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I'm glad firstborn manlets are finally out of the game, gr*y kn*ghts excepted
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
40k tw news today?
Is it pronounced like Hruhdd or Hrood?
Post armies.
quick question - when scoring "kill enemy units", does the entire attached unit (including leaders) need to be destroyed in order to get the points?Or is a bodyguard unit counted as killed for scoring when it separates itself from the leader?Also, if only the leader is left, can i still use "heal/resurrect bodyguard models" stratagems and get my soldiers back (since it started the game as a single unit), or is the leader split off completely when the bodyguards die?
>After the DG point changes I've gone from 2000pts to 1975ptsT-thanks GW.
>thread questionObviously have to mention this one
haters will call the redemptor a downgrade and never even consider the possibility that their AuDHD is making them resistant to change.
>>98571263>12Dogshit.
hellblasters
Be honest with me bros, did I fuck up picking black primer if I'm not going to zenithal? Is grey or a basecoat color primer like blue/purple the way to go? I sprayed down a helmet as a test and it looks fine but it feels almost impossible to see any details on it when I want to paint, it all looks black regardless of how close I put a light to it.
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>>98571263Anon use this better quality one
>>98571266>12Literally what are you saying?
>>98571265It is literally a downgrade in every sense, bigger does not mean better. Look at all the design differences that fucked up the original sillhouette. It looks like a fat faggot with cankles.
>>98571269I like what you’ve done with these boys, nice scheme all around.
>>98571269Love the superheated plasma coils. The traditional blue is boring as shit.
ETA on Ork Nobz release?
>>98571265>righthumble, powerful, imposing, beautiful, soulful>leftpretentious, full of hot air, children's action figure, dogshit, sovlless
>>98571283>sallyfag doing some half-decent volumetric highlightslmao he's a better painter than most people here at this point, who would've thought
>>98571265If I wanted a super articulated dread I'd pick up a contemptor or leviathan.>AuDHDMust be cozy cruising through life projecting your own inadequacies onto the people you disagree with. Not sure why you didn't stick with the good old "nostalgia" instead.
>>98571254>when scoring "kill enemy units", does the entire attached unit (including leaders) need to be destroyed in order to get the points?Yes.>Or is a bodyguard unit counted as killed for scoring when it separates itself from the leader?This is what it was in 10th edition, its changed now.
>The strategium doors opened with the groan of an ancient tomb.>Russ entered.>Behind him came the MAPwolves.>Thirty warriors.>Eight feet tall.>Gene-forged murder made flesh.>Each wore Mark III plate beneath a colossal, reinforced omni-diaper.>No one spoke of the omni-diapers.>To speak of them was to invite death.>Russ looked upon his sons.>“Brothers,” he growled. “The hour is upon us.”>A warrior named Hrothgar Wet-Fang slammed a fist against his chestplate.>“FOR THE ALLFATHER.”>“For Fenris,” another whispered.>Russ raised Mjalnar.>“Activate the omni-diapers.”>Thirty rune-lights turned green.>THOOM.>THOOM.>THOOM.>Ancient mechanisms awakened beneath ceramite and wolf-pelt.>Hrothgar’s eyes widened.>“Primarch…”>“Do not fight it,” Russ said.>The Wolf King stared toward the battlefield, where ten thousand traitors awaited them beneath a burning sky.>“A warrior who fears disgrace has already disgraced himself.”>Silence.>Then came the hiss of thirty simultaneous pressure seals.>Russ smiled.>“Now we are ready.”>The MAPwolves began to howl.>Across the valley, the enemy heard them.>Some fled.>Others prayed.>None understood.>Russ charged.>“FOR FENRIS!”>Thirty omni-diapers reached maximum operational capacity.>The rout lasted eleven minutes.
>>98571250I need to update it but here is most of my SoB
>>98571281>>98571283thanks. I'm bad at both types of plasma effect but this looked nicer from 6' away. got lazy at the end, can't stand batch painting even when it's a simple unit of 5.
My models were destroyed in an unfortunate accident (basement flooded). Some of those models I've had for over 20 years. Life fucking sucks sometimes. Time to begin the process of rebuilding my collection.
>>98571290>N-no uHe owned you
>>98571233My custom chapter is red and black with gold trim...
>>98571302>HeNice try samefag
>>98571302>heSo you're autistic AND retarded
>>98571299Sorry to hear that, fren
>>98571273I never noticed this absolute chad unit in the background here, holy shit. Almost 30 years later and I'm still discovering new levels of kino not previously thought possible in John Blanche's works.
>>98571299my basement also flooded, but luckily i only lost my childhood photos.
>>98571299I had the same thing happen to my comic book collection, thousands of issues lost like tears in the rain. It sucks, but life goes on.
>>98571306>>98571310>S-samefag!!!Lmao, he REALLY hit too close to home
>>98571292thanksdamn, that means Purge Foe is even worse than i though
>>98571219Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was "Defeated foes/trophies" and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my August collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's votehttps://strawpoll.com/PbZqbJNYbyN
After seeing how much Ork and Space Marine got Legend'd I am very happy that I spent zero money on this edition. I knew not the jump in until I saw this and now I am officially not continuing with this edition.
>>98571298Naw they look good, better than when I tried it for sure.
>>98571250So pleased with my girls
>>98571322>doubling down
>>98571311Thanks. At least they'll be included in the insurance payout because a few years ago I had them appraised specifically for insurance purposes. So I should be able to rebuy my models once the claim is completely settled.
>>98571327>>98571283Collage mini
>>98571292>>Or is a bodyguard unit counted as killed for scoring when it separates itself from the leader?>This is what it was in 10th edition, its changed now.This fucked me in my last game. Two characters in a unit. Bodyguards got destroyed. Characters weren't in coherency, both in base to base contact with different enemy units so couldn't consolidate together. RIP bozo.
>>98571338Yes that's what you're doing trying to cry samefag, but you have nothing else to fall back on so it's pretty understandable why you're crying this hard
>>98571265The Redemptor doesn't quite fill the same design space OR aesthetic space. The Castraferrum was a downsized Contemptor for use in CQC environments or boarding ops. The Redemptor is an upscaled Contemptor for fire support on full-scale battlefields.They should have let boxnoughts join Intercessor squads as Leaders to make them less squishy while footslogging. Give it a special rule that you can put it before infantry when rolling saves. That way the Intercessors can screen the Dread from AT fire, and the Dread can screen the Intercessors from AP fire.
>>98571341>I had them appraised specifically for insurance purposesI have never thought of doing this, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
>>98570600That's what I'm thinking. These point changes turn guard from>infantry screening for tanks that group up to punch into enemy linesto>tanks clearing the field for infantry to walk between objectivesI don't like it.>>98570615The Vanquisher has heavy on its main gun, so it has to sit back and be a sitting duck to get the most out of it, according to GW. They're stupid and don't know how tanks work.They think they're meant to be heavy cavalry that run down the middle and duke it out with each other, not as heavy gun trucks that rain hell down on everything in front of them. That's why the Vanquisher is so cheap despite being the best one.I do fully expect to see Dorn commanders leading LR Vanquishers on every guard table soon though, they're clearly both meant to be long range vehicles and can both hold their own against infantry and armor.
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>>98571349>complain about no u>does a no u 5 minutes laterI'm having fun rn
>>98571361why is helmet and shoulderpad unpainted
>>98571365Yes please keep melting down over being called autistic on 4chan
>>98571250Here’s a squad. Still working on my army. What do you guys think the plasma gun should be colored as? I was thinking grey for the body and a dirty silver for the nozzle area.Also yes I fucked up the squad leader’s headset
>>98571367NTA but they are painted.
>>98571327A small trophy, for a humble commander
>>98571380T'au don't seem like they'd take trophies at all, it's too egotistical a practice
>>98571367Supposed to look like unpainted stone statues. Not really sure it works for the spooky helmet, might have to repaint it to the normal warm white in the future (>>98571269)
>>98571383Luckily you can do whatever you want with them.
>>98571265I like that they have more room to customize and they’re much more intimidating on the table top. Think I’ve got like 12 of them painted.
>>98571383yeah, they're more likely to add an epithet to their name rather than take a physical trophy.
>>98571400>12 redemptors
>centurions squatted>suppressors turned into inceptorsYou served with honor. Your duty is now ended. May you rest in the display case in peace.
>>98571375>plasma gun should be colored assilver for the normal bits to go alongside the barrels of your lasguns, black for the casing or any grippy bits. You want it to feel more "high tech" than the wood-stocked lasguns around it, so you want black plastic grips and the black casing would look more "imported" (and therefore higher tech) than matching it to the lasguns. Drill the muzzle out too if you really want, not too deep but just enough to make it have an indentation.>fucked up the squad leader's headsetYou can bend it back, the discoloration obviously goes away under paint. If you're afraid of snapping it, apply heat first or just glue it after it snaps. If you're afraid of melting it, test your heating method on a leftover piece from the kit that's about as thick as the antenna; I know there's another head with one in the kit, and there's a few other greebles on the sprue that are pretty close.
>>98571265It should enhance the currect dreadnought range, not replace it. It's too different from what dreadnoughts have been before. The model isn't the worst thing though.
>>98571412It’s a half of them are Brutalis
army painter paints look washed out.. my goat... my goat is washed...going back to AK and never looking back
>HAHA GW SAYS I CAN'T PLAY WITH YOU ANYMORE RIP GUYShow did you f*cking "people" ever arrive at this sorry state
>>98571427All the same chapter? Pics plz, I want to believe
>>98571435It’s two chapters but I can’t really post them right now sorry.
>>98571265I don't hate the Redemptor as a model, but I hate it as a Warhammer model. It doesn't have the Warhammer aesthetic. It looks like it belongs in Konflikt '47 as one of the US's mechs.The boxnought is classic Warhammer aesthetic. There was no reason to change it.
>>98571383>Tau aren't egotisticalYou people are fucking bad at lore
GW, why? Why even update the Legends datasheets? And why just to remove a keyword they're supposed to have? Do they really think this model is supposed to be measured to the base?
>>98571419Okay, I may try making a black grip and having the weapon be mainly grey, with some silver bits and “barrel.”I think I got how to do the coils, you just paint one coat white, then blue, then dry brush blue to give it the glow, right?
>>98571432Dryad Brown is my favorite paint for leather by far, nothing else gets that perfect reddish-orange color.Honorable mention to Obsidian Skin for gunstocks and Jasper Skin for white skin basecoating.>>98571446>K47 US Mech>Redemptor DreadnoughtNTA but it'd fit more alongside the German heavy walkers; in fact, it looks a LOT like the "Heuschrecke Medium Panzermech."But I get your point.>>98571478I don't run plasma, so I can't tell you how to paint them. Someone else can help you with that, I'm certain there's 5 million YT videos of "how to paint plasma EASY" too.
>>98571460Lmao wtf??What crack are they smoking at the GW design studio right now? 11th is looking worse and worse every single passing day, like just complete schizophrenic bullshit like this and what's going on with Space Marines where they can't even decide what they're doing
>>98571456nooo my heckin fishpeople are completely selfless and don't even hold their philosophies as anything valuable or to be clung to or imposed at gunpoint
Old Good New Bad
>>98571488Maybe they are planning on blowing up 40k as a game. They are making it intentionally bad so everyone will cheer when it finally gets killed off. Then they can reboot it without the weight of past lore to hold them back.Nice digits by the way.
I must have suffered a stroke in my sleep because I woke up this morning with an irresistible desire to make a 4th-ed Catachan Army. Good thing the infantry models are still sold lol.
>go on ebay/fbm>shit ton of firstborn being sold for cheap>buy them, add spikes, swap bases>now have super cheap CSM armyfeels good
4e is 4ever
>>98571504>Nice digits by the way.Hell yeah
>>98571504They will make it a complex mess by the end of 11th so everyone cheers for an index reset and another "simplification" of the game.
>>9857151512e oldhammer reboot you heard it here first screencap this shit btw
>a marine in phobos is as fast as a Wych>a heavy intercessor is tougher than a custodes
>>98571509People who sell their models just because they aren't officially supported anymore are fucking retarded. At least non-retarded people like you can take advantage of them and get a cheap army.
>>98571488I like 11th
>>98571488I made this model as a joke but the way GW has been acting I wouldn't be surprised if they made this kind of thing canon.
>>98571524KekThe female gargants were so unhinged
spergs hate anything new, at least until another new thing replaces it and the thing that they hated suddenly becomes based and old
>>98571318>There is a firefight!
>>98571520A unit isn't really fast unless it can advance&shoot/charge. A unit isn't tough unless it has an invuln and FNP.
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>>98571250One day I might have a full chaos army painted up. One day.
>>98571520As a Drukhari player I don't give a damn about the T5 thing. It'll probably be fine eventually. But Marines on foot being as fast or faster than any elf infantry unit without jump packs is fucking insane.
>>98571534have i news for you
>>98571400Stop ban evading pedophile
>>98571535Im the guy enjoying 11th outside in the sun with my friends and you’re the guy stuck in a hole reliving 4th in your head over and over again
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98571507Those models are well and truly terrible, anon. You either have to 3D print or kitbash one of the many "Space Rambo" kits out there to get decent Catachans.
>>98571548NTA but you don't even know what "being out in the sun" is, that's the whole point. You think 11th is fun because you've never left the cave.
>>98571540elves are probably going to 8 movement base
>>98571540theyre primaris elfcuck theyre faster and stronger than your cuck units could ever hope to be
>>98571548I am not the 4th edition obsessed guy.
>>98571557Im having fun loland you think trying to drag that fun down with negativity is somehow enlightened?
>>98571535I would kill pl*to on the spot if I ever met himhe and his kind raped the world for thousands of years, possibly forever
>>98571560>the 4th edition obsessed guyPretty sure there's more than one of us
>>98571557NTA, I've been playing since 4th and play other wargames and skirmish games tooI'm having fun with 11th, you should try it
>>98571568why did you post a primaris?
>>98571569I've been playing since 2nd and 10th was so miserably shit I am not bothering with 10.1th
>>98571540>But Marines on foot being as fast or faster than any elf infantry unit without jump packs is fucking insane.Why? Marines are fast than Eldar in lore.
>>98571564Can you be more specific? Its been a decade since I read any of his work.
>>98571545It’s unreal how much I hate you
>>98571573Retard.
>>98571551>some of the best looking models in the game>thinks they need a refresh ISHYGDTT
>>98571440Doakes.jpg
Does anyone recognize this bit? I saw it on an ebay listing mislabeled as a Blightlord Terminator bit, but it's clearly not one.
>>98571577>any human at all faster than an eldar Lol, lmao
>>98571556Way to out yourself as a thirdie whos never touched the hobby and has only seen memes, the models are fine, GW's paint job just sucked.
>>98571577I'm not even an eldarfag but that's a complete lie
>>98571551>30% WR>Zero MFM changesThey forgot about you, nigga
>>98571575No you haven't
>>98571582Knee flanges
>>98571580Now you understand a tenth of the hate literally everybody here feels for you!
>>98571599Yes he has.
>>98571599Im fine with people skipping the edition if they want but don’t kill our vibes bro we’re enjoying 11th over here
>>98571599Why is it so hard to believe there are 50yos posting here? It literally the best place online to discuss 40k.
>>98571577>believing wikislopeldar are supposed to be super fast glass cannons, but now they're just glass since GW is caving to dipshit marine glazers and gave all the eldar gimmicks to marines without any downsides. marinefags are a blight on this hobby.
>>98571589Damn, it's almost as if Marines are superhuman.>>98571593Name one time Eldar have shown better speed than Eldar.If Eldar were faster than Marines then Marines wouldn't dumpster them every time they fight, but they do.
>>98571609Don't reply to me mutant pedo
>>98571612get owned lol>>98571616I dont even sound like him at all lol you’re having a proper meltie bud
>>98571591Fucking lovely doods.>tiger sripe chainswordFookin noiceThese look great, they are all characterful but not overdone like modern GW stuff. I love how they look like actual miniature soldiers on a battlefield.Fuckin A.
>>98571615>Name one time Eldar have shown better speed than Eldar.Type your troll shitposts a little slower next time kek
>>98571612Cry more, 40k exists becaude of Space Marines. Xenos are background NPCs to be shot at
>>98571544phobos (infiltrators at least) don't have that. regular intercessors are the fast ones with assault and action & fight
I like orks :D
How did Dark Angels not get a points increase to stuff that matters? Guess they are gonna stay near the top til the next update with the SM codex
>>98571632the bikes are the thing being most spammed at top tables.
>>98571580I want you know that I'm a different anon unrelated to this argument but I'm also not very fond of you
>>98571591It is a 25-year old kit, anon. It was fine at the time. It looks terrible now.
>>98571620Literally typing exactly like himDown to the limpdicked umad cries
>>98571579He engendered a millennia long obsession with magical "forms" and other such Platonist nonsense.Ah yes, the object that I am sitting on is merely a projection, a shadow of the REAL chair that exists in its perfect form only in an incorporeal dimension of pure thought and rationality! How did I come to know of this non-spatial, non-temporal, causally inert object? It came to me in a dre- I mean, I used pure rationality to deduce it.
>>98571638Leave me the fuck alone
>>98571641You acting foolish lil man im gonna get back to enjoying 11th over here
>>98571625>40k exists because of space marinesthen go play horus heresy, faggot. all the marineslop you could possibly want without ever needing to hear about xenos again.
>>98571591It's not fine and your pic proves itEven the golden daemon model looks like dogshit despite the unreal paint job>>98571621Not his, stolen off facebook
>>98571611>It literally the best place online to discuss 40kcan't tell if coping or just delusional
>>98571612>super fast glass cannons, but now they're just glassThe next time I play I'm gonna take this. 14" move + 9" advance + d6+1 star engines - 2" for take to the skies and I'm gonna see if I can get behind my opponent's cover with its assault pulsar turn 1
I may have applied a bit too much of satin varnish, it'll probably end up being shinier than I wanted. Can I also apply matt varnish as well?
>>98571645You are permanently bannedLeave our site the fuck alone pedoredditor
>>98571615"‘Do you hear that?’ the others were voxing.'Footsteps.’‘Those aren’t footsteps. They’re too fast.’He couldn’t hear a thing beyond the beating of his hearts, and the blood rain streaming down his helm and shoulders. It took two heaves to shove the twitching body off his horn. His neck gave a stiff crackle as he stood up straight again.Then he heard it. And Talos was right. It was footsteps.‘I know what that is,’ he said. The steps had the rhythm of a racing heartbeat, soft against the stone yet still echoing down the hallways, loud as the winds of the warp.Talos stood above two slain maidens, blood dripping from his curled fingers. The only sound was the footsteps, now all the screeching had fallen still.‘What is it?’ he asked.‘A storm in flesh, with a rain of blades. She Who Stalks the Void.’ Uzas ran his tongue across his teeth, tasting the acid on his gums. ‘The Storm of Silence.’"eldar can move so fast that nightlords struggled to believe that they were hearing footsteps
>>98571660put as many top coats on your top coats as you want
>>98571645Leave this place already you shiteating cockroach, is 200 bans really not enough for you to get the fucking message?
>>98571545>>98571661>>98571616Deranged
>>98571642I think that's just the excuse people were using to not advance technology to maintain the status quo I don't think very many people literally believed him.
>>98571660Absolutely. Its a common practice to do a gloss varnish for protection, because its a thick solid layer, and then do matte over top to cover up the shininess of the gloss.
should I proont a bunch of vypers and buy 3 wraithknights so I can run this list?
>>98571577Do Marines move "faster than the eye can track"?
>>98571652>not hisDo you expect my compliments to fly away?
>>98571660You can but the finish will be matte. If you want something inbetween matte and satin you have to mix the two, assuming you're using an airbrush and not rattlecans.
>>98571652Not worst than the average GW model
>>98571280the OG box aint got no fuckin knees and doesnt have an elbow to rotate its gun. it's soul comes from how clanky it is. Redempter takes the same design language and makes it a little less silly imo
>>98571615When Garviel talks about fighting them.That short story where the iron hands are fighting them.I guess that time a Wraithlord parried a primarch too, and Lucius described their swordsmenship as more agile than what his body can pull of properly.>>98571625>>98565093 your game is down the hall
>>98571577Maybe against Eldar that aren't trained far down an Aspect Path yet, aka basically civilians. Lore consistently has Eldar Aspect Warriors as the very least slightly faster than Marines, with higher tier Eldar absolutely mogging Marines (Harlequins, Exarchs, Incubi, Succs, etc). Marines generally win by making Eldar stand and fight where and when they don't really want to be.Game wise speed creep is insane rn. 44x60 board feels way too small. Baseline Marines need to be M5 again with everyone else scaled back accordingly. Phobos can be M7 then if they really want.
how would YOU make Warhammer 50,000?hard mode: no space marines
>>98571704delete eldar from the setting
I don't have the time to ritualpost about how much I miss marines but every so often I'd like to pop in the thread and just mention that I miss marines.
>>98571663nta, but they were talking about Jain Zar, a Phoenix Lord (Eldar Primarch equivalent)Normal eldar, even aspect warriors, are simply glass cannons at best compared to Astartes. They only need to connect once and it's game over for the knife ears.
>>98571460This is so fucking sick, why did they remove FW vehiclesI feel like they would have a better chance of actually selling well now that FW is rolled into the GW store.
>>98571703I still use a 4x6 board. For larger point games is absolutely necessary. GW shill channels on YT like PlayOnTabletop games look so jenk because their entire deployment zones are filled to max but those leafs never have anything negative to say about the game.
>>98571265Why do this comparison never use the proper dreadnought and keep using the one that came in the starter set?
>>98571704Guard, nids, and necrons only. Chaos is regulated to a specialist game like necromunda.
>>98571712This. I like the Eldar, but they have become narratively irrelevant. There really isn't any reason to keep them around. That applies to the Dark Eldar too.
>>98571704I'd pull a second age of strife
>>98571683Yes. That's kinda a thing for them. Even in the bulky armor they still move faster than normal Humans can register.
>>98571672Stop ban evading mutant
>>98571723>narratively irrelevant.Go back
>>98571715It was a constant reminder of how shit current 40k is
>>98571715>why did they remove FW vehiclesBecause the Tantalus uses etched brass that is only present on like 4 kits ever made by gw, it wasn't reasonable or cost effective to keep it available
>>98571715>why did they remove FW vehiclesIt's the fault of tourneyfags and trying to make the game "balanced" at all costs, so they can have rules for OOP minis.What should be a variant of how to play, has devoured the game.
>>98571714Jain Zar is Mv 8", same as a space marine in light armor.
>>98571704All imperium forces except for admech and guard fall to chaos.
>>98571460>>98571488>>98571715As we've been saying for a WHILE:1) Resin is going away2) No model, no rulesMaybe one day they'll do the HH thing and release all of those goodies in plastic, one can hope
>>98571712Delete space wolves from the setting
>>98571734You can deny it all you want. But narrative relevance matters. People play 40k for the lore. They pick their armies based on that lore. No one wants to play as a faction that just feels like background noise.
>>98571704Try to make 50k more of a setting where it's even more possible to have your dudes doing cool things, though 40k's setting is pretty alright as-is but it's just lost its way.
reminder that every single Incubus klaivex (Sgt equivalent) is capable of fighting 4 fully armoured and armed space marines at once while the incubus is naked and with a hand tied behind their back
>>98571723What's the narrative relevance of any of the Xenos factions, really?They should just have 50k be Marines vs Marines again. Solar Auxilia, Custodes, and Mechanicum can come play too.
>>98571751Dark Eldar get the benefits of being able to come back from death so they can learn to fight over several lifetimes and master the blade in a way a mortal can't.
>>98571460wish I bought a tantalus when I had the chance
50k should be various factions of Tzaangors fighting amongst one another
>>98571751>3+ WS
>>98571766convergent evolution
>>98571751incubi are built different even compared to other eldar
>>98571764You can find them on several recaster sites. I'm told they don't have the warping issue with the sail and hull the Forgeworld ones always had. No etched brass deck of course though.
>>98571751Reminder that before he became a Captain, Titus killed an entire squad of Howling Banshees while his Captain dueled and killed an Autarch.
>>98571704Necrons seal the great rift and the eye but the traitors take Terra.Ultramar is now the Imperium Secluded with multiple smaller human empires referred to as the Imperium ScatteredThe Eldar suicided and took Slaanesh down with them but some scatterred remnants survive, mostly exodites, harlequinns, and wraithsOrksTau can't expand past the seventh sphere and have taken to fortifying their empireTyranids have eaten a third of the galaxy but seem to be leaving rather than spreading outVotann are being exterminated by the Necrons for destroying one of the great dynastiesThe Emperor is apparently alive but nobody can tell why they think thatAbaddon and Gulliman are dead. Space Marines are now modified humans rather than post human but the Ultramarines are still around but they're looking for the Blood Angels who claimed to have found Sanguinius before disappearing.Doomrider is now Warmaster
I'm about to complete my pile of shame. Only 5 acolytes on the sprue left, though I don't know what to build them as.
>>98571704space marines get women and without the need for them to reproduce via humans and gene seed, the astartes become insane bandit kings and queens fighting in the ashes in what was once the imperiumthe custodes and grey knights are all dead, none of the founding legions exist anymore, the squabbling chaos warbands have all been subsumed into various levels of decaying chaos spawn with only scant few hints that they ever were astartesThe daemons starve with fewer emotions to feed them, the hunger driving what little thought they had out of their minds. The tyranids have malstrained themselves into extinction, feral self-sustaining hives that consume one another in an endless orgy of violence while the rot spreads, the once unifying hivemind now laying quiet. The Necrons have fallen to the flayer curse, dynasties now filled with maddened beasts that resemble the necrontyr no more, falling apart like scrap metal as the reanimation protocols are far too corrupted to ever work again. The neotenate Tau Empire lies devastated, the core worlds obliterated via virus bombs and the last few enclaves scraping along as mercenaries for warbands, with the descendents of the earth caste falling to profine rituals to try and keep the relics workingAll are doomed. With the exception of the Orks, who like how violent everything is.
>>98571743space marines are just that basedplus fast footsteps dont inherently mean that you’re faster if your stride is shorter
>>98571751Wasn't there a scene in the Iron Snakes book where a single squad of marines killed hundreds to thousands of dark eldar with ease? And then in another scene lost two marines to farmer chaos cultists armed with garbage
>>98571749>People play 40k for the lore. They pick their armies based on that lorethis is what secondaries and tertiaries actually believe
>>98571789Keep them. A tiny bundle of shame. For later.
>>98571791Orkz need to also be doomedIt needs to be grimdarkierNobody should be happy anon
>>98571749>people play 40k for the loreI play for the minis, the lore and rules are ass
>>98571795based wolfbro *high fives*we pick armies based on how yummy their diapers smell
>>98571768It's a real shame what the lack of WS does to the gameIncubi used to be WS5, going up to WS6 and WS7 with some buffs, meaning that marines struggled to hit them and in return they could survive close combatthey had AP 2 weapons that could kill a terminator dead in a single blow and if you took minimum squads you got the aura monster ability to gain way more attacks on the charge
>>98571794your average dark eldar is a drug addicted degenerate
>>98571804Keep seething tourist, the decalpedo is on your side that lore is what matters and draws people in
>>98571748Kek you’re so desperate to stay relevant my little Eldar femboy aren’t ya?
>>98571809>all dark eldar are jobbersftfy
>>98571804>defaulting to his boogeymanat least put some effort into your shitposting
>>98571696>the OG box aint got no fuckin kneesBro we're not doing this "vents" shit again, yes it does, they're behind the armour plate
>>98571820dark eldar can't job because we're so irrelevant that GW doesn't feature us anymore in lore
>>98571817Stop ban evading pedophile
>>98571817they're more relevant than your furry homosexual jobbers lmao
>>98571827>tfw Dark Eldar players are so buck broken that being condemned to BL only is being treated as a win
>>98571795Not a secondary. Clearly you've never heard of Stillmania.
I honestly have no idea why I play the factions I play.
>>98571837The thing Stillman was considered a weirdo for doing?
>>98571704>Warhammer 50,000It's like the Horus Heresy but instead of 18 Legions there's 18 different subfactions of Tyranids with different adaptations, almost everything else has been eaten. Necrons take the place of Mechanicum, Genestealer Cults take the place of Solar Auxilia (they no longer infect humans because there are none left, they just keep breeding and breeding for thousands of generations).
>>98571714>The eldar was blindingly fast, but Juno had anticipated the blow and was already weaving to one sideThis is talking about a farseer
>another day, another endless spam of decalfag this decalfag thatyou should all be banned, assholes. Stop shitting up the tread with you edrama lolcowSHUT THE FUCK UP
>>98571856This.
>>98571846I picked my factions because I liked their models, that's literally it.
>>98571856Agreed.
>>98571856>>98571860Sorry redditors would you rather go back to your daily oldgoodnewbad shitposting or offtopic /pol/faggotry
>>98571704I would have space wolves be black and gay. Ooops they already are.
>>98571856>>98571856Well said, my friend.
>>98571871Stop ban evading pedophile
>>98571612this has happened beforewhen the eldar codex drops they'll be faster and killier and betterGW has a financial incentive to power creep constantly to push plastic and make moneythen they'll say "the power level is too high" and do a crunch and we will rinse and repeatpretending this is going to be a "only marines will be op" thing is silly
>>98571867>oldgoodnewbad shitpostingIt's not shitposting when it's true. Primaris suck, Firstborn are Forever.
>>98571795I did back in 7th and Im a primary
>>98571588Necron flayer
It's incredible how people can sniff him out from as little as a few words
>>98571885His behavior and typing patterns are so different from everyone elses he might as well glow at this point
>>98571851>The Hive Mind Heresy
>>98571885>>98571892Shut up!
>>98571893Those models should be T 1 for having exposed brain matter. I fucking hate the nuTyranids.
>>98571704nids vs space marines at the end of all thingsas god intended
>>98571901You're a fucking retard.
>>98571869No sorry that was your ancestry page you dumb wretch
> What's a faction you don't play or have models for but think is really cool, and why?For me, Crons jumped up a bunch of tiers with the Twice Dead King duology. Really fleshed out how many Necrons are barely holding it together, with only their obsessions, collective delusions, and strict hierarchy keeping them from spiralling into existential dread and suffering, turning into creatures that remember they used to be living beings, and now they have no stomach and are hungry, no lungs and they must breathe, no mouth, and they must scream.
>>98571704The final battle against chaos happens and wipes out most of the Eldar, but cripples Chaos for 10,000 years and kills (not for good) Slaanesh. All primarchs die in the final battle against chaos. The shockwave separates the nids from the hivemind and the remaining fleets go feral and start eating eachother. The golden throne finally fails and the imperium crumbles to bits. It's unclear if the Emperor is dead, but nobody who enters the throne room returns.The Mechanicus fucks off to do its own thing, but religious schisms keep them from being at all unified. The Custodes take control of Terra and barely manage to keep a small territory around Sol. There is a brutal war for control of Mars that ended in the complete destruction of the planet.The remaining Space Marines, though a fraction of the original million chapters, rule and protect their home systems. About half of them pay lip service to the imperium or the Emperor.The Tau took advantage of the aftermath of the death of the imperium to rapidly expand and experienced a golden age for thousands of years. Unfortunately for them they bit off more than they could chew and are stretched far too thin on far too many fronts.The war on mars freed the shard of the void dragon which enslaved a large portion of the necrons. This combined with infighting, decay from their sleep, attrition, and the flayer virus have crippled their combined strength.Vect is still around doing fuck all in Comorragh. Their society is slightly nicer since Slaanesh isn't sucking on their souls anymore, but only slightly.Orks are the same as always. There aren't enough big enemies to fight to get a real waagh going.The traitor legions are basically extinct though some new marines have turned to chaosThe votann's ancestor cores finally broke and they're more dwarfy nowThe slaan step out from the depths of the webway and say "all according to keikakku" before carving out a significant chunk of the galaxy as their own
>>98571909Damn. With this behavior i bet you'll be accepted into community events any day now.
>>98571876>GW has a financial incentive to power creepNoThey have an incentive to make Marines strongMarines are what sell 40k. They make up over 50% of GW's sales as a whole, and likely more than that.Marines were quite literally referred to as the protagonists of 40k by GW themselves during the mostnrecent investor report, which made special mention how Marine sales are still surpassing all else.The other factions, xenos especially, can wallow in the dirt on the roadside.
>>98571901>Exposed brains>NuBait or retarded, call it.
>>98571611If there's genuinely a 50 year old who's been playing this for 30 years and had hated it for nearly a decade but still comes here to cry about it when he could just go to the general made for people who don't like modern 40k he should be mocked and pitied
>>98571916>turn all Imperium factions into renegadeskino, I don't even care about the restWarlordism would be a net positive for this game, it would incentivize people to make /theirdudes/ from the buttfuck-fortress world of Wherethefuck IV instead of seeing a dozen slightly differently blue Ultramarines every weekend.It would also nuke characterwank by nature of forcing you to have a homebrew faction leader and whatnot.
>>98571892It’s the exaggerated way he types, as if it’s written dialogue from a novel See >>98571898
>>98571704Custodian vs Harlequin at baseTau returns from the nids galaxy during 2nd edition, having forged an alliance and got orks into the greater good a few millennials ago
>>98571916>though a fraction of the original million chaptersThere's only a thousand chapters, you fucking retard.>The golden throne finally fails and the imperium crumbles to bits. It's unclear if the Emperor is dead, but nobody who enters the throne room returns.>The Custodes take control of Terra and barely manage to keep a small territory around Sol.If the Golden Throne fails, the entirety of Terra and a good chunk of the Sol system will be engulfed in a warp rift/storm. So how the fuck are the Custodes going to take control of a planet that doesn't fucking exist anymore? God you're such a fucking lorelet. If you're going to try to write fanfic for the setting, at least know the fucking setting.
>>98571942Just so you know every time you out me from some mundane post like “shut up” it proves that you are in cahoots with someone in charge here.
>>98571946>got orks into the greater goodoi u 'erd o' this grea'er krumpf fing yet?
>>98571926Maybe he’s just lonely because those threads are dead
>>98571949Nope! You literally glow with your posts because you do not fit in on 4chan despite plaguing us for 3 years nowYou are the equivalent of a refugee refusing to assimilate and being surprised people know where you're from
Neo-Krork Battlesuit Commander............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>>98571922>>98565093Weird how their marine only primarch game isn't bank rolling the company
>>98571964because hh doesn't have proper darth vader helmets in any preponderance
and neither does 40k anymore btwi think we can all come to the consensus that it's all downhill from here
>>98571969Neither does 40k anymore
>>98571704Space Marines get the Thunder Warriors treatment. Custodes become the new Space Marines. Retards get their female space marines by virtue of the Custodes retcons and promptly disappear from the hobby. Recapture the Chud market by making new "dude in power armor" faction that's more elite than Custodes with no females allowed.Also, no vehicles that aren't transportats/fast attack.
>>98571985yeah i said that you GOOF <3
>>98571980You'd think we would be moving a little faster if we were going downhill along a slippery slope.
>>98571745Plumbing the old Forge World ranges for re-releases in plastic is the most braindead easy source of "new" models imaginable, hopefully the Death Korps being so well received prompts GW to do more of it in the future. There's a lot of good stuff lurking in those old catalogues.
>>98571980The game is flourishing and the new show will make it grow even further leaving you dregs behind.
>>98571926No clue what it is about specifically fourth edition but it draws the most spergs. People who’ve never even let their stench reach a lgs nor open a blister yelling about how 40K is dead without having any insight into the current game nor previous editions. No clue what causes this but I chose to blame genestealers
>>98571969HH just got the SW stormtrooper helmets though
>>98571992Stop ban evading pedo
>>98571969There's plenty if you play World Eaters
>>98571631Kill urks! è.é
>>98571949You know, if you simply stopped using as many punctuations and used >greentextinstead of quotation marks, it would go a long way masking your tone
>>98571964because most primarch obsessed morons are also tertiaries that are too retarded to understand classic 40k rules and therefore are unable to play horus heresy
>>98572027What is so great about not being able to split fire?
>>98571764No you don't, look up a video of the amount of work you have to do just to get them assembled because forgeworld can never produce a kit that isn't warped to hell and full of mould slippage
>>98572027>understand classic 40k ruleslolescifi oldhammer is dead as of herussy 3e anywayswhat a fucking atrocity
>>98571991Yeah. I get the reason behind them phasing out or removing resin (production difficulties and additional legal issues in the uk), but this would ideally be the solution for it. Hope this edition just doubles down on the support they’re already giving legends with changes like making those rules available on the app
>>98571992>The game is flourishingLol
>>98572027you are the primarch obsessed moron
>>98571969Those are lame though
>>98571997>People who’ve never even let their stench reach a lgs nor open a blisterThose people just side with current editionYou have to have been around to experience the good old days to love 4th
>>98571991Yes. Even though they would be fairly useless in game, I want my Centaur Carriers, Atlas Recovery Tanks and Trojan Support Vehicles back.
Should I redo my chapter master as a regular lord, lord exultant, reave-captain, or wait years until there's a new termie lord model?
>>98572048found the tertiary that consumed all of the horus heresy sloppa books.
>>98571745I mean, based on how 3D print technology is going these days they could literally scan the FW models and make CADS of them
>>98572049Said no one ever except shitposters40k became the dominant tabletop game and a multibillion dollar franchise off the iconic Mk 7 helmet long before retarded shit like primaris were even conceived by nuGW
>>98572063What do you mean? Isn't he a space marine captain?
>>98572078Primaris are just mk4 and mk8 combined
>>98572054This. It's way easier for larpers to latch on to the current thing. For every one youtuber dedicated to 2nd or 3rd or 4th edition, there is a hundred running around about 10th/11th.
If they didn't also squat castra ferrum dreads I would actually have been really excited to port my HH army over to 40k as super elite intercessorsThe contrast of them being objective taggers who can't hurt a fly in one system and brutal elite infantry in the other would have been quite fun
>>98572063Reave captain. You filthy fucking traitor
>>98572086Which one of those mks had knee flanges or buzz lightyear boots and chest armor?
>>98571265I prefer the redemptor but I like it more with that one 3rd party upgrade sprue that makes the armor panels more blocky and more castaferrum like.It's still a neat model as is though. The brutalis variant is my favorite.
>>98572086Plus a bunch of new shitty design elements that look way worse and have 10x less variety from individual model to model (every single backpack identical)
>>98572102>avatarfaggingDon’t do this
>>98572096>buzz lightyear boots and chest armor?Mk8But tourists like you don't know the ankle balls and swooped earcaps came from that design
>>98572102>shitty design elements that look way worseSubjective.I can do this too, mk5 looks fucking ugly and retarded and looks more like it has some form of disease that gives it boils than power armor.Mk7 is boring and generic and the darth vader rip off helmet is lame.
>>98572081He's my chapter master in the /dude/lore.>>98572093Do you reckon one of the beakie helmets from the raptors box would aesthetically match the reave-captain, or is it too much trim for a renegade?>spoiler textI had been chewing at the idea of starting a space marine list with my beakie pile of shame, but I have determined that trimlets can go fuck themselves now.
I just want to remind you guys, who think GW knows what they are doing, that the actual people in charge, the executive decision makers at the top, they are so disconnected from the hobby that to say they cannot tell apart an Ultramarine from a Black Legion Chaos Marine is an understatement.They cannot tell apart a Space Marine from an Age of Sigmar Goblin.We have had current/former GW employees talk about things and leak things. They had to explain to the higher-ups why a single customer would not buy 10 Roboute Guillimans and run them in a 10-man squad together. That's how fucking out of touch the boomers are who make the decisions. You really should never be sucking the dick of this company.
>>98572102My favourite is the dumb cyclinder they added to every primaris gun. And all the retardo kiddos here on /40kg/ are like>Hell yeah, now THIS is epic!
dear all monitoring government agencies i am most certainly NOT plotting acts of mass atrocity against those who would speak ill of darth vader helmets please remove me from all pertinent watchlists
Today I shall order 40 HH beakies to build into a renegade chapter
>>98571969Just use 3D prints and do what you like for your own armyMK6 + MK7 helmet is best combo
>>98572107>avatarfaggingWhat the fuck are you on about you fucking sperg? It's a common 4chan reaction image that gets used everywhere all the time and the only image I posted in the reply chain. Stupid retard newfag no wonder you defend primaris.
>>98572078>Said no one ever except shitposters>everyone i disagree with is a shitposterThis is just you burying your head in the sand to hide from the fact that there are people who have differing opinions than you.Very high sign of autism and narcissism
>>98572114>it's just subjective!!!Only if you have no taste or skills of discernment.
>>98572128Yeah, you must have zero fucking taste if you like mk5 or mk7.
>>98572131Dis nigga thinks Phobos are peak 40k and wants to talk about taste!
>FIST!!
>>98572054That implies they’ve played 40K before. It’s like people who won’t shut up about dnd 3.5. They don’t really know anything about what they’re talking about besides some idiotic clout they think it gives them. Same type of person as a “lore nerd” that says primaris ruined the setting despite getting all their lore from wikis and YouTube shorts. At the very least some of the 10th/11th channels will interact with 40K in some form which makes them far better
>>98572131Said no one ever when Mk 7 was printing GW 10 billion gorillion dollars since the 90s.
>>98572128>>98572131Letting low functioning autists like you on the Internet unsupervised was almost as bad as letting the south asians online
>Guard infantry already fucking dead as a take in an army>INCREASE the cost of guard infantry options>Nerf the recon detachmentI cannot claim to be a metafaggot, but fucking over guard infantry doesn't exactly seem as if it's targeting any of the tournament winning factions.
>>98572123Mk6 shknees look like shit
>>98572117>that whole postwe are so fucking fucked
>>98572117>boomersThere is not a single boomer on GW's executive staff. They are all Gen X. Boomer doesn't just mean "old person" you fucking retard.
>>98572136>Same type of person as a “lore nerd” that says primaris ruined the setting despite getting all their lore from wikis and YouTube shortsNigger it's the primaris-likers who get all their lore from wikis and YouTube shorts because all those places have no discernment of what's good or bad they just post the current slop coming from GW.THE EPIC NEW PRIMARIS MARINES - STRONGER THAN EVER?! NEW BELISARIAN ORGANS?! is like the kind of shit you see on YouTube shorts. You are projecting.
>>98572118>remember seeing the auto bolt rifle with the speedloader gear>"okay kind of dumb but I'm alright with it">seeing the same speedloader gear on plasma guns and flamers
>>98572141GW is known for this. Happened with things like accursed cultists who get hit with rules nerfs AND then a points hike.
>>98572112Show me one (1) piece of official artwork depicting a mk8 marine with the gay ass double-layered Primaris chest armor
>>98572147No one cares unc, boomer has entered the common lexicon as exactly that, it's old fucks who are out of touch.
>>98572141Guard are a tank army anyway. You only take infantry to screen your tanks.
>>98572158Russes are 130 points fellas, its time to be running 15 of them.
>>98572151I blame channels like PlayOnTabletop and Adeptus Ridiculous. They always shill the newest thing and never have anything negative to say about the game.
>>98572157No it hasn't. You're just trying to double down on the fact that you used a word incorrectly rather than just admit you used it incorrectly.
there are infidelsin this threadrightnowwho would speak ill of darth vader helmets
>>98572166>>98572151you guys are so fucking delusional with your primaris hate. They were always going to be the future once they were released. You're hate of them is hilarious but also retarded.
>vashtorr jobs to caedo in boltgun 2kek
>>98572167You're just proving you're a boomer who can't keep up with slang lmao
>>98571948>seething marinefagThe emperor or perhaps the dark king, in this scenario is the one holding the warp rift shut, not the golden throneobviously I meant 1 million marines, retard. 1000 chapters x 1000 marines each
>>98571318>ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
>>98572177Nope. Not a marinefag. I just know the lore. You obviously don't. Faggot.
>>98572171>THEY ARE THE FUTURE>IT WAS HER TURNNNYou sound like a seething woke fag lmaoI'm not buying primaris. Sorry! Haha, I know, I know. I'm sorry! I'm just not going to pay for them ahahah!
>>98572192okay, enjoy your manlets.
>>98572166Exactly, and like a dozen more besides the ones you named. A bunch of soifacing annoying fags who just glaze whatever nu-shit GW poops out into the slop trough. When people talk about tourists and secondaries who got into the game and never played they're talking about people who watch channels like this, which overwhelmingly shill primaris and are NOT the ones that respect the old editions and firstborn.
Building your army so that every model has a full helmet; cringe or based?I never knew that the Jaegirs kit includes a full helmet, which is compatible with all of the LoV lighter armour models. It is perfectly possible to have a whole army with zero skin showing.I quite like it on Votann because it makes them feel more alien and unknowable. I like them to be more like DAoT relics than rock and stone diggers.
Primaris in general, just look gay, is all. They just look meh. I just don't like them. Won't pay money for them. It's really that simple. Models are expensive and if GW wants me to spend money on models they need to make them more than just average or good enough, they have to be exceptional, they have to tickle my brain in all the right ways, they have to be fucking awesome. Primaris are just super fucking mid. Some of them in previous editions were downright bad, awful even, but these days they're usually just mid. But mid isn't good enough for my money. Sorry! I'm just not going to buy them is all. Why don't you make some space marines like this, James?
>>98572192Enough people do that you don't matter.
>>98572204Helmets are cool. It's that shrimple.
>>98572158>to screen your tanksYou take infantry to capture points. You let the smaller tanks screen for the bigger tanks.>>98572163Only 2 variants are 130 points. They both go up to 145 for their 3rd. The rest is true though.Also, the in-hull Lascannon now costs 5 points, so add 5 to every one of the costs you see for LR variants.
>>98572151At the least those channels will make people who actually give a damn, and have a chance at pointing at something in a codex or book. 4th ed larpers will just say shit. Sick of having to warn people about how much of a mess that eras codex rules were
>>98572203Primaris look better than firstborn marines. Of course visual media would prefer them.
>>98572211Everyone who buys primaris would also buy upscaled firstborn too, because they're paypigs with no discernment who buy ANYTHING GW puts out. The opposite is not true. Therefore upscaled firstborn would just sell more, because they would continue to sell to every primaris supporter, but also to the primaris haters. GW is just leaving money on the table. Simple as.
HiAsking lorefags/Eldar collectors to tell me what mini is this specific wraithbone piece a part of/what is it. Possible teaser for new RT companion.
>>98572222ok granddad
>>98572209This is exactly why I don't care for space marines at all. Space marines were always the most meh faction in the game. Space Babies being so up in arms about minor visual differences is so fucking hilarious.
>>98572117>be me>at LGS>7 foot tall gaint in a suit walks in>smells like a new car>a pair of 6 foot tall dudes are following him throughout the store>'who's ready to warhammer?'>he smiles>walks up to a random table a dumps 20 Guilliman models, all with different colored armor, skin tones, and hair color>some tau player shrugs and decides to play against him>the roll to see who goes first >suit rolls a 6>'I WIN!'>'Heads toward the door to leave>'Have fun gaming guys, FOR THE HORDE!'
>>98572222Holy checked quads of truth
>it's another episode of "primarisfag argues 'but look at what the piggies are buying!'"This is the apex of being a marinepiggy. In fact you're not even a marinepiggy at this point, you're a marinegolem.
>>98571690>IT'S MA'AM
>>98572073I'm not thinking all day about primarchs unlike you,>>98572124>It's a common 4chan reaction image that gets used everywhere all the timeIt wasn't so here until you faggots obssesed with decalfag began posting here>>98572151you're all retards that don't know anything about the lore, past or new.Your post proves it. Just terminally online spergs shouting at others doing the same. >>98572222No lies detected. The Red Corsairs releases proves it.
>>98572226Not DEldar, likely Craftworlds, though it could be any of the other elf factions. As to what that is, no clue. maybe a bonesinger?
>>98572222They hated him because he spoke the truth.
>>98572190what got you so assblasted? Your shitty firstborn getting squatted?
>>98572222My god you are truly unhinged
>>98571327Here's my collage entry :D
supeisumarines are deddo
>>98571741>that is only present on like 4 kits ever made by gwForge World made loads of brass etching detail sheets back in the day, they were excellent and they should have kept on making more of them.
>>98572222I guarantee you that if 9 years ago gw just released true scale firstborn. ALL you autist would have reeed then, and would still be butt hurt about GW invalidating your old models.You're just in the Bargaining Stage of Grief. Its okay. You'll get through this anon.
Is the meme true that tactical marines outsold all of Fantasy and that's why GW axed it?
>>98572258Stop ban evading pedo
>>98572263Great job fren they look fantastic
>>98572275The key difference is that in that scenario all of the complaining would have been done in between furiously jerking off to the new models.
Vashtorr the Arkifane is officially vidya.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRCcxzt-j8A
>>98572226bonesinger or some wraithbone shit
>>98572121If you get the Leviathan box you can get 10 legionares and 10 havocs + a leviathan. If you double the box you get the 40 beakies you were hoping for, plus the ability to build some full legionare squads (with the whole loadout options) if you buy some of the current CSM kits.
>>98572133>Dis nigga thinks Phobos are peak 40kNow you went too far buddy, I like primaris but I draw the line at phobos, horrid pieces of shit. I ain't a disgusting Ph*bber
>>98572250Yup to the third. This isn’t even a whfb situation where a bunch of minis suck to get. You can easily just run a 4th ed campaign right now without issue but I guess we have to whine about a game they’re completely unaware on the details of
>>98572139No fucking shit it sold 10 billion gorillion dollars when 99% of the fucking helmets they shoved into any kit were mk7.
>>98572226It definitely looks like a bonesinger's instrument.
Currently spitballing a 2k point guard tankspam meme list>Dorn Commander w/ Calm Under Fire>LR Commander w/ autocannons, 3x heavy bolters and Indomitable Steed>Castellan>Tech Priest>10 Cadians>Chimera for the infantry to ride around in>2 2x Hippogriff>2 LR Exterminator w/ 3x heavy bolters>1 LR Punisher w/ 3x heavy bolters>3x LR Vanquisher w/ lascannons and heavy bolter sponsonsI have 90 points leftShould I swap the Punisher for another Exterminator? A regular Battle Tank? Get rid of the Tech Priest and swap the Chimera for 2 Centaurs to get 10 more Cadians?
>>98572312Normal people would just shrug and play other edition. That's what the 2nd ed. guys have been doing since 1998.But middlehammer spergs seem to be unable to move on or to move back. They just stay here whining and shitting all over the place.Sadly the 4th ed remastered project pushed here in /tg/ for a time died.
>>98572275Yes, but it would have been far more subdued reeing, like the times Ork players got upset about being "forced" to rebase their 400 Ork boyz to 32mm (nobody forced them), only it wouldn't have come with one of the gayest, cocksuckingly lame lore excuse in the history of the franchise, and there'd also have been no hard feelings or perception of rug-pulling 9 years on because all the models having rules support pulled would still be acceptable to use by like 80% of the player base.It literally existed as nothing but a shallow excuse to sell marine players things they thought they didn't have, while pretending that the long term plan isn't to do it again in 10 years.
>>98572276>Is the meme trueno>tactical marines outsold all of Fantasyyes>that's why GW axed itnot specifically
>>98572336>Firstborn
>>98571991>>98572042>>98572060Sorry, best I can do is Plastic Warhound
Honest question, even if it seems insensitive, but why do xenos fans exist? Do they just hide behind the scant concept of 40k's kayfabe thinking some day GW will throw them a bone and give them a win? Xenos lore isn't particularly good, and their models are generally pretty average at most.I get Chaos fans wanting to be the bad guys and Imperial fans wanting the various flavours of Human armies, but xenos have never been more than jobbers for filler matches.
>>98572358Get me the start of Covidconfinment on that graph
>>98572358>line go up mean darth vader helmet le badwhat if line go up le bad have you ever thought about that, sheeple?????
>>98572362I don't think this question is honest at all, or your sense of what's cool or interesting in fantasy or science fiction is depressingly shallow and not worth trying to engage with.
>>98572365If darth vader helmet was so good the line would've gone up years ago before 2017, instead it stayed stable at a plateou and GW was actively stagnating.And stagnation is what kills a company.
>>98572305I was planning to go all-in on HH marines with the heavy weapon upgrades as well since they have autocannons and lascannons in them; I figured I could proxy the volkite culverins as heavy bolters if I wanted too.The Leviathan box is probably the best purchase for what I want, I do want the guys and the Rhino that are in it, thought I'm not sure how useful that Leviathan would be in a 40k CSM list since there isn't a really easy proxy for it.Thanks for the heads up before dumping a few hundred bucks.
Wtf
>98572373you are shiteating subhuman infidel sheeple
>>98572362>but why do xenos fans exist?Why do marine fans exist? It's the same answer for both.Also you're not honest, you're shit stirring dimwit trying to cause another flamewar with xenos fans. Just stop.
>>98572364covid is the hump before 2023's dip
>>98572379You got btfo by the graph Rajesh, go eat poop.
>>98572362Aesthetically superior.
>>98572379>infidelYou're brown.
>>98572362The same reason Horus Heresy hasn't come close to overtaking 40k
>>98572375The HH boxes are great, if only 40k ones were as good and cheap...
>>98572362I like necron aesthetics and I like necron backstories.Needing to be the main character and win in a shitty book I'll never read is fake and gay. I read one BL book and it sucked.
>>98572375The leviathan can be pretty fun to run with legends rules and is pretty tanky, though I can understand if that isn't something you'd want to run.There is the solid chance that we get a new Helbrute and if it's closer to Redemptor sized then you could easily proxy the Leviathans in.
>>98572377Clearly shes fast
>>98572336Yeah that is unfortunate. My hope right now is that instead of heresy 4.0 we get a scouring edition that leads into early 40K so we get more 40K style parts for those earlier mks more in line with the Badab war minis. Tartaros with crux’s and storm bolters and indomidus with the more mk4 style torsos and the like. Tired of sculpting that sort of thing myself lol
>>98572402This its mostly an aesthetic choice alongside whatever power flavor they have like necrons having teleporting and reanimation protocols
>>98572254I'm just perpetually ass blasted due to my unsatisfactory home life and lack of sexual success.
>>98572408The Scouring with Xenos is never going to happen, IMO. It just goes against the basic idea of the game.If the HH ever gets mk7, they also would be redesigns like all the other HH numarks
>Joke/reference winning the collage pollRunning back the Space Wolves month?
I got a game next friday where I'm finally allowed to take legends units. I'm taking lysander + a block of 10 assault terminators + a spartan. What detachment should I use and what other units should I bring to support the yellow immovable object?
>>98572370>>98572383But if you look at it it's clear the Imperial factions are meant to be the faces of 40k while Chaos are the heels. That leaves xenos as midcard jobbers meant to fluff up the promos for other factions. Why bother being fans of them? They'll never be able to do as much or look as good.>>98572388They really aren't, they're just oddball scraps meant to clash with the gothic appearances for Imperial and Chaos factions.>>98572392HH Marines are boring.
>>98572358>line started going up ever so slightly even before 8th edition's launchAge of Sigmar bros...We won
>>98572392Because they don't translate the rules to 12 languages like 40k ane have a fraction of the marketing?
>>98572405My entire schtick is trying to have actual renegade marinesNot chaosNot loyalistsJust "fuck you, we're doing our own thing out here where you can't make us pay taxes" like the Ashen ClawsThe CSM codex has detachments for it (renegade raiders/warband), but they don't have the units for it. Helbrutes are too "Chaos" for what I want (or even for Iron Warriors, the fleshy bits go against that), the push away from "regular SM vehicle but pointy" towards daemon engines, all of it just isn't what I'm after.I could run them as loyalists I guess but then you end up on the other end because they just legends'd the Predator and Vindicator.I know I'm making it difficult for myself.
>>98572427Nomodels leftist agitators rigging the vote, why am I not surprised.
>>98572232Kek
>>98572430>HH Marines are boring.30k marines are the best version of marines in terms of gameplay. Expanded the classic roster without killing the classic core units and the expansions are way cooler than anything primaris has done.
>>98572362you pick the imperium armies if you want to be the good guy.you pick chaos if you want to be the bad guy.you pick marines if you are a 0 taste shitter or are just getting into the hobby.you pick xenos for what are objectively the best aesthetics and models.this is the objective truth.
>>98572447CSM are better for what you say. Helbrutes are just old dreads.Centurions can be played as obliterators. It's not perfect, and you will lack daemon engines, but it's better than no rules.
>>98572430>HH Marines are boring.There's more than just Marines in the HH, and HH marines mog 40k marines in character and options
>>98572447Dude just run legends lmao. Even if its overcosted, a leviathan is still a leviathan
>>98572461>Centurions can be played as obliterators.NTA but the urge to impulse-buy a box has just skyrocketed.
>>98572458>you pick xenos for what are objectively the best aesthetics and models.>this is the objective truth.
>>98572470It's the only reason I ever wondered about buying those ugly mofos. They're unironically perfect for renegade/not fully corrupted Obliterators.You can even mix and match their weapons without worrying about the rules, heh
>>98571219What does it say about me if the only thing I enjoyed from this book were the reddit quips and the quotes at the beginning of the chapters?Because it really crawls to a bore from the moment they meet the sothka or whatever he's called up to the end, and it's not like it had much else before that beyond the promises of an adventure.
tau winfuck yourip marines
>>98571294decal actually likes this BLslop?
>>98572474Don't forget Assault Centurions as Mutilators!
>>98572472>no argument>basedjackI accept your concession.
>>98572481He doesn't read the books.
>>98572362The game is better from the xenos factions existing. Everyone plays marines, so some people have to play xenos so there is variety. I know that people want to shoot godzilla and mow down waves of gaunts, that is the fantasy every space marine player has. And everyone is a space marine player (including myself).This game would be even more same-y than it is now if some people didn't enjoy xenos. The game is already predominantly marines because that is what is pushed by gw. They always have new models every month, their rules are always strong, and most importantly they are the guys on the cover and all the art. You are playing the protagonists when you play marines.So some of us like to play the "baddie" or the antagonist of the imperium, whatever flavor that may be, so that our mutual experience on the tabletop is varied and cinematic. Marines vs Nids or Marines vs orks and such things are iconic and fun and narratively coherent and everything you want from a wargame.
>>98572430HH marines shit all over 40k marines, not only model wise, but lore wise too.>>98572435>a fraction of the marketing?I wouldn't call 80+ books a fraction of the marketing
>>98572484you didn't post any arguments, just uppity xenofag delusions, the 'jack was made just for guys like you
How is the old Predator to put together? I haven't been focusing on my marines for a while but I love the look of this tank and the Deimos pattern just doesn't hit me the same. I'm strongly considering getting one just to have, then maybe getting a Baal Predator later for the hell of it.
>>98572430Xenos are closer to destroying terra than chaos is atm
>>98572458correct
>>98572472>SoijakfagGo back
>>98572505anon..
>>98572455Yup. Word bearers in 3.0 are just plainly the most interesting csm have ever been. Their rules push you to live dangerously with a lot of melee combat, and use a lot of equivalents to 40K csm but better like the crack baby posessed that can be buffed to have the stats of a character, helbrutes that are monsters on the table, raptors that can drop a crazy number of flame templates if they’re forcing combat, and saturnine obliterators/mutilators that can deep strike themselves, and use the warp to throw miniature explosions around them when someone tries to hit them
I honestly want a straight answer, how is 40k less grimdark than before?Like using Necrons as an example, how were their pre-5thEd incarnation more grimdark when they were just the C'tan's robot armies compared to the present date where there are necrons who skin humans alive and wear their skin or some necron lords torture humans to experiment on them, or that the obvious terminator reference oldcrons were still exist in the destroyer cults?
>>98572505It's super easy and there are tons of magnetization guides over the web. Do it. It's a classic kit for a reason
>>98572448Maybe people just want to do a funny little diorama. Why are you so mad?
It's nice that nobody hates me for playing DG anymore because they're weak now.
>>98572498if you think any marine unit looks better than its equivalent in a xenos army, you're either wilfully blind or a zero taste shitter. now go back to the shorty where you belong.
>>98572490based spirit of wargaming reasoning
>>98572484>raped by the filter>>98572509soijak website, newfag
>>98572158>it's 2028>smirking Guard player rolls up with army box, begins to set up>12 versions of the Lemun Russ (Positron sponsons) at 100 pts apiece>Krieg squads screening it is 135 pts (+20 pts for the No Special Weapon and Vox Static downgrades)>One Cadian Command Squad (Support, Lone Op) at 170 pts>last but not least, please Commissar Shitto (mandatory Warlord, 75mm base) for 200 pts, equipped with iconic BL Laspistol (Heavy, Assault, Hazardous, Lethal Hits, Pistol) and Combat knife (A8 S3 AP0 D1)>Announces "CADIA STANDS!" and rolls a 2 to go first
So what are my options if I want marine armour, but I hate levitating tech?
>>98571922whale economics. marines want other armies to beat, if those other armies are unplayable they get no players, nobody wants to play marine mirrors foreveralso history just proves you wrong. plenty of factions have been strong throughout the years. shit Orks are probably going to be top tier very soon
>>98572505The kit easy, it's an older one though so there may be some little gaps you'll need to address. I remember them being fun and simple to put together.
>>98572430>But if you look at it it's clear the Imperial factions are meant to be the faces of 40k while Chaos are the heels.Because GW is retarded and has done nothing but excessively wank off Chaos for like 15 years.Xenos are neglected presicely because GW is obsessed with Chaos and shoving that garbage everywhere.You'd be saying >That leaves chaos as midcard jobbers meant to fluff up the promos for other factions.If GW only pushed xenos and left Chaos on the way side and didn't do anything with it.
>>98572526I'd heard some bad stories about older vehicles like about gaps and warped plastic. Wasn't sure if the pred suffered it too. Will I want to kill myself painting this without an airbrush? I've never painted anything this big with so many flat panels before.
>>98572524Because now we have trazyn and even szarehk being chummy with everyone
>>98572447My dudes are renegades but pay their taxes. They just think primarchs are retards and everyone who follows a primarch is subhuman. They also overuse stims.
>>98572524It’s really not, they just mainly did more sketching in images. The early black library stuff was arguably even less grimdark since you had silly stuff like the ever infamous backflipping terminators, and the iron snakes books where a tac squad and a librarian killed thousands of dark aeldar, or when that chapter fought a bunch of orc cars with spears and grit probably mostly just recency bias
>>98572537No, it isn't4chan never posted soijaks until the 2016 election cycleYou braindead newnigger shitskin
>>98572540You get the new rhino and land raider and wait for the eventual refresh of predators and vindicators. There's 0% chance they remake the rhino and never remake the rhino based tanks.
>>98572567you sound pretty raped and mindbroken, you should go cry about it
>>98572537This place isn't sharty, go back there.
>>98572524most of the codex was in black and white so the artworks were darker, and also made by actual artists with their own gritty and/or stylistic flairs instead of cleaner illustrations of the models in the cheapest and fastest and common job possible.This gave a significant atmospheric artistic direction to the books which instructed the writers to be darker in writing as well, either by ramping up the shock value or the mystery.It has to be said that the 5th ed necron book was also mostly in black and white with good artworks, but it was written in an edition of very lore dense codexes with little in-setting pov and mostly word of god, also it was written by matt ward, who was basically a big warhammer fanboy getting handed the reins to have fun his way, and he had a lot of fun by adding wacky shenanigans into the faction, basically writing necrons as if they were orks, which clearly undermines the lovecraftian horror of the previous version.But if you want hard facts about how the fluff was retconned to make it less grimdark, it's mostly a matter of perception: we're in the age of tertiaries who think memes are to be taken at face value for what the extent of the setting is like.
>>98572547You don't need an airbrush. It can be done with a can of primer and layers of dry brushing for an even finish.There's videos about that out there.
>>98572469>legends>overcostedGuess I'm looking for new people to play with if I run this army instead of just having them on a shelf.Everyone I actively play with regularly is autistic about "only codex units" and they all play aggressive skew lists to try and table their opponent by turn 3 so fluff lists never last long; being tabled before the match ends EVERY game isn't my idea of fun, even if everything else in the process is.>>98572564>pay their taxesAnd therein lies the rub. I do genuinely just want early 20th century China-style warlords leading armies seizing territory and fighting between themselves over it, with both an outside central force (Imperium) trying to get them re-integrated and an outside opposing force (Chaos) trying to outright conquer them, with each of these warlords paying lip-service to both sides and to neither all depending on who they're talking to (read: scamming).Grav vehicles are also ugly as sin so I don't want to play loyalists on that alone
>>98572358>t-this is primaris, honest!Had almost zero to do with it, they just got new leadership that fixed all the retarded things they had been doing which a newfag like you knows nothing about. Primaris were actually leftovers from the retards who were sinking the company and causing all the problems that were making 40k fail, but at that point they were already too far down the production pipeline to cancel so they just had to grit their teeth and push them out like a constipated poop and deal with it. The decisions that made line go up didn't involve primaris miniatures at all.
>>98572362The mainstay factions of 40k are space marines, eldar, tyranids, and orks. Necrons were a great addition to that. It’s because of the huge variety and (((diversity))) that 40k is so successful.
>>98572622Do you mind telling the class how tall you are?
>>98572434People already analized this, line goes up with the 1st General Handbook (AoS gettign torunament rules for the 1st time)
>>98572575But what are the odds that the new kit is just a worse version of the old one? Fewer options and bits. Is there even anything wrong with the Predator scale-wise? Does it look small next to newer models?
>>98572540conversion prints
>>98572540Play HH where you have a selection of 7 different tracked tank variants that are all viable with multiple different weapon loadouts.Honestly, I don't get why GW don't just port half that shit over, lore aside, feels like free money for them.
>>98572588You REALLY need to go back newfag
>>98572632It's real life insecure manlets who like Primaris minis just because they're taller. Overcompensating little goblins lmao.
>>98572598The visual aspect of 40k changing from the days of Blanche's phenomenal work to the current more coherent style is just a case of edging out the rough spots that, while rough, were part of the charm, but now everything has to adhere to some Marketable style that's still fit for 40k, but it's not as raw and the scale does not feel as good as it used to be. But the setting itself is still grimdark and still features grim things like servitors or all that shit involving lobotomized people and even if Guilliman's return marked a start to him unfucking the imperium, he clearly hasn't done that to the point of leaving a lot of the shit that makes the imperium a shithole still runamok, such as the Ecclesiarchy and their rabid and insane culture.
>>98572642The treads look so much betterWhy is GW doing this grav memeYes it is just a Bradley with a flatter turret, but that's because the Bradley is the platonic ideal of an IFV
>>98572633>(AoS gettign torunament rules for the 1st time)It was much much more than that, IIRC the game was a borderline literally unplayable mess in any format before the General's Handbook.
>>98572642that's actually quite handsome, damn
Grav tech is xenos tech. Treads are for men
>>98572490the people who say they would never play xenos are the same people who complain about every game being marines mirror matches. I for one thank our xenos players
>>98572622You're delusional.By the mid 2010s, old marines and 40k rules were seen as stale as fuck, and 40k faced actual competition from other games with better proportioned minis.The 2017 AoS GHB + 40k 8th + marines visual refresh was what made GW become 4x the size they were after flatlining for more than a decade. There's no comparison.These changes were going to happen with the new CEO or without him.
>>98572604Yeah I hear stories from people and it always shocks me when they’re like this. Unless you’re just a dick people here don’t tend to have an issue running whatever. My first game of 10th was a guy running a bunch of red scorpions characters like the leviathan
>>98572641The only kit that had options was the predator and it has less variants than gladiators. I don't think there's anything to worry about.>s there even anything wrong with the Predator scale-wise? Does it look small next to newer models?No and I doubt they'll get a size change since bigger vehicles become a lot worse for gameplay. But the rhino kit is old and fits like shit like every other 20 year old vehicle kit. The 30k update for the rhino looks exactly the same but is really nice to build.
Hopefully my order will arrive friday so I can do a quick cheeky collage entry
>>98572642Link?
>>98572705If u put dead orks on ur base all the ritual posters will hunt you down
>>98572723Oh no, the ork wont be the one on the ground, don't worry. It's for a recreation of this scene.
>>98572694The part that really gets me is a few of them are 100% "rules for thee, not for me" about proxies tooOne guy runs a HH Contemptor Dreadnought as a Ballistus Dreadnought and we're all fine with it, but he won't let me run a HH Russ in my guard or let a different guy run HH Skitarii as 40k Skitarii.I get they're just being dicks about it, but holy fuck it grinds my gears. I know that my group "should" talk about it, but it's not easy to convince grown adults to tell someone they've known since they were 3 that he's an asshole and needs to stop being one or we won't invite him to play army men with us anymore.
>>98572748What can help is to ask him why. If he waffles, press him. If he dodges, press him. Keep doing it until he gives some sort of straight answer, any sort will do, then the next time he wants to proxy, just repeat his reasoning verbatim to him about why you're not allowing it, but suggest allowing proxying for all as an alternative solution.
>>98572748No those people aren’t human. Pull the grots out of their skin suits already damn
>>98572358>LOOK LOOK THIS CORPORATION IS MAKING MONEY THAT MEANS MY OPINION IS RIGHTyou have brown skin
>>98572748>he won't let me run a HH Russ in my guardwtf? why? They're just a different pattern that is also canonically used by Krieg and others in 40k
>>98572723>>98572734This is who is gonna be getting stomped
>>98572723Why?
>>98572779>nooo new marines did not save and made GW richer than ever! you have a brown soul
>>98572802>correlation = causation! correlation = causation! correlation = causation! still not beating the brown allegations
>>98572814Do you think GW would ever reverse course considering the data that they have? lmao, ignoring data for emotions is brown coded.
>>98572826odds are your English isn't good enough you can't even tell the difference between the words causation and correlation
>>98572802This argument is always so stupid. GW did a hundred changes in 8th edition and primaris are the least meaningful of them because marines always sell.
>>98572814>>98572830stop trying to use big words when you don't know when they apply or not, retardGW doing huge changes to their product lineups and seeing an inmediate success 4x over the last previous 20 years is cause and effect.You're an over emotional coonsomer that felts left out because daddy GW found younger and prettier bitches to milk
>>98572835>primaris are the least meaningful of them because marines always sell.Ah, yes. Making marinefags, their number 1 customers, buy again entire armies surely had no impact in GW's bottom lineXenofags are really delusional, lmao
>>98572734That's just how your average Ork shakes down a Bad Mood for his teef
>>98572839>GW doing huge changes to their product lineups and seeing an inmediate successyou mean the exact same time they ramped up their social media presence and marketing and completed a soft restructure of the company? it's almost like corporations do all these things at the same time as their big releases because economic success doesn't hinge on a single factor
>>98572846>buy again entire armiesyou just ousted yourself as a newfag that wasn't even around when Primaris first released
>>98572846Marinefags keep warhammer alive. Have some respect.
>>98572846Marine sales are always and have always been 90% new player sales. New players have no army to rebuy. And every single model update makes people rebuy their stuff.
>>98572769Believe me, I've tried thatWe've had a lot of discourse that goes>"can I run -x HH model- as -x model-">"no, it's not recognizable">"okay, then no Contemptor">"but the guns are the same">"it's not a Ballistus, sorry :^)">"I don't understand"And then it stonewalls there, every time. It's easier to just let one guy be an asshole than it is to ruin the evening for 3 other dudes so we've just lived with it so far. I think it's finally worn a few of the others down recently so things might be changing for the better for me at least.I had to explain to him what an anecdote was during one conversation; I said something like "Custodes are tanky, so that's why some people, me included, don't really like to fight them" to which he replied "they're not tanky, I watched a Nids player kill 2 in one turn last week." I replied "an anecdote doesn't disprove a general statement," he replied "I didn't give an anecdote." I gave up after that.>>98572789If I knew, I'd tell you.All that said, I'm definitely going in on HH models as renegade marines. Just gotta re-learn what names are for what unit; "Obliterators" doesn't tell me something in my mind's eye like "Terminators" does for loyalists.
Chaos humiliation ritual continues
>>98572848That was something they had already done a few times in the past. You have to be utterly delusional if you think that pic related would have happened the same if GW left 40k unchanged.
>>98572862Supposed biggest threat to the galaxy, btw
>>98572839>inmediate>4x over the last previous 20 years>over emotional holy ESL batman
>>98572864>That was something they had already done a few times in the pastno it wasn't lmaoyou started around 2020 I'll wager
>>98571240>see slop>check steam>its realHoly fucking shit it's the rape of everything sacred, rape beyond measure
>>98572204That's my plan for my Marines. I think the marine helmets look cooler than heads.
>>98572860Anon, if that asshole plays dumb, you need to stand your ground.Tell him flatly that you'll play with the models you like and he'll have to deal with it. If he doesn't recongnize the models, he doesn't need to worry, you'll tell him. Every time.It's the only way to deal with passive agressive assholes
How do you go about playing what you like vs playing with what is not game losing? I enjoy games like warhammer 40k and kill team but I never want to be a pushover. However some factions / rules might be weaker in general even though I like them. How do you balance playing what you like vs playing not to be a pushover. I don't mind losing and I never meta chase but I don't like feeling as if I didn't put up a fight. Also, how much does army / faction thematics play a role in what you choose or how you play? Like lets say you enjoy Orkz but somehow the Orkz meta was to play them very conservatively and not aggressive at all in anyway. Would you find that fun or even thematic?
>>98572872If you think GW had no online presence before 2017, you out yourself as the election tourist you are
>>98572860Sorry to hear that, friend, my only playgroup is a Sisters player who is fair and a Guard player who at tournaments but hates the current WAACfagging that is expected of Guard right now, so he makes sure to balance his list out.
>>98572888You need to find like minded people and agree on avoiding WAAC shit and match each other's lists within reason
>>98572860>I said something like "Custodes are tanky, so that's why some people, me included, don't really like to fight them" to which he replied "they're not tanky, I watched a Nids player kill 2 in one turn last week."I'm sorry, but your friend is mentally disabled. Sub-80 IQ.
>>98572692>By the mid 2010s, old marines and 40k rules were seen as stale as fuckThe rules were because the people who took over midway through 4th had driven shit into the ground and made a bunch of monumentally stupid changes to force in superheavies so they could sell bigger and more plastic, yeah. Marines, not even close, you're a fucking newfag who knows nothing.>The 2017 AoS GHB + 40k 8thYes.>MarinesNo.
>>98572889I didn't say they didn't have anyI implied that their marketing sucked and they weren't effectively using social media. If you were older than 12 at the time, you'd be able to remember that many corporations were terrible at utilizing social media and GW was no exception, They eventually figured out that it was important and their reach improved drasticallyBut of course this is far too complex a concept for a brown person with 80 IQ
>>98572907Nta but you are a massive fucking retard if you think their biggest selling line getting a refresh had nothing to do with their recent success.Facts don't care about your feelings snowflake.
>>98572663Yeah pre 2016 GHB aos is the infamous "moustache rules" and "no points" era. I might be misremembering this but I'm pretty sure they didn't even have actual aos rules for most of the factions yet, they were using compendiums for empire, wood elves, ... instead of cities of sigmar and sylvaneth, etc.
>>98572919No, see, the part you don't understand, is that obviously new marine kits sell, but you are trying to argue that changing them to primaris designs is what MADE them sell. No it didn't. New upscaled Firstborn designs would have sold better. You are unable to compare the primaris sales to the hypothetical ones because primaris defenders like you are retards who cannot answer the breakfast question.
>>98572888Unless you are waacbrained, you will find that after the first few years of novelty, most veteran players lose complete interest in list building and the big reveal. Discussing your lists together before the game in order to ensure the match will be well rounded and suitable for the terrain setup you have will always lead to more fun games.
>>98572642I like both
>>98572925It was "guidelines" or some shitI'm pretty sure saying "waagh" during a game gave you re-rolls.
>>98572929If new upscaled firstborn would sell better then why isnt Heresy beating 40k in sales?
>>98572929Look at the mental gymnastics copers are using to deny how cool primaris are lmao
>Updated Warlock Conclave rules>No longer have Leader, only Support>Can't attach a Farseer to them>It's now required to attach the Warlocks to a Guardian squad, and only with a Farseer>Warlock Conclaves now cost 200p+ to fieldWhat the absolute fuck
>>98572907For marines, superheavies and flyers and the other stuff didn't change that their base units were all old and badly proportioned (subjective, but a common opinion). Actual players had more use for scouts as the troops tax than for tacticals. The primaris changes double combo of better proportions and new units 100% motivated old and new marinefags. It was also the whole reason a lot of elapsed marinefags came back.You could also have mentioned the great DG refresh, but again, you're an utterly delusional xenofag, lol
>>98572950GW's designers have lost their fucking mind, that's why. They're still nerfing Eldar as residual overreaction to 10e, increasing points costs while nerfing units, while at the same time handing out ridiculously good buffs to Orks and Marines. Apparently nobody bothered to remind GW that Eldar are now in the bottom 5 armies. The absolute state of GW.
>>98572889>election touristboy you sure do like this insult
>>98572945Nta but it's because normies think HH stuff isn't allowed in 40k. Scary and forbidden. They need strict rules. Following the herd. That's why every kit is monopose today, not just to save money in production.
>>98572945Cause they didn’t upscale the HH marines anon. They are still human sized.
>>98572917>>98572929>everything but marines, GW's biggest selling product since fucking 1987, was the reason behind their 2017+ sales boomYou're coping and in denial.It was a mix of factors, sure. But the biggest one by far, the one that dominated their marketing was "new marines".That's marketing 101 no matter how marinefags like me preferred the older designs.
>>98572938It was a messy time. Launch aos was truly weird.Though I have to say some of those joke rules were actually kind of cool. Like the skaven screaming bell ability stating that if you rolled a 13 on an unmodified 2d6 you instantly won the game.and no, you couldn't use kairos' ability to actually achieve this result
>>98572980>Elysianskino
>>98572950>can't have a Warlock lead a Warlock Conclave that then attaches to a unit of GuardiansFuck this gay earthGuardian Balling wasn't even good
>>9857297399.9% odds that retard came here around the end of 9th at bestA very common tactic with low IQs is to just parrot the things you call them without understanding why they were being called these things in the first pace. Especially common in SEAs and Indians
I just miss heroic scale.
>>98572985You are admitting yourself that marines sold the best before Primaris were even an idea. So the marines would have sold regardless.
>>98572980>using oversized elysiansPost a Goliath next to an intercessor, faggot
>>98572888Have a quick discussion beforehand to make sure things line up equally. LGS discords and facebook pages are great for this.Also just as another general thing, even armies that are "bad" at the moment who can't stand up in combat to the good stuff can still play recon and just play a completely separate game than the opponent. They can chase you around and kill your stuff all day, but you score by being in table quarters and doing actions and such things. If you can't stand and slug it out, then just don't. This is one of the nice things about 11th edition. But the first part is the real answer. Just mention what you have and estimate how strong it is together with your opponent, who will then do the same thing with his stuff.I know this is a cliche but it's absolutely true: At the end of the day, who wins is a lot less important than creating a satisfying narrative. Both players having moments where they do something impactful, or a score being close, or things coming down to dramatic eventful turns are all things that make 40k fun. Not the final score. Losing but it was close is fun, losing but learning a lesson is useful, winning while stomping is not fun, and winning but you used cringe bullshit is not fun.And I put my money where my mouth is in this regard by playing eldar, agents, guard, and sob who are all having various troubles in 11th edition. This game is so much more fun when you and your opponent look at it as recreating cool battles and how they might go in a storybook, rather than a strict game with a winner and a loser. You are mutually discovering which side of the conflict in the story you are creating wins, together. This shift in view I really think makes this game magnitudes more enjoyable.That all being said, going to tourneys with a good list is also fun, competition is fun too, but there's a time and a place for that and everyone has to agree.
>>98573003I've noticed that as well.
>>98572964Do eldar players even have the capacity for patience?Is it even possible for them to tolerate not being top tier for a little bit waiting for their codex release? Jfc
>>98573023Elf players across all systems throw their toys out of the cot when they aren't meta.
>>98573012You're an imbecile. Just upscaling marines wouldn't have made GW 4x more money.The visual and unit refresh was the reason. From infantry to vehicles, marinefags old and new bought everything. Neither would have happened otherwise.You don't have to like it to see the raw facts.
>>98572945>30k being less popular for a variety of reasons>Not marketed for 40k>GW doing everything they can to make most 30k units not compatible with 40kYou tell me.
>>98573038>Just upscaling marines wouldn't have made GW 4x more moneyAnd you still have 0 evidence of this except a graph and your fallacious third world speculation
>>98573023you could bait less obviously
>>98572945CSM, WE, DG and EC sell great though. So have the new terminators. What's your argument for that?
>>98573044Just wait for your codex man you’ll be fine
>>98573023hey this is maybe a hot take but GW shouldn't balance the game around autistic WAACfags and people should be able to enjoy having a casual list
>>98573038You do realize normal updates also make old players rebuy their shit, right?
>>98573052trolling outside /b/ is against the rules
>>98573014I don’t have any solar axilia but they are built in the same scale as Elysians, sorry did the best I can. Also humans can very wildly in height. The difference between that Elysian and the cadian is on par with someone who is 6’4” to someone who is 5’8”. That mk6 just looks like a human in power armour. Space marines are 8’ tall.
Are the Last Chancers novels worth reading? Never read Gav Thorpe's stuff, but he seems to have a pretty bad reputation when it comes to his novels. However, penal legions are cool.
>>98573062Talking about 4chan rules is off-topic posting which is against the rulesWe’re supposed to talk about warhammer 40k, like for instance I could aay that you should just be patient and wait for the eldar codex which will probably make them significantly stronger instead of crying about not being the best army in the game for 5 minutes
>>98573057If you’re playing casually balance doesn’t matter at all, just match your army’s approximate strength to your opponent’s and you’ll have a good game
>>98573072this post smells of dog cum and waterslide decals
>>98573070Last Chancers plays to Gav's strengths as a writer who is only capable of writing about incompetent misfits. Because it's about an actual incompetent band of misfits who screwed up somehow and ended up in a penal legion. It's far more entertaining than when he tries to write about serious characters like his HH books where he turns Primarchs (legendary superheroes) into dysfunctional retards that can't even follow basic siege strategies. It's entertaining as a series, but not particularly well written and largely forgettable.
>>98573078You’re an idiot
>>98573069Actually Space Marines are 9 feet tall
>>98573102
Would you get angry about seeing your dudes as corpses/trophies on another anons models? I'd be flattered if anything.
>>98573115Nah as long as it makes sense in the lore its coolIts weird if its legions that have never really interacted with eachother or something
>>98573108Correct.
I wonder if I should get some Vibro Cannons to deal with the marine toughness increase.
>>98573128Does this mean primaris are primarch sized
>>98573112Your meme is as stale as your paint jobs
>>98573115Yeah. It's just naturally in the spirit of fun and bants.
>>98573128That image is wildly inaccurate lolWhy is 1.8m like half of 2.95m
>>98573135so have you finished your hellblasters yet?
Votann bros, how important is the second Hekaton? I kinda want to just go get more Earthshakers and Einhyr bricks
>>98573077this>>98573057balance only really matters for tournaments. so of course its focused on waac fags.if you're playing casual games then you're playing with legends, or crucible characters or campaign rules or narrative missions all of which will all be difficult to balance across each other and with each other. so of course they're going to focus on the waac fag streamlined tournaments where they can actually get meaningful data.
>>98573078kek
>>98573143Very important. It's hard to really replace it as one of the few good sources of anti-armor firepower and as a way of transporting your heavier boys around the board. Votann really needs some more kits.
Why is the Deimos pred slightly cheaper than the regular pred? It's a newer kit.
>>98573143If you're running Hekatons you run at least two, but there are some lists running 3-4 Sagitaurs because of the detachment that gives them Scout 6".
>>98573115All my casualties were based off of my friends army.
>>98573152HH plastic kits are usually cheaper compared to 40k. I guess it's part of their player adoption strategy
Will havocs be t6 now?
>>98573042The evidence is that it fucking happened in reality, you only have wishful thinking and semantic games
>>98573185When they made actual upscaled firstborn instead of a primaris equivalent with terminators it sold like hotcakes. Where's your proof of the opposite?
If joke/reference wins I'll make a diorama of the basedjacks pointing at something meme. Dunno who should be pointing and at what though.
>>98573207CSMs pointing at a picture of Baelz.
>>98573185>The evidence is that it fucking happened in realityyou can't tell the difference between legitimate evidence and your own poorly thought-out speculation
firstbornlets seething about primarischadsOh yeah warhammer is on the comeup boys
>>98573207what armies do you have and which one is your favorite?
>kharn w/ 10 berserkers in a chaos rhino>juggerlord w/ 10 berserkers>MoE w/ 10 berserkers>slaughterbound w/ 3 exalted eightbound>2x 3 eightbound>3x 2 chaos spawn>10 jakhals>forgefiend>maulerfiendgood idea, yes?
>>98573203You have a single source prooving that terminators sold more than primaris?
>>98573211Maybe. But I think it could be fun leaving it to dubs too.
I like Tau! :D
>>98573222You have a single surce that says primaris are needed to make marnes sell? Because terminators prove otherwise.
>>98573220I have a lot of everything
>>98573226>they prove otherwise >still cannot provide a source Wheeze.
>>98573151Thunderkyn with their Anti-3+ guns aren't good enough?>>98573153I am concerned for my future. I wonder how badly our codex is gonna shake it up (in 3 and a half years)
>>98573203>>98573212>>98573226Dark imperium, Shadowspear, the BT refresh, Indomitus... The list goes on. It wasn't until recently with Leviathan that GW ran out of ideas again and finally began going back to Termies and Scouts. And that's only after selling loads of Gravis and Phobos, mind you.You confuse your feelings with the raw facts of GW sales growing more in a couple years than they ever did since the 90s.
I'm gonna be honest, I thought normal marines were squatted a long time ago and was always bummed out because I always wanted to collect a company's worth of space marines. More fool me, but at least I didn't give GW the extra money.
>space marine equipment are venerated holy relics that they worship>just toss them into the trash because cawl made new product its a bit on the nose
>>98573223He got dubs bro
>>98573240>firstborn whinger doesn't actually do the hobbyMore news at 11.
Am I high or is every other argument from a primarispiggy just salesfagging?
>>98573243Oh snap. Maybe I gotta do it then.
>>98573229two orks pointing at a baby squig. should be pretty easy because a lot of orks already have their mouths open.
>>98573248The whole argument is about sales.
>>98573235None of those prove that upscaled marines don't sell though. Those just had primaris.
>>98573235still can't get past correlation and causation, huh?
>>98573247Or I collect a different army dipshit.
>>98573248You’re just high
>>98573264Sure you do bud.
>>98573260How much did the heresy box sell again?
>>98573248Salesfagging is practically a national sport for subsapient thirdiesJust go look at any Famitsu thread in /v/
>>98573256I'm speaking broadly. It's usually either about sales or scales with them.
>>98573274You aren't, you are nitpicking an argument and being disingenuous. It's okay though, everyone can scroll up.
Boys boysAll that matters is what GW thinksThey are the ones with access to the levers of powerThey have decided that we are getting primarisAnd so that’s what we’re gettingLike it or not boysHere they come
>>98573280>I'm doing ___>"NUH UH NO YOU'RE NOT!!!"Do you have a number I can call whenever I want to schedule my posts, since you're this pissy and schizophrenic?
>>98573291>get called out>immediately lash outLmao
>>98573211Chaos idols took this post I guess.
real nomodels hours
>>98573306I'll paint when I get home anon.
>>98573299>see question you don't like>decide it's about you>decide to accuse me of shitting up your discussion (which I haven't even engaged with)>try to shit up my discussion in response
>>98573306Here's an Exalted Sorcerer for you, anon.
>>98572919If line went up due to space marine refresh, why is it a trend rather than a bump? It's almost like there was a change in the direction of the company that increased its customer base, not just a cash grab.
>>98573272Salesfagging seems to to generally be a mark of false interest or active disdain of whatever's being salesfagged about.t. nu-marathon salesfagger
>>98573317>See obvious shitpost >Correct it by saying the entire argument above was about sales>You proceed to have a melty because actual reality isn't the same as your mental delusions >Start slinging insults like a child(You)
>>98573306you lost the argument nigga just bow out
>>98573316nonce artist
>>98573331Yeah I forgot after 8th ed they refreshed the entire Mk7 line and squatted all primaris.
>decalnigger is one of the anti-Eldar schizosI should have seen that coming, but somehow I did not
>>98573336101ho_ is?
>>98573306Is there anything in particular you'd like to see?
>>98573334>you didn't book your post in advance so it has to be a shitpost>I'm accusing you of shitposting and making posts in bad faith off of nothing but you're the one having a meltyThe fact that my broad question personally angers you is more telling than any direct opinion expressed.
>>98572950no more guardians + warlock + conclave + farseer + heavy support weapon in one unit deathstars? You can only have a warlock or farseer + conclave leading them now?
>>98573316lolichad artist
>>98573362>every other argument from a primarispiggy just salesfagging?>not bad faith Just give up man, its sad at this point.
>>98573336People keep saying this but then it's always just drawings, what's up with that
>>98573381I think he drew some loli tau at some point
>>98573316I can't tell what this is supposed to be, there's a lott of eldar gizmos, but no slaanesh sigils
>>98573379You could have tried to refute my assumption instead of trying to browbeat me. In fact I invited people to refute my assumption.
>>98573402I already did. Thanks for confirming you can't read either LMAO. Anyways, no more shitting up the thread, last (You). I'll let you have the last reply, sounds like you desperately need it.
>>98573392so just drawings again, not anything real?Man we're gonna 'boy who cried wolf' into a legitimate pedo epidemic in a decade or so
>>98573379>>98573402Furthermore "I think primarisfags constantly talk about sales" contains zero bad faith. Unless by "bad faith" you mean "mean words."
so do you think these chinese recasts are good or will even come in the mail
>>98573336It's not mossa.
You know, the last time I was in a shop where they were running games was an lgs instead of a gw store. maybe I should have been buying chinese recasts the entire time instead of Official GW.
>buys>assembles>runs one game (no paint)>sells themWhy
>>98573441Got nerfed.
what's going on with these ugly things. Most people were selling for 42-45 a week ago. Did they get buffed or something.
>>98571243>>98571229HRUD MENTION
The best words come from putting any non-vowel letter before Ork
Which CWE units have been squatted in the past ~20 years?
>>98571265why is AuDHD the new buzzword every egirl who likes TADC claiming to have?
>>98573445wellHe should sell it for lessLol
>>98573455LE XD ECKS DEE XD XD ORKS! :DD XDXD XD
>>98573474What's the purpose of these posts?
>>98573477I assume being as obnoxious as the actual ritualposts
>>98573477I LIKE POSTS ECKS DEE :D
>>98573459Karandras, Illic, Corsair Reavers
>>98573477I just filter them, infinitely more annoying than a once-a-thread post about orks
>>98573477BECAUSE WE ALL LIKE ORKS XDXD
>>98573477I used to put “I like orkz” at the end of some of my shitposts to avoid being off topicClearly it eventually pissed this guy off enough to where now he spams that shitWhich is very funny to me
>>98573057>hey this is maybe a hot take but GW shouldn't balance the game around autistic WAACfags and people should be able to enjoy having a casual listNah, they should design around fun, casual lists, but balance around WAACfags. Especially now they're doing things like adjusting points specifically for spamming units, I don't see how balancing for competitive players harms casual play.
>>98573477passive aggressively making fun of the “I like orks :D” poster.
>>98573459Does the bonesinger count?
There's several i like orks posters in every thread now, and apparently the model poster is a fraud
It think orks are ok. Not my favorite but i suppose i like them a little. Baka.
Spurdo orks are funny at least.
Personally, I like orks. Don't think I'd collect them though.
I dont like orks :O :(
I like orks and I'd collect them but the only cheap ones are from the armageddon box
The only thing I like are primaris ultramarinesThankfully GW recognizes my superior taste and I am blessed with cool new stuff very frequently
>>98573512that's not passive my guy, that's active aggressive
>>98573518>the model poster is a fraudhow? did he commission his models like the mutie?
I have a strong fondness for Orks but I have no desire to collect or own them. Maybe that new Nazdreg or the dragster
>>98573528Hate Orks.
>vashtorr in the books>vashtorr in the gameswe are SO getting darkmech
>>98573570>regular AdMech, but now with a single upgrade sprue>and a single detachment in the AdMech CodexYour Dark Mechanicum, sir
Demon refresh when? I hope the tow team will make them.
imagine how insufferable orks would be if nu gw was making them from scratch
>>98573561Not the original poster, the original poster admitted he has no ork models
>>98573381
>>98573336all artists are nonces
Found my old Codex Eye of Terror and as a fun project decided to kitbash a Space Wolves Start Collecting with Red Corsair and CSM bits for a 13th company themed force. I remembered i bought Indomitus for the Necrons but friend didnt want the bikes so i have 3 of those i can swap stuff like the backpack, chest or arms out for chaos bits to match the look but i haven't played Space Marines since 8th edition, are bikes remotely viable now?
>>98573594kek good meme
>tfw the one anti ritual poster has buttblasted everyone in the thread so hard they filtered him before the actual ritual poster
>noncelarping as british because it is the warhammer general when every poster is from mogadishu
Started my second round ever of assembling models. you guys were right, it's a lot easier with the proper clippers rather than regular scissors. I had a question, though: in the instruction manual, parts 33 and 34 were mislabeled as each other (one was a left leg and one was a right). Is this very common?
>>98573615I'm American but sometimes steal Britishisms because they sound cool innit guv
>dexalfag is pro-primaris and a salesfagEw. Permaban is not enough
>>98573619Youns alright m8. You get an invite to the bake off.
>>98573415Well, the big controversy around mossa was that he drew some fetish commission that clearly referenced a specific irl case of a child who was brutally tortured, raped and murdered.
>>98573313This is how we save the guard
>>98573420It's bad faith to point out the flaws and weakness in his argument
>>98573621Sales stans are so funny because we have practically no reliable data about anything to do with sales but they will still go to bat for hours for their one anecdote.
>>98572275Orks, Terminators, among other units went up a base sizes and Chaos Space Marines literally got Legionaries which are primaris sized and yet noboby fucking complained.If GW just release newer marine kits in a slightly bigger scale it also would not have deleted 90% of a marine players army from 10 years ago like the current marine range now does because they replaced everything with primaris.
>>98573624Ive never seen any evidence of thisIts always just random accusations that change every time
>>98573637I can guarantee I'm the only person in this thread who has seen the sales data.Spoilers, it still tells fuck all.
>>98573616Are you sure they were mislabeled, or were they both in the same sprue cell and you mistook which number is associated with which part? Because I've not personally had them mislabel a piece. Put the number in a stupid spot sure, but not mislabel
>>98573615I sometimes use innit to put emphasis at the end of a sentence, but in a way where innit is never the right phrase. I just do it to annoy people, innit.
>>98573615Most of the posters in these threads are burgers, hence why posting becomes so horrible around that time
>>98573639https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vREXBIn8ieD8wNOQTr7Cv1E_JUB5wb48mqpDhmnLWQwREhFqoxOJYodv7-4MEebBS2PjmZDQtJcw_4E/pubread the google doc that inspired the mossa dogpile by these moralfag cucks. in it the original poster admits that Mossa didn't actually do anything wrong but it hurts their feelings so its okay to make a crusade saying that he traced child porn and other stuff in the comments of all his posts.
>New Intercessors with Anvil Siege Force will wound anything less than a Super-Heavy on 4+ at worstOh
>>98573661google doccy
>>98572888WAAC or not whenever Tau is involved the game becomes instantly competitive because the army is such an easy army to play that if the Tau player is doing nothing more than rolling dice like a retard with a casual list he'll still blow you off the table with sheer shooting power if you dont actually plan around it. I blame GW for giving the shooting army an army wide ignore cover baked into their army ability.Custodes and terminator heavy marine lists are also like this but for melee where they'll mulch your army if you just chuck any vaguely melee oriented unit such as boys into them with no further thinking.>>98572860That niggas just being retarded to give himself an advantage, either rules lawyer him or run it anyways without saying a word because his faggot ass will know its a leman russ and wont even blink at it being on the table unless you bring it up beforehand
>>98573587They would be female.
>>98573512>>98573559It's not just the footposting "I like Orks :D" guy he's targeting either, this dude just doesn't like any Ork poster and will spam reply threads with a lot of Ork content, model posting including, with the same post. It's like they have no sense of social norms, are utterly unaware that they are being more obnoxious than the posters that bother them and think this thread is just their personal toilet when things they don't like are in it ah fuck it's decalmutant isn't it
>>98573679The Taufag cannot shoot if you never stop rolling dice
>>98573637The most terrifying thing about statistics and studies is that the majority of normies do not have the mental capacity to understand what they actually mean.
We could just stop ritual posting and it would put an end to most of this nonsense
People could also stop ban evading
>>98573715tell the ritualposters that.I’m sure they’ll be happy to oblige :)
i can tell they're gonna ruin vashtorr eventually
Time for a new thread, ratfag can't wait to to taint it with a ritual post
>>98573715It's honestly mindblowing to me that these absolute fucking idiots keep up this bullshit despite seeing how it derails the thread.
I lige spesh orgsh
>>98573668Based on probabilities alone, a 10-man Intercessor squad will probably kill a Rhino outright themselves in 1 turn if they use the focused fire profile and are standing on an objective marker in the majority of cases.My math MAY be off by one or two though, ymmv on this statement.Either every vehicle is moving up in toughness AND every heavier weapon is nearly doubling their strength and damage, or there's no reason to run transports or heavy weapons.>>98573679>being retarded to give himself an advantageYea.>he says "I play what I think is cool">suspiciously only buys the "best" of whatever list>suspiciously only brings the "best" of whatever listIf I were willing to have a full inquisition-style trial, I'd insist he just goes to ChatGPT and asks it to give him "the strongest army roster."I got him to have to own up to being a shitter once by running 10x Arco-Flagellants (guaranteed 70 attack dice per turn with an attached priest) at him. He got pissy with "why do I have to roll so many dice" when his main strat he likes to run is 10x Infernus Marines with Vulkan He'Stan and an Ancient with Immolator just chewing through whatever is in front of them (up to 70 attacks per turn). He ate the crow that time, at least.
Any kill team enjoyers here? They released some data slate stuff today right? How was it? Did it change much?
>>98573772I enjoy kill team but im not up to date on this release
>>98573493Oh shit Illic got squatted? He's so irrelevent I didn't even notice lol.Fuck Alaitoc.
>>98573715>Do what I want and I'll stop ruining the threadAmazing how you always try and cast yourself as the mature adult when you post things like this.
>>98573785nta but i have to agree with him, fuck ritual posters
>>98573772ive got several kill team squads but never played it, is it FUN?
>>98573796I think it is great. I think it is more fun to focus on fewer models and paint fewer models but with more personal flair.
>>98573772Dumb question, why are there no changes to some of the older teams and what's the deal with 'seasons'? I want the Mandrakes but now I'm worried
>>98573791>ntaIt has a name, you know.
>>98573585They need to make daemonettes actually sexy again.
>>98573796Yeah its alot of fun in my opinion
>>98573785amazing how you always pretend there's only a single poster in this entire thread that hates ritualposting lmao
I should become a ritual poster for infinite free attentionGood excuse to buy some fumos with my favorite girls
>Cleaning out closet>Find old Kill Team Octarius box I bought for the two kill teams>It still has all the Ork terrain inside and unbuiltThanks Gork, this is pretty rad
>>98573766>10x Infernus Marines with Vulkan He'Stan and an Ancient with ImmolatorMake sure to laugh at him when Infernus drop down to 3 shots with blast.
>>98573802The kill team boxes get rolled into 40k stuff overtime. So some of the kill team specific sprues, can't be found once they "rotate out" or become "declassified". Rather, you'd have to buy whatever box the team gets rolled into. Like I think some of the units from the "Blooded" kill team got rolled into traitor guard. So things like the Enforcer and Chaos Ogryn got separated into separate boxes. So you might just be able to buy mandrakes still via whatever box they got rolled into. The older teams can still be played also. It is just eventually they may not get rule sets for future versions. However, certain teams are "evergreen" such as the primary Space Marines Team: Angels of Death.
>>98573684he originally started with only replying to the I like orks :D guy, but he’d never bite the bait, so he decided to expand his scope to all orks I guess. this is kind of schizo, but it could also be some weird machiavelli shit where he’s causing a massive problem related to the ritual poster and is now demanding the ritual poster stop in order to stop the XD posts >>98573715
>>98573805not that asshole?
>>98573814please GW, please refresh the octarius terrain.
>>98573800>>98573809ill have to give it a try at some point, i think my lgs has a small league for it but rarely hear much about it. is there a particular terrain setup for it?
>>98573817So the no changes means they're in a pretty good spot according the balance team and not that they're being basically ignored and treated as obseleted pieces?
>>98573823The terrain changes periodically by “seasons”Idk what it is now but previously it was volkus, the before that it was gallowdark and then before THAT it was bhetta decimaVolkus is the best of the three in my opinion
>>98573811I mean you're basically confirming you were samefagging by being this dumb. Nothing in >>98573805 implies that the anon being responded to is you.
>>98573818thats too schizo for me, even more schizo than that anon who thinks decalfag, XD poster and whoever else are all the same person
Thread drama the best drama
>>98573821There's a lot of terrain that was only around for a year or two before they got rid of it. Pretty wild considering how venerable the old ruins kit was before they replaced it.
>>98573816>3 shots with blastOh yea, it's all coming togetherI await him repainting his Salamanders to whatever marine chapter gets a new fotm meme build that floats around r*ddit so he can copy it.
>>98573783Please don't post my autistic daughter wife
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>>98573861This is why it's best to paint them as /your dudes/, even if it's a named character. So when you feel like running Dark Angels you can, and when you want to run a main chapter you can without having to own two full armies of space marines
>>98573871I've been trying to get this point across to him and the rest of my friends for years now, it doesn't work. I don't know if it's>lore autism>"I took a buzzfeed-tier 'what chapter are you'" quiz retardation>"I can only do what's canon" autism>lack of creativity>"I want to look like my character in SM2" retardationor what. Some people just don't engage with the homebrew side of the hobby. I make sure all my armies are /mydudes/, at least.
>>98573825Teams only get a certain amount of time of being tournament legal before being legends'd and eventually squatted.
>>98573694This got me thinking, is there a way to build an army list for any faction with the simple goal to have the absolute longest shooting phase possible?I've seen meme Tyranid lists that can reach like 200+ models in a table, but i don't think i've heard of someone making sure to put as much shooting as possible.
>>98574145technically you can get to about 190 guardsmen in 2k points, so if you get some rerolls you could do a lot of shooting but I think the best way to make it as long as possible would be to take as many different weapon profiles per unit as you can, so you have to constantly roll seperately and reference your datasheets to pad out time
>>98572692The new sculpts yes. Primaris Lore No.
>>98573796Yes, but it is as complex as 40k. So while once you know the rules its like 30 minute games. But it takes a minute.
>>98573177And Plague marines will be t7
