Two hours until game day.

What is everyone planning to do with their board games after death? I've always heard that family members don't want 95% of the stuff in your home (although everything in my home is high quality, so they'd be retarded to not replace all their crap with my s-tier stuff), and I could definitely see that happening with boardgames. Would you donate them? Try to sell them beforehand to increase liquid assets just a little bit? 3d print an extra large casket that can hold you and your favorite games?

>>98516259
Question addressed to the demented light weight purist boomers in /bgg/, presumably?

It's been a while since I read some of their hot takes, hope nothing bad happened.

>>98515637
TQs are way too long anon
>What is the most fun part in the last game you played?
The moment in agricola where you get some breathing room and your engine starts to work. Alternatively, getting a bread engine running early on and shitting out food like no tomorrow in agricola
>What do you find most statisfying in a game?
Fitting in the last piece of a puzzle. I do like dual/triple layered boards that let me make something pleasing to look at. For the more interactive side, planning a turn ahead, calculating your opponents likely choices, then seeing it play out exactly as you simulated.
>Bonus question: what about boardgames annoys you the most?
When games feel like they take too long for their weight. It's not the worst, but it makes some games I actually love very hard to get to the table. Also boxes that are unnecessarily large which is like 80% pf them

>>98516259
Ideally, my kids will also love boardgames and take what they want from the collection and sell the rest for a fair price
But my collection is softcapped at 150 or so, I don't think it'll be the biggest hassle to get rid of it otherwise

>>98516259
if my kids don't like it hopefully the local public libraries will. if those will still exist in the coming 50~ years.

>>98516259
Play them until some kind of world ending event then use them as kindling

>>98516511
If there was no electricity in the world, a board game collection would be very valuable.

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What's with white guys on bgg stealth bragging about their Asian imports?

>>98516567
The early aughts were a different time

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>>98516533
Only if survival wasn't an issue.
There's plenty of situations where "extra firewood" is worth way more than entertainment.
Namely:
>Any situation where you're stuck in the heart of a city in winter (or just in a cold location) and have no reliable access to wood (the nearest park is headed off by a seemingly-endless parade of the undead marching off towards that one MF who has been killdozing zombies for days now making a massive racket)
But in general, this is the correct answer for more plausible apocalypses.
Also the joys of getting to lootrun everyone's house and snag all the cool board games that normal looters would ignore.

>>98516567
They worship women and think one approving of them is them finally "making it". Not a misogynist, btw

I require more /bgg/ poster game reviews

>>98516650
Which would you like?
>Killer Bunnies (almost all of them)
>Eternal Decks
>Fromage
>The Maze of the Minotaur (2001)
>Moon Colony Bloodbath
>Epic Spell Wars (of the Battle Wizards: Duel at Mt. Skullzfyre)
>Compile (Main 1 & 2)
>Flamecraft: Duals

>>98516665
>The Maze of the Minotaur (2001)

>>98516650
Of a specific game or just anything?
Used to post a review every other week or so, but at this point in life I consider myself lucky to post a quick session report every other week

>>98516650
I can review any game, tell me what you want

>>98516794
RoboDerby: Express

>>98516855
Looks like homebrew robo rally
I'm not a big fan of robo rally and give it a 5/10
This looks a little worse, so maybe 4/10
I'd say skip it

>>98516794
Both of these >>98515005
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>>98516907
>Space dealer
I tend to like any game where components physically go on a ship and get transported
But it also has sand timers, which bring it down
6/10
>Time n space
What is it with you and space games with sand timers? Are you trolling me?
5.5/10

>>98516720
A fairly simple title, you roll 2 dice, one for movement and one for wall spins. You and up to 3 other players are breaching the maze to claim the treasure. You move, then you move ANY WALL in the entire field with certain restrictions, namely: Walls are physically attached to the board, so they have to be spun in place and cannot be rotated if another wall is blocking them in. After everyone else has gone, the Minotaur gets a turn, moving towards the closest player, then turning walls to shorten the path to said nearest player.
Whomever is the first to reach the middle and then reach a corner wins.
Overall, 6/10, fun game for family/multi-age groups, helps kids with spatial reasoning too, which is nice. Lacks staying power in family settings, but I still like it once in a while.
>You can't turn that wall because it's locked in place by the 2 next to it

>>98516794
The my little pony themed re-implementation of Lanterns: The Harvest Festival.

>>98516794
Inka

>>98516665
Eternal Decks. How's the staying power?

>>98516793
Yeah, I like reading random reviews when people try something new

>>98516794
Amun-Re

>>98517023
Was about 50/50 on this being real
But I guess never underestimate the power of slop, especially when it's aimed at bronies wallets
I give it a na/10, not worth reviewing

>>98517053
Seems like a more indepth version of the labyrinth mechanic, which I liked a lot as a kid. Going to go 7/10 here, as long as you have the right audience for it.

>>98517117
Amun-re is a game I haven't played before, mainly because everyone says it's best at 5, and I already have Ra (along with several other auction games). So while it's not of interest to me, the mechanics do look compelling, and I'll say 7.5/10

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Turns out, it ain't just for the kids!
Ice Cool was a smash hit at game night.
We also played Tyrants of Underdark, which was fun. Hooky, which was serviceable but really not my type of game, and capped it with Liars Dice.

>>98517187
>Ice Cool
*ICECOOL

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>>98517195
Well consider me SCHOOLED

>>98516794
Aton
Egizia
Imhotep
Tzolk'in

>>98516259
I'd encourage them to take what they want while im alive and donate the rest.

>What is the most fun part in the last game you played?
Agent Avenue has really fun conditioning where you can put something impossibly bad face-up and get your opponent to fear that the face-down is somehow worse.
>What do you find most statisfying in a game?
I love when I can find synergy through doubling something. Like if I get 1 gold per turn due to X card effect, and love making a goal of stacking it as high as the game will let me with repeated "get 1 gold" effects.
>Bonus question: what about boardgames annoys you the most?
Kickstarter for non-indies. i'd rather medium or larger publishers just print the game and then I can just buy the game when it's ready.

>>98517223
>Aton
Looks good...shame about the artwork, which is the epitome of boring German artwork of yesteryear. 7/10

>Egizia
Worker placement system seems okay, but I dunno, everything else looks bland and soulless. Ugly art, at least for the latest kickstarter printing
5.5/10

>Imhotep
Are you Egyptian?? This is a lot. As i said earlier, put goods on a physical ship and I'm happy, 7/10

>Tzolk'in
Wish it did something other than the tracks, but gears remain a novel idea all these years later, and are actually integral to bookkeeping/gameplay, so I'll say 7.5/10

>>98517117
>Eternal Decks
Reading heavy at first, cause there's a fair bit of jank to figure out, but the core is very satisfying:
>Cooperatively drafting decks, trying to tell people "i fucking need this" without saying it, and then slowly unraveling the board to fight for your win condition
>Completing a "stage" is often 3+ tries, but reset is fast enough to not be a big issue
Overall, 8/10, fantastic theming, great game.
>staying power
A little low, at least nobody I know wants to play again when PVP stuff is more their speed.

>>98516794
String Railway

>>98516794
Dominion?

>>98517477
I swear to god if the review turns out to be
>bad because big money
I'm gonna find the guy and end him.

>>98516794
Pax Porfiriana
Trick Shot
Murray the asshole frog
Cat in the box
The Lord of the Rings: the Card game
Captains Chair

>>98517428
Somehow I just knew the designer would have a Japanese name. I guess being able to play the game with floss is neat and kind of novel, and the whole idea is probably built around the catchy name, but I can't imagine playing something like this more than once, especially if it's as fiddly as it looks. 3/10

>>98517477
Base game gets old fast, needs expansions to stay alive. The most important part of the game is just looking at the cards and figuring out how you're going to transition into your points, everything else is going through the motions to find out who had the better plan. There's some adaptation, but not much. Still a good design, just not one I'm going to want to play, especially non-digitally. 6/10

>>98516794
Onitama
Onirim

>>98517542
>Pax Porfiriana
One of the more based pax games, 8/10

>Trick Shot
Played once, moves at the speed of a glacier, and maybe less interesting. 3/10.

>Murray the asshole frog
Looks dumb, 3/10

>Cat in the box
Didn't all these sexual innuendo games die off like 10 years ago? 0.69/10

>The Lord of the Rings: the Card game
Can you narrow it down? I feel like 8 different games, all released in the last 14 years, have this exact name. Unknown/10.

>Captains Chair
Any board/card game that's best at 1 isn't really a game. Na/10.

>>98517739
>Any board/card game that's best at 1 isn't really a game.
There goes every (non-dexterity?) co-op with open information

>>98517667
>Onitama
Pretty good design, but I feel like it's overrated in execution. Trying to calculate moves into the future is possible, but slow, due to the shifting abilities. Prefer abstracts where I can instantly think past the rules and on my opponent. 6/10

>>98517778
A lot of them, yeah, but not all. Lots of co-op games have shared incentives, but different win conditions

>>98516794
Ponte del Diavolo
Through the Desert
Trias
The Speicherstadt
Medici

>>98517813
>Ponte del Diavolo
These type of abstracts are really impossible to judge until you play against high level players. There are no high level players for this game. 5/10

>Through the Desert
It's a classic, but I find it somewhat less engaging than other knizia tile layers. 7.5/10

>Trias
Played this a few years ago at a friends lake house, good game for when it's raining outside. 6.5/10

>The Speicherstadt
I remember demoing this at Essen. The teacher had big boobs. That's all I remember. 8/10

>Medici
I enjoy the game, but games best at 5 and 6 aren't suited for my group. Would play again if offered, though. 7/10.

Thoughts on SUSD?

>>98516794
Medici Traders

>>98516259
I'll be dead so I don't care

>>98518131
Back in the day? 10/10
Now it's mid at best, a lot of the games they cover are sponsored, and the skits just aren't as good
That's still a dramatic improvement from when every video seemed the push some trans agenda

>>98518164
Unreleased/10

>>98518131
I don't think they really like reviewing games that much anymore and it shows

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>>98517739
>isn't really a game.
That thought experiment was LAST thread, anon!

>>98516794
Lifeboats: Plank of Carneades

>>98516794
Gay sex: the auction game

>>98516794
Saboteur 2

>>98516259
They can burn it for all I care. My friends are more than welcome to pillage whatever they wanted. The only game I'd want to make it to someone who would appreciate it, is my fully painted collection of Cthulhu Wars.

I asked this question a few bgg's ago, but is Black Rose War any good? One anon said he had Rebirth and was good, but over produced and not worth the cost. They have the first version of the game for $45. Is Rebirth better or more worth the cost?

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>>98516259
I'm kind of a hoarder already and that shit is only getting worse, so I might die under a shifting pile of my boardgames and no one find the body. On the plus side I had lots of baggies for Dune Imperium Uprising after getting ass raped without protection by the guy doubling with sandworms.

>>98516794
Across the United States

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>>98517187
>buy icecool for neighbor for christmas 4 years ago
>they never invite me to play

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>>98517569
>figuring out how you're going to transition into your points, everything else is going through the motions to find out who had the better plan.
>>98517524
>bad because big money

>>98517667
>>98517785
wrong. you're stupid if you can't see that 4/5 games you can force a win or 1/5 there is no possible way to win you're a fucking retard. there are only 5 moves god dammit.

>>98517667
>Onirim
solo "SET" for retards.

there are free apps for both, or used to be.

>>98517739
>Any board/card game that's best at 1 isn't really a game.
you're shitting on Spirit Island now?

>>98516794
Metal Gear Solid: The Board Game

Played Fromage, kinda garbage bullshit. The quadrants are uneven and the player boards are even worse. The deliveries are either just shitting bonus points or fuck you rng. The mechanic of point and spin until shit faces you is one of the best rondelle implementations I've seen (although the center axel was missing) but the game itself is pretty ass.

>>98519104
>The quadrants are uneven
Isn't that the point? You gotta choose to chase down the value in 1 category, often at the detriment of another.
>the player boards are even worse
That one is a pretty wild fucking take and would actually like to hear a rant post about it.
I do appreciate that you can acknowledge something good about it despite hating the game.

>>98519151
the guy who got an animal in building 1 put out all the animals (14 IIRC) and I struggled to get 5.

just by first building I would rate order cards board the highest as having whatever you need is just a bonus. Second animals as you can rush the secondary cheese. Fruit 3rd due to the fact it's a multiplier. Buildings worst as there is a lot for little return and the bonus is fruit vps which by the end I had two fruit for 1 point and it would have taken 5 building to unlock.

I didn't take pictures or analyze beyond that but that's what my basis is. If you can explain how the building board is as good as the recipe board please do, I think I could even live with getting the fruit board if the rest of the rng supported it, but damn I can't see the building board being equivalent to even that.

>>98517187
Ok but why do you store all your games in the kitchen counter?

>>98518860
I haven't played black rose, but I always find the constant tension in Rebirth quite good and fun

>>98519547
Not my house.
The host has no dedicated bg shelf.
There's even more stuff in the cabinets underneath!

>>98519011
Kek nice try, blue

>>98519468
Ye, 14 animals for max Cheese payout.
Funny enough, the first ever game I played of Fromage was with the Tool Shed board.
I came in 2nd because.. it isn't good. It has leverage options, but can rapidly become sunk cost.
Buildings are something you kinda just want to get early on and then forget about. Tool Shed is a net 0 investment 1st turn you get it (negative if you do nothing with it) and is a slow gain (like all the others), but with the caveat that a passive income of buildings isn't super useful. You're already spending 1 building to unlock it, so after that, it's only 10 buildings to max out, which is a max of 10 turns if you never snag any buildings from center and then it's just sitting there dead on your board providing no value beyond that.
That being said, it can compete by doing big swings on Festival
>Pray you don't get the only bad start, fruit quadrant (you get 0 buildings and will be doing only the basics for 3 turns)
>Grab cows, (1, 3, or more)
>Build Tool Shed, immediately recoup building with a worker
>Build Market next turn (or whenever)
>Festival rolls around
>Cheese, +Cow, Cow Cheese, +Cow, if you have a lot of Cows, Cow Cheese again, suddenly a whole chunk of the Festival is yours
That being said, building draft > default boards (Tool Shed is the weakest, but not explicitly bad)

>>98516794
The Lord of the Rings: Fate of the Fellowship

>>98517739
>Any board/card game that's best at 1 isn't really a game. Na/10.
>weeps in Mage Knight

>>98515637
>most fun part
Cuba Libre. Getting to do a free assault in an EC after Garrisoning is fun as Government, when it comes up. Taking an event card is fun.

>most satisfying
winning when I'm playing against people who are much more experienced at the game than I am is fun. Thinking of a cool tactic is fun.

>annoys me the most
myself

Kinoko Kombat rules are up, finally.

>>98520134
The biggest difference seems to be that you're dealt an extra card in setup and choose a hand card while sorting your row, instead of being dealt a random hand card after sorting your row.
I feel like that would reduce the variance too much but maybe the extra control over what your row will end up looking like would keep the game from getting same-y.

Some other differences I see are:
2s, 4s, and 6s have stars instead of 3s and 6s.
Putting the pot out early is 3 stars instead of 2.
2nd place in a 3p game with a large straight or a three-of-a-kind is 2vp instead of 1.
A three-of-a-kind is better than a mini-straight.
Two-pair is equal to a mini-straight instead of just being a pair with 3 dead cards.

>>98520192
>Two-pair is equal to a mini-straight
*in ranking and in scoring

>>98516794
Fountains

>>98516794
Mushroom Sort

>>98516794
>Root
>Hansa Teutonica
>Spirit Island
>Ra
>John Company
>Caylus
>Ark nova
>Brass B vs L
>Modern art
>Arcs
>Brian Boru

>>98516794
Villa Paletti

>>98516794
Industrial Waste

>>98519028
I swear, these Japanese trainnes...just play chicago express or Irish gauge. 5/10

>>98518500
Literally aids, I guess 10/10 for bug chasers

>>98518417
Looks a little light, but does have things on boats. Probably great if you're a kid, or you have kids and just want them to let you sleep on the couch because you're too exhausted from writing annual reviews as middle management . 6.5/10

>>98519057
Been a while since I played it, but if you look 2 or 3 moves ahead, doesn't it depend on what card your opponent plays and puts back into the pool for you to take? It's fuzzy in that sense, belt it leads to a lack of precise sequences, meaning the evaluation is very generalized and potentially slow.

Got a board game related query for you guys:

Is there a decent no strings Catan app for tablet that doesn't handle like a cow in roller skates?

Talking no sign ups, ads, registration. I'd just like to be able to play against robot opponents I could choose the number and skill of.

Don't need or want the expansions or anything. Just an emulator or something. Might be being stuck in the hospital for awhile and am looking for shit to do.

>>98516259
Funeral pyres are legal where I'm at. That's my plan. Everyone gets some shit I have willed to go to them, the rest goes with me. I'll haunt a fucker who steals my treasures. Watch me.

>>98520723
>I'd just like to be able to play against robot opponents
I don't want to be cruel but why, of the tens of thousands of games in existence, would you pick one where the central element is trading to play against bots?

Anyway just get bga for a much wider selection

>>98515637
>What is the most fun part in the last game you played?
Played Quacks last night and got a yellow pice (set 1) from the bag and got to remove the white 3, that was pretty fun. But overall Quacks is always a good time form my experience.

>>98520449
nta but
>Root
Based is kind of ass, there are multiple things that should be at least house ruled (Vagabound infamy and Favor cards) imo there. But overall a fun and varied (with some expectations) asymmetric war/point racer. Not that hard lean or teach as it’s bgg weight would indicate, the difficult parts is to get a good grasp on what you can expect a faction to do on the board the next next turn how how close to victory they are. The only faction I actively avoid having in the draft is vagabond because there is no non-policing incentive to attack him and he has lots of stupid mecanic where many of them break the game in one way or another.

I get why some people don’t like Root, but I’ve found it fun the nearly 30 plays I’ve had of it (most this year), I’ve only have Undergrounds and Marauders (Riverfolk is sold out in my country, getting Homeland when it releases to retailers later this month), landmarks and most of the hirelings packs. I’ve had a group chat with 7 regulars and I’ve been able to host 1-2 Roots games where we are 3-5 players most Sundays in the last few months and it’s been really fun. It gets more interesting when you and the other players have a decent grasp of how the different factions work and play. I wonder what I'm thinking when I have <50 plays as I’ve seen some anon in here say that’s when you reach stale/jaded terrory.

>Spirit Island
I'll do a little review for that later as that is another game played a fair bunch the last few months.

>>98520838
No one ever trades in live games that I've ever witnessed. Heard a lot of people try to offer. That's what the ports are for.

>>98520930
I have no experience in that regard. I do play lot on bga but negotiation/social deduction games seen completely out of place in a digital world. I already found TI on tts with mics to be a harrowing experience.
Point being, if you plan on being autistic, just go full autism and get a solo game or a sp video game. Digital catan against bot seems like the worst possible version of both, but I can't stop you

>>98520862
I played Root once and did not care for it. The presentation was nice but the gameplay did not seem that interesting. I dislike too much asymmetry between the factions. For example birds vs vagabond vs otters seem like so different in how they play and how they interact in the game. Granted I only played once (and twice on the app). The die rolling combat and point system also didn't help.

>>98520723
>Catan
might as well play monopoly or uno.

>>98520705
your opponent has two choices and has to play one. it can devolve into "until he plays B" and you're also choosing which move to give him (ergo you don't give him B if that's the key to him winning). It's more of dumping moves to your opponent that don't help them waiting for the card that you can use to win. It's hard to explain but I find it more boring than chess.

if you find someone who is on the same level, just playing on the surface casually, I can see where it would be fun whacha karate sim but I just can't enjoy it.

>>98521277
>I dislike too much asymmetry between the factions
That's fair. It's one of the main selling points of the game and understandably not something that is going to appeal to everyone.

>birds vs vagabond vs otters
Only one militant factions sounds horrible. People in my group usually likes to play the more militant factions so we have never had a game that with less then two of them. I once had a game with only militant factions (cats, moles, rats & badgers), it was very claustrophobic but surprisal fun and even game still.
I'll repeat again that one of the reasons I dislike vagabond is because he lacks meaningful interaction with many factions in most games I've played with him. Looking forward to getting my hands one Knaves of the Deepwood (replacement faction for vagabond in the new expiations)

> twice on the app
Root is one of the games I could the least image myself playing digitally. For me (and most of my group) a huge part of the game is the table talk and politics.

>The die rolling combat and point system also didn't help
I just sees that as the default of most games that's is kind of similar to Root , it's nothing amazing but gets the job done.

>>98520449
>Root
The idea of woodland creatures fighting each other is great, but it's not something I can play with a lot of war gamers due to theme, and it's definitely not something I can play with my mom due to complexity, so very group dependent, but the groups that like it seem to really like it. Gameplay wise, I think I'd rather just fire up a 20 year old rts and play that. 7/10

>>Hansa Teutonica
Great game, sub par theme. Was hoping for the gangster reprint to happen, oh well. Even the most minor move in this game sends out ripples across the board. Maybe the most interactive euro I own, 9/10.

>>Spirit Island
Good theme, but I think a bit to heavy for co-op slop gameplay. 6/10.

>>Ra
Best pure auction game made. 10/10

>>John Company
Kind of a weird game, wasn't expecting the almost roleplaying aspect and dice rolling. Not sure I'll play it again, but as a one off experience it was alright. 7/10

>>Caylus
Back in the day I'm sure this was great, but unlike many other older games we still talk about, I don't think this has aged as well. 6.5/10

>>Ark nova
Pretty sure a LLM designed this game through a series of prompts. 5/10

>>Brass B vs L
Both are great, excellent decision making to rules ratio. B is a 9, L is a 9.5

>>Modern art
Love the multiple types of auctions, although I'm not sure I've ever been in a game where I feel like everyone played well. Pretty opaque strategy. 8.5/10

>>Arcs
I dunno, man. Trick taking isn't my thing, but this spin on it seems good, although how it folds into the game strategy feels a little disconnected. Need to play it more to decide if it's a 5/10 or 8/10.

>>Brian Boru
Hate the name and the box art. There may be a decent game there if you can get past those things, but I can't. Na/10

>>98521488
>not something I can play with my mom due to complexity,
Box says 14+

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>>98516794
Pax Transhumanity

>>98521519
Yeah, a 14m will understand root way better than a 70f
I said 7, but it's more of a split rating situation. For me it's more like a 6, but I totally get the groups that love it. I'd much rather fire up supreme commander at a lan party, though.

>>98521530
>Pax Transhumanity
Played this last Christmas with my uncle. He's a trains man, drives them for a living. Sometimes he get death threats from peta for cow strikes, but never rape. He just has to stay strong as trains is a hard job. After the game, he said it was good, but told me that learning pax renaissance was hard enough and can't keep doing this shit. 6.5/10

>>98520192
They also removed the pig.

>>98516794
Ape Town

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Lads, I am looking for something. To my great suprise I have begun to more and more appreciate short (<90 min) games that give me a very similar experience as way bigger, longer games. Something like
>White castle
>Fromage
>Pax Ren
>Mille Fiori
>Also classics like Ra, T&E or RftG

>Any recs?

Pic unrelated, the absolute abomination that was a friends farm

>>98524150
Foxglove Farm

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Wow, already my bestie and I have reached 22 of the 32 games to play for our Summer of Summoner Wars and the points are tied at 11 wins apiece!
Unfortunately for me, his Phoenix Elves, Deepwood Groaks, Vanguard, Fungal Dwarves, and Wayfarers are open options and terrifying.
But Ive got Storm Goblins, Swamp Orcs, and Drakesun Rebellion up my sleeve.

>>98521562
My cousin is a trains person as well, tell him to keep his chin up

>>98524150
Rumble Nation is bite sized El Grande, but it's ways shorter than 90min

>>98524439
Appreciate the report even if I didn't like SW that much

>>98524720
I've heard a lot good things about it but going through the rules it seemed a bit chaotic. Maybe I should give it another look, but I do vaguely remember it being pretty hard to find

>>98524150
They took too much out when they paired Caverna down to Agricola.

El Paso is Great Western Trail but ass. It's perfect for what you want.

>>98525841
>They took too much out when they paired Caverna down to Agricola.
I'm having trouble understanding what this is supposed to mean

>>98525936
Agricola is obviously Caverna lite you dumb fuck, but when they took out all the redundant resources, rubies, extra rooms and shit they didn't leave enough so that you didn't starve every turn. Are you seriously too stupid to understand that?

>>98524300
Wow the gulag will really call anything a re-implementation https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3720810/whats-the-difference-from-minecart-town

>>98526012
Agricola was released in 2008.
Caverna was released in 2013.
'cola was first, 'verna expanded on it. Get it right, numbskull, or I'll steal all your sheep and rubies.

>>98526012
Just wanted to make sure if it was actually bait this weak and not something I missed.

>>98526012
ESL-kun, learn how to English.
When something is given the -lite suffixe, it means it is the descendant, not ancestor.
So English speakers rightfully read your post as claiming Agricola copied Caverna but shaved off the edges, when you mean the opposite.
That or you are an actual retard.

How much do you guys spend on games per year? Count everything...expansions, sleeves, inserts (or filament to print them), accessories and upgrades, etc. I have a pretty good savings rate, around 45%, but claude is saying I'd be more based if I cut back from $1100 ytd (a good chink of that was the brass deluxe trilogy preorder)

>>98527479
I just calculated and it's roughly €405 this year as of now. A little high considering I buy like 80% used. Not subtracting the ones I sold though, that'd be too much of an hassle

Oh wait no

>>98527537
Forgot another 45 from another platform
So 450
Yeah that's probably gonna go to 800 by end of year

>>98526136
>>98526161
>>98526181
Samefag.

>>98527809
You are incorrect.
Just take the L anon
You already come off like an idiot, no need to double down.

I stumbled on Obsidian Protocol but I'm looking for any self contained mecha boardgames that actually exist. Any suggestions?

>>98527479
Last couple of years it's been under 500 bucks each. This year it's somewhere around 300 so far, but it's gona blast off once the GoA 2 reprint crowdfunding goes live.

>>98520935
Yeah, you're probably right.
>>98521319
I'm new to it, so it's still cool to me.

>>98528676
>it's still cool to me.
Here's where you're wrong.

Wyrmspan and Finspan, whatever happened there?

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>>98529118
$45 for wyrms?
$45 for fish?

>>98529118
Wyrmspan has better gameplay than Wingspan but the art is much worse and people only play Wingspan for the art.
I cannot weigh in on Finspan.

>>98529118
Noone really liked it from what I have seen. It still outsold like 99% of released boardgaames (ever, not just that year). 303k copies or so from what I've read. Highly annoying tbqh

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Wingspan(comfyslop) sucks

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Excited for M&M2?

how sre you guys preparing for the great carcasonne shortage of 2028? you do have your copy, right?

>>98530584
Yeah, I think pirate games are highly underappreciated

>>98530604
Lmao what do you mean? Is there going to be a supply chain issue. I got that latest big box and was disappointed at how much of the massive box was just air. I tossed the box and put it in one 40% the size

>>98530584

well... it
could not possibly be worse than the first one

>>98530604
I have a big box copy that was opened once. This reminds me, I should probably give it away to save shelf space.

Fuck tile layers, and fuck family slop in general.

I believe that in board games you're allowed to be a complainer or to be slow, but not both. There's a guy at my games club who breaks this rule and I know others have similar issue with him.

Please be either fast or kind!

>>98530604
Carcassonne is such an astoundingly mediocre game

>>98531194
>>98531231
Oof, big yikes... you guys just posted cringe

>>98516259
I will donate them to either museums, libraries, fellow board gamers or children

>>98530584
Hot damn that looks fire.

>>98516794
Succession Wars
Star Wars Queens Gambit
Starcraft The Board Game

>>98530584
I do not like the smaller board

I don't get how people are so scared by playing a 45 min pax ren game yet don't even blink at a 3h euroslop slog they would lose just as well
Is the thought of your actions having immediate consequences that scary to boardgamers?

>>98532171
There is significant overlap between people who read rule books and people who enjoy Pax games. It is difficult to get people who don't read rule books to play Pax games because teaching the games takes forever.

>>98532188
I don't know, I find euros to be more rule heavy, pax ren has only a couple of symbols not immediately understood when reading the player aid

>>98516794
The Thief of Baghdad

>>98532171
Euroslop looks simple, its a supply chain, A makes B makes two Cs each makes half a D each worth seven VP, for each step in this chain bonuses can make it better, or let you go down the chain with a big multiplier. And each action is simple, too. So you don't really need much brainpower to play them beyond "2 is more than 1 so i should take the bigger number option" and "i have bonus for the B to C conversion that gves me extra VP for doing it, so i should do B to C conversions more oftrn, so this turn I need to get as much B as I can" and similarly simple decision states.
Pax Ren meanwhile looks complex, the victory condition is nebulous and starts out locked, there's so many one shots, so many ops, aaah what should I do, anon you know i'm not good at games that require thinking!

>>98515637
>>What is the most fun part in the last game you played?
I enjoyed that other people were having fun playing the game I taught them from the sidelines. I don't really seem to enjoy most board games like I used to.
>>What do you find most statisfying in a game?
I like a game that is essentially an infinite resetting puzzle. The board state in Five Tribes. Each new hand in Cribbage. How Chess or Spider Solitaire gives you another puzzle to solve each turn. The perfect game for me is essentially just a resetting puzzle. If it has a social element that's an added bonus.
>>Bonus question: what about boardgames annoys you the most?
Setup. Tedious setup. Rules. I used to love really complicated games. I would obsess over rule books and heavily underline the important rules. I would write notes about them. I'd spend countless hours reading forum posts about how to interpret them. I started to notice that I really was the only person that cared. I would get annoyed that other people didn't care about getting the rules right. Or that they would complain when they got them wrong but wouldn't listen when they were explained. Or they would make up their own rules and insist they were right. Honestly I got really fucking of interacting with people over rules. I found myself enjoying the rules more than playing. In the end, I'd rather just not play a game with people. So I started to appreciate simpler games. I could just sit down and play with other people.

>>98532432
Yeah but you're not supposed to be good during your first games, nobody's asking you to bench 100kg the first time you step in a gym or play at 2000 elo level your first chess game but somehow boardgamers cannot cope with games that don't obfuscate your skill level

>>98527479
I go in spurts, but if you want actual numbers, I set aside $100 a month. That money goes towards anything that isn't essential in my life. That means, video games, board games, or other hobbies I won't list here. There were some years where I was literally buying a board game every month. Or more if they were cheap. On some months I would have a little more or less cash. For example, I might have needed something actually useful that I couldn't normally afford. Or I might have had a tax rebate I wasn't expecting. But on average I only waste about $100/month. I don't smoke, drink, or even eat meat. So that keeps me from feeling retarded about wasting money like that. Also, I've gone years without buying board games. Lately I barely buy any at all. I think Dominion might be the only board game I purchased last year.

>>98532188
Pax Ren is really easy to teach you only have to show the actions and the map everything else is quickly explained as it shows up and makes coherent sense during the first exploratory game.

I think teaching pax games has a bad reputation because most teachers just recite a rulebook rather than actually teach, which can be fine for some games but not pax games.

>>98532471
yeah but most people want to at least play with intent, and in Pax Ren you can get lost in the sauce of buying cards only for the best conditions of their one-shot to be gone and so you buy another card or sell cards to fundraise for more cards but uh oh, there's more cards you want, how do you pick which one is better, how do you choose which objective to unlock with the Comet?
And before they know it someone won and they didn't even feel like they got to play the same game. not much different from when they invited me to play HoI4 and didn't help or explain what was going on and while they were busy ww2ing i was busy just figuring out the interface, and then we desynched and the game crashed. or fighting games, those always have a lot of hidden shit, and It sucks to be the button masher in a group of people who know what they're doing, or at least convincingly pretend to.

>>98532755
You're basically saying that's a game with a skill curve other than having to discover the most efficient way to convert cubes into vps. I agree but also don't understand why people are so scared from having to learn a game and possibly fail badly, I see the same with splotters

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>>98532782
Oh that's fairly easy. There are a large number of people who don't play games to be challenged but rather to relax and/or go with their intuition. And I'd assume there's an even larger share of boardgamers with too little time on their hands (as in, everyone with kids). Now, when I play a game and fail miserably, I usually see a challenge that rewards you for powering through it. But I think I'm in the minority here; most would go why the fuck did I spend 2-3 hours on something that made me feel stupid, never gonna do this again I'd rather play 10 games of Trio/Tricktaker xyz/Wingspan etc.
If you're not in to win the game and get no joy out of the journey it's legitimate to avoid this experience. I suppose a lot of anons know that feeling from trying chess or go.

Speaking of pax ren, I keep hearing more and more people praise porf as highly as ren, is there truth to that? I've kind of been avoiding it as the theme does nothing for me

>>98533023
>Speaking of pax ren, I keep hearing more and more people praise porf as highly as ren, is there truth to that? I've kind of been avoiding it as the theme does nothing for me
I've now played Pax Porf several times, and still prefer Pax Ren.
I do like the active regime aspect of Porf, but prefer its implementation in Pax Transhumanity.

>>98516794
Tell me what you think of the new Grendel game. Grendel The Game of Crime and Mayhem. Asymmetrical wargame like ROOT.

>>98533023
But I play at a boardgame club with people playing twice a week and that play stuff like speakeasy on a tuesday evening, I do not buy they are there just for chatting and chilling

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>put up LFG ad at LGS' bulletin board section for a steady group to play with
>no replies

>>98532755
Lmao I went through the tutorial for one of the Hearts of Iron games as well and then I started a game and had no idea what the fuck I was doing. As for the part about fighting games not all them are well suited to ease in newcomers not familiar with the game or even genre. It also doesn't help a large amount of modern fighters being really ill suited or too much of a "long combo" game to help new players get familiar. Like I would not teach someone fighting game fundamentals from any Street Fighter from 4 and onwards. Like I would teach them from old SF2 series and slowly progress from there. Honestly one of the best modern fighting games to learn for any new player is Virtua Fighter 5(you have 3 buttons, Punch, Kick and Guard. Anyone can understand that and just have fun) and some of the Soul Calibur games especially Soul Calibur 2. But don't let the simplicity of Virtua Fighter's controls fool you, it is an incredibly in-depth game. If you want a fundamentals new player focused fighting game, I suggest you download Fantasy Strike and give it a whirl. It's f2p as well but with a paid upgrade for other things.

>>98532446
Hello, cribbage anon. I'm surprised you still come here

>>98533266
The problem with VF5 is that the only people left playing it are all psychopaths.
Better to just wait for Crossroads and pray it saves fighting games

>1 copy of High Frontier 4 All randomly stocked at my LGS
Worth 160 bucks?

>>98533440
It depends, how much autism do you and your group have? No seriously any Phil Eklund game always tends to veer towards that part of the spectrum

>>98533452
We enjoy Pax games but haven't tried his other games. How autistic is that?

>>98533461
I mean if you've tried his other games you already know what to expect already so mild to moderate, you're definitely not zero. I mean Phil is an IRL Rocket Scientist alongside making board games and you're gonna play a game about launching rockets so prepare to think on that level but once you figure things out it's(for me at least) an interesting game. Definitely not a game I can break out in casual groups though.

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>>98533461
Not that autistic.
You can skip Neanderthal/Greenland.
I like Bios Genesis but thats a weird personal hyper niche enjoyment despite not being interested in STEM nor really playing any of the other Bios games (played Mesofauna once, a friend quipped during the session "why don't we just read the research paper he cites in the footnotes instead?".
I would love to learn my other friends copy of Bios Origins sometime. Thats been on his shelf of shame for years.
Has anyone in /bgg/ even touched his accordion folder copies of Lords of the Renaissance/Lords of the Sierra Madre/Lords of the Spanish main?

>>98533198
I think I can explain. I'd say you are right that in terms of sheer rulesload, heavy euros like speakeasy are much harder to pick up than eg. pax ren. Or rather they would be; euros have their own conventions that have grown out of the genre in the decades. Just like how you can pick up nuTricktaker xyz with no problem if you know the fundamentals of tricktaking. If you start from scratch, it's quite the teach despite being considered very light. Remember RftG? Ot was considered a heavy game back when it came out

>>98533440
do you like Kerbal Space Program, but want to replace some (not all) of the engineering autism with support for multiplayer gaming? do you want to plan a route only to then figure out you're out of fuel halfway through, so you need to send a second rocket to refuel your first one while the first one just sits there as an outpost, and the crew just boil in the can for the generations it takes for you to mount a rescue mission? do you like eventually conquering space and building better parts for free already in space, only to ask yourself "how am i gonna get these onto my ship(s)"? then it's worth it. though, ask your LGS if that 160 includes any expansions, because ION's own store sells it for 99 + shipping.

>>98533427
>The problem with VF5 is that the only people left playing it are all psychopaths.
Lol it's not like that but you're also not entirely wrong. I always say not to overthink it too much in VF5 and just have fun, though the irony is that in most fighting games the "default" character on the starting screen is generally well balanced and decent for beginners to learn. EXCEPT in VF5 the default(Akira) is actually one of the more difficult characters to learn in the game. Tekken is also a game with a simple enough control scheme but it is extremely punishing for a beginner to sort of try and learn that game alongside pro players. Despite the modern resurgence of a new golden or silver era of fighting games many of them are absolutely terrible at *teaching* the fundamental concepts of fighting games to a new player. Despite personally growing up and playing a lot of older Marvel games and stuff like KOF, too many of these newer fighting games make things "long combo" and doesn't bridge the gap well between new and veteran players. No new player wants to sit there and do nothing for 20 seconds while their opponent does a long ass combo(or worse an infinite) just because they blocked incorrectly one time, they learn nothing this way.

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>>98520192
Not sure how I feel about being able to pick your initial hand card (also the rules say to set it aside, but you're probably going to check it at least once anyway so why not just keep it in your hand?), maybe it makes it more strategic but I'd have to play a few rounds to see.

>>98533572
>Lol it's not like that but you're also not entirely wrong. I always say not to overthink it too much in VF5 and just have fun
You can do that if you're just playing with your friends casually. I would *never* recommend a new player to dive into VF5 online because they're going to get so effortlessly crushed its discouraging. I otherwise agree that VF is very easy to digest given its meat and potatoes design. Its why I think Crossroads will be an excellent game for newbies compared to shit like 2XKO assuming RGG doesn't fuck it all up.
Also Max Dood, shill that he is, has the right idea for what the best fighter for new players is: whichever one is newest and has lots of other new people to play against.

>>98534291
Yeah but you don't have to play online for VF5 to learn the fundamentals of the game(or fighting games in general) and there's plenty of beginners in there as well.
>Also Max Dood, shill that he is has the right idea for what the best fighter for new players is: whichever one is newest and has lots of other new people to play against
That advice is only good for what fighting game is good to play now if you want games but not what is necessarily a good game to learn to play fighting games.

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>/bgg/ is most active when talking about video games

>>98534615
>Yeah but you don't have to play online for VF5 to learn the fundamentals of the game(or fighting games in general)
You absolutely have to play against other people what are you talking about?

>>98533242
meetup dot com dummy. game stores only have wh40k painters and mtg players.

>>98532478
>goes for years without purchasing
>has a budget
>buys dominion anyway
jesus fucking christ it's like if you decided to go back to eating meat with a can of spam

>>98534994
I already do that, still randos but at least I can get a random game going. My LGS does it every Thursday. I just want a small consistent group rather than whoever walks in that night.

>>98535007
yeah you have to cherrypick the gamers you want to play with and invite them to play on Sunday afternoon or something.

>>98535022
* the theory being you are just another rando when you post a note and ostensibly they also are looking for a serious table where joe-only-wants-to-play-splendor isn't going to ruin their evening.

>>98534972
Not to learn the fundamentals on VF5 you don't, especially for someone who has never played a fighting game before. They can play through the Arcade mode to learn the fundamentals, because they sure as hell aren't going to learn the fundamentals playing online without learning basic fundamental concepts first. Fundamentals for VF5 is for them to figure out the RPS element(block stops attack but gets beaten by throw which gets interrupted by attack. And in the case of VF being a 3D game they can learn sidesteps, correct high/mid/low strikes and defences) Once they have a basic understanding of their character and buttons with a general gameplay of what they feel works for them then they can go online and try their hand at other players.

>>98533440
>>98533461
Pax games are like 1/10th of HF autism. Do not get HF if you only want to play multiplayer. Do not get HF if you don't like the idea that 90% of the game happens in your head and what others see is just you going through the motions. Downtime is immense. Also don't get it for 160, wtf. I got it used for €30 and wouldn't pay more than 60 for it

Just some quick questions

How is Pax Illuminaten? Thoughts?

Is Waterfall Park a good reimplementation?

What's your opinion on Innovation Ultimate Edition?

>>98533378
I don't come here often anymore. I used to when I was obsessed with board games a decade ago. I still pop in hoping that I'll find something new that appeals to me but to be completely honest nothing other than Captain's Chair appealed to me. Then I looked into it and realized I didn't want to deal with the complexity. I'd rather just go back to my copy of Spirit Island or Teotihuacan for solo.

>>98536680
>Is Waterfall Park a good reimplementation?
Nope. Butchered. Save you money.

What's your opinion on Innovation Ultimate Edition?
I own it and enjoy it. Some say some expansions aren't worth it, personally I like having them all in one spot anyways.

>>98537541
>solo
here's where you're wrong

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Waiting for confirmation that a guy will come over tomorrow. If he doesn't... It's a 5 player evening again.

>>98538025
What game do you play with 5-6?

>>98538025
5 truly is the most curser number of players. Maybe 7 is worse but it doesn't happen nearly as often as 5.
Solo is borderline mental illness thus it is not a factor

>>98533440
I played it twice and hated it two of those times. You can watch the other players fuck around with rockets that will blow up at a moments notice for 4 hours or just bid everything you have on a solar sail and cruise the (inner) cosmos without having to do water math.

SpaceCorp is the best space exploration board game and I'm tired of acting like it isn't.

>>98538092
You can play Hansa or El grande at 5, Dune at 6

>>98536680
>How is Pax Illuminaten? Thoughts?
I like it. It plays really well at 2-3. 4 players has too much down time. The scheme mechanic is really nice because it gives you flexibility to do stuff right now but restricts your options in later turns. It doesn't have a significant rules overload and you can play well after one play of the game where you learn how some of the more complex mechanics (like Oust) work. It comes with two secret games that you can play with the cards from the base game.

>>98538092
>5
Power Grid (semi-played out)
Rising Sun (shit)
Shogun (boring)
Fury of Dracula (played out)

We will play El Grande if this occurs, but it's not really an event game. Possibly Heat, even though it's better at 6.

>6
Dune
Quartermaster General: WW2 (played out, still pullable though)
TI4
Eclipse
Sidereal Confluence

Yes you can play some of these at different player counts, no I'm not interested in anything except the optimal one.

Also lots of games go unmentioned, especially for the 5 player count, because they are just that much not worth mentioning. Yes, worse than Rising Sun.

>>98538183
Got confirmation just as I hit post. Fuck yes, going to torment my group with Sidereal Confluence.

While we're on the topic, similarly, what are your favorite games for exactly 3 players?

>>98538164
Secret games?

>>98538260
Churchill, Spirit Island, The Great Zimbabwe, and Pax Transhumanity

>>98527479
well lookie here...
around 450£ on average

(i wasn't gonna post until next month as promised but this post clearly called for it)

>>98527479
Having just dropped 5.5k on a Lotr LCG collection...my average is a bit out of wack right now.

>>98538471
How's your year going anon, what's on your list. It's been a while.

>>98538260
GWT, Brass

>>98538260
I think that's the easiest playercount. The majority of euros work best at 3 imo
But to answer the question, Churchill obviously, Gaia Project, Tfm, and weirdly, Ra.

>>98538183
Beyond Two Cities is a nice easy game that scales nicely at different player counts. It's not a "heavy" game but it plays up to 3-7 so you can just use it as filler in between

>>98538260
DUNC(base game with add ons or Imperium)
Through The Ages
Viticulture
Brass
OG version of Star Trek Ascendancy was meant for exactly 3 players as well, plays up to 4 with expansions. Though it does seem to have a reprint coming up with a big box version that has all the expansion races included to allow for a whopping 12 player game

>>98538736
>Beyond Two Cities
Between*

I have it, it's pretty great. Surprisingly it is actually very skill-based, as indicated by me winning literally 5 out of 5 matches I've played of it.

Would recommend, but it's not the type of game me or my group shows up for on a Friday evening.

>>98538966
Do you have an opinion on Between Two Cities versus Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig?

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The only thing I want to be between is her lips

>>98539294
I keep trying to look for an afghan related pun about her but Im coming up short.

Anybody got a scan of the new Viticulture France board?

>>98538516
Lmao crazy

>>98539294
Cute guy

>>98539287
Haven't played that or the original Castles of Mad King Ludwig. Not my wheelhouse to begin with, I'm a heavy guy (in more ways than one).

But just looking at the description and how the game looks in action, it looks worse. The amount of different tiles looks much higher, and the castles are all fucked up instead of a 4x4 square. Which means less planning and more luck, i.e., sliding from a tight little game into consoomer tileslop.

>>98539694
No idea about between two xyz, but og Castles of mad king ludwig is a very good game. Kinda underrated tbqh, but I can see how the master builder both adds a lot to the game yet also does lead to AP more than it should

>>98539640
I honestly don't care at this point, I just want to have a night in where I can transition from a tabletop experience to a bedroom experience.

>>98539817
What about Blueprints of Mad Kibg Ludwig?

>>98538267
If you take out the insert, taped on the bottom are some extra pieces and new cards that let you play an area control game called Owls of Minerva. If you take out the false bottom, there are rules for a game called Trounce that you can play with the Illuminati cards.

I played Acquire, almost played Container, but then played Moon Colony Bloodbath because a friend showed up tonight. MCB is okay I guess.

>>98538183
>Yes, worse than Rising Sun
Lol. If we are talking 5p specifically then Battle for Rokugan, Kemet, Imperial 2030, Indonesia, 1830, Space Alert, Pax Pamir, Container and Hansa Teutonica shit all over Rising Sun.

>>98539294
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

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It's over.

>>98541558
Nooooooooo
Genuinely one of the few people I respect in the bg industry. Kinda didn't need the videos but they were convenient a bunch of times. Gonna miss the dude

>>98515637
>What is the most fun part in the last game you played?
Playing cards and thus filling the console in Civolution. I still think it's an S tier Feld.
>What do you find most statisfying in a game?
Passive boni. Sounds super faggy and bland, but I really get a kick out of gaining an additional something from an action or event. Stuff like the lantern bonus in White Castle is catnip to me. Gotta be consistent, though. "Get bonus if you roll x" doesn't get nearly as high a dopamine spike.
>Bonus question: what about boardgames annoys you the most?
Transparent conversion rates; when euros are being too obvious that someone mathed it all out and all actions are 99% identical. one vp equals One gold equals two iron equals three wood equals one action and so on.

>>98540233
Oh you are going to transition, just not in the way you expect.

>>98540233
sadly, jacking off to Bullet is the closest you'll ever get.

>>98541640
it's not much of a board game. once I got it on the first row and my gf at the time never played with me again.

>>98540233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBIkkThezk

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>>98538183
>Container shits all over anything
No, I'm not even a Rising Sun stan. Container is one of the worst designed games I've had the misfortune of playing this year.

>>98540233
Just get good enough in TS and olga will give you a discount

>>98543062
Let me guess, you played it like it was some fucking nu-euro?

>>98518170
I only watched a few vids ages ago. When was this? Did it slow down after Quinn dropped off?

>>98543638
Nta but I watched them beginning with like ep3 of the absolute SOVL that was their longform episodes when they started. It got slowly worse over the years, matt was always a giant red flag, but it was at least semi-informative of how a game """"feels"""". I stopped watching after their BotC video which I am still convinced was nothing but a paid advertisement. From the glimpses I got it got way, way worse.

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I have somehow misplaced the non card components for Pax Ren.
The gold, the chess pieces, player placards, pirate ships.
I need to tear through every game, empty box, and random accessory storage.
How the fuck.

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Has one of you lads ever played this absolute nightmare in beige? Dads on a map shilled it a bit and I'm intrigued, their taste in old interactive euros is usually very good

Freya's folly btw. Do NOT look at the cover if you want to keep your eyesight intact

>>98543638
I'm convinced they no longer play boardgames more than the bare minimum and especially don't enjoy reviewing them

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>>98543716
Too much SOUL for you, anon?

>>98544049
There no soul here, nor is it as awful as anon implied.
It's just typical of the low budget / low quality box covers that were a dime a dozen in the early aughts.

>>98544049
>cover made of pencil crayon
Pure Ludo

>>98544131
Idk anon it's genuinely one of the worst pieces of box art I've seen. The bland, almost featureless depiction of freya (at least I assume it's her) with the weird exception of her hand, the dwarves in the background look as if drawn in an entirely different style and - what I think really makes the ugliness pop - the fucking yellow frame. Though I've admittedly not seen many 80s boxes

>>98544049
would

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>>98543695
Oh thank god.

>>98544922
But...how?

>>98544922
Darn Pirates looting game pieces!

I played Puerto Rico and then right after a generic euroslop and damn, they really don't make em like they used to

>>98544922
I get pax ren and flick fleet mixed up all the time too

>>98544922
>grab new thing off the shelf
>put away old thing in new box "temporarily" because lazy
>forget
I've done this with movies. I've done it with physical video games. I have not done it with board games yet.

>>98545710
>Can't look back at the standard edition after playing the special edition
Should I go for it? I don't feel like paying for eBay prices. But at the same time, I don't want to wait for a whole year if I go for the current reprint campaign. Is this what FOMO feels like?

>>98543716
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Battle report, Sidereal Confluence edition. Had a nice little game yesterday as Eni Et. Somehow managed to get 2nd place which was better than I expected and especially given the start which was extremely rough.

No idea how to even come close to winning the game as the space whales though. Kit (who won with an 18 point lead) just shits out resources from turn one whereas my piles for the first three turns were extremely sad. Early research is not even an option because it would've taken even longer to get my engine going. Or is it?

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want to ask here for any help as well, is their any exoteric boardgame that meets that could help me out.

>>98547076
usually games are played for fun and competition, not for future reading, if you want esoteric shit ask /x/. personally I don't think tarots work, since every card in either orientation can be applied to anyone in a vague enough way that it'll sound plausible, same with the Zodiac horoscopes, glass crystals, and similar woo.
If you really wanna understand someone, play an actual dueling game against them, and it can be anything from classic abstracts (Chess, Hive, Homeworlds) to more modern shit (Curious Cargo, Furnace Duel, BattleCON) and actually the type of games they prefer and how they like to play (aggressive, defencive, reactive, solitaire focus) will tell you more about them than a shuffled set of cards ever could.

or i might be misinterpreting your question and you just want board games with tarots and/or interpretive work in them, in which case for the tarots some Icehouce piece using abstracts also use tarots and people say they're alright, as for interpretation there's a range from image games (Dixit, Mysterium) to word games (Codenames, So Clover, Decrypto) to even the "communicate without communication" games that let you pretend you've got ESP (The Mind, Take Time) and the weird in-between things i don't remember the names of. dishonorable mention to City of Six Moons, it knows what it did wrong.

if none of this helps please rephrase the question to sound less schizo, thank you in advance.

>>98547076
Idk, but Gnostica uses tarot cards to play if I remember

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>that cover art
It's all so fucking tiresome

>>98547138
>>98547172
thank you anons

>usually games are played for fun and competition, not for future reading, if you want esoteric shit ask /x/. personally I don't think tarots work, since every card in either orientation can be applied to anyone in a vague enough way that it'll sound plausible, same with the Zodiac horoscopes, glass crystals, and similar woo.
that is the wierd thing with this woo , its actually so niche I am not sure if someone else has done it before


I don't want to use a normal board game to makes me read the future , I want to read the future to create a normal board game.
its a very schitzo concept so I kind of get it.
I also have been typing to much schitzo lately , what of the main reasons I want to do this actually , to ground myself.

>If you really wanna understand someone, play an actual dueling game against them, and it can be anything from classic abstracts (Chess, Hive, Homeworlds) to more modern shit (Curious Cargo, Furnace Duel, BattleCON) and actually the type of games they prefer and how they like to play (aggressive, defencive, reactive, solitaire focus) will tell you more about them than a shuffled set of cards ever could.

or i might be misinterpreting your question and you just want board games with tarots and/or interpretive work in them, in which case for the tarots some Icehouce piece using abstracts also use tarots and people say they're alright, as for interpretation there's a range from image games (Dixit, Mysterium) to word games (Codenames, So Clover, Decrypto) to even the "communicate without communication" games that let you pretend you've got ESP (The Mind, Take Time) and the weird in-between things i don't remember the names of. dishonorable mention to City of Six Moons, it knows what it did wrong.
I think those will help thank you anon , the main thing I am looking for , is a way to turn tarot like informatoin , or even information in general , to have as a base for a board game.
I will look into them.

>>98547280
to explain more on my intentions , imagine a board game but all the players minus myself are woo woo ententies.

or a videogame but all its hardwere and somewhat of its softwere is in the astral , made out of woo woo.

but the game itself is normal.

>>98547280
>I want to read the future to create a normal board game
that's called using your imagination, anon. Think of what the game should play like, then figure out what rules and incentives fascilitate that play.
>>98547284
>imagine a board game but all the players minus myself are woo
That's basically Mysterium, one player silently, through interpretive cards, has to tell each other player their "vision" for who they think is the killer, where, and with what weapon, and then at the end help them all find out which of the "visions" is the true one. It uses cards a-la Dixit but i don't see why you can't have tarots and coffee grounds for it instead.

Thinking about Kingdoms Forlorn, does anyone have any experience with it and willing to offer their opinions or experiences with it?

>>98546143
What the point if you can't whip brown disks in the caves and plantations?

>>98547453
in all versions of GWT my amigo is adamant the workers are slaves, you know, you buy them once and they work for free forever after. Also GWT1 will forever be better than GWT2 because you rousted Indian teepees instead of bandits that look more like cowboys (literally erasing the indians to not be offensive is ultimate woke irony)

Browns in Puerto Rico was peak gaming before woke culture, it's a shittier game that goes out of it's way to be inclusive and lie about the true nature of the history it portrays.

>>98547189
The game is so shit too it's gone through several mechanism changes after being out

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>>98543616
I played it like a strict economic game, which I'm not normally not very good at, but compared to the idiots I played with I might as well have been Milton fucking Freidman.

The loan mechanic is ass, and needs the tacked on foreign bank module(which the rulebook says is not required, it fucking is) to refuel the economic loop. Trouble is the foreign bank module is also absolute ass with an auction system that only lets you play one side of bank at a time, and any lost bids are an entire action wasted. If you've got a substantial enough lead you can just stall out the auction to make other players miserable, and if you're already struggling for cash, the foreign banks actions just put you more behind if literally anyone at the table contests them.

The way money leaves the economy is also not congruent with how it re-enters, and if players don't know what they're doing they can eliminate themselves from the game. In one game I played, the entire table invested in infrastructure while I rushed sales. Everyone ended up in a debt spiral such that I could buy auctions for like 3 dollars and if they took double money it didn't fucking matter because that sort of income wasn't going to resupply them for the next auction in any meaningful way. In the 4 games I've played, I've seem multiple players eliminate themselves in a game that technically doesn't have elimination.

Container is a game that poses as an elegant trimmed down economic game, but in actuality is just retarded. If you want an minimal and interactive economic game with cool pieces, just play the Estates.

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>>98548174
>needs the tacked on foreign bank module(which the rulebook says is not required, it fucking is) to refuel the economic loop
the foreign bank is absolutely not required because older editions of the game didn't have it and were fine. it is specifically made as a replacement of an older optional "passive income" rule.
>the entire table invested in infrastructure
ah, so they did play it like a nu-euro. looks like other anon was right.

>>98548098
QRD? my buddy's copy is sitting in shrinkwrap on my shelf since we won't get to it for another week. should I print errata? how is the game really?

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>>98548255
>replaces an older optional rule
Is that rule in the new edition? Because the base economic system is not sufficient to refuel itself without the foreign bank if multiple new players over extend themselves. It's basically just double money that injects cash, and if people reject that for getting their own crates it can push the economy to a crawl.

>nu-euro nonsense
Given a sufficient number of newbies, most of them are going to invest in production or warehousing. It has not nothing to do with playing the game like a euro. If you have the tell the entire table to ignore investing in 1/3 of the action space available to have a good time that's not good game design.

>>98548368
>dead wall place after tiles were lain
How the fuck

>>98548291
It's been a while but they basically changed what some tokens are used for (a la Kemet 1.5) because they were completely useless in comparison to any other option, they changed the main scoring too iirc, something about cult classic bonuses being terrible or something. I believe everything is documented on a file page on bgg.

>how is the game really?
I found it extremely bland gameplay wise. It's clear they wanted to have wacky anime concepts by mixing tiles together and have people create "anime genre about x with y as twist" and have fun with it but felt the need to tack on an euro game on top of it. You just place your worker to do a simple action, hire cards to get stronger actions, then do the anime so it scores points and then repeat for 3 more rounds with no real sense of resourcefulness or wit, then everybody probably reaches the score cap (because idk why there's one, maybe just because that's how far their little hollow score track goes) and then the game's over.

Rulebook even comes with a "variant" that tells you to treat it like the party game they probably wanted it to be and just ignore everything and just mix funny anime tiles and discuss it like CAH.

>>98548368
Kek @ picture. One day I'm going to make a bunch of these hodge podge game pictures for you guys


Are there any cool mech games? It's such an under represented theme in bg for some reason. The only one I have is Neuroshima Hex with Moloch(I think most of them are robots, but 1 or 2 are mechs?) faction. Also, there are a few mechs in Ascension Tactics.
And no, Scythe is shit.

>>98548757
The ones in familiar with are Embryo Machine, AEGIS, and Giant Killer Robots.
The first is a battle arena game with grid movement and drafted combat decks that represent tour mech's loadout. The second is a lightweight skirmish game where you build a team of robots and combine them into bigger robots. The third, which is the only one I haven't played yet but has been on my list to try, is a strategy game where you control a small squad of mechs that fulfill different roles to support your larger mech in a big combat sport match.
I recommend AEGIS if you like super robot stuff. Embryo Machine didn't do it for me, but the art of the robots is pretty to look at. I'm hoping GKR scratches the tactical combat itch better than EM.

>>98548757
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/167672

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What are your 5 favorite 1v1 games that are on the lighter side?

>>98549663
I really do need to bite the bullet and get Zenith sometime.

>>98549663
Pax ren

>>98549690
Anon said light, not short.

>>98549846
Can't be lighter than the white man's game of choice.

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after having played quite a few rounds of arcs, i am not sure if i like it. it has some interesting design decisions, but i think my main gripe with the game is turns taking too long. i don't see how you can play 5 chapters in 2 hours. there often comes a point where everyone will use their prelude to do most of their actions, which requires so much mental upkeep and focus. you need to figure out what you can do in what order to maximize your move set and get the best out of the way you spend your resources. it's exhausting. if there was a way to offload this, the game would benefit greaty from it. it removes a lot of the fun of the game.

>>98549663
Splendor Duel
Memoir '44 (Or Battle of Both if my opponent is into Star wars)
Scout
Agent Avenue
Flamecraft Duals
>>98549895
That might be one of the reasons on why I never bothered in getting the mini campaign expansion, and imagine how long would it take for you to finish a campaign with the same group lol

>>98549663
Compile, Flamecraft Duals

>>98549663
>Toy battle
>Duel for cardia
>Castle Combo
>Sea salt&paper (only with both expansions though)
>War chest, although it's more light-medium

>>98550080
It took me and 2 friends 7 hours and change over three nights to complete the campaign.
I don't understand what the problem is supposed to be here?

>>98548894
>>98548922
Thanks, anons

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Would somebody like to play Go this weekend? I just installed the OGS phone app and made a new account in case im somehow dog shit on cellphone,
https://online-go.com/player/2092912/
please send me a challenge or request!

>TQ
I went to my city's AGA chapter after some messed up stuff happened just before my birthday, and beat one of the dan players there, reducing my handicap. perhaps it was an early present, or a consolation for what happened.

>>98516259
if i ever achieve high level in a board game, i would like for my tombstone or mausoleum to contain some reference to it, or just contain a board carved in.

>>98548174
>and needs the tacked on foreign bank module
People, including myself, have been playing without it for over a decade but sure you are the expert here after 4 games.
>if players don't know what they're doing they can eliminate themselves from the game
Like in most economic games.
>compared to the idiots I played with
>the entire table invested in infrastructure while I rushed sales
>I've seem multiple players eliminate themselves
Congrats, you just realised that the game punishes bad play and that you have to adapt to what other players are doing.
>the Estates
Lol.

>>98543670
Yeah, botc was a weird video, and probably the point at which there was no return

>>98548074
I specifically bought gwt1 to get the teepees and white employees. The idea that a black guy would be in charge of the trains back then is just historically inaccurate

>>98549663
Battleline
Targi
Watergate
Santorini
War Chest

Maybe Watergate is middle weight for some, I think the rules are very straightforward, though

>>98550316
>I don't understand what the problem is supposed to be here?
My board game group can't commit that long into a board game of this caliber.

What do you guys think of the Arkham horror card game? Is the deck building interesting or are the campaigns too short for it to really matter?

>>98550927
I’ve only played the base campaign and dunwich, which I hear wasn’t even the best one. I would totally play it a lot more but don’t have the time to get into it. I played very vanilla builds, seeker and guardian or whatever it was called. I felt lots of times that I could see how a different class or build would be a lot of fun. I think there’s enough progression within the campaigns that depending on how you build your deck it could change strategy quite a bit. I think there’s plenty to explore. I doubt it’s replayable _forever_ though, but there seemed quite a bit to experience.

>>98550765
When it comes to the classics I still play chess and I don't think it will ever truly get replaced by anything else. When I play go, I really just feel like playing a different area control game. It has been replaced by 4 or so games for me. Not sure why go doesn't have that staying power for me

>>98550927
>What do you guys think of the Arkham horror card game?
One of my favorite games.
>Is the deck building interesting or are the campaigns too short for it to really matter?
In most of the original content, yes. The biggest flaw the game has with its deckbuilding is that every class, of which there are five, all have some load bearing cards that you need to have a really good reason to justify not taking. Other than that though the sheer variety of cards and investigators means that there are several viable archetypes for each class that all do things differently. Nearly all of the replay value of campaigns is going through them with different investigators and decks.
As for the campaigns themselves, 8 scenarios hits a sweet spot for the pacing: you feel like you're getting a lot of meaningful upgrades at the end of each scenario. You don't feel like you're being rushed through, but you also don't feel like you're just slogging through scenario after scenario waiting for some meaningful upgrade.
However, all of that only applies to the now out of print Chapter 1 content. FFG's reboot of the line with Chapter 2 has now gutted the campaigns into two parts, with there now being "small campaigns" of three scenarios, and "full campaigns" with five scenarios. The first of these new short campaigns just came out and while the scenarios themselves are actually solid, it just can't give you nearly enough experience for it to feel satisfying to upgrade your deck. I would imagine the new full campaigns are better in this regard but 5 scenarios is still a significant cut in content. This isn't even getting into all the other problems Chapter 2 has.
All of that is to say that as much as it pains me I would not recommend AHLCG in its current form. If you're interested in the game I'd highly recommend just getting the module for Tabletop Simulator (its not on the workshop so you'd have to go a TTS save trading discord for it.)

can't think of anywhere else I might get an answer so does anyone know where to find the original scythe for tabletop simulator? Even if it got taken down I refuse to believe there isn't a way to download it someplace

>>98549895
is dune imperium uprising similar in that way? according to BGG it is even more heavy. or is it possible for everyone to take their turns faster with less overhead? i think a big problem of why it is like that with arcs is that after each turn the board state and your situation can change so drastically that you have to completely rethink what you were gonna do anyway, which in itself would becompletely fine with me, if each turn did not take so long to pull off.

do any of you guys actually only need 2 hours for one game of arcs?