(Deck) Diversity Is Our Strength! editionPrevious: >>98874872>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png (embed)https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png (embed)>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>tqDo you build decks with a variety of different playstyles, or do you just like building the same archetype with different commanders/colors?
>>98879012>Do you build decks with a variety of different playstyles, or do you just like building the same archetype with different commanders/colors?I thought I did different playstyles but it turns out I make decks that usually have one explosive turn where they win in one way or another.
>>98879012>non-BorgIs this a safety net to ignore changelings?
>>98879043It's both thematically appropriate and mechanically sound, they did the same thing in the past with non-brushwagg
>>98879043Yes, otherwise it's just x = 1000 or some shit
>>98879012>TQ I like trying out multiple different styles. I feel like that's what I like so much about Magic is that there's so many commanders to use that everyone can find something they enjoy.
>>98879012>TQI tend to build decks up from my spare cards which inevitably leads me back the same couple archetypes I've got bulk for. If I'm ordering something brand new I'll try to keep it fresh.
>>98879012>picI don't know how anyone looks at this shit and doesn't think Magic is over
>>98879099buy the product like a good gommie you anti-corporate chud
>>98879099newfag
>>98879055>thematically appropriateWrong, the federation has a number of borg serving in starfleet.
>>98879099>Magic is overYet here you are consooming Magic! Guess it's not as over as you think it is.
>>98879106Yes, magic has been over since war of the spark it's just gotten even more over in recent times.
How does my bro hold up in 2026? Too old and busted?
>>98879112some of us continue to play with our now old existing collections, playing a game is not the same as giving money to the corporation raping it's memory.I know it's hard for paypiggies to wrap their heads around this concept though.
>>98879106>no see they put gay leftoid shit in flavor text this one time nearly 10 years ago!!! It's totally the same!!!!
>>98879116not the worst option for a shadowborn apostles deck
>>98879111Regardless it is thematically appropriate to have a borg vs federation subtheme in the star trek MTG set.
>>98879112I'm not consuming it though because I have never bought any of your UB slop
>>98879122not when that mechanic directly states borg cant be in the federation.7 of 9.
>>98879119>no see mtg lore is totally serious and deep! it's totally on a higher level than spiderman and trek!!!daily reminder that UWfags lost bigly
>>98879123
>>98879124Sure, twittoid.
>>988791277 of 9 only joins when she was no longer borg, lorelet
>>98879129>proUB sperg is back immediately after the thread where people were getting posts deleted for saying proUBsperg and gaybolasfag are the same personReally makes ya hmmmm, don't it?
>>98879136clearly you've never watched the showbeing borg and being part of the collective are not the same thing, she is very specifically borg forever the show repeatedly made a big fucking deal about how she could never be unborged.
UB doesn’t have trannies.
>>98879124animefags have done more in gatekeeping trannies than any UWfaggot
>>98879116Much better if you can get him in before turn 5 obviously, which isn't too horribly unlikely as in you're in black. Even still though, if you've got a free sac outlet and a few value creatures (or creatures like ravenous rats) out, you can be living in money town every turn of a turn cycle. His main issue is of course the chance you overcommit and sac everything and he gets removed and suddenly you have nothing, and I believe we are in a time where there's a much higher density of removal in decks, so just be wary of that. It's a good reason to put more targeted or general discard in the deck or make it more part of the general gameplan so you can clear the way.
>>98879142>being borg and being part of the collective are not the same thing>but even though she's no longer part of the borg collective i will still refer to her being borg because that's her skin color duhyou may not agree with gene roddenberry, but afaik as he was concerned anything that could still be called borg in 7 of 9 is trivial and unimportant
>>98879139>anybody who thinks UW is laughably shit is the same personok schizo
>>98879143Love that this is your new cope now you can't say UB doesn't have "woke shit" in itIt literally always did by the way
>>98879158didn't he die before voyager
>>98879158>unassimilated>still very obviously has borg implants right on her fucking faceLol, nice try faggot.Also that's not 7, that fraud has no tits, like, at all.
>>98879166>4nigger thinks blacks = tranniesI’ll have a billion niggers on my cards if it filters trannies.
>>98879158Gene didn't create the borg.He didn't even like the borg.
>>98879176>unassimilated>still very obviously has borg implants right on her fucking face>Lol, nice try faggot.>Also that's not 7, that fraud has no tits, like, at all.
>>98879153>His main issue is of course the chance you overcommit and sac everything and he gets removed and suddenly you have nothing, and I believe we are in a time where there's a much higher density of removal in decks, so just be wary of that.Yeah that was my experience playing him 10 years ago. Targeted discard seems like a good solution but there ain't much of it that gets everyone so you sort of have to guess who's most likely to get you with the targeted pieces you do have.
>>98879177>I’ll have a billion niggers in my assVery progressive of you. At the end of the day, that's what "infinite diversity" is all about
>>98879124>>98879118>I'm not consooming product! I just use the product, talk about the product,.keep up to date about the product, emotionally invest in the product, and otherwise make the product a large part of my personality - but I'm not consooming the product!Whatever helps you sleep at night, tardanons.
>>98879190>NOOOOO SEE ACTUALLY IF I REDEFINE "CONSUMING" TO MEAN EVEN LOOKING AT A PRODUCT THEN YOU ARE CONSUMING IT AND I WIIIIIIIN!Uh. Right.
thots?
>>98879189I’m sorry that a cascade of niggers is more preferable to even one annoying tranny being pandered to.
>>98879200We get it, you love the BBC. You already got your race mixing cards and Infinite Diversity, you don't have to keep screaming for more
Honestly does anyone actually give a fuck about Star Trek? Who thought this would mesh well with magic?
>>98879188If you play with the same people enough, or if you're just real good at reading the room and commanders and their design decisions, you can get a pretty good feel who has the removal you're scared of, as a good starting point for your targeted discard.It's a shame he's not orzhov, you'd have access to Tidehollow Sculler. You don't have to make sure every bit of your discard plan relies on creatures, of course, it's a fantastic deck for cabal therapy. Also look into stuff like Kaya's Ghostform. They've printed quite a few 1 mana black cards that can save creatures in recent times. "Fake Your Own Death" for one of the instant speed ones.
>>98879198Mini Tooth. Good for persist combos.
>>98879118i love how the UWfaggot immediately starts preaching the virtues of nativism (which he doesn't actually seriously believe in btw) the moment it relates to his favorite children's card game
>>98879195>>98879166>IF I QUOTE PEOPLE SAYING THINGS THEY NEVER SAID MISREPRESENTING THEIR ARGUMENT AND SAYING DUMB SHIT WHICH IS OBJECTIVELY PROVABLY UNTRUE I WIN THE ARGUMENTHave a good sleep polfag, try to keep that bloodpressure of yours down.
>>98879205We get it you’re trans, I don’t want to hear about your gaping rancid crotch wound anymore it’s fucking disgusting.
>>98879206Honestly does anyone actually give a fuck about UW? Who thought that is even worth defending?
>>98879206Me. And me. Edge of Eternities eradicated any argument that space isn't Magic related many sets ago.
>>98879222I actively hate UW. It needs to be rebooted.
>>98879206Boomer autists for whom Star Trek was the biggest thing in their lives before Magic, probably.Can't wait to hear how it's toooootally another "top 10 best selling set of all time" and it's not just speculative scalper/retailer sales inflating the numbers while actual product rots on the shelves because players aren't buying it.
>>98879225no one's in the 'comfy' (actually dead as fuck) -ub thread again huh?seethe more
>>98879215>>98879218>>98879222>>98879224You seem pretty angry right now, samefag. Maybe take a break and come back later?
We've gone from ritualposts to ritual arguments. I'm starting to think this general might suck balls.
If the card has ugly art, I don't play it. I don't care how good the card is. I'll take an eraser to the card If I need to.
>>98879238huh? i'm very happy with what i gotspare me from your projection
>>98879238A Troon believing only one person disagrees with them is a common occurrence.>>98879240It’s that the -UBfags won’t use their containment thread so they keep brigading the general because they enjoy impotently seething.
>>98879144Anime is pretty much the postchild for what failed gatekeeping looks like. The hobby is infested with casuals who only watch the popular shonen series then act like their opinion on other anime matters. Anime exists now as a cheap marketing vehicle to get puppeteered by non-Japanese companies to market. Chinese and Korean made webtoons, non-Japanese games, vtubers, gatcha, AI, and even stuff like Magic's anime styles are kicking up in feet in the house anime built and masquerading as the real thing. Popular anime conventions have moved away from anime as the main focus and are mostly about the aforementioned things now. Magic's gatekeeping has failed don't get me wrong, but no subculture failed to defend itself from casual faggots than animefags in the 2010s and during covid.
>>98879142
>Star Trek never had anything to do with or influence in Magic-ACK!
>tqI like my decks to do different things. And as someone with 2 'within' decks and 2 'beyond' decks>UW>UBFor pete's sake I just like playing commanders who I think are cool!If you care about what cardboard other people use you might need to move on with your lives.
how did your last game go? I won with this nigga tonight so I feel pretty good.
>>98879099if Homelands and Mirroding/Kamigawa era didnt kill magic, then nothing will kill it.
>>98879206Me, so far this is a more interesting set than basically everything Magic put out this year.>Hurr durr le generic tribal set with elementals that have the funny keyword>Le EPIC ninja pizza set>Le Harry Potter with serial numbers filed off to own the chuds>Le EPIC Marvel set>Le EPIC Marvel set with serial numbers filed off and the worst mechanics every conceived by mankindTrek is singlehandedly salvaging this whole dogshit year and carrying it on its back.
>>98879223Edge of eternity was shat out just for you mouth breathers to point at and go SEE! SEE! SPACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN APART OF MAGIC YOU CHUD! it's incredibly transparent to anyone with a brain stem. Same with UB cards using the normal borders so people can't just instantly dismiss at a glance and same with the next mahvel set being "meshed into magics lore" you don't make these moves because UB is broadly and unanimously accepted
>>98879252>the topic is whether mtg gatekept the trannies>no it didn't>but actually anime did, thanks UB!>...well, anime didn't gatekeep HARD ENOUGH FOR MY TASTES so take that!enjoy your le epic modern day AAA roru rumao
>>98879241You're right on all of them except for the blackula
>>98879281>it's incredibly transparent to anyone with a brain stemclearly you don't have one, because you're the only one here who is bitter and can't let go of his ex girlfriend (which happens to be a kid's card game)
It was nice of them to print benevolent blessing so I can protect my wife light-paws from swords to plowshares without removing her other auras. Can't add any more auras to her afterwards though unfortunately but it's better than her being gone.I'm glad I got a Galadriel's Dismissal when it was cheap, that card is absurdly busted on both modes.
Magic systematically failed at any sort of gatekeeping because the playerbase couldn't even gatekeep their wallets from the sets that led up to the dumpster fire they allegedly hate.A sane person would see a company introduce mythic rarity, then introduce a format-warping universal staple in the very next set, then say "I will not continue buying this product until they abolish mythic rarity." Instead they scrambled to buy the obligatory 4-of mythic staple, even taking out actual fucking leases to afford their decks, for 2 years.
>>98879058Surely that's a reasonable payoff for 9 mana.
>>98879308Truth Bomb. Mythics were the real beginning of the end, especially with Lotus Cobra.
>>98879312No that would be them introducing the reserved list, printing Urza's Saga, then conveniently ending the reserved list right after the strongest block in history.
>>98879304But my ex is still here? Nothing is stopping me from playing with the cards I already own and nothing is convincing me to buy UB
>>98879311No! Only UB cards are allowed to have ridiculous numbers for high mana costs!!!!
>>98879290Not the same guy you were talking to just pointing out anime got co-opted by casuals like you who love chinese gatcha trash. You aren't welcome to have an opinion.
personally, I like UB
>>98879252Tranime doesn't gatekeep trannies. It creates trannies. It glorifies being an anime girl and makes autists obsess over it. Shit like Lucky Star made them want to troon out to become an anime school girl. It's sick shite that will rot your brain and turn you into coomer tranny filth.
>>98879238Imagine being this delusional and retarded to cope with the fact you're the worst poster in a thread where everyone hates you. Reminder that you're an actual imbecile polfag.
>>98879319One could argue that this whole game is just 25 years of compounding terrible decisions.
>>98879311The main problem is it forces you to look up how many creature types exist at any given time.Realistically any card that's like 6+ mana could read "You win the game," and not change 60-card formats at all (hell, they probably wouldn't even change cEDH). However it also wouldn't be particularly interesting.
>>98879329
UB is one of my favorite decks in legacy but in commander I feel it is quite underpowered generally speaking, I'd prefer any other color to pair with blue than black. The only nuts busted UB list i've seen was a friend's yuriko list. I suppose B has lots of cheap creature removal which pairs well with blue's counters so you can let creatures resolve and only fight over noncreature things, but still.
>>98879208There are a couple guys that do a pretty good Tidehollow Sculler impression at the very least.
can't stand these new UB cards with bullshit art that doesn't belong in MTG
>>98879304>Children's card gameWeird how youre so savy with the sales numbers on which sets sell but don't understand this game is almost exclusively played by people 30+ years old. And appeal to triviality yet you still really really really really need to get your way doesn't work in the big two six you need to come up with new plays
>>98879242>>98879250>almost exactly 1min apartIt’s so shameless it’s insulting
>>98879339Anon I know you're trying to be clever but any UB deck at minimum has access to Thoracle combo
Here come UB fag's melty. Once again.
So proUBfag is just going to piss all over the thread and then treat it as a win when other people leave to get away from him?
>>98879348The real value of sculler is the fact that his peak at the hand ability and return the card ability are separate, which is unlike any of the creatures you've posted where it's all in the same line. This means you can have Sculler enter and have his first ability go on the stack, then sacrifice him so his second ability goes on the stack, then when the stack resolves you will have exiled a card from an opponent's hand permanently. They hardly ever template cards like this anymore to prevent tricks like this, I don't think black has any reasonably costed creature with 1 power that does it like this. And looking at sculler again he's 2 power anyway so lol, but still.
>>98879328Nah
>>98879371And yet you have your own safe space thread? Then again no one bothers going there though lol
>>98879378Pretty cool, I think some of the old O-Ring and Fiend Hunter type cards work like this too if I remember correctly.
>>98879371>>98879370
>>98879328>gacha trash>when mtg was the OG gachaThe fucking newfags itt who think they have an opinion worth anything kek
>>98879352Personally I hate the fucking Fallout cards for introducing Power Armor into MtG. That shit has no place here.
>>98879378needs to be legendary
Am i a massive faggot for dropping a pod because one dude plays b5 and the rest of us are using precons? Ganging up on one dude so he doesn't consult + thoracle just so i can play magic doesn't feel very fun I'm trans if this matters
>>98879332Is that why japan has the least number of trannies in the G7?
>>98879415it's always right to concede
You know I sometimes wonder where the doublethink comes from when it comes to Izzet VS literally any other deck that makes 20+ mana in one turn then wastes a ton of time spinning its wheels.
>>98879323Nobody here is telling you to buy UB, have fun in your bubbleBut only one here (You) is really mad that UB exists and is the face of the game lol
>>98879371>antiubfag is sperging out and shitting up another thread>You, a retard: "Man those guys who don't care about UB sure are a problem right fellow kids?"
>>98879353>the 30+ year old paying audience will switch to the adventures of tam and friends (aka tranny jace, foids, and furries) soon enough, two more weeks!
>>98879412Marvel ruined Magic! Marvel aesthetics don't fit into Magic at all!
>>98879403Oh duh, mesmeric fiend does it perfectly. And yeah, there are a few cards in that o-ring-like category that have split templating, and the funny things you could do with them are why they're pretty much all put into one ability now too.
is it worth building a Talrand deck if I don't want to spend too much money? I haven't played magic in years and I have some old cards from innistrad to khans
>>98879437EDH is a casual game. You can easily run Talrand and a bunch of mono blue spell slinging cards in a bracket 2 game.
>>98879437if you're just going to fill it with mostly cheap cantrips and some decent but not the best counter spells ever printed, it won't run you all that much at all. Most cantrips are dirt cheap, and the incredibly good ones like Flow State and Stock up are both only like a dollar.They also just printed a new reducer and she's a dollar.
>>98879437This card impressed me in my last deck. It would go well with Talrand.
>>98879431Honestly the fact they use real people we all know as 'art' really takes me out of the game like what's next; David Bowie??
>>98879437Just buy a precon and stomp the avg b2 deck
>>98879464checked the 30$ precons list but honestly I find them boring
>>98879426Yeah it's so much the face of the game they have to try and meld magic and marvel together so they can go "marvel IS magic!" You're a joke and a bad one at that
QUICK! Post your mono-black commander.>pic related>draw, play, hand punishing deck>little bit of theft and asymmetric board wipes>fun bracket 2
>>98879430As opposed to niggergorn?
Should the sentry's color identity be white-black imo
>>98879273>thinking people here actually play
>>98879496I have two actually
>>98879500The tolkien estate is woke as fuck and it's a shame, but i'll always have the books and the movie trilogyBut FF is the current gold standard because of the simple fact that squenix was wise enough to insist on bare midriffs so yes the UW defeat is utter and undeniable
>>98879496Still my main along with the first Gonti
How many catgirls are too many catgirls?
>>98879496Tinybones.
>>98879493Mtg lore is a joke just like Fortnite lore is hence the switch to UB, live with that :)>the bubble will pop two more weeks!!Haha sure buddy two more weeks indeed
>>98879012>our differences make us stronger>depiction: diabetics who need constant support, are triggered by one another, and incapable of breedingIronically the borg are more diverse. After all their ships come in more shapes than fat.I'd ask why they didn't depict more than 3 (star trek) races but why dance around the obvious answer.>>98879099In some ways you have to realise it isn't now over, it has been for more years than is comfortable to remember.For example, how long did #1488 last? Did they ever get around to banning the card that kills all White creatures? Harhar.
Seeing a lot of cards from these remastered sets where they give them the old borders makes me wish they never changed them. This isn't even a nostalgia thing as i started well after that but it's a whole different vibe.
>>98879099It is perfectly inline with star trek.
>>98879516is it the lack of deathtouch or 1 extra MV
>>98879509I honestly hoped it would make anons stop arguing for a bit
>>98879273I played precon-Captain America and ran people over with heroes.
>>98879511whiplash is neat but weird, marvel is basically the only time in the game black had equipment focus
>>98879543I'm thinking about getting my niece that deck, she loves the jank pile of Villain's I built for her using a character from her favorite anime as a proxy
>>98879236I wasn't expecting much out of the hobbit. It was surprisingly okay. Crazy that it's in the top 5 of all time though. I guess people really just do love non-Magic franchises.
>>98879557I upgraded the deck a bunch but only with other marvel cards. It's just a very simple deck to play if you don't want to think much.You just play creatures on curve, they synergize, and you swing.
>>98879564I think she'll like it, I thought of buying it myself but settled on just making a deck with Whiplash
>>98879496I've also been mulling around a Endrek Sahr deck as well
>>98879512Square is woke as fuck too you're parading around a nerfed as fuck tifa as if it's some victory
>>98879530I take it you haven't watched anything older than Discovery?
>>98879582based
>>98879525>Mtg lore is as bad as fortnight so it should be made more like fortnightLol
>polfag poster stops posting>the antiub, trolling, racism, low quality and argumentative spam posting also immediately stopsMan... I'm starting to notice something...
>>98879595>mtg lore is badCorrect>it should remain as badAnd where in this fucking thread did i say that?I'd love it if wotc actually made it good, but they simply cant and you're just coping, you're really having a rough time tonight kek
>>98879589Wake me up when UW women finally show bare midriifs ok? Haha
>>98879591Are you pretending this wasn't the case in TNG? lmao
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98879606Yeah cuz he got banned on both desktop and phone lmao
>>98879616What wasn't the case?Can you explain what is in line with Star Trek?
>>98879611Huh?
>>98879608My brother in yakub you've been on a MONTHS long malding spree I don't know if I'm the one having a rough time here
>>98879634>looks like a detective>quacks like a detective>not a construct detective>android scientist insteadwe need to destroy most creature types
>>98879639you have a -ub thread and you're still mad that UB is the face of the game haha
>>98879637Huh? Haha!
>>98879496I love her>ramp hard to cast her on turn 4-5>with a sac outlet online your creatures are pretty much immune to anything that isn't a bojuka bog/RIP/leyline >4 triggers of ETB/dies every cycleI've taken out all Fleshbag/Plaguecrafter types in the deck because it felt too mean looping that shit
>>98879655>YOURES SO MAD! YOU! NOT ME! LOOK IM LAUGHING EVEN!what did I tell you about learning new plays?
>>98879637>>98879659Fuckin OOF
>>98879659Is that supposed to delete mine or something? This isn't league of legends kiddo I don't have to play on the latest version
>>98879496
>>98879655It's just fun to make you mald out you can't try and pretend that you've been dedicating significant amounts of your time being wotc's gayest retard
>>98879645>we need to destroy most creature typesI agree.
>>98879676Being pro UW is actually drinking the tranny koolaid
>>98879704Being pro UB is actually drinking the fortnight koolaid
>>98879672hell yeah
>>98879665>Is that supposed to delete mine or something?Yes, as wotc intendedI bet you're still saying that current Disney is just as great as the 90s
>see zoomies! These 20+ year old cards that come from a design aesthetic wotc hasn't adhered to for more than a decade now prove the game is le heckin based! Alesha is just as cute as Azula or Yuffie!
>>98879723Choose one>fortnite>tranniesTHIS is the dilemma you have in your head that'll btfo the chuds? Hahaha
>>98879731What a terrible design decision to obscure the text
>>98876926That actually seems like a fun card, mechanically.
>>98879731Jumpstart was a fucking mistakeI hate this animeshit designs in mtg
>>98879741it's not fun, it's just a solitaire deck reliant on the commander
>>98879662Reminder that you cannot help but come back to this pro UB every day and you stuck forever malding and angry
>>98879741I kneel Gobanon
>>98879744I'm gonna try it anyway.
>>98879743What don't you hate about magic you crybaby unc goober? Literally 99.99% of the player base likes anime and will pay out the nose for anime alts.
>>98879749an important thing to keep in mind: it is not suspend, you do not tick down during your upkeep, and it has no synergy with clockspinning or time travel
>>98879769>Literally 99.99% of the player base likes animeReminds me of everyone gay and woke I know
>>98879775I figured. Don't have a simic deck, and he seems fairly unique.
>>98879425I've never known anyone that doesn't start getting impatient when someone starts going solitaire mode for 15+ minutes. I've played my fair share of eggs piles and Nadu (when it was legal rip bird) to know people start going batshit when you're slowly and maybe non-deterministically killing them. I'm not any better just because I've done it ether annoying time wasting play should always get the hate. Special shout to Saga decks which are retard magnets that take 10+ minutes just to resolve all of their initial triggers and don't even do anything.
>>98879769>99.99% of the player basetn: .1% of the playerbase, but the most willing to whaleSame strategy as every other gacha
>>98879809I don't care how long your turn takes if you're actually taking game actions.The people who don't pay attention to the previous turns, then spend several minutes thinking out their land drop before asking what literally every card on the board is before another 5 minutes to play a single card that annoy the shit out of me.
>>98879741
I'm gonna kill myself if they don't batch sea monsters into a keyworded type like they did with outlaws in the upcoming underwater set
>>98879872Stock up on bleach.I would like more super tribes and super tribe support, but I don't think it will happen.
>>98879437can Talrand even be competitive?
>>98879879https://moxfield.com/decks/uPuw1XP6H0OHq-jUeaoK4A
>>98879872>>98879877It will. Sea monsters are a favorite of some designfag at WotC. They already have a ridiculous amount of great support for being an only mildly popular tribe. I mean getting a whole ass setting for themselves is nuts when angels still haven't gotten shit despite being one of the top ten most popular tribes.
>>98879911>check listsomehow a 5cmc blue sorcery draw 3 cards is 6$why the fuck is Lorien Revealed 6$? is it because of the islandcycling?
>>98879822Hey look, a sensible and reasonable approach to turn time. Sure wish at least 75% of people who play the game had this mindset instead of like 25% or less
>>98879925It would do you well to look at other formats once in a while. It's a part of your manabase in some decks in other formats, it lets you have fewer lands and have a draw 3 later to close out games. It's an absurdly good card. Most of the 1 mana land cyclers from that set are, and I think multiple were banned in pauper.
>>98879921Angels have an odd problem of being in very few UB settings so they immediately go extinct during UB sets.
>>98879012Wonder if it'll have a blue counterpart called Infinite Combinations. Otherwise it's just kinda weird to do only the ID of IDIC
>>98879776>>98879816>fucking animefags, us chubbychasers are a profitable demographic!
>>98879496Pulled him from a pack.
>>98879416>TranimeOnly otakus watch anime in Japan. They also aren't relentlessly told being straight is disgusting while giving scholarships, favoritism at school and uni, and in many cases literally free money to any member of the alphabet mafia.
>>98879953You were wronged but dont blame it on japan's #1 export made by obv non tranny chink hating nips is the point
>>98879950sell it
>>98879982Nah, it's already my second favorite deck. Managed to build it so that, even though it's technically bracket 1-2, it can keep up with bracket 3 decks, it's really nice! Also, I like FF7, so pulling Sephiroth was great. Shame about Ex-Death though, will forever be mad at his card.Decklist: https://manabox.app/decks/5MrQdOt7QjarzqMgzqWl_A
>>98880000>wow this blood artist emblem in the command zone is surprisingly good
>>98879950I'll never get over the game where I put a wedding ring on a Sephiroth player and his mind just imploded.
>>98879982>>98880004Yeah, it is nice, I'm glad you realize this. I'm sure there are power/annoying strategies you like that WotC has printed cards specifically for, I would like to see and read about them! I mean this, in earnest, show me the Commanders and cards YOU like that other people don't!
>>98880005Well. While that would also send me through a loop, I'm also surprised he didn't just send every trigger and attacking creature your way. Also, dammit anon, now you're forcing me to cut a pet card for Gate to Phyrexia.
>>98879939Angels are basically extinct in UW too. Although they're an extremely popular tribe Angels still haven't cracked 300 creatures and the overwhelming majority of those are terrible. We're lucky if we get even 1 decent new angel every 2-3 sets. Yet Giada is currently #11 on edhrec despite being monowhite and doing almost nothing to correct any of the problems angel tribal has, showing that players are desperate for any even remotely viable angel commanders/creatures.Wizards themselves hate angels with a passion though, since their favorite story in any setting with a lot of them in it is to write guro where the angels get horrifically murdered by the boring jobber villains to make them seem threatening to Jace's (sorry - TAM's) quirk chungus marvel brigade. An angel focused plane set would sell like crazy but Wizards hates attractive women and goodness in general so they'd rather make pg13 whacky races and cowboys without guns sets. The only way we'd ever see an angel focused set with attractive characters and a pleasing story in the future is if they adapt some angel focused UB franchise, though currently I can't think of any that have enough nerd appeal for Hasbro to crossover with them.
>>98880024He didn't have much of a board to send at me, he just had warren soul trader and gravecrawler and just started to do his loop before he realized the interaction.
>>98880035Who were the last good angels we got?
>>98880037Then at that point, the only option was to threaten to kingmake by feeding you cards and life until someone else removed a Ring, your's preferably. I'm playing mono-black, what fucking morals or fairplay should I have?
>>98880038She's wildly overcosted but RF Avacyn has good art and a half decent mechanic so I have a soft spot for her.In terms of being fairly costed and having decent abilities, for IMO good (or at least playable) new angels we've gotten in the last three years:Lyra, Archangel of Dawn RFAExemplar of Light FDNExalted Sunborn EOEMerchant of Truth MKCResplendent Angel LCISigarda, Font of Blessings MATDrana and Linvala MOMShalai and Hallar MOMHalf that list disappears if you exclude 2023 and you can't even play all those angels in the same deck since they're different colors. Well I guess you could use that Seluma angel from the upcoming mystery booster set, even though she's awful.
>>98878536>>98876742Really? How lame. Well it's worth a shot trying the "you can't play boardwipes now as they would be mld which is forbidden" prank on lgs randos. Will report back
>>98880035Their entire problem is their commander selection is just crap top to bottom. They're a bunch of fine in the 99 mono color cards with some crappy multicolor build arounds. Compare them to dragons who also fly and have bare minimum low cost creatures. Dragons have awesome multicolor bomb commanders to ramp into while angels get stuck stuff like this. Angel players are clinging to Giada cause the other options are crap like Sigarda and Kaalia or some other discordant thing instead of table shaking value beasts like Miirym and Ureni.
sometimes I just look at glup shittos that nobody plays. like I think this card is pretty okay for instance, if your deck is running a lot of low drops that like entering or attacking, such as Faithful Companion and Elvish Visionary, or Ragavan and Silent Hallcreeper. I like having Serra Angels lying around on early turns. I wonder what kind of deck runs the highest concentration of cheap creatures like that.
>>98879260Yes, I move on with my life and don't reply to questions or deck advice requests from slopchuggers. Funny how your UBspammer friend didn't reply either uh?
>>98880069Wish she was more than a French Vanilla creature, would have thrown her in my Sephara deck.
>>98880070>don't reply to questions or deck advice requests from slopchuggers.But you have though, you fucking liar, if only to mock them and say you won't help them. If you hate them so much, why don't you post in the -UB thread? Wouldn't that both be your speed AND make you happier?
>>98880069Spiderman was an absolutely dreadful set but there are a few web-slinging cards that play pretty ok.
>>98879371Anon, it's pretty easy to discern his posting patter at this point. Just ignore him, keep shitting on UB, and leave him replying to himself like he's doing right now, and you'll see how everything improves
>>98880058Other people can still boardwipe even if you made every land a creature, it's not supposed to be a hard 'hostage' situation, such a situation is just not considered to be mld
i fucking hate how every interesting card design now is associated with some retarded ub faggot instead of being some actually cool creature
>>98880099Universes Within cards tend to be gayer than your average UB card
>>98880099Remember what they took from you and never stop hating them for it.
>>98880082xe cute
>>98880060>>98880035>2028>Nahiri has her Woman Moment and sets up a titanbreach crashing Zendikar into Innistrad>Sorin fighting a difficult battle on multiple fronts>tries the hail mary play and draws energy from the two planes to get back to his oldwalker level of power>redoes the creation ritual>picrela guy can dream
>>98880105for 1 100th of a second I was like "how the fuck is there a legends card I don't recognize" lol
>>98880094Yes I understand it now, I'm gambling on lgs randos not knowing this because it's not in the brackets infographic
>>98880105that's not how wotc does knights anymore buddy boyit's like winning a small prize in the lottery if wotc even allows a normal girl in their UW art anymore
>>98880112I would recognize that common anywhere, I played it a million times in GW and BW decks in EoE draft. pretty good little dude-man
>>98880079Yes, I don't reply to the question itself, but I'll let them know I could but I didn't, why u mad haha? The reason and the answer to the rest of your questions is because I gatekeep. I do post in the -ub thread too tho.
>>98880112he's not a knight the card says legend newfriend :^)
>>98880115>u mad haha?Not in the slightest, just don't like liars>I'm gatekeepingBoth impossible and nonsensical. Gatekeeping in MtG is literally impossible unless you stop people from buying cards somehow. And it's nonsensical to try here because fucking really? Do you actually think ANY of the people here will change there minds or well and truly card? Not even going into the fact that you're trying to "gatekeep" a few dozen at best. If you truly believed what you're doing is just AND doable, you would do it on a forum that has more traffic, like Reddit. Instead, you do it here because you just want to shitpost and you know the jannies don't give a fuck.
>>98880108I just want an abzan angel Commander that isn't 6+ mana which actually synergizes with some of the mechanics the design team keep throwing on angela because they can't make up their minds about what they want angels to be. Make it about lifelink or +1/+1 counters or angel tokens or graveyard or whatever but they need to just fucking make it already.
>>98880142Every little thing matters anon. I'm doing my part!
13 Gayest tribes that should never have a new card made for them ever again:1) Dragon2) Dragon3) Dragon4) Eldrazi5) Phyrexian6) Elves7) Goblin8) Merfolk9) Artifact Creature10) Zombies11) Elemental12) Wizard 13) Sliver
minthara is just an elenda deck with overly complicated ways of buffing power
>>98879606It's /pol/ack not "polfag", tourist
12 Days until Star Trek
>>98880158What are the 13 least gay tribes?
>>98880180Can't wait to see it become one of the top ten best selling of all time.
>>98880158Vampire Tribal reporting in
>>98880158>Dinosaurs are in the clearTimmybros its our time
dear wotc:my favorite thing is when you print staples at common in booster packs.reprints, original designs, doesn't matter. I love it. snakeskin veil in TDM? wow nice. accursed marauder in mh3? whoa cool.faithless looting and abrade in INR. hell yeah.please do more of that, thank you. might I suggest Elves of Deep Shadow for your next reprint. all the best.
>>98880182AngelsAngelsAngelsClericsSpiritsFaeriesVampiresDinosaursKnights Sphinxes MonksPirates
There is nothing wrong with ramping and casting Eldrazi and swinging with creatures with annihilator every turn.
>>98880203>guess who was annihilated by emrakul aeons torn one too many times
>>98880158>>98880199>cue to my elf and my sphinx decksA man must be as based as he is cringe, I'm pure tao bitch
We're going to get another Final Fantasy set sooner rather than later :)
>>98880182Non-tokenNon-humanNon-blackNon-spiritNon-artifactHumanCreatures with no abilitiesModifiedMulticoloredHistoricHigh CMC mattersWallsCard types in your graveyard
>>98880238Holy shit is that a cute white girl?Wotc could never
>>98880246she's evil (kinda) so it's ok
>>98880238I wouldn't be surprised. If I were Hasbro I would find a way to make the anime art used way more in main sets since animeshit sells a lot right now even if the card is utter dogshitI mean, explain why the fuck the anime catgirl Balan cost way more than the original print of Balan?
>>98880256cat girl :(cat girl, japan :D
>>98880238final fantasy is such a weirdly managed brand, they've done everything they can for the past 20 years to do anything but make a proper final fantasy game
>>98879153>I believe we are in a time where there's a much higher density of removal in decks,I get away with too much because my pod runs 0 removal. They refuse to learn
I am kinda new in the game but i have a question. If I cast a sorcery and my opponent cast a spell that copies it, how the hell can my opponent cast a sorcery copy during my turn? Isn't sorcery spells only castable during your main phase?
>>98880274There are lots of ways to cheat sorceries out in other phases. Some spells require you to check the timing before you can cast your stolen exiles sorcery, but spells that put a copy of a sorcery onto the stack resolve immediately and the copy ceases to exist as soon as it leaves the stack.
>>98880274Three thingsSpells and abilities that let you cast things "in that moment" (aka during resolution) bypass timing restrictions. Example: Etali primal stormIf there is a window, normal timing rules apply. Example: Urza lord high artificerMost spells that copy don't actually cast, they just put a copy onto the stack. Example: Twin cast. Your friend is just putting a copy of something on the stack during his copying spell's resolution, not casting a sorcery during your turnNote: "without paying its mana cost" or actually casting the copy or not has nothing to do with when you can do it. The golden rule is if it's during resolution (bypass timing) or at a later time (timing rules apply)With this you can figure out the rest but feel free to ask
>>98880271my deck is all removal
>>98880301I seeOpponent casted pic related, bouncing my sorcery and playing a copy. I have to guess I can't cast the bounced spell until all effects from pic related has taken effect, right?
>>98880318You can't cast your sorcery again because it's a sorcery, not because of timing. You can't cast anything while doing the separate effects of a single spell, but you could cast the sorcery again if you had something that let you play sorceries "as though they had flash/anytime you could play/cast an instant". Like this:>you cast your sorcery>opp casts reversal>opp and you pass priority, aka "it's okay for reversal to resolve">two things happen, opp puts a copy of the sorcery on the stack with new targets, then bounces your sorcery to hand. In between all those, no one can cast anything>reversal fully resolved, now there's a copy of the sorcery on the stack>because something resolved, there's another round of priority and you can cast things>you can't cast the sorcery because the stack isn't empty, but you could cast an instant, activate a non "as a sorcery" ability, or recast the sorcery with the aforementioned method, before the sorcery copy resolves and does its effectIt can sound complicated at first but it's really not after you work it through in your head a handful of times
>>98880238I'd be down, still need my wife to get her own card and not just a fuzzy background element in Authority of the Consulsgod i love evil women
why Narset looks old in the new tarkir set?how many years has passed since march of the machines?is it due to artistic choice?
>>98880400So many years ago today. Ah, my foster daughter...
>>98880414Is Narset actually frens with The Wandering Emperor
>>98880400No fucking idea honestly.Meanwhile Elspeth still looks young don't even bring the archangel transformation
>>98879809>played a 3 player game last year>one guy had phage the untouchable mono black control>he was playing scroll rack>spent like 3 minutes every turn deciding what to put back on topNow I get why they banned sensei's divining top. EDH is so fucking boring when people just net-deck and don't even know how their cards work. I want to play a card game not sit a bunch of fat nerds making lame jokes. I'm ashamed I gave this game another chance but I'm glad I quit as quick as I did the 2nd time.
>>98879950Currently running a set with stuff i had in my collection. However i still feel I ran out of cards at some point and cant recover quick enough.Here is my current decklisthttps://moxfield.com/decks/7IoY7kdAfUC3p6TpZc_VKQI am planning on adding Phyrexian arena and Grim Haruspex once i get them but any recommendation is welcome.
>>98880455>no war roomget one asap. It cost only 2$You can also get underworld connections for another cheap draw engine
>>98879116outperformed in every way by the new Avacyn
So, uh, how does this work for a newfag? Do I just walk into my LGS on a night when they're playing commander and sit at a random table?
>>98880400Sure had to do some kind of time shenanigans in order to change tarkir, didn't she?Are you telling me she just did it in the present through sheer autistic "i don't want to do different things" power?Are you telling me walkers live the same amount of time as normal humans and war of the spark was three months ago in the timeline?
>>98880569You approach the fattest mofo you see, point at him and scream "planeswalker, I challenge you to a duel! Bean me up, leotardo!" while pulling your spongebob deckBoom instant new playgroup for you
>>98880569Literally yes, say “hey I see you guys have a free spot can I please join you?” If they say sure then sit down introduce yourself and play.
>>98880440>Now I get why they banned sensei's divining top.But it's not banned???
I'm surprised there isn't a "First Interracial Kiss" card
>>98880578Holy kino and yet wotc cant even pitch that to netflix
>>98880625Alternate art promo of infinite diversity. But we both know they just don't actually know that it was star trek that had the first aired interracial kiss. I'm sure they think it was glee or something.
>>98880578I don't have the engineering talents necessary to create a Duel Disk big enough to use for EDH.
>>98880569Some places will do pairings for you. Check if game stores nearby have a scheduled commander night or something, they are likely to pair up pods for you if you are too introverted to just walk up to somebody and ask.
>>98880714The only place I've been to that did pairings also had a bunch of people who did a "they're not done with pairings yet, we can get a round in before they're done if we're quick, c'mon" so it'll vary significantly.
>>98880569One piece of advice I can give is show up on-time or a bit early to when the posted "commander event" starts. That way you have a higher probability of getting a pod if you arrive before all the pods are formed.Sometimes you go for a random pick-up game, and every has pods-of-4 already made, there's no one for you to play with, and you just go home. That's just how it is sometimes.
>>98880671>But we both know they just don't actually know that it was star trek that had the first aired interracial kiss.Because it didn't. Fuck, in I love lucy she was kissing ricky. There were also earlier white man - sheboon kisses as well. This one was historic, because it shows that trekkies are pozzed fags.
>>98879012>tqmost of my shit ends up being Voltron. I have 8 decks in my bag of various power levels and the main ones I enjoy playing are all Voltron essentially
What's your favorite pet card? I loved this thing in standard and modern ages ago. Birthing Pod is great too.
>>98880902Love this little gem
Thantiss, Lathliss, Lanthril, Kathril oh my fucking god i hate fantasy names
>>98880957Lauralanthalasa
>>98880909truly an underrated card diamond in the rough
>>98880902probably this motherfuckerHe's been giving me victories in my pod and lgs.Nobody wants to kill him when faced down because of the ward 2 and when i face him up during combat, i already have protection for him.
>>98880957You forgot kediss
>>98879119>black guy on a construction site is "leftoid"hey I'm who coined this board's preferred term for the Magic card publisher– GōtC (with special attention to the linguistic mark over the "O") so I make no excuse or concession for the woke mobbut if you think seeing a black guy at a construction site is woke youre fried (and need to go get a job, on a construction site). also reading comprehension is hard. the supervisor (the black guy) is calling for engineers. a black supervisor or foreman is certainly unusual but not unheard of even before the woke mob days especially in city areasall the black angels and elves would be an 1000x better thing to call out (why the fuck is the Wood Elves reprint in the Hobbit some black African???)hope this helps
>>98881005maybe even Sedris
>>98881007It's very simple (NTA btw) we're all just fucking sick and tired of seeing niggers every-fucking-where on every-fucking-thing.Once upon a time the Blade movies were enjoyable, now they are sickening.Yes the fatigue has gotten to be so bad that it is retroactively applicable.
How do you like my quickly made custom card? I just took a screenshot from an episode
Whoever advised Chthonian Nightmare on my MonoB Avacyn you are the fuckin MVP I was able to get so much value doing Sac Bloodpet for B, return it for 1 energy and another creature, sac it again for B, and replay Chthonian with BB for +2 Energy gain.
>>98881040Success breeds jealousy.
>Play enchantment of winning the game through gigarape>It survives 3 rotations>I win the game through gigarape>"How am I supposed to stop your deck? It just wins out of nowhere! I guess the card I need to remove on sight is Final-Word Phantom."How do people genuinely not even acknowledge cards unless they have a P/T box?
>>98881007It's like the koreans and their intense rage at any 2d or 3d female doing a particular hand gesture.The thought process is something like:>it may be innocent>it may be me seeing things>but I refuse to give the benefit of a doubt >cuz I've been burned before
>>98881099if you really are black and not just a Wiggarthan, what do (((you))) think about black wood elves and black angels en masse
>>98881099>>98881117my bad, pic rel
>>98880400Apparently she was always supposed to be like 40. The art director just suddenly decided to have her aged like milk instead of wine.
>>98881130the first Narset i saw was a friend's anime Parter of Veils and damn, thats hella fine shyt for pushing 40
>>98881145yikes buddy tone it down a notch take it back to r/pol
>>98881145>Isn't it awesome how the only way you can get representation is by having jews spend billions to prop you up? It's not at all condescending and patronizing the way they do it, all but outright stating they know you could never get here on your own.>You're just a tool, and you'll be cast aside the moment you are no longer useful, your only value is the fact that your fuck ugly faces make people angry with how fuck ugly you are.Anon, I'm asking this for real; would you like a friend? I mean this sincerely. Also, I do have decks but I don't have them on me, I'm at work. But when I get home, I may post a couple, how's that sound!>>98881144Then you should be angry at WotC, not raging at niggers, right?>>98881117>>98881123Like I said before, I don't care. You guys talk and seethe about it far more than it crosses my mind. In fact, I only really think about it when this thread is going on about it and I don't leave. And as for my more personal thoughts on it, unless I think the card is mechanically interesting to me/worth playing, I don't care what are it has on it. If it does have art I don't like, I just proxy. I have been upset at a black person on a card until this guy but that only because he ruins my Lesbo deck, so I'll proxy him to be a female black Dr.
I bought an edge of eternity play booster box and pulled both the quantum riddler sphinx + ouroboroid + adagia and three shock lands among some other thingsI'm really happy, that went well
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>>98881177You failed to account for one major factor: Magic players are addicts.They will bitch and moan about literally anything and everything, but nothing will stop them from buying boxes and going to every prerelease. He's still going to go to Trek prerelease. He's still going to buy a collector box chasing Anthropological Mission. He's just going to insist nobody was there (despite going himself) and that the set totally bombed and that Mark is lying when he says it made top 10 sets of all-time like pretty much every other UB set.
>>98881167Not black, but may I recommend Dr. Lenara Kahn as a canon Star Trek lesbian? She's a one episode character unlikely to get her own card, so no risk of confusion.
>>98881199I mean, a set like spiderman can be a "high selling set" and still be rotting on shelves and backrooms.Stores buy, which makes distributers buy, and that's all the sales WotC cares about. They made their money dispute the stores not being able to move it.
>>98879119>>98881007I think he was referring to the name of the card "Damage control" more than the nog for his point
>>98881199I haven't bought a card in almost a decade, I just still like to play the old game with my extant collection.Dead game is best game, and a 10 year old wizard tribal is still competitive, there is no need for any level of deckbuilding to have nusloppa
>>98881211Are we supposed to believe you care about the poor lgs? you just stay in your basement and never stepped into one let alone play there on a weekly basis
no guys my helm and dauthi/void/rest in peace aren't a 2 card combo because i can only hit one player at a time
>he's now pretending to be blackThis is wildly amusing
>>98881231Only retards care about the actual number of cards used in a combo
>>98881211All this does is shift the narrative to the even more comically implausible notion that local game stores, which are more directly attached to players, are completely incapable of gauging player demand for a product. If you applied this same method of catastrophizing to Reality Fracture then it's a set nobody wanted and is also "rotting on the shelves" (unless it's not on the shelves, in which case it's because stores knew not to order it). It's very strange that people try to maintain this agenda even in the face of WotC routinely making press releases about how immensely successful the UB sets are doing, and how they're trying to ramp up production of them to match demand.If WotC was lying they would be saying one thing and doing another.However what they're doing is saying UB is selling insanely well, stores and players can't get enough of it, and ramping up production. This is backed by how TCGplayer also routinely reports UB sets and cards as their highest-volume items for MtG, including "failed" sets like TMT. The reality is that MtG as an IP was always comically weak (more people can name Black Lotus than Urza or Jace) which is why UB has so much draw.
>>98881177Absolutely, which is why you just had to tell us about it, not at all because you'd have no audience otherwise.
Do we really have to have this conversation almost every damn thread?
>>98881174based gambler anon. congratulations on your successful gambling and I hope you at least played draft or sealed with friends or something lol
Why is it so fucking ugly and busted?
>98879741lol now it makes sense, pandering from one monster race to another
>>98881238>are completely incapable of gauging player demand for a productnot completely incapable, no. but not perfect at it either, and vulnerable to pressure from wotc. small business owners make mistakes all the time, so it's not totally implausible. you do imagine that if they lost a bunch of money on every Marvel set they'd eventually stop caring about maintaining their WPN status but it's also the sort of thing that could take years rather than months to percolate. (t. doesn't actually have a dog in this fight, just popping in)
>>98881277Have you considered that the UW problem had percolated already that's why UB was made in the first place?
>>98881268Ikoria was a busted set as a wholeAnd yes they intentionally designed kinnan as a character to look like a mongoloid
>>98881268gotta sell packs but firing a dogshit art director or telling artists to go do it again but better would make spreadsheet people uncomfortable.
Is there a general guideline on when to best buy singles from a new set?Like if I want some cards from Reality Fracture, would now be the right time to get them because it's been enough weeks for many people to rip boxes? I'm looking at some older sets and good cards seem to then once again go up in price over time. I'd like to spend as little as I can obviously, so... Example in pic
>>98881238I mean, I'm not saying some UB sets are selling hand over fist. All of that is irrelevant, the sales that Wotc reports are just the sales distributors buy that are then bought by a LGS.They have made their money at that point. What the LGS sells to consumers and what other third party sellers, like TCGplayer they don't make a cent off of.
>>98881292A few weeks to a month after the set comes out and hype prices flatten out.
>looking through talismans for numot>marvel shit is the default printingdamn i fucking hate UB
>>98881323>The most recent printing is the first shownWho would have thought.
>>98881292I usually wait until the set goes out of print or rotates, usually easier to wait for rotation
My take on UB, which no one else has ever posted before, is that I'm ok with it if the UB IP fits into the Magic world and it suits the aesthetics and vibe
Surely you're going to use this in a Hearthhull deck right anon?
>>98881328>usually easier to wait for rotationAnon, sets rotate out of standard after 3 years now.
>>98881329Personally, I like UB
>>98881277Pressure from WotC manifests in a minimum order size to maintain WPN status. The last two times we know this happened were with OTJ and DFT where WotC sent out reminders to stores that they wouldn't get MH3 or TDM/FIN if they didn't order the minimum count. There's no record of similar notices being sent out for SPM or TMT and I'm 100% certain they would be all over the place if they existed because that would be a smoking gun for the "nobody buys bad UB" narrative. It would be very strange for WotC to jack up the minimum order count so high that it forces a set to be an all-time bestseller.
>>98881329my take on UB is that I am ok with it as long as its not animeshit like final fantasy and avatar.I am fine with marvel sets
>>98881332nothing is easier than inactionjust finished up getting singles from DMU, BRO, ONE and MOM.Still gotta look at the aftermath cards but I lost interest in singles for the time being.
>>98881345Possibly the worst take
>>98881330I can't remember a single episode where Riker cooks
>>98881328So you're saying phyrexia all will be one should have fallen after going out of rotation, right? But it looks like buying it after just a few weeks would have been even better
>>98881351anime style does not fit with Magic at allSay whatever you want about the marvel sets and the upcoming star trek set, but at least the artstyle on those sets looks western.If i want animeshit I'd be playing yugioh or pokemon
>>98881362Yeah this card looks great and not like someone's joke custom shit >>98881040
>>98881362If you hate anime you wouldnt play tcgs, just look at the vast majority of them
>>98881361in general yesin specifics im not sure, theres a chance that card went up for reasons other than scarcityI do think buying after the print run is over is probably best here in the edh dominated era, but tracking print runs is more time consuming than just waiting for rotation. I have a big enough collection, I don't really NEED any more cards.
>>98881351he did it on purposewelcome to /edhg/
>>98881353It's the opening of one episode. He's making scrambled eggs and everyone talks it up as a big impressive skill that he's cooking without using the replicator. Then it turns out tasting terrible.
>>98881329The thing is, they don't care about that, and those are actually in the minority. LOTR, avatar, what else? Dnd is barely UB, maybe you could argue 40k and FF, but certainly not new york 3 times over and star trek. People don't trust UB because wotc has shown they can't handle it responsibly, and now you're stuck with bean me up leotardo forever in your game
>>98881361thanks got i got my mondrak by trading my atraxa grand unifier back in the prerelease
>>98881383It was also supposed to be an omelette
>>98881383oh so they immortalized this humiliation on his showcase cardunderstood
>>98881370it's not that i hate anime stylewhat i mean is the artstyle doesn't belong in mtg. Fucking imagine if pokemon had a more western artstyle and pokemons looked like the ones in that detective pikachu movie. It simply doesn't fit
>>98881386Well obviously, who would trust them at this point? Just saying I'm ok with the likes of LOTR or FF but seeing Capeshit just annoys me
>>98881361A timmy staple like mondrak won't ever fall in price until they reprint it.
More time in the oven. Hope it helped.>Woodfall poisons stagnant waters>Snowfall cools the area and prevents growth>Great Bay muddies and dilutes the waters>Stone Tower makes you flip your libraryThe deck will be bant so I had to work around Woodfall not having a black mana symbol but still interacting with swamps. Same for Snowhead.
>>98881404Looks just fine
>>98881408That's what I'm getting at, I'm fine with those two but slippery slope is real and this one slammed no brakes full speed into capeshit, so I might as well have none. As much as I like Gandalf, I'd have no Gandalf and no capeshit rather than have both
>>98881428looks weird>>98881408capeshit is fineif wotc bring some animeshit like genshin impact, I am selling my cards and never look back.
OH BOY! FREE MANA IN THE COMMAND ZONE AND FREE GRAVEFILL! THANKS WOTC FOR BEING TO CREATIVELY BRANKRUPT!
>>98881441>if wotc bring some animeshit like genshin impactthats where you draw the line? not after the clusterfuck of dr. who or star trek but genshin impact?
>>98881408Hypocrisy defeats the argument, it's all or noneI choose none.
>>98881450He's either trolling or not worth talking to if he thinks Dr. Who and Miles Morales are cool
>>98881450>thats where you draw the line? not after the clusterfuck of dr. who or star trek but genshin impact?that's correctI enjoyed dr who and bought one of the commander decks.>>98881457I will admit the spiderman set was kinda shit
>>98881454There is nothing hypocritical about my stance being "I'm ok with the ones that fit the vibe". That's my opinion. I'd also accept a Souls UB cause I can easily imagine hundreds of cards fitting in just fine. That said, if I got to choose I'd also rather have none at all. Because WOTC is evidently not sticking to just UBs that fit the vibe.
>>98881466FF doesn't, its scifi so the "vibe" you're going for is "my subjective likes" and that applies to everyone, so you're a hypocrite.All, or none.
>>98881475nta but I'd say FF is sufficiently fantasy to fit. Way more that fucking dr who. Regardless I'm also on the all or none take and I also choose one
The kind of tech FF has with gunblades and flying gunships and such fits into Magic fine
Hello anons,Sorry for not reporting last week's tournament. I've been a bit busy lately.To make it short, i placed 4th place from 12 players. I just got bullied by some 5 color superfriend deck with Tam, a boros voltron deck with Feather and rakdos Kardur deck (my fault I guess for filling my field too quickly).
>>98881447anyone who plays ramp/draw in the zone is a numbskull
>>98881427These sorts of effects are simply too strong to have on a land drop. Normally you'd be paying 3+ mana for the sorts of enchantments that fuck with lands this much. If you want my suggestions, I would instead do something with Time counters. Maybe you're adding them like a Storage land, maybe you're removing them to 'complete' the temple. That could be a way to have Woodfall be a swamp. Enters tapped with some time counters, you can tap it for colorless while taking damage and removing counters, and then once it has no time counters it can become a Forest Swamp.
>>98881466Bloodborne should be part of the bonus slots for whatever the next Innistrad set is like how Jurassic Park got in to Ixalan
>>98881427You somehow made them even stronger than the previous version because now the opportunity cost for their benefit is even lower. Almost no lands provide passive value in any form, let alone something as strong as making opposing lands enter tapped or issuing poison counters every turn. Look at Glacial Chasm which doesn't tap for mana at all, has cumulative upkeep, sacs another land on entry, and blanks your own combat, and it still ended up a GC.
>>98881427Woodfall Temple is busted
>>98881450To be fair, spiderman and who sucked shit but at least they weren't Chinese
Local group wants to try doing a full anything goes uncards day sometime just for shits Sounds fun, but how will it really go? Anyone tried?`
>>98881612R&D's Secret Lair and you can pretty much shop for problem cards.
>>98881447huh? this doesnt have eminence. it only does its abilities on the battlefield.and if you want to go through the effort of tapping, sacc'ing command beacon to get her from the command zone to your hand just to be 1 card in the yard, then I think your stratagem may need some work. pic rel if you want to add some counters on a critterhope this helps
is it worth building a madness deck with pic related?
>>98881507If it were possible to be granular and still have ground to stand on I'd probably agree, at least for FF's 1-6 and 9, much more argument to be had for the remainder.But it's not, I will not die on the hill of "things I like are okay as exceptions" not ever.If I want FF I'll fire up the emulator and play, if I want Tolkien I'll open the books and read.
>>98881475final fantasy is one of THE most on flavor UB sets they've ever done. its all wizards, warriors etc. tons of stuff interacting with the party mechanic used in DnD. Vivi is the top card and it's literally a black mage. It's all inspired by the same high fantasy stuff that DnD and original MTG was which is everything from LOTR to King Arthur to Nordic shit to Samurai stuff. and final fantasy the core of it is games 1-10. hope that helps>>98881507dr who is wack flavor wise but getting stuff like white phyrexian arena is nuts. how this card is 75¢ still is crazy (pic rel)
>>98881664it only draws 3 cards in total and then it goes in the graveyard
>>98881660I'm under the impression that anje is "very good, in fact"Better question, is it "ahn-ya" (doesn't make sense with innistrad's linguistics sources), "aanj" or "aanj-ee" (short for Angelica or similar names)
>>98881660looks like a shitty commanderi doubt madness will get more support, considering that Mayhem is a better madness since you are not forced to cast the card the moment its discarded
>>98881663long term players like myself have wanted a final fantasy crossover for a long time. I remember getting serious into MTG with roommates back in like 2010 and playing FFV on my DS and 8 on my PSX and wishing it would happenpeople on MTG forums, on MTGO, my one roommate and his brother who had played since the 90s all said "it will never happen, EVER"well look who has goo on their face now?
>>98881668and there 900 white cards that let you return permanents with mana value 3 or less from the yard to the field. new ones in reality frac
>>98881475FF has as much sci fi as dnd or mtg do, it's robots and flying castles still function on magic and bullshit, same as the handful of cars
So with all the Borg cards giving buffs to artifact creatures as a whole, which artifact creatures do you think will spike in price.
>>98881683>players like myself have wantedAnd therein lies the problem.You are not every player, your fraction of agreeing players (whatever the size) does not fucking matter as it is not 100% of players.Quantifying your subjective desires as okay means EVERY players subjective desires are okay.All.Or.None.Do you know what that means? That means you advocate for MLP or you advocate for UB being inexcusable.
>>98881688fucking thispeople forget Urza's power armor looked like this
>>98881660It will certainly make madness more playable. The big issue is the simple fact that you are forced to use it or lose it upon discard, which is very awkward to time correctly.
>>98881697quote from you:>You are not every player,real fact:>FF being top selling magic set of all timeyour statement has been DEBUNKED
>>98881683I was playing back in 2010 too and I never once wanted crossovers. That sort of thing is best reserved for the fandom to play with, not the company to make official. I remember when I was an even wee-er lad, I used to take up the whole dining table to play with lego star wars, a bucket of plastic army men, and I think Hot Wheels cars got involved. Fun in my head, but if I were to ever see any of that be legitimately advertised together, I'd die of embarrassment toward my hobby. Some ideas should just stay in the head.
>>98881516neat blogwhere do I unsubscribe?
>>98881663Ye ye I agree with you. The legend of Aang is probably my fav show ever but it was still not worth it to have it in mtg because that means having doctor spork or whatever the hell he's called as well
>>98881719That doesn't mean fuck all moron, many of us never bought it, many who did buy it aren't players.Fuck, even a sixth grader in debate club knows these basic fallacies.
>>98881728>even a sixth grader in debate club knows these basic fallacies.like this one?>That means you advocate for MLP or you advocate for UB being inexcusable.
>>98881683long term players like myself have wanted a Spongebob crossover for a long time. I remember getting serious into MTG with roommates back in like 2010 and watching Spongebob on my TV and Spongebob: the movie on my other TV and wishing it would happenpeople on MTG forums, on MTGO, my one roommate and his brother who had played since the 90s all said "it will never happen, EVER"well look who has gary on their face now?
>>98881692*replicates blightsteel colossus a bunch of times*
>>98881736That's the opposite of a fallacy, that's consistency.Outside IP is either on the table, or off the table.Once any outside IP is on the table the only distinguishing factor between one or the other is subjective taste and that is arbitrary, you can't even argue it on the grounds of scifi or not thanks to nu-kamigawa, you can't argue it on subject matter because unicorns and pegasi are in the game, you can't argue it on art style because cartoonish is pre-existing in the franchise, you can't argue it on target demographic because the game began as a children's card game.Figure it out kiddo.
>>98881758Okay but is that realistically any scarier than copying it once? Either way it's boardwipe or lose.
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>>98881765Maybe, what about Roaming Throne?
So how long do you think it will take for this whole set to be banned?
>>98881768Even better, let's drop the pretense mask of the culture war and have sets that are truly honest about what this is all about.let's get Trump on a card, Biden, Harris, Bibi, Vivek, Musk, Gates, Microsoft, Goldman-Sachsetc... and Hitler too because all this UB shit and DEI art is really just a proxy for politics and corporate loyalties.Magic has long since ceased to be a vessel to teach mathematics in a fun way, it is virtue signaling in physical collectible form.
So what form of bitching will we get next thread?
>>98881761>>98881761no that is not the opposite of a fallacy. it is a fallacy and you are a moron. supporting popular high fantasy IPs that have either directly influenced MTG (like LOTR, The Hobbit and DnD) or share similar influences (FF, 40k) does NOT mean those people broadly support my little pony or SpongeBob or Garfield cards or whatever the fuck youre claiming >img limit reached
>>98881790more UB faggots vs puristsmore anons hating anime art in mtgborosfag posting how he lost with his shitty deck againdid i forget something else?
WHOA! CHECK OUT THIS GENERIC BUILD!YOUR FRIENDS will HATE YOU! XDDD
>>98881787>>98881787this is why I put crusade in the Calling All Angels precon
>>98881790at least my shitty pasta which I'm ready to unapologetically carry over
>>98881797Slop spam
>>98881786Why do you think it will be banned?
>>98881797Yes.Goblin anon posts 2-4 more excellent proxies.
>>98881795When outside IPs get put on the table, anything goes at that point. Whether or not "fits" is irrelevant.
>>98881817t. goblin anon
>>98881787What would a Hitler card do?
>>98881817That's more than the 0 anyone wants to see
>>98881660i feel madness is one of those mechanic that wotc dislike and won't get future support
The worst has to be people playing shit like Black Panther with wakanda forever cards and all Either that or shit like Gwen Stacy or J Jameson from Spidershit
>>98881848I think I'm gonna make a Black Panther deck now
>>98881824They would print it in black, they would make it a 0/1 for 1 and they would try to make it's ability unplayable trash.Then some chuds would find a card interaction to break it into OP status and the leftwing tcg youtubers would seethe about it.On the table it wouldn't actually do shit because ever LGS would autoban it just on idpol reasons.
>try to do more than a couple edits a minute >archidekt and moxfield shit themselveswhen will you learn that tappedout is superior?
>>98881682>>98881700Madness is good and the ability to play things ignoring usual timing restrictions is a good thing.That said I agree with >>98881830, they're not going to support madness any more, it's going to be an umbrella "cast from graveyard" thing that previous madness cards benefit from, but Anje won't get more madness cards.
>>98881815Every card is absurdly overpowered or a color pie break or breaks the mechanics of the game in some way.
We should get a new eldrazi set with more annihilator cards
>>988818246BB: destroy 6 gorillion target creatures. If you scried or surveiled this turn, destroy up to 271000 target creatures instead
>>98881883Finally a card that answers Scute Swarm
>>98881787based accelerationist
>>98881822no that is part of the fallacyoutside IPs that share a common influence or even influenced directly by that IP fit. that doesn't mean every other thing fits. retard
>>98881925again, nu-kamigawa introduced scifi, given the target demographic, that scifi and fantasy are both in and every range of art style is in that means NOTHING is off-limits.You're a fucking amateur moron.
>>98881860I've always found surprising how people refuse to acknowledge emotionally charged evil figures or tyrants as smart or capable. How the heck do they think he did all that without being smart? Happens a lot with Franco in my country
>>98881883Spell mastery -- Hitler has flying and first strike and when he dies, return him to the battlefield tapped. He's a land named nazi moonbase (argentina) and has "t: add 1"
>>98881427Maybe you want something that initially hurts or hinders you for playing them, and then either paying a cost or doing something nontrivial in the game while they're on the battlefield 'completes' the dungeon and removes the downside and/or gives an award (maybe gains a life or something to be like a heart container). Though at that point they might end up being more like legendary enchantments rather than lands.
>>98881879They would ban the problem ones (not really) if that's the case. And anyways they do not break anything in a fundamentally retarded way like stickersThe only grounds for banning is being ugly as sin, which wotc is clearly fine with
>>98881941He was neither evil nor a tyrant, he got VOTED into power because he stood against the blatantly obvious evils of his day and in record speed eliminated those evils upon being elected which is how he remained in power.Putting an end to child sex-trafficking, enstating truly green policies (first government to ever do so) and making sure every citizen had employment are all very good things.
>I cast my dragon Avagnoth, Heir of the Flame>Hold it, I respond with Spongebob's Spatula to swat your dragon away and counter it
Why is this thread always so full of retards from /pol/
>>98881970Yes, yes, we know it's silly Emrakul dies to the 15th squirrel.
>>98881974The -UB thread isn't doing to hot so they come here. Either that or they were recently banned from /v/
>>98881974>introduce idpol to the game>wonder why idpol is now prominent in the playerbaseGee anon, it's a fucking mystery.
>>98881983Ah so they're retarded
>>98881974Because everything is polical now
>>98881998>>98881998>>98881998
>>98881330I'm thinking about it for Zell Dincht to get more landfall and because he can rescue one of those lands back to hand at the end of turn. Combine with Crucible of Worlds for two free lands a turn. Even without that, it's still one free.
>>98881979>It's not full of constant autistic melt downs and shit flinging so it's not doing too hotHAAH WAAW
>>98881957I don't want to get into that, I meant that in their version he's an evil monster who threatened the world and everyone's lives, but he was not smart. That doesn't sound consistent to me, you gotta be smart to do what they say he did
>>98881974UB tourists
>>98881042one of my all time favorite cards you're cute
