Cythai edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98636569>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:What has been your favourite warhammer kit to work with?Not necessarily talking visuals here, but rather customization, ease of use, amount of bits, etc.
>"Kruleboyz seem fun as fuck, maybe I should make them my first army?">Horde army>Can't use the coolest monster rider units because of the who goes first drop thing>Gameplaywise the army is bad>Cringe ass nay nay baby goblinsIDK bruh...
>TQBlightkings were fun before the refresh, but for an actual AOS native kit, the Pusgoyles are a close second. The wings are gonna fucking break no matter what though dawg. sylvaneths revenants are also quite fun to assemble.
>>98648721>TQIt's 40k, but the entire range of the Dark Eldar Kabalite/Wych stuff. They've got dynamic enough posing with effortless kitbashing compatibility between the kits. You can slap Scourge guns on Kabalites, Wych weapons on Kabalites, Reaver arms on Wyches, Reaver Helmets on an Archon, Wych Torsos on Kabalites, Kabalite torsos on Wych legs with a Scourge head, etc. The possibilities are nearly endless and should've been the gold standard for infantry kit design going forward. They're selectively bringing some of it back but many armies will still have to deal with gluing half a shoulder and torso to a third of a leg bit or something like that.
>>98648745Everything about this post is currently incorrect.
>>98648679Iirc grrm wrote all the mythic past lore for that game so I assume it's a more direct moorcockian influence. Martin's work is full of references, there's like 3 different elric clones in asoiaf alone. Not to mention valyria being essentially melnibone 2.0.>>98648687Eh idk anon, a mancrusher is more than twice the size of mollog, keep in mind the mancrusher has a somewhat leaning pose so he's even bigger than he appears here. And since miniatures are of course 3d, the difference in sprue space is bigger than you'd think just based on this alone too. AND on top of that, how the fuck would you get his base size to work (which is included on the sprue too by the way).Plus y'know a new mancrusher without any options would just fucking suck too.The only way I could see this working is if they downsize a mancrusher to like gate gargant level, which wouldn't be too bad of an idea in a vacuum (so we get 3 distinct giant sizes in SoB) but I still think underworlds would be a terrible way to go about it because of the customization problem mentioned above.*if* SoB ever appears in an UW warband it should be exodia style, have his arms and legs all be separate miniatures (like e.g. the foot of gork). Essentially twister the warband.
>>98648825>have his arms and legs all be separate miniatures (like e.g. the foot of gork). Essentially twister the warband.An incredible idea, if the suits could stomach such a deviation from a standard model kit
>>98648762I keep forgetting blightlords didn't come out with blight kings but a couple years after.I nominate picrel for nicest AoS kit the way everything fits together. Hard to do with more organic models.>>98648843I like to think they have some leeway because it's underworlds.
>>98648745>Can't use the monster rider units.Kragnos list love to run monster only lists.>Gameplay wise the army is badKruleboyz are the 3rd most army with 5 wins in Bo5s currently. Both monster mash & regular fist armies are actually placing really well rn.>Cringe ass nay nay baby goblinsThe majority of lists don't play them. Like at most they are screens.
>>98648843You can make it something more conventional by abusing magic>actually the 4 limbs aren't attached to a body over the board but are semicorporeal manifestations>because the witch giant cursed a megagarg to extreme smallness/a creeper found an artifact that would grant him greatness, if he knew how to use itand then players can ignore the premise and paint the parts as if they were flesh and bone and belonged to a giant over the board anyway
>>98648806Good choice. Totally understandable. For me it’s the Haemonculi and pain engines.>>98648825>grrm wrote all the mythic past lore for that game so I assume it's a more direct moorcockian influenceWe don’t actually know the extent of what he contributed to the game pretty sure so its hard to say for sure but there’s a lot of obvious stuff that shines through because of his love for certain tropes (not always for the best imo).
>>98648825Mollog wasn't on a sprue alone
>>98649100
I think it would be cool if the Idoneth started fielding prehistoric marine life too. Bring out the Liopleurodons and Mosasaurs. Go balls to the wall with the ocean stuff.
>>98649106look at how efficient the new sprue is and UW would streamline that and remove options. They could totally fit a Mancrusher in. I'd welcome it as a new warscroll or just a legends teaser for an upcoming full kit, it wouldn't be my ideal route BUT it's possible and GW might just do that instead.
>>98649100Of course, but two of those sprues are not going to be able to make a mancrusher unless you size em down significantly. Like I said, the mancrusher is more than twice as big in just height. The base alone would be half a sprue, and again, no real room for options which would fucking suck on a giant kit (if it indeed were meant to replace the mancrusher in actual AoS)
>>98649131Mollog + legs that would fit on the sprue is CoS Gargant sized minimum what're you smoking
>>98649124They can't have dinosaur-adjacent things because of lizardmen.They can have placoderms though.
>>98649142I don't think that's a limitation. It's not like the Seraphon are ever doing anything sea related.
if gw wanted to replace the mancrusher it would've happened this edition. mancrusher is safe for another two editions minimum
>>98649141Well CoS sized gargant is a different question, I think they'd be able to make that one fit just about.But regular mancrusher size absolutely not, let's be generous and say that mollog himself occupies 1 UW sprue (it's probably more like 115-120% eyeballing it, including the base), you're absolutely going to need more than two mollogs to do a mancrusher sized giant. (And again, that'd be without options)Besides, a singular giant would suck to play with in the actual underworlds game, and it does seem to me that warbands are first and foremost designed for uw with little to no care about how the units might translate into aos proper.
>>98648721Scourge Corsairs, they got me into AoS. I liked the wanderer prince, I liked the outriders, but those infantry sold me on the setting. The endless amounts of bits and the fact they looked good was incredible. Want to make your freeguild guard look more like pirates? Keep give them some leftover weapons and have the rest of the swords be machetes.And before you ask; I've pressed them into Wildecorps as the 'standard' units with their crossbows. Can't do fucking anything with deepstriking 30 skirmisher units but at least it's not Once Per Army Per Turn.
so when are we getting dark elves back??
>>98649207I hope you like slaanesh because it sounds like that’s where he’s going to end up being rather than with daughters of khaine.
>>98649207>>98649226Meant to post Melly boy.
>>98649207>>98649226>>98649238IF they ever do anything with Malerion, it'll mean having to do more with Slaanesh too & GW seems afraid to really go all in on that. We only get one boob for a reason & it's not thematic. They're afraid of being called phobes by accidentally making things too kinky.
>>98649207>>98649226>>98649238>malerion finally joins AoS in 5th edition>he's part of the long-awaited idoneth second waveHow do you react?
>>98649283If the new (a)elves are anything like the quest designs then itd probably make sense. Maybe it’s just me but the two aesthetics they have are a bit cohesive, but maybe I’ve just consumed too much high fantasy stuff.
>>98649179A UW sprue is >>98649129 half of that sprue which is basically more than a full Boss-Stomper which is bigger than a Mancrusher. If it's push fit, they'd reduce details for fewer parts, remove options, etc. It would definitely fit. It's delusional to think Mancrushers will remain on ovals even when everything else is rounds now.
>>98649129anyone who doubts that the new midcrushers are going to replace the old minicrushers eventually should look no further than the fact that the new ones have several weapons that are litereally identical to the minicrushers kit, like the tombstone club and the club of swords. not like kind of similar, identical. which is not something you'd do in an army with 4 kits if you expected all of them to stick around
I think I would like the Idoneth to get one more troop or Calvary unit before I buy into their faction. Eels and Sharks are cool, but I want crab riders, manta ray riders, and whale riders. I think that one model where the guy is riding a mythical sea monster is a waste of a model spot.
>>98649518CRABFORT
>>98649518How do you even grow up to have such retarded thoughts?
>>98649518i've seen some print designers do whales, crabs and mantas so if you can print, those designs are out there
>>98649383>an uw sprue is half of that sprueIs it? Look man I see mollog taking up a full UW sprue, a mancrusher is more than twice the height of mollog, simple as. Losing the oval base would only increase the footpront as long as they don't dip beneath 60, for comparison stompers are on 80mms. So are the significantly smaller gate gargants.Again, a mancrusher would also be a retarded inclusion in the actual underworlds game. They're not doing a mancrusher refresh via underworlds lol.
>>98649124They have a lot of options with just modern ocean stuff (do they even have any jellyfish or anemones or something) but yeah the amount of units they could use is pretty high if you dig that far back
>>98649283Could be pleasant, but it'd more likely be idk getting souped into unloved elves.
>>98649021EXODIA, OBLITERATE!
>>98648485Very interesting stuff. I know there's already gorgers but it'd be cool if their societal downfall was told though the model waves and as time went on they released increasingly messed up and single minded ogors. Maybe bring back the slaughterpriest or something
Does anyone have the PDF for the Age of Sigmar Ultimate Guide? I tried looking for it in previous threads, but the link was already dead.
Didn’t the Ogre Mantrapper come from Underworlds? I wonder if the other factions will get theirs as regular units eventually. Not already just copying Kill Team wholesale in that regard is wild to me.
>>98650239https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/d-k-publishing/pdf-epub-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-the-ultimate-guide-download/
>>98650427skaven have the plaguepack as a regular unit now as well
>>98650427So many armies would be in a better spot if underworlds werent in this weird spot of being legends for no reason.
It annoys me that everything is different flavors of wojaks now. It wasn't always like that.
>>98650427Yeah, but it's a weird one.The named Mantrapper is Legends. The generic Mantrapper isn't. Whatever fucking sense that makes.
>>98650534Before that it was uh…fuck what was it. I genuinely can’t remember what the internet was like before 2016. Was it just those meme templates with upper and bottom text?
>>98649021Holy kino
>>98648937>Kragnos listwaac-fag
>>98650590funny aos shitpost art but it's big red booty squig. sacrifices were made...
>>98650534It was just cavemen wojaks
>>98650615>>98650534>Which way western man
>>98650615Amazing how Trollface survived the great Rage Comic extinction. The most appropriate one to do it
>>98650601>no response to the other pointsConcession accepted, concern-trolling rejected.
grungni bros...
>>98650800Grungi hyping up the armor for the cool new warriors Sigmar was planning to make only to reveal this
>>98650427The Slanesh demons also are from underworlds and were released in a big box now.I honestly like those 1 fat guy with lots of little critters as tokens for AoS. The other Underworlds warbands I don't like that much in AoS, specially when the model composition of the unit are vastly different.
>>98649452Mancrushers were changed into a unit of 1 points gap filler. They were technically replaced in that respect. You aren't expected to run 3+ Mancrushers now, just 1 or 2 to fill points
>>98651042namarti are so cool bros
>>98651048Literally 0 of them there
when are we getting a unit of the sentient mushrooms that accompany the underworlds troll? they can release a new shaman and rebrand the fungoid to synergize with them
>>98651102here
>>98651042How hard would it be to sculpt some teeth on the eels.
>>98651149Grots and Orcs are mushrooms too if you want to be a retard
>>98651151Very, depending on the amount and size.A cheatcode would be to make the teeth out of spare bits with flowing hair, since you can cut the tips and use those.
>>98651187But only squigs are squigs.And that thing is a squig.
>>98651151Everyone makes teeth from scraps of greenstuff. You just roll little balls into sausages and shape. Cut or sand when dry (if you add miliput) for more precise forms. The problem is putting them in. Drill a hole, place some greenstuff inside to embed it, insert the tooth and fiddle endlessly to get the shape right. After it has cured, put some greenstuff around to sculpt gums wrapping around the tooth
>>98651195Actually it is not. It's a Spiteshroom. The stalagsquig is a squig
>>98651205>It's a SpiteshroomWhich is a squig.
discord told me they're killing the ancestor gods to replace them with a trans poc dwarf deity instead? wtf is going on in age of sigmar
>>98651211Then orcs and grots are squigs too. Nothing says it's a squig. All squigs are fungus but not every fungus is a squig. Anyway you're autistic. I hope we get a Spiteshroom unit.
>>98651217>Nothing says it's a squig.Except the fact it's a squiggly creature.
*cough*
>>98651223>book
>>98651212>discord
>>98651187Grab some random evil fungus stl and use them as squig herds
>>98650427There's a bunch of recycled underworlds units. Snarlboss and retinue, sunblood pack, mantrapper, plaguepack, thricefold discord, ... I'm sure there's one or two more I'm forgetting. Some of them fit better than others though.>>98651102Mollog would've been cool to have as a unit in general desu>>98651212I hope a discord like this actually exists, where they rile up tards with random shit and see how much they can add before they stop believing. Sounds fun.
Why are we doing Squigs=shrooms, when Gitz already = shrooms?
>>98651259gitz are squigs
>>98651259Because the bingo card must be updated.
>>98651246They don't need to do that because squigs are already mushrooms. The mushroom is a squiggly creature. He has what he wants already.
>>98651246is 3d printing resin really so expensive or is £18 a fair material cost + little profit price for these?
>>98651288They who?
>>98651276/aosg/ ain't free. The bingo of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the musings of retards.
>>98651304The guy asking for a "spiteshroom" unit. Gloomspite literally have a mushroom unit already it is called Squig Herd.
>>98651310>The guy asking for a "spiteshroom" unit.Do you know him?
>>98651327Yes he's Dave
>>98651327he's my girlfriend
>>98651151>>98651190Sculpt them into a rough tooth shape then finish by cutting and sanding once the putty has cured. It's easy, unlike trying to get them right by just sculpting.
Now that we know the base sizes apparently stompers aren't even bigger than crushers lol what's going on.Though there's always the possability they're on 90's (like maegran) and they just fucked up in the battle profiles.
>>98651409They're less points, so it makes sens
>>98651409>minicompareaye gw are lying about it
>>98651409>stompers aren't even bigger than crushersI told you
>>98651420Does that look like minicompare to you anon
>>98651340insane the levels of soulkino the nu ogres have. wonder what bits this guy used for the cannon barrels
>>98651435probably some musician's trumpet
>>98651431just as bad, the Mancrusher is shit from an angle
>>98651409do you think the hag lady will be available as a merc or RoR? i dont want to collect a whole gargants army but that models cool
>>98651460no
>>98651460Named leaders are rarely RoRs. If ever
>>98651460I doubt it. Can run her as a proxy for either the mega or the mancrusher RoR's though, provided you have some spare bases laying around
Minigame stuffhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yiqybtvc/see-how-brawlers-of-behemat-works/
I'm surprised we haven't seen any new art yet
>>98651470Ushoran has one iirc>>98651489Do they still have to do the friday art showcase for SoB?
>>98651514No they alreasy did SoB, bit that wouldn't have new art anyway, as seen by ogors
>>98651484I'm worried AoS will be discontinued and only live on as expansions for this. It seems like the perfect Kaiju game. I reckon most of AoS will shift to TOW but the monsters will stay for Brawlers of Sigmar
>>98651489Hopefully they'll allow all the unused storybook art into the Tome this time
>can't take Gotrek in Allies of the Free CitiesThere goes my list
98651544the most weak concern troll yet?
>>98651574Such a half-assed AoR that was.>>98651588I feel like the last thing a tow player would want is stuff like stormcast or kharadron ported over to their game. Incredible /v/ermin self-report really.
>>98651484Is this different from the 40k one?
>>98651588I'm not trolling this looks like the best game GW has ever made.. just wow Do we know when it's getting more stuff yet? I'm planning homebrew but I mean new models build specifically for it
>>98651600kek yeah, i've actually gotten through to one or two grogs who were like "i wish warhammer fantasy never ended!" by pointing out if it didn't end, stormcast would've been put in it. honestly, as a fan of both settings, aos being a sequel set in a different world is literally the best thing that could've happened for fantasy>>98651611ok well assuming you aren't, no, i don't think it'll get more stuff. gw has this weird tendency to make actually quite interesting or fun side games which are only sold in one box and then never addressed again. they did it for 40k a few times with this game's spiritual predecessor, where you got two knights in a box and fought, it had a battletech inspired aiming system where going for center mass was most reliable because you had a weapon spread chart and such, it was neat, but they never added future knights to it or anything
>>98648721>picSouless FREAKS!
>>98651656I mean the dude in the pic is specifically made up of a bunch of souls
>>98651042What are they saying>>98651212>least obvious towdler wishful thinking
>>98651484Looks like it will get extra support in WD
>>98651710>What are they sayingYou know you can just copy past images into google translate now?
>>98651649Yeah I mean obviously the end times were handled less than stellar, but *if* they never decided to go that route they would've ended up doing a bunch of changes that would turn whfb into something quite close to AoS anyway.Stormcast would've almost definitely been introduced as the order equivalent for chaos warriors, basically the desigated beginner faction. Though probably maybe a little less uber high fantasy art deco, and closer to blanche's more 'knightly' designs.
>>98651514Death just kinda does that though, it's because the mortarch's all gotta play nice with each other anyways.
>>98651272No
>>98650615Ultimatly how was this different from a soijak traced from a real photo?
Apparently there's to be a preview show next fridayAre you ready?
>>98651804where is this announced
>>98651820nowhere
>>98651820Guy on tga with connections seems to think so
GOOD NEWS ANONS, gun arms fit very nicely onto normal chorf bodies. So the leftover spear dudes I had can get some use!
>>98651901did you have any trouble with getting any particular guns onto the bodies? Also you probably should have painted them with the guns separate from them.
>>98651901For a nanosecond i thoght Legion Anon came back
>>98651859That's my uncle, he works at the insane asylum as a pacient
>>98651908>Also you probably should have painted them with the guns separate from them.I'll suffer and that's fine, I tend to not wanna have to sub assemble infantry. Rule of thumb is, if I can't reach it easily, no one's gonna say it anyways. BUT, no it was a pretty easy slot in. didn't have to do any slicing maybe just a bit of force bending to let em slide onto things and then a bit of my testors to goop em and fill in any gaps.>>98651914Alas, I'm just the guy who got a bunch of these really cheap and have been kinda assembling and getting everything put together!
>>98651901I'm happy for you anon. I assume the flamethrower option is basically the same deal?
>>98651939more or less ye, I just put the flamethrowers onto the regular bodies. There was a bit of a struggle getting a few beards to fit I should say, same with the cool leader lady with the fancy hat her little... bib(?) thingy kinda takes up space with the spear guy bodies but otherwise yeah it's a very easy kitbash.
>>98651820It's not actually confirmed or anything, but one of the tga leaker people is saying they'll announce their new paints next friday. Given they only really reveal stuff on mondays or in preview shows, it's not a bad guess.The guy is pretty reliable too. Unlike the other guys he mostly just leaks more practical business stuff. For example he's the same guy who said they're replacing mini of the month with a new system, and lo and behold the scout guy is apparently the last one before the revamp the system.
>>98651970>their new paintsPleas no more. I already can't find the same colours i used for my stuff few yeas ago
>>98651970>their new paintseughe
>>98651984>>98652003It's apparently supposed to be like their new range of premium level paints or some shit
>>98652013Sounds useless
>>98652013>We've put them in drop bottles
>>98651804Only if it's the end of edition campaign which is going to be pure slop but I want to see if there is a new arkhan. Given the rumors of 3 books I'm going to say they're going to get sales out of khalazid holds and seraphon before they announce the eoe campaign early next year. They probably don't want to risk scaring potential buyers for a wait and see approach when it comes to the games setting revamp and whatever that entails.
>>98652149Isn't Arkhan still dead in the void?
>>98652158Yup gw likes to foreshadow their future products in their brochures they write. Or if something inconvenient happens they'll just kill them off screen like beastman or send them to the farm like sancrosanct.
>>986521493 books sounds rather small for all the shit they have to cover. End times got like 5 iirc?
>>98652241Beastmen didn't have the lore change, they're still around in fluff, GW just went 'fuck you, no more rules'
Did AOS have a EOE campaign before it transitioned to 2e?
>>98652349Malign Portents was a thing. A very big thing at the time.
>>98652349Malign portents. I think DoK and IDK were also released right before 2nd dropped.
>>98652349As eveyone said, we got 4 special heroes in build up to 4e
>>98652377Does that mean 4th edition might be the one edition where elves dont get anything at the end of it.
>>98652445Inb4 tyrion
ANON'S I'M BORED, I've decreed you make a tier list for your faction of choice. I don't care how objective it is, this is entirely based on your own personal biases.
>>98652514Akhelians in A-TierIsharanns in A-TierNamarti in B-TierEverything else in A-Tier
>>98652514>I'M BORED >tier listYou must want to kill yourself from boredom now
>>98652514
>>98652557I play FEC, i'm perpetually on the verge of killing myself anon.>>98652558Skumdrekk is the shit, I love mancatchers as weapons.
>>98650444Thanks for the link.
>>98652562>>98652558
What’s everyone’s favorite paints to paint warp stone?
>>98652514I'm phoneposting on my commute so forgive the formating here. It's also just based on coolness factor rather than tabletop performance.Oh also for the absent units I'd put mathaela, the ikons and the thrallmaster in C (swell), while the fincarnate can join the allopex.
>>98652252haha I goon
daw fuck the book leaked, unfortunately the only person streaming it is the DSP looking guy.Also apparently gargs are losing auto death protection and long shanks.
>>98652863>losing long shanksWait how the fuck does that work? Going to be a massive paint in the ass to move around with it no?
>>98651340Who made these? I tried googling the filename but can't find anything
>>98652946https://www.instagram.com/p/DdCdNbrhI8p/
>>98652863What even has auto death anymore? back in the day every faggot with an axe auto killed on 6
Hammer throw is pretty soulful.
>>98653012What's it do
>>98653026
>>98653037Lel that's pretty fun
>>98653037
>>98653037Not sure why the visable line needs to be there. Why can't he yeet him over a wall?
>>98652937Looks like there's a once per turn army, with a random roll attached to maybe allow one giant per turn to fly, maybe. So totally fine. For real though, looking at those army abilities are making me angry, and I don't even care about SoB much, it's just pure 4E shittery.
>>98653115I genuinely despise 4e's obsession with making so many abilities contingent on a die roll to actually function. Because apparently it's way too broken to just have things work consistently, you NEED to have the chance for your army/unit abilities to do literally nothing for an entire game.And the weirdest part is, basically everything has this problem, so it's not a case of "Well if we got rid of it, it'd make X army/unit disproportionately strong" since getting rid of it would buff everything roughly equally.
>>98653115>>98653136isn't the "on a 4+", on the total 3d6 roll? meaning it's not going off only in the case of triple 1s?
>>98653145Yes, it's just againt Nat 1
>>98653136Unless you're LRL, then you get to do things for free.
>>98653145For some abilities, maybe. All the army abilities are "roll higher than the number of targets picked on a d6" for some fucking reason. Which means you can play the odds by always picking one target, but that's boring.
>>98653037Mancrushers are taller than the others! What the heck!
so wait, are the Gyrochs their own profile or are they rolled in with the foid.
>>98653226Rolled in but separate warscrolls
>>98653216the others come in units, you can't expect the mega to throw all 3 together
>>98653248it says the new little guys can do it too! Bullshit they can, the Mancrusher is taller than they are!
>>98652252this artist's stuff is very cute :)
>>98653255
Not really feeling the new gargant units or the behemet changes in general. I might start a butcher themed list for ogors instead. Did they ever fix that one issue with redd's main gimmick not working with the mawseeker gallop AOR?
>>98653374They dont put out fixes until like every 4 months or something like that.
jesus christ what did they do to sons
>>98651484So what's the price meant to be on this anyway?Two £135 minis (plus terrain). Has to be at least £200, right?
>>98653390Point cost reductions and health reductions. Much bigger focus on little ones so less support overall for mega gargants.
>>98653410great...
>>98653408£195, I think.
>>98653439That would certainly not be unreasonable.If it's about that price point I might pick it up just to make a zombie giant out of one.
>>98653136Man I thought we were past the point of shitty "on 3+, once per army" tier tomes by now, what gives? Nighthaunt writer?>>98653408195 gbp, iirc. All new SoB prices were posted two threads ago if you wanna check.
>>98653037Very whimsical, there should be more stuff like this
>>98653468>>98653439Checks out, thanks.
>>98653465It's a pretty big discount from buying two megas, sure. But bear in mind that you don't get the sprues for Brodd & the beastsmasher.
>>98653255>>98653037The implication I suppose is that a gargant lifts much more than his own weight, which makes them truly horrifying forces.
>>98653583there's no implicationit's just a compromise
>>98653598It's more fun to take it literally
He cuteThese things are big enough to work as stonehorn/thundertusk proxies right?
>>98653620They’re smaller I think if the base size is anything to go by
>>98653620They're significantly smallerBut I wouldn't fault you for putting an ogre on one anyway
Ain't nuffin better'n a kraken-eater
>>98653646HE DOESN'T EVEN KICK THE OBJECTIVE ANYMORE, NOR DOES HE USE HIS SACK.What the fuck is this release
>>98653660The sack is an artefact.
>>98653686they really just killed any urge I had to pick my gargants back up jesus christ
>>98653686Damn they gnoblarred his sack
>>98653711
>>98653686Someone really, really, really needs to sit down with GW rules guys and be like "Please, please, please god make them soulful and fun by default"
>>98653726Sons of behemat especially so. There's like 10 scrolls to manage at best surely you can afford to spend some more time on them.
>>98652252>>98653258Please post more this is great and on topic :)
>>98651916kek
Whatever happened with these two?
>>98653620>Long ago gargant civilisation tamed all sorts of massive beastsI wonder if we'll see more animal units at some point
>>98653787They’re working at the sneed store
>>98650444Hey friends, do me a huge favor: could someone convert that PDF into JPG images (2550x3298) and upload the resulting images to a Mega folder? Please?
>>98653583I mean I feel like that should go without saying? A lot of things seem capable of that
>>98652484But i want Aenarion…
>>98653770more on-topic than the weird zelda oot arguments that were going on in here
>>98653805Morathi vored him.
>>98653825What was the meme again? Gitmob came from breath of the wild or something?
Who's excited for the new sons of Behemat tome! Almost as good as GSG or NH's!
>>98653787Nothing, they failed to live up to their own hype, miserably failed at their one introductory task, bullied belakor in one paragraph, and then retroactively claimed elf racism is happening thanks to them
>>98653793What the fuck just how big is hammerhal?
>>98653892Rough calculations put the aqshy side at the size of the tokyo conurbation
>>98653892Best not to think too much about matters of scale in AoS, the studio certainly doesn't.
Speaking of scale, do we have any more of these panoramic overviews of cities (or other relevant locations)? I remember there being one for anvilgard back in the day, ulfenkarn too.That's something I would really appreciate more of in aos. Give me a nice two page spread of a seraphon temple ship or a kharadron skyport or something
>>98652514What's wrong with Vargluf? Also, the ones you have in Crazy Okay should be swapped with I'm not crazy about them.
>>98653787all of them have been purchased and painted by one man.
>>98653787Their stated short term goal was stroaking racial greevanves to disolve the allience between men and aelfs.I wonder if that reflects in any way on recent lore, hmmmm?
>>98654114>VarglufIt being swapped from a hero really fucked with it, now it's just a slightly too pricey beat stick that isn't really worth it.And also I think all the non Abhorrent heroes are mediocre. ( I could probably bump the dragon up a tier admittedly)
>>98653726I feel like it wouldn’t be so hard to write the tome with more flavorful games in mind and simply label rules updates as being for tournament play. I believe they would need to explicitly make that distinction to have fun books and “balanced” digital rules for tournamentfags, otherwise rules writers will be too timid to do something interesting as the baseline.
It wouldnt be so hard if AOS just made it so that it was built on rules bashing.
>>98653829wtf… it’s not fair ‘narionbros…
>>98653892It’s huge. Just like everything else in AoS. Things being huge is arguably its most defining characteristic. The Stormrift Gate also utterly dwarfs any structures around it which you can’t really see from that image.
>>98654383These stormies are pretty cool, are they supposed to be praetorians?
My LGS is having a spearhead tourney on Saturday, which would be the funnest to jump into it with? I know nothing about 4e.>Bloodwind Legion>Warpspark Clawpack>Gnawfest Clawpack>Tzaangor Warflock>Vigilant Brotherhood>Yndrasta's Spearhead
>>98653853I genuinely believe is every single ability that triggers on rolling a 2+ on a d3 happened automatically AoS would be significantly better as a game
>>98654595Uhh you gonna play with blank minis?
>>98654613Mostly just what I've already got from 3e and thousand sons in Tzaangors' case. The only thing I'd have to proxy is the stormcast chariot for Yndrasta's team.
>>98654619Then it'd make sense to get an army fitting what you already got.
>>98654595If you already have it painted, likely bloodwind legion. If not I would just dig out either of the skaven spearheads.
Speaking of spearheads, you guys figure they'll do a cull at some point (probably once 5th rolls around)?Bit of a conundrum because I feel like one of the strengths of spearhead is that it allows you to dip your toes into an army that you otherwise wouldn't collect, but can still play with via this gamemode. Like I don't like tzeentch enough to start a whole 2k army, but a single €120 box of tzaangors is a lot more appealing. But that does mean that removing the spearhead rules for this box is going to sting even more for those people, because now you're left with 4 units you don't have a rule for. On the other hand, one of spearhead's strengths is good balance (relative anyway), and the more of them you add the harder that becomes to maintain. Add on top of that GW's desire for a product cycle (see kill team) it does lend me to have a somewhat cynical view here.There's a couple of spearheads out with culled units (dok, ogres) too at this point, which I don't see surviving long.There's two possible solutions here, though unfortunately I think neither is very likely.First is the easiest (and least effective) one, just bring back the ally system instead of curated RoR's, this would at least allow you to run your spearhead units in your other armies. Doesn't address the spearhead issue itself though.Second option is introducing custom spearheads, something like battle march where you essentially build a ~650 point army with additional restrictions. Gw could still bring out bespoke discount boxes but they wouldn't be the only way to play the gamemode. This would significantly alter the core idea of spearhead though, with both pros and cons, but it's probably a bit too drastic of a change for gw.
>>98654767I think TOW might be seen by James as their ‘crunchy’ game and AoS the ‘accessible’ game. As such I can see spearhead remaining, but not custom ones. If anything happens the older spearheads will be left to wither or updated via WD
PITCH THE FIMIR(ach) without explicitly mentioning the rapewhile still suggesting it occursand adapting them to AoS' brand of high fantasywithout stepping on the Kruleboys or the idoneth's schticksGO
>>98654767GW can just keep rules around for older spearheads that aren't for sale anymore, it's what they've long done for both AoS and 40K. A spearhead is just a predetermined selection of models, unless some of the models are squatted the discount box not being around is at worst a minor inconvenience.
>>98654767They haven't even done that for 40k and its by far the most ignored part of 11th. So nah. Even speaerheads with the squatted stuff has stuck around, and probably still will, they'll likely just get powercrept eventually where you wouldnt want to run them. I could see them making spearhead incorporate an optional narrative thing that encourages you to play into a full army later on, but aside from that I just think spearhead will be more of the same.
>>98654789Put them in kruelboyz and sons and have them incorporate the albion stuff that kragnos and the new giant bitch has on them.
>>98654838Im kind of sad AoS didn’t do more with the Albion honestly
>>98654981Well they’re not gonna do much with a continent that barely existed in fantasy to begin with.
>>98654981I mean we did just get ma maegran
>>98654992>ma maegranNOT MUH MEARGH!
>>98654992In a similar vein, a Celtic/woad warrior themed gargant army with her at the center would be cool. Please forgive my shitty MS Paint job
>>98654789Super-Isolationist race aligned with destruction that figured out how to use the fear of other races to distort local space and create localized sub-realms of nightmares (Essentially areas in the realms that are bigger on the inside and extra shitty), among other effects.Have an EXTREMELY strong anti-chaos bent due to past grievances, and have some weapons and magics that can directly damage souls as a way of denying chaos what it wants (and also keep daemons from respawning), though their general demeanor keeps them allying from the races of Order. And to be honest, I'd just rework how their reproduction works altogether and make it so they live in clans that either have a couple of strong female spellcasters in charge, a decent amount of martially-inclined males, and the normal warrors and shearls being infertile, or clans led by a handful of strong, martially inclined males, a decent amount of female spellcasters, and the bulk being sterile warriors and shearls. Their fucked up gender ratios and reproduction is an artifact of when they used to be enslaved by chaos, with chaos probably being responsible for the problem AND offering the 'solution'
>>98655325there we go an effortpostnot bad
>>98653726desu I feel like sons rules I've seen are more soulful than that writer's usual output, but his design sucks because it's always rolls behind rolls or restrictions for meager payoffs.This is slightly better than his spite tome he wrote for NH & OBR that basically took shit away without replacing it with anything and didn't even compensate with points. I feel for people who bought into gargants who wanted to play their 4 dudes and smash shit.100% sure this guy wrote helsmith, khorne, sylvaneth, obr, nh, parts of soulblight and parts of the sce book. His style is so shitty it's super obvious when he writes a scroll because it has non sensical math behind it and the synergies are always 3+ rolls. It's literally like they were a down a designer and brought in someone from the 40k team who doesn't play and just looked at the model, and wrote the rules on a napkin.The shit part is that Matt Rose is not on the team anymore so it's gonna be this guy for a good portion of 5e tomes as well.
>>98655330Thanks. It's something I've mulled over a few times before, so that's why it's rather longer than others. I also forgot to note that they're extremely good at not being seen if they don't want to, to the point that among the civilized parts of the realms (And some uncivilized) they're viewed as a sort of cryptid. Specifically one that no one can quite fully agree on how they look since they'd naturally have a small cadre of nightmare beasties that they march to war with. Like Nuckalevees.
>>98655344>I feel for people who bought into gargants who wanted to play their 4 dudes and smash shit.I'm explicitly that guy, whoever this guy is needs to be fucking strung up. Having ANOTHER faction I enjoy getting fucked really REALLY bums me out. I'd be 3 for 3 on what you listed if I hadn't traded away my OBR.
>>98653726Sorry Anon, flavorful rules are too hard to balance in the extremely competitive environment of AoSYou can roll a d3 instead
>>98655355THERE WE GO NUCKELAVEE MENTIONEDLET'S GOI've always thought they needed an equivalent of the Nuckelavee as a centerpiece model if they had an AoS army
>>98655344Like, to a degree I can see cutting things from scrolls in most books. After all, when you've got a bunch of different units on the table having each unit only have one or two things it can do REALLY streamlines things and minimizes reference bouncing. But this is an army where the average army is literally 4 big fucks. They can both afford to have a lot of abilities on their scrolls and DESERVE a lot of abilities on their scrolls.
>>98655378I would actually have Nuckaleavee be the cav for the faction, with the normal Fimir mostly being footsloggers and them MAYBE getting a couple of chariots or a guy on some sort of magical construct (Like a special menhir that does... something wizard-y).
>>98655133Infinitely better then the AI slopjobs I see people posting
>>98655395the Nuckelavee is supposed to be huge and spread plagues though, it'd be pretty lame to reduce it like that, when the regular version is already so badass. Usually in warhammer it's the other way around.For cavalry, you need selkiesthe chariots and menhirs sound cool though.
>>98652252>>98653258This artist makes me want to try Skaven now.
>>98654986That’s why I was thinking it was a good idea to finally expand on it, but not Albion itself of course since it literally doesn’t exist anymore, I guess just a general Anglo/gaelic/celtic themed part of the world or faction is what I’m looking for>>98654992True but I need more
>>98655410I can't find anything about them being exceptionally large. Most depictions of the things I see have them being, well, around the size of a guy on a horse.
>>98654789I'd just add them to the kruleboys and make them work like xenomorphs, where they lay eggs inside both men and women and then a little fimir pops out of the captive
>>98654789This is just tiresome at this point. Even if you're doing it ironically it already got old
>>98653825That wasn’t sarcasm if that’s what you think I really do want more
reminder that the lumineth commited Bone 9/11
>>98655973Reminder that Hobgrots comited real 9/11
skaven bombed two different government buildings
>>98656015Of two different governments
>>98656023one could argue that sand people and demons aren't that far apart
>>98656039Whou could be behind this post???
>>98656039>t. Anakin Skywalker
>>98656065>Not putting 6 shields on the sidesThe unenlightened masses...
>>98655344Grim
>>98656303
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xhj5rsbp/chronicles-of-ruin-king-of-the-bigs/
>>98656574It would be funny if he was king of the biggers, instead of king of the bigs
>>98656574>BehematiUgh
>>98656653all they had to do was add -ids at the end
>>98656577That woul imply that he does not lord over mancrushers, which he obviouly does
>>98656700mancrushers are still biggers relatively to the humans
>>98656754So are ogors, but he's not a king of ogors
>>98656763They're too small, there's a cutoff at around 4-5 meters
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gkr7s1u7/aos-coach-on-the-new-sons-of-behemat/
>>98656983This article feels a bit on the nose
>>98657017Jesus Christ it's been 5 years
>>98657125I like it>>98657131Could use more details for scale
>>98657131same vibe
>>98657125>>98657131https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tko2i6jm/warhammer-art-through-the-years-sons-of-behemat/Looks like it back to 40k next week, probably for the new Space Marine or Ork artwork
>>98656039Dangerous truth
Any idea how well I could translate the dick iron dwarf schemes over to helsmiths? I feel like standard Dark Iron shit is basically generic armor and very straight forward while helsmiths feel much more opulent
>>98657355Metals get painted shades of grey, fabrics get painted in dark earthy tones, gemstones get painted burning hot with faded glowing effects around them.
>>98657355don't paint the trim as gold and that will be enough
>>98657125Brodd's tusk pouldrons + hood is a good look
>>98657574That's what I did with my Brodd
Does anyone have pdfs for the 4th edition battletomes for the DOK, HOS and/or Ogors?
>>98656574I really liked that, Ma was a lot more eloquent than I thought she'd be
>>98657125>Freeguild so bunched up and chaotic that the cavalry is mixed in with the steelhelms as the gargants hit the front lineOh they're fucked
>>98657125Somebody SOVL it up. I haven’t pirated photoshop on my new pc yet.
>>98656574For all the faults of AoS' storytelling it's been really fun seeing the evolution of gargants over the years, they've gone from solo drunken losers to seemingly on the cusp of forming a kind of society. It feels like the inverse of the ogors where their culture is slowly degrading as they give into maw worship
>>98657882It would have been very easy to only give joke characters to an army who's concept is a bit of a joke, but Brodd has been pretty good narratively
>>98657402NTA but Dark Iron Chorfs look as good as I imagined they would.
After painting 20 slayers for my WHFB/TOW Dwarf army, I felt a deep desire to play my Fyreslayers. Managed to schedule a Spearhead game with a m8 at the LGS and had a pretty damn good time. Opponent brought Chorfs and after a fun game, the Fyreslayers came out ahead. The Throwing Axes managed to decimate his Dominator and the Hearthguard and Battlesmith deleted his artillery almost immediately. The rules of Fyreslayers have been dumbed down compared to when I was playing them multiple times weekly back between their launch and mid-2e, but they still are a fun army, imo. Sadly I did not think to take pictures and by the time I did we both had packed up and were at the bar.
>>98657845How exactly are they supposed to handle a gargant charge in lore? Like I'm not going to fault anyone for losing discipline when 800 tonnes of drunken retard sprints towards them.
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>>98657994You pray and hope your armours and weapons hurt their feet enough to not flatten the whole army
>>98658272>steamtanks were phased out because they were being turned into Air Behemats to protect gargent soles
What the actual fuck was GW thinking with Fyreslayers? I love the models but building an actual 2k army with them is so fucking stupid. Even if I spam every Magmadroth option that's only like 800 points. Did they genuinely expect and believe that people would be ok buying 8 copy and paste model sets just to do the bare minimum of filling out a list? Hearthguard are cool models but not "I would love to paint 40 of these guys" cool. Don't even get me started on half the characters you can't even use because taking more than two drops is suicide.
>>98658333They come from an era when GW weren't thinking and unfortunately they never got revisited with a proper expansion so now GW have officially given up and simply souping them in with more standard looking dwarfs.
>>986583331e and maybe even arguably 2e armies were designed to be souped with other grand alliance armies. 4th is simply a vast overcorrection of 1e, also dwrves of all variety have lost all their options that gave them niches so you’re mostly playing with stat blocks.
>>98658333>impying this isn't a kino army
>>98658374Speaking of 2e, there was a pocket of time when you had both 1/4th ally system combined with its own version of RoR that let you take units from other alliances (like the morale bombing flesh-eaters) and it was so much fun. Shame we can't have that anymore.
>>98658397Do you think the helsmiths with get kurnothi units inspired by indoenesian dragons or do you think they didn't sell well enough compared to the old old world?
>>98658397That army isn't even legal unless you have a stupendous amount of drops. People online who say they own 7+ Magmadroths are genuinely mentally ill.
>>98658333It has the same issue I feel like a few of the new AOS exclusive forces do, like IDK, and I'm gonna say NH. GW kinda has the theme down on point, a few cool models, but the ranges are in desperate need of a solid wave to just add some actual MEAT to those bones.
>>98658435Helsmiths thing is bulls.
>>98658441>That army isn't even legalIt was in 3e and was set at exactly 2000/2000 points
New godeaters book is good if you like flesh eaters.
buying into IDK just so GW can announce they're gonna soup the range with DOK or something so they can have mermaids or whatever.
>>98658572What are they doing there
>>98658621You should buy all my IDK anon, please god.
>>98657994If there's only one you could focus fire it down with your guns and wizards but a mass gargant assault? I guess you hope for the best. They'd probably have to develop a whole different army composition of fast units of ranged cavalry that can keep away from them and pepper their knees until they fall or something
>>98657994I think when 4th dropped there was a snippet about Skaven tripping one with Warpstone caltrops then eating its face/eyes when it fell. Seems like the hard part is knocking them down, then it's straightforward. I'd aim the big guns at their legs, personally.
>>98658641Have you no pride? They're beautiful models even if they only ever serve as paperweights.
Idoneth are the beastmen of Aos if you think about it
>>98658162That's the stuff.
>>98657994Throw enough zombies at it and any problem can be solved.
>>98658767I just have too many armys, I wound up with these strictly because a local guy needed money for surgery and was selling them off really cheap.I am fine with my pile of shame going to people who will use them more than me. I'd rather they NOT collect dust with me and instead be used by someone who wants em!
>>98657909>>98658162Now that’s a great piece wow>>98657994You need a heavy hitter like a sorcerer I guess
>>98653793I'm still waiting, guys.
>>98659152
>>98659157Fold out?
>>98659302Are you blind?
Besides opr, what the other alternative wargame rulesets that people use for aos?
>>98659507i havent really seen any unlike 40k or whfb, aos players havent been dissatisfied with their system long enough for a bunch of indie alternative rulesets to pop up, aos players have been more than happy to play aos proper. its only really since 4th that this idea has started to pop up, which a year and a half isnt a ton of time to populate the scene with alternate wargame homebrews. and most people who are upset enough with the current edition to try something else just go back to playing an older edition if i had to guess
>>98659589As much as it was fucking despised at the time, and with good reason, an updated 0.5 edition ruleset with all the wacky stuff could be pretty fun. The one where if you're using Settra and you kneel for any reason you automatically lose always made me laugh
>>98659840yeah maybe, if you do the early wacky stuff but with the 1st GHBs points update. might be fun.a lot of those older PDFs are surprisingly hard to track down though, GW did zero work to archive anything, and a lot of the community didnt hold onto them so its really patchwork who has what
>>98659870>GW did zero work to archive anythingWhich is bizarre, how hard would it be to just have an archive tab on the downloads page
So funny to me how AoS has 0 normie penetration. They literally couldn't care less about the setting! No wonder it's being squatted and replaced with The Last World!
>>98660246Isn't that like, a positive point
>>98660246You spend a little bit too much time on YouTube anon.
Is there any other general that gets this much regular seethe
>>98660479probably the 40k general, since they're always angry
>>9866047940k
I'm working on the new Festus. What exactly is that weird table-rack thing on his back? I don't know if it's wood or metal or whatever. The backpack is just really weird to me and I can't discern the textures well.Everything else was p straightforward tho. >>98660271>>98660246>0 normie penetrationThis is a bad thing? I want a game where people actually appreciate the figures and want to have cool looking battles with painted armies.I think the new massive wave people who are "into 40k now" are the same people who binge buy pokemon cards and buy UB EDH decks but rarely if ever actually play. 40k is becoming trendy and it's only going to get worse with the release of Dow4 and TWW40k. GW knows a huge surge is coming and they're going to perfectly calibrate prices to milk it for all it is worth. I don't want AoS to be like 40k at all.
>>98660582It’s part of his throne, chair thing, that carries all his ingredients.
>>98660604I know what is meant to be, but I don't know what that big metal box is made of. I know he is hanging the body to drain the fluids and he ties his little potions and mixtures to the wood and the little wicker man is some kind of fly effigy. It's a backpack like he used to have in WhFb. I don't know why it's a solid fat brick of metal or wood. it looks like some weird operating table that folds open or holds more tools inside. It has some straps and parts that look as if they move. Almost like a mouse trap.ah well I'll just copy the box art
>>98659326Speak up, i can't hear you
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>>98660727What’s up with all these early threads man
