What do you think of the 13 Primes now that we’ve seen them all?Previous: >>11688113
Dang it, I was just getting a new OP together
>>11694975why? we were on page 6
>>11694987At 146 images, so I was dusting off the pastebins and such
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NO NO NO What is our response MPG bros?
>>11695004I've said it before and I'll say it againMPG should have just been a high end CHUG line rather than another MP subline
>>11695004I've seen a handful of people say that but I'm not sure what they think deserves to be a MP. How can something like MP-10 or MP-12 be MP-worthy but not MPG-17? Of course previous MPs had better alt modes (though I'm not sure MP-10's is much better), but they're also worse elsewhere. To put it another way, where else would it go? Would they feel better if the line were just called Style Gen. without the MPG label? People would still be comparing it to MP-10, rightfully so.
>>11695004Ending MP for MPG just get stranger as time passes and every new release seems to erode whatever little identity MPG had
>>11694990oh, i did not notice.well, I've long since given up on an orderly thread process. It's one of those things where even a single bad egg spoils the entire bag of apples.
>>11694975It feels like part of it's missing.
>>11695004I mean he's rightMPG has been a fucking joke with almost zero good releases
Where's that list of "The good Comics to read"?It had like Movie Prequel/Sequel ones, Hearts of Steel, the good IDW before it became fake, gay and cringe and some others
Most of the thirteen have turned out either boring looking or just lame as toys so I'll probably try to piece together my own set from randos from other TF lines. Pretty much the only one I'll actually keep is the fallen and maybe Liege if someone fixes that stupid head
I would have honestly preferred Liege Maximo to have been a Rampage pretool.
>>11695022Its not the looks imo, its more the pushing of the envelope MP used to represent. MP-10 & MP-12 at the time felt like something we hadn't seen before. It was the OP & Sideswipe that felt definitive to most & leagues above the chug options at the time.Now MPG-17 doesn't feel like iys pushing the envelope anymore. Chug has progressed so far again that these new mpg figures don't look or feel like the MP's of old. A figure that punches above all the rest
>>11695144True. SS86 Prime's engineering feels more like a MP than what MPG-17 does.
>>11695144And this is the best opportunity to introduce Armada/Micron Legends into the MPG line. Make them faithfully recreate the lineart/animation designs unlike the CHUG toys that decided to do a slightly different interpretation instead and retain all and every single Mini-Con gimmick that each of the original Armada/Micron Legends Transformer toy had without sacrificing articulation.
>line is called Age of the Primes>didn't get any of the Primes because I didn't know who any of them were or what they're fromQuickstrike and Big Convoy are fun though
>>11695162SAME, except it’s Quickstrike, Venin and the G2 Dinobots. I never cared for the whole “13 Primes” thing. I’m an old school G1 guy (and Beast Wars) fan.
>>11695162Only Liege really interests me Prime-wise, but I'm happy we got Sky-Byte, Venin and Cybertron Sideways. Excited to see how Armada Sideways turns out too.
>>11695168>Excited to see how Armada Sideways turns out too.It looks like absolute shit, what else do you need to know.
>>11695162>didn't get any of the Primes because I didn't know who any of them were or what they're fromIf you don't even know who Alpha Trion is what are you even doing in this thread?
>>11695035>That moustacheCongratulations, now it looks like a walrus.
>>11695035I want those stickers for the book. It looks so much beter with it.
>>11695004>Actually watched the video in Chinese- not autodub or subtitle translate >His opinion >The thing is literally the best of the best leader class toy that you can get that is just labeled under MP. Even the cheaper price reflects this. >It is not a MP, but it is definitely the best quality toy you can get now. I really not sure what to think
>>11695184They made Alpha Trion at least twice already. Also the famous one wasn't called a 13 Primes because the concept didn't exist then.
>>11695236You said you didn't know any of them, and Alpha Trion was retconned as one of the group in some continuities and is one of the toys released in AotP, so it's logical to think you didn't know him either after what you said.
>>11695236Add on top of this most of the 13 Primes are borrowed shit they are working backwards with. The now infamous Aligned Continuity started this 13 Prime meme, that was 2010. They borrowed the Vector Prime from the 2004, Fallen from 2002, Liege Maximo from 1994 and Alpha Trion from 1984. Others for sure but those four are showing how much a fanfic monstrosity the whole idea was and the only reason it even holds any weight in the fandom is because of how low bar quality the whole production was (ie 30 minute/page toy commercial) >>11695298He might not have by pure technicality. AT didn't start as part of this 13 Primes shit. By your logic he wouldn't know Optimus Prime either. If anything is shows just how inside track this 13 Prime thing is even.
>>11695298Does his box say he is one of the 13? That's been the biggest issue of them abandon real bio/spec cards is you have no context to what you are holding.
>Brawl, Vortex and Blast Off look really good>Onslaught needed that extra detail from the og toyThe combaticons are such a mixed bag. >Beuticus looks like a mess from the waist down >Swindle looks like complete shit>
Just found out what those "darts" are based on.
>>11695439i don't even know what the fuck his lore isi think all i know is that he is evil
>>11695446He was conquering planets, and turning them into new Cybertrons. Then, he was connecting them togheter, creating a gigantic network of connected planets. Somehow that was supposed to help him open portal to gods real, where he planed to kill and usurp Primus.
>>11695449so he's megatronus except he didnt sell his soul to unicron
>>11695452I guess one could argue, that Megatronus was corrupted, and made a lot of wrong choices that led him to become the Fallen, while Liege Maximo was always an evil asshat, just biding his time.
Mark trying to run damage control on instagram kek
>>11695319>Does his box say he is one of the 13?The Thirteen are the only releases with their names written in gold letters, that's a subtle thing but still obvious if you take a look at the boxes.>>11695314>By your logic he wouldn't know Optimus Prime either.Maybe he didn't know Star Optimus Prime specifically. In fact, I'm sure most fans know jack shit about the Battlestars lore, so that's not surprising.
scramble city was a mistake
>>11695506It's the only kind of control they have
>>11695506>>11695512Is he missing a chest piece?
>>11695506I'm actually fine with this, I'm collecting all the frame combiners so I can use this gimmick and that head sculpt is pretty cool.Also anyone who was expecting anything else after it was revealed that Nexus was going to be a Voyager was just coping hard.
>>11695512So the solution to Nexus being barely visible in the frame is to just put him in backwards
>>11695517Superion's chest is the back now, the waist is rotated 180 degrees.
>>11695520So if you actually transform it right, the only difference would be the head.
>>11695506>>11695512This will be a significantly huge missed opportunity if they don't make unique limbs for him.
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>>11695506>>11695512>Making a figure of "The Prime all about combining">Could have made him a smaller dude who combines with a vehicle to become a bigger guy like Star Saber>Could have made a combiner made up of several core-class figures like Volcanicus>Hell could have made a throwback to Power Core Combiners where a single Deluxe figure combines with four vehicles without robot modes based off the Energon combiner limbs>Fuck that, make a single figure who can't combine without 5 other purchases (Not even 4 just for the limbs, you still need to grab a Commander class fig for the combiner frame)>Also make him the most bland looking out of all of the Thirteen while giving him a literal rectangle as an altmode and calling it a space shipHow do you fuck up THIS badly? Like at the end of the day even some of the weaker Primes like Solus and Alchemist were still decent figures at the end of the day. This is just plain bad.
>>11695319>Does his box say he is one of the 13?Yes. It's written on top of their names.
>>11695506This is stupid.they should've just made him a Titan class full combiner set
I don't really wan't to buy Superion or Menasor twice, to give Nexus combined mode limbs. Any chance they make a San Diego Comic Con special edition, with his own dedicated frame and members (not a totally new mold, I'm fine with recolors of existing ones)?
>>11695525>scrombled
>>11695528>Could have made him a smaller dude who combines with a vehicle to become a bigger guy like Star SaberThat's a super mode, not a combiner>Could have made a combiner made up of several core-class figures like VolcanicusCore class combiners suck, Volcanicus was ass and it would have made the combined mode of a Prime look pathetic>Hell could have made a throwback to Power Core Combiners where a single Deluxe figure combines with four vehicles without robot modes based off the Energon combiner limbsThose also were also shit.I can understand not liking watch they did with the toy, but those are all worse ideas.
>>11695537>Those also were also shitOpinion discarded.
>>11695537>>11695545PCCs were a neat idea and most were cool but a lot were fragile. A modern take could probably improve the idea though...
>>11695512mark needs to be fired
>>11695545I was really hoping that they would make him a better PCC. Core voyager, with dron deluxe limbs would be awesome.
>>11695545Is that supposed to look better than Nexus? Be cause it clearly doesn't.
>>11695512Scramble City is based, frameshit is just goddawful.
>>11695560No one says it's better, just that they could do it like PCC, but better, with current enginering, and bigger price point.
>>11695560Smolder at the very least has a proper alt mode.
>>11695562honestly I really don't have an issue with frame combiners when they're being used to enhance the structural stability of a single character. BUT NEXUS IS RETARDEDframes shouldn't scramble. It looks completely wrong and nexus should have been a duocon or something. Mark needs to be publicly castrated.
>>11695512Still awful. Should have just made him a commander torso that's compatible with other figures, a v2 Bruticus like the original, or just an amalgamous retool.
>>11695166>I never cared for the whole “13 Primes” thing>I’m an old school G1 guyPretty sure the whole "original 13 Transformers" concept comes from the G1 comic, whether they were explicitly referred to as "the Primes" back then or not.
>>11695512I'd be madder if I didn't already have Menasor and plan to get Bruticus, but I guess its better than before.
>>11695506>>11695512>Can't even Scramble City properly since Menasor's legs are shorter than SuperionsYea Combiner Frames are the worst shit Legacy has pushed honestly
>>11695572Nah, Furman came up with the idea for Dreamwave.
>>11695506Most of you TF fans are such insufferable faggots.>Nexus is revealed>omg, how come they don't show his combining stuff?>they show his combining stuff>lol, look at them damage control and cope!It's like you guys just want stuff to be mad at.
>>11695581>omg, how come they don't show his combining stuff?and the speculation that came from the question was that it was gonna suck assand it sucks ass
>>11695581The problem is said combing stuff looks like garbage.
>>11695572>>11695576And even before them, there was Covenant. Basically proto Thirteen.https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Covenant_(story)
>>11695575>>Can't even Scramble City properly since Menasor's legs are shorter than SuperionsWait, seriously? Then why did they even bother making it a thing with frames. Jesus, Hasbro.
>>11695581>>Nexus is revealed>it looks like shit>>they show his combining stuff>it looks like shitit's not that hard to comprehend anon
>>11695575I honestly hate how the arms work. They generally have just enough to stay in place. I had to get 3 Superions because the left arms couldn't hold up with a figure attached. The other issue is not making the upper arm connection using pegs, the current connection is those thin bars with pegs at the bottom and I haven't been able to push them all the way on the Superion frame with any of the compatible figures for fear if breaking them since the bar connection is super tight.
>>11695593The issue is>it looks like shitis what some of you would have said no matter what it looked like.
>>11695593It's honestly insane. How does this fuck up so hard? Silverbolt, Onslaught and Motormaster all look fine in all 3 of their modes. This guy only looks good in his robot mode despite having the weakest vehicle mode I've ever seen on a Transformer.
The thing that annoys me about Nexus is that fact that HasTak figured out how to do smaller scale combiners that would have been perfect to recreate Nexus's original toy, but we can’t get that because the higher ups decided that Core doesn’t sell enough to justify the cost
>>11695600The fact that people aren't screeching about Liege Maximo who was revealed at the exact same time proves you wrong.
>>11695607Liege looks good though.
>>11695600We don’t live in an alternate universe where it’s good.And pretending that we did when we have what we have is a denial of reality
>>11695607Yeah, even if someone doesn't care for Liege, one can't deny that they did a good job with him.
>>11695613Yeah. I wish he was fatter, but it's a miracle he looks as good as he is.
>>11695511>Maybe he didn't know Star Optimus Prime specifically.That's another damning fact of this, Star Optimus Prime wasn't the title of the 13th until this toy line.
>>11695537>but those are all worse ideas.No, none of them are, wheat we are getting was the worse idea. Look at >>11695506>>11695512and tell us how the fucking hell that's a better idea?
>>11695528The problem with most of these is that Nexus Prime himself IS the combiner. He is supposed to split into separate individual characters, having them be compromised defeats the purpose of him being the combiner.Then there is the other issue at hand that the end result not only looks like dogshit but also removes the purpose of the character.
>>11695572>>11695590>Anon notes the whole thing is like really bad fan fiction >it actually is really bad fan-fiction
>>11695604Nexus shouldn't be a small combiner.>>11695600The problem here is that it does, in fact, actually look like shit.
Given his size in fiction, Liege Maximo should be the Titan for this line. And they should make Arisen some voyager at best.
>>11695639anon most of AoP is turning out to be a lot of "shouldn't be"
>>11695572When I say I’m an old school G1 guy, I mean the cartoon.
>>11695637I wouldn't say fan fiction, but Club fiction is pretty obscure. I tried to read it few times, but its mostly boring wank service, and wiki fodder. When they came up with Universal Stream names, it was way to nerdy for me. Pretty sure only like 5 people in the fandom cared about it, and all of them are tfwiki editors.
>>11695646So say that then. Especially since the comic is even older.
>>11695648That's been the issue with these brands is much like the cape comics the market keeps shrinking which leads to the inmates running the asylum so things grow worse and worse because they are feeding an ever shrinking base. Naturally it will hit a failure point if it shrinks too much but that might be more a question now of "when" rather than "if" looking at how the brands are going forward now.
>>11695650By about a year anon. It's nothing impressive and I doubt you know much of either the comic or the show for how vague you speak on topics.
>>11695655Actually by less than a year. And I've probably forgotten more G1 lore than you've ever known.Imagine openly bragging about only knowing the G1 toon and BW out of a huge franchise and then trying to flex about your superior knowledge in the same breath.
>>11695655Not anon, but I actually know more about the comic than show. While I did watch it, I only saw maybe like 30% of it. It's just to silly/boring to me.
>>11695655The comic came out in I think May of 84, and the cartoon in September.
>>11695657>Imagine openly bragging about only knowing the G1 toon and BWwho's doing that here?>>11695658>>11695659bro we can track IPs again.
>>11695664>who's doing that here?>>11695166>I’m an old school G1 guy (and Beast Wars) fan.This is who I was talking to. So if this isn't you, why are you even jumping in faggot?
>>11695659May 29th, specifically.
Nexus died so we could get inexplicably gigantic Star Convoy insteadGrim
>>11695665how is that bragging? It's a statement.
>>11695664>bro we can track IPs again.Cool, go and track it to see I'm not the anon he was responding to, Colombo.
>>11695669Falling apart over nothing anon. Must be lonely. I'll leave you to it then.
>>11695668Ok, and how would that "statement" mean you somehow know more than me then?>it doesn't
>>11695512A set Thirteen that each has to be the patron saint of specific transformer gimmicks was a mistake.
>>11695671>Falling apart over nothing anon.Lol. You made a stupid accusation, trying to sound smart. But now you're acting like "yeah, cool, whatever, didn't care in the first place". What are you, 12? But go on, prove me wrong. Entertine me, my monkey.
>>11695676And yet no Head, Target or Power master gods. Tsk, tsk, tsk Hasbro.
While I didn’t see the 1986 movie in theaters (I was too young) but I did see it when it came out on video (March of 1987). It was one of the top five most important days of my life. Oddly I wasn’t upset about Prime dying. I was too enthralled with Unicron.
>>11695682The movie was probably the first TF media I ever witnessed. So for 6 year old me everyone that died in the begining was kinda "who cares, first time I see them".
>>11695681I think that’s because the various “Masters” are meant to be non-Cybertronians, hence why none of them are represented by one of the Thirteen
>>11695676I think it's cool. The only part where it starts to get stupid for me is the idea that each Prime has "descendants" somehow, IE all beasts from Onyx, etc.I much prefer when all TFs (including the 13) were birthed from the planet Cybertron itself through Primus. I don't like characters being created off-world (like the Dinobot origin in the cartoon) for the same reason.
>>11695687The micromasters are represented via Micronus, and both western fiction and japenese fiction brought up that they are basically the same thing.Meanwhile, it gets murky with Headmasters due to the differences in fiction, but at their core, are just combiners.
>>11695687>“Masters” are meant to be non-CybertroniansFair, didn't think of that. I might have got confused by IDW introducing "ancient headmasters", now that I think about it.
>>11695692I should have specified the binary bonded Masters. Honestly, it’s weird Quintus isn’t the one that represents binary bonding given he’s mostly known for his experiments on organics
>mark returns to immediately reveal the worst toy in the linelmao
>>11695506>>11695512Looks bad in both individual and combined mode. So any justification is discarded.
>>11695693Those were titan masters. And titan masters are.. welllore time.According to titans return,Titan Masters are a small type of natural cybertronian created to maintain the inside of Titans. They're also able to be 'gifts' to societies and civilizations titans encounter on their journeys across the universe. The ability for them to be become headmasters to share their unique abilities with cybertronians is secondary to their standard purpose in lore. (but obviously not in toy form)Since they're small and provide power ups to other cybertronians, they are most likely related to micronus and do not need their own prime. POTP prime masters are just titan masters with the power of a prime. The pretender shell gimmick was made to hide their powers from detection.>>11695699This is a good idea. Quintus experimenting on organics to turn them into power-ups like titan masters and mini-cons..
>>11695699I'd probably split the difference:-Nexus makes the HM, and TM (Japan version)-Quintus takes that reasearch and uses it as a basis to also make pretenders tech. (He made western HM and TM
>>11695715Amd forgot that Micronus would also contribute to Nexus research on TM and HM.
>>11695708As much as I like IDW, I am glad we’re past that era of the franchise where they felt the need to explain every part of Cybertronian “biology” being due to ancient history. Like the Titans being the servants of the Primes and requiring Cityspeakers to communicate with them instead of just being big Transformers. Heck, they make such a big deal about ancient Titans but never acknowledge the Last Autobot, an ancient Titan created by Primus
>>11695581>just eat the slop, bro
>>11695722IDWthe answer to a question no one asked.
>>11695730Wasn't it Roberts who started overexplaining, and then Barber tried to keep up with him, and it was even worse?
>>11695734No? Roberts stuck to his own corner of space adventures and relationship drama, it was basically all Barber doing the deep lore shit.
>>11695635I already did. All the other ideas in this thread suck ass. The only way Nexus was better is to make it a full combiner, something we knew for months wasn't going to be given his Voyager size class.Every other option said here is even more half assed than having him connect to the frames as a torso. A super mode/duocon/core class midget combiner/half-assed combiner with non transforming drones? All of them even more removed to the original idea of Nexus than what we got.
All you had to do, is add two more guys and make him bigger, Hasbro.
>>11695749But Roberts pretty much took over the entire Megatron origin, to make him misunderstood victim of the system.
>>11695581That's just the tip of the iceberg. Here's the biggest complaint.>they show his combining stuff>Now he's completely unsalvageable. The way he combines goes completely against what he's supposed to be in-lore!Now they just explode in flames about how this Nexus Prime is completely unsalvageable to the point where even his combined mode sucks for being a hollow mess that SHOULDN'T BE CRADLED FROM THE BACK OF THE FRAME!!! Now people are just gonna beg for the true Nexus Prime to be HasLab at the last minute as some form of damage control, because my god, this horrible excuse for the "Prime of Combination" is the worst thing I ever saw in my life.
>>11695592Somebody else can post it since I don't have them on hand without digging em out but somebody pose Superion next to Menasor and swap a legIt's JUST off enough that he'd been like big boots lol>>11695595The arms are so god damn dogshitThey're so horrible to me to even start with, then you slap bots on them and it still doesn't feel goodI really do think not even 3P can save them
>>11695512I'm not even mad about it, just numb. What a shame, I wonder what happened to the design they had on the boxart with all the primes?
>>11695035Also curious on this and this reminded meSo the Vector Prime from Legacy that sucks and basically needs 3P is it right? We probably won't get a remake/touch up or anything in Age of the Primes?
>>11695755That's expanding an individual character's backstory; that's not what anyone's talking about. We're talking about how the lore in the comic linked every single TF trait back to the 13.I will say though, IDW Megs was one of the only situations where you could get away with making him redeemable like that. Compare him in Marvel or Dreamwave/MegatronOrigin, to his characterization in the early IDW Furman run, or even AHM: in the former stuff he's very blatantly a psychopathic ragemonster, even in his State Games origin story which gave him good motivation. In IDW from the start, Megs was shown as much more pragmatic and reserved unless showing his force was absolutely necessary. He always had a straighter head on him than 90% of other Megatrons; taking that and showing him to be tired of the war makes sense, imo.
>>11695769I'm guessing it got scrapped when it was decided that Nexus had to be a voyager?
>>11695769I think that design is supposed to be a vague representation of his combined mode. At least the head is fairly close.
>>11695769It's definitely the outlier now, even beyond Star Convoy
>>11695314>>11695572>>11695576None of that is quite right. Basically, while it wasn't fully formed until the early-2000s, the idea has existed since Furman's run on the Marvel comic. The Last Autobot and Liege Maximo were both heavily laying clues that they were part of some mysterious long-gone pantheon of "original Transformers", but details were intentionally vague. Prima was also introduced here, but only as "the first Prime/Matrix bearer" and one of the first TFs created (if not the first?) - which makes him a member of these guys by proxy, but I'm not entirely sure if Furman thought about that angle at the time.Come the Dreamwave comic and Furman'a introduction of The Fallen, he basically said outright "his story is building off ideas I had wanted to explore with The Last Autobot” during Marvel. There was also a guidebook he wrote around this time, and that was the first mention iirc of "the 13 original transformers", but I don't recall if it actually said 13 yet? It did introduce the idea that Macaddam was rumored to be one of them by drunk patrons, tho.Behind the scenes, Aaron Archer had crafted up his own version of the 13, and this is what'd later evolve into The Aligned 13 - he took Prima, Liege, Fallen, and Alpha Trion, and added a bunch of others meant to represent different TF gimmicks. He was also the one who created Vector Prime, who I'm actually fond of specifically because "TF god of time" isn't exactly "embodying a toy gimmick to be an ancestor" lol.Around this time, Nexus Prime was also invented separately by a 3rd group of people, for the collector's club comic.Anyway, Nexus got folded into the group and the full 13 roster got publicly unveiled for the first time when the Aligned continuity was first announced (all with dramatic redesigns, of course). The rest you guys all know.
>>11695506This just isn't what Nexus Prime is supposed to be. He's not a combiner torso, he IS the combiner.They essentially just made a new Heatwave and called it a day.
>>11694973>Behold: Guy.
>>11695818Also Guy.
>>11695162The only good ones are the ones they slowly dripfed as part of Furman's schizoposting over the years. The one's Archer shit out in an afternoon for his lore bible who only had boring Aligned designs are all lame as fuck.
>>11695162The only ones I bought so far are>The FallenI read a lot of Dreamwave back in middle school and fuck me I'd be lying if an edgy black and purple tank bot on fire wasn't the coolest thing to me (Also back in the day I didn't really get the full story of The War Within so I assumed when Prime and Megatron got lost in the space bridge I thought that The Fallen was a fusion of the two)>Micronus Minicons are cool, simple as. I'm considering Alpha Trion if I can find him cheap since I can just give him a moustached head and all my troubles with the figure would be placated, and Liege Maximo because I'm a Marvelfag also. Onyx Prime too if they ever do a Blue version, but if there's no sign of that I'll probably buy him within the year. There rest I don't give a shit about.
behold, Nexus Prime
>>11695528>>Hell could have made a throwback to Power Core Combiners where a single Deluxe figure combines with four vehicles without robot modes based off the Energon combiner limbsI really thought they were gonna do this.
>>11695785For me the biggest disappointment is that head sculpt, its so ugly.I like how the base robot mode gives a bit of old school 70s super robot vibes and the jet mode reminded me of the very early "transforming" mecha like Raideen where its just kinda laying down and hiding the head under a cockpitit was obvious just looking at him that he was gonna form a torso for any frame so what i was hoping for was that the head would look similar to those old school super robot heads, make him both the first combiner in terms of lore but also in terms of real world aesthetics, I imagined the whole cockpit would be hiding a corny head like voltes v
>>11695004Ginrai was the last true MP.
They need to redo Vector Prime and whatever this is.
>>11695870>For me the biggest disappointment is that head sculpt, its so ugly.for me it's the exact opposite, the CoP combined mode head is literally the only thing revealed about this toy that I like.I just want a toy of this design in general.
>>11695722>Heck, they make such a big deal about ancient Titans but never acknowledge the Last Autobot, an ancient Titan created by PrimusThey always forget him. Aaron completely forgot him when creating the first 13 roster.
>>11695916His design was used for Veccy and overlaps Prima in other aspects. Can't be helped.
Titan Ark already pulls a lot from the Last Autobot anyway
>>11695506That's literally the head of a bootleg robot I had when I was kid lmaoWhy couldn't they at least keep the cool FunPub head?
>>11695931I really like the idea of one of the 13 being a giant sentinel to protect people, I think it's a fun archetype :)I dont blame them for not making him in AotP though, design-wise he likely has too much overlap with the Titan The Ark they made years ago, still. Shame because I think The Ark is kinda ugly and frumpy. Also lacks that more teal-ish silver the comic gave The Last Autobot, that looked cool with the dirty gold.
>>11695880I think this is still possibly achievable. Maybe that future prime artifact pack is coming out itlll have some dudes in it. The arms would be two deluxe figures and the legs could be two core class figures. like a shrunken down version of the frame combiners
>>11695870>For me the biggest disappointment is that head sculpt, its so ugly.He looks like a bayverse guy
All this Nexus stuff could be solved by just giving him his own damn trailer-frame
>>11695976To be honest, they could just release his own set of limbs, based on the original. Simple.
>>11695976No, just redo the entire guy with modern engineering, NO FRAME, and all of his components work as two Deluxe, two Voyagers, and one Leader with all original molds sold in a set. And I don't fucking care if this guy is sold in HasLab, just make a Nexus Prime faithful to the FunPub design, even if it can create more Energon Maximus-style combiners that will also be HasLab!
>>11695985>>11695984>>11695976None of this will fix the generic-ass fucking design. Its just a bad design. A bad robot design.
>>11695987Then what do (You) want your Nexus Prime?
>>11695988I don't. As soon as they commited to releasing thirteen of these stupid things I switched to Warhammer
>>11695439he shoots out dildos and butt plugs?
>>11695994All the baddest bitches do
>>11695987Frame should at least add on to his altmode, since you can't change that at this point.>>11695994Cybertronian Space Cocks
>>11695991THEN FUCK THE FUCK OUT OF THIS FUCKING THREAD AND NEVER FUCKING RETURN! YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE TO FUCKING TRANSFORMERS THAT YOU NEVER FUCKING DESERVE TO BELONG HERE. BEYOND FUCKING GEEWUN, BEYOND FUCKING REEDUN, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, NOW!
>>11695785lol, LMAO>>11695870Don’t you dare bring up Voltes V in the same sentence with this abomination
>>11695162I got stick with Solus Prime in a Walmart Black Friday Christmas two pack. Hated her at first until I realized she looks a lot like Nautica, so I'm repurposing her as Windblade and Chromia's BFF.
>>11695667Could that listing for a Sentinel Prime Artifact Pack in actuality be a Nexus Prime Artifact Pack, with new limbs
Walmart has Sideways and Excellion on clearance for 12. I already had two Sideways, but I was very tempted to grab a few more for army building. I did get an Excellion for the hell of it.
>>11695512>scramble city was a mistakeEverything wrong in this picture comes from avoiding Scramble City in favor of toonslop accuracy
>>11695512HNNNGGGHHH IM GONNA URGH I CANT ANYMORE IM GONNA IM GONNA TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
>>11695506>>11695512Holy KWABoliCopers eternally BTFO>>11695581>Nexus is revealed>background generic robot mode and box-with-wings alt mode>"SHUT UP CHUDS THE HIDDEN TORSO MODE WILL BE SO GOOD">torso mode is garbage
>>11696010FunPub has never met a headsculpt they couldn't fuck up
>>11696062What does toon mean today, retard-kun?
>>11695506>>11695512Remember in Combiner Wars there was that solo release of Scattorshot before either Computron set?He could form a torso called "Betatron"?This is that.
where armada jetfire
>>11696066How is this FunPub's fault? >>11696080Never
>>11696069>the next stage of cope emerges
>>11696083Nexus put on blackface.
>>11695506What's so bad about it? I like it
>>11695528be realistic though. did any of those feel likely in this day and age?
>>11695534wait so he's only compatible with the frame guys?>>11695537Iunno man I think drone combiners often work out great..
>>11695568I am okay with frames as long as the frame turns into something usefulit doesn't have to be a robot, but it should be something reasonable for the others to carry. a semi trailer is -okay-. a big weird brick that a plane plugs into is less okay. and I have NO idea how you'd pull it off with beastformers, but I would like to see them try anyway.fact is, combining robots are a vestige of the brick days. As anyone who has tried to make Lego mechs can attest: It's easy to combine bricks into larger bricks. It's much harder to combine multi-jointed modular bodies into one multi-jointed modular body. These days we demand so much articulation, and every point of articulation means either a separate transformer, or a guy with a huge elbow or knee built into him, or a guy that splits in half while the frame handles the elbow part.
>>11695639cant disagree with you there. woof. some of the worst modes I've ever seen.>>11695636the 13 primes are a difficult enough concept, one of them is also multiple guys? >>11695648>>11695652indeed.>>11695650the comics predate the show!?!?>>11695664ehh? we can't track IPs
>>11696102Superion's superjet mode is awesome though, the base mode is the part that sucks. I barely ever have silverbolt in robot mode anyway though since he's just not super fun to mess with.>I have NO idea how you'd pull it off with beastformersmagnaboss ironhide forms all four limbs of the figure, lmao
Still looks like a better toy than Amungus Prime or whatever. The one that just falls to pieces.
>>11695691Though in fairness, it is kind of meta-appropriate since that's literally how Transformers was made. A bunch of unrelated robot toys being kludged together into one group.>>11695730kek>>11695753this one is almost acceptable. fascinating.>>11695791>None of that is quite right.and you guys wonder why I'm so bad at knowing G1 lore. This shit is so confusing and nobody has a consistent story.
>>11696104>the comics predate the show!?!?Yep, the original Marvel run started on May 8th, while the first episode wouldn’t air until September 17th. Heck, the original plot of the series was devised by Denny O'Neil, Jim Shooter, and Bob Budiansky, who also wrote the first part of the comic and every single American G1 Name, Bio, and Tech Specs
>>11696010i actually think the sculpt improves on the original, the eye to mouth distance works better this way. very Alex Toth.Itis kinda hilarious though seeing this telephone game of 'mouth area becomes glowy mouth becomes glowy visor'.. if I am indeed interpreting this properly.
>>11696110The extra irony is the original Transformers pitch opens with speculative origins of the race but quickly says NONE OF THAT SHIT MATTERS FUCK OFF WITH IT
>>11696110Quick correction, Denny O'Neil named Optimus Prime and Prowl, but every other American toy was Budiansky
>>11696113Dodged a bullet. Imagine if there was Ten-Eyetron or Vibroblast.
>>11696087Don't confuse anything I said for positive
>>11696115Fun fact, O'Neil originally named one of the jets Ulchtar until Budiansky came in and renamed him Starscream
>>11696106>Superion's superjet mode is awesome thoughThis is just a tennis racquet.
>>11696128Way to prove the "nerds don't know what sports are" stereotype if you think that looks like a tennis racket.
>>11695525the gaps in the chest are just so visually distracting, he looks like hes still missing a chest piece
>>11696106yeah and Ironhide sucked. and becoming the entire arms and legs also sucked, very unsatisfying.>>11696110but... what about their initial production? release dates don't really mean that much if they're only 4 months apart.>it was written as comic bios and tech specs firstwell goll-lee. IIRC isn't that also how GI Joe and Mortal Kombat got their characters sorted out? I'm just really surprised that's the case for Transformers.>>11696112I wish more scifi would do that.
>>11696128>>11696129seriously. what a maroonit's clearly a hagoita
>>11696115>VibroblastHe turns into a female sex toy, doesn't he?
>>11696131more like ninjago mechs where the shoulders need so much reinforcement, due to legos' natural tendency to come apart when pulled in an upward direction, that you get these huge shoulder cowlings and really odd shoulder heights, either high or low.
>>11695976The only way for Nexus Prime to be a better toy is if Hasbro went all in and made updated Energon/Superlink toys and have him be retooled from Barricade. But of course they'll never do that
>>11696156I don’t know about Mortal Kombat, but yes, GI Joe was the same way. GI Joe's success is what led Transformers to get the exact same treatment. Another reason is that back in the day there were regulations in the amount of animation a commercial for a toy could have, to prevent possible false advertising, which didn’t apply to comic books, so if you notice, the first Transformers commercials are technically advertising the comic, not the toys https://youtu.be/mAIS8i8f4fU?si=eRdCoASj0NPVJ-rW
>>11694975https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgyonkrEWik
>>11696167It’d be better to do Nexus first because he’s the only one with five unique molds. Then all HasTak has to do is make a Deluxe Storm Jet and they can do all of the Energon Air and Demolition Teams members
>>11696171ohhhh clever.fuckin regulators.>>11696174Did you see, some guy actually made this product, complete with the packaging, and sent it to Dan Povenmire as a gift.
>>11696160either way the shape just accentuates how incomplete he feels as a torso. i know about engineering costs add-up, but hasbro didnt even include any accessories that could have helped complete his look (outside the matrix of combination)
>>11696194it must be intensely frustrating to be a part of any current entertainment franchisesyou grew up watching this shit, you thought 'someday, I could be the one making the toys'and you get there and every exec is a drooling retard and you have to sabotage everything you make to meet their idiot demands.It feels like a fucking villain backstory.
>>11696010Man that prototype sculpt fucking rules.
I'd say the biggest drawback to frame combiners is not the frame itself but how prohibitively expensive they are.You could achieve something reasonably close (though never identical) to funpub Nexus Prime by mixing and matching Bruticus and Superion's molds but that would be a 250$ boxset or it eats up a big chunk of the mainline, including a commander slot.
I think I might have an idea of how they might've done better and in budget>Have Nexus be a commander class torso>Main bot folds into 2 types of torsos>One for a CW build and the other more tightly folded to fit into his AotP combiner kibble>AotP kibble becomes feet and hands for his CW combo>Cover him in 5mm ports, and a few pegs>Possible to add PCC pegs to him?Also, if anyone can I'd like to see pictures of the CW torso guys trying to fit into their AotP torso kibble.
Do you know the frustration of looking for something that’s way too old to be in circulation, but also not old enough to be considered vintage or nostalgic?God bless Japan
>>11696167That would be awesome
>tons of new messages on /tfg/>enter>it's just autist discussing some retarded figureI fucking hate modern /tfg/.back then we had just anons posting our photos and enjoying toys.Now it's autismo-faggots discussing "new leaks" - and then thread slows down and then rinse and repeat
>>11696266>WTF, how are anons discussing shit on a discussion boardSorry anon, but I really don't think you should be accusing others of being autismo
I would've made nexus like siege reflector and done him as a 3 bot troop build combiner. He could either form a torso or both a leg and an arm. Make the legs form an arm with the hips acting as a double elbow and the torso form a leg with the cockpit section acting as the foot.
>>11694973i am the only guy who likes Nexus in this thread.I see him as transformer that can "capture" Combiners and when he does that - combiner becomes your ally and you can control it.So in my play for example Bruticus will be attacking autobot city and autobots will be falling and then suddenly NEXUS COMES TO SAVE THE DAY and he captures Bruticus and bruticus starts attacking Decepticons.It's the FIRST combiner that can do that!it will be so much fun. everyboy esle in this thread is a boomer with imagination that died eons ago
What is my best option for a movie Starscream, preferably with the tattoos?
>>11696285I think a lot more people would like him if he actually turned into a proper vehicle too
>>11695657>Imagine openly bragging about only knowing the G1 toon and BW out of a huge franchiseG1 and BW spawned multiple seasons, spin-offs, and sequels from Headmasters to BW Neo and it was at it's most healthiest and peak popularity. Not sure what else we're suppose to flex over if not the shows. The push about the 13 primes just doesnt interest me because outside Alpha Trion being retconned as one and I remember Solus Prime being mentioned in Prime with the hammer they used they're not really a thing, yeah? I guess The Fallen was mentioned but the whole push with this lore seems uninteresting without any actual attachment to these characters beyond retcons. Maybe they are in the IDW comics but I aint readin those things given all I ever hear people talk about them are gay and trans shit on Twitter and how Optimus Prime would abolish ICE. Already tells me what I need to know about those comic plotlines and its fans lolAnyway, we need actual new Headmaster molds like Targetmasters are getting. I'm tired of Titan Returns recolors and remolds.
>>11696274I can see two making a torso together, and their weapon making a bigger helmet with 5mm pegs and ports. Though they would have to use Wild King's double pegs.
>>11696289He's perfect as a vehicle. it's a flying brick that has just 1 mission:1) aim to the combiner's chest2) dash forward and attach to Combiner's chest and transform capturing combiner's Mainfraime and making it your allynothing personnel mega-dork, Bruticus is ours now
>>11696066In this case, the problem wasn't Funpub's headsculpt. The problem was the artist drawing the 13 for the Covenant of Primus not understanding what he was looking at.
>>11696083Because it was their genius idea to use such a dark color for his mouth, that most people didn't even notice that he has one?
>>11696101>wait so he's only compatible with the frame guys?Yes.
>>11696301>nexus captures combiner war criminal(s)>kills dozens of other war criminals with new body, possibly causing severe mental anguish to the limb bots>then he somehow destroys the combiner to make sure the enemies can never combine again because extra edgethis is such an outstandingly retarded idea that I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet
>>11696069At least the solo release of Scattershot didn't require you to cannibalize parts from an $80+ commander class figure just to be able to connect limbs to him (which would then also render the rest of that $80+ toy unable to combine with anything else).
>>11696317Have you never seen the toy in person? It's clearly a mouth. In addition to that, it's also clearly a mouth on all of the artwork he's depicted in. The problem is Hasbro's artists/designers relying on half-baked Google searches to look up their own characters, and then none of their bosses bothering to correct them when they make stupid mistakes like that. This sort of thing has been happening again and again and again.
>>11696285Count me as the second anon to like the new Nexus Prime as I always see Nexus Prime as a duplicitous bot whose combining ability allows him to steal or convert any bots into limbs and enslave them, shutting off their minds so that he himself is the only one in control and ignoring the inherent flaw most Combiners have. The only ones that can defeat him are the Energon Combiners like Optimus and Superion Maximus for employing drones and thus evening the field.
>>11696325this is the best ideaIf i was Nexus i would capture Bruticus and go on a berserk-rampage against decepticons not caring about any damage i will recieve, using my own hand as a shield (so Vortex will be killed).If i will get destroyed - good.If i will manage to live long enough (before escape-poding myself out of the battle) before i will do as much damage as i can - also good.it's like shooting two ducks with 1 shot >>11696348b-based
>>11695791>There was also a guidebook he wrote around this time, and that was the first mention iirc of "the 13 original transformers", but I don't recall if it actually said 13 yet?It was from the Ultimate Guide's page on Maccadam's Old Oil House where it says there was a rumor that the bartender was secretly one of the 13 Original Primes. Simon Furman himself later said that this wasn't part of any big plan, but rather he just liked the idea of overblown rumors at this Cybertronian pub. But people then latched onto the idea and ran with it. So other characters previously created before that were never intended to be part of the 13, because the concept of the 13 didn't even exist yet. For example, Liege Maximo's whole deal from the G2 comic was that there must be a balance between good and evil, so when the first prime was created, so was Liege Maximo, and that Megatron is in some way offspring of his. Furman's unofficial story, "Alignment," went on to further establish Liege Maximo as one of the first Cybertronians, but once again, there was no explicit mention of the 13 because that wasn't even a thing yet. Saying that he exists as an ancient, evil counter-balance to the existence of a prime is a far cry from saying he was himself a prime and just one of 13 total dudes rather that a counter to one guy. But years later, when the idea of the 13 Original Primes was embraced by Hasbro as actual canon rather than a rumor at a bar, Liege Maximo (along with Alplha Trion and The Fallen) got retconned onto belonging to the group. Also, Nexus Prime never "got folded into the group," because as far as I'm aware, he was always meant to be a member. He was created after the published reference to the 13 in the Ultimate Guide, and regardless of Furman's original intention with that line, FunPub wanted to run with the idea of the 13 as a real thing. But since his toys were released at a rate of one per year, it took five years before he was finally complete.
>>11696333I'm still furious at how they massacred my boy T-Wrecks' deco
>>11696301So, he's Starro?
>>11696362Liege Maximo was always meant to be one of the 13, Furman himself wrote him as such in Alignment and the Ultimate Guide. He predates the concept officially, but that was the intent.It's just that the 13 weren't all Primes when Furman introduced the idea, that was a Funpub retcon.
>>11696292has transformers ever had a plot where a decepticon/predacon runs for office as an autobot/maximal and just starts being openly evil and for some reason nobody stops him, instead people just start hating autobots/maximals?
>>11696319insane. there's like, two of those. and it makes no sense to combine with them since that means you're using PART of one guy as part of your combiner.that shit flies in sentai, for sure, but not here
I'm more interested in a real combiner, if it is not too expensive.
>>11696373it reminded me of that Superman Returns movie, where they get basically everything right except they biff the colors hard. deep bright cyan with deep blood red? what the FUCK was that? do you not know hues?t-wrecks is supposed to be deep, rich, Red Delicious Apple red. They changed that to ketchup red and I cannot imagine why anyone thought that was a good idea.
>>11696382He was always meant to be one of the original transformers, but not one of the original "13," because the idea of there being 13 of them is what didn't exist. And I looked it up on that page of the Ultimate Guide and you're correct that it refers to them as the original 13 "transformers" rather than primes, so I misremembered that part. So Liege Maximo was meant to be one of the first, and an evil counterpart to the first prime, but he wasn't "always meant to be one of the 13," because there being originally 13 wasn't a concept that existed when Liege Maximo was created.
>>11695955Is this a winspector bootleg lmao
>>11696388Then on top of all that, wasn't he the guy they wanted to paint his teeth, but ended up using the headsculpt with his mouth closed for some reason, so the paint for his teeth just ended up slapped across his lips?
>>11696393ahahaha yes. What a fucking fuckup.and it's only gonna get worse. We are living in the Idiocracy future, the only difference is instead of people watching like 9 tv stations at once, they're watching nothing but phones. Competence is about as easy to find as fresh water in an african shantytown.
>>11696387>if it is not too expensive.LMAO, mateThis shit is going to be more expensive than most third party stuffIt's like 500 bucks USD
>>11696260I'm literally hunting Prime stuff now and only Japan did the Deluxe Ironhide, Frenzy/rumble and some others it seemsI want the Skywarp and Thundercracker too because they're on the Deluxe First Edition Mold which is based>>11696285I unironically like him
>>11696390>He was always meant to be one of the original transformers, but not one of the original "13," because the idea of there being 13 of them is what didn't exist.Does this matter, though? It's still the same concept, the only difference is we originally didn't know [exactly] how many there were, and it was a later retcon that they were all Primes of some sort. Obviously the idea evolved over time, but I don't think that it's a lie to say the Marvel's "The Original Transformers" were the same concept that became "The 13 Primes" in the 2000s.
>>11696362>Also, Nexus Prime never "got folded into the group," because as far as I'm aware, he was always meant to be a member. After or around The Ultimate Guide's publication, Aaron Archer had internally created his own vision of the 13, including creating Vector Prime. This wasn't publicly shared, he only showed off a sketch exploring his concept from back then, like, only a handful of years ago. But, Nexus was notably not a part of that initial roster - because as we know, Nexus was created by the FunPub guys, not Archer. What I meant was that by the time of the Aligned Continuity, Nexus got folded into that initial Archer lineup to form the one we're familiar with now.
>>11696108>>None of that is quite right.>and you guys wonder why I'm so bad at knowing G1 lore. This shit is so confusing and nobody has a consistent story.Issue is it's -a lot- of speculation and conjecture. Like one anon said it's like bad fan-fiction, vague ideas dragged to the front that you pray the fans will just eat up taking style over substance. This is a kids toy brand that's whole lore was built around selling said toys so in someways it's expected be we have reached the point that the manchildren that grew up with the show/comic are now making the products and looking over to what happen with Marvel and DC when that took place it's clear we are ahead for some bad times.
>>11696292>G1 and BW spawned multiple seasons, spin-offs, and sequels from Headmasters to BW Neo and it was at it's most healthiest and peak popularityI don't disagree, but I also notice you're conveniently leaving out the second half of my quote.>>11696390>but not one of the original "13," because the idea of there being 13 of them is what didn't exist. Kek, is this what all the pedantry in this thread was about? The specific number?
>>11696459>show/comic are now making the products and looking over to what happen with Marvel and DC when that took place it's clear we are ahead for some badidw had tranny bots. the problem is Americans write super hero shit that's all they can do
OK, so now with this whole shitshow and people complaining about Nexus Prime (even in the comment sections of Mark's post), do you think there's a chance of them remaking him at the Commander class price point? Even if it is in 5 years from nowThey could take the "cheapest" route (recolored Superion/Bruticus limb bots + recolored Onslaught as Heatwave), the only thing they'd need to do is make a new combiner frame (mostly to accommodate the different leg bot styles). And of course new heads for the combined mode and the components
>>11696268NTA, but this is an image board, not a discussion board. The point is to post pics of your toys; the problem is that this place is infested with people who don't actually collect toys themselves, so the only way they can participate is by posting "leaks" or other people's images.
>>11696536>The point is to post pics of your toysNo anon, the point is to discuss and share images
>>11696399>has Pegasus Saber on preorder Don't I know it!
>>11696534No.
>>11696393Yeah, that still infuriates me, especially since we know the mold for the proper head sculpt existed - there were a few reports of Kingdom Megatron's that had a grimacing head back in the day, and when they finally got around to releasing T-Wrecks, he was shown using that same exact grimacing head. Combine that with the fact that the machines had clearly need keyed up to apply paint to his face in the EXACT spot where his teeth would have been visible if they'd used the grimacing head, and the fuckup is undeniable.
>>11696551>red megatronHOLY SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT HIMi have regular one. then Jurassic park one...and was happy i have all colorsi forgot this one existed...damnPS:I wish they did more like with current Grimlocks
>>11696266Most of us left to smaller communities that connect in irl, the reason you see nothing is the hack removed any doubt of what this place really is so the few of us that come back are not here for the community or worse they just can't into soc ail networks so this is it.>>11696519The issue is broader than comics or country. The moment the teams working on a projects are by majority the fans that grew up with it, things get weird in a bad way. Normally that only happens when the product starts to decline in sales such as what happen with the big two in comics or as a side Transformers: Car Robots anime where the majority working on it are fans of what they grew up with and it starts causing serious shake ups with the designs because it's no longer about making new things, it's about parading the old things and wanting to make them the focus.
>>11696010
I wish Wild King have recolor version of Ignite Leo as Lio Convoy and Hydrophant as Big Convoy. Sadly there isn't a monke for Optimus Primal.
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>>11695506>>11695512Can we fire that retard already?
>>11696010Not a misinterpretation but a conscious redesign, we have new info now. https://roseknightmare.tistory.com/2760
>>11696562Nice
>>11696333>Have you never seen the toy in person? It's clearly a mouth.In person, with a closer look, sure. Looking at pictures, not really.
>>11696560>Most of us left to smaller communities that connect in irlthat's fucking retarded
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>>11696680Bruticus needs to be added to this image
>>11696680Man, I am still so disappointed about RID Sideburn. All I wanted was a good update of the original that wasn't 90% clear plastic and instead hes a bad retool of an already bad figure.And still no word on the other two brothers
>>11696285>It's the FIRST combiner that can do that!Galvatronus did that firstYour shitty headcanon won't polish a $43 turd
>>11695537>>11695750>but those are all worse ideas.How are any of these worse than spending $43 on a figure with a shit deco that's bad in both it's main modes and whose gimmick requires you to spend at least $200 to actually work.Am I certain this isn't just Mark running damage control?
>>11696680What was wrong with Skyquake other than being the wrong Skyquake wearing Skyquake like a skinsuit?
>>11696285That's fun, even if I like him for being the genericon-style Prime from the geewun flashbacks. You couldn't pay me to engage with the frame meme past Menasor, and only because I can always remove the arms and shins and use the CW limbs with a couple of adapters.
>>11696385IIRC Maximals were retconned into being the bad guys while the Predacons were the poor downtrodden underclass, which is a decent idea if we take Dinobot as the model Predacon but that was likely snake lady's doing rather than a real writer trying something interesting.
>>11696770The mold itself was a bit hit or miss, with it not properly tabbing together. I’m shocked they never retooled it into a G1 Skyquake though, especially with all the promotions of it connecting to the Needlenose mold
>>11696387>having the bootleg as a child only meant I should've been saving since I was a child for thisGee.
>>11696782They've been releasing a ton of shit since then so it likely fell of the schedule, likely never to return.
>>11696782It tabs together jusy fine, it's just annoying as hell to get the chest to sit just right to complete the transformation.
>>11696385The closest I can think of is RID15 where Cyclonus becomes the elected ruler of post-war Cybertron and organizes a propaganda campaign blaming the Autobots for the war.Thus Bumblebee goes from a war hero to a beat cop while a few other Autobots are forced into hiding for being alleged war criminals.
>>11696760>How are any of these worseBecause they fucking suck at being Nexus Prime? For fucks same, there's someone here who even said that a retool of Amalgamous would be better and you think anyone should take your stupid takes seriously?>and whose gimmick requires you to spend at least $200 to actually work.That would have been the cost of an accurate combiner Nexus Maximus though. And that would have been the ideal release. But we knew he was going through be a Voyager for a long while, enough time to reach the conclusion that at most he would be just a wonky torso, exactly what it is. Dislike the thing all you want, but the absolute meltdown happening in this thread is ridiculous.
>>11696643says the anon that still posts here seriously...
>>11696560>Most of us left to smaller communities that connect in irl, the reason you see nothing is the hack removed any doubt of what this place really is so the few of us that come back are not here for the community or worse they just can't into soc ail networks so this is itLiterally where else is there to talk about anything? I never liked tfw2005. Reddit? Twitter? Facebook? They're all horrible. I dont know where the fuck else to go. But 4chan keeps getting emptier and emptier. Where did everyone else go? What irl stuff are you talking about?
>>11696785I have never owned any Brave toys when I was younger. After discovering Brave, it piqued my interest. However, I can only admire them from afar because The Gattai and Toyrise are too expensive for me.
>>11696808What even is your point?
>>11696760>and whose gimmick requires you to spend at least $200 to actually work.Here's what I don't get about this complaint. Anyone who cares THIS much about a nobody character like Nexus Prime must presumably be really, really into combiners right?So why then do you not have Superion or Bruticus or Menasor already? If you're that into it? It's not a question of spending another $200, it's $200 they figured you already spent especially if you're this down-bad for a nobody like Nexus. There are plenty of TF fans who know the Aerialbots/Stunticons/Combaticons and have never even heard of Nexus, whereas the inverse is NOT true.
>>11696819NTA but I want Nexus AND Superion AND Bruticus etc.I don't want to have tear apart or double dip on the combiners I already own just make a half-hearted Nexus combiner.
>>11696810>Literally where else is there to talk about anything? I never liked tfw2005. Reddit? Twitter? Facebook? They're all horrible.Instagram is pretty good for TF posting. tfw2005 is both better and worse than here depending on the day, but I've been seeing the same kind of faggotry both there and here ever since Nexus-gate.Any AOTP thread over there has been unusable for like the last year with their speculating and thinking out loud hijacking any discourse, so I like the new Nexus just because it managed to piss them off (along with the autists here kek).
>>11696714>Man, I am still so disappointed about RID Sideburn. All I wanted was a good update of the original that wasn't 90% clear plastic and instead hes a bad retool of an already bad figure.And still no word on the other two brothersbro, are you me?RID2001 bros, we're forgotten and ignored
>>11696822Isn't that the very Scramble City play pattern a lot of you guys are always asking for though? >we want to be able to scramble and mix and match our combiners>NO NOT LIKE THATMaybe not you specifically anon, but I have zero doubt that several posters here are talking out of both sides of their mouths on this issue.
>>11696827Just get the third-party ones, as Hasbro has become increasingly expensive.
>>11696714The worst part is, he fucked up FOUR figures with that. I actually saw Side Burn going for 5 bucks and I still passed on it because it's that bad.
>>11696853I got Sideburn and Nucleous in a two pack for $15 back on Black Friday at Walmart. I like him.There's absolutely nothing wrong with his robot mode, and his alt mode is fine what it is. There was 0.0% chance of him being a Dodge Viper anymore for obvious reasons.
>another 86 bee coming according to someone on tfwRe-issue, re-tool/re-deco, new bee?
>>11696827>Isn't that the very Scramble City play pattern a lot of you guys are always asking for though?No, you disingenuous retard.We were advocating for CW-style "1-torso then pick whatever libs you want/can find" like 4 Rooks, or Blots, or Blast-Offs, not spending $143 to have TWO incomplete combiners instead of one.
>>11696883Cry more for me, I draw delicious nourishment from your tears.
>>11696823I just could never go back to message boards after I started using 4chan. What's the best IG tags for transformer photos? Please help me I was always retarded but now I'm a retarded boomer I don't know how this shit works.
>>11696930>What's the best IG tags for transformer photos?I always just use the name of the characters in my pics and current line (#studioseries, or whatever), along with #transformersphotography, #transformerscollector and sometimes #transformershumor if I'm posting some lulzy or parody pics like pic related. Or #autobots, #decepticons or whatever. I don't think hastags matter too much anymore, my IG is cucked and only lets me use up to 5 anyway.
>>11696930Tags haven't worked right in like 2 years, but I like modul toys and shadowmaru
>>11696819>Anyone who cares THIS much about a nobody character like Nexus Prime must presumably be really, really into combiners right?I don't think I should have to explain why exactly this is so monumentally retarded. The gimmick doesn't justify the price you have to pay to get it. It's insane to me how throughout the whole of the 2000s we were shitting on retarded gimmicks that cost the design but now all of a sudden people are defending this shit?
>>11696977>combining is a retarded gimmick>so I'll be really MAD if my Nexus isn't a full combiner!
>>11696534Absolutely notThey will never fix a single fucking thing wrong or improve things people want
real combiners are kinoframe combiners are retardeda frame combiner with no frame is just insulting
>>11697006basedfuck frameslop
>>11696770Looked almost nothing like the Prime designEvery one of the characters shown in the meme are characters who's Legacy release's were a total shit show and they're noticeably worse in every way than the originals with the worst cases being ENTIRELY different nearly
>>11697006Thoughts on Magnaboss?
>>11696877Who caresDevastation Bee bodies him in every regard
>>11697014>MagnabossFantastic, I would love a remake of him and Tripredacus.
>>11697006>>11697009Frame combiners:>look better>pose better>are sturdierSo why are they bad?>they JUST ARE, ok?!>le slop meme
>>11696985That is quite clearly not what I said. You need an IQ test. Like that other anon said, I shouldn't have to dismantle one of my existing $200+ combiners just for the sake of some gimmick which for some reason isn't marketed on the box like it should be.
>>11697006If the frame was able to do something meaningful in all three necessary modes it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Unfortunately all the attempts thus far have been afterthoughts, with onslaught having probably the most acceptable attempt thus far. Silverbolt's frame is garbage, and Motormaster's is somehow even worse with a large chunk of it not even doing anything besides looking like a very imaginative gun implacement.
lol
>>11697028>Do you wanna quit?
>>11697028Does he have the more important gimmick of the heart?
>>11697028
>>11697033
>>11697014>a guy turning into 70% of the combiner while remaining self-contained is the same as frame slop like Silverbolt's backpack>>11697021Why'd you post this both here and on tfw, Mr. Tranny?
I would have been fine if Nexus was just a retool of Bruticus, just with minor changes to the legs so other vehicles could be used, or did something like Energon Prime/power core combiners.
This Elita-1 feels familiar despite being new.
>>11697040She's a retool of authentics arcee
>>11697021An argument could be made for the legs of Superion and Menasor being very very ugly. Not that combiner wars's half assed attempt was superior. I do think with modern engineering a deluxe arm bot would be able to properly transform into an arm without an ugly elbow gap like the cw deluxes. The biggest issues with the cw Era combiners was the poor proportions of the torsos, the hand foot guns being a poor attempt at all three things it tried to do, and the poor tolerances across the board. They absolutely could make self contained good looking combiners if the actually tried, I'm sure they could even get them to scramble if they actually tried. The frames are an excuse to make the figures cheaper, there is no other viable reason.
>>11697014Id love a new Magnaboss. Hopefully the designers realize that Prowl and Lio Junior are the same head mold, so they can just do one box set with differently decoed faces. Santon/Ironhide and Skywarp/Silverbolt are basically identical>>11697031I’m guessing so given it looks like he has a panel on his chest
>>11696980Based >>11697006Based>>11697014Based
>>11697047They will certainly release Lio Junior separately if Magnaboss sold well.
>>11697028Robot mode looks fine, but thst vehicle mode is such a downgrade compared to cw.
>defending frameslopishyddt
>>11697028The line between chug and mp keeps getting blurrier and blurrier.
>>11697051Wouldn’t it make more sense that Prowl would be the separate release since the current team priorities fictional appearances. That’s why we got Tasmania Kid and not Snarl
>>11697051Nah, they're more likely to release it based on BWII so Prowl's probably being skipped over, I really doubt they'd release a component for this type of combiner by itself. Jr also has much better paint applications so I'd rather they do him.
>>11697025>I shouldn't have to dismantle one of my existing $200+ combinersWhat do you mean by "dismantle"?As in, take apart and put back together again?Something you would presumably be doing with your combiners anyway? This is a problem now for some reason?
>>11697028lol this is great
>>11697064Dismissing the frame shit clashing with it on a design level, why would I even waste my time scramble citying any of the combiners I would have with this godawful looking torso that looks too out of place compared to everything else?The problem is not the gimmick itself, it's that everything else felt like an afterthought and it didn't pay off because it doesn't even do the gimmick as well as the rest of the torso pieces.
Old man Onyx https://x.com/suigin80/status/2017627774073377262
>>11697028>>11697033>>11697034Are they doing four red autobots in one wave?Seems like a blunder
>>11697110It’s the Search for Alpha Trion all over again
>>11697028Finally, my Cybertron resitance is going to be complete!
>>11696285>>11696301>>11696325>>11696348>>11696355Onslaught gets to watch.
>>11696623That's sounds like a guy completely full of shit trying to cover up his very obvious fuckup.
>>11697103Real Bionicle energy somehow.
>>11697110What's the difference between this one and the 4 pack?Or is it just a straight 1/1?Also is there any 3P Guns for him that match his Prime FE style?
>>11696680You can add Sideways to that pic.
>>11697103Poor guy’s needed to use his staff as a cane ever since he got jumped by a time-traveler he tried to help. Then got his clothes stolen by said Time-traveler, who turned them into a fur-suit. Which he then spent the next 5 million years wearing and going around impersonating him while carrying out a plan which made no god damn sense.
>>11697021frame combiners so far look like shit and do not pose any better than a deluxe
>>11697028Hoping we get a Viper repaint of this guy.
>>11695024It's all over the place with no direction and we still can't get a Deep Cover or black Megatron out of them.
>>11696459hey, the people who ruined marvel and DC did not grow up on it, they grew up being told it was bad and harmful! so they tried to fix it.
>>11696560where are these smaller communities?
>>11696781yeah that's dumbBW was clear on it, the preds are the germans after WW1. they were defeated but they're biding their time and cookin'a-somethin'up.T-rex Megatron following the plates to ancient Earth is like if Hitler started trying to build camps in like, 1920. Like dude, NOT YET. you have a bunch more work to do before you can do that. That's the impression I got from the Tripredacus council's view of him at least.
>>11696781Not really a retcon since the Maxinal Elders were kind of shady even in the series (they were the ones who greenlit the experiment to create an immortal spark that resulted in Rampage).
>>11696333Most people didn't even know that legacy TM2 Megs had molded teeth underneath the weird zig zag painted teeth
>>11697300howmst the fuck
>>11696823how do you meet people in person on instantgrahams?>>11696930Let me explain how it works:remember the old web? When things worked, and you could access them, and the menus made sense and you could navigate?toss all that in the trash and take a shit in it.
>>11697028The hatch for his LED heart is still there, so he references two episodes that feature him. Now I wonder if his mask will fit the other Earthrise characters featured in Hoist Goes Hollywood...
>>11697237Dumbass IDW writing aside, this is a way better color scheme for him than that ugly monochrome brown they lazily slapped on for the aligned books. I hope they eventually give us this deco.
>>11697237I don't know why but seeing shockwave's head on that body is hilarious
>>11697224It's the same figure that was in the 4-pack
>>11696623>conscious redesignHis exact words are, "instead of calling it a misrepresentation, call it a reinterpretation." Notice how it doesn't say it actually *was* a reinterpretation, just that he'd rather you *call it* that. Also, even though he says the face details were moved around, nowhere does he say that part was done on purpose. Maybe I'm wrong, but the whole thing feels like he's trying to pretend his mistake was just a case of taking artistic liberties, but he doesn't want to actually say outright that it wasn't a mistake so that if he ever gets found out, he can claim he technically didn't lie. >>11697202Exactly.
>>11697298
>>11697050>pays for haslab but frames are slop
>>11697427I meanit's not that much of a leap to say the records of the great war are being classified, given how little most characters know about it. And the explicit reason given for that is that they wanted Earth's location to remain a secret.and while the Elders are not exactly indicted in the creation of Rampage, it... stands to reason that SOMEONE pretty high up would be involved in something that massive. That's what you call a government military lab situation. and a Primal was in charge of disposing of it BY the high council (which this thing states), so I'd say the fans aren't exactly reaching
>>11697427Wait, Protoform X wasn't supposed to be a government weapon project that backfired on them?
>>11697436I fail to see how it could have been entirely 'private' as it were.
>>11697428AnonA Haslab is not comparable to Frameslop.I don't know what angle you're firing at but you're shooting into an entirely different Country of conversationI have 2 of the Transformer onesStar SaberWho I had to get a replacement T W I C E for because Hasbro's absolute inability to make a genuine product or what they promised. AND still had to 3P him to make him feel worthAnd Omega PrimeWho was confirmed to have a dramatically fatal QC Flaw in %100 of them and has some cases of yellowingHe took forever to get hereI carefully unboxedTook photosAnd promptly listed and sold for over what I paid to try to cash outI didn't even fucking touch it nearly
I'm disappointed in Hasbro.They've let me down too many times now.I feel like I'm in a abusive relationship.
Can we see 86 shockwave already im tired of seeing fucking remolds/redecos.
Nexu Prime is completely fine, stop being ignorant. Literally nothing wrong with it.
>>11697516hello slag podcast.
if you have sex with a combiner does it count as an orgy
>>11696292>The push about the 13 primes just doesnt interest me because outside Alpha Trion being retconned as one and I remember Solus Prime being mentioned in Prime with the hammer they used they're not really a thing, yeah?Alpha trion and solus prime got some attention in Tfprime, but a lot of people didn't realize, rid2015, the immediate sequel, had heavy spotlight on micronus and the fallen, and cyberverse had a spotlight on alchemist prime (going under the name macadam)Earthspark highlighted quintus and liege, just no one watched them.So yeah, they've been trying for over 10 years to uplift the name recognition of the primes.The comics made them sort of a joke though.
>>11697613And then One just reduced them to a bunch of dead jobber who were a glorified parliament.
>>11697577No, but it does net you 5-6 restraining orders - one from each member of the combiner, plus one from the combiner itself.
>>11697516I'm charmed that my commnt about need for a new lead designer led to his problems with shitting.
>>11697500You're setting yourself up for disappointment. The Movie Shockwave is one hundred percent going to be comic Shockwave without the dots.
>>11697613>RID and EarthsparkWell that explains it. Didn't watch RID since it was nothing like Prime and Earthspark looked like trash so I never bothered.
>>11697288That lonely?
>>11697448>kept the cash cow staple and got rid of the NEVER EVER
>>11696536>the point is to be reddit: code redGenuinely, kys.
>>11697680you people said this about soundwave too
>>11697786They were blatantly wrong about Soundwave when even the designers said that an 86 Soundwave would be a new mold. I'm not defending them, but at least with Sunstreaker, Shockwave and Astrotrain, I haven't seen anything to imply they're new molds or re-releases of old molds in a new paint job.
>>11697448>buying two haslabs and still thinking its better than basic frame crap
AotP 2026 Wave 2 is up on Pulse. Got my Liege and Nexus in.
>>11697807Shockwave and Astrotrain are 100% new molds. Sunstreaker and Wheeljack are unknown.
I just ordered the hated Nexus on BBTS. How mad does this make you?
>>11697895Prime CJ is showing up as sold out already kek.
>>11697903Seriously? Why?
>>11697904I have no idea. People get weird about those Prime characters I guess.
he has the heart gimmick
>>11697898Based on Hound, 90% chance Sunstreaker and Wheeljack are also the 5 pack versions.Which seems kind of pointless, after we just had Devastation Jack and an ER Sunny reissue, but...
>>11697898No, shockwave was said BEFORE they made him, that they would likely need a new moldAstrotrain has only ever been assumed not a new mold. Nothing has ever been said to the contrary, including leakers
>>11697907A shame he just doesn't look that great to me. The CW still looks better, the only thing it was missing was some extra articulation.
>>11697911> Astrotrain has only ever been assumed not a new mold. Nothing has ever been said to the contrary, including leakersTLK Megatron got pushed to next year, and they consistently do two new leader molds in Studio Series a year. So by process of elimination, Astrotrain is a new mold.Which makes sense, because the Siege aesthetic is garbage and there’s no way to remove it without redoing the whole toy from scratch.
>Nexus Prime isn’t even compatible with every frame, just Silverbolt’sOH NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>11697922That doesn't necessarily mean only silverbolt but fuck me if it does
>>11697922That better be just because he was the most recent...
FYI: If you're doing any preorders and you're in Burgerland, Walmart is currently cheaper.
I just want the upcoming Cyclonus and Kranix.
>>11697922>autists can't figure out that they don't advertise compatibility with Onslaught because that figure isn't even out yet
>>11697956>n-no hasbro doesn’t want to encourage people to buy their other product that will be available on the shelf at the same timeholy cope LMAO
>>11697966>on the shelf at the same timeOnslaught comes out later retard.
>>11697967>n-no toys that come out at slightly different times can't possibly be on the shelf together!!! stop making fun of cuxus prime!!
>Can take off gun wings to be more generic>Wings cant be removed from said guns of cuckus prime.Lol, lmao even
>>11697973Here's a thought shit for brains, maybe when the new figure (Onslaught) comes out they'll advertise he's compatible with the existing figure (Nexus), instead of the other way around.
>>11697979>th-th-th-they'll advertise it later!!! j-j-just wait!!!I'm sorry Hasbro made a shit toy, anon.
>>11697979I hope it works with Motormaster.
>>11697984Im curious if the minidark fleet from tidal wave works on nexus
Doesn't matter if Nexus is compatible with Onslaught's frame. The main issue is that his "chest mode" looks bad.
>>11697982You fail Marketing 101 forever anon, congratulations.
>>11697985Thats....a big stretch.
>>11697922Jtprime said Nexus is universal but we'll see. He might have just been assuming.
>>11697978why did they put him in such a sassy pose?
>>11697988>Dull robot mode>Bad vehicle modeYou'd think those are the compromises for the combined mode, but the combined mode also sucks. There is no redeeming quality for it.
>>11697997But you buy it so you don't stop at 12/13
>>11697922They actually call Nexus's alt mode a "jet tank" in the product description.
>>11697999I'm completely unable to hate that vehicle mode, the old school super robot vibes are too strong. Looks like the child of the Thunder Jet from Gridman and the Power Hander from Gun X Sword.
>>11698012Thunder Jet actually has a triangular shape, with a continuous line extending from the nose cone to the wings. In contrast, Nexus Prime has an unattractive rectangular shape without any convincing jet details. Not to mention, the rear section is not covered up, revealing his crotch.
>>11698012I can understand the "weird vehicle as part of a combining robot" feeling, but there should be more of them. Like something with drills and something with treads or guns.
>>11697907he should include a tiny Astoria
>>11698012You could make the argument if it was actually as sleek and simple as an old super robot component, but unfortunately it's as overgreebled as almost every other modern transformer.
The problems with Nexus Prime's jet mode are:>Crotch not covered.>Hollow parts on top of the jet surface.>Requires parts-forming the wings to complete the jet.>Bad looking silhouette.
Just repurpose your Vehicle Voltron into Nexus Prime.
>>11697427Didn't the flashback portray that Primal was present during at least some part of the experiment that made Rampage?
>>11698027There's the very slightest suggestion of a continuous line between the wings and the blue parts on the cockpit lmao
Should've just made Nexus a Titan class and had him be a full combiner set
>>11698058Primal's only seen watching two other Maximals trying to restrain Rampage to be loaded into the Axalon. As the ship's captain he was presumably just there for that rather than being involved in Rampage's creation.
>>11698027He WANTS you to see his crotch
>>11698060no we absolutely needed a giant retarded optimus prime toy
Should have made Nexus a new Combiner Wars torso mold, dusted off CW limb molds for him to use and sold him as a full boxed set.
>>11697915That's silly
>>11698063Even the port is exposed, he is ready to serve his rider.
>>11698064What have you got against Star Convoy?
>>11698064Star Convoy deserved to happen at some point. Doing Star Convoy with no accompanying Micromasters and labeling him one of the 13 Primes were bad ideas.
>>11698071that slut
>>11698074>no accompanying MicromastersI guess that makes Hot Rod chopped liver
>>11698083Also since Inferno doesn’t have wings, it means he transforms into a female fire ant
>>11698083>Smokescreen is a trans
>>11698086Apparently you misgendered Inferno
>>11698081Star Convoy is meant to be a Micromaster environment, he needs to be accompanied by Micromaster releases. Releasing him with a single one is like releasing two Constructicons.
>>11698090Inferno uses male pronouns, he just happens to look like a woman
>>11698092>Inferno is a trans
>>11698086>Unfortunately, Swerve's new head sculpt and chest details are based on the poorly traced "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5" screencap that was published in The Ark series books in place of an actual character model (see #Notes below), with the coloration of the made-up chest details being solely based on the Transformers.kiev.ua fan coloring that shows up instantly in a simple Google Search.This is embarrassing, and it's been years and years of them releasing figures with mistakes like this.
>>11698100And it is going to keep happening until conditions change.
>>11698100Somebody seriously, I mean genuinely, needs to link the correct character model archive to someone at Hasbrohttps://www.allspark.com/home/threads/the-most-accurately-coloured-g1-animation-models-online.301/
>>11697907I'm surprised they painted the whole thing, I was expecting bare plastic like gears
>>11698100To be fair, The Ark is a licensed product that's supposed to be a collection of actual character models.It's not like the team are wrong for following what is ostensibly an official source. Blame Jim Sorenson for getting it wrong.
It bothers me that Weirdwolf is the only headmaster who doesn't have a name that involves a head pun
>>11698132Also, sometimes they don't actually want to be accurate, sometimes they want to reference fan art
>>11698166Pretty weird isn't it?
>>11698060Then only 50 people would have bought him
>>11698166Snapdragon and scorponokAnd fortress maximus
>>11698166It’s like how Squeezeplay is the odd one out of Horri-Bull and Fangry, though I’ve heard rumors that he was supposed to be named Clawful, but MOTU beat them to the punch
>>11698199Snapdragon is a type of flower that looks like a dragon head and Cerebros is the name of Fort Max's Headmaster. Not sure about Scorponok though
APOLOGIZE NOW
>>11698212>$80 DLC required to make it passableLet me laugh even harder.
>>11698092Cybertronian femboys are WILD
>>11698212Fine I'll bite.
>>11698212Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWSj4wlnqMIt does say they're planning to make limb bots, but nothing about a new frame for him.
>>11697761>>11697849Your retardation is a loud concessionI accept
>>11698212>>11698224Sorry, but the damage is done. We're still pissed at Nexus Prime that it would be hard to accept at this rate. If we are getting limbs for this duck, I bet they will just be updated redesigns for the FunPub components with Shattered Glass Heatwave giving us a new frame that is compatible with this Nexus Prime and they can be interchangeable depending on your mood on what head he should be. Each limb will surely come with a piece of the Cyber Caliber (which consists of the Terminus Blade, Omni Saber, Chaos Edge, and Skyboom Shield) so that the Prime of Combination actually gets a weapon that fits his combiner aesthetics (he has his wing blasters for the standalone figure, but it's still a leftover concept from his One incarnation).
>Expecting the patron/god/ancestor of combiners to get a good figure when Legacy/AoTP combiners themselves are so controversialDon't worry I'm guilty of this too
>>11698212Nah. I'll believe it after I have G2 Motormaster. Easy skip.
>>11698214I always joke that Bumblebee is a femboy because the other two uses of his mold, Glyph and “Ladybug” are both female
Side note, from the video released just now, I feel skeptical that the Vector Prime they release will be the version from the cancelled Cybertron capsule line instead of the package refresh I'm promised to have. If it's a mere redeco of the original figure, then they sword and Cyber Key (the latter still getting the tampograph) will be recolored as well.
>>11698212Why didn't they just make him a commander to begin with?
>>11698224"we can't show off toys from other years on product packaging">that's why no superion reference>that's why no reference to future limbs>double confirm no onslaught compatibility for anyone still thinking there was a chancewhether it's advertising laws focused on the wrong problems or just hasbro being hasbro (like "convert"), what a stupid problem to have.
This is what they should have done:6 pack for NexusRedeco/remods of CW:Alpha Bravo as TopspinFireflight as BreakawayBrawl and LandquakeRook as HeatwavePowerglide as SkyfallNew Combiner Wars-style torso mold as Nexus himself
>>11698212So what I'm hearing is wait for the boxset
>Get my 86 Thundercracker>Paint issues on the wings>Yellowing in several spotsMan, fuck this.
>>11698212
>>11698027>Thunder Jet actually has a triangular shape, with a continuous line extending from the nose cone to the wingsThat's why I mentioned it being a mix of that and Power Hander. Can't you read, anon?
>>11698231>Sorry, but the damage is done. We're still pissed at Nexus Prime that it would be hard to accept at this rate.Jesus Christ, don't be such a drama queen.
>>11698246>Zombie CliffjumperMy Unicron toyline theory keeps getting more and more support
>>11698213So what did you want for Nexus, a midget combiner for the price of a Voyager?
>>11698241Fuck combiner wars, if they release new non-frame combiners someday I hope these shitty mold never return.
>>11698224So Liege Maximo is amazing and Nexus Prime was a mistake they didn't have a solid plan for and just have copium future upgrades.
>>11697703Only for the last 33 years
>>11698239No slots. Nexus Prime kept getting passed around, Mark said they eventually settled on him being a Leader and even then he got knocked down to Voyager.
>>11698267He would have benefitted more as a Leader, but the "no slots" thing hit him even harder if he's designed to connect to Silverbolt's booster extension (since it does not work well on a Concord). Without a combiner frame, the chest component is roughly the size of a Leader Class for scale reasons, and it sucks how Nexus got kicked downwards.
>>11697999that's pretty stupid, they should have called it a tankjet or a flying tank. even a sky tank would sound better. puts you in the mindset of like, SHIELD.>>11698012I think it's.... halfway toward being a good altmode. they just needed to study more old shmups, and make the air intake and thruster output parts A) more treamlined and B) more defined. even just giving them a slight diagonal bevel would have done wonders.
>>11698267>>11698269Someone had to be the loser of this whole affairAnd I guess it's better to trail with the loser than lead with it
>>11698061he's still complicit. Rattrap was the one who knew nothing about the mission, he was merely hired to take them there, but Primal knew the whole thing. They could have found some guy who knew nothing about it and just said 'here, bury this and don't ask about what it is'
>>11698063i mean the crotch is obviously trying to be a plane tail, it's just doing the goofiest job since silverbolt and airazor and tigerhawk's tails>>11698083calling claspers sex organs just because he uses them to separate the female's folds and get inside is like saying hands are sex organs because she might help guide you into her. I realize that isn't the point being made here, but.. I hear people saying spiders have their genitals on their faces, and like, no. They just use their little mittens to move the droplet of sperm to the lady spider's opening. so the ones with the big mittens are the males. some even have like a lil ... kinda reversible pen nib situation going on, but most are small enough that you can just carry a droplet
>>11698083The avatars really tie this discussion together
>sleep in by like a half hour>everyone wants to Keep On Glidin'I don't doubt I'll get Powerglide easy enough later but man. Was not expecting him to be the big seller with how much everyone was going "Feh, Combiner Wars was better"
>>11698231>We're still pissed at Nexus PrimeWho cares if you're pissed? Also who is "we", nigger.
>>11697907SOVLhope we get an 84 line like this to pick up the stragglers
>>11698213>REEEE why isn't he a combiner>ok so he is a combiner, but REEEE why do I have to pay for it?!
>>11698224>but nothing about a new frame for him.My guess is that they'll do G2 Superion and advertise that as the intended frame for Nexus.
>>11698279>everyone was going "Feh, Combiner Wars was better"1 poster on /toy is not "everyone".
>>11698279I snagged mine from Walmart's site; looks like he's still available there, if you'd rather not wait.
>>11698212So he's not Nexus, he's Heatwave, and we're getting the rest of the 'bots that make the full Nexus later?
>>11698212I feel better now.
>>11698291damn I didn't know I have a clone on /toy/
>>11698246The Legacy Cliffjumper is awfulMakeing it worse with poorly done purple "Dark Energon" shit would only be a mess>New designer worked with Mark on SmokescreenIs that why it's so dogshit?>Doors can moveOkay?>DLC Nexus shitLolLmao even>WAS gonna be a leaderYou'd probably would have sold him better and been able to actually do something with him design wise>No DuoconEhh i'm okay with that since the last didn't even have individual modesPotP wins again>Liege is Alien WarshipI can see that actually>Can sit on the throne we've thrown into like 4 releasesLol>Flip out cannonI'd have to see it
>>11698303Now neither of you will be virgins.
Heh, given Nexus' story about his limbs being scattered across the multiverse, this feels oddly appropriate.
>>11698306>we've thrown into like 4 releasesThe throne has had one US release (SS86) and two JP releases (dramatic capture series and Tokyo even exclusive).
>>11698310Honestly, I really liked how his original toy was split between different toylines entirely, with two in Classics, two in Timelines, and one in Cybertron
>>11698306>Is that why it's so dogshit?What's wrong with Smokescreen?
>>11698316And now they did it again. Just across two lines.Although technically this means we have another year before we can say we have an accurate collection of the Thirteen, but oh well.
>>11698310>>11698316>>11698319This is one of those things where I'm kinda less mad about it than I probably should beconsidering the last time nexus prime was sold as a bunch of separate limbs it took like five years this does make sensejust.. thank god it's only taking two years; but it still sucks.
>>11698306This is the one thing I wanted confirmation on.
>>11698212And.... dropped.
>nonstop bitching about Nexus>still immediately sells outlolI didn't order him but I did preorder Ratchet, Powerglide, and Smokescreen. I think they look completely fine. Smokescreen is probably the best Prime mold they've done next to Breakdown (low bar, I know) but otherwise no real complaints. I just wish Lockdown and Wreckgar weren't shitty junkion recolors that were out of scale with the rest of the Animated figures they put out.
>>11698328Honestly, didn't like a lot of what they showed off, Liege is the one thing I could get, but I know in my heart he'll join Big Convoy in deep clearance.
Relieving the original Nexus 5 year release wait with the modern G2 Menasor
>>11697427RELEASE THE STARSCREAM FILES
>>11698335Motomaster I get because Commander repainting be hard yo, but seriously though, where the fuck is G2 Wildrider?
>>11698074>Doing Star Convoy with no accompanying Micromasters That I'll grant you but then you should have dozens of Siege/Earthrise Micromasters already. >labeling him one of the 13 PrimesA total non-issue. It's literally just text on a box.
Hearing that Nexus was planned to be Leader class but bumped down to Voyager makes me feel a bit better about the whole thing. Shows at least someone at Hasbro has their priorities right and knew it was better to sacrifice Nexus for a Leader class Liege Maximo than vice versa.
>>11698346They teased him in January. January 2025.>>11698357>A total non-issueIt has a knockback effect on the entire line, slots are taken up and ultimately Nexus was pushed to a voyager class figure.
So on 86 Thundercracker, these are the parts that can be yellowed out of the box:-The partsforming tail fin-Shoulders-back of the legs-Hip piecesGood luck, if the shoulder is yellowed, changing it with another thundercracker will be hard as hell.
>>11698316Did anyone here collect the original Nexus Prime when it originally came out with the Collector's Club subscription? What was it like, was there any big hype online for what was essentially just an Energon combiner redeco? Did anyone care about Nexus in the magazine comic or was it all about the toys?
>>11698382If he's prone to yellowing they'll all be yellowed in a year or two, like Kingdom Cyclonus
Walmart canceled my 50$ ss86 soundwave I'm so tempted to pay scalper prices has anyone seen him up anywhere else
>>11696010It's a modern day version of Gun Robo's headcrest being turned into Megatron's eyebrows
>>11698385We don't really know that. Not yet. If this is like Motormaster, I'll only afect parts in certain batches.
he shouldn't have been a Voyager. He should've been a Commander or Titan set but that would've required Hasbro to plan things out better and we all know that's impossible.
>>11698395that really is silly stuff, isn't it.. but in fairness the original was itself pretty odd.
Nexus prime WON.Markclonus WONDoomers LOSTTFW2005 LOST
it's really odd to say the 13 Primes when one of them can break down into multiple personalitiesunless they're some hivemind in the lore or something
Buying new figures just gives me anxiety these last few months. I've gotten some rotten luck late, from Amazon losing my packages, being scammed on ebay, having a seller not send me one item and leave me hanging on another (they're a fucking store front so I have no clue why they're this incompetent), yellowing figures right out of the box. I'm already getting stuff for Bruticus, but after that and Jetfire, I don't want to deal with all this bullshit.
I just realized, Nexus is probably the combiner planned for 2027.
>>11698428yeah that's been my biggest problem with them so farthey're such different beings, one of them is the fallen, one of them is multiple people, one is a guy that goes inside a larger guy, one is a fucking quintesson.. how does this work? they are not a cohesive group no matter how you try to spin it. And the fact that it's so hard to do that speaks to the basic nature of Transformers: multiple incompatible toylines kludged together.
>>11698091That Hotrod isn't even really a MicroMaster since he's twice as big as the Siege/Earthrise ones.
>>11698428>unless they're some hivemind in the lore or somethingNexus was one dude who split himself up into several smaller ones, so unlike most combiners where the individual bots came first and are unique entities unto themselves, the combined form for Nexus is the real dude and his components are all just alternate bodies controlled by one mind/personality and scattered around.
>>11698325So looking closer, it looks like Liege has a more normal face and the red 'teeth' are some kind of mouthguard.
>>11698436NTA, it's why I always preferred the G1 cartoon lore despite not growing up with it and only being used in the cartoon and japanese G1.How do you give a race of beings cobbled together from multiple incompatible toylines a cohesive lore? They were made on demand by a race of toymakers.How do you explain the separation of the race into two and why one side has flyers and the other is just cars? They were made on demand by a race of toymakers.How are new transformers made? They are literally just made, on demand, like you would make a robot. That's it.How are Primes crated? Optimus passed the Matrix to Hot Rod, and someone passed the Matrix to him before, and on and on until you arrive at the guy that was handed the Matrix from Vector Sigma.Why do Transformers have sparks? Vector Sigma activates them or they just manifest into them.The cartoon lore is really easy to understand. I have no idea what the comics' writers were thinking in adding stupid concepts like the Zodiacs and Primus to the lore, or what fans were thinking in reacting well to that but throwing the baby with the bathwater over Primacron.
>>11698428Nexus is the opposite of a typical combiner. Instead of five guys that learned to combine into one, he's one guy that learned to split into five.His components have their own emergent personalities but Nexus is the true one. When they combine, they basically die and when Nexus splits apart they're reborn as new individuals.
>>11698212Limbs confirmed for 2027. Frame potentially by 2028.
>>11698451A god made out of a planet of metal is really cool sounding is why Primus.
>>11698446in fairness, personalities seem pretty divisible. that's typically a fantasy cliche.. oh this guy has the heart, this guy the brains, this guy's the fear, etc.
>>11698451i think the main problem isyou've already established these things live for tens of millions of years easy, trying to make an ancient backstory that is now only legends requires, yknow, that something happened 10 generations back at least, if not 40 or 50. How the fuck much space do you think you have here
>>11698434That would explain Evan previously deconfirming Defensor.
>>11698436>they are not a cohesive group no matter how you try to spin it. They aren't supposed to be.>speaks to the basic nature of TransformersYou've got your finger on it, they're supposed to be representative of all Cybertronians, and Transformers are an extremely diverse race.
>>11698450Absolutely everyone but you noticed this when his figure leaked earlier in the week.
>>11698463You can still make them robots making other robots making other robots, you know.
>>11698466yeah and they don't work as a group
>>11698468sure i'm just saying the timeframe is working against you. it's not impossible to make that kind of lore, but.. it's probably a bad idea. Better to have all the lore be stuff that current characters are aware of. or at least the older ones like Kup
>>11698469And you don't work as a person you useless autist.
So that’s a no on spring loaded dart missiles then.
>>11698472forbidden candy / fishing lure
>>11698470I'm struggling to understand your point.Are you saying the lore would need to accomodate the Thirteen? Because my stance has always been FUCK the Thirteen.
By the way, in case anyone missed it, there’s like 12-15 new images for everyone in this wave except for Leige, who just gets this.Also the fancy website page only has most of them, there’s a few extras you can see over on Entertainment Earth’s listings.https://news.tfw2005.com/2026/02/03/aotp-2026-wave-2-live-nexus-prime-liege-maximo-powerglide-swerve-and-more-555960
>>11698450FUUUUUUUCK why would Mark think he has a normal face and that the his horns were anything but a part of his actual head? He’s actually perfect except for the stupid head, but still, not a dealbreaker for me
>>11698456Wonder how they will do the limbs. Each limb as a deluxe with a separate voyager for the remaining frame parts? Package one part of the frame with each limb?
>>11698490If I had to guess..Commander class set with frame + one or two of the deluxe arms, either that or the frame is a partsforming robot/alt/frame pieces shtickReissue of nexus around that time for people that missed him possibly even full voyager limbs? maybe? doubtful.
>>11698478I'm saying that, broadly, "ANCIENT TIMES LONG PAST, THERE WERE THESE LEGENDARY BEINGS" does not jive well with Transformers. so I think we agree.
>>11698500As long as no one is around that would remember it, does it matter? Things that might have happened a century ago for humans are already obscured.
>>11698317He's horrendous compared to the originalAlmost every aspect is worse than the original
>>11698482I dunno - I always assumed the red thing was actually part of his chest, sitting on his clavicle - pretty much every depiction we had of him had him looking down with his chest puffed out.Still, I think there's no mistaking the fact that those horns are supposed to be on his head, so how the hell did they fuck up the easiest to interpret part of him?
>>11698451To be fair to Furman, he likely came up with the Primus origin without even knowing anything about the cartoon's Quintesson origin (these were the days before the internet, after all). I can also sort of see why he did it, the Primus origin was revealed during a big anniversary story for the UK comic, so what better way to shake things up than reveal the Transformers aren't mere robots, they're really the creations of a cosmic being created to fight Robot Satan!
>>11698472When was the last time we got springloaded missles on a mainline transformer? I feel like there hasn't been a single one since Prime Wars started.
>>11698495Mayba each limb as a 'Voyager' ala Brawl and Swindle, but packaged with a part of the frame?
What if the Nexus Prime extensions are all unique to a different retailer (Hasbro Pulse, Amazon, Wal-Mart, Target, so on)?
>>11698525What if they all cost different amounts? What if two of them are perfectly identical but are still sold under different names? What if they come packed with antrax? What if you need to send proof you smashed your balls with a hammer to purchase them?
>>11698500Oh, yeah.
>>11698495>>11698490c'mon you're not thinking like Hasbro.so Nexus is already a voyagertwo deluxestwo more voyagersleader class for the combiner crapspread out over the next four years and never complete because Hasbro has moved onto the next line.
>>11698500Bro, Transformers always had ancient lore and quasi-mystical bullshit, even before Primus was introduced back when they were Quintesson designer fuckdolls. It's intrinsic to the franchise. The 13 just unified the concepts.
>>11698535I stand by my statement that it is awkward, at best, to do that kind of thing with beings who can shrug off a 65 million year nap.super advanced alien precursors is one thing. legendary fucking jedi gandalfs is another.
>>11698532Expected between a certain retailer's markup and having both deluxe and voyagers. Unlikely since they have enough existing molds to avoid duplicates. Recall and big PR apology tour. Wouldn't happen since too difficult to verify.
>>11698537>legendary fucking jedi gandalfsLiterally there from the start.
So Mark once again said that the prime artifacts are going to combine with something. Thoughts on what it might be?
>>11698570a massive disappointment
>>11698482I'm reminded how everyone thought Doubledealer's head had Inferno like "horns", including his anime counterpart in Doubleclouder, and it turns out no that's only if you look at the toy front on in a picture because the brace for the missile from vehicle mode sits behind his head and lines up to give him "ears". And weirdly only Hasbro has rejected this way the head looks since every toy made of Doubledealer since then has made the head accurate to *just* the head without the rest of the kibble.
>>11698570Buy all five extra Nexus components to find out!
>>11698382I have yet to see that at allI heard the shoulder is just a slightly off blue and it's people doomposting thinking that's early signs of yellowing
>>11698450It's worseThe Red part? That's a Chin partYou can see his mouth in the face and the red part is definitely a chin
>>11698450Can't wait for the custom head makers to fix the design. Then he'll be perfect.
Nexus' alt mode looks a bit better with the wings swept up like this.
>>11698610>a block of robot parts with a cockpit slapped onGunrunner bros we are SO back
>>11698565isnt that more of an obi-wan? Those fit fine. that's a 'one generation back' thing.
>>11698610
>>11698610It almost reminds me of the Gunstar...but as a brick.
>>11698585One is literally a different color. People just assume everything is doomposting for the hell of it.
>>11698628
always remember: there are no QC issues on recent figures and all reports of QC issues are actually coming from scalpers or scalper-paid actors and customizers to make a figure's pre orders get cancelled so the scalpers can get more pre orders except for kingdom cyclonus hasbro just did that
>>11698631
>Nexus was another Hasui fuckup
>>11698636This is the normal shoulder, the previous pic has the yellowed one. Pretty hard to get on camera, but in this image, the shoulder has a richer blue, while on the previous image the blue is lighter with a slight yellowish hue. If I could pop the arms off I could make a better comparison, but that while section is pinned.
>>11698294I wouldn’t recommend that, Walmart just today canceled my preorders for SS86 Windcharger and Soundwave. No idea where to even get Soundwave at this point, fucking pissed
>>11698631>>11698636>>11698639That SLIGHT off blue is on a lot of themIt's not actually yellowing
Is the new Smokescreen supposed to be from Prime? It's mostly that design, but the face doesn't look anything like they did on that show.
>>11698659Because they keep trying to fo that stupid G1-nification crap from Legacy that no one wanted.
>>11698661I want it. Prime faces are ugly.
>>11698649Nah, if it was a different shade of blue I wouldn't care, but it has a yellowish hue visible in both white and warm light.
>>11698663i mostly agree, but they haven't really been improving them
>>11698631I don't want to defend Hasbro on this. But Hasbro is not the only one with plastic color consistency issue. People forget individual pieces in the transformer are actually molded all separately hence the plastic/color mixture is not 100%Like the wings are not molded along with from the arms in the same plate. There is also the issue of the texture of plastic is not the same between different material. Even Lego couldn't keep the same color consistent in the same box. The only one that actually pull this off I think is with Bandai and their plastic models. going from their PR video each box used the same source of raw plastic so you won't get different plates from different batch of plastic in the same box.
>>11698673i have never known lego to mess up colors, aren't they super stringent?in any case I would say a better defense is just how tiny these inconsistencies are. I mean they're nothing compared to>painted part vs unpainted part meant to be the same coloror>two parts meant to be the same color, but made of two different kinds of plastic so totally different looking
>>11698679>Ib4 REDDITAnd this is just within this yearIt is not like it is only happening now. I remember when I putting the large Target 50% Christmas discount lego star destroyer 20 years ago there is clearly color variation with the star wars grey pieces. The problem only get more noticeable with how Lego making more larger and larger sets than ever before.
>>11698684oh wow, that's pretty bad.at least for star wars, that kinda fits the look, but this... this is not a good sign. is it mostly whites and grays? I have some 30 year old gray legos that have gone kinda yellow and don't fit great anymore but my blues are only slightly yellowed if at all.then again this is also a weird way to do the concorde, isn't it? I'd expect a lot more.. plates. and a lot less 'elaborate stacking of many uneven parts for no particular reason'
>>11698673I'll be honest and say that I haven't noticed any glaring inconsistencies on most of my collection. Most of the time, if any piece is a different color, they all look the wrong color. Thundercracker is the first time I've seen this "inconsistencies" outside of yellowing figures, so I don't believe this to be common for transformers.
>>11698537>beings who can shrug off a 65 million year nap.Bro this is a gross exaggeration. In G1 (both comic and cartoon), they shrugged off a FOUR million year nap. Which is still ridiculous, but nowhere near as much so as you're implying.Second point, more modern continuities quietly downplay the immense timeframes of old. IDW2 and Skybound both make references events thousands of years ago and wars centuries long, not 9 million. So it's mostly been retconned.
>>11698613How is he an Obi-Wan?
>>11698715ah okay I had it wrong.>retconnedwell that fucking helps I suppose.>>11698716dude I don't fucking know.
I got back into buying Transformers during Earthwise and have to ask was Titan Returns a good toyline? I got the Diaclon recolors of Topspin and Twintwist and really like them. Looking up reviews from that line I see everyone is a headmaster (which I like) like Arcee and Blurr and the like. Seems like a fun gimmick line although the pain doesn't look that amazing (maybe it's just because of the video reviews being 10 years old)
>>11698716NTA, but Alpha Trion was an older mentor character who died making a heroic sacrifice and continued to make appearances as a ghost. Pretty Obi-Wan.
>>11698738There's a lotta pretty decent toys from then, sure.
>>11698294Pulse put Powerglide back up this morning so I just made an order for him.
>>11698570They said the artifacts supposed to combine into the Well of Sparks
>>11698809Might be the "Sentinel Artifact Pack." It's where all the Artifacts could be placed Round Table style, modeled after the Halo of Primus.Different topic, does anyone think Liege Maximo's alt mode looks a lot like the Thunderbird 2? Looking at it gave me flashbacks to the live-action Thunderbirds movie where the Thunderbird 2 got hijacked by the villains.
>Hasbro has VoltronOh dear.
>>11698989*cough, cough*
>>11698994https://toynewsi.com/278-61679
DNA just released their Upgrade Kit for Razorclaw - they've removed the Silverbolt bits, so it's a bit cheaper than the Tigerhawk version.
>>11698661I like the g1-nification because I can finally have characters that appeared outside g1 into a generations line instead of constant redoes of characters we already have. If you want accurate characters then there is studio series for that.
>...he's right behind me isn't he?
>>11699066Is it me or does Powerglide look angry? Also, who do we think it’s being made first, Bady Boy or Viper?
>>11698450it's not a mouth, it's just random line detailing.you can see it connected to the lines next to his cheeks/nose>>11698472good.
>>11699068YesAnd?
>>11699095Sorry, wrong powerglide pic
>>11699066He's a chick magnet. Unfortunately, the chick in question is also a magnet.
>>11698450>>11698480The comic>weird snout with an underbiteThe toy>gigachad chin with a goatee
Any good reason HasbroPulse EU doesn't have new preorders from yesterday stream? Like, wtf. I want to give you my money Hasbro. Why don't you want it?
>>11698611>Gunrunner brosHey that's me
>>11698673Please. I have G1 toys that were perfect out of the box.I think it had something to do with them being made in Japan at the time.
>>11699066>>11699068Seriously though, why is he so angry? It genuinely, amongst other things, ruins the toy for me.Also, why in the actual fuck did they add kibble to his arms? Why isn't that red bit just part of the wings?
>>11698212No lol, still got the same prblm, base figure is shit looking (except the colors), esp for 42 $/€, but now still requires 3 digits dlcs that won't look good no matter what>>11698237The cancelled subline Vector P was a Leader Class in the leaks, the one from the last wave AOTP is a voyager in the leaks, so definitly a PR of Legashit>>11698240>double confirm no onslaught compatibility for anyone still thinking there was a chanceThis one is dumber, as onslaught is set for this year, this summer >>11698316One on Energon*Skyfall has the Energon instructions of one of his previous molds
>>11698633Certified Hasbro bootlicker>>11699139Pulse UK has preorders on either tommorow Thursday or Friday (source: InDemandToy's facebook), maybe that applies to the EU too
>>11699205>Pulse UK has preorders on either tommorow Thursday or Friday (source: InDemandToy's facebook), maybe that applies to the EU tooThx for the info. Bastards.
>>11698482When AI can make a better looking head you know you messed up.
>>11699066I'm sure somebody will make a 3P piece that's a thin plate that'll fit and look a lot better because the 3 Screwholes look horrible
>>11699066I'm just not a fan of these ebin references to random geewun episodes
>>11699233>AI Slop
>>11699233This looks horrendousFuck off with your AI Slop
>>11699202Honest question after looking at Heatwave there, do you folks think Nexus could be a 6 part combiner if they used Heatwave as a frame for the legs and chest piece simceb Nexus is just the torse? Would have to be a commander if they did that
I love Amazon
>>11699244Why not? It is Powerglide's most famous appearance.
>>11699244Eh, if it's within bugdet, why not. At least it referse to something, unlike those stupid fists Blitzwing came with.
Got him for $100 shipped, he seems to be missing the small fists, the missiles, and one of the cab connectors. How did I do?
>>11699261You should either return it or contact Hasbro customer care to see if they can get a replacement
>>11699274I remember seeing in 1987, seeing Ultra Magnus where the face was totally unpainted and just was left blue.
>>11698994nobody owns inspirations.>>11699060that doesn't bode well for new silverbolt..well i'm poor now anyway.what were the ideal hands called again? MP something hands..
>>11699300Yeah, that's the shittier plastic wheels version which I think was more common in the states.
>>11699060>it's a bit cheaper than the Tigerhawk version.23 fucking dollars and 49 goddamn cents? yeah I don't think so
>>11699233why wouldnt it be able to? it's just autocomplete.
>>11699248>>11699249The head truly looks better, horns are part of it and the thing that always looked like a mouthpiece is exactly that and not a chin. I wish the toy one looked like, I don't give a shit if it's AI or whatever.
>>11699312Then I must’ve had an in-between version where yes it was plastic wheels, but the face was still painted. Probably either late 1986, early 1987.
>Bay is in the filesReturn cancelled kek
>>11699274Why not get the missing link one?
>>11699337He'll get extra support from the big guys, actually.
>>11699337There were definitely signs beforehand (I know he didn’t write it, but he still directed AoE and left this scene in)
>>11699342It's going to be 3 times more expensive and I still think it'll be an awkward figure to actually mess with. I see G1 magnus as more of a display piece.
>>11699398Only 2x. You spent $100 for incomplete UM, Missing Link is $200 with no missing pieces, with more stuff than the original in fact, plus added articulation. But whatever makes you happy
>>11699398>It's going to be 3 times more expensiveIt's 160 bucks
>>11699357Sometimes I think of rewatching the first film and then I remember the weird tonal shift of the Sector 7 chase scene acting like some PG comedy film where the kids show up the mean old adult, and the whole weirdness that comes with it>She's a CRIMINAL, Criminals are HOT *slurp*>Now take off your pants!
>>11699269Yeah, I'd rather an accessory and features that means something than extra pointless guns. There's a reason everyone memed the hammer that came with Springer.
>>11699357yeah the most raving antis are always criminalsnow let's not let that stupid show 'the news' get in the way of discussing that way better show 'the transformers'
>>11699433>She's a CRIMINAL, Criminals are HOT *slurp*This line fascinates me. I don't understand it at all, where it comes from, what it means.
>>11699357>There were definitely signs beforehandYeah...
>>11699442what about your experiences in life so far led you to believe that replying to that would have a non-regrettable outcome?
>>11699233The head looks better but the rest of the body looks like shit compared to the official
>>11699261You poor bastard. I fucking despise toy swappers.
>>11699475>>11699261Toy swapping should be an executable offense. Their collections can be donated to whoever got screwed by their swap.
>>11699337That doesn't mean he's a pedo though. Nice try geewunner.
>>11699483you jest but i meana proper society would fine people for theft, and force them to work off the debt if they can't pay. Nothing else needed, no ridiculous prison sentences, just pay what you owe plus a penalty, ranging from 50% to 400% of what you stole depending on the context.
>>11699485a baypedo is here
>>11699485They all are anon
>>11699483>>11699475I have a feeling the swapping is gonna get even worse than before now with the raised voyager prices. This hobby is fucked.
>>11699357what happens here?
>>11699261Lol that's kinda funny
>>11699490>>11699495knowing Epstein or interacting with him =/= actually engaging in illegal activity. Bay haters keep seething.
>>11699274For the same price, why not get the Missing Link one that's brand-new, has all of his pieces (including some extra goodies), and has added articulation?
>>11699485>>11699490You are undermining every victim of child sex crimes.Be better.
>>11699555How can one anon be so based!
>>11699517The character in the image is a 20 year old is dating a 17 year old and, I shit you not, pulls out a laminated copy of Texas's Romeo and Juliet law to explain to her dad that it’s ok that he’s dating his underage daughter. It has also been pointed out that, no, Romeo and Juliet laws do not protect him in this case
>>11699581Worst scene in the entire Transformers franchise, including all of Kiss Players
>>11699581Is it supposed to be played for laughs? I don't understand why a scene like that is in a Transformers movie.
>>11699585Because the writer is a retard and whoever was in charge of cutting out the bad parts and left it in is also a retard.
>>11699485>I don't care about kids getting raped. What I really care about is owning the libz - I mean geewunners!Retard goy slaves like you should really neck yourselves already.
>>11699485They can't comprehend being mentioned and contextForgive them. They're all retarded
>>11699598I mean, to be fair, the context is Jeffery Epstein sending Michael a bunch of stuff through FedEx, meaning they probably had some kind of working relationship
>>11699606And? those FedEx shipments could just contain packs of dried up dogshit for all we know. Innocent until proven guilty.
>>11699611Anti-Bayversefags/Redditors really are acting no different than quintesson judges right now. Nobody is ever innocent, only guilty every time.
where the actual fuck are the mods
>>11699615I mean, they're reeing about a scene in the fourth Transformers movie where an asshole is ragging on his daughter's fella because she's (gasp) 17.What did you expect? They aren't even aware of the fact that that scene was trying to support their viewpoint.
>>11699625I agree, but it's the end of the thread, just start a new one
>>11699629oh yeah that has historically worked greatin any case, page 6 is nowhere near the end, at least it's nowhere near 404ing. It's pretty close to when goanon makes a new one with no OP copypasta, but
>>11699637>oh yeah that has historically worked greatYes?These tangents rarely follow through
>>11699639well I hope your memory's better than mine
>>11699315>23 fucking dollars and 49 goddamn cents? yeah I don't think soThe original Tigerhawk kit with the Silverbolt stuff was $32.99, so yes - the Razorclaw kit is, in fact, a little bit cheaper.
