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>News
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TQ: do you keep score on how many games you've won out of all games you've played in a night? why or why not?
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>>98733997
>TQ: do you keep score on how many games you've won out of all games you've played in a night? why or why not?
No. It doesn't matter. I'm just happy to be here
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>>98733997
>do you keep score on how many games you've won out of all games you've played in a night? why or why not?
You mean... remembering? Because I remember when I won that night and tend to remember for a week or two after. Other than that why the fuck would I record it?
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I'm looking for inspiration, post irl decks!
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I've heard some people use their decks as form of self-expression. Is there any archetype you would expect of 'creepy unc'? Except cute girl tribal, that would be the wrong kind of creepy.
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>>98734059
>I'm trying to keep the thread bumped and want to feel like a positive influence, validate me!
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I designed this card. AMA.
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>>98734060
Just any anime coomer proxies. They don't even have to be coomer shit to be honest. If you proxy with anime girls in any capacity it comes off as weird. And no "haha it's just a joke haha" doesn't work
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>>98734078
How many sharpies can you put in your butthole at once?
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>>98734083
idk I haven't tested because I'm not a bottom. My guess is 4.
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>>98734087
Can you test before replying, please?
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>>98734077
Mental illness post
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>>98734080
>If you proxy with anime girls in any capacity it comes off as weird.
Not really. You do know the game has tons of official anime cards, right?
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I want to build a Bracket 3 Yuriko

What would be a fair way to keep her in band and not win by like turn 5 regularly, i'm aware of the reputation
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>>98734078
OP is probably larping but if you really are the designer. My only question is what stupid ass pet card did you have in mind that works with this commander.
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>>98734106
Just build a different commander. Because no matter how much you try to convince someone "my yuriko is b3". They're always gonna assume you're angle shooting, and target you.
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>>98734112
Who would you recommend as alternative cute ninja girls as Commander? I got some sick art of my FF14 WOL as we finished DSR recently and I wanted to proxy her on top.
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>>98734090
Mental illness post
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playing my shitty zombie list the more I play it as scarab god control the less I play it as zombie.dec the better it is
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>>98734116
Yuffie, Materia Hunter. Do some goofy command beacon shenanigans steal other peoples artifacts with a splash of go wide or voltron.
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>>98734092
>if you do this thing it is weird
>erm what about not doing that thing?
The IQ in this general is fucking abysmal.
There's a difference between a card getting an official "anime" art and you proxying Atraxa to be an 11 year old girl.
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>>98734029
b4 Duel Commander is infinitely more fun than 1v1v1v1 cEDH
really want to play Mardu together with my Gruul buddy as a Two-Headed-Giant against something like Grixis and Dimir
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>>98734059
should I play Wheel of Misfortune and Dungeon Descent in this Deck?

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/marchesamadnessmonarchy/
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>>98734108
You keep fucking misusing "OP" you dumb faggot redditor.
On this site OP refers to the person who made the thread. If you're referring to another poster you just say "that anon"

GET OFF MY FUCKING SITE AND OUT MY FUCKING HOBBY
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>>98734106
Just play honest ninja tribal tempo with her, of course that includes no flipping into big cards for burn.
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>>98734060
>Is there any archetype you would expect of 'creepy unc'?
Hmmm
Mabe Scrying and making your enemy reveal cards from his Hand?
vaguely voyeuristic
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>>98734090
>>98734059
You got no decks yourself? Embarrassing
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>>98734143
would people be mad if i rule 0 errata'd her to have commander sneakjutsu so i could cast her with tax from the zone instead of relying on getting her to hand first somehow
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>>98734108
The answer I told everyone else was obviously Jester's Cap and Extract, but in truth it's a retooling of another card idea I had that turned mill effects into theft (was deemed a bit too much of an archetypal lynchpin for MBC), so I guess the "real" answer is technically Tasha's Hideous Laughter, since I think this playstyle is more engaging to play with and against than just Praetor's Grasp tribal. However the underlying play pattern I envisioned was Runick from YGO which I feel is a fair bit off unless R&D suddenly decides to print lots of exile mill for EDH (not likely because mill both sucks and there's not a lot of demand for better mill when Bruvac + mill half cards generally fill the niche).
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>>98734173
I mean I don't see why someone would be upset, buffs Ninjutsu commanders while avoiding Yuriko shittery
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>>98734106
do something like no rares https://moxfield.com/decks/ZquvirHMhka4KyoxtpmhRA
>>98734112
semi-correct
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>>98734177
Literally no one cares. This general doesn't need another micro-celeb
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>>98734158
Man I wish this was more than just a meme card, I really want to make Kamigawan Tribal

maybe there'll be an actual Kaito Wanderer teamup in Titanbreach
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>>98734194
Anon asked so he clearly cares.
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>>98734196
>Kamigawan Tribal
Rats
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>>98734208
yes but what about the samurai, the foxkin, ninjas, oni, moonfolk, dragons, myojin, and so on
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>>98734148
always play wheel in non-blue unless your commander draws 2+ a turn
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>>98734197
He was being polite because the only other reply was a shitpost
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Why isn't one Yuna affecting the other Yuna and giving it lifelink? It just says yuna, therefore it should work like this. Should say this creature instead
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>>98734144
Nah
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>>98734259
I was not.
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>>98734261
You should run the thing that turns a target creature into an enchantment so Grand Summoner gets the buff too
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>>98734282
You are incorrect.
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>>98734196
Nice illegal card. Here's mine
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>>98734328
Supposedly it's legal to play if you are the person the card was made for
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>>98734196
NEOvagina is not Kamigawa
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>>98734360
Sheldor is dead
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>>98734360
That person is clearly not in this thread
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>>98734196
Embarrassing
Blizzard made pic related in 2017 by the way
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>>98734328
You wish that your custom card could be as cool as mine.
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Why do you guys use Archidekt instead of Moxfield?
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>>98734386
I don't get it. I win every time with my card before you can play this. And you need to draw yours.
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>>98734379
It took them 3 years to notice and another 3 to make their own version. They're slow. Don't mind them
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>>98734416
We're not in upkeep yet, sweaty. Get to licking.
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>>98734412
I use moxfield but why must one use it?
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>>98734426
I won already. Forgot to mention my second commander, faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>98734434
Game hasn't begun yet, so your win condition isn't checked by SBAs. Start. Licking.
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>>98734438
So your card doesn't trigger. Nice self own.
Go back to /pol/ retards like you love to fantasize about whose tonguing their assholes, faggot
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>>98734453
Rule 103.5b, LARP LARP sahur. Can't even make custom cards right.
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I ordered a nearly entirely proxied deck from Printing Proxies. Does that make me a cool guy or a retard who wasted his money on literal worthless trash? My “pod” does not give a shit about official cards, but I can’t use it at anything more official.
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current glup shitto that I am interested in optimizing for no reason. it's a 3 mana rampant growth with set mechanic but...
>up to 2 cast triggers
>leaves graveyard
>power matters
>discards for value
>mills for value

it has a lot of little subtle things going on, I just can't seem to find the perfect commander for it. 3 mana, 4+ power commanders, like Baylen or Rhonas can turn it into an Explosive Vegetation, but I feel like there must be even better.
Teval can mill over it and cast it for 1, but that requires you to miss his attack trigger most of the time which sucks. Toph can discard it for value when she etbs, which is great, but then she's 1 power short of casting it for 1. Terra can cast it for 1 if she just happens to mill over it with her ETB but you need to get lucky. The search continues...
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>>98734386
damn mh4 looks lit
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>>98734078
why is his race clown
also thank you for this card
>>98734177
any chance of that mill -> theft concept coming in future sets?
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>>98734474
I guess these guys are okay with it since they can burst draw into it and then discard it as part of the same ability, then tap to play it for 1. But a 1 mana rampant growth is a bit less exciting when you're already on at least 5 mana
Wylie Duke draws a card when she taps to cast it, which is great. But can she consistently get it into the yard without double casting it? That would be even better. Hmmmmmm
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>>98734474
Seems easy to abuse in Raggadragga
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>>98734261
Legendary cards use a portion of their names to refer to their object rather than "this card"
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>>98734508
>Why is his race clown?
The reason I gave is because it's a Jester's Cap reference, but I prefer saying it's because it's a self-insert card (which is also why he's an evil manlet).
>Any chance mill->theft is coming in the future?
Unlikely, because that concept is preceded by the notion of people wanting more mill support. As of right now R&D would prefer to just directly support theft because a bridge card would be somewhat volatile design space (e.g. Thought Scour is now pseudo Ancestral Recall, depending on execution). Mill support in general is a bit sparse because it's complained about a lot, but it also sucks really bad (even Bruvac isn't really mill when most people build him more like a combo deck with Maddening Cacophony), so it's hard to justify finding it space in a set when it works on such a different axis. A comparison I would give is how poison counters don't really show up unless the set is focused on them because they don't do anything without a full suite of support.
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I was reading the thread yesterday and my PC BSOD'd as soon as I reached the Toski ritual post
It's likely because I had been generating things for 8+ hours and my GPU was begging for the sweet release of death, but it still made me feel uneasy
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>>98734563
The Toski images has a virus in it like the old donut man image
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98734328
In response
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>>98734538
Will there be some sort of unholy design headache of like... Mutate Vehicle in Titanbreach?
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I want to make an ulalek deck. This seems complicated.
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>>98733997
TQ: Only a little; I don't really tally as much as if a deck pulls a win on a given night I'll put it away unless someone is asking for a rematch. I tend to rotate decks anyways, but especially if I got to 'do the thing' with the deck and had it pop off, I at least make sure to give it a rest.
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>>98734613
I won already see>>98734434
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>>98733997
>do you keep score on how many games you've won out of all games you've played in a night? why or why not?
After my pod started bitching I've been quietly tracking matches and what decks tend to win in our weekly games. I also track losses though
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>>98734461
Oops meant for >>98734386
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>>98734613
NTA. I counter it with force of will. What a joke of a custom card that you made or repost.
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>>98734461
nta, don't you remember how we said that this rule is invalid during the rule zero conversation to exclude your retarded custom card? Right, you were too busy tonguing anuses of all the n-words in the alley.
You lost. He won. You can go back to sucking their dicks in the alley now, faggot
Any commanders for this feel?
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>>98734518
hmm just because you have a lot of high-power creatures that attack and then untap so they can harmonize?
or is there something else I'm missing here
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>mfw dealt with a guy putting everybody lives on Isochron Scepter with a voltac key yesterday and I was the only guy in the pod that apparently ran/drew into removal
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>>98733997
>TQ
I play with the same group of 3 other guys. Their wives play a separate card game with my wife who keeps a running ledger of wins and losses. It’s fun to talk shit about going winless.
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>TQ
I keep a note on my phone, for each game we play, of the players, the deck they played, who went first, and who won. It would be nice to also have the turn order, but that requires tracking during the game and we often forget.
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What are the build paths for Jeskai Vraska?
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>>98735295
>gaea's cradle
>still thinks blocking taps blockers
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>>98735388
>A green identity card in jeskai
Anon.
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>>98735395
oh woops didnt mean to reply was just ranting about something unrelated
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>>98733997
>TQ: do you keep score on how many games you've won out of all games you've played in a night? why or why not?
Uh, I do what
>>98734029
says, anything else is kind of asinine. I know Redditors have this insane tendency to log every single win or loss they have.

This guy I play with at the LGS sometimes asks people their commanders after a game. He logs every single game, who is commanders lose to, and then keeps tuning his decks. It's tragically autistic.
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>>98735295
My first thought is to play her like Rocco, Street Chef, with lots of pingers that do damage when artifacts come in. Academy Manufactor is insane value, obviously. The new red Craterhoof would be a natural fit as well. Maybe lean a bit into the theme with Job Select/Living Weapon Stuff?
You could go hard on the control side too, since every counterspell ramps you. Fervor or some other way to give the tokens haste would give you a lot of power.
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>>98733997
>TQ
Only if I'm on a losing streak does my brain even register I'm not winning a lot.
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Phoenix King Ozai is an archenemy commander for sure right? I feel like there's no way to smol bean yourself out of the table hard focusing you the moment he comes down
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>>98735502
People love to counter him, since he's pretty expensive. Besides that, once he's on the field, it can quickly spiral out of control, especially if you have the draw to cast your huge spells.
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>>98735502
Probably. He kind of does all the things that make you an arch enemy. He has to immediately hit someone for a lot of flying Commander damage to activate his effects. You leave a massive pool of growing mana floating that everyone can see as a warning sign before you combo out. And by the time he comes down, you either have ramped ahead of everyone or are sitting on a full hand that scares them.
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>>98735508
>People love to counter him, since he's pretty expensive
This is why I stopped running High CMC commanders in the command zone unless they have some built in cost reduction or protection against this stuff (or it's in green where CMC isn't as much of an issue), I'd rather get consistent use out of the card I always have access to and have bombs in the 99 instead.
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>t1 sol ring
>t2 dark ritual, Ozai, attack, seething song to float exactly 6 mana
bro I would cum
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>>98735553
If someone had a god hand that good on t2 I feel like I'd have to scoop just out respect for rngesus
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>>98735553
That's still not enough colored mana for Ozai
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>>98734106
I found no Oracle combo Yuriko kind of bad in B3 desu.
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>>98735553
every time i have interaction to stuff some bullshit like this the faggot has deflecting swat in hand
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>>98735632
sure it is, you just need one of your lands to be Shadowblood Ridge. so, yknow, four specific cards by t2. that's not too much to ask, is it?
(or tap the Sol Ring t1 to play a Barrels of Blasting Jelly. or more likely a 2 mv rock since those are also good at cheating out Ozai. but it's funnier with fewer cards and exact mana.)
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>>98735632
Mountain, sol ring, signet (I think anon missed it) - 5 cards left in hand

Swamp, tap it for dark rit, 3 floating B
Tap sol ring for 2 colorless
Tap mountain and signet for 2 R
Cast Ozai

Attack for firebending trigger, 4 R
Cast seething song (-3 to make +5) to float 6 mana, making him fly/indestructible
3 cards left in hand at end of turn 2
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>>98735692
Ozai is 6 mana not 7, you would be floating 7 at the end of this line
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>seething song: 2r
>dark ritual: b
>sol ring + swamp + mountain: 2br
>Ozai, the Phoenix King: "If you would lose unspent mana, that mana becomes red instead."

struggling to see why you wouldn't just cast it all first main phase. unless I'm missing something, all you need is one untapped black source, one untapped red source, the two rituals and the sol ring to end t2 with an invincible Ozai and four cards
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Speaking of Ozai, is he (and the few other "you keep your mana" commanders) the only use for this?
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>>98735790
No, if you're trying to run burn or pump spells with something like Feather, its just free mana to cast all your shit on upkeep.
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a lot of avatar cards fuck to be honest
remember that conversation about "swords to plowshares but it hits once per opponent and also it dies target" the other day? that's basically chapter 1 of Yangchen. except it actually hits 4 things rather than 3
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>>98735790
This was when Mana Burn was still a thing and you could kill yourself with it right?
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>>98735852
Yes.
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>>98735848
If an opponent exiles the saga when it passes over to them, do you still go in a circle choosing exile targets?
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>>98735874
Ability goes on the stack, prio passes
Since the ability is on the stack, even if you remove it, the ability will still resolve, so yes. There isn't a chance to interact it with that targets are being chosen, as that's all part of the ability resolving.
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>>98733997
pauper edh but good

60 card singleton
30 starting hp
any non-legendary uncommon/rare creature can be your commander
main deck commons and uncommons only
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>>98735896
rhystic study prebanned
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>>98735874
Can they even choose my stuff? It says "from among permanents your opponents control". The way I read it, the choosing player changes, but the possible targets do not.
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>>98735874
assuming I understand your question correctly, the saga isn't a valid option for the first chapter ability of the saga unless one of your opponents took control of it at instant speed while the ability was on the stack.
each of your opponents has to choose to exile a permanent that your *opponents* controls. that includes their own permanents but not yours. if you resolve this ability in a 1v1 they're forced to choose one of their own permanents.
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>>98735928
>>98735917
oh my bad yeah i thought it worked like

>Player A casts it, chooses from players B C and D
>passes to B, who chooses from A C D
>and so on

but it actually
>player A chooses from B C D
>player B chooses from B C D
>and so on
and then i guess my follow up would be, could you all choose say, player D and make them have to exile 3 permanents
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>>98735986
yeah bro. (and if B and C don't have any mv 3 or higher permanents and D still does after getting chosen three times, then he has to pick himself too, losing 4 permanents in total.)
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>>98733997
>TQ
No, EDH is a casual format were winning and losing means nothing. You'd have to be mentally unwell to play this format for anything other than a time sink and just to have fun.
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>>98734779
>>98734800
Girlfailure mad xer custom card got blown out.
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Fatebreaker
{1}{R}{G}
Minotaur Warlock

Trample, first strike

For each opponent, the first time each turn one or more abilities of permanents that player controls would trigger, those abilities don’t trigger instead.

3/3
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>>98734425
I feel like blizzard printing murder at castle nathria -> heroes of badlands before jotc printed murder at karlov manor -> outlaws of thunder junction has been memoryholed
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>>98736016
you can unfortunately choose the same thing as another player
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>>98734596
Twenty (20) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
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>>98735896
I build something like that with Orzhov Vampires
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>Pov: You're playing blue
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who is your special snowflake commander that you've never seen anyone else play IRL?
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>>98736398
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>>98736398
Oh, there are 3 really.
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>>98733997
>TQ: do you keep score on how many games you've won out of all games you've played in a night? why or why not?

Yes. And because I'm a finance bro, when I got back into magic last year I put it all on a spreadsheet and use AI to analyze the data and give me feedback. After hundred of games my win rate is exactly 50%.
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>>98736298
... oh.
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>>98736273
and Great Dark Beyond a year before Edge of Eternities
and Whispers of the Old Gods two months before Eldritch Moon
... and Kobolds and Catacombs years before the first D&D mtg set...
... and Scholomance Academy a year before Strixhaven wait wtf
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>>98736430
Do you have the Risona list?
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>>98736603
https://archidekt.com/decks/10732135/boros_world_slayer
Its just a voltron worldslayer deck. Its nothing incredible. Second commander deck I ever built. Its fun, just nothing inspiring.
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>>98736430
do you especially like boros or is it just a coincidence
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>>98736639
I like boros. I have 6 boros decks currently.
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>>98736427
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>>98736655
That's frame is way too busy
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>>98736398
567 decks on EDHREC
It's weird because it actually functions very well
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>>98736398
I haven't even seen anyone play y'shtola in real life or in mtgo and I've played a lot of games
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>>98736736
No shit. She's good, and fun to brew, but she's just really boring.
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>>98736749
So are there really any special snowflake commanders if I never even see the top 100?
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>>98736639
Everyone likes Boros. Deep down, everyone recognizes that it's the coolest color pairing.
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>>98736795
Not Gruul? Then Die!
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>>98734059
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ultrablack-suicide/

It's been a while since I've updayed this deck. Are there any new suicidal black cards?
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>>98736430
Decklist for Three Dog? I keep seeing you post about him, I'm interested.
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Is anyone else getting a 403 forbidden error message when trying to open the catalog?
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>>98736655
>shuko
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surprised they haven't done yet shit like "this creature's activated abilities count as triggered" or similar
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>>98736847
Finally back. Glowies attempting to sabotage hype for Reality Fracture
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Mono white counter spell
WW
Instant
Exile target spell. It's controller gains life equal to twice it's mana value.
Thots?
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>>98736876
no
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>>98736843
https://archidekt.com/decks/12747364/three_dawg_i_hate_myself
If you want to build him. Recommend printing out 10 or more of every enchantment because tracking with him is a nightmare otherwise. (and still kinda is.)
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>>98735790
Anon literally just have any outlet.
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>>98736876
This is already stronger than base Counterspell which itself is a card never returning to Standard because of how much people bitch about it.
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>>98736843
>>98736887
sadly three dog just sucks
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>>98735790
there are some cards that pass mana through steps / stages.
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>>98737229
He's fine as a 3 or a 2. He's not that fast no, but the real issue is just how awful he is to track in paper.
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>>98737235
no, three dog is below precon tier
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>>98735790
This one is my favorite.
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So many decks now just hit 8+ mana on turn 3 and there's no <5 mana wipe that will hit all of them, some are spamming rocks, some are spamming rampant growths, some mana dorks that tap for a bajillion. It's frustrating. God forbid any of them have blue because they will counter any attempt to stop them. 40 health is a problem.
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>>98737248
and if you play a fast deck that punishes doing nothing for 4 turns you're the bad guy
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>>98737253
There's practically no deck that's going to punish them fast enough unless it's turbo combo.
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>>98737248
Have you considered doing something in those first 3 turns instead of going land-pass?
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>>98737236
I have a three dog deck. I have played it against precons as well as play a fair amount of recent precons, and this isn't the case, but I think we are at an impasse here
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>>98736398
No one other than me is a bad enough dude to hit myself in the dick with a hammer
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>>98734078
Know anybody working on a fucking monk lord
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>>98737256
>he thinks aggro doesn't exist
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>>98737248
I know the feeling. I was playing against some cEDH guys and I'd have three lands while they've get 10 permanents on the field.

Still, that meant they were mostly just fucking around with each others' stuff. In that situation, whoever tried to pull ahead got stomped by someone else, who then got stomped by someone else, who then got stomped by someone else, who ultimately ended up losing to me because I was just holding onto a hand that would let me burn what little life they had remaining after all was said and done.
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>>98737297
No but ironically one of my proposed designs (scrapped) was a monk with protection from equipment and auras.
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>>98737248
I'm so tired of my friend making "low power" decks and missing the point that one of the things that will keep a decks "low power" is not having retarded ramp packages.
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>>98736212
He blew you the fuck out, go back to tonguing ansuses , fag. Nice custom card, faggot
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It Is What It Is {W}{W}
Instant - Arcane
This spell can't be countered
As an additional cost to cast this spell, exile all permanents you control, your hand, your library, and your graveyard.
Counter target spell.
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>>98737423
Still too strong. Make it an enchantment creature with 0/1 stats that costs 3 mana and then you can sacrifice it while paying WW.
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>>98737487
the game would unironically be 94% better if every instant was an enchantment you had to play at sorcery speed and could later sac as an instant
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>>98737526
Sir you are describing Yugioh trap cards except face up
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>>98737526
That's why Glen Elendra is the goat.
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>>98737563
get with the times old man everythings a creature now
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>>98737351
You were doing gods work. Amituofo.
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>>98737526
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>>98737366
Just got back from licking, fag? Don't make me reveal it again.
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>>98734078
Prove it fagballs
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I think excessive mana ramp SUCKS
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Might is Right {G}{G}{G}{G}
Instant
Counter target noncreature spell unless its controller pays {3}.
If you control a creature with the greatest power among creatures on the battlefield, instead counter target noncreature spell.
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Interrupt was a mistake.
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>>98737611
Define excessive.
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>>98734059
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>>98736398
I just think he's neat
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Decided to dip out early from a shitty pod tonight and go to the rub & tug instead. I think I made the right choice rather than staying and having to play 2 blue control decks.
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>>98737667
I'm seeing niggas running 10-15 cards in the deck of the same fucking ramp rocks and fetches as all their other decks. I find that leads to a lot of same feeling matches. Pass go for a few turns if you're midrange just feels healthier all around
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>>98734059
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>>98736398
I run Sliver Overlord because I don't own a The First Sliver or Sliver Queen. Also because I have a sentimental attachment to him, but he's really not a great commander.
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>>98737751
Maybe if they "sign-post" banned Sol Ring people would run less of the same staples.
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>>98737775
No they wouldn't. They'd just run the next "best thing"
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>>98737781
Have you considered playing a real format like pauper if you want to see some different card pools? Commander is a joke format made for angsty teens anyways.
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>>98737791
>Real format
>Pauper
Full retard.
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>>98737775
sign post ban is the most retarded concept ever
>we banned one card that means you should accept on vibes that other cards that do the same thing are also banned maybe just depends on how you feel about it I guess man
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>>98737791
>I deliberately entered a thread full of things I don't like and now I'm mad
>How could this be happening to me?
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>>98737806
But... I like both commander and pauper?
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>>98737791
Isn't the stereotype that EDH is for theater kid millennials who are just here to rip bongs and play a shitty mtg-themed board game, too casul to hack it in the cool duelist formats?
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>>98737611
there's a solution
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>>98737813
You tell me.
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>>98737791
this has been debunked

>>98737813
no its play good cards you like from all years that dont rotate out every other year
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>>98737775
Kinda doubt it, it's in so many pre con decks already it just isn't feasible honestly. I accept the genie is out of the bottle when it comes to egregious ramp and my moaning about it won't do anything
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>>98737798
Me listening to retards say the Sol Ring signpost ban = Mana Geode ban
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>>98736398
I've yet to see anyone else play Ivora. Online or in person. I've had a lot of fun with her.
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>>98736655
this is why custom card "designers" should all be banned
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>>98736655
Blud you're not subtle for putting the Shuko/Greaves instakill in there.
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get (b)ent
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>commander has {2} in casting cost
>play sol ring
>win game
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People are still whining about sol ring?
Really?
About as silly as whining that harlots are legally allowed to show ankle.
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>>98737964
back to /pol/, shit-stirrer
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Pulled this git out of my box. Who should i build for him? Haven't found anything that really screams out to me besides chiss-goria, so i'd appreciate some recs. Hard mode, can't be a regular humanoid creature like a goblin or mermaid, it should be some kind of monster or construct
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>>98737954
>commander has {g} in casting cost
>play elf
>win game
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>>98734078
Disappointing design. Lower brackets you'll get hated out of the game because you both want to pseudo mill and steal cards, but at the same time it's not necessarily even that good with higher average cmc's and worse cards to steal. At higher brackets it's a grixis commander that gains you value and has a unique I win button in Tasha's Hideous Laughter. I'm sure it will be at least fringe for cedh.
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>>98737893
Fugly art, which ironically makes her a better mtg vampire than all the usual innistrad/ixilan Twilight rejects.
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>>98737975
Anim Pakal, Boros Pia, literally an other commander that makes some kind of artifact/artifact creature in red.
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>>98737975
My first thought is making a disgusting artifact deck that does nothing but drop rocks and bombs.
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>>98737975
>artifact creature tokens that can pay for big things
>blue for treasure mage / fabricate / etc
Seems very natural.
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>>98738023
AmeriVraska is cool
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>>98737913
I just did this against my buddy. It feels silly but also fuck you counter my lands faggot.
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>>98737964
Sol Ring sucks
cEDH is based on how much money you have, not skill
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>>98737893
what's that Deck look like?
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Hell Yeah
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>>98738520
My wizza.
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Surprised we didn't see an Echoverse of this guy. Does this fit?
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>>98738479
99% of bracket 5 players proxy you moron
yea let me spend over 10k on a deck that I can't take anywhere because of the risk of it getting lost/stolen
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>>98738479
arent most cedh events proxy-friendly? i dont many magic players regularly walk around with 5k++ $$$ cardboard in their pockets
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>>98738533
already playing a proxy Damnation
just proxying a Sol Ring, Expedition Map, Wastelands, Bloodstained Mire, Strip Mine etc. just doesn't feel right
part of collecting is owning the things
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>>98738532
Honestly 9/10 for "can't be a Coward," excellent flavor. I think I'd go with Warrior over Knight for the iconic "Cowards can't block Warriors" reference. I think I'd swap his P/T too, though admittedly a 1/2 is not a very exciting stat line.
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>>98738509
Here's my list. The card you posted is the kind of thing I keep hoping we would go back to Innistrad properly soon for. I want more mono red discard vampires.

https://moxfield.com/decks/hB4FdXIUz0OKO-55Ov84fg
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>>98738574
give me 6 Mana Boros Madness Vampires for this bitch: >>98734148
Or something like Swords to Plowshares or Lightning Helix with Madness, literally anything
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>>98738574
mono-red is so KINO
Madness is way too much fun
>Gamble
I respect that - no Fiery Temper though?
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very nice
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>>98738666
It is a lot of fun. Digging through the deck while making Ivora bigger and more of a threat the way all the red discard has does is great. I like Firey Temper but it's the kind of thing I'd want if there were more madness cards and payoffs. It's definitely on theme but I'm not entirely committing to madness yet. I'm holding out for more madness stuff that will play well together and be on theme for her. Once, hopefully soon, we get more I'll probably rework the list to be more around the mechanic.
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>>98736398
None because I like to have fun playing the game and want my player group to have a fun challenge. There's too many quirkchungus redditfags out there using MtG as their personality shortcut trying to get claps and larp as bigbrained for using some stupid gimmick/hipster commander.
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>>98736795
>everybody likes Boros
Third worst color pairing, after Azorius and Selesnya. White sucks.
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This dude seems pretty decent but I have never seen him in a real life game of magic the gathering.
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>>98738706
I will make One with Nothing + Bloodhall Priest work, witness me
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worst card MY ASS
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>>98738782
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Why did they make him suck so hard? would making the first ability +2 really have been too much?
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>>98738907
Needs a lot of build around to not be a dud, i can see him doing incredible things in the right deck but he is very niche.
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If my wife's card said "whenever leaves the battlefield" instead of "put into graveyard" she'd be top 5 behind the goth cat.
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>>98739027
Because they need you pulling boosters for the goatse one.
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>>98738532
maybe when tam aka tranny jace rewrites the multiverse again
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>>98739070
Obsessed
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I crave 0 Madness
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>>98739027
Isn't there some kind of large proliferating nigger you can flip into with his polymorph?
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>>98739027
Why doesn't he have Green?
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>>98739073
>assuming people like trannies in the first place
anyways here's the tranny operation being put on a card, a special 'spark transfer' complete with tam (who already thinks and acts like jace) also getting jace's memories
this had never happened with karn and venser or at any previous time in mtg's lore by the way
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>>98739138
I'm just trying to ignore pretty much everything after Eldritch Moon, this is too fucking cringe
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>>98739132
because green ultimately can do no moral wrong according to wotc that's why they retconned nissa
that's why all mtg baddies are nongreen and the worst green will ever do is be a wild animal that wants everything to be wild animals too
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except for the white Ixalan Conquistadors
very subtle as always
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>>98739138
this one looks more like a tranny operation to me tbqhwy
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>>98739197
jace being hexhaven headmaster rubberstamped that
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>>98739181
I think we could have a green environmental terrorist villain at some point.
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>>98739138
>expecting wotc writing to be coherent and logical
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>>98739138
>being afraid of trans planeswalkers in multiverse where just arriving to a plane can turn you into a furry
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>>98739290
I wonder how someone like Bolas would do if he went to bloomburrow

Would he just become a big lizard?
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>>98739290
that's exactly why nobody takes mtg lore seriously and why UB was implemented in the first place
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>>98739297
A dragon already turned into a hawk, no reason why Bolas wouldn't be a bird too.
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>>98739206
rubberstamped it?
in one depiction, he's conducting the procedure himself.
and one of his alter egos is wearing a plague doctor mask for NO REASON, what a poseur this guy was
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>>98739351
This is a good point but i really wish you would have said "there's no reason bolas wouldn't have been a hawk too" so it sounds like hawk tuah
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Is she simic or mono blue as a commander?
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>>98739492
She has Simic color identity.
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>>98739132
Everything he's doing is unnatural, green wouldnt make sense
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Torn on which direction to take this deck via edits. Sometimes it feels like it's in desperate need of more answers. But then it hits one of its artifacts -> mana outlets (Urza or Ironheart) and feels extremely explosive. I'm looking to move away from the polymorph subtheme, but even cutting the outlier cards there's so few flex slots. The card draw outlets are just too necessary to cut, the tutors too valuable. Godo and Gilgamesh remain god-tier even if you're hard-casting them. Same with Iron Man and Ironheart. Slapping down a 4-mana Starwinder feels quite good as well.

Thinking about greedily cutting Cyclonic Rift for a Chrome Mox, which in turn will take the place of a land, just to add some acceleration to the deck. In so doing Cyclonic Rift would become Soul Immolation, a pseudo wincon if I ever see Excalibur on my commander or a souped-up Godo/Gilgamesh.

Also eyeing Dain Ironfoot from The Hobbit. Crazy effect in the deck for a 15-cent card. But damn there's just so many "cute" cards that don't equate to playing a responsible game.
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>>98739442
>ready for your 12th booster, planeswalker-anon?
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>>98739680
I'm also considering ninjutsu as a subtheme. My friend has a Higure ($20 lol) he can lend me, and there's some legitimately oppressive ninjas you can swap in via evasion. Mistblade Shinobi with flying early can be very annoying. Mist-Syndicate Ninja can get out of hand rapidly.
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>>98739697
>Mist-Syndicate Ninja can get out of hand rapidly.
Can it though? The copies don't have evasion. It's just Spawnwrithe in a better color.
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>>98739805
Sure, but the first one being evasive means you already have two. One of your living weapons you just ninjutusu'd out of is free real estate to slap on next turn, and the deck runs upwards of 20 equipment so the odds of having more is high. Then once 2 is 4 it rapidly becomes "have a board wipe or lose" territory regardless of blocks.
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>>98738980
Shine on you crazy diamond.
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>>98738545
Thanks, I'll make the changes.

Dyou think this reads like a proper Echoverse shifted Teysa?
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>>98739853
I like the stuff you're making anon. Any interest in an evil Narset?
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>>98739680
>polymorph
Thoughts on precon Jace?
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>>98739882
Sure, I can try brewing one up. Would she be like Golgari?
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>>98739132
Because his grand plan is to splice the multiverse so he'd be okay with it, which is very against Greens "it is what it is" fate shittery. And the reason Jace has red is because JotC needed a token 4 colour
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Losing my shit only finding out now that Phyrexia has their own fat socal bitch
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>>98739894
He's waaaay way way too free. Gonna dread seeing him at any table. Putting polymorph itself into the command zone as a loyalty ability AND giving him 4 colors is crazy from a power level perspective. The deck's strategy becomes as effortless as it is blatantly telegraphed. You can assemble any number of weird combos with him that consist of generate token + cast commander for close to a deterministic win.

I assembled this in b3 a while back, and even that felt like too much and I had to take it apart. I'd imagine just "having it" all the time will make for ultra-swingy games. You either hold up removal to keep the Jace from polymorphing or lose.
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>>98740177
I just noticed that Niv-Mizzet draws a card whenever when anyone plays an instant or sorcery and not just niv's controller. That thing is frankly a worthwhile reanimator target.
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>>98740287
When he's not being combo slop he's very adequate, yeah.
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>>98740136
compleat at any size
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>>98739927
>>98739882
not too sure about this one, tried to get her free spell thing but inverting it to creatures
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>>98738532
Thanks anon this is going in my Odric deck now.
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>>98740413
You know there's a keyward for her first ability
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If I want to play the most degenerate mono green land fall deck ever, who should I be running as my commander? I know Tifa exists, but she just kinda dies after killing one opponent. Would someone like Toph or Bristly Bill work?
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>>98740494
Just go to a glory hole during pride if you want to be such a rampant homosexual.
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Which deck should I build next?
Golbez seems like a more grindy deck whereas 2099 can have some more impactful turns
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>>98740413
Nice work anon. Gonna get this printed.
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>>98740494
lumra and it's not even close
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>>98740505
I would not build either of those because UB cards look gross and unappealing but if you were to make me choose at gunpoint I'd say Golbez because artifacts are the most powerful and fun card type.
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>>98740522
He's definitely one I considered. What makes him better than someone like Azusa?
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>>98740537
Well, you can always proxy them to universes-within.
I'll have to look into some cool artifact shenanigans for Golbez.
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>>98740537
>Don't do what you want to do, because you need to appeal to me
Nigga, kill yourself you narcissistic fuckwit
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>>98740544
with lumra you have a commander that enables ldegen combos where you loop lumra's etb

of course if you don't want combos then something like azusa and bill would be better I guess
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>>98734092
>>98734267
t. coomer proxy gooner
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>>98740546
If you're feeling saucy be sure to add this terrible card, it's one of my favorites.
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>>98740616
funny with artifact lands
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Someone please bake a new thread. I have something smart and witty to say, and I don't want to waste it at the end of the thread.
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>>98740746
Well I'm not baking the new thread until someone says something smart and witty. This thread has been SHIT.
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>>98740746
We're only just past 300 posts, if it's that witty then you have the chance to get 50 or perhaps more yous
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>>98740746
You'll probably want to wait an extra thread because I have something better to post at the start of the next one. Trust me.
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I went to a TCG tradeshow that was being held in my city. I was advertised as a generic TCG event, no specific game was mentioned. I go there, it is packed, but it is 99.9% PokemonTCG. Of the 0.1% that wasn't PokemonTCG, I saw Riftbound, Yugioh, and Lorcana. I didn't see a single Magic card at the event.

Is it that Magic isn't popular, or that Magic isn't popular with the sort of demographic that is interested in the collecting and arbitrage / scalping portion of the hobby? Should Magic feel intimidated by PokemonTCGs success, or are Magic & PokemonTCG filling two different niches?
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>>98739894
>>98740177
Unless you're running proliferate you'd be surprised just how bad polymorph as a planeswalker ability is. In play testing, I get Jace down early with ramp, but then I tick him down, get one of the garbage legendaries in the precon (sure this can be avoided by rebuilding the deck from scratch) and then he isn't going to polymorph again for multiple rotations.

Nissa is unironically much better in the command zone, the problem is ramping into her without green. But I think with some Rituals and treasure generation she'd be more viable, and then you absolutely abuse the fuck out of landfall. Notably her ability triggers each turn while a planeswalker is only on your turn.
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>>98740807
In my experience Magic seems to sell better person to person, someone brings their binder to FNM and people look through and buy shit.
People don't tend to horde cards to make a profit on them in the same way as pokemon.
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>>98737248
Just keep boardwiping. Played
https://manabox.app/decks/AZ_m3EiVezi26vxWfVYHsg
Against eldrazi, Animar (that also happened to have Eldrazi), Inspirit artifact spam, and Imaryll elves, it's won because I just kept boardwiping and stealing their stuff.
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>>98740505
2099 looks like he could have some cool scaling big damage end steps and could reasonably go for commander damage himself along with it, which is something I always like having the option of in commanders. I'd go with him.
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went to the prerelease and this was the only mythic I pulled from the six packs
give me spicy lifegain cards PLEASE! soul sisters is ok but kinda boring
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>>98740950
>soul sisters is ok but kinda boring
Then consider a soul brother.
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>>98740957
>soul brother
aight
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>>98740553
Based
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>>98740494
Tifa has way more sustain than people think but most players that build her hyper focus on the t3/4 kill meme.
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>>98740950
>spicy
I prefer trying to make odd and jank lifegain cards work
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>>98740966
This weird cat man from mirrodin is pretty good what with all the artifact tokens floating around these days. Lifegift works prety well and Sun Droplet is also good because people love to hit the lifegain player which gives you a trigger for Vigorbloom every upkeep. Pristine Talisman is probably terrible but I'd run it.
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>>98740950
GW Lifegain is one of the most oversupported decks in the game brah. The entire archetype is spicy tech just slap together a life gain goodstuff pile.
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>>98736639
we do like boros, built my first boros commander and managed to get into 3rd place the other day.
My deck is honestly nothing special and even inferior to other lists since i have cheap cards, but still has a solid gameplan.
Generate tokens, protect creatures and hit hard.
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>>98740950
How aggro is your pod?
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>>98740828
The precon just sucks, the commander himself is insane. It having unplayable shit is sort of besides the point.
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>>98740950
The new Miku deck loves that dude. Just slap him into the 99 and enjoy the free mana.
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>>98739138
so now that the last straight white male character in this shitty story is dead, who will be the new baddie?
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>>98741107
Gay Bolas escaped, so he's available. Emrakul is also free, but who the hell knows if she's actually evil.
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>>98741107
The baddies from now on will be unmemorable disneyslop morally grey characters with Team Rocket tier plans like kidnapping Loot or stealing aethersparks to resurrect their same sex lover in between going go karting and playing basketball with the Loot squad.
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>>98741138
>Gay Bolas
man, wtf is WotC doing with their own story? I know the story was not great but it was already bad that we had shitty sets like the ravnica detectives, a set from 80s pop culture and the cowboys with no guns set.
>Emrakul
afaik, it was revealed eldrazis are just eaters of planes going wild/bananas. Basically the trashmen of the multiverse.
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>>98741167
Sorin and Nahiri are still out there, right? Maybe they can fuck up another plane with their next catfight
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>>98741195
Emmie could've just been saying shit to Tam
They're out in the Edge too and had beef with the Fromori, there's more to them than just cleaning up the messes of dead/dying planes
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>>98741196
Nahiri isn't a walker anymore. Don't know about sorin
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>>98741231
>could have gotten space eldrazi
>all we got was the dabbing dude
I'm still mad
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>>98741268
>DUDE, SLIVERS ARE COMING BACK
>1 card
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>>98741290
Them too. Space slivers would have been neat. At least the sliver card is really good for them.
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>>98739027
He's a 5 mana polymorph sorcery, he's fine. In most scenarios he's probably not worth killing also. If he gets cast at 5 mana, and you leave him be, it will be 3 turns before he can polymorph again. If you kill him, it will likely be 2 turns. Not worth putting resources into letting them polymorph sooner.
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>>98741062
Again, he's really not unless you're building proliferate.
He ticks down -3 and ticks up +1. So even if you're okay with him dying to 0 loyalty, he takes there's 2 full rotations before he ticks down a 2nd time.
And someone Lightning Bolts him? Oopsie, he's either dead or you're waiting 3 more rotations.

Nissa is objectively the stronger commander but she's costed so heavily it makes it questionable whether she's worth putting in the command zone
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>>98740601
I don't coomer proxy. I proxy with my Digital circus shit.
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>>98741423
Which is unironically worse
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>>98741423
I have not watched it but it looks like some gay shit that people who regularly use the word fandom would like so I'm gonna call you a retard for this one.
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>>98741396
You only need the one activation to value out anon. Why the fuck do you need to polymorph TWICE?
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>>98741469
>You only need the one activation to value out anon.
So play literally anything that will let you tutor a creature straight to the battlefield. There are many.
>Why the fuck do you need to polymorph TWICE?
Because it's polymorph and what you hit off your library wasn't right for the situation or got removed because it was too good
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>>98741426
Nah. At least that one has real art.
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>>98741443
>I have not watched it but it looks like some gay shit that people who regularly use the word fandom would like
I mean... Not wrong.
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>>98741167
>morally grey characters
Morally grey characters aren't villains or baddies no matter how much media wants them to be.
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>>98741479
The things you polymorph into should be getting immediate value, or you should be deploying them with counter backup (you're in blue).
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>check the new starter commanders
>blue, for some reason is more expensive than the white one
what the fuck?
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>>98741697
Blue is the most powerful color so it makes perfect sense when you think about it.
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>>98741044
if it wasn't a once per turn trigger this would be insane lol
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>>98741479
You don't put cards that are situationally good to polymorph into in the deck. The precon is horrible about it, but it is also insanely easy to fix. If you want to lean into tokens, Elesh Norn Grand Centobite is a good hit in basically any situation you could be polymorphing in. If you don't want a token focus, there are even more options. Astral Dragon and Nicol Bolas Dragon God are both at absolute worst a free respin. Nicol Bolas God-Pharaoh at worst exiles 2 cards from each opponents hand before he can get killed.
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How do you store your decks /tg/? I have mine in double sleeves but it has to go into two deck boxes and I would like to reduce that to one. I've had a lot of deckboxes that reek after buying them so something that's not stinky would be good.
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>>98741753
Double sleeved and in their own color coded Ultra Pro Cubes. I absolutely love those things. They're only $13 and are literally indestructible. They also seamlessly fit into those Stanley tool organizers too, so you can carry like 10 cubes at a time.
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trigger goes on the stack your response?
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>>98741793
I don't know what trigger you are talking about but I'll just cast Stifle because I hate you.
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>>98741479
>play jace on 6 mana
>hold up an offer you can't refuse / flusterstorm / intervene / miscast / spell pierce / stubborn denial / turn aside / cloudshift / ephemerate / essence flux / any other protection spell
Wow that really is hard to set up.
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>>98741798
>playing 7 mana to polymorph
AHAHAHAAAAA
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>>98741781
>stanley tool organizers
Fatmax Deep Pro?
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Do anons realize the thing that makes polymorph good is that it's supposed to cost much less than the creature you're polymorphing into? Even assuming you're always hitting something like an Emrakul that has reasonably sturdy protection, this whole line starts with 5 mana as a sorcery that sacrifices for targeted effect rather than for cost (or nontargeted effect). It genuinely just comes down to "counter the 5-mana obvious combo chokepoint or blow up the token they targeted." Creature removal is abundant in every color. Surely you can hold up 1 mana to explode a 1/1 white Soldier creature token.
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>>98741801
Are you illiterate, retarded, or both?
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>>98741866
People famously can't be bothered to pay for Rhystic Study. Commander players just want to set up their own bullshit.
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>>98741956
You know what? Fair enough. When most people barely even know what their own deck is supposed to be doing, I can see why most people think their opponents are playing black boxes.
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>>98741956
>>98742007
Sorta related, but I've had multiple instances of a 1/1 Esper Sentinel just sitting there drawing cards for me because people wouldn't pay the 1 AND they wouldn't kill it.
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>>98741713
gameplay, the blue started precon is kinda shit compared to the rest.
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>>98742106
Put Emry in the command zone
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>>98742198
How about a put my dick in your ass
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>>98742266
Don't threaten me with a good time. :3
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>>98739132
Because greenfags are the most annoying posters in this general.
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>>98739290
Key difference being that after Jace left Bloomburrow he didn't tell everyone "yip yip yip I'm a fox!" and magically killincarnate himself as one.
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there I fixed her
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>>98742407
>>98742407
>>98742407
New thread
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>>98741231
>Emmie could've just been saying shit to Tam
It really is kinda funny that the story remembers Eldritch Moon happened, but everyone's so nonchalant about it, and we're just supposed to believe Emrakul was being honest even though none of her criteria for why they eat worlds matches up with why she was on Innistrad in the first place.
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>>98742681
Didn't she end up on Innistrad because Nahiri tricked her into being there



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