I Broke Something In Nahiri Alright EditionPrevious: >>98788598>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: what's your best mono red pile?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Let's have a nice little UB free thread
>>98794406Back to your containment zone. >>98702105All in universe IPs are filled with trannies and woke liberal shite. At least with some UB IPs we are allowed to enjoy bare midriffs of 15 year old girls.
>>98794418she cute :)but she has no blocking ability
>>98794418well said, fellow ty lee enjoyer
>>98794429umm this seems a bit too chuddish
>>98794372>TQI love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
I'm sorry Redbros, after my many insults, I actually tried red aggro and it was so kino
I like magic the gathering : )
>>98794455Wellcum to the fold
>>98794372>TQThis is my only mono red pile so it's the best by default. It's not very good though.
>>98794367They already have with that Hobbit pony herd
>>98794372My Feldon of the Third Path prison list ended up being enough of a menace that my friends had enough after a few months>anon please play a deck without winter orb next timeI took it apart shortly after because they were right, I was leaning on that shit way too much
Sex with Firebrand Archer
If your game has resources, then the most effective competitive move is the denial and slowing of said resources. For some reason Commanderfags really don't like this concept, citing scrub nonsense like "uh it's feelsbad and ruins the vibes" and other rubbish.
>>98794591not in my bracket chud
>>98794591Sir this is an edh thread
>>98794598Yes and? I really don't understand why EDH players seem to deliberately not take the most optimal move. If a opponent is on 2 life, and you have the ability to easily take them out, do it.
Sisters is it racist if I attack the black guy at my table? What if he thinks I'm re-enacting harmful colonial stereotypes?
>>98794591Sorry bud this format is for funhavers and people with social skills.
>>98794603That's just autism. This is a format for binder fodder and pet cards, the power level is all over the place as a result. Personally, I just want good game, if that means picking my bracket 2 oros deck instead of my cedh grenzo deck then that's what I'll do
>>98794609Playing the game to the best of your ability isn't "not fun", what the hell am I reading. You make less sense than the rules text for storm
>>98794613Literally schizo poster can't even keep his own point straight let alone interact with another person
>>98794372I have the goblin storm deck with a few changes. I guess that.
>>98794591>muh efficiencyThe tagline for the format is >build casually, play competitivelyHope this helps!
>>98794635according to who?
>>98794637Sheldon Menery
Reminder to whoever needs to hear this. Ignoring trolls is the best way to deal with them. They want attention.>No gay bolas in OPOh, that explains it.
>>98794658I hope you realize the hypocrisy of your post.
>>98794677He won't but what's new?
>>98794581This didn't happen, by the way.
>>98794652A dead faggot? Who cares, as soon as thet nigger died the rules retards went wild. Unbanning coalition victory was them pissing on his grave.
>>98794696lol retard
>>98794696I have never seen coalition victory or panoptic mirror being played since unbanning
I hope Titanbreach robots are busted as all fuck Like half of them immediately banned within the week in standardI want them to be so disgustingly strong that people frown just at the sight of themAnd I'll chuck every single of them I can afford in my Shorikai deck
>>98794694What's so hard to believe, lol?
>>98794406Jumpscare
>>98794707they're saving all the busted cards for wakanda of a set.
>>98794707>Vehicles>Ever have the possibility of being broken
>>98794745>Titanbreach>Just realized a titan was just freed>So it will being vehicles vs eldrazi It will be a worse selling set than aethershit
My mono-red deck is Freya and she is also my waifu. I also play as her my general in Competitive Brawl format on MTGArena.
If a player resolves last March of the ents, would you prefer to be killed with craterhoof or watch several 8 mana etbs resolve?I tried to build a deck that doesn't one shot from hand, but I think as a result the turns are too long.
>>98794372>TQ: what's your best mono red pile?My Alexios deck. I only ever play it when I'm forced to play and I don't want to or when there's more than 4 players in the pod.https://manabox.app/decks/Utl1mDE_TOO3lP8Y7cfUpgThough I'm starting to enjoy playing Red so much I might make a Magda Dragon deck and a Iraxxa, Empress of Mars deck as well.
TQ:Purphorus Bronze blooded. Love the deck, goes from 0 to 100 as soon as I reach 5 mana. Ive had a guy say he didnt attack me because he felt bad about my board state. I won 2 turns later from pure cheating out chunky face smashing artifact / dragons, no combo
>>98794372People at my lgs fear Kharn now.I did have to have a strangely long conversation with someone once about how he doesn't control the equipment/auras attached to him though.
>>98795000Why Kharn over Alexios? Sincerely asking why
>>98794609>this format is for funhavers and people with social skills>in other words this format is for people who don't like playing blackwhat did sheldon mean by this?
>>98795028Draws cards, I dislike asscreed, kharn is a cool guy
Some Anon posted his idea for a Majora's Mask MtG card. I picked the idea up and made this.What do you think? Overpowered?
>>98795167I kinda fuck with all of those on a flavor level, not gonna lie, though skull kid's transformation cost is way too low for his other form giving you what amounts to Avacyn/Sigarda on steroids
>>98795167I don't understand the point of terrible fate. There is literally no incentive to run it (all players lose?) unless you need an outlet to sink an arbitrary amount of life into. The second paragraph is also beyond retarded and makes no sense.
>>98794658This is such a crazy self own lmao
So this 100% goes into Dack Fayden right?
>>98795167Beyond piss easy to flip for something so powerful
>>98795268Lol no. If you are casting dack you've already won the game.
>>98795167Skull kid A side is a white or green card, B is probably too strong for the cost. Also isn't he a fairy? I thought he was an offshoot of the woods kids. Terrible Fate can't function as written, it needs to enter with some way to remember what X is, as that information isn't retained off the stack. Stuff like hydras work because X is used to modify how it moves from the stack to the battlefield.>>98795268>basic landNo, just run stuff that can get Homweward Path.
If I bring back Collector's Cage with Daretti's attack trigger I can cast what I got with hideaway immediately if I have the 1 mana even if it's a sorcery or creature as long as I have the 3 creatures with different powers condition, right?I know that it's supposed to ignore timing restrictions but some guy we were playing against was dead set on telling me that I was trying to con the table.
>>98795352>You choose whether to play the exiled card as Collector's Cage's last ability resolves. If you do, you do so as part of the resolution of that ability. You can't wait to play it later in the turn. Timing restrictions based on the card's types are ignored. However, you can never play lands on other players' turns. (2024-04-12)
>>98795352Yes. There are no timing restrictions on its activation, which lets you as anything hidden under it at instant speed.
>>98795352if you got priority, yes.
>>98795365>>98795367>>98795372I knew it. I understand getting miffed because that find meant he got hit for 27 commander damage from feeding 3 arcbounds to Zabaz doubling them with Resourceful Defense right after. Which I also got questioned for.God I love this deck when it works.
>>98794547Flash in Containment Priest. Nice deck retard.
>>98794372>TQ: what's your best mono red pile?This. It's not good, and it's barely won any games, but I'm trying to make it better. It's fun to punish everyone for playing the game, especially those greedy landfall decks.
>>98795391Resourceful defense is just a sleeper bonkers card, but the confusion comes from people not understanding "put its counters on <something>." It doesn't mean "remove the counters from X and put them on Y" it's "note the list of counters on X and put that list of counters on Y."
>>98794372>TQ
Wen Trek spoilers?
>tqMono red? More like mono gay
>>98795481That and it's creature version are so good on a Modular deck. One time, the stars aligned perfectly so I could use sticky fingers on Zabaz turn 2, and thanks to that I had enough mana to get >>98795499 on the field by turn 3, then next turn play Role model, copy Zabaz so the copy dies to the legend rule so Zabaz is now a 4/4, get Arcbound Ravager in there and sac Zabaz so the Ravager is now a 10/10 by turn 4 and I can cast Zabaz + copy it again next turn so it gets 3 counters every turn.Then I got told to fuck off and my board got exiled but it was worth it.
>>98795518Probably not until after the comic con announcement.
>>98795565I know what zabaz does, but most of my white and red counters cards are generic and don't do much with him. Maybe eventually I'll buy the arcbounds and try it out.
>>98795268Might be worth swapping out sword of the animist for assuming the protection doesn't brick your own cards.
>>98795752It sure does, since he wants to flicker himself to dump all his key pieces in one go.
>>98795787I meant more for decks that are already equipment heavy and have animist. Dack wins because you cast him so there's 0 need for that card at all.
Been messing around with the new Zombie deck with Evil Megumin and this is a fun combo
>>98795818>>98794372
>>98795794He was explicitly asking about dack
>>98794372Inferno is my best mono-R deck, I very rarely win with it because my friends all are familiar with how it goes, but even just having Inferno in the command zone is enough to warp the game. I have to play it now like an instant-win deck, if I play Inferno I need to be able to protect it and also take everyone out in the same turn, otherwise everything I do is hated out of the game from fear of many huge fireballs incinerating the table. I love it.
>TQI have a mono red flicker/aggro deck that has become my pet projectWould you think that red has a lot of good self ETB creatures? Because it really doesnt, not counting the "other creature" ETBs.https://moxfield.com/decks/hSjis58CRUyE4HRswu_q1w
>>98794372 speaking of the previous TQ about random bulk finds I found the thread pic in my bulk and thought it seemed pretty good. never used it though. maybe I should. I dont run gamble in any decks either though>>98794406ok but that doesnt count for LOTR, final fantasy and Dnd sets right since they are essentially universe within by all having similar vibes and source material/mutual inspiration to each other??>>98794510how does morphing a commander from the command zone work? seems not great. without green land ramping this is just too expensive to cast. red's stolen dark ritual cards are all not great and artifacts get blown up E-Z>>98794594so anyway I cast blood moon>>98794703I have tried to do coalition victory, something that makes stuff 5 colors ends up always getting destroyed making it fizzle. very hard to get it to land. still can't believe its unbanned in commander. wild ISH>>98794995greatest mono green commander of all time (hes the GOAT)>>98795167take out the white and it would be more fitting. skull kid is definitely red blue black green (green for being a forest dweller originally). red is for all his literal direct damage and power gain from the mask. black and blue pretty obvious (control and death, plus THE MOOOOOOOON)
also, TQ, I was going to do mono red Knuckles the ECHID but ended up going for a Smaug the Impenetrable red-black pestilence thing. but kept a lot of the core. several Cheerios. knuckles would have been better for more casual ISH but I needed another higher power thing for some of the higher power game that come up. knuckles is still useful in the 99. mono red is probably my least desirable color to play as since it sucks so much balls. mono white and green are great. black can be too and I'm brewing up a mono black UH OH STINKY!! deck for Olinda (will just proxy her) but I cant actually think of any good synergies with her effect. mono blue can do lots of silliness, like seeing the artifact pre-con go artifacts, or you can do merfolk, or thieves ["rogues"]. sea creatures....(although I was thinking of a U/B crack-ken deck. either way mono blue artifacts is much better than mono red IMO. red just sucks in commander. goblins is a bout it. dwarves is a red/white thing. dragons costs way too much. and your shit getting locked up by massive O-rings, song of dryads, trapped in the moon, etc with almost no enchantment removal makes red the weakest by far. mono red players rage when you imprison their commander even though theres several options for directly removing and even exiling enchainments that red can play. red just sucks [again, in commander]. not to mention the faggots at gōtC trying to get people to not play blood moon in casual games ruins some of reds best control pieces
>>98795912Mono-red treasures are a pretty fun and strong archetype to play imo, I also appreciate how there are multiple viable commanders and you can swap them out at will such as Knuckles, Magda, Smaug, Ragavan
Walmart has one. Should I be a faggot?
>>98796452Her precon sucks and she's cheap enough as single to just buy her and fill the rest up with actually synergistic cards for less than you'd pay for the box.
>>98796460Yeah, I'd be a faggot for 60 dollars, not the 79.98 they were charging
>>98796500I would have bought it, that's half what it normally goes for. But I'm a sucker for a deal, that's how they keep getting me to buy secret lairs.
Some cute and some gay in the mail today.>>98794372Mono red doesn't really do it for me.>>98793504Pasties are hotter than having nipples fully out.
You should post your decks.
>>98796919You first
>>98794372>TQLove my girl Ivora.
You should post other peoples' decks.
>>98796950No.
>>98796919Here you go.
>>98796452you have my permission to print this out and play it instead
>>98796999>100% cat>cat wizard>factually only 50% catShit proxy
>>98797006fully cat and fully warlock
>>98796919
>>98794926>Empress of MarsI've been thinking of trying this one too. Been wanting to have a place for all the red play from exile stuff. Either her or Laelia.
I fucking love mono white.
>>98797125prove it with facts and logic
>>98797131I can't, for I am not a blue player.
Is there such a thing as a fun mono blue deck?
>>98797147I had fun
>>98796794>Pasties are hotter than having nipples fully out.Prove your thesis.
>>98797152What is the interaction with this and pic related? I'd assume it goes something like picrel dies then comes back as a non-legendary moon land, then copies another target ally becoming a land creature with "t: add colorless" and the new copied creature's effect?
>>98797147Yeah. Dry erase tribal with Orvar is fun.
>>98797189it comes into play as a copy of yuethe legend rule kicks in, you sac the cloneyue's ability causes it to reenter the battlefield as a land named moon that also enters as a copy of any ally
>tqI just got my first mono red. What should I add or cut?
>>98797204he cute
>>98794372>what's your best mono red pile?JAWS. I rarely lose with him.
>>98796999Not that guy, but thanks for the permission anyway.>>98797173You don't want me to do that.
>>98797224BASED
>>98797224I said prove it faggot
>>98797092I like Iraxxa more because if they remove her after a few exile casts, I have a small army, while with Laelia, if they remove her, you're basically starting over.
>>98797125It's pretty sad that anthems have become complete trash now that there's so many +1/+1 counter cards in the game.
>tq>hey kid, you wanna fuckin ping em?
>>98797189i love how shitty but cool that armour is
>>98797204Cut molten gatekeeper and impact tremors, youre not going to benefit from pinging 1 damageAdd more mana and card draw. Ruby medallion, wayfarers bauble, navigation orb, burnished hart inspired tinkering, seize the spotlight, brass's tunnel grinder, bonehoard dracosaur, burning curiosity, visions of phyrexia, the flux, treasure nabber, fire crystal, orbital plunge, curse of opulence, spiteful banditry, etc, etc
>>98794418>UBrownoid is a pedophileWhat a shock!
>>98797679uh oh melty
>>98794372The one and only
>>98797718troons are deathly allergic to certain japanese genres
>>98797759>why do troons groom? to make more of their own kind because they cannot reproduce (make a wild guess why)>this is in contrast to a loli who wants to remain a woman, which is naturally something troons will never be>this is simply an extension of troons hating everything that makes women prettyyour gaslighting won't work here tranny
>>98797777quads of impressive mental gymnastics
>>98797777you're in /edhg/ you aren't reproducing ether
>>98797718All one of them?
>>98797780>>98797785funny how the biggest english loli has no trannies in her fanbasejust a /vt/ visitor laughing at you trannies, seethe more
>play "casual fun" edh>guy makes shitloads of mana with nonstop synergistic engines>no one has any fun because we're getting shat on with 9001/9001 trample creatures with haste
>>98797803Knowing the "biggest english loli" isn't a good thing.
>>98797006>>98797016It's so fucking dumb that she's a warlock. Wizards really dropped the ball with that one.
>>98797806currently green can just roflstomp people in casual with insurmountable value if not disrupted so it's up to the other four colors to stop it, 'let me do the thing' fags be damned
>>98795834I do love a commander that can just blow someone the fuck out like that. Mind sharing your list?
Should Zozu be my commander or 99 as part of a punishment pinging deck? I also want it to punish them but not me if possible
>>98797814such outrage over fictional characters, many such cases
>>98797420You make a good point. Going wide would pay off better more often than not.
>>98797809wotc only reintroduced the sorcerer creature type in lorwyn 2.0 so yshtola just missed the boat on that one
>>98797125Me too. I even run this card too.
Reminder that the "moral guardians" who complain loudest about their so called morals are always the ones breaking them.
>>98797928Just because you put a magic card on your post doesn't mean its on-topic.
>>98797939close enough for here.
>>98797759For whatever reason, the people who want the real thing have an extreme aversion to loliYou will almost always see either trannies or normies moralfagging endlessly about it before they inevitably get caught sexting minors or hoarding CSAMDon't ask my why, it just keeps happening
>>98797825bros?
>>98797966Just have him as the commander and mitigate it on your end.
>>98797974damn that's shit
>>98797825I got Zozu in the 99 of Daredevil. The deck is full of hit everyone cards and he lets you double up on and focus some of the damage.
>>98797982Don't have a lot of options in mono red.
How useful are medallions really? Good for mono only, or good for 2c and falls drastically from there?
>>98797983What card is this effect but a real card?
>>98798072Nothing. Sorry.
>>98798062I run one in each of my mono color decks. But that's mostly because I like the flavor text of them. They pull their weight decently well most of the time. I can't imagine running them in two or more color decks though. Unless your deck almost exclusively focuses on one of the colors.
Would Rakdos be better than monored for annoying ping?
>>98798072Daredevil.
>>98798078Yes, because you will be gaining life while doing it. (usually)
Shouldn't this be like "always boring" or "sometimes boring"? I get the hi-larious double meaning of boring and it's a drill, but to say "never boring" literally doesn't make sense.
>>98798078play obby, yeah
>>98798075Yeah. I have them in my mono color decks, and once of each in a single 2c deck, and they still do a fair bit of work there but that just could be bias.
>smol bean>veggies What do these terms mean broskis
>>98798110>smol beanBeing the little innocent guy people leave alone because he isn't threatening
>>98798110smol beaning is being as least threatening as possible until you can just combo off or vomit your deck onto the board and win, as a core part of your game plan.Usually only works with strangers.
>>98798119Why is it called smol bean though? I've never heard that term in my life
>>98798131Its a meme brain rot term for something that is cute, dumb, and harmless that got brought to magic through internet osmosis.
>>98798110>smol beanPretending to be lower on the threat ladder than you actually are. Annoying and should be called out loudly. >veggiesMildly gay term for stuff you should be including in your deck but think are boring, like removal and draw.
>>98797679>pedophile
>>98796919It would derail the thread.
>>98798150It didn't with the few people who did. not like we are really on track right now as it is.
>Buy some bootleg cards off printing proxies>Joke backs so they're not counterfeits just for fun with friends>Get some joke ones for my friend's battlebox like blasphemous act with socks and sandels>They arrive>In a very thin padded bag that's ripped in a few places>Inside the cards have just been shoved into a plastic bag without so much as a rubber band around them to keep them together>Warped as fuck because obviously they had a difficult journey to get hereJesus christ, just put them into a little storage box. I would have even taken a rubber band to hold them together.Anyone got a better website, I was looking at MakePlayingCards at least there they have packaging options.
>>98798084the drill bit portion of a rakdos party is never boring even though it's all about boring, get it?
>>98798176heh
Oh jokes, I get jokes
>>98798142>>smol bean>Pretending to be lower on the threat ladder than you actually are. Annoying and should be called out loudly.no fun allowed
What are some big creatures I can put in Vigorbloom?
>>98798200"Smol Bean" is only bullshit because it's intentionally misrepresenting the board. Table politics is messy enough without lying about your cards.Players should normalize identifying as a threat:Yes my commander wins by commander damage, no they are not just a funny little guy, yes you are correct to Imprison them in the Moon, no I still get to play, yes I can still win, no you are not safe.
What are some commanders with this vibe
>>98798231Anyone you want to make look like that with a proxy. For a real card maybe? I don't know the character so all I see is dancing.
>>98798062Medallions are only useful if you're repeatedly casting multiple spells of that color in a single turn, otherwise it's worse than a mind stone (i.e. reducing the cost of one red spell by 1 is less useful than producing 1 mana). Not many decks are going to do that, so even in monocolor it needs to be a deck that's vomiting cards out. Outside of monocolor it's only worth it in storm decks.
>>98798205Trelasarra, Moon Dancer gets big fast and Felidar Sovereign is aight
>>98796452any of the decks @ MSRP are a good buy generally >>98797125there is a better mono white anthem anon...its one of the mods I put in the new Angels pre-con (pic rel)
>>98797672But impact tremors or gatekeeper will finish the game if they're on the board when ganax and draconic visitor are on the board.
>>98797672burnished hart has been outclassed by Pony Boy. and no, effects that ping all opponents for one are the easiest way to win in commander. black mage's rod, al bhed salvagers, Mirkwood bats are all great black cards that do it and mono red has even more>>98797204dont listen to that guy that pinging all opponents for 1 is bad. its a good effect if its repeatable. but the other card recommends are good, ruby medallion, fire crystal, wayfair bauble, pony boy (instead of B-Hart)
>>98795834this is dope, I guess I missed this card (I wasn't playing for a bit when the DnD sets replaced the core sets half a decade ago). so the triggered ability from the fire breathing doesn't count as commander damage but the fire breathing itself certainly can pump him up big. how do you do it? Jeska's Will with like an Anvil of Bogardan thats been up awhile?
Recommend me an interesting commander to build around. I favor black, blue, and red. Jank preferred
>>98798294>burnished hart has been outclassed by Pony Boywhile 4 mana for a cultivate is 'probably' better than 6 for an explosive vegetation, they ultimately have different effects.
>>98798294>burnished hart has been outclassed by Pony BoyBurnished Hart still has the benefit of being able to be used the moment you have the mana for it. Troop Of Ponies needs the mana and needs to be able to tap.
>>98798323In line with the TQ I suggest this guy. I'm sure there's some way to make him work.
>>98798294>burnished hart has been outclassed by Pony Boy. >no artifact synergy>summoning sickness>cultivate rather than explosive vegetationread the cards anon
>>98798323this general brings back the mana burn rule and then you add a bunch of cards (red has them) that doubles mana from lands like Mana Flare and shit like Mana Web. although its a bummer cards like Piracy are in blue that effetely make players want to tap out their lands in response (mana web ends up with a similar effect though).
>>98798336need black or even blue for some big power minus shenanigans
>>98798345garrukdoubters in shambles
>>98798323Do you like Goad but better?
>>98798350but it's not
>>98798333I just think its a lot better for early turn fixing >>98798328>>98798338I forgot BHART was sac not tap + sac but still if you've already got 6 mana to do that in one go, youre not doing too bad. granted for a big dragon fuck that costs 6(+) which the main commander for the new red deck is you're going to want more land for interaction. >>98797204if youre using GANAX instead of the stock commander, to get the dude out t2 even in lower level pods go mountain> sol ring (t1) then t2 seething song into your commander. definitely add this to the deck (pic rel)
>>98795834>>98795834Based anon. Please share a list I’m always looking to make it better. I only played one match with mine so far, but I did win due to caged sun.
>>98798513where'd you get that copy of gauntlet of might from?
>>98798554Just a lgs
>>98798279and you are not allowed to play it
>bad moon in the black precon>good moon bannedreally makes u think
>wotc being racist in the 90's when printing crusade>based>wotc being just as racist today when banning crusade>noo not like thatevery time
>>98797335Well I'm gay, if that matters.
>>98798770crusade is not racist however
>>98798770>Depictions of historical events are racist because it's the history of ChristianityYwnbaw
>>98796970HOOOOOOLY
>deal 1 damage >have two enchantments that says "if a red source would deal damage it deals double that damage"What happens here? Does the damage, enchantment 1 then enchantment 2 trigger?
>>98796970GOOBA
>>98798984that's a replacement not a trigger
>>98798990But what happens when I have two?
>>987989911 damage is dealtone replacement doubles 1 to 2the second replacement doubles 2 to 4
>>98796970that demonic tutor needs correction
Gobbochad needs to post his entire deck and tell me how to make my own
The most important thing to remember about damage doublers is combat damage for trample is assigned before the damage is dealt.If you have a 6/6 with trample that does double damage being blocked by a 5/5, the creature is assigned 5 damage which is doubled, and the player is assigned 1 damage, which is doubled.
>assuming your opponent doesn't play anything on their turn>https://youtu.be/MkIu2fpX9Ug?t=155Why the FUCK would we ever assume the opponent won't play cards??
>>98798991If they both say double the damage, first 1>2 then 2>4If you also had another card that added a static damage boost like pic related you choose the order of replacement effects so1+2>6 then 6>12 (though you could be a weirdo and order it 1>2 then 2>4 +2>6 if you're feeling retarded)
>>98798996>>98799015How do I abuse doubling with the concept of exponential growth to really skullfuck my opponents for daring to play?
>>98799019Lightning, doublers, double strike, and extra combats.
There should be a way to give first strike creatures an additional normal strike without giving double strike because double strike feels like I'm wasting first strike
Give creatures with first strike that gain double strike triple strike
>>98799049The counterpoint is that such a keyword would do literally nothing by itself because it's reliant on the target having first strike.
What do I do if I play monored to avoid bluefags and such removing all my shit and countering me?
>>98799090Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast are your best friends
>>98799070just make it so if you give first strike to a first strike creature it gets double strike1+1=2 math checks out
>>98799090Take the Gruul pill and play Choke
what would fix her? trample or haste?
>>98799132Haste so you can fuck over that retard looking at his phone and not paying attention until his turn
>>98799132>Fix herShe's pretty good desu
>>98799090Cast hexing squelcher then cast pic related
>Already seeing cEDH playTruly incredible how a creature with, functionally, no text is one of the best commanders in the game solely by turning on all the poorly-designed cards that treat controlling your commander as an impossibly difficult task.
>>98799224>1drop 5cyep that's all it takes
>>98797928I don't get it, how does this tie in to Gruul?
>>98794372>what's your best mono red pile?Imodane was glass cannon, it won easily or it didn't do anything. Wasn't fun to play but was fun to put together.
>>98797820>>98798310>>98798513This is my list at least as of a few months ago, the paper deck might have changed a tad, things like The Legend of Roku are too good to pass up despite being UB. The key card really is Sigil of Distinction, you can equip it to Inferno, get him to 20 to blast someone, then pay to equip it again to Inferno, going down one charge counter and therefore down one power, then it's only one red to blast someone again, for as many times as you can use Sigil's equip ability.https://moxfield.com/decks/_xkFZ14hAkWBfw1lwuRFWwThanks for sharing yours, I think I can improve mine a lot as well.
>>98799253it's innistrad not ravnica
>competitive magic>look inside>angle shooting>deliberately playing slow to go to turns>deliberately forcing draws>stupid shit like hiding your creatures in your lands>pretending not to know what card your opponent is targetingCasual it is, mtg is NOT a competitive game and never will be
>>98799329Doesn't help that tournament policy explicitly allows you to "mislead" your opponent.
>>98799332This is why Yugioh is better
>>98799332I don't mind this to the extent of bluffing, like pretending you have the god counterspell ready to go but you're actually holding a hand of lands, that's a natural and even fun part of the gameBut it can go too far, you shouldn't be allowed to lie or mislead about a cards text. If your opponent asks about a card, you should have to read all the text.
>>98799335People will think that statement is a joke, but it's true. Konami just updated the deckbuilding costs of 316 cards in Genesys while WotC is out here saying that a Rhystic Study ban would complicate the format's identity too much.
I have my own issues with YGO, but I will firmly defend its text. Yes the meme is that there's a lot of text, but honestly, not really, 95% of cards have less text than a single tweet, and most of the text is just clarifying things like when you can and can't special summon it, where it goes when it dies etc. Play it for a bit and you'll start to understand the language of the game pretty fast. Reading the card genuinely does explain the card in YGO, unlike banding, flanking, horsemanship, mutate, et al Magic
>>98799346Yugiohs text issue is caused by a refusal to use keywords.A "Flying, Vigilance, Trample, first strike, Ward 2" would be a ton of text without keywords.
>>98799346What do you mean bro? It's way more reasonable to expect someone to memorize which types are outlaws.
>>98799354I guess, but it really isn't a problem if you aren't illiterate, and like I said, you get a feel for the cards after a bit, a lot of them have the same text about restrictions on special summoning, exile, etc
>>98799329>>98799332>you get to call out slow play just like in 60card>draws should be counted as losses>revealing your hand to everyone on demand should be akin to discarding your hand on demand and should be a DQable action>hey, this is just like how cedh is done outside of tournaments!there, i fixed (tournament)cedh
>>98799327that doesn't make any sense
>>98799361>revealing your hand to everyone on demandlolwut?
>>98799365yes that's how a lot of draws are made in the first place
>>98799374How are you revealing your hand without a card forcing it though?
>>98799379By voluntarily doing it.
>>98799383But you aren't allowed to volunteer information from your hand, and that's a retarded move anywayAre you guys seriously house ruling you play with open hands?
>>98799379you quite literally just show itusually done if you're trying to convince people that you are in a kingmaking position and it would be best if everyone drew instead or at least keep the game going>yes it sounds really dumb but that's how cedh is run in the west
>>98799385>But you aren't allowed to volunteer information from your hand, and that's a retarded move anywayyes it is incredibly dumb>Are you guys seriously house ruling you play with open hands?that's the thing, nobody does this, because even casuals know that revealing your hand on demand is incredibly dumb
>>98799385>But you aren't allowed to volunteer information from your handThis isn't enforceable.
>>98799394Yes it is
>>98799395How would you prove it is intentional that I accidentally held my hand backwards or dropped it?
>>98799396>perfectly capable of motor control>except in this one instance because uhhhI just don't understand why you people are doing thisDo you also have a rule saying lands tap for any colour?
>>98799399So you have no way to prove it.
>>98799396>i accidentally drew a card guys, oopsie>you can't prove i'm cheating!
>>98799401Who are you going to tell? The store owner? The TO that doesn't exist? The other people in the pod who have no motive to turn down a free advantage? You also can't stop people from just naming the cards in their hand.
>>98799385>you aren't allowed to volunteer information from your handwhy not?
>>98799400Why you would even do this is beyond me, but your hand cannot turn 180 degrees anywayYou could just get good instead of trying to cheat in the most retarded way
>>98799407Because.
>>98799406>naming the cards in their handI have a Black Lotus, Mox Diamond, Wheel of Fortune and Rhystic Study, your turn
>>98799408I have routinely done this where I accidentally have my cards backwards and have been showing the table and didn't notice. Happened just last tuesday.
>>98799407Because of the rulesSame reason I can't just slap down my entire deck and call GG right there
No opponent would turn down free info and no player is going to report themselves. There is no one to call out the supposed violation.
>>98799406>You also can't stop people from just naming the cards in their hand.i have FoW, FoN, swat, silence, and veil of summer in my handyou will totally believe me on this
"damn we need to kill his commander who has removal?""I do.""DQED YOU CAN'T GIVE OUT INFORMATION"who plays like this?
>>98799421>They could be lyingAnd if you are you're going to get targeted likely for as long as you play with that group because deal breaking is one of the biggest social sins of commander. This is like saying you're just going to tell a guy "Yeah I won't kill you" then break the deal and kill him.No one is going to play with you.
>>98799420>with perfect info, people are inclined to draw>and that's why draws should be losses
>>98799422You're being intentionally obtuse, which I think is a first for 4chan.Bluffing about cards in hand for gain is fine and fun, actually revealing what you have is just retardedIf they seethe after you bluffed just hit them with picrel
>>98799422No one. I have never met a person who enforces this rule. This discussion is dumb.
>>98799424Wouldn't this create pairing issues when you have tournaments where matches have only losers?
Exactly, no one would ever lie in politics, that's absurd. No one would ever make a deal for a one turn gain only to turn around and gain the advantage, that's inconceivable.
>>98799423>No one is going to play with you.they can always lie to me back, you knowwhich is perfect, because that's the whole point of keeping hands hidden in the first placedeals just unnecessarily drag the game on and makes for terrible tournament logistics, just look at how rog ishai plays
>>98799432I have never actually seen someone break a deal in a commander game after half a decade of playing.
>>98799431not an issue for japan cedh
You guys would completely crumble if you played Coup or literally any bluffing game
>made up issue that no one in the wild would ever care about
>>98799435>you remove that thing that's a massive threat to me, and you'll be safe, trust me broHmmm alright>thing gets removed>i'm safe from one opponent>then kill the opponent i made the deal with now that his usefulness has endedNothing personal kid
>>98799442My pod would just DQ you if you broke a deal. We'd consider it on the same level as randomly drawing half your deck "because"
my favorite thing to do is to slide a card from my hand to an opponent to look at and act smug
>>98799343Konami genuinely just puts actual effort into their game. From every angle they do if better. Magic survives on its legacy more than anything else.
>>98799444>you can totally show your hand even though it's against the spirit of the game having hidden information>but if you break a deal it's totally against the spirit of the game
>>98799444>broke a dealNo deals in games are binding unless stated so in the rules. The entire point of the wheeling and dealing is to gain advantage by a combination of trickery and honesty
>>98799453Guess you'll have to find another pod. I don't know any at my LGS that would allow you though if you freak out about people sharing info.
>>98799454That's cool and all but we are going to keep playing this game as if you are no longer in it. Fuck you gonna do? Start a physical confrontation with multiple people and get killed?
>>98799455>I don't know any at my LGS that would allow you though if you freak out about people sharing info.well of course nobody freaks out, there's nothing at stakethey'll start freaking out when draws are finally tagged as losses
Do commander players genuinely not understand the concept of a player vs player game? What is this wholesome chungus bullshit about never tricking the enemy or hiding information?
>>98799459>Fuck you gonna do?nothing, because everyone else already agreed with me and left (You) behind lol
Do commander players genuinely not understand the concept of a player vs player game? What is all this "THE SPIRIT OF THE FORMAT! THIS IS UNFUN" bullshit about wiping out lands?
>>987994669/10 of the commander player pool are whiney manbabies that complain if you don't let them 'do their thing'Part of the reason why we have the shitty ass bracket system in the first place
>>98799466sheldon and the damage his hugbox mentality put on the game lingers on>>98799473cedh allows mld btw, it just happens to suck other than blood moon and contamination
I see the fundamental issue, for some reason, certain commander players trust their opponent. Why you'd ever do this is beyond me, your opponent is nothing but a lying, deceitful bastard looking to destroy you. To trust him is folly.
>>98799476All levels should allow MLD since it is part of the game and this is PVP
>>98799478Do you lie to cops as well? People often don't lie when there are consequences. You can get in trouble for doing this. A person may get angry with you in person. No one can stop you from randomly screaming slurs, either, but don't cry when people hurt you over it.
>>98799481standard doesn't allow black lotus but vintage doessame thing with lower brackets not allowing mld but cedh allowing it, instead of a card it's a whole definition of cards
>>98799487>consequences>zero stakes game Again, do not trust your opponent. I don't play fighting games and think "wow I'm sure this Hazama won't do anything tricky and bullshit and will play fairly and honestly"
>>98799487>lying in a children's card game is just like lying to the police!calm down anon it's not that deep
No games: The general
>>98799478It's just a game. It's not a big deal. Especially since you should be playing with friends. You should all be playing to win but you lie even once and you'll never see the end of it. And why the fuck would you want to lie to your friends during a game where your here to hang out? Fuck, even if it's just strangers at a game store it's weird. It's a game.
you can lie but you can't break your word
>>98799500the original post was about how tournament cedh should be runhow did you construe this to also mean your weenie hut jrs pod?
>>98799497You can say a lot about EDH but struggling to find games is not one of them.
>>98799529
I played Werewolf with some friends and they had the sheer gall, the absolute nerve to lie to my face, literally lie, directly to me. Then they didn't reveal their roles, well needless to say I kick that chud out of my group
I remember we had a guy in our pod one time that would always put his hand in your face whenever you were reading what your card does then he would just pick it up and read it himself.
>>98794603This is probably reflected in your win rate
If any of you fat retards have ever actually played competitive card games you would know that the standard is that you have to let your opponents read your cards, but you do not have to explain what it does or even say anything at all.
>>98799649EDH isn't competitive.
>watch a "rules your group gets wrong" video>one of them is how deathtouch and trample works>if you block a deathtouch creature that has high power with multiple blockers, it applies damage to each blocker and has deathtouchWow, amazing, so a creature with deathtouch, has deathtouchTruly brilliant stuff
>>98799649Genuinely wondering if a lot of commander players don't play anything PvPThe shit I read here is actual nonsense, playing with hands open, no heckin bluffing allowed, no feelsbad un-wholesome moments
>>98795565>>98795391Do you anons know any mono-white cards that trigger anything by having a counter put on it/a creature you control?
>>98799659Wrath of God seems to trigger my opponents
>>98799663kek
>>98799657PVP is shit.
>>98799670Yeah good thing Magic isn't a PvP game you fucking retardI thought blue players were supposed to be smart
>>98799670pussy
What's the difference between battlecruiser and voltron (which should actually be called Golion but I digress) styles?
>>98799675>Yeah good thing Magic isn't a PvP gamebut it is, and no amount of gaslighting from sheldon will change what garfield put in the game's dna since 1993
>>98799682Voltron tries to murder people with their commander as the main game plan and battlecruiser is just a pile of terrible high cmc cards that you like.
>>98799684I was being sarcastic, scientists need to focus their efforts on finding a way to make sarcasm come across via text. That second part WASN'T sarcasm btwalso I still don't know who the hell Sheldon is,
>>98799693sheldon (who's dead) was the main reason edh exploded the way it didunforunately he made questionable bans, did not exercise authority when he should've, and foolishly believed that people could self regulate themselves, which only meant that people would just play in their basements forever, his faulty logic is only starting to be excisedit'll take some time, but we'll get there
>>98799652>EDH isn't competitive, that's why there are banned cards
>>98798582who says? I foresee no issue, and will take no action other than playing the card. >>98798562so you paid like $500 bucks for gauntlet?>>98799010and also by extension if you have death touch you can assign only 1 fatal base damage to the creature and the rest trampling over, and then account for doubling effects. >>98798991if you've ever played digital magic like MTGO it helps you visual each of these triggers as events that you then can choose to have sequentially resolve. but yeah like everyone else saying, there is two doubling triggers on the stack that are cumulative. >>98799049the best use of first strike is as a combat trick. >>98799090yes as the direct reply to you REB/pyro and all the other effects that change ability of target spell or ability. deflecting swat, reverberate, FORK. when you change the target of the counterspell, the counterspell itself its not a legal target. you change it to the the redirect spell, so your original spell doesnt get countered and then the counter fizzles because the redirect resolves first and it now has no legal target.
lowercase mass replier is becoming my favourite anon
>>98799702Given that Sheldon thought the problem card was Protean Hulk and not Flash, I suspect he knew that if he was more active he would have been outed as a retard.
>>98799746he was particularly mad when he finally banned flash too, funnily enough
I feel like I should play other deck types but I can't help it, I just love aggro and burn too much
>wizards ever using flavour text from a white, christian author againWill never, ever happen
>>98799049imagine
>>98799784>last-strike
>>98799787yesit's self explanatory
>>98799791That flavour text is genuinely better than 90% of nu-cards
What colour should I go for land destruction and resource denial? Is it even possible to effectively do that in one colour?
>>98799839
>>98799851You are crazy if you think I'm playing a card called fucking Fing Fang Foom
WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE CHARACTERSTHEY DIDN'T SHOW UP IN THE HOBBIT
>>98799853then call him 'He Whose Limbs Shatter Mountains and Whose Back Scrapes the Sun'
>>98799884I can't call a card my own name
>>98799862>he doesn't remember the multiracial trio of hobbits that show up at the end of the Hobbit and add one hobbillion colorless manaI bet you didn't even read the Silmarillion, n00b
>>98799889I loved the part after Smaug dies when the Company and everyone else shares the riches equally in a socialist utopia and the battle of Five Armies doesn't happen because all the evil in the world was killed forever
>>98798782>>98798823WOTC is racist for banning a non-racist card and that's basedsince when was it not cool to be racist?
>>98799947jihad is no more racist than the dog eating chinks you get your fakes from, you baizuo tranny
Well I'm fine with the eating dogs, but don't you dare bluff in a card game
ack save me sheldon
>>98799958can you not read? none of the cards are racist and wotc banning them makes them racist for seeing the cards as something they aren'tand racists are cool
>>98799975ok you're cool nowand this gypsy is hotter than 99% of all modern mtg wahmen
Is burn and aggro the same?
I play Commander at the LGS regularly because it is my social outlet, but honestly my TCG passion lies with playing Yugioh Masterduel. Learning a new Yugioh deck is much more compelling than learning a new deck in Commander.
>>98799995I checked out of MD with Maliss, shit got too unfun and ridiculous. Has it got better?
>>98799989burn = win by dealing damage directly to the opponent's face, with spells like lightning bolt or fireball, or with other effects aggro = win by positioning aggressively and spending resources quickly, often associated with attacking some aggro decks are also burn decks. a lot of burn decks are also aggro decks, but not all. sometimes a burn win strategy is more focused on finding specific combo pieces than it is on aggression. sometimes the "burn" deck kinda wins by just existing, like zo-zu. but it's always about affecting player's life totals (and their creatures) with direct damage. that's what makes it burn also burn and aggro are more relevant strategies in 1v1 magic. they certainly exist in edh but the format discourages it somewhat.
>>98799989aint aggro usually combat damage while burn is noncombat damage?
>>98798997>I can save her
>>98800014I am the wrong person to ask that question, because I look back on Maliss in Masterduel fondly. Maliss released in MD in summer 2025, that was the same time the Final Fantasy set released in Magic, and for me I was super butthurt about Universes Beyond, it was the first UB set in MTG-Standard format, I stopped playing Magic entirely and just played Yugioh full-time, learning the Maliss deck inside and out. (I only warmed up to the Final Fantasy set after some time had passed, but when it released I didn't like it because butthurt).Turns in Yugioh still take a long time if that's what you are asking.
>>98800028MLD Commander?
>>98799995I only played Krawlers which require 0 learning so I can't relate but I love my bugs a lot
What the fuck are you idiots saying, you can reveal any hidden information you have, whenever you want, according to mtg rules. That means you absolutely can show the kaalia player your swords to plowshares before combat and politic with it
>>98800192>That means you absolutely can show everyone that you can kingmake therefore the pod should draw, just like the 3 other cedh matches you had today
>>98800224yeah so it turns out cedh kinda sucks and that's a major reason why I didn't read the thread for context, is that the point someone was making? because if so then that person is right
>>98800224Turns out edh is not a good competitive format just like any other ffa game with player interaction
>>98800234jp cedh tags draws as losses and is better for it
Honest thoughts?
tribal slop
>>98800272Just play a good elf commander instead.
>>98800272Thematically I love Elves and I want to play as them more. In practice, they end up being spikier/sweatier than I am comfortable playing. I can't take the heat, so I rarely play Elves.I have two Lathril decks, one is just the precon unmodified, and one is cEDH try-hard with proxies. My personal style is I'd rather sand-bag and be the underdog instead of being the biggest threat at the table, so I have more fun with the precon version of the deck. It also helps the pre-game talk by mentioning "it's just a precon". I'm just a weirdo like that though.Elves are good. Sometimes they are too strong. Sometimes they collapse after a boardwipe and struggle to rebuild.
>>98800272elf tribal is a good excuse to run pretty tokensyou even get some ryona too when you send them to die chump blocking so your losses are actually still wins
>>98800306>Slop>PrettyPick one
Are you guys gonna goy out and buy one? 250 usd is pretty steep but considering that it’s 24 packs of 20 cards each and they’re full of mechanically interesting cards it could be worth it.>https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-heads-south-with-festival-in-a-box-atlanta-2026-and-mystery-booster-commander-edition?_gl=1*10v0bxw*_up*MQ..*_ga*NDQ5MTY2MjU2LjE3OTE0NzA0MTI.*_ga_X145Z177LS*czE3OTE0NzA0MTEkbzEkZzAkdDE3OTE0NzA0MTEkajYwJGwwJGg1MTE5OTE2ODE.
>>98799473these people don't get into the game on the premise of an interesting fantasy resource management system, they get in on the premise of WAOW SPIDERMAN WINS THE GAME!!!!!
>>98800332i guess...mostly because me and the buds really enjoyed drafting the last mystery booster. but man....
https://www.ign.com/articles/magic-the-gathering-warhammer-40k-commander-decks-reprint-confirmedKino is back
>>98800365Time for -UB spergs to roll out the “but it’s an IP I like to larp so it’s okay” cope.
>>98800365Oh that is cool, the prices on some of those cards were getting retarded for no reason.
Bro how is this not just better than Zhulodok?It does the same thing except arguably better because it doesn't have the "from hand restriction" and it has access to two of the best colors in the game.
>>98800306Got some more?
just arrived from work I want to chime in>attack you with huge creature anon>I have swords, you sure?>naah you're bluffing>pluck swords out my hand and show him>ok ok I attack someone else...this is controversial because? its's certainly not illegal
>>98800473It's pretty gay to just force them to attack someone else by flashing a card in your hand, yes. Saying you might have "something" is fine, flashing swords to have him just attack ben who has missed 3 land drops in a row is faggy.
>>98800566it's his decision tho, he can still attack and risk losing the creature, if he pities ben who we just made up into the story btwand not an illegal move on my part
>>98800599Okay. He won't.And the game is going to stall because no one will play their important pieces or attack because you slowed the game down by showing information that didn't need to be shown "It's not illegal"No shit, you are a legal faggot though.
>>98800614slowly approaching the inevitable death of the format as people realize cedh play patterns are the free-for-all game theory optimum
>>98800614idk sounds like baby's first magic 101. Someone could mystical tutor for swords and if the game stops because of it seems more like a problem with everyone else. In this situation I would attack with my thing and get the removal out their hand, if they had it they had it and I need to adjustseems like you're just looking for things to be mad about
>>98800645Everyone learned about dicks in health class, doesn't mean randomly flashing your dick isn't faggot behavior.
>>98800638It's honestly one of many the reasons competitive commander shouldn't be taken seriously until it's sanctioned with rules in place to prevent 11 hour durdling and other childish faggot behaviors
>>98800706sitting and amassing resources rather than pushing for win is the inevitable optimum when you're facing three opponents and how the stack works
>>98800365Which one did reaver titan come in?
>>98800745The esper one, with the really good do-nothing commander and some solid other items like the "your commander has pretext from everything" guy, Celestine and the reanimator sororitas, some squad marines, and that commisar.
>got Kwia Vigorbloom off a random packHow do I terrorize my table with it
look how they massacred my boy
>>98801068By putting it in the 99 of an actually good Selesnya lifegain deck.
>>98801068Play him as your commander and use all your lotuses to cast the largest Dawnglow Infusion in the history of magic.
>>98801176They can't fit the oracle text on a modern card so they just printed it textless
>>98801449>They can't fit the oracle text on a modern card so they just printed it textlessWhy not?The oracle text is almost the same as Animate Dead, just with an extra line about the untap cost
Uchbenbak anon you still lurking? How's the deck looking
>>98798991Important to note that the player taking the damage chooses the order in which they apply each replacement effectso they double, double, then add whatever's left if you have any "deal an additional x damage" shit
>>98801517Animate Dead is already pushing it and there's two additional lines
>>98801253With how bad my friends are at ending games that's a very real possibility
>>98801628That sounds fantastic, I wish I had a group like that.
>>98801663Personally I wish we could do more than one game per evening
>>98801708Cherish these times
>>98799702KWADB
>>98799725It was like $380 usd. It was moderately played but I was able to Qtip to wipe a lot of the crud off. I like to pick up a good reserve list card once a year.
I just found out that EDHfags think yo can only scoop at sorcery speed. People are house ruling all sorts of insane shit, I doubt commander players even know the rules. This is genuine insanity
>>98802075How would they stop you from leaving?
https://x.com/Random_Rend/status/1900205210691146046
>>98802182>can only be viewed on an appwhat the fuck is this shit?
>>98799002>Tell me how to make my ownWhat exactly do you need help with?
>>98802188Aww man
>>98802188Some really badly drawn futa art of magic characters or something.
>>98802205But like, since when did twitter do that? This is the first time I've seen it demand I put this shit on a phone to see a post.
>>98802075It's polite to scoop at sorcery speed. However, that's not in the comprehensive rules.>Oh God guys, I think I'm having a heart attack, call an ambulance >'fraid not friend, I'm holding priority.
>>98800473People who back away from that attack are cowards and deserve to feel bad. I don't negotiate with terrorists, and full swing, including my value pieces at the faggot.
>>98802075Could I scoop at instant speed when my homie casts white Dack Fayden to stop his gay little combo
>>98802251I mean. Not really. as long as he can blink dack once there's a pretty good chance he'll get to his combo lines anyway, and even with one opponent the deck is set up to always hit a creature that can blink him, to find the next, to find the next etc.
scooping is a special action that does not use the stack
Yes I'm going to scoop whenever I want. No you can't stop me.
Remember kids, all permanents you own cease to exist when you scoop, even if your opponents control themUse this to your advantage to spite the theft/reanimator player you hate!
>I board wipe>I Tefari's your board wipe >Okay, it resolve. Now I scoop>Uh, okay I didn't cast Tefari's then>No, you did, it resolved>NO IM NO WASTING MY TPRO
If i have your permanents under my control, scooping creates replacement token permanents that are exiled from the battlefield or stack at whenever i think is reasonable timing
>>98802251You realize slotting interaction is usually easier, right?
>>98802451LATE BAKE>>98802451
>oh this is a non deterministic combo?>yeah i scoop>no you don't get to induce me to 10 minutes of your solitare>Im gonna go smoke a cigg while I wait for next game
