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Joytoy Turtle Van/Party Wagon
Roadkill Rodney pack
Metalhead
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One:12 Casey Jones variant release
>Playmates and 4Kids create Fast Forward to allow a more toyetic season.>Ends up flopping and almost putting the franchise into another coma with the also toyetic BTTS line being canned.>Have to spend the next few years haphazardly using the 2007 movie brand and finally airing the lost sason that added to more humiliation given how the season had stuff that was obviously supposed to get toys IE good Shredder recolors, demon Shredder, demon Shredder's flunkies, and especially the dragon turtles until the Viacom buyout.
A decent amount of Toitle stuff in today's Daily Deal at BBTS.
Those BST AXN turtles are for giving to a nephew you don't like very much
Hey, where did the Casey Jones with the American flag on his mask come from?
>>11611786The US of A!
>>11611786Image era(technically started as a mirage book but shifted to Image), from the Bodycount miniseries Kevin eastman wrote with Simon Bisley that was basically a Heavy Metal TMNT story. Image ran with it and had Casey keep the mask(and gave Raph his old mask after his face got wrecked), and while the stories aren't canon to Mirage, it became a somewhat popular visual
>>11611752Neca stuff clearanced? I thought this never happens?
>>11611869Come on man, it's too early in the thread to summon him.
>>11611869Cool troll post, dipshit.
>>11611869No one has ever said that
Given how they're on sale on Amazon right now, should I bite the bullet and get all four of the S7 2K3 turtles?
>>11613321I've seen people get them for as low as $27, which is a much better price with how little you get with them. So, yes, if you can get them cheap, they're worth that at least.
>>11613321How deep of a discount? Sub $40 per turtle?
>>11613327$160 together
>>11613329It's not a bad price, if you really dig them then it's probably worth it.
>>11613338Don't they have issues like fucky joints and painting?
>>11613346The joints and intended paint apps on my set were fine, there's a clearance issue where their arms folded down can press into the should socet and cause some plastic rubbing.
Any chances of NECA doing Red Sky stuff? I'm getting S7's 2K3 stuff tomorrow and I'll get into NECA's 2K12 once we get versions who's alternate heads don't suck so I may as well balance with the 1987 versions but I want ones who won't cause some sort of "lol the 1987 show was silly and the turtles were complete goofballs who wouldn't shut up are we right?" shit.
>>11613510we got comin' out of their shellsnothing is impossible
>>11613510>I want ones who won't cause some sort of "lol the 1987 show was silly and the turtles were complete goofballs who wouldn't shut up are we right?" shit.why are you worried about what people will say when they see your turtle shelf
>>11613510>won't cause some sort of "lol the 1987 show was silly and the turtles were complete goofballs who wouldn't shut up are we right?" shit.Who do you hang out with that would even say something like that?
>>11613321They are in my opinion the best Super 7 figures yet, when it comes to articulation and feel.40 dollars each still seems a little high if you don't specifically have affinity for those versions though.
>>11613556>>11613558Meh, just feel it would look awkward if I end up displaying them with other versions due to their "bright" expressions and colors.
>>11613584oh you just wanna keep your serious and gritty figures separate. that's fair. shelf organization is important.>>11613579if they were a head or two taller than the regular S7 turtles, so I could do my own Turtles Forever, and if they were more playmatesy (veins etc) then I could be talked into it, but I don't like what they did with the sculpts, and they are the same height (thus thinner and visibly out of scale) with the normal turtles. I fear the same will be true of Shredder, the one I was considering.
Mona lisa will always have a special place in the heart of the fandom, moreso than venus de milo.
>>11613845I'd like to see it reimaginedi wish that was more of a trend. reimagine and reboot the shitty or flawed stuff.
>>11613912oh and they should start by hewing closer to the toys, which were NOT too shabby.
>>11613933I think people are just resistant to the idea of a fifth turtle in generalEven Slash only gets a pass because he's never depicted as having some innate connection to the main turtles, most of the time he's either specifically created by an outside party to be their enemy, or his origin has nothing to do with them and their resemblance is basically coincidental. Some versions go out of their way to make Slash look nothing like them. Either way he's never depicted as being some long-list evil brother of theirs.
>>11613943in general and in specific, for sure.>>11613933it makes sense for the sewer to have some other animals (after all, Splinter was there already), but not so much another random baby turtle that we have to shoehorn in as a dumb retcon.still, I think as a specifically just-for-fun thing, you could make it work. Give it the Lower Decks treatment where it enhances what worked but riffs on what didn't. but.. not the designs. make the art like the toys.give us a proper Dragon Lord and some minions that look like they had a budget. give us a Bonesteel who actually looks like he could be a rival for Casey Jones.
>>11613955and uhh.. .wasn't there a fucking gorilla mobster? maybe make him a yeti that runs a very primitive protection racket with a terrorized village by just eating them if they dont feed him regular food.
>>11613933Pretty sure her mutation was caused by a nuclear reactor incident unrelated to the ooze origin of the Turtles.
>>11614122actually anon means Mondo Gecko's origin, which is 'he was just over in the corner next to them, and got mutated too, but everyone forgot they used to be 4 turtles and a lizard'
Archie April just showed up in the mail.
>>11614539Yeah she's been shipping out
As I thought, the Page Punchers Shredder actually does scale pretty nicely with the Playmates 2012 turtles.
His scaling with the vintage 80s toys varies depending on the character, but still not terrible.
Style doesn't match the MM figures, but scales the same as 2012. MOTUxTMNT figures look good with it as long as the character is meant to be beefy in comparison. Looks close to BST AXN scale. It beats out the BST AXN version of IDW Shredder in terms of sculpt and paint. The bicep swivel is cut in such a way that the sculpt doesn't get messed up like the BST AXN and even though the knee is limited with only a single swivel-hinge, it also doesn't break up the sculpt the way BST AXN's double knee does.
>>11615075Hmm, now I'm wondering if the foot ninjas will scale well with the BST AXN IDW figures that I already have. The biggest holes in my collection are that they never got around to the foot ninjas, Splinter, April and Casey, and I was looking forward to getting four foot ninjas as army builders before the line got canceled. If they're the same height as Shredder due to McFarlane's lulzy scaling I might pick up four (I already have the BST AXN Shredder and he's the same height as a classified series GI Joe).
Is it true S7's 2K3 figures are made from some sort of plastic that deteriorates over time?
>>11615072Not bad, honestly. Thanks for posting this.
>>11615072That looks like crap. Doesn't work with them at all.
>>11615195They're covered in a very thin, squishy rubber overlay that damages and dries out pretty fast, yes.
Would using a hair-dryer or shock oil to loose the S7 2K3 figures be a good idea?
>>11615217Probably couldn't hurt, but generally the only joints I see freezing up on S7 have been knees. Usually a few firm but slow bends tens to free them up forever.
>>11615240What about their straps getting weakened? And how could I avoid putting to much pressure into them? I heard applying too much pressure causes them to possibly break.
>>11615245Their weapon belts? I haven't seen any reason why you could cause those to get strained, they already seem appropriately sized both with and without the weapons in them.
>>11615247I meant their elbow and knee pads.Also I meant the joints snapping due to pressure.
>>11615252>I meant their elbow and knee pads.Ah, yeah they seem fine. They don't look particularly stressed, and move without too much force so I wouldn't be worried about them. With pressure, it's always better to be conservative. You shouldn't have to force anything, just start out easy and very slowly increase it. Heat makes it less risky on bigger joints if you're impatient or if it feels REALLY stuck but I've only ever needed heat on a super 7 knee like, once. I did have to grease up Metalheads thigh rotation with some silicon lube but he was an absolute freak of QC failures.
>>11615072>he fell for the Page Punchers memeWhat a maroon
>>11615195They are simply too new for anyone to genuinely know. But it’s S7; they usually fuck things up when given the chance.
>>11615072only in the purest sense of height. he has a stylized lanky build that's relatively realistic, they are chunkified enough that one of their feet is as big as his entire abdomen. I'm afraid it just doesn't work>>11615073kinda same deal here, but less so>>11615075this.. almost works.
>>11615351That's the BST AXN Alopex.
>>11615240i've had frozen elbows in S7s too but that's it. elbows and knees.
Remember that one gang member NECA sold as a loot crate ultra exclusive figure, well here's you chance to rebuy the punk Turtles 2pack again to get your very own Scrag to finish off your gang. NECA shop only for that extra fun overpriced shipping and handling charge.
>>11615471The shipping isn't overpriced though... have you even been to the post office and tried to ship something like that?
>>11615571she kinda grew didn't she
>>11615588She did.
>>11615471YOU DIDN'T RETURN THE TURTLE LAIRS FUCK YOU WE'RE REISSUING EVERYTHING YOU CHERISH!
>>11615731>noooo stop making things available to people who are new to the line! It's not faaair!You whiny babies.
>>11615749You're not very bright.
Scrag is awesome
>>11615783You are really, really not very bright.
>>11615731Its nice that the rereleased Scrag, but locking him in with something that frequently sells for less than it's RRP on eBay is a bit shit. If they want us to buy shit they've already sold to us, could they at least pick things that people don't mind having duplicates of? I'd feel at lot less dirty if he came with some Foot Soldiers instead of meme figures that only came out a year ago.
>>11615972That wouldn't make any sense to come with foot soldiers.
>>11615975That would be perfect then, because it doesn't make sense for NECA to pack him in with something that sells for less than RRP and only came out a year ago. Doing things that don't make sense seems to be the current NECA business model. Does it make any sense for Casey Jones to be packed in with John Connor's minibke? Fuck no. Didn't stop NECA from doing it though.
>>11615981You can keep whining about "sells less than RRR" whatever the fuck, but it does make sense to pack them together like this. At least it's a proper theme. Yes, it makes sense to pack Casey with a dirtbike, because that's something Casey would ride. You're an idiot.
>>11615731Just use a P.O. box. Ezpz.
Is S7 really that retarded to not know what the fuck a ball joint is?
>>11616088I imagine they avoid ball joints to prevent loosening over time, the ball pegs allegedly remain tighter longer. I have a box of Beast Wars that are half plastic half floor polish because of early balljoint technology
>>11615954that's a damn fine photo>>11615972i hadnt thought of that. all repeats should be armybuilder guys
>>11615982>because that's something Casey would ride.No, Casey wouldn't ride a tiny little minibike. Which was why that set pegwarmed until it went on clearance.
>>11616429I meanlet's be real, Casey can't afford a real motorcycle. he owns a minibike and he's deeply ashamed of it, but there's no other way to get groceries for his mama
>>11616429You're a damn retard then. Casey Jones, a guy in dirty ass sweats and unwashed jean jacket would ride a dirtbike. Sorry your brain is so limited in the ability to be creative.
>>11616510No he doesn't
>>11616503He would ride a dirtbike for grown ups, not a Peewee 50.
>>11616520He'd right whatever he got his hands on.
>>11616524>Casey would ride whatever NECA lets him rideWe all know this is what you mean. If Super7 did something this cheap, you'd be saying how stupid it is.
>>11616531Free hands for punk whackin'
>>11616534Sorry, not everything is your brand war bullshit. Get out more.
>>11616542>Sorry, not everything is your brand war bullshitNo, it's your brand war bullshit. The only reason you are defending such a shitty half-baked product is because of the company that made it. I can be critical of Brian fucking up the hips of the Ultimates and Randy pulling cheap shit like the Casey with minibike because I don't have any loyalty to any company. I can criticize just about every company that has made TMNT figures for their shortcomings, from Playmates being cheap fucks with their paint apps to Mezco's ugly half-assed Toon Turtles. I don't worship one company and consider them beyond criticism, nor do I hold a grudge against any single company.But only one company will have some retarded nutjob defending it from criticism every single time.
>>11616512exactlythose fuckers are really expensive. real slovenly biker gangs ride shitty rice rockets. Only oldtimers with pensions can afford harleys.
>>11616540okay that I could actually seecasey just riding up on a unicycle at like 18mph, swinging a bat in each hand, yelling GOONGALA GOONGALA!
>>11616573Look at how mad you are over something that you made up in your head. Good lord.
>>11616586You're making things up again to serve whatever insanity you have going on in your head. How sad.
>>11615571Ftfy
>>11616747Good thing Slash didn't shoot her with the Giraffier.
>>11616747Troll
>>11616826That would be awful.
>>11616876Trying to explain to my friends why this image makes me laugh makes me sound like a maniac
>>11615418>he has a stylized lanky build that's relatively realistic, they are chunkified enough that one of their feet is as big as his entire abdomen.Considering the humans looked that way proportionately to the turtles in the 2012 toyline and animated series anyway, I think that argument is invalid. Most of Shredder's bulk in 2012 was his bladed armor pieces and his gigantic The Maxx style boots.
>>11616896For me it was explaining to my friends why this one made me laugh.
>>11616876Top kek
Who is the red mutant?
>>11616900I mean fair, but he did HAVE those, for that reason. the turtles didn't tend to fight a lot of regular-ass normal-proportion humans, right?it's one thing for friendly actions, it's another entirely for fights.
>>11617357That's the IDW version of Ninjara/Umeko.
>>11616903>>11616896Terminally online losers trying to force unfunny shit images on normal people.That was in the news recently, hmm.
>>11617424An autobiographical piece by yourself, I'm sure.
>>11617446Cringe post. You should stop talking.
>>11617454Talking about yourself again?
>>11617456You have so much brain rot that you can't follow a conversation, wow.
>>11617454>>11617470
The original cartoon has so many terrible characters. It looked like they had someone born in 1930 writing a bunch of scripts.
just sittin back and watchin the fire rise.
>>11617578That's impossible. I was told that they upgraded their computer system so this wouldn't happen again.
>>11617583Lol, it's real. https://www.reddit.com/r/NECATMNT/s/74uztBGbmuhttps://www.reddit.com/r/NECATMNT/s/xIiJ1iMbdo
>>11617611wow $20 is almost enough to buy nothing from every figure company today especially NECA.
>>11617615You sound poor
>>11617578how was the previous guy not firedalso apologies for assuming you lied.
>>11617578Fake and gay
>>11617615There will probably be a condition that the voucher can only be redeemed on select figures.>inb4 select figures are all Gargoyles overstock still marked at full price
>>11617623Literally not how that works. You really do have brain worms thinking that way.
>>11617625>You really do have brain worms thinking that way.True. I should lower my expectations even further. It would be retarded of me to give them the benefit of the doubt.
>>11617578https://youtu.be/eQeI2zZ1g-4?feature=shared
>>11617603Obviously, because the same mistake happened. Neca as a company and it's fandom are full of drooling, knuckle dragging retards.
(you) right now spamming replies:>>11617583>>11617587>>11617619
>>11617618He's probably a beardy retro-bro
>>11617618They put him in charge of Necanon wrangling, the worst punishment they can give.
>>11617655so he's not all bad
Train Shredder showed up. Any requests? I'll see what i can put together tomorrow.
>>11618386Do you have a toy-scale toy train set for him to conduct up someones ass?
>>11618398I do not, I was going to try and have April tied to some railroad tracks.
>>11618422Well, that works too. But it's not as funny as stuff up a butt
>>11618398okay that's kind of funnyshit, do they make them that small? for that matter, do they make roughly 1:10 trains for him to actually be in scale with? they'd be pretty huge. Lemme seeokay so they go as small as 1:220 scale, which by my thinking would indeed look like a toy to himand as large as.. wow, 1:5.5. that's insane. but there's also 1:8 and 1:11 standards, and the latter might be more ideal for shredder.>>11618422Oh that's cute.
>>11618587I'm sure some etsy seller makes them, there's doll scale stuff for a ton of shit
>>11618591indeed, but I feel like meta-toys get the shaft in that departmentyou have like, by far the most numerous is kitchen supplies, spatulas, plates, cups, etc.. then furniture is the second most numerous.. then stuff like books, magazines, .. by the time you get to like, scaled auto parts, jacks, repair equipment, it's nowhere to be found. and toy toys seem to be just above that level
>>11618396You first.
>>11618715It's all on you.
Why won't NECA release "default" versions of the Archie turtles?
>>11618817No it's all on sad little trolls like you that can't stop shitting up the thread with pointless bitching.
>>11618386You know, Kevin Nash was Super Shredder and he's famous for having a train run on him in the sweltering summer of 92. Small world.
>>11618386Decided to go with a holiday theme and found a train at Goodwill.
>>11619137
>>11619214when did we start celebrating christmas season right after halloween? this is a new phenomenon to me. christmas season begins right after thanksgiving.
>>11619274Blame retail for shoving it down our throats before Halloween even happens.
>>11619214That looks like crap. Doesn't work with them at all.
>>11619462You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
>>11619462You wouldn't get it.
>>11619462let him have his fun. it looks like a good time>>11619318fair enough!
>>11613321Price dropped some more
>>11620049If they were on sale like that up North I'd at least give one a try to see if I wanted more.
>>11620238Sounds like you still need to learn a lesson.
>>11611595>click link to watch old tmnt cartoon from the 90's>it's not even how i remember the episode from when i was a kid.>one week later the market is full of turtle toyswould the industry just die already?
>>11620251nobody learns shit anyway.
>>11620075Can't you buy from Amazon US in Canada? I'm in Australia and switch to Amazon US on my account all the time because some of the prices on Amazon AU are a fucking joke. Even with international postage, it still usually beats the shit out of the prices we get.
>>11613321>>11620049I almost bought them, but reviews show me how bulky they look. I don't remember that part about 2003
>>11619214kek. that is something they would do in a late season..>>11619274yeah I don't get it either. Basically Thanksgibbons is being ignoredI think it's because people don't DO much for thanksgiving anymore. nobody makes hand turkeys, nobody makes a centerpiece, maybe some wood davers made out of pimecones... they just go to house, eat, watch football. so there's just not products to promote or get hype about, beyond food.that said, I will absolutely get that thanksgiving lovers digiorno pizza if I see it.
>>11619498forgot your image, Bill>>11620049why is Donny still so expensive?>I hacked the database, you guys! Nobody likes this version of me because I'm not wacky enough>>11620253it's super likely you watched a version with a redone intro so they only have to pay royalties to the composer, not the performers. not sure if that's what you mean, but it threw me the fuck off trying to watch old episodes
>>11620562these are kinda both too bulky and too scrawny in some areas.. it doesn't really accomplish anything well to my mind. They really should have done playmates-styled 2k3 characters. Chunky, bulky, veiny, and in scale with the others so far
>>11621127>They really should have done playmates-styled 2k3 characters.Yeah, because they were getting along so fucking well with Playmates.
>>11621147playmates does not own playmates-styled figures.nothing they did in the 2k3 line is specifically theirs, except maybe the goofy modified turtles like the ones with football gear made of junk or... the ones with like random war paint on em
>>11621323>playmates does not own playmates-styled figures.>nothing they did in the 2k3 line is specifically theirsSure, but the fact that they never actually sued S7 for any trademark violation regarding the vintage line and that S7 initially had workarounds like "appeared on other merch" to get figures made tells me that Playmates don't exactly own anything from the vintage line either. They were just kicking up a stink with Nickelodeon execs about S7 impeding on their master license. So take a guess as to what would have happened if S7 had made Playmates styled figures.
>>11621358yeah but i meant- when I said own, I meant yknow, shorthand for this whole situation where they can raise a stinkthey really cannot raise a stink if someone happens to make something bulgy and veiny, with fun, creative accessories. I flat-out refuse to accept that, if they had tried that, there would have been pushback. Again especially since the 2k3 line really wasn't playmates styled (from the neck down, they were built as toys for the ungreenlit WB TMNT show from... 2000ish? hence the proportions)
>>11621420>they really cannot raise a stink if someone happens to make something bulgy and veinyAs the master license holder, they can kick up a stink about whatever they want. They kicked up a stink about NECA for years despite NECA's releases not even being close to anything they put out. I bet the reason those Chinese Lingjihun Turtles were pulled from BBTS was because they had a sook.
Looks like the 2012 Foot is going up for preorder tomorrow, everywhere.
surprised no one's been talking about these
>>11621886Looks like a high-school art project that got a B.
>>11621474then nothing super7 does can change that, and there's no reason to try
>>11621886>$176 for a pair of limited edition 6" vinyl toysThe vinyl market is really an exercise in getting retards to be paypigs for hipsters.
>>11622058man, you're kind of right. i actually cancelled my preorder because of this. what was i thinking? 200 bucks is insane for this.
>>11621934Confirmed fake fan. They are based on early concept art for the playmates figures and accurate to said drawings.
>>11622298oh holy shit, you're right. I fuckin forgot about that.. didn't bebop have some hilarious name like.. fuck, what was it. and he was an alien bounty hunter
>>11621886>>11622298Is their texture supposed to emulate prototype sketchlines, prototype plastic molds, or both?
>>11622307The sketch lines. Eastman and Laird had a very gritty looking art style.
>>11619214>>11619274I do have plans to make a Christmas display, Shredders just the first, wait til you see the plans for some of the other villains.
>>11621934>>11622298>>11622306>>11622307
>>11622606yeah!!
Mondo 1/6 scale Donatello. $250, goes up November 18th and will be up for 10 days.
>>11622867that's... really not bad.
>>11622867The realistic eyes jumpscared me for a second. This is a sweet looking figure, kinda huge but for that price it should be.
>>11622867Not into 1/6 but looks good.My favorite part of this are the reprogrammed mousers. Cute to see they put the vintage extra weapons in too.
>>11622938yeah kamas are really underrated. fuckin love mea kama, and it has to be this kind or something similar, because the boring just 90 degree angle hook mini sickle just... doesn't feel weapony.
>>11622606Seeing the pic makes me agree with >>11621934The art looks cool, but the figures look like a school art project that got a B. And I'd say the B was really generous. Whoever sculpted them needs more practice before they decide to charge people $200 for shit like this.
>>11622945Iunno that looks like a deserved B to me.The proportions are changed a bit to be more Playmates-like, but it fixed an error in the original where one bracer has concave squares instead of convex ones. unfortunately it also fixed what wasn't broken in the rotary saw weapon, so now- wait, the teeth trail away from the direction of rotation, right?
>>11622961>Iunno that looks like a deserved BYou can see Rocksteady's open eye in the concept sketch, and they've interpreted it as some weird squint. Also the scutes on Bebop's armor are completely disproportionate to the drawing.>where one bracer has concave squares instead of convex onesI never interpreted it like that, but I can see it now. I have a postcard someone sent me of Triton's fountain in Malta that seems to have an optical illusion where it does a weird inversion like that.>it also fixed what wasn't broken in the rotary saw weaponYeah.Like I said, a B was generous.
>>11623009are you sure we're not the ones interpreting it as a squint? it's really hard to tell from this angle.>bigger scutesgood point, but I think that's like how they have big hands and feet. it's playmates chunkification. Not to my liking, and one of the things that got me out of liking TMNT in the mid-90s, but still. I don't think they were aiming to hit the originals flawlessly, and missed.
>0Tales of the TMNT cancelled Bold move to make April fat and unfuckable. It's strange how allergic producers are to '87 April
>>11623061Dora's kinda cute>allergicthey are being specifically instructed to eradicate all redheads. if we ever get a white April again, she'll have dark hair and be ambiguously mediterranean
>>11623016>are you sure we're not the ones interpreting it as a squintI thought about that. I've circled what could be interpreted as the pupil on the figures and the eyes that I can see in the concept drawing. The issue is that what could be eyes on the figure are in a completely different spot to the drawing, and still look nothing like the artwork.
>>11623076oh yeah no, I can see that you're both right, wrong, and a little wrong again but understandable. see those folds in the area you circled are 100% lower eyelids, so the eye is here. it is tiny, squinty, and unpainted.
>>11623078in fact you can even see that dot you circled in the drawing, along with its neighbors, the converging V, and the long line to our right curling around to see his friends.
>>11623078>see those folds in the area you circled are 100% lower eyelidsThat's what I originally thought they were.>so the eye is here. it is tiny, squinty, and unpainted.Ok, I see it now. Thats still a pretty bad conversion from a 2D drawing into a 3D sculpt.
>>11623061Too bad we have to wait until 2027 for MM to be gone for good.
>>11623100agreed, I am changing my rating to B-minus>>11623105wonder what we'll get next. I'm prayin they go back to Laird and apologize.
>>11623061Huh. I guess that's why these two where canceled.
>>11623216As expected from Playmates.
>>11623242I mean, honestly, how much would Zorak with tits sell, realistically. >she also has eaten a male mantis and is USING HIS HEAD AS A FUCKING TROPHY
>"Mutant Mayhem saved the franchise!">Meanwhile barely any of the toys are selling, the basic turtles are still at Ollies, and the continuation show is getting canned.
>>11623216Playmates probably ain't happy about that. They lose ground when these projects fail. When Rise did as badly as it did, it really shook them up. I think that was part of why they got more protective of their shit (going after Super7 etc).
>>11623256Well it is still getting a sequel film, ain't it?
>>11623216>Zorak, what happened!?>Ehhhh y'know when you see an ad for a Tijuana doctor, and you're just like... on twenty tequilas, and you just wanna wake up somebody else?
>>11623248her CROTCH trophy
>>11623302Kek
>>11623320RIP to the both of them. miss them so.
>>11623216>>11623061This makes me happy. This is the worst TMNT, design wise. The idea of them being actual relatable teens is wholesome, but the designs ruined the franchise more for me than Rise ever did.
>>11623299Production halted, it's getting cancelled.
>>11622867I like the idea of Donny repurposing mousers, a series should do something with that.
>>11623591Rise was terrible on all fronts, from storytelling to character design and portryal. At least MM had some good storytelling, character building, and some solid action scenes in both the movie and the streaming series.
But you guys said Seth Rogen saved TMNT...
Guesses on how Playmates is going to stay afloat between Tales' cancellation and the 2027 MM sequel?Power Rangers is fucked without recent Sentai footage and merchandise to stay fresh and Monsterverse isn't as evergreen as Mattel's Jurassic license.
>>11623591teens are adults. you're meant to inspire to a better future, not relate to the present.
>>11623924>without recent sentai footagei thought power rangers simply quit using it, not that it ran out
>>11623991Exactly; Hasbro telling Toei to eat shit is what killed the franchise.Nobody care about outdated shit like Zyuranger.
>>11623992I mean, that's almost entirely what people care about, but I get what you mean. The confusing part was your use of 'recent' which I now realize you mean "they are still milking the old shows, but not using the new ones anymore"they're not 'fucked without recent footage' because recent footage is right there for the taking, they're ... fucked with terrible executives who need to be institutionalized.
>>11623591Thought we where talking about the Seth Rogen turtles?>>11623633I saw recently it was still green lit?
>>11624015Anon is, rather confusingly, talking about the most recent, garbagey turtles, while saying that the designs ruined the franchise -even more- than Rise did, and then he attached a picture from Rise
>>116240562012 and 2003 really set the bar high, huh?
>>11623924Vintage Turtles reissues.It's free real estate.
>>11624071more like 2012 actually looks good compared to this garbage
>>11623924Monsterverse still does well.
>>11623061>let's gatekeep the franchise show by requiring a subcription to our shitty streaming service in order to watch ityea, that's the way to go paramount, no one is subbing to p+, just put it on youtube where millions of kids have access to it.
>>11624210I don't see as much shit as the Jurassic stuff though.
>>11624215Maybe when Supernova comes out.And hey, we have the Kaiju Rangers coming too.
>>11624213with a total inability to save the videos for later...
>>11624199I've actually been rewatching it. It's a lot of fun, and I got the whole series on DVD for like, 25 dollars.
>>11624307fun is right. if you want substance, ehh maybe somewhere else.Well, i'm told it gets better later, particularly surrounding splinterpersonally I just can't stand the art, but it's not like it was slapped-together garbage. they WANTED it to look like that.
>>11624335Splinter's one of the best characters ever.>Can be super serious. The Rat King episodes and the ones where he actually helps out against Shredder are top notchBut he can also be a funny fucker too. A particular line exchange between him and April sticks in my head.>"If we get separated in the Krang HQ, we'll be like...like...LIKE RATS IN A MAZE! ...Oh, sorry Sensei.">"No no, I do enjoy a good maze."
>>11624338yeah if they had kept the balance of serious and funny for everyone like they did him, it could have been a very watchable show, with merely hideous artbut naw. it was exactly what Nick set out to make. Mindless pablum for toddlers.
>>11624340Nah, 2012 had a decent mix. Only downside is too much Mikey. Like, holy shit, not only can his VA do one voice (one octave different from Beast Boy), but he gets too many attempts to be funny.
>>11624341There was also the problem of making Mikey just straight up retarded. Instead of being the goofball they made him the obnoxious little brother that can't follow basic instructions and so many episodes revolve around some incident caused by his inability to not do the dumbest possible thing he can think of.
>>11624364YES! Exactly! It was charming the first season, but he refuses to fucking grow.
>>11624364You just have shit opinions.
>>11624382It'd be fucking amazing if Mikey used his mistakes to grow as a character, becoming a goofball but more serious. But they refused to change him even a little bit. Even if there was a lesson he could learn he ignored it to make an 'LOL SO RANDUM' joke about laser squirrels or pizza fairies
>>11624399No reason to change what works for the character.
>>11624341they made mikey a drooling fucking retard2003 mikey was already the worst part of the show, being an insanely overconfident frat boy, but 2012 mikey needs to be in assisted living.
>>11624400it doesn't work. why would teenagers raised in ninjutsu for so many years have one who's an idiot?in their PROPER personalities, mike is quite possibly the brightest one. The artist, the guy who sees things differently from others and pieces solutions together. The guy who's so fucking bored because his brain is so active, that he can't stand anything dull like practicing, or dull serious speeches, and has to goof off and crack wise to give his brain some more dopamine to keep going. I guess I shouldn't be surprised no adaptation gets this, but if they need help, and I've said it before, think Egoraptor.
>>11624403But it does work. Why would you assume he can't be an "idiot" but still have talents with ninjutsu? You're bitching about shit that doesn't matter. You're a fool.
>>11624364>so many episodes revolve around some incident caused by his inability to not do the dumbest possible thing he can think of.It was even more unforgivable when Donnie would do the dumbest shit possible to endanger everyone.
>>11624405try going into martial arts sometimeI realize you won't relate because you don't have a father, but if you get a sensei, you might understand.
>>11624400It worked for Cheetor in Beast Wars, it could have worked for Mikey in 2012.
>>11624260do you not know how to save kids video on youtube anon? copy the video title, paste it in search, hit search, highlight it on the list and the save feature is right there.
>IDW gets the Street Sharks>The second fucking issue. SECOND. FUCKING. ISSUE.>They introduce a girl fish to be part of the brother's dynamic.Thanks IDW. Is this how you all felt about Jennika?
>>11624547u wothang on,jesus shite, it works. what the FUCKwhy doesn't it just work normally then?
>>11615188I think Foot Soldier and Shredder share the same body. I dont know how much taller BST AXN Shredder is compared to the turtles but i think McFarlanes Shredder is a smidge shorter than the BST AXN.Id be interested in seeing how McF Shredder fits in with the new remastered turtles. If it fits as well as the 2012 it might be a decent stand in for the multi pack Playmates version.
>>11623924Theyll coast on Season 2 Tales for the entirety of next year.They can pepper remastered single reissues along with Rocksteady and even MORE reissues to get them to 2027 when/if that sequel manages to come out.
>>11624585She not even thicc. Fuck IDW woke trash.
>>11624585Calm down, these stories are all done in one like the show. She'll never be seen again.
For context,>Pranhoid gene slams a circus as part of his latest scheme>the Sharks stop him>the circus employees decide to embrace it and take the show on the road, never to be seen againAnd thats even assuming the comic goes past these first five issues.
>>11624585surely the idea is 'hey while we're in a comic about mutations, we'll see a new one appear who's kind of like the turtles (generic rounded face and humanoid body) but kinda like the street sharks (a fish)'like in Turtles Forever when the serious 2003 shredder used the insanely powerful toonforce-tier energy of the 1987 mutagen to deliberately make a bunch of monsters>>11624682oh so it's not mutagen. missed opportunity. she doesn't look like one of Piranoid's gene-slamming victims at all.
>>11624683None of them do really. He went with whatever worked for their acts (thats the trapeze artist, the strongman became an elephant fish, the ringmaster was named mister Tusks so he became a walrus, etc). He promised it would save them from bankruptcy, then rigged the stands to emit gene-slamming gas from under the seats.
>>11624687sad. because those all sound like they'd make awesome street sharks villains if they actually had the design and build they should.
>>11624690Indeed. The line was seriously lacking in villains.
>>11624694but all of them super memorable. yeah more would have been nice. give us a buncha kaiju. i wonder who designed them
>>11624816Because the writer for IDW TMNT after issue #100 was a trannie that shoehorned it's barely disguised fetish and personal politics into the comic until someone else took over to right the ship.Also, CHAZ was in Seattle. I don't think Portland was lucky enough to have that, so they just got mostly peaceful arson attacks instead.
>IDW's Street Sharks>Oni Press' Biker Mice from Mars and COW Boys of Moo Mesa>If you count them, there's going to be a new Swat Kats comic already funded by the fansFind it interesting that all these animal hero teams are coming back when the series they're ripping off (*Kinda* with Swat Kats) is in a rut right now.
>>11624940Apart from Biker Mice, none of these other franchises has ever had a revival while TMNT reinvents itself every few years without ever really going away for long. >If you count them, there's going to be a new Swat Kats comic already funded by the fansThe Swat Kats revival has been in development for a decade with the creators pushing to get a studio to pick up the show again. Biker Mice has been in development since 2023. Mattel have realised Street Sharks still has an audience after the 30th anniversary, but are still giant faggots that won't release waves 3 and 4 of the 30th figures despite the main characters selling out everywhere. I don't know enough about what's happening with Moo Mesa to comment on what's been happening with it.Also, all these old series have people behind them that want to please fans of the original show. Nickelodeon couldn't give a fuck about TMNT fans, they only care about the line on the graph going up, but they are too out of touch to figure out why the line won't go up.
>>11624962Shut the fuck up. You are a cancer to this board.
>>11624971I think you've had enough internet.
>>11624816sh>>11624946it's okay to care about the line on the graph going up, but under their watch, it goes down
>Rise attempts to do something new with the turtles by having them be ADD-ridden spazes, black April, deadbeat Splinter, and Shredder absent most of the time in favor of a shitty new OC.>Show flops, toys don't sell, and is swiftly canned.>MM/Tales attempts to do something new with the turtles by having them be ADD-ridden spazes (Who also attend school for some reason), black (And now fat) April, deadbeat Splinter, and Shredder absent most of the time in favor of a shitty new OC.>Show flops, toys don't sell, and is swiftly cancelledI'm starting to notice a pattern here......
>>11625223this has been going on for a long time. i don't get why people discuss it as if it's this mysterious and complex thingit's very simple:in the 20th century, you made good decisions, and they made money.in the 21st century, you cater to a tiny minority and destroy your business, then get a golden parachute and perhaps repeat at a new business if you want
>>11611606damn I bought the original Mezco release, this Casey Jones includes more accesories, better colors and same price.
>>11625223>>Show flops, toys don't sell, and is swiftly cancelledthats because of a merger>>11623061the movie sequel will move on
>>11624940And DiscoTek released a BluRay of Extreme Dinosaurs, if that's worth mentioning.
>>11625223MM Splinter wasn't a deadbeat dad. He was an overprotective parent. Shitty O.C. was pretty much Baxter Fly with extra steps. Shredder is revealed at the end to set up a sequel, which makes sense because even Eastman and Laird vocalized regret in how they killed off Shredder in what they expected to be a one-off comic.
So my local Walmart dumped the pile of unsold Blue Bellybombs and Shredd/Krangs onto the discount section for $10 each. Picked up Shredder/Krang and had some problems with it: the figure came apart at the torso upon removal from the plastic tray! Good news, it was a connect port but to get it to reconnect, I had to remove the loincloth piece. Was able to successfully reconnect it though and to be frank, the figure looks decent without the plastic loincloth. He's my very first non-OG Playmates Shredder and is a cool character, even with the crappy shading issues. And the Krang figure is also cool mini-figure wise.
>>11625671My biggest gripe against NECA is sometimes, pins that should be in sockets aren't in them. My Demona has one of her ankle pins outside of the thing that houses them. Even dunking her leg in boiling water and trying to force it in didn't help.
>>11625743yep I've had that happen to varying degrees of problemness. None ever ruined it, but I do have some limbs that can just come off of their joints if you pull hard.. and i've SEEN pictures of much worse ones.
>>11625743It has nothing do with NECA, it happens with any pinned figure, and all you have to do is heat it up and push it through. It's no big deal. >>11625671Heat up the torso and pop it back on the waist peg, it's for the waist swivel. That's all.
>>11625884Been trying that. I'm afraid I might break the plastic loop with how far I stretch it and it still won't go in. Figured I'd just display Demona, not mess with her or pose her anymore.
When is NECA gonna do figures of these?
>>11626186They'd need to change them to a toon or movie aesthetic like they did with the UM Turtles otherwise Playmates will run to mommy Nickelodeon and cry about how mean big brother NECA won't let them have a turn on the Nintendo.
>>11626316Still never seen evidence of this despite you saying it so constantly.
>>11626355Can you explain why the last couple of waves of Super7 Ultimates prior to the 2k3 line deviated so drastically from the vintage designs? Why would Super7 willingly kill the goose that lays the golden eggs?
>>11626377Can you provide proof of this at all?
>>11626403Yes, here is proof that the Super7 Ultimates line deviated drastically from the vintage designs.
>>11626432Huh. That is weird, actually. Are you sure those are meant to be the '03 designs in the first place? Only one that looks like it was meant to be 03 is Karai.
>>11626449anon was saying PRIOR to 2k3 line
>>11626457Ooooh. Yeah that seems like some fuckery was happening, but it's also Super7, they're weird sometimes.
>>11626463it's clear that they were not completely disallowed to do classic toys, they just had loopholes, and those changed over time and they eventually gave up. can't blame them, but I would have kept going and just said fuck playmates. What happened to doing the rest of the punk frogs? maybe you can't get Napoleon but you could do the other two, total originals, who could whine?
I got this not leatherhead today. He's a heavy one.
>>11626545>Guys, he took April!>Who?>Not Leatherhead!>Well great that it's not Leatherhead, but who took her?>I just told you, Not Leatherhead!>Yeah you told me it wasn't him, but who was it?>Are you deaf? It was Not Leatherhead!>What is your problem? You were the one who brought him up! Just tell me who took April!>NOT LEATHERHEAD!
>>11626581>Donnie, who's on first?
This seem about right with the copyright of certain characters?
>>11626636is paramount not owned wholly by viacom?
>>11626653I completely forgot how to spell viacom when making that image.
>>11626668fair, but uh, so the thing about that is, viacom owns the entire franchise now, unless i've been lied toyou might have pointed out a few things they didn't get, but having a section for viacom on the right is silly because it's literally 'everything else' including all of 1987 (hence that not having representation on your chart)
>>11626636I don't think 4kids owns anything. Or Playmates for that matter. Honestly, the only ones that would probably be off limits for Paramount without an agreement would be the Saban characters, and a couple from the vintage era like Usagi and Panda Khan, and a few Mirage characters Bloodsucker, Cerebus, and there was one or two more Mirage characters that escape me whose creator held onto the rights.>>11626653>>11626669You got it backwards. Viacom is owned by Paramount. Viacom no longer exists. I don't know why people keep bringing up Viacom. They haven't existed for over half a decade.
>>11626636Ok, I was curious about those later Playmates characters, so I did some wiki reading, and these are the appearances they made (or almost made) outside the toyline, if any.Halfcourt: background of Shredders Revenge DLC, and an unnamed mutant giraffe basketballer that homages the character appears in an episode of Rise.Monty Moose: relatively large role in IDW comic.Walkabout: toy onlyScale Tail: almost appeared in both TMNT 3 on Gameboy and Mutant Mayhem, but was cut during development both times. Appeared in issue 2 of Black, White, and Green comic.Hot Spot: toy onlyKiller Bee: toy onlyNeedle nose: several minor background appearances in IDW comic.
>>11626669I just don't think Viacom is willing to deal with Saban/Hasbro. They own everything from the Next Mutation, that's why IDW went through some hoops to make a new version of Venus.Dunno on their stance dealing with Konami.
>>11626739because viacom ran nickelodeon, MTV, etc. paramount ran star trek and until pretty recently nobody ever paid attention to that, since star trek ran on whatever channel it felt like. so to us, viacom is the big one. Nick/MTV are the big names. Paramount is whatever.
>>11626904>unwilling to deal withso does that mean you think they own it or not? because you said you think they own it, but then 'dealing with them' is irrelevant. and you said there were hoops to jump through with venus, suggesting- unless you're trying to say Paramount (see anon I picked it up) is the ones telling IDW what they're allowed to use and might be doing so with stinginess that Saban wouldn't?
>>11627076Pretty sure they couldn't use the Venus they way they wanted so they turned her into a Punk frog that got frankensteined into a turtle.
>>11627090hm. possible. i wish things like this were more transparent.
>>11627074>viacom is the big one.>Paramount is whatever.This is weird to hear. Paramount is one of the big 5 movie studios (formerly big 7 until MGM and 20th Century Fox were consumed) and they existed almost half a century before Viacom. Half the movies I watched as a kid had that damned mountain logo. Paramount were always bigger to me.>>11627076>Paramount (see anon I picked it up)Thank you. I normally contained my autism when it was mentioned in the past, but seeing someone says Viacom owns Paramount made me fetch my fidget spinner while I work on my Sonic OC donutsteel artwork.
>>11626636If 4kids made them the rights automatically went to Mirage, and then by extension Viacom.And for what its worth, Monty Moose is in IDW.
Now that I think about it, all the toy characters were designed by Mirage staff, so by extension they should have gone to Viacom too.
>>11627203yeah but who the fuck ever thinks about MGM or paramount or uhhhh Tristar? like people who call movies "Films" maybe. for the lay person, it's fox, disney, viacom, warner, and NBC. these are the people behind franchises we actually like.
>>11627213not necessarily, only if they also bought the entirety of playmates's rights. you can design something FOR another company and they at least partly own itbut I do believe that is the case, and they did buy those rights.
>>11627213I mean the Mirage staff designed Venus, Bonesteel and Dragon Lord, yet Saban still owns them.
>>11627213>all the toy characters were designed by Mirage staffI thought Varner Studios designed the characters, but they were contracted by Mirage.>>11627236>yeah but who the fuck ever thinks about MGM or paramountMGM are the ones with the lion logo that turns into Tom at the start of Tom and Jerry cartoons. Paramount are the ones with the mountain logo. Tristar had the Pegasus. Same as the 20th Century Fox logo with the drumroll and the horns opening for Star Wars. This shit was memorable because they were associated with memorable movies.The funny thing is I can remember the "Viacom" voice at the end of their shows, but I would struggle to actually name 10 things they made.>NBCWhat worthy franchises did NBC make? Cheers and Frasier? Seinfeld? Do they make anything else that isn't aimed at housewives or milquetoast motherfuckers that think Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers are peak comedy?
>>11627422Cheers, Frasier, Seinfeld, and SNL yeah. to me those are bigger than anything MGM ever made. Tom and Jerry feels so ancient, even by Looney Tunes standards.I guess I'm just more a TV guy than movie guy. so it's probably just me.
Oh shit, NECA started the 2012 line?
>>11628201Yes, the 4 turts and Shredder are out.
>>11628218Any words if they're gonna keep going? I'd love if they did the Turducken Chimera or NOT April's Mom.
>>11628238They showed off Tigerclaw at NYCC and had a sneak preview hinting at Slash earlier in the year, so they will probably go pretty far. Chimera is a pretty big guy and would be pretty expensive, but April's clone mom seems more likely eventually.
>>11628201Yeah, they're in Targets now.
>TMNT X Godzilla>Not TMNT X Gamera despite the latter being a turtle>Not to mention is usually much more heroic than Godzilla.
>>11628385Playmates doesn’t have Gamera
>>11628307I've been re-watching the series, there's so many fun versions of characters they can do. Rahzar, Pigeon Pete, Napolean Bonafrog, Kraang Irma Mech.>>11628486They either got in trouble for using old kaiju they don't have the license for/didn't pay for, or scrapped the classic Godzilla line because they thought it'd fail. Also, the comic is IDW, who bought the license to use a lot of classic kaiju.
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