of perpetuals like that is basically impossible via normal evolution.
>>98490446>Have all had female models for yearsNo, the obligatory gender quota in their kits only happened after >>98490346
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98490614To be completely fair, if the Emperor told him about the Webway project, Horus would then ask "but why? We've just finished conquering the galaxy for you, Father, why do you need Eldar tech? We're doing just fine" and then the Emperor would have to explain >A) that he doesn't actually want his Primarchs to rule over humanity (strike one)>B) that he doesn't want Astartes to replace humanity as a new, superior breed (strike two)>C) that the Emperor himself doesn't want to rule over humanity, calling into question the entire Imperium's purpose and existence (strike three)But in actuality that he actually wants humanity, the filthy stinky losers that the Astartes had to lead to victory in the Great Crusade, short-lived stupid little weaklings, to rule themselves. That is, after they go into the Hyperbolic Webway Chamber and train for a million years until they're all gigachad super psykers like the Emperor himself and people like Horus and the Legions will be utterly irrelevant and forgotten because he never really wanted them except as a means to an end.
>>98490664>after they go into the Hyperbolic Webway Chamber and train for a million years until they're all gigachad super psykers like the Emperor himself and people like Horus and the Legions will be utterly irrelevant and forgotten because he never really wanted them except as a means to an endso... did that happen?
Where's the best place to get 'nid STLs, I just had an amazing idea but most of the stuff I could find through search engines was just directories that lead to 404s
All Horus Heresy BL slop is nulore ignore that goes against the intention of the creator or 40k. You should basically just not give a shit about any of it, since none of it even makes sense.
>>98490603That makes a lot of sense since the spectre squad is very forest coded.
>>98490670The best nid places locked themselves down and are gatekeeping.
>>98490666Nope. Magnus ruined everything by blowing up the Webway project before it could be finished and stabilized.
>>98490626>>98490614did matt ward really make this comic
>>98490626The deal for power the Emperor made with the Chaos gods actually left him unable to talk about Chaos at all, not just unwilling.
>>98490676Well how do I ungatekeep them being a pack of niggers and not just dumping their stuff on an anonymous service that GW can't touch like the nonces they are?
Look at this poor bastard I found tucked away in a dresser. Got this model from the 8th edition starter book they made from like 2017 I think. Tempted to paint him since I have yet to start on that stuff
>>98490673nigga sound salty
>>98490688>I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
>>98490626I have a much simpler explanation.
>>98490518>doesn't want Emperor to turn the Primarchs into weapons of war >proceeds to eject the infants into space hoping they land on some habitable planets with maybe human life on it>Emps finds them anyways because he was going to go out conquering and enslaving planets regardless of not having the Primarchs >half of the Primarchs had good to ok childhoods>other half were so mentally fucked, miserable, and traumatized they couldn't be helped >all of them ended up helping the Emperor anyways and the galaxy still got giga fucked >proceeds to never leave her cave after the divorce only to die from Erebus' poop knife that perma kills perpetuals I'll never forget how Erda's plan was so retarded Erebus offered her a place on the side of Chaos because he genuinely believed she was evil for what she did and was Chaos' greatest ally.
>>98490686Definitely not with that attitude
>>98490409>>98490448The Adolphus Apostasy
>>98490707>be woman>be retardedthis all checks out
>>98490688>8th edition was 12 years ago
Why don't haemonculi make deldar version of assassins? Surely they can do better than the big dumb retards they currently pump out?
>>98490707>doesn't want Emperor to turn the Primarchs into weapons of war She was fine with them being his generals. Her only grievance was that he wasn't going to raise them as children with free will.>I'll never forget how Erda's plan was so retarded Erebus offered her a place on the side of Chaos because he genuinely believed she was evil for what she did and was Chaos' greatest ally.Erebus was really just talking shit to get into her head, telling her that everything she did was Chaos's plan all along and she just made their job easier for them. Of course, Erda had just nuked 4 Greater Daemons sent to assassinate her so it's obvious Chaos did not regard her as an ally or a useful puppet but a threat that needed to be removed ASAP.
>>98490711Okay so do you just want to masturbate about being in the club all day.We're all very impressed anon thank you for showing us how large and impressive you 'nid dick we can't have is I'm sure the grapes are very sweet.Does that satisfy you?I just wanted to kitbash a few different designs together in blender for an animation without remodelling every little piece myself from scratch.
>>98490559>for... some reasonMy headcanon is that the "deal" the emperor made with the chaos gods for the creation of the primarchs was that half of them were to be rightfully theirs, so he knew half were going to be fucked up, but couldn't be sure of which ones.
>>98490722reeeee stop stealing from WHFB
>>98490528>/40kg/This guy must be a faggot next time I'll see him I'll break his nose
>>98490730I'm not in the nid club, I'm just telling you that the best place for nid stl is a closed group, and that you're definitely not reaching that place if your attitude is bitchy and about to share out of the bounds of the group what those people are keeping within the group.Maybe think a little and find a solution.
>>98490722>Why don't haemonculi make deldar version of assassins?Because genetic enhancements on their own are boring to Haemonculi. They don't do what they do to make people better, they do it to break them worse. You have to make it worth their while for them to go through the motions and give you a legitimate enhancement, like Scourges needing to pay fortunes to get their wings and other modifications without any negative side effects added in.>Surely they can do better than the big dumb retards they currently pump out?Of course they can. But that would be less fun than turning their victims into screaming, anguished abominations. They're more interested in things like studying the genetic degradation of Primaris geneseed, so they collect a marine from every chapter in the Imperium to compare samples.
>>98490602That's one ugly jew
>>98490753turn on your monitor
>>98490759Being antisemetic to me goy? Let's see how you like life without a payment processor, better yet without banks.
>>98490722>Why don't haemonculi make deldar version of assassins?It's heavily implied that the Mandrakes and Aelindrach are the product of Haemonculus experiments, so technically they already did. I think the most convincing theory I heard was that during the Fall of the Eldar, the greatest geniuses of the flesh cults were going beyond merely surgically altering people and instead were altering realities and subrealms in the Webway, such as transferring minds and souls into locations to become that subrealm. So Aelindrach, a dimension of shadows with a will of its own that only responds to willpower and force of thought, might actually be the mind of an ancient Haemonculus spreading through the Webway like a giant tumor. And Mandrakes are Eldar who got lost in that darkness and warped by it.
>>98490509I honestly think it's the opposite now. I actually like making my own character in things like games, RPGs, and especially miniatures where I try to kitbash my own captains and stuff.But now it seems like 40k has worked hard to move away from you making your own dudes and made it about a pantheon of important heroes and villains with their own models and rules that are so powerful you basically need to run them, and making your own chapter or craft world etc is an afterthought.And the community seems to love it. They love gushing to me about how badass X character is or about chapter cultures and stuff and I rarely see custom chapters anymore. It's the same in MTG. People seemingly were polled about if they liked self-inserting as a wizard who controls weird monsters or if they wanted to just see attractive human characters living out the drama for them and people seemed to just choose the later. I have no idea why but people don't want to actually self-insert or use their imagination to create fun personal stories, they just want to be fans of other people's imaginations. I don't buy the whole "representation matters" shit desu, and I never saw myself in someone else's character like that.
Huh...
>>98490694He definitely is, I would be too if I created the entire IP that made the company successful beyond their wildest dreams and then got fired once I'd lived out my usefulness and had to watch while soulless corporate jews enshittified my creation.
>>98490728>She was fine with them being his generals. Her only grievance was that he wasn't going to raise them as children with free will.>Emps proceeds to be super nice to Magnus via warp skype calls and Horus regarded his years with his father to be the happiest years of his life Considering the Primarchs had actual free will and could think for themselves unlike the Custards who can never disobey the Emperor...I think they would've been fine. Alpharius was more raised by Malcador which is why he's an overthinking autist so that's not entirely Emps' fault. >Of course, Erda had just nuked 4 Greater Daemons sent to assassinate her so it's obvious Chaos did not regard her as an ally or a useful puppet but a threat that needed to be removed ASAP.Her death felt more like someone at editorial telling the writer to get fucking rid of Erda because no actually liked her. The perpetuals in general were an awful idea and I can see why a lot of them were killed off during HH.
>>98490787I thought he quit because they wouldn't let him End Times WHFB
>>98490744>and about to share out of the bounds of the group what those people are keeping within the group.You entirely misunderstood what I was saying then, I would call you an ESL retard but I'm posting at 3am and probably fucked up my phrasing.>not just dumping their stuff on an anonymous service that GW can't touch like the nonces they are?By this I meant that GW are nonces, and I miss the days when people would host assets in a manner that was mostly immune to corporate cucking, whereas nowdays they want to do it with a name and circlejerk attached so they can feel popular and important.Old anon yells at d*scord-shaped cloud basically.Goodnight maybe someone else has a clue. I found a fine enough haruspex knockoff for a small fee at least, but kinda like I said above >people opening themselves up to having their shit nuked because they want to make a few pittance in sales
>>98490722Don't DEldar have Mandrakes as assassins?
>>98490792No? The fuck? They fired him and THEY did End Times.
>>98490779>this mysterious other thing is actually a sockpuppet of this common thingThat's lame.
>>98490795>>98490744forgot to even say, I wouldn't go out of my way to reshare their shit I only care enough to get them for myself I don't need a bunch of autists hounding me for fucking with their secret club's exclusivity.
>>98490779>It's heavily impliedYou got a source on that? Because this is the first I have ever heard of it
>>98490209why would you read 30k slop when getting into 40k? 99.99% of horus heresy happenings are completely irrelevant to 40k.
>>98490810This, holy shit. The number of times I have to tell people this is astonishing. Why the fuck are retarded newfags starting out with 30k?
>>98490785Might be something to how the self-insert and identification has changed generationally. Its even worse than the opposite anon. Its a grotesque exaggeration of the same but all the boring and dumb parts have been encouraged.They just can't imagine their own heroes or better versions of themselves, they can only get second hand fulfillment through a superhero. Its a larger and easier market that makes more of itself the more you pander to it. Its not even like >make up your own space knights is that deep but its a lot more steps even if its just read a different book that isn't money directly to GW. Freedom of creation is attention that isn't at GW profit items. Brand identity and market capture is a solved game.
>>98490810what do you suggest I read then, smart guy?
>>98490407That is fair anon.
>>98490818>>98490823
>>9849053140k died with their removal
>>98490806>Other rumours hold that the first Mandrakes were created by Haemonculi employed by the Wych Cult of Grief.[6]It's from the Eldar & Dark Eldar Collector's Guide which I unfortunately don't have on me. It's only one of a few proposed origins for them so take it with a grain of salt. The other common suggestion for where they came from is that the Eldar during the Fall started humping daemons and Mandrakes were what were conceived.The other stuff about the pre-Fall flesh cults fusing souls to subrealms of the Webway, that's from Path of the Dark Eldar, more specifically Path of the Archon I believe, the final book where you get a lot of a Haemonculus's perspective and knowledge laid out.
>>98490810How about for starters top dogs in 40k are from 30k
>>98490823The fluff section of the fucking basic rulebook and the codexes of the factions
>>98490818>>98490810It's not as if 40k books are any better lmao
>>98490840what is this? someone with actual sense in /40kg/?
>>98490840I want lore tho
Jannies need a pay cut
>>98490840That's a terrible place to read about 40k lmfao, have you opened a codex in the last 10 years? The good old days where codexes were troves of lore and neat fluff are long fucking gone
>>98490823Eisenhorn, Gaunt's Ghosts, Last Chancers, anything by William King or Peter Fehervari or Gordon Rennie, fuck even Cain. Just do not start with the ten thousand year old irrelevant faggot spin-off for primarch autists that has almost nothing to do with 40k.
>>98490753I was going to just post a pic of the nagus as the lord jew, but I just realized that his bodyguard is a literal voiceless golem hahaha. watched that show maybe 3 times, and never made the connection.
>>98490853NTA but that IS the lore nigger
>>98490495Is it bad that I instinctively heard the fancam audio over this?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-97wFxoIUg
>>98490856I didn't say to pick the most recent ones.
>>98490866WOAH cool it with the racism outside of /b/!
Lore stops being canon once I decide that I don't like it.
>>98490845these niggas think some book about gay necrons travelling through time will tell you more about 40k than the horus heresy KWAB
>>98490858>EisenhornI also got Eisenhorn you turbosperg >>98490296I just asked Grok what the best books to read to get into 40k were and went with it
>>98490050permanent means permanent
>>98490872I think he meant "nigger" in the non-racial sense
…traditional games?
>>98490875Damn straight
>>98490845Over 80% of BL is slop whether it's HH or not but there are rare good standout books among both. The thing is that the HH is a spin-off that's not really relevant to the actual game so pick the good 40k ones instead.
>>98490878Stop taking advice from Abominable Intelligence.
>>98490881>necroposting a 2 hour old post to talk about the mutiesuddenly the decalfag “mysteriously” going to appear and have a meltdown isn’t he?
>>98490890if you don't know where you come from, how can you tell where you're going?
>>98490883In that case, where I can find this Lore Nigger?
>>98490872Does it count as racism if you just use it as a generic term for an anonymous guy who is probably not black?
>>98490836You don't need to read 50 books of the horus heresy to know who they are for what 40k is concerned.>once upon a time, the emperor united mankind with an army of supersoldiers and his geneengineered demigod sons>half of them rebelled against him and almost destroyed the imperium, and put him on a fucking chair where he sat for 10k years>guilliman was one of the loyalist sons of the emperor, presumed near-dead but ultimately risen again in recent times>abaddon was one of the favourites of the arch-traitorous son of the emperor, mr heresy, who has been leading chaos against the imperium since thenthere, done, you can get the rest along the way
>>98490896Only Cotton Eye Joe knows that…
>>98490898there's a few good youtube channels, it's all written and dictated by AI and accompanied by AI imagery tho
>>98490896This is a retarded argument because the HH prequels didn't come out until 40k already had decades of lore established and were sloppily shoehorned in, they aren't required at all to enjoy the 40k universe and in fact do more harm than good.
>>98490903@grok is this true????
>>98490209The White Scars books are legit. Jaghatai Khan: Warhawk of Chogris, Scars, The Path of Heaven, Warhawk. Chris Wraight in general is a bretty gud author for BL.
>>98490913
>>98490921/hhg/ is that way --->
Legion is the best HH book.
>>98490896this isn’t a bible sized history book, 40K isn’t going to leave you to the wolves like that. anytime they’ll bring up something from the horus heresy, they’ll give you a quick rundown on it and what’s relevant before moving along.
>>98490707>Erebus offered her a place on the side of Chaos because he genuinely believed she was evilThat's not what happened.
>>98490902Technically yes, because you're either comparing a bad person to a racial group, insulting the racial group by association with that person, or comparing a bad racial group with a person, insulting that person by association.This comes before whether it's racist or not to believe that racial groups can be bad. although it's both racist, and true.
>>98490928Oops meant to say Know No Fear.
>>98490917Somewhat tangential to the topic at-hand, but are White Scars the only founding legion that's not less cool than its successors? Space Wolves don't count because they have a single successor.
>>98490875this is the only correct way to think about lore
>>98490858Also legit recs.
>>98490932>say my LGS gypped me>get b& for racism outside /b/:(
Delete every Primarch and High Lord tier character from the game. My Warboss with a squad of Nobz has killed like 20 Primarchs it doesn't fucking make sense
>>98490875All fluff is canon, when you don't like it it just becomes canon hearsay instead of a canon fact.
>>98490903Also there are big bugs eating everything, big green things fighting everything, and a bunch of metal skeletons trying to bodysnatch humans. Oh and the most """immediate""" threat is a big cyborg bat demon who no one likes but who keeps constantly btfoing everyone
>>98490896This summary is literally all you need to know about the Horus Heresy, you have now saved an invaluable amount of time slogging through dozens upon dozens of novels worth of garbage bolter porn slop and cringe retcons and mary sue tier fanfic insert characters, and now you can read the good stuff involving imperial guard fighting orks and sisters of battle fighting genestealer cults and inquisitors uncovering chaos conspiracies and stuff like that.
>racespooky
>>98490939I'm not even sure there's ever been a WS successor novel. IDK man they just are cool. When I think about it, almost every WS character in a book just has "it".
>>98490955It's funny because Priestley would have liked to flesh it out more but this one little text box he shat out in an afternoon ended up becoming an entire wargame and 65 book novel series, made by other people, that he still cringes at
>>98490955>the good stuff involving imperial guard fighting orks and sisters of battle fighting genestealer cults and inquisitors uncovering chaos conspiracies and stuff like that.ok which novels are those
>>98490962https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Guard_Omnibus:_Volume_OneThis is a good one to start with
>>98490955wow this really doesn't sound anything like the modern depiction of the Heresy, there's not even mention of the Emperor being wounded in his battle with Horus, the remaining traitor marines are said to only be "some" remnants instead of a looming existential threat to the Imperium, etc. etc.I like this version of the Heresy a lot more.
>>98490971ok and then what
>>98490979I mean it's not even the oldest version, that screenshot was from an Epic supplement from 92, the original HH stuff goes back to like 88 and this just left some things out to save space. But yeah the HH is generally better the less detail you know about it.
>>98490982It's a 700+ page omnibus, why don't you read it first and then come back and ask for more.
>>98490962Ravenor + Eisenhorn series, Vaults of Terra series, Gaunt's Ghosts, Last Chancers, Hive, Sea of Souls, Peter Fehervari books for Chaos mindfuckery, Warhammer crime novels. Tons more. Space Muhrine slop is generally pretty mid at best. Some of the Xenos books are cool too. Twice Dead King for Necrons, Valedor and Path of the Dark Eldar for some Eldar and Druhkari stuff.
>>98490993This but skip Valedor and I can't speak to whether the Necron stuff is good or not I haven't read it.
>>98490191Apparently he's not only not on their payroll, but they've actively blacklisted him from their influencer network. He just shills for the love of the game.
Should I buy 6 kataphron destroyers and 3 breachers at a 40% discount even if I don't own any mechanichus, but wouldn't mind having them
>>98490409>The Ra Rebellion>The Rabellion
>>98491007Nah Valedor is cool you elf hater. Twice Dead King duology is awesome lore for the Crons.
>>98491021yes, they're cool models
>>98490993>Space Muhrine slop is generally pretty mid at bestHey man Devastation of Baal has some good stuff in there
>>98490993>Ravenor + Eisenhornfun stories but they rape the lore, hard>Vaults of Terraew>Last Chancers, Hivenah>Peter Fehervari booksthose are ok>Space muhrine slopStorm of Iron is peak, most can be skipped
>>98491036>elf haterRetard, I didn't say anything about the problem being Eldar, it's just dogshit writing, Guy Haley sucks dick.
>>98490313And the Age of Apostasy was actually the Age of Heresy but also loses the alliteration and Age of Heresy already referred to Horus, kek.
>>98491086It's also got some total garbage in there, too. Guy Haley is extremely inconsistent, so much of his writing is bad with the occasional peak where you're like "why isn't the rest of it like this?"
Humans and kroot should have sex to.help smooth over those generations of mutual hatred
>>98491146I was going to say Kroot reproduction isn't compatible with humans but then realized that if the Kroot ate enough human women they could produce an adaptation with a vagina, maybe.
>>98489941>I think GW has really polished their production pipeline and at this point the biggest delay is in marketing windowsIf this is true, it hard confirms that GW planned to squat the Steel Legion (probably because "nahzee inspiration") and only reneged due to backlash.If their "polished production pipeline" didn't make even ONE proof-of-concept model in the 2-3 years it takes to get a release box finished, they had no plans to make them and only reneged on that due to the online pants-shitting.>>98490659Fwiw, GW does do a bit of the "middle ground" on this issue, even if done unintentionally by providing options for certain parts.A box of Cadian guardsmen contains 10 clearly male bodies and 25 heads. 4 of the heads are alts for the sergeant (1 is female, 1 is sculpted to be a black man), so that leaves 21 heads for the other 9 bodies.Of those heads, there exist 13 that are "white man" heads, 3 that can be "anything" (because of face masks/rebreathers), 3 female non-officers, and 2 that are "black man bone structure."If you want to make your guardsmen all white men, you can do that. You can also go all-out on DEI the other way if you want (but it's still going to be at least 40% white men).I'm not arguing that it's not intentional or that it's a non-issue to care about the intentional changes GW has done because of this, just pointing out that you CAN avoid the issue in all guard units that aren't named characters.
>>98490349Gimme stl link. This is so good.
>>98491031>RabellionI laughed. Thanks anon.
>>98491152You would just jizz on them and rub it in, that's how they do it
>>98490346People think this is political. it really isn't. It's just marketing and executive types seeing that their product has low interaction with 50% of the population. They want to expand to that other 50% and if they don't the board of directors will fire them and replace them with people who will.Expect an easy to paint range of low-model count minis to show up in 1-5 years that is dominated with female miniatures. My bet is that a missing primarch will be a woman and she has a whole army of all-female space marines.
Serious question, do you guys think we might get a Hrud release in the near-ish future?Keep in mind before you answer with "lol yeah right never ever" people said that about everything from plastic Sisters of Battle to plastic Krieg to Squats getting unsquatted to Exodites, and have been wrong every single time.
>>98490993Is Path of a Dark Eldar worth reading even if I don't really care about Eldar? Like is it just a good book all on its own? I see it recommended all the time and I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it.
>>98490903BRO WHAT THE HECK SPOILERS I BARELY GOT TO THE ANATOLIA CHAPTER
>>98490501It still amazes me that the writers thought this was heckin girl boss but instead reduced 40k to being a nightmare dystopia because a woman had a maternal instinct moment then a novel’s worth of justification after the damage was done. Similar thing with purple hair Star Wars lady. A bit weird how characters meant to be something like smart get written as idiots.
>>98491173It's Andy Chambers, so yes. He's one of the OG greats who made 40k what it was in the golden age. He's not normally a BL writer, he was head codex writer and 40k game designer for awhile.
Mydudes? Their main tactic is going straight through warp storms to ambush their enemies.>BUT YOU CANT JU-its fine as long as the dark gods will it nigga chillax
>>98491170>1-5 yearsway more than 5 years already passed from when that comment was postedit is absolutely political, there's been no greater engagement from girls into the hobby
>>98490895SO now the people insulting him are also him, great.. just awesome.
>>98491170>People think this is political. it really isn't.Lol, lmao
>>98491193Yeah I mean if you're playing Chaos that's the one time that I'd say a tactic like that is possible and reasonable
>>98491196>himkek
>>98491173Yes, it's good.
>>98491196Cancer can mutate to become viral.
>>98490346The Imperium has always been inclusive and tolerant to humans
>>98490440I’m surprised that the 40k secondaries on the other social medias haven’t made a big fuss to try and get lower prices using those kind of talking points.Instead it is just joke is sex fanart, same joke memes and culture war. Only big one was “faces of warhammer” and that meme only validated the “women posting thing with their face inserted” phenomenon.
what's up guys where do i go to join the space wolves :>
>>98491217The leather club two blocks down.
>>98491152>>98491165>Local human doesn't understand why all the kroot girls keep asking him for back rubs. >Whenever he asks any of the Tau about it they just look at him like he's crazy
>>98491170You do realize its already well understood that Corpos are pressured from all the massive financial institutions to be more inclusive or face penalties and future stock uncertainty and that they also get subsidies for proving their diversification right? YOU IDIOT!>>98491203You're only proving that you're either working with someone who can see when Im posting or that you're actually so autistic that you can spot me from a single sentence.
>>98491198It’s important to remember that the Emperor was basically just a standard liberal.
>>98491216>I’m surprised that the 40k secondaries on the other social medias haven’t made a big fuss to try and get lower prices using those kind of talking points.They have, it just goes absolutely nowhere because the powers-that-be don't astroturf it the way they do with the gender inclusiveness bullshit.
>>98491242It doesn't matter what the Emperor was in 30k (fanfiction), since he's been silent/dead for 10,000 years by the time of 40k.
>>98491241>You're only proving that you're either working with someone who can see when Im posting or that you're actually so autistic that you can spot me from a single sentence.I really hope you're trolling at this point because I refuse to believe you're so fucking retarded you don't realize how much your posting stands out from other anons. Yes, all it takes is one sentence.
>>98491251Sure but the Imperium, defenders of all humanity, have no reason to be racist. The Tau, sure, the Tau are eugenicist, I could easily see the Tau promoting white human bloodlines to ensure competency, but the Imperium isn’t eugenicist, quite the opposite, their best and brightest are made sterile.
>>98490719be mewant to go back 12 years agoend of thought
It will never cease to amuse me how much the turbo-autist regulars in these threads think they can't be immediately identified just from their writing style. These guys are so low IQ that more intelligent people spotting patterns is inconceivable to them.
>>98491252>t.insane guy without models
>>984907198th edition was 2017 anon. 9 years ago.
>>98491273Keep these comments to yourself in your padded room, freak show.
>>98491274you're already going for ban number 157 huh
>>98491193>haunted space hulk that roars to life with mutated and unliving marines whose consciousness exists in past, present and future descends upon a an agriworld, but the agriworld was converted to a hive world several centuries ago, decades after when the warband began their journey to invade
>>98491283Nigger how are you calling anyone else a freakshow, you put furfag wolf heads on all your Knights and shit and type like a fucking Chris-chan tier lolcow.
>>98491216Culture war stuff very conveniently steers around the things that would often fix the issues at hand and usually end up1. co-opted by people acting in self interest or2. sabotaged with all the built up momentum blown on pointless shitNot that I think "cheaper plastic toys" is a burning issue, but it is interesting how totally repugnant 40k as a hobby is to nonwhites and nonmen. 15 years and I've never seen anything other than another dude play it. Watching my mom and sister dress up and paint their nails made me realize how similar the painting side of things are between the two.
>>98491274you calling anyone insane is absolutely hilarious
>>98491291>you put furfag wolf heads on all your KnightsThis is exceedingly normal amongst the Wolves player base retard.
>>98491302Why is this trash meme posted ad nauseam without repercussion?
>>98491303Yeah because a lot of Wolves players are creepy closeted furfaggots like you.
>>98491294>it is interesting how totally repugnant 40k as a hobby is to nonwhites and nonmenTbf there is one group of non-whites who absolutely love 40k and the Imperium especially: Russians
>5 nobs+big boss and 10 boyz vs. 10 legion of the damned infernal marines with an armageddon wasteland terrain, the LotD responded to the distress call of the dying/dead dreadnaught and manifested from out of nowhere to rescue him or what's left of him>250 bucksNowShould I sell 5 of the marinesFeels like..... people will probably pay a lot for them. But I really need the nobs. Not so much the boys, I have a lot of boyz. Not sure how many people want the boyz. If the exodite box and devlan box were scalped a lot, this won't exist online at all after the initial release due to the fetish for the legion of the damned some people have. Like the deathwatch box being sold out for 6 months after release but worser.
>>98491310Because it's true and because you are permanently banned. You never have the moral high ground in these arguments. You can't talk about anyone else's posts deserving repercussions because every single post you ever make is against the rules.
Sex! With Tau women!
>>98491303No it isn't lol
>>98491312>
>>98491158Reverse image search is a very useful tool.https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-653727
Can we talk about something else, like new units you're playing or collage projects you're making?
>>98491325Remember how GW got so much backlash for this shit they squatted this set and replaced it? That was hilarious. We really need to get the furries and scalies out of the model department at GW.
>>98491324Can we see your Wolves? >>98491318Idk why you think anyone here wants to hear about your personal vendetta with a random peer, TALK WARHAMMER...its that simple.
>>98491340>TALK WARHAMMERWrong thread retard, this is the 40k thread, go to /aosg/ or whatever. Only complete newfags call 40k "Warhammer".
>>98491340>Can we see your Wolves?sure, you're a disgrace to the faction and do more damage to its reputation here than the 5e refresh did
>>98491346You're truly incapable of acting like a normal adult, it's so fucking tiresome.
>>98491352Holy based, apart from being Pr*maris
>>98491336You can call me a furfag but I thought the helmets were interesting if not a little too on-the-nose, although its kind of fucked how space wolves get so much unique shit compared to other chapters. Imagine if salamanders got dragon helmets or imperial fists getting... i dunno, fist helmets.
>>98491172Those were things people actually asked for - most people probably had to google what Hrud even are.People saying that about those released is irrelevant. There are probably millions of fringe suggestions people have come up with that haven't ever seen a release.
>>98491346You gave up on your shitposts about how modelposting doesn't belong here and moved to trying to force this one huh
>>98491352You're a traitorous pig who should be left to the ice-trolls, stop causing dissension in the ranks faggot.
>>98491360>or imperial fists getting... i dunno, fist helmets.The image of this that popped into my mind was so fucking funny, gave me the best chuckle from a 4chan post in a long while, thanks anon
>>98491366Nah, permanent means permanentFuck off for good
>>98491369no ones fucking off anywhere, either learn to get along or get moving.
>>98491364Modelposting belongs here when it's organic "hey look at this thing I just finished" not when it's fags like decalmutant demanding it. And if it's an unfinished model it belongs in /wip/.The 40k thing is also just true, nothing forced about it. You can immediately spot newfags this way.
>>98489705i like the robots and the goofy vehiclesi don't like anything to do with the actual squats
>>98491377The title of every thread is "Warhammer 40k General" you fat autistic retard.
>working on collage project>pick out some perfect chunks of cork>make a couple of them even more perfect>look back>I lost the other chunk
>>98491367STOP. LAUGHING. AT. MY. CULTURE.
>>98491383I'm actually very fit, not fat, and have extremely high IQ, not retarded. I am an attractive autistic genius. But the title of the thread is not what we're talking about, we're talking about how the shorthand for 40k is 40k and always had been going back decades. Not until very, very fucking recently, with a new influx of secondaries and tourists and newfags, did people start using the term "Warhammer" when talking about 40k. It used to be that if you said Warhammer people assumed you meant Fantasy, and if you meant Warhammer 40,000 you just said "40k". After Age of Sigmar came out this changed a bit because people would start specifying WHFB or AoS or 40k, but even then the term "Warhammer" was just almost never used. I think it's mostly the /v/ermin that started getting involved after stuff like Darktide and Space Marine 2 who have normalized saying "Warhammer".
>>98491405go seek the advice of a trained clinician anon, we can't help you here.
>>98491229Zog you!
>>98491420I'm just giving you newfags a history lesson. Not one thing wrong with what I said. I'm telling you after almost 30 years of being in this hobby and talking about 40k almost every day with people at half a dozen LGS over the years, or on GW forums (when they still existed) or Warseer or Dakkadakka or BolS or Bolter & Chainsword or here in /40kg/ for over a dozen years now, ~95% of the time people would just say "40k" and almost never ever "Warhammer", if they did use the term Warhammer it was just to say "Warhammer 40,000" mainly to imply someone was going too far off-topic. No one fucking EVER said "Warhammer" to mean 40k until around 3 years ago or so, it's all insufferable newfags.
>>98491453the conversation is over, talk shop or walk.
>>98491456Nah you don't get to contradict yourself during your daily 50 meltdowns then try to ignore your own redditor contradictions answer the question nigger
>>98491392I don't want you here either, you've extinguished any good will or benefit of doubt, you contribute nothing but shit, and the entire thread told you to fuck off multiple times, including by sodomising your dudes specifically in a community challenge.
>>98491431>doesn't deny the ban evasion accusationyour mere presence is an active detriment to /40kg/. go literally anywhere else.
>>98489525If they released a traitor command squad that can lead guard or cultists, and demote enforcer to support with his old point cost back, I’d be satisfied.
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>>98491473
How do you actually create your own map layouts and have it be "balanced"? Particularly for kill team? I like wargames but haven't played much but one thing that really catches me is how balanced are the maps? It seems like in games like these, a match can be decided from the start but just how shit or not shit the terrain is? Can you tell if a map layout is garbage by just looking at it? What makes a map layout trash? What makes it good?
>>98491533kill team is a fast game, just have a random but cool looking layout and then play two games on it, one in which one player chooses where to start and one in which the opponent does
>>98491172Maybe in Kill Team as a Non-Player Operative. Maybe in a box opposite a Deathwatch kill team that has 5 marines in all different armor types.
Lasguns are cooler than bolters, but not heavy bolters, which are narrowly defeated by arc weapons, that are in turn outclassed by volkite guns. So basically, I want more imperial units with volkite weapons.
How strong is a regular CSM compared to a Primaris? Like now that Loyalists have Primaris, what is the Chaos answer to that? Another lore question, it is often made clear that the CSM actually have "CENTURIES UPON CENTURIES UPON CENTURIES OF BATTLES!!!" But yet some factions of CSM have been jobbing relentlessly lore wise. What the fuck is going on there? How is it even possible that they have so much experience if that is true?Lastly, in this video, a Khorne Berserker blows the head SCHOOMVE off an Imperial Fist primaris. How accurate is that?
>>98491558>How strong is a regular CSM compared to a Primaris?Depends entirely on the story and writer. Every other answer is wrong.
>>98491568I kind of hate that you are right honestly.
>>98491561
Months ago, an anon suggested filling the gaps between the gaps and the tactical rock. The dreadnought has been rebased, and the gaps filled.
>>98491540Love this old school Bad Moon every time I see him.
>>98491558They're all effectively equivalent, the primaris enhancements were meant to give normal marines something to step up to the game of marines enhanced by chaos juice.>but manlets stood up to chaos marines just fine before only due to blatant plot armor, now the plot armor took the form of an asspull improvement for normal marines, but it achieves the same identical result of chaos marines and loyalist marines being at an equivalent level.
asking again, are cultists centric lists for csm playable in 11th?
>>98491558In warhammer video content, the power levels seem to be all over the place. Like the sister of battle holding her own against a Ork in melee. Seemed retarded.
>>98491558Magic, they’re all mutated and empowered by the warp to some extent. As far as primaris, it’s all kind of pointless lore, they’re already making chaos marines as big as primaris now. Whatever the lore is behind that who cares, chaos magic mutated them or something. As for the second part, even before the Heresy, World Eaters were fucking terrifying, but on the tabletop and in the lore they’re empowered by blessings from Khorne.
Who is more plot armored, the Custodes or Grey Knights?
>>98491590do you know sisters of battle wear power armor, right?
>>98491599at the moment it's grey knights, custodes are wanked but they jobbed to demons and chaos, with little to no notable heroics, meanwhile grey knights are wanked AND have over the top shit done by draigo
>>98491588Yeah absolutely, will you go 6-0 at a major tournament? Probably not, but you can win with the chaos cult detachment.However keep in mind if you want to go competitive with it, people are picking blast wargear options still because of green tide lists of Orks, so your cultist mobs are gonna get fucked.
>>98491615>power armorIf they do, so do guardsmen.Sisters have t3w1, just like guardsmen.
FACT: only csm should have 40k rules for HH units. Loyalists don't deserve relic tanks/dreads if they're gonna field them alongside buzzmarines and hovershit
>>98491599custodes haven't really had any plot and thus no need for plot armor. Grey knights at least are doing things right now.
>>98491599unless they have a name they don't have plot armor.
I was reading the book ghost legion.One of the best books I've read here in 2026.Death riders was probably the best, one of the bleakest books I've read. I knew only the Kriegers can bring absolute despair out but Steve lyons dropped the balls pretty hard with his latest book.Anyway I had a question for you guys. In this book ghost legion there's a regular human guy who is an adamus temple assassin, somehow he runs so fast that regular humans can't believe it, he outruns people trying to point a gun at him. He also kills a bunch of traitor space marines on his own, and he's so fast he can dodge their attacks and slay them. It doesn't make any sense to me. I knew assassin's were strong and could easily kill space marines but how can they be so deadly they can actually duel space marines?Somehow this adamus assassin was stronger than space marines with relic weapons and could even dodge their attacks without power armor. Weren't eversors supposed to be the ones who could fight space marines and they usually died at the end?
>>98491558The general rule has always beenCSM = worse gear and discipline but are literally magicSM = better gear and discipline but aren't magic
>>98491628CSM get daemon shit, so they don't deserve even 40k units.
OBESE MAN'S LEAKS ARE SO FAR IN THE FUTURE HE'S NOW GOT STUFF 2 YEARS IN ADVANCE
>>98491626That's not how it works, gameplay stats are abstraction, a s4 catachan is not the same as a s4 marine.Sisters of battle wear power armor and that gives them combat capabilities that you wouldn't expect a normal woman to have. You were expecting a normal woman to lose against an ork, you forgot she's got power armor, she can win against the ork now.
>>98491558marines are marines. primaris vs firstborn is a distinction with no lore relevancy imminently.
>>98491599Dark angels kill both.
>>98491628chaos shouldn't have hh shit either, 10k years passed, they're all rotten inside and out, they don't get to have the old toys.
>>98491558>Lastly, in this video, a Khorne Berserker blows the head SCHOOMVE off an Imperial Fist primaris. How accurate is that?extremely, khornate chads mog the fuck out of the pissfists
>>98491555Lasguns would be cooler than bolters if they were the lasguns from Dune.
>>98491558>Like now that Loyalists have Primaris, what is the Chaos answer to that?They literally have shit like Obliterators, Eightbound and Possessed which are fucked up mutant freaks with daemon juice.
>>98491599grey knights
>>98491555Volkite is a myth like primarchs
When it comes to unit selection for armies, how "must take" are some units for a given army? I don't play full scale 40k but play kill team and I am coming across many things that basically say "YOU HAVE TO TAKE THIS UNIT OR THE TEAM IS ASS" and its kind of pissing me off. I love the game though so I end up just running what I want and possibly sucking. Like would you run a unit if you hated how it looked and hated the lore of it and the only saving grace was that it was good stat wise or something? I don't know how autistic I am being about this. I hate the thought that some units are so polarizing that if you don't take them, you are plunging yourself into retard territory.
>>98491646Can someone answer my question?Do adamus assassin's have any enhancements? How can they move faster than space marines without armor?
>>98491656>abstractionShould power armor not work the same no matter if it's on a woman or a man? Toughness isn't a stat that is derived from muscle mass like strength for melee weapons, at least in the cases where the model is wearing armor. It's far easier to "quantify" defenses (such as toughness) via armor being a material with concrete properties.Unless that discrepancy between marines and sisters is down to the extra organs and the other body modifications that the marines undergo. But that then raises the question, why even have the armor if it's so irrelevant to their defense?
>>98491599Custodes never carved their name in the heart of a Primarch
>>98491655Why is GW already making items that are going to be shipped in 2028?
>>98491686nigger you waited less than 6 minutes to cry for an answer on a board that doesn't give a flying fuck about badly written books
>>98491655>new knightChaos version of the acastus or destrier?
>>98491676it's important for some armies and less important for others. as a general rule, paint and play what you want. It feels better to play the list you want to play and losing than it does winning with a list you don't really care about. unless you're playing competitive, half the game there is about optimization.
>>98491646all assassins are drugged and altered to superhuman levels, they're not just normal people with ninja training, even though a "normal person" in 40k can still be trained to unbelievable results
>>98491707It's an Ad Mech upgrade for the Destier, apparently
>>98491555dude how about more Drill weapons like the fellbore or the ones used by Centurions, would love to see Eldar and Tau getting absolute meat ground.
>>98491655why did you post a picture of the fat fuck instead of a pic of the supposed leak?
>>98491360>>98491367
>>98491615Power armor goes only so far. Orks are 7ft tall hulking brutes, that can crush armor with their fists, a sister will die to one easily.
>>98491716I hate it already.
/40kg/ - Politics
>>98491722it's an ad, ignore it
>>98491730>Power armor goes only so farand that far is giving a normal human a good fighting chance against an ork
>>98490722Haemonculi literally do evil shit just because.There is an entire haemonculi subculture who try to find new and interesting ways to die. Not to kill people, to die.
>>98491722I don't care for knights.
>admech knight upgradeSounds like DARK MECH news to me…
>>98491753Why tho? They're badass as heck.
>>98491665They get to have old toys because theirs are still held together by Chaos(tm). The loyalists lost the knowledge/resources to maintain theirs while the csm were able to substitute that knowledge with daemonology >run out a fuel that was last manufactured millenia ago on a world that is now an asteroid field? Throw slaves into the fuel tank and watch it run like new >hull too damaged to continue pushing through a defensive line? smear the blood of the enemy on the hull and it will knit itself back together
>>98491753that answers why you didn't post the sprue, but not why you posted the fat fuck, unless you're implying you care for the fat fuck
>>98491772>because theirs are still held together by Chaos(tm).no, they aren't, and if they were they would be completely unrecognisable compared to their pristine hh version, so either way you shouldn't get them
>>98491767Stop ban evading.
>>98491773Shut up decalfag.
>>98491007Twice dead king Ruin is easily the best Necron book.The Infinite and the Divine is a lot like Ciaphas Cain in that is great fun but a bad introduction to the faction. Its basically just two old robot men beefing for 10k years and destroying a planet 3 times to spite one another.
>>98491767Why do you keep coming back here when literally everyone here dislikes you? Instead of ban evading you should join a discord or a subreddit. I'm sure you'd have a far better time there.
Is it true that the Minotaurs are just Iron Warriors but loyal?
>>98491794meant for >>98491767
>>98491812yes
>>98491812No, it's the headcanon of the writer, but GW doesn't allow loyalist chapters with traitor geneseed to be actual canon, so you won't find any piece of fluff that confirms it.
>>98491812if they were they wouldn't be so feared
>>98491812It's not confirmed but there are some hints yes
>>98491808lets try and keep the discourse civil moving forward.
>>98491665Chaos should get corrupted versions of old legiones astartes equipment.Like if they ever update the chaos tanks they should use the Deimos pattern vehicles as a base to add chaos shit. Maybe give them a chaos Sicarian too.Literally just using 30k kits is cringe, even if you play Iron Warriors.
>>98491808Is it not obvious that he's doing it purely to troll?
>>98491646Temple Assassins have far superior augments and wargear than your average Astartes. But they're way harder to create and therefore aren't good at winning wars like marines are.
>>98491842Nobody spends 4.5k on models just to troll
>>98491173Yeah, it's just a fun, well-written trilogy that almost anyone can enjoy.
>>98491820>but GW doesn't allow loyalist chapters with traitor geneseed to be actual canonWhy do you lie
>>98491835leeman russ slobbers on dog dicks lol
>>98491808He's banned almost everywhere else so he literally has no choice but to fester here. No place with active moderation and a way to actually enforce the rules will tolerate this retard for more than a couple days
>>98491812>All but confirmed. They maintain a similar battle doctrine that favours close combat but is now also focused on pragmatic, siege, and attrition warfare tactics (their special rule is a near exact match for the Horus Heresy Iron Warrior's signature special rules). Their Ancient Greek theme also matches up with the Iron Warriors' Anatolian/Eastern Byzantine/Ottoman references, and their gene-seed is mentioned to have extremely high assimilation rates, just like the IVth Legion of old. They even have records of action dating back to M32. Horus Heresy Book 6 "Retribution" also alludes to the Iron Warriors being the progenitors of the Minotaurs, as there is described a special unit of Iron Warriors who use heavy hypnoindoctrination and specialised in Counter-Astartes tactics. Edwin Brown, a playtester for the Badab War books, has also stated that the Minotaurs use Iron Warriors gene-seed. He also implies that their Chapter Master is a former Iron Warrior who was expelled from the legion during the Great Crusade, before they turned traitor.
>>98491894Those are some tiny humans in the back. Like 4'8 tall. Squats, really.
>>98491878I'm telling the truth, you won't find anything that says the minotaurs are iron warriors other than the writer's headcanonyou won't find anything that says cawl used traitor geneseed for any of the ultima founding chaptersnothing that says the blood ravens are from the thousand sonsnothing that says the space sharks are night lordsit's all fan fiction at worst, and unsound theories that have never and will never be confirmed at best, and all that is not by accident but because gw has a hard line on the matter: loyalist chapters made of traitor geneseed are not allowed
>>98491893>a former Iron Warrior who was expelled from the legion during the Great Crusade, before they turned traitor.holy what a donnut iron OC
>>98491908>writer's headcanon>headcanonyou don't know what that means
>>98491893What are you quoting?
>>98491908carcharodons are world eaters not night lordsyou're a retard
>>98491922I thought they were meant to be the perfected version of raven guard?
>>98491748>and that far is giving a normal human a good fighting chance against an orkLmao no
>>98491913If the writer doesn't put it into the book, especially when the other people involved in the making of the book don't allow it, then it's not canon, it's his headcanon.
>>98491812Yes, they are made from Iron Wariors genestock. They get away with it because Minotaurs only answer to the High Lords and they are High Lords' personal army/chapter to do black ops style things with.
>>98491820>but GW doesn't allow loyalist chapters with traitor geneseed to be actual canonThis isn't a thing. You're just making up shit.
>>98491932nta but idk, most of the footage ive seen of Orks makes them look pretty fleshy and weak to basic fire and damage.
I normally play Army of Faith since I like Take&Hold the most, but Bringers of Flame sounds really good. All of your vehicles, walkers, and infantry can run every turn and still shoot. That's so good for repositioning Castigators, and for Immolators zooming across the field to shoot who needs to have cover removed. It just adds so much flexibility.And now that you can shoot pistols in combat (that's a new rule for me, I'm an old 4th/5th edition player) that 6" rule about +1 strength will always apply when you're in combat. Every squad leader has an inferno/plasma pistol.Plus, Bringers is Priority Assets, which is the most similar to Take&Hold. You are still essentially just capturing objectives, except you care more about the one central instead of taking lots all over the map, so it's the same "feel".I'm pretty sure I'm going to give Bringers a shot for a few games.
>>98491922Whatever, multiple fanfictions exist, including the retarded idea of chimeric geneseed, none of it is canon.And proficiency for chainaxes is not stored in the balls.
>>98491942If it wasn't a thing you wouldn't have to rely on fanfictions to support the idea that any chapter is made of traitor geneseed.
>>98491959if it was a thing you could post where they've stated it
>>98491908>it's this retard againIgnore him and move on. He always pretends to be retarded and then drags out the argument for the rest of the thread.
>>98488897Thanks Doc
>>98491908The death eagles are the EC's 34th company that stayed loyalThe silver skulls are IW dantioch's company that stayed loyalBoth of these are canon
>>98491947Sounds good to me. Not very many people here play the game and even fewer of those play sob so I don't have anything to actually add from experience or anything but that sounds good as far as I know. I'm just glad at least one person is talking about the actual game in this thread. People here go on and on about poopdickschizo every fucking day including today and if it's not that then it's just pointless bitching about old good new bad. It's so tiresome. Tell us how it goes
>>98491922>carcharodons are world eatersCongratulations you are the biggest tard in the thread
>>98491990No, those are not canon either, they're both just fan theories.
>>98492016sorry your tranny vampire faction doesn't matter :(
>>98491947Bringers is alright, but not a "holy shit look at this" either.Most enemies you fight have 12" or more of range, so even getting to use that +1 strength is far harder for you than for them. Marines' Firestorm Assault Force is the exact same as BoF, but it's +1 strength is 12", meaning it's just better in every way. Miracle Dice and Dominions squads running flamers/meltas don't make up for it.If you're playing against someone spamming flamers, you rarely get to use it because your units die before getting close enough to take advantage of it.I play a bit of Sisters, and have largely dropped BoF in favor of Hallowed Martyrs, if I even bring Sisters to games anymore because they just feel so terrible vs. what I usually play against (marines).
>>98491990i guess the best way to put it that yes there are fallen sourced chapters but due to propaganda (and gw-larp to upkeep the imperial propaganda) will never straight up admit to them and the ones from Heresy got rechristened as ultramarine successors (maybe sometimes raven guard to patch up their numbers)
>>98492031The fuck do carcharodons have to do with vampires. Take your meds.
>>98492052and you try to call others retardsadorable
>>98491922They have nothing to do with the world eaters.
>>98492063Literal schizo
>>98492094>my whole personality is my favourite animalchapters like this are the absolute worst
>>98491925they're the psycho raven guard corvus exiled when cleaning up the legion
>>98492088retard alert>>98492093But enough about you
Every time someone talks about the space sharks this dude appears and starts ranting nonsense
>>98492139ntab attributing all posts you don't like to a scapegoat isn't a healthy mental process
>>98491712>>98491843I knew their weapons were better, there was one who tried to headshot Horus but since they're supposed to blend into regular imperial guard regiments I had no idea they were enhanced. They're not even psykers like inquisitors tend to be. So they come off as unenhanced, but their reaction times should not be space marine level.Also at the end of the day they're human so they can't live as long as space marines. Honestly I don't understand their niche but I guess in this book they are trying to kill traitor space marines and not traitor planetary rulers. But then again you wouldn't deploy an adamus assassin against regular governors or other political elites right? Isn't that overkill?
Any tips for gluing the arms / gun / tail onto Necron Immortals? I hate that everything needs to line up perfectly or its all fucked. Which would you glue first? I have the right arms / gun etc. Its just a pain in the ass to glue them.
>>98492145Except he always says the same things>ntabSure
>>98492181And now you're attributing my posts to your scapegoat because you don't like itGenuine schizophrenic or just a shitposter? Either way you're not getting any more attention from me
Is there a snow leopard chapter
>>98492130Why do you think the space sharks are world eaters?
I am noticing a weird phenomenon where now if both me and my opponents armies are melee focused the guy who goes first usually wins. I think because the 2nd turn player also is trying to set up their staging it's more difficult because if they're too close then the next turn they get charged but if they stay back they start losing on VP
How come everyone other than dark angels and ultramarines basically went kind of extinct by 40k?CSM have more diversity, and you know diversity is a strength.
>>98492198>but if they stay back they start losing on VPThat part shouldn't really matter in 11th. You can score 0 in the first two turns and still max primary. Secondaries stay in your hand. You can be patient.
>>98492185ntab stop schizo
Why do people hate the space sharks?Don't they have a unique theme?
>>98492186White panthers close enough?
>>98492212whatever impression you got, it's wrong, all the chapters are around and deus ex machina'd out of any possible issue with their numbers and casualties
>>98491842he’s been doing it for 2 straight years, and frequently has literal meltdowns, and has made admissions (like him literally being retarded) where if you remind him of it he’ll shut up for an hour. that’s not to say he doesn’t deep down like the attention, but he still absolutely hates being mocked. he’s pretty much 1:1 with someone like cyraxx when it comes to acting retarded, being smug despite being retarded, and playing victim when bullied for being retarded.
>>98492249He 100% looks like that
>>98492231There are chapters with resident haters for some reason
>>98492247Those chapters are pathetic like the space sharks.
>>98491405Why do you schizo out about /v/ literally every thread/v/ doesn't not give a shit about the actual game
Was sanguinius the most homosexual of all the primarchs? I can't tell if he's fag-coded or just regal. Was he effeminate? Noble?
>>98492231Theming a chapter around an animal is not a good idea and is a slippery slope to terrible flanderisation.They also got terrible fans that flock to the meme of their chapter master being huge, or the origins of the chapter.Pic related is their chapter master, and you will find that the origins are also all wrong.
>>98492303fulgrim literally fucks men, so no sanguinius wasn't the most gay
>>98492303He's gay *and* European.
>>98492303Ugh, Leman Russ?
>>98490346this actually isnt politics at all. politics has to do with government. this is a company having a set of beliefs (that they think will print money). if a company making girl toys makes you seethe idk man thats pretty fucking sad
>>98489571Fuck you I'll do it myself.
>>98492327is it considered gay when its only being fucked by dogs? technically he doesn’t like sex with men in that case.
>>98492309>Theming a chapter around an animal is not a good idea and is a slippery slope to terrible flanderisation.Yeah, just look at Salamanders, Red Scorpions and Raven Guard.
Tau
>>98492309>look at this model that proves he's normal sized>ignore the text saying they literally had to custom make his terminator suit because the regular shit wouldn't fit him
>>98492303>Was sanguinius the most homosexual of all the primarchs?No, that is Russ or Fulgrim.
>>98492340>this actually isnt politics at all. politics has to do with governmentyes, it is
>>98492303lionel johnsonleman russfulgrim
>>98492354They're all bad except for the red scorpions, but only because the red scorpions stay out of the spotlight so their descent down the slippery slope is happening at a snail pace.
>>98492309>They also got terrible fans that flock to the meme of their chapter master being hugeModels aren't accurately sized. It's been stated numerous times that Tyberos is fuck huge specimen of a space marine, that is defining trait.The model itself is unironically bad because it fails to actually represent that. Good design and proportions but he should be 50% larger/taller.
>>98492353Those dogs are also men, so yes.
>one month since placing an order for a supremacy armour >WTG still haven't shipped ithave i been chinked?
>>98492377>They're all bad exceptWrong.
>>98492362The armour can be customised without the character being any bigger than the model.If you ask a redditor or someone brought up on loretubers how tall he's meant to be they would say some absurd shit like >he's primarch tier!>he's totally the biggest marine ever!>actually he's 3 times the height of a marine!
>>98492353there are no dogs on fenris.
>>98492372how is Lionel gay? Nigga is based af
>>98492395>I spend time thinking about what redditors think so that means this character isn't stated to tower over normal marines because I can flanderize it with redditor opinions!
>>98492402he's literally named after a gay poet who wrote a poem about being a closeted faggot called the dark angel
>>98492377Red Scorpions were never good.
>>98492385Send them a message because they may be casting it, otherwise just be patient.
>>98492405This character is not stated to be the height of a primarch, it's not stated to be 3 times the height of a marine, and it's not stated to be the biggest marine ever.It's just a marine, who's somewhat big, that's it, it doesn't warrant an oversized miniature, and the fact is that said "defining trait" didn't warrant his miniature being any taller than any other terminator sculpt of his time.This is not the miniature being wrong, it's your idea of what the fluff is saying being wrong.
>>98492439>I'm a retard who can only argue with points nobody was making: the post
>>98492447Tell me how tall you think he's meant to be then.What do you think him "towering" over marines actually mean?
>>98492368you are the one injecting politcs into this. a company making the products it wants is just business and art. you think there should be a political movement to stop this, you want to organize political power to make more man toys, because you love men. which is gay.
>>98492439>arguing that a model represents a character's canon height in the era where guardsmen were eye-to-eye with marines and terminatorsother guy's right, you might be retarded
>>98492461>a company making the products it wantsthis is not a company making the products it wants, it's a company changing what its products are to bend the knee to a political agenda of identity politics, they get money for doing this, and not from customers
After I get around to repairing my damaged desk I'll paint models again (day eight of my desk being gimpy btw)
>>98492467Why do you think tyberos should have been bigger instead of arguing the guardsmen should be smaller? Because that's what you and everyone else are implying, despite knowing that it's the guardsmen who were off scale with the other models.
Politics is when minorities. Not politics is when no minorities.
Thank god the Luna Wolves got renamed cause there’s no way I could deal with a second awoo faction
>>98492478Most recent stated height for him in The Outer Dark:>Even by the standards of the Adeptus Astartes the figure was a giant. Standing a head above the rest. He too was clad in Tactical Dreadnought Armor, and for a moment Otte's analytics glitched, informing him he was looking at a graven statue. A slight shift in the giant's stance removed that possibility - dust cascaded from the cliff-like plates of his immense suit and his huge, wickedly barbed gauntlets. Every inch of the warrior was clad and armed with the most hallowed and rare pieces of wargear Otte had ever set his optics upon. It made the Space Marines standing in the Giant's shadow seem like children.
>>98492497>Politics is when minorities. Not politics is when no minorities.and women
I am such a slow painter man. It is fun but I feel like I paint for three hours in sub assembly and get like maybe 2 models ALMOST done. Its probably better to take your time though right?
>>98492524Anon I spend 10-15 hours on a single basic infantry model, you're fine.
>>98492510They don’t tell you this in the horus heresy books, but back in rogue trader, the real reason the horus heresy started was over a meltie horus had because the other legions kept making fun of him for taking big wolf cocks.
>>98492524It's a hobby, not a race, so it's good that you're enjoying it.It's good to spend time on your hq's but if you need to smash out a bunch of basic infantry don't feel bad for taking short cuts or batch painting, you're still able to go back and do more detail.
>>98492528Me too…
>>98492524I'm happy when I maintain a pace of 1 marine every 3 days.
>>98492517If you think that's a statement about his height, then do you genuinely think that he should be LITERALLY as taller than marines as an adult man is to a child?Do you even consider the possibility that it is a hyperbolic description? and that what he SEEMED to the observer isn't the factual truth of the matter?Of course you don't, because just like the previously mentioned redditors you're blinded by mindless power wankings and shit like that and would never consider adjusting scales down, only ever up and up!
>>98492524what are you working on rn anon
>>98492554>STANDING A HEAD ABOVE THE REST>HURR THEY'RE BEING HYPERBOLICfucking kill yourself shitposter
I'm trying to learn again after quitting in 7e and everything is fucking weird.Anyone got a good starting off point or a tutorial that doesn't suck?
How do you use an aircraft unit?
>>98492563Standing a head above the rest is a common description for marines in terminator armour, that's not enough to warrant a miniature that's any different from other terminators, and the fact is that he didn't get a miniature that was taller than other terminators.
>Many Dark Eldar units are on saleThey're about to refresh them aren't they?
>>98492582they're all wearing terminator armor in that scene you fucking mongoloidit literally says he too was clad in itstop posting immediately, you were wrong, you can admit to being wrong instead of shitposting for the rest of this dead thread for once in your failure of a life
The dumb shit is that there was a marine captain present in the Badab War who was stated to be xbawkshueg compared to other marines, and it wasn't Tyberos. Nothing was said of Tyberos' height and his accompanying model was the same size as any random terminator HQ.
>>98492590GW doesn't do sales.
>>98492594>they're all wearing terminator armorand characters have often been slightly taller than their non-character versions, this is not meant to make tyberos any more special or any bigger than, say, logan or marneus or lysander
>>98492610Wyches, Kabalites, Hellions, Scourges, Venoms, Reavers, Succubuses, and Haemonculuses are all in the $40 price range.
>>98492413>pic unrelated
>>98492627You keep making points against arguments not being made because you're desperate to avoid saying you were wrong and you NEED to keep shitpostingNobody here claimed he was primarch sized but you in your strawmanningNobody here said he was wearing dreadnought armor but you in your strawmanningYou said there's nothing stating he was bigger since his model was the same size, I provided a direct quote stating he's a head taller than the average marine and you tried to call it hyperbole because you're THAT desperateStop posting.
>>98492594>HOW DARE YOU NOT INDULGE MY HECKIN CHUNGUS SUPERHERO FANART? YOU'RE A F-F-FAILURE Anon was right, space sharks have terrible fans.
98492639not even worth the (you)
>>98490364Because they are shallow.You like fiction because it expands your horizons.They like fiction because it serves them. It has to be about them.
>>98490376I almost bought this kit but the amount of bare heads kills me
>>98492633>Nobody here said he was wearing dreadnought armor but you in your strawmanningNobody said that, period. Quote me on that, go on.>You said there's nothing stating he was biggerI didn't say that either, I said he's a marine who's somewhat big, but that never warranted a particularly larger model.Turns out that all of this >You keep making points against arguments not being made because you're desperate to avoid saying you were wrong and you NEED to keep shitpostingwas just you projecting your own self
>>98492654>p-projectionthe last limpdicked cry of a shitposter out of arguments to jump tono more (you)syou were BTFO, you will cry about it for the rest of the thread, and the next time somebody else calls you out for something blatantly false you post you will accuse them of being me because you being proven wrong publicly has done damage to your weak little shitposter psyche
Imagine being on a hive world of twenty billion souls and Khorne is just like: "kill ten million people and you'll be a demon prince" so you turn off a water purifier and kill a hundred million but Nurgle gets your soul instead.
>>98492633
>>98489846>>98489981why are some modelposters like this, you know, faggots?
>>98492697people like feeling superior to others even over inane bullshit like plastic toy soldier painting
>>98492662>no more (you)snotice how you didn't quote me where I allegedly said shit about the dreadnought armor, notice how you didn't quote me where I allegedly said there was no statement about his height, notice how you never answered any of the questions I asked you about what you think his height should be, notice how on being called out, instead of proving anything wrong you instead double down on projections.Because you were found out red-handed doing what you were accusing someone else of doing, and having no arguments in support of the space cuck being as big as retards meme him.You know you can't argue, so you cower like a faggot.
>>98492628Because they're older kits released when those prices were standard, it's not a sale.
>>98491322Now post the lolis from this image, I wish to engage in carnal delusion about T'au women
>>98492727I think tesseract glow is a bad paint.
>>98492711NTAReading through your circlejerk with that guy you started your posts by going "this is what redditors think" here >>98492395 then continued saying so even when he said otherwise, so you can't really pretend you weren't trying to shitpost
>>98489535i don't even play csm i just think it's neat. Kinda wanna use different contrasts/washes on the silver parts to indicate that it's been refurbished multiple times and was occupied by many differently aligned daemons
It's been over two years since the last time a subfaction of Chaos Space Marines got a new codex. I say it's time for another subfaction of Chaos Space Marines to get a new codex.
>you see, we included directions in the Hardcover dossier (which we charged you extra for) along with the 10x beast boys (which you didn't want) along with the snaggas on squigs (which could have just been their own kill team) along with an ad for more beast snaggas (they literally have profiles for the other beast snagga units and tell you to buy them to 'up the challenge') all of which factored into the box's cost>why are you mad>you can just MAKE your own terrainSohere's the thingThe hardcover book with extra 'diy' instructions likely added 20 bucks to the cost of this boxalong with, you know, the dumb snaggasBut the thing is, lads, all the plasticard I can find anyway costs about 20 bucks with shipping to me where I live. All the dumb places near me that might be hobby shops with lasticard are unclear on their websites so unclear if they have it.So this is actually not a 'fun hobbying time' it's 'me trying to figure out how to fucking get this material to actually make these things' because I don't own a 3d printer (whci his another thing entirely) to print out the reddit STL of these.And it annoys me because I KNOW from the pictures that they printed out their own prototype of the terrain for the exodites for their in studio models, but cut the fucking terrain for some damn reason probably to shill more fucking snaggas.I hate snaggas even more now.
>>98492668But this was all according to Tzeench’s keikakku?
>>98492746Your thoughts are wrong.
>>98492771Many are saying this.
HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS FUCKING HUGE
>>98492752And? that's true, that's what redditors think about the character, that's what spawned the fanarts that inflated his size beyond what's reasonable and keep leading to a retarded perception of the character.When anon posted the excerpt from the outer dark, he didn't stop at "he was a head taller", he posted up until the part where the book says he made the other marines seem like children, because that's what he wanted to post, because that's what the retarded redditors argue should be taken literally when defending the inflated fanarts.It's not a shitpost, I'm just tired of this power scaling faggotry, tyberos isn't a super special gigantic dude, and anon, and other anons as well for that matter, completely deflected the question about their personal beliefs regarding the size he should actually have, because they know they would want him to make unreasonably big, beyond what the text says, because you are all the same stripe of faggots, but admitting that is losing your bad faith argument.
>>98492775You don't need to own a 3d printer to have someone with a printer make them for you for a few bucks
>>98492813holy shit nobody cares about some glup shitos height, shut the fuck up
>>98492822meant for >>98492662
Tyberos will get even bigger when he crosses the rubicon. Probably 12-15ft if I had to guess
>>98492813>And? And you're arguing against a point nobody made>he posted up until the part where the book says he made the other marines seem like children, because that's what he wanted to postor because it's the full excerpt describing him as larger than the average marine?> tyberos isn't a super special gigantic dude, and anon, and other anons as well for that matter, completely deflected the question about their personal beliefs regarding the size he should actually haveHe never stated that, in fact he literally spoke out against the characterizations of him being into a giant marine here >>98492405 and here >>98492447 But you were shadowboxing to keep funposting, just be honestLook at your post here >>98492827 you're trying to goad him into posting again so you can keep circlejerking with him more
Oh its the lorefags arguing again
>>98492834Anon, you KNOW he's shitposting, you're saying it repeatedly in your own postsStop giving him the attention he wants if you want him to stop posting
>>98492841it's ALWAYS lorefags shitting up the thread
My dude? He’s bascially an epic swordsman that’s super brutal and ruthless… he could kill like 3 or 4 custodies at the same time…
>>98492834>or because it's the full excerpt describing him as larger than the average marine?The full excerpt for that ends at "he's a head taller", you don't get to pretend anon posted way more than that for no reason.>he literally spoke out against And then, let me repeat that since you're apparently too dumb to read a post, he avoided the question to be clear about the position he would actually want to defend >>98492458 because it was a bad faith argument all along.>>98492834As you are doing yourself.You avoid taking a stance because you know the stance you want to have is unreasonable, so your only stance is not in defense of anything, but only in offense towards people arguing against the stance you would, hypothetically, defend, if you weren't a hypocrite.>Look at your post here >>98492827 That's not me.
>>98492881ntayou're wronghope this helps!
>>98492841People who just repeat what Majorkill says are not lorefags, they're tertiaries.
>>98492881ntab shut the fuck up, you autistic sperg
>>98492887and how the fuck would you know someone is parroting majorkill unless you watch him as well
>>98492871
>>98492886It doesn't, you also avoided the open question, so you're as dishonest and hypocritical as anon.
>>98489535Cleaning up some mould lines and seam lines on orks before having a paint sesh with some friends tomorrow
Which brand's color do (you) prefer for an "olive drab" tone for terrain or models? What about a more general "grass green" like for basing?
>>98490296Ive been in the hobby going on 30 years. If i was you i would read the first 3 books and stop there. They are an enjoyable read and a continous story. After that it no longer follows the same characters and each book is treated as like an individual thing. There are some other random books that are decent, i remember enjoying thousand sons and fulgrim but it mostly just devolves into slop.
>>98492889meant for >>98492834
>>98492906meant for >>98492827
we should get a corsair heavy weapons team that leta you take a bunch of dark lances and bright lances
>>98492887same difference
>>98492919don't elves have enough bright lances
>>98492919Many (are not) saying this.
>>98492590I think the more telling sign is that kabalites and hand of the archon are sold out in every region including the UK, which are rumored to be one of the kits being replaced
>>98492899LE LE ECKS DEE XDXD :DD XD DO YOU LIKE ORKS ANON? XDXD
>>98492919They have the same exact weapon profile, just take normal heavy weapon platforms, and then convert a few to have some spare dark lances and bright lances instead of a D cannon.
>>98489535last repost of these lads for now
Is it just one dude that freaks out at any hint of a poster being a ritual poster?
>>98492956yes
>>98492941NTA, stop being hysterical
>>98492969HOW CAN I WHEN ORKS ARE MENTIONED :DD XDXD ECKS DEE?
>>98492956If you see someone freaking out at a specific ritualposter instead of all ritual posters, then chances are that the one freaking out is one of the other ritual posters.
>>98492956yes it's all one person, it is simply not possible for multiple people to hate worthless ritual shitposts
>>98492901I'm using AK US Dark Green for olive but the coverage kind of sucks like a lot of AK paints. Needs 2-3 coats.
>>98492987>>98492988you schzoids can't even agree on a narrative
>>98492988I imagine there's plenty of people who don't like those posts, but don't feel the need to throw an ongoing baby tantrum over them either.
>>98492991FairI've mostly used Vallejo for it and found it to be "okay" IME, didn't know if any other brands were better/worse and figured an anon would have something on that topic.Thanks
>>98492956its all ratfag and his multiple personalities, he doesnt like other ritual posters
>>98492994Why should we agree?
>>98492994the real schizo is you, ratfag
>>98493014>sees ratfag everywhere he looksget back on those meds ASAP
>>98493006army painter has better opacity at a cost of saturation, but I didn't like the look of their fanatics olive/drabs. maybe there's some in their historicals line.
>>98492994>schzoids...that doesn't mean the same thing as schizo
>>98492956After the mutant slowed down, the fags that kept replying to him were left without a lolcow to milk
>>98492940>replacing -kits that already got refreshed in 2023->not replacing -kits that were totally squatted-Thanks GW i love it
are we just ignoring this?
>>98493168
>>98493168>knight shityes
>>98493168Looks like a sprue to me, chief.
>>98493168>>984931752028 is just diabolical.
>>98493168Whoa
>>98493075Also jannies will absolutely throw a temp ban at you for replying to the guy now, so I assume there's just a good chunk of people caught in the crossfire every time that retard starts posting here again.
>>98493183Wait, why would it say Copyright 2028 if they're already producing it now? Don't they file copyright for stuff long before they start selling it? I remember some of those Fuegan/Malys model sprue leaks showed that they had been sitting on those models since like 2023 because of the copyright or something.
I glued a magnet on the wrong way around again
>>98492956fuck ritual posters and fuck you
>>98493222KWAB
>wont get to paint at work today
>>98493175Both this and the other knight now have distinctly mechanicus loadouts, I hope they get better integrated into their codex.
NEW BREAD WHEN
Do you guys prime your barbed wire and paint over it, or just slap it on after everything's painted?
>>98493311TQ?
>>98493351What was the worst smell you smelt at the lgs?
>>98493370right, I’ll bake whenever image limit is hit or page 8 comes :D
>>98493223FUCK YOU CHUDHAHAHAHA
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>>98492497lmao
