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>>11190571>JULYBatman Beyond (DC)
>>11190571I guess this one would be called Suicide Squad ISEKAI Ver. so should be Harley Quinn - Suicide Squad ISEKAI Ver. (DC)to keep the format.
It's chicken time
you guys think the evas are better than the model kits? I own neither so dunno which to get
Which mecha do you expect to join Amazing Yamaguchi...besides bunch of Evas? Which mecha do you want to see?I think Patlabor is a strong candidate AY will explore. If Yamaguchi sculpts them it will be the first? I think all if not most were Tani Akira before. Getting some more besides the usual Ingrams, Helldivers, and Griffon would be nice. Even reactive armor ver. They are easier to do with simple color patterns, saving painting costs. A good going back to your roots choice for Yamaguchi would be GaoGaiGar. Shishiou Guy would also work as an AY release.
The other highlights of WF Shanghai.
>>11190680so which of these are actually sculpted by yamaguchi? Just luke?
>>11190688Pretty sure both Ryu and Luke are Yamaguchi. I think Genos is Yamaguchi as well. Tartaglia is Yamaguchi, it was listed as such.
>>11190602>PatlaborMy cum would fly everywhere
>>11190680I don't get why Armored Titan has a wash to show all the lining details but Female Titan doesn't. Nor the shading like Attack Titan.
>>11190680better quality pics:>https://news.amiami.jp/event/2024/10/445807.html
>>11191033I don't know him but he looks cool.
>>11191033>no luke
Why the fuck are Annie's titties not connected to her pecs? It looks fucking awful and I don't want to get her because of it.
>>11191033>those kneesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>11190680Really hoping that Genos goes crazy. He looks good so far.
>>11191061if you didnt notice, titan anatomy never made any sense
>>11191097If you're expecting "crazy" like AY iron then no he wont. Cloth shit already bump up the price of their figures and kaiyodo wants their figure to be within a certain price range. His main accessories will be his cloth jacket and then some blast part
>>11191061Cry about it. This is the only female titan figure you'll get :)
>>11191185why are you like this
>>11191033Proportions look better than the RD.
>>11190571>rebuild of Eva is finally over>new Eva toys are still rebuild style for no damn reason
I have a lot of things to preorder and I could ask this in the figma thread too but should I prioritize the revo stuff or the figma stuff first, figma is easier and cheaper to get once they release, right?
>>11191255prioritize revos over general release figmasexclusive sale figmas are a problem thoughprioritize whichever character you like more if you happen to get caught between the latter and a revo
>>11191193Didn't asked
>>11191292anon didn't ask you either
>>11191185Except there has already been third party Attack and Armored Titans, so stick that in your smiley emoticon and smoke it.>>11191236The design of the Evas and Angels was probably the least offensive thing about Rebuild. I'll even say I preferred some of the Angel designs over the original. But after Shinji rescues Rei in 2.0, everything was a half baked clusterfuck, except Farmer Rei. Hell, I would have taken 5 hours of village slice of life over whatever the fuck happened in 3.0 and Thrice Upon a Time.
>>11191405>chink attack and armored titanStill no female titan figures other than ones you nitpicking about. Cry more :) >>11191299
>>11191405>bring up 2 entirely different titansAre you retarded?>being autistic about Kaiyodo’s EVA choicesNvm you are
>>11191417didn't ask
>>11191420>because China limit themselves when they steal an IPNow who's being retarded.
>>11191033Anyone know the scale on these? Smaller than the chogokins I imagine?>>11191080I know. He just can't help himself. The simplicity of the 70s design was perfect.
>>11191640Didnt asked
>>11191704Is this going up for sale?
>>11191718Protoype right now, but yeah.
>>11191722Yamaguchi better see that shit and lock the fuck in
>>11191722So according to the website, the $180 version is painted? So does that mean all the skin is painted the right tone or will it be red?
>>11190602I'm expecting patlabor, grendizer and getter.Personally I'd most like to see some new transformers and bravern
>>11191761>$180LOL
>>11191780It's functionally a garage kit no? Unless it's actually being manufactured, but I doubt some random individual could get enough purchases for that to be worth it. But given the price maybe he's only getting a handful made. That said, that's way too much when you don't even know the potential quality.
>>11191792Yamaguchi better reveal a Daredevil right FUCKING now or else I'll be tempted to buy this fucker (to be honest his shoulder joints seem better than AYs but I have no idea about the range), I can't paint for shit thoughever.
>>11191097>>11191181IIRC this version of the body doesn't have that many crazy shit. It is the one with the arm blades so I think that's in for sure, but could be exclusive parts. The double arm canon has to be a completely separate attachment like a crossed arms on a figuarts so I think the AY will skip that. These type of IPs don't go "creative" like Marvel and DC they stay source accurate.
>>11191865The dual arm cannon was one of the most iconic moments of S1/the early manga, and the ridiculous dynamicism of it just screams Yamaguchi. I would be shocked if they didn't do it.
>>11191867>>11191865Annoyingly, I could see it as an exclusive part.
>>11191778It would be nice if we get all classic getters 1, 2 and 3 this time. Grendizer seems likely because of the new anime and to complete the Mazinger trio, but I also think they might prioritize Mazinkaiser. In that case a Shin Getter 1 might come through. SRW games make me think those two are a pair. But personally all I want is the fembots from Mazinger series. I doubt we see anything "new" for mecha AY.
>>11191867But that body only did it once, shoulder jets and arm blades felt like the more dominant new features the AY would focus on. And I think it's too much extra cost to do the double arm cannon piece. It has to be a few pieces at least, then multiple spots to paint. Seems too much for a bonus piece and then a price gouger for a full production. Unless Genos is a high price AY I don't see it, and I think Genos will be kept low price as possible because the target audience is more generalized.
>>11191778No clicking joints no buy
>>11191868It's this particular one right? This is so costly to do even if it's a solid piece I doubt it can be done in a single cast then so may pats that needs painting that's not a single masking ans spray.
>>11191867Actually looking at the posing >>11190680 being the same as this panel >>11191882 this blast effect is all we're getting to recreate this moment probably.
>>11191882Yeah, if this one is getting made it's definitely a separate piece.
>>11191882Some chinaman is gonna make it and sell it for 80 bucks :)
>>11191704Stupid af not to mold the entire thing with red plastic so we wouldn't have to paint the joints.
>>11190680Atem's legs look really weird. Also sucks he isn't wearing the jacket.
What, eva is sakamoto sculpt. Seems like sacrilege to me.
It seems Maohji is sticking around. Don't know if this is new or a bought old sculpt like the MHA girls.
>>11191761I think he means fully painted in correct colors.Is this by the same people who are making the Alpha Chun Li? They initially announced it as an expensive semi-hand-made figure by the name "Kaiyodo Style Chun-Li for $120 and then switched it to a much less expensive mass produced figure.
>>11192087I wonder if they'd be willing to do SFV Juri at some point, love that look.
>>11191927>sakamotoWhat's his other work?
>>11192238Lots. Most of nonYamaguchi AYs.
10/17 preorder, July release, 8500 yen.
Decent contents.
Why is it weird to me that Manzinger Z is on the list with modern Animes like MHA despite that Manzinger Z came out in the 70s and 70s anime is overlooked.I'm not typical a mecha person but the Manzinger Z revoltech might interest me.
>>11192848The weird boobs aren't as jarring in most of the pics. She overall looks solid, and her hardened options are pretty good. Given the low-ish price I think she seems worth it. I'd doubt that Armor will be the same price, but we'll see.
>>11192848thank god that exclusive is an easy skip
>>11192848I'm waiting for Reiner
>>11192859Why do muscle people turn silver?
>>11191405I liked the gay stuff in 3.0 but it’s a bad movie and overall rebuild is just Eva failing for nearly two decades at what Gurren Lagann did in a year
>>11193036read the manga/watch the showIn short, they can harden their body to stone/diamond.
>>11193133can they turn their dick to diamond?
>>11192087>changed to factory mass production>upgraded various joints, added parts, etc.I'm confused. Did they changed the final product? What is what now?
>>11193159No but The Female Titan turns my* dick diamonds.
>>11192872First it's not really weird because Mazinger Z is still very popular. Not necessary because of that original anime. It's like how Batman is still popular even though it is a 30's comics.Second, no new mecha anime is as popular as MHA or other hit shonen manga series. Not since Evangelion (95) and Code Geass (06) perhaps. >70s anime is overlooked.Are they? A lot of well known titles are from the 70's but I guess not many have actually watched them.
What a shame this isn't Yamaguchi snd doesn't have the same hip joint hiding crotch/inner-thighs sculpting like Spider-Gwen, Wonder-Woman, etc. Not sure if the actual final product has the white plastic joint but that seems like an odd decision.
>>11193284Is this not how all hips work now in AY? Also the color is similar enough to the pale skin, so it's probably close enough, I doubt it's a stark bone white.
>>11193290The ball sockets are located like diagonally instead of direct sides of the thighs. And the thigh swivel being angled means you can get a good leg spread pose without seeing much of the gaps of the hip ball joints. What this >>11193284 is doing is the same thing every other action figure is doing, killing one of the few unique features of Yamaguchi's action figures. I just hate to see as soon as the sculptor changes they throw out those unique features of the line.
I didn't watch SNK but she's hot and the other unreleased titan look cool so maybe I'll get them once I'm free from all the other stuff I want
>>11193290If that doesn't make sense, the useal AY has a Y shaped triple ball joint piece in the hip. This Titan has a T shaped piece.
>>11193404Yes, and so is AoT. But a cool design and good effects parts are a cool design and good effects parts.
>>11193372>>11193376Ah ok, I gotcha. And she even has that extra cap piece. Functionally it's still the same no? The main difference being that it isn't sculpted as high as usual. I don't might the change in style too much, and even Yamaguchi changes up his designs here and there, sometimes improvements to some, other times regressions to others (like 'knee spikes' vs the ball at the knee).
>>11193412yeah but western capeslop is boring
>>11193410This is just being worse though if it's functionally the same but looks worse. I don't think anyone prefers seeing joints over not seeing them. The only improvement I can see with a traditional hip design is that she can probably sit in a chair more naturally, but what is that good for for a 15m Titan?
Now that Bandai is going to be losing the Dragon Ball license, what are the chances of getting some of our beloved heroes and bad guys as revoltech figures?
>>11193434Ya, it probably will function very similarly. I kind of expect maybe a bit more outwardly, maybe a bit more inwardly, but otherwise you're not wrong.
>>11193450I think inward range is more simpler with this. Outward might be same or slightly worse.
>>11190680I figured for sure we’d see painted Toga…
>>11193484the mha line is dead
It's probably a good thing Assemble Borg ended, because it looks like Takara is reviving the Microman series in a new way. AB was inspired by Takara's Microman and similar toylines btw. And Niikawa is tough competition even for Nightow.
>>11193490
>>11193499No, just ignore it.
>>11193499Yeah, they binned it.
>>11193499yeah ignore any comments regarding future discontinuation of any toy lines. It's only ever true if the person is a time traveler who came after the fall of human civilization.
>>11193499They got sick of people here complaining all the time over not getting new figures with there being 5 whole figures in different stages of development and yet to release so they stopped producing them.
>>11193493articulation and posability of the middle one isn't that great though
>>11193493What is that. Why is kojimbo involved
>>11193565Mha is fucking mid as fuck I seriously can't imagine anybody giving an actual shit about the figures
>>11193569I assume the figures are small. Probably smaller than Microman since they're calling it Nano. Torso looks like there's zero articulation. The last line that had the Microman name were slightly bigger and had the articulation scheme that SH figuarts eventually got so bit of a downgrade. But like older Microman this new line seems more support mecha focused. >>11193573Takara's new collector oriented series, Altered Nano. They want big name designers involved to trick people into caring about it.
>>11193247I wish we got an AY Golden Bat
>>11193661What about Gekko Kamen? What we all really want is Kekko Kamen though.
>>11193676Not me, I want Golden Bat.
>more support mecha focusedfrom the teaser video. It's getting a blade wolf wannabee that we never saw a Revoltech of. One of the action figure variant was Raiden like I think.
>>11193446Hooe we atleast get a Goku figure.
what about diana and minerva
What about Daima and miniku
what baout doopliss and aphrodite
What about Sneed and Chuck
>>11191080>>11191678Just curious, how would you guys achieve a 180 degree bend on a figure with fat tubes for limbs?
>>11194250It doesn't even look bad. There isn't something to criticize like the KNEE SPIKES or gap caused by a ball. Not sure what exactly was expected there.
>>11191872>But that body only did it onceThis is irrelevant IMO. Toys come with far more obscure and useless accessories all the time, like a cup the character held in one scene or some background gag item. This scene was reposted and drooled over so many times, like I said, it was one of the iconic moments that propelled OPM into the public eye early on.Accessories should not be judged on how many times the move was used in canon, but how cool/playable they would be in toy form.
>>11191918>Stupid af not to mold the entire thing with red plastic so we wouldn't have to paint the joints.This is not injection molded or 3D printed. It is hand-molded using PU resin. I am not knowledgeable enough about PU, but I can certainly imagine that it might be difficult to mix in the precise amount of dyes to make the run a uniform color, and get the color well blended and not streaky. They probably want to just use the default color of the resin, hand-molding is a huge pain in the ass as-is. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt here, it does not seem nearly as easy as "feed red plastic into machine instead of tan.">>11193160I believe it means Chun-Li was also going to be a pricey resin-cast figure, but was switched over to fully injection molded, so the price of the figure was able to come down. This is a balancing act between the high cost of cutting a steel injection mold, vs how many you can sell to recoup that cost. They probably got enough preorders/buzz to justify it.
>>11193493Nah. Don't get me wrong, I love Microman, but I think Nightow took Assemble Borg above and beyond. He didn't just crib the aesthetic, he used it as a guideline and took it further, especially with the gothic horror angle of the Jarknoids. The crazy building ability of the line is also unique, and formed a huge part of its popularity.
>>11193493>>11194274I'm also really not excited by the look of these new Takara ones, even with a designer like Shinkawa at the helm. They just look so generic sci-fi, and the articulation model looks so stiff. I can't bring myself to get excited about it. It reminds me of ThreeA's Microman homages in that sense, it just doesn't do anything for me. It feels like someone vaguely trying to wear a Microman costume, but half-assing it.
>>11191704I just kind of feel sad for Yamaguchi when I see stuff like this. The guy loves what he does, he has so many unlicensed sculpts he did just for fun that will likely never be released. I imagine he wants to do a lot more than they allow him to, in terms of what would sell, what licenses they can get, etc. So it's like...you have the skills and the passion, but you're limited by real-world logistics and a corporate structure, and you have to just sit on your hands and watch other people eat your lunch, using your (quite unique) style and articulation model that you pioneered. It must feel terrible.I won't buy these for that reason. I know my one sale won't affect anything, but owning it would make me feel bad as an artist.
>>11194274It took me seconds to realize this is an Assemble Borg built holy shit. Now I'm convinced these are the Japanese Bionicle kek.They can also be combined to any Kaiyodo figure that uses the revolver joints.
>>11194291Pretty much. People achieved some really crazy shit with AB. Here's someone's War Rig from Fury Road, just insane.
>>11190680come to think of it ryu has never had any alternate costumes like other street fighter members have. storm is already doing his SF6 outfit too.
>>11194250>>11194256I'm not complaining about the engineering. It'll make posing great. It's the extra embellishments like the panel lines and tyre knees that just always has me asking why? Why can't Yamaguchi do anything accurate, why does he always have to add a personal signature and modernize an otherwise classic designs. Don't get it. Is it narcissism?
>>11194582Nah, I don't fuck with this opinion at all. The industry is full of boring guys who try for screen accuracy, it's what 99% of them do. Why would you ruin a unique voice like Yamaguchi and try to make him just like everyone else? He is arguably one of the most unique mecha sculptors alive right now, and when I buy his shit, it's because I specifically want HIS shit, not because I want my 15th fucking samey Mazinger. This take sucks man.
>>11194582Without Yamaguchi, you would never know what your favorite anime would look like if it was rad as fuck.
>>11194582>those knees>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>tyre knees>I'm not complaining about the engineeringYes you are complaining about it, you keep bitching about the knees. That's why I asked how you would engineer a prettier knee.
>>11194590>>11194591Yeah. This is what I thought it was. I always suspected these were for people who just like good toys and probably collect a lot of OC just because the figures are good. My priorities are different, which is why I don't really like the Yamaguchi's I've bought in the past. They just feel soulless to me.>>11194594just straight line ridges on the knee and no square at the top.
>>11194600Nothing soulless about an artist having a personal style. It’s like saying the Shin Getter in Armageddon is soulless because it doesn’t look exactly the same as Ken Ishikawa’s Shin Getter.
>>11191227The RDs use the movies CAD files...
>>11194665To be fair, anon said "better", not "more faithful". I also enjoy those proportions, and I look forward to Yamaguchi doing more mecha stuff, it was always one of his strong points and he's got even better at it.
>>11192087When is this supposed to come out?
>>11194689Sometime between now and year's end.
>>11194677Then it's "proportions I prefer" not "better proportions".
>>11194665Yeah, and they're worse for it. They might be as screen accurate as possible, but I will contend that the 3D models never looked good in the first place. They looked stiff to me, and as good as the RDs are as toys, they look stiff to me too.The easiest way I could describe Yamaguchi's Evas are trying to capture the feel of the cel animation and exaggerated proportions of the TV Evas. Everything was kind of imprecise and rough, but it was cooler that way.
>>11193493This is even further from the Microman aesthetic than Assembleborg was though.
>>11194716Irrelevant, the comment that started all this said "LOOKS better," which is a matter of personal opinion, vs just "better" which implies that is is factually better somehow.
>>11194279You're unsatisfied with the most insignificant aspect of the series you know. The main aspect is all of this >>11193697And we haven't seen what the new Acroyear will be like. SAfe to assume there will be bad guys.
>>11194343>Here's someone'sStuff like these are made by the guy who sculpts Assemble Borgs. No limitations on parts because it's by the manufacturer. The problem with AB is to do this you need to buy so many, sometimes just for a single piece which you might need multiples of. They mismanaged the line and it became nicher and nicher so this side of the AB's possibilities became impractical. They tried with the mini sets but by then it was too late.
>>11194665lol
>>11194850They look so god-damn like the same person. I would say to them, "You want ice cream cone?", both of them say yes. How in the hell?
>>11193446Sounds based.
>>11194861I really don't like those shoulders.
>>11194907It's not offical or anything. Just posted it as an example of a Goku with AY like articulation to get the idea across better. Real thing would look way better.
>>11194725I don't see that honestly. Have them with some silver and they're just as close. Over the years like Magne Powers they had lots of different aesthetics. And there were many Shinkawa designs Revoltechs they feel a bit familiar too.
>>11194924>Real thinglol
>>11194949Just you wait, Buster Brown. We will see WHO has the last laugh.
>>11194957I won't remember about any of this when I'm right so you seethe on your own ok?
>>11193446anything is better than those broken shf scams
>>11194854
>>11195019They look the same!
>>11194726Learn English.
>>11193284It looks like bone, I like it
>>11194823Why would I give a shit about all those vehicles? It's straying even FARTHER away from Microman for me. Yes, there were Microman vehicles, but neither I nor anyone I knew ever owned any, it was all about the figures. So I have zero nostalgia for this, and furthermore, the designs of all those vehicles look painfully generic too. I'm honestly disappointed in Shinkawa, this is mid af for him.
>>11194943It's not even a matter of a homage or how close it looks. The shapes just suck. No matter what colors you apply, they're just not good looking. They remind me of this Beastbox figure, which I also thought was a clunky design.Those heads might have some nominal similarities, but the gulf between them is vast from a design standpoint. These just don't have the "it" factor to me.
>>11194835>They mismanaged the line and it became nicher and nicheThis is an unfair/uninformed assessment. It was only sold in the Kaiyodo museum store initially because it was a new, untested IP with no media tie-in, and it was uncertain if it could support mass retail sales. It was basically a favor Kaiyodo did for Nightow because he invented the Revolver joint. This was mostly fine for Japanese customers, but it was extremely hard to get for international customers. So Kaiyodo heard that, and tried to push into the US market. They put up an English Assemble Borg site, and for a while, were selling Wave 1 ABs and the Barrels Speeder on Amazon for low prices. I believe the figures started at like $25 IIRC. But they didn't sell. Just as Kaiyodo predicted, word of mouth alone was not enough, and it was even worse outside of Japan. They tanked fucking hard, and as a result, from Wave 2 onward, there were no more US releases.If anything, you should blame the US market for not buying them. Kaiyodo tried as hard as they could given the circumstances.
>>11195363>toy line with smaller figurines so you can have all these support machines, vehicles, everyday items(like guns! kek) that transforms>I'm all about the figurinesSounds like you and your friends missed the point of the series. It's not as extreme as Diaclone where the figurines aren't that important, but to me and most of the world Microman seemed like 50:50. Micro Force was when they went 100 to the figurines.>>11195363>>11195379As for Shinkawa designs that's totally personal preference.
>>11195418>you and your friends missed the point of the series>there's only one right way to enjoy this toyline, because I say so
>>11195410>the US marketWho cares. I don't even bother thinking about that when the Japanese market as it has been shown many times is sufficient in supporting toy brands. Niche is welcomed. >word of mouth alone was not enoughThat right there is exactly what I'm talking about, and that's for the Japanese market, the only one that mattered. It was not fine for Japanese customers. If they had appropriate numbers it wouldn't get cancelled with so many unreleased. Kaiyodo as usual sucks at marketing. They like for their work to speak for them selves. And that might work when that work is of massive IP with their own fanbase, or they come inside a chocolate egg. But when doing an original IP with a somewhat known mangaka, no media tie-ins, some hobby magazine articles and displays at events, yeah of course it didn't spread around. You know what made an explosive sale of some AB? A brief appearance on TV when famous mangaka was shown using it as pose reference. That was more marketing than anything they've done for AB. Kaiyodo did just about nothing and they got nothing in return. >>11195410>basically a favor Kaiyodo did for Nightow because he invented the Revolver jointThat's not accurate either. Assemble Borg was the main product for using Revolver Joints. IP based Revoltechs were the byproduct. At lest it was initially. TV Evangelions, the first Revoltechs created, were created from the AB body. Kaiyodo made AB because they thought it would sell, like anything else they do.
>>11195443>Assemble Borg was the main product for using Revolver JointsYes yes, I know. I followed this company's history comprehensively since 2008. I just shorthanded it because I didn't feel like writing even MORE about details that arguably weren't that relevant to the point. That's why I said it was BASICALLY a favor to Nightow, I was trying to condense the description.Also, this was always going to be a niche product. What would you have had them do? What's your big plan for marketing a line with no media tie-in to the masses? And on Kaiyodo's budget too, which is not that large for such a "big name" player. Do you know how much it costs to produce those media tie-ins? For fucks sake, they had less than 40 employees when I started following them in 08. Like I said, I feel they did the best they could.
>>11195438People can enjoy it however they like. But if they want to talk about the identity or legacy of the toys I think the intended play value of the whole thing is more relevant than the partial toys they had. It's just ridiculous to think of Microman without all the accessories that's all.
>>11195497I dunno dude. I'm not the biggest Microman nerd in the world, but I followed it on and off since the 90s, and I kind of only saw people talk about figures for the most part. Even now, I just went to Google Image and searched "Microman toys," and the vast majority are standalone figures. Only a few pics had vehicles, out of the entire first few hundreds of results I scrolled through. I think that probably suggests something about the way most people experience the line.
>>11195475Have Nightow make a small booklet manga they can sell at WF, their stores, Amazon. Doesn't need a13 episode anime or a movie, TV commercial. Small manga publication in hobby magazines first maybe. Make stop motion animation videos and post on social media. Anything is better than nothing. Don't say that's more than they can handle either. There were a few AB booklets released towards the end of their run. Too little too late. By doing everything they could you mean make the figures, because that's all they really did. That's not always enough especially for originals, you want some fuel for the imaginations than "here's the product".
>>11195521Alright man. You have no idea what was going on internally or what they might have been able to afford at any given point in time, nor have you offered any explanation of how this plan would be paid for by such a small operation, but ok. You do you. You're going to just stay mad no matter what I say anyway.
>>11195529Explanation? What I'm suppose to offer their financial reports what are you on about? They did it later so they can do it sooner isn't clear enough?They still had some ChocoEgg money more than likely. The CEO can buy a WWII artillery cannon they can afford some marketing. They just didn't care enough. Action figures have a history of getting the short end of the stick at Kaiyodo during most of its 60 years operation.
>>11194665Is this about the RD from 2009?
>>11195516>I'm not an expert and google image search result shapes my realityThis is honestly the saddest thing I saw on 4chan in a while. My experience is with the Magnepowers era, but I know it continued on the traditions and had a lot of toys besides the main figures. The small figures were the cheapest of course so that can form the bias these people might be experiencing. As for google, well it's the line name but also name of that specific figure toy. I doubt you see many Robotman or Acroyear pictures when searching Microman, does that make sense? Look at old ads and catalogs and you get a better idea what were going around. The figures only have a few types that are reused, both the old and the later series until the figure centered Microforce era, but there are so many variety of toys outside the main figures. It just sounds wrong saying the figure was everything. It was the bowl of rice to all the plates of meat, fish, soup and vegetables sure. But the meal isn't just rice, nor does it feel like the main dish. Anyways I thought that was a common perception of Microman.
>>11195516Also doing that search in Japanese gives a higher inclusion of the vehicles etc interestingly so I don't know what to tell you with this google search prioritization methodology.
>>11195564>>11195576man some people get really wound up about their toys
Why the fuck is Subjectautist here?
>>11195734>talking facts = really wound upFine stay ignorant.
I tried putting revo Todoroki’s head on another body, but the head sits a little low. Would sticky tack help raise his head a little bit? I can try making the neck peg a tiny bit longer but that’s too risky.
Trying to pose my Spidey 2.0 sticking to the side of my PC but I guess the material my PC case is made of doesn't provide a strong enough attraction to the magnet base, it just slowly slides off. It'll kind of hold in place if I balance it just right but I don't want to risk it falling off. Any suggestions for an alternate base with a stronger magnet? Or tips on replacing the magnet on the default base?
>>11196442>stronger magnetNeodymium? Just attach a stronger magnet to the PC and then the base magnet to that magnet, making sure you orient the magnet the correct side.But I'm always nervous having magnets near electronics. I'm sure it's not a problem, but I'm reluctant to even put my phone in a pocket with magnet buttons even though it's for holding phones. >>11195858Yeah never cut apart joints. .
>>11196492I'll order some and give it a try.I have a fairly large, full tower case and the area I have in mind for Spidey is as far away as possible from electronic components. Maybe I'll just use the magnets to create a surface on the cabinet above the pc he can hang down from. Thanks.
When we get All for One will it be his Darth Vader suit form or young version?
>>11196596None because the line will be cancelled
>>11196596Assuming Revoltech continues to make whichever version they feel like not based on the current story like SHF is, I could picture them eventually doing the suited version with the mask, and blank face, and damaged face. If SHF does one it'll probably be the younger-ish one that fights All Might (cause they'll probably do that All Might too).
Does only Bandai have the license for the MHA endgame designs?
>>11197577I don't think so? In Kaiyodo's case, it's just that they haven't gone into anything from specifically that arc yet, I think. Bandai's jumping on MHA right as it enters its final arc, whereas Kaiyodo started when the third suit was Deku's most recent appearance.
Hell, I got an Assemble Borg from Zen Market and the little fucker comes with extra revolver joints, like 10 of them, how crazy. The accessories are also cool, such a variety of weapons and interchangeable parts.
>>11197577It doesn't work like that. Unless they(or a company they own) created the IP or is like the only toy company sponsoring the TV show, anyone can make anything they pay for. But toy companies generally try to avoid stepping on each other's toes to have maximum sale potential. Licensing fee might change a little depending on the designs but I doubt the difference is that huge and one company doing it doesn't exclude another company.
>>11197577>>11197578>>11197604I'm really hoping we get a Vigilante Deku now that SHF is tackling the final arc design.
>>11197613>sponsoringIsn't it just a different head for the SHF Deku? Surely someone will sell an upgrade set. Not sure Bandai will bother unless some retarded event exclusive thing. I have a feeling they do some main students and call it a day. Bandai usually don't go that far on IPs others have access to.
>>11197623didn't mean to greentext
>>11197623Nah, his entire design is more torn and jagged. And it'd also be a good excuse to give him new effects pieces for his other quirks, like Black Whip.And I mean I hope that we get a Vigilante Deku from Kaiyodo now, not Bandai. Because a new AY Deku is possible. But with Bandai doing a final arc ver. Kaiyodo doesn't necessarily need to do that.
>>11197628As someone who's never read nor watched MHA, I'd say this is a rad design. Would be cool to see him as an AY toy.
>>11197604I'm sad Kaiyodo didn't try for Shin Ultraman, Shin Kamen Rider Revoltechs. They are capable of doing them AFAIK, but just didn't. Add Godzilla in there and complete set since a new Eva is on the way.
>>11197628The sculpt on the Banpresto is pretty rad, I suspect a SHF would not look nearly as cool though.
>>11197732Yeah because Bandai never shares personnel across departments for reasons I will never comprehend.
>>11197732Oh no, I meant I want Kaiyodo to tackle Vigilante Deku since Bandai already is working on the final arc look.
>>11197759They seem to be almost antagonistic, like the teams are either unwilling or mandated by Bandai to not share info, even though it could make both sides better. Maybe it's a corporate competition kind of thing, like Team A wants to look better to the CEO so they don't want to share with Team B, who could overtake them.
>>11197776It was competition for sure. It got really bad at one point I believe. Like gunpla and RD trying to one up each other. Then they supposedly stop, made this grand cringy gesture with that Figuarts ninja girl and HG samurai bot kit that can combine, remember that thing? But nothing feels different. Plamo and collectors still feels like they are one-upping each other now with Ultraman.
>>11197783>>11197776Such an annoying attitude. It's definitely hurting the releases, especially in SHF. But like we've discussed on here about Ohtsu and Yamaguchi, it also may just be a matter of desired style, and other 'masters' not wanting to disrespect others at the same level as them.
>>11197790It's not really a style thing, the teams do not even share universally beneficial info like engineering. A few years ago, Bandai put the Shokugan team on minipla, which they had zero experience with, and the early releases were accordingly very rough around the edges. The plamo team could have easily stepped in to give them some pointers, but this did not happen. Instead they just ground it out until they started to improve via sheer time and experience. The same Shokugan team was also put in charge of the Warhammer 40k figures, and got no assistance from the SHF team, so it was again like they were trying to reinvent the wheel. This type of attitude holds everyone back.
>>11197790The attitude towards sculptors at Kaiyodo is very different to that of Bandai. I doubt it is anything like that there. It could be something as simple as there is no system to share credit as in payment across departments. It's all salary and bonuses so how do you break it up if a Banpresto guy sculpted the faces for one Figuarts, for example. So they don't bother to mix because it doesn't really benefit themselves?
>>11197810And Bandai suffers as a whole. I've come to feel disappointed in their products because it seems like they all have one really great asset and a half dozen failings, and they could mostly rectify these if they all had a shared knowledge pool.
This is a weird conversation to have with all the looseness, gappy joints and weirdo decisions (Kirishima partsforming for example) AY/Revoltech is known to have on occasion as well.
>>11197822I accept these kinds of things because it feels like they are constantly changing and evolving since AY started. It's experimental, they try new things, sometimes they fail, and they move on with another attempt. That's exciting to me. I much prefer a bumpy ride uphill than a line that finds an easy path and stagnates forever like Figma and SHF have.
>>11197828I don't know. I've seen some regression for AY as well, as well as some constant issues (if you consider them issues).The spike knees, the return to these 80s-tier knee joints, the way the shoulders have been handled for years and are still being handled. The QC I think is still hit or miss re: looseness/tightness.AY/Revo has always kind of stood out for me because while the quality wasn't something to boast about in most cases, the accessories (and thus play value) was top of the line for the price, but even that seems to be diminishing. Alongside some of that fun Kaiyodo shop exclusive tripe, of course. But I won't give Kaiyodo shit for that alone, even if it has irked me a lot, since GSC has done the same for ages and Bandai does DLC stuff.
>>11197828Tbf both Figma and SHF have also been switching things up recently, especially Figma, finally straying away from their tried and true formula. I would think everyone in this industry has enough experience by now to not have any figure that's a marked valley compared to their peaks, yet these things still seem to happen. A lot of these characters won't get another shot at a figure, let alone in a specific costume, so for every good figure, a bad one is much more notable.
>>11197834>I don't know. I've seen some regressionThis is not contradictory to my post though. Regression will happen sometimes if they feel they made a wrong choice and fall back to something older while trying to develop a new solution. It can also be the case with molds that are in development hell or tied up in licensing issues for a long time, and therefore do not have the most modern engineering. Toys are not made in a linear fashion one after another, there are usually multiple products in development at once, sometimes for years at a time. I worked for a toy company once and it was chaos, you need to realize that the behind the scenes isn't as organized as you imagine.The spike knees I do not understand at all, it has no engineering benefit so it seems to be just a stylistic thing Yamaguchi enjoys. Shoulders seem fine to me now, what is your problem with them? Same with QC, I have had no issues with any AY I've bought in the last few years. The knees I particularly have no issue with. It has long been my opinion that double knees are unnecessary if you engineer your toy right, and Yamaguchi has proved it. It gets perfect range, looks more seamless, and doesn't lose anything in terms of motion since it has a thigh swivel and boot cut (or balljoint) below.
>>11197835Figma has been doing some better joints other than the ol' tumor joints on some figures, which is a marked improvement. SHF has been getting better at anime likenesses. SHF just has to get their stuff together re: the different teams. Make one cohesive line rather than like 7 different teams or more all under the same name, but they release vastly different products.
>>11197860Nice
>>11197860So soon after Annie, nice. If that's it for the line that's a nice little collection, and I'd be content with it. Looking good for sure, maybe best of the three.
>>11197859One release with a regressive bit of engineering/sculpting, sure. But how many spike knees have we had at this point? Why are they still sticking ot the 80s knee engineering that they seem so fond of now but looks highly dated?>Shoulders seem fine to me now, what is your problem with them?Shoulders on revos/AYs have been contentious for a long time. The hollow deltoid/inner bicep with a double peg joining it to the chest and having one ball just stick around the trapezoid. See, I have grown to accept it for what it is, part and parcel for revoltech, but since we're in a discussion where we scrutinize mishaps and subpar engineering/decisions, I would enter that into the discussion as well.QC-wise, like half of my MHA figures are pretty loose and wobbly, like worse than most Figma/SHF QC issues. Todoroki basically felt bootleg-tier in terms of joint tolerances, even if the plastic quality itself was obviously Kaiyodo (and I pre-ordered it from AmiAmi, so this is not a bootleg fwiw.)Despite that, I'm still buying them, of course. I like AY/Revo, and I've got like 5 or so of them pre-ordered last I checked. But it doesn't mean I consider the line flawless, or even that it doesn't make some really jarring decisions often. For now, the pros outweigh the cons, and I feel this way about all the main import lines I collect, to be honest.
>>11197882>But how many spike knees have we had at this point? Why are they still sticking ot the 80s knee engineering that they seem so fond of now but looks highly dated?....bro, I literally directly addressed both of these things in the post you're replying to
>>11197886You addressed them, but you can't diminish them. We're not arguing about whether you acknowledge it, but that the line still adds them. And it does.
>>11197882>but looks highly dated?Why does it matter if they look dated? Old single jointed knees did not function well, that's why we switched to doubles. But Yamaguchi's thing was to re-engineer the single so that it worked as well as a double, thereby cutting out two extraneous parts from the mold and making it look better. It's ingenious, but idiots like you see single joint and think "OLD, it looks OLD," and cannot even begin to fathom the advances made.
>>11197891I don't think it looks all that good, though? That's the point of it. Engineering should be functional and look good. How am I an idiot for pointing out that moving backwards to 80s engineering that was thrown to the wayside because it looked janky still looks janky?
>>11197887The spike one was just an acknowledgement, sure, but it offered a reason: Yamaguchi just seems to like them visually. So why are you still asking the question? We;re not going to get an actual answer clearly, just speculation, and my answer is as good as any, so are you just going to keep flapping your lips to hear yourself talk?And I very much did address the single knee "issue," I think it is an advance in engineering that you are painting as a detriment. You haven't responded to that at all, or even provided a reason why they are bad beyond "it looks dated." So fucking what?
>>11197895I'm asking the question because it's an objectively flaw with the line and the designs. Which was the point of the topic. Or did you lose track of what this was all about?>I think it is an advance in engineering that you are painting as a detriment. Because it doesn't look good.
>>11197893Now I'm thinking you're actually illiterate. They weren't thrown aside because they "looked janky," it was because they didn't work well. That was the entire point of double joitned knees, to get past that 90 degree bend which people thought was inherent to single jointed knees back in the 90s. Which I just said and you apparently ignored.
>>11197897Okay, toy historian. They look janky now.
I left the discussion since >>11197810 and I'll throw in my two cents. The single knee joints AY use you might not want to call it true single joints. They are functionally double jointed, but the second joint is further down in the boots. The knee hinge might do most of the bend, but that second joint does a lot of work too. What that new figma in last thread is doing is true single knee. The main issue with actual double joint knees, each joint doing like 50% of the bend, it does not look great. Like this >>11191033 which may get a pass on robots but not humans. So take which ever poison you prefer. Supergirl did it and didn't look nice.For spikes, yeah it happens when a knee cap or armor has to be over the knee hinge. It can definitely be less defined if it was shorter and the outer side of the knee sculpt was connected to the rest of the lower leg. Less sticking out, more like half a gap pocket? Other alternative I can think of is if the knee sculpt stayed on the upper half of the leg. Some might prefer that.Shoulders, I think they are the best in the industry especially after ditching revolver joints so any negative is a huh???? to me.
>>11197896I compare these less baggy pants to SHF completely nailing Tanjiro’s extremely baggy pants and it makes me dislike these types of legs even more. Also personal note, fuck the people working on SHF Dragon Ball. They’re just jerking each other off at this point.
>>11197952If they sold Kaiyodo man for 5-6k yen I'd probably buy him. If they don't have the K on his chest he could double as a blank too.
>>11197955Or you know, just the blank they show with the expansion pack. Give a generic face with full features too.
>>11197954If SHF could get their fucking teams cooperating you'd get pretty good figures across the board, rather than some 9/10s mixed with 6/10s.
>>11197952>Shoulders, I think they are the best in the industry especially after ditching revolver joints so any negative is a huh???? to me.Hollow deltoids and biceps aren't everyone's cup of tea. Especially in the worst case scenario where there's also a big obvious ball on both trapeziuses.
>>11197952Superman would have looked so good like this instead of the nu52
>>11197963Sure, but that hollowness allows for a more natural looking inner movements of the arms when they go over the body. Other action figure's methods don't really form the same silhouette a person has in those poses. Usually with less range. As for seeing joints, this can be said for legs as well with the typically jointed figures. You see joints when bent or from the back, spreading legs for the hips, but they get a pass. AY is like the opposite of those figures, you see joints up top but not down below. But they seem to get a greater criticism. Just a pattern I noticed. You can dislike that and like the typical figures all you want. I don't see that ever changing for the arms, the basics haven't changed since the early days of Revoltechs.
>>11197959For sure. I guess they don't wanna risk it not selling. They probably are scared to sit on stock, but if at a low price, maybe a bundle with some accessories, it seems like a no brainer.
>>11197973I think there are so many blanks that came out they don't want to do it so late. And that they can't really do it cheaply either so better off doing an IP figure. Like Eren and Annie.
>>11197835>>11197868>Figma has been doing some better joints other than the ol' tumor joints on some figuresYeah, picrel should be the standard for engineering/joints to the whole toy industry, it's very pleasing to the eye.
>>11197973A middle ground I can think of is doing an AY blank in black and give it a head and chest to look like Mr Assemble. Make up a female version, call it Mrs Assemble. So it's not a plain boring blank. Forget all the modular gimmick of that line in this case. More like the Synthetic Human approach than Body-kun/chan,
>>11197978>marvel legends ab crunchaaaie...
>>11197981That would be fucking great, though I can't really see it happening, sadly. Could even make a new homage type character and call him Mr Amazing. >>11197975>And that they can't really do it cheaply either so better off doing an IP figure. Like Eren and Annie.I feel like they can do it cheaply. If after licensing and paint Eren and Annie end up 8500, they can surely do a blank figure with a few hands, completely unlicensed and unpainted, probably for 5-6k.
>>11198019>probably for 5-6kI doubt that's even possible though unless they print as much as Attack on Titan Revoltechs. It might be an unflavored property in the end but still one of the biggest titles for a good while there. The degree of mass production seem to level out a lot of those extra costs. For example greater popularity of the IP don't seem to add much to the pricing. Looks more like an inverted correlation because it affects total number being sold. Blanks are quite niche too so even with no painting costs all the other fees and low number of units would still make it cost more say than a SH Figuarts one.
>>11197978>Prototypes for a long while didnt show the shit looking ab>all of a sudden that ab cutSure we got thigh swivel but the ab looks like shit.
Just popping in because of the amazing news about Mazinger. Never owned a Revoltech, I was eyeing the Transformers ones in the 2000s but learned later on that the joints weren't too good, or something. I always wanted super robots that I could pose and play around with without having to treat them as fragile things, is this finally going to be the day?Similar question about Eva-01, the only other option seemed to be the RG model kit.
Mech franchise AY should do is Pacific Rim and try for all the main 4 Jaegers.
>>11198181YESonly the first movie though
>>11198187I don't know what you are talking about. There was only one Pacific Rim movie.
>>11198203My bad. Must've been hallucinating.
>>11197860He's so fuarking wide...
>>111982944 u
>>11198053>I doubt that's even possible though unless they print as much as Attack on Titan Revoltechs.But that's the thing, right? The whole current system of preorders is basically made to order, though I'm sure they have a target number in mind (at least the min order number), it's technically still a gamble because it isn't like they want to sit on stock. And besides, there's also no pre-development costs since it's already been made. Manufacturing costs are really not much of a factor after the steel molds, and even those aren't that all that pricey, a few tens of thousands, and this is something they could have in stock at their store for years to come as an entry level to this style of figure.I actually do wonder how they decide on pricing, same as every other company like GSC with Figma, since they also work off of a preorder model. I guess it's just an estimate, what pricepoint will result in the best sales, but also good profit, on top of development+manufacturing costs. If they lowball a figure and it does incredibly well and they costs per unit reduce, I guess they just profit more, and if it doesn't do so well, they just profit a bit less.
>>11197877I really hope that isn't it. Either of the Colossal Titans is probably out of the question, but I want at least one Jaw Titan. Preferably Porco, but I wouldn't say no to Ymir either.
>>11198366More forms would be neat.
>>11198387Ditto, not taking into account the story, some titans have really rad designs.
So I recently bought an Iron Spider, the first version and damn what a beauty of work. I thought the shoulders would bother me but so far there's no problem, albeit the legs are tricky to move imo.I'm quite scared of the knees even though they don't show signs of decay.The golden legs are a bitch though, they keep popping off cause the revo joints can barely be attached to some of them. I have some old joints there, I will see if I can change those.
>>11198325>Manufacturing costs are really not much of a factor after the steel molds, and even those aren't that all that pricey, a few tens of thousandsThat's not that little. Might be cheaper than like model kits molds but this isn't Bandai or even GSC, Kaiyodo just barely got into the black last term. And there are continuing costs like storage and property tax, so making molds isn't a carefree decision. And yeah the risk of not selling, even made to order or using a factory in general there is a minimum number, must be higher than that to be a reasonable price.Yeah the price is based on an estimate number of sales so if they get less orders I assume they'll be in a loss. But Revos are usually about 10,000 yen so selling the bare minimum for a factory 5~10 thousand figures should cover the costs? I only think being an Yamaguchi isn't enough of a punch to compete with all the cheaper Bandai blanks that keeps getting released. So breaking even might be difficult. I'm 100% sure there has been talks of doing Revo blanks for years so there's a good reason they're not doing it.
>>11198325Oh and you only said manufacturing costs, but transporting everything can't be cheap.
>>11198650>Yeah the price is based on an estimate number of sales so if they get less orders I assume they'll be in a loss.I'm sure things are priced such that there's never a loss, and that goes for every product on the market. Obviously within reason, they're not expecting something like 100 units in sales.>But Revos are usually about 10,000 yen so selling the bare minimum for a factory 5~10 thousand figures should cover the costs?Cover what though? Just cause Canadian prices are easier and around about 1/10 yen to cad, $100 5000-10000 is 500k-1mm, in which the mold costs are a tiny fraction of, let's say 40k (which is a fair bit for one figure), which would be less than 10%. Then manufacturing and raw materials and painting, so let's say 15%, paying Yamaguchi and the others however much, then shipping to continental Japan from China by boat, then shipping out to the stores that bought them, so probably all that under 50%. Then the rest is profit. Obviously just playing with numbers, actual costs could be more, or less. And if there are less sales, then scale down the shipping and the manufacturing, but the rest remain the same.Obviously I don't know all this for certain, but we have Kickstarters that total a couple to a few hundred thousand in dollars, with only something like 500-1000 backers if they're lucky, so how many units can they be making? They're obviously not making the same level of profits, but they're still managing to get all their stuff made on a much smaller level.
>>11198688It's good to have actual discussions in my opinion.
>>11198686Paying the sculptors, since they're employees (except Maoji or the Takeya people) you don't really need to think too hard about it, just salary but sales would reflect bonus. The price is the general figma and Revoltech price these days, they are similar tier of figures with number of parts, paint and material. Profits generated between GSC and Kaiyodo is nowhere close obviously. The 5 to 10k is what I see around as the minimum number a Chinese factory would accept a production so I think it's impossible to go below that without paying stupid fees. Those kickstarters are dealing with smaller places probably and not paying for like 50 now? employees so can cost that little. As for your % I have no idea how much each thing costs outside of a rough idea for the molds. The loss I'm thinking is if they only got preorder below the minimum number the factory is contracted to make. I doubt Kaiyodo can say cancel that and get money back, so they have old fashion overstock. Maybe the Tokyo Revengers AYs could be an example of this? Anyways, these guys are at these prices probably selling much more than the minimum, so a blank to be a desirable price they need to sell near the same quantity. That's all I'm trying to say.
>>11198712Oh it's about 70 people now they got a lot more new people than I thought. And in the process of hiring more right now if I'm not mistaken.
Looks good desu
>>11199090>soft goodsBased
>>11199099Always has been. The concern was the faux leather on there.
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>>11199104>The concern was the faux leather on there.it still IS. the figure has only been out of the box for a couple of hours
>>11193687>I want Golden Bat.based fellow skeleton ejoyer
Female Titan is up.
>>11200704>not on HLJ and HSwhy? thought this is general release?
>>11200788Eren wasn't, neither is she.
I didn't know the monoshaft legs could be removed, it looks difficult to do it though.
>>11201286>pic didn't loadFUCK
>>11201286They're PVC peg stuck into PVC hole so you heat them up to prevent likelihood of tearing the plastic then it's not that difficult. Some older figures are fragile to begin with, with their tiny pegs or poor quality plastic. But revoltech era should be fine.
>>11199090>>11199109>>11199110Hope they will reissue him in next few years, I wasn’t able to get him.
>>11199104Main reason why i skipped it.
>>11201345Probably will, and I bet they'll use regular cloth for the cape. One of the Mcfarlane Batman had a shiny finish cloth cape I don't understand why that AY Batman couldn't do the same.
>3Pchuds get one>MAFEXvirgins get one tooWHERE'S MINE?! HUH YAMAGUCHI?!?!?
>>11203425yamaguchads...
I can get over how wide he is, but the length of his legs are bothering the fuck out of me. I feel like if they make it SLIGHTLY longer it’ll look better.
>>11203626Bruce W. I. D. E?
>>11203626Is it true the shoulders are quite tricky to use?
>>11203626The kegs aren't really as bad as people thinks, the black shin guards throws you off. The knee is closer to the green arrow than the red arrow. The arms and shoulder widths looks ridiculous with posing methods so that's more of an issue if you want some sense of realism in a video game model.
>>11203773Look at the original design around the knee area and you see what I mean more clearly.
>>11203776Look at the black part on his left thigh and compare it to the figure’s. It definitely needs to be slightly longer.
>>11203791There's so much altering of sizes not sure you can focus on specifics like that. The black armor is tiny on the art for example. The art is like over 8 head units tall which is not that realistic, the AY is about 7 and a bit which is more natural for a human. Not sure about the game model. But the art proportions is weird looking too so not sure it should be followed to the T. Nothing can beat in-hand impressions so we have to wait.
>>11203791Arguing little shit like this is silly because Yamaguchi has reproportioned the entire design. Why is that one panel so significant to you when the largest thigh panel is now way wider since the sculpt has thicker thighs? In fact, almost none of the panels have the same dimensions as the model, because Yamaguchi is a stylized sculptor. People that are still expecting screen-accuracy instead of his take, are barking up the wrong tree.
>>11203812Yamaguchi didn't make this one.
>>11203626Maybe the crotch area on his diaper going that far down gives the illusion that his legs are shorter, though I assume it’s to make the articulation better?
>>11203812I respect people doing their own take on designs, the figure not being entirely accurate isn’t what’s bothering me. What’s bothering me personally are the legs looking weirdly short. If you don’t see anything wrong with them then that’s that.
>>11203842If we're going by head measurements, both of those legs in your pic are just fine, they both fall within the typical range for leg length. if they don't look right to you, that's fine too, but it has no bearing on whether they actually are the right length or not.
WHERE THE FUCK IS HE
>>11203853They announced like 10 new things at once, one of them had to be the last one. Sucks to be you.
>>11203853don't really careguy in shirt and zesty haircut doing kung fu isn't that interesting
>>11204544That's kind of the point. AY as a line is about having an articulation model so good, people will buy pretty much any character design using it.
>>11204832I just think it's one of the weaker OPM designs.And it's not even the transformed version.
>>11204851I agree. I don't hate him, but there are a dozen other characters I would want because their designs are so much cooler. Thankfully Revo don't seem afraid to do older character designs like Mirko in MHA, so I don't think we can rule out Boros, but I think Deep Sea King is a longshot. Damn, I would love to get Deep Sea King and Mumen Rider.
>>11205167I think villains like those are likely not happening for OPM. It took so many characters to get to one for MHA, and overall ratio wise there are so few entries across all the AY IPs, most are Batman villains (if you could call most of them that). For OPM in particular they are meant to show up and get killed by Saitama in a comically fast way it's kind of like asking for SHFs of monster of the week one time kaijin in Sentai or Rider shows. We'll probably get Mumen Rider, Metal Bat and Silver Fang for the next batch assuming the first three sells. Maybe Sonic instead because AY loves ninjas. Or Zombieman to scratch that DMC Dante itch people will always have. After that we start seeing girls like Tatsumaki...well probably just her. Nobody with complex design or paint job, easy money good profits they move to the next IP. Because that's most of the OPM main characters.
>>11203842Oh man, right looks like an angry manlet.
>>11203853Yamaguchi will sculpt it himself right?
>>11205210>For OPM in particular they are meant to show up and get killed by Saitama in a comically fast wayYeah, it's a shame that the main antagonist after season 1 that lasts more than an episode is so plain looking. I still think Boros has a small chance considering he lasted more than one punch.>SonicI never mentioned him because I have no doubt that Yamaguchi will do him. He would be insane not to.>it's kind of like asking for SHFs of monster of the week one time kaijin in Sentai or Rider showsI know I am the outlier in this instance, but the only reason I watched Power Rangers as a teen was for the toku monsters. I've been buying the LC monsters because there is almost no other option. I otherwise own zero Rangers because I have no need for a rainbow pyjama party on my shelf.
I think monster are coolers than the heroes
>>11205265>>11205359Yeah not really the temperament of Japanese toy industry. Except for old Ultra kaiju and Zeon MS.>>11205265Maybe Orochi has more of a chance, it's more in that main bad guy position (seemingly) and would be interesting piece of sculpture. The tendrils would make a fun gimmick as an AY. Has to be out of scale wit the rest though, but hey it can go with the Titans, Mazingers, and Evangelions lol.
Is taking apart and repainting Revoltechs a thing?They never made a kit for Ardjet, only an RT figure.. I figured I could take it apart, repaint the metallic stuff.IDK how seperated these things are though, or if anyone has done this before
>>11206632>repaint the metallic stuff.why?
anyone have Thor? how is he?
>>11206758I have him. He's a 6/10 figure to me. His cloth cape will transfer red paint onto his neck and his legs will become loose. But the worst part are his lightning accessories. Unlike other AY accessories that pegs into the figure, Thor's accessories wraps around him. The thing is the material used is somewhat soft. They don't properly grip things once you stretched it and they fall off very easily. I only got him because he reminds me of dwarf from Dragon's Crown.
>>11206654NTA, but im guessing its because its getting sticky. Most older revoltechs with metallic paint are very prone to having the plasticizer leak
taskmaster AY when
anyone get yusei yet? looks like he's been out for nearly a week
>>11207156>Most older revoltechs with metallic paint are very prone to having the plasticizer leakUnless you and anon are using the wrong terms, no they didn't. Actual metallics (like with metal powders mixed in) are pretty much fine, it was mostly high-gloss and candy coat paint that went bad. Ardjet uses a combo of matte, metallic, and pearlized paint, those all typically held up better over time.
>>11206758best Thor on the market imo. The most poseable and most fun. Just straight up cool af
>>11207450He's a goddamn manlet though
>>11207450have any pics for scale?
forming a manifestation circle for a good yamaguchi hulk
>>11207693Pics?
>>11207693willing modern DMC revos into existence
Welp, we have now pics of the armored titan. Lame as fuck accessories and the extra piece is a teeth-clenching face.It will cost 9350 yen iirc.
>>11207756wait, couldn't he also make his body even harder like eren and the female titan?
>>11207407>>11207156It's not always a paint issue. PVC itself can be the source of leakage. Usually the softer ones because they have a higher amount of the plasticizers. But it's not always the case but a matter of probability. I think it's the quality of the chemicals, like impurities that ultimately determines the level of leakage. Because some companies it almost never happens and they must have good suppliers.
New Revoltechs (mostly AYs) that will never likely happen, within reasonable proximity to the IPs they have or can likely obtain>Hulk>any DMC>any Spider-Man villain that's not a symbiote>any other Spider-Women>any other Marvel female characters>Wonder Woman 2.0>Eva AngelsFeel free to add on more.
>>11207800DaredevilMore BNHA characters
>>11207800OVA Devilman
>>11207756>doesn't even post pictures
>>11207873Are the bottom hands pair of weapon holding hands?
>https://www.kyd-store.jp/c/genre/amazing-yamaguchi_g_r/nr069>intense locker room scene with gay asians
>>11207800>Fantastic Four>Captain America 2.0 (Classic ver)>Punisher>Loki, Green Goblin (a lot of villains really, although I feel like the next Avengers movies will finally give us Doom)>A jester outfit Harley Quinn
>>11207800The recent ML made me think that an AY death's head would kick a ton of ass, and they could probably get the approval too, but he's beyond literally who tier for like 99% of capeshit fans
>>11207875Why not just add this faceplate to all copies? What’s this obsession kaiyodo has to remove one tiny accessory for the sake of exclusivity? It coming out as asshole behaviour at this point.
>>11208107My guess is that store exclusive parts drive more sales directly to their own shop, where they make more profit because they don't have to pay a cut to retailers. Many companies are doing it now, I think Figma was the first to really make it a regular thing. The thing is, it's not even that big of a deal if you live in Japan (their main demographic). It's kind of only a pain in the ass if you're an international customer.
>>11208113also, I am aware that retailers like Amiami, Hobbysearch, etc. also offer discounts to Japanese customers. So essentially, if you live in Japan you have a choice: go with the original company to get the exclusive part, or go with another webshop to get a slight discount instead. Not too bad of a scheme for them.
>>11208107they need to make money back so they're getting desperate
>>11207468>>11207479if you got your figures posed like theyre supposed to instead of standing around like a bunch of dweebs, then i think scale doesnt matter much. But either way he looks like a good Thor size to me next to my Mafex and Shf
>>11208115Outside of like Disney Revoltechs, Marvel, and MHA AYs there aren't any discounts at retailers AFAIK after the grey box brand reboot. So a lot of the time there is no difference just benefits ordering direct.
>>11208107It's the same shit figma and bandai do. It's nothing personal just business, I don't know why you take it so personal against kaiyodo when everyone else do it. Doesn't mean that I like it
>>11208634kaiyodo has somehow managed to do it worseespecially for releases that are already anemic to begin with
>>11208253thanks he does look really good, i just can't stand that face he has
Batmanlet
>>11209561Also flat out deceptive advertising.
>>11209563Did they have Bats standing on a box and didn't think they should fix the sculpt?
>>11209561I guess Yamaguchi’s genius, flawless, and innovative vision was to make Batman embarrassingly short? Alright I guess.
inc people insisting this is actually better because reasons and yamaguchi is a visionary
>>11209563>>11209563im not sure about this promotional image but the original Joker was also significantly taller than the original Batman, so there's an established trend of them not wanting him to be taller than his villains (as far as AY is concerned)
im wondering if AY is steering towards more standardized 1/12. Not that the line HASN'T been that scale to begin with, but the extreme superhero proportions of the dudes made them pretty massive compared to most 1/12 male characters, and then all the women were tiny compared to the men until catwoman. The original arkham knight is huge too. Just for the record the catwoman they put out was specifically the arkham knight variant and the height difference between her and batman isnt THAT massive ingame
>>11209561Common non yamaguchi sculpted figure L
>>11209780Kaiyodo's giving kevin conroy's batman performance the proper tribute
>>11209780>rightfully* shortGood. That'll knock those batwank down a peg
>>11208650>kaiyodo has somehow managed to do it worseHow? Explain it
>>11209780It's not sculpted by Yamaguchi.
>>11210433Supergirl is even bigger than Catwoman. But the female characters were almost out of scale to the males so this is more of an improvement. The more anime style girls like that video game doll character and the 3 Railgun girls seem big compared to say figma and figuarts. But the males I think it's more of a case of not giving a crap about relative scaling to past releases. Nothing has been that off compared to that old M/F divide. These are non-scale, and we now have actual giants at the same height. The difference in art style like SF6 might make the relative scaling feel off too. I'm not even sure how the non AY Revoltechs like Yugioh would be like. Figure size changes slightly as they finalize production so I think it's too much trouble that's ultimately worthless effort.
>>11210434>>11210585NTA but what’s the point of calling it an Amazing Yamaguchi if Yamaguchi isn’t the one sculpting it? How come Neos is labeled as a revoltech but this Batman isn’t?
>>11209563Fast and furious energy
Comic book bros...I don't feel so good
>>11210714The only difference between AY and Revoltechs today is Yamaguchi's involvement which varies from sculpting to directing. What that director role involves we have no idea. He basically has some new sculptors who works with him where he's the team manager. The ones with no AY name are not done by that team. It's dumb and why we have My Hero Academia figures that are AY or are just Revoltechs.
>>11210761I'm guessing director has something to do with engineering and how it articulates. Like he directs them how he wants the figure to move, and then his underlings actually sculpt the details.
>>11210768You'd think that, but I don't think it's that hands on. Especially now that they all work digitally. Like Yamaguchi just has to share the starting basic body sculpt data with Sakamoto for example. And Sakamoto finished up the actual sculpting. Yamaguchi might take a look at the end, he might not. Something like that is how Attack Titan would be done for example. And AY now has a fairly established jointing method after DP2, so it's not that difficult to mimic it without Yamaguchi having to do it every time. I noticed many of the new female AYs are copying that standardized Male AY jointing method, sometimes in unsuitable way for the character design like Chun Li's legs. That feels more like an undirected, blind utilization of the AY articulation style. And sometimes I just can't see Yamaguchi having any involvement besides maybe assigning the job. Supergirl has different joint scheme and sculpt style for the lower body. Mainly the asstech and the knee joints are nothing like Yamaguchi's. So I would guess there's very little "directing" going on. Monster Hunter AYs have unique shoulder articulation we haven't seen before or since. With Herta I'm not even sure Yamaguchi knew that was made.But they could all be directions by Yamaguchi, with strange decisions that he just never tried with his own sculpts. Seems unlikely though.
>>11210714Brand recognition. Same thing Ubicuck is doing to assassin's creed. Players are more likely drawn to familiar things like "Assassin's Creed Nipland" as opposed to "WE WUZ SAMURAIZ N SHIET"
>>11210806Wow, so edgy Jimmy! Go wash up for bed now
payment invoices are going out for neos
>>11190571>Evangelion Unit-01 (Rebuild of Evangelion)*vomits*
>>11209561>not only bad proportions, but also a manletlmao glad I didn't buy this shit
>>11210714I said kaiyodo and you didn't answer my question
>>11211659Didn’t even realize I replied to you and not >>11210639. My bad lol.
Huh. That Cyber Dragon statue is a general release (i.e. places like HLJ has it, has discount) when the Revoltechs are not. You'd think the big expensive statue would be more niche. The mini figurines they made sense to be general release.
>>11210714>but this Batman isn’t?Technically the full name of AY now is Revoltech Amazing Yamaguchi. Because a few years ago they said they were dropping all the stupid names and call everything Revoltech again. But they lied and kept the AY name in there still while pretending they didn't because they add Revoltech to the full name. They somehow still managed to stay confusing with brand names.
>>11207693>>11207751I realized I'd love an AY Conan the Barbarian, but fuck me if they ever actually get the license.
>>11207800MOTU characters, I know there are Sofubi and Nendos of Skeletor and He-man but in my case I'd cream myself with an AY Scare Glow, that shit is never ever happening but in my dreams sadly. >A jester outfit Harley QuinnSeconding this, I just want an AY TAS HQ ffs
>>11212369>MOTUNot what I had in mind when I wrote reasonable proximity. Don't want a list of random IPs. No fun saying no AY classic Doomguy or The Last of Us characters, the Barlog, Digimon, and so on>>11208011Good list. I wouldn't count FF out though, future movies might create demand and yeah I agree Dr Doom will likely get an AY so having the heroes to go with might not be a stretch. Speaking of stretch, I think the FF members mostly have toyetic charms that work as AYs. A fire man and a rock man are simple and fun action figures. Mr. Fantastic would be an interesting challenge to pull off representing his stretching powers, but I think Yamaguchi can do it with clever use of modular parts. Invisible Woman would be the least interesting, I guess they can do an Astral and include a transparent state as a static/semi-poseable statue along with the AY usuals, some effect pieces .
neos reviewhttps://youtu.be/Ifg2fYLPxMY?si=Z3UR20bi9boirrPm
>>11213158What the fuck is the reason for that head connection dude.
>>11213158It looks like there's zero use of ball-in-socket joints. Everything is done by some form of Geo Joints like old Revos using Revolver Joints. Except for the hips, but could be geo joints hidden inside there too.Very old school engineering but at least it seems effective.
>>11213277Yeah it's like Ohtsu has been living under a rock and don't know about all the ball joints available. Or he just doesn't want anything too similar to an AY? He can't move past all those Assemble Borgs he made and the joints must be ball hinges.
>>11213277who knows, im glad that that weird little neck piece is removable at least. going to see how it looks without it once my copy comes in.
>>11213312You'll have a floating head connected by a tiny black joint without that piece covering it all.
>>11213383Yikes
Opinions on the Monster Hunter armor sets?
>>11213383>>11209561Shit like these is why those doomers were right to be skeptical about having different sculptors for the AY line. Where the niggas that said they were fine with having different sculptors?
>>11215100Miruko was already a huge red flag
>>11209561>WAHHH THE CAPE WILL BE EVISCERATED IN 5-10 YEARS!!!Why the FUCK are people crying so hard about the cape? I get the proportions and the height, those are genuine criticisms, but for fucks sake in 5 fucking years you can definitely afford a custom cape, or they'll come up with another fucking "definitive" Batman figure by then.
>>11215534because the material is good looking but has basically 0 longevity
>bought the Revoltech accessory set 2>everything is too large for my Figma/Figuarts handsDammitAt least the blood splatter is cool
>>11215625I really need to hunt down both sets for some of the effects.
>>11215625Considering the size of AYs that was a "no shit Einstein"
>>11215100Yu Gi Oh is unrelated to that. Revoltech always had multiple sculptors, as early as No.10 in 2006.
>>11215064Funny you ask. I managed to find a Kirin U Vulcanlog for a really good price. The person selling it was literally a couple hours away from me so my local UPS had it since Friday which is kinda annoying, but for some reason they REALLY want to deliver it tomorrow for whatever reason which is also kinda annoying. Anyway it’s my first MonHun revo so I’ll let you know if it’s good.
>>11215534- why are you replying to a post that has nothing to do with capes?- 5-10 years is incredibly optimistic. I collect 1/6 so I have a lot of pleather pieces, and some started flaking in less than 2- You are telling people they should just get used to the idea that they will have a mandatory $30-40 addon to buy in the future...- ...or even worse, telling them that the brand new toy they just bought has a ticking expiry date on it. This is true of all material goods of course in the long term, but nobody wants to be loudly reminded of it after just dropping ~$100.Are you really that much of a corporate bootlicker? "Just spend more money" to make up for the company's poor decisions? Why not start buying all the shitty $5 toys on the market then? You can afford to replace their joints, repaint them, and buy their missing accessories on the aftermarket, right?
>>11215885This. It was a pants on head post.The pleather looks great, and I'll give it that: it looks great on the figure. But like rubber body overlays on figures, it's destined to fall apart. Nobody wants to buy a figure knowing that that is an inevitability. They should've just done a regular fabric cape.
>>11215882Please do so, I'm interesting in how their armors hold on. I'm tempted on getting Rathalos, despite the outdated movements, his design is really rad.
>>11215064>>11215882>>11216021>kirin galsthey're pretty alright but for some reason my kirin girl's head pops off easy while my oroshi girl's fine>teo hunterhe looks really good and the CB's cool but he's such a bitch to stand without help from a stand or the small effect basearticulation isn't as good as the other vulcanlogs, too much stuff hindering him from doing very dynamic poseseasily the worst of the four>glav hunterhe's greathas the most yamaguchi feel of the vulcanlogshe surprisingly has an extra weapon, a dagger, while the other three get only oneeasily the best of the four>malz hunterhe has a bit of a hard time doing very dynamic poses because he's built like a barrel but I still like him a lot despite that>garon hunterfantasticone of my favorite figures of this yearhe looks great, sturdy and has that yamaguchi feeleasily my favorite of the MH revos>rath and zin huntersI didn't get them because they're manlets compared to the rest unfortunately
>>11216065fuckin love dis mf
>>11216065>garon hunterI should've picked this fucked when he was on pre-order. I'll cross my fingers and wish he might get reissued.>I didn't get them because they're manlets compared to the rest unfortunatelyDang it
Now that Dabi’s out, should Ochaco be coming sooner?
>>11216883uraraka comes out next month
>>11216021>>11216065Got a hold of the Kirin U figure and I love how it looks. Posing it though has been a challenge. I have 3 older revoltechs and they feel exactly the same as this figure, but since they’re robots it doesn’t feel as difficult to get them in a cool pose. I dunno if it’s cope or what, but I’m having a good time figuring out how to get good poses on this figure. Her being really hot definitely helps, she’s more tan than the original Kirin figure and it’s fucking great.
>>11217260When next month?
>>11217666probably the end of next month
Shit, one of my Shiggy’s cape tassels broke when was trying to put it in, but the figure itself is fine.What should I do?
when?
>>11217809Or maybe a way to take out the broken joint and replace it with a new one?
>>11217827Drill with a pin vise. You either drill in a little and pull out the joint with the thinnest one or completely drill it with the 3mm drill.
>>11217981I mean 2mm. 4mm joints have 2mm pegs my bad.
>>11217981>>11217983Where's the best place to get replacement/substitute joints?
>>11218131Shigaraki came with at least one extra 4mm joint iirc. Might be a black one. You buy enough AYs you collect a few extra 4mm joints, sometimes 6mm. Not sure if the pegs are exact match but you could try some Hobby Base joint sets that they release every now and then. Only certain sets have that type of joint though.
>>11218154The black one that came with him doesn’t fit.
>>11218167The most likely none of the other ones would then. You'll have to adjust the pegs or the holes, shave off or add more layer.
>>11218167Is it like a small Revolver joint? If so, look for Revoltech joints on eBay or Aliexpress. They sell (possibly bootleg, possibly factory discard) joints on there in little packs.
>>11218176Advice on adjusting pegs?
>>11218195Layer or superglue always works. Or just stuff tissues. If the hole is too narrow you can heat it up first. But I think it's too loose right? Because the cape joints have mushroom pegs probably.
>>11218198Photo for measure.
>>11191236This. I'm so fucking sick of rebuild shit. GIVE ME THE TV EVAS!
>>11218222Yeah I have him, I know it's the same joint. That snapped half probably is a mushroom peg because it's hard to pull out. You drill it out and make the extra black joint fit and you're all set.
>>11207800I know popularity in Japan isn't as high, one among many many many titles that comes and goes, but too bad FMA didn't get a second run with today's AY quality. We get properly scaled Elric brothers, some Homuculi, Scar maybe. The military alchemists perhaps.
