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this thread has been annexed by the 'tau empire
I haven't played muh Votann in 11th yet, is slamming down two Hekatons full of Thunderkyn still good or do I need to get more Sagitaurs and spam those?
>>98523483>Did you ever read what they call Black Library?
is true?
How retarded would I be to get and play this list? I want a rich technomancer showing off his ancient car collection to the plebsXenos - Necrons - WotW - [950 pts]Royal Warden [50 pts]Technomancer [80 pts]Immortals [70 pts]:• 5x ImmortalImmortals [70 pts]:• 5x ImmortalAnnihilation Barge [95 pts]Annihilation Barge [95 pts]Canoptek Doomstalker [140 pts]Canoptek Doomstalker [140 pts]Doomsday Ark [210 pts]
>>98523510is what true?
>>98523483>What are some models long overdue to get squatted and why is it the fire prism?Ezekiel is still a fucking metal model.
>>98523505Is that page real? Book and page number please?Or is it a good photoshop or a printed paper to be a fake lore piece like pic related?
I like orks :D>>98523493this is an ork thread and orks own the galaxy. don’t you forget.
I painted my crucible character from ye olden days.Whatever happened to thise rules?
Salt miner big whiner pecking order.You may not complain to someone about your faction unless you are lower on the pecking order than all of their armies.>Ultramarines>Dark Angels>Necrons>Space Wolves>Blood Angels>Orks>Deathguard>Custodes>Eldar>Imperial Knights>Imperial Guard>CSM>Black Templar>Sisters>Iron Warriors>Thousand Sons>GSC>World Eaters>Red Corsairs>Leagues of Votann>Salamanders>Raven Guard>Chaos Knights>Emperor's Children>Nightlords>Imperial Fists>Iron Hands>AdMech>White Scars>Dark Eldar>Grey Knights>Chaos Demons>Harlequins>Deathwatch>Imperial Agents
>>98523512SENSING VICTORY WAS NEARINGTHINKING FORTUNE MUST HAVE SMILEDPEOPLE STARTED CHEERINGCOME ON THUNDER CHILD
>>98523483The fire prism is fucking kewl though
>>98523483>TQThese two mother fuckers are ugly as sin and way overdue to get replaced.
Is the 39k Pro site down for good? did Geedubs finally seek and destroy it? Damn shame.
>>98523547You are more ugly.
>>98523493Propagandize me harder if you want me to care.
>>98523532>end of edition stuff>whatever happened there
>>98523536>Salamanders below Sisters when Salamanders are literally just "what if SoB, but actually good"I WILL continue to complain about Sisters being bad and constantly compare them to Salamanders
>>98523536>Black Legion didn't even make the listBlackedbros, not like this!
>>98523521>Letter dated 1953>Mentions asking Google. What do you think? Do you even think?
>>98523521@Gork, is this real?
>>98523521>1953 >GoogleI think its safe to say it isn’t real.
>>98523536How does this affect the factions I make fun of?
How would one paint an army with the color of amber or honey?
>>98523493What's the point of art like this? Nowhere near accurate to in universe tau, but also not obviously coomer material? Why does it exist?
>>98523604Its fun
>>98523613You kind of proved my point with that pic though.>goofy image>still tries to portray them accuratelySo what's the mental disease where people are giving tau childbearing hips and thighs when it's not coom-related?
>>98523604>>98523623Autism speaks
>>98523119How do I paint good erotic looking skin like this, I need to acquire this skill
>>98523623Oh sorry I meant to add that you should just think of it as a tau wearing a wig. But if the thighs are your issue then thats just silly. Who says tau cant have thick thighs?
>>98523631I just hate how bastardised the tau are>hurrdurr fish people!>tau have no gills, not associated with water, they're just blue>blblblblblb girthy waist!>tau are never depicted with such anatomyI hate the way the 40K community misrepresents tau. I just would love to see tau art that looks like fucking tau and not generic thicc animu girl with blue skin and a slit on their forehead
>>98523645Learn to blend, you need really smooth transitions for the skin to look good. Airbrush helps, too.
>>98523601brass and oranges shifting into yellows
>>98523647>Who says tau cant have thick thighs?They're not human, they don't subscribe to human physiology, and in all official art and lore there has never been a thicc tau. For all we know they just don't collect and store body mass like that
>>98523649>>98523662the other anon was right you're severely autistic
WAOW!!!! A HECKIN AWESOMESAUCE PRIMARCH IS GONNA RETURN!!! I hope my wife's boyfriend buys him for me!
>>98523667Sure, yeah I probably am. That disproves my point how? Tau are one of my favourite factions and have been constantly misrepresented since their introduction to 40K, whoda thunk someone would have a chip on their shoulder about it
>>98523565Sisters have about 15 times the unique models salamanders have, 5 times the featured art, and 1.5 times the published lore content. Rules are a temporary aberration, but depending on how you count the Space Marine Detachments Salamanders and Sisters have a similar number of dedicated Detachment options.
>>98523671why does he write holy emperor so much. I dont like valrak.
>>98523683Do you own any?
>>98523671an anon in the last thread claimed this was based on trazyn bringing up how he had “7th Praetorian” in his collection, and how Dorn was the praetorian of terra and the 7th primarch. there’s no way this is all these dudes have to go off, right?
>>98523578>>98523589Damn I just checked the page and saw the google watermark and date. I think I'm part of the retardation problem here and in real life.Anyways "I'm taking the L" as the kids say.Seriously though how likely is it that fake book pages like "The greater faith" paragraph I posted would be taken as fake if they were more "subtle?" It makes me wonder how many fake wiki and lexicanum entries with an unrelated citation slapped on that are still considered fact to this day.
>>98523693Salamanders are magnitudes better than sisters and pretending like the space marine codex isn't part of the salamander's selection of models is disingenuous at best.I'm seriously getting tired of space marine players complaining about anything at all when some factions have decades old models, like 5 detachment choices, and entire model lines that are smaller than just the character or vehicle or whatever single section of the marine options. It's seriously whack and reveals that some people have completely lost perspective as I also pointed out here >>98512339.Votan, deldar, eldar, sob, chaos, pretty much everyone except orks right now roll their eyes whenever a marine player complains about anything. You people have EVERYTHING and you still complain.
>>98523717Technically yes? I sold what I had but kept like a single fire warrior, and I only got rid of them because James was focusing so much on the mechs when I was really interested in the footslogging, coalition force tactics aspect of tau (pathfinders are some of my fave guys of all time followed by kroot and their shapers). Fuck GW and their desire to always just chase what sells well.
>>98523712he is THE modern space marine fan
>>985237307th Praetorian were stolen from Inquisitor Draxus.>They have recently been requisitioned by Lord Inquisitor Kyria Draxus to aid her in combating the Necron threat in the Pariah Nexus.[1]
>>98523649MEANWHILE: IN SPACE >I just hate how bastardised humans are>hurrdurr monkey people!>humans have no tails, not associated with trees, they're just primates >blblblblblb girthy waist!>humans are never depicted with such anatomy>I hate the way the 40J community misrepresents humans. I just would love to see human art that looks like fucking humans and not generic thicc blipblorp girl with white skin and a a pronounced olfactory node on their face
>>98523693>unique modelsIf you go by this metric, all space marines move down, as do CSM of all kinds, guard and GSC, Eldar and DEldar and Guard/Sisters/Grey Knights/Deathwatch/Imperial Agents, because they all share models to a degree.If you wanted bespoke sculpts, you shouldn't have played the faction whose ENTIRE GIMMICK is "we all look the same but are colored different."Besides that, if someone's complaint is about GAMEPLAY, why would bespoke sculpts have any credence in that discussion?>>98523730The VII Praetorian were a homebrew regiment mentioned in White Dwarf 519 (December 2025) as being requisitioned by an Inquisitor to fight Necrons in the Pariah Nexus.
>>98523742tau were always focused on mechs first, that's their whole faction gimmick
>>98523747also dorn would not make their skirmish "too crowded" unlike a regiment of infantry, given he considered battlesuit squads he nabbed from tau as well it being dorn is has a chance bellow 0>>98523742sucks to hear anon, I'm more leaning towards mecha myself but it's a shame that actual covenant+mech heavy support isn't really a thing
Threadly mental health checkMuch love to everyone out there11th is good timesGW sucks dick sometimes but life is good bros
>>98523762Tau were the combined arms army. Infantry in transports with good guns, photon grenades, modern tactics. Battlesuits were jump elites that were used like helos, or close enough. >>98523742Great looking dudes, shame you sold your stuff Anon.
>>98523788Literally the first blurb on why to buy tau by GW was about their cool looking mechs
>>98523762>their whole faction gimmickAgain with the misrepresentation, they have two gimmicks. No other faction does the whole coalition of races aspect as hard as tau, and back when FoF was a thing infantry tau lists were very common. Anyway, now that we've got kroot refresh, plastic vespids, breachers and all I could probably do a decently fun troops list but I've since moved on and hold little interest after the eyesore that is the stormsurge.
>>98523788>The Crisis suit Platoon, Supports the Tank Platoon which supports the Infantry Platoon. Yes. Its kino. I use Kauyon and Experimental prototype cadre to drop all my suits and have them be extra lethal,
>>98523742>got rid of them because GW focused on mechs too muchwhy though? I’m not going to act like they don’t have a shit ton of mechs, but all the footsloggers are still supported, and still look great. you even have kroot and vespid refreshes, so you have even more footsloggers to work with. there’s also plenty of other footslogger minis they can still make like the tarellians, gue’vesa, and loxatl.
>>98523536So uh... where's Tau?Probably between Guard and CSM?
>>98523772Thanks you too bud.
Hows your collage entry coming along, /40kg/? Im pretty much done with the model itself i just need to put something dead on the base
>>98523814>all the footsloggers are still supported, and still look great"Still" is not quite right here. There was a dark period of time when all they did was release mechs, and if you weren't using the shiny mechs then your list sucked raw ass. This was when I sold mine off
>>98523831>6th ed>riptide, broadside, tau commander>7thcrisis, ghostkeel,more commanders in crisis, iridium>FW is even more mechsdreadful
>>98523823I finally started the actual painting step. Trying out a newer style for shits and giggles and it feels promising.It's nice to be a part of this general's monthly event. Wish I could convince myself to participate more often.
would you decline to play against someone whose models are the wrong colors or really poorly painted? and not in a "thin your paints" kind of way, but a "maybe you need your vision tested" kind of way
>>98523538Thunderchild is an unreasonably cool name for a ship holy shit.
>>98523536>any non-space marine.>above any space marine other than GK or DW.Shit list.
>>98523536EC don't belong on this list they shouldn't even be an army
>>98523483The Eldar Tanks are timeless. They will last until the mold fucking breaks.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98523823looks nice did they get bit by a radioactive genestealer?what faction are you planning to put on the base?>Hows your collage entry coming alongpretty good, at home I’m doing the marines, and at work I’m doing the orks. sadly, I was only able to do the skin today because I was interrupted by my morbidly obese coworker coming into the break room out of breath from walking 20 feet, and about to microwave some mystery food, so I had to call it quits.
>>98523905>wrong coloursNo such thing, people can paint the models they own however they like.>poorly paintedNot an excuse not to play. I've played BB against a dude rocking bare plastic starter set Nobility, and for those who don't know them they're in red plastic (so much worse to identify details than grey) and the differences with their positionals are subtle as it is... Oh but he was also using Griff as a blitzer and one of the blitzers as a blocker or some shit like that. Absolutely awful game, but still played it
>>98523823Gotta be a space wolf
>>98523905>wrong colorsWhat you call "wrong colors," he calls /hisdudes/>poorly paintedI won't decline to play assuming it's just a regular guy and not a literal tard; I'm not putting up with that; however, I've also never seen one into 40k (beyond autists), but I'd ask about the paint job and see if he wants advice/help in the future depending on his mannerisms and how he reacts to questions about the paint.
>>98523947its meant to be gsc that are descendants of hive fleet behemoth, apart from this guy most of my army are painted in exaggerated reds and blues. i have 3 friends who have just gotten back into the hobby who play (or planning on playing) ultramarines, raven guard and yes, space wolves so i might just put 3 heads of those on my base>>98523952more that likely at this point but not for the reasons here
>>98523905it doesnt bother me really, im well used to it at this point. the second i get my army out they generally comment on it positively and tend to bring up that they "arent really much of a painter" but i dont care, most of these people that arent the best painters make up for it in their ability to play the game, hence why i lose most of my games against basecoated / half painted / greytide armies
>>98523852Looks very clean so far
>>98523762Nah, On release Tau only had the Crisis suits for mechs. The XV15 stealth suits were basically power armour and the broadside was just a Railgun strapped to a crisis.We got the riptide and the fliers in 6th but it wasn't until 7th edition that terminal mech brain set in with the ghostkeel and the stormsurge.Tau were on conception supposed to be the closest thing to a real army that could fit in 40k. Thats why their response to titans was an airstrike.Then the riptide sold 12 Trillion copies and they became the mech faction.
>>98523970theyre kinda just the designated joke faction so
>tfw the new trukk is twice the price (if not more) than the old modelthe codex is much cheaper though
>>98523989retard the original advertising for them literally said "why collect a tau army? The stylish mechs of course!"
>>98523823I'm not doing anything this month, don't really have anything for the theme. I could be extremely lazy and buy that 'new' Cthigger hero unit since he comes with it pre-built but my stance on him is likely already apparent. I'm not too fond of enemy faction prescence on miniatures outside of dedicated Diorama style stuff. I think it looks only 'okay' at best when facing that faction and looks absolutely stupid against every other faction or model (outside of small chachky elements like skulls on the backpack etc) but that exception "wouldn't count" by whatever internal metric my gut uses.
>>98523988Thanks. I've decided to go in basically the opposite direction from my chapter master. Not only am I not doing oil washes, I'm not doing washes of any kind. I'm shooting for really dark highlights and really vivid volumetric stuff.
>First draft of the teaching schedule just got released today>If it sticks I may have two days in the week where I'm effectively done teaching by 10:30 and have from then until 4:30 I got lunch duty still in between that but that's still like 4-5 hours of potential hobby time on the company dime a day twice a week.
Anyone got a recipe for alablaster white skin?I'm finally putting my Dark Eldar pile of shame, out of the pile. and I got some wyches and succubi, but I'm a bit sure how to proceed on their skin, do I go for a offwhite color then shade with red/blue mix?
>>98523772Thanks bruv. I love you too. I don't wish anybody physical harm or ruin here unless you did something criminal to deserve it that even prisoners will go after your ass.>GW sucks dickThey do. That's why I have gotten more into piracy of scans and hunting STLs and even looking for /awg/ rules to reuse Warhammer 40k models to play but not play Warhammer 40k if that makes sense. Hopefully the alternative systems like the ones in the OP are better than Warhammer 40k.
>>98523730oh holy shit imagine having such terminal space marine brain poisoning that you don't take this sort of shit into account
>>98523945Who tops and who bottoms?
>>98524004the original art for the Tau was clearly based off the Gulf War asthetics.
>>98524060>this is what I read into an image>it matters more than the creator of the faction's own statement on the allure of the faction
This is what Tau need.
>>98523814>tarelliansthey did like 5 months ago
>>98524067Nta but why is this argument still going? You're a bit of a dipshit for taking an ad campaign so seriously>company makes shiny new models nothing like the rest of their range>ofc advertises them accordingly>anon takes this at face value and thinks that's all the faction is about decades later
>>98524037not only that, its primarch brain poisoning. truly a horrific insight into the mind of the average tertiary.
>>98524076This is what Tau need.
>>98524082this is just some random goober. I’m talking a squad of them acting as hired guns for the tau.
>>98524083>they focus all launch advertising on the mechs>erm ackshually you're taking this too serious they always focused on split armies until people started buying too many mechs and now all they do is mechsyou're a subhuman retard, never post here again
>Tau-ren
>>98524089This is what the Tau need.
>>98524090Okay hear me out>acquire 10 boxes of the Masters of the Maelstrom>sell all the models except the tarellians and barghesi>run the barghesi in packs as Kroot Hounds>Run the Tareillians as a squad of 10 Kroot CarnivoresWallah!
frickgw
>>98524089No no this is what tau need
The Tau Auxiliaries will be the creators of a virus they will unleash who will shoot you with rocket launchers. They will try to activate galactic superweapons but deliberately avoid the simple idea of cutting off a hand and using space science to keep that hand preserved given those genetic scanners clearly can't detect main activity or intent due to unwilling subjects being okay. Beware Legendary Jackal Snipers.
>>98524099>WallahSomehow this is the most offensive part of your post. Can't get good help these days ig, it's a doggy dog world out here
>Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels - TheLostBrethren>Death Company Captain (70pts)>Death Company Captain (70pts)>Death Company Captain with Jump Pack (75pts): Warlord>10x Death Company Marines (160pts)>10x Death Company Marines (160pts)>10x Death Company Marines with Jump Packs (230pts)>3x Outrider Squad (75pts)>Gladiator Lancer (160pts)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA intensifies
I always wondered why the Covenant didn't capture then lobotomize humans. They doubtfully have detailed records on human brains, but it's a long enough war of extinction with captured humans all around that they can fiddle with them until they get one that works, then shove that ass in a stasis pod.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Can someone explain to me something Im looking at old codex organizations and the 1st company says>Squads 20 Terminators or 10 Veteranswhat does that mean is it 20 Terminator squads but no stern or Vanguard squads the wording is odd is it strictly fielding of terminators so if a chapter wanted to field the 1st company they would have to choose between Vet squads or Terminators
>>98524130Look lad I gave you a solution to run your tarellian and barghesi mercenaries, you have to make your memes not be dreams. It's a doggy dog world out there, and I'm just playing double's advocate.
>>98524137because they're literally space muslims, they don't awnt to servitorize or convert you just to exterminate you because the original plot was that prophets knew ancient humans built the rings and feared for their power but 343 ruined it
>>98524145>"Is this the CEO of Games Workshop?">"Anon posted it again.">"Delay the Dark Eldar Refresh.">"I don't care if the sculpts and plastic molds are ready.">"Delay it. And Delay it by a month everytime he posts it until I say otherwise."
Space aliens are dummies. Vast majority of settings it's always the humans making super soldiers. At best you have crap like the Eldar paths, Nid mutations or their own other alternative tech trees but rarely the aliens who mastered space travel do that. Even fucking Skaven make Rat Ogors and other abominations. When's the last time an alien from Star Wars, Star Trek, or anything else did their own Muhreen project equivalent?
man these new ork releases are expensive AF
>>98524149I know your twitter feed.
>>98524153But that's retarded. If they think that then why not lobotomize them? Why would building anything mean they can't at least force humans in stasis pods that fully exist during the opening scene of CE or why not exterminate them, then use pieces of their corpses? They have some rule that dead humans are so holy that they can't cap a guy in the face or chop off an arm like other guy said, use that arm to bypass genetic scanners, or have their cake and eat it? The humans plot is retarded if they think corpse worship is an excuse.
>>98524145I would like to bring up how the thanquol soon friends poster now got thanquol and you’re still ritualposting.
>>98524127>>98524137This "plot hole" is easily explained by the covenant's religious fanaticism. They didn't care about humanity enough to learn anything about them, they thought they were on a holy mission and were just swatting away this swarm of ants who happened to be too close to their main goal. Hell, they attacked earth without even realising it was the human home world and then were shocked when they met so much resistance. They had no real strategy, no tactical planning, that's the only thing that allowed humanity to last as long as it did and at occasions gain the upper hand. If the covenant had seen humans as anything other than specks of dust to sweep up and treated them with any interest, actually taken them seriously and used them in their plans, it would've gone very differently.
>>98524170Don't think anon. Thinking for a millisecond makes everything make no sense. Remember that the first game began with the Covenant blowing holes into their own sacred Ring, spreading Flood all over the place, when the sequel establishes they both fought the parasite before and deem the place extremely holy. It's like if a bunch of Islamic terrorists thought it would be fun to blow a hole in a Mosque wall with >EBOLA-AIDS INSIDE DON'T COME IN written on it because it'd take too long to find the key.
>>98524162ah well, time to wait for christmas battleforces. I don’t think there’s any dogshit minis they can shove in this time, so it be good to get some of the new(est) boyz at minimum.
>>98524170Because the original lore was supposed to be prophets were afraid the Chosen Ones/humans would be revealed as the descendants and heirs of forerunners and all the other covenant races would switch sides because their gods were right there all along, wiping them out by glassing them and destroying the evidence keeps the corrupt religious clergy in power.
>>98524155Well the necrons did turn themselves into immortal regenerating teleporting robots, with a slight side effect. Dark eldar make all sorts of freaky mutants of their own species and others. Light eldar have special ninja training regimens and their dead ones pilot robots. Orks ARE super soldiers created by the Old Ones, and they love slapping prosthetics on themselves to jack up the power level further. Kroot genetically enhance themselves with the DNA of their victims. Uh, tau don't really have anything. The ethereals might be genetically enhanced but the tau obviously didnt do that themselves.
>>98524153The forerunners being ancient humanity is almost lamer than the retarded forerunners that 343 made
>>98524201The 2000s were a simpler time, shame you didn't get to experience it kid
>>98524096Why would the Ultramarines ally with the Tau?>>98524187>This "plot hole" is easily explained as bad writingFixedHalo is dumb
>>98524191>Don't think anon. Thinking for a millisecond makes everything make no sense. Remember that the first game began with the Covenant blowing holes into their own sacred Ring, spreading Flood all over the place, when the sequel establishes they both fought the parasite before and deem the place extremely holy. It's like if a bunch of Islamic terrorists thought it would be fun to blow a hole in a Mosque wall withDon't look at what wahhabi sect muslims want to do to holy sites in mecca lol
>>98524206I've been alive since the 80sDon't seethe because your literal kid's shooter got insulted
What's the better detachment for Tau Strike team infantry?
>>98524213You were born after 9/11, bald boy
>>98524201It's not because it was foreshadowed (see what I did there?) since the first game and fit within the narrative and tied the story together, then making "actually here's halo 4 and the forerunners are these other guys" is like taking a baseball bat to the nice little gift you wrapped up with the first few games.Like when Blizzard killed off all the cool lore characters to keep milking the franchise.
>>98524162what mean>>98524194I fear they will put a stompa in the battleforce, I don't want to spend too much before then in case they do. Need me a stompa.
>>98524221You're very desperate to keep shitposting, last free (you)>>98524222calling chief reclaimer isn't foreshadowing
>>98524196The tau thing is being noblebright and having super annoying trekkie fans.
>>98524221>>98524206Another 80s anon here, Halo was always a gay baby console shooter, chads played doom on dos
TAU ARE GAY
>>98524195That is even more retarded. Why would that work? Are they some space kingdom where someone faked a royal bloodline? The Engineers from the other games didn't get that and they were directly created a la Jokaero as an artificial techie race and though considered holy, nobody was thinking of replacing the Prophets with them. This could be easily solved by saying "This species was created just like them to be a key-race to unlocking what we need, but they're refusing their holy duty therefore we must make them fulfill their purpose even if we must fight them" or any thousands of excuses that easily meshes with the theology. One of these days the Eldar are going to infight because Orks or Jokaero were also poofed up by the Old Ones.
There was an anon ITT that asked about BlackLegionMarket a few threads ago. I needed some models for my Firstborn-only autism and bought some. Got here from the Ukraine decently fast (12 days from the moment I hit order). Got a tracking ticket.I ordered a good variety>HH chainswords and bolt pistols>10 firstborn plasma guns>Librarian>some 3rd party conversion bitsThe librarian is almost perfect. The suuuuuper thin parts like the cherub's blade are a bit deformed but otherwise 0 complaints.The 3rd party bits were 3D printed with all the supports knocked off, but with some nubs that would need cleaning up.However, two problems;The plasma guns looked like they were an old or imperfect molds because they were very clearly recasts. VERY deformed but still usableMany of the HH chainswords were bent and curvy, but they're still resin so they could possibly be corrected with hot water/steamOver all, I don't feel scammed. About the quality you'd expect from a slav recaster.
>>98524231the new trukk is about 120 AUD, new mek is about double the price of the old one, a standalone dakkarig is over 110 AUD. i know this is in shitposter dollars but thats quite a large mark up
>>98524213>I've been alive since the 80sWas Wargaming with miniatures and TTRPGs better than what they are now?Or if it is a bit of some good some bad, what has gotten better and what has gotten worse?What do you miss about old Warhammer 40k versus now and how do you feel about "fake grogs" that might just be warhammer 40k fans that are in the old good new bad phase or just liking the charm of oldhammer styled sculpts?I am a 1999 90s kid here. I thought the 90s were the best months of my life as I could just shit and cry and my parents would deal with it it all.
>>98524215None, sadly
>>98524207>le bad writing!The entire game series/setting wouldn't work without the covenant being blinded by their faith. They have superior numbers AND technology when they find humanity in the fledgling days of space exploration, they'd just wipe the floor with humans and glass every last planet. It's not bad writing, it's shlocky but integral to the plot>>98524213>literal kid's shooterDisingenuous post. Friendly reminder that shooters these days would not be the same without Gaylo, literally put rechargeable health in the form of shields on the map
>>98524246>Got here from the UkraineYour very lucky Putler didn't explode your shipment
>>98524246I'm not the requester but I'm happy you posted this. What country are you in so I can know how long it will take for it to arrive to Canada? Or at least a close approximate wait time.I always assume my package will never come because Slavs gonna Slav.
>>98524031There have been various recipes for it over the years. A very pale off-white like Pallid Wych Flesh over a grey like Rakarth Flesh seems pretty consistent though. You can use other light undercoats but you want cold tones though because anything too warm will resemble normal flesh. Cool blues or purples over warm pinks, for example.
>>98524259shup up /pol/tranny
>>98524201Only the strongest will survive https://youtu.be/GtnqI4nJqeM?si=XEQLAXOWAtKnXAow
>>98524261East coast US
>>98524222But it wasn't foreshadowed. CE had great plot points that were removed because the devs wanted to detach themselves from Marathon. They had a great idea of an eternal reincarnating hero and how each protagonist of each of their franchises was the same person, referring to the player. There was a shocking reveal where 343 Guilty Spark told MC that he was a multi-millennia year old leader who once asked him questions before. With the knowledge that MC can go Rampant and there's squads of Marines positioned to kill him, this brought huge lore implications of how the protagonist's cybernetics were enslavement protocols keeping him from discovering he's from over a thousand years ago.Then they dropped it in the next one and never brought it up. You'd think lines saying he was physically there would be a massive lore bomb but nobody cared.
>>98524253I got into 40k in 2006 and didn't really start playing until 6th edition so I don't have an opinionThe only thing I miss from the edition I started playing in is the boon table for my chaos lord, it was so fun and flavorful and the opportunity to upgrade him into a DP for free was so cool even if I never had it happen >>98524258>disingenuous postretard, it's literally been called babby's first shooter since it released because of how it casualized shooters with recharging health
>>98524270>East coast USThanks!
>>98524266That was such a good reveal from CE the sequels dropped. The protagonist was an enslaved cyborg who was alive several thousand if not millions of years ago because a robot from that long recognizes him and tells him it was HIM there. Then surprised he doesn't remember anything. This is such an interesting plot twist.
>>98524270>BLM getting to you that fast in NAlucky, it took a couple months for me but I did order a bunch of weird old shit like a hell talon so maybe they had your stuff already casted
>>98524249TRUKK>the dakkarig is 110 audI got it for 35 bucks USD, I dunno how the australian market looks but it's really just a no brainer for me to go for the offdrippings of the Armageddon box set, not paying 72 bucks for something I can get for less than half.
Plotlines that have>Baddie could do this simple explanation or simple solution but is too dumb to do itsuck. This is why Elden Ring's DLC had a shit plot.
>>98524245okay so it's like in that book written by the deception point guy with charlemagne and how Jesus banged mary magdalene and his descendants still existed and were like holy royal or some shit. But in space and for a game to encourage teens to join the military just in time for the iraq war.
The T'au need to pull the pin on the Ethereal mind dominance plot, have the Vespid slave uprising and split off all the auxilliaries out of T'au so the faction can have a cohesive visual identity that looks and markets well instead of having 80% good models and 20% dogshit abe's oddyssey rejects that all look AWFUL
>>98524275Fair enough then.>The only thing I miss from the edition I started playing in is the boon table for my chaos lordI think all people who played those older editions miss those sorts of things related to their armies that gave some leeway in having their armies more flavorful if that makes sense.What do you not miss?>that imageI need to sell the skins but the hats stay.Gotta get that money for Total War Warhammer 40k and Dawn of War 4 if they're good.Or save the Swedish economy by buying Darktide Warhammer 40k skins.I don't want to try trading the virtual items for real money to waste on this miniature hobby. Probably some TOS violations and probably not very legal too.
this is how I tau
Should the Tau be more Covenant?
>>98524275>been called babby's first shooter since it releasedI get that, but it's 2026 now and with the passage of time we can look back and see how pivotal Bungie was to shootems. Calling it a "kiddie shooter" these days is disingenuous. Mechanically we know that Halo did a lot right, competitively we saw how sweaty people could get with it, still calling it a babby game today makes me think you're mentally stuck back in the late 2000s/early 10's
>>98524245Also the old ones, or their devolved form, still exist as the Slanni in current/3rd ed 40k but elders don't care about them.
>>98524238>>98524275Dooms good but people pearl clenching it as the best shooter or most skilled shooter is retarded, Doom reeks as babys first shooter more then halo considering people cant move past it. Doom is an impressive relic and necessity in the evolution of shooters but the game isn't that hardcore Quake is arguably the game that deserves more respect then Doom does.
>>98524294>why doesn't [character/faction] do this thing I, the outside impartial viewer, deem as most optimal!?Media literacy crisis
>>98524273reincarnation is gay
>>98524306It's actually egregious that bungo basically performed an organ-harvesting operation on this IP in order to push out a hideous flop.
>>98524307>mfw flashbacks of halo 2 legendary jackal snipers>now the tau have them
>>98524273>>98524284A reincarnated being kept enslaved? I had hoped for the Ark sending him back in time, causing a loop leasing to the first activation.But early material does call him "a cyborg", and that there's facilities for training "spartan clones" full of teleporters (Chiron X), so idk, didn't play Marathon.New Spartans look like fucking transformers lmao. Imagine ditching the iconic look. I could never.
>>98524314>Media literacyWhat does this mean in the bastardized pseudo intellectual usage (usually from plebbit, poosky and xitter) versus what does it actually mean?And where is media literacy badly needed for Warhammer 40k lore understanding?Beyond the "to sell toys" meme the Transformers wiki has an article on. How they figured this one out before Warhammer 40k fans is beyond me. But maybe it is the multiple continuities they always have.
>>98524306Why does your Tau have toes, foot fetish anon?
>>98524318its fun and destiny isnt coming back
>>98524320>Faction with autoaim snipersI mean...
>>98524273>>98524323It feels a big weird that all these plot lines need >reincarnation>time travel>protag was alive a million years agojust to make sense of a single game's single mission single scene and lines. I get the games are about a giant weapon that sterilized all life in the galaxy but it's amazing what other tech the forerunners needed to have just so spark's >I REMEMBER YOU FROM THAT LONG AGO AND YOU SAID THIS TO MEwasn't dismissed as >crazy robot rambling
>>98524207>Why would the Ultramarines ally with the Tau?Dealing with nids. From memory regular space marines and Tau were either battle brothers or a step below in 6th Ed on the ally chart.
>>98524332>destiny isnt coming backvotannfags won't like this.
>>98524332>ugly>extraction gamemode>hero shooter>made by nu-bungie>deadOkay.
>>98524049Chaos may be a dominant force on the warp, but it's idol sure isn't.
>the protagonist was actually from millions of years ago and enslaved by humanity and wiped of his memoriesI have the strangest feeling this has been done before but I can't recall what did.
>>98524348Bits and fragments of that like mind wiped MCs exist in other media. Not sure about millions of years ago.
>>98524246>does metal recastsNot gonna lie I've bought some metal off resellers and ebay and sometimes I wonder if I've bought recasts without knowing.I want to purge my metal collection because I fear them getting stolen. If I just stick with metal models that got a resin failcast release then I can say my 3D printed scans resin and be "safe" from authenticity autism and if the model gets stolen I can print a new one if the LGS can't get it back.No metal 3D printers exist for the consumers as far as I know so that can't be done.Is there a model info archiving site that covers the finecast and resin released models of GW's era?Is GW phasing out resin Warhammer models because of UK laws? I suspect the mould line remover tool that turned out to be decent but not as good as nano glass files (Nano glass is for injection plastic only, not resin or metal to my knowledge) because of UK knife laws?
Is it Slaanesh to teabag corpses?
>>98524354Context please?I've been interested in trying TOR but never got into it because my PC was awful I think I have some of the paper comics set in that era though.I could use inspiration from it for my Warhammer 40k Imperial Guard guys.
>>98524334>wasn't dismissed as crazy robot ramblingOne of the core tenets of storytelling is that all info presented must be taken as true: you can have characters lie to each other or even be mistaken, but the audience MUST be aware they are working with false info, or at least explained why it was so.That's why in "Now you see me", "Ocean's 12" and other plot twist kind of movies you have flashback scenes that explain the twist to the audience.Meanwhile, in "Last Jedi", captain Holdo acts stupid in withholding information. It makes sense IF she suspected one of the protagonists to be a spy (like Finn the ex-Stormtrooper)...but the audience never gets a scene with Holdo saying explicitly "I believe one of them is a spy", so she simply looks stupid and inviting for a mutiny.You cannot lie to the audience: if Guilty spark says John was there, then he was.
>>98524307Tau players do not want more auxiliaries. The funny thing is I was interested in kroot, but similar to the eldar corsairs GW decided to make the box.... not very good. Expensive sub army to collect, and they're missing the Knarloc as a big centerpiece to make them truly competitive.Also more auxiliaries aren't really fitting in the Tau gunline/mech playstyle now, you add in the nicassar and now Tau have a psychic attack etc.
>>98524369This is why heavy rain is one of the worst stories of all time
>>98524368KOTOR isn't TOR, KOTOR 3 got cancelled and made into an MMO. It's one of the more famous reveals and just about any PC these days can play KOTOR. It's old, rather buggy, but still worth it IMO.
>>98524307Absolutely not, GW can't write it and they definetely can't model for it. Even if they could, there's no chance they're properly supporting 5-7 fully distinct and different looking alien species at once.
>>98524369Part of Holdo's problem is just being a shit commander. In IRL militaries, keeping your men adequately informed is a big enough thing that she should be removed from power for failing. They don't need to know everything but she flunks the bare minimum.The bare minimum which is>I have a planbecause Poe didn't ask anything but the plan exists. Not how it works, not what it'll take to make it work, all she needed to say was>I HAVE A PLAN, TRUST ME BROand it would've solved everything. She was so scared of a spy that apparently the very existence of her plan is too much. That if the enemy knew they weren't flying through space with their thumbs up their asses but actually had a plan, it'd be too much. There are IG commanders less incompetent.
When Grey Knights get a refresh what specifically do you want besides them just being bigger?
>>98524382I do not want them refreshed. They are perfect the way they are. I say this as someone with nearly 4k (11e) of Grey Knights I've built up since the metal minis from Codex Daemonhunters.
Is this a good classic tyranid list? Never played them>Hive tyrant>Tyrant guard x3>Hormagaunts x20>Hormagaunts x20>Melee tyranid warriors x6>Zoanthropes x3>Carnifexes x2
>>98524382I don't want them to be refreshed, I just want some new kits for them.
>>98524385They won't come and take your perfect little soldiers away, anon. They'll just make new ones for people with taste to enjoy as well.
>>98524369I am still waiting for Rian "I'm not a shit writer I just subvert expectations" Johnson to say that purple hair was meant to be a terrible leader. And everyone who thought she was a good commander is wrong. The way she is portrayed is beyond stupid and is an example of how NOT to write a good female leader. I think Black Library has been having stories with female leaders in Warhammer 40k and Age of Sigmar that give of purple hair lady vibes. It was stupid then and will be stupid now.>>98524373I loved the "shaun" glitch from that. And that game is why I like women with short hair cuts. Was that game so bad it is good or so bad it becomes inspiring like the other David Cage stuff?I have a preference for the classy shorthair cut.I unironically want a Warhammer 40k video game with the mechanics of Heavy Rain and Detroit because David Cage tries to write deep compelling stories, but they usually get fumbled badly. Detroit at least had a good foundational concept.I want to see Warhammer 40k games with David Cage's magic just to laugh at how bad they are. And see retards defend the bad writing and pull media literacy cards you wouldn't believe.What would David Cage's hypothetical Warhammer 40k game even be? A female hive ganger escaping from her world? I don't even know if I can guess right because I'm not on David Cage's higher plane of intelligence.I imagine that the female lead will get an ugly face because for some reason attractive female faces are verboten in video games. Also I am waiting for Darktide's twist to be that the Ivan inquisitor is a traitor. And for the Moebian Domain to all be lost when Darktide shuts down inevitably because I'm too poor to buy all the skins.
>>98524385>nearly 4k (11e) of Grey KnightsWhy are GK players like this? 4K points of the same few units all painted the one colour would drive me insane
>>98524403>people with tasteDon't make yourself so obvious.
Give scarred, dominant female leader like this.
>>98524406One more thing. I've been pondering the idea of looking for third party STL bits to create heavy weapons team where the weapons are held like the way that hive scum concept art is holding that machine gun.I am unsure if the heavy stubber should be double barrel (twin linked) or just one barrel.I am also unsure if the 50mm bases (if I can fit them) should be two dudes holding the same heavy weapon or just one dude with the weapon and the other carrying the ammo with a big backpack or suit case held looking ammo case or both.
>>98524406>Was that game so bad it is good or so bad it becomes inspiring like the other David Cage stuff?one of your characters is constantly wondering who the killer could be (in his own thoughts) and goes on to murder somebody WHILE YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF HIM but you as the player somehow does not see that happen and he then stumbles in on his own murder and acts horrifiedAnd he's not the unreliable narrator or a split personality, he's literally just lying to the player in his own mind
>>98524414They do shit like this and chuds Q.Q anyway
>>98524424He voice fucking sucks, its why everyone hates her.
>>98524422I recall one of Battlefield 1's story missions was a story told by the player to the audience, which ends with him admitting he could've lied, killed witnesses he says he saved, and ending with>The version I told is true. I wouldn't lie to you, would I?which calls everything into question retroactively.
>>98524424She has an annoying forced literally who eastern European voice. Chuds are valid in criticizing this female 40k commissar.Also I didn't know she has a scar on her face until I saw that.Oddly enough the angry tech priest woman somehow is endearing with her always angry and asshole personality. Is it because it is deliberate?
>>98524432What if she had a voice like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDqZZMWWw5c
>>98524424She demands respect from people not under her chain of command, instead of earning it. She acts like an absolute bitch to the retinue and troops of an Inquisitor and it makes zero sense at all.
Calling it here for tonight, should be done tomorrow. Gonna be my college submission since the defiler is proving to be a more long term project.
>>98524438Aren't Commissars able to execute inquisitors and generally those above them on the Imperium's pecking order? I'm not sure to be honest.I do find her annoying because of her voice. My favorite voice is actually the tech priest enginseer guy's voice. He is well intended even if his speech impediment is lengthy. He even refers to mortals as "pre-servitors" but it feels like he is just being formal and nice to them.
>>98524438>She acts like an absolute bitch to the retinue and troops of an InquisitorPenal* troops, anon. There's an important distinction there, everyone treats the rejects like dirt and the Inquisitor won't care. Also>chuds cry about 40K getting too "woke" and soft>buhh why this commissar being so hard assed!?
>>98524379Very much so. If there was a plan, the audience should've been told.>>98524406Purple hair is like animals displaying black and yellow markings. "Dangerous". "Beware".
>>98524451>Penal* troops, anon. There's an important distinction there, everyone treats the rejects like dirt and the Inquisitor won't care. AlsoIf you were an Inquisitor that could put worlds to burn and had authority just under that of the High Inquisitors and the High Lords above them, would you let some trumped up political officer try to tell your minions and penal troops what they can and can not do? It makes zero sense, she would be at most a liason between the Acolyte in charge who I forgot his name and the Guard forces.
I just found out my LGS reopened after a move and I was thinking of taking my army out for my first ever game sometime next month. I'm trying to learn the rules right now, but what extra gear do I need to buy in terms of dice, rulers, pen & paper etc? Also how much flak will I get for storing my dudes in tupperware?
>>98524452>Purple hair is like animals displaying black and yellow markings. "Dangerous". "Beware".I know. Dyed hair in general can be that. But the female nose ring is the real indicator that she will be trouble and not the fun kind. Maybe in bed fun, but the unfun trouble may make it not worth it in the end.I just wonder what the "male nosering" is. I might even be wearing the one cosmetic choice that signals people that i am bad news when I just want to play Warhammer 40k at the LGS.It used to be the Reddit fedora, but that's mostly the signs of a pseudo intellectual narcissist.
>>98524476>I just wonder what the "male nosering" isRed baseball cap.
>>98524466My little anon, you did play the game right? All the way up to level 30? Every cutscene drives home the point of how little the inquisitor cares about you because you're all ex-prisoner dregs of society. No, he isn't going to give a rat's ass about a COMMISSAR (aka very high ranking imperial) talking down to you.
>We discovered our gods and want to wipe them outBoring>We discovered our gods and want to breed them, becoming one with them, becoming gods ourselvesMuch better. There should be programs extracting blood for transfusions, grafting their limbs onto yourself, mating with them or mixing genetics. Especially if they witness a degraded version of their gods and believe they can re-ascend.Ancient Greeks had many different ideas including that that humans can be raised into godhood like Hercules or that without any theory of evolution, that gods are a further level than humans or that one way or another humans can progress into godhood. There needs to be more settings of mortals implanting pieces of their gods or objects of worship into themselves to become like them.
>>98524414Graves needed long hair like Balalaika or Olivia Armstrong and nothing will change my mind
>>98524466NTAYRTI think the best thing about Darktide is it's music and the possible retconning of ogryns from being absolute retards to just Forrest Gump idiots in that they can get shit done.Also the community got it right with trying to make ogryns have funny names and looks with their cosmetics. I always liked that even if the name isn't funny I appreciate the effort.What other music fits in with Warhammer 40k besides the usual church choir with modern music sounds anyways?
>>98524484Assuming you aren't trolling. I guess being bald with a lighter skin tone is also a red flag? If I do get unexpectedly sucker punched by some autist thinking I'm a skinhead because I gave up on my unsalvageable hair loss could I sue for assault? I wouldn't be surprised if this happened before at any LGS.Warhammer 40k players and DnD players can be very autistic in assuming the worst out of just a small unrelated thing.>>98524487>those winged skulls>silverWere they always silver in that artwork when I thought they were white? I hate painting white and bone because the paint always came out chunky no matter what I've tried.
>>98524515>I guess being bald with a lighter skin tone is also a red flag?And being having no chin.
what were the defining competitive lists of (your) faction through editions?>4th editionsniperfex>5th editiontervigon spam and doom of malantai in a pod (all proxies btw)>6th/7thflyrant spam with twin devourers >8th/9thI honestly don't remember>10th/11thhonestly nids have a decent variety of lists now but I'm mostly seeing norn spam and hard tailoring for objectives
>>98524532Markerlights
>>98524333still pissed GW made all drones tokens instead of real units, and I dont even play tau. dumbest shit they've ever done to a faction.
>>98524517The chin isn't really a cosmetic choice. But shaving one's head is more of a cosmetic choice like the nosering worn by problematic women.But I do believe it is best to avoid rainbow lads when it comes to wanting to play Warhammer 40k or DnD 5e or minimize interaction. The chances of existing in a way they can see as problematic and them freaking out because the LGS is a concentration of autists is way too high. It is just not a worthwhile risk. Even if it is the autist's fault for assuming the worst and responding accordingly (probably from mistreatment conditioning in real life and online) the LGS will still side with them.
>>98524553What's with images without text being posted here? I saw it start happening around 2022-2024 I think. >anywaysI think melta weapons are one of the most inconsistently portrayed thing in Warhammer 40k. The most inconsistently portrayed thing in Warhammer 40k (yes HH counts) is the mark 2 power armor's helmet being in a fixed position. No model or art piece ever portrayed that.Also has GW ever addressed the difference between stubbers and autoguns? Is "autogun" sort of an umbrella term for all projectile based weapons if lasguns don't count as projectile and instead laser based weapons?
>>98524555Malding chinless faggot detected.
>>98524562as I understand it autoguns are just more complicated weapons with a higher rate of fire.
>>98524489Greeks believed everything went from good to bad, then from bad to worse, what we now know as entropy. A golden age, then a silver one, then a bronze one...Humans never rose to the level of Heracles; it was gods who watered down to his. But breeding with gods, I don't think there's any ugly goddesses, dayum.
>>98524517>Being having no chinESL jeet faggot.
>>98524564ah so you were trolling all along. Here's your (you).Spend it wisely.>>98524569I've read lore pieces where autoguns are caseless projectile weapons and stubbers are our modern guns where there's a case to be ejected after the bullet or "stub" is fired.But bullet got used in a Warhammer+ animation episode I think called "bullets" so everything is up in the air.And the distinction could have been fake lore put into the warhammer 40k wiki/lexicanum and people just ran with it and maybe the nuGW writers ran with it too.Any cases of that sort of thing?Lastly I vaguely recall 40k book pages detailing different kinds of autogun rounds. Like how boltguns get different kinds of rounds.If autogun and stubber rounds having different kinds of harder hitting rounds is canon as in not retconned away yet does this mean that those guns can hit harder than a lasgun, but lasguns are "better" because their "mags" recharge on their own after usage making logistics a more tolerable nightmare?I do badly want to know what false 40k lore with no sources just shoved into the wikis exist that are still peddled to this day that may have even made it into current canon.
What is the benefit of running hormagaunts in unit of 20 instead of 10? Aside from being slightly cheaper.
>>98524585NTA but I think the answer is>people don't carein-universe or out. Stubbers and autoguns aren't anywhere as valued as Lasguns or stronger besides maybe a Heavy Stubber every now and then. Thus classifications on them get really, really wonky.
>>98524589>people don't careThat might be the real answer. Both in universe and in real life.
>>98524585>does this mean that those guns can hit harder than a lasgun, but lasguns are "better" because their "mags" recharge on their own after usageThis has always been the trade-off yes, though las cells don't recharge on their own. They just have a decently high capacity of shots (unless it's hotshot, which involves an overclocked cell pack) and can be plugged into power or thrown in a fire to charge. And all of this extra granularity is forgotten about in the actual 40K tabletop since autos and las share the same stats at such a zoomed out, higher power level view. In Necromunda and the RPGs it's definitely a consideration whether to go with ol' reliable las - decent damage, great ammo consumption - or solid projectile - varied ammo types, but have to manage buying, carrying, swapping out ammo. The RPGs even have fire selectors and expanded mags you can fit autoguns with.
>>98524589>besides maybe a Heavy Stubber every now and then.Why primaris, of all people, bother with .50 cals when they got literal bolters.Screw it, I'm going to pretend they are bolters with high velocity barrels or something
>>98524562>Is "autogun" sort of an umbrella term for all projectile based weaponsYes. Same as stub gun and stub thrower. Some of them are caseless, some are not, calibres vary, magazine size, etc. Its a catch all term the same as most of the 40k games don't distinguish between different patterns of bolt gun, or if the bolt gun is held by a marine or a normal human.
>>98524614>though las cells don't recharge on their own.They do if you leave them in the sun or next to the stove.
>>98524614>>98524617Thanks anons!I now wonder if explosive ballistic rounds for autoguns/stubbers in 40k would be referred to as "micro-bolts" because they explode like boltgun rounds do.
r8 my list>CSM - fellhammer siege host>Heretic astartes daemon prince>sorcerer in terminator armor >3 5x Legionaries>2 5x chaos terminators>chaos land raider>3 helbrutes>fellblade
>>98524532>CSM2nd - Dunno, meta wasn't really a thing but Veterans loaded with wargear were strong as hell3rd - (Post-codex) Daemon prince(s) with Dreadaxe and Lash of Submission + Terminators with combi-meltas4th - Daemon prince(s) with Dreadaxe and Lash of Submission + Terminators with combi-meltas5th - Daemon prince(s) with Dreadaxe and Lash of Submission + Terminators with combi-meltas6th - Oops all cultists + Terminators with combi-meltas7th - who the fuck cares8th - didn't play9th - didn't play10th - Death Guard11th - Defilers by a mile, that data sheet is shamefully bullshit and I say that as a life-long CSM player. More nerfs maybe coming, but otherwise CSM are a pretty diverse army when it comes to what's hot. Cultist spam seems popular atm, but I just don't like 'em.
>>98524615Guilliman is muh logistics man. Either he wants something easily locally sources wherever, or he wants them to mow down Grots, cultists, and gaunts and leave Heavy Bolters to bigger targets.
>>98524585>autoguns are caseless projectile weaponsThis is one of those things that some writer just throws into the lore because it sounds cool and futuristic, but then you see official art that contradicts it because nobody is communicating these autistic details to the artists.
>>98524635>some writer just throws into the lore because it sounds cool and futuristic>some writer just throws into the lore because it sounds cool and futuristicIs this the red lasguns Dawn of War did all over again and people and even GW rolled with it? Now GW wants them all yellow star wars blasts.I'm not upset with it. I just think it was a little weird that GW chose now to be trying to reinforce some consistency from lore to art and presentation in media when previously it was all up in the air so that confusion was "immersive" like the Imperium's government bureaucracy being a nightmare of contradictions and made up lies.
Would it be distasteful to 'counts as' a Castraferrum Dreadnought as a Custodes Venerable Contemptor? Though I doubt the latter will stick around any much longer when there's now proper dreads finally, I am also finding the idea of one guy having to deal with a budget cut mildly amusing and someone has probably done it before anyway.
>>98524624I don't remember all the special ammo types from games like Necromunda and Inquisitor but there were at least >Dumdum>Man Stopper >Flechette in the noguns british way of the time. There might be more from the FFG role playing games, haven't looked closely at them.
>>98524659its a lot shorter.. maybe if it had a wild base to lift that short king.
>>98524089An evil rapist?
>>98524630If you were pro logistics, you would standardize ammo instead of adopting yet another caliber
>>98524621>erm ackshuallyThat's not "on their own" then is it? They need some form of external power/heat to recharge, dingus
>>98524635Autogun is just a catch all term for automatic solid round rifle. Its not like all the Frag grenades in the entire galaxy are the same either.
>>98524674Turns out, everything in the universe is indeed effected by something so we can say you are responding out of my external power over you instead of just realizing its a fairly common turn of phrase. You are not as alone as you think pedant anon!
>>98524646The color of lasgun fire never mattered much to me, the color of a laser is determined by its wavelength and saying that different patterns fire at different wavelengths is far from the silliest way to handwave a discrepancy in the media. However, it's explicitly stated in lore that they fire beams of focused light. I don't know who thought making them just look like tracers was a good idea.
>>98524672Different ammo for different jobs, especially with one way easier to make than the other. Armies today still have intermediate cartridges, full size, and more. Some in Iraq bought PKMs from locals and mounted them on vehicles because they and 7.62x54R were plentiful and used them alongside 5.56.
>>98523521Its a real page, but its not a book. Its a letter to the editor type thing of a scifi anthology or magazine making fun of pointlessly idiosyncratic / anachronistic language to the point it becomes pointless dribble. It says letter right at the top, has AI made people unable to read titles or prefaces? If you read sci fi there are tons of forwards and bits like this at the beginning of these anthology paperbacks which you can now find for 10 cents in the disposal bin of your nearest library (which I have many times done and will continue to do so). When the writer uses the word Google here they aren't referencing the company but the number, a Google (though it was originally spelled Googol the former spelling became more common in American English).H. N. Swanson was a publisher / anthology collector / magazine editor in the 30s and 40s who published works from some of the most famous american sci fi authors of all time such as F. Scott Fitzgerald.The letter is written by Raymond Chandler, who also worked with Swanson, whom I haven't read much of because I preferred 50s sci fi tremendously (I hate to admit I was a clark fan).
>>98524666Does it have to be the same or equivalent height for compfagging? I also thought that in this edition, cover is kind of infinite height as well? Correct me either way and true LOS I imagine is still a thing, but when considering that GW puts a tactical rock on their dreads that I'm not going to count on coming with the kit, it is indeed going to require some creative compensation to do so.Apart from that, the Multi-Melta I could just grab off some spare bits off from a 30k vehicle ugprade sprue. Would need a spare Contemptor to get a Gravis multi-melta, but then I'd just a regular Contemptor.
>>98524708its not so much a hard rule as it is a gentleman's agreement kinda deal. everyone I know is 100% cool with using alternative models, even in competitive environments, as long as the models follow three simple rules:>roughly the same size>on the correct base>has approximately the same loadoutI use pic related as Navy Breachers, one guy has a meltagun, the rest have "gun" and "close combat weapon". Haven't had any model disallowed at any event, even super majors.
>>98524472Check to see if they have a facebook or discord, so you can mention that you're still in your first few games. There might be a learner's league to join, or even someone who will do a demo game with you.Tupperware is fine but you might want to look into some foam or packing peanuts. Also just get a real case, you can get the nice wood/metal ones with magnetic trays for reasonable prices. I use the Onuliss brand ones but they're all the same thing, I have 4 stacked up with all my armies, they're very convenient for storage and transport and you can see which is which at a glance.>>98524390That's totally fine. Hive tyrants don't really need the guard and the guard are actually slower than the tyrants and a unit can only move as fast as the slowest model so that's one thing to consider.This is a good list for just mindlessly running forward which is honestly a based way to play nids but consider one or two small units to sit on an objective somewhere, every single disposition has at least one mention of objectives on their missions, even purge.>>98524368kotor1, koto2, and swtor are all wonderful games from an era where bioware was still making good games. Play them in order and don't spoil yourself beforehand.>>98524450They are not free to like they're free to execute civilians or Astra Militarum personnel, since the Inquisition is outside of their chain of command. They couldn't execute Navy, Astartes, Ministorum, Rogue Traders, etc either.However, people should always remember that technically not being allowed to do it doesn't mean they're not going to shoot you right in the head if they actually see you committing outright chaos worship or something whack like that. Even a Warrant of Trade won't save you if they catch right in the act of banging a deamonette or something obvious.>>98524451You're not penal legion anymore, you were all promoted to members of the warband at the end of the story campaign.She's also rude directly to Rannick.
Space Marines are the best representation of autism, primarchs included, they are all 18 shades of autism (yes even your precious sanguinius is in the spectrum)
>>98524688>calling me a pedant>after anon erm ackshually'd with a pedantic takeShitposter-kun...
>>98524756>examples from books about the subject are pedantry >but whatever you're up to with the difference between being left on their own in the sun or left on their own meaning nothing ever touches or sees it at all isn't lol okay totally not shitposting-at-all-kun.
horus didn't have autism doe
>>98524690>>98524646They only look like tracers for some fancy artwork. They just have a big ass muzzle flash and then the actual beam is a very short burst of invisible light because some light is invisible to the human eye. If they shot a solid red dawn of war beam then the silencers IG snipers for long-las guns use would be fucking useless lmao.>>98524585Lasguns have always been used by the IG specifically because it makes logistics way more managable and wether or not they are more effective than a regular gun has never really been confirmed, I think they are around the same strength given everything we see from tabletop rules and lore>>98524691Yea but the Imperium has been producing heavy bolters for marines/sisters/guard for 10k years they should have no issue with ammo to need to open up seperate supply lines for an inferior gun. Its more hassle to do that then to just keep making heavy bolter rounds.
>>98524750True, particularly Horus
>>98524750pretty sure perturabo had assburgers or whatever you call extra strength autism
all of them were spergoid fucksthe emperor the greatest of all
army for this feel?youtube.com/watch?v=9Ebdpv0KOlM>hard mode>no space marines
>>98524725Well, fair enough. Verisimilitude I'd feel is still important at least spiritually. I know one guy around here uses various kinds of orks kitbashed to represent completely different Kill Teams from other factions.1d4/6c had this example of a GK Contemptor being a stand-in for Dreadknights for the longest time, of which I imagine is just for lamenting since it's not the correct base, though it does use rocks to get a bit of extra height.
>>98524773Methinks IG are just everywhere to the point asking them for ammo is easy as pie. They may find it flattering too that their arms will be used by marines.
>>98524805But the IG uses heavy bolters very heavily and as a standardized weapon? GW only recently started slapping heavy stubbers on some vehicles. Heavy weapon teams use heavy bolters instead of stubbers and leman russ sponsons are all heavy bolters.Makes 0 sense the top of the line super soldiers would use a worse gun
I have Hellions now. I just need a haemonculus, some scourges and a voidraven to complete the set.
>>98524805The Browning M2 is one of the earlier STC schematics to be recovered on Terra before the great Crusade. Some dare to whisper in furtive tones that the weapon predates the Emperor himself, a ubiquitous weapon even in the Dark Age of Technology yet matches none of the design standards of that time. While its true age is a subject of debate, its effectiveness and versatility are without question.
>>98524773>wether or not they are more effective than a regular gun has never really been confirmedThis is a very tabletop take, outside of the core 40K wargame we've had plenty of info regarding auto vs las. The answer is that both are generic terms encompassing a massive range of guns of differing manufacturing and marks, so neither is definitively better than the other and it all boils down to what's available and the local logistics situation.
>>98524814IG also uses heavy stubbers very often. They have more of them than heavy bolters. Past books have said they got more than double the heavy stubbers.
>trying to kitbash a female felarch>fur cloak blocks ponytailoof
>>98523578>>98523589>>98523737>1953>Mentions 'Google'>referees to Google as 'He'>Googol, sometimes spelt Google, is a number written as a 1 followed by a hundred 0s>There are dozens of other scientific and/or smart sounding words in the text>The point of the text is to mock the way shitty sci-fi authors just throw about scientific jargon as fillerHurr durr must be fake!
When named characters get upgraded to primaris, why is their equipment named the same as before even though it's clearly a different object?
>>98523532One of my friends bought the crucible books for those rules and I bought the eye of terror books for apocalypse rules.Between us we decided to never buy another 40k rules expansion, they're about as well thought out and supported as a white dwarf supplement
My shitty berserker
>>98524864He alright, try painting the lenses it will make a huge difference.
man, even scans of finecrap are pretty roughthis shit really was the worst
Besides the colors included in getting started/combat patrol set, which citadel paints are good buy for Goff look and Ork skin and general Ork scrap metal/paintjob bits? Ordering from a site where paints are discounted, so thinking about taking advantage of the opportunity. Recommendations?
>>98524867I did paint his lenses
>>98524878Oh and these are the paints in set– 1 Abaddon Black (Base)– 1 Orruk Flesh (Base)– 1 Runelord Brass (Base)– 1 Leadbelcher (Base)– 1 Zandri Dust (Base)– 1 Wraithbone (Base)– 1 Mephiston Red (Base)– 1 Mournfang Brown (Base)– 1 Dawnstone (Layer)– 1 Agrax Earthshade (Shade)– 1 Armageddon Dust (Texture)
Can't find the book that says it but the Imperial Munitorum Manual says heavy stubbers are the most common long-range anti-personnel weapon.
>>98524246Damn, I've only purchased from wartable before and their recasts are pretty shit, my rhino doors were about 90% the required size and looked awful. I'll try black legion next
>>98524814Heavy Stubbers are everywhere, and can even be made man portable. There are clear use cases for them.
>>98524881I like himGive his blade some blood
>>98524562>I think melta weapons are one of the most inconsistently portrayed thing in Warhammer 40k.How so? It blasts the target with heat, melting it. What other portrayals are there?>The most inconsistently portrayed thing in Warhammer 40k (yes HH counts) is the mark 2 power armor's helmet being in a fixed position.Considering beyond the original RT article (back when not even all the models portrayed it with a fixed helmet), the helmet being fixed hasn't really been brought up since, I think we can just ignore that part.>No model or art piece ever portrayed that.But they did.>Also has GW ever addressed the difference between stubbers and autoguns?Since like Rogue Trader. Stubbers are just 20th century firearms analogues while autoguns are caseless future guns. Until the designers forgot all about that and started making the two interchangeable to suit their visual needs, rather than what the fluff said.
>>98524883>most common>only ever portrayed as a tertiary weapon on vehicles sporting at least one heavy bolter Admech and Space Marines pack more heavy stubbers than IG these days.
>>98524906Retardo, that's because guard players are choosing the heavy bolter upgrade over stubbers.
>>98524916Can you give an example where heavy stubber and heavy bolter are mutually exclusive options? Most IG vehicles have a heavy bolter on them as a standard secondary weapon (on the hull or sponsons) while the heavy stubber is a separate uprade for the pintle.
>>98524892Tried but it always comes out blurry
>>98524895>How so? It blasts the target with heat, melting it. What other portrayals are there?NTA but he's probably talking about how depictions of melta actually firing tend to be weird. Sometimes its more like a beam, sometimes its more like a flamer, and sometimes its a weird heat wave gun
>>98524906The average IG regiment mows down cultists or no-name xenos. The players choosing for against relatively equal armies is an abnormal case.
>>98524928I dunno, they all look like heat to me.
>pokes head in>Orks look like they’re gonna dominate for the next few months Cool…I’ll check back in when CSM or World Eaters get their book
>>98524943Does anyone in your local meta play Orks though?
Chaos Xenos
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>>98524262Thanks! This is awesome!
should I prooont a chaos warhound
>>98525012Denied.
>>98524938Not any of the prior anons, you're being obtuse. Melta has always had the most variation between firing a cone or straight line, exactly how far, how the tech works. This is most important in vidya ofc, just see the latest depictions - SM2 has it act like a shotgun, HD2 is a much longer range straight and continuous lance of heat.
>>98524943Who?
>patiently wait for the new defiler to come back in stock>gw decides to price hike it
>>98525071Should have FOMO'd 3 of them, like all the other good Defiler bois.
Odds of the hammerfall FINALLY getting buffed this edition?
>>98525051>3rd party video games depict the melta differently>thus GW's depiction is inconsistentOk.>Melta has always had the most variation between firing a cone or straight lineCan you show GW examples of this? Closest I can think of is 2e Dreadnought multi-meltas being able to fire it as a heavy flamer and that's specifically mentioned as an alternative firing mode for that specific weapon.
Is the sequel to the cringe and the reddit any good? Been looking for something to listen to.
>>98525081I got the audio book and it's been great so far.
>>98525081If the first book was cringe and reddit why would you even consider the second one?
>>98525122What can I say I like cringekino
Been playing with my little men for a few months at 1000 points but my friends have recently bought up to 2000 with tyranids and orks what would be the best route to expand from these units I already have?TyphusLord of VirulenceTallyman10x Plague Marines3x Deathshroud Terminators5x Blightlord Terminators10x Poxwalkers6x Nurglings1x Beast of Nurgle2x Myphitic Blight-HaulerChaos Rhino
>>98525071>tfw lgs is stocked on defilers>get preferential pricing to 77 quid/104usdalready got more enjoyment out of it than last for games i bought and I haven't even played on a table with it yet
>>985251263 defilers or 3 guos
>>98525081try reddit crawler carl
>>98525153Woah I like cringe but not that much
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