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>Jace got slimed on Kirkmaswdtmbt?
>>98656460>Geist of St. Kirk now Geist of St. Erika
>>98656469Oh shit my crappy BR Lizards actually got something
>>98656460Is JACE dead now or was it one of his token clones?
>>98656509Jace is dead.
can someone tl;dr the story for mewhy is Jace dead and what is Emrakul doing
>>98656514Rest in peace
>>98656531His killing created a million Jace Belerens.
>>98656531something still really bothers me about the rules changes to planeswalkers where they added "legendary" and made it so you can play like 7 different Jaces as long as they aren't the same exact one
Vorths of tg pls help Is that Nahiri on the Stoneforge Mystic art, or am I just being a racist with Arr Kor Rook Same
>>98656555It is Nahiri but yes you are also racist
>>98656555I'm 95% sure Nahiri was still locked in the Helvault during the events of Worldwake.
one set stories just feel bad
>>98656531Jace, Cunning Castaway made pw tokens too.
>>98656594We all miss blocks.
>>98656595He also made a Chilean sea bass dish!
>>98656595Pirate JACE
>>98656608This is a sly reference to his later moniker, Jace the Mindfreak, as Chilean sea bass is actually just a marketing name for the Patagonian toothfish.
Hapatra, Desert's Fang2BBGLegendary Creature Human ClericWhen this enters, for each opponent, choose up to one target creature they control. put X -1/-1 counters on those creatures, where X is the greatest mana value among cards in your graveyard.3/3U
>>98656672Hapatra, Desert's Frost3ULegendary Creature Human WizardWhen this enters, for each opponent, choose up to one target creature they control. Tap those creatures and put a stun counter on each of them.2U: untap target creature.4/3U
>>98656687
>>98656677So Jace turned Amphonket from an Egyptian plane into a Hyperborea plane?
>>98656708Dunno. Apparently the flavor text hints that Hapatra slew Kefnet and stole his mystical lore for herself, so the broader implication is that the mortals overthrew their gods on Jace's Amonkhet.
>>98656517Jace was trying to create his own multiverse supposedly free of suffering and which instead was full of its own suffering because it turns out that you can't assume all suffering was at the hands of the few major multiverse-wide tragedies and specific personal decisions that happened to his friends, but the spell to overlay it onto the real multiverse (which would effectively overwrite some 9 trillion people) required him to use his physical body as a conduit. So making said body not be alive disrupts the spell. Jace had also been ripping out various facets of himself and his personality, the parts that disagreed with his plan, leaving only the raw logic. Said other parts agreed that death was the only way to stop the spell. Vraska did the killing herself because a dagger is a far kinder way to die than any methods a telepath would use on himself.Emrakul was in the moon on Innistrad, obviously. Jace had sent Tam, a person he'd created with a chunk of his own personality and curiosity (why he did so, he removed the part that could say). In any case, he'd sent her to Innistrad to show her that the original multiverse was full of suffering. While there, she reaches out mentally and finds Emrakul and has a chat with her, who becomes aware that Tam knows of a whole multiverse. And Emrakul, been fasting for ages. As the echoverse is being made real and after Jace's death, empowered by his spark, Tam mentally reaches out across planes to call Emrakul to the buffet table to prune this incorrect multiverse from the real one. What she does afterwards is unknown.
>>98656720>last part of Jace is a girlBasically created a whole multiverse for a coming out party
>>98656775
>>98656509Post yfw it IS actually a token and that's why Empower Jace is a mechanic
>>98656709way of the necromancer is cheap enough I think I might actually have combo potential, play a walker with a broken ult, sacrifice some creatures and activate it right away
>>98656808But I don't want to empower Jace!
>>98656775Technically it's the first part he pulled away, but not necessarily because it was a shard of himself. The story was fairly clear that he was making a person, but a cost of that spell was that a piece of yourself would be in the new person and not retrievable. I suspect that, at least subconsciously, he really wanted to create the daughter he couldn't have with Vraska. The first thing he says she isn't is a daughter, but Jace has lied to himself forever on many things and why else would she have come out part-gorgon? He had a message sent with the spark saying she was his fail-safe because sparks are at a premium in the multiverse, but it really feels more like passing down knowledge and experience rather than her just being Jace with a different body and name. We'll have to see what she does in the future, though.
>>98656818Do you think she will even show up in any of the upcoming sets next year?
Jace was so deep in the closet he basically created Narnia to come out
>>98656690>there is no suffering in my universe>t. Jace
>>98656822Garruk... of the veil?
>>98656822>>98656895he loves to accessorize
>>98656824Quite possibly. She was one of the focused characters for this arc, so she might not be one for the next one, but it depends on how the next arc starts. I could see her just staying on Vryn with most of her story relevance passed, or her to be involved now that she's 'whole' and curious to go planeswalk around. I think it also depends on whether they want to have her continue Jace's legacy as one of the faces of Magic or not. If so, she would need more screentime.
>>98656895Ye
Loads of Garruk art made for the set.
>>98656905
>>98656901I'm 99% sure there's gonna be a card thats like "Tam and Loot, Siblings" or something like that in 2027
Garruk was cool in the story but he was barely even in it.
Yesterday there was a lot of shitposting about Emrakul, which made me re-read the Eldritch Moon story.I'm actually behind, haven't read the Fracture or even summary posted here. But I know Emrakul appears. In what capacity, I wonder?Couldn't this just be all her keikaku? Everyone always being her pawns?
>>98656944that's probably why
>>98656993nah, she just takes the invitation that's offered to her
This story seems overly convoluted and haphazardly written. Shit was legit better when it was just Nicol Bolas going around, being an asshole because he wanted his full power back.
>>98657019*cracks open a coors light*it was better when the phyrexians were invading every weekend
>>98657019If anything the plot is fairly straightforward. For the most part it's very clear who is doing what, why they're doing it, and how they're feeling about it at any given moment.
>>98656818The story was pretty firm on her NOT being Jace's daughter (in a way that even the author said was to get people to understand that), but they never really come to a clear answer on what she IS in relation to Jace. She's his creation, and sort of a continuation of him, but very clearly her own person too? The best comparison I've seen is Doctor Who regenerations honestly, or a sort of reincarnation, but "pseudo-clone of Jace that gained her own personhood" is also sort of correct, and it's left up in the air how much of her is still 'Jace'.
>>98656944Ajani did even less. Garruk at least got to have a cool little moment where he helped the child Jace fragment calm himself. Ajani was just kind of... There, too.
Is there a storyline reason why the non-echoverse “Way of” enchantments have Empower Jace when they’re trying to kill him?
>>98657076Because the non-Theorist parts of Jace are working with them against the Theorist is my best take.
>>98657076They collected parts of him to use against the Theorist.
>>98656719Based they were all puppets of Bolas.That the red one got to live is a travesty of justice.
>>98657171Bolas wouldn't have done shit to Amonkhet in the Echoverse. Same as Phyrexians and Eldrazi, he's one of those things that would never get to exist.
>>98657187My point still stands, the red god from Amonkhet should be killed.Same with the gods of Theros.
Are you ready for 3 years of Planeswalker spam in Standard?
>they
>>98657236Yes, because Ruric and Thar are two separate people sharing the same body. That's how Ravnican ogres work.
>>98657236>"they" continuing to out ESLs at every turn
>>98657236You are a special kind of stupid. You don't even need the lore to know that this guy with two heads is two people sharing a body.
>>98657227Identity echo on a jace token is a real bummer
is kaito supposed to be a ftm tranny?
Why does Emrakul get all the cool personalization but Kozilek and Ulamog were put down like monsters?
>>98657247>>98657252>it's actually plural except when they/them decide to identify as singular
>>98656720>Jace had also been ripping out various facets of himself and his personality, the parts that disagreed with his plan, leaving only the raw logic.Ah so one of the writers got inspired by Elden Ring, which has Miquella divesting himself of his emotions and body parts to ascend to godhood, which also failed. Also Miquella is symbolically capable of growing into becoming a woman as he is a permement male child but could grow into womenhood. Like how jaces daughter/fem jace is the new Jace now.
@98657297>Also Miquella is symbolically capable of growing into becoming a woman as he is a permement male child but could grow into womenhood.Bad bait is bad.
>>98657290No, because the same is of them both. The card.
>>98657316Anon there's a bunch of clues in game about how Miquella, while male in game, is symbolically a woman>Miquella wears a white gown with pale gold hair, mounted upon the shoulders of his half brother/full brother Radahn creating a alchemical Rebis, the divine hermaphrodite made from the Red King and White Queen>St Trina, a goddess is his other half and literally his love that he gave up>Nascent Butterflies are his butterflies who look like they emerged from its cocoon for its entire life. Symbolic he his just born his whole life and has not grown into his true persona as either a man (Miquella) or a woman St Trina>All the other Empyreans are womenAnyway MTG can't do interesting characters like this even if they tried
is MTG dead yet? I just realized I havenet been paying attention for like 6 months which is really unlike me
imagine this card>when enters, opponent sacs a creature of their choise. when they do, this creature deals damage to them equal to their toughness.who is being dealt damage here, the creature to itself or to your the opponent?it's the creature to itself because it would say "to that creature's controller" in other case. still I cannot wait for wotc to fuck it up, that's what they do
>>98657347It depends on the sacrificed creature's preferred pronoun. If it doesn't identify as "them" then it will deal damage to the opp instead.
>>98657340What do you mean by MTG?
>A fearless Cabal knight, Danitha carries on the Capashen legacy. Since her father's death, Danitha has taken up his role as the right hand of Belzenlok and leads the demon's forces into battle against the foolish Benalish houses.>Many years ago, the Capashens were the mightiest house in all of Benalia. But the other houses envied their wealth and power, leading to a civil war that chased House Capashen into hiding. Among the Cabal, the once noble house found a new purpose, and a hereditary promise of revenge that has been passed down to Danitha.>Now, Danitha is the house's greatest weapon. A spear to lead the knights of the Cabal to glory against their enemies and raze Benalia to the ground in the name of both Capashen and Belzenlok.
>>98657379I mean building a magic the gathering deck, bringing it to an LGS, playing against other players and tuning it over time Personally I couldnt give less of a shit about collecting
>>98657387Then no. EDH is more alive than ever.
>No single person has influenced Innistrad as much as Edgar Markov (no matter what Olivia Voldaren might tell you). Centuries ago, Edgar discovered and shared the secret to alchemical vampirism. Every vampire on Innistrad can count him as an ancestor in one way or another, and his grandson Sorin created the angel humans worshiped as their protector.>All of this is still true, even after Edgar's recent failed wedding/power grab. Freshly single, he has taken to mingling in the seedy taverns of Havengul. Some may call this hiding, but make no mistake—Edgar awaits his next chance to strike.>Innistrad survives. Edgar Markov doesn't care about the specifics.>Centuries ago, Edgar received the gift of lycanthropy and long life from a demonic patron. Soon his aristocratic family transformed into the first werewolf pack on Innistrad. When vampires began to appear on the plane, Edgar showed them who the true apex predator was.>But not everyone was happy with the Markov pack tearing a path across the plane. Edgar's own grandson Sorin, while in his human form, betrayed Edgar by creating and imprisoning him in the Helvault—a prison for anything that might threaten humanity.>Now that he's free, Edgar has quickly defeated the other packleaders of Innistrad who rose in his absence and united the howlpacks under his own banner. The Markov pack is stronger than ever. One group remains, hoping to keep him from total victory: Sorin, Avacyn, and their wretched legions of angels and undead.
I haven't played arena in months so this is some bottom of the barrel ranked, but holy fucking shit I haven't giggled this hard in years.Deck2 Mechanized Production (MAR) 574 Academy Manufactor (MH2) 2194 Prosperous Innkeeper (AFR) 2002 Peregrin Took (LTR) 1813 Samwise Gamgee (LTR) 2224 Lonis, Cryptozoologist (MH2) 2044 Mockingbird (BLB) 614 Tamiyo, Inquisitive Student (MH3) 2424 Gilded Goose (ELD) 1601 Otawara, Soaring City (NEO) 2714 Glasspool Mimic (ZNR) 601 Boseiju, Who Endures (NEO) 2663 Hallowed Fountain (RNA) 2514 Breeding Pool (RNA) 2461 Hedge Maze (MKM) 2621 Sea Gate Restoration (ZNR) 761 Witch Enchanter (MH3) 2392 Temple Garden (GRN) 2583 Turntimber Symbiosis (ZNR) 2151 Spara's Headquarters (SNC) 2571 Tireless Provisioner (MH2) 1804 Neoform (WAR) 2062 Trail of Crumbs (ELD) 179this is the list I'm currently playing around with. Trying to get the balance of "find the engine" vs "the actual engine" right.sorry to this random mono red player I just needed to make sure it worked.
>>98657340yeah its deadcaptian kirk killed it imo
>Abandoned at a young age, Kytheon Iora discovered early on that no one was ever coming to save him. While in prison, Kytheon learned sinister magic from a corrupt warden, who later offered him and his fellow inmates their freedom if they could defeat the titan, Heliod.>Kytheon succeeded, but only because his magic killed the other inmates by siphoning their lifeforce to strengthen him. He was the only survivor. Instead of feeling remorse, Kytheon only felt relief. Anyone who knew his past was dead. He was free to redefine his life.>For a time, Kytheon traded on his reputation as the bravest warrior on Theros. But eventually serving other people's expectations grated on him. Embracing the relief (and power) he felt after defeating Heliod, Kytheon realized if he killed all those who learned the truth about him, he could never be bound again.>No family, no friends, and nothing to anchor him—he took a new name to avoid being remembered as he once was. The man now called Gideon Jura revels in a freedom paid with drained and broken bodies left in his wake.
>>98657395Man that sounds like a neat story hook that last part, shame it doesn't matter.
>Kiora is a merfolk who has a deep connection to the creatures of the sea. She is seen leading krakens, leviathans, and serpents into battle, often with the goal of protecting their homes from invaders and tyrants.>Kiora is known to be arrogant and egocentric in her worst moments, which led her to stealing the magical bident of the sea god Thassa. At her best, she is a relentless defender who uses her powers to save others from danger.>While traveling the Omenpaths to new oceans, Kiora found herself unable to find a route back home to Zendikar. Along the way, she's discovered a world that might just possess the very thing she's wanted since learning her god Cosi was a lie.>The mightiest dragon rider on Zendikar is the merfolk Kiora. Years before her birth, Kiora's clan of merfolk fled the Kor Empire's grasp and found asylum in the geothermal pools of Akoum. Kiora and the generation of merfolk raised in Akoum embrace the fires and waters of Zendikar equally.>From a young age, the dragons in the sky captured Kiora's fascination. Her curiosity and bravery eventually influenced her to see the mighty beasts up close at the central volcano. Where others cowered in fear, Kiora came to revere the dragons and discovered she could magically communicate with them. Over the years, she earned enough of their trust to ride them.>Now, Kiora is known as the fiercest warrior in Zendikar's skies. She defends her home in Akoum and can melt the earth into molten lava with a hammer gifted to her by a Planeswalker.
For context, giving up "he or she" in favor of "they" is not exclusive to Magic.(early 2000s card vs current year)
>Alquist Proft is not real.>You may have heard the rumors. They spring up like weeds whenever a major crime happens. Perhaps you've seen the intricate corkboards with their string and portraits, their so-called clues. Or the allegations that an unseen mastermind has been controlling crime in Ravnica for years to some unknown end.>Ask yourself how this could be possible. An arson by a troupe of Rakdos pyromancers, the assassination of a lawmage, a bank heist in Orzhova itself, and the poisoning of a Simic gene vat—all linked? They have nothing in common. And yes, I've heard the theory that this was a distraction for the looting of the Boros armory. We've accounted for every spear and sword.>But people who look into the myth of Alquist Proft tend to go missing, so I'd suggest you stop here—for your own good.
Maybe I missed it at some point in time but was there ever an explanation for the black and white Ral Zarek?
>>98657395So Averclyn wasn't created then
>>98657435He was an early agent from the Echoverse to help secure some knowledge on Arcavios' merging, I guess? He shows up in very brief cameos in the story but doesn't really get up to much.
>>98657437>Planeswalkers, demons, renegade angels, flesh-eating frogs, and strange biomechanical invaders—nothing has broken Thalia's spirit yet.>Thalia has proven her valor time and time again. As the founder of the Order of Saint Traft, Thalia has always put the wellbeing of Innistradi people above everything—even her own faith.>After losing many in her order to the Phyrexian Invasion, Thalia has found herself working with Arlinn Kord to set up defenses all over the plane. Most people who wander into Innistrad via Omenpath don't survive, but wherever the next threat comes from, Thalia will be there to confront it.>Avacyn commands an undying loyalty from her flock of cathars. For many years, Thalia was no different. Other cathars looked to her for inspiration; when their faith wavered, they knew she could reinvigorate them. Eternal salvation was theirs … if only they served as best they could.>For her loyalty, Thalia was appointed guardian of the Helvault, where Avacyn stored her most fearsome foes.>When Thalia discovered that Avacyn's would-be allies Sigarda, Bruna, Gisela, and Liesa had been imprisoned within the Helvault, her unbreakable faith finally shattered. She abandoned her post to confront the archangel. Avacyn ordered Odric, Thalia's longtime comrade, to kill Thalia.>Wracked with guilt, Odric interred Thalia's relics himself. No one expected that her geist would protect the cathedral just as she'd protected the Helvault in life. Anyone, no matter who, can find shelter at Thalia's cathedral, where even Avacyn fears to tread.
I'm going to shamefully admit that I still want to make fanwalkers and junk. My current idea is that the missing colors from The Reaper King (blue & white) isn't just a loss in power for the scarecrow but created something tangible for him to search for. To reabsorb into himself and regain his might. I'm debating on what these "things" Reaper is searching for. Whether they should just be like an absurdly powerful item, or some type of fey life.
I hate that Theorist Jace was the "bad guy". Wouldve been cooler if it has been like, ambitious jace, or jace's desire to do good. Then Chandra et. al. Come across Logic and Reason Jace and say "Why didn't you stop this!?" and he says >"I was the first to go"
>Winter is a survivor in every sense of the word. He's been a calculating guide for a price, a traitor to the person he loved more than anyone, and—most notably—the reluctant right hand of Valgavoth, who rules the inescapable, plane-spanning rooms of Duskmourn. Trapped within the House's walls for over a decade, Winter lives a harsh, hardened life where trust is fleeting and altruism spells death. After several failures to please Valgavoth and his demands of conquest, Winter is now cursed to serve the demon's will, a fate worse than death awaiting his next misstep.>Imprisoned once again in Duskmourn, Winter is more alone than ever. But after witnessing planes beyond the House and the limits of Valgavoth's seemingly infinite power, he has something he never thought he'd have again—a glimmer of hope.>Winter is an unconventional survivor. Trapped for a decade within the inescapable, plane-spanning rooms of Duskmourn, he has become a powerful and cunning leader to all who follow him—even if the harsh landscape leaves them no other choice. After witnessing his best friend consumed by the House and hearing apparitions with their voice, Winter now believes that defeating Marina Vendrell will reverse all the deaths caused by her control over Valgavoth.>Increasingly lighthearted with his allies and ruthlessly calculating with his enemies, Winter now approaches taking down the House with a frightening vigor. He's not only committed to surviving but also getting his allies out. Armed with his trusty club and his intellect, Winter hunts Marina Vendrell to rescue her from herself—whether she wants to be or not.
>>98657469>Evil Marina lords over Valgavoth as the ruler of DuskmournSure that sounds fun.
>>98657465Theorist was broadly his stubbornness and his cold logic and unchecked ambition.
They actually killed Alchemy. Holy shit. I mean, it is way too little too late for Arena, but still. They have had five entire years to get all Modern cards into Arena and didn't accomplish a thing.
>>98657489Also, 93% of Standard games on Arena are BO1, that's fucking grim.
>>98657424>>The mightiest dragon rider on Zendikar is the merfolk Kiora.Now hold on I know a Shandalar ripoff when I see it
>>98657449>Gitrog didn't monch herBoo! BOOOO!
>>98657557>265x370
>>98657557>recycles fetchlands>retriggers landfallthat's some neat synergy potential
>>98657560>Anon so old he's starting to have presbyopiaGet off the internet grandpa.
>>98657391He asked about MTG, not EDH
>>98657560this is Zoolander, isn't it?
>>98656545It's the same as playing 5 niv mizzets. It makes sens
>>98657618The game you think of as MTG is dead. Long live MTG (EDH).
>>98656858Jace is BASED and doesn't consider you cringe nu-planes real
>>98657662Yes i can tell by the pixels
In Jace's fucked up, twisted multiverse, Segovians are normal sized.
>>98656709how is it that they're the same person but the white liliana has waaaaaaaay smaller tits
>>98657747Evil is stored in the tits
>>98657747Being an evil woman means you wear push-up bras.
>>98657722>Kikewater declares mono white to “care the MOST about planeswalkers”>designs set that has every color care about interacting with planeswalkersChalk another one up for Kikewater’s lies, along with everything else he lied about White
>>98657646This is kinda neat. Probably more cute than good, though.
>>98657747We just don't know.Liliana Blanco was also pretty fucking evil in the story, she was torturing people for fun and just sat lounging around and acting superior smoking her pipe the entire time.
>yuriko is a dykehas this been known or is this new
How the fuck is good Lilliana even alive? If she never zombified her bro and never became a planeswalker she would have did pre-mending from old age
>>98657384>Whenever you commit a crime [black lady] gets strongerWow.
>>98657803Something something healing powers so strong they keep her young something.
>>98657782I mean, it’s in her name.
>>98657803Don't ask questions just consume product.
>>98657722what is there to cheat out with this?
>>98656429Made for Aragon bbc
>>98657876There is the new red "craterhoof" thingy I guess. This enchantment is quite a bit worse than just good old Transmogrify / Polymorph, but at least you can use it repeatedly if the game drags out. Maybe a one of as a backup plan?
>>98657747She's wearing a chest piece compressing her chest.
This looks annoying as shit to deal with.
>>98657317If it was the card then they should've used it.
>>98657646I will say it again this set should have been about Hexhaven only, is by far more cool than this "HURR PLANAR CHAOS PW AND ICONIC CHARACTERS, MEMBER? NOW THEY ARE TWISTED!!"
>>98657930Should have been an old school block.Set 1: Just Hexhaven, to introduce the concept.Set 2: Other echoverse locations / characters / etc.Set3: The actual planar overlay and battle against Jace (use the Jace token mechanic here)
>>98657919This is going to ruin so many limited games lol
>>98657782Yuriko had basically no lore prior. We didn't even know if she was present day Kamigawa or not.
Anyone else feel like this set is just a slightly more interesting hat set? I don't give a shit about Gallia. Why the fuck is she here when we could've had way more interesting and iconic creatures?
New Gallias, also apparently Brandon Sanderson is a pit guy.
>>98657965No you are just mentally ill.
>>98657972>picture literally has Sanderson calling it "Gallia AKA pit satyr"
>>98657972See there's these things called jokes created via exaggerating something somebody else has said.
>>98657978Oh my mistake, I didn't notice it.
>>98657768Kill yourself, white mana wigger
>>98657959No because if you showed the "hat" cards to someone who doens't know the characters they might not be able to tell the hat version from the real magic version.Meanwhile same mid 2000s guy could easily tell that Detective creature type, or Max Speed cars are off
>>98657959Finally more black Satyrs.
Is no one going to address the fact that Jace was too much of a pansy to kill a 1000-year-old woman
black aragorn
>>98657995...Weird criteria, but I can kinda see where you're coming from. Either way, this is the second-worst set of the year in my view (Marvel is slightly worse) and Star Trek isn't going to change that, as mid as it looks.
>>98658026Star Trek lets the most annoying person at your LGS laugh and slap his big fat gassy belly at the Go for the Throat + Captain James T. Kirk combo.
>>98657959The concept of a “hat” set isn’t just that characters from multiple planes show up, it’s that they show up in a genre unsuited for them. Core sets, for instance, aren’t “hat” sets because the characters are exactly where they should be, doing what they normally do.What makes a “hat” set is when you have stuff like a demon lord from a Slavic-inspired fantasy world show up in a cowboy hat. Gallia here isn’t Gallia as we know her, but she still exists in the context of a Greek mythology pastiche. And, to take a step further, the fact that this explicitly ISN’T the same Gallia as the one we know means that Gallia isn’t inexplicably out of character in the appearance in the way that Marchesa was when she decided to hang out in bars on Thunder Junction despite being a queen on Fiora.
>>98657959I think this alt-Gallia is more interesting than all the others that have been spoiled so far. That shit is sad and is what will likely happen to her when she dies regardless of this timeline bullshit. Like that is how a cruel afterlife can fuck that character in the hardest way imaginable. Everything feels like the laziest shit imaginable but Gallia getting totally fucked over feels like the only thing in this whole set that feels like someone put some effort into making this shit sad.None of these alternate universe characters makes any fucking sense apart from this Gallia, which we can pretend is like future version rather than an alternative version. It's like these characters are so fucking thin that you can colorshift them without any worry about whether or not it makes sense. There is no world where someone with Liliana's mentality aligns with white or Chandra being blue - these characters are a certain way and it's not these colors. This whole entire shitshow has not been a wasted opportunity but just another example of dogshit Wizards writing exploring ideas that have been shit in any work of fiction and I'm sorry you think Gallia is wasted but for me it's the only redeeming thing in this whole shitshow of a set. The worst shit in Magic is when Guff literally rewrites the future and this set has been basically all that but with the past, a whole set dedicated to the stupidest thing in Magic until now.
>>98658011
>>98658074>There is no world where someone with Liliana's mentality aligns with white or Chandra being blue - these characters are a certain way and it's not these colors.Are you actually retarded? The entire conceit is that, if formative events in the characters’ lives had played out differently, they would have grown into being different people. If Chandra’s father hadn’t died, a chain of events gets set in motion that results in her studying in more controlled circumstances and working with, rather than against, the consulate. If Gideon wasn’t taken under the wing of a good man while he was in jail, but was instead taught about life’s harshness by a corrupt warden, he wouldn’t have had his sense of justice.It’s very much a nurture-over-nature perspective, though one could make the point that the similarities that make them recognizable can be chalked up to the nature half of the equation.
Shivan Drake (blue buttbreathing) when?
>>98657965>disappointed by Gallia’s card in THB having so much working against it (card space wasted on a pointless tribal anthem, discard at random)>vaguely hoping that they give the qt satyr girl another card at some point that might be more interesting to tinker with>this insteadDamn you, monkey paw.
>>98658000Nice numbers.It is silly, but he had very much ripped out the parts of him that could nut up and do so. You'd think raw logic could go through with it for the results, but I guess the amount of emotion required to be a person still stopped him.
>>98658000Is there any male character that has the gumption to do anything? Jace, pussed out. Garruk, pussed out. Ajani, useless, didnt even have a chance to puss out. Sorin, absent, but wouldve pussed out. Tezz, cyberpussing elsewhere. The list goes on.
>>98658122Captain Kirk, Climbing A Mountain
>>98658122None of them have that Urza je ne sais quoi.
>>98658102>You'd think raw logic could go through with it for the results,He wasn’t “The Logician”, he was “The Theorist”. He could get everything in place, in theory. He could determine the course of action necessary to achieve his goals, in theory. But he couldn’t put it into practice because theory was all that was left.When you think about it, there are a lot of questions around why Jadzi felt it necessary to kill herself there. If she hadn’t, the aberrations would have been forced back into Jace’s head and could potentially have wrestled the Theorist into submission. It’s really difficult to come up with a good reason for her to take such an accelerationist action.
what do you guys think black and blue craterhoofs will do?
>>98658152I miss Urza like you wouldn't believe. This isn't just boomer talk, I genuinely think he was an interesting and well written character through all of his arcs from brilliant young man, to obsessed artificer, to guardian of the realm waging war, to early planeswalking adventures to slowly going insane realizing that he isn't omnipotent enough to fix the past, to enacting the grandest of all schemes at the cost of his own life (and the lives of many others, and he actually planned it that way). The guy was crazy, but he was crazy SMART.
>>98658161Something something "she saw the future and realised this was the way it was going", which feels like a bit of a cop-out. Maybe it'll lead to stuff down the line, but it does feel very strange for Jadzi to just go "oh good this is the one we're on" and... Make the Theorist's plan happen?
No side stories? I'm surprised, the premise feels ripe for milking.
>>98658166Blue checks cards drawn this turn and black checks creatures in your graveyard boom done ship it
>>98658161>But he couldn’t put it into practice because theory was all that was left.how long until Jace Potential Man edits crop up
>>98656822>primal warrior of the jungle >completely shaved neck down
>>98658182I feel like they wanted to go pretty clear on "The Echoverse is not worth exploring because it's not real" so you don't feel bad about Emrakul eating an entire reality of people because don't worry they're not REAL people with REAL feelings.
>>98658094God I wish. Imagine the smell.
>>98658178Probably because Emrakul needed to be out of the moon for nonspecific reasons
>>98657071It’s pretty clear that they were trying to avoid>having one of their most iconic characters be responsible for a single mother scenario>suggesting that having a child is the ultimate purpose in one’s life
>>98657928They stopped using "it" for legendaries.
>>98658166I think Elder Gargaroth works better for a super cycle than Craterhoof.
>>98657985Stay mad kike. Israel is a false state
>>98658223What does it have to do with anything?
>>98658200I mean, were you around for the shit-flinging over DTK? Not giving people the opportunity to get emotionally attached to the Echoverse is objectively the correct move.
>>98658200feels like a wild move to give the fanbase a taste of something interesting and then deliberately squander it in favor of jacewank
>>98658223>tfw Jewish and also anti-ZionistYour words have no power here.
>>98658208It leaves it a bit of a muddled mess what Tam is meant to actually be. Reincarnation? Clone? Her own thing that happens to have Jace's memories? Jace but trans? All of the above? A secret sixth thing?
>>98658232I feel like 'timeline shift' isn't as bad narratively as "entire alternate reality gets horrifically eaten by an incomprehensible monster".
>>98657768White got instant speed walker tutor.
>>98658243Doubly retarded as they very clearly wanted to infer that it was the child that he and Vraska couldn't have but then thought (wrongly) that it would be weird and give people the ick if he flat out created her. You can tell the author of the stories leaned hard on the "you look just like our daughter would" angle as much as they could get away with because it makes for a much more interesting story but eh.
>>98658243If they hadn’t literally made her a gorgon, it would have been easy.>little sisterAny other species and that could have worked. But making her a gorgon when Jace was slamming that snussy so hard and so regularly really puts that option pretty far from one’s mind.
>>98658094That ability is called armouring.
>>98658249If so, that’s even more reason to avoid emotional connection. People were fucking PISSED about losing KTK Tarkir, and that was with a bunch of “oh well you know maybe the clans could rise again” winks and nods. Letting people get really invested in the specifics of the Echoverse, only to then have the whole thing get eaten without any hint of a possibility of seeing it again, would not have gone down well.
>>98658161The way i interpreted it, this was for the sake of tam. If jace was stopped before he casted the spell, she never gets his spark, and the echoverse dies with her. She didn't give a shit about jace, but she at least knew about tam somewhat and probably liked her.
>>98658273Yet they have Jace, Lili, Tam and Vraska all say she's NOT his daughter. So now she's... She's just Tam I guess. Is Tam Jace 2.0? Probably not, but maybe? It's weird. I feel like I'd have been happier without the "Tam gets Jace's memories" bit, because that's a 'cleaner' end to Jace and a good fresher start for Tam.
>>98658260>but then thought (wrongly) that it would be weird and give people the ick if he flat out created herI’m pretty sure the actual reason is that they don’t want to be pushing the message that everyone needs to have kids to be fulfilled as a couple.
>>98658280No, it's buttbreathing because it makes the creature thicker and it's the opposite of firebreathing.
>>98658161She chose the future where Beleren dies for good instead of being subjugated into quitting.Old women are vindictive like this.
>We could've had an entire set focusing on Hexhaven cards, another on interactions between Strixhaven and Hexhaven with some Jace bullshit speckled inbetween and another on Emrakul eating the fucking alternate universeI can't believe I miss War of the Spark. We get the most sets a year we've ever gotten and somehow it's all fucking rushed into a month period before we move onto another retarded UB set that will never see reprints or have any story value.
>>98658292I refuse to indulge your flatulence fetish.https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Aarmoring&unique=cards&utm_source=tagger
Would you Thalia, The Survivor?
>>98657424>>While traveling the Omenpaths to new oceans, Kiora found herself unable to find a route back home to Zendikar. Along the way, she's discovered a world that might just possess the very thing she's wanted since learning her god Cosi was a lie.NAUCTIS HYPE?!
>>98658311>scryfall as a reliable source
>>98658318Yeah she's probably stumbled onto Nauctis and went "Holy shit this fucking rules".
>>98658289>This time, though, instead of emotion she feels … dreams. Goals. Ambitions. Wants beyond the material. She wants to learn how to ride a horse. She wants to eat a mango. She wants to see her friends, travel with her friends, visit somewhere wonderful. She wants to help a stranger and doesn't care if they thank her. She wants to solve a complicated problem. She wants to have her heart broken. She wants to see Vraska. She wants to swim in the sea. The thoughts are confusing, tantalizing. She didn't realize she could have wants like these. She's never had them before.>Tam grips her temples as the rest of her settles into place. Her cleverness shines and glimmers, stretching across her mind like constellations in a starlit sky. Her outlook fills as a dark, alluring lake in her heart, a deep understanding of the meaninglessness—and meaning—of it all. High up, near that starry sky, stands a tower, a place to watch from … and discover far-flung truths. Around her is a fence, an unbreakable barrier, from behind which she can keep her soul safe. Her mind is secured with the fortifications of a survivor; her hands tremble with the sense memory of a thousand handshakes and diplomacies; the space at her hip tingles with emptiness, having never known holster or knife; and closest to her heart is the assurance that no matter how little she has, she may always start over.I really don’t get the impression that she has Jace’s complete suite of memories. There’s always the chance that there’s a whole Jace hidden away in there to be reconstituted later, but I feel like Vraska would lose her patience with him if he did it again.
>>98657424>>While traveling the Omenpaths to new oceans, Kiora found herself unable to find a route back home to Zendikar.Thanks, Nahiri!No, seriously, this may be your smartest decision this century.
>>98656720Urza would 100% do what Jace did too if he could.
>>98658328Nta, but I feel theyre trying to steer the story into the 'spark' direction. With Jaces spark being a specific archetype, before caried by Jace, now caried by Tam. It grew with Jace and led him to his death. Im unsure who else has inherited a spark, besides Karn from Urza. But I find Tin boy too boring to actually care about.
>>98656469Hexhaven has not-bloomborrow and not-lorwyn students ?
>>98658313manface and massive shoulders
>alchemy is killthis is the best 9/11 ever!!!!
>>98656672better in limited than BG Vraska.
>>98658352No. Urza realizes suffering builds character. He inflicted it constantly on the NuWalkers amd the Weatherlight crew.
>>98658354The only other possible contender is Davriel. Sparks are part of an individual’s soul—they don’t exactly get redistributed that easily.
>>98656677She looks cool. I hope the "up to one" and "Tap those" are not in the original card tho.
>>98658358Which doesn’t make sense, since the Planeswalker’s Guide specifically stated that it doesn’t accept students from off-plane.
>>98658365So anyway let's see the prize Kaladesh put up for a random race...
>>98656687Cute and somewhat good (3 mana is rough post powercreep era)
>>986583605 years too late
>>98658354Karn inherited Urza's, lost it, then got Venser's, and lost that too. He never really felt that Venser-y, and he had SOME broad thematic similarities to Urza as being an inventor that fucked up but not really that similar as a person.
>>98656690She is good. Enter possibly kill something and has DT for 1 mana. If it was any permanent it would be broken.
>Jace's Dying Dream: the Set
>>98656690Mabel x Loot
>>98658375The Aetherspark is dumb, but it does fall under >they don’t exactly get redistributed that easily.given that nobody can figure out how the crazy bitch made it.
>>98656709Black one is possibly broken. White one is shit.I could see the black one being played in Sephirot decks (magic is better than ever TM)
>>98658384Don’t forget that it’s ambiguous as to whether Urza ever had a spark of his own or whether he just got Glacian’s.
>>98657424where's evil sarkhan who fucking hates dragons
Oh right this art had to be on a card didn't it.
>>98658406And alt art. I still don't like Jace dying.
>>98656905>>98656919garbage. Only ok in limited.
Perfect day to reveal an exploding tower.
>>98658402Evil Sarkhan still loves dragons, but he molests them.
>>98658419Now that's comedic timing.
>>98658414I never realized Vraska was so short. I can no longer feel respect for her.
>>98658414>>98658406he is in a better place now...is with his bro gideon and his friend tamiyo
>>98658426I refuse to believe normal sarkhan vol doesn't molest dragons
so where did jace even get the raw power to create an entire multiverse
>>98658438From Emrakul. People still don't believe me. But it's all her doing. Jace is not even dead.
>>98657384>white>once each turn>tomboyshe is not good.>black>whenever you commit a crime she gets bigger>baldThe card is better but the art worse.
>>98658432Oh yeah Jace is canonically like 5'10, I dunno how tall Vraska is.
Jace Birdleren
>>98658438Meditation Realm. Ugin knew it could do shit like this and being Ugin chose not to, Bolas never figured it out he thought the place was just a good pocket dimension base to scheme in.
>>98657395>Edgar's recent failed weddingI could pass on remembering we had a weeding set, thx...Alternate Innistrad looks better than most new planes :(
>>98657416Helliod as a Titan is better than Heliod as a Phyrexian.
flash flying
>>98658434>he is in a better place now...or rather, he's in the same place, but now he's got a big hole through him
>>98658483Penumbra Sphinx
>>98658482I could never forget. It's where I met my wife.
I need someone else to look at this listIt started as a "What kind of burn deck could I run with Ojer Axonil?" and it turned out to be basically a "I watch you kill yourself" deck and I need a second opinion if this can actually workI tried playtesting and seeing how much quick I can get Ojer out and it is good, but without opponents I wouldn't know if it is actually decenthttps://moxfield.com/decks/aHSMAtKVrUaNZq6gn1SmGA
>>98658523ask here >>98653324
>>98658528fuck, thank you
>>98658394like sex?
>>98657449>>When Thalia discovered that Avacyn's would-be allies Sigarda, Bruna, Gisela, and Liesa had been imprisoned within the Helvault, her unbreakable faith finally shattered. She abandoned her post to confront the archangel. Avacyn ordered Odric, Thalia's longtime comrade, to kill Thalia.>>Wracked with guilt, Odric interred Thalia's relics himself. No one expected that her geist would protect the cathedral just as she'd protected the Helvault in life. Anyone, no matter who, can find shelter at Thalia's cathedral, where even Avacyn fears to tread.not-Innistrad looks appealing. Black Avacyn should def be in the set wtf
>>98658597The entire echoverse should be the new way going forward, or at least until we can resolve it and revert things. There's so, so much that is just free money for them and would be so easy to design. Like what changed on theros? Are the original gods still alive on amonkhet? What about the 3 that were mutated into the scorpion, scarab, and locust gods? What happens to the gods born after the invasion? Throwing this shit away is so beyond stupid its insane to me.
>>98658396And what's more, we don't know if anyone on Amonkhet even made use of the Aetherspark for anything. The whole team grabbed it at once and we haven't seen it since. There were no instructions on how it might be used, either, and most thought it was just a pretty bauble since they can just go through the Omenpaths.
>>98658605No. Fuck off. I want Nauctis.
>>98657557Thats somewhat good but maybe too slow.Returning to hand is slow but maybe with the insect guy who can play lands from grave this thing could do some work.
Just play premodern
>>98658611So do I man, but what the fuck. I'm still pissed that we can't have both.
>>98657646This thing would be broken 10 years ago. Now it is only cool.
>Jace wankery set>Ocean blue mana wankery setWorst timeline to exist in with Magic run by biased kikes
>>98657236TWO NIGGAS PARKER
>>98658242>kike mouthpiece trying to false flag othersNice try kike, your shekel tricks won’t work on me
>>98657722This is honestly good. Maybe people could play with empower jace shit or things that put creature tokens. But then, if it gets destroyed the deck would be just bad.
>>98658436He's red blue now, he believes in consent.
>>98658232We have enough fucking dragons WE DISNT NEED MORE DRAGONS THAT DIED OFF SCREEN ANY FUCKING WAY IT WAS ALL POINTLESS REEEEEEEEE
>>98658597Sorry, Emrakul ate that reality so none of it actually matters except for fanfic fuel.
>>98658643We can never have enough dragons. Dragons are the coolest creature type. We should go back to Tarkir again so we can print 20 more dragons across all colors.
>>98657336The other god candidates failed to become a Rebis. Miquella was ultimately closer than any of the others then fucked it up when he started parting pieces of himself off and threw away St. Trina.
People keep karing Jace and the Jacetice league to Urza, but Urza was awesome. The Weatherlight crew is the proper comparison, as they were universally eyerolled.
>>98657959In the past we would have 1 set for Hexhaven 1 set for Chaos-Verse and 1 set for the showdownCard is bad.
>>98657965Honestly I like it. With the new mouse lady maybe post rotation we will have a good RW deck (if the format stops being a 4 turn format)
>>98658609The fact nothing came of it and nobody on the winning team had an immediate plan for what to do with it speaks volumes to how poorly thought out it was though.>Your plane is a complete shithole undergoing a colossal power vacuum caused by Bolas going MIA, followed by a Phyrexian invasion>Against all odds, you're offered a chance at an extremely powerful artifact>You spend time planning how you're going to win the race, investing a large amount of your limited resources into even allowing your plane to be part of the race track>But you had no plans for what to do if you actually wonThis is a textbook macguffin, where all of its value is derived solely from being told it's valuable despite it not actually doing anything meaningful.If anything it reads more like what happened when WotC introduced the Mending because planeswalkers were powerscaled too far out of control for stories to have stakes, only for the new-walkers to start still powerscaled above 99.9% of people. Introduce the spark rupture because there's too many planeswalkers and you want them to be special again, only to start making sparks easier to attain and distribute, thus undermining the whole point of the spark rupture.I know expecting shit to be thought-out is setting the bar too high for WotC where the story pretty much embodies all the "hype moments and aura" flaws, but it's really like they expect readers to be fucking goldfish with the story.
>>98658406>>98658414glad that this shit romance will finaly end. Bad writers should never be allowed near any franchise.
>>98658419You know that they would rather suck an arabic cock than respect their own country.
>>98658689yeah, you tell him xister! only lesbian romance should be featured in mtg!
WHERE IS MY CRAB WITH A JACE FACE ON IT WIZARDS?
>>98658414It feels fucked because the aberrations WERE able to win out over the Theorist and restore real Jace, the Theorist wasn’t even able to kill one person of his own volition, and Emrakul could just have been let loose on the Echoverse without the overlay starting. He wasn’t even really a villain at the end of it, there was no need for him to die to prevent things, and nothing of consequence ends up happening other than his death.It basically ends up as a very creative and messy means of committing suicide in a way that forces his friends to participate. Gideon, even if his logic was questionable, died for a reason. Tamiyo, whether or not the situation was bullshit, died as a casualty of war. Though it is ESPECIALLY bullshit that they also destroyed holo-Tamiyo for no reason instead of letting her exist as a quasi-kami character. Bolas didn’t even fucking die at the end of his villainous downfall.
>>98658697Bad romance period.Jace x Vraska almost made no sense.Chandra x NIssa made no sense.Dino Lady x Indian Robot Lady made no sense.MTG writing after Khans of Tarkir turned into a bunch of fanfics.
>>98658709They vaguely had the overlay stopping because of his death because for some reason his body was tied to it but Emrakul could've undone it anyway if he'd simply stopped actively doing the overlay but MAYBE then people might've actually died. It does feel like, with Jace insisting he HAS to die, more like he just wanted to do an atoning suicide thing and that feels REALLY messed up for the story to go "yeah you do, go die".
>>98658718>After KTKYeah really setting the bar super high there with highlights like "Karn, slayer of goblins"
I'm thinking we should kill the whole cast of current planeswalkers and then pivot to stories about cool warring knight orders on dominaria again.
>>98658684That reminds me>Create a universe with no Bolas>Amonkhet somehow turns out even worseI'm noticing a pattern here...
>>98658735Can we keep a couple of the desparked ones around.
>>98658752hmmm nyo :3
>>98658762I'll miss Sarkhan...He's just like me...
>>98658752I'm alright with keeping Nahiri because she's cute but you're gonna have to make a pretty compelling case for the rest of them.
>>98657939I think I would have done a TSP style block (since it is the 20th anniversary)>set 1Follows the initial premise of Jace trying to make things right regarding New Phyrexia. Non-compleated cards etc. However, have his subconscious keep fixing other things he wish hadn't happened. Gideon is alive, never released the Eldrazi etc, everyone is flabbergasted but happy. Basically keeping colors the same but with updated mechanics.>set 2Jace realizes that his subconscious has improved a lot of things and consciously decides to keep going. New Phyrexia wouldn't have happened if there were no Phyrexia at all. No Phyrexia means no Brother's War or Mishra dying, Mishra and Urza make Gold Karn, Gold Karn makes Argentum, Zhalfir remains in place, Elesh Norn is just a regular angel etc. So here's the Planar Chaos with colorshifted cards. Shit going wrong is foreshadowed with a few of set 1's cards having evil versions.>set 3Now we get this set, Jace has gone too far and fucked up some things unintentionally. "Wrong" versions of cards like Ice Chandra and Ghalta triceratops (call em evilshifted or some dumb shit like that). Basically get the set as it is with Jacetice League trying to stop him, again with Jace token mechanic. End consequence is he dies, but the mana he built up to remake Magic flows into the creations of his fixed universe and makes certain elements of it persist, whether good or bad (Gideon lives, Emrakul escapes, Zhalfir and Argentum remain in place, that kinda stuff).
Was there at least 1 actual colour shift?
Ow the Edge
nu-walkers have been a 20 year long mistake and the worst thing is that I feel like WOTC only agrees with this because they need to go through extra hoops to be playable as commanders
>>98658765Kiora is Kiora.
>>98658779The color pie has to meaningfully exist in order for shifts to mean anything. EDH killed the color pie years ago, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that the shifts don't really feel like shifts anymore
Multiple Avacyn mentions have me hoping that her MonoB version is a real card
>>98658718>after Khansdamn this guy pinpointed the story's downfall to Fate Reforged
>>98658827I want a Mishra and Urza card.
>>98657424Pros: More KioraCons: Art not done by Villeneuve
>>98658779Yeah I was kinda hoping for things to get shifted a lot more than they did. Most of the archetypes are just unique twists on the way things are normally done (UW gets surveil instead of scry or carddraw, RG ramps with artifacts instead of creatures, etc.) and everything else is just "What if we took this old card, but made it mechanically fit with a different color identity?" I guess the only mono-green fliers we're getting in standard are the omen dragons and the cow head.
>>98658870>What if we took this old card, but made it mechanically fit with a different color identityYeh that's kinda gay. Like the Green entomb that entombs a land instead of a creature is a cool idea, but you could have easily jsut print actual green entomb as something green could reasonably get with its creature tutors and graveyard filling.
>>98658881>search your library for a creature, reveal it, then shuffle your library and put it on top. >mill a card.
I imagine Echo Shadowmourn as a place of endless joy and mirth, the happiest place of the Multiverse™Blaring clown parades, circus performances, and free toys and gifts for everyone... in the endless halls of Shadowmourn anyone may find their happy place.In the glowing heart of Shadowmourn, the arch demon Valgavoth rejoices. The echoing laughs reach his ears, filling him with power, so Shadowmourn can extend further into the Multiverse and bring more joy to even more people.This is a plane so fun to be in that people refuse to leave, and people are willing to kill to enter.Survivors try to lure people outside the plane so they can take their place.
>>98658060>Gallia here isn’t Gallia as we know her, but she still exists in the context of a Greek mythology pastiche. And, to take a step further, the fact that this explicitly ISN’T the same Gallia as the one we know means that Gallia isn’t inexplicably out of character in the appearance in the way that Marchesa was when she decided to hang out in bars on Thunder Junction despite being a queen on Fiora.I generally agree, but all of it still feels like it's done for the sake of novelty rather than having any sort of lasting impact, and that might just be because the set feels like a bunch of distinct ideas crammed into one set with no room to breath, just like Aetherdrift.
>>98658889yeah that's a cool idea and all but what actually happened is that maria vendrell summoned and subjugated valgavoth instead of the other way around and now she kills people because..... uh..... i don't know but now winter doesn't hate people so it's better, I guess?
>>98658832Likely to appear in the precon if anywhere.
>>98658765Will, Rowen, Kiora, Nahiri and Sarkhan would he cool to have around.
>>98658890I mean narratively the Echoverse existed entirely to have a looming threat, there was no real exploration of these "what could have beens" anywhere, so it really is just to have 'cool what-ifs' and nothing else.
>>98658923Yes; that's why I hate it.
Imagine your vision being "school of rock" but you suck so bad at worldbuilding that the takeaway everyone has is that it's a school solely about yelling slurs.
>>98658810Wake me up when blue gets Thoughtseize, Llanowar Elves, Lightning Bolt, and Swords to Plowshares. I'm tired of dimir midrange being the deck that's always viable. I want it to be monoU "does everything".
Will Liliana get a second color after this? She should get a second color.
>>98658775>3 sets in a row of Amass JaceSurely this wouldn't cause riots in the streets when every UW set for a full year is spent on Jace.
The extermination of the whole echoverse in the astonishing amount of literally 1 (one, uno, einz, ichi) set must be one of the most retarded decisions JOTC have made alongside polluting all formats with UB garbage, probably another one of the purposely sabotaging attempts they have doing against their own game history to force outsiders IPs
What will happen to the Jacetice League now that it's lost its figurehead?
>>98659058Be replaced by Teferice league, an improvement in every single way :^)
Disney sabotaged the global supply chain to hurt the release of the premier UW set of 2026.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/reality-fracture-delays-in-select-regions
>>98658995Jace keyword would only show up in the third, rest would be distinctly non-Jace. Actually have some substance with two alt history sets instead of the shotgun blast they did with literally whos and every other card being EMPOWER JACE
reprint Dismember into standard
it's crazy to think wilds of eldraine is still in standard lol
>>986591975 more months
>>98659197rip beanstalk and vivi cauldron.the manlands still see a little play in control decks, I think?
>>986592072/3 of those are banned
>>98659153>Actually have some substanceNow you see the problem here is now we're inserting shit WotC never did and would never do. Would it make the set better? Yes. However that's definitely not what they would actually do even if you forced them at gunpoint to make 3 sets of this.
>>98659216that would be why I wrote "rip", yeah...
>>98659232retard
>>98659197rip screaming nemesis and cori-steel cutter
>>98659238can you explain what you're on about?what did you think I meant when I wrote "rip beanstalk and vivi cauldron"?
>>98659197rip gran-gran and monstrous rage
>>98659197damn rip badgermole cub and hopeless nightmare
>>98659217>Now you see the problem here is now we're inserting shit WotC never did and would never do.I think at various points they have done a fair job regarding set/story substance but I do agree with your latter sentiment. Its beyond their current and likely future capabilities.
>>98658311*SNIFF*https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Abuttbreathing&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
so what is the "never done before" "impossible" thing reality fracture was going to do?
>>98659491generic planeswalker token maybe?
>>98659491Common Planeswalkers sorta
I'm looking for feedback on my 'brew'. It's a backport of Montolio's vintage UW cats list and a reinterpretation of the UW cats shell that people have currently been playing in Legacy which runs the full tempo suite of Brainstorm, Ponder, FoW, Daze, Flow State; I think that's far too much and dilutes the white weenie plan, so I stripped it back to the essentials. I've been playing it on Endstep and have only lost 1 match so far, although I'm not sure of the average player skill on there. I mostly play in Paper so some card choices are tuned for my local meta, which seems to have Doomsday, Tron, Welder and Lands/Depths as staples that show up every time. The deck feels powerful and can operate on just 1 or 2 lands quite easily with the cats quickly snowballing out of control.Slots that I'm unsure about are Hydroblast and Deafening Silence. We occasionally get Storm at my LGS but I wonder if it's necessary assuming I would be on the play and have access to Daze + some 1 mana interaction. Gaddock Teeg hoses Tron completely with the only answer being Dismember and Lavinia also helps with that matchup and against Storm. I haven't had to cast Hydroblast yet online but I imagine it's relevant against Storm (Squelcher, Gamble, Burning Wish) and any red Ancient Tomb deck.I'm also unsure if I should keep the Horizon Canopy or swap it for a third Tundra.
>>98659602cringe and un-based
>>98659602I have zero experience with this archtype but I think it would be funny if you ran jegantha as a companion
>>98658060No that's wrong. Hat Set originated in Murders at Karlov Manor referring to that fact that it was a a Ravnica set but everyone was a detective. This is because it comes from the Star Trek trope called "Planet of Hats" where the planet is just same as earth except everyone wears a hat.
>>98659491That Mirrored pairs will always appear in the same pack as each other...even though there was commander products that did this year's ago but since it was a side set it doesn't count :^)
>>98659197>Standard is flourishing right now, and we are really happy with the state of things>So we will be extending Standard rotation another year for 4 years of Standard!
>>98658406Better than fell but harder to cast.
>>98659491>>98659519>>98659523It was the mirrored cards in packs. They figured out a way to have matching pairs in single boosters and that was the big thing.
>>98659718this would be good actuallyevery standard extension brings us closer to straight up remaking another format that is just standard but shorter
>>98656422Pictured in color: Vraska is about to start Jace's gender ressignment surgery into Tam, but not before Jace whispers to her "dont let them deadname me again"
>>98659766white is drawing cards and that wigger is still complaining that his color is hated by WOTC?
>>98659620Yeah I hate MH tribal too but I'd like to play white weenie outside of Premodern now and then.>>98659655I'll give it a try, but I'm not sure if it's worth the sideboard slot. Some of the RW versions run it
>>98658445i'm the father btw
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we need more marvel cards
REPRINT PUSH AND FETCH LANDS YOU COWARDS
>>98659998don't worry there's definitely more in the pipeline, we only have two stones so far
Please tell me Verge lands are getting reprinted so we don't lose them when Duskmourn rotates
>>98660041>another four (4) Marvelslop setsChrist. Why.
This card giving Echo-Ajani more dialogue than the entire story did.
>>98660050verges are worse than checklands
Is it bad that I want to see Atraxa in the set, even if it doesn't make sense? Like, we could probably see her pre-compleated for one version and her remains on the other; since Gideon shows they are still showing that he's dead
>>98660087That sort of thing'd probably be in the precon, they don't need a counterpart there. Tamiyo might show up there too, if she doesn't have a main set with a counterpart being... Her Journal I guess?
>>98660023Ban fetches in Vintage
>>98660315that would be fine by me, I play 3 different vintage decks, none of them have a single fetchland
>>98659998This game isn't dying fast enough, hopefully we get a Marvel set each year, two if year is really good.
>>98659773White is drawing cards and still gets kike’d out of standard every year, kike. Check the metas and ban list for the past 8 years you facetious kike.
SOVL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7I71KnRG2Q
>>98660102>Tamiyo might show up there tooshes mentioned in flavor text as Emperor.
>>98660315Fetches are less powerful in Vintage than in Legacy because Brainstorm is restricted.
I bet you all the cool interesting color swap cards are in the commander cards.
Good Premodern morning, Premodern General. What Premodern related things will you do today? When did you last play Premodern? When will you play Premodern next?
>>98659729Yeh bro that was revolutionary. In 2018
>>98660734I played earlier today on Endstep. Lost twice playing as Parfait against RG Sneak Attack then Psychatog and played ZI against U Skies. I'll try R Ponza control next time and Sneak Attack later, it looked cool.
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>>98660070probably for the best if that's the kind of drivel he'd have been spouting if not
>>98657747Why didn't Jace create a multiverse of bigger tits? A Multitverse, if you will.
>>98658352Depends on when you're talking to Urza. He'd certainly try it before his first trip to Phyrexia, but he'd deny it afterwards>>98658363this
>>98657340it's been dead for a couple years Jim
