Fuck Yeah UB! editionPrevious: >>98869056>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png (embed)https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png (embed)>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What is your favourite UB card?
Thank you Gobbo anon, you're a gentlemen and a scholar
>>98874872>TQ
Wotc being forced to show a woman's cleavage is proof that UB is superior
>>98874893I will run this as a commander solely for that reason. No, I don't play the game.
>>98874893That's not cleavage
>>98874882I hope you didn't pay for that order yet anon, that cost is wack.hiropaper.ca is offering a better price.
>>98874904Dont worry a lot more run this girl for her bare midriff
>>98874909Her intermammary cleft is showing
>>98874893>>98874909>>98874917And in any case it's like 50 year old granny saggers, yuck.
>>98874882Aye. Glad to be of service. Post them when they arrive. Be nice to see them printed beyond my own personal printer.
>>98874934Is this your AGP self insert
>TQJunk tokens were great and it saddens me they will never return.Plus Rose was my favorite character in Fallout 76.Who has a card. Eugenie didn't get one.
>>98874893the joke is that she's so old her ability works like it's pre-invasion block
Answer a noob's question: How do (You) usually win? Is it through combat damage or drowning someone in life loss spells and abilities?
>>98874970depends on my deck.
>>98874912Yeah it's too late I didn't know of that site.
>>98875002To be fair I don't know if he will ship out of the country, but keep it in mind as a possibility for next time.
>>98874970kill the threatening player(s) with aggressive tempo stuffwipe the rest of the board with a rube goldberg
>>98875005Thanks anon
>>98875007>>98874989Thank you.
>>98874970Depends on the deck. Most of mine win through combat but I do have some combo decks or drain decks. Dong Zhuo can do either combat or burn
>>98874970Seems mostly combat
>>98874893Are these the fattest tits Magic has printed in a long while?
>>98874912>>98874882>tfw these will come out like shit because just look at the subject material >gobpedo will have 0 supporters anymore having cost people real money for absolute shit>he'll actually probably will finally kill himself can't fucking wait
>>98874970Removal or combat tricks into a win usually.
>>98874872OP is a massive faggot
>>98874872>What is your favourite UB card?
>>98875093I already pledged my loyalty to him since he made an Axonil card. No matter what I have to stick by it.
>>98875099Terra wouldn't call anyone a fag and neither should you.
>TQ
>>98874872>tqKingmaker into stealing the throne feels great everytime
>>98874970I do not win.
Is kira the best foot commander?
>>98875093The look fine from my printer, can't image higher quality printers would make them look worse.
>>98875101neat card too bad it's shut down by a single proliferate
>>98875151if your opponent is proliferating you probably have bigger issues than not being able to recast your 2 mana spell
>>98875127
>>98875148I'm so confident in them turning out good that I am ordering dragon shields and kmc perfects for the deck alongside it which just about doubles the cost.
>>98875080Silicone isn't fat.
>>98875148I love the goblin ringleader anon, but it's missing some of it's rules text.
>>98875183He didn't post Tifa the canonical back-alley prostitute
>>98875151Somehow I feel like that is an extremely niche issue.
>>98875189Fixed
>>98875204That was fast.Your ideas for the images are very nice btw, the leader plotting a job over a map is a better fit for the idea than either of the boring official arts.
>>98874872I love endless foot assault so much. I wish there was a tutor for it in the command zone.
>>98875253Le quirky Reddit Card
>>98875237Glad to hear that its appreciated.
>>98875254Don't be mean
>>98875257You call me mean, but not wrongintredasting
>>98875254don't use slurs like that around here
i think i'm going to make the most aids cancer landfall deck i can think of until the people i play with physically kick my ass or let me run mld effects to stop their mediocre landfall value piles.
>>98875204>white and green have 99% the exact same hairstyleHmm.
>>98875262dew it
>>98875265She just wants to be like the leader.
>>98875271I suppose that works, but I think she should have pigtails or something.
I've never played with (or against) a clone deck before, are they fun or just kinda stupid?
>>98875289They're stupid. "four mana best creature on the field" is a good effect in a format where everyone is playing creatures that are over 4 mana.
>>98875295nice creature I'd like a land that does what it does
>>98875289It is almost always better to just play broken cards in your deck in the first place, than to bank your deck construction on your opponents having something good enough for you to copy instead. Clone decks relying on the opponents are often very inconsistent and swingy, and again very dependent on the other decks at the table. They're also really hard to keep track of even if you've got those gay whiteboard tokens, and especially if the guy writing on those whiteboard tokens has illegible handwriting. So, they can be kinda fun. I guess. If you're into that sort of thing.Clone decks focusing on cloning your own broken shit? Can be good. Can be boring win-more that gets super btfo to interaction.
Why isn't BANE a good clone commander? Is it because a good opponent would never let you cheat something into play or something?
>>98875300You can literally just have 1-2 targets of your own to clone have the rest of your deck be clones. > than to bank your deck construction on your opponents having something good enough for you to copy instead. It's the format where you stick a strong creature in your perma-8th card slot.
You ever notice how Magic was better when I was younger and had no responsibilitieshttps://youtu.be/8maFitp8YFQ
>>98875309>It's the format where you stick a strong creature in your perma-8th card slot.Unless it's an extremely generic value engine you're not going to be doing much with timmy's cum each time a creature with an odd cmc etbs under your control commander. And if you do happen to get clones of both his commander and the pieces he has out, that means that his engine is online already and you're jerking yourself off a turn or two behind.I will concede there's almost certainly going to be a target on the field worth copying most of the time in the game, sure. But even still I hardly ever run a clone effect as a fun-of in decks because I hate fun, and also just don't think it's that good overall.
I should really get 37 of Gobanons mountains
>>98875262>MLD>against the decks that run Crucible of Worlds and Exploration effects
>>98875333In nu-speak, that D stands for Denial. There are sets of cards that can make a simic player weep.
>>98875319>Unless it's an extremely generic value enginemost commanders?
>>98875333Destroy the crucible? Have a rest in peace in play?
>people find if annoying so let's just keep talking about it to troll very performative very funny you can stop now
I fucking love Dakkon Blackblade. Land matter but in Esper? Hell yea.Cool art? Hell yea.Badass name? Hell yea.Am I a homosexual? Hell y- no!
>>98875349Impossible, nobody runs gravehate and if they run artifact hate they'll use it on a mana rock
>>98875280I'll template it tomorrow.
>>98875349>Destroy the crucible?They have 50 other cards with that effect.>Rest in peaceHow can I abuse my graveyard then
>>98875383Name all 50
>>98874872>TQ:Knux is super fun and flavorful
If I want to play a colour combo do I have to play how that guild is?I want to play blue and white but I don't want to play taxes and arrests
>>98875392blue and white has aggro flyer strats
>>98875342Still hits other players harder because Exploration effects let the landfall player power through Winter Orb and similar effects. This is the general problem with MLD against landfall: they have the tools to recover, bypass, or endure the fuckery better than most decks, because MLD is tuned to be played against decks that don't sac and replay their lands 3+ times a turn. Actual landfall hate is stuff like Tunnel Ignus or Ankh of Mishra, that directly punishes the act of playing a land.>>98875349Notice how neither of those are MLD? You beat landfall by removing the support pieces. MLD hits everyone, which means its more likely to draw hate from the rest of the table, and can interfere with other players' ability to use removal against the landfall player.
there is NO strategy that is effective against landslop that isn't even more effective and oppressive against everyone else
>>98875397That looks nothing like an ankh>>98875401>landslopENTER
>>98875403Okay.
>>98875401Good. Oppress everyone else out of the game entirely so you can focus your removal on the landfall player. That is the way. Retards look at stax and see red, just stax them harder and shoot the real threat.
best strat against landfall is insurrection. they will vomit more in power than they have in hp. the only difficulty is making sure they don't have counterspells (they will)
>>98875407>i will always draw my 1 card from the 99 to counter your commander
>>98875401Try running a deck that wins the game before turn 30.
>>98875289I made my Miirym deck have as many clones as possible. She gets nuts with clones. If they kill her too many times before you get going then you can just clone their stuff or your other dragons.
>everyone thinks my Tifa deck is landslop>it's actually Counterslop
>>98875383>How can I abuse my graveyard thenDon't bother. Put in maybe the best free or synergistic graveyard interaction in your deck, but unless you are full all in on your graveyard, you do not abuse the yard as much as the landslop player does. Shutting off all yards and preventing the landslop player's recursion is better for you than losing value in your one-of eternal witness or whatever. There's also Leyline of the Void for a non symmetric effect, if you really desire.
>>98875401Infect is good against landfall and bad against removal.dec
>>98875416>The one cardThere are lots of lifegain landfall cards>Just to counter my commanderLife gain isn't good in general? lol
>>98875425Full of lifegain and nothing else? What's your solution to infect then?
>>98875428see: >>98875262maze of ith also applicableconstant mistskor haven if you're real crazy
>>98875429>maze of ith and constant mists will stop proliferateRoru rumao
>entire strategy and mechanic rendered obsolete because le heckin wholesome chungus move commander to command zone :)
>Ugh why can't I build a deck that just counters everything?Because you'll be stuck drawing increasingly niche counters into matchups where they don't matter and because you forgot to make your deck actually win, all you'll accomplish is looking retarded.
>>98875431i won the game before turn 30 you're not winning off proliferating poison counters on me. you'd have to get the first counter there from a draft common because an infecter is not touching me. total meme build>>98875433have i got the card for you
>>98875437>if a commander would be removed from the battlefield you can choose to put it in the command zoneCountering commanders literally does not work in this meme format
>>98875444
>>98875437>an infecter is not touching meOh yes she will>but my oublietteKekaroo countered
>>98875433Depending on the pod sometimes I leave my commander in the o ring so the next board wipe frees them.
>>98875444Phasing doesn't cause your commander to change zones.
>>98875444Wait until I tell you what people do in 60-card formats (they play a second copy of the same creature).
>>98875444Anon, phasing does not remove them from the battlefield.They just simply do not exist.
>>98875447>ubslopi won from the start
Post your playmats
>>98875455>My moral victory is better than your literal victory
>>98875080Olivia's were bigger.
>>98875459*taps glacial chasm*
>>98875458
>>98875464I look like and do this
>>98874872My bestest little buddy from FFIX is a super strong commander and I couldn't be prouder of him.
>>98875460She’s a tranny with a giant futa dick.
>>98875467HMU if you ever leave New Capenna
>>98875471>tranny>futathese are not the same
>>98875474I don’t know the difference and frankly don’t care. Her original art looked like she had a giant dick as her legs were straight.
>>98875480>I don’t know the difference and frankly don’t care.based proud retard
>>98875480A tranny, as a man, who is pretending to be a woman.A futa, is a biological woman, who just happens to have a penis.
>>98875468Needs to be a game changer
>>98875471>>98875480You're just jealous hers is bigger than yours.
I cast storm cauldron.
>>98875493I cast storm herd
>>98875489Is this really why people say she's a tranny?
>>98875505no that's why they say she's futa
>>98875458Favorites are the Bob Ross and Blood Moon. I want an RKF mat at some point. Want more custom landscapes. Might get a custom one with some Shishkin art I think.
>>98874872>TQI really like Genji Glove. Double strike and extra combat as a colorless option for every deck is awesome.
>>98875525Incredibly based taste. Love the sneak attack. Where'd you get the bob ross mat at?Also love that plow art. Probably the new border art that temps me the most, not a whole lot of other good new arts for it.
>>98875549>Where'd you get the bob ross mat at?ultra pro shop i think
>>98874970I have an Oona deck that nominally mills but runs thoracle/demonic consultation too. I have an Atraxa deck that's got 10 or 11 planeswalkers you can't allow to ult along with a nasty poison package. I have a Niv Mizzet, Parun deck that aims to combo down the table with a curiosity effect and some "shuffle your hand and graveyard into your deck" type cards but can also burn directly or take 20 consecutive turns with spell duplication effects. I run Kiki-Jiki and Zealous Conscripts in an Aurelia deck that goes to combat repeatedly with powerful equipment. I think leaving yourself more than one option for achieving victory can endow medium-power decks with a flexibility that feels very fun to play, assuming that those options are all sensible in the broader context of the deck you're building. I wonder what the ceiling is for a deck running like 10 different wincons
>>98875458k
>>98874970Commander damage.Regular combat damage.Paying 50 life and doming them with Aetherflux Reservoir.Stalling the game long enough for them to get bored and go home.Roughly in that order from most to least common.
>>98875464Slasher smile and pleasing glow, good choice>>98875465Cute>>98875525Extremely based choices
>try to build a nice midrange deck>it's just a combo deck in disguise
>>98875605I think decks with a fluid mix of combat damage, stax, and combo are the soul of the format.
have had defense of the heart in my deck for a year and everytime i play it everyone shits their pants over it but ive only ever gotten low cmc silver bullet creatures off of it, never had a big fuckoff value dude to grab with it. deckbuilding error most certainly, putting at least nyxbloom ancient in the deck now.i would consider putting a two card creature combo in but i dont think it's really what the deck wants.
>>98875618I wish there was a card(s) that gifted must answers.>Kill that shit W>Instant>Exile target nonland permanent. This costs 3 more to cast unless you gift a Defense of the Heart token to an opponent.
>>98875625See that Rhystic Study over there? Now there's 3 of them.
>>98875618Wait isn't this literal total shit?
>>98875618I’ve used Tooth and Nail in a few decks recently. A very good card in my mono green ramp/voltron deck.
>>98875629It's entwined Tooth and Nail for 4 mana. All you need is one of your 3 opponents to be a timmy with 3 creatures in play on your upkeep, damn near impossible to find a pod where that isn't the case. Frankly if you play it on curve on turn 4 it's almost a guarantee someone's got 3 creatures in play already. You get any 2 creature cards from your deck in play from it.
>>98875618>everyone shits their pants over ityeah i wonder why anon. if you want the silver bullet just run nature's rhythm or eldritch evolution or chord. you're just forcing the pod to waste removal and punt it to someone else.
>>98875634Forgot my image
>>98875379Interestingly, the one beside the leader has a hairstyle like what I imagined, but the girl behind looks cute too. Good job! Perhaps I'll have to proxy your gobbos as well.
>>98875379AI images always have this weird gloss and sheen to them that you can always tell, and so far no model has removed it
>>98875379Feels like with some working this could be a Black Market Connections. Have you done one of those yet?
>>98875625>I wish there was a card(s) that gifted must answers.YOU GET AN ELDRAZIAND YOU GET AN ELDRAZIAND YOU TOO GET AN ELDRAZI!!!
>>98875636Defense of the heart only works against total morons; even for newbies, you pop off once with it, they'll never fall for it againYou'd think finding any two creatures to combo off would be great but it's held back by the fact that it's telegraphed and that people run less creatures the higher you go in power level
>>98875722>against total moronsYou have a fairly good chance of hitting at least one total moron in a sample size of 3 across all power levels.
>>98875720>opp attacks>blocks the other must answer with theirs to tradenice 6 mama do nothing, dumbo
>>98875722You can say this of literally any good card. DotH isn't that expensive and can be dropped on curve so worse case it eats removal for something more essential to your game plan, best case you throw out two powerful creatures for chump change. And it opens up some politics fun, where others can threaten - or bluff - to remove it if you use to find certain creatures but will let it ride if you only grab, say, some dorks.
>>98875792>You can say this of literally any good cardgood cards don't rely on your opponents being dumb and have certain things on their board just to make themselves work>DotH isn't that expensive and can be dropped on curve so worse case it eats removal for something more essential to your game planif you have a tooth in nail in hand, you didn't need defense of the heartif you don't have t&n and your doth was removed/played around, you're scramblingand t&n is a much better topdeck than doth especially when you only have an 8% chance of getting any specific card in your opening 8 meaning any card is more likely to be a late game draw than an early one
>>98875804you reek of no games
>>98875820doth is really tearing up the cedh meta frfr
>>98875829Talking about cards in context of b4/cedh is peak no games larping since nobody actually plays those brackets except the 4-5 weird troons at the lgs who are just engaging in an endless arms race against each other's decks.
>>98875856doth is really tearing up the casual meta that's why the meta archetypes are land based frfr
https://moxfield.com/decks/yv1P4EImoUOwgSdCPgO3yANeed to cut 6.
>>98875892what teh fug, this is Ilharg
>>98875899nuh-uh
>>98875900both look same
>>98875093I thought he didn't have any already, and he replied to himself? Which one is it?
>>98874872so a friend of mine is a fan of final fantasy and got pic related from some random in my lgs and wants to make a commander deck out of it.How should I tell him monoblack decks are expensive as fuck?
>>98875936Let him find out for himself as he builds his mana base.And then prints out proxies.
>>98875936This commander is broken af so it can actually make for a good budget deck (besides the cost of the commander). Just play one of the million plaguecrafter variants and you get an uninteractable blood artist, then it's just spamming tokens and edicts
>>98875613I remember some guy was forced by the lgs to remove this playmat from the table for being inappropriate back in 2018 during a gameday in the return to dominaria set.Also I remember one of the lgs in my city being temporarily banned for having a poster of pic related.Such weird times
>>98875465Nice playmat, very cool!
>>98875936how is edict tribal expensive?
>>98875983Kindred not tribal
>>98875966what the chud? can't believe anti-lesbian bigotry is still a thing in 2026 shaking my allah
>>98875966woke 1.0 was craaaazy amirite guys hahaha...
>>98876002>>98876020As Gandalf used to say: bean me up, leotardo!
>>98875966It was just too sexy for them. If it was too bull dykes who looked like guys instead of lipstick lesbians they wouldn't care.
>>98876044>first female nipples in mtg
>>98876020Shoeonhead IS Boxxy
Since when did we have pronouns on cards? How long you think until we got something like "put a +1+1 counter on xir"?
>>98876106like 30 years
>>98876106https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=o%3A%22%20her%20%22&advanced=it was only used very rarely in the past and is more common very recently
>>98876110I see, so they just used it for walkers formerly and now for creatures too, but only from UB with established gender I think
>>98876110>God-Eternal BontuLMAO, this one got errated to have pronouns, didn't have on original printing
The MTG manga that had ended will be having a short sequel run focusing on the game after Shadowmoor released.
>>98876222Shit, I need to catch up on this.
>>98876222>skipping KamigawaEven Japanese knew the OG Kamigawa suckass.
>>98876222the one with the shifty nerd (who's literally me) and the stacy who got attached to him (something that will literally happen to me yeah...) ended? I need to read it
>>98875465Where'd you get this?
>>98874893um, magic bros? why does pokemon mog us here?
>>98876222>>98876247I'd recommend against it. The psychological damage from realizing you'll never be playing tempest with your high school model crush, and instead you're stuck with star trek and pixie (formerly peter) on a wig, was too great for me
>>98874872>TQ: What is your favourite UB card?I love the whole Final Fantasy set, but single favorite card has to go to Sword of Bait and Hook.
>>98876260it's a shame the actual pokemon game itself is dogshit.Now riftbound is the game with promise
>>98875892Personally, I'd be going with more straight-up auras than creatures, since Kaima's going to get big fairly quickly if you can get them out enough. I'd probably include more options for adding Trample so it can get the last hits in when you want. Maybe even Trailblazer's Boots to be unblockable. I'd definitely put more focus on that than Managorger Hydra and Forgotten Ancient.If you want more Treasure generation than just Magda, you could include Puppet Master, String Puller. Shiny Impetus might not go amiss there, either.Instead of or beside Bedlam, you could try Bothersome Quasit for unblockability and more goading.As far as your card draw goes, outside of a couple of power/damage-based draw options, I'd remove most of it (especially the wheel unless you have bigger plans for it) and instead dip lightly into some Enchantress stuff like Tanglespan Lookout, Verduran Enchantress, and Setessan Champion to make all the auras be cantrips or more.And in case you aren't in a position to close out the game with your commander by the time it gets down to a 1 on 1, Hot Pursuit ought to give you the edge to win.
>>98876260>>98876294PokemonTCG has a lot going for it, I respect it. I really like the video-game version, PokemonTCG Live.I like Riftbound too, but to be honest, I made some decks and played them a handful of times, and now they just sit on the shelf. If Riftbound had an official video game version I would be all over it.An unfortunate truth about why I play Commander is that playing 1v1 games, especially at an LGS setting, is a lot more intimidating than the '4 player free for all' casual experience that is Magic.
>>98876481the actual pokemon tcg itself is too basic for me to have any interest, it knows it's intended audience, 5 year olds, and doesn't pretend otherwise with gameplay complexity.It's the same reason as why they won't make pokemon video games with any base difficulty or complexity
>>98876481I can't imagine playing commander really consistently with randoms, I play it with friends i've played with for years, yeah that doesn't happen often, but it is easier to play a proper 1v1 "spike" gamemode with strangers where you are on the same page than facing horrible rule 0 discussions
>>98876503This is really the only way to play commander. Broadly managing expectations for a casual format is nearly impossible and brackets are not doing a good job of it. You simply need to know like minded people to have a good experience with this format.
>The vast majority of the Star Trek UB set looks like someone applied an AI filter over screencaps of the show and sent it to printHas there ever been a more doomed set?
>>98876546Aether drift was pretty bad
>>98876498I can appreciate why you would say PokemonTCG is basic. However, I think the 1v1 gameplay of PokemonTCG is better than the 1v1 gameplay of Magic in current-day (standard format Magic, I don't consider other 60-card formats). PokemonTCG cards are designed with more intention, there are lots of 'engine pieces' that only work 'in-engine. There are more constraints on what can happen and what you can do.In 1v1 Magic formats, it feels like WOTC gives literally no thought, they just make cards with AI-generated art-work and text-boxes, and just diarrhea-dump it into Standard. There is no such thing as an engine or an archetype in 60-card formats, you just play piles of good-stuff. Or maybe you have a 2-card combo in your deck, and that's the "engine".I actually prefer that Pokemon has more defined engines, because at least the deck has cohesion, and you don't have mix/matches of different Universe-Beyond cards just because your deck is full of goodstuff.
>>98876294>Give it this -1 this turnMagic doesn't have "until end of turn" copyrighted.
>>98876615you actually can't copyright or trademark the game mechanics at all, just the names of things, and names that are too generic fail to hold up to copyright or trademark standards, so orc, goblin, elf, mana, mage, etc... are all open to be taken.So any game could decide to be mechanically identical to MtG if it wanted, and terminologically almost identical (I think pl;aneswalker is unique enough to be trademarked/copyrighted) just have to make up different unique universes, the various UW planes are all off-limits for copying.
>>98876632I know, which is why its dumb its worded in such a clunky way.
>>98876632They can be patented, though, and they were, but utility patents can't extend longer than 20 years
>>98876635on a similar note, I, like many others, lament what has happened to EDH since wizards monetized it and then took control of it as Commander.But that name change opens up the nice possibility of reviving EDH as it's own separate thing outside of wizards Commander ecosystem.My thoughts were on three points.A) making it understood that just like with Canlander, proxies are to be ubiquitously allowed, this prevents wizards from monetizing the format and great reduces the ability for them to fuck with it.B) an identity shift "Commander" would need to become something like "General" so that it is mechanically distinct and no cards that reference a Commander could have those abilities or mechanics function to disrupt the format, so deflecting swat would not be castable for free, command tower would produce no mana, backgrounds and partners wouldn't work, etc...C) and finally the only real novel element, and this one to fight back against all the made-for-commander legendary creatures, simply allow any creature to be made into the General of the deck.I would also think a points list like Canlander instead of a banlist would be good though it would likely need to be a different list as multiplayer has different power priorities than 1v1, but it could also just be an expanded list.But that first point, ubiquitous tolerance and encouragement of proxies is whta keeps canlander from being sanctioned and monetized, so that's important.
>>98876635riot did a bunch of changes to formatting like having cards in first person for their actions, it was just their style rather than copyright (not saying its a good style lol)
No good art for this one. Also not sure of the abilities.
>>98875656I had the image genned for awhile, just things kept jumping the queue for formatting.
>>98876705I wish this was real, I hate that all the equip cost reduction stuff is either White or Boros, my Alexios deck needs the power man!
>>98876726That's not a reduction.
>>98876678A splinter format that doesn't use any cards that reference a commander sounds pretty cool. I've also been thinking about edh with only cmc>=7 commanders allowed. Of course there's still creatures with affinity that would kind of skirt that rule but I think it'd be fun to see whether or not it would slow a casual table down at all.
>>98876729I don't know why I read that. My mistake, thanks anon. It's really been on my mind lately.
>play nature's revolt>now nobody can play boardwipes>run away with the game with my tokens deckTry this one simple trick
>>98876742I've seen players who throw down boardwipes even when it utterly cripples themselves solely because it cripples everyone else, especially the motherfucker who locked the game down.
>>98876742I genuinely don't see any issue with this. They can just not cast boardwipes.
>>98876726Im surprised there haven't been any Nintendo crossovers yet. Either they haven't asked yet/its a WIP, or Nintendo doesn't want to associate with WotC.LoZ would sell like hot cakes.
>>98876742The fuck I can't. I'm in white, I have ways to protect my board from wipes for days.
>>98876286Glad I managed to get a set of those tokens in non foil back when they were out for "only" $50. Pretty sure just the Angel alone is worth more than that.
>>98874893imagine ur whole ass race being called betazoid lnfao
>>98876742Go ahead. Make your lands into 2/2's. I don't give a fuck.
>>98876731Assuming the canlander points system, just make every powerful built-for-commander legendary 10 points, then you can have them as general but likely none of their engine pieces, ramp or tutors in the deck.make thoracle, tainted pact and demonic consultation 6 points each so you can't have that full combo, and so on.
Any fun things to do with shirei besides rats?
>lost my playgroup>don't want to go to lgsThinking about selling my cards. Thoughts?
>>98876815>lost my playgroupWhat did you do?
>>98876815Were you excited about any releases of the past 5 years or are you looking forward to any of next year's releases with great enthusiasm? If the answer to both of these is no you are ready to sell your shit and move on.
HEY, GAYBOLAS-PRO-UB TARD ANON, YOU IN HERE?WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? I THOUGHT UB WAS LE HECKIN BASED?AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA ARE YOU ENJOYING YOUR INFINITE DIVERSITY?Fucking sperg.
>>98876815Keep at least 1 deck in case you ever want to start playing again. Try playing at your LGS at least one time before giving up.
>>98876815I'd say it's a good time to sell your stuff and move on, there's not much to gain here
any tips on spotting counterfeits of old cards? like a cheap loupe to buy and whatnot? I want to buy some RL cards
>>98876294Oh, another game for Riot to work on just long enough to get people interested then drop it like a hot nickel ball like Legends of Runeterra and 2XKO... If you want to play a dead game, go play Android: Netrunner.
>>98876845it doesn't take a rocket scientist, you just need a x20 or so loupe to look at a few of the elements on the back of the card like the green dot, just look up common elements no fakes get right
>>98876815How did you lose your playgroup? What's wrong with the LGS? And did you like ANY of the UB sets that came out recently? Plz answer honestly, my response is based of off these answers.
>>98876834>Star Trek card references one of its oldest phrases, "Infinite diversity in infinite combinations" >get ass blasted because you're too stupid to see the world as anything but your retarded culture warYou really should just fellate a shotgun and put yourself out of our misery.
>>98876845One of the easiest ways to spot one is how shiny they are.
>>98876834Since I'm black I can enjoy this right?
>>98876834>infinite diversity>but here's the black man front and center while the white man is pushed out of frame
>>98876705Alternate version let me know what you prefer.
>>98876865I thought I was the only black anon in these threads. That's funny.
>>98876865No, because that isn't the correct uniform for the graduate to be Tuvok.
>>98876865>>98876875How does it feel that wotc only think your people are fat and ugly?Isn't it more racist than depicting you as tribals, which you ancestorally still were like white barbarians or Vikings?
>>98876827>>98876857They found my racist twitter account, and they're libby enough to soft kick me. Not that interesting.>>98876829Last set I cared about was FF. I've been playing for 20ish years at this point. Have enough cards I could wipe out my non-mortgage debt. Pretty tempting ngl, but I would miss some decks. >>98876840I've thought this, but I want to keep so many of them.>>98876857Don't like playing with randos and I'm not the most sociable person. Too old to make new friends.>>98876841You might have a point, haven't payed attention to any new sets this year aside from Lorwyn.
>>98875629How do you figure?
>>98876890>They found my racist twitter accountLOL did you use the same username or some shit
Nobody deserves a (You) for this, but for 9 mana and mythic rare you figure we could have gotten art of a bunch of different alien species all at battle stations on a federation ship's bridge instead of a blurry graduation ceremony.
What's some blue/black goodstuff for a Royal Kidnapper deck if I'm *not* going all in on stealing as many of my opponents creatures as possible, but just want to make a deck thats disruptive and annoying at a 4 person table? Winning is nice if it happens, but the real goal is to just make shit happen that screws with other people's plans in interesting ways.So far I have a decent amount of Goading and other stuff that forces opponents to attack, combat tricks like Observed Stasis and Sudden Spoiling, and creatures and effects that bounce between controllers like Kain and Assault Suit.
>>98876885I don't give a fuck about the art on the cards unless it's a card I mechanically care about. I care infinitely more about what a card DOES than how it looks. There are a couple of exceptions when it comes to some of my deck's themes but in those cases, I proxy. It just seems to me you're just being a crying sperg bitch. I'm here to play the game.
>>98876294Riftbound is also dogshit to play which is why riot put so much emphasis on prizing structure. Most games are decided by T3 but can't end on T3
>>98875629You're supposed to fetch it off Academy Rector.
>>98876891why is it the final fantasy commander set sepcifically
>>98876890well if you're racist (aka don't want a gorillion somalians pouring into your hometown aka normal) they've made it pretty clear this game is not for us. You can either try to form a private playgroup or take this chance to finally be free. Maybe post your commanders so we can help you decide 1 or 2 decks to keep for nostalgia's sake?
>>98876890>They found my racist twitter account, and they're libby enough to soft kick me>Don't like playing with randos and I'm not the most sociable person. Too old to make new friendsJust sell your fucking cards, Jesus. That last part is especially worth you killing yourself. I'm 40 and I still make friends, you're just and anti-social freak.
>>98876910>It just seems to me you're just being a crying sperg bitch. I'm here to play the game.Genuinely was asking about your insight on your representation, but sure prove the stereotype of overly angry black people.
>>98876918He's using twatter and buying UB, anon only thinks he's racist.
>>98876885Honestly I do not care about social politics I just like playing magic
>>98876907Notion ThiefScheming SymmetryArchnemesisRedirectMisleading Signpost
>>98876926>nigga is WHEEZING just by standing therelmao
>>98876885>The left is often as racist, if not more racist than the rightVery astute observation anon. Sadly, the only people white people listen to are white people, so even if black people found it offensive, wotc wouldn't care.
>>98876926You all cry over it more than I ever even think about it. I'm not mad, I'm just frustrated. Don't you ever get bored? Tired? Like, at all? I just wanna play the game man.
So, is there any reason for anyone at a multiplayer table to EVER attack a Battle card other than its controller? It seems like a cute idea, but I just don't see why someone would attack a battle card instead of the opponent's life points directly if only the person who cast the battle in the first place gets anything when it dies.
>>98877009No. Not like you get the flip if you kill it, though you should.
>>98877009Politicking, of course. Battle Controller offers you something you want, you judge it worthwhile as you can either compel the deal or otherwise know the offer is trustworthy.Of course, judge with a discerning eye. Rarely is it going to be completely in your favor to aid another, but do not think yourself immune to desperate measures.
>>98877009>So, is there any reason for anyone at a multiplayer table to EVER attack a Battle card other than its controller?only in specifics. for example, the table needs to kill an important creature with two toughness and the owner of invasion of kaldheim shows he has a land card he can discard if you just flip his battle for him
>Play theft>Slowly start realizing how terrible everyone else's decks are>Flip 18 cards no enchantment removal and lose because Case of the Locked Hothouse got to liveI'm slowly starting to realize why people build theft as "I take everyone's commander then play stax the whole game"
i think the problem is to effectively cram enough removal into a deck you either need to have highly efficient draw engines, a well supported theme that naturally has removal attached to pieces, or a really generic or compact thing that your deck does.
>>98876705that card SUCKS
>>98876742O fuck I need this in Sarulf
>>98876804oof
>>98877047You shouldn't expect to use other people's removals when you build theft.
>>98877078This. Theft is relying intrinsically on an inconsistent pool of cards made even more inconsistent by literally changing depending on your opponent. You bring draw, ramp and interaction from home.
>>98876705This reminded me that while I was making my Wick deck I was investigating the most efficient equip-cost-to-power ratio of all equipment and discovered that (other than Grafted Wargear) Heirloom Blade was the most efficient and unconditional cost despite having an incredibly useful effect. I've never really played equipment voltron archetypes before and I found it really surprising. I've always thought it felt really good to use just as a way to make sure I always have a creature available, depending how you make your deck it can even be used as a tutor.
>>98877089Love it, awesome art too
Thinking of throwing together this guy with living weapon mechanics cards and having a flicker subtheme. Obviously the best ones are the cheap For Mirrodin pieces, as you get a 2/2 token out of it each time. Are there any obvious mass flicker for equip synergies I'm missing? I've got>Silver Surfer>Nahiri's Resolve>Hide on the Ceiling>BragoI could obviously slot in Displacer Kitten, but he's such a slop card. And the second you run any sort of Urza-adjacent effect in the deck you're bound to go infinite even on accident.
Here's the alternate commander. Opinions?
>>98877160Yorion, Sky Nomad is the only mass artifact flicker that comes to mind that you're missing.But do consider Sigarda's Aid if you're dribbling equipment in particular.
>>98877184Yeah, I thought about Yorion but of those listed he's probably the worst. I was unsure if my scryfall-ing wasn't giving me something based off some weird wording on a card maybe. Sigarda's Aid isn't fantastic if most of the cards are living weapons. Most of the equipment is going to auto-attach to a creature already and be somewhat subpar.
anyone got a trove link for MtG novels? specifically looking for the four lorwyn cycle books but not in pdf format, my poor ereader cant really handle the 25mb shadowmoor pdf
>>98877202>trovelibgen my friend
>>98877198>Sigarda's Aid isn't fantastic if most of the cards are living weapons. Most of the equipment is going to auto-attach to a creature already and be somewhat subpar.That's why Sigarda's Aid helps, it lets you decide how to voltron your pieces. You can go wide onto many germs, tall onto one, or exercise judgment how you like.Also, effectively giving all your pseudo-creatures flash is good to begin with.
>>98877204I searched annas archive and only the first is in epub, the other three are there but as pdf and it takes 3+ minutes to turn a page on my pocketbook.
>>98877218Yeah, I agree it has utility. I just think it'll be a bit clunky in terms of how the deck is structured. There's some weird bottlenecks for this sort of deck and figuring out how to make it gel. You're also in 5c so there's a surfeit of "equipment goodstuff" utility pieces; all of them, in fact. Factor in the slots that the theme of the deck eats up and only the real cream of the crop will be able to fit.Real reason I'm running the deck is this though.
>>98877078Yeah my bad I should have just built a theft deck that doesn't rely on my opponents at all.
>>98877271>I didn't run any removal myself>I got hosed because I built my deck badly >You're the dumb one for suggesting I run my one suite of interaction
>>98877285Yeah retard I guess I'll structure my theft deck to contain its own draw, ramp, removal, and wincons because if I expect my opponents to have any of those I'm the retard.
>>98877313Surely you jest.
>>98877313NTA and I know you're being sarcastic but...Yes. Exactly this.
>>98874970I usually win with combat damage. but I have two combo decks I usually only pull out when some of the dudes im playing with have too much of their heavy hitter shit. one is Samug + Pestilence the other one basically makes infinite mana and makes everyone draw out of their deckthe other dudes I usually play with most wins come from thousands of ping triggers like sac an artifact deal 1 damage to each opponent and doing that with 500 tokens and other group slug type things I guess is what it would be called. >>98875117she literally calls Kefka a faggot>>98875628this is quite a fun card actually >>98875720cedh sloppa >>98875936they're not expensive at all and if he wants Urborg + Cabal Coffers just tell him you can get fake copies. fake it til you make it. mono color decks are all inherently cheaper have him add:>al bhed salvagers>phyrexian arena>black market connections >toxic deluge>Ashdod's altarand whatever other shit he wants. more expensive get field of the dead for zombie tokens or whatever to sac "for the REUNION">>98875966this didnt happen nor are her tits that large but 2018 was about when the woke mob was intensifying up to its 2020 Lab Leak-era peak which we are currently still recovering from (we as in me and the turd in my pocket)>>98876106>xirhasbro won't let them do this. up until now other than promotional or certain direct-to-consumer things like SLD only showed the super overtly LGBTQ+P propaganda. printing political language directly on a core product will not fly with Hasbruh>>98876742that would be your fault for blowing up everyone's lands and you would earn a game loss from le mythical commander judge (in an unsanctioned format) for breaking Gavin's Grooming Tipsalso, pic rel. nuthin' personnell kid
>>98877331>I know you're being sarcastic but...Are you sure he is?
>>98877313Yes; exactly. Expecting to steal what you need when you need it is fundamentally a mistake; you need enough of your own bullshit to work with.Good news for you: With the number of repeatable theft effects and the nature of taking other player's cards to do stuff, you have a massive amount of free space in your deck for exactly the kind of things you need.
>>98876722This is trash
>>98877357You just hate women.
>>98877370I hate slop
>>98877372That's what I just said.
>>98876871Very interesting idea but I don't think it's particularly good (as in "drawback fundamentally undermines the idea in a way that makes it hard to make strong without being overpowered").
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98877327>>98877331>>98877356Okay you brainless niggermonkey I'll pack all my core resources into my own deck oh wow suddenly I'm playing 3c goodstuff instead of theft I wonder how that happened maybe I listened to some retard on the Internet saying to not use my opponents' cards in theft.
>>98877404>Play monoblack theft>Have writhing tortment and feed the swarm in my deck>Oh wow, I'm still stealing a lot and have answers for problematic enchantments in my deck. That was hard.
>>98877404Don't bother. This is the same general that has idiots who will say MLD is a necessary part of the game and that no deck should rely at all on their commander. You're legitimately talking to the people that play catslut and Vivi then think that makes them good at the game.
>>98877419and what do you suggest I replace for this, hm? May I perhaps see your monoblack theft deck that's built well?
>>98877404In any other deck you'd run interaction and draw minimum; how the fuck do you figure you're so special that you get to fill your entire deck with increasingly garbage theft cards with no support or staples?Is this some kind of bet or joke? Are you trying to prove you're too dumb to play Theft?
>>98877429>Hurr hurr hurr I'm retarded and think theft is putting Etali in the deck and calling it a dayThis is how you sound.
>>98876834Media illiterate post
>>98877404If you complain that your gamble didn't pay off when you play cards that depend entirely your opponents' luck/deckbuilding skills, I really can't help you other than say "run some of your own removals that you can always rely on".
>>98876834Why would a gay Bolas poster also be pro-UB? If anything wouldn't he be anti-UB because he wants to see more of his crack ship?
>>98877437>nooooooooooo my deck is special, I get to run all the cards I want and don't have to take anything to deal with other decks or get to the massive shitpile I've made>anyways /edhg/ how the fuck do I stop losing
>>98877445You know what? Honestly, fair enough.
>>98876715ew, ai
>>98877447>Retarded niggermonkey fails to grasp basic deck premise as a concept because he's so brainrotted by playing nothing but decks that tutor Rhystic Study
>>98877425https://archidekt.com/decks/12266496/lord_of_theftSure.
i put gamble in every deck with red in it
>>988774552 cards in and I can already close it because you're clearly retarded.
>>98877454Nigga I play mono white equipment voltron and no-thoracle no-maniac mill; you don't get to tell me I don't know how to build on theme.
>>98876903no you don't get it it HAS to be black people because..IT JUST HAS TO OK?
>>98877404Nigger how the fuck don't you have removal in theft? Half of theft is just removal.>steal enchantment>deadpool>gilded drake
>>98877461>Commander makes artifact tokens>Draw that synergizes with that and multi target creature removal that synergizes with that is bad.>Says the guy whining because he can't fathom how to put interaction into his own deck.
>>98877463>Monowhite voltron>The color with 2 voltron commanders that instantly fix draw power for you with further cards that give infinite manacheat on equip costs>This makes you skilled somehow
i play mono white voltron too :3
>>98877476Yeah okay retard keep living in Christmasland where your commander makes 6 treasures for an affinity card then trying to give advice online.
How do I train my threat assessment and learn when to pull the trigger on a wincon? Obviously play more but I play tons and these are my glaring weak points. I usually get my wins through bullshit and manipulation, not letting them see how completely lost in the board state I am. I want to be a good player on a technical level.
>>98877422MLD IS a necessary part of the game thootherwise they will ban my discard deck next if people complain enough about it
>>98877463>no-maniac millI made a momir vig labman edh when labman came out, it's like bracket 2 in current terms and the whole theme is a crazy simic experiment.Haven't played it in years because of the bad reputation labman and thoracle have developed.I loved that deck =/
>>98877484If you bothered to look further into the deck you'd see it has a lot more means to make treasures and more artifacts, but again, you don't think interaction is useful in theft, so nothing you can say will prove you aren't the bigger retard here.
>>98877498>Uh actually I have other ways to reach Christmasland for one shitty card in this deckKeep self-reporting that you were dropped on your head as a child.
>>98877480Bitch; and I ain't the nigga who ain't got any enchantment removal in three colors. If you were mono-black god rest your soul you only got Withering Torment and Feed the Swarm, poor fucking baby.
>>98877505>Needs infinite manacheat to hold his hand then tries to speak in public
>Add an old classic card to my moxfield deck>Defaults to a ninja turtles or marvel print of the cardI HATE THIS SHIT
>>98877516>is that an equipment commander that has an effect that synergizes with equipment? i'd better sit my no-removal no-interaction ass down or i'm toast
>>98877519is there any way with moxfield or any of the other deck building sites to have the card previews default to something that isn't shitty ub slop? especially with so many old cards getting reprints purely in ub slop it's a really fucking annoying problem
>>98877523>Ugh why is this person playing a worse archetype talking about its weaknesses? Doesn't he realize he should be stuffing his deck with cards that his commander removes the manacost of? God I'm so smart.
>>98877531If you honestly think theft is worse than monocolor voltron it's not even funny to make fun of you anymore; you should go talk to the guy who built your deck for you and have him teach you the game.
Methinks it's a bit hypocritical for someone playing "Removal check: the deck" to talk about running removal.
>>98877527default? no but on tappedout you can specify the printing to display and whether or not it's foiled, etc...It's meant to accurately display your actual collection 1:1 if you choose to put in the effort.
>>98877539>Oh woe is me I'm so oppressed with my commander that provides infinite manacheat and got an entire exception to itself in the bracket system so it could kill people on turn 3 it's so hard playing this archetype that gets support literally every set because I'm restricted to the color with the best protection and best equipment support
>>98877543Who are you talking about you vague posting schizo
>>98877543I think the people who would most know the value of removal are the ones that base their entire deck around beating it, ie the voltron players. Saying run ample removal or you will get your face smashed in because you don't is fair.
>>98877560No I don't really think so.
>>98877483I haven't played my Light-Paws deck since the Bracket system was invented. What bracket is Light-Paws generally considered to be?
>>98877566Depends slightly how you build her, I guess. Apparently if you try and win before turn 6 you're out of bracket 3 because the commander rules committee is a bunch of faggots, and even with no ramp whatsoever you can swing and murderize multiple people before turn 6 with light paws. And do it with great protection too if you're not stupid and run all the good protection creatures and auras. So sure, you can probably say you're bracket 4 and compete with bracket 4 losers. Run good stax while you're up there.
>>98877543As a person how has a Voltron deck himself, no it's not. I routinely tell people to make sure have remove for me, because if they don't, they will just fucking die. Of course, I try to always have protection but that because I expect everyone to have removal saved just for me. And of course, I have removal for problem strats I encounter in my meta, because that's smart.
>>98877581Yeah this reinforces why I think it's hypocritical for voltron players to talk about removal.
>>98877589Can you explain your reasoning/thinking? Genuinely curious.
Can I upload a deck here for feedback? I've played magic before but not commander and was going to proxy a deck to try out
>>98877668Yeah absolutely, best to put it on a site like moxfield and link it for best results. Good luck with the feedback though
>>98877595When you're the player removal checking the table you're the demographic least-qualified to accurately assess how much removal the average deck should run.For example in this discussion where the argument was "just run Feed the Swarm/Withering Torment" the odds of drawing either is extremely low (EV is 0.22 copies of enchantment removal by turn 4). That's not really an adequate solution and at that point it's unironically correct to just not run the removal and go all-in on digging for answers out of your opponents' decks because theft is typically able to get much higher deck penetration through their opponents than their own deck (depending on the method used, "theft" is a super broad label that actually encompasses 4 play patterns, but the most common one is embodied primarily by Outrageous Robbery where it's very efficient selection offset by how mana-inefficient actually casting anything is).Voltron exacerbates this because voltron players seem to be under the assumption that being able to go off always means that their opponents are on Swords+Path and nothing else, but in reality opening removal consistently means you have to run 14-15 pieces to see it in your mulligan. So the burden placed on opponents is 14 points of interaction that broadly don't advance your own gameplan (those that do tend to be comically overcosted to the point they're no longer effective as removal, there's some exceptions but they're rare and definitely not common enough to make up even half of a 14-card removal package). Meanwhile voltron is typically running protection cards that naturally slot into its strategy which means now you're demanding multiple removal pieces from your opponents to compensate for protection that is frequently good enough to be a card you would include even if it didn't have protection stapled on (e.g. Sword of X and Y). It's ignoring inequality in the statistical contribution cards make to a deck.
>>98877684Meren graveyard/lands deck because I like grave shenanigans, aiming for strong bracket 3https://moxfield.com/decks/mUQzI9VBZE6EywwN5YmS9w
>>98877694So basically you're crying about having to run enough removal for problems you face? You're crying about having to spare slots so you don't lose? If you don't adapt, you die. It's that simple. If by your own reckoning, if you need 14-15 pieces to stop the voltron player, then run them or die. Not every card needs to advance your gameplan directly, sometimes you just need to eat your veggies and have the cards or die. It that simple.
>>98877744I'm glad I spent that time explaining to you the math behind something only for you to respond with an emotional argument. You have once again reinforced my claim.
>>98877694If it's theft decks specifically it's very recommended that you run protection and removal of multiple kinds solely because depending your entire gameplan on your opponents' luck is inconsistent. Using your own deck is always reliable, though, so a deck built around such things is all control, lockdown, and draw or die embarrassingly with your hand in the cookie jar called "your opponents' stuff".
>>98877749I find it funny you think this is emotional for me, when it isn't at all. All your math proved to me is that, if I'm in a meta with a Voltron player, I need to make sure 14-15 cards of my deck are removal of some sort to deal with them. I'm sure I can make at least a few fit my deck's gameplan but I'm ok with running generic removal. Thanks for the tip, sad how you don't follow your own advice.
Go on. Tell me it's busted. I tried making messing with lands fair and flavorfull.
>>98877763The central premise of theft is that it's not reliable. Every single facet of the deck you're not outsourcing undermines the original premise behind playing theft. The best "theft" ever was was the brief period right after OG Emrakul released and everyone was running it so 1x Bribery in any blue deck meant you won the game. However that's also not exactly what people would envision when they say "theft deck" despite it being a deck that wins off an opponent's card. What you're suggesting is just a control deck.
>>98877771If you want to keep burying your head in the sand to act smug, go ahead. All this does is prove voltron players want everyone else to cater to them but they're unable to handle what happens once they start getting edict looped.
>>98877781If you're in it for fun then sure, steal to your heart's content. If you actually wanna win, you're gonna need more than "I sure hope my opponent packed something good". Like all gambling, it's great IF you win and hit the jackpot. It's gonna suck when you don't hit the jackpot and now someone is very irate and coming over to punch your face into next week.
>>98877775I'm confused by the design of Woodfall Temple. Why does a green land deal a bunch of direct damage and turn things to swamps?
>>98877717That's a whole lot of your main strategy but not a whole lot of ways to protect it at instant speed. I'd suggest finding a way to fit in Heroic Intervention and maybe Tear Asunder just to snipe common sights like Grafdigger's Cages and RIPs.Also you're playing black, find a way to fit Dark Ritual.
>>98877837Woodfall Temple is literally located within a Swamp, idk why this dumbass didn't just make the land a Swamp
>>98877775I'm not sure if I quite understand the theme of land hate on the land cycles here. Largely, they seem like the best case scenario is that there's some combo to turn one of them into a really annoying stax piece. Stone Tower Temple is neat for flipping at least.
>>98877775The main thing about lands is that the effects on them are typically extremely weak and intentionally comically overcosted even relative to what would be safe printing on a 1-drop. Look at War Room for example which is one of the best draw lands ever printed and it's still {3}, {T} and it costs life on top of that.Woodfall Temple for example is repeatable, off-color Price of Progress on-rate. This would likely be 5+ mana on a land (compensating for the fact it's repeatable and there's almost no opportunity cost for putting the card in your deck).Snowhead Temple technically isn't overpowered but it's a type of effect that just wouldn't be printed anymore today because D&T isn't exactly a play pattern people enjoy. Would likely be 3-4 mana instead of just 2.Great Bay Temple needs a bit of a wording update for what I assume is the intended effect. It comes off as Snowhead Temple but worse though. That being said I think Great Bay Temple might be printable in some form albeit likely in a Modern Horizons set (compare Dampening Sphere).Stone Tower Temple is comically broken both halves individually are an effect that's like 7+ mana if you want it repeatable on a land.
is my deck considered Bracket 3 if I have the Memnarch +liquimetal torque/coating?
>>98877838>Tear Asunder just to snipe common sights like Grafdigger's Cages and RIPs.I've got Foundation Breaker, Assassins Trophy, Vraska, Insidious Fungus and Maelstrom Pulse for noncreature removal i thought that would be enough. Did consider Heroic Intervention since there's not much protection but not sure what Id cut
>>98877853It is a great combo but I don't think it's infinite so it'll stay bracket 2. Torque especially is some good shit, it ramps on top of helping memnarch steal shit.
This is about as dumb as "basic lands should be free" and "mail doesn't come on Saturday" to the point it has to be performative.
>>98876856>>98876862ty anons found one on amazon
>>98877873>I've got Foundation Breaker, Assassins Trophy, Vraska, Insidious Fungus and Maelstrom Pulse for noncreature removal i thought that would be enoughOf those, the only one that comes out at instant speed is Assassin's Trophy, meaning there's a good chance your strategy can be upended permanently before it comes back to your turn.Also, they're all Destroy effects. Indestructibility is a thing, and your enemies can play the recursion game too. Making sure something stays gone has value, though I admit your main concern is gonna be RIP and enchantment recursion is not nearly so common (enchantments are usually protected by shroud and the only way you're gonna hit them then is with Back to Nature or Fade from History, rather niche selections).
>>98877775I want an enchantment land and I don't give a rat's ass how busted it would be or how much you cry
>>98877792>they're unable to handle what happens once they start getting edict looped.That doesn't happen to me. Use real removal.
>>98877899Ah yeah forgot Tear Asunder is exile that could be useful. Grafdiggers Cage and RIP are pretty brutal but wasn't sure how often explicitly hateful cards like that are run
>>98877837Woodfall Temple exudes poison in the game. The water there hurts to swim in, therefor damage for nobasic lands. This ability exists on green cards.>>98877842The color identity for this deck is bant. I therefor can't have black mana symbols but since it is literally inside a swamp I tried to relate to it. The surrounding land will be an actual swamp and appear in the Skull Kid deck.>>98877844The temples all mess with the surroundings in the game. I thought it would make sense to have literal land hate come from the temples.>>98877847Okay, I'll consider upcosting some abilities. With Snowhead I was torn between what I posted and just bouncing or exiling a creature (Darmani). I don't see how Great Bay needs a rewording but I am honestly not sure how. It's supposed to make islandwalk viable without actually granting the opponent U. The idea is that the water is murky.>>98877903Not sure I understand the request. But if you have any ideas, tell me.
>>98877913Yawn.
Doom has come for your EDH table...after I actually figure out a list...
>>98877775>Repeatable Sunspine Lynx on a green land that comes in untappedCan we please get the custom card general so these morons can go somewhere else.
>>98877781>Every single facet of the deck you're not outsourcing undermines the original premise behind playing theft.That's like saying you can't put plowshares in voltron because it isn't equipment. What the fuck are you talking about? You're allowed to put generic removal cards in your theme deck.>but I wanna draw into my opponent's removalIf all of your opponents are running 7-10 pieces of removal and you topdeck each of them twice, the EV of actually hitting that removal is 0.38-0.49. The removal EV of an actual removal card is 1.Drawing other people's removal is a cute idea, but you're not gonna hit as often as you think.
>>98877931>The temples all mess with the surroundings in the game. I thought it would make sense to have literal land hate come from the temples.I suppose that makes some sense, but while the curses themselves are environmental in nature, the problem is usually more about how it's affecting the people there. It especially doesn't make as much sense for Stone Tower temple, since the curse there is about angry spirits and restless undead.
>>98877961Mash ccg and ai slop together and they can both be happy in a containment thread thats at least has 10 posters
>>98877965Topdecking each of your opponents twice is the same as looking at 6 cards from your deck and only gets more extreme as you playing cards dedicated to deep penetration. This isn't even account for factors like how it's far easier for selesnya to have 7 enchantment removal than for rakdos to have more than 2.
>>98877899Oh how do you feel about the number of lands? I wasn't sure what was normal when factoring in the other creature mana sources and the curve
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>>98877990seethe
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>>98876804that's MLD auto banned
>>98878099Nah. MLD has to hit all players, including yourself.3 players isn't 4.
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>>98877986Knowing flip cards exist, there's no way I could resist using the mechnaic here. Like, come on. It's Stone Tower. It has to be a flip card. With regards to flavor: Clearing Woodfall unpoisons the Swamp, Clearing Snowhead unfreezes the mountains, clearing Great Bay (supposedly) makes the Ocean clear again. Clearing Stone Tower, however does NOT remove the undead from Ikana. I'd argue it's a special case and deserves a card that falls out of line.
>>98878106Cabbages aren't artifacts tho
>Cast a board wipe>Opponent flashes in Life in response>I destroy all of his lands>I'm sweating now>He calmly calls the judge>The judge, a 6'6" 300 pound tranny waddles over>Xa'am judge he did an MLD>The looks at me, a full on ketamine and fluoride stare>I don't say anything, I just get all of my cards onto the table and push them towards the player whose lands I destroyed>Since I did an MLD against him he gets my entire collection and I'm banned from the store
>>988781034 player edh is fucking boring, there's no real depth to the game, it's either free-for-all, the table gangs up on one guy or 2v2 (which is just 1v1)you need 6-8 players for the format to really shine.
>>98878109>unpoisons the Swampswamps aren't poison anon.
>>98878109>Knowing flip cards exist, there's no way I could resist using the mechnaic here. Like, come on. It's Stone Tower. It has to be a flip card.Yeah, I said as much initially. A Flip card makes perfect sense.The question is what tapping all the land has to do with Stone Tower, other than just making a generic land hate effect to fit in with the others.>ClearingIt's not like you're mechanically implementing the concept of clearing the dungeon anyway. Again, why is Stone Tower tapping all the lands, instead of flipping over while making zombie/spirit tokens or something?
>>98878122Cabbages are food. Food are artifacts.
>>98876772Name 15 ways
>>98877566Most voltron decks default to bracket 4 because the system is poorly designed
>>98877913In response, I conspire with the other players to always assign Alexios' full damage to our 1/1 blockers
>>98878069chat is this real? Why didn't you tell me about this
>>98878103I think you can't Armageddon with Heroic intervention in B3 anon
>>98878194You can't, but making lands into creatures and then boardwiping is still allowed on bracket 3.Especially when you aren't the person who made lands creatures. Gavin stated that example specifically.
>>98878190Because it's not a particularly notable card.
>>98878221Gavin let me cast natural affinity then wrath of god in B3? Based I didn't know
My friends that I play with haven't even heard of brackets and this thread makes me think it's a great thing
>>98878285>I'm 12 and what is this
>>98878285You're wrong.
>>98878138Stone Tower turns lands around as it rotates the world. I don't think I could've done it better than that. It making monsters makes about as much sense. Maybe as an ETB (opening the doos) but I don't have huge textboxes to work with here.Alternate ideas I had included:>Making the bottom half an enchantment that enchants player. Making him untap all tapped lands and vice versa or have all tapped cards be treated as untapped and vice versa.>Making all flying creatures non flyers and vice versa.>Inverting Mana costs (e.g. green mana becomes U/B. R/B becomes White.)>Something with an untap symbol.The idea is to invert the rules/battlefield in some way. I still think using lands and changing their state makes the most sense.
>>98878395Why?
>>98878406I've been on the side-lines and I've always wondered a pivotal piece of edhg lore.Is the guy who repeatedly posts the picture of Toski with no text "the gay bolas" guy, or is Toski-poster the "aggressively anti-gay bolas" poster?Did people care about him before he posted the Toski?
>>98878428I don't think he's either, but I also don't care.GaybolasProUBfag has taken it upon himself to replace swordtard as "biggest cancer on /edhg/" and that's all that matters.Never forget the time he threw a literal tard tantrum and spammed 2 threads back to back with random card images to try and hit image limit so he could make the next OP and put his precious gay furry porn link in it
>>98878179This literally never happens, I have personal experience.
>>98878428It's a bot.
>>98878475Every anon is gobanon
>>98878406But that's countered by the fact this exact thread was not made by gay bolas poster and still has "pro UB sperg".
>>98877775All of these are hilariously broken or useless>Woodfall is green and not black>Snowhead is white and not redWhat the fuck. do you know anything about magic or majoras mask?
>>98878478Maybe I need to take meds but I'm pretty sure UB fag is also the retard that would nonstop shit up threads bitching about proxies he just changed tactics because of diminishing (you)s
>>98878446>This againWe already proved it wasn't the gay bolas poster who did that. It was the other sperg trying to make his thread look more active.
>>98878221>>98878238The requirement is that *someone else* (not you) boardwipes and then *you* cast natural affinity, that way you can say that you didnt intentionally build your deck to regularly mld
>>98878497It's gobpedo, get it fucking right.
I'm Gobanon
>>98878540You do know that there are short adult women, flat adult women, short flat adult women, short stacked adult women, tall flat adult women and tall stacked adult women, right?Of course you do, but if you seethed at your own issues your ego would break so you must project.Anons goblins are awesome, get over it.
>>98878106>That flavor textThat's not even the quote can these gay retarded theater kids get anything right?
>you proxy cards? Ok i'll proxy art too>you printing edh staples isnt slop? Then generating AI art isnt slop either>you're poor so you have to proxy to be an mtg player? Ok i'm talentless so i have to proxy my art to be an artist>you dont want to be a piggie for wotc? Cool i dont want to be a piggie for artists either>you would download a car? I'd definitely gen up art hell yeahAI is the future and furries itt can seethe for all eternity
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>>98878669Your projection just gets more and more pathetic.Also green isn't necessary, they can be blue too!
>>98878681I'd like this if it was less goonerish and had the real magic symbols
This is pretty neat in NecroBloom I think
>>98878681Now post the flat ones I know exist
>>98878407The stone tower flipping is good but untapping lands for 3 white is giga busted unless you make it weird by making it trigger with untap and then just don't give it a mana ability
>>98878691It's obviously a black mana symbol, don't be a corpo-cultist.
>>98878770I get it. Here's a more novel idea where everyone flips over their library.
>>98878776I like my magic cards to look like magic cards. can't you just pretend they aren't the trademarked symbols on your etsy? I doubt anyone would rather you out
>>98877181Not about him really, but making transform cards for the 3 transformations masks would be cool to see.
>>98878783That's a lot better
>>98878785And what do magic cards look like? Because not even wizards/hasbro seem to know, there's something like 20+ different card frames now.Also complete card alters are tourney legal, the only requirement for a card is that the name and mana cost are present and that it's on official MtG cardstock.
If you don't put this in your deck your nongreen decks you are punting games to landfall.
>>98878804Wotc acting like retards with the readability of cards doesn't mean you should do it too.
>>98878829>hiredappointed, they don't get paid.well, the ones not working for mossad don't get paid.
>>98878791They do exist but weren't particularly popular either.
>>98878828I see so the goalpost has moved from "the cards need to look official" to "the cards need to match my personal taste because I, anonymous faggot #43978267846459, am the undisputed arbiter of MtG"
>>98878449In my experience playing pic related players are simply unaware they can over-assign trample damage onto creatures even if they're trying to work together against me.
>>98878847>Put the real symbols on it>WOW OKAY MAGIC NAZIInteresting response
Having Lich on the field and casting Ad Nauseum lets me draw my whole deck without sacing anything right?Reading Lich it only cares about damage and I always thought this card was neat
Hang on, they're actually making zelda cards? I just tuned in to see how the trek set was coming along and learned this. Zelda in mtg is a pipe dream I've been talking about for decades, and unlike trek or fallout it doesn't require mental gymnastics to fit in the setting
>>98878867No, anon is making custom cards
>>98878859A skull in a circle is the real symbol.And I would never accuse you of being a Natsoc, that's a high order compliment.
>>98878867Oh, how honored I feel.No, anon. These are just my own pipe dreams which I couldn't contain.
>>98878867No those are custom cards you can tell because there's no obnoxious alternate borders and such
>>98878861Yes, you could pick up your whole deck without saccing anything, but you still lose all the life that ad naus deals you and should still notate that should it become relevant. It probably wont if you've got your whole deck in your hand, but still.You can't pay life for effects that ask you to pay life with lich in play, like fetchlands, but just losing life from ad naus is fine.
>>98878878Well damn. I would want to kms if I wasn't so relieved that I don't have to drop a fortune on them. These are really good, anon.
It's another>polfag anon shits up the thread accusing every other anon of being the same anon that's doing the shit he's actually doingMy favorite thing is how hard he spergs out about the Toski anon/bot posting when it's the most innocuous easily ignorable ritual posting imaginable. Genuine retard.
>>98878871It looks like a cheap knock off if you're going to be so reductive about it you might as well go full silly and just use grim's head from billy and mandy.
>>98878867>Zelda in mtg is a pipe dream I've been talking about for decadeshasbro has a multi-year licensing agreement with nintendo which we will start seeing the fruits of in 2027 so the rumor does has merit to it
>>98878938>we will live to see Nintendo characters beating the shit out of lame mtg characters as canonSO LONG GAY BOLAS!
>>98878913"real" mtg cards look like cheap knockoffs, these look like artisanal bespoke treasures.
Hope y'all had a fun weekend! It's time to explore a strange new thread.>>98879012>>98879012>>98879012
>>98878822thanks king
>>98878558Fuck... Should I buy Auntie Ool's precon?
