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Imagine Still Complaining About UB Edition

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>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
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>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
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>Proxy Guide
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>Precons
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TQ: Jace transitioned into Tam and Emrakul ate the Echoverse. The End. Thoughts about the story?
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What a bad TQ
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>>98653324
answer this TQ man
if emmy could always communicate and be so smart as to eat only the sick planes then why did they have such a hard time dealing with them in the first place and what was the point of her wanting to go to the moon in the first place?
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>>98653352
there are a bunch of problems with the story and it only raises my suspicion that this event was rushed given it's been only 3 years since March of the Machines
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The story is great. Its just Jace being a based retard and fucking everything up.
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>>98653324
>Entire set based around kill Jace over and over
>Even when your strategy is Amass Jace, you want to kill Jace because making a new token means you get another loyalty activation
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>>98653396
A worthy successor to Urza.
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>>98653324
>TQ
Jace sucks. Simple as.
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>>98653437
Urza would have blown up at least three planes while executing Jace's plan. Jace ain't shit.
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Worst set ever btw
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This actually seems kinda neat
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>>98653324
I haven't paid attention to the story since after time spiral.
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Why does she look like that?
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>>98653480
She likely had to take ever someone's body to get out and she merged with them, or something.
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>sorin is.... le werewolf!
Worst set ever btw
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>>98653480
Eldrazi titans are only a piece of the larger body. Apparently her whole body was pulled onto Strixhaven for a little bit, Tam lost sense of what she was looking at for a moment there. Looking at how the Titan fits into the rest of the overself probably makes it look less like a person and more like a body part.
Apparently in Emrakul's case it's actually her mouth. So it's looking.. like lips.
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>>98653504
tapped planeswalker can still activate ability, right?
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>>98653480
Emrakul's design has never been terribly consistent
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>>98653517
Yo emmy got them DSL (dimension sulking lips)
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>>98653324
I’d be very upset if this was any worse but I’ll accept this
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>>98653324
Wow, this is a lot cooler than Final Faggotry and Marvel.
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So Jace is a new Poochie woman character and Emrakul ate the universe?
I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.
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>>98653569
>jace literally transitioned into tam like a tranny
>better than final faggotry hurrdurr
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>>98653504
So white Liliana does and black Liliana reanimates her corpse for dumb shit?
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>>98653692
*Dies not does
Fuck spelling.
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>>98653631
>Jace is dead
>this is bad somehow
Final Faggots don't like trannies now? But your most popular character is one.
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>>98653701
>crossdressing for laughs is totally the same as transitioning to save the universe guys! promise!
you lost anon, enjoy your tranny tam hogging the UW spotlight next year
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>>98653701
He isn't though, he just was in drag for one idiotic mission despite having 2 beautiful women who could have just done it the two of them.
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This weekend
Blizzcon
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>>98653752
can't wait for the flying wheelchair wizards!
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>>98653480
Are we going to get a Sigarda this set that specifically counters Emrakul like all the other releases of them?
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>>98653752
Its going to be full of goblins, so I'm on board.
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>>98653752
Finally, more dragon sex lore
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>>98653760
>them
Kys
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>>98653752
Roadmap for next year?
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>>98653777
1 of the 3 UBs next year will be Marvel, dunno about the other 2
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>>98653776
I'm not giving a card a gender, fag boy
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>>98653777
Next year's unannounced UB probably, but there's good chance thanks to WoW x DnD collab this year.
With lack of accouncement of UB announcements, I'm going to assume Blizzcon has something stored for the hardcore fanbase.
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>>98653752
I will suck the next posters cock and finger blast their ass if this nigga is in it and works with skeletons and zombies
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>>98653837
Where's the echo version of this based little chudling?
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>>98653837
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>>98653851
Toski, Bearer of Rabies
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>>98653777
Probably X-Men, D&D and then some kind of out there collab like Darkwing Duck
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>>98653784
I mean more like if this Warcraft was being teased as one of next year's universe beyond set.
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>>98653906
>D&D
Man, I hope this is a return to backgrounds.
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>>98653922
I'm not sure i even want modern warcraft near the game. We're not going to get a hot Alextraza, a cool Tirion/Uther or half naked Dranei or Night Elves
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>>98653791
I read it as calling emrakul them
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98653837
>that's nuts
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Ugin cute.
Wish they'd give us a legendary creature Ugin.
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>>98653906
Rosewater will do 4 ub sets next year again and apologize again, oops, my bad, lol
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>>98653777
Is it time for a Warhammer 40k set to reprint all the commander cards as box toppers and mystical archive bonus sheets whatever the fuck they are called?
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>>98653777
>Kamigawa: Titanbreach
Hell no.
What a horrific name.
>Titan
Like Titanfall?
>Breach
Like the breach in Pacific rim or like the game heavily inspired by pacific rim Into the Breach?
Mtg will always remain pic related
>Pacific rim temu edition
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>>98653929
Hopefully they abandon that and add foregrounds instead
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>we can't reprint boseju unless the set is on kamigawa
I hate wotc and their retarded restrictions that benefit nobody.
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Don't laugh but is this a real card?
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>>98654080
No, but it should be.
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>>98654080
No, for multiple reasons.
>No mana cost
>"Effect" (noun) instead of "affect" (verb)
>Worded ambiguously (what does "affect you" mean here?)
>Relies on information that varies between printings (lines of text depends on language and formatting)
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>>98654080
not sure, but this is
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>>98654099
Heheh penis
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>>98654095
>>No mana cost
still could be legit, there is a precedent
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>>98654124
Cards with no mana cost have an alternative way to be played native to the card (like your example, or the suspend cards). It would be very unusual for WotC to print a spell with no intrinsic method of being cast especially since Modern currently has multiple decks built around exploiting suspend cards.
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>>98654106
>2004: hehe penis
>2026: we put axe wounds on our characters, look at how stunning and brave we are
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>>98654147
>2004
>Unfunny joke cards
>2026
>Unfunny joke cards
Same game as ever I see.
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>>98653752
You will be able to play WoW.dek vs FFXIV.dek
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>>98654147
Afro future retro will save us next year
Zhalfir is what I'm talking about.
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>>98653752
So next year's UB sets will be
>Warcraft
>Marvel
>???
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>>98654183
Legend of Zelda!
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>>98653752
I'm just glad it's not Starcraft, but an actual fantasy setting. Like when they picked 40k over Fantasy.
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>>98653906
Can't wait for the Margrethe Thatcher UB set
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Warcraft died after Warcraft 3
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>trying to buy a single card that is valued at like 4.50
>All these stores saying "free shipping on 5 dollars or more!"
>None of them have bulk to add to get it over 5, some are even selling tokens from the hobbit for 4 fucking dollars
Fucking Jews.
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>>98654220
Warcraft was never any good.
Any commanders for this feel?
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>>98654152
>2004: hehe the monkey got knocked up
>2026: female characters showing skin is misogyny
i wish they were both unfunny jokes anon believe me
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>>98654183
Grand Theft Auto is pretty obvious
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>>98654220
I would give Warcraft until the end of Wrath of the Lich King. At least that closes out Arthas' story arc.
No, the bullshit in Shadowlands doesn't fucking count.
>>98654225
Being contrarian against [popular thing] doesn't make you cool. Or right.
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>>98654183
>>98654199
It will be this version of link
Imagine how good it will look on a card
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What would you guys imprint on this gay machine?
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>>98654234
You will get Dracthyr on every card and you will like it.
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>>98654247
I'm going to put Ocelot Pride into it.
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>>98653752
I wonder what the inevitable Leeroy Jenkins card will do.
2{R}
All your creatures gain Double Strike, Haste and Trample and must attack each combat, if able.
Sacrifice all creatures at the end of combat.
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>>98654247
Spore frog
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>>98654299
don't forget the keyword ability
>LEEEEROOOY JEEENKINS -
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>>98654255
Nah, you should put some kind of changeling into it.
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>>98654299
I want it to prove to be just as much of a long-term design problem as the Hearthstone card. Every year a new Leeroy Jenkins combo emerges.
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Alright Anons of /tg/, just for you. If you really want normal aligned versions of my Miku cards so badly then here they are, every center aligned card in there shifted to the left and redone. I thought about it and I want everyone to be able to enjoy Miku in public regardless of how their autism has shaped them over the years.

https://imgur.com/a/mi-ku-slide-r9NXQ9W

No refunds.
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>>98654385
We didn't want this. We don't want any of you proxytards bullshit
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>>98654255
>>98654323
too bad it's not a rogue or something for party
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>>98654396
Uh-huh. Now start complaining about how they're not right-aligned for left handed people please, that would just make my day.
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>>98654299
they could just copy this pretty much as is 6/1 haste, "stuns" your other creatures on entering
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>>98654396
>We
Nah, despite the varying qualities of them, I will always prefer people making some kind of oc
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>>98654396
I mean we kind of asked for it but I didn't think he would actually do it. Kinda based.
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>>98654419
But it's not proper Leeroy if he doesn't wipe the whole raid in the end.
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>guess who's back
>back again
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>>98654449
Tarmogoyf is already a perfect organism in Jace's mind
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Sister Thalia alhamdulillah
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>>98654449
WotC so lazy they waste a mythic slot on this powercrept turd
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>>98654476
Is't this quite strong? 1/2 flyer for two with a super impactful upside.
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>>98654490
literally power-crept Storm Crow
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>>98654449
>haha remember pre fire design modern? Pre modern horizons? Hahaha...
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Tell me if I'm reading this right. I have these three on the board and something makes me discard two cards at once. Glint-horn triggers twice because it sees each individual card being discarded, Magmakin triggers once since it just sees it as a single discard trigger, and Master sees three individual damage triggers so it'll give +3/+0 to everything?
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I'm confused. Is this some meta joke about how goyf is a transcendental category or something?
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DIE LOOT DIE
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>>98654539
Brutal
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>>98654247
I run this, prototype portal, mimic vat in my monoblack ultron
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>>98654530
we broke glinthorn buccaneer guys
also how did we get a ink smudge on our online scan
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>>98654476
It's funny how Thalia is incorruptible that the mirror version of her is the dead one.
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I did it guys.
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>>98654624
This was already posted last thread you mook.
Food chain goes infinite with a ham sandwich.
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>>98654624
food chain exiles not sacs, so while this goes infinite (if aerid is your commander) it doesn't give you any extra mana or nothin'
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>>98654666
actually no I'm regarded it doesn't even go infinite, it's not a combo at all
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>>98654624
commander tax hits 4 and this ends idgi
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>>98654624
>pay 4, get 6
>pay 6, get 6
>pay 8, get 6
This might be the fairest use of food chain I've ever seen.
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This might be the most useless landfall trigger ever.
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>>98654666
>so while this goes infinite (if aerid is your commander)
...does it?
>Aerid resolves, creates Heartwood token
>exile Aerid to Food Chain, get GGGGG
>tap Heartwood token for R
>pay RGGGGG (1RGG+2) to recast Aerid
>Aerid resolves, creates Heartwood token
>exile Aerid to Food Chain, get GGGGG
>tap Heartwood token for R
>RGGGGG is not enough to recast Aerid, who now costs 1RGG+2+2
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>>98654701
>might
it is
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>>98654701
your knowledge pool is shallow
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>>98654701
Art is kinda sick though.
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>>98654726
Hey at least that's not a mythic
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https://moxfield.com/decks/jSRX6a22okmf9oyywb8LZw
is there a payoff for party terra?
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>>98654726
>landfall get 2/3rds of a draw
>Can't even redeem that 2/3rds of a draw multiple times in one turn
It's pretty damn bad, I can see why it gets premium stats for the cost.
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>>98654213
For me, it's the Beast Wars UB
wait I take it back I actually would kind of fuck with that
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>>98654726
>whenever you land, it takes off
I don't get the flavor here
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>>98654771
he get's scared
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>>98654701
>>98654759
if you could get 3rd loyalty token somehow it basically becomes landfall - draw a card
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>>98654234
WOTLK was the last expansion I really loved and that's mainly because it was a really fun setting, even if the trial of the crusader grand tournament bit kinda sucked
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>Elesh Norn should be a game changer, its unfair! Its bullshit!
Sorry landfag, you're not playing fair magic, but you're going to get as close to it as possible.
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>>98654792
They should print the bottom line on a 2 mana artifact. Double my triggers is gay and lame, but turning off ETB nonsense is great.
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>>98654771
Playing a land is like discovering more of the realm, and it wants to explore.
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>>98654797
They should, but they won't.
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>>98654797
It's called Torpor Orb.
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>>98654726
I wish we'd get more Griffin. They cute.
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>>98654810
Only stops creatures.
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>mfw me and another at the pod unintentionally both brought red double damage enchantment decks to the table tonight and just turned players into puree
>mfw 24 damage lightening bolt at one point to the blue player and me and my pirates eventually get turned into fucking paste by the other guy's goblin deck pinging me
Red might suck compared to other colors but it's funny and that matters more
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>>98654815
Are there any particularly problematic etbs you're unable to stop with Cancel?
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>>98654854
Yes anon, their landfall triggers that will have 4 times a turn while cancel will only stop once.
You've been retarded twice now. Don't do it for a third time.
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>>98654864
I didn't know they started printing landfall abilities on the actual lands.
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>>98654868
he JUST told you not to be retarded a third time
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>>98654886
Referring to yourself in third person is unbecoming. Especially when you're self-reporting that you're losing to landfall.
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>>98654701
You say that, but this card will likely actually slap dick just because its a 2cmc simic landfallslop card. At WORST it comes with a free phyrexian arena. At best it one shots you in a single turn.
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>>98654701
>>98654726
ENTER
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>>98654926
That "worst case scenario" means their land drop every turn is a fetch and both parts of this "best case scenario" die to Doom Blade.
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You ain't a real G unless your general (and you still call it a general) is on the reserved list.
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>>98655119
my MLD king
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>>98655119
Unban my zesty elf anon must be the biggest G then
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>>98654317
Leeroy Jenkins 2{R}{W}
Human Knight
>Alright chums, let's do this - At the beginning of combat on your turn, creatures you control get +2/+2, haste, trample, and are goaded.
>LEEEEROOOOOYYYYY JEEEEENKIIINNNS - At the end of combat on your turn, destroy all attacking creatures.
6/2
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>>98655144
>Goaded
Since it's your own creatures it would just say "must attack if able"
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>>98655137
Definitely, but he's been banned as commander since the start of the format basically. Now this guy is the big elf dick swinging now.
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>>98655165
what is this armor even supposed to be
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>>98655165
I'd let you play zesty elf anon. He's a solid b3 card.
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>That card's not in the spirit of b3 anon
>Smothering Tithe
The fuck is in the spirit of b3 then?
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>>98655170
I rule zero him sometimes. Majority of people are ok with him being in the 99.
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>>98655176
nothing, it should be B2 then a bracket with hard rules then B5
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>>98655070
Sure, in a way, but too many times I've seen "cheap card+low opportunity cost+card draw+produces material+can be wincon" have been undervalued before they've seen play. It'll likely be better and more annoying than it looks.
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>>98655177
He's a good card you have to kill fast but there's a lot of cards like that which people have been playing forever. In my opinion it's a nothingburger that people overrate because they don't fully grasp where the format's ceiling is right now. I respect and even prefer nice, slow games, but even I recognize Rofellos isn't that much of an outlier now and honestly hasn't been for a while.
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>>98655189
I think it's solidly playable but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's going to be a landfall menace.
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>>98654779
Yeah, that part was really tedious in the "you want gear to catch up in preparation for the final push? Daily grind, mother fuckers."
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has anyone tried out how awful uugguu is to play with clones and mutate?
I'm assuming that if you clone a mutated, uugguu and let one die, the other sees it and makes two stacks of mutated copies
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>>98655199
>isn't a may
I hate cards that are infinite loops against bowman
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>>98655202
Depends on your table. In casual it's going to be very good. I -might- play it in my b4 landfall deck, but I doubt it. Still good as a value engine. Don't forget the Jace token is pretty solid persistent material. Could even rob an attack or two. It's not nearly as good when you're winning off combo lines, but when you're dumping 15 counters on a flier with your jace still drawing cards it's just gravy.

The card is stronger in 60 than commander honestly. I think it will definitely see play in legacy. Not familiar with standard or modern. It will certainly see some play, the value density is just too high.
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>>98655231
Bowmasters should have been banned years ago. What an awful card design.
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>>98654299
>>98654317
>>98655144
It being scripted was sad, it being dragged out well past its expiration date is even sadder, but you trying to pretend there's any good will towards the now lamest forced "Us WoW guys, am I correct?" meme is probably the saddest.
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>>98655177
>>98655195
How fast can elfball even go now? At Turn 5 with my Marwyn deck last night I got a god hand + draw and was able to threaten lethal on the whole board with 5 elves, a coat of arms, and a finale of devastation

I didn't pull the trigger because we were only playing in b3 and I went first so the others were still on their turn 4, and even that felt excessive already
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>>98655230
https://youtube.com/shorts/jdglQpIWKWg
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>>98655258
Nothing sadder or more cringe than a zoomer pretending its sad that people have a thing called "fun"
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>>98655195
Rofellos can be absolutely insane in a fair way, especially with Primeval Titan. Turn 1 Rofellos, turn 2-3 primeval titans lead to insane lines. Usually involving Triumph of the Hordes + Avenger of Zendikar and/or Craterhoof.
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>>98655261
I believe turn 4 is the fastest my deck could do, but chat GPT isn't even smart enough to give me proper lines.
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I never see any exp cummanders in the wild
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>>98655285
Meren
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>>98655278
>avenger of zendikar? that's nice
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>>98654530
Yeah that's how it works. You may now resume your proxy game that you placed on hold for roughly 3 hours.
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>>98655285
They made a Super Hitler version of Baral and nobody noticed.
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>>98655278
>Turn 1 Rofellos, turn 2 Primeval Titan
You're opening Exploration and Elvish Spirit Guide every game?
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Realistically, for a Zelda set, would there be a trillion
>Link, Hero of ____
variants?
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>>98655393
Knowing WotC there would be 4 cards dedicated just to OoT Link.
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>>98655306
I'm sure my opponents will be glad to know I'm right. Thank you anon.
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>>98655334
Lotus petal, Chancellor of the Tangle, Sol Ring.
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>>98654850
this dude is living like its still 2013
ill have what hes having
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>>98655453
Sol Ring doesn't assist with t1 Rofellos and Chancellor is an extremely ass card but I guess it's technically usable. In either case you're required to open exactly 4 lands, exactly Exploration, exactly Primeval Titan, and a ritual, just so you can go into topdeck mode on turn 3. It's the same weakness as Azusa decks where they can play their whole hand out but they're never regaining card advantage after that because you can just trade removal with all their bombs which are coming once every ~4-5 turns.
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>>98655334
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>>98655508
I look like and do this
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He's a wide guy
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>>98655518
three blue
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>>98655518
>>98655530
kek
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>>98655518
lately they've been printing a lot of signpost hybrid cards but none seem to be worth playing
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I was building an Abigail list and it seems to me "bad creatures" is mostly a green/black archetype.
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If I have two Phyrexian Vindicators and a damage doubler in play, can I bounce the damage off of them infinitely until I can one-shot another player with the redirected damage?
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>>98655608
you could try like phyrexian dreadnaught, soulgorger, grid monitor, leveler, eater of days for noncolor ones
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>>98653766
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>>98655650
only soulgorger has a place in that deck
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>>98654225
I have made roughly 12 Experiment Kraj decks and none of them have been any good.
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>>98655563
>1/4
>2/2
>surveil
>mass pump
>by turn 4
Seems like a great limited card desu
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N
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Do we know anything about the Foundations Precons? Commander games have become absolutely miserable with overcomplicated and overpowered decks piloted by people who take 10 minutes for every turn.
Maybe playing with simple straightforward decks brings the fun back.
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>>98655727
No one stops you from playing with a 20 dollar bracket 1 deck already.
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>>98654147
>>2026: we put axe wounds on our characters, look at how stunning and brave we are
as a matter of fact that was January 2015, not 2026
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>>98655737
Yeah, but I would have to construct several 20 dollar bracket 1 decks and make sure that they have a comparable power level.
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>>98653480
She broke out of the moon and is going to destroy the alternate universe Jace made.

"They were always my pieces Jace; I'm just tired of playing"
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>>98655400
Realistically
>Adult OoT Link and maybe Young Link
>Majora's Mask Link
>Hero's Ghost
So yeah
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>>98654449
Should just downshit this to common.
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>>98655746
It's ambitious to expect precons to all play at the same powerlevel.
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>>98655326
Whom?
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>>98655768
The guy from princess bride who said "INCONCEVIABLE!"
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>>98654155
>zhalfir in 1997: africa, arabia, north africa, mediterranean city states
>zhalfir in 2027: wakanda
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it's crazy watching entire pods fold to grave pact decks. literally just remove the enchantment or the sac outlets
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>>98655825
>I don't run enchantment removal
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>>98655825
I have killed more players with this every other week.
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>>98655828
this one is too strong
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>>98655825
>When they start removing all your cards you're the one that whines
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>>98655768
Katara (the one that's posted) because it actually refills your hand instead of just looting.
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>>98653504
second good card in the set holy fuck
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>>98654539
where was the evil tool in the whole story?
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>>98653519
Correct
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>>98653504
>The next end step instead of your next end step
So what's the intended use-case here?
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>>98653504
This let's you steal 3CMC non-lands for a turn. What can be done with that?
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So if I got this straight the prerelease archetypes are

WG Lifegain
UW Surveil
BR Aggro
UB Reanimator
GR Artifacts
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>>98655899
do it at their endstep and get to tap/swing with it too
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>>98655915
and it will still exile anyway, this is actually a pretty cool piece of tech to have. It is just straight removal with a bonus. I can seem EOT'ing this to steal walkers for a turn or that were at the Ult range.
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>>98655825
Yeah about that
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>>98655988
>that's not so ba-
>at random
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>>98655988
Funny how MLD got the most notorious treatment when hand disruption is also, if not more, cancerous to play against.
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>>98656014
The thing is most hand destruction is awful in multiway games because most of them only affect a single player
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>>98655988
>>98656014
Who's a good commander for these cards? My first thought went to Zur
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>>98656152
Kroxa. His attack/ETB effect is a discard one, but also has a contingency that bolts people if they don't discard a nonland, and you don't really care all that much about pitching your own shit since it fuels his escape.
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>>98656014
THIS. fuck it's so stupid some archetypes were ignored when they are just as bad
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>>98655716
I was hoping reverse Silverquill would be the slurs and insult club.
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>>98656152
Great in Braids since you are now raping all the resources left and right.
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>>98654446
Should just be a shitty proxy that isn't allowed anywhere because the video is staged and fake in that case
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>>98654500
She's legendary. You can have multiple storm crows on the battlefield.
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>>98655132
I should get one of these again for Zurgo and Ojutai.
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>>98656364
true and also the game is totally definitely for real balanced around limited, and geist Thalia is uncommon whereas Storm Crow was only ever printed (into boosters) at common. this is also why, say, Attuned Hunter isn't power creep for War Mammoth.
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>Playing against my blue nemesis again
>Last time I was asked to leave after screaming that he was a cunt for countering one of my ramp spells
>This time I crop rotation for Boseiju
>Play Tooth and Nail with entwive
>Kill him
>Scream NOT THIS TIME CUNT
>Asked to leave again
I wonder if I'll get banned eventually.
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>>98656357
Everyone knew it was staged from the beginning because that's nowhere near how to handle that encounter in that dungeon. No one cared.
It was fun.
And you are pathetically cringe for getting upset about it.
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>>98655667
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>>98656556
not to tell you how to do your job but "Peer into the Abyss" should clearly depict her spreading her gaping asshole
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Just noticed that Sephara got a new super support upgrade.
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didn't he get eaten by Valgavoth
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T H E R A T
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>>98656809
just yoinked back to Duskmourn
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>>98656812
Another support for FF saga creatures.
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>>98656809
No, and we already knew this since he was in aethershit
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>>98656809
is he supposed to make me think of The Sandman?
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>>98655727
The only simple decks there are the ghalta and the lathliss decks. Sai, giada and Gisa will not be simple. They will definitely be good starting off points for new players, better than the usual haphazard 3 colour precon that tries to do too much.
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>>98656812
>>98656809
Ah yes, these extremely iconic characters from mtg
*Checks notes
Who first appeared in the last couple of years
MTG lore is so pathetic
LMAO
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>>98656826
no like I thought his punishment for losing in Aetherdrift was that Valgavoth devoured his soul.
>>98656816
surprisingly merciful on the part of ol' valgy I'd say
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When I play with randoms at the LGS, and we are doing the "pre-game discussion", what is the polite and socially acceptable way of communicating "I don't play game-changer cards, and I think people who do are fags"?
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>>98653352
I don't think Emrakul has ever been portrayed as actually villainous. In OG Zendikar the eldrazi were unknowable and no one really knew what they did or why. Ulamog and Kozilek were the ones fucking shit up the next go around and again their actual motivations seem unclear. On Innistrad Emrakul wasn't the bad guy, Nahiri was. Emrakul made attempts to communicate and seemed confused and maybe even upset as to why she even was on Innistrad in the first place, and she sealed herself away when she was informed bad shit was happening because of her presence.
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>>98656861
I re-read it and apparently his punishment was just "never being allowed to leave Duskmourn." which again seems pretty underwhelming but I guess that's what it always was and Winter is just Valgavoth's personal servant
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>>98656866
Just stick to bracket 2 if 'game changers' pisses you off so bad. (not all game changers are on the same power level btw)
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>>98656866
"please have patience with me, I might be retarded"
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>>98656866
"I only have bracket 2 decks"
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sooooo many uncommon legendaries... again...
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I've seen enough, LET'S SKIP TO KAMIGAWA TITANBREACH!!!!!
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>missed chance of having Kamahl's or Jeska's mirrors
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>>98656909
we can skip the knockoff Pacific Rim hat set too
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>>98656909
I'd rather skip to Nauctis
>>98656915
hurf durf hat set
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>>98656915
Kamahl already had a mirror
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Star Trek will save Magic ;)
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>>98656945
Star Trek couldn't even save itself.
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>>98656909
>another cycle of spirit dragons
>new Boseiju
>more channel cards
>possibility of WandererYoshimaru partner commander
Just give me a couple of this and I'm ok.
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>>98656937
wrong reply obviously srry
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>>98656963
>the Bozoeijulith
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>>98656902
Wait, is she using Hammer of Purphoros
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>>98656963
Don't forget, more shrines.
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I know this is a scrubby complaint, but I hate Propaganda effects. I only play honest decks that win through combat, (I refuse to play combos) and Propaganda hoses me too hard. Aggro is so shit in EDH, why does it need to get extra hosed? I'm in mono-red so I don't have enchantment hate. Frustrating!
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>>98656996
Put Liquimetal Torque in your mono red decks to turn anything into an artifact you can blast
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>>98656996
Just Chaos Warp it.
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>>98656996
Can't relate. I'll just pay 2 and still hit you with 84 gnomes.
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>>98656996
Lol, lmao even, fucking faggot.
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>>98657007
Why are MTG gnomes like this?
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>>98656996
Bro it's blue. Red has ton of ways to deal with blue faggotry.
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>>98657057
I think they're cute.
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>>98656996
Red elemental blast
Pyroblast
Burn Out
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I still hate the empower Jace mechanic
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>>98657073
>>98657140
I appreciate the blue hate, I really do. But "propaganda effects" also exist in white, like Ghostly Prison or Sphere of Safety.

>>98657000
I like this idea, it's clever, I am going to steal it, thanks anon.
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>>98657057
Urza did it. And whole bunch of other things, he was kinda like boomer Jace.
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>>98656875
She still had a hand in this shit so I still say fuck her and fuck her whole species
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>>98656996
Just run enchantment removal nigga. If you're an honest deck you can afford a few silver bullets
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>>98657184
There aren't any in red
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>>98657204
Then explain this 7 mana artifact that can destroy any permanent.
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>>98657204
there's some in colorless
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>>98656996
>I'm in mono-red so I don't have enchantment hate
You have learned why Liquimetal Torque goes in all monored decks
>>98657154
>I like this idea, it's clever, I am going to steal it, thanks anon.
5mins on EDHREC would have given you the same idea
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>>98657263
I for one am glad that anon posted here instead of just using edhrec
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>>98657220
Not red.
It can be used in red, but it's not red.
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>>98657307
>doesn't give the creature haste
fuck off
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>>98657307
Only this making this not broken is the fact it's sorcery speed.
Still pretty good though
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>>98657307
5 color superfriends turning Jace tokens into real walkers?
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>>98654225
Warcraft 3 TFT is the best game to ever grace humanity
The custom maps alone would put it in first place but then on top of it you have a fantastic RTS and an admittedly pretty ass story mode that nobody care about but it is there
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>ended up just rebuilding the 2014 version of my maelstrom deck
>suddenly having fun again
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>>98656996
This is why you play purphuros and goblin bombardment
>swing out
>kill 2 other players
>sac board
>kill the blue player
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>>98657307
Kinda alright I guess compared to the OG Shifting Shadow Casino.
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>>98657325
Do you happen to have a list online? I bought all those planechase decks back in the day and still have a copy of Maelstrom Wanderer that I would like to use.
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>>98657344
Sure
https://moxfield.com/decks/oWqonGVRTE-ekxIl7hyacg
just be aware that this deck is exactly what I played in 2014 and therefor is pretty weak due to deckbuilding theory being underdeveloped at the time and an unwillingness to buy cards I didnt already own
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is this fun.
do i even feel fun when trudging along with my shit hand and shit deck when any fucker can say "fuck you" for 2 ? what even is the point of playing this when you're endlessly getting cockblocked
life is a chore
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>>98656866
say "I don't play game-changer cards, and I think people who do are fags"
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>>98657378
skill issue
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>>98657378
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>>98657394
playing an endless row of "gotcha bitch" does not look like fun; or the fun is entirely proportional to the other's butthurt
>>98657406
yeah yeah fuck that shit
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>>98657430
mtg has always been a game that benefits people who look for a solution over people who complain
if you want to continue complaining, you might want to find a different game
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>2026
>still not tempted to put any UB cards in my deck
Aside from shit like The One Ring they managed to keep UB pretty irreverent. Maybe ub isnt that big of a deal
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>>98657442
i come from 30k; you bet i'm fucking off; grass was not greener
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>>98657458
Good, we need fewer johnny come latelys telling us how the game should work
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>>98657372
I like it. If you ever feel like you want to make a change to it, I recommend adding Somberwald Sage. Fits the period the deck was built in and turbos out a Wanderer like few other dorks.
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>>98657477
i cannot fathom your fun and you can't understand mine, leave it at that
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>>98657481
yeah
I might have a slot, omniscience is completely dead weight in this day and age
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>>98657486
I understand cause I was you at one point but you are a bitch who doesn't want to put the effort into learning how to adapt
now you have expressed your unqualified opinion and need to gtfo
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>>98657378
it's snowing on mt fuji
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>>98657183
>Xhe doesn’t like spaghetti monster gods from the abyss
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>>98657522
lol gayboy has an opinion
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ooh
gw lifegain cats in Standard?
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>>98657533
No argument?
I accept your concession.
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>>98657537
There would have to be an argument to have a concession
dingbat
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>>98657543
As stated, I accept your concession.
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>>98657522
No, actually, not when the angels they're fucking on were already conventionally attractive to me
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>>98657148
I like the idea of sculpting the Planeswalker you want from the various effects these cards give them, but I just don't want it to be Jace. I'd rather it be a faceless no one.
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>>98657148
i hate this set in general
It tries to do hexhaven, this planar chaos cycle and this empower shit that leaves no space at all in the set.
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>>98657155
>tapped mana rocks
into the trahh it goes
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>>98657587
I agree. There's a lot of cool design room for a build a bear planeswalker but making it oops all Jace annoys me, should be more like pic related imo
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>>98653569
reminder that final fantasy is essentially universe within since it has so many similar influences as MTG. (games 1-10 & Tactics particularly)

>>98655119
speaking truth to power here
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>>98657631
Ah, the cope tactic
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>>98657647
But enough about anti ub fags
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So I have been throwing together list for this Mouse for weeks now. I settled on basically using her for her sword as basically a sorcery that gives Trample, Vigilance and Haste for (2), What are some of the best 6CMC or less Red/White creatures that would love those keywords? Basically, turning 5 drops as my top end into 8 drops. Just want some ideas from the 2 billion creatures we have. Already had Malignus in the list.
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>>98657654
The only person you're fooling is yourself
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are they making this a standalone card in "reality fracture"??
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>>98657763
looks like it's part of a prepared creature
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>>98657406
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>>98653457
The only thing in the set that appeals to me is white Lilliana, but unfortunately she sucks.
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>>98657378
Put the fries in the bag little bro. You have options.
Veil of Summer
Hexing Squelcher
Voice of Victory
Duress
Cavern of Souls
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>>98657631
>final fantasy is essentially universe within
What a bizarre and nonsensical thing to say. You might as well claim that New Capenna and Spider-Man have similar influences, so Spider-Man is and has always been a Magic property.
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>>98653457
Maybe. Most of the legends look like shit and all the Amass Jace is lame, but I'm hoping there's at least some decent mono colored generic cards.
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Is this worth a GC slot if it's just effectively a creature that gives you vigilance? I'm hardly playing any instant, or activated abilities.
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>>98657880
>Is (untap all lands) worth the slot if I'm using to untap (one creature that's doing nothing but attacking) and nothing else?
It wouldn't be worth it even if it wasn't a GC.
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>>98657880
The fuck? This is a game changer?
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>>98657890
Yes
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>>98657880
Just play Serra's Blessing instead for the low cost one generic mana and one white mana.
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reinforcements, or refreshments? :)
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>>98657903
Fuck that, run this.
>They get blocked, untap and remove
>They don't block, after dealing damage untap and remove from combat
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>>98657999
>reminder text that's wrong
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>>98658008
WotC will be wotc
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Man I thought I hated UB already but there's something about actually seeing a captain kirk card really put my over the edge
this was the UB I was actually looking forward to but its just wrong
its all just WRONG!
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>>98658038
>this was the UB I was actually looking forward to
i thought everybody is waiting for zelda and witcher
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>>98657828
She's a very cheap discard outlet in white. Great for monowhite reanimator
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>>98657999
Worse art and no white border printing makes recon the lesser of the two options.
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I am looking forward to Star Trek. I've pre-ordered the Klingon Commander deck. I like Klingons, their strict sense of honour reminds me of autism and I resonate with that.

No, my deck has no gamechanges. A Klingon does not play gamechangers.
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>>98658058
Nintendorks are thankfully not a majority of people
Man back in the day Gamefaqs used to be full of those kinds of people and I have before or since witnessed a group of people with less of a discerning sense of taste.
The only thing that comes close are FF14 fans, specifically plot watchers.
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>>98658081
Never thought I'd look forward to the Star Trek set but the Reality Fracture set has nothing that really interests me
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>>98658181
>all the plane shifted legends are uncommons
man this is lame as fuck
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>>98657837
this has been debunked

FF and MTG are both inspired by DnD and high fantasy. Stuff like LOTR/Hobbit and King Arthur and other high fantasy, with some extra Japanese influence. Final Fantasy is MTG oriental cousin

hope this helps!!
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>>98658081
but I take it you added Blood Moon, yes? (its not a "game changer")

speaking of that Klinger deck why does GōtC (pronounced goatse) have so much AFFINITY for red black white decks. every set its the go to colors
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>>98658214
Final Fantasy isn't inspired by D&D, it's inspired primarily by Wizardry and Sword World, just like most japanese fantasy. As such, it's MtG's cousin in the same way that a horse is your cousin - you're both mammals, and you both share a common ancestor, but humans and horses are very different beasts.

Honestly, people who haven't read sword world are pretty clueless on just how much it defines japanese fantasy
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>>98658181
Never had a card make me feel bad for the character before
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>>98658181
Mono red Gallia is kinda neat. Not as a commander herself exactly but as an option in other decks.
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Dead game
Still love it
ive decided to finally finish all 10 of the primevil dragons. I've had each of them build from time to tome but never all at the same time.
Im running into a little bit of a theme issue, I've found that Crosis already operates best as a reanimator deck and that steps on Teneb's toes. I've had an elf deck using teneb before and a prison style deck but I think I need to use elves elsewhere and my new playgroup can't stand grindy games.
Any ideas for teneb?
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>>98658081
Based honorable autist. Only downside is if you're playing with Worf it's pretty canon you're always gonna get 2nd place
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>>98658181
My wife is back
Will run her inside the other version of my wife
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>>98658275
Past deck have included

>Crosis
Goodstuff, Spliter Twin, Reanimator, Artifacts
>darigaaz
infect, Jund em out
>dromar
etbs, prison, counterpost, aristocrats, colorless creatures.dek
>rith
spellslinger, green.dek, token.dek, elves
>treva
Elves, enchantress, counterpost, least text possible.dek, goodstuff, fliers
>Intet
splintertwin, !notmaelstrom
>Numot
Fliers, splitertwin, I copied TopandGo's deck back in the day
>Oros
copied one of the RC's decks, unconventional doomsday pile, white weenie
>teneb
Elves, prison, reanimator
>vorosh
enchantress/non-conventional control, control/voltron, counters, goodstuff, elves, prison
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>>98658275
Teneb mill + opponent reanimator + theft
Harvest the opponent's graveyards for game winning creatures.
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>>98658214
And yet it is a separate thing, and therefore UB.
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>>98658305
Of these my favorites were

>Crosis
Artifact Reanimator (ends up being MLD heavy woops cant use that anymore) so drop the artifacts and make it regular reanimator
>Darigaaz
Jund em out, its really fun to constantly swap out all the cool "the rock" style cards in Jund even if Darigaaz does little but force you to play with the 99 instead of building around the commander, that being said we play Head Games here
>Dromar
I've moved towards a Abdel Adrian combo deck lately which is pretty fun and ends the game without any of the usual stall tactics this deck used in the past. Imagine a deck that unironically loved seeing Thawing Glaciers that was Dromar in the past.
>Rith
Elves is the only way this deck didnt end up feeling like ass. The spellslinger version was a close 2nd.
>treva
I really like the goodstuff deck I made for her.
>Intet
I hate this guy, only has ever felt reasonable with splitertwin.dek
>Numot
Fun as a fliers deck, though this one might go unbuilt due to the hate it gets
>oros
Unconventional doomsday
>teneb
Prison but cant play it
>vorosh
enchantress is really awesome with him in a way other builds just arent
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>>98658308
I could try that, I tend not to build around the dragon ability too hard because in most games you get one maybe two activations off.
Rise of the Dark realms could be another good way to capitalize on mill though as can Jarad+Lord of Extinction that being said I really like being in dimir for those kinds of decks
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>>98658275
>>98658305
>>98658357
Holy shit boomer shut the fuck up this is a thread about EDH not about deck building or your personal therapy session
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>>98658443
i care
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>>98658443
Agreed, he isn't even shitflinging about UB or proxies so he's basically off topic.
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>>98658357
if you are already cutting numot for playability reasons, why not just pair down to 5. You can have an equal distribution of color pairing by using combinations (the mathematic concept). im sure theres at least one other deck you wouldnt mind cutting purely for viability issues
Darigaaz looks ass to play as does Oros and you expressed some issues with Intet (idk how RUG is like the goat combination)
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>>98658514
>(idk how RUG is like the goat combination)
have you ever tried not relying on a broken rug commander?
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I need someone else to look at this list
It started as a "What kind of burn deck could I run with Ojer Axonil?" and it turned out to be basically a "I watch you kill yourself" deck and I need a second opinion if this can actually work
I tried playtesting and seeing how much quick I can get Ojer out and it is good, but without opponents I wouldn't know if it is actually decent
Also I am a bit on a budget but I did concede on some cards as they seemed too good to not put them in, currently if I wanted to get all the cards I'm missing it'd cost me about 220€

https://moxfield.com/decks/aHSMAtKVrUaNZq6gn1SmGA
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>>98658527
it's gruul+ blue/izzet+green how hard could that be?

Do you want to be spellslinging with ramp spells instead of rocks or do you want a creature deck with counterspells?
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>>98658545
You are at the
>just play it
stage, you gotta just get games in.
You might want to look at your ramp/land count though.
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>>98658556
Wouldn't know where to get better ramp. Land count is okay somewhat. In 10 playtests only in 2 of those I couldn't play Ojer on curve
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>>98658546
a lot of the izzet cards that used to care about just instants and sorceries now just care about non-creatures kinda sucks they removed that friction imo.
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>>98658275
My Teneb has reanimation in it, but it's really not a deck that throws stuff into the graveyard quick to reanimate them. It's more of a get value from creature ETBs, board wipe, get value from exiting the battlefield, then reanimate in numerous ways if needed. Just grind down oppositions permanents that way until you either swing for the win, combo off or prevent them from playing anything anymore.
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>>98658571
There's a hell of a lot of really cheap mana rocks. If you got to your LGS just ask for the commander legends box and it will be full of 2 mana (sometimes enters tapped) rocks you can pick up for pennies
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>>98658577
Do you play the Yosei loop? I think I may remember your deck
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>>98658582
Yeah I've posted it before. Yes Yosei is one way to win.
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>>98658613
That deck is based. Wish i could play something like that its just not appropriate for the table.
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>>98657982
I love bottle gnomes.
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>>98658577
>>98658613
What's the Yosei loop?
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>>98658625
I am reminded of the fable of the silver egg. Its owner cracks it open to see what jewels it holds, only to discover a simple yellow yolk.
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>>98658648
Basically variations of this. You have Yosei out, a sac outlet and a way to reanimate him every turn. Volrath's Stronghold is another way to get him back each turn.

If you tap someone out, and they don't untap next step and repeat it's basically game over for 99% of decks at that point. Trying to remove Yosei becomes very difficult when you can always sac him in response.
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Im pretty new to magic and im trying to make a Mabel tribal deck, is the only way to make mice playable to just spam a ton of equipment? I played a deck with sunforger last night and it was cool but it didnt really feel like mouse tribal at all, I was just abusing Leyline of Resonance to double cast sorceries. Im close to just choosing a different Bloomburrow commander but id really like to make Mabel work. Do you guys have any ideas or anything im missing that could make a Mabel Mouse Tribal deck work? This is the deck I played last night that I copied off of someone else on Moxfield. I have some stuff in a Maybeboard but it feels like im just building around instants and not the mice https://archidekt.com/decks/26284519/meek_and_mighty_mousey_mice_never_play_nice
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>>98658758
>Im pretty new to magic
Cool
turn around and GTFO
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Jace was truly the planeswalker of all times
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anybody else seriously underwhelmed this >>98654476 is by far the card im most excited about so far was really hoping for planar chaos 2 or like MTG what ifs
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>>98658774
This is literally the coolest card in the set
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>>98658774
One waifu and a bunch of jace shit.
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>>98658814
wouldnt be as bad if all the interesting mirror world characters weren't all fucking uncommons
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>>98657890
it makes the cut in cedh decks despite being a 5 mana do nothing dude.
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>>98658845
Wizards again fucking up and focusing on characters no one gives a fuck about instead of putting the focus literally anywhere else.
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>>98658814
It gets so tiring; and yet, the shit to hate seems to never end
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>>98658845
I thought that was going to be the actual focus of the set so jokes on me.
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>>98658862
ready for my unprompted conspiracy theory?
Just like in 1984, they first must create the new truth before destroying the old. So a constant stream of remakes, reimaginings and bastardizations come out and are rejected by about half of your consumers, comprised mostly of people who are new to the franchise (the young, the previously uninterested and non-westaboo foreigners this fresh access to western culture via immigration or internet). You may have split your fanbase and people may hate you but eventually they will either move on to other things or in the very long run die off. You then have full control over the thing that used to have cache in the culture and it can be morphed into anything you want it to be and it still retains some of that cultural impact.
At this point you can throw away the original and only the facsimile remains, and it says whatever you want it to say.
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>>98657890
Yes and prophet of kruphix should be a GC too
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>>98658947
New Bake
>>98658947
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>>98656996
The gayest most transgender nigger award goes to………
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>>98658014
That text is correct you’re just a salty bitch.
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>>98658758
Could probably just run tribal matter cards like roaming throne or go wide with tokens, run changling cards, ect
That said Boros is kind of the equipment colors so you can be a touch pidgeonholed in what you make unless you really lean towards white or red in excess
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>>98658906
Don't worry man I got bamboozled too
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>>98656152
Tinybones
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>>98658796
man even the mythics in this set are uninteresting. not even asking for powerful ones



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