Fuck UB EditionPrevious: >>98862049>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png (embed)https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png (embed)>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What is your favourite card?
if I flicker her while having another attacking creature, does she come back in attacking or does she have to be on the field for the replacement effect to work on only others?
Gobanon, I took another stab at the skeleton for Gut, this time I made an effort to actually make it look like it belonged to her rather than a generic token.
Trek showing banger after banger
>>98869073>(((bajoran)))Ew.I mean UB is already gross, but that really kicks it up a notch.
>>98869073I didn't think they'd ever print something like this. That's wild. First Trek card so far I've been interested in. Reason to bring out Grave Titan again. Just to be sure, if a thing quipped with Wand Of Orcus has double strike or first strike, this would make the zombies that the damage trigger generates enter attacking in time for regular combat, right?
Have you guys played 2 colors without fetchlands? Is it like night and day?
>TQIt's a tie between Oloro or Ojer Axonil
>>98869056>TQ:Avacyn, Angel of HopeShe might be babbys first MTG waifu but dammit I still love her
>>98869061Yeah I've played 5c without actual fetches, they are good especially if you play with the top of your deck but far from required Most of the time panoramas or the mh3 landscapes are good enough for color fixing
>>98869132yesthey printed a card in tmnt that first strikes to steal an attacker from the opponent's graveanything that enters that way can only do regular strike damage though and anything that enters after that will be attacking thin air
>>98869056>TQwinter orb and 2nd place isn't even close
Trek making GOATed cards
>>98869168Damn, what you used? All checklands and triplets?
>>98869228the way they're making a legendary card for EVERY single character to appear on more than one episode in the entire franchise actually communicates fear that UB is a mistake and they'll never get to return to any of this for a second chance.No design space is being left untouched.
>>98869245Depending on the deck Id throw the bounce lands in too Same with pain landsBasically any time there's decent lands in standard I pick up a playset The reveal lands have legs in 2 color, fast lands, slow lands, filter lands, check lands, tango landsIn two color especially you can get away with having like 20 basics especially if you know you lean on one color more than the other
>>98869174Thanks. I figured that would work that way but I wanted to be sure. Definitely the kind of card that makes me want to recheck my bulk for.
I come from the futureThe newest jeskai commander "double whopper menu with large fries" is making quite a ruckus in edhFortunately you can counter its ability with the new artifact, "nike air jordan 1 retro high", which has been reprinted to hell and is only the cost of a loaf of bread, $137
>>98869271Yeah like how making a card for Tom Bombadil meant they thought they wouldn't get to do another LotR set, right?
>>98869318That's a nice strawman mr. apples-to-oranges, your statement that has nothing to do with what I said totally trumps my assertion.
>>98869301Damn that sounds terrible, I hope things get better for you in 2028
>>98869301Speaking of RuckusThe Boondocks set is fucking fire
Surely you're going to put this in your deck right?
>>98869343Idk how people still get this wrongBoondocks, while a large SL, was not a full setYou know, like the Heroes of the Revolution SL
>>98868096I think I'll replace (or include this in addition to) idyllic tutor with this in my sythis list, thanks for sharing. I don't think it's so odd that an uncommon from the latest set is still rather cheap. Also, 3 mana tutors are pretty slow, all things considered. Enlightened tutor is the gold standard and it's 1 mana and at instant speed, and it is card advantage negative like this creature is as well, idyllic tutor is a direct one for one by comparison. I'm interested in this because it's a green creature which means it can be searched up with Green Sun's Zenith which idyllic tutor can't, and having more options for your toolbox is always good.>>98869347Funny that this works with mana abilities. I don't think it's impactful enough to matter most of the time though. Best case you name a repeatable ability that they intend to use a lot, but barring that you get maybe 1 bolt a turn against one guy.
>>98869352And frankly, it had nothing on the Desperate Housewives SL, those girls absolutely wreck at the table.
>>98869347Can you name the Empower Jace Joken?
>>98869378No, that is not a card name it is a token.
>>98869352The heroes of the revolution is 100% going to be a secret liarHoly shit google sucks so bad I can't even find the che guevara RK Post token Get your shit together alphabet
I just get a annoyed every time I see something from Nu-Trek since it always sticks out like a sore thumb visually compared to stuff from the "prime" timeline, even the Enterprise stuff is guilty of this. I'll gladly defend Lower Decks as the only thing to come out of that era that actually looks and feels like Trek but throwing designs lifted straight from the cartoons next to depictions of real actors just clashes and looks out of place. I'm sure it was part of the contract but having characters from STD or Picard next to Sisko or Janeway is just Paramount trying to gaslight people into thinking that anyone remembers or enjoyed any of those shows.
>>98869378Is there a card whose name is Empower Jace, anon?
>>98869381>>98869387Sorry im new. Damn. It was either that or Treasure as something universal-ish.So tokens aren't cards in the way that the game defines them?
>>98869073pls respond. I'm pretty sure you have to have her on the field for the effect to kick in so flickering her after blockers but before damage wouldn't make her an unblocked attacker but I wanna make sure
>>98869274And how do you calculate how many you need? Its still around 34 without fetchlands?
>>98869332Your argument doesn't even make sense.>Uh they made a card for one of the most iconic characters of the original series. This means they think they'll never get another chance to make another setHave you considered maybe they're just trying to make a good set?
>>98869408When it says name a card name you can only name, well, cards that you can put in your deck. You can also name the backside of flip cards, as the front and back have different names. But tokens cannot be named for these effects. So no treasures, no food tokens, no clue tokens, etc.
>>98869412I know the answer but I won't respond to UBslop muahaha
>>98869073>>98869412It doesn't work because a flicker goes through this process:>Kira on field (ability active)>Kira is exiled>Kira not on field (ability not active)>Kira enters (replacement window checked)>Kira on field (ability active)Even though this whole process occurs mid-spell, full process still occurs (since otherwise cards like Ephemerate wouldn't do anything).
>>98869073IIRC the only replacement effects that affect how the card itself enters are the ones that say "This [permanent type] enters tapped".
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98869085Subtlety of a sledgehammer.
>>98869455Seething that his "crown jewel" set consisted of the protagonist dying to his own stupidity and the main mechanic being planeswalker tokens.
>>98869431I see. If i instead name something already on field like Gleaming Splendor, whenever the player who controls GS activates the draw ability, Kai Winn will bolt them in the face?
>>98869461What are you talking about?
>>98869428The only set we know for a fact that nobody was trying on was Spider-Man. The problem is how do you make a UB set that isn't 75+% legends?
>>98869466Yes, you can also name gleaming splendor if it wasn't on the field.
>>98869428>UB>good setLmfao.
>>98869476>how do you make a UB set that isn't 75+% legendsThey should have just made most named characters non legendary in ub sets only because there really is no reason for some shitty draft uncommon to be legendary. Sadly they didn't and now we have to suffer 10000 new legendaries per year.
>>98869476In this case focus on a single series in the franchise and you get your dozen or so legends then fill it out with generic klingon warrior, starfleet science officer, romulan spy, etc... with 1 or 2 special mechanics instead of the... ~dozen I think shown so far?This was the most obvious, lowest effort shotgun approach to the franchise possible.Not that they could have done a UB acceptably in any way.
>>98869491Mogs UW set after set but keep burying your head in the sand.
>>98869508this would also be a good approach, picard is a legend in starfleet, no one in-universe really knows who geordi is.
I wonder if we will ever seen universe within versions of UB staples someday through secret lair or if it only goes the other direction
Ha! Dynamite tits gobanon, made it hard to pick between the two versions.
>>98869512They've both been equally shitty ever since that holofoil yugioh oval got put onto cards.wizards has completely abandoned the concept of design space preservation and they are now racing to milk the franchise for every possible bit of worth as fast as possible.
>>98869508>>98869510Considering that the entire concept of UB exists to print more cards for edh I don't see anything changing. The fact that some of them end up actually being solid limited sets are in spite of them being UB. Warhammer Fantasy "not Age of Sigmar" would easily work for an UB set. There's a ton of regular units and monsters for all rarities, it does have gunpowder but it's just early modern warfare but with plenty of sword and sorcery stuff like elves, orks, vampires ect. And theres plenty of named characters but the emphasis was always about building and controlling armies over something like a TV series that needs a constant flow of named characters front and center.
>>98869414I always start at 36 for version 1.0Always cut down to 35 once the identity of the deck becomes better realized and may continue to cut further depending on how many cantrips I play and the curve of the deck. My current lowest deck is 32, highest is 37.
>>98869061two colors doesnt even need duals. when that Smaug scene box came out I through together a quick combo sloppa deck with Pestilence and whatever I had left over. I think Dragonskull Summit and Graven Cairns were the only two nonbasics I had in there. didn't even have an extra command tower. (it was really converted from like a 75% finished Mono red Knuckles/cheerios deck, so no CMD tower needed)it did so great I kept it as is an added Blood Moon to fully capitalize on the basics. now that deck makes a ton of treasures and was leaning hard red anyway but I had no problems. in its current form I've also got a badlands and command tower and sulfurous springs but no shock land or other ones. and added treasure vault. if youre in green you can literally just fetch whatever lands you need. but if you ARE going to use nonbasics make sure theres at least 2 with the basic types for fetching a Forest + blank otherwise Nature's Lore, Wood Elves, Skyshroud Claim are useless in fixing. 3 color absolutely needs non basics though. and then when you get to 5c it comes back around to the most sensible approach being green-forward so you can fetch Forest Plains, Forest Swamp, etc etc. 4 color non-green seems like a nightmare like the new Jace-sloppa. I would lean heavily into white's catch up ramp and grab stuff that looks for plains but not basic plains. (Kor Cartographer, Knight of the White Orchid, Gift of Estates come to mind). >>98868662doing OK really trying to finish the Kwia deck for Saturday's commander night. I've got placeholder cards but I've went to 3 different LGS' in my town looking for certain cards and none of these MF'ers have much of what I'm looking for. how about you?>>98869056>tqthats a hard one for me to answer right off the top of my head. I. would say Bayou because its got a serious vibe and when I play it I slap it onto the table and say "WE"RE GOING DOWN TO THE BAYOUUUUUUUU BOIIIIIIIIIIIII" (pic rel)
>>98869378what kind of games are you playing where Empower Jace is becoming a problem anon? serious question>>98869447this has been debunked>>98869228blue finally getting ramp? but at 4cmc its pretty much useless except for mega leviathans. let me guess the oracle will say "you must follow timing restrictions for these cards". meaning you just screw everyone else's land base up while your land cards fill your hand or discard (useless In mono blue, or most decks in general) to grave while you Peter out random off color lands each turn until you're killed for taking people's lands? maybe im missing it
>>98869073With cards like Adeline or anything with myriad does this card just let you have all the creatures come in attacking one person instead of swinging wide at everyone?
Just found out the girl I've been flirting with for months at work has an onlyfans where she only does BBC gloryholes.Commander for this feel?
>>98869528And yet here you are still paypigging and playing their game. Imagine being as retarded as you are lmao
>>98869665It applies two modifiers to the entering token, and you choose one to be the final modification. So yes.
>>98869628Do you mind if I see your Kwia deck after you finish? I'm building it as well and I don't know if I should put big spells in it due to all the lotus tokens I'll make.
>>98869668Disappointed and disgusted? Selvala the green one
>>98869675Splendid, thank you.
Any under the radar cards for Selesnya? Im building my first Commander deck after getting the Cloud EX- Soldier Precon
>>98869651It's not ramp it's basically shitty mill + play lands normally.
>>98869228>No Caitian>No sexy green womenSooo I'm nonbuynary...
>>98869668How did you find out?
I really love almost all of Sammut's cards but I really hate how ugly she is in all of her art
>>98869736Sure! I love GW you should 100% pick up...>UBOh nevermind
>>98869795Just put some goblins in it instead
>>98869671That's a bold assumption, I havent bought a "real" card since the oval.And what does playing a game I've enjoyed for decades have to do with it? I've voted with my wallet, that's all that matters.
>>98869476Well for starter they can stop print 11 different versions of the same fucking character
>>98869736Gaddock teegDepends on what you're buildingThe populate instants/sorceries from rtrBehemoth sledge is a second, worse loxodon WarhammerHamza
>>98869804Samut is a human not a goblin
>>98869819Doesn't stop goblin anonAlso I'm pretty sure you are wrong about that
I gotta start testing cards before buying themI'm incapable of card assessment by sight alone
>>98869835this was bad wasn't it? I almost got it but realized it's specifically for a reanimator deck with a flying commander
>>98869671tifa anon, I understand you liking final fantasy, lotr, or avatar, but you can't possibly say with honesty this set is looking good
>>98869795She really is one of the best examples of fun effects on a card with shit art you don't want to play.
>>98869795bro you got the monkey curl Íñigo art
>>98869795Same and I built her Driving force version and I hate looking at her
>>98869800The Final Fantasy precons were significantly stronger and had more valuable cards in them than any of the other commander precons and my LGS was selling them at MSRP. How can you fault a new player for choosing the best financial option available to them? Blame Wizards for making those decks have more value
>>988698495 mana is just too much, and frankly I cut inkeyes from all my decks almost a decade agoI just kinda forgot when I was ordering cardsAnother reason to only pick up cards in person but I digress
>>98869775Someone who "worked" with her for content told me about it, so I looked up her page, and yep.
>>98869890Ah yes, the spiritually severed modernist appealing exclusively to their physical condition How pitiful
>>98869736I have several but I do not respond to requests from slopchuggers
>>98869905Well I think my deck is cool and uses a lot of kino cards. If you like thematic decks I use a lot of niche cards
A lot of the "gamechangers" are ridiculous but this one is pretty absurd in particular.
>>98869913I think if you saw my deck and everything you'd say it was ludokino
>>98869919Cope
>>98869939what do you define as a kino deck?
>>98869228>basedjack pointing at vegan chicken
>>98869736If you're going the equipment route Danitha? There's really nothing under the radar for GW, they generally work really well for whatever strategy they're printed for.
>>98869939like really whats wrong with using her as a commander? shes not overpowered and she has a fun ability to build around
>>98869807>crying about something for literal years when everyone from the company to the fandom has happily moved on without youActually pathetic.
personal pet card that i'm scared of wanting to cut, but then i remember the time that i used her to copy Overwhelming Splendor so it was on two of my opponents at once and i'm like ok i guess i have to keep her
>>98869931If aura shards is on the shit list grave pact should be on there as well but no one wants to have that conversation.
>>98869931It's oppressive, not necessarily powerful. Same reason why Augustine is on the list.There needs to be a "power based" game changer list and a "saltiness" game changer list.
>>98870005He likes the vague idea of MtG rather than what the game actually is. You'd be surprised at how many people you can LARP check by asking whether they think this card was a problem or not when it's basically the reason Standard died.
>>98869998Im building around enchantments but there are some equipment in my deck
>>98869932not interested
>>98869795This is one reason I actually like UB/secret lair
>>98870029>He likes the vague idea of MtG rather than what the game actually is.I know what these crybaby antiubfags are and what they want from the game which is why it's a duty and a privilege to point out how big of retarded faggots they are whenever they pop up in these threads.There's lots of struggling TCGs that fit their standards exactly and they would LOVE some fanatical new blood to go haunt their forums and talk about their games but these homos instead waste their time and emotions on a game that has long rejected them in the vague hopes it becomes exactly like a product that already exists but which they refuse to go play and concentrate on. They're the most unpleasant kind of retarded whiners.
>>98869676my highest mana cost spell is Kwia. everything else is 5 or less. most things are 1 or 2. Final Showdown with all the modes chosen would be the the single highest spell. Sunfall at 5 mana is one of the other expensive spells. Well of Lost Dreams is a good mana sink. What I do with it is when you hit someone with Kwia, that lifelink thing will gain you by default 6. I'll let the Lotus token effect resolve first, then immediately sac it and pay 3 to draw 3 on the lifelink trigger. basically converts your lotus into "draw 3 cards". obviously I won't do this if I need the Lotus tokens for something or have cards to cast but its a nice way to refill the hand. you can use an life gain triggers to draw but the small little ones even with 3 soul sisters out would only let you draw 1 card each time technically. so I just do it on lifelink triggers for big stuffbuster sword is in it for casting other spells while allowing me to hold up mana or a lotus for interaction. almost everything is 1 or 2 mana though. soul sisters, fyndhorn elves, GIVER of runes (and not mother of runes, had to cut her because can't protect from Maze of Ith targeting). Bloombrute & Vigorbloom Charm great cards from the set to also include. Thinking of adding the new Ajani as well, but haven't yet. >>98869750yikes. blue gets shat on again. no surprise>>98869736vigor bloom charm is the best charm spell is a long time. like insane value
>>98870050I don't care if they put Adolf Hitler on a card, bullshit not original to MtG has no place in the game.
>>98869676also no game changers in it. but gleaming splendor IS in it. that can be a little bit of mana sink if needed. several spells to hold up like heroic intervention, fog (or holy day), angel's grace, again, vigor bloom charm. TOSKI!!! for another card drawer. sylvan libraryoh yeah the only other 5 mana spell is Baneslayer angel. just another great life linker to have.
>>98869056>TQI fucking love Meteor Golem. Great art, great flavor text, and a solid effect. Especially when played in mono colors that may not have access to the removal he offers easily otherwise. It's the card I try to always find room for in most of my decks.
>>98870075Crazy how much better Ugin is than meteor golem, the price is pretty prohibitive though obviously. i'm sure there's a cheap eldrazi that's 7 mana or roughly that much that does something like meteor golem, i'll see if i can find one. of course the downside with ugin is you miss artifacts, and that most certainly will come up, but every color has artifact removal at this point.
>>98870056Weird how 99% of the playerbase disagrees with you but okay!
>>98870092Meteor Golem has upsides if you're blinking or welding. He has a cool little niche.
>>98869073>>98869665>>98869675
>>98870092I want his fat cock in my ass god he's so hot.
>>98870102That's true, I thought of that after i hit post. Plus he's an artifact. Blinking, reanimating, cheating into play any other way. Plenty of upsides for him, the only thing on cast really beats is counterspells, and a lot of ways you cheat golem into play beat counterspells already anyway lol. Exile is nice for some things though, and obviously ugin replaces himself and if you've got any other artifacts in your list he can be pretty nutty but yadda yadda.Best I could do for under 50 cents at the same cmc is this guy, and well he's green so that's a pretty obvious issue here. You get Ulamog the Ceaseless Hunger at 10cmc for 2 targe permanents exiled on cast, but he's 20 bucks and 10cmc sooo I suppose I misremembered my eldrazi
>>98870075let me introduce you to this badass>>98870092costs $50 more
>>98870113Get off 4chan, Bolas.
>>98870092True. That Ugin is magnitudes more powerful and can run away with a game almost on his own. But I like Meteor Golem for how versatile he is being a creature. Reanimating, blinking, or photocopying a bunch with Orvar. Meteor Golem is the kind of cheap and versatile card I can put in almost every deck and I like that about him.
Kvetching about UB is such a reddit take.
>>98870130>Target permanentMan, I always forget about this one. Destroying anything and it recycles itself is nutty. I only sort of wish it had some flavor text, but still. A pretty solid option in the same vein. I've got to get one for a colorless I've been planning.
>>98870095That's a nice imagination you got there but the "playerbase" is clearly very divided on the issue and that itself speaks volumes because a god number of the "players" were drawn into the game explicitly by the UB bullshit catering to their non-magic interests.That puts the actual base of MtG fans (rather than final fnatasy, 40k, star trek, lotr, etc... fans) as majority hating UB bullshit.
>>98870130love spine of ish sah. welder all star from whenever i played that in a real format
>>98869102urafaggot
Should I build 5 color Karn as a low power modular/colored equipment deck or Karona, town bicycle? Ive never built 5 color before but the latter has always called my name and I have a lot of pieces from an aborted Jan Jansen deck.
>>98870162UB worship is the most reddit take ever tho. The "let people enjoy things" mantra is the large benign tumor on society.
>>98870050I don't care about he-man and that art isn't much better
The rest of the Hazezon deck arrives next week and I can’t wait to try it out in our pod>TQMoment’s Peace, by the time you need a fog (or two) to survive, the cost/flashback is negligible
>>98870264doggy
>>98870264What land is the one to the right of the Taiga called?
>>98869882She's alright in this one
>>98870264how much you pay for those? i'm jellypost hazezon list i've been looking at him. better have a way to recur lots of wastes and strips you'd have my respect
>>98870305Disgusting
>>98869085isn't this just webslingingyeah it's just graveyard webslinging
>>98869829I don't do race swaps, generally.Unless you are taking umbrage with putting them on lands, and in which case, abloo bloo.
>>98870323If I didn't hate starbucks I'd probably throw this in the deck too.That's okay, it's already a good enough list, it doesn't need a bunch of extra nonbasics.
>>98870305hot
https://moxfield.com/decks/3iWfxEvAsEaWoeH04UeaLgDoes this deck look any good? Thinking about ordering it... at least the cards that are not ultra expensive.
>>98870388>at least the cards that are not ultra expensive.>$1900I think we have different definitions of what counts as a budget deck...
>>98870399Those are just some cards like the dual land, deadly rolick, sheoldred, etc.Or maybe it would be better something like this? https://moxfield.com/decks/dMOXxveUr0Ci08tTva1AIAI just don't wanna buy stuff that will be worthless later...
>>98870413>stuff that will be worthless later...Everything will be worthless someday, what matters is whether you will enjoy your transient material possessions.
>>98869228remember to always put chekov into your car and crash it
>>98869931Aura Shards is one of those cards that is so archetype-invalidating against mid tier archetypes like voltron and enchantress that I don't mind it being a game changer. There is no reason for mid tier strats to be hated on this hard, plus it's easy to play it and not realize how badly it removes an entire player from the table
>>98870488I just wanted some advice...no more questions for my shitty life
>>98870056this has been debunked. LOTR Hobbit final fantasy even DnD all have similar influences or in the case of Tolkien inspired the shit. they work well in crossoversStar Trek, TMNT, spooderman makes no fuckin sense. but people have wanted marvel sloppa in magic since 1995>>98870124the colored eldrazi and then it saying "it has no color" is the dumbest most Mark Rosewater homo design of the last 15 years. who the fuck ever let that be a thing?not to mention it isnt eldrazi without annihilator. not that anyone WANTS to play against annihilator, but its part of the terrifying presence of the eldrazi. terrible retarded gimped & cucked follow up to the based OG Zendikar block. lots of parallels to contemporary GōtC>>98870264I need a savannah. how much did that one run you? under 400 I hope
>>98870511and in turn tolkien was inspired by ethnic eruopean religious mythos.Something having an inspiration in another thing is unavoidable, everything in the modern is inspired by something else, nothing exists in a vacuum.That is no excuse for those franchises being brought into magic, magic has it's own unique identity separate from it's inspirations.
>>98870511>people have wanted marvel sloppa in magic since 1995I haven't. Maybe some people somewhere did. Freaks, faggots, and cunts perhaps. Fuck you.
>>98870521yeah the origin of pretty much all high fantasy is King Arthur stories from literally 900 years ago. and theres the Nordic stuff. Japan has their samurai stuffthey all converge. it makes sense for it crossover into magic >>98870526cope, seethe, dilate. not necessarily in that order. you need your anger relief rectal plug like a baby needs their binky
>>98870256That attitude still results in people going "uuuhh I don't like this" like anyone gives a french fuck
>>98870570>king arthur>nordicAll of that owes it's origin to the germanic mythos of 2000+ years ago and that is a development on the even older European mythos that was born of the pontic steppe peoples and the western european peoples being merged millenia before.and even these can be traced back tens of thousands of years ago with origin myths that are depicted in cave art (particularly the cosmic hunt)Nothing on the Earth today is wholly original.Crossover does not make sense, inspiration gives rise to nevlty and the novel imaginings of the unique universe(s) of MtG were wonderful and now they are being held back by selling out to the greed of what will sell fast to people not invested in the game for it's own sake.
>>98870570>cope, seethe, dilate. not necessarily in that order. you need your anger relief rectal plug like a baby needs their binky
>>98870323I'll take a venti kill yourself, hold the milk.
>>98870264Do me a favor and harass that dog by giving it overly aggressive pets.
>>98870614Not until he makes my Ojer Axonil proxy
>>98870317Yeah, kinda. Though webslinging always did feel weird flavor wise so I think this is more a fault with webslinging than beam me up. Besides, not the first time we've had effects by another name but little other difference.
>>98870388Is this card any good in that deck?
>>98870634it's going to look like shit why bother
>>98870663he cute
>>98870663Massacre Wurm is always good. I hate tokens and they all deserve to be sent to the graveyard.
>>98870664A gift is a gift and I shall cherish it
>>98870592These girls got peepees
>>98870694Rent free
>>98870681hope you play leyline of singularity then
>>98870706Does this card override Helm of the Host? And on a similar note, does it override Hall of Echoes?
Tell me about the last game (you) played, anon.
>>98870730Yes to the first, no to the second.
>>98870730Found a post on facebook of all places that explains it, it's a layers thing.The tokens created by Helm have a modified characteristic from the helm, happening in layer 1 (613.1a Layer 1: Rules and effects that modify copiable values are applied.). Following down the list, Leyline of Singularity applies its values in Layer 4 (613.1d Layer 4: Type-changing effects are applied. These include effects that change an object’s card type, subtype, and/or supertype.)The tokens will be created nonlegendary, but become legendary thanks to SingularityHall of Echoes works how you want it to though.
>>98870732
>>98870750Unironically, the last game I played was Wilds of Eldraine prerelease. The last player I played against was a real fucked up tranny and I decided not to ever go back to the store. The next closest store seems to do some kind of "members only" sign up for prereleases and randos can't ever get in. So fuck em, I don't play no more.
>>98870732I went turn 2 Entomb finding Jin into a turn 3 reanimate off the top with enough mana for Negate up. Jin survived thanks to the negate and no one but me got to do anything. I cut Jin-Gitaxias after because it was deemed an unfun experience.
>>98870784Why are you even here? What's the point? Just spite? It doesn't even do anything here.
>>98870732Is that a card you play on a trans player before you enter their bussy?
>>98870732>Spellblade>Moxfield decks>I had just made the deck that morning>Win hardFun games. I think I'm a bad winner though. How do you win gracefully anons?
>>98870796scooch back your seat a little then let out a horrific yell that reverberates through the whole building before calmly scooching back forward.
>>98870789I still look at cards because it makes me need to take a shit and I'm trying to stay regular
>>98870732>playing bracket 2 self-discard with Emet-Selch, Unsundered>1h30-2h into it>manage to discard myself down to 2 cards with a Laboratory Maniac on the field>have the other Emet-Selch on the field that makes you able to cast instants or sorceries from your graveyard if you deal damage, have mana to cast a ideas unbound if damage goes through>Have a 9/9 artifact creature with flying trample, and vigilance stolen from the guy in front of me with Extract From Darkness>Swing at him with it, cause he has no cards in hand and no flyers>angrily says "I scoop, I'm going">picks his creature and his stuff and leaves>I ask if the damage goes through, then the other 2 players look in silence.>I ask again>"No damage happens...">I'm so fuming I accidentally let out a "faggots">"Excuse me?? What did you just call us?!" says the guy sitting next to me in a very faggot voice>"Just play your turns already">goes to the monowhite rabbit token player, does nothing and pass>guy next to me put down a krank and full swings at me>"That's lethal, I think">say nothing, just sit in disbelief before just leaving>A minute later, I see them leave as wellI'm still mad about it
>>98870820>too autistic to avoid calling his playgroup faggots when they don't let him winHad it comin' homeboy
>>98870196>best selling sets of all time are UBYeah nice copium you got there. A couple of retards crying in their echo chambers about it not being 2012 anymore does not mean the playerbase is "divided".
>>98870838Ok and how would you know?
>>98870732I smol beaned myself to a win because the graveyard player (Karador) kept trying to cheat in Must Remove creatures and soaking up everyone's removal and just before my winning turn the rest of the table used two counter spells and a removal so I gambled everyone was spent and dumped 6 mana into Warren Warleader+squad with two doublers out, so I had 5 WWs on the board and with 2 +1/+1 counters on Biomancer when I attacked with Exalted Sunborn, so I created 20 5/5 rabbits that outright killed 2 players and the even though the 3rd managed to block enough to survive they scooped because they had nothing to stop another wave.Then next game I played Yshtola and lost bigly.
>game one >hit with turn 5 infinite>game two>hit with turn 4 infinite>game three>hit with turn 5 infinitecommander sure is fun
More Slivers. More. MORE. MORE.MORE MORE MORE MORE
>>98870864Because I've never seen anyone crying about UB in person - UB sells very well at the LGS's and online stores and my buddy's vending machines - and the company has told us UB are the best selling sets>b-b-but Maro is lying!You do realize its literally against the law for company's to lie to shareholders right?
>>98870902In shareholder meetings, not on tumblr.MaRo lies on tumblr all the fuckin time. That said, he's probably not lying about UB selling obnoxiously well.
>>98870902>You do realize its literally against the law for company's to lie to shareholders right?>Maro doesn't lieHe lied about so many things over the years. Like UB not being standard legal. You fucking retard.
>>98870902SHUT UP! IT'S A CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU! THEY'RE TRYING TO GASLIGHT EVERYONE INTO THINKING UB SELLS WELL BECAUSE UM... SHUT UP!*Ignore Final Fantasy and Avatar and Lord of the Rings because they sold so well I can't even lie about it without looking retarded because they gigamogged every MtG set in history.
>>98870898Preach it
>>98870918
>>98870909I never said Maro doesn't lie. I said it's ILLEGAL to lie to shareholders about a product's sale numbers. They have said in calls and quarters that UB sells a lot. If you think otherwise go ahead and open a lawsuit you actual retard.
>>98870820>>"No damage happens..."I've never seen this actually happen at a table. If someone scoops on attack, every table I've ever played at has played it out as if the damage happened and let whoever was doing the damage get their triggers. You must have been playing with some real faggots for them to rule it any other way.
>>98870921>He thinks they don't lie to shareholders like they lie to everyone elseCompanies lie. Everyone lies. The only thing holding our society together are lies. You're an ignorant little child.
>>98870934You are actually stupid. Is this the brain power of the -UB dumbasses?
>>98870634I can try and make her more monstrous if you prefer.And I made the land side boring, so if you are ever in a position where you are seeing it, you deserve it for letting her die.
>>98870921You're right anon. Nobody has ever misled a shareholder. They would be instantly disintegrated from orbit if they tried to obfuscate the truth even slightly.Big businesses are first and foremost known for their honesty and transparency.
>>98870732Was playing this guy. Swung out with this him and some tokens. No blockers were declared. Cast casualty Dark Ritual into a casualty Hatred buffing Silverquill and one of the tokens, paying every life I had but the last one to take out one opponent with commander damage and the other with an over 40 power token. Then grinded the last one with casualty removal and big token boosted swings. This Silverquill has definitely been my favorite card released in a long while and Hatred rose up to being one of my favorite cards ever.
>>98870946Holy based Gobbo anon thank you
>>98870785Jin gitaxias is a bona fide b2 card and your pod stinks for whining
>>98870921You don't understand anon. WotC is lying to players and continuously spending an increasing amount of time and resources on UB (which is 100% failing) because it suits my narrative that Aetherdrift and Thunder Junction are more beloved than Lord of the Rings and Final Fantasy.
>>98870948Then lawyer up pussy haha
>>98870946Not him, but I dig this take on her. I'd be down to see what other monstrous version you've got though.
>You could not live with UW's failure.>Where did that bring you?>Back to UB
>>98870946You Gobbo-anon, would you mind redoing Felothar so that she's both ridding the croc-dragon that appears in the original card but so it's prominent as well? My girlfriend plays her and likes who she looks on your proxy but as a dragonfag, she refuses to use the proxies originally made until her Felothar's cool dragon mount is featured prominently on it. Thanks in advance, if you accept.
>>98870948>the company can't get in trouble for "misleading" shareholders even though that would be considered lying by any and all legal definitions and would open them up for a lawsuit>a few companies have lied in the past therefore they all do all the time>despite the fact there are whole wall street firms looking for companies that are lying about their shit so they can get an easy payday from a lawsuit all these predatory wall street insiders aren't suing Hasbro despite set sales being easily provable because...they just aren't!>other companies just blindly partner up with hasbro without wanting to see proof of their potential bottom line or the sales figures and despite UB supposedly bombing none of them are opening lawsuits or withdrawing licenses for being lied to by Hasbro because...they just aren't okay?!Are you starting to understand how absolutely and genuinely stupid and childish you sound? Maybe it's time to grow up and stop watching cartoons and using cardboard as your "investment" and actually learn what the market is and how it works and trying buying adult securities instead of spouting r/nowork dogwalker talking points and crying about ninja turtles on your playing cards.
>>98870972i thought women would be repulsed by this shit? what gives /edhg/?
>>98871007Lie is when facts don't align with my ideals.
>>98870972Does it need to look like that exact dragon, or will any cool dragon do?
>>98871082Why does this make me laugh
>>98871082>3 towns were bulldozed and a lake was drained of water to make room for a data center to generate this
>>98871088Good
>>98871088i love eminent domain
>>98871082Needs to look like the dragon off the original card, plz and thank you!
>>98871088It's funny how luddies continually invent scenarios for themselves to get mad over. If you used AI you could just gen those scenarios and save time and energy!
Hmm...I might have overdone it with the slivers.
>>98871112She can take it or leave it. The more I push to accentuate the dragon, the less detailed she becomes and vice versa as well as causing them to merge into an abomination like that other image I posted. I'll keep genning for a bit and see if something better comes up, but I don't care that much about this card to be honest.
>>98871229Still looks better than the troon on the real card
>>98870950How did you build him, tons of the pay X, make Y ammount of token's cards? Thats the way i went with all the token doubler's available but im unsure of its actual effectiveness, I didnt really lean into the aristocrat theme, more so go wide. Defentally a interesting commander. Got a list by any chance so i can compare?
>>98871211
>>98871229she cute AWWOOOOGA CHOCO CHOCOCO CHOO CHOO
>>98870930Same. Buncha lil bitch faggots indeed.
>>98871229Worthless faggot.
>>98871295worthless trannothar I guess it's halloween though so nuabzan are right for the season
>>98871295Sorry you didn't like it.
Friend of mine got upset my Super Skrull deck was really a Zacama deck in disguise, it made him scoop. How did your game go tonight?
>>98871260I got a couple of those. But I tried to go a little more into repeatable token makers rather than x spell token makers and I tried to avoid as much aristocrat stuff as possible and focus more on combat instead. There's still a couple cards I'm looking to cut for other stuff eventually, but this is the list I've been using for a while now. Having a deck that not only lets me play Hatred but also copy it is a lot of fun.https://moxfield.com/decks/3fP9KjAzAE-Z86ns83ZLEA
>>98871229The girl is the part that matters most here anyway and considering how magic has almost no good looking black girls, this is an improvement.
>>98871362>considering how magic has almost no good looking black girls, this is an improvement.There has to be at least a few coming out in Zalfir, right? R-right?
Give me some examples of commanders with extremely linear and boring gameplans.Pic related
>>98871382I make new rat, I make no slopbin
>>98871358Nice,thanks anon
>>98871229>>98870972Fuck it, different anon here. Ill try manually painting over the OG Felothar art with the Sloppa design give me a few
>>98871382
>>98871402You know you don't have to
>>98871402Godspeed.
I'm learning there aren't as many way to flicker planeswalkers as I'd like. Displacer Kitten is a good one and is broken with her though
>simic value town doing its thing>im the only player running any removal so the simic value town deck always has the protection ready for memight as well just join them, threat assessment is always awful
>>98871418run gavin-approved mld to interact with rampand if it's landfall run graveyard hate
>>98871435they'll just counter it.
>>98871441hey the ceiling might also fall on them and kill them before they do that so who knows right?
>>98871441reb, pyroblast, hexing squelcherveil of summer, autumn's veilgrand abolisher, silencethoughtseize, duressyou have a few options if a blue player is being a bitch. if they continue to get uppity wheel out choke or boil.
>>98871435>thanks
>>98871451>and if it's landfall run graveyard hate
>>98869056>TQThe frog must be fed!
>>98871486I need a card that's bill and ted but puts lands into play like ravenous ride
>>98870288Snow-Covered Misha>>98870315https://archidekt.com/decks/27633715/lisan_alghaibI really wanted to put in the newer Hazezon but trying to include deserts as a sideplot with him and ones like sand scout kept interfering with the delayed trigger/token multiplier theme>>98870511I got all 3 for about 1200. It pained me seeing these so expensive when the last time i saw any in an LGS they were barely above 100 a pop>>98870618I would love to make a proxy dog deck with her as the commander someday
>>98871486Reminder Gitrog canonically vored Thalia.
>>98870003I built an Aerith deck as well! It was fun, but a little too one track with how it played imo, so I took it apart to build a Cecil deck. Hopefully pic rel will help you build yours, anon.
>>98871593she's just meme meren
These two, you don't think they...?
>>98871660use counterfeit cards from chang to eat the dog over and over for 100% immersion
>>98871418Have you tried countering their counters with .45 ACP?
>>98871305don't worry i like your work goblinanon
>>98871733I'd like goblin anon if they were not american.
>>98871229Thanks for your efforts, Gobbo-anon! My girlfriend will appreciate it either way.>>98871402Thank you! You didn't have to do this at all and for that, I'm grateful. Thank you.
>>98871741I think he's from PeruUnless you meant america as the whole america and not just us
>>98871852No way someone from that 3rd world shit hole can afford AI.
>>98871859are you retarded?
>>98871865Yes, I play EDH.
>thread is full of AI slopdamn this general has really gone to shit after all these years
>>98871885Paint my every request for free from now on and I shan't use ai
>>98871900guaranteed you're brown irl
>>98871911Nope I'm pale as milkSo no freebies? The I keep on with ai
>>98871885Your first 4chan general in years I see.
I thought just shitty website proxies have terrible spacing but so do official cards huh
>>98871418I've been waiting on a lands Torpor Orb for a couple years now to slow these decks down. Star Trek is yet another set where landfall continues to get new toys with absolutely no new checks being printed. I want some real hate cards for the archetype instead of having to tip-toe around it with sweepers to kill all the value and graveyard hate. Give me more Ankh of Mishra, Polluted Bonds, Strict Proctor, and Elesh Norn type cards to punish it or stuff it. I'm convinced idiots who keep showing up advocating for MLD (which landfall can easily play through) are only doing so because the utter lack of dedicated landfall hate pieces is staggering with how much support it gets. Every year we rightfully get more graveyard hate cards, because the graveyard is powerful and this game would be in shambles without it. But year after year strong landfall cards get pooped out and there's just nothing to stuff them. >just ran graveyard hateI can and do because I'm not but holy shit enough is enough I need more tools against these decks.
is it ethical to proxy fetchlands if you're playing minthara
>>98871961As someone who plays this guy, I agree. It's as slop as you think, and there's not enough hate for itUnfortunately, that's not the kind of game wizards wants. Landfall is the default low skill feel good deck, and it generally attracts the kind of people who see any interaction with them as feelsbad. Wizards caters to them as the "casual" players who treats edh more as a roleplaying experience than a card game
>>98872018It is always ethical to proxy
>>98871961There needs to be an oppo agent but only for "search for lands" in any color but green/blue.
>>98869056I love this nigga - he's both deceptively simple and versatile. Can be used against opponent (especially effective against lifegainfags) but I can also target myself for quick and dirty healing which works pretty nice with stuff like Greed or Necropotence. Can be flickered, copied or used with cards like Supernatural Stamina to quickly reuse this effect, too.Ah, I guess it also counts as pretty potent sacrifice outlet but even without that it's pretty fucking awesome. I usually run it in 99 of my Ghost Council Of Orzhova.
>>98872018I don't think there's a reason not to proxy unless your LGS is adamant people don't. If that is the case you should find a less shitty one then.
>>98869056>TQ: What is your favourite card?Avacyn, Angel of Hope. I'm a sucker for the huge timmy beast.However, the swift second has come around to being Redirect Lightning. One mana (and 5 life) to turn your removal into my removal has won me SO many games.
I played my 'unnamed silver bordered UB' Commander deck a few times last night, and I even got a win with it! (It was with approach of the 2nd sun, not my favourite way of winning but still cool). I found a neat interaction, that even though I have protection from all colours, I can still get hosed from colourless. One of the players in my pod has a spikey colourless deck.I am already stretching the rules with token cards being considered as toys, I wonder if I can scheme somehow to have a colourless toy. "Colourless is not a colour", so if choose to make a token of any colour, I cannot select colourless, so I think I am screwed. I need to run step-mom in this deck.
>>98869056It's okay, anon. Just come join us over here. We need the support anyways.>>98829219>>98829219
>>98872269my sidesI don't care for your deck but I lol'd that proxy. Genuinely wish you fun playing your "spiderman" deck anon
If the cattle keep buying, nothing will change.
Do you think People would throw a fit about this card?I mean it can pretty much be read as simply being unable to cast on other people's turns.
>>98872547It's fine if you drop it on a turn where you are gonna do things that will demand instant speed answers but if you don't you are kind of just fucking everyone over once someone else starts doing things that demand instant speed interaction.
What the fuck they ruined the Visual Grid option on Moxfield?? I wanna be able to see the whole card not just the name, that's the whole reason i was using that mode
>>98872500Damn that covered my post ITT
>>98870749Facebook is actually not the worst place to find MTG or commander dialogue in general. pReddit has long been cooked as a reliable source of trustworthy information. its just an official mouthpiece for GōtC and a propaganda outlet more than anything to do with cardsyou find regular people talking about Magic in FB groups all the times and people dont get banned for saying men cant be women when some insane person claims something like that (usually off topic of an issue related to card interactions, per typical)give it a shot!>>98870784what state? sounds grim. theres one tranny I played against at a pre-release who I called a HE to a 3rd party. they never said anything and I never acknowledged I may have made a mistake. but they used a female name and had fake stuffed breasts. they're just fetishists anyway. and of course this in Florida where people seem to be sane still
>>98872235in my player base almost everyone owns a couple revised duals, revised stuff like Wheel of Fortunes and Demonic Tutors etc. Gold bolder cards are treated as real like Chrome Mox, Enlightened Tutor, Grim Monolith, etcits generally frowned upon to proxy out your whole deck. you should try to make an effort to get the real cards. obviously dont live in a cardboard box for cards. and if you have at least 1 of a card its generally fair to proxy it outof course if you did fully proxy out a deck the most you'd get would be a sarcastic comment, as no one has authority over it (commander is also an unsanctioned format where it doesnt matter regardless)
>>98872647>preddit is just an official corporate mouthpiece and propaganda engineagreed, i've fond that I can get an actual community review of things by using an LLM and instructing it to aggregate community discussions on a thing while excluding critic opinions, number rating systems, youtube and reddit discussions.and then suddenly the general opinion on any given thing changes dramatically from what the visually loud perception is and aligns more with things you actually hear from people IRL.
>>98872547It kinda exposes a cognitive gap because nobody ever bitches about City of Solitude which is the same thing but stronger.
>>98872655Having at least a few legit cards is a positive since owning a legit card is always cool., however its basically required for formats like vintage or legacy. Its also nice for people like me who are getting back into magic after not playing it for 10+ years and haven't kept up with mtg.
Move over grandpa, Trek is here to take another bestseller slot from your story with 2 years of buildup.
>>98872655Once upon a time I would have agreed with this but excepting full custom art decks like the infamous elden ring deck or the goblin deck anon is building from gobanons stuff.But I've moved on from even that proviso, no matter how flexible you are with that "rule" you're still saying, on some level, that what is played at the table must be representative of the wallet behind the player and no matter how much you'll wiggle on that it's still absurd to suggest a players economic standing has bearing on a card game when the only thing that should matter is how well they can build a deck and play.The far more problematic thing for me is netdecking. I don;t care what monetary cost your cards have, what I care about is your ability to build and play, violating that to WAAC is much worse IMO.
>>98871852>I think he's from PeruWhat gave you that impression?>>98872018If you're doing just the fetch for her colors, no one will give a shit, if you are doing all the off color fetches people will probably roll their eyes at you thinking your a tryhard. That's it, there is no ethical quandary. >>98872655I've had one person say they wouldn't play against me for using proxies in 3 years and nearly 200 people at this point. Helps that I'm not proxying decks that are just pure pubstompers so they also don't just leave because I'm just being "that guy."
>>98870909>Like UB not being standard legal. You fucking retard.He didn't lie at the time. Things change.
>>98872738what about when he said we'll get UW versions of UB then he said we won't?
>>98872747Again, not a lie at the time.
>>98872752I think saying something to appease your playerbase then going back on your word qualifies as a lie, but ok, have your jewish pilpul, even if we don't use the word 'lie', we can come to the same conclusion, that his word is worthless
>>98869056>tq
>>98872547awesome
>>98869056>favorite commander is flubs>feel bad taking 10 minute turns while comboing out>pod tolerates it but deep down I know they hate it>deliberately de-power deck to a more fair landfall deck with no easy infinites>deck feels weak but whatever, it allows for gameplay>opponents play decks that can vomit out 10 treasures on turn 3 or reanimate game-ending creatures or deploy a massive board state before I've even got a landfall payoffnah maybe I'll go back to turbo flubs.
>>98871447BASED
What makes a deck "turbo"
>>98870024This is why gamechanger and brackets suck. It all comes down to rule 0 anyway. It's trying to police that degenerate lgs stompers aren't mean to random customers.
>>98872807I agree. We should just give up on any sort of rules for the format and abolish the banlist because we'll need rule 0 anyway.
>>98872803
>>98872812HUH?
>>98872810Rule zerofags are the biggest cocksuckers of sheldon's banlist it's hilarious
>>98872790some decks are just doomed to be bracket 4 and up anon, sorry. winota, kinnan, kriik, etc.
>>98872790If all you know is going infinite/thoracle then you miss the point of casual bracketsCan you not just make a mssive board of your own where your opponents might have a slight chance of interacting with? Or is it because you keep losing to better storm decks (Ral) in cedh that's why you pubstomp instead?
>>98872684the critical thing being legacy and vintage are actually sanctioned formats though. and same here, final fantasy is what got me back in as when I started in 2010 I was hoping they would do a crossover which people said would never ever happen (they were wrong). aside from some random shit I picked up from amonkhet in 2017 I didnt have much of a collection from the last 9 years so its hard starting over. and my old cards are at my parents house 1000 miles away still haven't gotten them. >>98872711I agree with this too. it's just what the group of dudes Ive been playing with kind of does. one guy has a trop island and another revised one but he wanted to randomly make a Sauron deck and proxied out the whole thing. its not that he can't afford it its really just out of connivence. but saving over 1000 bucks to not have to buy a volcanic and badlands is nice too>>98872715yeah what I was trying to say is its not even so much as a refusal to play or management of an LGS having an issue just getting shit on for using proxies and whatever attention that might bring (getting targeted for no reason...or maybe its for having a t1 underground sea, sol ring mox diamond into grim monolith into time twister or something silly)
>>98872855Why even bother with color identity, singleton, 99 cards, or lack of wishboards? We can just rule 0 that.
>>98872269>I wonder if I can scheme somehow to have a colourless toyHow about one of those see through ones? Surely there's a see through "Spider-Man" you could use in the various generations of toys. I know G4 had some translucent blind bag ones at least.
>>98872547Eh, a little. But I think that it still gives you the option to go for the spell anyway, as long as you're willing to get that land blown up, makes it so significantly less players would get upset.
>>98872891Also paying thousands for old cards that don't look anything like the other cards in the deck is silly. One of the biggest strengths of proxying is to have a deck that looks like all the cards in it belong to the same game.
>>98872602Try Visual Spoiler. It's the only option I've ever used there.
>>98871536yeah when I was first getting into it you could get French volcanic islands for like 40 or 60 bucks. that would have been late 2010 or early 2011. and I was like "who the hell wants to play with non English cards???" STOOOOPID. then I didnt play for years
>>98872910all my cards except some very new ones like characters from Final Fantasy or ELDER SPHINGES look old. I cant stand the Neo-modern border with all the black empty abyss at the bottom of the cards. it's either OG modern frame (especially important for hybrid cards) or straight up retro frame. especially important for basic lands. like for the new angels pre-con, I kept 1 each of the basics that came with it and switched them all out for full art hobbit stuff, 9th edition white borders to make Land Tax searching easier, and other random ones from Beta, Unlimited, Onslaught etc. and OG Zendikar starter pack basics
>>98872937the OG modern frame (as in your picture) is usually my preferred frame, although there is a strong argument for the original card frame as well.I absolutely hate white, silver or gold borders as those are a huge visual clash with the rest of the deck as well.it's case specific between the two looks, some decks just look better with the more morose appearance of the original borer, some with the clean higher contrast look of the modern frame.Full arts where appropriate, but not borderless unless the whole deck can be done borderless.The biggest thing for me is visual consistency, it has to look like all the cards belong with each other.
>>98872947>The biggest thing for me is visual consistency, it has to look like all the cards belong with each other.I wish wotc cared about this in the slightest. Some of the decks people build just look like shit because wotc puts so many different treatments out there.
>>98872747>what about when he said we'll get UW versions of UB then he said we won't?UW wasn't because they were UB, it was because they were mechanically unique cards released as SLD. UW was a way to get those mechanically unique cards released at retail, not to non-UB them.
>>98873011It delegitimizes the "official" status to me, there is now nothing of value in a card being "real" because the aesthetic and subject matter have both been perverted beyond what even full custom community sets would go for a decade ago.
>>98871885how we haven't run that idiot out of the general is beyond me
>>98873175he has a humiliation fetish, it's impossible to shame him out.
Anyone mind doing some suggestions/feedback for a deck I'm making while we wait for the thread to drop off?
>>98873192I will give suggestions if your commander is cool and based.
>>98873175>weThe gerbil in your ass doesn't count.
>>98873195It's this fella. Was looking for a home for my favorite orzhov angels.
Our Strength
>>98873221Fuck's sake anon, I was eating.
>>98873221INFINITE POWER
>>98873221>9 manaI sleep
>>98873221automatically banned for edh because of picrelated
>>98873274this makes x=0
>>98873274Even if it did work (Borg is a creature type), it's 9 mana + a 4 mana brick.
>>98873196any positive reaction is just him samefagging, no one likes him or his "art"
>>98870732>>98870732>playing Gonti, Lord of Luxury>Doomsday Excruciator is the secret commander>vs Flip Liliana, Maelstrom Wanderer, Nezehal>MW and Nez each have a dick measuring contest>Lili player gets taken out>I steal Blue Samut from Nez player, use it to work around a Damnation on a board that has Jin Gitaxis Progress Tyrant by throwing away another spell on it>tutor into Doomsday Exc, cast it, no counter, shit gets flipped.>Nez shortly dies to his own draw triggers soon after>I force draw the MW playerThis might be my card of the decade. The game transforms the moment he resolves.
>>98873319Stop being a schizo
>>98873319Except the anons requesting specific cards from him and me, the guy who is going to order an entire deck of his creations the moment the last few are completed.Seems like it's easier to count the anon (not plural) who is butthurt about it, which is just you.
>>98873285Fuck, technically correct.
>>98873354The best kind of correct.I had the same reaction to the Federation mechanic when I first saw it.
>>98873356if only it didn't say non-borg, it'd have to be banned.not because it makes a lot of math, infinite combos are okay, but because it could make an externally referenced specific number of copies that requires that rules lookup if changeling is present, the potential for creating rules arguments at the table would be too big, and the number isn't fixed over the lifespan of the game either.In many cases it would be effectively the same as infinite, but there are certainly cases where that distinction would have to be worked out.
>>98873221I can't wait to ironically cast this
>>98873373Summary Dismissal or Mindbreak Trap should work to negate its effect if it isn't countered when cast.
>>98873343>me requesting me to make proxies for my own decks from mewe know
>>98873462I wish, if I was doing them myself I could have it today instead of politely waiting for anon to make the cards in his own time and generously doing so for free, I could also arbitrarily add cards to the request without feeling like a dick to give the deck flexibility.
AI can look good if you check some stuff on etsy, but not the SD 1.5 shiny 1girls in this thread
>>98873221When this comes out, I need a proxy from Gobbo anon.
>>98873471Yeah man. Totally.
>>98873501intentionally finding the shit ones does nothing to prove anything anon
>>98873514They are the rule. not the exception
>>98873514>intentionally finding the shit onesso all of them?
>>98873470why wait, you can buy an entire goblin slut deck off etsy right now for probably less what whatever printing service your going to use
>>98873534these are terrible, how would you even play with this, they all look the same
>>98873548just like gobpedos proxies
>>98873534Why does all AI slop have that weird "glare" to them? Its one of the telltale signs its AI.
>>98873534I like what anon is doing with the art, he isn't just throwing the same generated gobbo slut on every single card, he is giving each card it's own distinctive treatment, the one in your image makes for a difficult to read board.And I doubt it could be had for cheaper on etsy. I own a 3D printer and use it exclusively for making my wargame miniautres because of the staggering cost difference, and I am familiar with the greed of etsy sellers when it comes to 3D prints and also unrelated handmade items, the prices on etsy are far above what is reasonable for the makers costs.I'm going to have this goblin tribal deck for about $60 with all the tokens it needs as well, it's the sleeves that are going to make it costly.
>>98873534>>98873561Exactly as I thought, the ones on etsy are $115-230 and they are generic krenko goblin tribal.Gobanons existing body of work let me assemble an Auntie Ool, Cursewretch jund goblin tribal that is distinctively not the "same old goblin tribal"And the images gobanon is generating still look better to me.
>>98873560That's just really shitty, older, AI models that do that. But those are the ones most accessible for people to make coomer slop.
>>98873175>we Speak for yourself coward. At least gobslopper contributes to the thread beyond crying about UB and he-shes. If anyone needs to be run out its the antifag(s).
>>98873175oh they're still here, they're just making AI slop now on top of being retards.
>>98873718Why are proxy fags always wanting to use the hybrid mana card frames instead of just using a gold frame for their gold cards?
>>98873319How do you know?
>>98873830It came to me in a dream.
>move city>new LGS has a house rule of "no killing anyone before turn 6"
>>98873891that's not a house rule, it's a bracket 3 guideline
>>98873827looks better
>>98873907>expectYeah and sometimes it doesn't happen because you luck out and everything goes right for youIt might be the average, it's certainly retarded to say "no don't do that, make retarded decisions to ensure everyone got to have fun for long enough"
>>98873718>>98873827it needs to have gold border if its two colors. if the white and blue mana symbols were hybrid W/U symbols it could have that frameI mean it can have whatever you want but to stay in line with the official design language it would be that. you should make it the original modern frame so it fills out the whole bottom with the hybrid frame, it looks dope as it goes from the white marble to the blue waves which is most visible on the bottom (as in the example included in pic rel)>>98873891how many gay pride parades does that city have a year?
Alrighty bro turn 7, I'll cast Silence, then cast Demonic Consultation naming Wood Elemental, then I cast Thassa's Oracle. GG
>>98873929Well, since you did all of that clearly holding prio, we'll just let it resolve so thassa's resolves before you exile your library.
>>98873919what is sometimes? 1%? 5%? maybe 10%? what if I say I expected to always play 6 turns?not saying you're wrong, just how this retarded wording leads to retarded rules like that LGS one, while being "technically correct"
>another episode of "the bracket system is worthless and doesn't work"
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE GOAL OF THIS CARD GAME IS TO WIN?>NOT ALLOWED YOU HAVE TO LET ME JERK OFF FOR 6 TURNS BEFORE YOU KILL ME REEEEE
Not allowed to kill players for 6 turn cycles, you say?
drogo is my favorite low bracket breaker, you don't ever win in under the turn count, just get an unbreakable advantage
At this point just make 2 brackets, casual and cEDH, in casual there's no gamechangers and also make the gamechanger list bigger.
>>98873991based and correct, we just need extensive banlists
Hypersensitive "everyone deserves a trophy" type babies just shouldn't play Magic and instead do co-op play in Lorcana or something
>>98873982any Dack deck is a cedh deckbtw the "c" in cedh stands for "cancerous">>98873991this has been debunked theres lots of higher power casual play with good cards. hope this helps
>>98874003sorry bro we are the game for hypersensitive babies in the group hug multiplayer mode, we are where people tell their snowflakes to go
>>98874011>any Dack deck is a cedh deckNuh uh my favorite youtuber said I can play Dack in B2 if I take out the infinite and instead make my deck full of Eldrazi
eldrazi should all be banned in B2
tiers should just be a vibe thing, no hard rules around x "game changers"
>>98874025If you don't have hard rules you'll get some nigga with a demon in the command zone saying he should be allowed to run all the broken black tutors because it's "on theme"
>>98874025There should be more rules.
>>98874025yeah lets just allow black lotus back in
>>98874032Just make an honest assessment of your deck>it's a stupid memetier 1>it's about as strong as 90% of preconstier 2>it's pretty solidtier 3>it's really strongtier 4
>>98874011actually this has been rebunked, hope this helps.
>>98874042>nah bro my deck it's just solid
>>98874051Then you call them out on it afterwards and explain why everyone else disagrees and from then on he has no excuse not to properly rank it
>>98874056So.... the same as what we have now?
>>98874059Right now you have some hard rules around the amount of game changers or "no mass land denial at all" and such
>>98874025You can have all the tutors and manarocks, they don't change the game without something meaningful to tutor and ramp for.
>>98874016I dont know what infinite youre talking about but eldraZi deck is cedh. any eldrazi with deck is cedh especially the original good ones>>98874048pic rel
>>98873718I appreciate your efforts, but can you make some kind of post with your creations instead of just posting them cold?
https://moxfield.com/decks/mOr_FmBFwUmC0U9gjql6Kwthoughts on these vibes?
>>98873912Maybe on planet retard.
what are some cute combos with felisa?
>>98873319So, I'm Coomette, Vaush, (You), me, the person you're responding to and everyone who might reply to this message?I have a very exhausting life to still be broke.
>>98874197missed the name change the third time anon
>>98874197How's the weather today on planet retard?
>>98874202I just saw that.
>>98873555The fact you keep seeing children when it's curvy shortstacks says more bout you than Gobanon, you projecting sick pedo fuck.
>>98874197feet
>>98874206I didn't ask for mustard.
>>98874197>FeetThat's the stuff.
>>98874197How do you put only part of her body over the text bars?
>>98874197not Mons as in "Mons Pubis"?
>>98874197So these goblinettes produce cum tokens right? That's their gimmick?
>>98874252>Fire up your legally purchased photoshop, make your format.>Put your image at the bottom of the list>Select the part you want over the bars>Copy paste>Drag it up the layer order so its on top, hit that remove background button to create a mask>Double click the mask, and edit it manually so it pops out like you want it to>You're done.>>98874229>>98874250Thank Dave Kendall for having his foot visible in his art.>>98874262If you want them to in your rule 0.
I glanced at the Star Trek Commanders and its kinda sad the only one that seems interesting to me is the "do thing draw card +1 +1 counters" commander.The other 3 seem really weak or clunky.
>>98874334Welcome to face commanders, they are either busted or boring.
>>98874016This is correct as a boardwipe will save the pod as b2 intended
>>98874349>boardwipes aren't really B2 vibes man that's MCD
>>98874339its just what were they thinking here?>7 CMC commander >artifact creatures get +2 +2 (lol)>4/4 with no keywords>enters or attacks slop>her ability is "if you get a creature from the top of an opponents deck, you can put it on your field with a +1 +1 counter!"what were they smoking when they thought this up?
>>98874339>when u play him, make a 2/1 (lol)>if you hit multiple people, you can exile play cardsyeah i wanna casino impulse after combat and not play the game wizards.
>>98874056>why everyone else disagrees>because naturally everyone will agree with me duhWho the hell do you think you are lmaosane people brave enough to play outside will stick with wotc as they have word of god instead of some random shmuck like (You)
Oh god I just realized that we are getting a new generation of bant landfall sloppa decks thanks to the Spock preconJust kill me now bro
>>98874382does white even add anything to the currently-rampant simic landfall slop?
>>98874390Yes. Double up the slop
>>98874390stormchads...
>>98874396this >>98874394 is a better answer,nonetheless, they still already have actual panharmonicon, ancient greenwarden, and starfield and virtue. and that's if they didn't decide to play yarok for self-mill into splendid rec.
>>98874396We need more high costing powerful white sorceries stat!
>>98874382They get to run all the annoying ass stax pieces that are either one-sided or barely affect them at all since they have about 20 more lands than the rest of the tanle
>>98874410>PanharmoniconDoesn't do anything for landfall tho
>>98874416It was from a better time.It was a problem design and slippery slope from a better time, but still it was better than now.
>>98874294>Photoshop I don't know how to use that shit
>>98874439The good news is that nothing he has described is complicated at all so you can learn how to do what he does even if you are the dumbest retard in this thread.
>>98874411this isn't MLD because it doesn't destroy them
>>98874357I pre-ordered the Klingon deck on a whim, I hope it doesn't end up sucking too bad.
>>98874456This. Cracking photoshop is unironically more complicated than playing with layers.
>>98874357low power tymna+whatever red partner
>>98874464And this one?
>>98874464Gavin's definition of mld covers things like Sunder and Decree of AnnihilationAnd his definition of mld includes 'without replacement' which is to allow for things like From the Ashes and Wave of Vitrioil which give immediate replacement; otoh cards like Dimensional Breach and Fall of the Thran do not immediately replace the denied lands so they can safely be tagged as mld
>>98874508This isnt mld as it doesnt pass the 'regularly denies' criteria (it's in practice a shitty burn spell)
>>98874083As in explaining my reasoning for making it? I don't think there's usually enough to explain. It's basically just asking for feedback. For that one in particular, I am wondering if it's overcosted/even needs to cost blue. I think halfing damage on a single creature is not actually that strong but I have misjudged with other designs where people told me to tone it down.
>>98874600Simply asking for feedback is better than just nothing at all.
>>98874357>>98874469The worf deck will suck because of the worf effect, expectations unsubverted
>>98873907Bracket 3 isn't a ruleset.
>>98874600have you tried making these in the old frame? I think a lot of the art you're using would match nicely to it
>>98873963While you're on the right track, your lgs is ultimately wrong because it's actually supposed to be turn 7 for infinites and altwincons only for b3, as combat damage is fair magic and so is killing you with tifa on turn 3
>>98874639Okay, I'll consider. Picrel is my attempt at making fair removal that supports the commander and explores a theft theme in a color where that's unusual.>>98874703Hasn't occoured to me, yet and I think it'd be weird to mix different generations of frames + I don't want to redo all the cards. I also think it makes most sense to use current frames as it is being made in Anno 2026, meaning using the current standard is the most honest. If WotC ever changes the frame design again, people in the future could look at this "set" and gauge when it was made, which is half the fun of seeing old frames.
>>98874163>Anything with etb triggers, anything with ltb triggersWe can't list all of them anon.
>>98874672It is if people just had common sense and put their TO hat on>no infinites/altwincons before turn 7>no mld>up to 3 GCsIt is the simplest most enforceable way to do brackets as i want shitty decks like voltron to actually have a chance to win instead of being 'happy to be here' warm bodies
>>98874736Not going over this with you again, since you can't conceptualize how others might interpret vague wording different than youAfter pulling out an article, scribbling some headcanon over it, and arguing for an hour, everyone in the lgs clapped and agreed with you, brackets are saved and it is impossible to misinterpret themYou win anon, congrats
>>988707323 games I piloted pic rel all 3, faced Jeskai Spaceship, Kotis, Arcades, some Izzet deck that had interaction but no winsmy decklist is mostly black control, nothing to write home about. I love Plaguecrafter effects that get me 3 sacs in one to auto flip Kuon. Token decks weren't annoyed, until I had several -2/-2 wipes. Only won 6 game 3 when resolved a Sheoldred. Cabal Coffers was found by t3 each game too so that carried
>>98874769>up to 3 GCssee >>98874070Individual cards are generally not game changers, it is specific card interactions that are game changers.Wizards list is retarded.
>>98874769You cannot run a game off vibe-rules.
>>98874777You're definitely not going to argue with me because you have no argument, my lgs runs fine using this heuristic >>98874769 as ultimately sane people dont give a fuck what your wincon is in casual as long as you do it in 'the appropriate time', and if your shit deck is proven to be shit at the sweat level where people have shields up and ready to blow up your wincon by t7 then so be it why you mad anyway it's a kid's card gameSo yes run away now lol
>>98874197Sexy feet.Any chance you could do a goblin Beast Within and a Triumph of the Hordes?
>>98874781>any list i dont agree with is retardedYour opinion is heard but there's a reason you dont own the rights to magic the gatheringHave fun in your basement bubble where everyone sucks your dick
>>98874647I thought about it some more, I hope the Klingon precon sucks. That way, when I win with it unmodified at the LGS, I my victory will be all the more glorious. Basically like playing Dan from Street Fighter.
>>98874782I'd follow gavin's vibes instead of yours that's for sure
>>98874790I'll add them to my list.
>>98874800Thank you! You're a blessing on the general.
>>98874798Gavin left interpretation up to me and everyone else.
>>98872689you know damn well noone gives a shit about magics story, even wotc doesn't give a shit.
>>98874833>>98872855
>>98874847I don't get it and I'm not going to bother figuring it out.
>>98872689The FRA plot beats in itself isnt bad, it's tragic enoughIt's just woefully unearned as we're supposed to believe that jace - which has been a good guy since 2007 - suddenly had a god complex in just a few years after being phyrexianized in MoM (and no one else had these illusions of grandeur post war btw) even though jace never once related to fellow god complex sufferer bolasIt's just a quick sendoff to an old character so wotc can trannify him into Tam; sorin is the only trad male walker left that isnt an animal like garruk or ajank
>>98874850Gavin went on record saying that sundering titan still isnt unbanned because nonbracket users (aka rule zero fags) became uppity
Happy Halloween weekend friends! Let's celebrate with a new thread!>>98874872>>98874872>>98874872
>>98874879You're a week early, fuck you're just as bad as wal-mart.It's called a holiDAY not a holiMONTH
>>98874879Didn't ask, also you're a blue tranny.
>>98874948Seethe and dilate antifag
>>98874355she is also an artifact creatureshe's a 6/6
>>98872647>FloridaWhere in FL? I've been avoiding going to locals because of the possibility of troons (and also I'm very new to the game and don't want to lose).
>>98875144>she
>>98874037this especially ban..uh game changers
>>98875523That and make it so only 1 (one) Legendary Creature can be your commander, period.
