Previous two:>>11601585>>11601459Recent releases out now:>Joe/Cobra divers 2-pack>Steeler/Short Fuze 2-pack>police officerThe apparent only release for the rest of the year and first two months of 2026:>BAT (retro-card cartoon colors)Coming in April:>Big Lob>Cobra-La Royal Guard>Lifeline>Night Viper>Hit-n-Run>Mole Rat (v.2)Coming in March or April:>Female Crimson Guard>Zap>Crazy LegsUnknown 2026 release dates:>Zanya>Ninja Force Zartan>Hydro-Viper>Taurus and Red Dog 2-pack>HISS (arctic version)Reaction+ rumor wave:>Mara>red-glow Snake Eyes>Cobra Commander with cape>Acrtic Scarlett>G.I. Joe A Real American Hero:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM0FaPp2oenPi6zQOTBUCRoYnjhp0eEKQ>G.I. Joe Renegades:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9iSDGvA4UNCGK-QiRUoxNHPun1PAIXON>G.I. Joe Spy Troops (PAL version, ripped and edited by a very kind Aussie Anon/Spy Troops anon):https://mega.nz/folder/UbgRhCQA#9MNOu25I6Rqv0BlaSUj8XA>GI Joe movie intro since they're making a lot of stuff from it lately:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ah2I166f_U [Embed] [Open]
>>11622444Are BATs considered handicapped and do they get to enjoy welfare benefits?
>>11622478They're fodder so animators can show a sadistic side of actually shooting "people," dismembering them, and blowing them up like in the movie intro where Roadblock blasts the head off of one.
>>11622491>Retro Classified is supposed to be cartoon accurate>doesn't come with laser rifleI'm grabbing two regardless but still shameful of Hasbro making me turn to third parties for screen accuracy.
>>11622671I'm getting at least one as well because of my preference for the cartoon stuff. I don't know about you, but after collecting so many Classified Joes with stuffed blisters, I have a few rifles that others can share with the BAT.
>>11622478Welfare? Anyway would you like to see my new lavishly gaudy ballroom, or gold-plated pictures of me?
>>11622671Would a retro bat be much diffrent than the other bats out already? I have several and apart from heads or load outs theres not much diffrence in them beyond their uniforms.
>>11622742The one in the OP IS considered the retro BAT. It has the proper colored visor and the clear chest plate, since none of them have had that yet. At least, the OG Classified BAT didn't have that.
>>11622742In the cartoon the BAT has a red face and bright yellow trim instead of a silver faceplate and a "taxi cab yellow" color.
Link the thread faggot
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>>11622444first classified figure i've bought in ages, just got the shipping notificationi really hope he feels better in hand than the crimson bat, the original one felt so much better than that one that it put me off buying the snow version entirely
3 to go
>>11622943Cool. I know Zap is coming, but who are the other two?
>>11622975Flash and Grand Slam
>>11622980Considering they're the same figure, I'm sure they're coming soon. Grandslam has to come with a HAL though, but I can see Flash being Retro Carded.
I got my Greenshirts in today. They're great but the weapon selection leaves a bit to be desired. The laser rifle is fine if you like that but I always prefered real guns, and the SMG is one of those goofily designed ones where there's no way for the brace to line up with the arm. I think I might need to pick up some M-16s from Gridiron again.
Posting from the previous thread.I just received one, and it's fantastic. The plastic is great, the joints are kinda soft, but good, the articulation is great, very surprised they managed to give it as much articulation as a classified figure with the exo-skeleton. I just ordered the robot and the skull guy.While it looks great, I still would have preferred the classic Acid Rain aesthetic with the gas masks and the hoods and whatnot. Also, loose the exo-skeleton and give us extra hands.
>>11622444Iceberg and Royal Guard are also two unknown 2026 release dates.
I got the Monster Force MIB guy in today and he's fine, if not in need of more accessories. Not floppy at all. That guy who said the new wave was a floppy loose dud wave because he bought 40 of them but wouldnt show pictures had me scared but I guess I had no reason to be.
>>11624034Cobra-La royal guard is expected to be in the April Big Lob wave the last I heard.
Glow in the dark Mass Device Snake Eyes officially being teased.
>>11624249It would be cool if it actually did glow in the dark,band not just a paint job gimmick.
>>11624306Judging by past figures it'll be translucent glow in the dark plastic. The artwork looks very reminiscent of the ReAction version, which had actual plastic that glowed, and not paint. It kinda makes me think of the color changing Ninja Force figures in the 90s.
What was the last Hasbro thing that actually glowed in the dark
>>11623334I know it's likely done to give more range in the shoulders, but I hate the super skinny torso. Neat looking figure though. >>11624082A standard release would be excellent for army building. I imagine next year's convention exclusive will be Golobulus.
>>11624339It was probably the early 1990s when Hasbro last used glow-in-the-dark, coor changing, or flourescent day-glow plastic.
>>11622444not really into G.~I joe but this figure looks awesome
>>11624943It also costs more than a typical Classified 2-pack of figures, was Walmart-exclusive, and was made ultra-exclusive by a lot of cities not getting it at all while a select few stores in a select few cities got a ton of them. So basically Walmart and Hasbro handed the whole market for these to scalpers whohappen to be in the right areas.
>>11624955where i live we have no G.I joe on the shelves, i just buy it online or from amazon
>>11624973Where I live Target regularly gets them and does a fair job at stocking, but I've completely given up on WalMart. While searching for Ghost Viper and before checking their webite's "local pick-up" to see which stores had what, I want to multiple WalMarts only to find they had early-summer stock like Blowtorch and frag Viper, or didn't have any Classified figures at all. Not only do I believe that any Ghost Vipers came to my city, I don't think battle armor Cobra Commander and Crystal Ball ever came here as well. WalMart has become the absolute worst place to go shopping for any toys over the past few years, but it's especially true for GI Joe. Target is still decent though. I found both the Joe diver 2-pack and the Steeler/Short Fuze 2-pack in a nearby Target on the very day of their releases with no troubles at all. They just struggle to get a lot of the best figures (like Ghost Viper) because of Hasbro's insistence on giving WalMart all the best stuff that they refuse to distribute right so customers can actually buy it.
>>11624997Is Walmart regional? On the website Ghost Viper is shown as available for pick up, shipping, and delivery for me
>>11625050There are 29 WalMarts in my city and surrounding outskirts. Using the "local pick-up" option, I went through the zip codes of each side of the city, and not a single store got them.
I'm personally done with Ghost Viper. Last month was no problem even though I did bitch about the price. This month that $60 is our family Thanksgiving Day turkey and some of the other food to go with it. Next month that money's a Christmas present for someone else. I'll look into the "local pick-up" to see if anything's changed in January. Until then: fuck it. I might treat myself to the cartoon BAT if I chance on it while shopping next month, but that's it.
>>11625050If that's true I'd go and buy all their stock in person if I were you. Easy money on ebay.
>>11624380Golobulus will definitely be this year’s convention exclusive
>>11625076It's actually not. People are selling but I don't see a lot of people paying those scalper prices. For $100 you can get the Rattler gunner which is a lot more rare. For $30 more you can get Wild Weasel or Rattler Baroness. It just doesn't make sense to pay the scalper prices.
My Walmart did a restock two weeks ago after months of no new figures and all they put out was another batch of Saw Vipers, Zandar, and Leatherneck. Not even the insanely rare version of the case that had Dial Tone , who I had to pay $50 for purely because I fucking KNEW Hasbro would pull shit to make him impossible to find.My local Walmart has only stocked THREE deluxe GI Joes since the line launched (Scrap Iron, Crock Master, and the Frankenstein monster that was their half assed attempt to re release V2 Snake Eyes, now wearing trousers) as I never saw any of the animal packs or deluxe Metalhead and Raptor, let alone ANY deluxe/vehicle/IRL soldier packs like Ghost Viper or Night Force Shockwave. Fuck, the only place where I lived that got in the multi packs was GameStop and even then that was crapshoot complete with them only stocking a single multi pack per wave. Not to mention never seeing multiple Retro waves, resulting in me missing out on Retro Viper and Dr Mindbender.Fuck, I only just now broke and spent $48 online for Desert Scorpion. On top of paying $200 fire the SDCC Awe Striker because I never fucking got the Vamp and sure as shit wasn't going to miss out on Crankcase like I did Serpentor, Wild Bill, Wild Weasel, and Clutch The line has become a joke to the point of being unaffordable since you end up having to pay rape dollar prices online just to get figures
>>11622846He means put a link to this thread in the old threads. That's how people know to move to a new one and not creating multiple generals like what just happened.
>>11625159 All of my problems with the line come from Walmart getting most of the best stuff from the line, then pricing it high, then making it impossible to find it in most Walmart stores.
>>11625169Then why didn't do it since it's so important to you? >>11625225
>>11624063I got the Phantom Corps and the addon pack, along with the Invisible Man.
>>11625159Almost all of the stuff you listed is easy to get online, literally right now. Why did you pay $200 for an AWE that you can get for retail right now? Why are you lamenting the Retro Viper and Mindbender, when BBTS, Pulse, Target, Amazon, Walmart, literally EVERY place has them in stock RIGHT NOW for retail?
>>11625246Not everyone is a spoiled shithead who can pay online rape tax for shipping and let's face it, Hasbro's track record for vehicles is so fucking dire that you can't blame someone for being hit with FOMO given the number of a-List vehicles that go for rape dollar prices because they sold out asap.
>>11625226Because I'm not the OP? If you want to make threads, and you want people to use them, then you ought to make them right.
>>11625274I didn't even know the SNAKE armor was even out until after it had sold out.
>>11625159None of those were hard to find. Like, at all. Dial Tone was probably the most difficult, maybe, but shit you can still got like half that list at retail right now, including the AWE (The fuck you paid $200 for that, why?!)Are you just so primordially oldschool that you insist on only shopping brick and mortar? I mean, I know you have the internet, you're here pissing and moaning about being stupid, fucking buy shit from the websites, I guarantee you would have paid less in shipping than overspending a hundred bucks on the AWE that is still available from Pulse.
>>11625371Finding what you seek locally does have an intrinsic enjoyment to it.
>>11625274.....BBTS has a flat $4 shipping though
>>11625443and they charge a few dollars more for their stock compared to everyone else. They make up that shipping price difference and more.
>>11625230Are the heads as difficult to swap on yours as they are mine? I dunno, I wasn't the biggest fan of this figure but maybe I need to mess with it more. Is the add on pack worth it?
>>11625274Are you the guy that still doesn't have access to a credit/debit card?
>>11625496Really depends on what we're talking about, because they always only charged one dollar more than other places for Joes, and the upcoming few waves of Joes they have at $27.99 which is what every other place, including Pulse has. Which means you'd now be paying less than anywhere else.
>>11625496The In Stock stuff on BBTS is CHEAPER then both Amazon AND Pulse. Right now. Their pre-order stuff is the SAME as Pulse. Why would you make such easily disproven claims?Also, the AWE is up for sale on Pulse right now. Will probably be for a long time at that price. I'm hoping it eventually gets the Stinger treatment and gets discounted repeatedly, but if not I won't really miss not getting it.
>>11625504I had to boil mine. The werewolf, mummy, and invisible man were the same. I want to get the full, clear invisible man
>>11625506There are times when shopping local is better. Look at the Ghost Viper. It's not available online at Walmart, but the right stores that got it still have it.
>>11625827Sure, but only a literal child would sperg out at buying online. And I've seen the "rape prices" term used before. Pretty sure it's the same guy.
>>11625354Me either, for some reason missing out on a few exclusives just killed my passion for classified. Then you add in the price of breathing going up and its just kinda deflating over all. It sucks being a poor fag. I may try to sell my sealed hiss tank and get back into classified.
>>11626027I feel you. The hobby is supposed to be enjoyable, but when bullcrap like Walmart's crap distribution make it frustrating, it kills the fun.
>>11626027They need to fix whatever issues are going on with exclusives. Pulse shit immediately selling out sucks, but I guess I've (maybe) gotten lucky, so the only things I've really missed was the SNAKE, and like the Cobra-LA figures, but I've managed to get everything else I wanted. Still, even stuff like the Ferrets, the CLAW, the VAMP, and the trench Viper sets weren't in stock for long. They need to make a better effort at getting those small/mid size vehicles and sets easily available to people.Walmart has its own issues, and even the supposed big push to partner with Walmart has still lead to shortages of some stuff. Some of the Walmarts near me actually get the big island displays, and they've had every thing out (all the two packs, all the single release and deluxe release figures, the Stinger, etc) except the Ghost Viper. And I managed to catch Ghost on Pulse and Walmart's websites multiple times.That said, like 80-90% of the stuff is readily available. I actually think it easily one of the best lines out right now, and each wave and figure feels better than the last. I swear, every other figure out of this line feels like my new favorite.
>>11626134>Pulse shit immediately selling out sucks,The dumbest part is when the follow-up is producing too many. That happened with Cold Slither. That initially sold out in a nanosecond, then they re-stocked and apparently over-produced, and they'll probably get stuck with it in Pulse for the next few years.
>>11626137>They made too many so now anyone who wants one can get one You must be someone who works for Hasbro mad about the stock sitting around because that's not dumb for the people who wanted it but missed out the first time
>>11626164Nigger, it's been available for like 5 months.Anyone who actually wants it, has it. If you don't, it's because you don't really want the set that much.Me, for example, I'll get it if it drops below 100 on Black Friday or around Christmas time or whatever to be the centerpiece of my Dreadnoks until the T-Machine drops, but otherwise I can live without it.
>>11626171Exactly. There is such a thing as producing too much.
>>11626171Nigger, how does this effect you in any way as a fan and not a Hasbro slaveIts not "dumb" they did this from our point of view at all, unless you have anything besides mindless retard speculation that them producing this made another product not get a second run. That anon was crying about the sky being blue
Wait are you guys arguing about a product being in stock and not sold out
>>11626195Turning a success into an over-produced loss is never a good idea for the stability for the line. Hasbro and its retailer partners can only take so much of that shit, which is no doubt why Walmart's distribution has gotten so shitty now with them sending new stuff to the stores that bought a lot of the previous stuff. Fuck everyone else for not buying that shit figure they didn't want in order to get other ones they want later on.
>>11626195It's dumb to overproduce some niche speciality item that a fraction of the regular fanbase would care about.If you think that statement is incorrect, you're retarded, particularly in this example when the set is still readily available.This isn't even getting into the forced hype machine they bankrolled for the thing, the fake band and all the advertisements. They put more effort into selling Cold Slither than the fucking Snow Cat.
>>11626207hasbro is frankly really bad at gauging demand for productssee: the current tron haslab, convention exclusives like the ML death's head that are still available to buy a year and a half after release, while others like serpentor or that savage land 3 pack sell out immediately and leave tons of customers who would have bought them pissed off.
>>11626196Its just people having to be annoyed about something yeah. Theyre mad if its sold out theyre mad if it's over produced.
>>11626247Hasbro has a fuckload of MBAs who either underproduce or overproduce. They suck at finding the right equilibrium number to produce just the right amount.
>>11622444I have pretty much every variation of the B.A.T. there is, don't know why, probably because I like robots?!?FACT!!!
>>11626397>pretty much
>>11626397It's a cool design. Even the 1986 BAT is one of the most valuable from the 80s line.
>>11626397Same. I like to imagine each of the B.A.T. variants are treated like tanks and artillery and Cobra Commander decides what sub-groups get some based on performance.>CC makes Scrap Iron custom paint the Python Patrol and IG B.A.T.s from regular B.A.T.s and tries passing them off as new models.>"The Crimson B.A.T. is 3 times faster than a regular B.A.T. !"
>>11626517Cobra Commander rewarding his troops by scamming them in the process is the most on-brand Cobra Commander thing to do.
>>11626517within the classified "lore" the crimson BAT is enough of an upgrade over the original that Chuckles was sent to steal the specs for them
>>11626212There's demand for the Tron Haslab. It's just too expensive for what you get, and it has zero unlockables to incentivize buying into it.
>>11626663Chuckles was intercepted, put to death, and Cobra Commander snuck into Joe HQ using Chuckles's clothes. It was a successful mission. He got in and out of Joe HQ with massive amounts of classified intel without anyone noticing.
I want a Ghost BAT
>>11626953I want ghost everything. Female versions, ghost troopers, BATs, maybe a ghost Range Viper. I ended up buying three of ghost vipers.
>>11626967>>11626953Black Major makes some cool stuff for the O-ring scale. They even did the "Ghost Viper" first to where the Hasbro version reeks of being a copy. Since they've done glow-in-the-dark stuff first, it'll be interesting to see if Hasbro follows up.Probably not, though. If they wouldn't do glow-in-the-dark plastic for Ghost Viper, then it's doubtful that they'd do it with a BAT. Still, IF by any chance they dot he Phantom Brigade to top off Cobra's spectral force, then glow-in-the-dark plastic is the only way to do it right.
>>11626978I think Hasbro will want to reuse the green ghost crap as much as they can, and it would be a safe bet for continuing walmart exclusives, plenty of collectors think it's stupid and skipped it, and the ghost vipers are proving to be kind of plentiful, if overpriced it would be easy to do a ghost crimson guard or whatever in a few months
>>11626989Glow-in-the-dark green ghost plastic is cooler than dull clear green plastic. >and it would be a safe bet for continuing walmart exclusivesNot really with their distribution problems where a lot of stores and even a lot of cities not getting Ghost Viper at all while others were loaded with them. >kind of plentifulIn the right areas. In other areas, it never showed up at all.
>>11626994>In the right areas. In other areas, it never showed up at all.It's apparently not at any of my local stores, and yet when I ordered one online last night, it arrived an hour ago, today.Whatever stores are getting them are getting like fifty+They'll be around, if I had more self control I'd wait, because they'll be 40 bucks in a few months, and maybe that's when they fully sell out
>>11626978>They even did the "Ghost Viper" first to where the Hasbro version reeks of being a copy.How? Making a standard-ass GITD Viper is very different from making green fear gas dudes with monster heads and arms.
>>11627088Even being 90% kitbash, the new helmet, green heads, and claws are all about as much new sculpting as a typical "new" figure.
>>11627088There's enough of it there to see where the idea was borrowed from.
I got around to putting the stickers on my Ramen Hunter tank today. For those who have one or are planning on getting one, I will give you an important heads up before you start: the stickers are NOT the forgiving "you can try 3 to 4 times" type that Hasbro uses. These stickers are spray painted onto a temporary adhesive backed sheet of plastic, and have a "permanent" layer of adhesive precisely applied to the back of the printed area. You peel the sticker off the sheet, align it VERY carefully with the spot you want to place it WITHOUT letting it touch the plastic, then you slam that bitch down hard and peel the plastic away. If you do it right the end result looks great like it's an actual paint app, but if you fuck up placing it you don't get a second chance. If you fuck it up badly enough you can scrape it off with your fingernail and clean it up with rubbing alcohol easily enough, but once you screw up a sticker you're not getting it back, so be very careful. The first one I tried putting down was an important sticker and I didn't get it lined up quite the way I wanted, and that's how I learned the hard way what I was dealing with, but fortunately it's not super noticeable.I'm lucky enough to own a Brother label printer because there were a few smaller stickers that I screwed up and there weren't any duplicates. I also made a couple extra custom stickers like the US flag on the turret. They are conventional clear stickers but they look fine, and in any case you can do some really fun custom stuff for your vehicles with it so I recommend getting one if you can anyway.
>>11627540If anything, that looks way more like a direct ripoff of Hasbro's Halloween Clone Troopers. The only thing it has in common with the Ghost Vipers is a skull on the helmet.
>>11627690>Hasbro ripped off a bootleg Joe figure that ripped off a Star Wars figure that was made by HasbroSeems plausible since there's a reason why Hasbro decided to unneccessarily toss in the Viper head with the skull face on it.
>>11627693I wouldn't ever call alt heads on army builders unnecessary. In fact, I'd say they should all have them, even if they are just repaints. Would you really complain if every single Viper type came also came with a standard viper helmet that matched the overall color scheme?
>>11627693Its literally the bog-standard Viper body, aside from the arms. It makes plenty of sense for it to come with a standard Viper head...and it isn't like painting a skull on a the helmet is really that unique or bizarre of an idea to the point that it comes off as some "obvious ripoff'.I think some of you guys are just desperate to come up with reasons to hate the figure, so you come up with whatever shaky reasoning you can.
>>11627741The only reason to hate the Ghost Viper is the pricepoint, otherwise it's fantastic and really they should be doing more shit like this as filler while they're working on new molds.The line has a serious lack of Vipers as it is, and they still haven't gone as heavy into repaints as most past iterations of Joe figures.
>>11627743>The only reason to hate the Ghost Viper is the pricepointAnd the part where a lot of stores and even entire cities never got it at all while a few stores got a ton of them, basically forcing it as an over-prices exclusive for scalpers who happen to be in the right areas
>>11627741>I think some of you guys are just desperate to come up with reasons to hate the figureI posted what you replied to. I never said I hated the figure. Quite the opposite I think it's one of the top-5 best figures of the year, which isn't bad for an over-priced "He-Man" Joe that's 85% re-used parts and absolute shit store distribution. But I do see a coincidence there that you easily dismiss.
>>11627764>And the part where a lot of stores and even entire cities never got it at all while a few stores got a ton of them,I'll say this again, my area apparently has none but I was still able to order one online for delivery in less than 24 hours.Wherever they are, there's too fucking many of them and the problem will sort itself out. Instead of complaining that you can't find any in stores, have you tried just getting one online? I've done that twice.
>>11627783I jsut checked, and fuck. The pic explains what's showing up for me.
>>11627789It was 60 two days ago.
>>11627792Well not now, at least for my area. It probably still is $60 in the areas that got a fuckload of them. And don't forget that it launched at $55.
>>11627794It launched at a discounted price for their fall geek out promotion and was never going to stay at that price>>11627789Very mean to leave this part out. Do you get your kicks encouraging the delusions of retards?
>>11627816He's just gonna repeat his copy paste about Walmart being about low prices, if they post this image >>11627794 you're talking to a tape recording basically
>>11627816I screencapped what comes up for me. Notice the absolute lack of local delivery/pickup on the right side of the screencap. I am sure it was totally accidental that you didn't notice the lack of the option that someone else in another area used to get it, and you're totally just not out to start another needless internet argument just so you can "win" at something.
>>11627824That must be why you didn't correct these >>11627792 >>11627794 guys then lmao
I feel like the Ghost Vipers price always leads to the most autistic conversations in these threads
>>11627825I didn't post the first one you linked and don't know who did. I did post the second one which was an earlier screengrab. And what I posted doesn't need correcting. It did launch at $55, then jump to $60. There's nothing wrong with it. So because I directed your attention to the total lack of local pickup and delivery for my area so I CAN'T do like people in other areas are doing to get it, this is your next reason to dig in, huh?You're just that Crystal Ball/Reaction+ Cobra Commander guy who has to pick internet-fights over any excuse so you can believe that you "win" at something, and are a fucking psycho. Now that you've exposed yourself, I'll resume doing like last time with hiding your posts.
>>11627831It really did bring in the most retarded arguments I've seen in awhile. The guy who thinks Walmart owes him deals makes me want to never see it brought up again
>>11627833Im sorry you're a schizo and you're bundling everyone who ever calls you stupid into a single boogieman
>>11627831I was willing to pay $60 IF it was ever available in my area. Fuck scalpers wanting any more than that, though. I already said that I'll look into what's going on with it after Christmas because at this time of year I have other things to focus spending on.
I like that the Anti Crystal Ball Anon lives rent free in the Ghost Viper Conspiracy Anons head so much that even thought the Anti Crystal Ball anon wrote huge paragraphs in response to people he still sees all enemies as the Anti Crystal Ball anon even if their writing styles are completely different
>>11627824>I screencapped what comes up for me.Then get fucked, bitch. You lose.I'm gonna have five of these things if they do ever go on sale.
>>11627837I think we just have a new autist hanging around for some reason. There's been dumb arguments like this for the past several threads.
>>11627865No shit. It was shit distribution. That was 100% the complaint. Everything else is imaginary by you so could argue.
>>11627873>imaginary by youFirst of all, ESL.Secondly, I have not imagined anything. This figure is basically everywhere, I don't know if you're lying or you're just in some fucked area that doesn't even Walmarts or something with 100 dollar option.I "imagine" that there's too many of these figures out there, they will go on sale, and you'll be complaining about something else as people post pics of these things selling for 39.99.Maybe complain a little less and buy one.
>>11627877I already showed my receipts so to say with the screen grab showing it's not available in my area, which is south central Texas. >>11627789None of the Walmarts I've been to look like they bothered to order anything new after the early summer wave with Frag Viper. One was so loaded with Jurassic Park stuff that you'd think the movie just came out. They did screw up distribution. That's why scalpers are having a field day selling them to people who never got them locally elsewhere. If they were readily available everywhere then eBay wouldn't be full of assholes wanting $100 for them. You're just a fucking asshole who wants to make yourself feel better by "beating" someone in a pointless argument.
>>11627934Sucks for you, bro. I'm in the Houston area and apparently every walmart near me got a bunch this past weekend.
>>11627940Well alright for you. I'm not an envious person, and am glad that at least some can find it somewhere, and it's still showing up in areas. Well except for scalpers. Fuck 'em. They've gotten so bad that they now hoard Ollies/Ross clearance Joes to scalp.
>>11626517I'm still clinging to my headcanon that Copperhead spent a year's pay on the Python Patrol BAT and doesn't know it's just a repaint, while Tomax and Xamot are just throwing money at the BAT design team to make the Crimson BATs better than the regular model.
>>11627961>Tomax and Xamot are just throwing money at the BAT design team to make the Crimson BATs better than the regular model.That's consistent with the narrative since their Crimson Guards are supposed to be better than the regular Cobra blueshirts, so their Crimson BATs should also be better than regular BATs.
does anyone have the source for this photo/any idea what was used to make lady jaye and the background?
>>11627998GI Joe episode "Skeletons in the Closet." Lady Jaye finds out she's related to Destro, and he's in a satanic cult. He gets pissed when he finds out that she inherited their family's ancestral castle. Baroness tips off the Joes who in turn blow the shit out of the place trying to rescue Lady Jaye. She does it as revenge for Destro cheating on her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_NTyMERXwc
>>11627540Why did he use the wrong legs
>>11628024I know, I meant more like what figure was used for lady jaye in the picture, and if the background was custom made or something you can buy
>>11627934>>11627833>>11627824What's with this constant accusation about winning online arguments when everyone's just calling you retarded, did I miss we were getting points or something
Crystal Ball is in stock on walmart.com, apparently.
>>11627743>The line has a serious lack of Vipers as it is, and they still haven't gone as heavy into repaints as most past iterations of Joe figures.Are you specifically talking about the standard OG Vipers, or all of the specialized Vipers too? I army build Vipers, so I am always cool with more, but I feel like we've gotten quite a few different ones, actually. Off the top of my head;Standard Viper>Cobra Island, Retro card, 3-Pack, Officer, Python Patrol, Crimson, GhostAlley Viper>OG Orange and Blue, Crimson (PoC deco), TrenchTele-Viper>Standard with Trubble Bubble, Retro, Python PatrolTechno Viper>Standard, recolor with SMS MissilesRange Viper>Standard, repaint in HISS Strike team setAnd then FRAG Viper and SAW Viper with no repaints yetAnd the Grim Viper and Night Viper coming up. I mean, I'm all for more, and I'd love repaints of existing figures (Still REALLY want the Yellow and Black v2 Alley Viper, but I want him to have the proper shield and helmet visor), but I also want lots of other versions they just haven't done yet (Rock Viper, Flak Viper, Strato Viper, Sludge Viper, etc.)
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>>11628279Not counting the standard Vipers or the repaints, It's like 6 in, what, five years?In my opinion they aren't doing enough regular troopers either, 5 different releases, 2 cobra islands, the officer, the valkyries and the retro. They should be doing like two of those a year, same navy blue, slightly different web gear, weapons, whatever. There's no real reason not to, and it would beat stacking the Retro version which looks like shit because it doesn't match anyone else, and the cobra island ones are scalper bait at this point, and kind of outdated.They should just do a male version of the valkyrie pack, two generic troopers with 3-ish heads to swap between
>>11628296Well, they've done a lot of other generics too. Red ninjas, Blue ninjas, Night Creepers, Twilight Guards, Crimson Guards/PP Crimson Guards/Retro Crimson Guards, at least 5 or 6 different kinds of BATS, a couple Snow Serpents, etc.More troop packs would definitely be nice, though.
When is Reaction+ gonna stop jacking us around, and just show the next wave?
>>11628585Seems to be their model now to only put pics out when they’re less than a month from release.
>>11628596Not even that. The last wave (Pythona/Big Lob/arctic Destro/arctic Snake Eyes) had its pictures shown, then not even a week later they were in stores. The same goes for the Universal Monsters O-ring figures. It's like that's their strategy with not telling us shit until they're already in distribution channels on their way to retail.
Apolgies for the use of AI slop but does this concept have potential?
>>11628705Sure why not.
>>11628624I think they realized the preorder model was biting them in the ass with all their constant delays. You can’t know there is a delay if they don’t announce it until it’s already on shelves.
>>11628726I guess that's true, but at $25 each for 3.75" figures, some have to plan ahead, which we can't do
What's a good cowboy hat for classified figures?
Think I'm going to cancel some of my grim vipers. Ordered a bunch but Amazon still has some for preorder.
>>11629039WWE Legends Billy Gunn
>>11628288Fun fact; the guy who played the live action Duke in the GZi Joe commercials of this era was the guy under the hood in this photo
>>11629112So Cobra Commander was really Duke all along. I had somehow suspected this.
New wave of ReAction+ is out! First up is Mara.
Glow in the dark Snake Eyes from the Mass Device mini-series.
Arctic Scarlett
Cobra Commander with his cape. This gives everyone a second chance to get a basic Cobra Commander since the first release is now really hard to find.
>>11629522It feels like they're cranking these out every other month. I wonder what Wave 7 will be? Part of me wants to see them continue to build out Arctic versions of characters, but I also want a few more core characters to get released.
>>11629522I wonder how many more waves they’re gonna release before they’ll finally make zartan with his cartoon hair, fuck.
>>11629513>>11629515Day-1 buy when it comes out. >>11629516Don't want, but do have a soft spot for glow-in-the-dark stuff, so might end up with it anyway. >>11629520Looks better than expected to be honest. >>11629521Also a day-1 buy. The fact that they're showing them now tells me they'll be in stores within a week.
>>11629522each figure should be around 7 buckaroos
>>11629913You're an idiot.
>>11630670Not him, but a 3.75" figure is just $2 less than a 6-inch Classified Joe with a lot more accessories. That doesn't make sense, and they should be cheaper. You have to really be a fan of the O-ring Joes to buy them at that price.
>>11629913Id be alot more curious and very likely actively collect these at a $10-$12 price range. Im not not getting the bang for my buck at $20+, id feel foolish in a way that i normally dont feel as grown man buying action figures.
>>11630712People are only fans of o-rings to spite the 6inch line.
>>11630725The O-ring fans were around decades longer and spent a hell of a lot more money on our collections.
>>11630730and yet they weren't this bitchy when the 25th line started
>>11630725o ring is based
>>11630712I run an action figure line. The figures are $5-7 each in just production cost. And that doesn't include molds, packaging, prototyping, etc.
Man, valaverse really dropped the ball on these headsculps. Between the shit boot joints and quality this wave is underwhelming.
>>11630876bobby's trashverse
>>11630876Did you get the new weapon pack? I'm mildly interested in it for the shotguns, but I'm hesitant cause the scale of his stuff is all over the place
>>11630939Is there a reason why Hasbro won't make a weapon pack for the GI Joe line? Would kill for more backpacks, regular looking guns and rifles, berets, swords than the potluck of what comes with the fugures
>>11630736That's because the 25th line out Firebats, Skystrikers, Tomahawks, and all sorts of other vintage vehicles back on store shelves at low prices. We had nothing to complain about.
This guy got his hands on a Night Viper, Hit-n-Run, and Lifeline that aren't supposed to ship until April. He also got a retro BAT a month early:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO9WurDXuywhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9iJh8UF48Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLEcckSbIMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9iJh8UF48MWhy is Hasbro doing that? It's like a giant "fuck you" to paying customers told to wait while some people get shit first in exchange for a shameless promo.
>>11631028This stuff has been happening for ages, though. And nearly every figure releases early these days. The Retro BAT has been available on Pulse for weeks already anyway.
>>11631028Posted BAT twice instead of Hit-n-Run. Sorry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEtAOczsRA4This guy got Big Lob 5 months early:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjzPuIFAY54I think that's a dick move by Hasbro to do this.
>>11631028Bitch, I just had 2 waves of Marvel Legends ship nearly two months early. Hasbro has been doing this shit for years. You'll probably start seeing pre orders for this ship in two weeks to a month if people are already making reviews for them.
>>11631030>I think that's a dick move by Hasbro to do this.Once again,mall shit ships months early. The retro BAT can literally be purchased right now. Chill your nuts bro. You'll get your toy in a few weeks.
>>11631028You can do this too if you buy from China and sometimes Australia.
>>11630876Jesus, the Operation Monster Force Phantom Corps blows this the fuck out.
>>11630898Honestly, they were good "random troopers", but this new wave is just generic. I don't know how to explain it, but there's "unique generic" (like the cobra vipers, generic troopers that stand out) and just "generic generic" and vala is falling into the latter, boring designs.>>11630939I got the rifles one, Mike I think. They are actually excellent, the best guns I've seen from vala. The only issue is the handles are a bit too thick. >>11631061By a mile.
Party rock is in house tonight.
>>11631149Nice, I was thinking about grabbing that one too, if only for the grey rifle and the mp5. I often get annoyed with the color clashing that happens with the painted ones.
>>11630939It looks goodAny reason BBTS doesnt stock them anymore
>>11631205it does work with Big Ben for that SAS look
>>11631236I think they just take a little longer to get new stuff, I'm just gonna wait cause I want to throw it into the pol>>11631260Not bad, shame they don't offer individual weapon purchases. I'd buy a lot of those for the riot police
>>11630949For real. Their AK is great and the backpacks too. I would def buy some gear packs, with helmets, backpacks, guns, radios and stuff.Maybe ponchos too, and gasmasks.
>>11631198Lucky. Cobra has a lot of great army builders but there are very few that I've actually tried to, especially given how rare and expensive the ghost viper is. Maye I'll see if I can get a pair of retro arctic vipers before the Snow Cat comes out, with the wolf pelt version as the squad leader.
>>11631298>Maye I'll see if I can get a pair of retro arctic vipers before the Snow Cat comes out, with the wolf pelt version as the squad leader.I have that exact set up, and one Arctic BAT and the polar bear, I plan to put them in front of the Arctic HISS.
>>11631198>GI Joe calls in the Ghostbusters>the ghost vipers are fucked
>>11631325>try to capture the ghosts>they're just energy projections>egon melts from the inside from hardlight plasma cobra venom
>>11631260I wanted more Joe's in gasmasks
>>11631329Wouldn't the proton pack kill a normal human i dont know the lore
>>11631362but would it kill laser wolvesor mind hallucination wolves or whatever they're supposed to be, because there's theoretically nothing supernatural about any of it
>>11631369Yeah so wouldn't it just go through any normal human since its a nuclear powered laser that causes a holocaust blast if two lasers cross
>>11631198Exclusivity not withstanding there's so much potential for Ghost Divers with lobster claw hands and shark faces, Ghost sand troopers with scorpion faces and hands made of spider arms for fingers, jungle ghosts there's almost too much they could be
>>11631382>Yeah so wouldn't it just go through any normal humanIt would probably melt them, because in the movies we see beams hit walls and other stuff, which causes them to burn/combust.
>>11631385Yeah, if the standard is entirely reuse, with MAYBE a unique alt head, and then also the ghost hands/heads, they could really get some mileage out of this.And it would be better to keep walmart exclusives in that lane rather than have another range viper situation again
>>11631385I want the Phantom Brigade of a ghostly WW1 pilot, Roman legionnaire, and Mongolian horse warrior.
>>11631388Watch the next one be a $85 Artic Ghost because it comes with a green polar bear
>>11631298>>11631320I just got myself a Retro Snow Serpent for exactly this kind of set up. Initial plan was just to stop at a trio for Cobra's Arctic team, but if the Arctic Hiss isn't too pricey I could easily fall into the trap of grabbing that. I always loved it when I could build an entire special environment team and get them all riding in the same vehicle and a four man arctic squad, with one being a BAT, would go real well with that tank. Pic related was my ME Cobra Arctic Team and that RoC Ice Dagger works so much better with Cobra.
>>11631466I'm thinking 250 for the Arctic HISS, but it should be 200.
Went looking for a ghost viper but i didnt even see a shelf tag, it was nice to see classified on shelves again though. My trip wasnt fruitless though, grabbed a action pilot at ollies for $15 so thats cool. Pretty cool for a generic figure, decent enough gear but youd think he would carry smaller weapons. Guess airbone has a budfy now while i wait for hit and run and life line to fill out that crew.
>>11631468I can see that, though I agree $200 would be about as high as I feel it should be. Hopefully it skips out on the electronics to help shave down costs, but it comes with a lot of gear and a surprisingly nice, subtle paint scheme. It's more of a dirty snow look with some digital camo on it so it's not just a bleached white tank. I wish I took pics of it when I saw it in person, but it was actually more impressive then I had anticipated.
Do you guys have any thoughts on some futuristic 1/12 military soldiers that I can troop build into some kind of human race traitor troop for an invading alien force? Joes, Marvel Legends, indies, all are welcome
>>11631149The issue isn't the product, it's bobby being an insufferable cunt
>>11630725i've been collecting since longer than you've probably been alive
>>11631641and yet you refuse to buy classified
>>11631664why the fuck would i?
>>11631688Like I said.At this point you're committing to o-rings more to spite the 6inch scale than any other reason you might claim to have.
>>11631707being spiteful is lame.I personally don't buy o-ring shit nor classified shit, because they're both pretty unnecesssary. Actual 1:18 is the true path and it's what I've been spending most of my free cash on for the past couple of years.I wonder how much sales have fallen for 1:12 and how long it will take for Hasbro to return to 1:18
>>11631717>I wonder how much sales have fallen for 1:12 and how long it will take for Hasbro to return to 1:18If their offerings are like that last Walmart retro 1:18th line, they can fucking keep them.
>>11631717>I wonder how much sales have fallen for 1:12 They haven't. >and how long it will take for Hasbro to return to 1:18lmao
>>11631719It'd have been fine if they actually offered anything new, instead of the same shit we bought in 2006 with slightly better articulation.Retreading old ground is why i really don't care about the new Classified stuff either. Despite me growing up in the 80s and I'd rather see new designs instead
>>11631724>Retreading old ground is why i really don't care about the new Classified stuff either.Yeah, that Ghost Viper, one of the classic '87 figures.
>>11631702>A gem of that size....answers ALL my questions
>>11631707>YOU LIKE O-RINGS TO SPITE ME BECAUSE I LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT!That's a big presumption to assume that people like and enjoy something just to annoy other people they don't even know. The O-ring stuff has the 7-foot aircraft carrier, terror drome, Defiant space shuttle, and all sorts of other cool stuff that'll never ever be offered in the larger sizes. It also has more direct sentimental/nostalgia value than any of the modern stuff has. But I do concede that with the fanbase the way it is, Classified will be among the very few lines from the 2020s that'll generate sentimental nostalgia value in the future.
>>11631825>Classified will be among the very few lines from the 2020s that'll generate sentimental nostalgia value in the futureI doubt this.I think it'll be more like the GI Joe Vs Cobra line in terms of who'll remember it fondly.Most people don't have much nostalgia for the GI Joe Vs Cobra line, but it filled in a want for anything GI Joe.... It's nothing special. It's not the future of the line that fans wanted.Unlike GI Joe vs Cobra, the Classified line isn't even selling all that well. So it's much more niche, so at best, you'll have a few ardent fans.It disappointed too many fans.
>>11631833>the Classified line isn't even selling all that wellWe're about to enter year 6 of it being in stores. It sells well. It's one of the few HASLAB lines with a 100% backed success rate. However the individual characters that flop really really flop. Plus Hasbro has a terrible way of responding to a figure that sold out quick by following up with overproducing it to turn a massive win into a massive fail.
>>11631836>It sells well.No, it exists.You keep bringing up Haslab, but the fact that exists is a sign of failure, because Hasbro only creates Haslab projects because retailers don't have confidence in those making them money. And those stores would be right, because selling 20k is nothing to those stores, because they used to sell in the hundreds of thousands. The figures in the millions, because every store sold them.Nowadays half of retail stores don't even carry the Classified line, because it sold poorly in the stores that don't carry them anymore.pic is what we used to get in a single quarter, because this was what a GI Joe toyline with actual demand used to get produced.Nevermind Hasbro was also producing comic packs and 1/6 dolls during this time too.Nevermind the GI Joe conventions too, which is a true sign that the GI Joe brand was popular with fans. There hasnt been a GI Joe con since 2018.These are sad times compared to what we used to have.
>>11631873>Haslab projects because retailers don't have confidence in those making them moneyThis is incorrect. It's because the items are too big and take up too much space on shelves. That's the only reason.>>11631707No, 6 inch fundamentally sucks.
>>11631873>It doesn't sell wellProve it.>>11631918>6 Inch fundamentally sucksThen why is it winning?
>pic is what we used to get in a single quarter, because this was what a GI Joe toyline with actual demand used to get produced.And guess how much less McDonalds cost 20 years ago. But it wasn't because of scale, and neither is this.
>>11631918Gone are the days of walking into a TRU, getting an item ticket for something too big for the toy shelves (like the Flagg), and having it brought to you after you pay for it. Stores don't want to bother with that for toys anymore.
>>11631873>>11631918Reminder that this retard claimed to not be an autistic fag who only buys o-rings because he hates Classifed.
>>11631949There's nothing wrong with not liking Classified. Just because you do that doesn't mean that your opinions on things are holy truth. It's just opinions. There really is a lot to like about the 3.75" size. It really does give you so much more than the 6" size can. And it's been around longer, so it still has a massive fan base. BUT it's OK to NOT like it as well. That doesn't mean anyone's right because it's just opinions and preferences.
>>11622444I dont usually buy alot of the classified figures but i was waiting for this one because he was so cool and they had two at a target (somewhat) near me so i got one
>>11631970"Any last words?"
>>11631918>>11631949You're an idiot.
>>11631965great, autistpost some more shit from 40 years ago that they aren't making in 6inch scalebut also not in 3.75 inch scale either, in the past 30 years
>>11631978So? Their values are still high because people are still buying and collecting them. But you don't care. You attack anything that doesn't align with your opinions. >>11631976You counter with...........?
>>11632000>their values are still highlmao
>>11632015Dude fuck off. You never contribute to any discussion, and just shitpost. Values ae based on demand, fool. But in your arrogant world you can't fathom the possibility of people liking what you want to hate.
>>11632019>based on demandSo go look up how much Classified Serpentor and Nemesis are selling for
>>11632020Show me where I said they were worthless. Show me where I said anything in Classified was worthless. You're ultimately dealing with two different types of collectors collecting the same property. One really doesn't effect the other with the exception fo a few crossover collectors who try to collect both. And your bitching about O-ring Joes isn't gonna compel people to stop collecting them.
>>11632051there's not enough people collecting o-rings for me to care about them in generalit's just you being annoying all the time
>>11632052You're so wrong. You just don't see them in stores because the majority of their buying is vintage that's not currently found in Walmart. You're just a fucking snob that wants to believe that your preferences reflect the majority.
>>11631970Damn really want this guy
>>11632083Mine comes Monday. I had like 5 ordered but canceled them after Amazon ever sold out
>>11632083I had to get him because i skipped the original range viper and regretted ever since because i assumed i would see him in walmart but never did
>>11632088Ive got three POIll support all Range Vipers after missing the first one
Full Force Podcast got the new wave of Reaction+. These are about to show up in hand for anyone who ordered them off the Super7 website. They should be in stores soon.
>>11632095I hate that this is all we get for 3.75 now. I understand the reality that 6 inch is the new standard and hell lately ive been liking 6 inch more then usual but i still miss modern 3.75 hasbro joe figures
>>11632055>you're just a snob>now let me go back to praising my purposefully antiquated boutique figures that, like I said, aren't on walmart shelves like the hipster shit you're interested in
>>11631945Almost everything GI Joe Haslab isn't oversized like Unicron or Galactus. THey're not even playset big and they were carrying shit like that up until 1:18 GI Joe died, because it was still that popular.And toy stores still carry toys this big, but only for toylines that are actually popular. Again, Haslab exists because Hasbro wants to make a toy, but stores don't have confidence in it selling, because previous toys like it sold poorly.Disney did its best at killing the STar Wars fanbase and retailers don't want to order more Star Wars products, so of course Haslabs exist for it. Tron was never popular, so of course a Haslab was made for it, because Hasbro was stupid enough to licesne it and they're losing money by not making anything (like Star Wars). These Haslabs are marks of a failed fanbase. GI Joe needing a Haslab is sad.And look at how they compacted everything before in order to please retailers.>>11632051It's sad how fractured the GI Joe fanbase is. People are angry that not every fan is buying the Classified line, because they're seeing how poorly the line has been selling. No one's going to look at this era with much fondness.Back the GI Joe vs Cobra line, there was a lot of love for vintage style o-ring figures benig released concurrently with the then-modern GI Joes. No one bothered the doll collectors. So everyone co-existed without drama, because sales were great. During the 25th+ era, vintage o-ring figures and dolls co-existed and everyone was happy, because sales were great.Now sales are so bad that Hasbro doesn't even make the vintage o-rings or dolls themselves anymore; they've licensed out their own toylines and has such low confidence in the Classified line that it needs to cockblock another licensor from releasing toys in the US, because they fear it'll cannibalize the already weak 1:12 sales>>11631949I don't buy o-ring.
>>11632052>there's not enough people collecting o-rings for me to care about themThis might be the dumbest thing I have ever read in this general.
>>11632247>because they're seeing how poorly the line has been sellinglmao
>>11632247You talk like a robot. Every time this topic gets brought up, you post the same, nearly verbatim posts about how Classified is perpetually dying, and everyone actually only wants 1:18th (if that were true, Hasbro would have never cancelled it) and nobody buys Classified, when the line is 6 years in. Hilariously enough, Classified lasted almost as long as the entire 1:18th ME Joe lines. It started in 2007 with 25th anniversary, and the part anyone cared about actually ended in like 2012/2013. No one gave a shit about the stuff that came later like the 50th Anni repacks or the messy, wet fart that was the Walmart retro line.You are calling upon cosmic levels of trying to will the end of this line, while you seethe and cope about how well it is doing.
>>11632304And they'll never leave the threads. We'll see them talking about the line dying forever
>>11632304Im a huge 3.75 fag but you are absolutely right. 6 inch classified just sells better, for better or for worse.
Wal-Mart canceled my pre-order for this, which I made in the first ten minutes on the day it went up for pre-order. Then like 40 of them showed up in my local store, now this. Why the fuck did my pre-order get canceled?
>>11632304>you have to change what you say or you don't actually mean itThere's only so many ways you can say 2+2=4Fact is, Haslab are failed products that get nowhere near what toys like pic used to sell simply by getting retailer support at TRU and indie stores.Fact is, Classified isn't sold in half of Targets and Walmarts anymore due to being such poor sellers.Fact is, Hasbro has lowered sales expectations which allows the line to continue on, hence Haslab existing in the first place and putting up with the half assed retail support.The line would have been canceled long before it got to this point if this happened in the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s and even pre-COVID shut down.
I finally opened the S.N.A.K.E. armor, the plastic seems a little cheep. Otherwise it is pretty fun.
>>11625573What wolf is that? Loosecollector?
Do people still buy GI Joes for their kids? Or is it just collectors who keep everything in the blister? Just getting into it here, bought some for my kids for christmas and damn are GI Joes fucking expensive
>>11632348The same thing happened to me however many weeks ago when it first hit shelves.My day 1 preorder got cancelled, and then literally that same day after going to Walmart to grab a drink on my way home from work, I walked past the display of new/restocked shit and there were fucking 8 Crystal Balls there on the shelf
>>11632352>fun fact the much bigger, far more detailed vehicles cost more than the smaller hunks of plastic released 15 years ago, several of which were literally not even updated from the 80s/90s
>>11632095>>11632099I am confused why people like the reaction line. 5 points of articulation, atleast the old 3.5in figures still articulated, but I have dove headfirst into classified without knowing too much. bought the 60th anniversary sniper, SAW viper, cobra desert scorpion & skrp10n, kim jinx arishikage, christopher law lavigne and order with german shephard, sgt slaughter & felix mercer stratton 2 pack, snake eyes v4 and an iron grenadier
>>11631970How in the fuck did you get this guy? Everything I see says he ships january 1st
>>11632400You should zoom in on those a bit more
>>11632411So the knees do bend on the 3.75 in still or do they goose step?
>>11632415It's Reaction+ which are O'ring figures like the good old days of the 80s/90s/00s
>>11632391Nothing is more detailed today than it was 30 years ago, because molding technology hasn't improved and toy companies have only decreased their budgets since 2012Pic is what you used to be able to get for cheap thanks to the magic of mass market retail support. It's more detailed than 100% of vehicles today, with more moving parts and much more paint. It's bigger than Hasbro's half-sized 1:12 Dragonfly too, because it's actually 1:18 scale and helicoptors are huge.In today's money, it would cost $65 or ~$100 if produced today, with paint apps being decreased thanks to how factories charge for things. The fact that Haslab's Dragonfly costs $300 is solely because it gets a FRACTION of sales that Motorworks used to enjoy and Motorworks was a niche collector line.Again, the prices alone shows how much sales have dropped off for GI Joe.You probably don't realize how bad shit is today because you've only lived in bad times or don't remember how good we used to have it.>>11632385I'm sure they do, hence some walmarts and Targets still carrying the line. Collectors make up a small portion of toy sales and toylines like GI Joe wouldn't be stocked if only adults bought them.
>>11632430The Haslab HISS is inarguably more detailed than any version released in the smaller scale, and that's "arguably" the only vehicle in the entire franchise that fucking mattersYou don't even know what you're arguing, half your reasoning for why classified is "failing" (it isn't) is Toys R Us shutting down.
>>11632430Garbage like that toy gives me massive PTSD rage feels. Faggot toys like this clogged my local Walmart shelves for YEARS while they skipped entire waves of GI Joe or didn't bother to restock shelves even as these cheap knock offs like The Corps didn't sell and sat on the shelves unsold and unwanted for YEARS until my Walmart one day out of the blue purged these cheap fucking things off the shelves never to return around the time Covid hit.
>>11632434Where'd I even mention TRU in that post?Doesnt sound like you read anything i said and you're probably some newfag who doesn't know how good we used to ahve it.21st CEntury Toys was able to produce what they did thanks to WAlmart giving them full support. We got CHEAP, high quality toys because Walmart ordered enough units to drive prices waaay down. The fact Hasbro is producing something smaller, with less detail and costs $300 is a sign of poor sales expectationsA company like Hasbro shouldn't get less support from a franchise like GI Joe than 21st Century Toys, but here we are in 2020, with GI Joe getting so little support it's online exclusive through Hasbro's own stores, because retailers can't make money off of GI Joe anymore.
>>11632443Hasbro is not the only one doing crowd funders. And even of the ones they do, the Classified ones are the only ones that fund without fail.They're not even the only ones doing these big-ass, multi hundred-dollar vehicles. Mattel has done these types of crowdfunders too. NECA and Super7 have both put out like, $500 TMNT Turtle vans. Super7 even put out the Thundercats tank.This shit is all highly specific, because retailers don't want to carry a bigass $300-$500 box. It isn't specific to GI Joe.Retailers won't even carry a Lego set over like, $300. Fucking LEGO. You have to specifically go to their store or online shop to get it. You have no defense against the Classified line that cannot be applied to basically every other toyline that makes huge vehicles or multi-hundred dollar toys. In this day and age, it is all specialty shit that you have to go through very niche channels to get.
>>11632406I have no idea, i just went into target and they had a couple of him along with a frag viper on the peg. I dont follow classified news/releases closely so i figured he would be out sometimes soon but since i did want him that's why i snatched him up. Im very glad too considering how rare he supposedly is
>>11632443>A company like Hasbro shouldn't get less support from a franchise like GI Joe than 21st Century Toys, but here we are in 2020, with GI Joe getting so little support it's online exclusive through Hasbro's own stores, because retailers can't make money off of GI Joe anymore.But that's not what's happening.They don't do Haslabs as a last ditch attempt to make something they couldn't make, it's them skimming more money than they'd normally get with less overhead, and specifically with the Joe brand it has worked super well four times.You have the mind of a child.
>>11632451Hasbro shouldn't be crowd funding at all. GI Joe should have full retail support.GI Joes used to be sold in every single store with a toy aisle and then some, because it used to be a mass market toyline popular with the masses.Hasbro has failed their fans and demand has fallen so much for their toys, so now Hasbro is selling less than niche collector toylines that were sold only to adults in the early 00s.Also>comparing a billion dollar toy company like HAsbro to NECA that sells tens of millinos of dollars worth of toysLMAOFucking ridiculous.Nevermind NECA never had any outlets to sell giant 1/10 scale vehicles and all their toys have always been much more expensive. They're tini-tiny companies and they've always produced niche toylines. so the fact you want to compare GI Joe to fucking NECA and Super7 shows how far that Hasbro's GI Joe sales have fallen.ALSO, again, you're forgetting that mass market support drives prices down. the Dragonfly or HISS wouldn't cost $300 if retailers actually supported the GI Joe line like they did pre-2020 when GI Joe was popular. They'd also break down the toy to fit into a smaller box (see my previous image with Skystriker) and wouldn't be packaged with boxed figures. See this massive TIE Fighter? $140 when it came out. Shit's twice as big as anything posted in this thread.It's a miracle that Hasbro has allowed the GI Joe line to continue with how poor sales have been.
>>11632463>GI Joes used to be sold in every single store with a toy aisle and then some, because it used to be a mass market toyline popular with the masses.They are.
>>11632463>Nevermind NECA never had any outlets to sell giant 1/10 scale vehicles and all their toys have always been much more expensive.You sure do like to time warp back to an era that was waaaaaaaay different than things are today, yet you're totally fucking WRONG about this. NECA sold the Predator Blade Fighter and that thing was like two and a half feet long. Also, back in that same era they were charging $15-$20 for most figures. They actually charged LESS than Marvel Legends and other Hasbro figures at the time, at a much larger scale.Those same figures they now charge triple for, whereas Hasbro's 1/12 figures have gone up $5-$8.You just refuse to acknowledge the landscape of not just toy sales, but also all of these types of hobbies have completely been turned on their heads in about the last 8 years or so. You keep pointing back to the 80s, and 90s, and early 2000s and shit, without acknowledging like a dozen world events that lead to retail changes, distribution avenues going away. You're just too stupid to do anything except repeat the same 5 or so talking points over and over again.
>>11632467that's not a giant vehicle, retard. And like all vehicles sold in stores to fit on store shelves, you had to assemble it to make longer.>Also, back in that same era they were charging $15-$20 for most figures. They actually charged LESS than Marvel Legends and other Hasbro figures at the time, at a much larger scale.LOL WAT? Way to prove you know nothing about the past.If you owned any NECA toys from back then, you'd know why their figures cost as little as they did and that's because they didn't have much articulation. Fewer pieces to mold and assemble = lower costs.Nevermind because NECA is so small, they don't react to market conditions as fast as Hasbro does. So NECA figures were more expensive than 6" figures from 2008-2013. In 2013, Black series started at $20 while MLs were still $15. After 2014, NECA started getting better at articulation and prices rose of course. So for the longest time, MLs/BS figures were $19.99 while NECA went from $16 to $35 in the same time frame.Again, this just shows the benefits from being a mass market toy company. NECA prices kept rising and rising, because they're niche and don't sell anywhere close to what Hasbro sells. So the fact that Haslab vehicles cost $300 is because they're selling way worse than before.>without acknowledging like a dozen world eventsSays the guy pretending that half of all Walmarts and Targets no longer carry the GI Joe line and Hasbro can't get any stores to carry GI Joe vehicles.>b-b-but market conditions!2008 was worse and you know what Hasbro did to keep their sales going? Making 1:18 their standard. They kept toys affordable and this is why Hasbro got even more money to try an expand their business by buying up media companies.
Is it possible for a small makeup brush to scratch paint off a figure?
>>11632477Yes, (BIG) BUT it takes a really long time to do the damage OR there's already damage there and the brush is the last straw in taking the paint off.
>>11632443>but here we are in 2020,Wait, what year do you think it is?
>>11632463>GI Joes used to be sold in every single store with a toy aisle and then someThey still do. Every store that sells Black Series or Marvel Legends or Transformers also sells GI Joe. Even the shitty small Walmart near my old house that barely has a toy section. Again, what year do you think it is?
>>11632518Not entirely. GI Joe used to be found in many grocery store chains. Where I live ML, SW, Transformers, and other stuff are still sold in them, but not GI Joe. It's pretty much limited to Walmart, Target, Ross, and Ollie's now.
>>11632463I think I may be able to shed some light on this, I had no idea GI Joe was even a thing anymore, it is one of those "problematic" toys. Toy guns, cowboys & indians, army men etc are not in my local shartmart. My kids have been using all kinds of shit as army men so I went hard looking for something for them for christmas that isnt just recycyled chink plastic destined for the garbage and happened to come upon GI Joe which I thought was done with. I agree they shouldn't be crowd funding either but it is easy money and if all the other bullshit companies can do it, atleast they aren't using kikestarter?
>>116325323 out 4 of my closest Walmarts don't carry GI Joe.Last time i went to my Targets a couple months ago, they were carrying GI Joe, but there's people in these threads (and other places) who have said they stopped carrying the line almost a year ago.The TRU at Macys never carried the line. My comic shops don't carry the line.My local drug stores all used to carry GI Joe when it was 1:18. Not anymore.>>11632517in the 2020s*>>11632538I think it's funny if what you say is true. Anti-war sentiment after the Iraq War Part 2 didn't kill GI Joe. Obama's campaign about stopping the wars didn't kill GI Joe. But virtue signaling during one of the most peaceful times in recent history killed it? Comedy.Also, for a giant corporation like Hasbro, crowd funding is like giving a millionaire a dollar for his time. Corporations generally kill things if they go under a certain limit or not growing fast enough, even if it's generating profits a hundred times over.It's why GI Joe was killed off in the 90s, because despite experiencing its second biggest year in 1992 or 1991, they wanted to get Toy Biz's XMen amount of revenue, so they killed the 3.75" line and created 4.5" preposed XTREME GI Joes.They did the same thing with GI Joe in the 00s. They killed off the GI Joe vs Cobra line to make 8" anime style figures that cost 2x more. The JvC line was super popular for the first couple of years, but things started to cool off, and Walmart asked Hasbro make a higher price point toyline.They love killing the golden goose, yet the Classified has drastically been gutted by stores dropping the line and been clearanced off every year since the movie line bombed, and Hasbro has allowed it to drag it's entrails around for the past two years without mercy killing it.
>>11632538The big HASLAB vehicles would be lot cheaper if they'd lose the light-up interior gimmicks as well as stuff like "blast-effect" gimmicks for rockets/cannons. That's what I'm hoping for with the arctic HISS. All that extra shit does is make you need more baggies to store it in.
>>11632532>Not entirely. GI Joe used to be found in many grocery store chains. Where I live ML, SW, Transformers, and other stuff are still sold in themWhich stores are these, I'd love to see evidence of this. I've never seen anyone buy a Marvel Legends at Kroger.
>>11632546>3 out 4 of my closest Walmarts don't carry GI Joe.Same here. The one that does has shit selection from early summer, and I doubt that they ever got in battle armor CC, Crystal Ball, and I'm completely sure that they didn't get Ghost Viper. >Last time i went to my Targets a couple months ago, they were carrying GI Joe, but there's people in these threads (and other places) who have said they stopped carrying the line almost a year ago.I was there a month ago, and they had a decent selection. It was better than Walmart's selection that ranged from non-existent to old stock about to ship off to Ollie's.
>>11632553A local grocery store chain called HEB.
>>11632546>Anti-war sentiment after the Iraq War Part 2 didn't kill GI Joe. Obama's campaign about stopping the wars didn't kill GI Joe. But virtue signaling during one of the most peaceful times in recent history killed it? Comedy.I am more explaining a lot of the mentality, also I live in a rural area and I have 2 walmarts within an hour of me, no targets, no comic shops etc. I am not a collector so yeah for the past 20 years I never even thought of GI Joe, but I have kids now, and by them not putting them in the shartmart etc they are out of sight and out of mind. Excuse me for not being a fucking geek for the past 20 years and buying GI Joe for my own autistic pleasures instead of just wanting my kids to have some sweet ass army men to play with.
>>11632554Genuinely sounds like bad distribution in your area. The only Walmart by me that doesn't carry GI Joes in their toy section also doesn't carry MLs or Black Series regularly either. Sometimes they get stuff, but rarely. Every other local establishment that has a toy aisle that stocks other Hasbro products like ML also carry GI Joe. I live in one of the biggest cities in the country though, so there's that.
>>11632487I think it was because I used an eyebrow brush for the eyes, which doesn't feel as soft. The pictures I took of the figure before cleaning were from afar and with a shitty phone camera, so I can't tell if that defect was always there.
>>11632477Use a fine-tipped razor like an X-acto knife to scrape it off.
>>11632553No but hasbro did have a deal with walgreens of all places, and it sucked.
>>1163244321st went out of business because of poor sales.
>>11632348Ugh, gonna have to start checking BOTH walmarts now, during xmas season. I get home sick for various reasons but for toy collecting it really hurts. Where i used to live i could hit 4 walmarts and two targets in a little over an hour but now it takes over an hour just to check one target and one super mega walmart.
>>11632653Their toys were cooler than shit though. Their aircraft in GI Joe O-ring scale were especially awesome. It's a shame.
>>11632546you're retarded.
>>11631198
>>11632675All you do is shit out insults. Is that why you come here?
>>11632771it's all that happens when you post your dumb shit about how classified isn't on store shelves and the line is failing and haslabs are a sign of hasbro dying instead of being jewishyou're simply retarded
>>11632771Why do YOU come here, I have never seen a single person agree with you. What are you getting by posting here and not a place where people actually agree with you or like you?
Got my viper. Looks cool. He comes with 2 knives!
>>11632671I miss the days of walking through toy r us as a kid and seeing Ultimate Soldier and other 21st century stuff lining some of the shelves
>>11632791At least I make constructive conversation while politely disagreeing. All you do is shit on people. >>11632809It's like they broke the industry for that scale with all of their 1/18 aircraft because no one has wanted to touch it again. Those really were awesome. The figures also had above-average details too. Their only weakness was there were no unique identity characters. They were all just nameless soldiers and pilots.
>>11632813It doesn't matter how polite you are when you're still wrong.
>>11632778I did bitch about the lack of Ghost Viper on shelves, but the rest of your rant isn't on any of my posts. I think the opposite, and think that Classified is doing fine in spite of the flops that end up on clearance. I can easily see the line still going for at least a couple of more years. And not liking people's complaints or discussing justifies shitposts like >>11632675>>11632274>>11632015>>11631976>>11630670,......?
>>11632816How am I wrong? Once again you fail to back up or elaborate, and just shitpost.
>classified is dead, it'a not even on store shelves anymore!both of these statements you have repeatedly made are incorrect
>>11632474>So the fact that Haslab vehicles cost $300 is because they're selling way worse than before.Your brain is breakdancing in your head with all of the mental gymnastics you're trying to pull with this. You're trying to convince people that pretty much the only crowdfunding campaigns that consistently fund is somehow the one that is doing worst. That's across Hasbro, Mattel, Super7 and all these other companies that put out crowdfunders, Classified is the only one that consistently succeeds.On top of that, your claim about about NECA and Super7 charging $500for Turtle vans because they're tiny little companies doesn't even make sense when little ass Bobby Vala can put out his soccer mom battle wagon for $200. Also, none of these come with figures except the classified vehicles, which means the value is far more lopsided toward those. Literally none of the other crowdfunders hit these values outside of like, Unicron and maybe one or two of the Marvel ones.>2008 was worse and you know what Hasbro did to keep their sales going? Making 1:18 their standard. They kept toys affordable and this is why Hasbro got even more money to try an expand their business by buying up media companies.Uh, yeah. That was LITERALLY my entire point. You talk about how "If this was the 80s, or 90s Classified would have failed out." By your OWN admission, companies temper expectations and change things in reaction to the markets. The market is NOT at a high point right now, so trying to argue what coulda, shoulda, woulda happened in the 80s and 90s is fucking stupid because it isn't the 80s or 90s anymore and expectations have changed.
>>11632840From what I understand the only reason vala was able to put the mom-mobile out as cheap as he did is that revzani paid for tooling as advertisement.
>>11632474>dude there were way more video games 20 years ago when you could make them for 10,000 dollars instead of 10,000,000>the industry is dead!
>>11632840Why do you paraphrase something that the person you're replying to never said or insinuated? It's super immature. Also, your overly condescending tone is pretty childish too. Consider working on that.
>>11632855>didn't address anything that was said>will continue to proclaim classified as dying every day for another five years
>>11632860I'm not even the person you're arguing with. I'm just pointing out this childlike behavior. You're even doing it now.
>>11632875not an argumentunless you also believe the line is "dying" like that "other" guy, there is absolutely no reason to critique the tone of a counterpoint you agree with particularly not herethe line isn't dead, end of story
>>11632560It's not poor distribution, because the Walmarts took off the peg identification for GI Joes long ago. Stores don't take names off of pegs if they continue selling a toy, they just fill in the space with something else until they get stock again.
>>11632887I don't believe the line is dying like that other guy. Once again, why do you paraphrase shit no one actually said?
>>11632892>why do you paraphrasewhy wouldn't I? there is a character limit on posts and that retarded faggot loser (sorry to offend you on his behalf since you're so concerned with decorum) writes a novel every time he posts, and quoting the whole would be pointless in several waysstop jumping into an argument with nothing to add other than >stop being mean
>>11632913I'm not asking why you paraphrase in general. I'm asking why you paraphrase points that weren't actually made. It's almost like you're deliberately trying to put words in people's mouths in order to have an excuse to argue. Like just now, you assumed not only was I the guy you were arguing with, but my stance on the health of the line, when it was in fact the opposite of what you assumed and in agreement with your point. However, because you conduct yourself like a shit bag, you tried to argue for essentially no reason. Even when someone agrees with your point, you make up some convoluted excuse to attack and argue with them. Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but how you conduct yourself goes a long way into convincing someone of your point. Regardless of whatever empirical data you provide, if you act like a complete ass hole, no one will agree with you. I sincerely hope you're either trolling. If you're really like this in real life, I genuinely sympathize for the people that are forced to interact with you. You may think it's cool to act like a big Internet tough guy and behave like a piece of shit, but it isn't, and it just makes you look like a child. Take some of this criticism to heart and rethink your life choices. God be with you.
>>11632923>paraphrase points that weren't madewhen I say he says the line is dying or dead I am paraphrasing such posts as:>>11632430>>11632463in which the point is being made that Classified figures aren't even on store shelves anymore, the line is bad healthyNeither of which are true statementsBut it's not you making those posts, so obviously none of this matters to you other than that I've said retard a few times to this "other" man
>>11632923Why are you pretending to be someone else while no longer even disgusting your post style?
>>11632927It's not even your language. Clearly I could a fuck how vulgar you are. It's when you come up with random shit just to argue with people. But whatever bro you do you. You don't need to justify your behavior to me, I'm just point out that no one wants to agree with some little cunt that argues like a literal seven year old does.
>>11632932>why do you do this?>here's why>WHATEVER bro, you don't have to justify yourself to methen don't ask, faggotand don't ask me what/who I'm paraphrasing and then run away from the point like a little bitch when I point to more than one example of what I was paraphrasingmiss me with this "my dad molested me" energy, fag
>>11632930I'm not the one arguing that the line is dead. I've in fact, argued against it earlier in the thread by saying it seems like it's a distribution issue. >>11632934I gotta ask, don't you get tired of getting into endless arguments with half the board? Must be exhausting. Anyway, I apologize for calling you out on your shitty attitude. I can tell it really bothers you. Anyway, I hope you rethink some of your choices in how you behave. In God's word we trust.
>>11632937>half the boardI was only arguing with one poster until you decided I was being too r-rated for your liking, and that superseded an actual on-topic discussion in your mind, for one where you whine about saying "retard"Frankly I've seen this kind of autism sporadically from people on this site for 20 years, and I will never understand it Everyone person who ever called you a faggot assuredly is not commonly calling people a faggot in real life, interpersonal exchanges, because the latter form of interaction is not anonymous nor as generally frivolous as even non-anonymous internet actionsThe idea that that you cannot separate the two is you waving a flag that reads: "I'm subhuman and my brain nor grasp of general logic does not work properly".Fag.
>>11632945>I was only arguing with one poster until you decided I was being too r-rated for your liking.This is exactly what I mean brother. I literally said I don't care about your vulgarity, just that you act like a fucking tool and it makes no one want to agree with you. There's a difference between being vulgar and acting like a dweeb. But go ahead and make up reasons to argue with me. You're just proving my point. It seems to really bug you lol.
>>11632950Except your reasoning for that was also faggyYou claimed I was paraphrasing the retard incorrectly and then completely disregarded that aspect of your argument when I linked to some of the posts I was paraphrasing You don't a have a point anymore, other than (something else I've already accused of you saying) >stop being rude!
>>11632855I'm assuming you quoted the wrong person, because my post cut parts of his post and I responded to them. There was no paraphrasing or insinuating. They were LITERAL parts of his post.
>>11632945>I was only arguing with one posterAlso, are you really going to pretend you haven't been arguing with random people all week about various topics in the Marvel General? You must be really bored to keep doing it all week. Anyway, I'm gonna go smoke and then play some Halo 3. Don't spend too much time stressing about this bud.
>>11632957I don't need to pretend that. I don't post on /toy/ at all except for Joe generals.But go ahead and call me subjectanon or whatever your boogieman is right now, I guess it was schizophrenia this time and not autism.
>>11632961You mean you AREN'T subjectanon? Goddamn. You're very similar.
>>11632962You say that about everyone.
>>11632963Now who's accusing who of being a boogieman? Pot calling the kettle black right here. I rest my case. At this point you're subjectanon-lite.
>>11632972the line still isn't dead, and you're still schizophrenicMaybe I should lurk the marvel threads if you sperg out constantly there, tooAnd I still don't even know who/what subjectanon is despite you mentioning him for years at this point
>>11632974>the line still isn't deadNever claimed it was. This instance that I did is why I mistook you for subjectanon. He does the same thing. >And I still don't even know who/what subjectanon is despite you mentioning him for years at this pointYet you knew exactly who I thought you were. Funny. Have a good night anon.
>>11632980>you knew exactly what I was going to say after seeing me say it in these threads 100 timesyesyou should work on that
>>11632985I thought you said you only use the GI Joe threads.
>>11632988I do.You do it here all the time.Subjectanon, necanon, there's one other, it's like athena or something you say all the timeYou're fucking insane
>>1163265321st Century's prices started going too high after Walmart ditched them. According to various posters online, they got dropped due to Walmart no longer wanting to sell collector toys, but there was also rumor that ToysRUs carrying the line too got Walmart pissed off. Either way, without Walmart's support, and despite more stores carrying the toyline (like Suncoast), they cut back on the amount of stuff they were producing and sales eventually dropped due to higher prices.Walmart is a HUGE boon for any company, so when you lose support... that's only a bad thing. Even today. And this is how you know how badly the GI Joe Classified line is doing for Hasbro, because it seems half of Walmarts no longer carrying the line.>>11632852There's a gigantic difference between fair prices and costs going way off scale. This is why NECA actually gained more followers, despite prices going much higher than before. They kept adding value: more and more articulation. Whereas something like Haslab only costs as much as it does because they're only seling 10k-20k instead of 100k-500k, thus costing 2-4x more>>11632583Short brushes like that are bad. Never use stubby bristles.>>11632923>I'm asking why you paraphrase points that weren't actually made. It's almost like you're deliberately trying to put words in people's mouths in order to have an excuse to argueSup fellow college educated anon?You're arguing with a third worlder from the WH40k thread, who has a grudge against me because i have a problem with Joytoy using brittle plastics and bad paint jobs. He has shit up countless threads because he'll shitpost anywhere he thinks i might post. So usually he picks fights with random people who can type longer than 2 sentneces. He's extremely contrarian, nitpicking when he can't disagree with me and even contradicts himself if it allows the argument to continue.So now he's pulled you in in helping shit the place up with his endless contrarian arguments.
>>11632992Sorry, I'm not "warhammeranon" either
>>11632990Ah, just so you know >>11632992 is subjectanon. His calling people third worlders is a clear giveaway. Also, randomly bringing up JoyTiy out of nowhere.
>>11632846>From what I understand the only reason vala was able to put the mom-mobile out as cheap as he did is that revzani paid for tooling as advertisement.There's that and the fact that NECA pays a licensing fee plus royalties on every unit sold to Nickelodeon for TMNT.
>What do you actually get out of posting here >>11632813>A-AT LEAST I MAKE POLITE CON-CONVERSATION You didn't answer the question, you just accused me of being the boogeyman of "all anons who disagree with me are the same person" because this is the first (you) from you I've gotten
>>11632993Post a male Cobra figure holding a gun touching an electric socket to prove it.
>>11632992>badly the GI Joe Classified line is doing for HasbroRight, lol.
So when is that Classified Arctic HISS coming out? It was showed off a month ago and yet I hear no updates on it.
>>11633108It probably won't even come out until maybe late next year. Maybe later. It is supposed to go up for PO as a made to order thing. I imagine they might make it come out somewhere in the range of when the Snowcat comes out.
>>11633108>>11633111I'm feeling that it'll be sooner than that so die-hard fans can get both one after another. I expect it around early summer.
>>11631198I couldn't find any of the ghost vipers in my area, so I have CB on my villain shelf. On a side note, how do y'all deal with dust? I dust my shelves at least once a week, but I find rearranging them tedious.
>>11633315>On a side note, how do y'all deal with dust? I dust my shelves at least once a week,All you can do is dust them, or get a shelf with a door, that's what I eventually got.>but I find rearranging them tedious.I find this fun, however
>>11633315I don't deal with dust. I don't display anything. I keep it in plastic storage containers for the reason of not having to deal with that headache. For those who display, more power to them.
What does everyone think of #161 snake eye and polar bear? Would rather get one of the snake eye with timber wolf ones but they are fucking expensive. Need a Joe with a pet other than a dog.
I know the Rattler Baroness is probably the best version of the character so far but fuck me if the Crimson Strike isn't a worthy second place. Love this figure.
>>11632463The Force Awakens basically killed the hope of Black Series vehicles. The Black Series Tie Fighter was a very impressive toy with the horrible misfortune of being based on the worst Tie Fighter, and because of some poor foresight, they couldn't just repaint it gray and sell it as a classic Tie because of the huge "wing donuts" that JJ Abrams slapped on the Nu-Order Tie Fighter. The thing died on shelves with Toys R Us along with all the other big Star Wars vehicle and that was basically the beginning of the end.No matter how bad you might feel like things are with GI Joe-- supply chain issues, vehicles being expensive or sold as Haslab exclusives, etc. Take joy in the fact that GI Joe Classified actually has the healthiest vehicle ecosystem of any toy line in its scale, and we even have third party offerings to supplement it like the ones from Ramen. My GI Joe vehicle fleet is larger than the one I had when I was a child and that's saying something considering how much bigger the vehicles are.For whatever distribution issues GI Joe has, I think the toy line is in a way better place than Star Wars or Marvel right now.
>>11634220Wait was that guy saying GI Joe should be releasing vehicles on the same level as the hype of the return of Star Wars with 2015 prices?
>>11632463>ALSO, again, you're forgetting that mass market support drives prices down. the Dragonfly or HISS wouldn't cost $300Hey autistic fag, you're forgetting that they still don't "need" to charge that much. Hasbro just gets away with overcharging for "specialty" items like Haslabs most of the time (or EVERY time in the case in of Classified) because of Haslab branding and FOMO.The same thing could be accomplished at 40% mark down in price, they sell more units, but they wouldn't make as much from it.
>>11634457>Hasbro just gets away with overcharging for "specialty" items like Haslabs most of the time (or EVERY time in the case in of Classified) because of Haslab branding and FOMO.Economics 101:The more you produce something, the lower the per-unit production cost is, thus the break-even cost is lower.Inversely, the less you produce of something, the higher the per-unit production cost is, thus the break-even cost is higher. It's called "economies of scale." HASLABS cost more because of their lower production numbers. It really is that simple.
>>11634490Except they double the fucking jewish profit threshold they set for themselves every time due to demandWhich means they could charge 100 dollars for the Rattler or whatever, but because the moneymen don't like the ultimate backend take at that price-point, they are thus WILLING to sell LESS to make slightly MORE per unit, even if the lower price model could and likely would exceed the differenceAgain, this NOT a sign of Classified health as a toyline, but rather Hasbro's jewishnessI can repeat this 10 more times but autistic people who hate the scale and have decided to doompost every day until the line dies (another five years at the soonest) will never try to understand the truth of this.
>>11634220I don't disagree with you on Disney's Star Wars killing interest for fans, but >For whatever distribution issues GI Joe has, I think the toy line is in a way better place than Star Wars or Marvel right now.This is completely ridiculous. Again, probably half of all Walmarts currently carry the GI Joe line. Every single WAlmart near me has Star wars and Marvel figures, AND each franchise has sub-lines.>>11634441The TIE fighter is gigantic becuse it's a full scale vehicle, hence its price. GI Joe vehicles are half sized, hence the Dragonfly heli being the same size as 21st Century's 1:18 Cobra helicopter.>>11634457You don't seem to understand how producing products for retail works. The guy who responded to you is right>Again, this NOT a sign of Classified health as a toyline, You keep ignoring the fact that everything GI Joe could have been released at retail. These Haslab products exist because of the health of the toyline: retailers aren't ordering products. Instead of making 50,000 - 500,000, they're producing 15k-20k.That's selling poorly and it's why the prices are skyhigh for Haslabs.Because you don't understand some basic concepts on business, it's no wonder you don't think the GI Joe line is in such a bad place. You're like someone who thinks because someone is still alive, that they're winning the fight against cancer, despite that person being hooked up to a ventilator and 90lbs.Hasbro can keep the line going as long as they keep lowering sales expectations, because they defintely did after the movie line bombed... and again when everything was showing up on clearance and ross.... and again when walmart stopped carrying the line in half their stores. In any other decade, the Classified line would have been killed off.
>>11634573>after the movie line bombedClassified is the Snake Eyes movie line, and they recovered immediately from releasing a wave of a figures centered around that movie.>retailers aren't ordering Whenever a Walmart has the ghost vipers, they have 50 of themOnline outlets juice up the haslabs numbers toward the end of the campaigns by 100s because they'll just sell them at a hundred dollar markup knowing the demand is there.If you would like to post actual number to dispute the good health of the brand, go ahead.But as we've established in your retard fag argument that includes such easily disproven nuggets as "they're not on store shelves" and "nobody's buying the figures" then just shut the fuck up already and keep spamming pictures super7 or hiya or any of the other shit that isn't actually selling
>>11634573I never really liked the idea of Star Wars toy vehicles being 1/1 scale, at least not for conventional action figures. For micro lines where the figures are tiny it works fine, but when you have to make the vehicles giant so they can be "screen accurate" they lose a lot of their charm. And the Vintage Collection Millenium Falcon is still out of scale with the figures, you just don't notice until you put a figure next to one of the interior doors. Same goes for the AT-AT, if the Vintage Collection version was actually in-scale it would be hundreds of dollars. I'll almost always prefer Kenner-scale vehicles over Vintage Collection scale ones.
>>11634588>recovered immediately>after most of the movie line was clearanced off>stores giving it half the shelf space afterward>recoveredSure is Black Knight from Monty Python.>Whenever a Walmart has the ghost vipers, they have 50 of them... seriously, you have no idea of how retail works. 50 is normally what a toy that has shelf space normally sells at stores like Walmart. This is how mass market toys are able to normally sell 100,000-5 million units every quarter. Nevermind you're only basing this on a single photo and the only walmart that (out of the four closest to me) carries the GI Joe line doesn't have that many on the shelves.>Online outlets juice up the haslabs numbers toward the end of the campaigns by 100s because they'll just sell them at a hundred dollar markup knowing the demand is there.So basically you're saying that Haslab would sell worse, because scalpers buy it instead of actual fans. Also, are you implying that because of scalpers, that that's the reason Haslab prices are high? Because that'd be hilariously retarded. >easily disproven nuggets You haven't disproven anything. Everyone has seen the diminished presense of the GI Joe line ever since the movie line bombed.Anyone with a brain knows that losing half of your support from one of the biggest retailers online is a bad thing. Everyone knows that being able to find every single wave at outlet stores like Ross means the toyline bombed. Everyone can see Haslab's sales numbers.But here you are, telling me because I don't have a guy's white blood cell count, that he's not dying at the hospice his family keeps him at because they can't manage the ventilator themselves.
>>11634618>You haven't disproven anything. Everyone has seen the diminished presense of the GI Joe line ever since the movie line bombed.no>Anyone with a brain knows that losing half of your support from one of the biggest retailers online is a bad thing.But they're also at targets and walmarts and any other place that sells action figuresand no more pie in the sky about what albertsons was selling in the fucking 90s or walking down aisles at TRU>Everyone knows that being able to find every single wave at outlet stores like Ross means the toyline bombed. Everyone can see Haslab's sales numbers.Show me a picture of anything other than tomax, xamot, and CGs (and whatever else was part of that one wave) at Ross>But here you are, telling me because I don't have a guy's white blood cell count,lmao >that he's not dying at the hospice his family keeps him at because they can't manage the ventilator themselves.Prove the line is dead. You still haven't.
>>11634599I agree with you up to a point.By being half sized, you increase the playability of a toy. You can easily hold the old X Wing and TIE Fighter in each hand and have a dog fight with them only 1 foot apart.Once you start needing two hands to hold something? That's just too large to play with with your hands. That works fine for playsets and some vehicles, which you can push on the ground, but not planes. It's not as fun when your toy becomes a struggle to hold.This is why i never bought any of the BBI or 21st Century helicopters. I kick myself for not realizing that they'd cost $500 in the future, but at the time, i had a hundred chances to buy them when they were only $20-65. Well, i did buy BBi's Little Bird, because as the name states: it's little. I also bought bbi's full 1:18 scale Abrams, which i think is the max size a vehicle should be. I even bought another Abrams, because it was $25.The AT AT is something I'd love, but i have my two hand rule.I don't see the point in owning 1:12 vehicles because they're all two hand sized. With the space i can give to a 1:12 vehicle, i can instead use that to buy 2 more actual 1:18 scale Bradleys or 4 half sized 1:18 GI Joe vehicles.
>>11634620>and no more pie in the sky about what albertsons was selling in the fucking 90s80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s. I managed to buy some rare Renegade and Pursuit of Cobra figures thanks to searching drug stores, because they all sold out in Walmarts, Targets, and ToysRUs.Remember when GI Joes waves actually sold out? No, you don't, because you're a third worlder who's never seen a GI Joe toyline in store shelves and are just making up contrarian bullshit to shitpost.I've been waiting for you to respond to >>11633028 but i knew you wouldn't, you don't want to admit you're the Joytoy shill seeking revenge because i don't think $140 1:22 (that barely stand taller than $20 MCfarlane DC figures) Warhammer figures should have shitty paint and use brittle plastics.
>>11634637>remember whenYeah, it was like a month ago, my walmart had like 6 Crystal Balls, I got one of those then, and two of the cops, they had like 10. and then a week later when I was considering getting one more of each, they were all gone.
>>11634220On one hand it's kind of absurd to think that a smaller subline with no mass media support would be the one pumping out $60-100+ vehicles consistently, especially over the likes of IP merch juggernauts like Marvel or Star Wars. But at the same time, G.I. Joe just has, and always had, *better* vehicles then almost any other toyline out there. With the ARAH line, the vehicles were just as much characters as the action figures. Most Star Wars vehicles are larger star fighters that can't carry many figures or huge space ships too big to make proper toys of, and Marvel's vehicular options are limited to like three things outside of motorcycles. But G.I. Joe has 4x4s and tanks and completely wacky smaller jets and aircraft and mobile cannons and boats that can fit both smaller price points while having tons of figure interactivity. Where something like a Black Series X-Wing or Tie Fighter will be a huge set piece that can at best work with two figures, G.I. Joe can drop a dune buggy with seats for three and steps for more, or roll out something crazy like a full on Mech Suit that's an action figure in and of itself. Having multiple price points also helps the variety of the line as they can drop smaller things like Trouble Bubbles or Jet Packs and do larger high ticket items like the Haslabs. I do wish their mid $100 range stuff got more releases though. Something like a Moccasin or even a STUN could fit at that price point, or an Armadillo or hell even a Wolverine (it really wasn't a big vehicle).
>>11634632I've got that Abrams too. For me that became the Joes' main battle tank, and the Patriot Grizzly became Cobra's because a looks like a slightly more sci-fi M1 and it's just as big.
>>11634670Man, i remember wanting the Patriot Grizzly so bad but then fucking BBI+Unimax had theirs for like $10 more BUT with better paint AND not having the crew having their torso sticking out all the time.Alos, no dumb electronics to get in the way, which is something i've always found annoying with kid toys. Really takes away from their playability.>>11634666>On one hand it's kind of absurd to think that a smaller subline with no mass media support would be the one pumping out $60-100+ vehicles consistently, especially over the likes of IP merch juggernauts like Marvel or Star Wars? Marvel doesn't really do vehicles, but Star Wars has vehicles and playsets every year on a far more regular basis across 3 toylines.Here's one of their playsets from last year. The current one is the Streets of Mos Eisley, which can link up with the Catina haslab.And Hasbro has been a rip lately, considering you can still buy 1:18 diecast cars for ~$20. Mattel releases vehicles all the time for ~$30. Jazwares does too. Lots of companies produce quality stuff for much cheaper than Hasbro, but is that only because there's been such a decline in sales or just Hasbro ripping people off? >>11634651are you the third worlder who didnn't want to respond to asking for proof you're not?
>>11634632>This is why i never bought any of the BBI or 21st Century helicopters. I kick myself for not realizing that they'd cost $500 in the future, but at the time, i had a hundred chances to buy them when they were only $20-65. Well, i did buy BBi's Little Bird, because as the name states: it's little.You really missed out, because on the only ones that broke your two hand rule were the Black Hawk and Apache. Imagine wanting Wild Bill not to have a Super Cobra or Huey gunship, lol
>>11634766>Back to being an overly combative dipshit who's paraphrasing shit no one actually said. Don't you get tired of arguing with the whole board? It must get exhausting.
>>11634849The Cobra is a few inches from being 3 feet long. Way too long.That Abrams is about 20 inches long, which is what i said is my max size. Same with that Soviet vehicle. That tomahawk/eaglehawk in the back? I have to break it down to store it, because the rotors are too long to store. The Cobra is even longer and dainty.I don't think toys should be a chore to store or display. And i have the Street Fighter version of the Dragonfly. A half sized Cobra that's fun to swoosh around.I've thought about buying the Huey though, the affordable model version, because i like troop transports. It's not swooshable, thanks to its length, but i wouldn't mind it being part of center stage/stationary kind of diorama story piece, because it's a troop transport.Someone posted a "review" of it in the 1:18 general, which kinda puts me off though.Also, the Blackhawk was another one that was also so fucking cheap for like over a decade. You could have bought the cheapo ELITE HEROES or whatever it was called version for like $40 for the longest time at the KB/TRU stores. It didn't have the BBI detail or paint job, but it was still great to look at and probably more durable.>>11634862It's no more than 5 shitposters who want to show me where i butthurt them. AT least two of them are third worlders, one of which tries to samefag because you can see all his double posts when his posts got deleted every melt down he's had this past month.You'd be easier to keep track if you guys would post your electrical sockets like i asked.
>>11634910>It's no more than 5 shitposters who want to show me where i butthurt themLol, lmao even. Subby, you've become a board boogieman for a reason you argue with so many different people. You've been doing it for years. Adjust your personality and maybe you wouldn't get into an argument eight out of ten times you post.
>>11635148>>11635150>>11635152actually a great chopper that's swooshable, but i think i only saw it once or twice before it disappeared. Never got a chance to see a review or impression to find out how many figures can fit inside it.
>>11635279 Two in the front, two in the back. - not actual seats with leg room either. But it has the "appearance" of holding more. Mine didn't have one of the rotor engine intake vents (black plastic thingy._ I try to shoot around it. I wish it had better pods / racks for the missile pods so I could get a stretcher on.
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>>11635459if i knew what i knew now, i'd have bought that when it was still cheap.Great helicopter that's not too small and not too big, so it works as a transport and attack helicopter.
Seeing as I'll never have the rattler Baroness and a potential new one appears to be non-existant until 2042, I'm going to try and get the Inart Catwoman as my femme fatale character.
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