It's only been 5 days so there's no real news to update - save that Mattel clarified they will be releasing the DC/Spin Master compatible toys in mid/late 2026 and their "adult collectibles" figures starting in 2027. So yes, we are stuck with re-use, poor/missing/minimal/no paint, side eyes, no accessories, etc., for another 14 or so months.Previous: >>11593657
>>11597546>Legion of Superheroes been done?McFarlane did two versions of Electric Lad but made the mistake that the chase version was the one from Bendis' short, unpopular run. They announced Cosmic Boy as an upcoming figure, allegedly in the next few months: https://www.instagram.com/p/DPpHjegEne8/I think that's it, so far; he won't really get much time to get a full team out and I'll stick to my DC Direct even if they articulate less.
>>11597745Havent they done starboy or is that coming soon?
>>11597737Take a look at what Mattel's DC Multiverse was releasing before McFarlane and you'll see all the complaints you listed besides side eye will still be there after they take over.
>>11597840nta but I'm cautiously optimistic judging by their Revelations stuff.
>>11597860I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. He-Man stuff tends to be an exception, and not the rule.
>>11597860We've been over this. Mattel OWNS He-Man so they can afford to do a really good job on those and no one tells them what to make. Revalations was pretty divisive with fans so the figures HAVE to be good to entice people to buy them. DC already has a huge fanbase so Mattel could shovel out crap knowing fans will still buy it.
>>11597868>we've been over this>doubles down on delusional assumptions
Even if Mattel makes garbage at least McFartlame won't have the license anymore.
>>11597937Ok, I'm doing some assuming but point out what makes no sense. Of course you're going to make the least amount of effort if you don't need to.
>>11597938Just because something is less bad doesn't make it good.
>>11597938This.
>>11597943Literally anything is better than putting up with Todd's bullshit.
>>11597941Nah, it isn't worth my time debating with delusional retards over things that won't be released until next year. We both know you'll spend the rest of the thread throwing a tantrum, I'm just letting you know nobody cares about your rants.
>>11597950You cared enough to post a pretty detailed response... Attack on my character rather than actually engaging with the argument. Guess I win then.
>>11597937It's not really an assumption when you can go out right now to the store and see non He-Man Mattel product isn't as good as the He-Man stuff. Look at Wrestling figures. They're, not great, at best.
>>11597737>A whole other year of low-effort, barebones, overpriced, artificial scarcity induced domestic figures>Import prices have gotten ridiculous, have wildly fluctuating tariffs, and most Japanese stores won't even ship except via DHL which has additional fees
>>11597951>makes assumptions about toys coming out in a year>gets offended when anons make assumptions about muh charactergot it you're just here to debate stupid shit
>>11597963How many more DC figures do you even need? Most of us are finishing out core teams and don't need duplicates.
>>11597964Hey, you're the one not familar with the ad hominem fallacy. And, as anon pointed out, it's an educated assumption based on evidence we already have.
Hi guys, life long extant fan here. Will i be able to easily order an extant figure today? If so where would i go to order an extant figure?
>>11597975>How many more DC figures do you even need?Honestly, I feel this way about every line I collect. How many more Goku and Vegeta figures do I need? How many more Spiderman and Wolverine figures can they possibly make? Optimus Prime, Megatron and Starscream have dozens of cheaper iterations to choose from. I already have my core DC teams, why do I need more Batmen and Supermen at this point. I honestly feel as if the toy market is going to implode pretty soon.
>>11597937He's right though. Mattel owns Heman so they don't need to factor in the licensing cost into the revenue from the line. With DC they do so DC figures will have lower budget allocation per figure than Heman
>>11597982Gamestop still has it for now, but maybe not for long
>>11598023No.
>>11598035You're not too good at this arguing thing, anon.
>>11598023>With DC they do so DC figures will have lower budget allocation per figure than HemanJust this fact alone makes me think the DC stuff won't be as good.
>>11598045>this factIt's just a delusional assumption he keeps repeating.
>>11598050If you've heard people on the corporate end of toy production talk you know that's exactly how it works. No corporation is going to take a profit hit to give you better dc toys.
>>11598053You've been screeching about the sky falling for hours and now you're talking about the corporate end of toy production. Mattel made a better pitch than anything Todd could offer so DC went with them. I'm not interested in any more of your insane mental gymnastics.
>>11598056NTA, but it isn't a wild assumption to believe that, like the rest of Mattel's product, that the DC stuff won't be quite as good as the He Man stuff. This is true for Jurassic Park, for Wrestling, it was true for LIghtyear. Sorry if that bothers you or upsets you or gets you mad, but it's a fair assumption to make based on the evidence provided.
>>11598050Mattel would have to pay DC licensing costs while they don't with He Man is a delusion?
>>11598056Are you one of those autistics that believe they're only arguing with one person at a time?
>>11597745 #Other way around. The real Lightning Las in his 80s costume was the chase figure and Nigger Bendis/Doomboot Lightning Las was the regular figure though both versions came with a regular alternative white Garth head (while only the Nigger Garth got one with removable face plates).No clue if Cosmic Boy will get a classic 80s variant.>>11597774 #We Got Star Boy but with a Devils Paw deal where it was the Kingdom Come/JSA full body zentai outfit with a face concealing hood and no unmasked head.As for any additional Legion figures, it's been joked that Todd could easily churn out Dawnstar and Wildfire; the Dark Star figure SCREAMED pre-tool version of Retro boot Wildfire while Dawnstar could easily be retooled from Hawkgirl. And that Todd could release them as a two pack to rush both of them out to fans
>>11597840>you'll see all the complaints you listedYes, Yes, Yes - Exactly.Mattel was replete with reuse where the character had the wrong boots, wrong wrist, or simply one emblem slapped right on top of the emblem being reused. SAME OLD SAME OLD.
Seriously, though, how did Todd even get a huge DC license to begin with?
>>11598071One two punch of New 52 (DC forced Mattel to switch to only making New 52 designs for retail and Mattel having to grovel to be allowed to release classic character designs as sub club only that they had in the works before the order came down) and the fact that Mattel killed all mass retail interest in the line via a series of waves that were a mix of Dark Knight Returns and a New 52 wave based on a story where Superman turned into Doomsday that resulted in stores swimming in hideous Super Doomsday, DKR Batman, and girl Robin figures. NO ONE WANTED....
my Swolecrow shipped
>>11598069Thanks for the more specific reply. I wasn't interested in either of those Lightening Lads since I knew it was going to be more of Todd's Fake Scarcity Nonsense. >could release them as a two pack to rush both of them outIf he has until next December, he's got no reason not to put out Saturn Girl but he will manage to fuck that up, and no one really considers those three as the core team among hardcore Legion fans.
>>11598070>Mattel was replete with reuse where the character had the wrong boots, wrong wrist, or simply one emblem slapped right on top of the emblem being reused.they literally do this now with their wwe toys
>>11598083Not amazon i take it
>>11598078Todd released a Dkr batman and robin. Didn't seem to cause issues.
>>11598114gameslop, they were the only one still taking preorders at the time. same on the BR Batman, which hasn’t shipped even though I saw the whole wave minus him at a Target last week
>>11598078So it's less a case of Todd doing something right and more DC/Mattel screwing up? And Mattel is now getting it back? And we're supoosed to be happy about it? Sounds like the problem is more WB/DC to be honest.>>11598112Yes, but unpainted sculpted details?
Man. They offer one day shipping on amazon.ca for pretty much all McFarts.
>just found Scarecrow at Walmart>got it opened>hand breaks offOh, okay. Guess I'll check another Walmart.
>>11598167But its more expensive isnt it?
>>11598293Don't bother.Most of first waves of figures are already discolored, have ripped diapers, or their joints have gotten brittle and snapped. All of his figures were made with such low quality materials that replacing them with Mattel's figures will be mandatory.
>>11598383Why do you lie? Some of the early figures didn't even have soft diapers, like Art of the Crime Batgirl. She had a hard diaper.
>>11598165>Yes, but unpainted sculpted details?yes
>>11598376I guess if you take exchange rate into account. Stuff is usually between $20-30CAD. Right now Deathstroke is $45 for some reason. Must be the algorithmic pricing.
>>11598389If you actually played with your toys instead of leaving them as statues for years you'd realize they're falling apart all over the place.
>>11598408How hard are you on your toys bro? I take my shit down every once in a while to take pics and stuff I've had for over a decade still is holding up just fine. Maybe you shouldn't be flinging your toys against a wall in some kind of tard rage. Just s thought.
>>11598408This. The early figures are so brittle they crumble during play sessions. The other day I picked up a Batman and he was covered in black jelly oozing out of his cape.
>>11598383>>11598431You realize no one is going to believe this without pics right?
>>11598408Every once in a while I find weird beetles inside the torsos of figures that must have been sealed inside at the factory.Imagine how many McFarlanes are out there with bugs in them and people don't even know.
my wave 1 figures are fine. my old mcfarlane halo figures are fine. meanwhile, my dcuc figures actually are discolored and were always in danger of breaking even when they were new. nobody here has toys.
>>11598478The way of all plastic. All plastic ages. As a human creation, it reflects its creators.
>>11598112>>11598390Let's see some examples, childrenAny shit posting monkey can type - but can they provide proof, too?
>>11598165>Yes, but unpainted sculpted details?A lot of figures do this. It's just more obvious on 7 inch stuff.
>>11597408>dying for pic related desuI'd also like that - which is why I chased down and purchased the cold cast statute. And it really wouldn't be hard to do as plenty of bad to so-so customs would point out, but Todd would find some way of fucking it up, like using a bad head sculpt like PICREL where Clark looked top old or have skinny arms, exactly like that overpriced tee-shirt version of Conner McFarlane pushed out.
Trying to make the figures out from the renders, but does anyone think Ice or Jessica Cruz will be any good? Impossible to really judge the face sculpts but maybe the bodies based on what parts theyre using?
>>11598521Nobody here buys McFarts anymore after the $60 Zatanna. We're just hanging out until Mattel announces something.
>>11598524what if Mattel goes 7" like masterverse but never releases an Ice though? Gotta get what you want while you can
>>11598548You don't have any other Ice figures?
>>11598548Mattel knows how to put out characters that aren't Batman.
>>115985677"
>>11598568whats with all these nonBatmen deep cuts Mcfarlane toys is putting out right now, anon? The Batman meme is from years ago
Top 3 McFarts. In your opinion.
>>11598585Desperation. Something Todd should've done in the first year he had the license. Not Death Metal, not gray platinum chase full case variants. Not Jokerized.
>>11598637the deep cuts probably sell about as much as a Death Metal character given no one knows who they are. It's basically the same except one might be Batman from Earth -44 and get some buyers due to it being vaguely Batman shaped
>>11598637I dunno if it's such a good idea to lead with deep cuts right out of the gate,
>>11598659Did you see the crap that came out immediately?
>>11598659>>11598661Imagine if McFarlane Toys' DC wave 1 line up was:NightmasterShining KnightAmbush BugDark Archer
>>11598661Wave 1? Yeh. Hellbat was cool and I really like that Harley Quinn. The Superman Unchained is neat in a goofy anime kinda way.
>>11598669It'd show he had an interest in making a real toy line. Not just a mixture of crap that never really turned into anything complete.
>>11598669Shining Knight was a cool figure but there were a lot of QC issues with her eyes on most figures.
>>11598633the entire returns wave
>>11598689>now expected january 2nd>now expected december 19th>now expected january 5th
>>11598685But the real question is...how many units would it sell?
>>11598686You could say she had...side eyebrow.
>>11598689I. Said. Three. :)
>>11598633Death Metal Batman, Silver Age Superman, Ghost-Maker
>>11598685Todd doesn't get to decide what to make though. Those were the flavor of the month.
>>11598633Fleischer Superman, Speeding Bullets Batman... and can't decide on a third.
>>11598731I will agree with this list.Power Girl is his best female figure.Brainiac is his best articulated and designed figure.Sandman is his coolest figure.
>>11598731Wait, Ghosts of Krypton Brainiac. That's interesting. I'm not even a big Superman fan.
how do we go about getting them from Todd in the next 14 months
>>11598851No idea why he made that Hush other than to give Rorshach a coat
>>11597737>Still no actually decent Static figure
Good bad news:Good: My Wal Mart FINALLY got in some new Multiverse figures after five months: Silver Age Batgirl, Hush Riddler, and Guardian. Bad news: I didn't have money when I first saw them earlier this week and when I went by this afternoon to pick them up, they had sold out of everyone but Guardian. Guardian is pretty plain save for his face as Todd managed to make Guardian look kind of sexy even with his face mostly hidden by his mask. He looked better than Hush Riddler, who was way more generic anime looking and not like the Jim Lee himbo version of Eddie that was perfectly captured ages ago in the DC Direct Hush Riddler figure.
So what Legion figures should Todd make besides Saturn Girl, Wildfire, and Dawnstar? >>Silver Age Star Boy (Purple/Yellow costume) >>Light Lass and Lightning Lass variant (Mike Grell costume)>>80s Timber Wold with fangs/white eyes human/wolf hybrid head and alternate normie himbo face>>Brainiac 5 (Silver Age evergreen version and a 5 Years Later variant with lab coat)>>Phantom Girl (SW6/Archieboot version) >>Mon-El>>Sunboy (80s version)
>>11598505the fact that you don't already know of mattel's half-assery just proves you don't actually care about toys
>>11598633Red Hood from the 2 pack with NightwingAzrael Curse of the White KnightOcean Master Page Punchers
thought i could pick 3 but couldn't leave out hellbat so you get 4. even still i feel like i want to change it to include azbats and more
>>11598919Long legs
>>11598906>asuka angrily calling for kairi in a yakuza voice
>>11598919Azbats1 has the unpainted claws, keeps it from greatness imo
I thought about it and ill pick my three favorite figures so far, not characters, just the figures. In no order-Firestorm/deathstormCyborg supermanCaptain carrotKnightfall batman gets a very high honorable mention, very nice figure
Dick Stroke
>>11599238Captain Carrot is actually far better than I was expecting. I might even get the glow in the dark version.
>>11598686What are the warrior guys with katanas?
>>11598521Todd's not done a good job on bodies for female figures, by and large. His Superwoman from the Crime Syndicate, for example, which was always done as a sexy villain character even in the most G rated toy versions previously released, came across like a late middle aged cougar mom who still thought she could sex up her son's junior high school friends by wearing a leotard. The penis bulge in the Classic McFart crotch diaper issue from his re-use, which however much Mattel reused bodies, was never a problem you saw. And, as others have often pointed out, the proportion issues - either the torso was off with the length of the arms, or the length of the legs were off for the rest of the torso/arms, etc. People don't talk about it, but he's also made as many face sculpt 'mistakes' with female head sculpts as he did with unmasked male sculpts in their entire DC line history. The real reason the problem isn't talked about more is that a good 40-45% of Todd's output has been Batman with a mask/cowl so people don't complain.But no one bought either of the two unmasked Rpatz's figures because it was a stupid design choice/decision to produce and because the muskrat eye head was useless otherwise.
>>11599343Thatd be pretty nice. I was glad i got the yellow/red costume otherwise id probably wouldve bought an extra. I think this was one of the few multiverse figures that had a broad appeal to toy collectors outside of dc fans.
>>11598892I'd like another Star Boy so I agree with that.For similar reasons, Brainiac 5, Sun Boy and Mon El. I'm not sure I would trust Todd to make a Phantom Girl or a Dream Girl that would satisfy most fans - there would be one or several issues with whatever he outputs. Also based on the designs for Cosmic Boy, for whatever reason he intends to push one of the alternate chase versions to be the Bendis Legion designs by Ryan Sook (who is a great artist and can do really sexy designs for male and female heroes, but shouldn't be allowed to create the character designs/models for a series ever again, based on this).
>>11599343He's one of the few figures worth the full price in the line. I even bought the variant.
The Cheetah reviews will tell you who is a shill and who is not
>>11598633Azrael Arkham Penguin Clayface
>>11599343Yeah I usually poo poo on ToddSlop but even i got Captain Carrot and think he turned out far better than I expected him to be.
>>11599379Elves from Lord of the Rings
>top 3 toddslop>everyone saying azbat>plastic cape>poor range even for toddslop>brittle af leg claw things>blue claws>no accessoriesdo you guys mean a different one?
So i had this weird brain idea, what if todd did a greatest hits type of deal for multiverse? That way some of us could get those hard to find figures like cyborg superman? Hes done three azraels all in diffrent colors and the origjnal still commands a high price so its not like releasing a power girl in a new box would really affect the scalper market right? Hes done a target and a walmart red tornado and once again the second hand prices are still high. Idk, just seems like it would be away to say thanks to those of us who have bought multiverse for a few years but it would be cheaper than creating new figures too right?Idk, what do you guys think?
>>11599585>everyone saying azbati'm the only person who picked azbat, didn't even include it in my top 3 or 4, and the only response to it was criticizing it. kill yourself.
>>11599593they need to do retro cards and it's insane that they haven't by now outside of spawn
>sperg out because no (You)you first faggot
>>11599625This general would be so much better if there were fewer anons in the world like him.
>>11599593MCF refuses to do exact reissues (besides the Ross deal for some reason which I guess is different they consider due to missing accessories). So while it'd be great if they did some reissues, I doubt they will without some changes like different deco unless its those really stripped down Ross versions, which I assume are only going to be lower value figures on the secondary market
>>11599593Sure, after years of hyping his toys as collectibles that'll never be reprinted, why not rerelease his artificially scarce figures just as a final 'fuck you' to collectors?
>>11599655are you genuinely retarded? you made up a scenario in your head to get mad about
>>11598739>BrainiacI am going to army build with at least 3 of the Ghost of Krypton 'soldier bots' but don't consider those to be "Brainiac." The Black version of those looks awful in hand, I ended up returning the one I was sent for the full refund. And the Injustice one doesn't interest me at all.>Power Girl>best female figure.Low Bar Is Low>>11598731>Fleischer SupermanGlad I bought it, it's better than many of his other Supes but I can't call it one of the best when the shield is just slapped on paint. It should have been sculpted. If Jaxx Pacific can sculpt the shield in the fucking back of the cape, McFarlane could certainly sculpt in the front where everyone would see it on the daily. >Speeding Bullets BatmanI do regret not buying this but not enough to chase it down and pay scalper prices on the secondary market>>11599343>>11599238>Captain CarrotThe only genuine regret I have; I thought it was going to peg warm or clearance and I should have just picked it up when I saw it at retail. But what can you do when a company's entire existence is based on Faux FOMO and False Scarcity production numbers.
>>11599738>I do regret not buying this but not enough to chase it down and pay scalper prices on the secondary marketIt's pretty great, honestly. I kinda wish it got a fabric cape version but I know that's not gonna happen.
>>11599593>its not like releasing a power girl in a new box would really affect the scalper market right?DC's license with Todd doesn't have a special "Protect The Scalpers" trigger where Todd gets fined an extra $10K for every figure he releases that will screw with Scalpers.All Todd has that keeps him from doing this, besides Stupid Business Sense, is this: >>11599666>hyping his toys
>>11599785All that motherfucker has left are scalpers. Do it, Todd. Reprint your rarest figures and fuck over the scalpers, too. Please do it.
>>11599785So if he does that anyways what does he have to fear? People don't buy his Spawn stuff?
>>11599790Or care about his artificial scarcity anymore because he'll just reprint it again. The only thing McFarlane Toys has is the bullshit hype and fear of missing out. He'll reprint with color variations or doll capes but if he just outright reprints a figure then the fantasy that keeps his company alive collapses.If he could afford to print more than 10,000 units of every figure he would, so the artificial scarcity is the illusion that makes him look sexy and sassy to larger companies he makes products for like WB.If he's reprinting because he couldn't meet market demand then WB starts flirting with other companies like Mattel. Under no circumstance can McFarlane Toys reprint or everything falls apart and companies will just move to Hasbro and Mattel with their franchises.
$70 Sigma Edition announcement Friday.
Look at this sad creature. He could've been a man, but they made him a monster.
Reminder there are two McFarlane Toys DCMVs. There is 2020-2022, and there is 2023-2026.With this coming year, there will be more majority bad years than majority good.The once glorious purpose, the artistic intent, is gone. And will never return.
>>11599794>WB starts flirting with other companies like Mattel.Um, anon...
>>11599803What's going on with his torso? He's like a skeleton wrapped in garbage bags from the abs down.
>>11599811what’s wrong with Arsenal?
>>11599811The line was shit from the start bro. Even when they were making figured from storylines no one liked.
>>11599811>Dark Knights Death Metal>glorious artistic intentthis general is so funny man
>>11599834Like it or not, McFarlane is an artist. Capullo is an artist. They may not make the kind of art you like but that's why art tastes vary.
>>11599811Tards are so triggered by that Batzarro but that pic only proves you can barely even notice the sculpted bat symbol.
>>11599837you make it sound like mcfarlane personally sculpted those figs, which I'm pretty sure he didn't
>>11599841He runs the company that paid for and approved those sculpts. He presents himself as the face of the company.People talk about Todd and McFarlane Toys interchangeably because that's how he positions himself.
>>11599841Capullo did draw those designs in the comic and McFarlane molded Capullo as an artist on Spawn
>>11599846More like: Capullo carried the book while Todd took credit for his work.
>>11599626>>11599663Thats kinda what i was thinking, new boxs or blisters and revisions of paint tone, like how blue a supermans costume is. Maybe pull out the accessories or face plates etc. Just make it a presentation of an older figure. Its been done before, and usually has the intended cash infusion and positive effect on the fans. >>115996669He has reprinted. Red tornado and azrael are used as a proof that the idra is being done.
>>11599852Incorrect, everyone knew Capullo once his art surpassed Todd's, but there is clear evolution of his art on the book. He did not come in with the same quality art as he started producing many issues later.
>>11599856No, Craig. You would have grown as an artist on your own. Todd was just there making money off your work.
>>11599842>People talk about Todd and McFarlane Toys interchangeably because that's how he positions himselfyeah this makes sense if you're 12. are you 12?
>>11599853>He has reprinted. Red tornado and azrael are used as a proof that the idra is being done.those are not reissues
>>11599868Well, a lot of people here seem to direct their hate for the company towards Todd personally. Are you 12?
>>11599868Jesus you big dumb aspie, it's easier to refer to the company as 'Todd' than typing out McFarlane Toys. Plus most info about toys is distributed through social media accounts where he personally promotes toys. In James Gunn's big merch video for WB he introduced Todd and it cut to him with a table of toys in his bedroom.You're literally the only person here struggling with this.
>>11599864You don't even know Capullo's first name, anon.
>>11599883Post your toys, Craig.
>>11599886Ok here's one.It's Greg btw.
>>11599789The one thing I really dislike about Todd's post-pandemic practices (2023- ), is that it does seem like (a) he's both uninterested and unconcerned even for the consumers who have supported DCMV and the other DC products he's pushed out since he go the license, and (b) that he so senselessly and stupidly engages in practices that harm his own business interest while they are also practices that spite not just those 'supporters' (who have diminished every year McFarlane has had the license) but also seem to spite DC. >>11599794>makes him look sexy and sassy to larger companies he makes productsThe problem with your fantasia fan fiction, Jarrett, is that the people who control the licenses for say Disney/Fox (in the case of McFarlane's Avatar merch) or Netflix (Witcher), and especially WB (Dune), is that they all know each other - know each other well, and are friendly with one another since many of them have been co-workers on the same project at some point in their careers. That McFarlane currently can make a certain set of small statutes of Marvel characters that aren't selling is meaningless. You don't see any other major entertainment conglomerate lining up to get into bed with Todd.
>>11599875so you're 12.
I found something really cool in my parents' attic today but you're all being really shitty right now so I'm not going to post it.
>>11599968>shitty right now>right nowYou might not be sharing anything in a long while if you're waiting for an improvement in demeanor from this general.
>>11599803>Fuck Todd McFarlane
>>11599891>yessir>baileys>im olde gregIve got an old cyber spawn in the box, box is turning to dust now but i keep in there
>>11599891Shit toy, Craig.
>>11600228It's big, just the way I likes 'em
>>11598906Kairi's a cool figure. Got it at Ollies for 12.99
>>11600256Ollie's is getting too expensive. No regular figure there should ever be over 9.99 and no Star Wars figure should be over 4.99
>>11600266Hal's diaper needs repainted to match the upper portion. And unfortunately it's dangerous to paint diapers due to cracking.
>>11600256Ive only seen pretty deadly and some other future endeavor bound wrestlers there. But its cool, i wanna sell my wrasslin figures anyway. >>11600270Everything has progressively gotten more expensive since covid reset the economy. And now weve got tarriffs just jacking the prices even further, i remember when it was cheaper to feed the family mcdonalds instead of cooking but the good times are well behind us now.
Ordered the new Zero Hour figure for the long hair sculpt. Would be cool if Mattel makes a Kryptonian Battlesuit with better articulation.
>>11600284Mattel does not use butterfly joints, toe hinges, ball pegs at the waist, or multidirectional wrist ball hinges with their Masterverse line. You tell me if they'll have "better" articulation.
>>11600289I just want to army build a bunch of cool ass giant robots with the Superman shield on it. The old ones are only like $30 on ebay right now...
>>11600291That's kind of a deep cut but more Superman adjacent than some of the weirder megafigs McFarlane have made. I am wondering why Todd never tried that as a megafig...
>>11600294Probably because the toy version looks the coolest and the comic version has an Imperial Aquila from 40k instead of an S on its chest. It's also missing the clear hood that flips up, which is kinda the whole thing that makes it sick.
Why doesn't Superman just leave a Kryptonian Battlesuit inside the Daily Planet globe for Lois and Jimmy to use?
>>11600306People might start to suspect something
>>11600306>>11600291>>11600284Will Mattel go back to sculpted symbols or will they be lazy prints like >>11600266
>>11600318Yeh, you guys think Mcfart is bad, who's to say Mattel just won't reissue all their old molds?
>>11600289What good is a ton of joints if they all have shitty range?
>>11600318Given we are in the most risk averse environment for toys possibly ever, I expect them to cut every corner, just like McFarlane Toys is doing now
>>11600331The waist ball joints aren't too bad on Mcfigs--they offer more than just Mattels waist swivels for sure, it's usually the upper ballpeg at the chest that cant go forward at all due to poor initial design of the internals of the figures. With the wrists+ankles it depends a lot on the figure. Some are near impossible to reach the joint due to an overlay so those have shit range. Others are pretty good there (although it looks weird if its not a ball and is one of those ugly sculpted jobs). The pseudo-butterflies are sometimes ok and sometimes add nothing, again, depending on the figure. The toe joints are usually fine although the figures are too heavy to use them without stands. Mcfigs tend to really heavily come down to individual figures--they have a standard set up but often there are a lot of per figure eccentricities that can make them shittier.So what you are missing about Mcfigs vs Mattel is actually that Mattel's advantage would not be in better range but in having boot cuts and thigh cuts. That is where Mattel could improve on articulation of Mcfigs. However there will be backsliding too. Like a lot of new masterverse females now have single jointed elbows--the new Eternia Evil Lyn, She-Ra, Teela. That is a bad sign as it means they are looking to cut corners vs the earlier masterverse that had doubles.So overall as long as Mattel follows masterverse, for Mattel DC vs McFarlane DC, I expect leg articulation to get a lot better, but arm articulation to get a lot worse and torso articulation to be a bit worse.
Funny how despite my efforts and time spent trying to track down the Gold Label Owlman when he came out I never found him, just to come across him yesterday at Vintage Stock for $12 used. Whatever. I'm just happy to have him. I love this look and he's a lotta fun to mess with. I only wish he had more splayed hands instead of the cupped ones, they're kinda awkward when posing.
>>11600347Holy shit, do you ever get told by close peers how much of an insufferable faggot you must be given how you're getting this much of a melty over articulation schemes? Single elbow joints are bad all of a sudden?
>>11600347So... what you're basically says is yes but no.
>>11600347There's nothing inherently WRONG with single joints. They often look cleaner.
>>11600359>Single elbow joints are bad all of a sudden?In domestics? Always were.>>11600363>There's nothing inherently WRONG with single joints. They often look cleaner.Unless you actually want the figure to be able to pull off a ton of poses which are only possible with greater range. Singles can work if they offer huge individual range like some imports do, but the masterverse ones do not. They offer a bit less than 90.
Todd has cancerMcfarlane having the line to the end of 2026 is a half truth. From what I understood mcfarlane DC multiverse ends with the supergirl movie. I don’t know if that means they continue to release 7inch figures under dc direct or just statues. Mattel is still on course to reveal at toyfair and release figures around July next year. 6 inch, wired capes, packed with accessories including guns and in the toy isle. $32-35 was the pricing I was told for the adult aimed line. The cheaper line will be styled and scaled like the 2000x heman figures. $20-25That’s all I know about “boys toys”
>>11600378So then you compensate with the shoulder or butterfly or whatever. Not everything needs a Spiderman pose. Double jointed limbs have more parts which means more potential points of failure or looseness over time and usually greater cost. Single jointed elbows and legs aren't a big deal because they strike a balance between functionality, durability, aesthetics and cost. For most collectors and casuals they provide enough articulation without overcomplicating the figure.
>>11600387Gamerverse wolverine is the perfect example of single joints working and being better than a double. Ultimately it is a case by situation and doesn't work when cookie cutter articulation is applied
>>11600378This looks like shit
>>11600389Yeh, then you get into a bst situation like that one Wolverine packed with Sabretooth. And I think that was a double joint.
>>11600389gamerverse wolverine elbow barely bends past 90
>>11600387Dude, being able to touch your lips isn't a Spider-Man pose and that Evil Lyn can't do it. I have her, I know. And there are no butterflies on Masterverse. You can't make up range that isn't there by 'compensating' with the shoulder.You are definitely not the type of 'collector' I would want deciding the articulation schemes for my figures. Double knees and elbows have been used for decades and are not 'overcomplicating' the figure, they are necessary on domestics to get decent range. Star Wars Black Series has removed double joints and has totally gone to shit in posability.
>>11600396So?
>>11600402so its not better than a double jointed elbow, wtf are saying so for?
>>11600403He thinks mediocre range is good
>>11600403It does everything I need it to
>>11600403>he needs sculpted symbols>he needs fifty million unnecessary joints>he doesn't even own toys
>>11600408>>11600411So, would you buy a single jointed Cyclops figure?
>>11600399Most Masterverse figures have a decent ball hinge shoulder so use full rotation to swing arms forward/backward, upward tilt to simulate arms raising across the chest, combine that with torso twist to make it look like the arm is reaching inward. Even if there's no butterfly joint, the torso joint (ab crunch or ball) and waist swivel can help. Twist the torso toward the reaching arm, giving the illusion that the shoulder is swinging forward. Lean the torso forward slightly to simulate the motion of the arm reaching inward. Also use wrist rotation and hinge. Use 3/4 views or angled front shots to hide lack of joint compression. You guys by and large don't know how to work creatively around limitations. That's why your poses look like shit.
>>11600403So how essential is a pose where a figure is touching their face?
>>11600415Show me a pic of her touching her lips. You can't.
>>11600386>Mattel is still on course to reveal at toyfair and release figures around July next year. 6 inch, wired capes, packed with accessoriesyou are fucking delusional and have no memory of Mattel DC because you’re a newfag casual and should leave>>11600387>Not everything needs a Spiderman posefuck off, no one asked you, you have no idea what I “need”
>>11600417You hate freedom. Buy statues.
>>11600415>Creating posing limitations for myself is fun for meWeird imo
>>11600421>>11600284>>11600291The future looks bright for DC!
>>11600418Hey, guess what I do if my figure can't do one super specific pose that the character is not even known to do often? I do another pose, I don't throw a hissy fit over it.
>>11600428I'll keep buying figures with double jointed elbows that can do a wider range of poses, thanks, including poses they are very known for.
>>11600426Have you never heard that "limitations breed creativity" thing?
Looks like the resident bitch about everything faggot has woke up. Guess no one else is willing to argue with him so he can here, to the magical land of (you)s.
>>11600431Doesn't work enough with action figures to be worth the limitations unless you mean inspiring me to find a way to customize the single jointed elbows to get 180.
>>11600413Probably not that’s why I said it’s a case by situation. I don’t believe a cyclops needs butterflies so I’d buy one without those. A character like spiderman should have everything though. I don’t believe a universal articulation scheme needs to be applied to a line.
>>11600424Those elbows look like shit and should be singles they should’ve also given him butterflies
>>11600433
>>11600430Looking at this I realized I would by a cyclops with single elbows.
>>11600431Creativity can only get you so far if you have a pose in your mind but the figure literally can't do or doesn't look as good doing a limited version of it.Also female arms are usually slender enough that they look fine when double jointed. It's often the male characters that if the joints aren't cut right they can look bad.
>>11600440I too would walk by a Cyclops with single jointed elbows.
>>11600430I'm serious. You're like those people that put a product through completely unrealistic abuse and then gets mad when it breaks, acting like it's the product's fault. Stop expecting high end performance from a budget/mid-range design. You want that, suck it up and pay a bit more. Those figures exist. Stop being so entitled.
>>11600441No female should be single jointed. We can all agree on that.
>>11600445HURHURHURH
One joint is enough for me if the sculpt is good. Any more than that is excessive.
>>11600435>customize the single jointed elbows to get 180.People that are sincerely that bothered by joint range do customize. Now's the part where you say "yeh, but I shouldn't have to". No, you can actually spend a little more on something to get better engineering.
>>11600446>You're like those people that put a product through completely unrealistic abuse and then gets mad when it breaksUh I've never broken a toy by putting it through abuse, anon, let alone any other product. I am very careful. Using both joints on a double jointed figure is not abuse.>Stop expecting high end performance from a budget/mid-range design. You want that, suck it up and pay a bit more. Those figures exist. Stop being so entitled.No, I don't think I will :)
>>11600453>No, I don't think I will :)No argument. Does that mean I win?
>>11600457No, it means these DCMV/Marvel Legends budget mid-range lines are already made for me and they are double jointed, so I don't have to buy the more expensive figures you're telling me to. I'm already getting what I want.
>>11600463You just complained about one Evil Lyn. You're clearly not.
>>11600465Nah I just pop the arms from this on her and it's fine. No need to buy a Mondo or whatever "high end" Evil Lyn you're thinking of
>>11600472So then what's the problem? :) Your limitation made you be more creative.It's not about a single figure with you. It's about how you can't seem to handle the concept of single joints as a concept. It's the "Sega vs. Nintendo" thing on the playground all over again. Kinda immature.
>>11600479>It's immature you want more range on your action figuresVery strange conclusion. Also I don't know if you're trying to imply reasonless tribalism with "Sega vs Nintendo", but there is a reason to prefer double jointed: range.
Okay this is an odd question but do any oldfags here remember a story about a Hulk plushie being made and recalled because under his shorts was a penis? Was this just some early internet rumor or something, did it actually happen?
>>11600486We're actually DC General. Hulk is a Disney character.
Comic Black AdamEat my shorts Jarret
>>11600490I actually meant to post a new thread entirely. Please forgive my sloppiness. I don't regularly tour /toy/ and this territory is unfamiliar to me.
>>11600501Marvel gen is the closest that might have an answer other than a new thread, but that seems like the licensor would go nuts on whoever made that if it happened.
>>11598907Why did I think this was a female body wearing a corset at first. Lol
> people making excuses for worse toys from mattel 14 months in advancetoyless losers
>>11600431have you never heard that "limitations stifle creativity" thing?
>>11600496>schizo screeching incoherent nonsense into the void
unpainted claws and all i still like azbats. i could paint them if i cared to anyway.
>>11600535Yeah I like him but the unpainted claws really bother me and I refuse to paint a figure that's probably going for triple digits on ebay by now
How do you feel about how well this Beast Boy holds up to either a Marvel Legends or a McFarlane?
>>11600539Looks like shit
>>11600538that's a you problem. it's your toy. paint it if it makes you like it more. i touch up plenty of figures but just don't care enough to do this one.
>>11600543I have customized, sometimes heavily, some McFarlanes, but they're all cheap or moderately valued ones. If Azbats was a $10 figure I'd paint the claws.
>>11600526No, actually.
>>11600549thats the whole argument against regulations in any industry >>11600548check out picrel. i don't think think it does much, unlike lobo which i absolutely had to add silver to for his spikes and such.
>>11600551Isn't that more like in terms of efficiency or something?
>>11600539lmaothis is your future >>11600386 you delusional retard
>>11600553no. the way those losers word it is "regulation stifles innovation," mostly so they can try and add slop fillers to your food or dump toxic waste into your drinking water.
>>11600554people will say these are old toys so they shouldn't count, but they're not far off from current mattel product, and these were subpar even when they came out.
>>11600556>"regulation stifles innovation"Oh, I have heard something like that, yeh.
>>11600554>>11600559At least it has a sculpted symbol. I just did a Target run and found a Riddler. I expect in ten years the industry will just be a bunch of smooth bucks with suits printed onto them, like Lego minifigs.
Come to think of it, this may not apply strictly to DC stuff, but what's the best recent innovation with action figures? That crossed arm thing as an add on piece?
>>11600562Riddler's main problem, aside from possibly being too buff, is the sculpted boot tops. He's actually really good aside from those things. The character IS a guy in spandex, I mean.
>>11600567No it's the green suit and bowler hat version. I haven't opened him yet, saving him for later tonight. My only complaint is the cane isn't solid gold, not a problem since I can repaint it.Another problem is I'm one step closer towards filling out a Batman villains shelf and feel the hunger for that black and white Two Face and a Mafex Bane. A lot of people like Bane as a gigantic hulking monster but I had this one shot as a kid and the Mafex is closer to these proportions.
>>11600554No. I’ve talked to the Mattel guys myself and have seen prototypes and renders. You’re a faggot and need to be banned.
>>11600556But is innovation technically the same thing as creativity? I would argue that it's not. Creativity is about thinking differently. Innovation is about doing differently. You can be creative without being innovative and you can innovate without having been the original creative mind.
>>11600576>trust me my dad works for Nintendo Faggot
>>11600576My guy at Mattel says they're using some crazy AI stuff to design the best figures ever.
>>11600565That's not really a new thing, Brak from the old Space Ghost line had that.
>>11600576my uncle works at Sega and says Dreamcast 2 will be announced in two weeks
>>11600578>>11600582I was laid off by mcfarlane and now work for another company :)
>>11600496>>11600576>>11600580>>11600582>you're not allowed to pretend you're an insider only I'm allowed to pretend I'm an insider
>>11600386I told you Todd's toys are toxic.I told all of you.
>>11600585>the jokers really were tainted This is why I’m not calling the “leaker” a liar. Fucking one in a million chance that a fucking week after he says a batch of figures were confirmed toxic that a whole shipment magically disappeared
>>11600589And I forgot the mention he also said they wouldn’t be coming out How long after did mcfarlane product get moved to electronics? Adult collectibles have different guidelines so maybe that was Walmart covering their ass
>>11600539The very few Mattel's I have from this era (boxed up versus blister, more varied head sculpts, and the connect to collect era) are fine. They don't have the paint problem that some of the older figures have but I've also been to stores that sell ten and twenty year old Spawn figures by Todd still in their new, factory sealed blister cards, that also have similar paint fade issues so I assume that's more of an age thing than a specific Mattel thing. These do tend to scale really small compared to even the DC Directs.
>>11600591But then why are they still in toys in Target?
>>11600595That figure is a lot younger (like 2010s) than old Spawn figures from the 90s. Also I've found a lot of Spawn stuff from the 90s that somehow doesn't have discoloration issues. Only found around 2 that were leaking plasticizer.Also found one from the 2000s that had a discolored blister and took a risk buying it but inside the figure was fine. It was however a figure that was fully painted staction era, which probably helps vs bare plastic when it comes to any discoloration.
>>11600615I think they’re supposed to be in the collector corner but the employees on put the collector edition back there because it literally says collector.
>>11600486It was actually the official Pepe The Frog Plushie and yes, he does have a penis.
>>11600630Planograms don't lie. Employees only follow the planograms. They don't get to decide on their own where to put stuff.
>>11600637You assume they care that much
>>11600638You must follow Planogram. As a store stocker, you will follow the Planogram, for the Planogram is all, the Planogram be all.
>>11600638Hey, I'd get my ass kicked if I didn't follow regulations like that.
>>11600642Nta but I used to be a retail manager and even with pictures added dumb fucks would still manage to shit up my isles
Why didn't Dr. Mid-nite get a wired cape?
>>11600617>Also I've found a lot of Spawn stuff from the 90s that somehow doesn't have discoloration issues. Only found around 2 that were leaking plasticizer.And I've bought first and second hand Mattel from the 2000s that has no paint and discoloration issues but opened up a McFarlane I purchased at Ross three months ago that literally smelled as if it has been sitting in a 5 gallon vat of turpentine. I left it outside (July) over night because I didn't want direct sun to hit, even setting my fucking alarm for 6 am to make sure I grabbed it and didn't sleep while it got fucked up. Honestly, it was a lot of effort for something that was just going to be a spare buck to me. It still reeks to this day. I've even tried wiping it off with a towel dipped in very diluted very mild dish soapy water and it also still feels greasy.>>11600591You can find both collector's edition and regular mcfarts in those collector's corner at Targets and vice versa or none at all. I don't think the employees care and the managers are either not told to make it an issue or don't care or don't prioritize it because they have bigger issues, like people stealing shaving cream and altoids.
>>11600654Well, I'll be... I apologize.
>>11600664Told you faggot
>>11600661Weird. Literally 0 modern McFarlanes have been like that for me. I wonder if it had something to do with being left outside or something on its journey to Ross
>>11600670Toddykins has a lot of explaining to do doesn't he.
>>11600654This just makes it weirder when characters don't get a wired cape. I mean, if Dr. Mid-nite can get one...
>>11600654Is he supposed to be a shorty?
>>11600678Power Girl is oversized. He is normal sized>>11600677Dr. Midnite doesn't have one--as a $35 CE. Despite other figures getting them still. There is no consistency.
>>11600386>packed with accessories>still $25-35That's how you know this is fake
>>11600684You can’t read lol
>>11600654Damn, I was thinking about hunting him down but that's a dealbreaker. I always said plastic capes are superior, now look at that shit.
>>11600654so is dr midnite 1/12?
>>11600606Ew. No thanks. Modern look is superior.
>>11600606Didn't they already do this?
>>11600708Different emblem and flesh neck
>>11600707>wants a half painted diaperYikes See>>11600266
>>11600707
>>11600706No, Power Girl is 1/9
why
>>11600733This one kinda slaps
>>11600740Literally me in my GL tshirt BAZINGA
Based
>>11600719>wants an outdated look on a figure he wasn't going to buy in the first placeBigger yikes
The Riddler and Lieutenant Ro Laren joined the detective agency today. They both recently moved to Metropolis after their home shelves became too full and will bring valuable skills to the team.
Meanwhile the elves from Rivendell and the forces of Camelot meet in Themyscira, where their mightiest warriors raise swords together and swear allegiance. The elves are not men but instead blessed of the Valar and thus their presence is allowed on paradise island.
>>11600907>>11600910Go start a blog dude. No one here cares for your terribly lit photos and ChatGPT tier writing. The retard with the NECA display can't pose, but at least his photos are well lit.
>>11600703Idk about plastic capes man. I think plastic capes hinder some figures, eradicator and hourman and year two batman would be better with cloth capes imo.
>>11600996He poses fine, you're just an autist
>>11600703He'd be fine if he had a wire to control the cape direction so it didn't look ridiculous and get bunched up at the top. Keeping the sewed up edges without the wire is a mistake, as it leads to the edges being too heavy and bunching/draping unnaturally. Power Girl's cape is actually too thick, especially given its so short, so she probably should've gotten a single piece of cloth. There is a Tim Drake Robin that has a wire but has a short cape that works well.
>>11600907There's a lot of inspiration in this pic
>>11601113No he doesn't. I mean, they're McFarts so I'm giving him some wiggle room but you guys have to stop posing like everything is 5poa. Especially torsos. Not one likes to bend torsos. Afraid to mess up diapers or...
>>11601160One must consider whether the pose one is going for needs to use the torso articulation. Also afaik, Sandman, Question and Riddler have no torso articulation that will stay to speak of due to the overlay always forcing it back. Not sure about Alfred. I know Jubilee is basically very limited as well.
>>11600907Have you considered hiring Hourman? He's a pretty good chemist, good for forensics and stuff.
>>11601166>One must consider whether the pose one is going for needs to use the torso articulation.I would argue that making use of all the joints available to you, even just slightly, makes a pose more naturalistic. We don't stand like robots unless we've been in the military or something.
>>11601093Hourman for sure should have gotten a plastic cape. He's kind of a hard sell.
>>11600907>>11600910cool stuff, anon
>>11601196Wired capes make hard sells easier. Everyone loves the wire.
>>11601230Thanks>>11601187I was thinking about getting him and Dr. Midnite but after seeing this shit >>11600654 I think I'll be fine without them.
>>11601196I mean wired... sorry, too early.
Failsafe is a $20 "mega" figure with a $30 reused stand.
>>11601300Also reuses legs and parts of the arms from Jokerbot. What a scam.
>>11600907But the Star Trek character isn't wearing a suit or jacket.>>11600996>having a meltdown because someone posted toysWhat in the actual fuck is wrong with you?
>>11601331>Telling someone there lighting is bad and that their gay little comment is AI tier is hab8ng a meltdownBitch please, you should see me when I have a melty.
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And please people, try not to cycle through a thread so quickly. There's more to life than shit posting or (you)-farming.Breath.Go outside.Go play on your patios with your toys.Even broken toys deserve love.
I just want an Absolute Batman before McF loses the license. That’s one design that I think McFarlane would do better than Mattel, especially if it gets the mega treatment. Probably won’t happen though, I’ll probably have to settle for some anime inspired m, off model import AB figure. I’d eat up a whole BAF wave if it was to build this guy
