Previous:>>11642841
>$43
>>11646445Reposting my rant.This confirms what I noticed, Rook's head mode looks like utter shit now because it transforms differently, now Rook's arms are the same as Mirror's, meaning the horns are too low in head mode.They always need to fucking reinvent the wheel and fuck up something. Is it really that difficult to look at an old design and understand why it was made in a certain way in the first place?The head modes are the most important part of these minicons, for fucks sake. But it goes beyond that, the individual modes have less articulation than the originals (the removable Rook's legs and Crosswise's arms are solid pieces).It's baffling to me that the old toy looks better and better when I compare it to this, and that thing can barely pose. This was supposed to be the Sideways I always wanted back then, but it really isn't.
>>11646445between this, Swindle, and the TFOne Alpha Trion the 2026 voyagers are a fucking joke so far. It's like all the budget went into the 86 seeker mold.
>>11646447I think the new minicons are smaller so the head modes are on par with titan master heads.The changes and solid limbs were probably made due to concerns over fragility or child safety.
>>11646445this is such a bad designi dont care how much it costs-it's just lame and boring looking. I don't get the "hype" (i see people keep talking about this figure here and outside of 4chan). It's not a big deal.The old toy was kind of "meh" as well.What gives?Any Titans Return-level design is better than that (even Skullcruncher). I don't get the hype
He's so damn good, pardners.
>>11646487The "hype" wasn't about the design, it was about the character. Sadly, it seems they've done him dirty.
>>11646261god imagine how many transformers characters he'd be good as...if Garry Chalk either dies or stays sick or stays retired (i mean fuckin let him at this point, he's earned it) I'd love a Keith David Primal.>B-but offensive-gorillas are cool and awesome to be associated with. >>11646371huh, his shoulder attachment points seem pretty low, but then I'd never raise his snake-arm that high anyway.actually, is that part on a pivot like the original? you might not have it lined up.can't wait til I have a few cents to rub together and can get this guy>>11646417how can a word be offensive to use as the name of a robot dinosaur if it has a non-offensive homograph related to metalworking?and yes, american education basically excusively covers this. which things are offensive and what the rules are.>>11646491you have the original to compare to by any chance?
>>11646493>if Garry Chalk either dies or stays sick or stays retired (i mean fuckin let him at this point, he's earned it)Garry's still voice acting. i think he's gonna keep doing it till the end.
See, titty
>>11646498god bless him. i too would love to die in the recording booth.come on, morons at hasbro. greenlight ONE more Beast Wars thing. One that... eh.. broadstrokes away Beast Machines without killing Primal off (or has him return as some kind of matrix oracle guy with a cool new altmode), brings back the old writers and characterization, uhh gives the actors of dead characters new characters to voice since they're dead.. and gives us some closure to the best part of the entire franchise. then? fuckin.. do transtech or whatever.
>>11646447It is a shame, but I'm sure DNA will come out with a set. Sideways himself at least looks decent, but it is absolutely insane they were not able to at least match the quality of engineering for the minicons of the original, especially at the price they're charging.
>>11646508>brings back the old writersIf you want the Beast Wars guys, black magic might be necessary to get Larry DiTillio back to partner up with Bob Forward again. But, Marty Isenberg, a main writer on Beast Machines and the main writer of Animated, is still alive.
>>11646508Beast Machines is fine, stop trying to act like it's some "le heckin' Kiss Players" abomination that doesn't belong.
>>11646546It is though.
They should make new toys of the Vehicon generals. I'm actually suprised they didn't retool
>>11646546Yeah it’s fine, but going from Beast Wars to it is a bit of a whiplash. I always kind of wish they went with the originally proposed Beast Hunters idea instead
>>11646553Did tankor get a hardhead retool? that art looks 1:1 the TR toy
>>11646558No, a lot of Fun Pub's stories (especially Beast Wars Uprising) liked to repurpose toy molds as characters that didn’t have new toys at the time (usually to convince HasTak to let them use the newer mold to make a convention toy). Jetstorm and Thrust are also repurposed molds, Thrilling 30 Armada Starscream and Combiner Wars Deluxe Groove, respectively
>>11646552Waspinator doesn't belong in Beast Wars but nobody has made a Phantom Edit of that show yet. You'll live, crybaby.
>>11646553When did Galvatron become a Vehicon?
>>11646566https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars_Uprising
>>11646445Absolutely disappointment, they got the design wrong, the horns are formed by its legs, not the arms.
>>11646487>Purple bike transformer with a rider robot that separates into two different guys that transform into cool as fuck ninja heads with horns that change him into an Autobot or a Decepticon>I don't get the hypePic related. Also Sideways and his backstabbings was what made Armada more fun to watch, without him it would have been even more of a slog. Absolute shame that the new toy looks that bad, he deserved better.
Nobody listens to techno
>>11646580New Rook doesn't turn upside down when combining with Crosswise into Mirror, his legs are not Mirror's arms anymore, they just share arms. That's why in head mode they're in the wrong position and it looks terrible.Not only that but now Mirror's head isn't even stored inside Rook's body, it's just on his back. And Rook's head ends up on Mirror's chest. And they couldn't even be bothered to have sliding panels like the originals to hide the head mode eyes.
>>11646590That's bad redesigned. I hate seeing Hasbrony shilling whenever Hasbro released an inferior product, and be like oh it's a budgetary reason please understand, you must buy what they produce to support them in order to get more products release.
>>11646586This, Armada is just G1 for Zoomers now it's there turn to want shitty designs because they saw it on TV.
>>11646586The body is ok, it's the heads that ended up a mess. No fucking clue how they managed this, when they fucking partsform.
>>11646445"I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! YOU MUST BOW DOWN TO MY ALMIGHTY BUNGHOLE"!
>>11646588
>>11646645>The body is okThe feet look really bad and the bike mode has egregious hinges that were perfectly hidden in the original, but it's decent enough. The problem is that the head is one of the most important things in a design, our eyes are usually drawn to that point, and if they ruin that they ruin everything.Something I always wished the original toy had was heads more accurate to the anime, because they looked really cool there, and this new one managed to make them look worse than the old toy. Misplaced horns on Rook and an obvious hinge on Crosswise's faceplate.
>>11646635The difference is Armada (well, Micron Legend) is actually good.
>>11646696G1 is extremely dumb but really fun with the correct mindset. Micron Legend has good ideas but executes them poorly and meanders way too much. Even the second part of the show isn't as good as people thinks.All in all, both are bad for different reasons, like most Transformers media.
>>11646586for real giggles, read how the TFwiki totally fucked things up in reporting on this characterhttps://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Sideways_(disambiguation)
>>11646716It’s crazy that it all started because someone falsely believed that Robotmasters was a multiversal toyline and claimed that Takara declared that RID Sideways was supposed to be Armada Double Face
>>11646722people REALLY need to stop listening to these dopes
>>11646530they had a falling out, eh?which one of them is the Eastman and which is the Laird? because we want the Laird>>11646546Even its greatest defenders say that it's still not a good SEQUEL TO BEAST WARSand since that's what we want here, that has to be shunted off as a weird alternate universe, so we can continue where BW left off.. use some of the best ideas BM had, but leave out the rest. I'm okay with Nightscream, just make him more like convobat.
>>11646723To be fair, that was all the way back in 2005, so it’s not like people had easy access to stuff like that to fact check it, and it seems like a really weird thing to lie about
>>11646556any details on that idea? do we have some sketches or did it never get beyond a text description?>>11646563>Wazzzpinatorrr is BEZZT PART of Beazzzt Warzz! Comic relief mixzzed with GENUINE THREAT! ... In zzeazon one..
>>11646727>they had a falling out, eh?No, what that anon meant with "get DiTillio back" is that he's been dead for six years.
>>11646731awww. RIP, you made gud beast warsI'm sure Bob Forward can carry on on his own though, if such a project were to go ahead. or maybe pick another writing partner he's had luck with. or if there's any leftover ditillio notes to use, then yknow give him a posthumous credit.
I just found a Laser Optimus and Tigerhawk for $20 each in a department store. They were hiding in aisles I wouldn't have thought to check!
>>11646744nicely job! now you can use the money you saved on the tigerhawk DLC pack to fill in his wings, and a set of MP-scaled thirdparty hands to replace his dinky hands.
>>11646693And I agree with you, there's no excuse for fucking up heads or faces, and Sideways here is a mess. A shame considering how well Cybertron Sideways turned out.
>>11646729I assume there’s some art out there, but the only thing public is the Fox Kids blurb about the series “BEAST HUNTERS, the next evolution of the popular Beast Wars franchise, continue their fight against the evil dragon Megatron and his hordes of Predacons in 13 all-new episodes with cutting edge computer animation, action, adventure and humor, produced by Mainframe Entertainment.”I just like the idea of flipping the premise of what led to the Beast Wars “Maximal dominate society with a Predacon underbelly” on its head more than “Megatron enslaved everyone and turned them into unfeeling drones”
>>11646765>13 episodesjesus, in the 90s that was like "we'll give you a pilot, then you're on your own">flipping the premise on its headdo you mean by having the preds kinda rise up and largely overthrow, gaining back more than half of what they lost? so now the maximals are on the defensive again? because I feel like this setting sorta went startrek-y for a reason.. gigantic wars can only go on so long, and now that time travel has been invented and is as easy as just stealing a ship, outright warfare is suuuper dangerous to *everybody*
>>11646769>jesus, in the 90s that was like "we'll give you a pilot, then you're on your own"I’m pretty sure that’s also what Beast Wars also got initially>do you mean by having the preds kinda rise up and largely overthrow, gaining back more than half of what they lost?Yeah, although I realize that premise also just matches what the situation between the Autobots and Decepticons was. I just think it’s too bleak to basically kill off everyone on Cybertron (including several main characters of the previous show) just so Megatron can have a drone army that follows his every command>and now that time travel has been invented and is as easy as just stealing a ship, outright warfare is suuuper dangerous to *everybody*I guess, though I’m not sure it’s ever explained why the Maximals or Vehicons can’t do that in Beast Machines either
>>11646508I always felt like Peter Cullen and Frank Welker should do one last Transformers thing as the voices of Primus and Unicron. It could be the ultimate good guy opposite the ultimate bad guy, as corny as it sounds. That said, Cullen's last role is probably going to be Optimus in one of the new live action movies, and Welker's will be in some random Scooby-Doo movie.
>>11646787I'm fuzzy, but from what I remember, the cast (outside of Megatron and possibly Dinobot and/or Tatantulas) didn't know they could time travel. In terms of ships, I assume most have that capability blocked by default and the only reason the cast end up enabling it, is because the ship Megatron took was modded, and the Maximals piggybacked off the Predacon ship (or where unblocked by Maximal High command in the event he was trying to time travel).
>>11646791Frank's last role being him reprising Fred would be fitting though given it was one of his first voice roles
>>11646512The body is very modern hasbro. Sideways, and a lot of other characters at the time had very sleek organic shapes baked into their designs. Sideways and Big Convoy are excellent excellent examples of how the squat square proportions of modern transformers destroy the looks of thwse newer figures. Sideways should be tall and slender with more mass focused across the top. That they crunched his hips up next to his windscreen again and bulked his legs up more, alongside completely fucking up the foot orientation ruins his lean, sleek silhouette.
>>11646787was it implied most everyone on cybertron was killed? I thought megatron paralyzed them all with his virus, essentially doing to them what the ark and nemesis crews did for a few million years.>why they can'tMaximals can, the question is how Megatron didn't get ahold of transwarp tech.. but the answer is A) he doesn't need it now, he rules Cybertron (and it was risky enough the last time, best not fuck with what's working), and B) the new writers did not watch the old show
>>11646791everything you've said here is true and I would love that casting. though I'm imagining Welker doing his Soundwave/Dr.Claw voice for Unicron.>>11646793Maximals control the transwarp tech, Megatron STOLE a ship, I believe one that was captured because it was still a Pred ship. It's like how the romulans cucked the federation into not doing any cloaking research, and anytime someone thought that was bullshit and tried to sneak around, they were portrayed as villains.I'm pretty sure Rattrap's Axalon was always transwarp-capable. Maximals are literally programmed for good, they can be trusted.
>>11646597>please buy our shitty $45 toy, yes it's inferior to the 20 year old version, but look, "modern articutation"!This shit kills the fuck out of me so bad. People accepting inferior products because le "its better than the original because this one has knees!" Is so beyond ignorant. If the gimmicks and style of the original toys were preserved there would be no issue. Hasbro CAN do an upgrade of original toys, they proved that for the most part with Magmatron and to an extent Override (if her gun was better). Some of the modern figures are damn good, they are just massively overpriced for what similar offerings can do and the remakes always have some weird jank shit going on that stands out as a massive eyesore.Why the hell does the titan class sparkdrinker NOT OPEN INTO AXE MODE
>>11646745Holy shit, they are dinky.
>>11646812>That they crunched his hips up next to his windscreen again You said it: again. That's what makes it even worse. That was one of the most obvious proportions issues that had to be fixed from the original toy and they managed to completely fail to notice.And they also bulked up the forearm purple panels. They truly are unable to do the more curved and lean designs justice nowadays.
>>11646813I thought the implication is that’s where all the drones came from, all of the dead bodies from the virus were converted into new drones
>>11646822well that's what missing link is forwould be nice if they started missing-linking 90s and 00s transformers.
>Blade Liger vs Gojulas Giga
>>11646824consequence of the transformation. I appreciate that they're TRYING to hide them instead of leaving them visible like the original, AND i appreciate no forearm hollows, but.. this doesn't work, and would have been better served by having forearm panels slide over the fists to hide them in beast mode.
>>11646835shit, I was not aware of that. I thought they were just converted, like the generals, and assumed converted back in the finaleif that's not so, BM's ending is even fucking weirder than before, because they've saved.. an empty planet, just covered it in plants, but with no people. just like the eco guys want
>>11646844fuckin rad. Trypticon always WAS a Zoid. More of a regular Gojulas mixed with a Deathsaurer, but still.that's the um RMZ right? Love that they're giving them effects finally, even if the smaller scale is keeping me from giving them a chance.
>>11646791That worked for Batman:TB&TB's episode Chill of the Night. They had Kevin Conroy as The Phantom Stranger and Mark Hamill as The Specter bidding for Batman's soul.
>>11646553The Beast Machines rennaisance is nigh!
>>11646851oh yeah that was tits
>>11646848Yeah, Realize Model. Hobby Lobby has 40% off on model kits, so I picked it up on a whim. Its pretty nice build and well articulated.Also picked up the Tryptixon from Ross at the same time
>>11646588sick, i just copied that weapon styling
FUCK AUTOBOTS
>>11646879that's not intended? what DO those parts usually do?
>>11646866It is still disappointing that Shield D Prime isn't using Lio Convoy as the base with Shield Liger bits attached to it.
>>11646813>was it implied most everyone on cybertron was killed?He paralyzed them, then sent his drones to rip their Sparks out. Said Sparks were then stuffed in a massive jar that we see a bunch of times, and the bodies of the now-lifeless Cybertronians were then collected and recycled into more drones.
>>11646898that would not work for shit for a bunch of reasons, but I do wish we got a more creative transformation than 'literally the transforming lion mech I made up when I was 15' and I also wish they did a better job on zoid mode's legs, they look weirdly empty in back.. it might end up being something you can fanmode or articulate into looking better, Iunno. I also wish the head was bigger, but that's most zoid releases since like 2008.I'm getting it because nothing like that will ever happen again, but only because I went in with a dozen other guys to have someone in japan buy us some for cheap. Otherwise it was NOT happening.>>11646899oh right right RIGHT, the spark jar. Okay so they're not dead, but they're in serious trouble. Presumably the great reformatting rebuilt their bodies and they quickly flew back into them, though realistically at least a tenth of them would just die because sparks need to be inside bodies.
>>11646847The people are seen running over the horizon after all the sparks fly free (the run animation loop is a bit awkward looking)
>>11646897i couldn't find a pic outside of this board of someone using ss86's crane arm as a melee weapon, and this is the first i've seen of using the shovel as a pointy endi know other versions do that, but everyone else just has those parts stored on the body
>>11646904ohhh i see! very clever. I always appreciate when a weapon is distinctly different from what it was in the altmode. just wielding a crane arm would not be that cool.
>>11646848>Trypticon always WAS a Zoid. More of a regular Gojulas mixed with a Deathsaurer, but still.Look up King Gojulas
>>11646906anon, I don't need to look it up, I have one. I built that motherfucker. His box had a HANDLE it was so big.yes, the separated eyes are very Trypticonnish, but almost everything else about him is more vanilla gojulas, and he has what is clearly a cockpit on his head (just a cockpit for a gun). And separate-eyes-vs-canopy is often a factional thing in zoids, so.. I mean if you interpret his cockpit thingy as a horn, which I believe the remold of Trypticon had, then YEAH, then it's King Gojulas. on account of he had a horn.
>>11646909er,>the separated eyes on trypticon are very King G, but everything else about him is regular Gsorry I fucked that up
>>11646844I'm honestly jealous, I really want one for half off.
>>11646882why is Shuffler there?
Hollow niggas
>>11646923ehhhhhh, it's a dark color, it's in BACK not on the inner surfaces, and it has SOMETHING inside it. This is acceptable to me. barely.
Is Hasbro going to do a restock of Earth Rise 2 pac, Ironhide and Prowl?
Headmasters concept art.
>>11646952https://www.tfraw.com/p/planet-of-cybertron-guide-4.htmlMore here.
>>11646955Huh. Earliest Scorponok had a very different aesthetic.
>>11646955Punch/Counterpunch's early concept is extremely underwhelming.
>>11646969It's funny to think we the one we got is the more complicated refined version of the idea. On the other hand, somehow even funnier>Hey, anyone ever tell you that you look like that one Autobot?>The incredibly handsome Punch? Pfft, no way, I'm CLEARLY covered in spikes and he isn't.
>>11646955ooh that top scorpion mode is like 60% of a Guysack
>>11646976So it actually was a Zoids? I thought that was just my ignorance on mechanical design assuming it was one.
>>11646923I haven't bought any of the 12 Primes, and this sure isn't changing my mind.
>>11646975he's the keythong of transformers
>>11646982nah but it's very similar. The leg shapes, the canopy head, the way the back of the abdomen has kind of a little hump with weapons attached to the sides.
>>11646996Just noticed the head transforms in this concept. The blocks on the side unfold into horns, and I guess his side blocks fold up from behind.
Tarantulas and Black Arachnia are always such a pain to work into group shots because of their damn arm legs.>>11646493Hearing Keith David yell 'Maximize!' would be pretty badass.And I sadly do not have the original for comparison, but I sorely wish I did. Quickstrike was the first Transformer anyone ever bought me, so I'll admit that nostalgia plays a role in how effusive I've been with my praise of the new figure.
>>11647059Looking at Quickstrike I kind of wish they had made the legs slightly assymetrical so that this version the "claw" could close more when in robot mode.
>>11646998Makes sense, the guysack predates scrponok by what... 3-4 years?Wild how much more modern the mechanical design of zoids is compared to diaclone in the same time period.
>>11646697People remembering armada is good are remembering Starscreams death and everything that happens once the actual unicron fight starts.The final Optimus/Galvatron fight stands as one of the best fights in all of transformers fiction.>>11646722Honestly I wish Sideways was treated better across the franchise since his introduction. He's the literal mouthpiece of Unicron, and was capable of twisting everything around him to perfectly line up in time for his masters arrival. Had Galvatron not suicided against Optimus he would have succeeded, even if he himself was already dead. His nature as a living being is also super interesting, is he the bike? Is he Rook and Crosswise? Is he Mirror? Is he Unicron himself? Is he posessed by Unicron? If the bike is alive, but not Sideways, are the heads controlling the bike? If he is the bike why, when he gets absolutely fucking annihilated by the Requiem Blaster does Mirror start gloating with Sideways's voice? He really should be Unicrons hand among the cast in more media, the idea that there is a character playing both sides in service to the greater threat of Unicron is fantastic. The concept of a hybrid of the armada and G1 situation where he manipulates Megatron into being forced into Unicrons services as his herald all the while continuing to infiltrate the Autobots is too good. Especially so if he IS actually Unicron in the body of a cybertronian.Also the abandoned unicron cell version really should be used as a true form of him once the schrade doesn't need to be maintained anymore.
I already fucked up my $20 Tigerhawk by pushing his right foot all the way in even though there wasn't enough clearance. Normally I don't do dumb shit like that but the last Optimus Prime figure I bought required extra force and I thought it would be like that.
>>11647090That sucks ass, man. I love TF, obviously, but the thing I really hate about this particular subset of collecting is how inconsistent the durability of some of these parts feel. Sometimes it feels like trying to make two pieces of glass fit together and others you might as well need to take a hammer to them to get them to come together properly.
>>11646949No? What are you talking about?
>>11647087Honestly his design and gimmick are the LEAST interesting part of him because he has all that potential going for him instead. But instead what we got is a fandom who likes the part of the fiction where the Autobots and Decepticons get duped by the obvious same guy.>Prime, how can you not tell that's the agent of Unicron itself, Sideways!?>Optimus:
>>11647115All of this is true, but I feel like it's also an issue with Transformers in general. Like, Autobot or Decepticon, who the fuck would ever trust a bot named Doubledealer?
>>11647122>I need to do business with someone. Got any names you can trust?>How about ol' Swindle? He'll hook you up.
>>11647122I think it’s implied or said that Doubledealer calls himself either Double or Dealer when doing business with either side, so they don’t suspect him of being a double agent
>>11647127I think if that's the case it's a retcon made later to try and make it less silly.
>>11646809i genuinely think at this point Frank has voiced Fred longer than Mel Blanc did any of his Looney Tunes roles.
>>11647087i think Armada's take on Unicron is genuinely brilliant, the whole idea of creating the minicons from his own cells as a means to perpetuate war and conflict from the Transformers and feed off of that to satiate his hunger, its some really out there heavy dark stuff. its great. I feel like Unicron as a character peaked her cause its never felt like since then they've really known what do with him.Energon - it's Energon, kinda contradicts that final shot of Armada implying Unicron isn't truly defeatable, oh now he's just a giant head like in Season 3 of G1 and Megatron/Galvatron wants to revive him cause reasons and....i just feel like they didn't know where to take him beyond his destruction creates the black hole in Cybertron/Galaxy Force which ok fair enough is a good threat. Prime and Bayverse - Earth is Unicron which on paper at first sounds great but then you realize its insanely limiting and you can't really do much with it because the Earth would be destroyed if Unicron awakened properlyIDW - absolute slog to read through his arc, he's just some alien pissed about the Transformers so he just decides to genocide them all and Optimus hugs him and it kills them both. ROTB - its basically just G1 again. they blew their load too quickly. Made what should've been the endgame finale a footnote, kinda like how the Fox X-Men films did Apocalypse. I'm kinda not surprised they don't tackle him much cause i think his scale and importance is maybe too great right now without a new interesting approach.
>>11646809This isn't really TF related, but going through Welker's 10 mile long filmography turned up what is maybe the the funniest credit I've ever seen for anything.
>>11647122You don't have to trust him. He's a mercenary. You hire him to do jobs wouldn't send your own men to do and don't care if he gets killed or not.
>>11647172You're right, but I don't think most mercenaries lie about being soldiers of fortune to their potential employers. Doubledealer's MO basically seems to be>Show up at Autobot/Decepticon base>Pretend to be loyal member of whichever army>???>Profit!
>>11647115In a way yeah it's disappointing that Sideways double face gimmick isn't utilized to it's full extent as a way to infiltrate both Autobots and Decepticons at roughly the same times. But on the other hand Armada's cast is small scaled compared to G1, it's basically a single company on both sides that have scouted themselves on Earth and fight each other for the Mini-Cons. Sideways can't really get away with being a shadowy figure and infiltrate both sides like a spy when all he has to differentiate himself is only his head and he's expected to fight alongside the team. I think what Armada/Micron Densetsu did with Sideways was ultimately still good, he was introduced helping the Autobots then probably realized that the Decepticons had most of the Mini-Cons so he betrayed Hot Shot and switched sides, helping the Decepticons collect the rest of the Mini-Cons which I assume is part of his plan to help stoke the fires of war and make Unicron stronger.>>11647160The best twist they ever did with Unicron and ties with the themes of the existence of War itself and whether Transformers have the capacity to do more than just fighting. Not to mention it plays with Unicron's imagery as Satan with those skeleton like wings of his and the Mini-Cons basically being steroid boosters spawned from the Dark Lord and sent out to the Transformers so that they receive a power boost and make the war even more fatal and chaotic and thus fueling Unicron in turn, just what any demon would do. And it makes Sideways look like the devil, two-faced with antlers on his head and serves as Unicron's loyal lieutenant who was sent in to ensure the fires of war are stoked.
>>11647200Did he? I never read anything he was actually in.That seems to over complicate his story.It should be the Autobots or Decepticons got a mission that looks like a total loss. They hire this guy and pay his price because he's the best and its too risky or difficult for the normal troops.
>>11647224>The best twist they ever did with Unicron and ties with the themes of the existence of War itself and whether Transformers have the capacity to do more than just fightingAnd provides a great and interesting reason for Megatron to have a believable change of heart. I'm not the biggest Armada fan, but I always loved seeing the most power hungry tyrant Cybertron has ever produced come to the realization that the price to be paid supreme power is, ultimately, too high even for him. Choosing to end his own existence for the future his people and the maybe even the universe is also extremely poetic. He's basically a nuke that chose to detonate itself so that future generations would be spared the horrors of nuclear war.
YA'LL IN THE MOOD FOR BARBEQUE?!
>>11647075you mean the feet slightly asymmetrical?the heels are meant to fit inside the toes, do they not do that anymore?>>11647082right? They started out REALLY fucking goofy, literally like "what kinda leg should this have?" "iunno, a steel I-bar girder" and swiftly became beast gundams.
>>11647087I also recall finding it confusing how there are multiple minicons involved in him>>11647095yeahh and the durable and nondurable parts work against each other, so the inconsistency is the worst part.>>11647145.... shit, that checks out. at least 6 years longer by my estimate
>>11647167i love that. I wish he'd do more interviews, it'd be so fun to hear about this stuff. I loved rob paulsen's voiceover podcast, I'm currently loving jim cummings' and to some extent butch hartman's (i both love and hate how he just kinda constantly talks, and interjects with his own impressions), but Frank never does those, he feels unworthy. I wanna hear him talk about playing 'spock's screams' while Jim talks about playing 'Scar hitting those high notes'
>>11647386that scale does not seem right..
>missed the $65 runabout by 15 minutes because i went to bedit's been nice knowing you /tfg/ i am ending it all
So...what's a warrior without weapons, eh?
>>11647228Nobody really trusts him but they also never really suspect him of working for the other faction.
>>11647412A WARRIOR STILL!
>>11647127Doubledealer as autobot, Dealdoubler as decepticon.
>>11647160You have the IDW backstory all wrong.Shockwave, who in IDW hated Cybertron for stealing his face, hands, and lobotomizing him of all emotions save murderous rage after he outed mass corruption in the Senate, ended up stranded in the past where he took over Cybertron society and nearly genocided an entire planet. The few remaining survivors then decided to go "fuck it" and using tech purposely left behind by Shockwave, to turn their planet into Unicorn so Unicorn would do Shockwave's bidding and genocide all Cybertronian life in existence
>>11647390Yeah, that. When you close the legs the toes/fingers touch tips. A hand like that I alwasy pictured closing more like a hair clip
>>11647417I always took Doubledealer as a Decepticon spy who's vulture mode was his real baseline mode als Skylynx and his humanoid form is his Autobot infiltration form and he takes great care to make sure no Autobot knows about his vulture mode
>>11646586Its way to expensive for the size.
>>11647424Well, you're right about the humanoid form being the Autobot infiltration form, since he uses Knok to assume it. He needs Skar for the vulture, though, so that means his actual baseline form is his ICBM carrier mode - it's the only form he can assume without needing a Powermaster linked to him.
>>11647424>Optimus: Autobots, transform and roll out!>Doubledealer: Uhhhh, I'm having issues with my transformation cog today. I'm just gonna follow behind on foot. Don't worry about it, it's fine.
>>11647414>>11647412i had no idea this character was so important.I'm a fan of beast wars but when this snake-scorpion arrived i wasn't watching it as a kid anymore. And as an adult i just rewatched what i saw as a kid (that season when Primal sacrifices himself an screams MEGATROOON and a bit after that)i watched youtube videos and it seems that this char. is Waspinator but even "less fortunate"
>>11647431was that just a toy based thing? I don't remember any fiction indicating they needed their engine to actually transform. the partners just gave them extra energy
Anyone put pics of all the G2 Dinobots together yet? Curious what that looks like.
>>11647444>was that just a toy based thing?Yes
>>11647407everything goes on sale again>>11647412huh, were his thighs always that short?>>11647414that scale definitely doesn't feel right.also nice job man, cool posing.
>>11647420hm pretty sure the original toy had it work really nicely, both pincers fit together into basically a comma shape
>>11647443he's also like, scorponok but less charming. loyal but fucking retarded. lots of good weapons, but easily scrapped. and worst of all, he's not even reprogrammed like the other preds, he was just -talked into- evil and he was like BOKAY!
>>11647443>I watched youtube videos and it seems that this char. is Waspinator but even "less fortunate"Not really. He's a murderous lunatic who doesn't think things through and tends to rush enemies. He's never really treated as a comic relief character the way Waspinator was, and he exists as a foil to Silverbolt.
>>11647461>he's not even reprogrammed like the other preds, he was just -talked into- evil and he was like BOKAY!His brain was fried by the Transwarp explosion, which amplified one personality trait of his (murderous tendencies) to extremes. Silverbolt is equally fucked in the head, but in a different way.
>>11647459>everything goes on sale againi know, i'm just an anxious retardthank you anon :)
>>11647461>loyal but fucking retarded. lots of good weapons, but easily scrapped. and worst of all, he's not even reprogrammed like the other preds, he was just -talked into- evil and he was like BOKAY!this sounds like a top tier characteri like Inferno for the same reason "retard that has tons of weapons but gets killed yet refuses to die">>11647462>He's a murderous lunatic who doesn't think things through and tends to rush enemies.b...based...i do that in Online games as well!!I will buy him and then continue watching Beast Wars to see him in action!
>>11647464yes yes, just saying. The others have specific pred programming making them psychos, he just got brain damage and chose evil. he 100% could have said "i think i'm hurt, can you guys help? and can I still frag predacons?" and they would have welcomed him in and rhinox could have repaired him maybe.>>11647465it's okay, if I had a dollar for every time I overspent a dollar because I didn't wait for an eventual sale, I'd have like, 300 additional dollars at least.
>>11647466yeah Inferno and Quickstrike fulfill a lot of the same role. the predacon dynamic got really interesting over time. Once tarantulas and blackarachnia fully defected, there was like.. megatron, some boobs, some psychos that Megatron had enslaved by various means, and waspinator (the king of the boobs)
>>11647462>He's a murderous lunatic who doesn't think things through and tends to rush enemies.
>>11647466so tempted to try this mode with tricranius..
>>11647467>I didn't wait for an eventual salethe issue is this is resales only and the sale i missed was like $100 cheaper than the ones up right now
>>11647474ahhh gotcha. Yeah those never stop hurting, but keep hunting. the hunt never ends.
>>11647469They literally do that joke in Season 3 - he charges at the Maximal base camp all by himself and gets gunned down by Sentinel cannons in a matter of seconds as a cutaway gag.
man, the skybound comic is gone to shit, even the art is shittier
>>11647542? The art is way better than the jumbled shit the last guy was putting out
>>11647563Lacks soul. Generic capeshit art now
I want more BW toys, how's WfC Megatron beat?
It's strange to think that there's still no sign of a Transmetal Megatron when they did S1 in 2020 and Transmetal 2 in 2022.
>>11647596would be nice to have ankle joints but that's probably unreasonable for multiple reasons.
>>11647127He does that in his only comic appearance in Marvel UK. Though there its less that he's a merc and more like he's a scammer/ con artist type who sets up the Autobots and Decepticons to fight each other while he makes off with the profits.
>>11647596When they do all the regular Tramsmetals.
>>11647577I feel your pain. I miss pre leprosy don figuroa artwork.
>>11647599All that would take would to put a perpendicular hinge behind the toe joint.Knowing hasbro they'll put the cut in the middle of his calve though.
What's the over-under on us getting SS86 Thundercracker as Skybound Thundercracker in a year or two? They announced the Skybound Optimus fairly fast.
>>11647609ugh probablyi mean the ankle is SORT OF sculpted in, yes, but so are the pistons and the .. the toe has to be able to flick up for skate mode, even though that's stupid and it should have been just the center toe.. (you notice in the show they stopped flipping them up, like in this shot)and really the.. the obvious joint spot, pictured in yellow is more his calf. while the joint in red is more his foot but there's no good sculpting for that there.
>>11647611Not likely, i feel thundercracker is just there to complete the og seeker trio as nobody really cared about him except for his IDW personality
>>11647611I don't see the point, it's basically just toon Thundercracker with a different symbol. Unless they go for a comic shaded look, but nobody liked those.
>>11647638>Unless they go for a comic shaded look, but nobody liked those.At least one person liked those. Comic Edition is my favourite thing Hasbro has done in years.
>>11647386He goes crazy on the grill
>>11647611Getting new SS86 Thundercracker and some shading decals would go hard I'm sure and basically be the best route
>>11647661Flame is so bad.
>>11647611More importantly, when do I get my Skybound Slipstream retool?
Realistically its not feasible as thundercracker has next to nothing attached to his name, also its not the first time he was an autobot
>>11647661>Dramatic Capture with the pack-in Shockwave headIf that's your picture you were just waiting for that moment.
>>11647674I had an idea for a different mold for him to use, but I can’t remember what it was now>>11647680Never, she is doomed to be nothing but Windblade retools and pretools for the rest of eternity
>>11647681It is the first time he's been an Autobo actually.
>>11647686He was an autobot in IDW
>>11647687It’s actually kind of vague whether he considers himself an Autobot or not. He joins them, but considers himself neutral, since he works with the EDC more often
>>11647684Seems like it would be easy to just recolor the 86 Thundercracker to that and paint lipstick on the mouth.
>>11647687>>11647690It's not vague at all, IDW Thundercracker left the Decepticons but never joined the Autobots.
>>11647665WHAT IN CARNE-TION?>>11647690this is always such a puss move. bad guys have multiple factions, if you're on the side of peace, you're with the good guy. and if you won't wear their sign, you're a coward.
>>11647680Ah, calling it now. Soundwave is going to revive them as part of his escape.
>>11647690>>11647699Autobots are the villains in IDW-1 so it's understandable they didn't make him one.
>>11647706>Autobots are the villains in IDW-1Lmao no
>>11647697I was just making a joke about HasTak refusing to make Slipstream out of any of the available Seeker molds. Both of her toys have been Windblade retools
>>11647701That implicitly says that the vast majority of the universe are cowards because they aren't wearing a certain badge.
>>11647714IF they 'join up' then yes. That's kind of important.This guy is very lucky their military gives people that level of freedom, so that he can be an 'unaffiliated ally without a faction,' but when you are fighting for control of your PLANET, maybe it's time to pick a side.Regular folk don't have to wear any badge, or even fly the flag if they don't want to. But it's encouraged. And it'd be pretty rotten to go more than a block or two without seeing one
Wonder of we'll get new toys of the Tripredacus Council anytime soon.
>>11647702Wonder how many bots will bite it when it happenes. Everyone on the Ark was revived, and aside from Blaster and Sideswipe, we know Ironhide and Prowl were among the guys we see in the first few issues.
>>11647729on one hand, I want to see ramhorn, cicadacon, and sea clamp completely redone from scratch because they basically only looked good in beast mode and, arms aside, the combined mode.on the other hand, their faces were not something I had a problem with. I mean maybe make Ramhorn's face more like his art than how his original toy interpreted it, but don't touch the others.. the CG faces were improvised quickly, and while not bad for a shadowy council, are not right here.Considering all the continuity nudges lately, we could always make the council separate guys from Tripredacus. Which then raises the question: altmodes? should they all three still be red even though that was a poorly-implemented attempt at dramatic lighting?
>>11647729Who gives a CACA about those VIEJOS MALOS when you could have the MUCHO MUCHO BUENO AMIGOS know as the funloving jointron brothers? When they're around its always a FIESTA!!!
>>11647729We've got 4 years ahead of double Commanders for main line while Studio Series hoards Titans. It should be possible to slot them in.
>>11647748You EEDIOT, if we get new Tripredacus, Los Hermanos Jointron are sure to come andale arriba as a repintura
>>11647611Just add some stickers yourself
>Upcoming Transformershttps://pastebin.com/tRu3Pm65>Leaks and Rumorshttps://pastebin.com/3AQr7as6>Online Stores for TFshttps://pastebin.com/3raSp3ZY>Where to watch TF shows:https://pastebin.com/sR4Y7xWi>Transformers General Archives:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Ftfg%2F%20-%20Transformers%20General/>New thread on page 9 or 10 or at image limit
Just got the AotP 4pack Horribull, he's honestly pretty solid despite the back of his legs being hollow (and the nub marks, eh).I have the Cancer figure and he's neat, but a bit loose, which I'd assumed was due to the mold's age. Horribull's just fine though, love this guy. Now to just wait for Fangry next year.Man this's put me in the mood for more Titans Return figures. Any you guys recommend? I already own Chromedome, Brainstorm, and Hardhead.It's funny, I didn't really ever have THAT big of an attachment to any of the Headmaster characters besides those three and the HMjr's, but they are just remarkably fun toys. Can't wait for Armada Sideways, wonder if his heads are gonna be compatible (or his body be TitanMaster compatible, I say it was a roundish port but still).
*saw, not say.
>>11647784>Any you guys recommend? I already own Chromedome, Brainstorm, and Hardhead.TriggerHappy and the jump starters
>>11647784Hum, this actually made me check and turns out Titan Masters can plug into a 5mm port. I had no idea. Was this intentional, or some unintended thing that may or may not stress the plastic? Doesnt seem bad to me, at least.
>>11647797I assume it’s unintentional and just happened because 5mm ports are the standard port size for most action figures today. I wouldn’t do it too often though, I feel like it might mess with the head of the Headmaster
>>11647784Sixshot, Black Shadow, and I like Weirdwolf.
>>11647699The new seeker mold looks like nothing about the front of the torso is super integral to the vehicle mode, that could possibly be swapped out for Slipstream.
>>11647611God I hope to hell this actually sticks long term.
TF Wild King have an interesting play pattern but those figures lacks articulation when combined. You can get the Shinkalion CW that is much more better.
>>11647396It's not. That Megatron should've been bigger and Quickstrike should be smaller.
>>11647810It's fine, Beast Wars was a poorly animated show that didn't care about scale anyway.
>>11647811the animation and scale are basically the only good things you can say about the graphics, dummy
>>11647800Testing it a bit more, I believe that was because it was a hexagonal port. The headmaster fits into those just fine, but any circular ports (I've just tried hands) it doesn't even wanna go in - I won't force it. Interesting!
>>11647813hexagonal ports are a pain, I keep wanting to give Tigatron cool forearm weapons, but he's like 'no' and how can you not listen to Blu Mankuma?
Oh, hey, they're finally shipping my Missing Link Arcees. Took 'em long enough.
>>11647748Show us your green cards!
>>11647811There's not a single piece of TF media that has cared as much about scale as the people in these threads.
>>11647459Thanks, that's one of my favorite moments from Chopperface's last stand, so I couldn't pass up a chance to recreate it in toy form. >>11647665This is so good, if only the Maximals had thought to channel his murderous impulses into grilling.>>11647810I'm the anon who's been Quickstrikeposting and I can confirm that this is true for both figures. Quickstrike is definitely larger than he should be and not feeling big enough is one of the reasons I've never been crazy about this version of TM2. Quickstrike feels so good in hand though that I really don't mind him being beefier than he should be.
>>11647880Beefier you say? How big is this fella?
>>11647883After having a closer look at the character model from that scene in Code of Hero, I'd say he's both slightly taller and slightly wider than he should be for purposes of screen accuracy. I'll post some more pics when I get home, I kinda wanna display him duking it out with Silverbolt.
>>11647880>This is so good, if only the Maximals had thought to channel his murderous impulses into grilling.It should have been obvious - the dude's got a Texan drawl. Give him a grill, a lawn to mow, a six-pack of cheap beer, and three other guys to stand in an alley with all day and he'd have been as docile as a kitten.
>>11647893Darn heckin tootin sun of a gun
>>11647087>His nature as a living being is also super interesting, is he the bike? Is he Rook and Crosswise? Is he Mirror? Is he Unicron himself? Is he posessed by Unicron? If the bike is alive, but not Sideways, are the heads controlling the bike?tl;dr, the toy was designed with a really specific character concept (he's the bike, hence the extra head, but the extra minicon heads brainwash him into the factions) which the anime staff weren't interested in pursuing.
>>11646851Ditto with BTAS, Adam West as Grey Ghost who inspired the Batman persona.
bundle of figs off of eBay for >£40 with p&p, best deal I've had for a long time. Pointblank feels alot nicer than I anticipated, wasn't going to pick him up out of principle after seeing the design sketches, but hey like I said, pretty good deal.
>>11647920Quite a hefty deal if you ask me
>>11647920 (me)Also saw this at B&M the other night, good to see this old ass mold still going strong in the K.O. world. lmao>>11647921Yeah, seemed to good to be true. Looks like it's typical of the seller though, judging by his feedback.
So it seems a local store has the new leader bog convoy for purchase in store.Thing is I have the encore already, is there anything that makes the jump to the newer one worth while or stick to encore?
>>11647680>>11647684the current design team had been made aware that people would've just accepted Slipstream as a simple retool of the regular seeker design and now with this little cameo here, they've basically been given a canonical greenlit to do one out of the new SS86 seeker mold, they could do it for the SS Comic Edition line in the near future.
>>11647953From Starscream to Dragqueen
>>11647958>DragqueenNo?
>>11647953>they've basically been given a canonical greenlit to do one out of the new SS86 seeker moldThe "canonical greenlight" was there from the character's inception way back in Animated. She was always just another seeker repaint, possibly with slightly more delicate features at the most. The Windblade repaint cope didn't start until later.
Why is Thew a drag queen and wears make up in his reviews?
Don't feed the faggot shitposter anons
>>11647986he's just playing the alt-wholesome thing because too many troons invaded the space and will cancel anyone who isn't real chungus wholesome.I still remember when he'd call things autistic and retarded and he still felt more genuinely positive than he does now with his 5 minute long monologues at the end of every video
>>11647990A very wholesome meme
>>11647990STARSCREAM, WE GOT STARSCREAM HERE
>>11647986going the f1nn5ter route
>>11647611My boy looks damn good with Autobot badges. Thundercracker should be the Dinobot of G1 and it's time he finally got his due. Also love that Bulkhead is written like the TFA version, which is still the best iteration of the character.
2027 is where the chances of a new set of Generations toys begin anew, if Hasbro survives to Fall of 2026, because we all lost confidence in the charlatans that took over the toy giant five years ago. What are your major wants now? I still stand for Jungle Planet Scourge (a full-scale remold of Onyx Prime) and hopefully the perfect Prime Airachnid, complete with a detachable helicopter blade that can become a sword.
>>11648023I want them to stop doing the same character 15 times
>>11647990I wanna hear Nedrys lines but with that lije G1 robot filter on them
>>11647986Its simple hes a faggot
woah.
>>11646445The strangest part for me that it's Armada of all things that keeps getting these near misses. Armada designs are VERY simple at their core and they keep trying to do something different with every single one. At least Prime is excellent
>>11648053I think the problem is Armada is very gimmick oriented. All the features the toys had and the minicons. That's why many of them were bricks.Hasbro, being the penny pinchers they are, try to match they gimmick heavy figures with the articulation people expect now and all kinds of bad compromises are made
>>11648053I’d argue that Starscream, Megatron, and Red Alert are pretty good as well. Wheeljack is nice too, but I won’t count him since he’s just a retool. Honestly, the worst thing about them is the lack of Mini-Cons since that is such a big part of Armada's identity
we are sideways and we cost $43 USD plus tax.
. . . Nickelbros!
>>11648113Oh ha, blockees tarn is coming with Nickel too
>>11648113Cute
>>11648113>>11648117who the heck is Nickel...>>11648105who the heck is Sideways and why people talking about himit's a literal random 00s slop-former
>>11648132Well, You're no one, so, you care?
>>11648113>>11648117If I had a nickel for every upcoming figure of Nickel...
Why is Elita, portrayed so poorly in toy form? Not 1 good version over the years.
>>11648138I cannot wait until we make being a freak illegal.
>>11648105Nobody cares about armada, don't worry it'll go on a deep sale so you can afford it.
>>11648138Everything can be offensive to them. They're bullies that just want things to bend to their will. If you want to be accepted learn to accept other opinions and too, forcing a change of views will only end up with more resistance.
>>11648105Kek, perfect drawing anon. And there's still people who think the new toy looks close enough to the show design.Then again they're the same morons that had doubts about the minicons turning into heads just because that didn't appear in the promo shots. WHEN THE MINICONS HAVE OBVIOUS EYES SCULPTED AND PAINTED ON THEIR CHESTS.Some people really lack a brain.
>>11648131>Who is NickelA fan-favorite character from from IDW's MTMTE comic.>Who is SidewaysAn iconic Armada character who is responsible for the show's entire third act.
>>11648113>>11648117We'll literally never get good figures of the only semi likeable IDW charactersTarn and the random Rung in Siege was a one off
>>11646716The TFWiki gets a good amount of things wrong with "dude trust me" tier information. The most Damning is the claim that Transformers Universe toy line was created due to how well Armada sales were. Armada came out only five months before Universe and both were announced at the 2002 Botcon. The success was from RiD which is where they got the idea for Universe because year two of RiD was just redecos of old toys and they still sold stupid well. But for some weird ass reason the Wiki demands you give credit to the toy line of Armada that came less than a year before it launched. You don't even need to understand how manufacturing works to know that's total bullshit. >>11648080That is the heart of the issue is the OG figures were very complicated in terms of getting the gimmick to work right. To get it to function correctly here and be in budget Sideway's head would have to be stationary here and it might have even cost him the torso joints too, but I wager people would take that price over this awful design.
>>11648176Considering most OC's from the comics don't sell well it's understandable they are cagey about making them. Rung ended up at deep discounts stores along with Legacy Jhiaxus, all the Windblades, etc. Basically if it wasn't a G1 toy originally the market just doesn't bite.
>>11648184>The TFWiki gets a good amount of things wrong with "dude trust me" tier information.They also take the Micron Legends fansub as God's word when making the comparisons between Japanese and English. There's times they claim the characters are saying something different between dubs when they're actually saying the same and the fansubbers just fucked up. I watched the sub last year and I know enough Japanese to spot several of those.
>>11648173>>Who is Nickel>A fan-favorite character from from IDW's MTMTE comic.She completely ruined the DJD and was the first sign of IDW going to shit
>>11648173>A fan-favorite characternever heard of itlooks stupid>>11648173>An iconic Armada characternever watched it00s transformers is meh
Only took 2 years or so since he released and we're on the porch of getting new Seekers but hey got a Ramjet at Ross for like $14Got a Devcon for sub $9 too. Feels great
>>11648191I do wish TFWiki had more input from the Japanese community in some way, especially since a lot of their original series tend to have pretty bare pages since most of the editors are focusing on the newest episodes of the current series
>>11648138Isn't that thing a troon?
>>11648212I wish TFWiki had more input from a 12-guage shotgun into their brain pans.
>>11648184>The TFWiki gets a good amount of things wrong with "dude trust me" tier information. The most Damning is the claim that Transformers Universe toy line was created due to how well Armada sales were. Armada came out only five months before Universe and both were announced at the 2002 Botcon.It's how Aaron Archer said it happened, but he's fumbled dates before. He had a video that talked about Armada being strong enough they needed a quick product to turnaround. What I think it the more accurate view is that Armada had strong enough initial orders coming out of RiD's success. Since orders would be a few months in advance for a new line it could line up to a longer cycle between Armada hitting shelves and Universe. https://youtu.be/nE-MKJDLkNc?si=q4aVOOXpx7OdBqLk>and both were announced at the 2002 Botcon. I don't remember this, are you sure you're not thinking of Expanded Universe? That was Botcon's name for their 2002 exclusives that was planned to be a regular thing but never really picked up.
ORDER UP! ONE LETHAL DOSE OF CYBER-VENOM, HOLD THE ANTIDOTE!
>>11647880if only Blackarachnia had already defected, she'd be like "don't go with the Preds, they'll only use you. Megatron's only interested in brainwashed fools, and he's NEVER yeehaw.
>>11647986makeup is only for men. women look gross in it.
>>11648242That’s a lot of fans for a single character given how many characters there are in this franchise
>>11648139hey freaks are good, these people are the opposite. they don't wanna be weird, they DEMAND people accept them as 100% normal and no other norms are allowed.Freaks are like haha yeah i look fuckin weird, this is odd, right? I've got like, one arm all fucked up or I got a weird piercing or i'm like 4 feet tall or I'm dressed in spikes or in a suit that's way too small. You can totally stare, I know it's weird.
>>11648239imagine your knees being level with the bottom of your pelvic bone. The original toy's crotch stops MIDWAY down his thigh. Yeahhh I might skip this one.
>>11648254Technically his actual knee is lower than that, the sculpt/colouring makes it look higher than it actually is.
>>11648256not by much though, and not nearly like the original toyI see what happened, when you google quickstrike, this is the first resulta pose where he's in a pretty deep knee-bend, so both thighs are perspective'd shorter.
>>11648257when viewed normally, the crotch to thigh ratio is a lot closer to the toy. And this is also how the 3P version did it.
>>11648257It must be hard to jerk off when one of your hands is a bunch of scorpion legs and the other is a cobra.
>watch an official Transformers CYBERWORLD episode>instantly want Chop Shop figurei-is that how cartoons worked back in G1 days when kids instantly wanted a toy of a character they liked?https://youtu.be/vrSkDG5T1y4>chop shop is just 11 eur on amazonFucking ordered!!!
>>11648261and when you dont have a dick, that's probably the big onebut yeahh i imagine you could kinda fold one scorpion leg down into a kinda mitt, and that's the best you'd have.>>11648264he is among the best of that line for sure.
>>11648264>those videogame moments/sectionsH-HOOOOLY SHIT WAIT A MINUTEis Tf-Cyberworld literally REBOOT but for current age kids???it looks like itthey having normal episode and then "GAME" arrives and they entering a "cyberworld" and going through a video-game using vidya-logic and shitHoly fuck i want to watch it then
>>11648138>post one weird message in 2018>still make people rage 7 years laterHow do they do it?
>>11648269PS:Holy shit Megatron has such a sexy voice... it's literally the sexiest voices of Megatrons tf-cartoon ever had and im not even gay!
>>11648277while listening to this podcast analyzing the works of G.K. Chesterton, I find myself raging at things people said like 130 years ago. If something is fucking blasphemous enough against reality, it should bother any sane person to hear it asserted unironically.that's why comedy is so dead. in the 90s-2000s we were like fuckit laugh, any weirdass thing, put it in a show or a stand-up routine, we know none of that is real.. the realer it gets, the harder it is to brush it off.
>>11648280I like his Lobo moustache.Maybe in 15 years we'll see reimagined, fully-articulated, larger-sized versions of these guys
>>11647127Nowadays its retconned the autobots know doubledealer is fucking up both sides but they need him because he is 100% willing to do the most dirty shit the autobots cant
>>11648269Good catch, while the show is nothing special it certainly seems to lift from Reboot's formula >>11648277I think it's more the well has run dry. Transformers sales are going down, and most IPs and merc related to it are waning. It's comparable to 1988, the brand isn't dead but it's on it's way out. So if you want to try and rage bait anything, you have to go back a good ways to find anything that people use to care about.
>>11648290>Transformers sales are going down, and most IPs and merc related to it are waning.I dunno about you but skybound is selling a lot even for a comicbook, its less about the IP waning and more about hasbros utter retardation in handling the IP
>>11648289that fits decently well but it ruins the whole fooled-ya angle.I could see that working better in Beast Wars.
>>11648290all sales are going down, all IPs are dying
>>11648299>that fits decently well but it ruins the whole fooled-ya angle.Well they have counterpunch
>>11648316You mean Chinese people aren't publicly decrying their country? I'm shocked! Surely that's means there's no problems there.
>all those polfags whining and shitpostingOh boy i can't wait when they see _that_ new video and start posting it here and crying about it.damn boi will go prepare some popcorn
>>11648316>doing welluhhhhhh
>>11648320When the cat gives his owner a heart attack, he eats well... for a while.
>>11648332QRD?
>>11648347you will know when you will see it you little polfag
>>11648195TRVTH NVKEI'd still fuck her though.
>>11647922Man, some people have all the luck finding cool-looking KOs! I know the FoC Combaticons are awful toys, but those colors look great on 'em!
>>11648354I'm sorry I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. I don't even use /pol/ (or any board outside of /toy/).
>>11648354What.. is going on with all the... what.. the legs.. what's happening..
>>11648299Doubledealer isn't a "fooled ya" character, he's specifically a mercenary. Even his commercial has him turn into the vulture right in front of Optimus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDsvaO8NYVM
>>11648377oh, earlier we were talking about the disguise guy and how his disguise was easily figured out, and how if it were, the plot would be over.
>>11648316China doesn’t have the problems that left wingers create due to the fact they are authoritarian
>>11648212TFWiki's problem isn't a lack of input, it's that its staff outright hates the japanese side of the franchise.
>>11648294A fair point but comic sales don't push the needle that great for their volume otherwise the UK comic and G2 in the US would have kept going as those books sold very well, just not the numbers Hasbro needed ie the toys didn't move. >about hasbros utter retardation in handling the IPI think it's just a money issue. Prime series was a high risk high reward that ended on the high risk part sadly, while other factors such as pulling the Hub stunt didn't help with cash flow the toys just didn't move. RiD in 2001 was a medicore show with a very poor time slot in the states (3:00 est time) the toys sold very well. Again a lot of movie parts but Hasbro has done worse with the brand and the toys moved well enough. >>11648301true, it's impossible to have a captive culture like before and with the smaller generations you can no longer make the number go up.
>>11648398You can add to that they kneel at whatever Hasbro wants the narrative to be. Look at how they handle the RiD material and the Prime series controversy. Seems whatever the boys that made the toys is a word of law and reality isn't important.
>>11648398Fucking """staff""", dude it's a wiki.Yeah the people that contributed to it 20 years ago hated JP Transformers, totally, but the main problem is really that nobody cared to fact-check and REVISE it until recent years.It's a communal resource, if you wanna correct something then just go make an account and do it? Dummy?
>>11648386which is?... come on anon, you're so close.>>11648398they also hate their own past selves and basically the entire fun era of the internet.>>11648401Shit, I hadn't even thought of those reasons, but you're right. we could be doing everything right and we'd still have less than before.
>>11648406Anon, try it. See how far you get.
>>11648406many of us have tried and at best we just watch what we edited get removed and our sources deleted to at worse banned.
>>11648406>It's a communal resourceNothing like that exists online. Tfwiki, like most such communities, exists so a clique of tards can circlejerk themselves as authorities over their autistic focus.
>>11648421not true only inasmuch as it suggests this was always the case from the startthe internet used to be communal. It isn't anymore.
>>11648398I think the Japanese side is absolutely worth hating>>11648408Which is what anon?They’re a fascist stateI like China, I just don’t like how antagonistic they are
>>11647990That's the robo-Wayne Knight that comes with the yandere dilophosaurus chick, right?
>>11648437authoritarian.. fascist.. one of the other words you listed is RIGHT THERE in with that, but you seem to think one actually excludes you from the other
>>11648440Stop being a retard please, say what you want to sayLike I said I like ChinaI buy 3rd party TF exclusively because they are just better
>>11648401>I think it's just a money issueDidnt hasbro wasted 200 to 300 million dollars for fucking reactivate? it was never a money issue as they failed to expand the IP beyond TV shows and comics, they are definitively utterly retarded on the handling of the IP
>>11648406isn't it privately owned by Willis and few others? It's not like to other free wiki sites. I think they set up their own and pay to keep it hosted online
>>11648341what?
>>11648452that is part of the money issue. the guy with the purse is a crackhead and everyone's too scared or stupid to do anything about it.same in every company.
>>11648406He thinks he can just add stuff on Willis' wiki
>>11648456Think about it.
>>11648461I need to get the fuck out of my neighborhood, the block club email has just turned into this shit.It is funny though seeing them consistently prove my point by being total assholes.
>>11648462oh, you're a shithead, got it.
>>11648461MSipher
>>11648461>2015
>>11648465good people do not take or keep screencaps of bad people
>>11648469and? You think they got better?
>>11648471
>>11648473i see you have chosen evil
>>11648469Normally I agree with this point however the topic is the issues with a community where all of those involved are both still there and have never changed their views on this thing. I'd be on your side if this was just anons infighting for no reason. That all being said: It's a dead board talking about a near dead community so I can see the point in not giving a damn what a bunch of circle jerkers do in an age where younger people would sooner trust their discords than a wiki of any kind.
>>11648474>>11648471>woah, don't warn others about bad people, they'll just stop their shit on their own.
>>11648469Hey, if Transformers fans are known for anything it’s not being able to let go of the past
>>11648475I don't get the point. People have pointed out in the thread how these guys have fucked up all kinds of shit and for some reason Hasbro still uses them as a resource and continues to fuck up toys and fiction as a result.and part of the reason is they have a long history of worrying about stupid shit like >>11648461 instead of simply getting information correct. every new article comes with someone asking what gender the thing is because Hasbro didn't inclad the fucker
>>11648479
>>11648476right, you're so obviously giving WARNINGS. this is in no way idle gossip.
>>11648488They’re not bootlegs because they are unique mouldsThough I’ve just bought my first MP figure with Nucleon Quest Ginrai
>>11648461As much as I hate these people, in this case they're right and you're only proving them right. Moreso today than ever, when you get anons seething over trans or nonbinary characters completely unprompted in the transforming robot toy threads.
>I am in no way just replying to my own posts because I think roleplaying endless arguments is fun!
>>11648498False equivalence. Just because some controversial things are always worth discussing, and not inherently inflammatory on their own, doesn't mean all are.A firm stand must be taken, and if you don't see that yet, you will (but what's taking you so long?).The irony is these are the kinds of people who were trying to present certain words as basically infohazards, and they managed to create insidious concepts that genuinely are.
>>11648499I miss when 4chan used to tell you how many people have actually posted in the thread so you could tell who was just spamming
>>11648502it wasn't foolproof, mind you. It only told you for sure whether the replier was posting for the first time in a thread, but.. yes, it is very missed.
>>11648475But there has been change because people called them out on it. "The wiki hates Japanese stuff" is literally twenty years old at this point and there's been an effort to fix that.
>>11648500If I had a dollar for every 4chan thread I’ve been in where the topic gets horribly derailed and an anon uses the phrase “false equivalence”, I’d have 2 dollars and you know the rest
>>11648316>Literal drywall Mass business Skyscrapers and Bridges that collapse within a week-1st monthLolLmao even
>>11648500A firm stand against literally what? What are you even arguing against here
>>11648498>As much as I hate these people,nice try. You're the same kind of faggot that would back them up.re-read the issue, the whole thing was because the wiki geeks were the ones that wanted to seethe over people and then got all butthurt when someone maybe they should keep politics out of a tfwiki
>>11648494and you're problem is what?>NO! Don't tell anyone about the sleazy shit these people did, especially that it relates to what other people were complaining about (problems with the people who run the wiki) That's just GOSSIP.nevermind the the homos on the wiki itself do the same thing with people they don't like on their pages.
>>11648510I feel like I'm siding with this guy here, depending on what kind of education he's besmirching. The regular type? because yeah art is more important than that.>>11648516you know exactly what I mean, you're trying to goad. Cut it out. Go talk to your dad.
>>11648518Keeping a bunch of screencaps you pull out to show people is not a thing good people do, son.If you genuinely thought any of us were in danger of... having our wiki pages edited badly by this guy? You should just tell us verbally and succinctly.Er, textually. I'm.. I'm not expecting you to hop on vocaroo and I wouldn't listen if you did.>"Man that MSipher guy posts all KINDS of dumb stuff, I've seen it myself. Stay away from him for sure"is more than enough. It's an accusation for sure, but accusing is only wrong when guilt is unproven. You HAVE the evidence, that's good enough. Wheeling it out for everyone to look at is like showing off your gruesome scars or colostomy. We believe you. Only dishonest people have evidence prepared for their claims.
>>11648523>You HAVE the evidence but don't actually show it to anyone. let everything just be baseless accusations.just stop. I mean I am just goofing around with this shit, but the "stand" you're taking IS actually retarded. These people are scumbags and it's it not a bad thing letting other people know that
>>11648264Nature is healing
>>11648523>>11648494>>11648474>>11648471Hey MSipher, you're a FAGGOT
>>11648521I really don't. Goad what? You can't just speak in vague nonspecifics and expect everyone to understand you. Fuck, if it's that you're trying to imply you're bigot or something, I'd have more respect if you'd actually say it instead of beating around the bush. And if you're not, then you're not, so what's the point??>Noo i cant be outed for being an asshole on the anonymous imageboard infamous for its assholes, my reputation will be RUINED
>>11648525>>11648535you need to leave
There are rumors saying Hasbro is importing Wild King for the non-Japanese market. Any credible sources for this, or is Chris JaAm another of those false source clout chasers?
>>11648052This is so cool
>>11648554definitely one of the best uses I've seen of flame effects.
>>11648549>is Chris JaAm another of those false source clout chasers?Yes. Ignore.
Transformers?
>>11648539sorry Sipher. you're a pervert
There's nothing helpful or informative about 'lolcow' culture. You're not clever, you're not special, you're just less interesting than the shitty person you're obsessing over.>>11648598damn right, transformers.
>>11648615sorry Sipher. you're still a pervert
>>11648261Two words: Snek job.
Finished stickering my Micronus last night>>11648618I know we're just having fun, but are you *committed* to seeing enemies everywhere
>>11648621
>>11648623whoa, those are some bitchin stickers.
>>11648623
>>11646487hey someone reposted my old fire bros pic, neato
>>11648598They are more.
>>11648623What sticker set did you get?
>>11648598What the FUCK is a transformer?
>>11648625>>11648629It's the Toyhax setI've got most of the set for the 13 so far, skipped Megatronus and Prima since I didn't think they added that muchStill have Onyx Prime to do
>>11648558That fucking schizo, always thinking of never evers...Okay! How are the new Age of the Primes stuff we're supposed to get next month, but came in early for thanksgiving?
>>11648633Nice
Has anyone got a pic of zeta toys grand maximus next to MPG Ginrai? I'm curious if these 2 match up height wise because in the show Grand maximus is supposed to be the same size as Ginrai
>>11648698did they seriously put a blast effect on a handle in his hand... that's so gay.
>>11648698This just looks so trash. He looks like hes wearing a giant pair of pants
>>11648191Nah they're right on that part, Armada is a shit ass dub that was rushed to come months earlier than it has to, MD is the true embodiment of what the writers (japanese ppl) wanted to tell (tho it was not w/o it's problems), proven by their Jap/Eng section on each episode & the LOTM 2003 year book>>11648195Nahhh, she was a cute addition to the group & Hayato Sakamoto was responsible for her design>>11648398Nah it's defo a lack of input, though I'll develop it in my next paragraph>>11648406All of this, no one seems to care at all until suddenly it's too late, a mishap was acknowledged by Hasbro and suddenly you hear that they were aware of the prblm in question (somehow), I had to correct multiple toy pictures because they were for many years in shit quality, flipped (as was Doubledealer) or had some problem since some were untouched as they were imported in 2009, I had to rework months ago the Dark Nova/Star Giant article because multiple of his forms were messed up & wrongly attributed& even then it's never enough because there's like 5 ppl in this community (not the wiki, the whole western TF community) to understand japanese (while it represents half of the franchise mind you, if not more than that decades ago) & can help on that matter.
>>11648377>Even his commercial has him turn into the vulture right in front of Optimus.In fairness...no, there's a scene switch there you missed. He turns into the vulture in front of Piranacon.
>>11648761>Nah they're right on that part, Armada is a shit ass dubI'm not denying that, but there's still instances were the subs are wrong, the characters say the same as the English dub and the wiki takes that as a change between versions. So no, they're not right in that regard.
>>11648722Better than turning into pants
>>11648775Any of the old anime stuff being dubbed is bound to be crap. 50/50 on Cybertron because it did some stuff better than the Japanese version, surprisingly. If it's the other way around, it becomes crude humor that shouldn't exist.On a different note, I had another stupid idea I'm sure kids who own more expensive releases tried: Has anyone tried fitting a Human Alliance figure in the chest of any Revenge of the Prime Leader Optimus mold? It was reminiscent of the one scene from the first movie where Optimus, Sam and Mikaela were escaping from Megatron.
I don't think anyone really cares about Armada outside of the TFWiki guys.
>>11648780How long before we see how they fucked this up
>>11648803One thing they should have also done is release Overload that not only combines with Armada Prime into Optimus Megaweapon, but also become an oversized Weaponizer ANYONE should equip.
>>11648791Armada had really good sales and probably did better in sales than BW.
>>11648722it's a japanese aesthetics thingl
>>11648803Probably around NY Toy Fair, right? My money is on terrible parts-forming instead of actually transforming, but still somehow looking less proportional in all modes compared to the original.
Could someone show off their Tarn next to animated Optimus? Id like to see how they compare to each other
>>11648699Addendum those pieces aren't diecast, they're electroplated chrome
>>11648810ok and that was almost 25 years ago and I don't think anyone really cares about Armada outside of the TFWiki guys
>>11648791Armada is my favorite TF show and UT is my favorite toyline so there are at least two of us
I'd like a remake of Micron Legend Bumble and Superlink Cliffjumper. I don't have high expectations for Hasbro and Takara after seeing their new Doubleface. I am hoping for 3rd party to make it.
>>11648791I like the characters that have combining element in it such as Convoy, Jetfire, Ultra Magnus, Doubleface, Bumble, Star Saber and Cosmotector.
Ya know, this color scheme is less "Galvatron," and more "Deep Desert Megatron."
>>11648722now that you mention it...>>11648791The only Armada I care about is Ron Torfulson's Armada (featuring Herman Menderchuk)
>>11649000God I need to get on blast effects, they're so sick
>>11649014They're great
>>11649014>>11649021It sucks that they mess with the plastic of the toys though
>>11649026there's gotta be a fix for that, both for them and for us
>>11649026Do they actually or is this just pseudoscience for trad /toy/ posters
>>11649030I can tell you from experience that a lot of rubberizers are also plastic-melters. As I found out when I tried to restore hardened rubber parts by soaking them in alcohol and wintergreen oilworked a treat but i didn't think to rinse them or even let them dry, and later they had completely melted the plastic they were put on.now that's a zoid we're talking about, and model kit plastic is a lot softer and easier to melt, but still. nobody is safe.
>>11649033Time for me to never get blast effects
>>11649035to temper that statement however: I have not seen any evidence of this from blast effects myself, and nobody who reported it showed any pictures.
>>11649039I haven't seen any full on melting myself, but I have noticed with some of them if I leave them attached for a length of time they become difficult to remove and some of them have some paint transfer on them
>>11648699>hands the wrong colour and fingers all the same length>oversized and arbitrarily redesigned shoulder cannons>LED eyes that look dead when not on>stolen Hot Rod fillersThe sword is cool but everything else has been done already and, with possible exception of the chrome parts, done better.
>>11649039>>11649041All I can say is it's never happened to me. My For example, my AOTP Megatronus has had his flame effects attached all year without issue.
>>11649028The trick is don't leave them in all the time
>>11649052Nothing can fix the tiny body on the huge pants whilst having a small head and skinny arms look
>third party white starscream is called White Noisemy sides. i love the names they come up with.>>11649059let me check my Antagony...... yeah she's fine. the blast effects came out just fine.>>11649060there's a logic to that, but it is not a fun... meta play pattern, as it were. I hate having to remove batteries from things, especially with modern 'safe' screw-in battery covers.
>>11649061>the super robot has super robot proportions
My local shop (in the USA) just got an early shipment of the whole next wave of AotP, all size classes, but I dont have enough good boy points for anything.
>>11649076having your pelvic piece stick way out is not common at all for those typesin fact a lot of them cheat it. there isn't really thigh joint clearance, but they want to keep that part sleek and trim because men have a small pelvis. on account of we only have to store dookies in there, not babies.
>>11649084To each their own. It's just not something that bothers me.
>>11649030They mess with paint, not plastic. Just don't put them on painted guns.
>>11649098yeah it only looks bad once it's pointed out, to me.
>>11649098That gives off a King J-Der vibe.
>>11649116This could be retarded but now do I know if something is painted or molded?
>>11649336One easy way is if the handle is a different color, it’s painted. Otherwise I’d just check the wiki before you put blast effects on a weapon
>>11648882Sorry to double post, but I forgot to respond to this in my last post
>>11648780Doesn't Jetfire's torso just hang upside down behind him?
>>11649361Not really, just one panel. The whole torso is more of an Energon trickArmada Jetfire is so dedicated to being pants that he hollows himself out to be more convincing
>>11649098Faggots defending this of all things.Tiny head.Small chest.Huge waist.Thunder thighs.Shins bigger than whole arms together.Miniature shoulder guns.Lego hands.Hollowed out bits.The price.The TF community is a joke sometimes
When will they bring back the 5cm/2" size-class?
>>11649403>Lego hands.He doesn't use that C-clip shitty gimmick this general is in love with though
>>11649000well the idea behind the deco was basing it off of BWII Galvatron, Aaron Archer thought the purple/pink/lavender look was interesting and wanted to homage it, i think he also amalgamated what they had just done with Galvatron in RID (or Devil Gigatron in Car Robots). funnily enough in Japan, this actually is just a Megatron and not a Galvatron.
>>11649403I guarentee, you will have buyer's regret IF you don't already own this figure.
WowIt looks almost like the real thing but just smaller
In case people winder how big they are
>>11649403>Tiny head.>Small chest.>Huge waist.>Thunder thighs.>Shins bigger than whole arms together.I love super robots so I have no issue with those proportions. I bought it BECAUSE of those, really.The real problems of the toy are not looks, bit gimped playability due to stupid design choices.
>>11649433>>11649434What are these?
>>11649448Gacha prizes.
>>11649451Damn, that sucks
>>11648791Ppl do>>11649000Yeah that was the goal, to not resemble G1 Galvatron in the slightest https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/1936233740331794573Also in japan he's still Megatron in those colors, none of that "i got new colors for the remaining 1/4th of the anime so i'm call myself galvatron" nonsense
>>11649434>>11649451Somebody has the chance to do something really funny if they get their hands on the Bumblebee
>>11648867I can see it being a horrible pelvis chunk like devastator got and jetfire just splits down the middle to form the knees and below
Does anyone else have Quintus Prime? Was wondering if his Ember Gemerald was loose in the cockpit 5mm port for anyone else or if it's just my figure. It's kind of annoying the way it wants to rattle.
guess which one of these is the voyager and which one is the deluxe
>>11648698>>11648699>>11649098Man makes me want him more honestly
>>11649491It fits in snug for me.
Chances of Big Convoy hitting Ross next summer?
Yeesh
>>11649507>43 bucks for this
>>11649549No clue, but being a beast former means he could shelfwarm. I'm not super happy with how it turned out, so I'm waiting.
>>11649549Beast wars stuff shelf warms, not sure if the 90’s kids ditched it for MP and 3rd party but the only kids that actually show up is the armada ones.
>>11649654Not all of it, people was buying most of the predacons
>>11649556gross
>>11647784Triggerhappy. Great looking bot mode, great schmup-looking alt mode. It was the toy that got me back into Transformers after 30 years away.
anyone holding out on mercari because of their idiotic fees, there's a 20 dollars off shipping coupon right now. not sure if that stacks with other discounts or if there even are others at the moment
Is anyone able to help ID this guy? My bro gave him to me from a random lot he got, and for the life of me I can't find who he is. He's got a Minicon port that flips up, and I'm pretty sure he goes to some kind of Combiner since the only thing he turns into is a claw thing. I'm stumped.
>>11649702Part of the Power Core Combiners set that came with Mudslinger. He's just a little drone dude who turns into an arm, so I don't think he has a proper name.
>>11649702Looks like he's the right arm Destructicon drone that goes with Power Core Combiners Mudslinger. There's four other bots that came with him, including Mudslinger himself.>>11649707Beat me to it.
>>11649707God DAMN these things were ugly. I really like Heavytread and his little dude that turns into a big power claw (the clear plastic really adds to that look to me) but all of the fully combined modes with four limbs look so weird and spindly to me.
>>11649707>>11649708Thanks a bunch, no wonder I couldn't find this little guy. I never bought into those Combiners back in the day.
>>11649709Combined modes were hot garbage but as fun little Scout class dudes they're kinda neat. Wish both my Sledges hadn't broken at the exact same point though.
>>11649724Just feels silly to hunt down just a single guy, especially when they're as pricy as they are complete. Sucks too because Heavytread's "chest" configuration is really cool. There is a 3P kit that works as limbs for him with fitting colors, but it's impossible to find or super expensive and you lose out on the claw mode which is my favorite part of the original.
>>11647986That black nail paint looks so rank on his mitts.
>>11647993literally just this. His audience is autistic men in their 20s who trooned out and will chimp out. Except thew is very much one of them.
>>11647993it is funny, I immersed myself in past media to escape the present, what I found was that I'm standing on the shoulders of scads of people who all thought and acted the way I think is correct, and it's both sad that so many have fallen away, and satisfying to remember yeah, it's NOT just me, as the moderns like to claim. They try to gaslight us that the standards have always been as theirs are now, which then raises the question of why their view should be a protected minority, but.. old tv shows disprove em every time... what? Transformers? Uh, i liked Beast Wars. I wish they'd been able to put Transmutate into stasis lock, poor girl. I bet the technorganic reformatting would have fixed her right up.
>>11649753>I bet the technorganic reformatting would have fixed her right up.Hell, with the number of times characters got their Sparks ripped out and transplanted into new bodies in BM, I'm fairly certain she could have been given a new, more stable body if she had made it back to Cybertron.
>>11649758>the number of times characters got their Sparks ripped out and transplanted into new bodies in BMThis is something that kinda irks me with Transformers. I'm getting into IDW recently and even with the grittier tone of that so many characters have (seemingly) meaningful deaths only to get revived later. It really cheapens it for me
>>11649767The really need to stop with that shit. Every comic kills off name characters to look like they're pulling no punches,but because they're name characters, eventually SOMEONE is gonna want them back, especially if you bring in someone's fav character in your new continuity just to bump him off. We all know it's pointless. At least during the 80's/90's "push the merchandise" heyday, the writers were forced to keep a guy around for a while before they were allowed to whack him
>>11649767I prefer when it's not something you can do willynilly. it's very difficult, like when Rhinox recovered Primal's spark.There are probably also body incompatibilities. but it does explain why they would keep blank protoforms on board, too.>>11649769it's at least meaningful if his toy- uh I mean character model changes. To me, anyway. like yeah i'll never be that guy again, now i'm in this body.
>>11649769It just ends up feeling silly, like the character death was just used to set up a new storyline because of grief/distrust/whatever. There's one character whose arc and death in IDW is really cool and made me like him more than I have ever before, but then he gets resurrected (as a double whammy, even) a couple of volumes later and now I can't even look back on the original moment untainted.But I get it. Children's toy franchise. Still, I wish that the more adult-leaning media (like IDW) would shy away from it a bit more.
>>11649774yeahhhh i hear you..you have to at least WAIT a while. hold your goddamn horses, i know you're pissing yourself with excitement but be a big boy and hold your bladder. THEN you can have the triumphant return actually maintain the weight of the sacrifice.Liiike show that he missed out on something important in the life of someone else he cares about, while he was busy being dead, or...
>>11649775Yeah, that's a compromise I could buy. With the IDW examples I'm thinking of I believe it took a good while in terms of real time between releases, but when you're reading it back without having to wait for new issues it feels like they were barely gone.
Where are the repaints? Give me Shattered Glass, Nemesis, Ultra Magnus, whatever.
What characters wouldn't you mind being repaints just so you can complete a lineup?
>>11649829
>>11649830I'm the wrongest dude to ask since I'm only into beast guys, and everyone either is a repaint already, or deeefinitely isn't.I mean I guess Prime Predaking as the TF2 megatron mold, but.. I don't exactly love that toy.
>>11649830Sunstorm, Slipstream
>>11649840They did Slipstream
>>11649830Paint this in blue and give it an orange face and you're 95% of the way to having Glyph
>>11649830I know we already got them, but I really like the Rainmakers. They're obvious recolors even in design, but there's something very charming to me about a brightly colored obvious C-team.
>>11649830Cryotek.
>>11649526That's a snake, perhaps mine is defective? It wobbles a bit inside the 5mm chest port, some angles it stays in but otherwise there's little to no resistance. Guess I'll have to swap it with another figure.Little QC anomalies like these are so damn tiring, I wish I could force myself not to care. Could you do me a favor abd see if another 5mm peg weapon etc fits snug in the chest port for you?
>>11649849What about Slipstorm and Sunstream
>>11649874YOU MADMAN!
>>11649858what's interesting to me is their color separation, or largely lack thereof
>>11649867It's so weird how Hasbro will assrape one mold (that Seige Megatron) and not repaint another at all even with obvious repaint potential
>>11649877
>>11649882huh, so that's actually not even show accurate. They should have wing stripes, but not belt or titty color detail.
>>11649885Well, in fairness, those are the Siege ones, not SS86. They have tetrajet alt modes, so the bot modes are also a little different.
>>11649887oh right, it's their previous formswhich is always fun. i like those. I haven't loved the con exclusive ones done for beast guys, but I appreciate that they tried.
>>11649829I want toy deco Prime.
>>11649858>>11649882>>11649877I felt like their bright colors are good enough to make them special while still giving them some color separate, also getting rid of the shitty battle damage helps alot.
>>11649903>getting rid of the shitty battle damage helps alot.That shit is still baffling to me. It didn't look good on any figure
>>11649903totally>>11649904executives are retarded and need to justify their giant salaries, because everyone's starting to go 'wait, do we need that guy? most of our revenue goes to him'their first mistake was treating shit like turnkey instead of making it something you have passion for.
>>11649895You already have one, dumbass. It's toy sculpt too. You'd have to be a retard to want a toy deco on a cartoon aesthetic mold.
>>11649908Those retards actually exist since they made MP-44S.
>>11649908eh, I want things like that sometimesi loved the toy-deco beast wars guys and I kinda wish they went further with that.i think RotB tanking really killed off a lot of plans.
>>11649904I thought Soundwave's shattered window looked cool
>>11649915I don't like how it completely blocks the view of the tape
This is gonna be a new one. I just watched the 1986 movie. I've never liked G1 itself because of the animation quality, so I never got around to this despite being into Transformers for 20 years. A friend of mine asked to watch it with me and I'm genuinely blown away by how good it looks. I guess the SS86 hype gained one more member today.
>>11649935oh yeah, they pulled out all the stopsit still has a lot of baffling errors, but none of them feel cheap. it's just incredible to look at
>>11649937>it still has a lot of baffling errorsNone that stood out to me, but maybe that is because I haven't watched G1 so I don't have a concept of the >still. Care to list any notable ones?
>>11649938Nothing I could say the wiki didn't say better.also yeah most of them are just like g1 knowledge stuff, but some of it is like, oh we made this new character for the movie and.. hey here's three of him in this shot
>>11649935The fidelity is quite good for the time, everything is really shiny and pretty, they shoved in a ton of detail whenever they possibly couldUnfortunately, I can't say the same for the animation, which is still very much g1 TV tier messy and amateur. Unicron's death is the most "fuck it, all the camera angles!" shit ever, absolutely no thoughtful direction at all.
>>11649939>look at wikiHoly shit lmfaoI suppose the notable part to me is that as a non-G1 fan it stood out to me as really impressively made. I flatout cannot get into G1 because it looks cheap to me, so I was expecting the same here. Glad to have more parts of the franchise to enjoy.
>>11649945>pic>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who still don't believe G1 Megatron is supposed to be silver, not flat grey
>>11649944>The fidelity is quite good for the time, everything is really shiny and pretty, they shoved in a ton of detail whenever they possibly couldThey really didIt was on the 30th(?) anniversary Bluray they said they cleaned it up so the details were more clear than the original theater projections
>>11649950I mean it makes sense as I've never seen a Walther that was flat gray.
>>11649950The original toy is grey with chrome partsIf you mean the toon version, he was sometimes grey and sometimes silver, so either is fine
>>11649963Cmon dude, bait used to be believable
>>11649904Flywheels and Impactor were the only two that did it well IMO. Just a thin line of damage along the bottom edge of the tank, where it actually made sense.
HOLY SHIT ANONS IT'S CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!!I found this Razorclaw for just 3 eurit's all perfectly moving and has those neat 80s ratchety-metallic crickety-crackety joints!im soo fucking happy - i always liked those bulky G1 monstersit trandforms perfectly too and lion legs make him weirdly VERY posable.i would fucking love this as a kid if i hadPS:I thought that now when i have a torso it will be easy and cheap to complete G1 predaking but...wow...even his limbs and wings are expensive..I bought him and other "broken old toys" today and im so happy.I want to go outside and return to that flea market to get more but i feel embarassed because i acted like a happy nerdy kid diggint throught that pile of vintage toys lmao (i have not seen such flea market rich with vintage toys for years)PS:They also had Voltron lions for 3eur/bucks each but i wasnt sure
>>11649988decided to return to get the voltron onesPhotos are shitty because im in a hurry. But wow...these are all chromed without any chrome-scuffs...im so happy bros..I never had Voltron and will try to complete it now
>>11649935>>11649937One of my favorite touches is during the already stylized coronation scene for Starscream, whoever's animating that scene is just having a field day adding all the extra mecha detail to Starscream.
Found a configuration that can provide Volcanicus ankle tilt and double elbow bend. Somehow this also makes the overall proportion looks better than the official configuration.
>>11650003I was wondering can I make it's elbow bend and ankle tilt without 3rd party upgrade parts, and took me some minutes to came out with this configuration. The biggest challenge is making the heels stable and both legs at equal length.
>>11650003Also able to perform scramble city combination. In this configuration, it still have elbow bend and ankle tilt.
>>11650003>>11650007>>11650026You can make Swoop as a bow weapon for Slug or a wing pack for Sludge.
>pimples on the faceHow embrassing...Why even bother to preorder online with QC like this?
>>11649998That's the Panosh Place version, it looks terrible compared to the original.
>>11650131And this is the original one.
>>11650132>>11650131>tiny hands and legsNah i think mine looks better - everything is bigger and chunky. full of shiny chrome (not scuffed which is rarity) and it has seats for other toys to ride lions.They fit core class transformers perfectly>proof: me actually owning them
>>11650003>>11650026Another combination. I like how both arms looks, the rest of the body is an afterthought.
>>11650117>Why even bother to preorder online with QC like this?Because you won't find those at the retail in most places.
>>11650146Dude, yours doesn't even have elbows and the proportions are a mess. Potato arms, giraffe neck, sagging armpits, weird thighs... If you like the toy that's fine, but saying it looks better is pure cope.
>>11650052Sludge Cannon.
>>11649830Please it's been what feels 10-12+ Years I've wanted herProbably since Animated actuallyYou have had numerous great Bee/Cliffjumper molds come and go and only ever did some repaints with the Earthrise/Netflix mold
Quick question about the replacement Fire Convoys, has anyone in the UK had theirs yet? It's been about 5 months since I contacted Hasbro's support about it and haven't heard anything about it since. Their estimate for the replacement was Fall and we're past that now.
>>11650220EU gets them in about 3 months so you will get less.
>>11649830I know that Naruto Gamakichi figure's kinda based on the Beast Wars version of Spittor and not the TM2 version, but I wouldn't mind at all if they just repainted that version to do a new version of Goosher/Slapper from Car Robots/RID 2001. I'll take anything from that series. Though I don't know the likelyhood of them reusing crossover-toy molds..
>>11650225Okay, if it's still a few months away that's not so bad. I was just worried they'd forgotten about mine.
>>11649829I really want SG and Nemesis.
>>11649945the wiki is the ideal place for lists of errors and mistakes. nowhere else is appropriate.Whatever else it can't be used for, this one it can
I need to ask, as a Soundwave fag is the new SS86 worth, bc seeing that weird ass empty corner in his alt mode is kinda turning me off from it, the 86 line has been pretty good imo but they could've found a way to not have that fuck ass corner.
>>11649968yeah that's not battle damage, that's weathering. that adds realism so the altmode looks less like a toy.>>11649988aw mazel tov. Finding deals like that is what Christmas is all about.Y'know that and Jesus and stuff. and also finding deals for -others- to bring smiles to their faces.
>>11649998i had no idea the original had the paws sculpted in a running pose like that, like when they fly through space... makes sense I guess.>>11650002having only recently switched to putting color UNDER lines instead of same layer, I have to admit there's a perverse joy in just going "whatever, all the transparent shit will get filled" and that is just how it worked on a cel, so
>>11650003The tilt at the knee looks pretty silly, and I wonder how this looks from the side, but.. overall, good job!>>11650026haha, squat mode!>>11650052these also look pretty good>>11650117He's just experiencing some of the side effects of the shortcuts he took to become Big. His tusks shrank a little, too. it happens.>>11650131>>11650132ohhhhh I see.
>>11650163okay now we're gettin silly>>11650165i cant imagine having to rely on retail again. even if I had a car, I would not be interested in trudging my ass to multiple places to see if any of them have the product I want...>>11650167isn't 'thinking it looks better' part of liking something? He's just got his taste.You got a damn point about the potato arms though
>>11650290wait is that not missing a panel?
>>11650297nope, thats literally his alt mode which is super confusing bc he has the easiest fucking form ever
>>11650297Anon is just an idiot that can't look at a review. Them taking official pictures without the panel is funny tho.
>>11650297whats even more confusing is his official box has the youtube play button hidden in the corner so but he has the corner filled in so whatever video they screenshotted has a fixed version kek
>>11650293>I had no idea the original had the paws sculpted in a running pose like thatThat's not the original, read the thread.
>>11650307You read the thread, I said >>11650295 ohhhh I see
>>11650295>The tilt at the knee looks pretty silly, and I wonder how this looks from the side, but.. overall, good job!Thanks, originally I came up with a much better ankle tilt for Grimlock but the height doesn't match with Snarl, so I opted to this instead.The side looks gappy.
>>11650309This is the original foot design for Grimlock. The tilt would look better.
>>11650308How are we supposed to know those two posts are from the same person?
>>11650313once you post "that's not the original" any reply you get exhibiting knowledge of that means the knowledge has now been gained, by the thread
