Whoops, forgot the previous thread >>11618394

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Man these figuarts gamerverse figures suck so bad. Only thing that’s better compared to legends is the articulation. Cyclops looks like ass but I gave him a pass because it was the first figure. Then Spidey was shown and although it did not resemble mvc I also gave it a pass. But then they show this anorexic wolverine that makes the legends look godly in comparison, STRIKE 3 I’VE HAD IT. FUCK YOU BANDSHIT YOU’RE FIGURES ARE ASS AND I WILL NOT BE PURCHASING.

JADAAAAA

STOOOOOORRRMM

GET IN ON THIS GAMERVERSE SHIT AND MY LIFE IS YOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUURRRRRSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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We were told Hellfire Gala Spider-Man wouldn't sell out, because he wasn't a normal Spider-Man. He was a weird Spider-Man, from the "NUU COMICS" and that people wouldn't want him. But he is gone. Spider-Man always sells.

Oh wait he's still up, he just can't be found easily with Walmart's broken search feature that is only intended to show you what they want and not what you search for. Ok.

>>11627606
Are you doing ok bruh? Walmart's site has always been like that, most retail sites are. Not sure why you're lamenting about this now int he year of our lord two thousand and twenty five.

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>>11627612
They didn't used to be like that.

>>11627613
How new are you?

>>11627613
Also, why'd you repost this image?

>>11627614
Old enough to remember the days when if you searched for the exact name of the toy on Walmart.com it'd come up rather than having to have some "influencer" feeding you direct links to the toy they get paid for on twitter

>>11627613
Fake fan

>>11627635
If you don't love the restrictions of greedy retailers, can you really call yourself a fan of toys and action figures, a heavily consumerist endeavor? Some of us speak out against exclusives, but we should love them, for they help our retailer overlords promote themselves through their toy offerings.

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>>11627627
I never had Walmart's search function work consistently. Nor Target's and Gamestop's. Amazon is a tad better, but still can be shitty. I just use google. I was able to pull up the listing you referred to in like 2 seconds. Sounds like user error.

>>11627649
Stop playing the victim just because it took you a few seconds longer to find a toy on Walmart's website. Holy fucking shit, you plebian retards come up with the dumbest fucking shit in the world to kevetch about. No wonder no one posts their toys anymore.

>>11627689
Did you know Mystique is now Not A Villain in the comics? Listening to summaries of modern Xmen arcs makes me wonder why people don't embrace change in these characters and still cling to the 90s and earlier depictions of these characters, dubbing those the "iconic looks" and eschewing all others. But even what is "iconic" changes, as no one says first appearance Rogue, Cyclops or Beast are "iconic". When will the wheel turn on these characters?

>>11627699
Iconic is really in the eye of the beholder. I personally think the Jim Lee X-Men is their most iconic look, meanwhile someone older than me could think that the Claremont All New All Different are the iconic looks. Another person born in the 2000s may consider the Astonishing looks the iconic looks. I'd argue certain characters have iconic looks for every era. Iron Man for instance is always changing his costume, but then Cap or Spider-Man keep their costumes relatively the same throughout their histories.

>>11627699
comics have been shit for 30 years its no wonder people reject change lol

>>11627699
>Listening to summaries of modern Xmen arcs makes me wonder why people don't embrace change in these characters
They read them, for one.

>>11627715
If they thought they were bad, why would they read the modern comics?

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>>11627613
She looks like a """witch""" who do tricks for 20 bucks and a cig

>>11627723
Sunk cost and X-Men readers have always had higher than average tolerance for trash even for big two standards.

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>>11627699
>Did you know Mystique is now Not A Villain in the comics?
The Baroness from GI Joe is in the same situation. Don't now if they ran out of ideas or just want popular characters to be on the good side, I just know that this dumb armor sucks and being good take out her sex appeal, which is really her whole character, she just like any Joe or Cobra has zero depth, don't know why change now.

>>11627723
I've been reading Amazing Spider-Man regularly since I was 12. I'm 36 now. Despite how terrible it's been for literally decades, I still read it. I still feel obligated to keep up with it, I've been reading it my entire adult life. I stopped paying for it though like at least a decade ago though. Those fags will get my money when they write something good.

>>11627731
They do this shit all the time in comics. People are constantly switching allegiances and sides. Remember when Flint Marko was an Avenger? The type of people who get upset at status quo changes like this are the same idiots who thought Hydra Cap would become the permanent status quo. I wish the general public had higher than a room temperature IQ.

>>11627752
Habits are prevalent in the human species eh? Collecting action figures may also be a habit like this, that people do long after it stops giving them joy.

>>11627755
Indeed, but it doesn't make less awful. Nobody like the ones you mentioned either, for me the real problem is not people thinking this will be new status quo, but the fact that people "hate buy" this crap, so the comic industry keep churning this shit, since it will always sells.

Although I've been part of the problem of late, I read that white Black Panther, at least I didn't paid kek. And yes, it's fucking awful.

>>11627784
I wonder why people can't appreciate character figure looks from newer comics though. Like Cyclops has a new uniform in the newer comics. It's still Cyclops and if it looks cool, why not buy it? Why does it always have to be Jim Lee?

>>11627817
I actually really liked Cyclops Krakoa era suit so I got the figure of it despite not really liking the Krakoa storyline after Hickman left.

>>11627699
>Listening to summaries of modern Xmen arcs makes me wonder why people don't embrace change
Because if you actually read the stories you'd learn one important thing. THE STORIES ARE BAD NOW! A lot of changes have been embraced by fans. Just not the crappy ones.

>>11627784
Tom Brevoort is very much on the platform of outrage farming. He's quoted as saying angry fans are buying but it's been less and less as time goes on. DC's far from where they were at their peak but they're actually doing a decent job of things. After the hit piece they did on Wally West they went well out of the way to sweep that shit under the rug, meanwhile marvel refuses to let any of their fans win.

>>11627817
>Like Cyclops has a new uniform in the newer comics. It's still Cyclops
That's the funny part, he isn't. He's a clone brainwashed by the cult to believe in resurrection through cloning (to say nothing of the rightclops supremacist crap from before that), like every mutant who took part in Krakoa unless stated otherwise. Or poor X-23, who got cloned while the "original" was declared dead only for her to return as Old Woman Laura (and shortly get killed off as the character was beyond repair). Not hard to see why only secondary media connected with people since Lee.

>>11627836
What led to this madness of Krakoa clone reviving Xmen? Why did they move in this direction? To make it easier to have crazy character deaths and have them come back next issue good as new?

>>11627817
>Why does it always have to be Jim Lee?
That's simply how nostalgia works. I imagine most ML buyers were mid-'80s to mid-'90s comic readers, as well as viewers of the original animated series. As long as they're the predominant consumer of the line those designs will get the most love.

Or they're like those retards who whine about imports not scaling with their MLs, and anything not just to their liking has to be bitched about.

>>11627847
The people in charge of the X-office are out of their goddamn minds.

>>11627848
I doubt the audience that came after in the 00s is large enough to sustain the Marvel Legends line.

>>11627854
Probably not.

>>11627854
I don't think that generation likes action figures much to start with. Maybe a funko pop or some desk tcochkey but not a full line of figures.

>>11627854
You forget that a lot of people dumped comics in the 90s and then came back around in the 2000s. That decade was pretty popular with many of those storylines being adapted into the MCU. If they were popular enough to be adapted to the big screen and well received there, those storylines must've been at least somewhat decent. I do however think I share >>11627859's sentiment in that the generation that grew up reading New Avengers, Astonishing X-Men, Batman Hush, and the like weren't as big into action figures as the previous generations were.

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to what extent is the inherent gapping and other contrivances from articulation responsible for poor physiques? for instance spiderman, his classic incarnation was pretty stout while remaining a nimble street level character, is a subtle physique like that just always going to get lost in the translation to a modern action figure?

>>11627594
I'll enjoy my S.H.Figuarts Gamerverse figures while you seethe and hope for something that will never ever happen.

>>11628044
It's moreso that most modern action figures don't try to adapt an exact artist style or proportions due to reuse and other such limitations. Statues moreso go for artist specific styles.

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>>11628038
I won't sit here and pretend the 2000s didn't have anything cool. I got back into comics in the late 90s with stuff like Busiek Avengers and Thunderbolts but I wasn't too much of a fan of whatever main line stunt Marvel was letting Bendis pull but there was a good amount of stuff I was reading but I'm gonna have to be blunt with you and
> If they were popular enough to be adapted to the big screen and well received there, those storylines must've been at least somewhat decent.
>Civil War
>Secret Invasion
>House of M
Hah. No. No, I'm rather certain that much of what they adapted was for far more pragmatic rights and royalty related reasons. They were really good at hype farming themselves back then I'll grant them that, Wizard Magazine was all over their knob with these stories. So they did get attention and reviews, but honestly I really don't see too many people looking as fondly at them as I do classic stories

>>11627729
This will unironically be my last figure probably

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>>11627854
>I doubt the audience that came after in the 00s is large enough to sustain the Marvel Legends line.
... you realize that's literally how MLs and MU figures were selected in the 00s and 10s, right? Most of the characters chosen, and their designs, came from the current comics at the time. Even the vintage designs came from the current comics, because comics at the time were also heavily referencing old storylines (like Cap revisiting his past when he "died")

Tons of figures were made from the 00s storylines.

Remember that retard a month or two ago who totally thought Dan Yun got fired and tripled down on his retardation when it was pointed out he was being retarded? I think about that exchange every once in a while and it makes me smile.

>>11628325
>thinking about hasbro drama during his free time
Get a life hasdrone.

>>11628393
>Thinking about 4chan retards because they make me laugh in my free time
Ftfy. Still mad you were called a retard huh?

>>11627729
The sculpted webbing just looks wrong here. I know it's high-res photography of a small toy, but I don't care for it.

>>11628146
They definitely went more all in on the 2000s and even the 2010s than they have with current era stuff. I'm surprised we haven't seen Wolverine's latest outfit yet. Maybe the Krakoa era stuff didn't sell like they thought it would and with X-Men 97 being ripe for milking, they decided to forgo anything current. At least with Spider-Man we're seeing some stuff like Chasm, whatever his girlfriend's name is, and Spider-Boy. But when was the last time we got anything Avengers related that was from past like 2007? Dark Avengers seems to be the most recent Avengers story line they're willing to touch.

>>11628146
Marvel mandate to push current comics at the time

>>11628460
>Maybe the Krakoa era stuff didn't sell like they thought it would
Oh it's been an absolute shit show. You'll see the omnibus collectors on places like reddit go on about how much they love krakoa but they didn't buy the issue. they maybe bought some trades to pose a "Shelfy" but they weren't reading shit.

>>11628541
>browsing reddit
why though?

>>11628399
Ok.

I'm surprised they haven't done any figures for the new ultimate universe designs

>>11628674
Ultimate universe is ending even though it was more successful than the current mainline books . Maybe people within Marvel didn't want it to succeed

>>11628674
You’ll probably get a shitty hasblo wolverine version on the same ab crunch tiny shoulder body.

>>11628791
That old mold is unironically better than the OP lmao

>>11628558
keep up to date on announcements mostly

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>>11628493
That has been the Marvel mandate since Mattel's Secret Wars toyline in the 80s.
In the 90s, almost every character who was appearing in the comics, even characters who appeared in 2 panels, was getting an action figure.

If they're not doing this anymore, then it's definitely a problem with the comics and Marvel knows this. Hasbro can only make whatever Marvel wants them to make, hence them actually skipping making a Wolverine movie toyline for the 2nd Wolverine movie and the fact that the toys are so comic book heavy. Hasbro can make suggestions but that's it.

>>11628541
i rarely buy single issues either, so i don't see a problem with that part. Not reading though? Fuck them for making fucking omnibuses a collector's commodity. Collected editions and trades shouldn't be collectible.

>>11627594
If we're dreaming, might as well go for Storm over Jada.

>>11627755
Sandman was interesting in his turn to a good guy over time, especially since he still kept his rough edges compared to straightforward good guys. Turning him into a bad guy again because Byrne was the mistake. Also you are comparing someone who was a good guy for over a decade to an event gimmick.

>>11628674
They didn't even finished the first Ultimates. Cap and Iron Man were fine but I want my Ultimate Thor and Hulk at least.

>>11628874
We also got both Ultimate Peter and Miles a number of years ago. That Ultimate Peter still works well imo, especially the unmasked head.

>>11628325
Dan Yun did get “fired” he’s not making the move. He’s there until he finds a new job.

>>11628939
That's not how jobs work.

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Gamerverse ML is seriously awesome.

>>11628966
While the figure looks good by himself and the extreme cowl and claws really make for cool poses, he is absolutely huge for a Wolverine figure

>>11628940
What else would you call it? They're basically forcing him to move

Is there any legends figure that's thought of as bar none the best they've ever produced?

>>11628833
>>11628146
I said it before, I'll say it again. I miss 3.75.

>>11627594
But Spider-Man is cool. Besides, you already have the Gamerverse Legends Wolverine, so it’s no problem, right? Saves you some cash at the end of the day.

>>11627854
There’s never any shortage of new superhero fans because now these characters are all multi-media, appearing in movies, cartoons, TV shows, video games etcetera. There’s more Daredevil fans now than ever in history, because we just accumulate more over time while the old fans hang around too.

>>11627859
Figure collecting has gotten bigger in recent years because it’s been more normalized over time and young adults are still into all this stuff and just coming into disposable income.

>>11629064
You're asking this in a thread full of contrarians? The most you're going to get is goat-adjacent answers, especially because there's not the single figure which was a perfect release

I for one would say the Modular Iron Man comes pretty damn close but the Anniversary (shiny) Iron Man is probably the best overall release. The other one that comes close due to the amount of accessories, articulation and overall paint job is the Deluxe War Machine from a couple years back

>>11628998
>>11629000
>Both 70s Live-Action Spideys
Nice. Shame about no Nicholas Hammond head, but at least it's happening at all.

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>TONY OF YOU DID THIS I HATE YOU AHHH!

How the hell am I supposed to fix this? I even had the thing dipped in hot water to loosen it up and both legs just shattered on me.

I have another copy of the 2020 that also got some issues. I tried to pop the hips ( the whole legs) pieces through the usual heat/hot water but the part is made up of 2 hard plastics that were glued. There is not much I can do to detach/reattach the legs without damaging the inner part of the hard plastic

And now this?

Maybe I should just wait another 10 years for another release?

>>11628998
>>11629000
Shit, that's rad. SHF Supaidaman is the only Spider-Man figure I own, but I'd grab '77 Spider-Man if Bandai did one, just for the keks.
Pretty cool, Hot Toys. Pretty cool.

>>11629269
>How the hell am I supposed to fix this? I even had the thing dipped in hot water to loosen it up and both legs just shattered on me.
You can use a small screw to replace the broken peg and it should work just as if it never broke. There are tutorials on YouTube. Just search for Marvel legends broken thigh swivel. It's unfortunately a result of the swirly twirly plastic they use for metallic characters. It's just brittle and breaks. I've had it happen to one or two of my own figures. Hell, I picked up a matte colored iron man and war machine just because of this even though I prefer the metallic looks.

>>11629181
Legends Gamerverse wolverine is too tall and his articulation is lackluster

>>11629293
>You can use a small screw to replace the broken peg and it should work just as if it never broke. There are tutorials on YouTube.
This, it's totally fixable.

>>11629183
But they are only fans of the media they see really, they are not going to go back and read comics just because they saw a Daredevil TV show. I suppose they might buy action figures...of the Daredevil from the TV look. But not so sure about figures of comic Daredevil

>>11629269
Hasbro's gold plastic syndrome strikes again. It never really was fixed, was it?

>>11629418
Not just gold. People were reporting the deluxe War Machine breaking the same way, personally I've had it happen to King Cobra and the first Spidey 2099.

>>11629416
More will do just that than you probably expect, normies go to Barnes & Noble regularly

>>11629435
>normies go to physical bookstores rather than buying on kindle where they own nothing
I'm skeptical

Also if normies actually bought super hero comics wouldn't they be selling better when everyone notes how horrible they sell? And cover variant sales are a major source of sales. Thus Marvel Legends can't benefit from people who only care about cover variants and not the stories.

>>11629469
This. Normies aren't going out and buying trades at fucking Barnes and Noble. If anything, they're buying manga. The manga section is like 3 or 4 times the size of the western comic section, and even then the western comics are always fully stocked and never looking like people have been buying them. Only diehards read actual funny books nowadays.

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>>11629483
>>11629469
>Normies aren't going out and buying trades at fucking Barnes and Noble
If they aren't, then who's buying the trades that Barnes and Noble are stocking trades inside their stores for?
It's not the people buying the actual comic books at comic book stores and their numbers supposedly haven't changed much in the past 15 years (whose market obviously suffers from no one dying or giving up on comics, because comic book fans are robots, btw).
Trades have become such an important part sales numbers that the comic makers began writing for trades more than a while ago.

So who's buying trades, if not normies and newbies?

>>11629269
Wonder if they'd consider doing a re-release. I would assume there's aw ay to figure out how this can be fixed in general right? Or is it just the nature of the plastic and nothing can be done?

>>11629688
>If they aren't, then who's buying the trades that Barnes and Noble are stocking trades inside their stores for?
No one. Your chart is at latest from like four years ago.


>It's not the people buying the actual comic books at comic book stores and their numbers supposedly haven't changed much in the past 15 years (whose market obviously suffers from no one dying or giving up on comics, because comic book fans are robots, btw).
They don't exist anymore either. That market is slowly shrinking. Comics aren't bringing in new fans, at least not in the numbers they need to be seen as successful.

>Trades have become such an important part sales numbers that the comic makers began writing for trades more than a while ago.
And I'd argue that the trade paperback scene was pretty good even until the mid 2010s. But in the last five years I've watched, almost in real time, as the TPB section at my B&N shrunk while the manga section grew.

>So who's buying trades, if not normies and newbies?
Again, no one.

>>>/co/

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>>11629737
>Your chart is at latest from like four years ago.
How nice that you can't read english, third worlder. I notice you haven't been posting lately. What happened?

Since your have trouble reading English that you can't copy and paste into your translator: that chart is only about comic books, not trades
Trades started becoming popular around 2005. This is around the time book stores started to expand their graphic novel sections and it's basically the most growth the comic industry has experienced since then (see pic)

And because no newer charts exist, i couldn't post them. You can look at sales here though: https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2022.html
2022 had an increase over 2021, btw. Go a year further and sales only went down in the single digits. So sales overall are still mostly the same no matter what you say.

But since you're a third worlder, i know you won't read anything and cnotinue making shit up just to argue.

So again, who's buying the trades if not normies and newbies? Robots who buy comic books aren't multiplying, so where did the growth come from?

>>11629777
>please get into an autistic debate with me
No. I wouldn't have replied if I realized it was you Subby.

>>11629738
No, this is /toy/

>>11629064
The Blob and Mojo are seriously good figures.

>>11629737
Idk I work at B&N and more people ask me about manga for sure but I think more people ask me about comic trades than you would expect

Granted though that's just my location, I'm sure the overall average is much worse

>>11629064
Nobody agrees on things like that but honestly Rom might be up there, it does just about every single thing right where most individual legends falter in at least one aspect

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>>11628997
He's definitely huge...
Well, I'll put him next to an even bigger guy.

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>>11629064

>>11629064
MODOK

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>>11629064
Galactus

>>11629953
Okay well this is probably objectively correct but it isn't a fair thing to say

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>>11629962
I agree…
Spiral's already been mentioned, so I'll go with Cable.

>>11629938
Have you still got the pics of your custom spiral? I remember after seeing it I was so disappointed with the head and hands on the original I ended up packing mine away :D

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>>11629974
This?
I'd love to take a new photo, but I dropped it and broke the helmet ornament... So she's... taking a break.

>>11629777
Nta but I feel like your comment is rather disingenuous and wrongfully condescending given the fact that you only talk about overall revenue while completely leaving out the fact that one of the images in your link shows that in terms of comics, there was an increase of +2000 (+15%) in print comic releases from 2021 to 2022.

Of course revenues could go up or stay stagnant when you release new stuff to keep your numbers afloat. Also, given the fact that Diamond hasn't been transparent about their numbers in recent years doesn't necessarily emphasise your point.

>>11629303
OK, Goldilocks. It’s not like Gamerverse Wolverine is as tall as the average ML, he’s still short. This complaint is really overstated.

>>11629416
I can assure you that’s not the case. The classic designs are generally considered the ones to get because they’re more “universal”.

>>11630054
That's great that you want to disagree with me, but you don't offer any evidence or facts to validate your opinion.

Your post basically amounts to
>you're wrong because i said so

Nevermind the fact that stores are carrying trades and aren't doing it freely, nor for charity, which means it's popular enough to profit off of them. So just from stores carrying stock backs up what I've said.

>>11630098
>you're wrong because i said so
So I get from your comment that you simply don't like to be called out for not providing enough evidence for your claims. Someone doesn't have to provide additional proof to signal that your argument is lacking in logic. Also, acting like I'm disagreeing with you just for the sake of it is immature, you might want to change that

I'm not the anon you were originally referring to so I'm not saying comics are completely obsolete and not being bought. All I'm saying is that numbers, or the lack thereof, are implying the market is rather stagnant than growing. I do hope that interest for the hobby will increase because there is loads of potential but recent years have shown that creativity is extremely low

>>11630098
Shut up dude. You argue like shit with disingenuous points and out of date charts and images, are overly condescending for no fucking reason, and are way too far up your own ass. Get the fuck over yourself. You're like a real life Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. Imagine making that your fucking peesona lmao.

>>11630103
You hit the nail on the head. He is incapable of accepting that he can be wrong about something.

>>11630103
>what part of "I DISAGREED WITH YOU" don't you get? That means everything you said is wrong, because i said so!
amazing millennial logic

How about instead of making shit up like a 12 year old girl, you actually link to anything that backs up what you say?

>>11630106
i hope you're just samefagging or the third worlder who's just trying to shitpost, because we don't need more dumbshits who make arguments out of thin air.

>>11630117
Can you at least confirm you have a ponytail? I wanna say you admitted to it a few years ago.

>>11630117
>amazing millennial logic
Are you literally unable to read? Where did I say that you were completely wrong? I said that while the information you provided may be factually correct, your arguments should still be subject to validation in terms of the industry growing and flourishing.

>How about instead of making shit up like a 12 year old girl, you actually link to anything that backs up what you say?
How about you stop acting like a narcissistic dipshit who has never had friends before and actually start behaving like a regular human?

>>11629979
Yes! Ioved how you added ball jointed hands and that repainted head from a statue. Make it a complete different figure than >>11629949
Such a shame you broke it. Hope you can fix!

>>11630092
Wolverine is a goddamn midget at 5’3. The newer version stands more like 5’8 being the same height as other females.

>>11627577

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Sentinel's here!

>>11629777
>>11630098
>>11630117
Not even part of the conversation but just wanted to say that you sound like a huge and insufferable faggot, holy shit. Do you behave like this in real life as well or are you legit trolling? If you do, I feel sorry for the people who have to put up with you on a constant basis

>>11630184
It's subjectanon. He's been like this for like a decade at this point. Maybe more. I genuinely feel bad for his poor brother and sister in law, that have to put up with him during the holidays.

Jeez Hasbro. The stuff from my mini comic wave 2 and Executioner wave has shipped already. Wtf? This shit wasn't due out for like two months. You're killing me Hasbro.

>>11630233
Yeah the timing on all this is getting bad.

>>11630184
I'm not the one that's arguing just to argue.

I state a claim, back it up with facts, and some 12 year old girl comes come in with a "nuh uh." They then cry about my tone, because i expect actual insight instead of made up shit just to disagree.

And here you are, also crying about tone, because you're another little bitch who's super sensitive about words on the internet.

Do you even own any Marvel action figures? Ever read a comic?
Kinda want to be ontopic, instead of being tone policed by a bunch of HR cows.

>>11630248
>All this strawmanning because someone pointed out that you act like a cunt.
Get over yourself.

>>11630248
That one anon was as respectful as can be and genuinely seemed to disagree with the numbers you posted without being a shitbag about it. You immediately jumped into a full on defense mode because of your insecurities and you still don't even realise it but would rather play the victim card all day long.
>And here you are, also crying about tone, because you're another little bitch who's super sensitive about words on the internet.
See? Once again, you're playing the victim and not accepting other people's criticism. Very telling

>>11630248
Yes you are. You're the only one here shitflinging like a little girl and unable to accept criticism. Going "waaaaaah I posted poor data so everyone has to accept it or counter with other poor data!" is pathetic to say the least and then continuing by playing the victim like >>11630312 said is even more pathetic.

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So... Toys?

Black or Blue?

Scales or no scales?

I can't decide. The gamerverse set turned out to be way better than I thought it would be. Solid fucking pickup for $30.

>>11630328
Scales and black. The blue is way too light and without highlights really looks like an inferior figure. Even the TAS Venom from a few years back looks way better

Is there any 1/10 line of Marvel figures going on or coming out anytime soon? With Marvel Select dead, I'm considering getting rid of all the non-big guys I can't fudge in with Legends or 1/12 imports, but it'd be nice to have an alternative.

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>>11630329
I dunno, in person, Venom is really doing it for me. The colors aren't as gnarish than pictures convey. But yeah I'm inclined to agree with you on Black Venom. Although I really do dig blue boy.

As for Cap, I agree usually but the proportions on the new one are just so good. The broader chest is just so 90s. I still haven't decided on if I want to display the new one on the Avengers shelf or not, but regardless I'm using the new heads on whichever body I pick. I really prefer the larger eye holes on the new fig compared to the 20th anniversary one. I know the small eye holes is more classic, but this just looks like my minds eye version of Captain America. Was shocked the blues actually match. I thought the new one was slightly darker. The bigger eye holes look so much better.

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>>11630338
New head, new shield, old body. I think this might be my shelf Cap.

>>11630347
Welp, probably gonna have to use the new shield now. The clip on the one I was using is breaking. Although, I may swap it with a spare clip I have from another shield. How annoying. Hasbro really needs to figure out a better solution to Caps shield. Or use better plastic for ffs.

>>11628119
Are you dying?

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>>11630387
And I guess I don't have to swap it out with an existing shield. Found a 3d print file for the clip online. fits perfectly on Caps wrist too and feels less brittle. Plus if it does break I can just print a new one. Thanks random anon on the internet, it's nice to know I now have an unlimited supply of these things since they all break so fucking easily.

>>11630438
NTA but I think I might be and also I am being sued for a large sum of money. Its over for me

>>11630564
lol what did you do?

>>11630173
It's shipping?

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lol

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Hope nobody bought that first one.
Like I did...

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That one Mexican said Silver Surfer needs to be a lot taller but I dont know how tall you'd want it. Even Toy Biz didn't make him that tall

>>11630681
I got the Mafex. No regrets. Especially after seeing the new ML. It's way too bright.

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>>11630636
Yes, it arrived in Japan yesterday.

>>11630681
well that looks really fucking good

>>11630686
Man, glad I passed on Surfer. Really not worth upgrading from the Walgreens version.

>>11630312
Brah, i was respectful too. I asked her for some evidence to back up what they said, to see if she actually had a point, and instead got more bullshit.
There's nothing to respect if someone is going to throw more bullshit back at you.

If you even look at what's being argued, you'd note that the numbers are just ESTIMATES. Anyone who reads finance knows that data keeps being added or someone noticed a mistake, but the numbers are roughly what they're supposed to be. Even with presidential elections and tallying votes, which youd think should be perfect, there will be errors there too.

Nevermind those charts show different things. They're not going to match up with one another, because the entire point that they're showing is the trade paperback market is completely separate from the comic book market and how it grew disproportionately over the years. Hence, normies and newbies going to bookstores, because they're not the people going to comic book stores to buy comic books.

So that sensitive princess ignored my point to nitpick at some detail i was never talking about. They picked a random point just to disagree with me: they created an argument out of thin air.

We were having nice conversation about how new fans find out about the random comic book characters that come out in the Marvel Legends line, and in show up a bunch of faggots to derail the thread because they don't care about comics or comic toys and want to create drama because that's more entertaining for them.

>>11630684
I hope the dog chew toy plain blue plastic one is the first one, because not only is its color ugly, but the s culpt is way too built.
Does it represents how he's drawn today? Because I'm glad i don't read modern Marvel and the spiderverse movies were trash.

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>>11630748
>Sculpt is way too built
I guess you didn't read comics in 1992 either.
Please don't talk about things you don't know anything about it's embarrassing

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>>11630754
Sounds like you never read comics, because you don't understand that covers are just covers and know that Spiderman 2099 isn't supposed to be a massive character.

The cover has him all hunched over, with the camera zoomed in, making his torso look much wider. Anyone can do this IRL too. Go look at swimmers when they have their arms out, they'er almost barrel chested like a gorilla, yet standing straight up and down they look thin.

See pic? Here he is next to a bounty hunter who is actually supposed to be pretty big. IF the cyborg were made into an ML based on the basic blue Spiderman 2099's size, he'd have to stand even taller and wider, making the bounty hunter way out of scale than how he's presented in the comics.

Nevermind the metallic blue spiderman alerady has a body builder build anyway. So there's no point in making the basic blue one bigger. That's just scale creep.

>>11630788
You stupid fucking nigger that's still thicker >>11630681 than the metallic blue Spider-man who is a skinny lanklet and literally nobody will agree with you on this

>>11630788
How desperate for someone to argue with are you? Is this how you fish tof replied, by posting overly long, wordy, weirdly arrogant, posts that don't really amount to anything and half the time have questionable, out of date, and often outright wrong info?

I think you need a friend.

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>>11630805
>implying Hasbro is sculpting 1:1 action figures that match the art (I WISH!)
You're retard and you keep arguing about shit you know nothing about.

In the comic, they were trying to recreate Spiderman in the future. They experimented on prisoners and they all failed, because they kept on coming out monsterously huge and deformed out of the machine they were using. Spiderman was supposed to be a normal human with the PROPORTIONAL strength of a spider (plus static cling) and hat's what their project was aiming for.

So Miguel, a normal human who doesn't take steroids, experimented on himself to cure himself of an addiction with the same machine and someone tried to sabotage him. Sabotaging the machine accidently fixed the problems the Spiderman project was having. So he came out of the machine with his same non-steroid body. He still has the same body he had before (minus some weird additions), because all his clothes fit the same and no one thought he looked any different aside from thinking he's still an addict, since he was hiding his eyes and arms.
He doesn't look any bigger than his brother or his boss, none of whom are steroid muscle men.
Again, Spiderman 2099 isn't supposed to be a massive character, hence him looking smaller than other characters in that book. Even this thor, a normal human, has a girthier build.

So when they make a toy, which is going to be more accurate? The 6'2" Arnold Swarchinaniugner basic blue spiderman or 6' man who can't spend 6 hours a day at the gym, taking steriods, because he's too busy doing science shit for a megacorporation metallic spiderman?

Again, the metallic one is STILL fucking built.

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>>11630815
i love talking nerd shit with other nerds. I get along well with a lot of people when i go to conventions, because they're fans of the same shit I'm into. Even in disagreements, it's always with a laugh, because we just appreciate different things.

Unfortunately, /toy/ is full of retards who pretend to be knowledeable about comics, and they love pushing their retarded ideas. Even when they're outright wrong, they continue pretending they're right, like the current retard. So I'm not looking to argue with anyone.

Pic of how a 5'10 Miguel Ohara should look like compared to a normal human being who needs to work out a ton to fight crime in universe full of superpowered freaks.
No idea who the spiderman in the middle is, if that's peter parker, dats some cheapo scale creep.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Daredevil is suffering from scale creep too. Most of the Hasbro figures do, but they still luck out from time to time. But it looks fine here, because its only Hasbro figures being compared.

>>11630788
This is like someone copying that Werewolf by Night anon a few threads back who was posting comic panels to prove the colors on the toy were fine
Except for now saying the complete opposite about colors and being totally wrong

>>11630833
>Unfortunately, /toy/ is full of retards who pretend to be knowledeable about comics, and they love pushing their retarded ideas. Even when they're outright wrong, they continue pretending they're right, like the current retard. So I'm not looking to argue with anyone.
I dont know if you're >>11630748 this retard who thinks 2099 should be skin and bones and the wrong color but you should leave if we're so beneath you
You won't be missed

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>>11630850
>a man with massive pecs, abs, and quads is skin and bones because he d oesn't have a superman build
fuck off, retard

You're probably a DCUC fan, who enjoyed Mattel reusing the same superman buck for most of their figures, not understanding different characters are supposed to have different builds.

Also, even the MU figure did the color better.
It's a shame modern Hasbro can't spend more on apps like this anymore.

>>11630833
>Unfortunately, /toy/ is full of retards who pretend to be knowledeable about comics, and they love pushing their retarded ideas. Even when they're outright wrong, they continue pretending they're right
When you say things like this it makes me feel like you do this whole bit on purpose. But the fact you've kept it up for like a decade at this point makes me think it isn't a bit and you're so not self aware you've circled back on it.

>No idea who the spiderman in the middle is, if that's peter parker, dats some cheapo scale creep.
That's literally Miguel in a new costume. Absolutely hilarious how you claim to be this comic expert and then in the same breath don't know about a ten year old costume he wore for a while. So lazy you can't even Google it. Absolutely wild.

>Also, I'm pretty sure that Daredevil is suffering from scale creep too. Most of the Hasbro figures do, but they still luck out from time to time
That DD is using a 15 year old buck they don't even use anymore. There have been several new Daredevils.

To further beseech your point, let's get into semantics. That Spidey 2099 is reuse of the Pizza Spidey Body. The Pizza Spidey Body has been since retired for the most part, and a new buck is being used for a bunch of alternate Spider Men. This is the Renewal Your Vows buck that came out s few years ago. It's a slightly modified version of the retro carded Spidey from 2020. The RYV and Retro body have been used for black suit, Ben Reilly Spider Man and Scarlet Spider, and Superior Spider Man off the top of my head. It only makes sense that they would reuse the body for 2099 in the same way they did for Pizza Spidey. So it makes sense in the context of action figures.

Now, that's not to say I don't agree with you. I for one like Miguel to be on the thinner side ala the Mafex version. But in the context of Marvel Legends using this body is fine since it matches Peter, like it always has in this line.

Now. Shut the fuck up about it already.

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And to further cement my point that Peter and Miguel have similar builds, here they are in their first crossover. Pretty much matching physiques. Therefore the new ML 2099 works when paired with the RYV Spidey and the Mafex works when paired with Mafex Peter.

Now fuck off forever with this topic. Comic book characters proportions change from fucking panel to panel. You faggots can each cherry pick art that supports either of your viewpoints until the sun explodes. Just pick whichever figure matches the particular interpretation you prefer and shut the fuck up.

I hate having to share a hobby with such fucking midwits that I have to talk to you bitches like I'm your father.

Fuck. Forgot to attach my image in my frustration with you subhumans.

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>>11630856
>That's literally Miguel in a new costume. Absolutely hilarious how you claim to be this comic expert and then in the same breath don't know about a ten year old costume he wore for a while. So lazy you can't even Google it.
Unlike you, I'm not going to comment on shit that I know nothing about. I'm not going to pretend to be knowledgable about that, whereas here you are still arguing about comics you've never read, about characters you know nothing about.

I don't care for most modern Marvel comics, so of course i didn't bother to read anything about that spiderman. I don't argue for the sake of arguing like you do.

Also, that just shows Hasbro's scale creep. Bigger figures because they need to reuse molds meant for larger characters. So your point with pizza spiderman isn't really proof of anything but Hasbro cheaping out.

Post a comic with a Marvel figure to prove you're at least a fan, instead of just the shitposter you've proven yourself to be with your lack of knowledge.
And since i know I'm talking to a casual, I need to point out that this is drawn by the original 2099 artist. Note how Spiderman doesn't look like a steroid freak next to MJ.

Also also, check out this fucking metallic blue. Love the way the light reflecting off the metallic makes it look light blue, emulating the coloring in the 2099 comic. Natural highlights without paint apps. Fucking beautiful paint, that makes the new Spiderman 2099 look like a dog chew toy.

>>11630885
I see I touched a nerve. Sorry retard, but I'm not going to believe you actually read those comics. You just have them for show. Kinda sad. You should read some of those comics, some of them are good.

>I don't care for most modern Marvel comics, so of course i didn't bother to read anything about that spiderman. I don't argue for the sake of arguing like you do.
I didn't outright read the series that suit is from but through the magic of osmosis, I still know where it came from. No fucking excuse. Especially if you're supposed to be the comic guru you claim to be. Bitch.

>Also, that just shows Hasbro's scale creep. Bigger figures because they need to reuse molds meant for larger characters. So your point with pizza spiderman isn't really proof of anything but Hasbro cheaping out.
No it isn't. The new mold has a higher part count, therefore it costs them more money. It has mother fucking toe articulation lmao. Your logic is flawed.

>Post a comic with a Marvel figure to prove you're at least a fan
I don't have to. I know where that Spider Man came from lol.

>instead of just the shitposter you've proven yourself to be with your lack of knowledge.
But I knew where that Spider Man was from, you didn't. How am I the one displaying a lack of knowledge?

>And since i know I'm talking to a casual, I need to point out that this is drawn by the original 2099 artist. Note how Spiderman doesn't look like a steroid freak next to MJ.
Lmao, in your rage you missed the part where I agree with you that he should be thinner. But you missed that part huh. Will you read it here I wonder? Fuckin retard lol.

>Also also, check out this fucking metallic blue. Love the way the light reflecting off the metallic makes it look light blue, emulating the coloring in the 2099 comic.
Eh. I'm not a fan of the swirly twirly plastic they use. My original 2099's thigh joint just disintegrated one day out of the blue. The whole thigh came apart. Hope you have better luck.

>>11630965
>third worlder who doesn't own anything still pretending to know something that isn't from the third world
why do you even post here if you don't own any marvel comics or marvel figures?

I thought that with Joytoy's Warhammer line dying, I'd have figured they'd stop paying you shills and giving you an internet connection, yet instead you've expanded beyond the WH40k General to shitpost elsewhere.

Does your shitposting outside of WH40k General a hint that Joytoy is trying to get the Marvel and GI Joe license?

>>11630980
>Brings up JoyToy again out of fucking nowhere
You can't make this shit up. You have brain worms.

>>11630980
Also. I appreciate that since you can't refute any of my actual arguments you've just resorted to your usual third worlder projection and sperging out about JoyToy again. I accept your concession. Stop trying to act like you're the bastion of knowledge on a topic when it's clear you're just a casual secondary fake geek girl.

>subjectanon gets called out on not knowing something
>Immediately spergs out, starts calling people their worlders, and starts kevetching about JoyToy for no reason.
This faggot is so insufferable. He doesn't even do it on purpose either.

>>11631047
At least he won't reply anymore after being so thoroughly butt fucked.

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So...toys? And the Omnibus they come from. Since someone asked for toys and comics earlier.

>>11629976
This shit looks terrible

>>11627699
Didn't the modern comics turn Strong Guy into a team killing edgelord? Who cares how they fuck up status quo, it's too wild and unhinged to care every time they reveal some shocking twist.

>capeshit consoomers complaining when they get what they love: slop

>>11631282
Who are you quoting?

>>11631288
>redditor doesn't know how to greentext
shocking to find you in a capeshit thread lololol

>>11631301
>Who are you quoting
Has been the standard response to people being cowards with green text since before you started posting here

>>11631301
Lurk moar newfag

>>11631305
>>11631309
>I was only pretending to be fresh off the boat from reddit

>>11631311
I still don't know who you were quoting

>>11631311
At least we know you weren't just pretending to be retarded.

>>11628651
Thanks for reading.

Dead board

If it is Black Friday, where are all the deals?

>>11631429
thats next week dumbass

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>>11631429
Here you go.

>>11631422
all actions figures suck. and they have sucked for years. everything is soulless. and all the properties are super fucking gay. so gay they have retroactively tainted anything good about the old days too.

>>11631277
Strong Guy became a lord of hell under his best writer though. So his characterization was spot on and the story was good. What they do with him afterward... well, who gives a shit what happens after Peter David.

>>11627699
>Did you know Mystique is now Not A Villain in the comics?
Hasn't she been not-a-villain since the 80s, when she became part of freedom force? Then became part of an X team in the 90s? It's been part of her character well before "comics became bad"
11630987
refute what? You're a lonely third worlder making up contrarian arguments out of thin air. You don't read comics or collect Marvel figures, you're just here to shitpost.

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>>11631527
>You're a lonely third worlder making up contrarian arguments out of thin air. You don't read comics or collect Marvel figures, you're just here to shitpost.
Just because I pointed out you didn't know where that costume is from? Goddamn bro. I mean here's a comic and an action figure if it means that much to you.

>couldn't post an image last night with his multiple posts because he had to ask someone else to take it for him and they weren't up until now
sure is third worlder who thinks everyone is as stupid as him

Nevermind your "point" is malnourish third worlder logic. It's nothing but deflection because you didn't read the comic book.

You wrote 1000 words of contrarian nonsense, just because I'm correct in pointing out that Spiderman 2099 shouldn't be sculpted to look like a 6'2" terminator, when the miguel is supposed to a King of Manlets and has been drawn that way since day one.
Whether that's true not today, I wouldn't know, because i avoid 99% of modern marvel, hence my asking.

>>11631564
>>couldn't post an image last night with his multiple posts because he had to ask someone else to take it for him and they weren't up until now
Sorry I didn't want to get up in the wee hours of the morning to placate you. If you need to tell yourself that this isn't mine, that's your business. Hope it helps you sleep at night.

>Nevermind your "point" is malnourish third worlder logic.
Malnourish? Did your google translate fuck up or something lmao?

>It's nothing but deflection because you didn't read the comic book.
Bitch you were the one who didn't know where that figure was from, not me.

>You wrote 1000 words of contrarian nonsense, just because I'm correct in pointing out that Spiderman 2099 shouldn't be sculpted to look like a 6'2" terminator, when the miguel is supposed to a King of Manlets and has been drawn that way since day one.
This is now the third fucking time I've had to tell you that I agree with this point. I like Miguel to be thinner too. Holy shit. You're so mad you can't even read. I know you won't see this part though.

>Whether that's true not today, I wouldn't know, because i avoid 99% of modern marvel, hence my asking.
That's why you posted a modern comic with your Marvel Universe figure? Once again bruh, tell yourself whatever you need to. I'm still going to laugh and make fun of you when you prove you're not the bonafide bastion of comic knowledge you claim to be.

Don't hurt yourself getting mad about this.

There's some cool designs in modern comics. They should try making some figures of them instead of redoing Enchantress for the 3rd time.

>>11631577
I mean we're getting a modern Iron Man in the very same wave.

11631567
>more endless contrarian arguments
would me buying 10,000 Joytoy figures and declaring the Warhammer line is the greatest ever make your shitposting stop?

Also, are you really pretending it wasnt you that posted >>11630965 >>11630985 >>11630987 last night? holy fuck, man. you literally can't stop lying.

Also also, i just noticed you have no idea that Hasbro used to use metallic paint back then. You're completely ignorant of everything you talk about.
This is why i praised Hasbro for having the budget to do something like that and called it paint.

>>11631606
med status: untaken

>>11631527
Mystique is evil again; she recently had a mini where she fought Nick Fury and did a bunch of bad shit (including murdering Avalanche's human loved and shooting Destiny) to wipe all government computers of files on her, so as to give her and Destiny breathing room. Unfortunately Mystique has mutant cloning AIDS, that got accelerated when she forced Fabian Cortez to boost her powers to the point of finally being able to duplicate powers along with appearances. They currently are waiting out Age of Revelations, with it implied that they are going to be the next major villains for the X-Men.

Anyone know why we haven't gotten any box sets from Hasbro in ages? Really was hoping to get another West Coast Avengers set with Wonder Man reissue, bull dyke haircut Scarlet Witch, Firebird, Living Laser, and Hawkeye in his Goliath costume and another X-Villain box sets with more Marauders, MLF, and Savage Land Mutants

>>11631606
>He still didn't read it
Holy shit, Subby. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT MIGUEL SHOULD BE THIN! You're so mad right now you can't even see i agreed with that point and that was never my contention, I merely pointed out you're not the kmow it all you claim to be.

>would me buying 10,000 Joytoy figures and declaring the Warhammer line is the greatest ever make your shitposting stop?
I genuinely don't care. I don't collect Warhammer toys nor do I visit the Warhammer thread. What does this have to do with Marvel comics?

Do Hasbro pulse figs go on sale anywhere else or are they forever exclusive to that site? I want Wolverine and Cyclops but people on ebay are asking $40-$50+ for each of them
Fuck that, I might as well buy the fucking 2 packs but I still don't want to pay $57.99 + tax + shipping for sets I only want half of,

Also why are they $58, I swear they were $49.99 when they first dropped???

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>>11631616
>she recently had a mini where she fought Nick Fury
hahah, did they actually bring Nick Fury back or are you talking about Nick Jr?
Man, fuck modern Marvel.

Also, that sounds like a retread of the shit she did in XFactor.

>>11631618
MAybe they stopped trying because all of them seemed to have sold poorly. a lot of them shelf warmed even at clearance prices.

>contrarian still trying to argue over nothing because he just wants to shitpost
And that reminds me, i don't own a mystique toy, despite being a fan. I don't think they've ever made a good one.

.... and that's not true, i actually own the sentinel series one because i needed her BAF piece.

Check out these awful paint apps. They put the shading ONTOP of the tits, instead of underneath.
... remember when toy companies used to play up the sexuality of their figures? Remember when they had the budget to have shading on their toys, but not the QC to put it on right? Better times.

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>>11631618
>Firebird
I like her but nobody ever wants to use her. I'd really love to get a line up of AVENGERS ONLY I CARE ABOUT. We'd get Firebird, Stringray, Dr Druid... well maybe not Druid. Silverclaw? Jack of Hearts?

>>11631652
read the posts you're replying to. He's agreeing with you dumbass.

>>11631781
Here's his post from yesterday, dude.
>>11630856
>It only makes sense that they would reuse the body for 2099 in the same way they did for Pizza Spidey. So it makes sense in the context of action figures.
>But in the context of Marvel Legends using this body is fine since it matches Peter, like it always has in this line.
This is the opposite of agreeing with me

The third worlder is constantly changing his arguments, nitpicking at random things, that has nothing to do with the discussion, to continue shitposting.
He's the shitposting equivalent of that AI video of Will Smith eating pasta, his face constantly changing and the pasta constantly changing. He's been constantly changing what he's been saying, going back on his own comments, pretending he didn't post last night without any pictures when he should have posted proof, and other random lies, because he's desperately trying to create arguments out of thin air.

He's butthurt over me shitting on Joytoy's Warhammer figures (or maybe 4H's Mythic Legion line) for using brittle plastics/shit paint/badQC and he's trying to get revenge by constantly making contrarian arguments and trying to "NO U" me anywhere he thinks i'm posting. He's a shitposter and his posts are easy to identify, especially since he has such contrarian takes.

There's a reason why i asked him to take a photo to prove he's a fan of anything being discussed as soon as he revealed he's that shitposter and that's why i stopped taking his posts seriously after he continued bullshitting instead of proving something any Marvel fan can do in seconds.

>>11631788
You might be the most insane person I've ever encountered on this board. What does Warhammer have to do with anything?

>>11631788
>He's still going
>2 days later
>Just because I don't think the new Spocer-Man 2099 ML isn't a travesty to mankind
>And because I pointed out he's not the kmow it all fsggot he portrays himself as
Having a signed ASM #1 was just the icing on the cake wasn't it? Again, don't hurt yourself subby. Sorry that my comic is cooler than yours.

>>11631648
They were 50 but hasbro did a price increase retroactively. Prices only go up now, not down.

>>11627699
>listening to summaries
>aka Youtube shorts
>instead of reading
Fake fan alert.

>>11628066
That's because you can only deconstruct so much until you break the characters. See Iron Man circa Civil War and ever since.

>>11631882
You're proud of being a fan of something you say is bad?

>>11631893
Not sure how your neurodivergent mind came up with that, but I'm a fan of Marvel Comics not Disney's Marvel Comics. Meaning until about 2008 when everything went to shit.

>>11631900
Then what is the problem with summaries of Disney's Marvel comics, since apparently it is distinct from before then?

>>11631900
I keep saying it, but outside of some exceptions, Dark Reign was the last time Marvel comics were any good.

>>11631564
>>couldn't post an image last night with his multiple posts because he had to ask someone else to take it for him and they weren't up until now
That anon has been posting here for years. I remember when he used to have the comic on display with his figures.

I paid 28 dollars for Enchantress. It wasn't worth it. Unfortunately I would do it again. This is what the addiction to plastic is like?

>>11631964
Who are you talking to?

>>11631967
You. I thought we were friends? Is this how you treat people? God, this is why I never call you!

>>11631973
Nope, not me. I got Enchantress too, haven't opened her yet. Got her and Werewolf the other day and am now waiting for WWII Logan on Monday. Also, my mini comic wave 2 should be here tomorrow according to FedEx. Anyone else?

>>11631987
No minicomics for me until January. I chose the cheapest option, the old msrp. If they cancel them i don't really care

>>11632008
I got mine for MSRP, free shipping too from Pulse since I spent more than $75. There were a few figures I wanted from this wave so that worked out.

>>11631713
Put me down for Dr. Druid, who was great when Roger Stern wrote him but treated as a joke by everyone else.

>>11632036
He wasn't a very good super hero but it was funny watching someone desperate to lead the team so much. Truthfully I'd like to get everyone.

I'm still mad that we have a perfect Avengers era Beast headsculpt but it's only in gray

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What's the deal with CT toys? I keep hearing good things about their quality, especially for knocks offs butt also how? I was looking at the mafex one, especially because of that squinty looking Ditko/Romita head they made. But what's story? But also on the Ali express pages there's this happy warning

> WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including phthalates (DEHP), which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm.

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>>11631900
>>11631903
>since apparently its distinct
Very much so and the old guard knew what was coming.

>>11631900
It's not absolute but I really began to check out during Bendis's disassembled. I remember everyone hyping that shit up from stores to wizard but it just really flew in the face of what I liked about marvel.

>>11631893
Just because you're a fan of something doesn't mean you like all of it. I'm a fan of spider-man. I have decades of spider-man stories I like a lot. But the past couple have ranged from mediocre as hell to outright awful.

>>11632124
California Prop 65 warning. They basically put it on everything.

>>11632130
So it's basically nothing?

>>11632130
That's because a vast amount of chemicals in use in toys, and pretty much anything in modern society is possibly toxic since corporations can just make whatever abomination chemical they want and worry about if its safe later when a regulatory body complains. Then they just change to a new chemical that isn't tested yet after the previous one is implicated. They don't have to prove the chemical is safe before they put it in the product. Remember Triclosan? Was in tons of stuff like beauty products and soap until the FDA finally declared it not GRAS and it was pulled.

>>11632134
It's a warning label there for a reason. Frankly we shouldn't be buying any of these toys as they basically all contain phthalates. Will they have some horrific effect? For some maybe for some maybe not. It's a toss up, a risk, just like everything.

>>11632137
I remember reading that the type of durable spraypaint used for most toys is so toxic in liquid form that it's banned in the US, though apparently it's safe ("safe") once dry

>>11632140
I can only imagine the types of fumes that come off these toys for people who dip them in near boiling water or use hair driers on them.

>>11632134
>>11632124

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phthalates

>The focus for regulation in these jurisdictions has been mainly on diethyl phthalate (DEHP), which is generally regarded as a carcinogenic toxin requiring regulation.

Would not buy.

>>11632151
>diethyl phthalate
this shit is in every single thing made of plastic that you interact with on a daily basis, even things you put directly in your mouth or store food in

Man, now I'm not sure what to think. All I want is a good cheap squinty Spidey.

>>11632183
Not 'every single thing' for sure. It's used with PVC to make it more pliable. Many plastics for food use are PS, PET or HDPE--these types are less dangerous than PVC. Some PVC plastics are used for food related use, but it's far more prevalent in toys, electronics and plumbing.

>>11632194
>cdc.gov
>What is diethyl phthalate?
Diethyl phthalate is a colorless liquid that has a bitter, disagreeable taste. This synthetic substance is commonly used to make plastics more flexible. Products in which it is found include toothbrushes, automobile parts, tools, toys, and food packaging.
>toothbrushes
My overall point is, handling figures, bootleg or otherwise, with diethyl phthalates in them won't kill you or give you cancer unless you're actually in the factory making them without any PPE on.

>>11632151
Your loss, loser. Plastic tastes great.

>>11631887
Since what happened before doesn't matter, just write the character as they should be instead.

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>>11631887
>>11632237
The problem so many writers have about deconstructions is that they forget you're supposed to put shit back together when you're done. They just think it's when you take something apart and it ends up a cynical mess but you can take it apart, examine what makes the characters tick and then when you put it back together you get something special.

>>11632227
I acknowledged there are PVC plastics that are used for food related uses so not entirely sure what you're trying to prove by stating there are cases of food related use with the first part of the post. I already noted as such. I would still say it's more prevalent in toys (for example most hyper articulated action figures use PVC in some parts of them, although the usage levels of DEHP is harder to determine because most toy companies do not disclose the type of plasticizers they use). Meanwhile food packaging comes in a variety of plastics, not all being PVC using DEHP. It's rarer for me to see food packaging that uses PVC as opposed to PS, PET, PP or HDPE.

And not all toothbrushes have DEHP, as many toothbrushes are not that pliable and thus don't need it. If your toothbrush is hard and does not flex easily, chances are it doesn't have DEHP. That list is only giving examples of some product types that have it. It is not claiming every toothbrush has DEHP.

Due the probabilistic nature of reality, you cannot reliably make the claim you did in the second part of the post that figures with PVC with DEHP won't cause cancer, since it isn't that black and white. We can only go on probabilities, and it still has a chance of doing so, so we cannot definitively say it won't. For one person they may be exposed figures with DEHP quite a lot and never have an issue. For another, they may have lower exposure and all it takes is the wrong particles to be inhaled, go to the wrong place and cause DNA damage to start the process. It's all up to chance.

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>>11632137
So I can't buy the CT line cause there's a chance it'll kill me?

>>11632256
Some collectors won't buy bootlegs or toys that do not go through the proper channels due to the increased risk about what it may contain.

Japanese imports are safer as Japan has regulations that are in some cases more stringent than the US. US regulations are somewhat lax but the US did step up regulations on plastic toys in 2008 with the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA), so toys which American companies bring in from China must follow those stronger safety standards compared to what the US had before.

China doesn't value human life like the west does, so anything made by a Chinese company not solicited from a Japanese or western partner and sold only as an import directly from the Chinese company is riskier, and requires some trust in the company. You may get lucky and they are upstanding and don't include anything the US would not allow, or there may be a reason they are cheaper...

>>11632251
The amount of chemicals in a plastic toy and how much youre going to be exposed to is insignificant compared to how much you're getting gassed everytime you enter a car.

Your carpet puts out almost as much of the chemical as your car does, yet you don't worry about that, do you?
Same with ikea furniture.

That "brand new" smell are all poisons and if you stop noticing that smell doesn't mean it stopped off gassing, because it takes decades for the chemicals to leech away completely.

But hey, these poisons are used and governments don't do anything to regulate them further, because they're deemed safe (even in the state of california). So why worry unnecessarily about toys?

Also, California apparently makes a ton of money off of this and lawyers are why some products that should get a warning label don't. Basically, if you're a big enough company, you can be non-compliant.
https://www.consumerreports.org/toxic-chemicals-substances/why-california-thinks-your-couch-will-cause-cancer-prop-65-a5957101345/

>>11632275
Obviously someone who is avoiding the substances in toys will be avoiding it elsewhere as well where possible.

I work from home so I don't use my car that frequently, certainly not daily.

I only have one carpeted room in my house and the carpet is from the 1970s so it has long off-gassed.

I only buy new furniture made of solid wood -- not manufactured or engineered wood like particleboard or MDF -- as particleboard and MDF off-gasses formaldehyde and other chemicals.

Many of the other, older pieces of furniture in my house are antiques from the late 1800s to the mid 1900s which are solid wood or have long off-gassed in the case of the mid 1900s stuff.

I'm aware that basically any product that smells is emitting VOCs.

Toys, soap, paint (when needed) and garbage bags are about the only things I buy that have "brand new smells" and domestic figures are significantly less smelly out of the box than they used to be in the 90s. I trust some of it is probably down to my smell fading, but I have also encountered some toys that did have a stink to them so I can still distinguish toys which do smell--it isn't entirely down to my sense of smell.

Why aren't you taking more precautions to protect your health rather than just giving up and not trying to avoid the dangers?

>>11632275
Do you have nothing better to do on a Saturday than dump walls of text, arguing with anyone and everyone about literally anything? This isn't even about toys anymore.

>>11632265
Not to defend Chinese bootlegs, but the fact that the warning label exists is simply because they DON'T want to test their shit.
It's the same reason toys have NOT A TOY. NOT FOR CHILDREN labels on them, because they're just following some regulation for not spending the money to test their shit.

The plastic that they use is probably left over plastics from the last MEDICOM or HASBRO figure that they made in their factory or maybe it was "borrowed", because bootleg toys save money like this.

And usually it isn't even the company putting the warning label, but the retailer, because it needs to comply with California laws to sell shit in California.
So the 54 year old woman who sells the toy has no idea the toy even uses plastic, but the webstore tells her she needs to upload documentation to prove her product doesn't use CbAppppppp^2+HXQ chemicals and it'll take 2 weeks for the client to check her documents or she can click on a check box to put the Prop 65 warning label to instantly list it.
Which is easier?

>>11632290
CT Toys is a company of 54 year old women? I doubt it, they know what they are selling, especially since it specifically lists DEHP. They could've just said Phthalates as some toys do rather than the specific type of Phthalate, since there are multiple types.

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>>11632251
>Due the probabilistic nature of reality, you cannot reliably make the claim you did in the second part of the post that figures with PVC with DEHP won't cause cancer, since it isn't that black and white.

>>11632251
>>11632265
>>11632275
>>11632288
>>11632290
this all reeks of chatgpt

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>>11632296
Nope, that's real congealed human autism there, anon. With expertise. ChatGPT wouldn't even care that much about toys and how phthalates are used in them.

>>11632293
Does the physical packaging have the warning label or is it just the website? Because if it's just Aliexpress, then a granny clicked on whatever aliexpress suggested for her to click.

>>11632288
at this point, you might as well be worrying about EMF from the electirical wiring in your house and not using a cellphone, because they're literally more dangerous than the chemicals in your toys.

Do you also boil all your food? Because any sort of char is more cancerous than your toys.
Do you not eat processed meat? Literally cancerous too.
And this is shit that is DEFINATELY cancerous that you are 100% putting into your body, versus possibly maybe inhailing a single molecule from a chemical by putting it near your face.

There's a difference between taking proper precautions and being paranoid. You're living in a safer environment than people did 50 years ago and those people lived into their 70s, up to a hundred years of age. And people today aren't living that much longer either. Even people from the 1800s didn't live much longer, even when you exclude the infant/child morality rate.
So whatever you think you're protecting yourself from isn't going to make much of a difference to your health like oyu think it does.

Granted, maybe cellphone towers and cellphones will lead every generation Z kid who grew up with it dying of brain cancer at age 50.... but... that'll affect you too and it certainly wasn't your toys that did you in, because the chemicals in toys have been in use for almost a hundred years now. It's a known issue and it obviously hasn't affected people (unless they're some taxi driver who was in their car 7 hours everyday, 5 days a week, for 20 years of their life or working inthe factory that makes the chemical without proper protection on), hence its continued use in everyday products.

also, microplastics are everywhere and most of that shit isn't from your toys. btw. It's from your clothes, food containers, carpet, etc.

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I expect that if the default head was the alternate head this figure would've sold 10% more just due to human nature.

>>11627729
Best Spiderman figure since Revoltech Iron Spider.

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>>11632137
>That's because a vast amount of chemicals in use in toys, and pretty much anything in modern society is possibly toxic since corporations can just make whatever abomination chemical they want and worry about if its safe later when a regulatory body complains. Then they just change to a new chemical that isn't tested yet after the previous one is implicated. They don't have to prove the chemical is safe before they put it in the product. Remember Triclosan? Was in tons of stuff like beauty products and soap until the FDA finally declared it not GRAS and it was pulled.
https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M?si=FZL28ejY7c4wuu0X

>>11631618
Completely broken under John Byrne, or the one she wore for 1 issue because they were using that for Force Works for short-haired Wanda?

>>11632367
it isn't even out retard

>>11632401
Force works Wanda, as she had the look in the last issue of AWC

>subjectautist has been arguing and picking fights about random shit, now including chemical composition, for over a week now.
The fuck is his problem?

>>11632492
That issue was so weird. Nothing was the problem with the Wackos during the crossover they claim the shutdown is following, the alleged problems the East-coast branch make ben much worse offenders of (the most blatant is how in the time they both existed, the East Avengers branch got their base of operations totaled three times while the West Coast Avengers are still using their original location). Or how the East Coast team straight up didn't exist for a while. Even if you had to pretend the concerns were real and not just because the book was being canned, they could have at least used "The Avengers are no longer UN-sanctioned, so we are doing a complete reworking our structure" to justify it.

It would be good if no more desirable Marvel Legends come out for a few months so we could all save money. Let's have some newer looks so we can skip them.

>>11632691
No one is forcing you to buy these things. Coming on here and whining about how you need a break isn't our problem.

>>11632691
Can we get a pinless classic Namor Hasbro? Yours truly, namorfan1488

You retarded arguing faggots, your endless arguing killed the thread.

>>11632691
>post about toys

>>11632716
>post not about toys and the poster should kill himself

>>11632728
>post about a toy that won't go as hoped
they'd put it on the vulcan body and it'll look awful and the monkeys paw wins again

>>11632755
Fuck off faggot. Post your toys if you want to discuss them so badly and quit whining to me about telling someone else to stop THEIR whining.

You are all soft, weak men.

I'd love for a classic Magik but I'd be okay with a two-for if she comes back for the Rivals stuff.

>>11632832
Isn't classic Magik just a woman in normal clothes? At least that is what she looked like in God Loves, Man Kills

>>11632841
incorrect
classic magik is a loli in a babuskha

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I hate the lighter blue. If they made it s tad darker it would be a lot better. Mafex still reigns supreme, so it's not like it matters. Glad people who like the thicker proportions have an option, but still, looks yucky imo.

>>11632858
>That pic
Anthony is pleased with the upgrade this figure got

>>11632841
It depends. >>11632844 is correct that she's a child until she gets snatched up. I meant more her New Mutants look with the horns and all, but I would be okay with one like the New Mutants #50 cover or Illyana and Storm #4. Any Illyana at this point, besides the one we have now. Fuck it give me her Phoenix Force look

>>11632858
I also am not the biggest fan of the overly rounded eyes. I know he was sometimes drawn like that but I think it looks doofy. Not to say I'm more of a fan of the overly angular eyes in that pic, the other head Mafex did is pretty perfect imo.

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She seems to stand a bit better than the old Enchantress, I'm surprised. Are the feet not just the same parts?

>>11632903
I think the only part that's literally the same is the chest

>>11632914
Weird. The head even has the same expression basically. It's like they're burning money making new molds and redoing the character almost the same rather than just doing a different character that would need new molds. It isn't like they're saving much with that chest reuse, although I'm sure it's appreciated they didn't Disney it.

Guys I have a questions, if you have these figures, can you take a picture of MvC Venom next to Johnny Ghost Rider. I'd like to see how tall Venom is.

>>11632917
It's reusing parts, just not from the previous figure. The arms might be new but the entire lower half of the figure is reuse from something else.

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>>11632929
>entire lower half of the figure is reuse from something else.
The bottom torso and the dress aren't. Which is really ridiculous and makes me think they no longer have the dress mold since there was really no reason to resculpt it since it's a floating piece. For how much they skimp on molds, they make some bad decisions on when to not reuse.

>>11632942
I mean it's hardly a big deal tbqh. It's not like the old dress overlay was better. You guys will find any excuse to bitch. You bitch when there's reuse, when there isn't reuse. I'm convinced you'll just never be happy with anything.

>>11632948
When random fans know better how to allocate a billion dollar company's allocated budget for a figure wave than the billion dollar company does, that is an issue, and means we could be getting more. More mold reuse where appropriate would allow more of that budget to go to something else, like maybe giving Werewolf by Night some damn accessories.

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>>11632716
Nobody's forcing anyone to do anything but it's often way harder to get things if you sleep on them. My main money sink hobby is comic omnibuses and there's a few I lost out on just because I waited. FOMO is a real bitch in these kinds of hobbies.

>>11632982
>When random fans know better how to allocate a billion dollar company's allocated budget for a figure wave than the billion dollar company does
Lol, lmao even. Don't huff your own farts anon. You'll get brain damage from the fumes.

But seriously, nothing would satisfy you. Even if they did exactly as you said for a wave you'd still find something to get upset about.

>>11632983
>>11632716

It's very hard to be on all the time, constantly monitoring preorders for multiple lines. It becomes less fun. It's easier when things are just available and there is no exclusive shit or danger of missing a figure and having to pay through the nose

>>11632986
What it actually means is someone in that billion dollar company who are supposed to be factoring out these figure budgets is not doing their job properly.

>>11633005
When was the last Marvel Legends that was difficult to get? Psylocke/Thanos and Savage Land are the only two products I recall being difficult to get this year. Certain lines, you're not wrong, but for MLs pre orders rarely sell out everywhere and often times even open back up. I mean you can get the mini comic wave on Hasbro Pulse right now. They're in stock. For the most MLs are relatively easy to get.

>>11633007
Says some random goober on 4chan lmao.

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>>11632926
I just have the one from the rhino wave but i think they're the same sculpt anyway, hope this helps

>>11633016
That's the one! Thank you, he's not that short then. I think the skull head will not look that small in a Romankey big buy body.

>>11633009
>for MLs pre orders rarely sell out everywhere
Mystique, maybe a few others besides the 2 you mentioned. Mystique may come back though but it'll be too late for those who wanted a deal.

>>11633009
You shouldn't HAVE to preorder.

>>11633037
Why is it such a big deal? Most places don't charge you until it ships and allow you to cancel without hassle anytime before it ships. Seems pretty simple tbqh.

>>11633039
Because the entire point is I may want to buy something AFTER it's been released rather than before.

>>11633042
Yeah, gonna have to agree with this anon. If you think about it for a second, buying a product before it’s even been released or reviewed is very much a consoomer mindset and kinda faggoty

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It's time for Stegron

>>11633061
I'd also at least like to be able to get some of these a few months down the road. And I'm not even talking about the obscure characters either.

>>11633139
Stegron more like StegYAWN!

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>>11633149
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens!

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>>11633159
try me, bitch.

>>11627577

>>11627577
Nice

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>be me
>Got the 40th Ann ironman
>The neck disc is crooked

Well I tempted fate and got 2 more figures.

Both are crooked in the neck.

I wonder what is the issue here? They cant hold the disc straight when it goes through the injection process?
But the previous releases seem to be ok; or at least not as noticeable as this
3 out of 3? This is clearly some faulty manufacturing.

I am not asking for perfection here. But I would think having the joints in their proper position would be the minimal.

So, should I give one of the unopened figure to my niece or something?

>You should use the money for a war machine

I never like the war machine design for some reasons

>>11633215
>Buying the same toy three times due to a slight QC issue
I am so thankful everyday that I don't have whatever flavor of autism this is.

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>>11630142
Thanks!
I've finally started the repairs...

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>>11633268
Repaired.

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Does anyone know a good place to get that purple cotton stuff? I want to make the Nightcrawler teleport effect.

>>11633215
Pretty sure it's a design flaw in the figure. You are only rewarding Hasbro's incompetence by buying more. That's the opposite of the proper market response to stop Hasbro's bad behavior.

>>11632501
Pure unadulterated 100% organic grass fed autism

>>11633215
they’re all like that

>>11629979
Could you take some more Spiral photos? This is a really good custom

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Time to make nice to the public, eh Summers?

>>11633215
Tonyface isn't enough to hide who you are. Stay defective and going crazy from your own guilt.

>>11633311
How much for you to customize my spiral like that?

>>11633359
Make sure not to fight any recognizable villains either, Scott. Remember fucking Ort? Cassiday wasted his talent drawing Ort instead of Apocalypse.

>>11633390
Who'd win in a fight between the Ort-Beast and Oort the Living Comet if the fight takes place on the Blue Area of the Moon in 1900?

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>>11633215
Here's mine. Can't tell if it also has the issue like your or not.

>>11633390
Yeah the Breakworld stuff was a tad uninspired. At least design wise. I thought Danger was a cool idea and had a cool design. I also enjoyed the Cassandra Nova/Sebastian Shaw/Negasonic Teenage Warhead mindfuck thing with Emma.

>>11633390
>>11633394
Also is was Ord, not Ort.

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$35 is cheaper than even the previous Riders were. Grab it if you don't have it already, it's great.

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>>11633399
Ironically this Black Friday, on Amazon, prices only go up, not down. BBTS deals don't look great, but they're better than prices going up.

>>11633415
This has been a known thing for years. They raise prices on items in the weeks leading up to BF and then drop them back down to what they sit at all year to make it look like a deal. Are you new to online shopping or something?

>>11633396
Either way, no one in the history of Marvel Legends threads has ever suggested an Ord figure.

>>11632903
It's the pinless legs

>>11633395
>I thought Danger was a cool idea and had a cool design.

Oh fuck off. Danger was a piece of trash that was just another shallow attempt to try to make Xavier look bad.

>>11633399
>it's great.
The Hellcycle is.

>>11633390
>>11633463
>>11633485
>Reading Astonishing for the action
I think you missed the point a bit there. The set pieces for Astonishing are only backdrops for the more character driven storytelling that Wheadon tends to do. You have plenty of mindless action, Astonishing is for character introspectives and development.

>>11633528
>Astonishing is for character introspectives and development.
Except the only development is massive character hit pieces and him wanking off Kitty.

>>11633539
Emma too

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He's alright. There are a lot of nice things about him, like his feet being able to rotate and having a ball joint at the base of the neck in addition to the dumbell joint in the neck piece itself. But for every step forward, we take one back. The torso articulation is severely lacking in mobility. He can twist just fine but there's barely any crunch. We need ball waists on figures like these, it would make this figure a legit 9/10.

>>11633528
Bud, he undid one of the most poweful sacrifices for a character ever (Colossus) just so he could ship him. Don't talk about Wheadon's character """development""" again.