Welcome to the Fashion Doll General!A thread for discussion of fashion dolls including Barbie, Disney, LOL OMG, Rainbow High, Monster High, Licca-chan etc but not BJD. There is a BJD general over in /jp/.Other toys considered dolls as well as girl collectable toys that are related to dolls or can be used as accessories to dolls are also welcome such as LOL, Shopkins, Polly Pocket and the like.*Reminder to REPORT trolling, bait and off topic posts instead of responding.*Previous Thread: >>11165815>Archived Threads:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/Fashion%20Doll%20General/>Helpful Links:Fixing frizz:https://youtu.be/Q5BixBJG-Ik Dealing with glue seepage:https://youtu.be/JNT7EG507iA Materials for customizing face, hair, and clothes:https://youtu.be/iBtrDdHA8y8Sewing pattern books from Google+, reuploaded:https://mega.nz/folder/iFd3wapa#B70grHUe4xsTkLU_s8Ag_Q
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>>11219938The thunder and cloud highlights in her eyes are cute but the weird circles in her iris don't look good.The body is still disappointing but i'm sure g3 stan will find a reason to justify it but since it Annalise design they can't wait to suck on her dick
>>11219938They did her so dirty
>>11219938Unpopular opinion: I think G3 Jinafire's base doll is cute.
reposting the dolls I saw today
the day of the dead dolls were quite beautiful in person
rey and the gaga stormtrooper were on sale for $50 - the rewind dolls were cool, I hope they continue the series
>>11220293You're not being different, that's the popular opinion
>>11220298Her crown looks like bath loofahs.
>>11220309Really? i keep seeing everyone shit on her lol
>>11220391Here on /toys/ yes but if you go any other collector spaces (instagram, facebook, reddit, twitter, discord and telegram groups) her reception is overly positive. Here people can freely criticize without any social consequences. Because in those other spaces you can easily be excluded and harassed for actual unpopular opinions or mildly inflammatory statements.
>>11219938something about jinafire feels baldwould've loved horns
Quick edit, just the skin and hair to give her more of a classic Jinafire look
>>11220648maybe make the bangs purple so they would fit the eyeshadow and skirt?
>>11219938Why does she have lower prominent fangs like Abbey? Seems odd
>>11220648I really wish they had just gone either all green or all gold for her skinIf they had she'd be one of the better G3 dolls, imo. Instead she's just fucking annoying me It's like they're doing everything they can to make sure the dolls don't look as good as they should
>>11220796Personally I can’t stand the purple. Also quick attempt at antlers
>>11220974This would be the one for me, the black is so much better for her skirt, she looks very stylish.
>>11220974yes the antlers!She needs them!
>>11220974I like that a lot actually. Girl could have been the best G3 had to offer but they really had to fuck her up somehow, I guess
I can't even get excited or disappointed by Jinafire because Venus and Catty haven't even arrived in my country yet, and it's going to be ages since Jinafire will appear
New Barbie in a fashion pack set, sporting the popular Odile face mold and more old school style eyes
>>11222170She's cute.
>>11222170Hot. She looks like a bimbo. I bet she doesn't wear panties.
>>11220974way fucking better
>>11222854Modern barbies wear molded on panties
>>11221572Me too we just got abbey and clawd but strangely enough we also got more "recent" stuff like core refresh, skulltimate secrets 4 and monster fest
Tons of people got their welcome committee Frankie order cancelled. That doll is definitely not coming out now.
>>11220648Yes, thank you! I really wanted to see this edit! Damn, that looks actually really good. The outfit is not too busy when her skin & hair aren't such a mess.
>>11222916Yup, mine was yesterday. RIP. I really liked Frankie with black lipstick and the only other one close to that has stupid lightning eye shadow.
If Jinafire can't be all gold because it's yellowface, I'd prefer she be all green rather than the half'n'half situation. I also don't like Lagoona's leg gradient for the same reason, I think it looks a mess. Here's my ideal Jinafire, a jade dragon.>>11222916Rest in peace best Frankie
>>11223553>Jinafire can't be all gold because it's yellowfaceShe was supposed to be golden doe. Man, people these days are retarded.
>>11223553>>11223573Gold skin definitely looked more striking and dragon-like but I do like the pastel green and purple colors as they are more pleasing. Also gold and silver paint do bleed/transfer more easily. Idk why everyone is trying to add horns, original didn't have it even though they would look cool.
>>11223588>Idk why everyone is trying to add horns, original didn't have it even though they would look cool.Same reason new Abbey has horns now. It's cool
>>11223553>If Jinafire can't be all gold because it's yellowfaceFunny thing the "jin" in her name mean gold in chinese.>>11223573Also a lot of fan who criticize her don't know the diference between chinese american and mainland chinese and usually want the former when talking about the later.>>11223588She doesn't bleed the gold is mixed within the plastic.Some asian dragon are depicted with antlers like horns just like other folklore beast for exemple qilin.
>>11223553yellow asian herestop being over-sensitiveit's not that deep
>>11219938Do you guys ever see yourself being done with collecting/amassing dolls in the future?When do you reckon you'll feel your doll collection is complete?
The new 12 Days of Christmas Barbie will be dropping November 7th at 9 AM Pacific. She'll set you back $160.
>>11223919The stuff she comes with seems pretty lackluster for the price.
>>11223896That's sorta where I am honestly, I dont feel that push to get new dolls or hunt for older ones, I've gotten a good sized collection of everything I wanted, I feel very content where I am with it and Rea only get a new doll once like every other month or so
>>11223919>>11223921These haven't seemed all that worth it beyond the first one
>>11223553The green is honestly a neat look, I also can't stand the weird two tones shit they're doing with her and Lagoona
>>11223553>>11223588HmmmDoes G3 not do fully detailed scupts for the bodies anymore at all? It's a bit weird seing G3 Jinafire's heavily detailed lower legs and then her thighs just being completely smooth. Because the detailed body sculpts are honestly one of my favorite things with G1>>11223896I've reached the point where I feel like my MH collection is mostly complete and immediately used it as an excuse to start collecting OMGs while still keeping an eye out for the last few MH dolls I wantAfter that, idk. I might move more into actively making more customs to add to my MH collection desu. Kinda tempted to try my hand at an OMG custom too eventuallyI think I just have the brain of a magpie and feel the constant urge to collect shinies (or dolls, as it were). Always been like this. Before it was dolls I was just collecting other shit instead
>>11224618Wtf this is the first time I'm hearing about this sort of problem, can you post pics?
>>11223573You'd think that with all the beating and yelling their first gen parents do that Asian diasporoids wouldn't be so retarded, but here we are
>>11224158>Does G3 not do fully detailed scupts for the bodies anymore at all?Yeah it sucks they didn't sculpt her scales or at least not partially on her legs because they do detailed things for g3. Like for g3 Frankie has the robot leg, Lagoona has gradient legs, Abbey has little horns, Cleo and Venus have monster features on their leg sculpts instead of being accessories/clothes.
>>11224158>>11224752Wait nevermind you gaslit me into thinking g3 Jinafire doesn't have scales but she does. It's just her lower half to keep her thighs more cutesy which is fine.
>>11224627DON'T BE MEEAAN REEE
Shunya Yamashita version statues for the g1 girls are coming.
>>11224752>>11224753You sound like a g3 stan. Ofc the earlier g1 characters lack body sculpt but the later releases puched a lot of bondaries and gave us the details you mentioned on others characters before debuting on the main ghouls in g2.Plus even g2 had more detailed bodies, like for exemple cleo whole torso with on arm and leg are covered in bandages compared with g3 where it's only a lower leg and forearm. In g1 the cam mummie had her whole body covered and cleolei the fusion had smaler patches of bandages on her whole body too.G3 is very lazy in that regard because that was one of monster high best design quirk.
>>11224753>you gaslit meYour lack of reading comprehension isn't my fault, hunI quite literally said that the heavily detailed legs look fucking weird with the unsculpted thighs. And they do. It ain't cute They might have been able to get away with it if they had sculpted in an actual transition from unscaled to scaled skin, but asking G3 for some thought and effort is way too much, apparently
US set
>>11225406I like the movie well enough but this just seems really random
>>11225406I mean, they're cute and I like them, but I also kinda wish they'd stick to more classic horror movies (I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't absolutely eat up a The Purge set if they happened to make one, though)Guess the newer horror stuff has to sell well enough if they're still making more
>>11225565>>11225689They probably just wanted to make black horror dolls. There is quite a few black villain horror films that would have better doll designs, like Candyman or Vamp, but they didn't get as popular as Peele's stuff.
>>11226075Candyman is CLASSIC horror, one of the most well known slashers wtf are you talking about, it'd make more sense than this.
>>11226075Eeeh, I guess I'll give you that Peele's stuff might have more modern day mainstream success, but Candyman is still an absolute classic as far as a slashers go (I'd argue it's also one of very best ones out of the classics too)>>11226238A Candyman doll could've been so cool, even if they'd probably pull the mandatory genderbend with himIdk how much licensing plays into the collector's dolls, so maybe that's a factor in what gets made too?
For those of you who collect dolls that don't really have official names - do you name them?Or do you just refer to them as Barbie Looks #xx or w/e?
>>11226330i call them by their sculpts, if not I just use the brand name + a few adjectives if i have multiple
>>11225406They're gonna flop like the squid game one and the future megan one, their ip are just too recent and lack any hype for the media fan to careThey should do more iconic horror freddy, jason, carrie, ghostface, coraline... and more "parent" we still need the mummy, the ivisible man and the wolfman or teen wolf from the 80s for more camp
>>11226330I guess they technically do already have names, but I have given all of my OMGs actual human names, because it feels like that makes more sense than constantly thinking of them as whatever "X + some variation of the word girl, probably misspelled" they're actually named on the box
Thrifted this farrah fawcett doll to steal the outfit for another doll I thrifted, what is it with celebrity dolls being so deeply cursed
>>11228051Jawsome!
the website on the wicked doll boxes redirects to a porn site
>>11228237>It's real Someone's getting fired
>Wicked doll has a porn site link on the back
>>11228237>>11228304>>11228333>Implying it wasn't done on purpose
>>11228364No anon, I dont think they intentionally put the name of a porn website on the back of children's toys
>>11228367>Didn't think the company ran by gay pedophiles would try to introduce porn to children to make them sex workers quicker.
>>11223896When toy companies claim making fabric clothing for dolls is becoming unfeasible then turn to making plastic/rubber clothing for fashion dolls.
>>11228385Sir this is a Wendy's
New Miniverse, looks like they're leaning further into the DIY aspect
Also New series 4 cafe
>>11228400From scratch?So it'll come with like clay or something to make the cakes, I guess? What's the chance of them actually including reusable molds that don't require a bunch of additional plastic crap to make anything of worth beyond the initial project?
>>11228427Looks like its still resin, and basic cake pan molds so should be decently reusable
>>11228385>risk major public humiliation and recall of their biggest brand collab of the year right around the holiday season just to potentially expose some kids to thumbnails of porn
>>11228385anon take your meds
>>11228438Huh. Might be worth actually picking some up once they come out then
>>11219938Is she out in stores yet? My wife has been getting back into MH and I want to surprise her.
>>11228438Huh... A two part resin maybe? You can't use UV resin for opaque materials so the cakes can't be UV resin. I feel like it would have to be some other material. These are really interesting though, I like the idea a lot better than the shitty makeup they also just announced.
>>11228871Oh, you're right actuallySeeing the powder mixed into some kind of liquid, I'd guess it's some kind of unspecified "modeling compound" or something?
Fearbook second wave
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>>11229933They're so out of ideas they're just doing Art Class Abbey again?Could at least have picked a more interesting doll as inspiration if they're gonna retread old ground, imo
>>11229933>>11229934Can they stop giving abbey blue hair it really washed her out and maker her look monotone, plus it's so short like where are the inches after giving us two poly dolls.Plus she's really mid, the dress is cheap and lack something, not even her henna hand can save her but i know the stan will eat her up regardless.>>11229933>>11229935Venus look is so dated it giving 2015 tumblr girl, like the floral overall and bomber jacket combo with the chelsea boots all she's missing is a floppy hat.The hair is ok but having a middle part on the afro instead of side part was a choice plus the green on top look ugly
>>11230026I think it's a fine callback, it's not like it is a 1 to 1 attempt at a recreation, the outfit is whatever but her base doll is pretty, I like the frosty lip
>>11229933i like 'fro venus but christ those outfits are so fucking cheap and tacky
>>11229933I miss rainbow high and omg level of quality clothes and design.
>>11219938Golden Fluid Acrylics to touch up doll faces, yes or no?I have a doll with uneven eyeshadow and patchy eyeliner.
>>11229933Yawn. I'm just happy we're getting more lines that aren't blind box crap or low effort budget dolls.
>>11230457The next line "deluxe" line is scary sweet birthday a remake of sweet 1600. But i dout it will be more than usual.The characters are drac, frankie, cleo and cupid plus a playset clawdeen.But this line may be at another core price of $25 because monster ball flopped at $30 so monster fest price point was reduced as a result.Plus with the whole trump tarrifs system they could be even more lower quality with even more cut corners : cheaper shorter hair, laser cut printed fabrics, plastic corsets, more DEI printing on the accessories .
>>11228237>>11228333Temped to buy a few now. Will these become collectible due to the box misprint?
>>11230573 maybe but I doubt they'll be worth much
>>11230573They are almost completely pulled online, so good luck finding a store that will sell them to you. They moved quick on the recall.
>>11230573The prices for them on ebay are ridiciulous. I found all of the retail dolls being sold for $1100 & free shipping on an eBay listing this afternoon. At regular price, the set would be $300 (and some taxes).
>>11230573Check your Walmart and remove any sharpie censoring on the box, if there is any.
Creepros are officially dropping on 11/20 for the US and they will be exclusive to Amazon.
>>11232298Why do they leave Cleo out
>>11232332She's not part of the re-release.
>>11232298They will also be in some european store, i had a magazine ad for them in my local toy store chain.Maybe they will aslo release them in store again.
>>11232332She was re-released last creepro.
>>11232298Will they ever re-release C.A. cupid?
>>11228871>>11229902Might be Jesmanite or similar 'Resincrete' product that got popular over the last few years.
>>11231633Even censoring the website link via white out or Sharpie would've been better than doing this recall. Mattel is BEYOND dumb for removing the dolls out of the stores with the movie in U.S. theaters next week.
>>11223896I think I’m approaching that point, though the last few dolls I really have to have are a bit expensive so it might take me a while. It’s not necessarily about already having all the dolls I want but more so that I’m starting to get overwhelmed by how many dolls I have, like 50+, which might not be a lot to some but I feel unable to appreciate them all, plus I don’t have room to display half of them. And I like to do restyles so I don’t need to be constantly getting dolls (even if the scavenger in me wants to).>>11226330I do give my Barbies names for fun but sometimes I forget and call them whatever is convenient
>>11226330Yes, I like making them into different characters. I write them down in a small notebook and make up a character description over the course of a few days, or however long I have ideas for.
>Complains about how expensive the everything is>lets the good quality product line flop or waits for a discount>Retailers notes unpopularity and doesn't want to carry projects like this in the future>MGA cancels future projects that are improvements on the previous>Cancelled new product line and photos gets leaked Aliexpress> "WHY WE WERE ROBBED >:.((((( Why would MGA do this to us?!?!?!"
>>11236966The problem was that MGA overloaded the shelves with dolls all at once and people are broke as shit, like yeah no shit some dolls are gonna shelf warm if you're putting 20+ on the shelf and they all cost $28 and up. And their stupid decisions with their collectors dolls bit them in the ass, like the Day of the Dead doll is pretty but she had less than the Year of the Tiger doll and costs double, all for a stupid light up box, or their winter holiday doll that cost $40 for no noticeable reason.
>>11237010>The problem was that MGA overloaded the shelves with dolls all at onceNgl, I feel like every single fucking doll line does this and it's annoying as fuck. They completely oversaturate the market with an avalanche of dolls (lines that just repeat the same fucking character with slight variation with every line are even worse - you know the one I'm thinking of) and burn people out on the lines fast as fuckObviously can't speak for anyone else, but I feel like, personally, I'd be more inclined to actually try to collect more of the dolls if there were like a handfull released from the lines I'm into each year instead of like 20+
>>11236966MGA called us on our bluff. Adult collectors have been begging toy companies for years to cater to them over kids. One major point we kept telling these companies was that we had tons of money to spend because we didn't have kids. They found out we're have higher expectations for quality, pickier and cheaper than parents/kids. e.g. Autistic collectors returning dolls for doll paint that's a micrometer out of place / Expecting integrity level quality control on a $35 doll. lolol>>11237090I feel like toy companies kind of have to though? The lifespan of a doll line is shorter than it used to be because kids are cycling though toy trends faster and dropping toys at an earlier age in favour of console games and youtube etc. The toy industry is shrinking, so maybe they're put out more product in a shorter time span to compensate?MGA was taking advantage of the short-lived adult collector boom during covid lockdown to do what a business are supposed to do. Seek to find and capitalise on opportunities to maximise profit.Most adults are out of lockdown now and have money to spend on other shit, so there's no point in catering to us anymore.
So I live near a large Target and Walmart that get a lot of shoppers, and a lot of restocks of dolls and other toys. This is observations over several months:>the mini-sister RH dolls are selling well, along with the cheap single dolls>Ruby is the best selling slime doll after Amaya>the new Bratz dolls are flying off the shelves right now, but are being restocked well>almost all MH is shelfwarming save Fearbook>OMG sells erratically and then shelfwarms after initial surge in almost all linesI am interpreting the RH smaller dolls to mean people are strapped for cash and are buying those as an alternative, and this will cause the cheapening out of the RH line to continue.
>>11237171>The toy industry is shrinking, so maybe they're put out more product in a shorter time span to compensate?It's possible, but it just isn't good for the doll brands lifespan in the long run, if they were trying to maximize profit by remaining as relevant to the buyers as possible in an extremely short period of time, they failed to take into account that most people are broke as shit and can't afford that output, and it's no shock they're going to see a good chunk of dolls shelfwarming.
I don't think monster high is doing as good and may be fizzled out by 2026/27. They been doing three new character per year and we're already three years in at that point both g1 and g2 had multiple new characters.Their offering as been reduced to one core/refresh line, the annual theme line and skulltimate. All the multi pack, two pack, deluxe over $25 and budgets lines flopped. New character second release are skulltimate secrets plus they went from 5 character to three.Comparing katty and jinafire it's clear they prioritize either the doll body or the doll clothes. Plus it's clear they will never do unique bodies anymore and more likely to have character that use existing bodies with two or three unique parts.
>>11237462>people are broke as shit and can't afford that outputSeems like the reboot was the right answer, lower price point and less releases and it should have happened earlier. Idk, I feel like even if MGA slowed down on release, people still would've complained about the prices. I say that because I kept hearing from RH collectors though out G1 about how they didn't think these RH dolls were worth the price, they didn't for the most part consider the volume of product being released to be an issue. RH set themselves up badly by offering these really nice dolls for the price they did in series 1 line up which gave collectors super high expectations. Collectors often mentioned the price of every new release and compared it to the price of the initial releases as a baseline. MGA might have screwed themselves because now they look like price gougers when they actually needed to make RH profitable. Personally I've never heard a MH fan who were new to and bought a RH doll then complained about the prices and the quality of the doll. I want to make the point that I suspect collectors expectations may have been a factor in RH's downfall.
>>11238166I agree that complaints of the prices would definitely still exist, but giving people some breathing space to be able to save up and afford the dolls would at least lessen the criticism.
>>11238074What is their reason for not introducing g3 version characters more frequently anyway? I don't think it's a problem to reuse the same bodies, g1 just did slight variations of the sticc model body after all. So it's not like it would incur them much more costs to release a character with slight differences to the 3ish main body types they have.
>>11238405You're overestimating character sales.g3 is draculaura high.
>>11238757That mean the brand is stagnating, like how long til people are tired of ten new draculaura per years ?By this time g1 and g2 had a great mix of characters per line and by the end we would get full line of new character per movies.How are they going to argue new characters don't sell when they don't even try to mix them into the line ? If that all they can deliver that mean G3 already reached its peak.Next year they will probably release a subpar cupid but since she will have some kind of diversity people will close their eyes and praise her just like catty but at least there will be new draculauras.
>>11238166Complaining about the price will always happen, it's filtering the actual "we cannot afford this" to "ow my wallet, but I'm still buying it" noise. The problem is the internal metrics for how/what/why people buy after Covid are probably completely fucked up, combined with rampant inflation, it means things are being deeply mishandled on a management basis.MGA should have kept the quality, slowed down releases, increased prices. Offered lower-cost offerings (single dolls, etc) to elevate the higher cost dolls.
>>11238757I am so bored of this bitchPraying for them to do something - anything - interesting with her at all because even if I don't like G3, it deserves better than endless Draculaura releases that all look the fucking same
>>11238904I really like what they did with her last skulltimate secrets look, but I predict that's gonna be where she peaked as far as G3 Draculaura designs go
oof
>>11239076I want to say it's fake because i saw no one posting about it plus it's obliviously edited but she does match the red, pink and gold rumors netherless her design is too basic and more ever after than monster
>>11239076Cupid but they sucked out all of her personality
>>11239161That description was false apparently.https://x.com/seeingmount/status/1850229237690585121?s=46&t=v-aWYgPcZs4QbfB_t_n3NA
>>11239076If real, then,>"curvy">fro>ill fitted dress>atrociously over-reliant on pinkYeah...just shill out some extra cash and get the OG Cupid or make a custom, because what the hell is that? Did the designers brains work too hard designing Jinafire so this was the last exhaust cloud they farted out? God, I hope that's fake. It looks like Draculaura dressed as a clown.
>>11239249If so it definitaly fake and just an edit of draculaura plus i still saw no one else posting this.
>>11239076I wish g3 was more daring and edgy, I would've liked something like this Novi star doll minus the third eye, adding more bones elements to her design to match her ribcage wings. Or even something like River styxx prototype would've also worked, making the bones more subtle, also imagine it with a inner monster like translucent torso with a heart or butterfly inside
>>11239372Also while mentioning them, I think g3 jinafire body should have been something like this unreleased Novi star
>>11239372For real why did they NOT use pastel pink??? That would have been an EASY win. Because they're monsters they think all the colors have to be saturated?
>>11239076Looks fake to me beacuse the wings and the heart of the dress are front facing instead of being 3/4 like the rest of the doll.Are those wings just eah Cupid's wings?
>>11239610i believe its fake too but being a reused model from an older doll isn't a proof.G3 Jina's tail is based on G1 model. g1 claween's bag and frankie's shoes are reused from barbie or myscene
Creepros are live on Amazon!
>>11239331>just an edit of draculauraYeah, looks like parts of it is traced over this.
>>11220305Ray Barbie looks very beautiful
>>11222854>>11222873 Are all of them the same ? From the review i saw, it seems like some wear panty while other don't
Iam straight, but find Barbi to be very appealing toy, they're just so pretty to play with. Is this weird for a straight guy? Also, as a straight guy who mostly in the past collect action figure, i find fully articulate body type to be very fun and appealing, but i heard many older fans/doll collectors don't actually like the articulate body, but prefer the older limited movement barbie?
>>11240261no it is not unusual.a lot of straight men are in denial because of strict gender norms pushed into them since childhood.Enjoy your barbies.
>>11240261Nah man just enjoy what you enjoy. Most collectors I know prefer an articulated body, but all the best articulated bodies are modern style bodies which aren't the most stylish or fit old clothes very well, if at all, so a lot of fans prefer the older corset style body despite the lack of articulation
