Nagash Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98759169>Threads policy:No AI, nor AI discussion>Thread Question:What's the origin of the meme phrase "such is the power of nagash"?
>Perry manlet killed itHow did he do it?
I’m debating selling my army to start up a StarCraft scene. It looks like a genuinely more fun game. I’m not sure if it has any narrative elements, then again tow isnt a very narrative game to begin with.
>>98778330Do you like the starcraft aesthetic and setting? Also what army are you selling?
>>98778177https://youtu.be/0aFPLPweLDg?t=5124
>>98778310>TQPancreasnowork is where I heard it, on YouTube
>>98778438but it most of existed before that, probably in some AoS books
>>98778374is there ANY end times scenario that doesn't suck balls from beginning to end?
Sorry for posting this one again, still quite pleased with it. I've got the dude on horse from the box still, should I go with another god or should I keep going with the Nurgle theme? Any suggestions for what I could do with the pony to make it a bit more horrific?
>>98778701Ate you gonna make a mono god army, if so then why not continue with Nurgle?If not then go with rule of cool and/or whatever fluff you have created for your dudes.
>>98778714Not sure whether I can be arsed to do a whole army, or whether I just want to paint a few more detailed minis
>>98778310Can someone help me take Malekith seriously?He is an edgy-looking sorcerer king (which I love), and was legendary among his people, even the dwarves liked him.But his mom is one of his minions, and said mother is the greatest slut in the entire setting, slowly selling their people to Slaanesh. Making him really look like a tool.I know we are trying to go for an Arthurian theme, but it's just too much.
>>98778749But Malekith was always a loser bitch boy who would be nothing without his manipulative bitch mommy holding his hand the whole time.
Repostan my reply to the wolves anon because last thread was ditched before my reply>>98777170 #Ah, I missed some of your upgrades, you didn't have as many points leftover.The ring is good, at times maybe too good for friendly games of BM and will probably result in an arms race where it'll become an auto include for most players around you.This list is closer to what I'd probably run.You could remove one Berserker regiment if you really want to go back to the 2x2 wolf units and sprinkle some toys on the rest of your guys. You could also swap both berserker units for a block of 15 marauders with shield and fortitude, it all depends on whether you prefer msu offensive potential or a defensive block with some combat res.I don't suggest full command at this level because you often don't really benefit from it, just take what you really need.Awoo squad [650 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Warriors of Chaos, Wolves of the Sea, Battle MarchExalted Sorcerer, Light armour, Mark of Chaos [Mark of Chaos Undivided], Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], General, Chaos Steed, Favour of the Gods, Daemonology - 1115 Chaos Warhounds, Claws and fangs (Hand weapons), Vanguard - 355 Chaos Warhounds, Claws and fangs (Hand weapons) - 306 Marauder Tribe Berserkers, Flails, Light armour, Ambushers, Unnatural Fortitude - 726 Marauder Tribe Berserkers, Flails, Light armour, Ambushers, Unnatural Fortitude - 725 Marauder Horsemen, Flails, Light armour, Shields, Throwing axes, Chaotic Cult [None], Ambushers, Formation [Open Order], Unnatural Fortitude - 853 Skin Wolves, Hand weapons (Claws and fangs) - 1355 Marauder Tribe Huscarls, Flails, Light armour, Javelins, Mark of Chaos [Mark of Chaos Undivided], Unnatural Fortitude - 110
>>98778749First of all you have to throw away the memes, secondly you have to throw away the notions of family humans have, they just don't apply in the same way to elves that are 10000 years old.Malekith is the king of the dark elves and nominally morathi is underneath him in the hierarchy, but in practical terms there's an interplay between asymmetrical equals: malekith is more powerful and is more important, but morathi knows more and is too useful to discard or limit in any way, and she does have an awful lot of informal influence amongst dark elves, having centralised a lot if not the entirety of the cult of khaine and its assassins and the sorceresses of the entire race, which is perhaps more than the amount of influence malekith has got overtly since his is a nominal title to command over quasi-independent noble families who are as likely to betray one another or distance themselves from one another at the first opportunity as they are to do so with malekith the moment he stops being the advantageous partnership, or someone capable of having them assassinated at the first sign of betrayal.Morathi is also not a slut in the slaaneshi way and is not selling elvenkind to slaanesh, she is playing with fire, and she is winning each and every bet*, both for personal gain and because she genuinely believes hers is the one way for elves to come out on top, she's not selfless, but she's not selfish either, she does want elves to prosper and she does want them to defeat chaos, and in the meanwhile since that's not possible the route is to dominate it and use it (but unlike with all the other chaosfags claiming to do the same, dark elves have been doing this successfully for a long while). She is hedonistic and rules the cults of pleasures, but it's mostly a way to gather power by taking advantage of disposable fools and only giving up things of little value while she stays untouchable herself.*(except the last one at the very end, but even then not quite either)
>>98778749>MalekithYou mean Malerion, right?
so what are the chances the TK box goes up for preorder next week? Seems like Old World has been going up early after previews.
>>98779003There are some reasonable chance. We'll just have to wait a couple of hours.
>>98778749>lives in his father's shadow>not even his father's favorite son>his mom only sees him as a tool to get back at the people who said she wasn't good enough for Aenarion
>>98773207>>98773227>>98773279>>98773314Is there some source which sum up what Priestley's own original storyline involved ? In this continuity Archaon didn't exist and played no role, right ?
>>98779015>>98779003these posts aged poorly :(
do you think that the barrow kingdom army of infamy will allow aos deathrattle models to be used in tow ? now that gw is far less anal about models crossing games (they allowed the new custodes and daemons to be used in both hh and 40k), it's a real possibility
>>98779089>>98778374
Finally finished the pegasi.
>>98779118Side view.If they're getting replaced soonish I'm tempted to get another box and also kotr just in case.
>>98779097>>Warhammer paints shitehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/13drg5hr/sunday-preview-warhammer-tone-pro/Who even cares for this?
>>98779118>>98779124Gorgeous, and yeah the rumor is Pegasi and KOTR refresh after TKs
>>98779100Don't get your hopes up, despite it sharing a similar name and origin to the really fluffy 6th edition list, this will be a bare minimum skeletons, chariots and horsemen list with no access to anything from the vamp counts range. As for the AoSlop models, there's nothing keeping you from using them as TK skeletons, or even better, playing VC like the Lord intended.
>>98779180The paint themselves aren't bad and Citadel paints are still popular for some reason>a miniatures reveal tomorrow, and news on your favourite Warhammer video games.Wonder what model and games are getting shown off tomorrow
>>98779118>>98779124Good on you for painting them, anon, they look ok!
>>98779205I’m considering one or two of them for skin tones. Admittedly though I haven’t looked at options from other ranges yet so I might not even wind up getting the new pots
>>98779180People that can paint and understand colour theory, so none of this thread's regulars.
>>98779219I don’t really see any point for skin tones. We already have good skin tones available. I’m potentially just looking at it for yellows and the white
>>98779245>He's ok with a single skin tone for his entire armyWhat, anon, don't you like diversity?
>>98779245>we already have…100% these are replacing the main line in like 2yr. It’s primaris paints
>>98779180the dogshit pots just completes this latest flop. Really hope they don't drop everything a week before christmas because the 40k army deals are no longer selling.
>>98779106thanks mate, didn't saw the original answer, sorry for the repost
>>98779231It's funny you say that because people who can understand color theory and can paint wouldn't use the same color for lights and shadows. This is made for retarded GW paypigs.
>>98779482>the same color for lights and shadowsAt least some of the pentads do have a shift in hue, not just brightness and saturation. It's subtle though, like they wouldn't trust their customers to understand an obviously different shadow and highlight hue.
Would any of the empire miniatures for their commanders be able to be built similar to this?
>>98779219I think the best immediate benefit of them is the base coat coverage. Maybe I just don’t have the right brand, but I’ve tested a lot of skin tones and ivories painting Ogres and Skeletons and I’ve yet to find one that’s needed more coats for the base color. If the paints that haven’t got out for demoing cover just as well then I think I must pay pig.
I'm trying to figure out what heraldry I want on my brets.Also screw you guys slop is good to figuring out if the scheme actually looks good on the mode.s
>>98779865Is this the famed bret refresh?
>>98779865>Slop is good.No.
>>98778330It probably is a better game and more fun (this is not hard to achieve) but why would you have to sell your TOW models first? Are you so poor you can't afford new models without pawning your current ones? I don't get it. I still have models I owned as a teen
>>98779865These look so fucking bad compared to much cheaper 3rd party models, holy shit kek
>>98779872I hope not.>>98779986I would 3d print some but I doubt anyone in my country would ever be able to 3d print resin and the last 3rd party minis I checked out were just as expensive as GW.Anyways, I think I'll go with Lyonesse,
>>98779986Those are models produced over 20+ years after the Breetonian ones
>>98780005you won't do shit
>>98779118>individual heraldryNice. Didn't like GW's push for unified scheme as a fictional historical quirk.
>>98780018You think I won't faggot? You're right, I need to go buy paints first.
>>98780005>just as expensive as GWSource? I own models from dozens of companies and none have come close to GW prices except boutique secondary shit meant for nogame Instagram paintfags
>>98780086Their knights on foot ARE cheaper than the GW ones and since I hate the GW ones I might actually get those.
>>98780117Are these bigger or smaller than the older/non toy sized like knights by gw?
>>9878012232 would be slightly bigger than this.
>>987800053D printers cost nothing. I bought mine for 170€ 3 years ago
I genuinely for fhe life of me cannot comprehend what compels a grown man to want to play with those God awful ugly Bretonnian models... But then again, people play beastmen,.so weirder things have happened
>>98779811Which brands have you tried so far, if I may ask?
>No orc players at locals>More beastmen than empireWhat the FUCK happened?
>>98780252very unfortunate beastniggers must die
>>98780233Citadel, Pro-Acryl, and some of Duncan’s and Vallejo. I Citadel’s colors the best, but I need way more than two coats and if I’m not careful the texture gets all weird. Pro Acryl is better coverage wise but I still get the stramge texture. I never really got out of the testing phase for the other two models, but I trust Miniscape that Vallejo Dark Sand is great, but I haven’t had a situation where I’ve reached for it for a model.
>>98780691Alright, thank you. I’ll use this as a starting point for when I start looking for skin tones.
>>98780005>I doubt anyone in my country can 3d printSub-saharan Africa or a country ending in -istan? It's usually the poorfag countries where 3d resin printers are more common and cheaper than original gw shit, so you're either retarded or living in a dirt floored hut.Not surprised you're a slopper, brownoids love that shit.
>>98780252Statistically, your local meta is an anomaly. Orcs and goblins are the second most popular army at tournaments. However, one reason for why you're seeing more beastmen players is because the army is disgustingly overpowered at the moment.
>>98780775Didn't it get nerfed in the latest faq?I know some locals are pissed about not getting easy wins anymore, but it might be a skill issue.
Did you get the reference ;)
>>98778787Thanks for the tips and advice anon.I totally get where you're coming from with the zerkers and marauders on foot, I just cbf painting that many dudes before the day kicks off. Definitely going to look at investing in some more marauders in time but time is the one thing I don't have a lot of right now.I've landed on:Level 2 Exalted Sorc on foot, Daemology, RRoR and 1 Favour of the Gods5 man marauder horsemen, flails, Cult of the Bloodied Hound, full command and Unnatural Fortitude5 man marauder horsemen with cav spears, throwing axes, Cult of the Carrion Crow, full command1 x 3 skin wolves inc. Jarl9 x chaos warriors, sword n board, full command and a Brazen Collar on the champ. Sorc uses them as a bunker.Wish me luck!
>>98780838I based the skin wolves on 40mm bases as that's what was noted in the Arcane Journal, but apparently that was a typo and they should be on 50's. Apart from aesthetics, is anyone going to give a shit?
>>98780838Good luck
>>98780871They look and rank better on 50s, other than that, I wouldn't have an issue.>>98780838>cbf painting that many dudes before the dayValid. I do love painting infantry and have a bunch of it already, so horse lists aren't too much of a bother.Your list is very reasonably powered, so maybe the ring won't feel too oppressive.Good luck!
is the slopper's goal to make people less interested in these threads? that's the only logical conclusion.
>>98780970I’m not less interested in the thread because of a guy or two posting stuff I don’t like. I just ignore things I don’t like, actually. It’s not super hard
>>98780970my goal is to jam my erect weiner straight up your wifes pooper
Question for the thread: What units do you include in your armies even though they're kinda shit, just because you love them/they worked well one time ages ago?
>>98780086NTA but I live in Korea and if I buy from model makers in Europe or America once I've paid the shipping costs and import costs it costs me about as much as going to the Warhammer store in Seoul and buying a box there.Which is a shame cause the new wargames atlantic waring states chinese set is actually a better representation of what I want for my army than cathay.
>>98781204Well, you just posted one. I've loved pump wagons since I was a kid, even though they're not very good. A bunch of goblins operating a rickety contraption just was too fun to pass up.I used to have this model, it was a stolen Dwarf gyrocopter that the snotlings had stuck a spiky roller onto. First conversion I ever made. Wonder where it went.
>>98781388Okay, paying shipping and import fees to import to gookland is entirely independent of what the company is charging you for the models.. .
>>98781204Chaos warriors. It's a shame what TOW did to them.
>>98778310Been designing my Persia inspired faction in Warhammer. Found some neat art of a Warhammer Persia fire priest.The way I imagined their armies was they have a lot of soldiers who can just shoot fireballs out of their hands (like the Fire Nation from Avatar). This naturally makes their infantry really strong in comparison to most others.I'm wondering what would be some good weaknesses to balance them out. Since they're based off historical Persia, they would also have excellent cavalry.Also, I noticed that, in Persian history, Sultan Muhammad received ambassadors from Genghis Khan (one Muslim, two Mongol) who came to talk about a Mongol caravan that was executed in Persia. The Sultan executed the Muslim envoy and shaved the two Mongol ones of their beards and sent them back. I wonder if this is what inspired the War of the Beard in Warhammer?Also what would be a similar thing for a WHF Persian faction? The Ogres?
>>98782068>Also what would be a similar thing for a WHF Persian faction?The slaanesh cult and maybe even arguably what little there is of mortal tzeentch in there too could be translated as something of having a perisan background/influence.
>>98780970You're such a tsundere lol. Just ask next time.
>>98781204Bestigors, the Warherd just doesn’t feel right without them.
>>98781468Chaos warriors aren't shit though, they're just a bit too expensive.
>>98782121Granted I have no clue if the moon masks are really something that can be attributed to persians. I know next to nothing about zoroastrianism
>>98782121Interesting....I wanted a big historical loss of the Persian faction that pretty much ruined them from their heyday. Maybe pissing off two Chaos factions + not really doing much to stop Slaanesh and Tzeentchian cultists would be good
>>98782068Where on the actual world map of the Warhammer world would this nation of men even be?Badlands? Good luck with Orcs, Ogres and BeastmenThe Darklands? Say hi to more Orcs Ogres, and sometimes Chaos Dwarfs and their hobgoblin raiders.Southlands? Do you think Araby or Nehekara will give room for another human nation?Border Princes? A strong maybe, but then it would be relegated to a single fortress or two nestled in between a hundred other city and micro nation states. Who are also fighting the aforementioned inhabitants of the Badlands most of the time.I don’t think you’ve thought this through and that this might just be an elaborate shitpost
>>98782251My idea modifies the map a bit. Basically the Sour Sea extends a bit and has a waterway leading to the Black Gulf. Some of the mountains around it are a bit flatter and more hospitable, although Iran is quite mountainous so not too much flatter.The Persian Empire used to be big but got fucked over, and mostly stay relevant by controlling shipping through the strait. Like the Strait of Hormuz today.
Is this guy currently reading as a muscle wizard? Need to add some pouches and shit to him, then do all my Nurgle pock marks and things, but would you believe he's a sorc rather than a champion at present?
>>98779749The closest would be using Greatswords and Free Companies bits to make him as armour as possible, but it won't be as armoured looking as that, still pretty close.>>98781204Pistoliers; They're spureless knights with guns really, ride-by shooting and charging headlong without a care of the world, just to show they can, all the young noble got to get some fame if they're not the first born after all.
>>98782380The staff helps but otherwise he looks a bit beefy. I'd suggest adding more robes and a cloak.
>>98782380The Staf makes it obvious he's a Wizard, althought the shield (?) in his back is a confusing choice since they cannot have a shield.
>>98782388Yeah, I did want to do more with him but the way the body goes together makes it really awkward to do simple swaps. I'll see what more I can do with him but I do think I'll be relatively limited.
>>98778310>TWW tertiary fauxgrogs will really pretend this looks cooler than skull popelmao
>>98781465It's still modifying the final cost that you, the customer, end up paying for the product. The company may be selling for pennies, but if shipping and taxes is a hundred bucks, then the product will cost you a hundred and change.Hell, I've felt this pain back when I won a painting contest across the pond and ended up paying about 25 bucks in taxes for the prize I got for free.It's the same thing that happens with tariffs, they don't increase the net cost of goods, but rather are an extra that gets offloaded to the consumer.
>>98782422Skull pope is absolutely retarded in a peak 4th edition way, it's impossible not to love it.Remember, Warhammer is supposed to be fun and a little unserious at times. The faggots who claim that it's a gritty, serious setting are larpers at best.
>>98782422I think they both suck but the old one wins by at least being funny. Nu-Nagash is lame and boring.
>>98778318>perry>manletanon you are retarded
>>98782422Nugash is as soulless as the game he's in.
>>98782625WOW lookin ass.
>>98782629>>98782625there is something charming about the old black and white art of Warcraft and Warhammerit was a different time
>>98782625warhammer dark omen?
>>98782629It's the other way around. And warcraft has some great designs aside from some of the wow overmagical shit.>>98782647No, 4e army book.
>>98782660i'm still pissed they didn't go with the idea of night elves having a few males that had large harems of females I wonder if a Warhammer faction could have that. Slaanesh?
>>98782068If they're strong when things go well they could suffer greatly when things go bad as a balancing factor, say for example they start losing control of their fire powers when losing discipline tests, so on top of routing or falling to fear they end up immolating themselves and nearby allies as the flames slip past their control during the mayhem.>>98780970Yes, it's trolling, he knows everything he posts is shit, he knows nobody likes it or him, he does it on purpose like a tranny flaunting his mental illness.
Played a game vs cathay, was a loss (mostly due to us being evicted so the table could be used for some card game tournament, and me having just lost my general in a very close 1v1 vs miao ying).Takeaways: Chaos lords on demonic steeds seem legit.The champions of ruin are NOT particularly busted, the low base damage really hurts them (especially if you do my meme build of -2 to hit with mark of nurgle). You should bring a mage regardless for dispelling if nothing else.
>>98782166Was gonna say the same. I love em but they are way to pricey for what they do. I wish veteran was auto-included in their current price instead of being an upgrade.
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>>98783167*vomit*
>>98782380is that a shield on his back? if so remove it and replace it with something like a book or alchemical trinketssevered heads oozing fluids would also work as containers for alchemical nurgle shit
>>98783167this shit kino nigga
>>98783167if perryposter or any other historical armour autist is in this thread, can he say if this guy's armour pass the test (other than the WoW giant pauldron obviously) ?
>>98779865>slop is good to figuring out if the scheme actually looks good on the modelsusing your imagination is actually much better, but ai tards can’t picture the apple (they are unensouled)
>>98783218Nah its pretty gay and poorly doneCompare the model to this art and its obvious how stupid armour mcarmoury looks
>>98783315thanks for having answered it >>98783245
>>98779865Based AI sloppa.Post more please!Let's make em seethe
>>98781204Orc arree boyz. I got a serious OCD compulsion of WYSIWYG and sunk cost. I run them 10 man skirmish and i legit forgot them entirely last game after two volleys.
>>98783369I mean, if they are sitting on an objective, and the enemy forgets about them as well, they have done their job.
>>98783445Oh ya, I still love the dinky gits and humorously, once in a blue moon, they get their act together and snipe hard.
>>98778749>SlaaneshNah, I only take the lore where she works for Hekarti and Atharti.
Wood elf update when
>>98784272they're the faction that least needs an update, so they aren't getting one anytime soon
>>98784272Rumormongers are saying a tree spirit AoI is in the works, no idea what to expect. Hopefully poor wood elf players can at least get a generic plastic hero kit.
>>98784366>Rumormongers are sayingif by this you mean "jav is making baseless speculations rephrased as purposefully misleading riddles" then I expect you to have chopped your dick off by last year.
>>98784389Not jav, different guy. Whether or not he’s right I have no idea.
>>98784272Speaking of which, 6 glade riders and I'll be done with my 500pts force.
>>98784442Are those prints or metal minis? Looking great! Very much like the old Armybook cover.
>>98784366>tree spirit AoIthen it's just going to have units you have to convert yourself and some mto runs of old minisstuff they can dig out of their archives are the previous treemen and dryads minis, ariel, the wood elf chariot, and maybe the previous wardancers would work as something funky
>>98782763So, infantry that can cast as a unit and come with spreadable instability? Sounds fun
>>98784469Thanks, they're all prints.
>>98783269>Test models>Painting on printed lineart>Using goyoshop (photopea if you're a real one) to recolor>Collaging existing images>Looking at historical references Even for the aphantasiac, there are countless ways of humanly visualising and planning paint schemes. The AI slopper is a fundamentally mediocre creature, human in form but not spirit, that is simply unable to create on its own and rejoices when the goyslop machine feeds him with endless derivative garbage that makes him feel as though he was even remotely creative.I suppose you could compare their existence to that of a chimp who, thoroughly trained, presses a sequence of buttons in the correct order displayed, motivated not by intellectual pursuit or the indomitable will of creation, but rather a tasty dried mango (or apricot!) snack.
>>98784442>Wardancer spam B-bb-buh-based!
>>98778310I painted Nagash a few months ago.
>>98784663You should change your camera's settings, they are mushing all the details with noise.
>>98784663Looks brill! Something charming of old Nagash.
500 point game today against my buddy’s new empire army (he has now begun painting it). My Beastmen attacked a halfling farm and managed to run off with an engorged sow, but they stopped us from taking the beautiful and nubile goat. Still won the scenario since my dragon ogre turned his general into a meat skewer.
>>98784727With how barren and desolate that table is, you'd expect the farm to get raided every other day
>>98784796Show me your table so I can take notes
>>98784727Poor farm but well done. The empire guy seems to have put all his points in two blocks of infantry. May your goats eat well.
>>98784827Yeah, the hut came with some woven fences I plan to paint up next. I also want to try my hand at a scratch built river for a different scenario.
>>98784835>scratch building terrainYou’re doing God’s work, anon
>>98778310>>98784663>this goofy-ass nearly defeated Sigmar
>>98784854Its a lot of fun, I’ve made some scratch built Necromunda terrain before. Fantasy terrain is a little new for me so hopefully it turns out decent. I know my buddy wants to make bubbling pools of slime with resin.
>>98784874This goofy-ass nearly killed the universetwice
What are the chances of Pegachud Knights having a comeback once the Bretonnia refresh hits? Also you sold your old ass Grail Knights for 3x msrp, right Anon-Kun?
>>98785440Rulewise I don't believe flying cavalry will be allowed to be particularly well performing because it's an unconventional unit type and when unconventional unit types are strong it feels more unfair, even if the army as a whole was perfectly counterbalance around it.
>>98784835Are the farm and sheep from Pillage?
>>98782788Daemonic mounts aren't just legit, they're the only way to make fighty chaos characters worth a shit without relying on a dragon (and at that point, you're not bringing a character, you're bringing a dragon with some schmuck riding it).
>>98785481Yup, pretty great kit. Its a little small for the scale but not immersion breakingly so. Also helps its insanely cheap compared to GW terrain.
>>98785535Nta but i used daemonic mounts before the upgrade, before it gave +1 armour save and had counter charge (attaching one to a knight unit neutralised their counter charge). It was still OP as fuck. Can have an Aspiring champion duke out vs lord level chars.
>>98785619Why stop at an aspiring champ on daemonic mount. You’re saving points on the dragon might as well kit the fuck out of a chaos lord. Put the aspiring champion on the dragon to make the best use out of the points cap.
Warhammer in 2026
>>98785619That's my point, anon. They were already great and now they're even better. The problem, which is in fact the problem with the entirety of the chaos army pamphlet, is that daemonic mounts (or dragons, gigantic spawn, dogres, etc.) are so strong that they make the other options worthless.
>>98785535Yea, theyre fun. The 360 is so good. I lost this fight, but miyao ying cheats with her fuckass ressurection gimmick, and she got super lucky with that one high elf assailment spell that ignores armor and regen. Also she was about to be dragon chow for the warpfire if the game wasnt called for time reasons
>>98786445What about it?
>>98786493Did that warpstone dragon lose one of ot's wings?
>>98786512Yes. I nicked it with my hand while it was on the table and it just broke off. Pretty clean snap so I glued it back on, if it breaks again ill pin it. I think it was slightly pushing against the side of the case when I transport it, and that the pressure may have done it in (unless I really underestimate how hard I nicked it).
>>98786493>unpainted models>unpainted terrain The absolute state
>>98786540Ive been on a horus heresy kick and my opponent has been on a bloodbowl kick, so we both had some stuff we need to finish up. But yea, I need to finish up my demonic steed lord(s). also my hellstriders. And an unbuilt unit of knights I have so I can just start playing heralds of darkness instead. But I have a lot of horus heresy stuff to do so thats going to stay on the backburner. The terrain is whatever the LGS has, not too fussed.
>>98786499Boobs should be big and visible so you know its a woman.
>>98786565See, in general I agree. But complaining about it too vocally is trashy. Just do what I did with my dark elf sorceress and sculpt them bigger to suit your taste.
>>98786567>But complaining about it too vocally is trashy.Remember how Gatekeeping works. Give an inch, lose a mile.
>>98786572One must coom tastefully or not coom at all. You cant just show up with your porn-figs and call it a day you know?
>>98786585I completely understand that, however I think that this "gender nonconforming" nonsense being paraded in relation to tiny, overpriced miniatures is a poison pill and GW will somehow manage to ruin things more if they are allowed to get away with it. I do not condone the people bringing cheesecake or flat out, disgustingly pornographic miniatures to a public location or my own home.
>>98786540I genuinely feel like half these guys don't even like the hobby, with how much they go out of their way to avoid it. What the hell is the point of getting into a creative modelling hobby if you flat out refuse to complete your models? I just don't understand the mentality.
>>98786594>I do not condone the people bringing cheesecakeI do. Cheesecake is tasteful, thats what "tits are big and visible" means. Cheesecake is baked into the frazetta/pulp fantasy aesthetic and therefore has a place in warhammer. But cheesecake has its place, and should not be the norm/default. The "gender nonconforming" (whatever that means) model is fine, shes not very feminine, but shes clearly a very grizzled and (literally) scarred veteran, it would be weird if she looked like a bear fucked her up AND she had her tits out. >>98786602I am not a very good painter and dont want to fuck up the models I converted.
>>98786614Amusingly enough, my wife and I have a number of Frazetta prints in our house. I even grabbed a t-shirt for her with Frazetta art on it. I should probably say that cheesecake and the modern definition of "cheesecake" are not the same to me. As someone who has trawled the depths of the 'gram, there are a lot of things labeled as Cheesecake that are tasteless and pornographic. A player wants to bring beefcake barbarians and chainmail bikini fighter women to the table and it is tasteful? Hell yeah, I would love to see that, especially if well painted. I do agree that cheesecake has a place. It is apt to use a food analogy here, if you eat nothing but cheesecake - or dessert, the sweetness loses the appeal and becomes sickening and cloying. As for the miniature, I just have very little faith in GW to not try to push this "gender nonconforming" nonsense into more and more products. I look at things like the new AoS Dwarfs and fear they might bring that mentality to the armies I love from my teens. You can make a scarred woman look feminine even without breasts hanging out, this just feels like some sort of strange probing before they try to push new, bad sculpts out.
>>98786445Looks like shitRed Sonja wannabe but has no titsStereotypes are good and useful, nuance is for fags
>>98786636Any woman that willingly wearing fantasy t shirts is guaranteed to be a fat hog
>>98786445Who's this, chaos marauder hero? Because looks like something you'd see in AoS.
>>98786636>there are a lot of things labeled as Cheesecake that are tasteless and pornographicOh, for sure. Lots of "technically sfw" models that are the equivalent of nipple pasties too. Although in some ways even THAT has its place. Morathi used to just have her whole tits out (I still have that model actually, I should repair it, use it as a chaos sorcerer on horse). >You can make a scarred woman look feminineMaybe, but it feels like a somewhat incompatible/clashing aesthetic. Stereotypically, that sort of "hardened and scarred" look is just not very feminine (mind you: so is warfare in general). So a woman who is a scarred and harded warrior will, if shes not operating on heightened/superhero logic be rather masculine (well, really she probably wouldnt exist, but you know what I mean). >>98786673Its an event exclusive(?) Aos character sculpt for their chaos line. Personally I think its inoffensive, pretty decent even, if this was a model in a unit of marauders or whatever I dont think you'd complain. But as an event exclusive its dreadfully boring/subpar.
i stopped by the old world event at LVO this weekend to check it out. it looks like a fun enough game but you guys by far have the ugliest trannies out of any of the GW games. Is it worth getting into this game when 40k trannies are so much cuter?
>>98786687The definition of cheesecake has sadly become very elastic, depending on who you talk to. Wife has that Morathi painted up for her Dark Elves, but I think it lost an arm after being knocked from a table, sadly. However the miniature is not particularly lewd or sexual, more like a piece of classical art in my opinion. Morathi being a beautiful and beguiling character in the fluff makes it make sense.I think the style of the new miniature just is middling. It looks like Skwisgaar Skwigelf to me, not a Warqueen or whatever they want to call it. I can appreciate warrior women, even grizzled and scarred ones who are not traditional beautiful - the entire miniature just seems wrong to me from a visual perspective. Either way, I have enjoyed this discussion with you, Anon. Thank you.
>>98786687I have a feeling that they used Brock Lesnar’s daughter as a reference for the war queen, her head shots went viral cause they look like her dad but with long hair lmao. In general women who are rather athletic tend to have a reduced bust as a part of their build, I would say the model is “guilty” of inserting realism into fantasy instead of letting fantasy being fantastical. No one is complaining that Elves have slender builds and are fighting on the front lines against races with far more mass on their bones.
>>98786445>more ugly troonshitAs expected? I haven't given a single cent to GW in 20 years. If you do and still complain about these type of fag shit you're the problem.
>>98787234TLDR true scale was a mistake
>>98787349Yet you still play GW games, which means you're still supporting their business.
>>98787418I'm printing armies for people at my club. I'm literally making money by stealing business from GW lol.
>>98787443Cope all your want, all you're doing is supporting a local Warhammer scene and helping encourage Warhammer as a whole to people, therefore making GW more money in the long run.And the worst part... You're doing it for free
>>98787469I'm going to go ahead and assume the aids has rotten your brain.
>>98787476Indirectly supporting via time and effort is no better than supporting financially, dumb nigger
>>98786614>dont want to fuck up the models I converted.And so they'll forever remain unpainted.Y'know, the only way you can become confident enough to paint the models that feel intimidating to you is by actually tackling them instead of just sulking about it. There's a big difference between saying you're a bad painter and understanding that you've still got a long way to go in your painting journey.If you acknowledge the first fact but not the second, then you're bound to remain indefinitely in your own mediocrity.At the end of the day, a badly painted model is infinitely more soulful than an unpainted one. And worst case scenario, you can always touch up old models once you've improved your skills.Get painting anon,Ake us proud.
>>98786614>don't want to fuck up models So your plan is to leave them incomplete forever?
Tomb King skeleton infantry, chariots AND horsemen are gone from the webstore
>>98782068Ind is a hodgepodge of south and central asian cultures, so you could probably wedge them in there. It's a very yourguys realm, with little official lore. Perhaps one of the devas suffused the very land they live in with aqshy, so it could fit well enough. But high elves, cathayans, apemen, khureshi, hobgoblins, other indic kingdoms, and chaos dwarfs would fight them a lot, probably.
>>98787686I’m surprised it wasn’t sooner, all the skeletons are gonna miss Halloween…..
>>98787839and ogres, tigermen, skaven, jade-blooded, mahtmasi, and dark elves, as well as regional creatures, depending on whether or not you wish to accept in-depth fan work as inspiration. Hope they are good at outrunning basilisks and dreadmaws.
>>98784442These fuck so hard, can't believe they're prints. I'm so behind the times, I'm still used to seeing print lines visible on anything printed locally.
>>98782763That sounds a good idea. I think the basic infantry would have that. But a more elite one would lack it.I think also a good drawback would be the hot area they live in means they've never really developed heavy armor, so they're squishier.>>98787839There are a group called the Parsis in India, who were Iranian Zoroastrians that fled to India to escape persecution by Islam. It is quite interesting reading about their history. I had an idea for how the Persian Empire would secularize:>Two sects in the Fire Temple form. The fire Temple at this stage has the ability to raise standing armies and immense political pull over the Empire>They are very similar but opposed to one another, and they often advocate policies just to be the opposite of the other>One sect likes trading with the Empire, Cathay, etc. The other sect decides they want to focus on militarization just to oppose the first sect>After some small hobgoblin raids, the sect wipes out groups of hobgoblins >They also attack the Chaos Dwarfs, and piss off multiple different Khans of the Hobgoblins by attacking all their group's to "reclaim" treasure >The Emperor is fucking pissed off, especially because the Hobgoblins and Chorfs are now gearing up to fuck them over>Because the two sects refuse to help one another, the Empire gets picked apart piecemeal and a shitload of people die or are enslaved. The mountainous terrain eventually stretches the supply lines of the Chorfs thin and they have to leave >The new Emperor rebuilds and sends scholars to teach the children. It is meant to be humanitarian, but they also teach them that "the temple governs the spiritual, but the Emperor governs the material">He also slowly strips powers from the temple, under the guise of "standardizing">Once he is old, he officially bars religious priests from political positions. There are small rebellions, but the new generations have been taught by his scholars and agree with him
>>98788108Nowadays, even entry grade printers can do nearly invisible print lines, it's truly amazing. One thing I've noticed is that some 3d printing businesses sometimes increase the layer resolution to cut down printing times, at times they don't calibrate and test their resin. Even if they're printing on the fanciest shit ever, their quality isn't always as good as what you can get with a well dialed printer.
>>98779865>>98780005>uniform BretsStop that. That's what Empire is for.
>>98788108I don't think print lines have ever been a thing for resin printers desu. I have an entry level printer from 2021 (200€ back then) and it prints details smaller than I can see.If you have the space for it getting one is a no brainer really.
why are ogres gastromancers instead of gastrologers or gastronomers of the great maw came from space?
>>98787669>>98787634Nah, ill do them eventually. I already did that guy 2x previously (on foot and on his dragon). But its one of those things that feels like an undertaking, so ill find the right moment for it. Also I have a lot of space marines to paint first
>>98788199>>98788541Problem is the brittleness of resin. I've heard of some resin blends which are close to plastic, but haven't found them myself.
>>98788655It's never been a problem for me. I use the basic abs-like v2 resin from elegoo.
>Old World is set centuries before the End TimesSo... Is Old Worlds still heading towards the End Times? How do people get invested in the setting if they know it's heading towards that end?
>>98788895How do I get invested in fucking your mother if I know the sun is going to explode eventually?Who cares how the world ends if it isnt today.
>>98784727I hope it's AI generated because between the sad plant, the mat and the modern chairs it's the definition of soulless.
>>98788895yesI was already invested enough into the setting to have the moral and critical standings to disregard the end times as I would bad fanfiction or other retconned timelines like the storm of chaos onethe world is my bitsbox
definitively cathay here
>>98788949I don't see it.
Am I missing something or is shooting generally terrible in TOW?I've been playing with my friend since it released and we both have the opinion that shooting seems kind of underwhelming. Then today I found out we have actually been playing slightly wrong since we completely missed out on the cover rules for units that are somewhat hidden behind other units. So shooting is actually even worse because you'll have yet another to hit penalty.
>>98788949Nah, looks more like AoS' sea elfs.
>>98788985this isn't 40k, you're meant to have melee combat, shooting is not for winning battles but for getting those units that are out of your reach like scouts and fast flankers
>>98788985Depends on the unit. But I don’t think its terrible, just not useful in certain situations. Firing ten archers into a massive 5x5 block of infantry might not be doing too much, but that same volley into a more elite unit might knock off just enough to result in a panic test. Which I think is the main use for ranged attacks.I generally find things like handguns to be more effective overall, where bows only tend to work in very large quantities.
>>98788985Depends on the units. Cannons fuck hard, skirmishers like gyrocopters or the lantern with special rules and/or high BS are also good.Regular troops with BS 3 not so much unless you come up with specific combos like 80 archers with poison and teleportation.
>>98789031The only army we have that really cares much about ranged attack is his Dwarf army. But it's only his cannons and ballistas that are really scary.Ranged infantry and cavalry seems very weak and when he wins with Dwarfs it's always because of their strong melee blocks and never because of gunline shooting (not really complaining because gunline can be frustrating to play against).I'm just wondering how an army like Wood Elves can do anything in this game when all they are all about squishy ranged troops.
>>98789052Ah I see your problem, you’re shooting at dwarfs. As a dwarf player, its definitely an uphill battle for my friend if he tries to shoot me. Generally dwarfs are so tanky that it feels like you’re barely chipping away at them in a lot of situations. He’s found more luck with artillery, magic, and other grab bag things like fanatics (he plays goblins).As to not make him miserable, I refuse to use too much ranged. Sounds like your friend doesn’t have that compunction. I don’t have a lot of experience with wood elves, so I’m not familiar with their kit, but my friend tends to fuck me over with “debuff” spells and abilities. He uses things that lower my toughness or my movement and those tend to fuck me over. Not sure if wood elves have anything like that, I know they don’t really have artillery. Poison is also your friend against dwarfs as well.
>>98788985Most ballistic shooting in TOW is pretty shit, yes.
>>98778923>MalerionNoThis isn't Shitmar General
>>98789015you're right could be shaerk eggs
>>98789242>This isn't Shitmar General OH NONONO!
>>98788541Can't say I fully agree. Layer lines are very obvious, particularly at layer thicknesses higher than 35. The thing is, orientation, priming and painting help a lot towards disguising any print lines. Even then, if you take a macro picture, or look at a mini from the right angle where the light highlights the staircase effect, it'll be fully noticeable.>>98788655First of all, brittleness is a property that most resins have, the harder a resin is, the brittle it becomes and viceversa (there are always some exceptions, of course). A large part of my collection consists of resin casted models, and yeah, they're all fragile to different degrees, some of them just as much as standard resin 3d prints. I've had either explode from desk- height falls.ABS-like resins are a game changer. Even after curing they retain some flexibility, which makes them a lot more shock resistant and allows for smaller details without fear of breakage. I've got sword blades that even after curing bend like plasticard without breaking, it really is an innovation for the hobby.
>>98789346Feel free to point out where the very obvious layer lines are on each of the wood elves models posted earlier.
>>98789343>gav thorpehis books are so fucking annoying. I remember reading his one about space dwarves and it sucked so bad.
I've got nothing to say that'd add to the discussion really, just wanted to show off Felix I've recently finished
>>98789554He can probably tank a greater demon of slaaneshs cock
>>98789565
>>98789554Looks awesome anon
What's going on? Is GW merging Aos with TOW?
>>98789596maybe
>>98789596no? why do you ask?
>>98789596No.
>>98789596Yes of course
>>98784442Very nice.
Are they right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrIM-z_RLzA
>>98789596No. TOW will remain the HH equivalent.AoS though will suffer its own End Times; Warhammer: The Last World soon.
>>98789813>these two faggetsskipped
>>98789813I can tell just by the title which drama channel this is, and I'm not giving you a view.
>>98789343Didn't they have to do it because of some marvel copyright?
>>98789827dude negativity lmao hella epic
>>98789838stop advertising your rubbish here. You ramble on forever and never say anything.
>>98789835Yes, Malekith the Accursed.The name and character were created by Marvel, so that means Disney could have sued GW to kingdom come.
>>98789835TWW stil went by Malakith so it wasn't a concrete legal issue until after that.
>>98789813>literally who drama griftersbuy an ad, not opening that garbage
>>98789847Though Marvel barely uses this character now so it's a moot point.The last time this guy showed up was 2021
>>98789849Total war didnt get meddled with by GW until warhammer 3
>>98789877but the use of the name is something Marvel could have sued GW/CA over
>>98789813Fuck you not clicking on whatever shit that is
>>98789889they would have had to sue entities, which would probably make it messy. There's also the fact that war hammer fantasy is now a distinct property compared to the old world. It would be an entirely different thing if GW were continuing using his older lame name.
>>98789847Very funny bc it literally means “evil man”I don’t really have an opinion about the new name, I don’t really like dark elves.
>>98789889CA would have been clean because they're only using the name through a licence, GW would have to defend itself and would likely bring up that their character is completely different beyond the name and the fact he's the dark elf king and that there's never been any real consequence from the homonymy or attempt to deceitfully make money off marvel's IP and notoriety through all the decades it's been a thing.The name change happened in aos likely for the same reason gw changed names to a bunch of races, not really because they need to own the concept of the fantasy race, even though they end up owning the new names, mainly as preemptive measure, but most likely to control how people search for warhammer stuff online, before aos and total war and botslop, since proprietary terms only give you back warhammer related stuff, while generic terms don't, and people could get sidetracked or lured to something else, which is a fringe case since anyone's not a retard would narrow the search by adding "warhammer", but many of these changes are meant to herd retards, not normal people.
Taking a brief brake between painting more Gors and doing the details for the sacrificial altar at my herdstone. Nothing has been glued on yet, going to paint the bits separately.what are you Anons working on?
>>98789953>what are you Anons working on?If you really must know, I’m working on my taint.
>>98789978Goodness me
>>98786445>Wargamer are fags>This is somehow news to anon.
>>98789889It's most likely because GW wantzd to be able to sue and therefore needed a gayer name
>>98790533You should get a tripcode so you can be filtered.
How does this look for a 750 battle march army?>noble, sea guard honour, general, leads one unit of sea guard>lvl 2 mage with saphery honour, battle magic, leads the swordmasters>10 sea guards full cg>10 sea guards full cg>10 swordmasters full cg>5 sisters of avelorn, bow of the seafarer>eagle bolt throwerWe've been playing 600 point games and decided to step it up a bit
So dwarves are pretty immune to chaos corruption, maybe even being undead? What about diseases though? Could they get sick?
>>98790541You should cry less and talk about warhammer more.
>>98790627Dwarfs are tough, but not immune, they can get sick, they can mutate, they can be raised in undeath, it's just more difficult.
>>98790541this
>>98789596Ew.
>>98790627>So dwarves are pretty immune to chaos corruptionAnon theres an entire subrace of chaos dwarfs that exhibit frequent mutation. Elves and dwarfs are more resistant to chaos corruption (in the mutative sense) than humans, but theyre not immune.
>>98790627Yeah totally dude
>>98790627>So dwarves are pretty immune to chaos corruptionNo tainted dwarfs exist
Everyone post the character you most resemble.For me it's Malerion. He's intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour
>>98790952Was Hashut considered a chaos god in the old pre AoS lore? Wasn't he kinda just his own thing, also an ontological evil god but not specifically of chaos.
>>98791021No, they were called chaos dwarfs for a reason, if anything in a few places it was suggested that hashut might have been a chaos entity very related to khorne, enough to have made the juggernauts for him and to have a few similar runes.But it never went close to an actual confirmation, the idea that it was a fallen ancestor god or dwarf that achieved demonhood was already a somewhat popular fan theory.
Chaos dwarves didn’t have any lore at all
>>98791048maybe not before 5th edition before that they were just short chaos warriors
>>98791016do you also bang your mother?
>>98791021Yes. Since 4th edition he was always considered a Chaos God. Some people hand fan-theorized that Hashut might have previously been an Ancestor God, but it was only fully confimrd(retocned) in AoS.
>>98790627>rootkingposting in /wfg/
>>98791037The Chaos Dwarfs' particularly closer relation to Khorne was a thing in 3rd edition. From 4th edition onward, they became Dwarfs that worshipped their own Chaos God.
>>98791021Realm of Chaos from ~1988 is still the best guide. Both Hashut and the Horned Rat can more or less be explained as wildly successful/powerful demon princes, to the point their patronage is god-like.
>>98791714Wait you’re saying skaven were a chaos entity since back then
My hate for tom king knows no bounds
>>98791716skaven were undeniably chaos since their very introduction and have never been anything but
>>98791037>>98791714I always thought of Hashut as a lesser chaos god (Realm of Chaos mentions there are many) who, like Vashtorr would do for 40k, produced daemon-powered machinery for the other gods in their wars against each other and garnering the worship of industrious crafters like the dorfs, giving rise to the Dawi Zharr.
>vashtor Oh my god I fucking hate 40K refugees The new fag is showing so much
>>98791714Isn't the horned rat called a god in the Realm of Chaos books?Another Skaven god is in those books
>>98791714Not so much as "god-like" but actual god (with a small g); they'd be considered as among the "Lesser Powers of Chaos", like Kweethul. Minor chaos gods.>>98791748>I always thought of Hashut as a lesser chaos godAnd that is how he had always been, since his conception.>VashtorrIt's arguably if he is actually a minor Chaos god, or just a very powerful Greater Daemon (Undivided).
>>98791756No, anon, I had that discussion of Hashut as a producer of engines for the other gods long before Vashtorr was a thing.But go ahead and sperg out.Just mind your Slaaneshi pronouns.
>>98791763>minor Chaos godThey use the term "demigod" for him but they really should acknowledge the minor Chaos gods again; at least in 40k. They acknowledged the Great Horned Rat as a minor god who was trying to earn a spot at the table with the Big Four. And has at this point with whatever lore Smegmar is doing now. They also floated Malekith-cum-Malerion as a chaos god of the Shadow Elves back at the beginning of AOS when Slaanesh was out of the picture. But have done literally nothing with him since.
>>98791791Oops, forgot I had a picture attached. Was going to make a point about Chaos Votanns possibly worshipping Vashtorr as Hashut. But that's silly headcanon.
>>98791763>It's arguably if he is actually a minor Chaos god, or just a very powerful Greater Daemon (Undivided)I mean, is there a functional difference?
>>98791840A minor god amassed power on their own. A greater daemon or daemon prince, relies on the power granted by their patron deity.
>>98791849But daemons of chaos undivided wouldn't really have a patron in the first place would they
>>98791840They would normally have the Big Four as their sires.
>>98791899oops, meant for >>98791872
>>98791759the horned rat is not discussed in those books, a skaven who became a demon prince powerful enough to be a patron is presented as an example of how to build a custom patron from scratch
>>98791772it's so hilarious that at the time it was written, this was intended to demonstrate the perversion of chaos worshippers but by today's standards, it ironically would be considered a great example of inclusionwe should disseminate it on youtube, twitter/X and reddit to cause embarrassment for gw's pr guys
>>98790235>Wargamer are fagsWarhammer* more like. Warhammer isn't a wargame, and homosexuality is essentially non-existent in the historical world. You have some small pockets of faggots in the /awg/ spaces due to 40k refugees bleeding into it, but certainly less than in Warhammer
Do you think Kislev's tww3 roster would be fun on tabletop?>basic core infantry starts with bows which can swap out for pistols, can buy shields, light or heavy armor, great weapons or spears>specialized shooting infantry gets light armour, halberds and handguns>elite melee infantry with heavy armor, optional shield and/or great weapon and probably some special rule>specialized hybrid infantry with armor and options for either a second hand weapon, spear or bow, all magical>light cavalry that can buy bows>heavy cavalry, probably with some panic inducing related special rule>monstrous BEAR cavalry>fast cat cavalry>bear pulled cannons
>>98792195No, actually, 40k players are the chads of wargaming and the only ones normie adjacent enough to get laid. Not all of them, obviously, like the one in your picture, but every other """adult""" that plays with toys is an absolutely hopeless loser
Question about Gnoblars, are they a pillar of the Ogre playstyle or are they just fun to have? I got a kit of them stocking up on old Ogre stuff before the refresh, wondering if I should actually build the unit or use them as decoration.
>>98792792You can play just fine without them. But they do make good speedbumps to screen your units so your opponent is forced to charge them, they run away, then your ogres get an easy charge into the enemy.Unless you want to be utterly insane and run nothing but gnoblars.
>>98792814I see. I might just hang onto them as points filler and build the stuff I’m more excited about in the meantime (I’m not quite insane yet). Thanks for the info.
>>98792859Oh shit, I forgot that in TOW they're on 25s. And since they're still 2 PPM, you can have a huge block of 50 of the little fuckers just taking up a ton of real estate in the middle of the board. And because that huge block is only 100 points (105 if you give them a Groinbiter) it's not a huge loss if they run.Hell, just a couple 30-gnoblar blocks for 60 points each taking up a lot of space. Or squatting on objectives if you choose to play with those.
>>98792792Depends on how shooty your enemy is. If they play a mainly melee army gnoblars are useful for eating a charge since some of your damage comes from ogre impact hits but its not game changing IMO, you're tough enough to eat a charge and keep going in most cases. But if they have a lot of high strength multi-wound shooting like cannons and bolt throwers you want to have some wide gnoblar screens running a few inches in front of the ogres since they can quickly kill a chunk of your army.
>>98792749yea...
>>98792749>ACKshully, .. 40k players are the chads
You guys love to hate each other huh
>>98792996Warhammer chuds all hate each other but there is fundamentally no difference between a 40k and a ToW player, or ever an AOS player for that mayter
>>98792877>>98792884That certainly makes them more appealing for army building purposes, so my dudes can have a greater chance of actually doing things. They’re gonna make it into the list after all.
>leave for a couple days>come back>perrymanlet still spamming shitpostsLMAO does the little guy have no life outside this place?
>>98793059you're still seething about that guy ?
>>98782342Persoa already exists, it is the chorfs
>>98793059
>>98793059He's cripplingly autistic and not intelligent enough to hold a conversation.
>>98792720What about the dlc?
>>98778310Question. Why isn't all fresh water poisoned by Skaven? They're underground almost everywhere, so how do things like wells work? Why isn't there poison in all of it?
>>98791716Skaven are one of the races whose lore has remained the most stable since their introduction back in 2e. The main difference is that some of them are stated to be aligned to other gods and they would sometimes join forces with other races, such as in a Realm of Chaos warband.
>>98793233seethe perrynigger
Post work-in-progress
>>98794174NIGGA??
newfag herehow difficult is it to get an old world scene started up at your local gaming store?
>>98794251Start with battlemarch, run a few demo games and it might take off from there.
>>98794174
>>98794251I’ve seen battle march get a ton of people into the game locally. Start by trying to run 500 point games. Bonus points if you get two mini armies to let em try. Empire vs Orcs is always a crowd pleaser.
>>98794259>>98794487ThanksI haven't read the rules but I have been reading older lore from fantasy codecies and love the settingone or two showed some interest but asked if circle bases could be used, I have no idea if they can be
>>98794495Circle bases are a little difficult, though there are converter trays to put rounds on a rectangular platform. Overall, you need the units to be “rank and flank” since that kind of movement and pivoting is crucial to the game. Certain select units that are “skirmish” I guess could be left on rounds and it not matter much, but they’re not the default kind of unit and should be used sparingly.
>>98794495There is a work around, getting adaptor trays. Cheap, simple and doesn't force them to destroy their old bases.
Here's a small curiousity regarding Hashut. When the Chorfs were reinvented in 4th edition, within their own Armybook, the term "Chaos god" was used to denominate the Bull god just one time.>>98791048Tf you mean? >>98791098There were arguably little more that "short chaos warriors" in 3rd ed., yes. But since 4th edition, they became the Chorfs that we know of today.
>>98794685Pretending like chaos dwarfs had any relevant lore post 7th edition is pure copium. Everything before that is null. Hrud in 40K have more relevance
>>98794704>Pretending like chaos dwarfs had any relevant lore post 7th edition is pure copium.Tarmurkhan came out in 8th edition anon.
>>98794704You sound extremely confused.
newfag posting againCan I paint my army any color I want or do I have to follow rules?The Breyherd book says they're all brown with black fur but I was thinking of painting my army in the colors of one of the gods.also what the fuck, why are all beastmen chaos undivided now when looking into older lore, they could be anything
>>98795408Anon, legit, the army book lore is more for inspiration than set in stone. The whole part of the hobby is painting and making. Paint as you want. Even seen some non green orcs online. Do what you want, the hobby is better for it.
>>98795408Beastmen are the true children of chaos, hence the undivided part. Also god specific beastmen are more of an AoS thing nowadays. But model and paint them however you wish. It may also be due to the powers of chaos having waned for some time now, and just now starting to pick up steam, hinting to the eventual great war of chaos that is to come.As for colors for or my own herd I went with a pale skin and a warm brown fur to contrast it, pic related. So go wild, and make sure to post your dudes!
>>98792195No retard.I was referring to the site Wargamer that wrote the article (>>98786445)
>>98795414well that's good to hear. I spent hours thinking about what colors I wanted use>>98795430I was thinking of making a warband be touched by slaanesh. I'm choosing between peach skin with white fur with pink highlights. Cloth would be pink with metal being goldorwhite skin with a pink wash over the fur, teal cloth and gold jewlry
>>98795408>Can I paint my army any color I wantLook, as long as it's painted, your army will be a lot better than 90% of the old world players'. Beastmen in particular are suited for varied fur schemes, it's just that most players are too lazy to go beyond the brown base > dark wash > tan drybrush way. Hell, in the first three editions of the game Beastmen weren't limited to just goat people, all sorts of animals and mutations were present in the model range, which made for very colourful and chaotic looking armies.>why are all beastmen chaos undividedBecause the old world rules team is full of hacks that hate flavour or interesting rules. The core rules for the old world may be ok, but most armies are at their most boring ever when it comes to customisation and unit choice.
>>98795414Speaking of. In my lore for em the warboss saw a khorne daemon sword and thought it was the greatest choppa he’d ever seen, and that the humie with it didn’t deserve it. Any blood that splattered on his warband’s skin couldn’t be washed off from the sword’s influence. I just wanted Warcraft fel orcs tho
>>98795476And a mini for TOW. Haven’t touched models in a bit tho cause I’m also doing that scratch built tavern
>>98795446Test your color ideas on pieces of sprue before applying it to a model proper. That way you don’t have to strip paint or paint over it.Also your first minis will look ass if you’ve never painted before, there’s no way around it except practice and learning techniques.I can also recommend that you get stuff for your miniatures bases as well to really finish it, it adds so much. Not needed on every single mini, but a little something here and there makes wonders. Like the fern I have placed on this dude for example
>>98795476Looking good regardless. I can dig redskin orcs
>>98795485I've painted a couple of AoS models, like 40 but I speed painted them reallyI was in the /40g/ painting up some Night Lords but after I got into the lore I really feel in love with Fantasy.>mini basedoh I'm 100% doing this with my Beastmen (buying the combat patrol style box next month)>>98795476Red Orcs look surprisingly badass
>>98795408The old world is going for an unusually decaffeinated Chaos, as the game is in its early state with things developing towards Asavar Kul's invasion, the sacking of Praag, and the Empire's uniting under Magnus. We're not quite there yet, and they seem to be trying to say Chaos wasn't snowballing quite yet to full-on daemon incursions, etc until some time after Kul's invasion. Don't ask me why daemon princes or steam tanks are in the game, or why black orcs are core though. Some choices are just odd or even counter to their preview material. Cathay coming out before Kislev and being written into the Old World context was also a head-scratcher, but warhammer fantasy always struggled with pretense on why geographically separated armies would fight (i.e. Lizardmen). For those issues, I do quite like the attention the Border Princes region is getting. That Bret AJ Border Princes list is a treat.
>>98795504If you want nice looking resin bits for your bases I recommend checking out Greenstuff World. That’s where I got my ferns, mushrooms, stumps, dead bushes, and so on. A good showcase of this is on the base of my Ghorgon
>>98795482>same eyeGood choice Anon, the mono eye is one of the best "heads" for the spawn in my opinion.
>>98795535Agreed. I was wanting to replicate this art I had seen when I was looking up inspiration for spawns
>>98795519Nice the forest base kit is tempting, but If I'm leaning into slaanesh then I should use a marble floor or something.I found some that look good on this site called "Forge.Miniwargaming"
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